speedrunning

[quiet saddle]

How come? Is it a low% thing?

[true palm]

i died

low% watcher knights is brutal and i was sick of resetting

i lost a run a while back to bad uumuu rng

[quiet saddle]

Man, navigating without dash sounds monkaS lmao

[true palm]

its not bad when you get used to it

dont recommend if ur bad at fireball skips though

[quiet saddle]

I'd imagine

Fireball skips remind me of waveshining from melee

[true palm]

honestly the coolest part of the run is the crystal peaks room

https://clips.twitch.tv/SingleViscousRedpandaChocolateRain

[quiet saddle]

It feels like a pretty difficult input to grasp but it'll become consistently doable soon enoug

Damn, nice

So many of those timings seem pretty tight

Like that run off claw is prob a lot harder than it looks

[true palm]

the wall jumps off the conveyors are super rough

[quiet saddle]

Yea, I'd imagine you just drop and die a lot there

[true palm]

the fireball skips pretty lax though, since you can wall jump on the side of the platform

[open swan]

charm build for tratior lord?

[true palm]

id ask #hk-help

[open swan]

#hk-help is ofline

[stiff delta]

this isnt the place for that tho

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[remote scarab]

hello, is this a good build for speedrunning PoP? shaman stone, sharp shadow, strength, dashmaster and sprint master

[thorn jasper]

that looks pretty good. some folks also like Mark of Pride for extra reach on their pogos

[remote scarab]

hm well i’ll remove dashmaster and overcharm with MoP

[twin swallow]

MoP makes me hit thorns lol

[thorn jasper]

I think dashmaster saves more time than MoP though?

[twin swallow]

dashmaster is great in QoL but downdash overriding normal dash sucks

[stray kestrel]

what does like wr use?

[remote scarab]

strength then?

[spice cradle]

dashmaster doesnt save that much time. if you are running with dashmaster you dont need strength

[stray kestrel]

dashmaster just takes practice

[spice cradle]

doesnt save*

[twin swallow]

strength and shaman are only useful in the final room, and kingsmoulds don't have that much HP

[remote scarab]

yeah i’ll remove strength

thanks

[woven glacier]

aaa my run got accepted on speedrun.com https://www.speedrun.com/hkmemes/run/yj18k0gy

Time to improve even more 😤

I'm getting top 5 next

[twin swallow]

congrats and welcome

[frank cobalt]

so I just installed the newest modding API and added the hitbox mod, and my controller isn't picked up

any thoughts?

and.. never mind. randomly fixed on restart

[hearty adder]

Between being top 10 and that thumbnail, this run is already #1 in my eyes

[woven glacier]

❤️❤️

[flat merlin]

Can somebody give me the command i need to put in to my command prompts to downpatch?

[verbal stag]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/jlten

[sage harness]

Would this be the right spot to get help down-patching HK?

[slim geyser]

pins have a guide

[sage harness]

I looked at the guide, but im getting an error when i use the executable to patch steam

[thorn jasper]

show us the error

[humble oracle]

I'm trying to set up livesplit, but there are a ton of blank lines and I can't figure out how to get rid of them. Can anybody help?

[slim geyser]

yeah you change that in layout

layout setting > splits> total splits

[humble oracle]

oh ok, thanks!

[slim geyser]

also, any @hidden fractal ?

[hidden fractal]

noooooooooo

[slim geyser]

[hidden fractal]

is this the new one

[hidden fractal]

e

[sage harness]

The new one?

[hidden fractal]

the most recent one tm

[sage harness]

Most recent Steam patcher?

[hidden fractal]

yes

[sage harness]

It's the one listed on the speedrun.com guide

[hidden fractal]

what's the link

[sage harness]

https://github.com/fifty-six/zig.SteamManifestPatcher/releases/download/v3/SteamDepotDownpatcher.exe

is that the link you were looking for?

[hidden fractal]

yes

Suicife

Suicide

Ok

What happens when you run download depot in steam

also what steam version

[sage harness]

download depot, as in the steam console?

[hidden fractal]

yes

[sage harness]

is this the right steam application that I should be checking the version of?

[hidden fractal]

That's good yeah

I'll look at it in a minute I'm helping my family with something rn

[sage harness]

no problem, take your time

Im seeing what I can do, anyways

I feel like im getting close, but I couldnt tell you

I got it

[hidden fractal]

what'd you do

[sage harness]

I followed a steam guide that was just how to downpatch any steam game

it used some other software that wasnt on speedrun.com

[stiff delta]

depot downloader?

[sage harness]

Yeah, something like that

Or maybe it was on there, just wasnt the top link that I was trying

either way, I got it. Thanks for trying to help

[hidden fractal]

that means mine is still broken

feelsinvertedman

[hidden fractal]

about to watch it be broken on the not beta

nvm

oh bruh how old is your steam

[digital jewel]

Lmao

[haughty fossil]

56 goes through all 5 stages of grief in 2 minutes (colourised)

[hasty cliff]

Question is there Hornet%?

[torpid pollen]

aluba%

[hasty cliff]

what?

[haughty fossil]

aluba% kills hornet 1 then kills an aluba

[torpid pollen]

kill the aluba in the lake of unn

basically hornet% plus aluba

[hasty cliff]

oh

[ionic cargo]

it's pretty much the same thing

[torpid pollen]

terrible category, would not recommend

[haughty fossil]

incorrect 🙂

[torpid pollen]

well only for grinding purposes

starting off you should be good

[hasty cliff]

okay

[summer umbra]

whas an unknown category i can do

or like an easy one

easy-ish

[ionic cargo]

aluba% is kinda easy

[summer umbra]

ight cool ill do it later

[meager current]

menderbug%

4ms

[normal aspen]

all skills is pretty chill for a main cat

[ionic cargo]

unless if your on console

[meager current]

whats different

[ionic cargo]

you can't open menu mid fall

[meager current]

rip

4ms is still good

🙂

[normal aspen]

its pause menu it works

[ionic cargo]

wdym?

[normal aspen]

you can pause in mid air

which is whjat u use to get early control for menderbug%

[ionic cargo]

oh yeah i forgot its pause menu in menderbug%

[summer umbra]

wait how can i get speedrunner rank, do i hav to get wr cos das acc so long

[weary root]

check the pins

[summer umbra]

no idea how to

[sonic crane]

F1 on desktop discord opens the help

[haughty fossil]

pins are in the top right

[verbal stag]

needs more arrows imo

[meager current]

not clickbait enough

add some big red text

[summer umbra]

dat doesnt explain it at all makes no sense

bruh im not submitting a role dat takes ages

[haughty fossil]

[digital jewel]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[verbal stag]

ok then you cant get the role

[summer umbra]

does it matter what category?

