Splits
#speedrunning
limpid ruin
@spice flower bruh get out of here if it's not speedrun related
steady lynx
It's just any% nmg splits
meager current
rotund jackal
@spice flower bruh get out of here if it's not speedrun related
normal aspen
^
limpid ruin
@meager current I recommend just opening a run on src and copying down like that. Helps with route learning
meager current
Ok
steady lynx
Vengeful spirit, mothwing cloak, mantis claw, shaman stone, gorgeous husk, watcher Knight/Lurien, lumafly lantern, crystal heart, Uuwuu/monomon, Herrah, The Hollow Knight
meager current
Wait gorgeous husk has an auto splitter thing or no?
rotund jackal
yeah it does
meager current
Oh wow
Do I need to add a THK autosplit
Or does the timer automatically end if thk is killed in general
normal aspen
any ending autosplits
meager current
So if any ending is triggered the timer stops?
steady lynx
Yes
meager current
Regardless of other autosplits?
What happens if the last autosplit on my splits setup is triggered
Also do I have to start the timer manually
Or does it start as soon as a file is started
knotty vigil
I just completed the game😈 42h Speedrun
limpid ruin
It depends on whether youre using the "end triggering autosplits" or not, s6
the timer autostarts as you drop down in KP
haughty fossil
if you run a full game category, don't tick that one
haughty fossil
it means that an autosplit can trigger the end, rather than only ending when a game ending is reached
meager current
Why has it cleared my autosplits :/
limpid ruin
bc that didnt use to be a feature, and we didnt want to remove the original option for that when we implemented it
bc woooo screw autosplits 
remember to save and not cancel the splits editor when youve set it up
meager current
Ok I fixed it
turns on game time comparing
Why did it change back
How do I get permission to talk in #modded-runs
limpid ruin
you need a run on src verified
meager current
Ah
limpid ruin
either hkmemes, hkmods, or main hollow knight boards are valid
meager current
Imma run HKmods until I can get inv drops down
steady lynx
Like three
meager current
Oh lol
limpid ruin
4 soon
steady lynx
People focus vanilla more
meager current
I think I know why I thought QoL was allowed in runs now
Becuase I thought that Inv drops were only with the mod XD
I'm stupid lol
limpid ruin
nah, just inexperienced 
meager current
I have done like 2 Inv drops before
Without the mod
But like took me 100 attempts
steady lynx
Cp inventory drops are meh
meager current
I can't be bothered to downpatch either lol
normal aspen
just do any% cp
meager current
I might as well just do main board
I don't need inv drops
I'll just go for them when I can lol
But like frame perfect stuff be hard lol
limpid ruin
inv drops are more a fun thing to get than anything vital anyway
normal aspen
they dont matter too much its more just swag
jaunty anvil
didn’t record but did my first run in 1 hour 56 , used shade soul for dps cuz im not good enough 2 do watchers n thk w lvl1 fireball
any%nmg 😋😋😋
meager current
hmm im trying to start my run but autosplitter isnt starting when i start a new file
*livesplit
nvm
well now i have a different problem
the splits start but the timer doesnt
how do i fix
limpid ruin
are you running it in admin mode?
meager current
no
limpid ruin
try that
meager current
wait does opneing livesplit before hk change anything lol
limpid ruin
that to. You should open it after you start the game
drowsy tangle
That does screw it up sometimes if u open it before hollow knight. No clue why
Maybe it just doesn’t recognize the game when it’s not opened at that time
proven ember
?rank randomizer racer
sick ravenBOT
@proven ember, you joined Randomizer Racer.
proven ember
i'm back baybee
drowsy tangle
Btw I have a question, in Pisces all skills run he dashes twice in the air (46:08), how does he do that? I assume he storages a jump or something
thorn jasper
the first dash is probably off a ledge?
drowsy tangle
No
thorn jasper
let me check it then
drowsy tangle
He jumps up, dashes, double jumps then dashes again
thorn jasper
oh, the greenpath airwalk
the airwallk makes the game think you are walking, so it resets the dash
idk how to set that up
drowsy tangle
Ok, it’s weird cuz I don’t see him doing anything special in the room b4
limpid ruin
its basically: dash over a seem in the ground and buffer a jump for the end of the dash
you usually just need to use hitbox viewer to know for certain there's a seam in the ground there
or experimenting
drowsy tangle
oh ok, i won't test that since it's only a minor time save, but cool to know :D
deft flame
can you install modding api and debug mod on the linux version?
limpid ruin
That's actually a good question. I want to guess no, but worth a try?
deft flame
i think it should be possible since its all open source
i just found there's a compiled linux version for the modding api but im still not sure about debug mod
limpid ruin
Yea, you could port it, but that's like a looot of effort
snow dome
I know people have done it but I don't know if that did anything special to get it to work
deft flame
I'd try compiling it myself but unfortunately i don't know anything about C# 😅
I may try it later though
haughty fossil
debugmod uses moddingapi so should be perfectly fine running on 1221 moddingapi
deft flame
I'm running CP though
haughty fossil
and 1432 moddingapi
deft flame
oh ok
haughty fossil
1432 moddingapi is universal i thought?
deft flame
I see so it'll probably work then. I'll try installing it later
it is kinda weird to me that hollow knight has .dll files on linux instead of .so
haughty fossil
unity moment
iirc jason runs linux so you should be fine, you just won't be able to use modinstaller unfortunately
deft flame
yeah thats fine
if its universal i can just get the download links from the modinstaller project and download any mods manually
worthy sluice
Alright lads!!!!! Time to die to the stupid watcher knights about 500 more times! Lets go!!!!!!!
snow dome
Eyeroll emoji
hearty adder
Going with a negative mindset is probably not helping
hearty adder
If you're so stuck on them maybe you could try other categories where you're either very buff or just don't encounter them?
worthy sluice
Aah ive already put so much time into them, and ive seen myself improve a decent margin
I feel like it would be counterintuitive
grizzled maple
i mean, the only way to get good is do it several hundred times
worthy sluice
I used to not be able to make it past the first one, now i can easily kill two if im given decent attack patterns
Sometimes i even make it to the last one
dull birch
There you go! Improvement! :)
worthy sluice
: )
dull birch
It's all about small steps
worthy sluice
I just had a solid run, however i feel a bit sluggish, like im watching really good runners and it feels like their nail is so much faster than mine
dull birch
Ugh, I feel you on that
dull birch
I'm still new though so I'm expecting myself to be slow af for awhile lol.
