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torpid pollen
haughty fossil
the video is also smaller on a phone
limpid ruin
Its still the same amount of pixels in software, its just spread over more pixels on a smaller screen
so less aliasing et al, but if something just isnt viewable using a smaller screen wont help 
haughty fossil
try changing the capture mode for your source in obs
low trellis
at the programm i see it but on video it looks like lens
on place where is livesplit
limpid ruin
can you upload like a 5 second clip of what you mean?
low trellis
hmm
5 -10 min
I guess it cathes normally when livesplit above hollow knight
so i downloaded program that get livesplit above
and it works
sometimes programm isnt need
i guess it is random
sometimes livesplit gets above, sometimes not
now it above
stuck raptor
- turn off fullscreen in game options
- add "-popupscreen" to game launch options in steam or GoG
- make sure "always on top" option on livesplit is selected
low trellis
so i get it
ionic sparrow
pressing alt+enter also switches applications from fullscreen to windowed
toggles between the two rather
limpid ruin
it looks like lens
Like mick and pest said, do this:
- turn off fullscreen in game options OR pressing alt+enter in-game
- add "-popupscreen" to game launch options in steam or GoG
- make sure "always on top" option on livesplit is selected
low trellis
GoG is what?
stuck raptor
a game store
digital jewel
limpid ruin
that sounds unlikely
low trellis
dont understand
haughty fossil
steam does very little at runtime comparative to how much the game does
unless you're letting steam download updates in the background or something it has almost no perf impact
low trellis
now i try your advices on steam version
versed elbow
Hi, I'm new. I'm just curious if I can watch Fireb0rn's tutorial videos for NMG if I'm on console with current patch?
He mentions downpatching to 1.2.2.1 or whichever patch is the most optimal which I obviously cannot do.
versed elbow
carmine yew
They will still be very helpful yes
snow dome
Some of the things in there won't be quite right, but most of it will be
The main differences are Explosion Pogo, Watcher's Spire Lever Skip, and Uumuu.
neon island
You cannot inventory drop in midair, thorn warps have been patched, and you won't be able to do minor glitches.
snow dome
E-Pogo is very, very different.
Spire Lever Skip is impossible and you need to kill the Husk Guard.
Uumuu has more health so you can't kill it in two cycles
neon island
Inventory drops will have to be as you walk off a ledge, you have a 1/50 frame window to do it
Does Uumuu have more health?
I thought it was just that he bounces around more
raven holly
Uumuu doesn't have more health he's just harder to get the 150 damage cycle on
snow dome
Oh, okay. I always thought it was just increased health and didn't get stuck
haughty fossil
its just the latter
versed elbow
That explains quite a bit. I watched one of the runs when I started having the idea to try running the game and I was wondering why I couldn't emulate the inventory drop thing into casual play
limpid ruin
You cannot inventory drop in midair, thorn warps have been patched, and you won'...
qg thorn hazard respawn* has been fixed, that way allie wont get mad at us
versed elbow
Is there a secondary option to explosion pogo in spots where it's used?
raven holly
There is a version of explosion pogo for current patch, but most people just go around and get into mantis village the other way
limpid ruin
there's two versions, one is "free" you just have to turn on vsync and preferably have a 60fps screen (which you probably do), or play on console (i think?)
the other is called pantapogo, and has a couple guide vids in #resources right now, but no point in grinding that for console based on input handling ive heard
versed elbow
I play on Xbox One X
limpid ruin
the "free" version has a guide in the pins here, from emray. Its on switch, but might work on xbonex?
versed elbow
Yes
raven holly
Don't worry about doing epogo right away to start with, but it's worth learning in the future when you want to go super speed
steady lynx
switch version works on all consoles since they all run the game at around 60fps
cinder bison
any benefit to going 60fps specifically or u just want it to be low?
steady lynx
switch dips to 40 in some rooms tho
haughty fossil
60fps gives more knockback
limpid ruin
^
haughty fossil
which allows cp epogo to work
limpid ruin
low fps makes pushback push more back
steady lynx
knockback is fps dependant 
🍝
jagged vault
technically yes
limpid ruin
I think, but itd be even more painful as well
steady lynx
The horrible rate switch runs the game at makes the trick very free
Even I can do it consistently and I suck at the game
steady lynx
Xbox has faster loads
haughty fossil
the game feels horrible at 60fps, worse at lower fps
steady lynx
They are different categories anyway
versed elbow
Doesn't the game have an auto-splitter that cuts out loads?
steady lynx
Only for PC
sturdy drum
cries in 2 runs just ended to pantapogo
versed elbow
I do have Livesplits from when I ran Super Mario Odyssey
Ohh
That only works on PC?
haughty fossil
the difference between 60 and 40fps is heavily noticable
raven holly
Yeah no autosplitter for consoles unfortunately
vagrant tree
hello, im new here and want to start speedrunning 112%. which of the channels do i go into for that?
vagrant tree
thank you very much
steady lynx
You can't type there without blue name which requires submitted run on src
ionic sparrow
src has the guides for 1xx categories
steady lynx
Might be a bit outdated
vagrant tree
ok. ill go check it out. thanks again
versed elbow
Is there a reason for me to run Livesplits for it then? Because I know the game gives you a time it took screen after you beat it.
haughty fossil
in game time doesn't work
steady lynx
valignatev's most recently finished run uses whichever route is currently used for 112
raven holly
In game timer is poopoo
versed elbow
So, Livesplits still best friend? Sweet
haughty fossil
livesplit is best friend always
versed elbow
Yea, if Odyssey taught me one thing it was that
leaden python
I would rather look at Monstah's latest 112 PB highlighted on twitch (it's not on src). It has all the recent stuff
cinder bison
ah ok
leaden python
Just watch through it and make your notes
steady lynx
Including storerooms bench?
leaden python
yes
and dreamgate skip before Cornifer's room in Greenpath
it doesn't have clockwise KE and late gruz, but it's like not a huge deal at all
steady lynx
Still not gonna do that on switch, feels like it'd be slower due to real time
leaden python
oh yeah, I can imagine that 1 dg on switch should be faster than 2 room loads
limpid ruin
i see kal, is this a new PoP rekky? 👀
leaden python
pausechamp
steady lynx
I'm not gonna spend too much time timing it since I'm the only one who runs console 112 anyway
leaden python
I'm pretty sure your intuition is correct Gusten
dusk timber
@limpid ruin 
leaden python
not doing DG is faster by a bit more than a second, so RTA would probably be slower
faster by like 2 seconds if you're a gamer
*loadless
vagrant tree
what is the best way to record a run so it can be verified on the leaderboards
leaden python
PC or consoles Kraken?