[fair island]

Click on where the arrow points

[normal aspen]

why do you want the role if you aren't interested in speedrunning

[summer umbra]

personal reasons i dont want to explain

[haughty fossil]

this server actively made a decision to not have cosmetic roles

please don't try to use speedrunning as one

[tough breach]

if you want a cosmetic role you'll have to buy nitro and boost the server

[digital jewel]

If you're going to troll in here you'll just get warned

[royal gorge]

I love this guy tbh

[harsh mason]

i think you should dm all the mods like the last troll

he was pretty funny

`🔨 User banned: Floof#1432 (703261699997827142)

Responsible moderator: Dyno#7532 (168274283414421504)
Reason: DMing%20a%20lot%20of%20random%20people%20and%20mods%20asking%20for%20a%20%22spare%20steam%20account%20with%20HK%20on%20it%22%20while%20also%20attempting%20to%20ping%20everyone%20to%20get%20it`

yes

his first message was @ everyone does anyone have a steam account with hk on i can use

paraphased because iirc his grammar wasn't 1/10th as good as that

[meager current]

:woozy_face:

[ionic cargo]

oh yeah i remember that

[harsh mason]

it was like a week ago

not exactly ancient history

[jaunty anvil]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DependableCrazyEggAllenHuhu-rJcxEII6Tuha9Dhk ????? HUH

what happened here ? is it cuz i inventory dropped into the spikes ?

[digital jewel]

yes

just storage on the stag text box

[dreamy bough]

Major glitch, right?

[digital jewel]

don't do it intentionally

but as long as you don't use it for anything it's fine

you can scroll through dialogue while moving

[dreamy bough]

could activate the stag while walking out i think

[digital jewel]

yeah

[steady lynx]

Bench storage?

[dreamy bough]

or buy it at least

[haughty fossil]

this isn't bench storage

but you could just use this dialogue storage to transfer the stored object to the black egg temple door

[steady lynx]

I've always wondered about those spikes, is it faster to damage warp or just go around?

[haughty fossil]

iirc its faster to go around

[steady lynx]

Not true

[haughty fossil]

unless you're already planning on benching

[digital jewel]

I think even if you're benching it's slower to take damage there

[steady lynx]

I consider Dad to be the real WR holder for AS console

[digital jewel]

I used to damage those spikes but someone timed it for any% a while ago and found it to be slower

[haughty fossil]

you def need the hazard early control for it to be faster

[steady lynx]

So on cp it'd be faster if you inventory drop into them

[haughty fossil]

no its still slower

it is, however, faster than trying to go around then damagetanking the spikes for no reason

[steady lynx]

Well that's just not very useful then

[dreamy bough]

the early control itself is okay?

[steady lynx]

Yeah, 112 does it in isma's

[haughty fossil]

afaik this was discussed before and yes hazard early control is fine

i think the major glitch is inv early control during death anim

[steady lynx]

It's just that you're not allowed to die with inventory open

I don't know why I thought it was banned to inventory early control on hazards when I started running

[dreamy bough]

okay - would be starved on hp at this point in the run so probably not gonna be useful for me but good to know

[haughty fossil]

i mean it's slower anyway so

[steady lynx]

TE NMMS will surely prosper thanks to that

[dreamy bough]

with early control, to talk to the stag?

[steady lynx]

I don't even think TE NMMS uses that stag but ignore that

[haughty fossil]

ignore me

[normal aspen]

Goodnone jame

Also te nmms

[digital jewel]

also you can just use map storage to do that anyway

[steady lynx]

Killing Marmu however many times

[haughty fossil]

goodnight insomnia

[dreamy bough]

yeah, i meant for nmg

[steady lynx]

Never really understood map storage, does it just cancel any animation?

[normal aspen]

It's basically the I want control now please button

[digital jewel]

yea basically

[normal aspen]

How could you tell

[haughty fossil]

its ur bedtime

[normal aspen]

Have you even been to bed yet

[haughty fossil]

yes its a school day

[steady lynx]

And when you cancel vs animation you retain the lack of gravity?

[haughty fossil]

my sleep schedule is fixed if you consider getting 4 hours of sleep fixed

[normal aspen]

[ionic cargo]

you need sleep

[normal aspen]

Uni went back. Bed at 10pm up at 12:30am coz my body hates me

[haughty fossil]

correct

[normal aspen]

Basically yeah, you're interrupting the animati okn before it sets your gravity back to normal

[ionic cargo]

idk i dont do it?

[meager plover]

i got a top 20 run :D

[chrome bramble]

for what category

and nice

[meager plover]

p5

[ionic cargo]

congrats

[meager plover]

i almost got a 1min pb right after but i got hit on abs rad and fell to my death right before the final hit :(

but i'm done with that category

gonna try to learn any%

[chrome bramble]

any% is fun

[meager current]

any% is fun when you arent on lurien split : )

[chrome bramble]

do you need the route?

[chrome bramble]

True

[meager plover]

yes please!

[chrome bramble]

ok

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=C42AF2EAB80BA62!142912&ithint=file%2Cpptx&authkey=!AJFA9Z_8nlfraKY

[meager plover]

thank you

[chrome bramble]

np

[meager plover]

it doesn't load

[meager current]

fireb0rn has a guide

its on his channel

[meager plover]

can you send me the link?

my internet isn't the best rn

[last inlet]

fireb0rn's is for 1221, idk what patch you're on

[ionic cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfkLKB8O1Ff0-AApWYqqgFjMcMMVaW_JH

[limpid ruin]

The fireb0rn guide is for 1221 technically, but there's a ton of stuff that works for cp as well

[meager current]

it works fine for cp as well, you just gotta take some small changes

[last inlet]

yeah there's a few minor things between the patches

[meager plover]

how can i depatch?

[last inlet]

the route will mostly be completely fine

[meager plover]

or however you say it

[last inlet]

guide on srcom

[chrome bramble]

are you on pc or console

[limpid ruin]

And the main thing is it teaches concepts and how to determine things like how you choose your movement lines etc

[vocal solstice]

im gonna learn how to speedrun hk can someone help me

[limpid ruin]

The pins are a great place to start

[meager plover]

pc

[vocal solstice]

ive done the complete game steel soul 100% in 11 hours

[last inlet]

follow some guides and then ask if you have a more specific question

[chrome bramble]

category?

