speedrunning

[alpine rivet]

excited to do my first attempt tomorrow lol

[true palm]

layout settins

[sand nacelle]

ah

[alpine rivet]

im going into it without having ever practiced some of these skips, which will be fun to see how long how long they take me to get lol

im not doing qga though

[frank obsidian]

Im a bit not wanting to do another speedrun, bc the other one feels wasted because im stupid

and im sad

[sand nacelle]

i set the trigger in the ordered splits right

i wanna make sure i got the triggers right

[alpine rivet]

I have no idea how these triggers work, so im gonna do manual splits. im not submitting these runs so i dont think it matters that much lol

[true palm]

setting up splits isnt that hard and its pretty cool

if you send a screenshot like so

we can double check your triggers

[frank obsidian]

i want to set up livesplit

[hot latch]

Small question, about how long did it take y'all to get semi constant with wk?

[frank obsidian]

maybe

[sand nacelle]

ah

then i am setting it up right

[frank obsidian]

for any%? Im still not consistant LOL

[hot latch]

live split makes you feel like a gamer lol

[frank obsidian]

yes

[true palm]

i've spent hours on the fight and i'm like 60% consistent on low%, and about 80% on any%

by hours probably like 12+

[alpine rivet]

wait, is it easy to set up autosplitting?

[true palm]

yup

you see that screenshot i sent

its literally just picking triggers from a drop down

[alpine rivet]

ohh, just do them for all splits i have listed?

[true palm]

yah

they just need to match and thats it

[hot latch]

Alrighty thank you guys, I'm just vibing on wk and was just wondering generally how long i might be here before i might get a bit consistant so thank you

[alpine rivet]

is there an elderbug one?

[true palm]

and no split for thk

i believe theres a giving flower to elderbug one

[alpine rivet]

ah, ill split manually for elderbug lol

[true palm]

theres lots of weird ones because meme cats

[alpine rivet]

my friends want me to do it

[frank obsidian]

I hope my run gets verified

[alpine rivet]

hey, can you send me how yours looks for any% nmg?

not sure what to put for greenpath

[alpine rivet]

oh, is there not a split for greenpath itself?

i guess that makes sense lol

[true palm]

there is (its greenpath (area))

[dapper cove]

I have one for green path

[sand nacelle]

wait how do you set a manual split

[true palm]

for a manual split, choose a trigger that will never happen in a run (like Mr Mushroom ones for instance are a favorite) and then split manually

[sand nacelle]

what

sorry that's a bit confusing

i mean i already got the hollow knight segment so is that already a manual split

[dapper cove]

Pick something that can’t be autosplitted

[true palm]

so like this

when it comes time to manually split you hit the split key, and the the rest of the autosplits will work

[sand nacelle]

oh

[true palm]

as for THK, it automatically stops the timer when you beat the game

no trigger required

[somber cedar]

Wtf, I was failing fireball skips, so I started recording to get feedback, and suddenly got like ten in a row

[alpine rivet]

ah, okay

[sand nacelle]

oh

so i don't need a trigger at the end

[true palm]

no trigger needed

[sand nacelle]

epic

then we are all set

[alpine rivet]

so this is good?

[dapper cove]

Oh wait I don’t need to manually stop at the end what

Lmao I didn’t know that

[true palm]

no you need to add a mr mushroom trigger at the beginning

otherwise when you manually split for elderbug

[jagged vault]

omg the rain world layouts are so pretty

[true palm]

it will count as your vs trigger

[sand nacelle]

anyways

[alpine rivet]

oh

[sand nacelle]

i finished the timer

finally

[alpine rivet]

i just wont split for elderbug lol

[dapper cove]

I need to customise my layouts more

[somber cedar]

oh are we doing layouts? I put way too much time into mine

[alpine rivet]

but ill still talk to him

damn, that's nice

[alpine rivet]

kinda wanna spend some time making mine look nicer

[true palm]

thanks slugcat is my favorite, and i'd speedrun rainworld and not hollow knight if rainworlds speedrun wasnt an 8 minute cutscene making up the end of a 20 minute run

you spend 40% of the speedrun in the ending sequence which is kinda sad

[alpine rivet]

how do you get the logo to be the title?

[dapper cove]

When I get home tonight imma work on it

[true palm]

right click on the square at the top left of edit splits

thats your title icon

[alpine rivet]

ohh, and set that as the game logo?

[true palm]

yup

[sand nacelle]

made some changes

[alpine rivet]

how would i get it to be like rixx's one?

[sand nacelle]

yep

all skills nmg

[true palm]

i'm actually not sure how you'd line it up that way, you'd have to ask them?

[alpine rivet]

@somber cedar hey, how'd you get your logo to look like that on live split?

it looks really clean

[somber cedar]

set a background image

[true palm]

current patch all skills does not get dash slash that early iirc because they can't use it for the lever, they have to get elegant key first on shade soul

[alpine rivet]

when i do that, it looks like this lol

[haughty fossil]

you have to make a full image to fit the layout

[true palm]

adjust it in a photo app

[haughty fossil]

add a blank space at the top, then make the bg image

[true palm]

or just use one of my various slugcat picture instead...

[somber cedar]

yeah, what Jamie says

just make a long black image with the logo at the top (or do as I did, and add fancy HK game assets)

[sand nacelle]

welp it looks like i'm ready for my first speedrun soon

i got the timer set up and stuff

[haughty fossil]

simply have your waifu as a livesplit bg 🙂

[somber cedar]

HK assets include some city and grimm tapestries that are really nice for stuff like that

[stiff delta]

Nice

Gl on the runs

[sand nacelle]

i'll do them maybe after dinner

[true palm]

recommend blurring/turning down the opacity a little for clarity on background images, helps a lot trust

[sand nacelle]

how do i do that

oop

nvm

[true palm]

that looks good

just adjust it to preference, but the point of doing that is so you can see it better

[sand nacelle]

also the down patch did work

so doing 1221

now i don't really know the path for all skills just yet tbh

[somber cedar]

Pisces video series is really good for that

also I just managed my first ever epogo, this will take forever to get down

[sand nacelle]

e

[dapper cove]

I’ve never done an epogo

[sand nacelle]

same

[dapper cove]

Or a fireball skip

[dense relic]

Any speedrun category that goes through White Palace and does not end with a Radiance Boss Fight?

[grizzled maple]

max% benchless

[dapper cove]

You only go through white palace for the fragment right?

