serious-discussion

[vague flower]

I've never seen an ACT exam in my entire life but I've seen some examples of ACT exercises on the internet that you might be requested to solve

I'm not sure if they reflect the actual difficulty level of the exam though

here's what I found

I cannot send pictures here

I will move to #math-discussion

[ocean harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017309011974037504/1378077293200674969/tumblr_68cbdbd8c8f23e60618f1c0977dec15c_eaf41d7c_1280.webp

[warm umbra]

I meant it varies on what research you're actually doing; because he never specified whether it was math or not.

[latent edge]

[warm umbra]

🥹

[tawdry pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/268882317391429632/1429237441423998976/image0.gif

cats dont care about your feelings

[toxic obsidian]

I’m scared of cats

They terrify me

[light gate]

meowww

[light thorn]

I don't know how to study. It feels like the more I try to study, the harder it gets to even try at all.

[teal lion]

depends on what the problem is

forcing yourself to read a reading if if its a more humanities thing

or doing brute calculations if its a stem thing

can help jog da brain in my experience

but pick the smallest thing you can complete and just do that

then STOP

smallest thing that takes effort to complete

[light thorn]

Well, I dunno, I'm just trying to do practice problems to see if I can get anything out of it, it seems to kinda work sometimes, but it just feels harder and harder to get started at all now that I have been doing it for a few days

Not in a sense of I don't know what to do, I'm just copying completed problems and hoping for the best
I mean that even with pen, paper, and problems in front of me, I can't do anything, not even look at the problems

[teal lion]

you can, actually

repeating you can’t makes things worse

you can look at the problems

i’d definitely find someone to do work with

if you have a teacher or professor that is typically a great time

if its been a while, make sure you ate, drank water, and so on and so forth

[velvet hornet]

re: #book-recommendations message @finite hatch
lol the only pure math MSU department is based on IMU

[foggy meadow]

I need to finish that book and the cellular automata book.

[polar temple]

what you doing?

the method of studying really matters for efficiency/effectiveness

[light gate]

i do both and i feel the humanities are soooo much easier to study for

[wide sequoia]

wahts msu or imu

[exotic adder]

Wish me a good luck
I have a test now on handwriting c#

[light gate]

glgl

[wide sequoia]

handwriting?

[light thorn]

Trying to replicate already solved problems. But it's not solving them, it's doing them at all
Anyway, my tutor did give me some flashcards that might be useful, I'll do those tonight instead

[velvet hornet]

universities in moscow.
imu is pure math university that is free and open for everyone. and is one of the best out there.
msu is like a regular state university (is in russia's "ivy league")

[wide sequoia]

damnnn

cool

[tame mantle]

Guys, does anyone have a website for creating mathematical illustrations for university labs? Or maybe there is some kind of bot on this server.

[old oak]

<@&268886789983436800> Spam/scam here as well

[exotic adder]

My hand hurts badly

[wide sequoia]

[light gate]

what sort of illustrations

[ocean harbor]

reminds me of my java test as well

I used to write the code on paper and all I did was crying

goodluck!

[royal tangle]

I see the problem with this

youre forgetting the { on line 2, and you didnt indent
thatll solve all of your life problems, good luck out there soldier

[ocean harbor]

I know, this is not mine but it's a meme

[compact surge]

using a non monospace font for programming = ban

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/emu-emu-otori-emu-jump-emu-otori-jump-pjsk-gif-1067827698694539227

[latent edge]

Literally me

[ocean harbor]

im sure u will hate it more and more

[zealous garden]

I remember having to handwrite programs on my AP Computer Science final

I got a 5 on that bitch

I didn't know you could get a 5

It is possibly one of my proudest moments after the fact, I finished the exam in like 30-40 minutes, let the teacher know and she just looked at me

"Are you sure? Do you wanna double check"

"I already did"

I miss being OP in high school

[raw cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/quishilobie-cat-white-cat-with-cigarette-cigarrete-cat-depressed-cat-gif-1366676046942216736

[steel blade]

I miss HS days

[old oak]

Heck, same

[ocean harbor]

i miss when i was a fetus

[echo pumice]

i miss being a zygote

[last rose]

Can someone look at my argument against the existence of God, and maybe we shall discuss?