[last inlet]

it's hard to give very generic help

[ionic cargo]

fireb0rn's first video in the playlist goes through it

[vocal solstice]

any%

[meager plover]

ok

thank you all!

[last inlet]

see

[vocal solstice]

im on nintendo switch so i wanna know if there are any drawbacks

[chrome bramble]

1221 or cp (current patch)

[vocal solstice]

cp

[chrome bramble]

oh not many

[last inlet]

you'll mostly just have to deal with no downpatch+rta timing

[limpid ruin]

This video is honestly rather out of date, the text guide in the pins are much better

[meager current]

input lag

[meager plover]

rta?

[last inlet]

real time

[meager plover]

oh

[limpid ruin]

The switch run is completely fine as long as you can record both the screen and audio. You'll compare to other switch runs so it's fair like that

[last inlet]

on pc we use livesplit which has a built in loadless time

unfortunately it's not possible to sync that up to a console

[chrome bramble]

frame rate

[ionic cargo]

unless if you're doing category extensions

[last inlet]

there's a separate board for any% so you'll be fine

[vocal solstice]

can someone tell me all the drawbacks that are on switch

[last inlet]

.

[haughty fossil]

give it a while... like a pretty long while

still need to migrate to google slides

[knotty vigil]

do you know hunt hussle

[last inlet]

is this related to speedrunning?

[knotty vigil]

yes

[last inlet]

ok good

not personally

[haughty fossil]

hunthussle doesn't usually talk in these channels

[vocal solstice]

is there anything on the switch u cant do on pc

[last inlet]

dont think so

[chrome bramble]

not really

just minor changes

[last inlet]

pretty much the only change to gameplay is you have to play on versipn 1.4.3.2

[vocal solstice]

how do you do that

[knotty vigil]

do you have any speedrun placements

[last inlet]

you mean leaderboards?

[knotty vigil]

yes

[last inlet]

look on speedrun.com

[knotty vigil]

are you there

[true palm]

anyone with a blue name is

[last inlet]

^

the most populated board is i think any%

[true palm]

any% has like 400 runs now

[knotty vigil]

are u better than fireb0rne

[last inlet]

no

[true palm]

no but theres a couple who have better times

[last inlet]

fire's like 3rd i think (any%)

[true palm]

ax2u and pest both have better any% times

[chrome bramble]

pest and ax2u are ahead of him

[last inlet]

yea

[chrome bramble]

but fire is well known

[vocal solstice]

how do u change versions on the switch

[true palm]

you can't

[last inlet]

fire's probably the most well-known member of the speedrunning community outside of it

[vocal solstice]

oh

[true palm]

thats what we were saying is different about switch

[chrome bramble]

definitley

[true palm]

you're forced onto current patch

[last inlet]

that's what no downpatching means

[vocal solstice]

im to poor to get it on pc so

[chrome bramble]

you dont need to

[vocal solstice]

i guess ima practice now

[true palm]

oh no you can still speedrun on switch

theres a whole leaderboard for it

[last inlet]

switch runs are still perfectly valid

[ionic cargo]

didn't hunt leave this server?

[chrome bramble]

ok but what is a good time to aim for on dash on switch my best time is 16 minutes

[haughty fossil]

whatever time you're happy with

[ionic cargo]

dash% isn't run it is aluba% which a bit more

[haughty fossil]

if you want to set targets based on other runners, the runs are available on srcom

[last inlet]

i assume they just mean the cloak split

[ionic cargo]

ok

[last inlet]

generally starting off comparing to top runners isn't a great idea though

just kinda gets demotivating since you'll take a lot of practice to match them

[chrome bramble]

yeah i think a good ending goal for me is 10 minutes

[true palm]

oh i think comparing off top runners to see whats possible is great

[shut beacon]

what about ps4 , is that similer

[true palm]

dont aim for 10

[haughty fossil]

10 minutes is what wr gets

[last inlet]

yes

[chrome bramble]

tf

[true palm]

i'd say 12 is respectable

[chrome bramble]

i thought wr was 5 minutes

[last inlet]

ps4 and switch have like exactly the same limitations

[ionic cargo]

no way lmao

[last inlet]

that's probably rta vs split

[true palm]

wr is 5 minutes to get to greenpath

[limpid ruin]

Yea, ps4 ps5 xboxone and the new xbox all on console leaderboards in their own categories for fair comparisons

[chrome bramble]

they do but switch has this little thing called stick drift

[true palm]

they also have different load timings

[last inlet]

true

[true palm]

because you know, console runners have to deal with load time

[last inlet]

you should compare with the boards for the console you're running obv

but otherwise switch/ps4 should play pretty much exactly the same

[haughty fossil]

(for reference, leaderboard runs go off real time, not the in game timer)

[ionic cargo]

category extensions doesn't have their own board for console

[last inlet]

yeah in game timer is a bit weird

so it's not used for verification

[true palm]

in game timer is so bugged

i think it said one of my runs was 8 seconds a while back

[ionic cargo]

lmao

[haughty fossil]

wr pog

[last inlet]

nobody's ever beating that

[meager current]

wr

[haughty fossil]

iirc blue got 2s though, more wr than wr

[last inlet]

the in game timer seems to generally be somewhere between loadless and rta

[shut beacon]

your too good

[last inlet]

but obviously not always

[meager current]

why is the igt so broken other than spaghetti code

[ionic cargo]

god gamer moment

[true palm]

in game timer be like

[last inlet]

amazing

[ionic cargo]

[meager current]

low% wr

8s

[true palm]

just a god gamer i guess

[ionic cargo]

there needs to be a god gamer emote

[meager current]

[ionic cargo]

ah yeah, except im broke (thats a server boost emote)

wait lmao, thats from fireb0rn's server

[meager current]

yeah lol

[whole glade]

those gold splits tho

[meager current]

[true palm]

ye changed my spotify playlist and kinda popped off

amazing what happens when you dont screw up in dark deepnest and die less to wk

sub hour was my goal for the category, but i didnt expect me to hit it that hard, so now im learning true ending

[last inlet]

also learning te and dying far too much to like every boss

[meager current]

10 minutes behind wr is pog

[ionic cargo]

then do 112%

[true palm]

eh

i might do 106

112 is a little too long for me

[last inlet]

why would you run cp

[ionic cargo]

106% is basically flukenest go brrrr

[true palm]

ye ik

but if i was going to run a 1xx it would be 106

[neon island]

106 is pog

[true palm]

most likely im going to do any% steel soul sometime soon because its just low% with dash

