and yeah, TE is really cool
#speedrunning
old sphinx
Not considering low% TE as a main category 
frigid rapids
and then hitless with one hand low% godhome ending is probably harder
we can keep going for a long time lol
true palm
fair enough
idk i just like the concept of a category where i can feel proud just to finish a run, which is what low% was to me
frigid rapids
yeah so TE should be ideal for you
frigid rapids
it's really rewarding to finish your first runs, and progress can be quick once you get the hang of everything
frigid rapids
also it feels like its the right length
expect your runs to be way longer than the better times tho
grizzled maple
low% skips are so much worse than low% fights
there's more of them and if you mess up at all you're hecked
true palm
idk i struggled with wk the longest
grizzled maple
ie low% cpeaks
frigid rapids
i like 40-50m runs
tbh, Any% NMG runs are at least 40minutes RTA, loadless timers tend to warp our perception a little bit
true palm
best part of the category tbh
frigid rapids
like yeah, it might "only" be 30 something minutes of execution, but in terms of mental focus, it's still 40 something
serene coral
i was including any% nmg in that
true palm
@serene coral anyways id wait for RhinoFeeders guide that hes making for low% before learning it
frigid rapids
but then, in the All Skills tournament, i literally wait 10 years between rooms and it really allows me to ponder life
mighty rain
1h 18s 54, Will be up loading the run soon
Kinda salty it wasnt sub hour
true palm
@mighty rain what category?
mighty rain
Any%nmg current
true palm
gj, i dont have the strength to run cp
digital jewel
it's fine we have context for it
frigid rapids
"cp" is the abbreviation commonly used through the whole community, so dw, there's no possibility it can get misunderstood here (tho it obviously has its horrific other meaning)
true palm
sorry im just used to using it for crystal peaks and current patch
leaden python
we usually use cpeaks or just peaks for crystal peaks
grizzled maple
cp isn't even just a hk thing. most speed communities use it to mean current patch
leaden python
But our favorite abbreviation in this game is, undoubtedly, SS
digital jewel
🥴 yeah unfortunate
short spire
you can probably find a horrific meaning for basically any abbreviation you can come up with
digital jewel
Actually Xenophobic 2 Uruguayans
thorn jasper
UWU = Uwus Will Uwu
meager current
But our favorite abbreviation in this game is, undoubtedly, SS
team cherry loves the ss acronym
thorn jasper
we have a whole list somewhere
leaden python
stalwart shell 
meager current
silk of the song
mighty rain
Yeah but no one remember that
stone laurel
soul sanctum
dusk portal
Spore Shroom as well
meager current
soup soul
mighty rain
Stupid sote
digital jewel
I just realised the switch wr (48:17) is better than the ps4/xb1 wr (48:30) which is better than the ps5/xseries wr (53:31)
which is the completely opposite order
to what's fastest
cyan vortex
it's probably because too many fps prevent you from doing cp epogo
prime delta
ps5 less optimized because only six people in the world have one
cyan vortex
is the current gen console version capped at 120
idk it was just a random thought
stuck raptor
too many fps for epogo -> loses 5 minutes
cyan vortex
seems quite obvious to me tbh
leaden python
is ps5 version still locked at 60fps?
mighty rain
Anyone got a good guide to current patch explosion pogo?
low bramble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uztaN_toC_U&ab_channel=emray here's a great one
grizzled maple
if you have any questions about it i'm usually here
stone laurel
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/m7868pez yo beautiful mods, can i have runner role? 
digital jewel
nice pfp
mighty rain
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/m7868pez yo beautiful mods, can i have...
Contrats on role 
Who xero?
ionic sparrow
xero loves toilet paper lfg
steady lynx
Q, can you dreamnail on a coyote frame?
meager current
Q, can you dreamnail on a coyote frame?
i think thats how dreamnail drops work
dreamnail drops 
steady lynx
I thought they worked like inv drops where you have to open on the frame you walk off
plucky moss
meager current
but umm, back to the question gusten asked 🙂
steady lynx
Just wanna use more dnail drops because they look cooler than inventory
steady lynx
Coolness first, speed later
last inlet
-me, dying to underplat for the eighth time
steady lynx
My mindset isn't great but it works
mighty girder
is there some sort of secret to double aspid spike? I feel like i'm doing the same thing each time, but the results are wildly different
grizzled maple
which patch?
true palm
the trajectory changes on 1.2.2.1, pay attention to where the spike lands
grizzled maple
if it's 1221, this is where you want the spike to land. if it lands here but you didnt get the double, you were too early/late
you have to hit the spike before it falls literally at all. so jump up and immediately turn around hit it. it's very precise
mighty girder
yeah 1221
digital jewel
getting the right trajectory for 1221 is "simply" just hitting the spike as soon as possible after triggering it to fall down
true palm
wheres ax2us guide?
mighty girder
ok nice, I'll be sure to pay attention to that
digital jewel
stable rain
mkay, so the double spike kill on aspid arena, it's something that a lot of people have trouble with so i'm gonna do it real quick um just in real time to show what it looks like. there, so real quick the con-, the lineup that i use, which is pretty consistent, is if you look on this platform i'm standing on there's a gate on the background of it. there's four little poles sticking up out of it. what you wanna do is line up your knight so ri-, it's not incredibly precise, but roughly so the middle of the knight is lined up with that last pole on the left there. so from here, when you see the aspid spawn in the background, you're going to jump and hold left at the same time. you're gonna do a maximum height jump which means you're not gonna let go of your jump button the entire time, then as soon as you hit that platform over there you're immediately gonna jump and turn back to the right for the, the uh spike hit so it kinda looks like, like that. so to do it again and just notice my positioning and stuff a little bit. there, and that's pretty consistent, i get that, i'd say about ninety five percent of the time and if i don't get it, it's usually because of a mistake that i made with my inputs or something. so hope that helps and let me know if you have any questions
haughty fossil
isn't that rhino's tutorial though
stable rain
Oh
Lmao
Maybe
Okay, so quick explanation on how to get the double spike kill on the aspid arena uh consistency on one point two point two point one. So basically you wanna uh, you wanna kill this first guy and then wait on this little platform here until you see the second wave of aspids spawn. And you wanna react to the spawn so as soon as you see them pop up, you wanna jump on top of the other platform, and then instantly jump off of the other platform, up to the spike, and hit the spike as soon as you're in range of the spike. Um, you have to hit the spike, uh, really soon after activating it, or it won't have the correct trajectory to hit both of the uh, aspids. It's fairly precise, but, uh, the aci. the aspid spawn positions themselves don't matter, it's all about getting the hit on the spike at the correct time. I'll. I'll show you in a second. So, basically. You wanna do that. Heh, you'll know you done it right when you see the spike be here, all the way on the right here. Uh, if it's like, around here, or you can't see it properly, then you were just too slow with your jump up there. But, it requires a bit of practice, but, you can actually get it fairly consistently after. After you get decent at it, but, yeah, that's, that's really all there is to the trick.