deft flame
i also spam way too much
worthy sluice
I feel like i play a little too safe
grizzled maple
thats not a bad thing. when youre new you should be playing to live. going fast is just going to get you hit without the experience of knowing your openings from their combined patterns
the fast part comes with time
dull birch
Watching the top runners is good to get an idea on the route, but you shouldn't compare yourself to them if you're just starting. They've put hundreds and hundreds of hours into practicing. It's best to take it slow, play it safe until you're comfortable
Work on consistency, then the speed will come :)
Like I go for safety benches, farm for soul just incase, but that just means you know you can save time there later!
dull birch
I can completely understand though that it can feel... Intimidating or discouraging?? Watching top runs. But it's best to remember that we're all doing this for fun, because we love the game! And we're all rooting for one another, seasoned runner or beginner alike
patent quartz
That's just a matter of experience
dull birch
Again, that will come with time :)
versed elbow
patent quartz
If you play more, you automatically learn it yes
grizzled maple
Once you've done something enough, doing it wrong will feel wrong
worthy sluice
Yeah, ive played hollow knight for so long honestly i have cornifers map implanted in my head
dull birch
This exactly! Once you know how to do something, if something doesn't work, you can usually tell exactly what you did incorrectly. That alone is proof of improvement
worthy sluice
I know about where i am just about anytime, (unless you are in deepnest, i never go to deepnest)
snow dome
Once you've done something enough, doing it wrong will feel wrong
This, but with how you use language
worthy sluice
Me too
snow dome
(This is about the lads thing again)
grizzled maple
being totally honest. i spent an entire day learning every detail of deepnest for when i started rando, because even 1xx% runs dont do most of it
snow dome
You can choose to be inclusive.
dull birch
Ugh frig deepnest lol
worthy sluice
Looks like i got another challenge right after the rng runkiller that is uuwuu
patent quartz
Deepnest is the only part of Hallownest I cant traverse on autopilot, it just feels different everytime idk
versed elbow
I feel like my first run is gonna start feeling really good at some point when I get into a flow then I'm gonna hit the Herrah split and be like "Ok... Where in god's name am I going?"
dull birch
Lol, that's a mood
grizzled maple
its a bit complicated if youre not doing qga yeah
grizzled maple
i have a video with the route if you need it. just yell at me
dull birch
I've killed runs because I've went to the soul sanctum while forgetting to get dash slash 
grizzled maple
i mean, it only skips a little. qg is a whole other beast
versed elbow
And from everything I've seen QGA is not a beginner friendly skip.
wild brook
Some weeks ago I got the speedrunning achievements on the first try. I've just managed to improve the time by 40 minutes!
Its any% current patch. I didn't do the Queen's Gardens skip or the Fungal Wastes' pogo cause I am too bad. I also got 2 masks, 2 notches, and killed No eyes and Xero for a pale ore to deal with the Watcher Knights. Man am I happy rn.
patent quartz
Qg is not an easy skip no, i'm just getting into speedrunning and it hasnt gone well
grizzled maple
im not talking about the skip lol
wild brook
Yeah I spent quite a while trying to get that skip and I just couldnt xD
grizzled maple
the petra arena with VS is kinda bad, and the movement is tight, plus 1221 takes an intentional damage
wild brook
I got it once... and the mantis in the arena killed me :/
grizzled maple
basically the entire QGA route is a huge jump up in skill level once youre ready for it
versed elbow
I kinda felt like I was just bad in practice. I was missing the acid skip to get to uwu too. I couldn't time the jump after cdash
worthy sluice
Alright imma go throw attempt after attempt at the watchers until they die! See yall later and thanks for the encouragement
grizzled maple
something i like to do is cancel it just before i hit the wall. i feel like it gives me more time to react. its actually the exact timing as the normal jump, but you can see the animation change to wall grab from airborne
wild brook
Good luck! I think I'm gonna start setting up the timers and just record my next runs. 1:54 is already in the leaderboard and I'm pretty hyped to improve it.
grizzled maple
the only skip i dont cancel the cdash is the 2nd isma acid skip because you rely on hitting that wall for the trick to work
limpid ruin
whether you choose to stop before crashing or not has the same timings, it just depends whether you trust your dashes or jumps out of cdash frames more
(also you can mash dash so you can buffer walljump)
patent quartz
Offtopic, I want to downpatch my game, will that affect my current save files?
versed elbow
Kinda wish I was on PC for some of this stuff sometimes Save states or being able to be invincible while practicing would be nice.
grizzled maple
you cant open newer patch files on older patches, but it can go the other way.
wild brook
Offtopic, I want to downpatch my game, will that affect my current save files?
I think you can make a backup of your saves. I don't remember the folder location though
grizzled maple
it can corrupt the files, so if you dont want to lose them, just back them up
patent quartz
Ah okay
grizzled maple
?saves
sick ravenBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
Game Files: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\``` ** ** Mac File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/hollow_knight.app/``` ** ** Linux File Paths: ```Save Files: ~/.config/unity3d/Team Cherry/Hollow Knight/ Game Files: ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight/```
grizzled maple
^
patent quartz
Thanks
One of those saves is my first ever one, kinda wanna keep it for some reason
versed elbow
I'm gonna be deleting mine at some point if I get really serious about running. It's in the top slot and it's easier on console (or maybe just controller in general) to just be able to press continue and have the save right at the top.
For save warps
patent quartz
Yeah, but that is indeed for top of the board
It saves you like 1/2 seconds total at best i think
versed elbow
That's true.
grizzled maple
over the 2.5 years ive been running this game, i managed to back up all of these vanilla files and at this point im not sure what any of them are at all
i wonder if one of them was my first ever attempt at following the any% route before i said fuck watchers and learned all skills lol
versed elbow
One of them might be your first save ever?
grizzled maple
i never played this casually honestly
versed elbow
grizzled maple
i bought the game to speedrun
versed elbow
Hardcore from the start
dull birch
Oh really?? Damn
versed elbow
Emray is gangsta
dull birch
Getting right down to business lol
grizzled maple
it wasnt quite as popular or as optimized then 
i just thought it was a pretty game
grizzled maple
i run both pc and switch yeah
versed elbow
I have Xbox and Switch
grizzled maple
people would scoff at console or decide not to run it because "slower" than pc, so i went and routed and ran everything to try and build some morale
it worked so i'm content 
versed elbow
I'm probably gonna run both and I have no clue why
grizzled maple
after getting used to pc, playing console feels like playing hk underwater lol
versed elbow
I keep hearing that and I'mma be real, I have no idea what it means. It's probably a creative way to say slow.