[grizzled maple]

yeah. its still an obtainable %. just cant get void heart because bench

[dapper cove]

Yeah

[dense relic]

Oh boy

I found my speedrun

Thanks emray

[dapper cove]

Lmao

[sand nacelle]

watching the tutorials rn

[grizzled maple]

enjoy, heres the route :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3O8o1DclXU

you have to do a long lifeblood cocoon quest hitless :) and it's over if you fail :)

[dapper cove]

Oh god

Bc of the lifeblood heart right

At the abyss

[dense relic]

Better than freaking Radiance

If I fail that quest I can give up and go for True Ending Speedruns

But I want to try that out

Basically Charmless Deathless, right?

[frank obsidian]

HK speedruns are fun

[sand nacelle]

ye i'm gonna do one soon

[frank obsidian]

ive been checking speedrun.com at least once an hour lol

i submitted my first run yesterday

[dapper cove]

I did the same thing lmao

Give it a couple days though it will happen I assure you :)

I got my role two days ago

[somber cedar]

Trying to understand epogo: what did I do wrong here? too late on the jump? too slow on the second pogo?

[last inlet]

yeah your pogos need to be faster

you're dropping between the pogos

[somber cedar]

aight, thanks. the first one is fine?

[last inlet]

i think so yea

[frank obsidian]

I started an all skills CP run using emrays route and added my own big brain stuff because im a noob and cant do darkrooms lol, and then someone told me i cant submit segmented recordings even if i show the menu during them

[somber cedar]

not losing height is the perfect cue, thanks so much exorax

just got four in a row

[dapper cove]

Yeah I learned the route during the run because I didn’t care about time

So I spent 40 minutes at dark deepnest and isma each, 20 minutes at peaks and hornet each

[frank obsidian]

Yeah, the only downside to adding the extra stuff was timeloss, but I didnt care lol (until the run was invalidated )

[dapper cove]

Yeah there can’t be pauses because you might’ve modified the save data

Or it could be different runs patched together

[frank obsidian]

I didnt but I know that they dont know that

Im still sad tho

[dapper cove]

It’s still good practice

[frank obsidian]

yeah but that was two hours of time and now idk if i want to do another run today because what if i do bad on that run? worse than the other one? what if i mess up? i miss 3 days ago before ||REDACTED|| happened. I feel like im under pressure to do just as good as that run.

[alpine rivet]

okay, i'm gonna just roll with this for now

[frank obsidian]

that is a

M I L D

gap

[alpine rivet]

huh?

also, managed to get shade skip on my second try. pretty happy

[dark blaze]

whats max%

[alpine rivet]

run died when i got to city of tears and forgot what to do lol

need to have another look

[somber cedar]

mantis pogo is harder than epogo, feels like

[alpine rivet]

I didn't do either

[uneven pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jVHy8ZS640&t=0s this still work?

[alpine rivet]

oh damn that actually looks manageable lol

hopefully it is still possible like that

[uneven pike]

yup thats why im asking

trying it right now

ill let ya know

[tepid schooner]

there is an easier version of epogo than that

[dapper cove]

I can’t do either

[uneven pike]

wait really?

link it

[haughty fossil]

that is not easy

[tepid schooner]

https://youtu.be/bYsRWyHjcmM

[haughty fossil]

any looking in #strats

[uneven pike]

oh its not?

[haughty fossil]

no panta epogo is actually way harder than vsync epogo for cp

[uneven pike]

oh ok

[haughty fossil]

and vsync epogo is also 🥴 though it's low input complexity at least

[bronze anchor]

pantapogo took me hours and hours of practice to get consistent enough to use in runs

[haughty fossil]

comfypogo (video spearr linked) is generally the easiest after some practice

[bronze anchor]

I think it's worth learning at some point but definitely go comfypogo first

[sand nacelle]

i watched the tutorials and i am scared of the dark rooms

[hallow orchid]

yeah the first video was pantapogo and that is hardest by far, but comfypogo is (ish, it's still harder than 1221)

[haughty fossil]

i find it easier than 1221 epogo but ig i only do 1221 epogo in occasional randos

[hallow orchid]

I think comfypogo feels like a rando skip

[somber cedar]

oh god, the mantis upper body hitbox just vanishes when they lean into their forward slash. that explains so much

[hallow orchid]

so to me it's pretty intuitive, whereas 1221 epogo isn't

[haughty fossil]

yeah that's why its so

[bronze anchor]

there's just a lot of leniency on the timings, the only thing you really need to be a little precise with is the dash at the end to keep enough height

[somber cedar]

I heard that if you fail mantis pogo, you can use the big mantis in the middle as a backup, but I just can't manage to pogo her - when she forward slashes, she's to tiny to pogo all the way up I think

[haughty parcel]

so i just downloaded debug mod and got it set up but I can't see the save state options, does anyone know why this is? i got version 1.3.3

sorry if I should put this somewhere else

[hallow orchid]

yeah rixxian you have to wait until the mantis is standing up straight

[sand nacelle]

i'm kinda nervous ngl

[somber cedar]

I think save states are a 1.4 feature, Shuri. Are you on 1.2.2.1 or CP?

[frank obsidian]

Might do a 4MS run

[haughty parcel]

1.2.2.1

[haughty fossil]

you're on an older version of debug

get the newest modding api and debug from #resources

[haughty parcel]

ok thanks!

[haughty fossil]

(newest debug requires newest modding api)

[somber cedar]

multiple save states honestly give me life

[sand nacelle]

idk if i should try a run now

[frank obsidian]

Imma 4ms peepoArrive

[haughty parcel]

works now, thanks so much!

[fair lagoon]

Alright, so I've a bit of a 7 hour bomb to drop, but I'm unsure how/where. What happens when you wanna submit a run to a category that doesn't yet have any?

[dark blaze]

I dont think theres a leaderboard for other categories

if its not there, but more specifically Low% ETV

[haughty fossil]

good luck getting more people to run low% ge 🥴

[dark blaze]

dont worry milky i gotchu

we can race to sub 6

[fair lagoon]

Maybe. I might not wanna return to this for a while, but the thought's kinda fun!

[digital jewel]

just submit it to godhome ending I guess?

[fair lagoon]

but yeah, I wanna put this up and get bluename in style with it. But I'm unsure where this uh, goes. Lookin' like nowhere, for now? I assume it's not really stepping on any toes to post it on youtube and claim record by way of being only for now

[last inlet]

i would try and run it but i dont think i will ever have a straight 7 free hours

[dark blaze]

same tbh

[haughty fossil]

yeah i'd submit to ge until you can get more people to run it

[fair lagoon]

if you don't suck it's only like 6 hours. "Only."