grizzled maple
there is that more lenient top platform version
digital jewel
for top plat
- stand at the leftmost fence post
- do a full jump left as soon as you see an aspid spawn
- buffer a jump from the left platform
- focus on the spike after you jump and try to hit it right asap
your nail hitbox extends further upwards than you might expect
mighty girder
I've been noticing that a bit
which part of the knight at the leftmost fence? like the middle or the right edge?
mighty girder
it seems to be making a difference, idk
yeah seems like I'm not hitting it early enough
plush loom
I'm going to start my first speedrun 
I'm setting up the timer and getting a downpatch
mighty girder
nice maxie, gl!
stray kestrel
what category?
plush loom
Any% NMG
stray kestrel
ooh fun fun
meager current
once you have finished any%, why not try low% TE 
knotty vigil
I just finished steel soul for my first time and got the speedrun 1 achievement and I’m really proud of myself
stark birch
once you have finished any%, why not try low% TE <:ax1uWide3:731614618211975268>
that's such a weird way to spell myla% 
meager current
i wasnt spelling that
last inlet
low% te is the best category
limpid ruin
yeah seems like I'm not hitting it early enough
yea. The issue when missing will 99% always be "did not hit spike early enough", the devil is in the details tho
meager current
what
digital jewel
this is one of the reasons why I prefer top platform. it's easy to diagnose your issue
mighty girder
yea. The issue when missing will 99% always be "did not hit spike early enough",...
yeah I'm having trouble determining if my jump is late or if my swing is late.... or both lol
digital jewel
so long as you're buffering the 2nd jump, neither of your jumps should be late
the aspids stay in the spike trajectory for a relatively long amount of time, which is why you can just react to them appearing and be fast enough
the reason why the timing on the 2nd jump matters a lot is because once you land on the left platform the spike will begin to fall
so you're on a timer to hit it high enough
grizzled maple
also why knowing the nail hitbox matters. you need to swing as soon as you can physically hit it
mighty girder
I'm actually finding the position on the upper platform is helping a lot
starting further right, I trigger the falling spike later
yeah like, I was lining up with the knight on the left edge when it's more like on the right side of the left fence post
mighty rain
Had time so i uploaded my run, waiting for it to be moderated
Im actually feeling so proud about myself 
meager current
that takes a while
mighty girder
medium consistency 
meager current
they watch the thing at 1fps so they cant miss anything, so expect it to be verified in a week
hasty basin
hi im trying to learn 106 is there a guide just for colo?
grizzled maple
not yet
it's on my list soon™ and i'll cover both 106 and 112
i just recommend watching them carefully and it know its scary but overcharm actually makes them much easier since your soul management and positioning will always be the same if you do
amber lotus
Finished my casual playthrough, time to download this practice mod and start learning
hasty basin
okay thanks, also im having trouble doing failed champion consistently, like im not sure how to position myself during the first phase when diving
grizzled maple
the first dive is consistent and you just get on top of him as he spawns, but the rest are just practice and knowing your openings. if you had a recording I could probably help with real input
if you want to be really safe you can just wait on him to jump backwards since that locks him to the ground. he can only do 3 of one kind of attack in a row. So if he has jumped backwards and done 3 slams, you know he's going over you next time etc
hasty basin
oh thank you that helps
midnight swallow
Hi does anyone know how to cancel fall stagger by opening ur inventory?
snow dome
On current patch it isn't possible to open your inventory midair. You will need to down patch to 1221 to do that.
midnight swallow
ohh thanks
pliant plinth
Im gonna try an any% speedrun for my first time, what time should i go for
forest latch
Tbh?
Just go for any time you want
last inlet
depends how much practice you've done
forest latch
I mean
pliant plinth
Absolutely none so far
forest latch
First runs kinda don't matter
last inlet
yeah
forest latch
Hell, I got a 24 minute PB compared to my first run
pliant plinth
I would like a time frame for how long a speedrun should be though, so i can have a goal to reach
last inlet
going in blind you'll probably be in the area of 2 hours if you follow a route
pliant plinth
Woah thats fast
last inlet
that being said it's very possible you'll be faster or slower
yeah first run time is a bit irrelevant
(also it depends a lot on how long you spend on watcher knights)
that tends to be the point where first runs get stuck
forest latch
True
Spent like 20 minutes on WK on my first run
Got those minutes back on my second run
strong vessel
On my first run, I went and got Desolate Dive and Monarch Wings so I could get Quick Slash and Shade Cloak to make WK easier
Don't feel like you have to stick to a route if it's difficult
And I got nail 2 lol
snow dome
I got D-Dark and ended up with a time of about 1:30 on my first attempt.
Genuinely nobody here can tell you
last inlet
if you just want a decent run you can go get shade soul, dive, ddark, etc
going super fast is not even close to required, especially for a beginner runner
sinful scarab
has anyone ever done cdashless uumuu?
last inlet
i mean you cant get to uumuu without either c-dash or ismas i think
last inlet
maybe you could do the basin shade skip? idk if wings are enough to avoid getting cheart or ismas
it'd definitely be a tight jump in archives if you can do that
digital jewel
you can do it with sharp shadow, spell twister and dream gate to get out I think
stark birch
wings are required to get to isma's in the first place without cdash
digital jewel
not that that's practical
stiff delta
low% doesnt get dash
last inlet
good point
stark birch
pretty sure low% cdashless is the same as regular cdashless anyway since you hard need isma's to get to uumuu and to do the mag skip you need a bunch of equipment
sinful scarab
well cdash is 2%
so wings + ismas would be 4%
last inlet
yeah true
sinful scarab
so you'd be above 11% anyways
stark birch
to be clear, low% would be a lower % than low-cdash; but assuming you start with the stipulation that you can't get cdash, I'm pretty sure outside of shaman stone you get the "low%" for cdashless anyway
last inlet
in conclusion no cdash no isma any% is a bad idea
digital jewel
it'd be 19% I think?