maiden bane
Yeah, there's a bit of input lag on console, as I understand it
dull birch
Yup lol
grizzled maple
yeah this game is HORRIBLE at lower than 120 fps
thorn jasper
I played hundreds of hours on Switch and couldn't feel anything wrong. Then I got a good pc and played there for a while. Going back to Switch feels horrendous 
grizzled maple
just imagine yourself sitting at the bottom of a pool and you move your arms. thats the nail swing in console hk lol
versed elbow
Lmao
hallow orchid
same, slaurent, going back to switch is rough
(sincerely, my low% elegy run last night 
)
versed elbow
I love swimming, so that one hits
dull birch
I haven't gone back. Played it first on switch, casually. Got it on pc when I decided to run it
versed elbow
I never got into PC gaming for some reason so I just stayed console.
dull birch
But even then my pc is like 10 years old so it probably feels the same as console for me
small magnet
Ugh, had my first real road block tonight. Mistakes all over the place! Felt rough
cold geyser
woah guys i found a city of tears TAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nBRAYLfxE
potent mountain
wrong discord buddy
rotund jackal
The first dropdown menu has "open recording files" or something along these lines
meager current
wait
if i have modding api installed but no mods running is the run still valid
small magnet
Rules say that you can't have the modding api installed
rotund jackal
To be clear your run is invalid
twin swallow
more encouragement to run again
meager current
half of that run was watcher knights
haughty fossil
moddingapi fundamentally changes how some mechanics work internally due to unity pepega, so yeah, not allowed for vanilla runs
hasty viper
there is actually a real TAS made with libtas, and he is working on Pantheon of Hallownest TAS https://www.bilibili.com/video/av928020409
meager current
insert sad noises here
bleak saddle
deft flame
i have a video with the route if you need it. just yell at me
oh i actually would like that video if thats ok
grizzled maple
leaden python
I guess libtas is able not to desync for a short segments like a single room or single boss fight. Nice
deft flame
https://youtu.be/WaZ6yRHOf-o
thank you so much!
haughty fossil
description says they used a combo of vsync (ew) and framestepping to create some level of sync consistency, though we don't actually know how effective that is over a longer run
but yeah that's impressive
if the PoH tas works then i see no reason why it shouldn't be transferable to a full game run
leaden python
I mean u gotta do what yo gotta do to keep this hell of a spaghetti from desyncing 🙂
hasty viper
yeah for the loading between room sync is a bit annoying
leaden python
I guess they mention that s/q affects sync a lot as well
worthy sluice
I DID IT
I didjdkdidkdbfnzjfb AHAHAHAHAH
The stupid knights are dead
I have one health
Lurian is dead crabrave
meager current
how do i remove the modding api
haughty fossil
if you're on current patch, go steam > hollow knight properties > local files > verify integrity of game files
if you're on 1221, you should probably create a separate install or ask somebody for their 1221 vanilla Assembly-CSharp.dll
small kernel
https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/zx6981ez i would like one speedrunner role, please!
meager current
so steam will detect the modding api and remove it?
haughty fossil
if on current patch, the "verify integrity of game files" makes steam check all of your game files and redownloads them if they've been modified. so yes, it will delete moddingapi
haughty fossil
that is correct
meager current
k
twin swallow
thats vanilla CSharpAssembly being redownloaded
meager current
imma open hk and see when happens
twin swallow
jamie stop monocle-ing me i feel attacked
haughty fossil
jb im sorry but thats not the correct name, i must monocle by law ok now i feel bad
drowsy tangle
@ S6 gl 
spark sinew
okay so i’ve been struggling with explosion pogo for so long
i’m on current patch and i’m doing the damage boost thing
but i’m always so close to making it
like what am i doing wrong
leaden python
it seems like you're jumping too late and not pogoing the spore at the apex of your jump. Also, do you have vsync enabled? Is your monitor 60hz or 144hz? Or are you playing on console?
spark sinew
console
leaden python
nice, then look at when you jump and make sure that you pogo the spore at the absolute apex of your jump
Have you consulted emray's tutorial?
grizzled maple
you moved right
it is extremely important from the initial jump position to remain neutral until its time to go left
spark sinew
is it because my DI
grizzled maple
yes if youre holding a direction, it controls the knockback angle
so if youre only holding down and get hit with the top section of the explosion, you can only go straight up, and you need ALL of that height
the position looked okay though. possibly a little far right, so if being neutral doesnt help, thats my next advice
spark sinew
aight thanks i’ll try that out
i got 1 attempt that got me good height but it made me dash the wrong way even when holding left when i dashed
abstract onyx
So umm, is controller required or the prefered method for running this game or is kbm fine as well?
meager current
kbm is fine as well iirc
formal bough
kb is fine. using a mouse is actually used by some people as well.
limpid ruin
kb is fine, kb+m is fine (as long as you use ahk or blue.exe from #resources to fix the single issue with mouse), controller is fine, anything is fine as long as youre comfy with it
harsh mason
anything that isn't a shitpost is a fine input
jagged vault
it's pretty much evenly split between controller and kb
i'm one of the mouse "weirdos"
median gull
You should use what makes you feel comfortable.
spark sinew
let’s go i got it
abstract onyx
(well it was mainly due to me not having a controller currently, but I wanted to start learning nmg)
Speaking of which, are there some good resources to start out with?
verbal stag
check out da pinned messages
abstract onyx
Ty. Checked it previously, but nothing loaded. Assuming discord borked on my end
jagged vault
if you're looking to learn any% NMG specifically, i'd recommend you watch fireb0rn's any% tutorial series
Pisces_FL has a good guide series for All Skills if you're looking to learn that insteadd
those two are the main beginner categories
strong cosmos
does hollow knight have any sort of built in timer? I currently only own the game on my switch and its where im practicing my speedruns, im not really taking times right now cuz im no where near good enough, but it would be nice to see if ive improved at all
spark sinew
when you beat the game it says your time but i think that’s it
formal bough
On a switch you use realtime and go on a different leaderboard from the loadless times
strong cosmos
got it
formal bough
(and the ingame timer exists - with numerous flaws as i've seen a 3 second time and there is surely lower)
strong cosmos
if i were to use a capture card to stream it to my pc, could i then use an overlay timer?
okay, I cant say ive ever finished a full run, i keep going back to practice earlier sections, and my first playthrough im going to do 112%, and havent gotten around to it yet
austere terrace
Hi there,
Anyway to change font and font size for splits text in livesplit ?
stable rain
Should be in Layout settings > Splits
formal bough
You don't need an overlay timer, but go ahead.
stable rain
And then you should be able to edit it to whatever you want hyphi
strong cosmos
okay, thanks for letting me know
stable rain
Oh it's layout settings and then there's a button on the bottom
worthy sluice
Today is a great day!!!!
stable rain
Like bottom left of the window I think
austere terrace
Oh it's layout settings and then there's a button on the bottom
Sadly don't found it :/
teal summit
Just got an in game timer sub 50
austere terrace
Like bottom left of the window I think
austere terrace
Np thanks !
verbal stag
its just in layout settings
stable rain
It's in regular layout for the font
verbal stag
ye
austere terrace
Ye found this thanks :)
Size change regarding windows size but can't change ratio
stable rain
Yeah I can't find how to change the size either, it's odd
frigid rapids
can some1 smart explain what happened here
it probably has to do with the custom pickup, maybe getting knocked into it caused that
quick meteor
gotcha
haughty fossil
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImportantVivaciousClintOptimizePrime
basically your game broke
nocturne field
How bad is a 4:25 for vengeful spirit on 1.2.2.1 NMG?