[last inlet]

and you cant die

but the route is basically the same yeah

[true palm]

i dont die in any% anyway outside the skip

[last inlet]

flex

[true palm]

but having dash makes watcher knights 10 times easier

[last inlet]

that one randomizer where i had shade cloak and wings for wk but only nail 0 + base vs

[true palm]

sounds fun

[last inlet]

way easier than any%

yeah it was

[true palm]

any% wk has it pretty good though

shamans is really nice, being able to hit them above the role line

[last inlet]

yeah shamans is huge for damage

[true palm]

not even just the bonus damage

the hitbox

[last inlet]

being able to get those doubles is the biggest damage increase tho

[true palm]

you can double without it but its really tight

[last inlet]

(ik it's possible with no shamans but it's way harder)

[true palm]

i believe my pb watcher knights for low% had a triple at one point

[last inlet]

ooh nice

i only rarely get those with shamans

[ionic cargo]

low% be like

[true palm]

idk the thing i like about any% is the damage rotation is so much more lax

we have to pogo over the wk, and if we mess up the timing and he bounces

its a little rough

anyways time to grind true ending shadeskip for a bit

[blissful anchor]

Everytime i create a new save file on my downpatched version

I just get stuck in a black screen

[true palm]

does it do that if you load a file as well

[blissful anchor]

nope

not if i load a file from normal game

[true palm]

idk i'd try clearing the registry

[blissful anchor]

I get a message from

hollow knight teacher

idk if thats normal

[fair island]

that's the game opening cutscene

[blissful anchor]

oh lol

Is it in the normal version too?

[fair island]

yes

[true palm]

yah but it skips differently

[blissful anchor]

oh sorry
I just didnt remember that

[true palm]

just spam start when you start a new file

to skip them

and it also opens your inventory as soon as possible

[blissful anchor]

then I get stuck in a blackscreen

How many assets are there in hollowknight data?

cuz i got 373

idk if I got all of them

[true palm]

you missed some

[blissful anchor]

ohh

[true palm]

its 391

[blissful anchor]

that explains it

[true palm]

wait for the "depot download complete" message

[blissful anchor]

is that normal?

[true palm]

its ok, i've done the same thing, the download takes forever

[blissful anchor]

cuz i feel like its in a never ending cycle

[true palm]

thats from you trying to launch the game

[stuck raptor]

onfocus messages is you changing steam tabs

[blissful anchor]

so i just need to wait

[stuck raptor]

yes

[blissful anchor]

okay thanks!

[true palm]

you might need to restart the downpatch if its stopped, it takes quite a while, just wait for the depot download complete message

[stuck raptor]

^

[blissful anchor]

yep

I think ima do that

[stuck raptor]

just wait for the depot download complete message

reposting for emphasis

[blissful anchor]

ty so much

[true palm]

np, downpatching can be a little wonky

[blissful anchor]

yep

Okay I think it works now

It just stopped downloading after 373

for some reason

[dreamy bough]

is it still stopped, or restarted, it can be reallllly slow

[blissful anchor]

i restarted it

and now it works fine

[summer umbra]

am i allowed to talk ab the speedrun achievement in dis place cos i need help w it

achievements*

[ionic cargo]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[summer umbra]

thanks

[frank cobalt]

with the hitbox mod for 1221 - is there any way to make it OFF by default?

it's annoying having to go turn that off every time I load up 1221 modded

[rotund jackal]

I don't know if there is, but I've noticed that it doesn't load properly when the timer mod is installed, so in effect it's off by default with it

[blissful anchor]

why are only 1.4.3.2 modding api here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9X1ZrWGFxUGdydTg

I thought 1.2.2.1 modding api would be there too

[fair island]

open the "old" folder

[blissful anchor]

oh im blind

thanks!

[amber lotus]

Anyone want to take me under their wing and help me learn all skills? Been working with the YouTube guide, but sometimes getting a little bit more specific advice in certain areas can help

[true palm]

i cant give all skills specific advice, but i can give advice on how to learn sections of a run

is there a section your currently struggling with?

[autumn quest]

kinda doubt that anyone knows, but in the elegy% wr kanra said she was using a guide, would anyone happen to have said guide or know where to find it?

[leaden python]

why would you doubt that, here's your guide
https://pastebin.com/x88XaQud

[autumn quest]

tysm!

[amber lotus]

@true palm soul sanctum. This place sucks

Those guys spawning in your face, just taking way too much dmg through the area and been frustrating to say the least..

[true palm]

soul sanctum is arguably one of the worst sections of all skills from what i hear

with sections like that, grinding out different enemy spawn patterns works the best

i think i spent maybe 3 hours on just my crystal heart split for low% but spent almost no time on my lantern split, it definitely varies

soul sanctum sucks to the point where almost every category gets geo to buy lantern to avoid the area

so dont stress it

[rotund hollow]

hi! idk if this is the right channel to ask about it but i've started doing speedruns with livesplit yesterday and it worked fine, but today my livesplit doesn't show up when i run the game in fullscreen mode, any advice?

[true palm]

it doesnt normally show up if you're not on windowed with only one monitor

[rotund hollow]

thought that but yesterday it worked fine so i didn't know if it could work in fullscreen

[true palm]

forgot who had the tool but somewhere in last few days someone posted the application that lets you display a copy of a window on top ur current one, allowing you to work around it

[rotund hollow]

isn't there a startup setting on steam to run hk in borderless windowed mode?

[stuck raptor]

-popupwindow

^ put in launch options

and turn off fullscreen setting in game

[true palm]

does it have to be the default hollow knight directory

[stuck raptor]

no

[rotund hollow]

worked like a charm, thanks 🙂

[true hound]

what does APB stand for?

[jagged vault]

All Pantheon Bosses

[true palm]

otherwise 112 would just skip zote

[jagged vault]

and radiance

[true palm]

and just p5 in general

[jagged vault]

there would be no reason to do p5 yeah

[true palm]

does godhome ending have to do gpz or do they get to skip it

[chrome bramble]

iirc they skip zote

[true hound]

cool thank you

[dry bison]

it's not much but it's something

[meager current]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[meager current]

but still good job

[dry bison]

ty! 19h 58m 48s tho xD

[meager current]

cuttin it close

[toxic osprey]

Hello, i am trying to use livesplits to time my runs of Hollow Knight, i have an issue that i would like some help with: My timer does not start when i enter a new game. The timer does turn green though when i start but nothing else

[jagged vault]

do you have any autosplits set up?

you need to configure the autosplitter yourself so it recognizes when you want it to split

if you have no triggers configured, the timer will not start

[toxic osprey]

okay i will make sure that it is, thanks blue

[short spire]

restart livesplit after the game is running

[toxic osprey]

yeah tried that and restarting pc, will make sure to try again if it doesnt work after i configure the autosplits

i have only one screen and am playing on windowed mode btw, this shouldnt affect anything right?