last inlet
who would have guessed
sinful scarab
the percent breakdown is fascinating
digital jewel
17 - shaman - gruz - cdash + nail1 + broken vessel + wings + ismas
sinful scarab
I don't think dreamgate is a %
sharp shadow spell twister would bring to at least 2% though so you'd be at 11% again
digital jewel
we're talking about using ismas for monomon. the sharp shadow + dreamgate thing would be slower and more %
sinful scarab
yeah I was just responding to the earlier thing about sharp shadow + dreamgate
sorry
haughty fossil
bestgirl% route does need to either pick up spell Twister or kill dung defender to be run viable, because the mag skip is far from that
theoretically using DD route you can actually avoid wings using a shade skip in the room past the spike tunnel
digital jewel
oh yea you skip wings in that
and therefore nail1 too
that's 3% -> 1%
so low% no cdash could be the same % as any%?
last inlet
that sounds painful
sinful scarab
a question: with the sharp shadow + spell twister + dreamgate thing that got mentioned - how does that enter right side of fog canyon?
sinful scarab
ohhh
digital jewel
you can also do the fog canyon acid skip with dash + wings
last inlet
we rarely see someone forget about the shade gate, it's normally 'how do you kill uumuu without shade dash'
since the acid route isn't used much outside of speedruns i dont think
(as in most casual runs use the shade gate)
tired hatch
I asked in help this in help but was told to ask here instead:
Is there a more up to date list of possible skips in the randomizer than what is at the bottom of the randomizer 3 guide google doc? The helper log says there are a couple of checks in logic that I can't figure out how to get to with what I have and either aren't listed in the doc or require things I don't yet have.
tired hatch
do ?rank randomizer racer and ask in the rando channel
huh? whats ?rank randomizer racer
digital jewel
?rank randomizer racer
sick ravenBOT
@digital jewel, you joined Randomizer Racer.
tired hatch
?rank randomizer racer
sick ravenBOT
@tired hatch, you joined Randomizer Racer.
forest latch
Just do the command again iirc
sick ravenBOT
@digital jewel, you left Randomizer Racer.
strong vessel
so low% no cdash could be the same % as any%?
Wouldn't it be 15%?
11% + cloak, Hornet, Isma's, and Dung Defender
Wait, no, I can't count
I forgot that the movement abilities give 2%
Wait yes
It's 9% plus that
Because no c-dash
So it is 15% after all
strong vessel
so low% no cdash could be the same % as any%?
And I thought that any% got 16% though
digital jewel
Yeah you're right it does
I just fucked that maths up
Low% no cdash would be 15%
strong vessel
I find it amazing that you can get Isma's without c-dash at all
digital jewel
It's only one part that's awkward so long as you kill dung defender
And I don't remember that one shade skip being too bad
strong vessel
I find all shade skips except the ones at Salubra bad
Though I've never tried any other one
But the BV one looks really hard
mild moon
The Dung Defender route also requires Dashmaster.
The shade skip is pretty bad.
Significantly worse than the one to get wings, at least
digital jewel
Someone did the spike tunnel without it in an all skills race last week
Oh nvm you need it for the 1st acid pool right?
mild moon
I don't know. It would be very tight without it, and only two fireballs.
strong vessel
What's it for?
digital jewel
I did that skip sequence only once when you came up with it so I forgot how bad it is
strong vessel
Is the shade skip for the second pool
digital jewel
Lol
frosty briar
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtsyScaryChipmunkMVGame-ccTwgMl3y2hJoQvG anyone knows what happened there? lol
normal aspen
Bad float corner
It happens when you have a specific sub pixel alignment and hit a corner. Getting hit in that state would have given bad float
haughty fossil
bad float is when you keep the knockback and lack of gravity from getting hit, making you float around
one of the corners in kp is used for bad float in aluba% nmms
frosty briar
wow lol is that allowed in NMG?
haughty fossil
no
frosty briar
so if I got hit there I should have reset
haughty fossil
i mean yeah you can't do much in bad float unless you know what you're doing or get hit again
normal aspen
you can just open ionventory or do just about anything and it will cancel bad float\t
haughty fossil
unless you know what you're doing
insurance clause
mighty girder
heyooo another question for you all
how did I not get a one cycle in this clip? was i too slow? https://clips.twitch.tv/SlipperyLaconicKiwiTBCheesePull-DGJAtrUmbzuW4qs-
it was just one fireball to kill in the second cycle. so I just missed one double somewhere
limpid ruin
I actually think the second shade soul didn't double?
I'm just on mobile tho, but I only heard and saw one tick in spite of the pushback
So either that, or the nail dmg cycle into last two was just too late, which is what I think is the most usual problem
mighty girder
I'm kinda getting way too many of these that look perfect but don't work lol
is there any rng? can they just sometimes not double for no reason?
leaden python
I think Uumuu ended vulnerable phase when your shade soul was about to hit the second double. In other words, your damage rotation was a bit slow
your first nail hit was kinda late, could've started rotation earlier
mighty girder
thought that might have been it
I've also found that you can also be too fast it seems, is that accurate? the 4th nail hit not hitting uumuu into the wall
or is that a positioning thing
leaden python
no-no, you are very correct about it
in case when you know you're too fast, delay your final nail hit a little bit
mighty girder
gotcha
at this point I really wish the save states would work mid fight because I am so sick of doing the first 3 attacks lol
short spire
I've also found that you can also be too fast it seems, is that accurate? the 4t...
to be pedantic the 4th hit actually needs to hit uumuu out of the wall (hitbox)
the wall is only like a 1 pixel line
mighty girder
ok so that 4th one needs to hit uumuu out? what if, for example, uumuu moves out of bounds between the 4th nail and the shade soul
I think I've had that happen a few times, or it's the first shade soul that does it
short spire
you definitely want uumuu to be unstuck from the wall before the last nail hit
mighty girder
ok I think I'm gettin it
leaden python
yeah if Uumuu goesn't unstuck before your shade soul hits, you will likely not get a double on the first spell after nail hits
mighty girder
ok I think I'm gettin it
and by this I mean I understand where I'm failing now. Execution still needs work lol
leaden python
understanding where you're failing is 88% of getting it down
random oak
alright guys.... it's me again lol is there a reason why i don't have save state ability in debug menu for 1.2.2.1?
fair island
Did you put a binding for it?
random oak
I don't have an option for it
oh okay slo
let me try that.
okay cool. Yeah looks like I just had an older one. Thanks guys.
knotty vigil
What is the public beta for?
Simo made an announcement and I remember seeing my Steam mention this; I am still sorta lost on what it is for.
fair island
Testing for bugs cuz team cherry wants to update the unity version the game uses
knotty vigil
Oh I see! Perhaps they can fix other bugs while they're at it?