I fucked some stuff up but it's my current best
jagged vault
it's good if you're proud of it!
that's all you should care about! you're learning and mistakes be ironed out over time 
cold geyser
having a base time to improve on over time is satisfying
jagged vault
yeah that's why finishing a run no matter waht can be good in the start
gives you something to compare to while at the same time highlighting what you're struggling with the most so you know what to focus your practice time on
nocturne field
Yeah that's true, thanks!
I got out of KP in under a minute which was my goal but I choked and accidentally ran into False Knight with one mask 😂
true hound
i beat my goal of under 1.5 hours CP NMG!
austere terrace
Started a week ago @nocturne field and yeah, just set your own goal and be proud. BTW I felt like I didn't want to practice next split until I felt I can do one perfectly with skip and stuff. I stopped that and feel much better since I just focus on the routing and just know what I COULD do at any time and avoid skips for the time being. It worked for me. I'm under 50min pace just with good routing and few tricks. So I feel routing is the first focus as a begginer.
Also setting a time goal (mine is sub 1h/0:50) and watch run of ppl to see which skip they do or don't to reach ur time goal seems like a good idea
And check their splits also, helps a lot, and build confidence when u match the pace u want to achieve. Better than checking pest or fireborn times :p
livid stirrup
I WAS THREE SECONDS AWAY FROM SUB 1HR 😂 😂 😂
I'm very proud of 1:00:02 though
I know I can do better bc I uh
Fell off distant village
And had to climb back up
🤦♀️
deft flame
hey so im having trouble getting the thing where uumuu is inside the platform so he doesnt get a lot of knockback, is that not a thing on current patch?
haughty fossil
it is not
steady lynx
Uumuu takes more knockback on cp so the normal setup doesn't work
twin swallow
I can't believe 106 runner vysualsTV forgot to mention this important difference in his recent video
haughty fossil
my usual setup is:
- bait uumuu to attack off to one side, and slightly above of the centre platform, with you standing on the outside facing in when quirrel finally decides to get out of bed
- jump and nailcancel, dash towards uumuu. if you're spaced far enough away the fireball will double and you won't dash directly into uumuu's rng-dependent ass (usually)
- repeat nailcancels, make sure you fireball away all your soul before the end of the cycle
- repeat twice and boom, uumuu 3 cycle
deft flame
alright cool, i'll try that
haughty fossil
baiting uumuu to that area also makes it relatively easy to counter doubles, you can see uumuu start moving quickly and immediately dash under him onto the outer-lower platform, then stand on the outer-upper platform next move cycle to bait him back into the position (some adjustments may be necessary)
deft flame
so far im really bad at spacing myself so that i can get dream nails but i'm sure i'll get better with (a lot) more practice
haughty fossil
yeah dream nails come with practice, but are the most important part of the fight so.... 
steady lynx
Had a 112 today that was -3:12 before the King's Brand split, long story short, gonna practice Hornet 2
hollow mesa
I've been practicing p5 to start doing 112 runs I can actually complete and I got bopped at 4th phase absrad 😭
deft flame
my usual setup is:
- bait uumuu to attack off to one side, and slightly above of...
thanks! this strat worked great
steady lynx
4th phase of AbsRad isn't too difficult on a practical level, it's more the level of nerves that gets to you then that can cause issues imo
hollow mesa
yeah. I had three masks at the start of phase 3 and got hit on the way up to phase 4. I've gotten used to being much more patient on the first two phases but nerves do hit really hard after that
grizzled maple
dying there in runs is just part of running 112 happens to the best of us
if you wanna be super weenie just to make sure you finish runs at first, you can do the pogo strat
theres a ceiling just above the fight that eats the orbs
hollow mesa
Yeah, I think I saw a skurry vod where he did that. My OG strat was to at least be able to throw a couple fireballs then play patient
steady lynx
I love pogo strats on AbsRad, makes her so much easier to deal with, though a bit slower
grizzled maple
i think i have a tutorial video on this too but it was really early on and i still didnt know how to edit videos well 
hollow mesa
Honestly with my 112 goal being anything less than seven hours, pogo isn't that big a deal for absrad
ivory roost
I'm currently downpatching to 1.2.2.1 and its taking 5 hours and counting. Is that normal?
(I;m using steam)
grizzled maple
depends on your internet kluter, but something could be wrong...
ivory roost
How long does it normally take?
grizzled maple
i dont know enough about the new downpatch methods
its 100% your own download speed so theres no normal amount of time
steady lynx
Honestly with my 112 goal being anything less than seven hours, pogo isn't that ...
As a start just finishing a run is a great goal and then seeing how one can improve from there
low pulsar
hollow mesa
Yeah. I have the src route learned, I'm going to spend some time making notes on the changes between that and current route, then do attempts. I took me about 9 hours to get to 108% while I was learning, so shaving that down to 7 hours or less is pretty attainable. I spent like 1:45 getting trial of the fool down lol
ivory roost
Alright. I got the downpatch to work. (It was just hanging on one part for some reason. Ended up only taking 20ish minutes after I restarted it) and now I'm ready to rock. I hope to get my name up on the all skills leaderboard soon 🙂
rancid junco
For the double spike kill on the aspids in the Forgotten Crossroads, if I can only get the first one, that is probably due to hitting the spike too late, right? (on 1.2.2.1)
hearty adder
Could also be just the way they spawned in
on 1221 their placement isn't 100% consistent
on cp however, yeah that'd mean you hit it a little too late
grizzled maple
its a lot more precise on 1221 yeah. you need to hit the spike basically as soon as it starts to fall. if you only get one, youre too late even by frames
it is 100% consistent when you are consistent. see: ax2u
limpid ruin
For the double spike kill on the aspids in the Forgotten Crossroads, if I can on...