[digital jewel]

also try running it as administrator if none of that works

yeah that shouldn't affect anything

[true palm]

no it shouldnt

[toxic osprey]

ok great

[true palm]

if you were the guy from yesterday running in windowless so you can see livesplit, you can change the game to run in borderless windowed which is basically fullscreen and livesplit will still show on top

[meager plover]

i'm considering changing categories, but how do i change the splits?

[true palm]

just edit splits, and then hit save as instead of save is how i do it

[haughty fossil]

close splits

then start editing new ones

[meager plover]

but it takes years to do + you need to set up autosplitter again

[haughty fossil]

correct you do have to do that

[meager plover]

i dont' get it

[haughty fossil]

close splits closes the current splits file, showing you a new blank set of splits. you can then edit that blank set to make new splits, then save them to a file

[meager plover]

are there any splits to choose from? i wanna do any% so surely there's splits to start from

like a file or something

[true palm]

these are mine

i do deepnest instead of QGA

theres a starting point though

[haughty fossil]

we usually don't bother uploading splits for anything other than the 1xx categories because it really doesn't take much to set up apart from in those categories

[meager plover]

qga?

[true palm]

queens garden acid skip

[meager plover]

never heard of thos

e

[true palm]

you'll see top runners going to queens gardens

[meager plover]

you know what i'll stick to p5 for now lmao

[true palm]

beginner strat loses 40 seconds and goes to deepnest

[meager plover]

only 40?

[last inlet]

yeah it's actually not that huge

[haughty fossil]

i recommend watching a few runs before you decide to invest into any category

see if you like the idea of it at least

[true palm]

since the end goal is deepnest the time loss isnt huge

[meager plover]

yeah ik

[true palm]

i didnt bother learning qga since i already knew deepnest from low%

[haughty fossil]

unless like me you make dumb meme category ideas and have to run them to get added to cat extensions

[last inlet]

if you want to learn a full game category any% or all skills are typically the most beginner-friendly runs

[haughty fossil]

al2ba% coming as soon as i get knocked out of as tourney

[true palm]

is al2ba% killing the other aluba?

[last inlet]

yea

[haughty fossil]

yes, kill both alubas

[true palm]

thats so good

[last inlet]

so you need shade cloak for that

[haughty fossil]

no

shade soul

[last inlet]

wait it's one room?

i'm dum

[haughty fossil]

yes, the grub to the left of qg stag station is in the same room as white lady

[last inlet]

ah shit yeah

ok ignore me you very much don't need shade cloak

[haughty fossil]

on 1221 it's basically all skills but go back to wastes immediately, on cp it's a bit more complicated

[toxic osprey]

thank you guys, the splits now work after configuring the autosplitters. first time i did this so didnt realize that was needed heh

[true palm]

you're all good

[vague jolt]

Did you decide on GP stag instead of QS stag? I thought QS stag route seemed good but that's because the geo worked out perfectly

(Also I wasn't killing the unn aluba)

[haughty fossil]

i never timed anything, was planning on doing a big "lets route al2ba% gang" stream where i timed several different ideas

one of which involved killing watcher knights for geo

[vague jolt]

Killing watcher knights for geo :manicj1S:

[haughty fossil]

im 2mm away from making some horrible emotes in ms paint just to satisfy your need for my emotes flib

[vague jolt]

Horrible emotes in MS paint you mean Glorious emotes in MS paint

[haughty fossil]

no i mean horrible

[limpid ruin]

One solution to new splits is ask if others have some here on discord.
Another is to use the "save as" function when right-clicking livesplit, and use your old splits as a template of sorts for the new splits

[blissful anchor]

what is epogo?

[stiff delta]

Pogoing the cool explosion mushroom thingy in that one fungal wastes room to skip going around to get to mantis village

[blissful anchor]

ohh

thanks

[granite field]

when I joined I thought epogo was actually Eric Pogo
which would makes sense in the context of greenpath

Eric is the green vengefly used to backup the fireball skip

[grizzled maple]

its not like we dont reuse names all the time anyway

[serene coral]

who's the guy you can bait into dropping down to get pogo'd in the next room

does he have a name

[grizzled maple]

not that i know of

its really just eric and jennifer. and a lot of people call eric other names too

[haughty fossil]

that guy is a cool dude

[serene coral]

it makes me kinda sad that he'll never see his friend again

he can't jump

[haughty fossil]

bait his friend down too 🙂

[serene coral]

it's the humane thing

[dreamy bough]

Jamie runnin' Al3ba% when?

(Aluba%, aluba% nmms, and aluba% mms back to back)

[prime delta]

why are leaping husks called jennifer

[last inlet]

gonna be honest i dont actually know

i think it' bc alliteration with 'jumping husk' or smth

[haughty fossil]

because it's jennifer

[last inlet]

there's probably another/better reason

[haughty fossil]

do not question the enlightened ones

[prime delta]

to question is a moral imperative

[last inlet]

doesn't exist, all grubs that are seen should be saved

ok.

[stuck raptor]

Jennifer history: A long long time ago when I was doing a run, I complained about the "jumper" enemies, specifically the one before Gruz mommy's room. This was Thorn warp era, so I needed that enemy to hit me thru the transition. And they didn't always cooperate. RiskyCB misheard this as "Jennifer" instead of "jumper". and so from then on, I only called them Jennifer, and it kinda just stuck.

[stiff delta]

whacky

[haughty fossil]

fire is wrong 😤

[prime delta]

excellent

[dreamy bough]

oh also on the topic of naming things, the name of the right maggot next to failed champion entrance is 11 soul

:)

[digital jewel]

wow new lore just dropped

[haughty fossil]

if sedic's strats have taught me anything its that hitting things behind you is free time save

[last inlet]

wouldnt it theoretically be slightly faster bc kb from hitting grub

obviously you need like an ultra-precise turnaround to actually save any time

[haughty fossil]

that's not too horrible really

[last inlet]

actually i guess you just input straight after nail

btw if you didnt see the strat we're talking about with hitting things behind you it's this #any-percent-nmg message

that specific one's slower tho

[dreamy bough]

slower than?