Like lifebloods, other major glitches, etc.
fair island
Read the steam page they mentioned the bugs they wanna fix
knotty vigil
I see.
So if they fix these, will these become a new patch?
Like, we're on 1.4.3.2 now. Let's say they update it, would the new patch technically be 1.4.3.3 or higher?
normal aspen
14.3.3 already exists so prob 1.4.4.X
knotty vigil
I don't know why I'm excited about the numbers. It feels like a DLC is throwing out, although I definitely know that's not the case. 
serene coral
bigger number means more game
clear orchid
can anyone help why my downpatch isnt working
did the steam console thing where you downlaod the depot but whenever i run it its just current patch
normal aspen
Did you put in the steamappid.txt and stuff
normal aspen
did u put the correct game number in there
and added it to steam as a non steam game
clear orchid
forgot to put the txt file back in when i transferred the folder
my bad thanks for the help
normal aspen
o7
clear orchid
oh another thing is there a way to manually get the autosplitter
whenever i fill in hk in the title for splits says no autosplitter
snow dome
Did you type hollow knight or click it in the menu?
If you type it it doesn't detect it for some reason
clear orchid
i clicked it
clear orchid
ya its in program files
does it need to be on the same drive as hk
k nvm it had to be on the same drive
snow dome
I was going to say no, but if it worked it worked. 🙃
devout nymph
zinc cairn
What can i do so it doesn't split all the dreamers in TE all glitches just when i start in godhome?
jagged vault
hmm, maybe try checking Ordered Splits?
zinc cairn
i'll try, but this is weird. first time i was doing it it splitted all dreamers, now (2nd time) it just splitted lurien lol
Oh nvm i think i found the source of problem
flat spear
Anyone tried doing OneGrub%
fair island
idk but it would be pretty easy
flat spear
time to claim WR
fair island
cuz in the 4 mask shard route the first split is a grub
flat spear
Basically, OneGrub% would mean you have to free a grub and go back to Grubfather
fair island
so the people who did 4ms can just trim the video and it'll become one grub%
normal aspen
Sounds like a pretty terrible category ngl
flat spear
The run ends on frame Grubfather throws Geo
flat spear
Sounds like a pretty terrible category ngl
yes
meager current
Sounds like a pretty terrible category ngl
because it is
flat spear
that is the point
ionic cargo
it would be less than 5 minutes
ionic cargo
we found an new beginner speedrun, move over all skills
normal aspen
It would be under 2
flat spear
It would be under 2
ye
fair island
It would be under 2
it can't be
meager current
itll definitely be under 3, but probably not 2
flat spear
depends
meager current
i think the fastest grub to go for would be vengefly pogo grub?
fair island
yes that's the closest
ionic cargo
heavily rng based
meager current
because that would just be mothwingcloak% (doesnt exist but yk)
and we dont have autosplits for hornet saying shaw
haughty fossil
because that would just be mothwingcloak% (doesnt exist but yk)
aluba% nmg erasure
meager current
aluba% nmg erasure
haughty fossil
aluba% exists because of nmms, but became a slightly funny meme run for nmg
i wish you good luck in your goals
ionic cargo
lmao
dreamy bough
oh, so great hopper% but less interesting v:
haughty fossil
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
dreamy bough
i have issues using livesplit to test segments with debug mod on (on 1221). loadless time simply never increments. does anyone know why/ how to fix it?
digital jewel
never increments?
you mean it starts but stays at 0.00?
in which case you haven't added any autosplits
dreamy bough
yes
oh
so you can't arbitrarily time between two points in a run (like, say, enter room A to exit room B)?
or do i put a fake autosplit and split manually?
harsh mason
you should be able to manually start and stop the timer during loads
dreamy bough
that was what i was trying to do, but timer staying at 0.00
digital jewel
yes you need a fake autosplit
dreamy bough
alright. Thanks!
haughty fossil
mr mushroom location 6 is a pretty good one
vague jolt
Why location 6 and not location 7?
vague jolt
Wait does it not just count on interacting with mr mushroom?
(Also where is location 6 lmao)
haughty fossil
it does just on mr mushroom
vague jolt
last inlet
is wings 6?
stable flint
I’m not sure where all his locations r tbh. It’s been a while since I did the quest
vague jolt
It's below the overgrown mound shade gate apparently
ionic cargo
would it be valid to submit a recording like this (not my footage) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTdRwbZ-L-M
last inlet
based on the srcom rules it looks like it would be
haughty fossil
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/mr99ep7m verified run
kind flume
Yeah, just make sure there's sound
ionic cargo
ok thanks guys
haughty fossil
as long as game audio is audible and hud elements are not obscured, and you can actually see what's happening, you're all good
ionic cargo
ok
kind flume
good luck running! @ionic cargo
ionic cargo
thanks
stable flint
Wait runs need audio to be verified?
last inlet
i think they need sound but not necessarily the music
kind flume
Yeah, that's right
meager current
yeah because it helps prevent splices
kind flume
Relevant rule from src: "Game audio must be present and HUD elements (masks, soul and geo) must be visible."
stable flint
Ah thanks
mighty rain
Ok so i saw on announcements a "New patch", does it invalidate my current patch run i uploaded yesterday or not, its my first time in a speedruning comunity so i wanted to make sure
mighty rain
But when it is like, launched it Will invalidate it i presume?
last inlet
it won't invalidate the run, they'll likely just change the category to 1.4.3.2 runs
and current patch runs will be separate
mighty rain
Okay, thanks
kind flume
If 1432 runs are invalidated as CurrentPatch runs, they'll go in the other Any% NMG category that can be run on any patch
last inlet
if anyone actually runs the patch
haughty fossil
it depends on whether this patch means anything for speedruns: if yes, then it will be separated. if no, then it will be grouped in and we will likely end up with a 1.4+ category instead
kind flume
Yeah, or that
last inlet
they're gonna bring inventory drops back next patch
haughty fossil
remember that we have full control over how we categorise runs: there is no real reason current patch nmg needs to be current patch other than that it was the easiest rule to implement
kind flume
It's unlikely that anyone is super into 1432 specifically, so there'll still only be two any% nmg categories
last inlet
it may be the case that if they are different enough, 1432 will mainly be used to run godhome runs
but i'd guess otherwise it'll mainly be cp or 1221 for non godhome cats
ionic cargo
lets be honest it probably won't change anything
last inlet
probably not
ofc none of this matters if they don't change anything with regards to runs
haughty fossil
most things that happen in this community end up being discussed at length and often times voted on (except televator 😤), so its likely boards will remain fine. we're not like ori 2 boards, wiping for every new patch
haughty fossil
it's a major glitch that some people half-jokingly argue should be allowed in NMG
mighty rain
Ill look it up later ig
snow dome
Basically if you keep hitting the elevator lever and the switch inside the elevator in a specific way it just puts you at the top floor of the elevator
digital jewel
?saves
sick ravenBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
deep kernel
I installed 1.2.2.1 for speedrunning a couple weeks ago but now sometimes when I launch Hollow Knight in 1.2.2.1 I just get a black screen. Is there any solution for this?