[last inlet]

i think if i want to do that it's overnight during a summer holiday

which isnt ideal

also that'd be like 10gb of video which is 🥴

[fair lagoon]

Collector is 95% of the difficulty. Aside from him it's some mix of overworld FC, Markoth, annnnd idk absrad??

[true palm]

low% all bosses still seems more reasonable personally if you want to do a run like that, and you'd be more likely to get people to run it

[fair lagoon]

overworld FC doesn't have shade dash so he's kinda scary

[true palm]

people hate current patch

[dark blaze]

Abs rad wouldnt be that difficult with GC and ddive tbh

[fair lagoon]

yeah, absrad isn't really a big deal

just nerves and all that

[hardy crown]

Heya Milky, glad to see you're getting into speedrunning 😄

[dark blaze]

yeah i can def see that

[true palm]

anyways congrats on doing it, i remember talking about the route a while back

[fair lagoon]

Hah. I'm not really "getting into" speedrunning so much as wanting a blue badge and legitimizing a flex run. I don't think I'll compete with real runners in real categories

[hardy crown]

Hey now, any category is real 😉

[true palm]

if you hate yourself, you could gain permanent love and respect from homothety by running shade cloak before mantis claw next...

[fair lagoon]

Yeah. I did struggle. And I'm also real proud of the run, my death aside.

hardest I've ever shmooved

[digital jewel]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight#Godhome_Ending

[fair lagoon]

I'll throw it up there, sure

[hallow orchid]

no

otherwise you'd be locked out if you skip VK

[stray kestrel]

dream bosses are not a %

[true palm]

hence why low% te actually has a quit out routed now to beat zote in collo but quit out before the percent

[frank obsidian]

NEW 4MS PB! (27 MINS!)

[jaunty anvil]

loll

[frank obsidian]

Very happy

[true palm]

good job!

[uneven pike]

If that was your first run pretty nice!

[frank obsidian]

So Ill watch the video so i can give the time with loads, ill fill in loadless with ????. My question: WHEN is the run over? As soon as I touch shard 4 or as soon as it shows the 4ms together in the animation or as soon as it shows me with 6 health or something else?

[jaunty anvil]

OH IM SUCH AN IDIOT IM SO SORRY I THOUGHT U MEANT 4 milli seconds n ah shit im sorry haha

[frank obsidian]

Lmao

its fine

[dark blaze]

Is it possible for me to get the speedrunner Role?
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/yv6rw6xz
Run submitted a while ago, i dont have it anymore cus i took a discord break and left so sorry if its inconvenient

[true palm]

imagine pbing by 4ms

[frank obsidian]

no its 4 mask shards

[dusk portal]

As soon as you have 6 Health i think

[frank obsidian]

ok ty

[true palm]

loadless time is easy to access

[hearty adder]

This has unironically happened to me, got a 20 milisecond pb on 4ms

[dusk portal]

I'm gonna check my run to tell you exactly

[uneven pike]

can somebody help me with comfy pogo?

[true palm]

under edit splits, once you save them, it should be in there

[uneven pike]

im in speedrun vc

[true palm]

under real time not game time

[frank obsidian]

i dont use livesplit

[haughty fossil]

@digital jewel ur cute and also top of the list

[digital jewel]

fluffy why don't you use livesplit

[true palm]

its free, and easy to use

[haughty fossil]

blue hunt

[dark blaze]

Ty for the role and thanks Jamie

[frank obsidian]

idk what im doing

[digital jewel]

do you want your times to be faster? and also not have to ask here when the timing starts and ends every time you do a run?

[frank obsidian]

i guess yeah

[jaunty anvil]

what r u using to time ?

[frank obsidian]

I was just looking at as soon as i start falling in KP to as soon as the run ends (In this case when it shows me with 6 health according to person from before) and then i just see (example) "So the run started at 1:30 into the recording and ended at 25:00 so my time with loads is 23:30."

[true palm]

no if you have no livesplit, your time with loads will be used for your time without loads (aka automatically slower for not using it)

[jagged vault]

real time starts upon file select

this is stated in the rules

[frank obsidian]

ok then ill do it from tere

there

[uneven pike]

can somebody who knows comfy pogo help me with it in speedrunning vc?

[frank obsidian]

i can spell

[true palm]

I would, but i dont run current patch 🥴

[frank obsidian]

livesplit just looks super confusing to me

[true palm]

nah its pretty intuitive once you spend a minute looking at it

[uneven pike]

i cannot stress how useful livesplit is

[true palm]

also you can put cute slugcats in the background like so meaning its automatically superior to not having it

[frank obsidian]

[frank obsidian]

but i m dumb (sometimes)

[jagged vault]

confusing or not, it's the best, most versitile (spelling?) and most accurate tool we have out there

[true palm]

k heres case and point for livesplit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467985224466442/825463817634447401/unknown.png

[last inlet]

versatile and yeah it's super useful

[frank obsidian]

is there one with cats

[last inlet]

you can make a layout with a cat

[true palm]

i mean you can put any picture you want in the background

livesplit can be made too look however you want

its pretty fun to play around with layouts

typically you'll want something a little smaller if you have one monitor though

[frank obsidian]

OKay ill try out livesplit but dont be surprised if I end up accidentally breaking the internet while figuring it out

[true palm]

theres a guide for livesplit on src

[jagged vault]

i believe there is a guide

yeah

[uneven pike]

Here’s a cat pic if ya need one

[last inlet]

i personally just dont look at livesplit in runs since i only have 1 monitor

[frank obsidian]

just to be clear i can still submit the run without it but my time will be longer, right?

[true palm]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/cg9vl

[true palm]

yup and livesplit also makes it easier to compare to yourself and others

[jagged vault]

you are correct.

[hearty adder]

I don't mean to sound rude, but I've noticed many of your problems could be avoided by reading the rules in speedrun.com

[grizzled maple]

What zana said, it's been a common problem. If you feel like people here are losing patience with you, that's the root of why.

[frank obsidian]

i just feel more comfortable asking people tbh

oh

[grizzled maple]

We have pins and rules everywhere. Minimal effort will get you far.

[uneven pike]

hey emray do you know comfy pogo?

[grizzled maple]

These are common questions. Please respect the people who take their time to help you by meeting them halfway and reading resources

no not yet elemental

[uneven pike]

hmm maybe this is why people dont run much cp

[jagged vault]

elemental i would try to help out, but i am afraid i am just as bad at it as someone who doesn't know it

[hearty adder]

What's the problem in specific you're having with comfypogo?