Probably hit it too late, yea. Basically you just have to buffer jump immediately from the edge of the platform, then hit the spike as soon as possible with the top of your nail hitbox. If the spike has started falling you're too late, (source: pest)
grizzled maple
even getting one kill though is still faster than not going for double spike at all as long as your follow up on the last aspid is clean
neon island
This message will no doubt help: #speedrunning message
ivory roost
That message is difficult to read.
grizzled maple
theres one fine detail during practice that might help you
if you do this correctly on 1221, the spike will ALWAYS land in the exact same place. if it doesnt land there, you know your timing was off. if it does land there, but you only got one kill, your initial jump timing was off
thorn jasper
theres one fine detail during practice that might help you
if you do this corre...
ohh I didn't know this
grizzled maple
lemme get a screenshot unless someone else is faster
thorn jasper
is it like on that platform?
rancid junco
Ok, thank you. I think the issue has to do with turning around. When on the platform about to jump for the spike, turning around seems to slow me down a bit. I think I also need to hit sooner (i.e. I am thinking the nail hitbox is smaller than it is). Thank you so much for the help!
thorn jasper
uhhh what do you do if you cant find the spike
honest bear
anyone know how i can get the speedrunner role
grizzled maple
left goes into the ground almost entirely. you were wayy too late in that case
have a verified run on src funk
honest bear
can i post a link?
grizzled maple
yep and ask the src mods here
grizzled maple
@ the role if you do so whoever is available can get it
there's a chance that one of them is lurking though so you might not need to ping
finally
this trick is hard you know that
it basically lines up with the right of that platform above
honest bear
<@&284848710960021504> i do be having a run submitted, and was wondering if i could get the speedrunner role https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/ylo39nny
short spire
bro why dont people just link the video
short spire
for the spike kill
honest bear
i swaer
honest bear
its aight
grizzled maple
i have no idea how to find it
short spire
should be in resources
limpid ruin
Bc the video scares me and you're too good so it's hard to actually learn from it okay 
rancid junco
Oh I watched your video Ax2u
It was extremely good
I think I might just need more practice
grizzled maple
it is really tight. there's another version you can do that some people find easier where you come from the top platform
thorn jasper
I just watched it too. the first (video) frame where the nail input display is lit up is so much sooner than I thought was feasible. also I was doing a top-platform strat
grizzled maple
i usually just go for it and get excited when i get it. (i mostly run cp categories anyway and cp is free for this trick)
like i said, if you can even get one kill and follow up on the 2nd aspid fast, its still faster than not doing it at all
thorn jasper
cp is free for this trick
Tell that to my 4ms runs last week where the aspids decided to spawn like a year apart and messed me up
neon island
Speaking of messed up aspids, what does it mean if you hit the second one but not the first?
grizzled maple
too soon
the first ones hitbox wasnt up yet when the spike passed it, but the 2nd was
uneven scarab
someone feel like racing me on cp all skills?
normal aspen
uneven scarab
BELLLO
Speedrunning Chat?
Well, @ me to let me know where and when you want to start
(if you want to)
Will be doing practice in the meantime
normal aspen
If we get a few I will
thorn jasper
I cheated to get the spike into the platform on 1.2.2.1 
uneven scarab
Is it time to finally use @ speedrun racer?
<@&424185108954742795> Anyone wanna do a CP All Skills race with me and potentially Insomnia? (Sorry for a non-announcement ping)
twin swallow
I'm interested but about to eat dinner so won't be available for a little bit
zenith sorrel
!rank speedrun racer
thorn jasper
?rank
sick ravenBOT
zenith sorrel
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@zenith sorrel, you left Speedrun Racer.
earnest carbon
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@earnest carbon, you left Speedrun Racer.
thorn jasper
Ok I guess don't use speedrun racer for that
digital jewel
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@digital jewel, you joined Speedrun Racer.
digital jewel
?rank speedrun racer
sick ravenBOT
@digital jewel, you joined Speedrun Racer.
digital jewel
haughty fossil
you can never leave
uneven scarab
Well, I believe that's what it was meant to be used for
carmine yew
That is what it’s meant to be used for lol
deft thorn
tbf, he does have a point
thorn jasper
It's definitely how @ Randomizer Racer gets used like every day
deft thorn
I just guess that people aren't expecting pings for training races before the start of the tourney
thorn jasper
I just guess that people aren't expecting pings for training races before the st...
especially for cp 
uneven scarab
yeah
deft thorn
It's definitely how @ Randomizer Racer gets used like every day
worth mentioning that the rando people actually like doing casual races and playing together, while most speedrunners don't
conclusion:
rando rando is cute
uneven scarab
TRUE
normal aspen
Yeah it's that like 4 people don't actively hate all skills cp
carmine yew
I might race if it starts soon
thorn jasper
@ Current Patch Tolerators any race or
carmine yew
I’ll need to have the pastebin up tho
uneven scarab
Yooo
gaunt hill
I was wondering wtf that ping was. I thought I left this discord early last year lmao. thanks for the reminder. 
normal aspen
Someone else should join the cp bracket of the tournament So I can drop and we still have 8
grizzled maple
yeah uh haha theres a lot of people who joined that role only for the tourney coming up
thorn jasper
I could race but will be rusty and will need my route notes up
uneven scarab
Don't worry, I have notes up too
normal aspen
Yeah I haven't even finished a run with mossy boi route
uneven scarab
Although, I don't really look at it
haughty fossil
dw insomnia ill join again
uneven scarab
well, speedrunning channel for those who want to join?
haughty fossil
running with both hands and feet
uneven scarab
lol Jamie
twin swallow
if jamie faced himself in the cp all skills tourney, would it be hands vs feet or left side vs right side
haughty fossil
keyboard vs controller
normal aspen
KB vs controller crew battle would be kinda cool
haughty fossil
except literally everyone's on keyboard
uneven scarab
that it would, u joining ins0mnia?
normal aspen
Pisces is controller right?
haughty fossil
kb
normal aspen
it used to be super even in rando between the two
haughty fossil
its alright, im just gonna channel my inner monslasher and destroy 1221 rekky on cp
normal aspen
would have actually been super close
snow dome
I'm on keyboard now so controller has a fighting chance
twin swallow
controller gang I'll provide comic relief by dying in basin
haughty fossil
controller gang i'll provide comic relief by failing vsync epogo
abstract shore
controller gang
uneven scarab
haughty fossil
simo all skills tourney?????
normal aspen
100k mod race
rugged perch
Keyboard 
neon island
Controller peepoArrive
granite field
uh why not but do you plan to do this race now?