Definitions:

G = a being who is omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent as per the definition of God in classical theism.

S = non-human animal suffering exists as an evolved, pervasive, and ancient feature of life.

W = the world as it exists (empirically containing S).

1. (P1) S exists in W and is causally prior to humanity (e.g., predation, parasitism, starvation predates humans by hundreds of millions of years).

2. (P2) If G exists and is omnipotent and omniscient, every feature of W, including S, is either directly willed or knowingly permitted by G.

3. (P3) Benevolence entails that, of all logically possible worlds G could create, G selects one that maximizes the ratio of sentient well-being to suffering.

4. (P4) There exist logically possible worlds W′ in which biological life arises with reduced or no conscious suffering (for instance, via non-sentient ecological analogues or pain-free survival mechanisms). These worlds are not self-contradictory.

5. (P5) Therefore, if G is omnipotent, G could have actualised W′ instead of W.

6. (P6) G, being omniscient, would have known W entails vast S and W′ does not.

7. (P7) Hence, if G actualised W rather than W′, either:
   (a) G is not benevolent,
   (b) G is not omnipotent, or
   (c) G does not exist.

8. (C) From (P1)–(P7), at least one of the defining attributes of G (benevolence, omnipotence, or existence) is false.

¬(Omnipotent ∧ Omniscient ∧ Benevolent ∧ Exists)

Thus:
Either no God exists, or
God exists but is not benevolent, i.e., is indifferent or malevolent.

[inner canopy]

Congratulations you discovered gnosticism

[wispy zealot]

right break down ur arguements 1 by one imma try and give you my answers

@last rose

[stray viper]

this looks like the theological trilemma w/ the problem of evil argument

[wispy zealot]

cooly i'll try and answer ur questions

just tell me ur first question and go in order

[last rose]

I would say it differs slightly

[wispy zealot]

?

[last rose]

I mean those are my premises. Do you have anything to say against any of them specifically? Starting from P(1) I suppose.

[wispy zealot]

present the arguement in simple terms

[last rose]

I’m not sure what you’re referring to

Hm? Those are merely definitions for ease of typing

No?

[wispy zealot]

afk

[last rose]

I never mentioned evil in my argument

This is not a moral stance

Well, if you read my argument…

It’s all there

What are you talking about?

Those are not God…

Please reread below

Definitions:

G = a being who is omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent as per the definition of God in classical theism.

S = non-human animal suffering exists as an evolved, pervasive, and ancient feature of life.

W = the world as it exists (empirically containing S).

1. (P1) S exists in W and is causally prior to humanity (e.g., predation, parasitism, starvation predates humans by hundreds of millions of years).

2. (P2) If G exists and is omnipotent and omniscient, every feature of W, including S, is either directly willed or knowingly permitted by G.

3. (P3) Benevolence entails that, of all logically possible worlds G could create, G selects one that maximizes the ratio of sentient well-being to suffering.

4. (P4) There exist logically possible worlds W′ in which biological life arises with reduced or no conscious suffering (for instance, via non-sentient ecological analogues or pain-free survival mechanisms). These worlds are not self-contradictory.

5. (P5) Therefore, if G is omnipotent, G could have actualised W′ instead of W.

6. (P6) G, being omniscient, would have known W entails vast S and W′ does not.

7. (P7) Hence, if G actualised W rather than W′, either:
   (a) G is not benevolent,
   (b) G is not omnipotent, or
   (c) G does not exist.

8. (C) From (P1)–(P7), at least one of the defining attributes of G (benevolence, omnipotence, or existence) is false.

Thus:
Either no God exists, or
God exists but is not benevolent, i.e., is indifferent or malevolent.