[jagged vault]

i should really go and practice it lol

[uneven pike]

failing it?

[grizzled maple]

mathulu can 100% help though

[hallow orchid]

when you start running you don't have to do epogo, but comfypogo is definitely closer to 1221 epogo in difficulty than our previous versions

[grizzled maple]

im just running 1221 so i havent bothered yet

[hallow orchid]

yeah if you have specific problems/a clip I can help

[jagged vault]

they're in voice math

[haughty fossil]

generally when asking for help post a clip so we can see

[uneven pike]

im in the speedrun vc if you can look at it there?

[hallow orchid]

oh I can hop in voice in a minute

[sand nacelle]

i'm still scared ngl i haven't done the run yet

[frank obsidian]

same

[grand token]

Is there a way to discern input eaten from keyboard and bad timing on button presses? Because I feel like sometimes I'm just on bad timing, but I'd like to know if it's me or my keyboard

[frank obsidian]

When it says "Download and extract LiveSplit." does it mean open it?

[jagged vault]

It means extracting the files

[sand nacelle]

ye

[frank obsidian]

idk how to do that or even what it means

[sand nacelle]

use zip or win rar

just right click on the file

and extract it

[frank obsidian]

i dont see an extract option. I see open, always open files of this type, show in folder, and close

okay

[sand nacelle]

do you have winrar or zip?

[jagged vault]

Extract files is the prompt

[frank obsidian]

srry my screenshot button is being woozy

[digital jewel]

show in folder

then right click it and extract

[frank obsidian]

Extract all?

ok, thanks guys!

sorry i meant it as gender neutral

[true palm]

ur all good, i call people beans sometimes and i've had it not go over well, just something to keep in mind

[uneven pike]

@hallow orchid Installed debug and imediately hit comfypogo

[hallow orchid]

unironically it's so much easier to get a trick with debug because you can do it 100x in a row without interrupting it with time to reset it

[sand nacelle]

i should practice the skips needed for all skills

especially fireball skip and shade skip

[true palm]

all skips sounds like a fun category actually...

[sand nacelle]

i meants all skills

but all skips would not be a bad idea

[frank obsidian]

Isma's Tear any% skip

[hallow orchid]

all skips would be cursed as hell

[true palm]

the joke is the term "skip" is so relative it would be one of the longest categories

[hallow orchid]

we'd do mag ismas and then not pick up ismas so we could do cdashless unn skip

[true palm]

like even the amount of time to do all skips in-logic in randos would be insane

[sand nacelle]

but what are the skips needed for all skill?

[jagged vault]

No skips are needed

Many are used though, optimally

[hallow orchid]

well

[true palm]

you should check the src guides and pinned comments

[frank obsidian]

Not to be annoying again but which file do i open to open livesplit? is it livesplit.exe?

[true palm]

yup

[jagged vault]

Yes

[hallow orchid]

spike tunnel and ismas skips are effectively required

[frank obsidian]

ok ty

[hallow orchid]

as are dark rooms

[sand nacelle]

oh great

[jagged vault]

And shade skips

Lever skips

[sand nacelle]

ye i should definitly practice

[jagged vault]

Check out Pisces’ guide

On youtube

[sand nacelle]

i did but really fast

[jagged vault]

For the category

[sand nacelle]

i should watch it again tho

[frank obsidian]

do i trust it to make changes to my device?

[sand nacelle]

ye

[frank obsidian]

ok

[sand nacelle]

all speedrunners use it

[true palm]

have faith and confidence in thyself, for once upon a time, i was but a mere casual, wishing for sub hour in a category, feeling like mine own skill was but lacking in all regards, but now upon this fine hour, i'm actually okay (you'll improve if you put time into the game)

[jagged vault]

Incorrect, current patch all skills does not grt the lantern

[sand nacelle]

ik what to do for dark room crystal peak but deepnest is a little confusing

[haughty fossil]

"basically required"

[sand nacelle]

what about 1221 all skills

[haughty fossil]

not actually required, but far slower

[jagged vault]

No lantern

[sand nacelle]

so i get no latern?

[jagged vault]

Yeah i am talking about the optimal route

There is a route for everything, i could route in grubberfly’s elegy in any%

[true palm]

but its effectively required for the correct route, technically nothing is hard required in most categories

[jagged vault]

Or spore shroom

[sand nacelle]

so i should get no latern

and do the dark rooms?

[jagged vault]

Correct route is a bit iffy phrasing, but i get what you mean

[dapper cove]

there is no exactly "correct" route, it's just the most efficient route

[true palm]

start with optimal routing, and work from there is my advice

[dapper cove]

anything could be routed in, but most likely it won't be the most efficient

[sand nacelle]

okay well imma practice fire ball skips and all that

[jagged vault]

Gl on practice

[sand nacelle]

and the dark rooms

[hallow orchid]

yeah my point was that if you want to follow the guide resources, it's very hard to fit e.g. lantern or dung defender in

[dapper cove]

imo i like to throw myself into the deep end and learn the optimal route from the get go even if it's difficult

[hallow orchid]

other things are easier to deal with, like you can lose 30s and not do epogo

[dapper cove]

yeah

[hallow orchid]

but to get lantern you have to have good game knowledge and find a ton of extra geo

[sand nacelle]

i'm doing 1221 so it'll be a lot easier

[dapper cove]

the way i've structured learning routes is allow those smaller time losses, but don't allow for the major ones

[frank obsidian]

I did a big brain (at least i think) and routed my own geo in so i could have the lantern because i am a noob lol, the only problem was a 30 min timeloss but we dont talk about that

[dapper cove]

so even if it becomes a major time loss trying to do the optimal route, you at least know it and can whittle that down a lot

i know my first run i invested in more stag stations than necessary but it proved useful when i messed up the pathing by getting greatslash instead of cyclone

[jagged vault]

What category?