vagrant tree
pc
steady lynx
Yeah, can't imagine it being faster real time then
versed elbow
You got OBS?
vagrant tree
no
haughty fossil
obs.
leaden python
steady lynx
I'd still have to see the sanctum bench stuff but four extra loading zones, that's like 12 seconds
leaden python
4? Isn't that only 3 extra?
hexed bobcat
Hi, referring to the part of the pinned message that mentions a lack of support for switch controllers in older patches of HK I was wondering if anyone had come up with a workaround to fix this? I've been attempting to make it work for the past half hour using a program that disguises the controller as an Xbox variant and both my OS and Steam are reading it as an Xbox controller yet HK still refuses to recognise it. I've also tested other games that don't support switch controllers and they've worked fine with the program, so seeing as this appears to be a HK specific problem for whatever reason I thought perhaps someone may know of some sort of solution.
haughty fossil
joytokey works
limpid ruin
oh yea blamblam, you can use an xinput reader of some sort to make the pc think its a keyboard
(or xbox controller)
steady lynx
Storeroom, shaft, zote room, sanctum
leaden python
ah yeah, it's four cuz you wait for the bench
haughty fossil
i tried x360ce, didn't work for me
leaden python
you don't exit/enter the room for the bench because waiting is faster RTA, right?
rugged crow
learn keyboard 
steady lynx
For that bench waiting is faster
leaden python
yeah, makes sense
hexed bobcat
Ah I see I've been using x360ce so far so I'll try joytokey, thanks for the tip. I don't own an xbox controller and using keyboard has been hurting my hand tbh lol
limpid ruin
joy2key or antimicro might work
steady lynx
In Basin and QG it's fastest to reload
leaden python
have you tried bench lookdown?
leaden python
idk cues, but I sometimes getting it randomly while going for it during practice 
rando people def know what to do
limpid ruin
isnt it just timing so your look down/back up animations line up with the toll/bench animations?
leaden python
steady lynx
Does anyone have a video of it?
dusk timber
joy2key or antimicro might work
how about ds4windows?
limpid ruin
ds4windows is also an alternative
leaden python
ds4windows is really good
dusk timber
i wish ds4 windows would let users remap the touchpad that's on the dualshock
digital jewel
does ds4windows work for switch pro controller?
leaden python
why would ds4windows work for switch pro controllers? It's for playstation controllers
burnt grove
switch dips to 40 in some rooms tho
Wow I need to pay attention better. Which rooms?
steady lynx
You barely notice it because switch does frame advancing in a way to mask it but the effective game framerate becomes 40 in some big rooms with lots of enemies
burnt grove
I have the game on Switch and Xbox (Thanks Gamepass)
I would run on the one that feels better. There's a lot that determines input and output delay, but it's hard to quantify, so I would go by feel.
burnt grove
I'm not gonna spend too much time timing it since I'm the only one who runs cons...
I don't know what/if @jade elm runs on switch now, but I know he's given a lot of thought to avoiding save warping
steady lynx
Dad has done some 107 runs but he's said he doesn't have time for the 4.5 hour run
flat hamlet
Still having trouble getting fireball skips, need more practice
limpid ruin
i dont have hands for it 
deft obsidian
does anyone know how to remove the timer that says -2:18?
limpid ruin
In your layout settings somewhere, probably under the splits component
jade elm
1xx runs take an eternity. One day I will have more time. 💪
small magnet
@flat hamlet biggest mood.
versed elbow
So, I'm guessing the part of this run that takes the most time is learning routing?
Then after that it's just learning skips and such for optimization.
limpid ruin
Learning takes the most, and practicing takes the most, and running takes however much you give it
versed elbow
I'm willing to put some time into this. I'm not really playing any other games and I really enjoy speedrunning.
I started with Monster Hunter speedrunning, then wanted to learn full game speedruns and started with Super Mario Odyssey and grinded that for like 3+ months, and now I'm here in Hollow Knight very interested in the run.
limpid ruin
But yea, the initial learning is mostly learning the route. Just watching, making notes, doing no expectation no resets help a lot with that part
If you're already comfortable with basic mechanics, mixing in skips and optimal strats etc fits in well
(learning optimal strats right off the bat might be bad just bc it puts you in a worse spot for when everything goes to crap (which)will happen), but sometimes they make stuff a lot easier as well)
Other game experience is also good for mindset and knowing yourself
versed elbow
Yea, whenever I start learning a run I never reset. I kinda run with the mindset of I always wanna be playing my late game splits the best because if I have a good early and mid game I'm not inexperienced or out of practice with late game due to resetting too much.
leaden python
It's definitely an individual thing. If you don't mind delaying instant gratification of a finished run, you might start with learning proper strats right away (like I did). If you know you'll burn out without fast results then just do runs after practicing roadblocks. I don't think that either of those is inherently better or worse long-term
As long as you're having fun (tm)
limpid ruin
Vali summed up how to make the choices amazingly there
versed elbow
I like doing an initial run, then learning more strats, practicing stuff I struggled with, and just improving my basic skills.
Obviously if you've only done a casual playthrough, which is all I've done, you don't really know how you'll fair in a speedrun. I find it kinda valuable to learn what my baseline is, then try to get a better grasp on what I'll need to work on to improve.
limpid ruin
Yea, that's a good way to find the biggest hurdles for sure
Can't really know what to work on the most if you don't know what level you're at
mighty trellis
don't know if i should say this here but i did torch game
short spire
gg
flat hamlet
SO I'm just starting out, if I fail an important trick like greenpath skip, should I just keep going or reset?
flat hamlet
So just go through Greenpath normally?
uneven scarab
there are backups if you miss either one
uneven scarab
for the first you basically just pogo the fly to the right
uneven scarab
yeah, just lure him over
grizzled maple
i have a video brb
haughty fossil
grizzled maple
haughty fossil
old video don't mind scuffed movement and layout 🥴
uneven scarab
it's very common to fail either skip when you're first starting out
grizzled maple
you just hop over to the right just to agro them immediately get into position. youll need to hop a little bit to agro him a little higher
thats it
flat hamlet
and the second fireball skip is just a faster route through that one room
grizzled maple
its super super easy
haughty fossil
why is his name eric 
uneven scarab
I still usually only get one of the two
grizzled maple
i called him that two years ago and it stuck idk lol
and this is the back up for the 2nd one
https://youtu.be/nHf1UgxvVFU
its a little harder but you can literally just go around anyway so
uneven scarab
Eric, jennifer, who else is named?