[unkempt prism]

It seems strange to put forward the arguments using some sort of formal logic, also no offence but the argument that if God exists he isn’t benevolent isn’t really yours. It’s been a thought probably for thousands of years

[last rose]

None taken.

[last rose]

I’m basically restating William Rowe’s or J.L. Mackie’s logical formulations, but in your own words, which differs somewhat

[unkempt prism]

Not to mention proposition 4 is a GIANT logical leap

[last rose]

Could you eloborate

Do you believe an all-powerful god cannot create a world with any form of reduced animal suffering?

What is the point exactly?

I’m talking about non-human animal

[unkempt prism]

Well maybe he can but you pose it as necessarily true

Im not capable of creating an entire universe so I wouldn’t know lol

[last rose]

If it is not necessarily true then God is not all-powerful. Would you not agree?

One way would be making a lot more animal herbivore

That’s a big leap in logic

How does reducing animal suffering lead entail no free will?

[unkempt prism]

Im not sure what the far reaching implications of that are

[neat lintel]

considering p4, wouldn't a valid conclusion be that w prime doesn't exist? just feels like your proof could just as easily end in "therefore this the world that maximizes well-being v. suffering"

[unkempt prism]

But sure he’s not all powerful then. But there are way easier thought experiments to disprove “all powerful”

Eg Can God create a rock he can’t lift

[last rose]

If you say it’s not possible, then you’re saying even an omnipotent being couldn’t make a world with less suffering, which basically admits omnipotence is limited.
So either way, the triad breaks somewhere. Again though, there are many logically consistent ways that this W’ could be.

[unkempt prism]

I dontsee the so on

[last rose]

This is a bad argument because that is not logically consistent

[unkempt prism]

It’s paradoxical

[neat lintel]

nope, it says that this world has the best wellbeing:suffering ratio

[unkempt prism]

Youre just saying words without defining them

[last rose]

And you think this is not logically possible?

[neat lintel]

your logically consistent ways that the world could have less suffering are probably faulty, if an omnipotent being didn't bring those into being, according to your own argument. Given everything you've said, you should probably conclude that W prime doesn't exist

[void pollen]

the question about creating an unliftable thing is stupid

[neat lintel]

I'm not saying what I think, I'm saying what you wrote. P4 is wishful thinking

[reef carbon]

@solar temple continuing from #help-37: i made myself abundantly clear that your question is too personal for me to answer. acting funny about that won't make me give out that info.

[neat lintel]

your argument only makes sense if W prime exists, but you just as easily couldn't ended this with "thus, W prime cannot exist"

it would actually be more logical that way

[last rose]

Why would it not exist?

How can you say it’s not logically possible that W’ exist?

[neat lintel]

because if an omnipotent god exists and maximizes the ratio of wellbeing to suffering, and they made W and not W prime, then the omnipotent being probably picked a better W than you

[last rose]

Again I’m not claiming ONE W’ exist.

[neat lintel]

in other words, an omnipotent being would've determined that this is ideal, and you'd be sitting here like "wtf but there's so much suffering". Nothing illogical about that, you just can't comprehend all the possibilities. that's why P4 is such a leap of wishful thinking imo

[last rose]

If you say this world is the best possible, you’re not arguing from evidence; you’re defining God’s choice as perfect by default. That makes the claim unfalsifiable, because any amount of suffering could be reinterpreted as secretly optimal.

Even if we granted that this is ‘the best possible world,’ that would mean omnipotence is incredibly constrained, that no logically consistent world with less agony is possible. That’s a very bold metaphysical claim, and it weakens the idea of divine power rather than defending it.

I’m not talking about evil because that requires a discussion of morality

[neat lintel]

you did that yourself with P2. you declared the shit perfect by definition lol

[last rose]

That is the definition of God

Okay I’m listening

This is irrelevant in discussion of non-human animal suffering

Yes it is irrelevant

[void pollen]

youre wrong

[solar temple]

I apprehend your sentiment with perspicacity and offer my unfeigned contrition for any inadvertent trespass upon your personal boundaries. It was never my intent to obtrude or elicit discomfiture; I merely sought elucidation, yet now perceive the impropriety of my inquiry.