It's 2 am here
(to respond to the ping earlier)
I'd love to race but seems like the time zone screw me lol
worthy sluice
ILL RACE, it will just be really disapointing, like curbstomping a baby
wicked kettle
I'm trying to get into NMG, and want to create a seperate installation so so I don't lose my main save on current patch, but the guide to create a seperate installation on speedrun.com isn't there anymore
anyone know some resources I can use?
digital jewel
save files are shared between game installs
you can backup your main save but that has nothing to do with if you're downpatched or not
worthy sluice
Sorry im learning the route, doesnt uumuu come after cyrstal heart
neon island
Yeah
nocturne field
anyone have some tips to increase FPS in hollowknight? My computer isn't terrible and most games it handles perfectly fine but I get large lag spikes and it makes my runs sloppy and I miss some strats sometimes.
stray kestrel
Do you play on an older computer?
because if so, it might help to run hk using dx9 instead of dx11
narrow crater
why is it that sometimes when I superslide, I shoot off really fast, and other times I go so slow that I can't cross the gap before the floor falls?
dry sluice
mini debug lets you slide when you actually wouldn't normally
anything less than full speed slide means you were too slow on the pause
full speed is 37.5
dry sluice
slide happens because of timescale being set to 0 and then back, doesn't do that if its not a kill
narrow crater
ok so when you pause it sets timescale to 0, then the kill happens right after and sets back to 1, and speed is uncapped when the pause menu is open?
so the knockback sends you across
dry sluice
horizontal speed just doesn't have a cap
you go to 37.5 because its 10 frames of knockback stacking on top of each other at 3.75
I mean it caps at like 5000 or something because unity but it doesn't have a cap in the sense that falling does
dry sluice
same frame
dry sluice
game doesn't have deceleration
idk why it stacks though if thats what you mean
probably just something to do with pause menu being up changing things
narrow crater
I was wondering that too but why do you stop after killing an enemy normally
dry sluice
pause menu being up also makes analog stick actually be read as such
narrow crater
if theres no deceleration
dry sluice
like if you hold less on the analog you'll move slower
narrow crater
oh thats interesting
dry sluice
pause menu just fucks with movement in some way idk exactly how I haven't actually looked into it
seems like anything that would normally move you at a constant speed accelerates you at that speed instead, just doesn't take away the speed the way it normally does I guess so you keep it and then add on the next bit
like if you're on a conveyor belt you'll accelerate as long as you're still on that as well
or whatever else
like wind
narrow crater
maybe it just runs the line of code repeatedly
dry sluice
there's not too much that moves you though
narrow crater
yeah like NG+ Kings Pass
solid bough
im having trouble with livesplit saving my settings for some splits i want - whenever i save the layout or splits and reopen it says either not recognized as a liveplit file or it shows up blank
dry sluice
not exactly but kinda
solid bough
am i saving my settings wrong or is this normal
when i close livesplit it asks me to save the splits and i do but it doesnt let me open the file after i re open
narrow crater
i can't seem to get the blue lake trick consistent, sometimes I fall into the water when I just want to walk on the air and vice versa. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with closing map when the scene loads but idk if its just precise or if I'm missing something
narrow crater
when i close livesplit it asks me to save the splits and i do but it doesnt let ...
Can you send a ss
dry sluice
yeah its just timing, I never had it 100% consistent
used salubras laugh as an audio cue or something
solid bough
yeah one sec
narrow crater
it at least determines the height you start at when you load the scene
solid bough
dry sluice
tbh any time I was running AG I was just trying to get it over with 🥴
narrow crater
i get it, its pretty tedious
dry sluice
didn't look too deep into setups since its short and I could just reset if necessary
narrow crater
but something about just breaking the game apart is so appealing to me
dry sluice
just boring to me, 99% of the run is holding right or left, do some menuing, and then hope for good rng
I like breaking the game but this doesn't do it in a fun way imo
so I just went back to nmms after sub 10
dry sluice
nah thats just because everyone in hk community hates glitches regardless of if they're fun or not 
narrow crater
apparently
@solid bough looks like ur splits file is corrupted. try Save as and write to a new file?
or you may need to make it again
also do you have up to date livesplit
solid bough
i made a new file that seems to be working, dont know what went wron giwth the first one
thanks
digital jewel
I think I have a setup vid at least for my timing somewhere
yeah here
it's very awkward and most likely different timing for you based on your loads
I felt at the time like when I entered the load after starting the file mattered a lot for consistency
not sure if that's true
nocturne field
@stray kestrel you're legendary that seemed to solve 90% ofy lag issues
livid stirrup
Any recommendations for split timers for Mac?
livid stirrup
Big mood
cinder bison
thought I was gonna throw at the end but getting close to sub50 
dawn walrus
I'm looking for nosket's hitboxes, anyone who can help me with that? Please
snow dome
You can download a mod that will show you all hit boxes
knotty vigil
Hello everyone, sorry to disturb you, is here the right place to ask for questions concerning speedrunning?
snow dome
This would be it
knotty vigil
Thank you
I'd like to try speedrunning the game, I currently got around 300 hours on it. The thing is idk what run I should start from, the only thing I know is that I want to do a glitchless run. I also play on ps4
Is it a hard game to speedrun?
snow dome
Hard is a relative term, really. What is it you enjoy?
haughty fossil
this game is many people's first speedrun, it's definitely a good place to start from
short spire
the pins have a lot of information you might wanna read through
snow dome
Any% has two quite difficult fights, and a couple of difficult movement tricks. One trick (Queen's Gardens Acid Skip) is very, very difficult.
All Skills though is about making your movement through the game clean. There's only three bits that I felt required me to really practice, and I got them very quickly. The biggest issue is doing some of Deepnest in the dark.
knotty vigil
Thank you a lot. I thought about a 5th pantheon speedrun since I really enjoy learning boss fights. I did all the radiant statues but only the first two pantheons AB
snow dome
Oh, that's dece
You could try a category like any% or all bosses or something.
112% is also cool but probably not a great starting cat. 👀
knotty vigil
Yeah
I thought of starting with an any% glitchless
Also is it a great handicap to play on ps4?
snow dome
Not really. You'll be competing against other PS4 players.
Well, console. I think the board is PS4/Xbox.
knotty vigil
Thank you a lot. I'll read the pins and start training as soon as I can
snow dome
There's resources available in the pins and on speedrun dot com. You'll want to look for things that are either console specific, or say "current patch"/patch 1.4.3.2
knotty vigil
Thanks
snow dome
You can check out the PC Current Patch leaderboards, as it will be the same route also. I strongly recommend Fireborn's guide. Though it is primarily based on patch 1.2.2.1 for PC, there's only a few things that won't be relevant for you (which I think he might point out) and the rest is all incredibly useful and stuff I've used since I started running until today.