haughty fossil
em im pretty sure that one's only consistent on cp because of spawn positions?
flat hamlet
I mean, if you fail the skip, you can just... go right
grizzled maple
oh heck maybe i did do this on 1432
grizzled maple
that skip still saves about 4 seconds though
grizzled maple
so like if he is left, its good to know how to do it
haughty fossil
you can just go but the backup only loses 1-2s to the fb skip, as opposed to like 10 going around
grizzled maple
i made a bunch of these videos when i helped relyea learn any% for real
if you wanna see that doc with all those videos: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10aXiOYQu-SLQlsyb5TTBfqFT8fNmBjyPJH7gJC8u_bk
it explains a lot of small things in detail
flat hamlet
Thanks, I'll look through that
small magnet
Yeah, I've watched so many guides that don't really go over what to do when you miss a "mandatory" skip
That's awesome, Emray, thanks 😄
flat hamlet
How do people do splits on Console?
grizzled maple
console is just manual
flat hamlet
How do you not lose time doing that?
grizzled maple
console has its own leaderboard where it compares only to itself and is timed real time
ps4 and xbone have similar specs so theyre on the same board and switch is a toaster oven so its alone
flat hamlet
The switch time is currently faster
steady lynx
PS4 and Xbone having faster loads does not show on the leaderboards
digital jewel
ps4 should be a few minutes faster than switch I think
grizzled maple
switch has potato loads, it was just run more
steady lynx
Well, time to move to PS4 112%, wonder what the WR for that is like
grizzled maple
has it even been run? lol
steady lynx
oh..
grizzled maple
i probably wouldve done those too when i ran all the switch runs but we dont own either console
steady lynx
grizzled maple
christ lmao
steady lynx
Idk if I can beat that
grizzled maple
welp get to work gusten
hallow orchid
how's the input lag on ps4/xbone?
steady lynx
Hey, lemme work for the switch 112 WR first, then I can take that so I can say I have the most 112% APB WR's in Hollow Knight
grizzled maple
probably similar to switch considering its caused by the 60 fps lock
it doesnt feel "delayed" as much as i can best explain it like feeling like playing the game underwater
steady lynx
I do wonder if the PS4 version would load faster on PS5 though, or run better at least?
grizzled maple
like picture yourself as a little kid playing in a pool, you sink to the bottom and play pretend underwater, like a tea party or something. and pc hk is like doing it on dry land
its the same, it just feels slooooow
heavy even
flat hamlet
Uhh, I can't find the splits for NMG any %...
I could just try and remember them myself, but that sounds like a lot of work
hallow orchid
yeah that's a pretty good description. vsync feels like that too, but even worse. I went back to finish my casual switch file a week or so ago and it was tough
digital jewel
yeah it might be faster on ps5/xseriesx
since it's impossible to buy one nobody can test it
flat hamlet
I've only ever played the game on console
steady lynx
Then it's a non-issue for the leaderboard 
flat hamlet
And I don't have a gaming pc
digital jewel
as soon as 1 person does a run we could time the loads and separate if we need to
grizzled maple
i do know of one person who played the game casually recently on ps5
laserbelch if thats how you spell it
hes a kaizo guy
flat hamlet
Is there Hollow Knight Kaizo?
flat hamlet
How hard is it?
steady lynx
Imma be honest, I looked up PS5 and I'm not sure if it's been released in Sweden yet
flat hamlet
Path of Pain was easy
grizzled maple
hallow orchid
it's much, much harder than PoP
grizzled maple
i wish there was a penalty for scalping, but alas capitalism
steady lynx
Wait, if it has significantly better loads will you just make it another console variant category?
grizzled maple
yeah i imagine the new consoles would be their own subcat if the loads were noticeably better (they probably are)
digital jewel
yeah
steady lynx
That's three 112% categories to go for then
digital jewel
grizzled maple
whens pc tho
digital jewel
just have to buy 2 different generations of the same console
steady lynx
When I'm as good as Monstah 
grizzled maple
i really wanna make an in depth 112 guide but valigna keeps breaking things and i cant keep up 
steady lynx
My sister's bf will probably get a PS5 so I could just borrow it, do one run and then never talk about it again
grave kernel
does fps affect QGA in any way that matters?
digital jewel
it affects how much input lag you have in general
should only be a noticeable issue below 100fps or so
grave kernel
okay then thats no issue
does cdash buffer? I keep sliding in when I try doing the dash method over the mash one
digital jewel
no it doesn't
grave kernel
ah that would do it
digital jewel
if you try to start cdash when you're too high on the wall, you'll just slide into the acid
grave kernel
got it, thanks
real flame
new pb
wild ember
hello, is there a guide somewhere, which gives strategies on how to beat bosses quickly? for example the scream skip for collector, or other strategies for various bosses how to kill them fast?
sorry if this does not belong here, im new..
burnt grove
i called him that two years ago and it stuck idk lol
I thought Eric came from this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ftomw87g61Y
grizzled maple
i dont know what that is tbh
snow dome
hello, is there a guide somewhere, which gives strategies on how to beat bosses ...
You will want to check a guide for the specific category you're running
wild ember
I had a look at the 112% category guide on speedrun.com but they don't go into the fights detailed
grizzled maple
its kind of outdated at this point anyway
best option is to just watch the most recent runs (not even the best or fastest) just to know what changed, and ask specific questions about fights etc here
wild ember
Alright thank you!😀
cold geyser
finished my third run of All Skills
1:42 this time
still hot trash, but im getting better!
forest flume
finished my second run of All Skills while racing the above guy
1:53
still hot trash, but im getting better!
dull lion
?rank randomizer racer
sick ravenBOT
@dull lion, you joined Randomizer Racer.
leaden python
can I pwease have speed runner role?