golden bobcat
What is the fastest time you could get using Fireb0rn's 5 hour guide? I took a pretty big detour for shade soul and still got a 2:34 which I'm really proud of
ionic cargo
45 should be possible with shade soul
steady lynx
I mostly put the estimate for me
stiff delta
i think slaurent got a run thats like 42 minutes and it gets shade soul
steady lynx
A good player could easily get 40
ionic cargo
realatable
golden bobcat
A good player could easily get 40
Using the 5 hour guide? Isn't the WR for the normal any% like 30 mins?
ionic cargo
32:55 loadless is wr
steady lynx
All Skills is 50 and that guide is basically that but less
last inlet
Using the 5 hour guide? Isn't the WR for the normal any% like 30 mins?
i think they mean getting shade soul
golden bobcat
i think they mean getting shade soul
Ok
Does anyone have any guides/help with starting running all skills?
steady lynx
Check pins in #all-skills
ionic cargo
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe3Nyw-0gXJpBqG9qLRx195qLFI3FD3_N is helpful, bit old tho
also check the guides on speedrun.com
hallow orchid
that video series is not old at all, it's almost fully up to date with current AS route/tech
ionic cargo
is it? I didn't realise
frigid rapids
the videos were uploaded less than 4 months ago 
golden bobcat
Why can't I write messages in #all-skills ?
hallow orchid
yeah I'd highly recommend that, I think only the dream nail early control after kings brand and I guess the new uumuu wall cling storage will be off
golden bobcat
I won't be able to upload runs
fair island
I won't be able to upload runs
runs are uploaded on speedrun.com
limpid ruin
A good player could easily get 40
I think an estimated top time for shade soul route would be in the 36-38 region?
golden bobcat
runs are uploaded on speedrun.com
I'm on Switch so I can't record
ionic cargo
that video series is not old at all, it's almost fully up to date with current A...
I was using emray's pastebin thing which has a few things different
fair island
you can point a camera on the screen as long as everything is seen (like HUD) and audio is there
ionic cargo
use a camcorder or even just a phone
hallow orchid
that is probably the current patch AS route you're looking at zenith
limpid ruin
There's only a single "outdated" thing in that tutorial series, and that's early control after hornet2 (which is a major glitch when done like in the tutorial)
ionic cargo
that is probably the current patch AS route you're looking at zenith
yeah, cause i'm on switch I forgot 
limpid ruin
Otherwise it's 100% top notch for current 1221 all skills
Ah, then that makes a big difference
hallow orchid
yeah that makes sense. The current patch route is very different
limpid ruin
I still think it can be helpful but in a way less direct way, more in a "teaching the concepts" way
ionic cargo
why is all skills different in 1221 and current patch?
hallow orchid
there is a pretty major skip that is used in 1221 using dash slash to hit a lever to get early shade soul. That's patched out in current patch
ionic cargo
seen that one quite often, sad it got removed
golden bobcat
I don't understand if you kill or skip False Knight?
fair island
you skip if you dont want geo
ionic cargo
skip is what usually happens
hallow orchid
in AS you skip false knight on both patches
golden bobcat
https://www.twitch.tv/krythomsr/clip/AgitatedEagerRutabagaBatChest-sOZCqjkBiD_aL...
What do you do on current patch?
dry sluice
thats not actually the skip on any patch, 1221 hits the lever through the door with dash slash
ionic cargo
can't quickly get shade soul on current patch, you have to kill soul warrior
dry sluice
current patch I assume just gets elegant key and does it normal
ionic cargo
yes
golden bobcat
Is there any completed guide that's similar to this one? https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/n1urw
dry sluice
the thing I posted is for glitched runs but also isn't used in any actual runs
its a randomizer skip
ionic cargo
Is there any completed guide that's similar to this one? https://www.speedrun.co...
https://pastebin.com/DV4SyNbp is what I'm using
fair island
https://pastebin.com/DV4SyNbp is what I'm using
i looked at this + some cp runs on speedrun.com
golden bobcat
What time could I expect on my first run?
hallow orchid
there are route notes pinned for both patches in #all-skills
fair island
depends how much you practice before your first run
hallow orchid
emray's notes are for console runs I believe but I think they are the same as current patch ultimately
true palm
depends how much you're willing to reset
ionic cargo
there is no way for us to know how well you'll do
hallow orchid
ah yeah just looked at em's notes look like the most up-to-date Current Patch AS route so you're good there
limpid ruin
You could also ask/watch gusten's AS pb, they're a console runner so have had to do route considerations recently in terms of that
golden bobcat
Do I save Zote?
rotund jackal
Depends what you're doing
golden bobcat
All skills
ionic cargo
in all skills you don't, you go for the geo rocks near the two moss knights (i think)
true palm
you should check out the current patch leaderboards for all skills
and watch a run or two
really helps in my opinion, thats how i had to learn low%
golden bobcat
I died
ionic cargo
i've spent 3 hours trying to able to consistantly kill hornet 2 (and still can't), just takes a lot of practise
true palm
i've probably dropped 5-8 hours doing low% wk
and i still cant do it consistently
speedrunning takes a lot of time
ionic cargo
yes
golden bobcat
I feel like I might buy the game on PC so I can record, autosplit, load remover and use the normal leaderboard
true palm
it certainly helps
mossy lichen
has anyone run into this problem downpatching. i have an error that says "the system cannot find the file specified."
true palm
im going to need more context
mossy lichen
golden bobcat
How hard is downpatching on Steam?
short spire
matt hk runs???? 
true palm
i honestly don't know
short spire
ive never downpatched with the depot downloader thingy so i cant help there
carmine yew
Is this a steamappid.txt.txt moment
true palm
idk i always use steam downpatcher, seems to be more consistent for everyone
true palm
its broken again?
mossy lichen
is the old method working
true palm
idk i did it a couple weeks ago
mossy lichen
true palm
even made a video
short spire
you might be able to use the other method that uses 56's hacker program to make the steam console work again
golden bobcat
What is the easiest category to learn?
ionic cargo
all skills probably
carmine yew
Depends on what you’re looking for
true palm
full game category its all skills
true palm
theres some skips that are tough to learn if you dont have a pc
ionic cargo
What are the hardest parts of All Skills?
isma tear spike tunnel skip
carmine yew
Spike tunnel is the most difficult required skip, hornet 2 is the hardest fight
golden bobcat
Spike tunnel is the most difficult required skip, hornet 2 is the hardest fight
What is that skip?
carmine yew
The first isma skip is quite easy and the second one can be ignored if you get wings first
true palm
you have to dash through a spike tunnel to avoid dung defender
mossy lichen
okay im dumb i got it to work
hearty adder
You pogo on the spikes on the spike tunnel leading to Isma's Grove to get in without fighting Dung Man
mossy lichen
thanks for the quick responses guys
true palm
your welcome, downpatching can be frustrating when its not working
carmine yew
gg Matt, glad you got it working
golden bobcat
You pogo on the spikes on the spike tunnel leading to Isma's Grove to get in wit...