[frank obsidian]

allskills CP

[limpid ruin]

Not before 5 hours of any% practice after 100+ hours of all skills at least, still not consistent, but got somewhere with it

[dapper cove]

i feel like if you really need geo with all skills i'd go for vk as it isn't already in the route

[frank obsidian]

i was doing pretty good (at least i feel) until i learned i couldnt submit segmented clips

[dapper cove]

wk = watcher knights

[jagged vault]

Yeah watchers is hard as heck

Takes time to get decent at

[alpine rivet]

scared for watcher knights on my first true run tomorrow lol

tempted to go get a nail upgrade

[frank obsidian]

[limpid ruin]

I'd say some of the biggest things for all skills is just use savestate to practice dark rooms an hour each, and you should be set from there likely. They're not as bad as you'd expect, and that comes from a me who learnt this game slooooooowly 🥴

[jagged vault]

Savestates more like saviourstates

Because they’re so useful

[dapper cove]

i personally just pogo the knights and ddark whenever possible

[frank obsidian]

ok so is 4ms under HK category extensions

[dapper cove]

there's more efficient ways to do it but for now that's the way i handle it

[sand nacelle]

can you do save states in 1221?

[dapper cove]

i don't understand savestates at all so i just use dreamgate

[jagged vault]

Fluffy you can check

[low bramble]

you can check yourself on speedrun.com

dammit blue 🐌

[true palm]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/7br3d heres a cool guide for debug mod

[frank obsidian]

sorry sorry not trying to be annoying please dont get mad at me

[low bramble]

we’re not mad, but its just easier to check

[dapper cove]

i find someone asking constant questions comforting because they want to know what to do and don't want to mess up

unless they're asking the same question a million different ways... that's annoying lmao

[sand nacelle]

ugh i can't do the fireball skip

[frank obsidian]

i mean human interaction is nice too but sorry

[low bramble]

are you using quick cast?

[sand nacelle]

i should be

i swear i am

[dapper cove]

not being able to do fireball skip isn't a dealbreaker when doing runs

[low bramble]

yea they’re hard to get the hang of

[dapper cove]

in the one spot where it's important to make that jump there's that squib thingie there to pogo off of

[low bramble]

technically 32:xx is possible without them

but they’re still good to learn

[sand nacelle]

i finally did it

now i'm having trouble again

[dapper cove]

i haven't tried learning it yet

[jagged vault]

It’s hard to get consistent

Took me months

[dapper cove]

i have my own personal tier system to what i'm working on

based on how much time it saves

[jagged vault]

As a base advice just try it every run and if you miss it no big deal

[dapper cove]

so i'm still working on my larger time saves such as shade skip

it takes me a hot minute usually to get shade skip

like 5 minutes or so

after that i just need to refine the hard paths that i already know so isma, dark ddark and dark deepnest

and then i'm moving on to like epogo

[jagged vault]

Shadeskip is mainly about identifying how the shade moves

[dapper cove]

but i'm probs going to take it easy for now as i popped a blood vessel in my hand and it hurts like a truck

[jagged vault]

Once you have that down i personally find it pretty easy

[dapper cove]

i know how the shade moves, it's more timing

[true palm]

start low, and and then bring the shade up when it gets closer

[dapper cove]

i end up dashing off too late

[sand nacelle]

did it again

[jagged vault]

Yeah i meant more like movement in regards to distance

[dapper cove]

gotcha

yeah i thought you meant the shade's movement patterns

and i know when the shade would use spells based on your positioning

i once had my shade try to ddive me and it went straight into spikes and killed itself

works for me lmao

[sand nacelle]

yay did it once again

[jagged vault]

Shade spells are rng and i hate them

[dapper cove]

yeah

[jagged vault]

Why? I run ASS sometimes

(All stag stations)

[dapper cove]

it's like if you're at the position there's a chance

i liked that sentence without the context

[jagged vault]

Oh no

[dapper cove]

:)

[frank obsidian]

Im setting my splits rn

Grub #2 (Husk Guard)

[worn rampart]

Aight where’s the All Grass % chat

[frank obsidian]

oops, didnt mean to type that here lol

[sand nacelle]

dude

this is so hard

like bruh

[true palm]

skurrys meme runs, while they deserve a channel, are not really ran by many folks and thus dont have a channel (im shocked low% has a channel)

[hallow orchid]

Meme runs actually do have a chat though it's #misc-runs

[sand nacelle]

bruh why are fireball skips so hard

[dreamy bough]

redirecting people to glitched categories, yltsi :D

[true palm]

because you need to delay a frame or so between turning around and fireballing, but you need the gap to be as small as possible

[sand nacelle]

i mean is me using a controller bad

[true palm]

no i use controller

[sand nacelle]

i mean r1 is quick cast so that's what i am doing

[true palm]

and i do arguably the hardest fire ball skip of any main category daily

ye i use default binds

[sand nacelle]

i mean there is always the mosquito

i only done it 4 times

now i can't seem to do it anymore

okay that's enough practicing for fireball skip

imma practice the dark room

s

[dreamy bough]

QS skip? Tbf that one gets super free on keyboard with #epic #russian #cheats

but yeah use the control method you're most comfy with, it usually is the best, at least to start wtih

[true palm]

ye but epic russian cheats make all fireball skips pretty free

[frank obsidian]

Me after spending 20 minutes figuring out how to route my splits

Seriously though i have been thinking real hard about this but its all gonna pay off

[sand nacelle]

so i got crystal peak darkroom down

so i did some practice

i feel better

[frank obsidian]

How do i add split icons

it doesnt say that in the tutorial

[true palm]

so you can download the folder on src

[last inlet]

drag the image file onto the gap to the left of the split in splits editor

[true palm]

and then just drag the image file over to the highlighted spots

[digital jewel]

you can just double click the icon box

[true palm]

that also works

[dapper cove]

the 580 attempts....

[jagged vault]

Don’t be fooled, at least 50% of an attempt count is earlygame resets

[frank obsidian]

Okay, thanks everyone who has been helping me btw!

i did not mean to caps that

[sand nacelle]

h

[jagged vault]

You’re welcome, gl on running the game

[sand nacelle]

hi

i think i'm ready to do my first run

[dapper cove]

that is true

[haughty fossil]

bold to assume i get out of king's pass and into early game

[dapper cove]

my last stream i did four resets before my run got anywhere

[haughty fossil]

you gotta up those numbers

[frank obsidian]

gl!