🥺
👉👈
<@&284848710960021504> give the role
polar nimbus
i would also like the role pwetty pwease
dawn walrus
Look what I found https://clips.twitch.tv/ConcernedStrangeCurlewYouDontSay
I kill myself with spikes as the same time next battle was starting. Not only I enter next fight, this happened when I really die
Now I can move after pausing/open inventory
thorn jasper
i would also like the role pwetty pwease
I recommend linking the run
stray kestrel
category extensions count for the role too right
https://www.speedrun.com/hkmemes/run/ylvgg83m
grizzled maple
Yep
cinder bison
what do yall use for keyboard capture?
haughty fossil
nohboard is pretty good
grave kernel
practicing QGA and have gotten it fairly consistently, but am having to do this little 3 tap on cdash
heres inputs
cant seem to get it on a single cdash press, just slide into the acid
normal aspen
Try dashing into a wall and starting cdash in one press without losing height. From what you're saying u r prob pressing cdash early. You need to let the dash animation finish, even if you start the dash super close to the wall.
median gull
You are probably pressing cdash too early as somni already said, but if your triple tap is working perfectly, I don't see why would you change it
normal aspen
Beyond that in the clip u dash into the wall a little high too.
grave kernel
inconsistency since its a half key press
if I bottom out the key I slide, so I would rather have it in one press
grave kernel
alright, thanks
analog monolith
help
how do i improve this
this was like the best 3-fight run i had the entire time i was doing practice
this is with upgraded nail btw because i can not imagine doing it with nail 0
(and no i do not have a finished run as i haven't actually beaten the game yet)
analog monolith
not yet lemme look
jagged vault
fireborn has an episode on his guide series dedicated to watchers too
so watching both those might be good idea
after that, practice practice practice
analog monolith
hmm yeah
i'm watching this, i generally figured out the 3-hit pattern myself but assumed it was really only applicable to singular knight
thanks for the resources, i'll check them out :)
viral gazelle
hey, I was playing casually when I found a strange glitch, not sure if it has been discovered/tested in a speedrun (sorry if it has), but Im sending here to make sure, I dont speedrun the game myself, so I really dont know - https://youtu.be/yLeFFrLYNhU this is current patch 🙂
normal aspen
its a known glitch called televator. It's banned in the nmg ruleset but it is used in glitched runs
viral gazelle
oh, ok, thanks
torpid pollen
so its a major glitch?
normal aspen
yeah unfortunately
torpid pollen
damn
normal aspen
#legalisetelevator
torpid pollen
we should start a movement
frigid rapids
also it's way easier on older patches, they tried to patch it so i'm not even sure it's doable on current patch without a charm increasing your nail range
torpid pollen
why would you run on 1315
normal aspen
Lifeblood speedruns I think
zinc cairn
Ah, i thought going to City first could improve my time, now i have no idea what can i do to cut just a few mins from this run
i seem to do almost everything perfectly, but i have so damn slow soul sanctum
zenith sorrel
<@&283547423706447872>
zinc cairn
Ayy
potent mountain
i see
zinc cairn
was faster xd
dim swallow
we go t it
verbal stag
missed hk-meme
potent mountain
banning purges their chat
zinc cairn
So umm, coming back to my run if anyone did elderbug% i would love to hear some extra tips beside git gud at soul sanctum hah
And if it's faster to go to city after mantis claw or after shade skip
limpid ruin
have you watched under's and kanra's PBs?
just intuitively feel like theyd help. but they might not :p
zinc cairn
i haven't
limpid ruin
also I think you have a valid run now so you can request speedrunner role and ask in #misc-runs-nmg to have a more focused channel for it?
then defo watch those two 👀
zenith sorrel
for elderbug you probably want to watch ax's run
limpid ruin
OH
zinc cairn
Oh yeah, they verified both of my runs few hours ago but i haven't seen the speedrun mods on discord now so i wanted to just ask it later
limpid ruin
frick sorry I misread as Elegy% 
for elderbug%, gitting gud at sanctum isnt too bad tbh
set up a savestate right before big rooms/parts of it
and repeatedly go through it
zinc cairn
I think i have pretty decent first part of it (to soul warrior fight) but after that i have to play a little more safe
also soul master is so slow without shaman stone and idk if i should just go for it
because it seems i have enough geo both for that and stag
fading fern
Yeah my brain completely forgot Isma's Tear skip 
I've relearned the spike pogo but my brain forgot how to do the second acid skip, to get to the actual Tear Chamber
steady lynx
Line up the knight's eye with a rock on the wall
fading fern
The big rock under the tiny rock or that little tiny rock poking out?
sick ravenBOT
That rank doesn't exist.
true hound
is there an all glitches speedrun channel?
normal aspen
true hound
thank you! but for some reason I can't type there. how do i gain access, or is it a time limit?
verbal stag
you need to have a verified run on speedrun.com before you can chat in the speedrun channels
true hound
oh ok thank you!
dusky grove
hi, i created multiple version of the game to practice on 1221, did everything as the guide shows but when i want to launch the 1221, steam automaticly opens and wants to download HK, i dont have that issue with 1432 modded version, is there something i did wrong?
limpid ruin
did you add the steam_appid.txt (or whatever it was called)?
dusky grove
yes i did
but didnt add the game to steam as a non-steam game
i find out that i can still run the game in admin once steam is open, but as i said, i dont have that issue with the 1432 version wich i did the exact same process to copy the game so i can have a 1432 vanilla, 1432 modded etc etc
dusky grove
this folder @snow dome ?
inner trench
Lets say I'm going for speedrun 2. How do I beat watcher knights without taking 4 hours to do so?
leaden python
In order to beat watcher knights for speedrun 2 achievement you need to read pins of this channel that will point you to the speedrun achievos guide. All additional questions should be directed to #hk-help , because this channel is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion
normal aspen
?srpsa
sick ravenBOT
Reminder: This category is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
normal aspen
Here is the guide
inner trench
Ok
twin swallow
What is considered a "normal" type of speedrunning?
twin swallow
So you mean are there glitched speedruns? Or
haughty fossil
hey dude, just because my run isn't wr it isnt weird.... right?????
wraith smelt
No in glitch speed running you have to glitch
limpid ruin
there are two in-game achievements, which are not part of the competitive speedrunning scope
glitches doesnt make it unnormal
wraith smelt
Also can I talk about voidheart edition here I only have voidheart edition
limpid ruin
If you speedrun it with the intention of submitting to the src boards, yes
twin swallow
I asked what normal was and you said glitchless, so by definition glitches are weird to you
wraith smelt
Nah it isn’t I was trolling
limpid ruin
yea, dont introduce yourself with trolling, thats a bad first impression to give
wraith smelt
Ik I just do it usually
steady lynx
Voidheart edition has literally no difference to normal 1.4.3.2 except title screen
limpid ruin
its switch only tho, i think?
wraith smelt
I feel like I am ||drunk||
steady lynx
PS4 only iirc
wraith smelt
Also voidheart edition is for XBox as well
haughty fossil
does voidheart edition even have a different title screen? i've never seen it 
limpid ruin
and console speedrun tips and help stuff can go in here
neon island
v1.4.3.3?