[last inlet]

you need the mossy boi to wake up so it's faster to just fireball skip

if you did no spells it'd be faster than going around (although maybe not faster than the backup husk)

[dreamy bough]

Sedic measured it to be faster than 2 fireballs

[last inlet]

but not one?

[dreamy bough]

yeah

[last inlet]

ah ok

[dreamy bough]

one fireball's pretty tight tho

[last inlet]

so theoretically fireball skip is still the best

true

not sure how tight the backslashes are

if they're easier to get than 1fb then it could be worth

[short spire]

they're literally physics frame perfect

[last inlet]

that being said this is really small timesave

ok then nvm

[dull lion]

That looks so clean

[true hound]

i noticed during some streams attempting p5 hitless, there was a program that seemed to be counting the hits you took and was a timer. does anyone know what this is?

[fair lagoon]

question for all you speedrunner types. If I was to, say, go for etv Low% to get a time for that up on the board, what would be the rules necessary to accept it? All done in one sitting? Unmodded game, even if I intended not to use the mods? Livesplit required? I assume taking breaks and coming back then posting the ingame time when all's said and done doesn't cut it.

[neon island]

low% runs of HK are not that long actually

[prime delta]

the in-game timer is known to be faulty, so it can't be used

[digital jewel]

handily there are rules written on speedrun.com that answer a lot of these questions

[formal bough]

wait etv? as in low% godhome

[tardy sable]

don't think there are people that have done etv low% lol

[formal bough]

or is that te

[fair lagoon]

Yes, godhome ending, 47%

[formal bough]

I mean no essence farming for godhome ending so

shouldn't be that long

[prime delta]

you need void heart for godhome ending don't you

[tardy sable]

at least there is not a board for it

[hearty adder]

If you click "View rules" on speedrun.com's hollow knight page, it will tell you both the rules of the selected category and the rules of the game in general

[prime delta]

oh wait I guess you'd fight the dream bosses

[formal bough]

you have to kill dream warriors and dream bosses are free

you do need void heart for p5 yeah, that is how my first steel soul 112% died (I was overcharmed jonies memeing in birthplace because I couldn't get into p5 yet)

[fair lagoon]

basically, the main reason I'm asking this is I'm mild scared P5 gonna take a few tries and if I wanted an actually postable time, I'll need to nail it one shot

so, is a break out of the question by the rules

[short spire]

there wouldn't be a category for low% GE unless at least a couple other people run it too just fyi

a break is fine if you leave the timer running

[formal bough]

you can leave the game running and recording just no timer break

[short spire]

you can't pause the timer or stop the recording

[fair lagoon]

Understood. In this case, better not do the run til I'm certain I can do P5 relatively consistently on command

[hearty adder]

Submission rules in https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/

you can do it either way if you want to

nobody's gonna judge you if you can't do it all in one go, P5 is hard

[fair lagoon]

I'm mainly doing it for the memes. The idea started as "I wanna do P5 low%" so I asked Ins0mn who basically said "lol just do etv low% nobody's ever done that yet"

So now here I am, theorycrafting how I'd do that. We'll see.

[hearty adder]

if you need help with routing and such, I'm sure the people here will be able to give you advice

you can also see the other speedrunning channels to check on their info, even if you can't write on them

[fair lagoon]

I may not, having a time at all just so it's up there is kinda the goal. I'm not doing this for a competitive time so much as just to be able to say "hey, a run exists of that"

I don't even know if P5 with minimal equipment's going to be easy enough to knock out first try in a run, so it may not happen at all

[granite field]

Good luck for this!

[tardy sable]

it's like p5 ab, but you have dream wielder + grimm child, and extra mask, no shade soul/ddark or shriek and no soul restriction

it just sounds miserable

[granite field]

And no nail arts

which are usually very cool for AB runs

[thorn jasper]

have you done p5 all bindings? I believe that's easier

[formal bough]

you have grimmchild and 3 hits of soul so definately this low% is ez compared to all bindings

(5 nail damage instead of 11 yikes)

[weary root]

yeah the extra soul/ 1 health is nice especially vs double damage enemies

very reliant on spells

[neon island]

Yeah?

[thorn jasper]

I would be bothered

[neon island]

Oh, I am an idiot 🥴

[autumn quest]

i feel bad because this is probably a common question but idk how to find a solution
i tried downpatching to 1.2.2.1, started a new file and after the poem at the beginning, it's just a black screen, does anyone know what i should do

[timid edge]

does anyone have any tips for running cp? i cant switch to 1221 cause im on xbox.

[tardy sable]

depending on category there are usually route changes that you need to be aware of

[formal bough]

the pins have routes for cp

[haughty fossil]

there's a terrible guide made by a massive dumb idiot on speedrun. com

[timid edge]

oop-

[formal bough]

also known as jamie

the absolute cutie

[slim geyser]

Yeah I heard they aren't even top 10 in the category smh

[formal bough]

10/10 cutieness

[serene coral]

someone named magic amy or something made a powerpoint right

[haughty fossil]

OK sabi that cuts deep

[slim geyser]

hey I tried to say you were a great runner and you hit me with that so

[haughty fossil]

(I'm coming back to any% after tourney I swear)

[timid edge]

i was thinking of running any% and true ending

[haughty fossil]

any% CP there is a fairly in depth guide for current patch (still needs to be remade though)

[slim geyser]

(her time is way better that something i could get i swear)

[quiet saddle]

Question: How come the All Glitches category seems to have so few runners?

[haughty fossil]

te I believe route should be the same

[quiet saddle]

I assumed people would be interested in the category that would be the absolute fastest run of the game

[serene coral]

people run what they wanna run

it's like applejacks

[haughty fossil]

all glitches usually isn't as fun to run because it breaks the game massively

[serene coral]

we eat what we like

[hearty adder]

NMMS > AG imo

[weary root]

any% AG is like 90% menuing

[haughty fossil]

no main menu storage is better but still massively breaking

[timid edge]

alright thank you so much! could you dm me a link to the video? just wondering but if not its fine.

[haughty fossil]

the guide is in the guides section on speedrun.com, on mobile so can't link it to you rn

[timid edge]

oh.

rip.

[stuck raptor]

NMG is also much closer to people's casual playthrough, so it's much easier to get into. And similar to what's familiar

[slim geyser]

I do think that it's at least under-experimented with. The fact that most runners haven't ever tried most major glitches is a little wack.