[last rose]

You’re making a category error that I will not be discussing

[void pollen]

thats stupid.

[reef carbon]

nice thesaurus-pull LMFAO

[last rose]

You can look up the definition of free will if you’d like

But I won’t be discussing this category error

[void pollen]

definition doesnt give examples.

[neat lintel]

(P7) Hence, if G actualised W rather than W′, either:
(a) G is not benevolent,
(b) G is not omnipotent, or
(c) G does not exist.
you're missing (d), W prime doesn't exist
and your argument for why W prime surely exists is "well look around, everything's so bad since ancient times"
I think you're using logic to justify your own view, while handwaving the finer points of why this is a fundamentally broken train of thought

you're saying that W prime definitely exists and therefore G isn't all powerful, but don't acknowledge the possibility that G is all powerful and you are mistaking every possible W prime for one with less suffering instead of more

so unless you are also all powerful, the conclusion isn't logical

P2 and P4 are a yikes

[last rose]

You’re invoking free will as a theodical justification which presupposes moral agency, the capacity to deliberate, evaluate moral alternatives, and act from intention rather than compulsion. Non-human animals demonstrably lack such reflective self-awareness and moral cognition. They act from instinctual drives determined by biological imperatives and environmental stimuli. There is no genuine libertarian freedom here, only mechanistic or conditioned behaviour.

Therefore, to ascribe “free will” to animals is a category mistake: it conflates volitional autonomy (acting without external coercion) with moral freedom (the capacity to choose between good and evil). Animal behaviour belongs to the former, not the latter, and hence cannot bear moral responsibility.

If animals lack moral responsibility, their suffering cannot be justified as a necessary byproduct of free moral choice. The concept of “free will” is therefore inapplicable to their case.

[void pollen]

buttery butter is so good paired with fresh bread

[last rose]

I’ll respond shortly, Beef. I just need to handle something first.

[neat lintel]

by definition, you chose G to be omnipotent and all powerful, and then they made W to maximize the ratio
you cannot then say that W prime would've had any more perfect ratio without G not being omnipotent
so therefore, W prime doesn't exist or G is not omni
@last rose I don't actually care, I'm just telling you. the vibe is that you're gonna tell me why no actually you're right and this needs no changes and it's all part of what's perfect in your head, and I'm not really looking for that. But I respect the work you've put in and so I wanted to share my serious thoughts

[solar temple]

I repudiate the insinuation that my locutionary proclivities are the puerile byproduct of thesaural subservience; rather, they are the unpremeditated effulgence of an intellect luxuriating in the polyphonous opulence of its own vernacular imagination.

[void pollen]

too much ,, look how cool and smart i am" words

[neat lintel]

carbonara

[solar temple]

Best meal

[wispy zealot]

probably one of the worst ways to debate i've ever seen, get straight to the point and ur doubts will be answered.

🥀

[void pollen]

reading this is worse than a
java codebase

[wispy zealot]

what i absolutely hate about some "debaters" is that they don't give a clear question

literally ask a normal question

[void pollen]

this discussion was like

[last rose]

That’s fair; the contradiction does arise directly from the omni-definition. That’s sort of the point: if we take the standard theistic definition seriously, it logically entails that either this world is flawless by definition, or the concept of an omnipotent, benevolent creator collapses.
Both outcomes are philosophically unsatisfying, which, I suppose, is why the omni-triad itself is unstable.

[void pollen]

theres no such thing as that discussion

[wispy zealot]

1st one is already dumb because imagine waking up in hell the first thing u experience is eternal punishment and you don't know the reason

not fair

the quran says god is just

just isn't putting people into hell before they even do the test

[last rose]

Interesting, then what are your views on natural disasters killing non-human animal?

Volcanic eruptions, flooding etc.

[wispy zealot]

punishments

fairs actually

vro knows his geography

[last rose]

Punishments for what crime? What had these animals done?