How much does it lose if you skip it?
ionic cargo
5 mins or so
hearty adder
You can go for Monarch Wings first to make the section in Isma's Grove easier
carmine yew
You should definitely learn the skip, not doing it loses a lot of time
But I do recommend wings first
If you are starting out
hearty adder
Spike tunnel is not as complicated as it sounds
amber lotus
Learned up to dash so far, once I get to dream nail going to prob do a few practice runs up to that point.
But for now being prepped for back surgery
meager plover
can someone help me with livesplit?
twin swallow
what do you need help with
fair island
What's the problem
meager plover
i'm speedrunning p5, and i'm using the autosplitter
i can't find sisters of battle and abs rad there
twin swallow
defeating abs rad counts as an ending, so the autosplitter will end automatically
meager plover
and what about sisters of battle?
i can only find mantis lords, and it didn't work (i lost a good run because of that :c)
meager plover
who should i contact then?
twin swallow
there's a 112% APB splits file on the speedrun.com resources page
meager plover
i don't think it has autosplitter settings though
twin swallow
that just uses Mantis Lords (Pantheon)
limpid ruin
Sure you havent just overlooked sisters of battle?
fair island
Sure you havent just overlooked sisters of battle?
I couldn't find it too
hallow orchid
absrad doesn't have a split, the timer automatically ends on an absrad kill
meager plover
Sure you havent just overlooked sisters of battle?
i'm sure
meager plover
absrad doesn't have a split, the timer automatically ends on an absrad kill
i already realized that, thanks though!
twin swallow
yeah there is no SoB autosplit, the 112 APB autosplitter just seems to use mantis lords
meager plover
yeah there is no SoB autosplit, the 112 APB autosplitter just seems to use manti...
it doesn't
twin swallow
it does, I'm looking at it right now lol
meager plover
when i tried it out mantis lords didn't work
fair island
Maybe try again (and use debug mod to get to that part faster)
hallow orchid
yeah use Mantis Lords (Pantheon)
carmine yew
Also you need ordered splits on iirc
dreamy bough
i had one missing split so i need to reset everything :(
what do you mean?
meager plover
i didn't add mantis lords, so i had to change everything
twin swallow
ordered splits will only split correctly if the next thing in your autosplitter is the next thing you do
meager plover
yes
keen cipher
is there an automatic splitter for PoP with subdivisions for each section of the path?
grizzled maple
no unfortunately. you'd just have to split manually on the load's timer pause
keen cipher
the what, sorry?
ionic sparrow
when you go through a transition, the timer pauses until you have control of your character again
you can manually split during that
this is assuming you are using the autosplitter
just create splits and manually split if you want, the only autosplit is for pop completed
grizzled maple
the autosplitter works by reading game data, and loads (as far as i know) don't have any type of flag that it could read so that's likely never going to be a thing
grizzled maple
yep
granite field
if you've very fast loads might be a good idea to setup a longer loading time with load Normalizer, just to be comfy on manual splits
keen cipher
is that a mod?
grizzled maple
yes, but there's a legal version that doesnt use modding api for 1221
the cp version is not legal
thorn jasper
the autosplitter works by reading game data, and loads (as far as i know) don't ...
cerpin coded a blue lake transition autosplit, idk how
grizzled maple
interesting. and it only splits on that one load??
grizzled maple
maybe possible then. would be nice for PoP runners if they just had transition autosplits. that's the only category i can think of that actually needs it
keen cipher
yes, but there's a legal version that doesnt use modding api for 1221
what's the legal version?
maiden bane
cerpin coded a blue lake transition autosplit, idk how
As it turns out, "cerpintext" is an anagram of "Expert in TC"
grizzled maple
there's a version with several delay options posted in #races-announcements
you might need to "?rank speedrun racer" to see it if you cant
you'd just back up the assembly driver you have, then replace it with that one
keen cipher
As it turns out, "cerpintext" is an anagram of "Expert in TC"
what's TC?
maiden bane
Team Cherry
keen cipher
ah lol
keen cipher
there's a version with several delay options posted in <#363212652056674304>
that channel doesn't exist
sick ravenBOT
@grizzled maple, you joined Speedrun Racer.
grizzled maple
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@grizzled maple, you left Speedrun Racer.
meager plover
hey, i have a little question. i just got my best p5 run, but someone told me that i need to show the main menu, which i did not do. i did see that the top runners didn't show the main menu though, so if i submit the run, will it get verified (nothing crazy btw just a 31)
keen cipher
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@keen cipher, you joined Speedrun Racer.
grizzled maple
hey, i have a little question. i just got my best p5 run, but someone told me th...
This is a new rule to prevent accidental mod use
meager plover
This is a new rule to prevent accidental mod use
so i can't submit it?
grizzled maple
So existing runs won't follow it. No you do need to follow the new guidelines. It's just something to be mindful of from now on.
hearty adder
At least it's a good chance to get another pb in 
meager plover
oh man, i was really proud of this one :(
meager plover
At least it's a good chance to get another pb in <:shroompog:585688871552155649>
it's my second attempt because i started today so probably
hearty adder
The good thing about starting out is that you can improve very quickly
keen cipher
you'd just back up the assembly driver you have, then replace it with that one
I don't have any assembly driver (afaik). I haven't even downloaded LiveSplit lol
so I have no idea about half the things you said
hearty adder
Emray means the assembly file in the Hollow Knight folder, I think
ionic cargo
may I ask what 105% is
formal bough
if you mess up in 106% by like forgetting to seer ascention
grizzled maple
the assembly driver is part of your game files
grizzled maple
the load normalizer is a game mod unrelated to livesplit
grizzled maple
may I ask what 105% is
its a 106% run that genuinely forgets something lol
my run forgot the goam mask during flower despite doing the section 
thorn jasper
keep in the mind the posted load extenders only work for 1.2.2.1
ionic cargo
its a 106% run that genuinely forgets something lol
lmao
meager plover
should i compare my splits to my personal best or best segments?