[hearty adder]

I can get it for you if you can't do it yourself right now

[tardy sable]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/gq0g3
got you fam

[hearty adder]

oop, there you go lol

[slim geyser]

it does take a lot of time and energy to learn some of these glitches tho so i understand why people don't

[hearty adder]

Also afaik info on glitches and glitched runs isn't as widespread/easily available as nmg

[slim geyser]

^ that's true

[limpid ruin]

It's also that whole downpatching to an even worse running version of the game

[slim geyser]

the most recent guide for glitched categories is one from like 2018 for NMMS

not even relevant in its own category

let along all-glitches

[granite field]

I've never seen this yet. Have you tried some things to solve that already?

[limpid ruin]

And there not being many guides at all makes it super hard to pick up

[haughty fossil]

I'd run nmms if it ran

but alas

[formal bough]

the afaik premier glitched runner (krythom) says that AG isn't fun but NMMS is

[weary root]

If you wanna learn glitched cat's you go and ask way too many questions in #any-percent

[hearty adder]

Is the performance of patches lower than 1221 even worse than 1221, or is it somewhat the same?

[haughty fossil]

what do you think :)

[autumn quest]

I just tried to delete registry like it says on the speedrun.com guide but all that did was reset my settings

Still goes to a black screen

[hearty adder]

I think my gpu wouldn't like it

[thorn jasper]

now that the registry is cleared, try rebooting the pc? idk

[haughty fossil]

are you sure it downloaded the whole depot?

[hearty adder]

Usually getting a black screen after the poem means it didn't finish downloading

[limpid ruin]

If it still doesn't work after a reboot I'd just recommend a full redownload/install

[autumn quest]

ah, i mean what could i have done that would have interrupted it?

or is it just like a bug and i need to try again

[limpid ruin]

Eh hard to say. Couldve just been a one time glitch or something for example

[autumn quest]

wait actually it might be computer storage

[granite field]

Is this totally a black screen or do you hear some sounds/have an animated logo on the corner?

[autumn quest]

totally black screen

after the poem

everything before that is fine tho

[limpid ruin]

That sounds super weird ngl

Try updating your graphics drivers?

[autumn quest]

Theyre latest

I honestly think its probably that it didnt finish downloading

I barely have storage left on my c drive so it probably just stopped

Didnt give me a warning or anything but i assume that's what happened

[granite field]

the depot download takes a while to be finished so maybe you interrupted it too early ? like you thought it was finished but, plot twist, it wasn't

[autumn quest]

i never interrupted it, steam just closed on its own after a while and i thought "okay guess its done"

[granite field]

oh okay

[timid edge]

Dumb question. Can you stream the game from your tv to a laptop? If so it will make streaming it a ton easier.

[tardy sable]

capture card?

[thorn jasper]

capture card might work for that?

[stiff delta]

capture card

[timid edge]

No. I have a smart tv.

[stiff delta]

sounds pretty damn stupid if a capture card wouldn’t work

[timid edge]

I can stream the game from my xbox to my laptop with my smart tv.

I dont mean a capture card

[stiff delta]

Neat

It sounds like you can do it though

Can you rephrase the question?

[timid edge]

How the hell am i suppose to rephrase that- i literally said what i meant-

[thorn jasper]

if the question is "am I allowed to?", the answer is yes, as long as everything is recorded

[thorn jasper]

'can' has two meanings

[twin swallow]

it sounded like you asked a question, and then proceeded to answer your own question (if it was physically possible)

[stiff delta]

^

[hearty adder]

If the game displays in your computer then you can probably do either a window or display capture with obs

[granite field]

It's also allowed to record with a camera/phone pointed at a screen for example. As long as you have the entire screen and audio (ig you don't need it, but just saying)

[timid edge]

Thanks lol

Tbh that was a dumb question-

[hearty adder]

Nah that's fine

[limpid ruin]

Also, pls watch your tone when asking for help and people attempt to give that help

[hearty adder]

It's always good to ask if you're having doubts, even if the answer seems simple

[still rock]

yes finnally got debugmod working had to redownpatch

[hallow grove]

hey I'm having trouble with my livesplits not working

[tardy sable]

what's not working

[hallow grove]

the timer won't start when I have hollow knight open

[tardy sable]

is the autosplitter set to "Activated"?

[limpid ruin]

And do you have at least one autosplit entry added?

[hallow grove]

yes

[limpid ruin]

Hm, try restarting livesplit?

[tardy sable]

since you said "when I have hollow knight open" did you try to start a new file?

or did you just sit on menu/popped into an existing one

[hallow grove]

I can't even manually start the timer

[limpid ruin]

Yea, that can happen if livesplit crashes, doesn't have any autosplits added, also if you're using the new beta the autosplitter isnt supported for that

[hallow grove]

I'm just trying to use it on 1.2.2.1 and I tried on current patch and it didn't work

The timer seems to work but it won't show it stays gray when I have hollow knight open but when it's closed it runs perfectly fine

[limpid ruin]

Is it set to compare to realtime or game time?

[hallow grove]

game time

[autumn quest]

okay i fixed the problem i had earlier, for some reason i can't go off of fullscreen though, it wont let me hover over the fullscreen option and change it

[limpid ruin]

Oh that's just debug for some weird reason 🥴
If you press i think alt+enter that should switch the game between windowed and fullscreen

[autumn quest]

ah ok yeah that worked thx!

[thorn jasper]

This isn't hk meme

[neon island]

?

[leaden robin]

This is a serious question

[thorn jasper]

I gave a serious answer

[leaden robin]

But is it a yes or no?

[thorn jasper]

No

[stray kestrel]

which registry file do i delete so that i dont have to select between regular and steel soul and it just starts the game upon selecting a file

[jagged vault]

does anyone know how subsplits work?

like, how do i set them up?

[exotic thunder]

subsplits are a different thing in the layouts editor

[stray kestrel]

which one in there so i dont have to reset all my settings

[exotic thunder]

this is how you name the splits for them to be subsplits

fury and equip fury will be subsplits of VS

[jagged vault]

so the ones with the {brackets} become the subsplits of fury?

[jagged vault]

and fury needs the little - in front of it

oooh, i see! that makes sense

ty!

[exotic thunder]

bracket is the final subsplit

it doesnt need a seperate name but you can if you want

[jagged vault]

oh, so that's when it splits the main one

and how is that set up in the autosplitter?

for something like 112 i need ordered splits for the pantheon part

actually it might just be better to just yoink a preexisting split file

do you by any chance have one from when you ran 112?