[dapper cove]

i'll work on it jaimie but i haven't been speedrunning for very long

it's been like a week or two

[true palm]

most of my runs die to the first vengefly being an cooperative bully

[jagged vault]

I had a te session a few months back where i had 60 resets in two hours

Never got past claw

[frank obsidian]

Blue getting overplat vengefly in KP like

[jagged vault]

But then, i do have a reset problem

[true palm]

same

i have 7 completed low% runs

[jagged vault]

Ko vengefly is a bully

[true palm]

but 580 resets

[jagged vault]

Kp

It do be like that

[frank obsidian]

Unbind the hecking reset hotkey blue lmao

I have never reset

[dapper cove]

lemme see what i ahve

[frank obsidian]

i have only done 2 runs but shhhhh

[dapper cove]

bc i'm usually pretty determined to finish a run even if it's dogshit

[true palm]

it depends on what you're going for

if im losing 30 seconds because i failed queens station skip, im 90% of the time just going to reset unless i want to keep going because early game is boring

also i do my runs in steel soul mode so like yah

the game kindly resets for me if i do dumbs

[frank obsidian]

lol

[jagged vault]

At a point losing time is scarier than dying anyways

If you’re going for a PB

So then steel soul is just free swag

[true palm]

if i die its enough time loss where i'd just reset anyway

[sand nacelle]

oh crap i need to practice spike tunnel skip

[frank obsidian]

until you die in sanctum and u think "okay this wont be too bad of a timeloss" and then the steel soul screen hits

[true palm]

i mean low% walks to everything, and the only real death i see not being a major timeloss is getting bullied in trinomi drop

[dreamy bough]

dang, i thought 4ms nmms resets were brutal, but i got ~25/500 completed runs

[true palm]

yah no low%'s early game is rng dependent, getting a sub 3:55 for vs which is what i've been going for as of late is brutal ( the latest pb i had was a 3:57 which i was contemplating resetting on)

[stray kestrel]

jenkar if you want brutal resets just do kp ng +rng fast

[true palm]

ye go for wr in that

that shouldnt be too reset heavy

[frank obsidian]

do u perhaps have a link

[true palm]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/resources

"LiveSplit Icons"

some of them are sorted weird

[frank obsidian]

do i extrac it again

[haughty fossil]

yes that is what you do with zip files

[frank obsidian]

okay, thx!

umm

so

i put the pic in the wrong spot

and i cant remove it

[digital jewel]

fluffy

double click

[frank obsidian]

oh

sorry

[sand nacelle]

alright it's time

i might make a lot of mistakes

but i'll try my best ig

it didn't even start

why did the timer not start

[jagged vault]

Try restarting livesplit

Have you set up the autosplitter and game time?

[sand nacelle]

i swear i did

[grizzled maple]

Checklist:
#speedrunning message

[sand nacelle]

i have all of that

[copper patio]

can you cdcb with broken select screen on current patch

[digital jewel]

can you explain the question

[copper patio]

are you able to break out of crystal dash using broken select screen on current patch

is that better

[digital jewel]

break out of crystal dash using broken select screen??

[jagged vault]

Wha does ”broken” select screen mean here?

Do you mean inventory or pause screen

[copper patio]

being able to move around while in the select screen

[digital jewel]

can you describe a potential usage for this

[copper patio]

inventory

hmm

[digital jewel]

inventory

ok

[copper patio]

ghost state

[digital jewel]

wait ghost state?

[haughty fossil]

inventory storage?

[digital jewel]

that's more confusing

[jagged vault]

If you have inventory storage you can stop cdashes

[copper patio]

for broken select screen

[jagged vault]

You have full control of your character

[haughty fossil]

do you mean main menu storage?

[copper patio]

ok

no not main menu storage

one sec lemme see if it works

[digital jewel]

it sounds like inventory storage

but what does select screen mean in this context

[frank obsidian]

oooooooh setting up splits is so exciting!

i feel like a pro!

[copper patio]

inventory

as in having control over your character while in your inventory

can you do that in current patch

[haughty fossil]

that is inventory storage

[digital jewel]

ok yes inventory storage

you can do that

[jagged vault]

If you have control you can stop cdash

[true palm]

inventory storage is known, and is a major glitch

[copper patio]

ok

you have to go through a loading zone while your inventory is open right

[true palm]

easiest way to get it is during downwards transitions

[copper patio]

does it always work

[true palm]

not before the loading zone but after usually

not always but its easy to tell if you get it

[copper patio]

its not really working

[true palm]

pretty sure you can use it to get float? but idk nmms that well

[copper patio]

it closes when i hit the loading zone

[true palm]

idk how doable it is on current patch

its after you leave the loading zone

not when you enter it

[copper patio]

oh

[haughty fossil]

afaik you can't open inv out of a downwards transition on current patch

[true palm]

oh ye

idk how to do it on cp then

[copper patio]

ok what patch should i use then

[digital jewel]

no

that does nothing

in any patch

[jagged vault]

1221 or older

[copper patio]

k

[true palm]

for nmms use 1.0.2.8 right?

[haughty fossil]

are you on modded sqube?

[jagged vault]

Glitched runs use 1028 i belive

[copper patio]

wait whats the access code then

[jagged vault]

In the guide

On src

[digital jewel]

go to a ledge that's over water
walk off the ledge and press inventory at the same time
close inventory right before touching the water
double tap to open map when you reach the bottom
now you can leave the water and you'll have map open still

that's how to get inventory storage on current patch

[true palm]

cool beans

[copper patio]

ok thats actually really easy ive done that before

theres another way that i did a second ago but it requires a mod

i know that

i was messing around

[digital jewel]

ok so why did you need our help if you know how to do it already

I'm confused what you wanted

[copper patio]

i didnt know you could access it like that

[jagged vault]

But you’ve done it like that in the past still?

[sand nacelle]

welp

i lagged a lot

i might have to do current patch

[copper patio]

ive gone under the water

ive never done inventory storage though

[haughty fossil]

?srpsa moment? im very confused what we're talking about and why here

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[jagged vault]

What is your goal with this, what do you want help with?

[copper patio]

i was just trying to figure out how to do it

[true palm]

idk what goes on this channel anymore anyways 🥴

[copper patio]

well thanks lol

[sand nacelle]

ig i suck at the game

because stupid lag

[jagged vault]

I mean it makes sense to look for help here

[grizzled maple]

Learning how to do glitches is definitely a thing that belongs here

[sand nacelle]

and i died on the baldur part

it's so stupid

[jagged vault]

Game hard

[true palm]

yo do you have vsync on by chance?

[sand nacelle]

no

[true palm]

k good

[grizzled maple]

Just most runners don't run glitched categories so its a bit harder to get good answers

[sand nacelle]

but it's so laggy

oh wait

i might need to remove the particles

[true palm]

if ur on 1221, 1221 is not toaster friendly

and particles should always be off

[sand nacelle]

i might need to do current patch or something

[true palm]

current patch is much more low specs friendly

[sand nacelle]

i can still do the skips right?