[void pollen]

that's NOT a counter argument(reverse argument, whatever)

[wispy zealot]

oh animals mb

[last rose]

One moment I need to get some food

[void pollen]

first of all, it's not okay to randomly in the middle of discussion say ,, okay guys screw you im gonna eat something "
second of all, its even LESS okay, to ask chatgpt for help

[tawny knoll]

LOL

[wispy zealot]

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:216)

forgot the verse omd

[void pollen]

and, this discussion is already leaping far, far away from your side

[wispy zealot]

but the point of this verse is basically god works in mysterious ways

there are things he does that we don't understand

its like tryna ask why did got make the universe expand (if you believe in the big bang)

nobody knows

[void pollen]

so yeah it'd be better to end discussion if there's god or not and talk about something else

[robust laurel]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[last rose]

Oh, I apologise; I didn’t know this was some sort of competition—and I didn’t use chatGPT for any help.

[wispy zealot]

also my favourite verse ever

[void pollen]

what fucking competition

[wispy zealot]

"Indeed through hardship comes ease"

as chazza said there are benefits for natural disasters such as volcanos

i do geography fertile soil is very important

[last rose]

This would imply some sort of competition, would it not?

[wispy zealot]

one of the reason people live around dangerous areas

[void pollen]

also stop writing perfectly and take more time to make an interesting response instead of caring about the syntax

[wispy zealot]

also yes fully agree with chazza everything is going to die

animals dying make fossil fuels am i correct?

[void pollen]

it just means that you could have your moments to shine but you didnt use them properly

[wispy zealot]

yes

natural processes

js searched it up mb guys

animals dying and natural processes make fossil fuels

we use those for you to be on discord typing to use rn

[void pollen]

so literally shut up cooley

[void pollen]

also is that an m dash... - —
IF you're pasting from chatgpt im gonna get you banned and jumped on

and it is an m dash..

[last rose]

So you haven’t read a single book in your life?

[wispy zealot]

huh?

im not arab im pakistani

[void pollen]

why use a m dash instead of a normal one

[wispy zealot]

one sec

ill try and find it

[void pollen]

this is my second convo where someone uses an m dash, and in the first one it was ai

[wispy zealot]

Surah Al-Kahf (18:45)

thats about the sun

[void pollen]

again, 👆

[wispy zealot]

cool thing about the quran

it knows about how life is made by water

Surah Al-Anbiya (21:30)

[last rose]

Firstly, we can limit the other benefits by simply looking at the times before humans began to exist; obviously, animal suffering existed way before us as I mentioned in the first premise.

Secondly, I think that’s a teleological fallacy. Correlation of benefit does not entail purposive design. The fact that fertile soil results from lava flow does not imply that the suffering it causes was instrumentally intended toward that end. Nature displays contingent by-products, not designed trade-offs. To treat every consequence as an intentional good is to convert chance into teleology by assertion. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

[void pollen]

okay..

[wispy zealot]

before humans were dinosaurs if you believe that was true, they died and gave us fossil fuels

Chazza are you a christian or muslim

or anything else

nice

one of the few christians that actually says god like jesus

[void pollen]

<@&268886789983436800> i believe @last rose is copy pasting responses from chatgpt or similar ai tools, his account is relatively new, he uses m-dashes, and writes prefectly with no "syntax" errors

?

[last rose]

What you’re doing is giving me a teleological harmony argument, which you can look up on Google.

[void pollen]

please take a look at this.

[wispy zealot]

10/10 ragebait

[last rose]

Now if you look at my messages, you’ll notice some syntax and grammatical errors; so that claim is quite literally false.

[wispy zealot]

took him a few years to type them

[storm sage]

It doesn't read like AI to me

(banned spammer)

[void pollen]

i dont know.. they seem weirdly ai for me

okay i guess

[wispy zealot]

aramaic is such a cool language ngl its basically the same thing as arabic

is it js old arabic or smth

[last rose]

Again, you should know that em dashes are commonly used by humans (especially in books) not just AI.