steady lynx
Is it different in Chinese as well?
digital jewel
yeah it is
steady lynx
1.4.3.3 is literally just adding the different title screen
neon island
Oh
steady lynx
I only have two copies of the switch version, GoG and normal PS4 digital
I think that cartridge either boots a 1.3 patch or 1.4.2.4
haughty fossil
switch can downpatch to lifeblood
steady lynx
So if I ever wanna do all bindings runs on switch and it boots 1.4.2.4 I know where it's at
civic cairn
any tips for a godhome ending srun
steady lynx
Pray
civic cairn
thats it??????????????
jagged vault
it's incredibly difficult
rugged crow
practice, there's not really any "do this and everytime you will get it" tips for it
steady lynx
Not even Skurry could finish five masks
jagged vault
if you're just starting out i'd recommend any% or All skills
civic cairn
ok
neon island
if you're just starting out i'd recommend any% or All skills
^
Both are really fun cats
dull birch
^This absolutely.
grizzled maple
I came back to it after getting the sub 3:30 on pc. Literally the 3rd best at panths at the time. And I never finished a run of it
It is the single hardest category in hk
jagged vault
but generally, just as other categories, watching how other people do it in their runs and practicing always helps
civic cairn
ok well then any skips i can do for any precent
steady lynx
P5 in that category is a bit easier than all bindings normally
dull birch
Check the pins, there are tutorials and guides there :)
jagged vault
i'd reccommend you watch fireb0rn's tutorial series for the category
civic cairn
ok
dull birch
Fireb0rn has a good any% Tut as well
civic cairn
how do you get speedrun rank
steady lynx
Get a speedrun submitted on src
jagged vault
have a submitted run on srcom
dull birch
Submit it speedrun.com and have it verified
steady lynx
Under HK, HKmemes or HKmods
civic cairn
ok
steady lynx
If you want it fast just do a four mask shard run and submit that
grizzled maple
KP ILs exist
Granted I'm never a fan of someone just wanting the role for the role
grizzled maple
Because I never timed it and im lazy lol
steady lynx
I'm 90% sure it's faster to go around at this point
jagged vault
sometimes you just gotta get the role to make people in ss-discussion think you're cool cuz you have a blue name 🥴
grizzled maple
Its quite a walk back. I figured it was still faster. It skips a whole extra loading zone and a huge circle of movement
steady lynx
But which way it bounces matter a bit more
haughty fossil
whoa is that blue-name individual blue
steady lynx
It's like a six second difference
torpid pollen
true blue
grizzled maple
If you wanna time it and have video comparison I'll watch but honestly I'm not concerned with it rn
I never put that much into switch which is why I laugh at idiots like that one guy who puts so much stock into bopping me.
torpid pollen
is godhome ending 112% apb or is there a separate category
jagged vault
GE is under misc
grizzled maple
Godhome ending is just as fast as possible
torpid pollen
oh ok
grizzled maple
No zote
jagged vault
ge is just the ending
torpid pollen
so that means not upgrades to help with pantheons?
torpid pollen
sucks then
grizzled maple
Just watch a run honestly
jagged vault
that's why it's so hard
grizzled maple
It gets nail 3 and all spells
jagged vault
because a lot of bossfights
torpid pollen
but like
jagged vault
you get pale ore already from nosk and colo
grizzled maple
Because upgrades when you're fighting 45 bosses in a row adds up
torpid pollen
true
jagged vault
but is it faster
torpid pollen
ohhhhh
narrow crater
Any% AG Question - after you get dreamnail, salubra bench float, and walk across blue lake:
WR goes into the lever room, goes back and loads a save and then goes into the lever room again. He then appears in a combination of the Gruz mother room and lever room. I've been trying to recreate this for hours but I just keep going back to salubra? Is there some setup I'm missing? (Like the double jump glitch)
torpid pollen
right yeah
haughty fossil
(also dive is required to reach godhome anyway, so at the very least ddark is close enough to go pick up on your first peaks visit)
steady lynx
I never put that much into switch which is why I laugh at idiots like that one g...
A bit rude but sure
steady lynx
You know, I'm sorry that I found a game I enjoy running and set a goal
raven holly
Any% AG Question - after you get dreamnail, salubra bench float, and walk across...
You're gonna have to hope that one of the people that does glitched categories appears. Most of us have no idea what is going on either
thorn jasper
I never put that much into switch which is why I laugh at idiots like that one g...
? Was this meant as rudely as I'm interpreting it?
jagged vault
i think it's a joke
narrow crater
You're gonna have to hope that one of the people that does glitched categories a...
Yea i know I just wait for Kry or Xero and then repost the question
grizzled maple
no im not talking about you gusten lmao
i was talking about that asshole a couple of weeks ago saying things like "no one care about switch anyway" and literally every post he had name dropped me
i just blocked him
idk what his name even was at this point
thorn jasper
Ohh, that's a different meaning of bop(?)
steady lynx
Oh, okay, though I am an idiot who puts way too much stock into switch 112
neon island
Was it Richard?
steady lynx
It was the Xbox guy who moved to switch and said sub 50 is free
Which it very much isn't
grizzled maple
bop is beating someone on the leaderboard. common speedrun talk
thorn jasper
bop is beating someone on the leaderboard. common speedrun talk
I knew this, but misremembered the incident
ALSO, let's not drag people like this please
grizzled maple
ehh some people deserve it. if youre gonna come in and your first messages are to insult the community, you have it coming
im not one to forget
steady lynx
I like having peaceful competition in the switch categories, Dad, Trombon, Trousers, etc, all very nice
grizzled maple
same
dull birch
Ouch. That sounds like it was annoying to deal with :(
thorn jasper
A little bit, but we have already dealt with it. No need to clutter this channel with a rehash
grizzled maple
if we want a positive community that builds each other up we kinda have to nip this kinda attitude out when we see it
let them know its not welcome, and if they want to be welcome they need to have a nicer attitude
dull birch
This community definitely feels very welcoming and kind 💕 but sadly there will always be people like that, no matter what community
steady lynx
I've been in a lot of gaming communities and the HK speedrunning one is one of the nicest so far
neon island
iflthksc
civic cairn
for speedrunning role do you need to get in the top speedrunning catagory or just get a verified speed run
civic cairn
ok
dry sluice
@narrow crater salubra room has to load first for the room dupe to work since loading a save file is a different type of load than a room transition so I'd say most likely your issue is you're going back into the lever room too early and that room is loading first so no dupe
slate fulcrum
is there any updated 112% AB NMG route?