meager plover
probably
hearty adder
Best segments at the start will discourage you very quickly
meager plover
but even my best segments aren't sub 30 yet because i only did 2 runs
grizzled maple
i personally like running against average if my pb has any really good segments
thorn jasper
running against best will make you want to die
jb reset a decent 4ms run last night because he thought he was comparing to pb 
grizzled maple
thats a toggleable option in settings in livesplit
meager plover
by the way, is there a video for strategies or something?
grizzled maple
for which category?
meager plover
p5
fair island
Current runs from speedrun.com?
meager plover
i'm not speedrunning main game yet lol
grizzled maple
oh i don't think so. just watch a bunch of IL runs
fair island
Yea but you can still see p5 runs
meager plover
oh i don't think so. just watch a bunch of IL runs
IL?
grizzled maple
not just wr because you need to see options for different RNG
IL is individual level. its what youre running
meager plover
i'm not using fury lmao
i just need to learn how to do dung defender scream skip and such
grizzled maple
you can go watch my vod from today? i'm doing a showcase of P5 for the hk speedrun marathon wednesday so i've been practicing
meager plover
okay, can you link it?
grizzled maple
i use the 112% speedrun build but with dweilder added
meager plover
i have no clue what that build is
meager plover
i use MoP longnail strength and quickslash lol
grizzled maple
shaman, quickslash, strength, and grubsong normally
i just added dream wielder because its busted
grizzled maple
i did 3 different runs so you should be able to see some different rng and strats
absolutely
shaman is extremely important
grizzled maple
just gotta practice. you don't have to worry as much about your spacing once you get used to using spells. this is a nail build but it still relies heavily on spell dps
its about 50/50
meager plover
oh okay
but it's just weird to me that nail does almost as shade soul if you use strength and shaman
unless you get double hits
grizzled maple
yeah i love that. that's why it's important to know your options though. without counting hits, you'll eventually just get a feel for when a boss should die. For example, if you get worst rng from massive moss charger (two jumps) and you do the shade souls that you're supposed to, it should die in 3 nail hits.
meager current
its a 106% run that genuinely forgets something lol
does this mean that you can have 111% and 99%? 
oops i didnt turn the ping off
grizzled maple
111% when @ speedrun mods
meager plover
okay i'll be watching the vod but i'll probably have tons of questions
hearty adder
does this mean that you can have 111% and 99%? <:POGGERS:468770185084534802>
Are there active 100% runners anyways
cyan vortex
no
grizzled maple
monstah got his pb not too too long ago. otherwise mick runs 100% NMMS once a year
hearty adder
Tbh I kinda wanna try 100% to see if it really is as bad as they say, but I should stay focused grinding on the cats I'm already doing lol
meager plover
does it matter if my livesplit is covering up a small part of my screen (50% transparent)?
short spire
"not too long ago" aka november 2019 
ionic cargo
quote MonStahLer 'No one should run this category, go run 106% or 112% instead'
grizzled maple
its been that long
hearty adder
"not too long ago" aka november 2019 <:ax2uOmega:805938337457373206>
Time isn't real
grizzled maple
50% of the screen might be a but much for verification tbh
maybe youre exaggerating though.
hearty adder
does it matter if my livesplit is covering up a small part of my screen (50% tra...
Should be fine as long as HUD is visible
cyan vortex
50% of the screen might be a but much for verification tbh
that's not what they mean i think
meager plover
can you post a screenshot?
yes, give me a minute
grizzled maple
it's probably fine. it doesnt have to be transparent at all, just reasonable
meager plover
is this ok?
cyan vortex
it's fine
grizzled maple
yeah definitely
short spire
could be like 2x bigger and it'd still be fine
cyan vortex
and not transparent
meager plover
i want to see my game though
although obs captures it differently so i can make it not transparent there
grizzled maple
we're just saying that the standard is pretty lenient. if it were double size and not transparent at all it'd still be fine
i think it's like 30%+ of the game feed being covered where it becomes 
meager plover
nothing fishy going on in the right side of my screen, i promise!
formal bough
ngl that comment just reminded me of the time that a parrot helped somebody splice
meager current
ngl that comment just reminded me of the time that a parrot helped somebody spli...
celeste
ionic cargo
celeste speedrun?
keen cipher
@grizzled maple so the idea is to take one of these two splitters and edit the splits to PoP sections?
thorn jasper
those splits are giant, you are better off starting from scratch probably
there's a pinned message in this channel linking a livesplit/autosplit guide
also no need to ping individuals, we can all help 
keen cipher
ah sorry
is just that he was already helping me out and I didn't want to explain everything I've talked to him already
formal bough
see the thing is is that we can all read this chat so you wouldn't have to explain more and emray is very anti pings (and gender fluid btw so 'he' is not necessarily the right pronouns) and in fact says that they won't read messages with unnecessary pings out of spite.
grizzled maple
please call me he if you want
i respond to all pronouns
also thats in my own server alex
meager plover
ngl that comment just reminded me of the time that a parrot helped somebody spli...
i still don't realize how it helped
can someone explain
grizzled maple
someone cheated in celeste by using a parrot to hide a telltale part of the screen lol
keen cipher
someone cheated in celeste by using a parrot to hide a telltale part of the scre...
and they thought that shit would fly?
grizzled maple
it covered the save icon, or where it should be
meager current
the autosave icon
grizzled maple
since it wouldn't be the first time they did the segment it wouldnt show it
formal bough
and they thought that shit would fly?