[wispy zealot]

wdym spammer

[storm sage]

there was a spammer, I deleted their messages

[wispy zealot]

he wasn't spamming?

he sent multiple messages in a row because no one was talking

[last rose]

He did send like 8 emojis in a row so yeah

[void pollen]

you didnt give me a reason. consider not using them, if you cant provide me a goddamn 1 answer

[last rose]

Oh, and I had to make a new account since I lost access to my previous one; I forgot the password and can’t access the associated email anymore.

[last rose]

What reasons?

[void pollen]

very uncautious to not save your passwords.

[storm sage]

...? is this relevant to something

[last rose]

Actually, I misremembered; I do know the password, but Discord requires a verification code that was sent to the email associated with the account.

[void pollen]

no but at thjs point im annoyed

[storm sage]

maybe take a break then

life's too short to get annoyed by random internet convos

[void pollen]

yeah..

-# but it's never too late to gamble🤑(make the annoying person shut up)

mm well i have time now so why not take my anger out at someone

[void pollen]

thats so spaghetti

[raw stump]

anyone good at a-level physics can help me understand whats going on in this question

never mind i kind of undestand it now, but the exam technique u need to figure out is just weird

[fresh comet]

[stable garnet]

Hi every one

Im essidiq

[quick burrow]

Hello, what are the requirements for operational semantics?

[raw cedar]

m dashes? shiver me timbers!

[raw cedar]

what even is that

[lyric lotus]

as in Brzozowski derivatives?

[quick burrow]

Is kind of using proofs to check whether a program is correct, in the sense that do what it should do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_semantics

[raw cedar]

sorry i cant help😭

[wide sequoia]

lean?

[random ridge]

what are you trying to do with them ?

[earnest vigil]

I slept through a shooting at my dining hall

[olive nova]

Surds are absurd

[raw cedar]

sqrt 2 cry about it

[quick burrow]

Hello, what's lean?

[quick burrow]

Learn those topics first before operational semantics

[random ridge]

i don’t really think there are any requirements. it depends on what exactly you mean by semantics but for learning small step/big step stuff i think u can just jump right in

[tulip dome]

Guys need a help

I have made an app

Could u please review that

Its basically a social networking app

[lunar ruin]

Did you vibe code it too?

[tulip dome]

Yupp

[wide sequoia]

Lean

Lean is a proof assistant and a functional programming language.[2] It is based on the calculus of constructions with inductive types. It is an open-source project hosted on GitHub. Development is currently supported by the non-profit Lean Focused Research Organization (FRO).

[hardy iron]

Fun stuff

[hardy iron]

Lean's a functional programming language, and also a proof assistant. For more information, check https://lean-lang.org/ out.

[mint canopy]

We don't allow personal adverts on this server. I'm afraid I'm going to have to remove this.

[hardy iron]

It's mainly used for formal verifications although it can also be used as a general purpose programming language. There are other proof assistants like Agda or Rocq (formally Coq).

Formerly**

[last rose]

Apologies for the delayed response; I’ve given your critique some thought, and I think you’re right to note that my original P4 implicitly assumes that a world with less suffering is metaphysically possible, which doesn’t automatically follow from its mere conceivability. Yet the epistemic burden then seems to shift: if the theist contends that such a world W' is in fact impossible, it falls upon them to articulate why this is so. Absent such an account, we are left confronting a world permeated by vast, seemingly gratuitous suffering that remains incongruous with the notion of divine omnibenevolence. Thus, while I concede that the argument cannot function as a demonstrative proof, it nevertheless sustains significant inductive force against the classical conception of God.

Still, even if I were to grant that a pain-minimised W′ is not metaphysically realisable, the structure of the argument can be reframed in probabilistic (which was my intention) rather than deductive terms, arguably rendering it philosophically more robust. For even if some degree of suffering is necessary within a law-governed cosmos capable of moral agents, the sheer magnitude, distribution, and antiquity of suffering in our actual world W appear radically disproportionate to any morally sufficient purpose we can conceive. That disproportion itself constitutes a prima facie challenge to the coherence of divine benevolence. At any rate, would you consider the following revision of P4 more defensible?