Good luck!
knotty vigil
Thank you, I'll try to look at him and to write out a speedrun route
meager current
after school today imma run the game and actually get a valid run
i felt like an idiot last night
jagged vault
also, glitchless isn't really run in hollow knight. NMG or No major Glitches is the most commonly run ruleset, and it's almost the same thing, only allowing some smaller glitches and exploits like the inventory drop and lever skips
meager current
what are lever skips lol
jagged vault
hitting a lever from the unintended side
zenith heart
hitting a lever through a door
meager current
ah
jagged vault
of a gate
meager current
is that even used in any%
jagged vault
yes
meager current
nmg
meager current
im guessing non cp?
meager current
i run cp so
meager current
is it?
snow dome
You can hit the lever going up from blue lake from under the platform
jagged vault
yeah the one in the room after blue lake is still possible
snow dome
So the door is opening while you go around
jagged vault
saves 2 or 3 seconds i'd guess
snow dome
It saves like a second or so
meager current
also i have inv drops semi consistent now
jagged vault
nice!
snow dome
I don't go for the ones in fungal because I just keep dunking when I do get them. 🙃
meager current
same
snow dome
Oh yeah, there's no 'no glitches' category or anything. NMG is the closest we have.
short spire
glitchless would probably be the hardest category to complete a run in
just cause it's very hard to not accidentally break this game in some way
zenith heart
and for someone who is used to do inventory drop everywhere that would be a nightmare
"sorry, you used it when falling from queen's garden to deepnest, the run is invalid"
snow dome
You got air walk in kings pass and, even though it did nothing, your run is invalid.
knotty vigil
just cause it's very hard to not accidentally break this game in some way
Loool
I tried doing the inventory drop on ps4 a lot of times but I never got it
knotty vigil
Sorry but is it possible to use the debug mode on ps4?
snow dome
Sadly, no
You can only mod the steam and gog version.
If you're trying to do practice then there's a couple of tricks you can do to help, but mostly you will need to use a flash drive to make a save at the point you want to practice and keep reloading that save.
Which can be a butt for the shorter sections, but there's a few things that you can do that are not that in specific sections. (Like the Watcher Knights fight, for example)
open pebble
hello people, i decided to attemp a speedrun on game in 5 hours and saw a guide. What does bench/ toll means
leaden python
toll is the thing you insert your geo in to buy a bench/stag
open pebble
toll is the thing you insert your geo in to buy a bench/stag
thx
knotty vigil
Which can be a butt for the shorter sections, but there's a few things that you ...
Oh thank you
Also a thing I'm not sure about. The inventory drop glitch is pc only, am I right?
jagged vault
it got kind of patched out after 1.2.2.1
emphasis on kinda
you can still do it if you open your inventory on the same physics frame you step off a ledge
so that's a 1/50th of a second imput
since the physics framerate is 50fps in HK
steady lynx
Somehow easier than it sounds
jagged vault
this does mean that you are locked to doing it from ledges only
knotty vigil
since the physics framerate is 50fps in HK
Oh God
I've got HK on pc too and it seems way more easier to speedrun with all the comfy programs, so maybe I'll try speedrunning on it even tho I'm not really good on pc
meager current
if you can plug in a controller its easier if you used to play on console
dim fiber
why is everyone running all skills recently?
haughty fossil
upcoming tournament
jagged vault
yeah there's a tournament starting early-mid february
it's going to be hosted on the Speedgaming twitch channels
jagged vault
https://smash.gg/tournament/hollow-knight-all-skills-nmg-community-tournament/details if you want to sign up or just get more info
the schedule and similar info will come out as signups close probably
knotty vigil
if you can plug in a controller its easier if you used to play on console
Yeah I think I'm gonna try to do that since it's way too better
It's just I'm not really used to play on a lil screen sadly
frosty fractal
Yesterday I got a run to the HK on pace to PB, but then lost it to massive lag spikes in the fight, I have had this happen once before and my game has only ever laged when speedrunning and on the HK. Anyone know if there's anything I can do to prevent this?
hearty adder
What patch do you play in? what recording software do you use?
frosty fractal
Current patch, streamlabs
hearty adder
I have no experience with streamlabs, but if it's something that only happens when speedrunning and on THK then it could potentially be a gpu thing?
frosty fractal
Maybe, I have some background applications I can try closing and hope it helps
frigid rapids
did the problem ever happen when you don't record your game?
frosty fractal
Not if I'm remembering correctly, recording causing it would make sense since I only record when doing a run
haughty fossil
slobs bad obs studio good
but in seriousness, if your cpu util is too high you should consider switching, SLOBS has a massive overhead in comparison
frigid rapids
cause i know some runners had a problem with SLOBS suddenly making THK lag like crazy
haughty fossil
i switched because of constant fps issues, i have only rare drops now. might also be worth looking into your encoding settings to make sure you're not putting unnecessary strain on anything
frigid rapids
I can't recommend OBS Studio enough, yeah, to me the only advantage SLOBS gives is being able to modify alerts from your recording software, but apart from that it's way more resource heavy
ah and also the popup window which lets you change stream title and game when you click start streaming is neat
(gotta give SLOBS at least alittle bit of credit)
frosty fractal
Ah alright I didn't realize that, I'll try OBS studio next time
haughty fossil
any docks
frosty fractal
Docks?
haughty fossil
obs studio supports docking browser windows, so you can basically do everything on twitch from it
frosty fractal
Oh I see
frigid rapids
any docks
the dock is different from the popup window, it's easier to forget to change your stream title with the former
i said i had to give SLOBS a little bit of credit, not actual credit
frosty fractal
Lol, thanks for the help though, hopefully this will reduce any future lag
pure vault
slobs broke for windows7 right as I was getting used to it and now I hate it forever lol
but OBS Studio is sick
frigid rapids
Lol, thanks for the help though, hopefully this will reduce any future lag
np, let's hope it fixes your problem
sharp granite
so for some reason I cant mod 1.2.2.1 installs of Hollow Knight just the original steam install. so I can't use debug to practice any% nmg on 1221
haughty fossil
are you trying to use modinstaller to do so?
because modinstaller is current patch only
haughty fossil
yes
sharp granite
damn
alright
thank you
also how to fireball skip?