[jagged vault]

Not all of them

[true palm]

which i think might need to be mentioned in the downpatching guide at somepoint (that older patches run worse than new ones, since it seems to be a recurring theme)

[jagged vault]

Current patch has their own leaderboards for most categories to provide even competition

[sand nacelle]

maybe i should try to remove the particles

[copper patio]

ok wait i have two more questions

[jagged vault]

Running on cp is very valid

Ask away!

[sand nacelle]

ye imma do the current patch category

[copper patio]

what patch is used in nmg and whats the beta access code because i didnt look it up

[haughty fossil]

https://pastebin.com/z5qVqnSQ

[jagged vault]

1221

Is used for nmg

[copper patio]

k

[haughty fossil]

there is no beta acccess code for old patches

[jagged vault]

Check the downpatching guide on sec

[haughty fossil]

you can see how to downpatch in a guide in the pins

[jagged vault]

Sec

Src

Wow spelling

[haughty fossil]

dw blue you've done worse

[true palm]

wow thats very supportive

[jagged vault]

Jmaiw ctue

[true palm]

what a positive and encouraging community we have

[sand nacelle]

yes

we need communties like these

[grizzled maple]

Blue go to bed

[jagged vault]

I am in bed

[grizzled maple]

Go more to bed

[digital jewel]

wtf it is really late

[haughty fossil]

xero clocks went forward

[digital jewel]

ooooooh

that's fucked up

that means I'm gonna get 1 hr less sleep

[haughty fossil]

simply wake up one hour later

[knotty vigil]

hey, does anyone know how to fix an error with livesplit skipping splits?

[sand nacelle]

i might try to do the speedrun tomorrow

i'm very tired

[digital jewel]

night jamie and blue

[jagged vault]

You’re not my momray

[true palm]

give more context...

[dark blaze]

Gn jamie and blue

[sand nacelle]

slep time

[jagged vault]

Can’t tell me how much to bed i should be going

[digital jewel]

I'm your dad blue

[jagged vault]

😠

[digital jewel]

go to sleep

[sand nacelle]

i'm the bug knight telling you to sleep

so sleep

[knotty vigil]

well, im running current patch any% and once i get to the gruz mother split and exit to main menu it completely skips it once i get to the menu

[haughty fossil]

that happens sometimes

[frank obsidian]

okay so on my first ever speedrun i was in cpeaks and i got hit, and it floated me into a wall and into spikes and killed me. what glitch was that?

[haughty fossil]

just revert the split, default is numpad8

[knotty vigil]

okay thank you!

[stray kestrel]

possibly bad float fluffy,

[digital jewel]

that happens sometimes?

[stray kestrel]

were you in a corner when you got hit?

[digital jewel]

since when?

[haughty fossil]

yeah occasionally gruz mom splits early for me, i think monstah reported having it too

[digital jewel]

interesting

[knotty vigil]

it's happened at least 5 times in the past 2 days when i started running

[frank obsidian]

idk lemme watch the clip, i gotta pull it up from a while ago

[sand nacelle]

tbh idk about speedrunning now i seem a bit demotivated now

[digital jewel]

do you have ordered splits on?

[sand nacelle]

idk if i can actually do it

i mean the skips are idk

i don't even feel like practicing them rn

[knotty vigil]

no i didn't but now i do

what does ordered splits do?

sorry i just started 2 days ago

[true palm]

simply channel your inner sunken cause fallacy like I do

[sand nacelle]

like i said i might do it tomorrow or when i get motivation

[digital jewel]

ordered splits makes livesplit only check for the next trigger in sequence

rather than all of them

[knotty vigil]

ohhhh

that's an issue ive had a lot

sorry im really new to this

[true palm]

ordered splits is required for some splits, and is a recommended setting

its more cpu friendly and accurate

[sand nacelle]

anyways sorry if i seem negative i just seem very demotivated after all that lag and stuff

[true palm]

yup

it has less triggers to check

not by a lot

ordered splits is just better if your splits are set up right imo

[grizzled maple]

Yeah its required for some categories like panths but recommended for all runs

[sand nacelle]

anyways idk how i'm gonna do it now

i mean i never speedrunned in my life i didn't know it would be that hard

idek how i'm gonna do all the skips

[stiff delta]

Its tough, but practice pays off

direct correlation between practice and results

[true palm]

maybe start with a shorter category if you feel overwhelmed like 4 mask shards

[stiff delta]

4ms is a bad category

[true palm]

4 mask shards is short sweet and digestable

[grizzled maple]

For reference on how much good practice makes a difference: once we got save states in debug wr in any% dropped by nearly 2 minutes

[copper patio]

me making my own speedrun category

[stiff delta]

Unironically dont unless you like losing runs to something that is not your fault

i might be salty

[true palm]

ur salty

[sand nacelle]

eh i'll still do all skips

[stiff delta]

Very

[true palm]

rng killing runs happens in all categories ngl

[sand nacelle]

but current patch

[jagged vault]

That’s a cool little story i hadn’t heard before

[stiff delta]

Yea but 4ms is like all rng

[sand nacelle]

but i have to put the debug mode in current patch too ig

[haughty fossil]

keep in mind all skills current patch is a very different route/category to 1221 all skills

[sand nacelle]

but idk

[grizzled maple]

Yeah it was 34 for a while

[stiff delta]

and its 8 minutes so you notice it way way more

[haughty fossil]

https://pastebin.com/z5qVqnSQ bumping this in case it helps w/ performance btw

[sand nacelle]

well maybe if i can make 1221 lag less

[haughty fossil]

i did and then i forgot

[jagged vault]

It’s useful and relevant

[haughty fossil]

don't judge my pepo brain

[frank obsidian]

Finished setting up my splits, moment of truth to test them!