narrow crater
Thanks! I actually just figured it out too :)
slate fulcrum
the guide made by MonStahLer is really outdated
slate fulcrum
thanks
zinc cairn
Can i get speedrunner role please? -> https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/run/yv9dkj4z
thx
vocal dove
I like having peaceful competition in the switch categories, Dad, Trombon, Trous...
i want to get in on this friendly competition 
steady lynx
You're in the friendly competition
narrow crater
@dry sluice Ok so I have gotten to the part where you fly up in dirtmouth into that loadzone for COT— but then WR jumps in and out of those two vertical loadzones and when he falls back down the game freezes and he is in a different area. The input display just shows him holding jump, what else is going on?
dry sluice
yeah so this is the hard trick, I don't know how well I can explain just in text and its been a long time since I ran
I thought there was a video of it somewhere but I can't find it right now
narrow crater
hard as in precise?
dry sluice
ok here it is
so you skip the first part of this by doing the float in dirtmouth since you're already in a room dupe, but then you need to do the next 2 parts
I fail it a couple times in this but the first step is a wrong warp where you jump into the loadzone and land off to the side and then walk into it again with the right timing
and then you're above WK
narrow crater
can i turn on those collision boxes with minidebug
dry sluice
and then the next step is similar with hitting a loadzone twice with precise timing and then using quick map to break out at the right time to be in lurien's room
yeah its h by default
narrow crater
is there i good place to save state for this because often times I hardlock the game and have to restart the run from 0
dry sluice
this is basically the only hard trick in the run but its pretty tough and if you fail it in the wrong way you soft/hardlock so you'll probably want to practice it a lot
just put a savestate at the bottom of the lurien room
and then use the dupe button to put yourself in a room dupe, and that'll set you up how you'd be in a run
dupe button is P by default
narrow crater
awesome, thanks. If I hardlock does it mean reset? Or can I get back to the save state
dry sluice
but yeah I don't really have tips for you other than do your best to copy what I'm doing in this video, get familiar with the timings
narrow crater
yea thats basically how i learned the rest of the run
dry sluice
the first jump up into the loadzone needs to be basically instant or you won't have control of the knight afterwards
dry sluice
yes
narrow crater
still easier than doing WK
I see, doing too early just puts loads me into the same room twice
entering the loadzone twice, i mean
dry sluice
yeah
narrow crater
ok so i got the first loadzone trick, but I failed the 2nd and softlocked so I hit the save state and duped, but the room is still normal?
deft flame
hey, so im trying to learn any% nmg on current patch
and i read that explosion pogo needs your monitor set to 60hz and v-sync on for it to work
is that right?
grizzled maple
ideally yeah
its possible to do at higher fps's like 144 but its tighter and my video might not work for it
deft flame
so is it ok to just run the entire thing with 60hz and v-sync? or is that not recommended?
grizzled maple
no you just menu to vsync for the trick then turn it off right after
playing this game with vsync is so bad lol
deft flame
i see
well i'll give it a try later and see how it goes
does limiting fps work too or only v-sync?
grizzled maple
if you limit fps with something outside the game you would need to keep that the entire time, and the issue with hk is that fps is directly tied to input responsiveness
vsync is allowed since its an in-game setting
deft flame
if you limit fps with something outside the game you would need to keep that the...
ah i see, that actually makes sense
grizzled maple
gl though, let us know here if you have issues with it and we can help :)
deft flame
thank you! will do
versed elbow
Does the off screen kill on the big boi before Greenpath not work on current patch?
grizzled maple
yeah thats patched
versed elbow
Aight
deft flame
oh, thats good to know too, i wasnt sure either
grizzled maple
they patched it by making fireballs not hit off screen so that's something to keep in mind for bosses like wk and thk
deft flame
so, is it even worth it to practice explosion pogo as a new player or should i just focus on getting good at wk and other more essential skips?
twin swallow
depends how confident your THK and WK fights are i guess
grizzled maple
honestly i recommend always just biting the bullet early and learning the harder stuff because it'll be an advantage to you later when youre worried about optimizing, BUT if you find it's too hard there's nothing wrong with moving it to the back burner
twin swallow
going around costs about 30-40 seconds, chain dying to watcher knights or THK probably a bit more
dry sluice
@narrow crater after duping just go down like normal
deft flame
yeah i definitely absolutely suck at wk right now, so thats def one thing i'll start practicing a lot
grizzled maple
they're usually the biggest wall for new runners, yeah. probably one of the harder fights in all of hk speedrunning
narrow crater
wait I may have savestated in the wrong spot then, because Im in the WK room. Was I supposed to savestate in Dirtmouth?
deft flame
honestly i recommend always just biting the bullet early and learning the harder...
yeah thats what i was thinking, like at least make one attempt at explosion pogo every run so that even if i'm not the best at it at first i can get some practice in
dry sluice
no you were supposed to savestate in WK room
grizzled maple
theres a video pinned in #any-percent-nmg from pest that explains things in the fight pretty well if you might wanna see that
dry sluice
whats going wrong?
deft flame
theres a video pinned in <#290932216781864960> from pest that explains things in...
right, i was looking at a powerpoint presentation that was posted on speedrun.com up until now
dry sluice
you can't practice just the top part
deft flame
i'll take a look at this video too
dry sluice
you have to do it all at once
or actually thats not even true anymore if you just do the bottom part and get to right before the top part you can savestate and just use ; to load the state instead of L and it'll include the room dupe
narrow crater
I went down the loadzone in Dirtmouth, then hit O to save and practice until I softlock then hit L and I'm on the other side of WK
dry sluice
show me where you are
narrow crater
dry sluice
oh, yeah you just put your savestate in the wrong spot
I just meant at the bottom of that room
try loading with ; though
narrow crater
; doesn't work for me, mine might be outdated
narrow crater
It's fine I'll reset but next time I want to save state what do I do after I enter the loadzone in Dirtmouth?
dry sluice
if you just get the new one then you can savestate wherever you want
and load with ; and the room dupe setup will be saved
narrow crater
oh ok
dry sluice
you can decompile the assembly with dnspy and look at it there
most of glitch hunting is just done testing in game though
only really look at the code to confirm why stuff works occasionally
burnt grove
or figure out easier setups or how to use the same flaw for other glitches
narrow crater
Ive heard of dnspy, but some of the glitches seem so obtuse that I wonder how they come about, like storing the double jump in blue lake cuz the game thinks you're swimming or something?