I am coming so close to doing it but idk what I'm messing up
limpid ruin
full hop as late as possible, turn around sometime after apex, and fb with quickcast
sharp granite
its two quick casts in the opposite direction then go in the direction you want?
limpid ruin
which direction depends on the individual skip, but ideally you want to turn around fb x2 (without holding any directions while turned around) then during 2nd fb press hte direction youre going in again
sharp granite
okay so during the second fireball
gotcha
are you allowed to have Quality of Life on during a speedrun attempt or no?
limpid ruin
No
pure vault
no we’re not
limpid ruin
only for HKmods runs
sharp granite
okay I thought so
limpid ruin
or rather: the specific hkmods category for qol
sharp granite
I heard somewhere that you could but it didnt sound right
hearty adder
you're not even allowed to have the moddingapi installed
so people usually have two separate versions of the same patch
sharp granite
yeah I have two seperate 1221s
stray kestrel
Any%?
sharp granite
well...
meager current
Any% nmg
sharp granite
controller isnt working on my 1221
meager current
And I don't have modding API installed like last time
sharp granite
do I just have to do joytokey or is there a way to do it?
stray kestrel
controller isnt working on my 1221
You need to clear your registry
sharp granite
???
limpid ruin
is it switch pro?
sharp granite
ps4
limpid ruin
yea, theres a section in the downpatching guide on how to clear registry
id try that
stray kestrel
Also make sure native controller input is off
limpid ruin
in the settings menu
sharp granite
it is off
I cleared the registry and made sure the native input is off and 1221 still wont recognize my controller
gusty holly
how many liars have you encountered here?
stray kestrel
Does it work with keyboard? Like can you menu and stuff with the arrow keys
meager current
how many liars have you encountered here?
?
sharp granite
Does it work with keyboard? Like can you menu and stuff with the arrow keys
yup that works fine
stray kestrel
And your controller's dpad and joystick don't work?
sharp granite
nope
or the buttons
wait wtf
its working now...?
I mean
okay
also with the live split auto thing will it automatically split when I get to the certain moments
meager current
If its on and you have set the autosplits up correct, yes
sharp granite
why is this happening?
carmine yew
Is the timer not starting when you select the file or what is the problem?
formal bough
what is wrong on this screen?
carmine yew
The dashes are because you don’t have any times yet if that’s the confusion
short spire
if you mean the blank space
sharp granite
if you mean the blank space
thank you
limpid ruin
if you check your splits editor (right click on livesplit) you can check rta tab
short spire
the loadless timer must be running on screen the whole time in the recording
meager current
And it is
limpid ruin
its preferable if you add it in the submission, but you dont need to no. We can get those from timestamps
short spire
i cannot read
meager current
Timestamps?
limpid ruin
yea, like looking at the hh:mm:ss in the video the timer starts and stops
meager current
Ah
Do I need to add the timestamps to the video or do you guys just pause it right when the timer starts/stops to check
short spire
just check the time from the splits like cerpin mentioned at first and put that in the submission
you don't need to do anything with the video
meager current
Ok
Wait uhh
I was looking in the splits edittor
Is it fine if the run timer only has 'any% 1.4.3.2' instead of 'any% (1.4.3.2, No major glitches') ?
short spire
yeah
meager current
In the recording
meager current
I can't find the rta stuff
limpid ruin
and even that is technically optional as you can still have it submitted as just realtime (rta)
that one
meager current
Ok found it
limpid ruin
and grab the time from the last split time, and ignore adding milliseconds on the submissions, as we dont use those anyway
meager current
With loads is 1:27:24:93
limpid ruin
1:27:24* bc no milliseconds
sharp granite
how do I bind save states and loadstates
meager current
There is a ms on the time with loads thing on the submission page
Doesn't that mean milliseconds?
limpid ruin
you have to press the white circle/dot and click the keys you want
sharp granite
thank you
limpid ruin
yea, s6, but you can leave the field blank
meager current
I'll just keep it lol
Sd processing of the video is almost done
YouTube speed up please
sharp granite
okay so uhh
meager current
What's this 'splits I/o' thing
sharp granite
now the controller wont work again now that I reinstalled the debug mod after it messed up
digital jewel
splits.io is a site you can upload your splits file to in order to get some data analysis on it
sharp granite
okay nvmd
meager current
Ok
meager current
So that box I just leave empty?
meager current
Run is submitted
Now I just gotta wait
And hope it's not invalidated by something lol
quick meteor
is there any issue with using mods like custom knight during a modded speedrun? (like impossible any%?)
quick meteor
😦
sharp granite
not sure tho
limpid ruin
I think custom knight is allowed
quick meteor
😮
cinder bison
could someone remind me the name of the thing that lets you start holding down left/right before you let go of the other
limpid ruin
check the category rules to be sure tho
viscid dust
i tried my second speedrun on steel soul, i made it to the mantis village and my dumbass fell right into a mantis just standing there
1:10 more or less
quick meteor
theres no category for impossible any% in the mods section on speedrun.com
twin swallow
yet
true hound
are there any tips for doing fireball skips? im trying to learn the first fireball skip past the ||greenpath baldur|| and I make it like one every six times. i cant get it to be consistent
limpid ruin
make sure you delay your turnaround until waaay after apex of the full jump
quick meteor
^
and make sure you dont start your jump too early off the ledge, thatll just make it harder
cinder bison
there's a plugin someone mentioned before thats allowed and lets u start inputting left/right before letting go the other to help w fireball
can't remember what it was called
true hound
oh, ive been doing the turnaround right at the apex
pressing quick cast and right for a split second and turning back
limpid ruin
yea, the main thing about that fb skip is stopping your fall speed, so that you reach the ground slower, and not the fb pushback
short spire
did you just put the word greenpath baldur in spoilers in the speedrun channel
quick meteor
LOL
true hound
sorry lol
short spire
nah it was just funny lol
quick meteor
^
only have 500 hours on steam, absolutely FUMING that greenpath got spoiled for me
😛
true hound
lol
rugged crow
it makes sense, we dont want to spoil ||kings pass|| for new players.
true hound
thats like ||late game||content
thorn jasper
you should have put your profile pic in spoilers first
meager current
Why does speedrun.com say my run claims to be 289th on the any% nmg cp leaderboard but when I actually check the leaderboard where my runs time is it's like 117th
It's not on the leaderboard yet mind you
Just some weird stuff I found with the numbers
rugged crow
probably just src being weird because its not accepted yet
jagged vault
my guess is that it gets sorted into CP boards by mods
meager current
Ok
jagged vault
while unverified it just counts it as "Any% NMG done on 1.4.3.2
meager current
I wonder which lucky speedrun.com mod gets to verify my run
Best hour and almost a half of their life 
limpid ruin
this is why 
meager current
Damn it
limpid ruin
(edited it for you, nw)
limpid ruin
ofc, im a verifier
meager current
Ye ik I saw
I'm now terrified whether it's invalid in some way I didn't notice
Also I had a bad kings pass lol
Missed vengefly pogo
And went for a bunch of Inv drops too early
And lost like 5 seconds total off of that alone
limpid ruin
we all have bad KPs, dont even worry about it 