[true palm]

theres consistent setups for most of the flys, and for a first category, i still recommend it since the barrier of practice before starting runs is small

[sand nacelle]

sorry if i seem whiny

i just feel a little salty rn

[stiff delta]

It is fun tho

[sand nacelle]

but i'll still do 1221 and tommorow i'll practice spike tunnel

and the acid skips

[stiff delta]

the better you get the worse it gets (4ms)

[sand nacelle]

also how do you do savestates in 1221

[jagged vault]

Debug mod

[stiff delta]

calling any% watchers suffering

jk

[knotty vigil]

i have another question

[sand nacelle]

but how in debug-

[true palm]

hotkeys

[jagged vault]

Check the keybinds

[stiff delta]

Set a keybind after pulling it up with F1

[sand nacelle]

k

[jagged vault]

One for make and one for load

[grizzled maple]

Its the exact same as cp

[haughty fossil]

if they're not there you may have an old version of debug btw

[stiff delta]

i use open bracket close bracket

[sand nacelle]

well imma go just watch yt vids and i'll see if i get motivation to practice and stuff

[frank obsidian]

okay how do i see my splits window in hk? it gets put behind the whole game

[sand nacelle]

and maybe i can actually do a speedrun

[stiff delta]

check on top in livesplit and then run hk in borderless windows

[stray kestrel]

in layout settings, check the always on top option fluffy

[knotty vigil]

for a new person to current patch any% should i upgrade my nail? im having trouble with watcher knights and THK

[stiff delta]

You can

[jagged vault]

Two options, either force the game to open windowed or open livesplit then witch to game window before livesplit window pops up

[knotty vigil]

im not sure if it'll save time though

[stiff delta]

i mean you can do whatever you want technically

[stray kestrel]

are you playing on 1221 or CP

[knotty vigil]

cp

[grizzled maple]

Yeah just get the journal at mantis village for the money

[stray kestrel]

are you doing deepnest route or qg?

[knotty vigil]

deepnest

[stiff delta]

Well optimally itll always lose time, but if you cant get past watchers than itll save infinite time

[knotty vigil]

yeah i guess

in my best run i died once to watcher knights

[stray kestrel]

are you getting spore shroom? it absolutely shreds thk

[knotty vigil]

no

[stiff delta]

Spore shroom revolution yltsi

[stray kestrel]

its super powerful for thk on current patch

[stiff delta]

Like a blender

[true palm]

spore shroom is the greatest beginner strat on current patch known to mortals

[knotty vigil]

and its also on the way to deepnest route right?

[stray kestrel]

yea

[true palm]

yup if you go deepnest route its optimal to use it

[stiff delta]

“Beginner” as math holds wr on switch with it

[stray kestrel]

its right before the breakable wall leading towards the fall to deepnest

[stiff delta]

Oh yea 1.5 nukes nuke strat

[stray kestrel]

in the room with the big thorn spike and boucy mushrooms

[true palm]

but switch input lag is so bad its not even hollow knight tbf

[knotty vigil]

is 1 hour 1 minute good at all for a completely new runner?

[true palm]

a finished run is good

[stiff delta]

Thats fair

switch isnt real

you get to decide what is good for yourself

[knotty vigil]

i really wanna get sub 1 hour

[stiff delta]

Then go get it!

I believe in you

[knotty vigil]

thanks!

[copper patio]

question are mods not allowed in any category?

[stray kestrel]

do you use savestates to practice the parts you struggle with?

[knotty vigil]

yes i do

[haughty fossil]

mods are only allowed on the hollow knight modded board

[stray kestrel]

only the load normalizer and on modded boards

[jagged vault]

Only on the modded leaderboards

[copper patio]

cool im gonna do softlock%

[stray kestrel]

i am extra snail today

[haughty fossil]

can i triple 🐌

[jagged vault]

Speedrun.com/hkmods

[copper patio]

ik thats probably not a thing

but im gonna softlock myself as fast as possible

basically im gonna start from godhome atrium, go to false knight and softlock

[jagged vault]

Calling scs on jamie for being too fast

This is a big issue in the community

[grizzled maple]

Get faster nerds

[stiff delta]

traffic laws coming in

getting me radar gun

[grizzled maple]

Debug your discord and practice smh

[stiff delta]

Gonna sit behind a sign and definitely randomly pick people to arrest

[frank obsidian]

Problem with method 2: I cant move the livesplit to the corner of my screen (it statrts in the middle) without re-hiding it, and when i record, it only records HK, not livesplit. What do i do?

[copper patio]

can i get opinions on softlock% or no

[stray kestrel]

set up a capture for hk and livesplit separately

[jagged vault]

Add a window capture in OBS

For livesplit

[frank obsidian]

i use the xbox game bar to record things

[rotund jackal]

To have livesplit in the corner by default you can put it there and then save layout

[frank obsidian]

oh okay

[haughty fossil]

use obs to record things then

[jagged vault]

Using obs might be a good idea then

Again jamie?

She’s too fast

[haughty fossil]

blue go to bed

[stray kestrel]

blue go to bed

[stiff delta]

Blue go to bed

[true palm]

[jagged vault]

That’s 2 more snails for jamie

[stray kestrel]

im not snail im reiterating for emphasis

[rotund jackal]

Also for some reason livesplit doesn't stay on top for me if I minimized hk before it fully loaded. You might wanna restart hk

[stiff delta]

Jamie collects power like a vampire or something

more snails gives her more power

[dark blaze]

Thats an interesting way of saying 🐌

[knotty vigil]

is there anything i should change about my setup?

[true palm]

i prefer to show less splits and more info like possible timesave

but its all preference

[frank obsidian]

idk what obs is or how to record with it i also have 15 mins before i have to go

can i just screenshot the livespit at the end?

[true palm]

unfortunately all runs are backed up with vods to be verified

[stray kestrel]

to submit to the boards no

[jagged vault]

No

Video proof is required

[stray kestrel]

to farm shroompogs yea

[frank obsidian]

fuk

can someone help me with it tmrw?

[haughty fossil]

there are several guides on how to set up obs online

[frank obsidian]

oh okay

[stiff delta]

Pins

[frank obsidian]

just go fast

[haughty fossil]

for leaderboard speedrunning, pins
for the achievement:

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[stiff delta]

technically jamie snailed bc of pins

[haughty fossil]

i added info tho

[knotty vigil]

if i do eventually submit a run will i be able to submit another one after if i beat my previous time?

[stray kestrel]

yea

[frank obsidian]

ye

[stiff delta]

I said pins first ez game gl next time

[stray kestrel]

your fastest time will be the one thats displayed on the boards

which category

[stiff delta]

9:32 or something

[haughty fossil]

https://speedrun.com/hollowknight

[stiff delta]

Speed is a key part of speedruns

[knotty vigil]

how many cycles is the uumuu kill on current patch any% on average?

[sand nacelle]

hi it's me again

[digital jewel]

noodle ?srpsa

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[knotty vigil]

damn

my best is 8 cycle haha

[true palm]

basically cp uumuu is big floaty bean, and so you go for more double hits

[knotty vigil]

ok

are double hit more rng based or is there a strat?

[stray kestrel]

you can set them up fairly consistently