[exotic thunder]

yes do that lol

pinned in 1xx

[jagged vault]

👍

[exotic thunder]

oh idk tbh i just always delete the whole folder lol

[stray kestrel]

yea that's probably the easiest

[exotic thunder]

you can tell what some of them are maybe avoid the keybindings ones n stuff

[stray kestrel]

the problem is, some of them are named like this

when switching versions, is it one of these that is the one that actually needs to be deleted?

or is it actually the binds that need to be reset

[exotic thunder]

idk

[stable rain]

Is this "NMG" for rando runs? It keeps happening to me. If I pogo that guy it just pauses my game and I have to unpause so there I just paused unpaused manually.

Well I know rando runs are not on the leaderboards (yet?) but would it be accepted y'know.

[summer umbra]

wait r we allowed to do the inventory scream boss skip glitch in runs

cos i never c any1 do it dey jus get hit instead

[meager current]

im pretty sure using inventory to do it is not nmg

[summer umbra]

im gon feel like a fool for asking what nmg means

what does nmg means

[meager current]

no major glitches

[summer umbra]

den y does no1 do it in p5 speedruns

[stable rain]

Which glitches are major or not are chosen (usually voted) by the community

[summer umbra]

is it jus faster to get hit?

[meager current]

because its major 🥴

[summer umbra]

ohhh ok

[stable rain]

You can scream skip bosses just fine (Probably Collector for example), but I don't know about using inventory to do it

[summer umbra]

press I as dey scream

[meager current]

i thought it gives inv storage

[summer umbra]

u can kill collector sm quick if u do it

and white defender

and grimm

and dung

n sum others

[stable rain]

I don't think opening inventory during screams is NMG

Getting hit as they start their scream to not get stunned is though

[ionic cargo]

it gives you early control while the boss is still screaming

[summer umbra]

doesnt work for pv cos u cant hit him

[stable rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrtvJc5CnNo&feature=emb_title This is allowed

I don't think using your inventory is but I could be wrong

[summer umbra]

dat looks quicker das prolly y

[stable rain]

#speedrunning message

The convo explains it there

[meager current]

inventory storage

[crystal relic]

What patch is this?

Oops sorry for ping

If it works on current patch then ima use it (but not for speedrunning)

[true palm]

its current patch

hence why its in godhome

scream skipping by taking damage as the boss starts their scream is allowed. The most common one is dashing into THK's final scream

the problem with the inventory is it gives inventory storage, a glitch that gives you the ability to move while having your inventory open, which can lead into other glitches

[meager current]

imagine having dash tho

[true palm]

you can scream skip on low%

but its hard

you have to take a direct angle at the right time

[crystal relic]

im

I need more sleep

[jagged vault]

using inventory for Scream skip is banned if the act of opening your inventory is what gives you control back

so you can technically inventory drop into a boss as long as you close your inventory before you get hit (or rather before the scream takes away your control, the inventory cannot be what gives control back)

if you do it too late you invalidate your run

not worth doing

besides, other methods of scream skips are just as easy and fully nmg

[meager current]

not scream skipping is also nmg

[true palm]

not scream skipping is also super slow

k let me clarify, its worth the time save

[meager current]

i was joking

[true palm]

i dont have time for jokes, because i scream skip

its my main category

[meager current]

ye

[true palm]

sorry i didnt even see it

im tired

its 4 am where i live

[ionic cargo]

mood

[true palm]

no sadly i think i might be human

[meager current]

alprechim when will you get speedrunner role so you can see the cute ducks

ah

[ionic cargo]

what???

[meager current]

ducks.

9th

im last place on 4ms board

my runs have not been verified either lol

[ionic cargo]

ah yes, water pigeons

[meager current]

ye

yes

ducks

you know its funny when the main motivation for having a run verified is ducks

[forest latch]

Ducks™️

[meager current]

ducks™️

[knotty vigil]

ducks

[steady lynx]

Running any% on console

I can't do QGA

[meager current]

also ye i saw the new wr

fireball skip skip is better

[ionic cargo]

i just dont want to learn fireball skip

[tranquil solstice]

hey i have a question

[true palm]

if you find your self unable to perform fireball skips like myself, just use claw grip

[normal aspen]

What's the problem gad9

[meager current]

theres a different fireball skip

that you can skip using a mosscreep

and its badass

[tranquil solstice]

i want to do speedrun but i can't put the livesplit on top of the screen or appear for me to start the timer i need to pause click it start and go back to the game is it really?

[true palm]

run the game on windowed borderless

and then check always on top

[tranquil solstice]

how can i do ths?

[fair island]

The timer should start by itself

[tranquil solstice]

how ?

[true palm]

In Steam, go to your Library
Right Click on the game title
Select Properties
Click Set Launch Options...
Paste the following line into the provided text box
-popupwindow
Click OK, then Close.

[tranquil solstice]

oh thks

[true palm]

then check that box in layout settings

[tranquil solstice]

ok

[fair island]

Make sure the game is open and then Right click on live split -> click on edit splits -> put the game name on the top bar and then click activate

[true palm]

your timer should now stay on top of hollow knight

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/cg9vl heres the livesplit guide

that will teach you how to setup splits

that way you can put literally whatever you want in livesplit for any category and make it look like whatever

[tranquil solstice]

I was lazy it's very complicated but thanks for the help

[steady lynx]

Also epogo is easier and we get that one free goam cycle
Other than that console sucks for running

[tranquil solstice]

and how can i know it worked?

[true palm]

if you alt + tab does the game minimize?

[tranquil solstice]

wait

yeah

[true palm]

oh i forgot, change it to windowed mode, and then relaunch it

it should be like fullscreen but if you alt tab it wont minimize

[tranquil solstice]

yes but I still have to do this to start counting

[tranquil solstice]

how i do?

[true palm]

oh i thought you were talking about making it go on one screen?

so that way you can have timer and hk on the same monitor

if you just want livesplit running follow the speedrun.com guide

[tranquil solstice]

hm

[true palm]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/cg9vl

[tranquil solstice]

thkx

[meager current]

i hate 4ms goam room

the fly dies like always

[true palm]

4ms is a cursed category

[meager current]

nah

its blessed

[summer umbra]

any1 kno the youngest person w an any% wr

[fair island]

use shade to pogo

[summer umbra]

the youngest person to hold one

[meager current]

[fair island]

-5 years old

[limpid ruin]

Nowok, no

[jagged vault]

Nowok there is only one wr holder in any% that’s how WRs work

[true palm]

i think i landed the new cp fireball skip when it was discovered like 1/5 tries

[summer umbra]

no i mean like-