I mean it did until somebody spotted that they had a strange berry
meager plover
since it wouldn't be the first time they did the segment it wouldnt show it
i see, thanks
meager current
I mean it did until somebody spotted that they had a strange berry
i think it was in the summit iirc
strong vessel
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/zx67n2qz My first run was verified!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCu12LsKP8 Video itself
meager plover
yooo!
meager plover
But it's a PB, and I'm happy about that
it's a really good time
strong vessel
My best p5 time is like 32 minutes, real time
meager plover
mine is 31
meager plover
but i can't submit it :(
strong vessel
Rip
strong vessel
It's pretty fun
I'm thinking about learning all skills once I hit my any% goal
Which is sub-40
The bosses are fun with less equipment too
Makes you think about them differently
meager plover
would you say that it's more fun than p5?
if it is, once i get top 20 i'm trying main game
keen cipher
it isn't detecting the autosplitter
thorn jasper
did you select Hollow Knight from the dropdown?
keen cipher
yes
thorn jasper
maybe there's a weird thing with network access. try running as admin?
meager plover
try restarting, it worked for me
thorn jasper
or that
meager plover
try restarting, it worked for me
as admin
keen cipher
maybe there's a weird thing with network access. try running as admin?
oh yeah. that may be it
it's on C:
meager plover
should i use a godseeker file for my p5 runs? idk if they 69420 geo hides a lot of the screen or something
thorn jasper
either way is fine
on src there is a convenient godseeker file with all lifeblood cocoons unlocked
ionic cargo
could 112% APB all glitches be possible on switch
formal bough
don't think anybody has done that on pc either
formal bough
I don't see why not
thorn jasper
I guess? Are there glitches you can do on Switch that would help?
not saying you must do glitches, but I'm curious
ionic cargo
yes, I know a good one
meager plover
on src there is a convenient godseeker file with all lifeblood cocoons unlocked
i spent like 20 hours on getting all bindings on all of the pantheons, might as well flex if i can
wooden rivet
how far do you have to walk (not dash) before crystal dashing would have been faster? is that the space of about two dashes i would guess?
steady lynx
Switch has all glitches cp has except mms doesn't work
ionic cargo
how far do you have to walk (not dash) before crystal dashing would have been fa...
four dashes=one crystal dash approx
wooden rivet
how much for walking though
digital jewel
for walking pretty much any distance will be faster by crystal heart
steady lynx
Unless it's like a Knight length
digital jewel
walking is crazy slow
ionic cargo
Switch has all glitches cp has except mms doesn't work
wdym
wooden rivet
im looking at rooms like the one before traitor lord where dashing will waste your shadow dash and you have to wait in front of the shadow pillar
wooden rivet
for walking pretty much any distance will be faster by crystal heart
thanks!
steady lynx
Exactly what I said
digital jewel
for that room you can dash through it even if you've spent your shadow dash
wooden rivet
o:
digital jewel
actually that might be a modded thing? but I think you can do it vanilla
ionic cargo
what is mms?
grizzled maple
main menu storage
steady lynx
🐌
ionic cargo
ok
steady lynx
Btw, the quick nail charge thing you can do after cdashing through a load, that's not major or anything right?
Because I've started doing it for cyclone drops
digital jewel
what do you mean?
low bramble
its not
steady lynx
If you hold the nail button as you go through a load with cdash and keep holding it the nail art charges faster once you end the cdash
grizzled maple
yeah that's just a TC spaghetti quirk
steady lynx
Great
grizzled maple
on 1221 you can do it during a cdash and give yourself float and that sort of thing is major lol
but like just faster charging is fine
meager plover
emray, i saw your run, and how did you skip the tiso thing at the start of mawlek?
vestal lantern
Hey I just downpatched to 1.2.2.1, and when I drop down at the beginning I can't attack, is this a common thing and if so how do I avoid this?
digital jewel
just by not having talked to tiso
steady lynx
Tiso only spawns if you talk to him
meager plover
oh
digital jewel
@vestal lantern do you have attack bound to a mouse button?
meager plover
should i fire up a godmaster file then?
vestal lantern
<@!299573242098745344> do you have attack bound to a mouse button?
Yes I do
digital jewel
that's why
steady lynx
Yeah, he doesn't appear on Godseeker mode either
digital jewel
mouse binds are reset when you start a new file on 1221
meager plover
mouse binds are reset when you start a new file on 1221
wdym?
digital jewel
meager plover
i have mouse binds so i wanna know
digital jewel
there's this program you can use to bind your mouse to I think H and T?
meager plover
but i don't have problems with my mouse
digital jewel
1221
limpid ruin
1221 doesn't handle mouse well, so you have to trick the computer into thinking its kb
jagged vault
just open the exe while playing hollow knight and bind your mouse inputs to H and J
meager plover
oh i'm not on that version
vestal lantern
Okay, do I just have to run that in the background while playing?
vestal lantern
Okay thank you!
jagged vault
look for blue.exe in the #resources channel
vali named it after me and my cursed keybind scheme
steady lynx
How nice of him
low bramble
wait blue you use mouse?
meager plover
mouse is great
dreamy bough
on 1221 you can do it during a cdash and give yourself float and that sort of th...
on current patch if you have sufficient enough loads you can also charge a nail art fully during the transition (vali did that once somehow), releasing it just stops the cdash (by doing the nail art) though, nothing big
meager plover
where can i get the godseeker file?
limpid ruin
They should be on the src resources page
So speedrun dot com hollow knight and resources in the side panel
limpid ruin
?saves
sick ravenBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
stiff delta
shade soul iirc
ionic cargo
start with a shade soul, and use quick slash to quickly finish off
stiff delta
Id just watch what wr does
ionic cargo
just be ready for which attack he does
ionic cargo
this im assuming https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/y905d5ry
grizzled maple
massive moss charger is two shade souls on start. standing where i was standing in my video. The first should double hit. Then once its about to spawn again, shade soul which should double hit. If its a charger just tap forward and slash. If its a jump hit it with nail and fireball backwards which should double.
meager plover
ok, thanks
steady lynx
For some reason only on the PS4 version, when I pick up the King's brand the game just freezes for like a second
keen cipher
livesplit is set to always on top but it won't go over hollowknight
grizzled maple
iirc you'll need to play borderless windowed for that to work, if i understand what you're saying.
thorn jasper
iirc you'll need to play borderless windowed for that to work, if i understand w...
this I assume? #speedrunning message
keen cipher
this I assume? https://discord.com/channels/283467363729408000/28346798522446644...
how do I do this for the gog version?
without a launcher
grizzled maple
no idea how to do it in gog
thorn jasper
idk what "without a launcher" means for gog, but https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360013424697-How-to-set-Launch-parameters-for-game?product=gog ?
verbal stag
it's the same with gog galaxy
thorn jasper
idk what "without a launcher" means for gog, but https://support.gog.com/hc/en-u...
this example has -force-opengl as an example - replace that with -popupwindow
keen cipher
no
well kinda
without a launcher means just the executable
no launcher like Galaxy or Steam overlay for example
thorn jasper
without a launcher means just the executable
I think you can do right click -> create shortcut, and then right click the shortcut -> properties, and then tack on the argument at the end of the Target
keen cipher
I'll try that
if not, will just import the executable to steam and then try that too
thorn jasper
this worked for me
thorn jasper
I would have gone with Thornway to Heaven