dry sluice
some of its by accident
a lot of stuff was found testing for low jump and low nail tbh
the water double jump was just fucking around with water float I think and found it
but like I found FK skip for low nail which led to a complete reroute of any% nmms and saves a ton of time
wrong warps were originally found looking for ways through soul sanctum without jumping for low jump
load warps were found because Mick asked me what grubs would be dupable for 100% and I messed up a room dupe in crossroads and accidentally did a load warp
narrow crater
how do you know/decide which room you'll be sent next when you wrong warp
dry sluice
the first loadzone hit sets the room you go to, touching another loadzone will overwrite the destination loadzone but not the room so you go to the correct room but wrong loadzone in said room
narrow crater
do you control what the overwritten loadzone will be?
dry sluice
yeah that just depends on the loadzone you go into
every loadzone has a set destination loadzone it goes to
torpid pollen
does a death in path of pain destroy a steel soul file
grizzled maple
yes
torpid pollen
damn
grizzled maple
PoP is just a branch of WP and WP is a real place
grizzled maple
i mean i could be wrong, but i don't see why it wouldn't. it's literally part of the WP map
torpid pollen
yeah
harsh mason
use mms to re steel soul your save 
thorn jasper
i'll test it now
thorn jasper
or you could backup the save file
torpid pollen
you put in the file and then you can change the thing so it undestroys ur ss file
harsh mason
Online save file editor.
The steps behind decryption and encryption were taken from @KayDeeTee's Hollow Knight Save Manager.
torpid pollen
wdym
harsh mason
thats me
torpid pollen
where did you get that from
thorn jasper
harsh mason
torpid pollen
LMAO
harsh mason
its based on this https://github.com/KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager
which is me
torpid pollen
interesting
harsh mason
that was the joke
torpid pollen
ah
thorn jasper
i'll test it now <:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
my steel soul file already did PoP and I'm now too lazy to keep at this
torpid pollen
well how would i know
damn
is there some pop value
that u can change from 1 to 0 or smth
harsh mason
no
torpid pollen
damn
harsh mason
its all scenedata
thorn jasper
what about a steel soul value
harsh mason
yeah
harsh mason
permadeathMode = 0/1
harsh mason
2 is for an unloadable save yes
torpid pollen
yeah
thorn jasper
the answer is yes
grizzled maple
confirmed too
torpid pollen
damn
narrow crater
What is load extender
thorn jasper
What is load extender
a mod that increases your load times, which aids in some glitch execution
narrow crater
but i cant have it at the same time as debug?
hollow plover
Hi! Today I've downloaded impossible HK mod. I was doing pretty well until the first fireball jump. How to learn it?
short spire
make sure to use quick cast
hollow plover
Right trigger?
thorn jasper
but i cant have it at the same time as debug?
not sure about this one, but I do know that you can't have debug mod for speedruns
yeah that's quick cast. it should cast spells quickly
dry sluice
Load extender is in mini debug by default
hollow plover
Do I move between casts?
short spire
depends how much height you can lose
hollow plover
For example greenpath hornet jump
thorn jasper
greenpath hornet should not need movement
that jump is in normal any% runs so you can watch one of those
thorn jasper
I'd highly recommend learning the any% route without this impossible mod first. Gwonkee made it for people who already have run that route, so there may be more surprises ahead
depending on what your goals are, I suppose
hollow plover
I've done pretty much everything in vanila HK so I wanted to find something harder
But it is clearly to hard for me right now
grizzled maple
thats like jumping from "i beat super mario casually time to do something harder" and picking up kaizo
thats like 30 steps up
hollow plover
Something like that XD
true hound
I'd highly recommend learning the any% route without this impossible mod first. ...
what is the usually suggested any% route? ive been using fireb0rn's speedrun achievement guide and it's not the most efficient (you get d dark)
grizzled maple
yeah that guide is just meant for casuals getting the cheevo
fire also has a guide for any% thats extremely detailed
true hound
oh ok thank you
grizzled maple
its meant for 1221, so if you dont want to downpatch, be aware some things are different
true hound
ive had problems with downpatching(on steam) for 1221 so i think ill get HK on GoG and downpatch there
hollow plover
thats like jumping from "i beat super mario casually time to do something harder...
I've done all pantheons with bindings and nearly every boss in radiant mode and I was bored so I've found out that map
grizzled maple
that's still very different is my point
true hound
oh i did almost all bosses on radiant too but then got hard countered at markoth
radiant markoth is not ok
grizzled maple
there's a lot of intricate skips and concepts you wont know about no matter how much you did casually
hollow plover
That's true
grizzled maple
rando is a great way to learn a bunch of skips and such. that's usually the next step up if you dont want the pressure of actual speedrunning
true hound
yeah its definitely different. looking up fire's guide and hes got like 10 hours of video in the guide
looks like i got some work to do
grizzled maple
in fact a bunch of speedrunners came from doing rando first and even helped with fresh route ideas because of their different perspective
twin swallow
don't be concerned if everything doesn't click right away with that video series
I still come back to that every month or so and learn new small things I missed
digital jewel
you sure you'd rather guy the game again on gog rather than getting help downpatching?
digital jewel
the help hasn't been working?
vocal dove
another Josef 
true hound
hello
no i did the linked guide on #speedrunning and downloaded the executable but it shows an error in the terminal, and also when i do the command in console for 1221 i waited and it did not do anything
i probably did something wrong
true hound
i downloaded it and ran it
heres what it shows
err.rPatternNotFound
is that normal?
digital jewel
no that's not normal
true hound
oh wait
i reopened steam console and it finished the download
but it still says 1.4.3.2
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp changed task to SiteLicenseSeatCheckout with ""
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp changed task to CreatingProcess with ""
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp waiting for user response to CreatingProcess ""
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp continues with user response "CreatingProcess"
Game update: AppID 367520 "", ProcID 39708, IP 0.0.0.0:0
Starting app 367520
Adding process 39708 for game ID 367520
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp changed task to WaitingGameWindow with ""
GameAction [AppID 367520, ActionID 7] : LaunchApp changed task to Completed with ""
Game update: AppID 367520 "", ProcID 39708, IP 0.0.0.0:0
Game removed: AppID 367520 "", ProcID 39708
Exiting app 367520
No cached sticky mapping in ActivateActionSet.ExecCommandLine: "D:\Steam\steam.exe -- steam://nav/console"
ExecuteSteamURL: "steam://nav/console"
stuff like that
digital jewel
what
if the steamdepotdownpatcher doesn't work, then trying to downpatch through steam console won't work
true hound
well it says depot download complete, but i closed steam so i dont think it worked. i booted up hollow knight and it was current patch
it just said that
grave kernel
downpatch creates a new version
true hound
yes
digital jewel
well downloading the files doesn't switch your game version
you need to continue reading the guide
true hound
so i redo the steps because i closed steam right? its just showing what happened last time. the guide said you have to do it every time steam runs
digital jewel
there's no need to redo anything if as you say the depot download finished
just follow the guide
true hound
help
so i found the depot folder
and i copied it to another folder i called Hollow Knight 1221
inside was a folder called Hollow_Knight_Data and an executable of hollow knight
then i added it to steam as a non steam game
then when i clicked it, it opened the other hollow knight but then it crashed
versed elbow
I just have to be faster than 2 hours 2 minutes to not be last on the leaderboards for XB1/PS4 ooor I could go on Switch and have to beat 5 hours 50 minutes
stuck raptor
then when i clicked it, it opened the other hollow knight but then it crashed
did you add the txt file
true hound
hhjelp
deft flame
do people do godseeker mode runs? or is that like not a thing
short spire
its not a thing nah
yet, at least
true ending all glitches does make use of the godseeker mode though, by breaking out of it and using the upgrades to get the regular true end
narrow crater
yep, i called it steam_appid
try running the .exe from the depot folder first
deft flame
true ending all glitches does make use of the godseeker mode though, by breaking...
oh thats cool, i had no idea you could do that
narrow crater
I tried to install Kry's updated mini-debug just by downloading it from the github and replacing the current dll, but now nothing works
true hound
try running the .exe from the depot folder first
will do
short spire
yeah teixera it's a pretty recent find
i recommend checking out the run it's pretty cool
true hound
hol up
deft flame
yeah i'll take a look
true hound
now there are 4 different folders that say crash.dmp, error, and output log
and it crashed again
narrow crater
did you downpatch with steam
true hound
what do you mean
narrow crater
did you open the console and paste the code from the guide
narrow crater
did you spell steam_appid.txt right
narrow crater
its a text file
true hound
and i tried to paste it in again and it said download failed, manifest not found
narrow crater
yes because you need to use the steam patcher every time you open steam
you already downloaded it
digital jewel
hollowknight.exe?
true hound
hollowknight.exe?
no the one linked in the guide
the patcher
well now its another error
narrow crater
did you read the guide
true hound
yes
true hound
the one pinned to this channel
narrow crater
after you download from the console you should get a folder in Steam\steamapps\content\app_367520\depot_367521
or something similar
true hound
yep
narrow crater
you got the .exe, the data folder, steam_api, and steam_appid?
narrow crater
delete app_367520 and start over
true hound
wait but
narrow crater
you didn't completely download
true hound
i have another folder
i made it
it has the data, appid, and hollowknight.exe
and crash logs
dry sluice
arcade can you be more specific than nothing works, I just downloaded from there to check and its working fine
narrow crater
like i hopped into a new save and none of the binds are working
wait are the binds just different
timescale works
limpid ruin
The binds for minidebug can be read in minidebug.json in your save folder
dry sluice
^
limpid ruin
They're mostly numpad keys, if I remember right, so either rebind if you don't have a numpad, or remember that numlock is a key
dry sluice
if you had a really old version binds would be different now yeah, but you can set them to whatever you want and they'll stay that way for all future versions since it just reads from that file
true hound
how do mods work in hollow knight speedruns? are there specific rules to make sure you don't have mods enabled?
like to make sure that ur not cheating with mods
do you have to disable mods somehow, or uninstall?
dry sluice
you have to uninstall all mods for the main boards yes
narrow crater
oh wow its come a long way
true hound
you have to uninstall all mods for the main boards yes
will verifying file integrity do it?
limpid ruin
Yep
dry sluice
if you're just on current patch yeah that would work
limpid ruin
But that's exactly why you read the full downpatch guide for adding multiple installs, so you don't have to dealt with that
narrow crater
is new minidebug compatible with load extender or is it built in
dry sluice
built in
cinder bison
getting that cycle on the gome room right after aspid arenas is a lot harder than it looks
limpid ruin
getting that cycle on the gome room right after aspid arenas is a lot harder tha...
It really is :FeelsMan:
narrow crater
can you unyeet loadscreens
uneven urchin
hey, I have a slight question about one speedrun
digital jewel
dry sluice
no you have to quit out arcade
uneven urchin
Veru's Low%NSOOB spends like 95 hours farming essence
the current WR is about 30 minutes
dry sluice
its not nsoob
limpid ruin
can you unyeet loadscreens
Not without restarting the game (or just going to menu, can't remember which)
uneven urchin
why did he farm essence/what was the skip which allowed for this
uneven urchin
its not nsoob
not NSOOB?
cinder bison
yeet loadscreen what does it mean ?
dry sluice
it was to get dreamgate to get back after skipping wk
later there was a different skip to get back with a hazard warp
so essence wasn't needed
limpid ruin
Yeet loadscreen is a function in minidebug for 1028, super practical for practicing load screen glitch movements and early controls
narrow crater
what does reloadsettings do?
dry sluice
you can't cause you can't go through the wk room backwards
updates settings if you changed them with the game open
cinder bison
ohh thanks
dry sluice
and updates savestates if you edited them
uneven urchin
I'm only really familiar with the NMG run
dry sluice
also what I was saying is that the current ~30 min WR you're looking at isn't an NSOOB run
its NMMS
so it has a different ruleset and different skips allowed
short spire
nah i meant the leaderboards that were moved to a google doc after we removed them from the leaderboards
digital jewel
didn't serena make a forum post or something
short spire
low% nsoob ended up going down to 34 minutes after hazard out of bounds was found
dry sluice
everyone which run were you looking at as the current WR? Cause if you were looking at Stayplus's run thats NSOOB, I just assumed you were looking at the leaderboards on the website which is not
short spire
but verus run was the only way to do it before that
uneven urchin
yeah was looking at Stayplus'
this vid
was surprised by the massive time cut and wanted to ask
digital jewel
my run was like 1.5 hrs so that's a 94hrs cut
pretty stupid
god that was a fun time to be running the game ngl
not like the game sucks now but still
short spire
i wouldnt be surprised if that's the largest wr improvement in speedrun history
uneven urchin
is 18:14-18:25 not considered Out Of Bounds?