(P4′) There exist conceivable worlds in which sentient suffering is substantially diminished without any evident logical contradiction, and the theist bears the explanatory burden of demonstrating why such worlds are metaphysically impossible rather than merely axiologically inferior or undesirable.

[warm holly]

Is wolfram alpha good / worth it?

[worldly horizon]

Wdym by worth it?

It’s good imo I use it all the time

And it’s free by default

[vocal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/missy-elliot-reverse-it-gif-15151904

[worldly horizon]

So yeah it’s worth it. I couldn’t tell you about premium though since I don’t use it

[novel moth]

hi

[loud tinsel]

not feeling well

from many days

[void pollen]

and we STILL going, huh?

[old oak]

I mean, God is eternal

(in some religions, anyway)

[void pollen]

that guy states theres no god though..

[last rose]

I wasn’t addressing you, so no, there’s no “we” here. You’re welcome to join the discussion, provided you can remain calm and non-aggressive.

[last rose]

I’m claiming the definition of God in classical theism is contradictory

[old oak]

In which case the lack of God is eternal!

(unless the claim was that there is no God currently)

[void pollen]

[gusty sphinx]

Idk, I'm more of Spinoza's pantheism.

[last rose]

I’m not very familiar with Spinoza’s metaphysics. Is it the idea that God is a single infinite substance with infinite attributes (or that God is nature)? In other words, God is not a personal, willful creator; there’s no divine decision to make worlds, allow suffering, or design laws. Therefore, concepts like benevolence, omniscience, or purpose do not apply to God in a human or moral sense. If I’m right then may I ask what explanatory or metaphysical work does the term ‘God’ actually do? Why not just call it Nature and drop the theology?

[hazy shore]

this server should have a counting discord bot

[loud tinsel]

yes

[plucky rain]

i second this

[warm holly]

i should have been more specific, i was talking about the problem generator

cause i wanna create some practice questions

or do u have any recommendations for that?

[gusty sphinx]

Well, Spinoza's metaphysics is purely rational, although he rejects the transcendent rationality of Descartes and practically any philosopher who advocates for God as a separate entity from humans and the laws that govern us. Yes, Spinoza does not construct a personal god of humans, God encompasses everything (so to speak as the first general cause of the universe, imposing laws that make the rest of subjects possible, always possessing, as one of its components, God, nature, or directly the first cause. Thus, the divinity is explained in this way, it is precisely what is reasonable and proper in the universe. Regarding the word of God, it is difficult to eliminate the term, as it is more like a common name used to describe things, so to speak, of infinite characteristic and to some extent only with “relative”conclusion. Additionally, there are complex theologies that deny the existence of a human god, even Thomism, even though he uses the Christian image. There is a good group of people/philosophers who truly defend religious dogma, but well, that's why they are known as dogma, there is no empirical or schematizable proof that can be demonstrated, not like the logical propositions elaborated by Spinoza.

[ocean harbor]

how come?

[worldly horizon]

Ohhhh, yeah I think that one’s free. I only tested with radicals though, but it worked quite good.

[warm holly]

o alright perfect, thank you!

[last rose]

Thank you for elaborating on the position. I mostly agree with you, and his identification of 'God' with the single, self-caused substance that constitutes all reality certainly achieves some level of conceptual economy (in the sense that it resolves the Cartesian dualism of thought and extension.) However, I do think that Spinoza's claim seem to conflate ontological unity with explanatory sufficiency; that is, to declare that everything is one is not yet to explain why the one manifests as it does. In other words, the problem of modal individuation appears, in my view, to persist: if all finite things are just modes of the single substance, what distinguishes one mode from another except reference to the very multiplicity the system denies? The doctrine risks becoming tautological. Lastly, I do agree that thinkers such as Aquinas in their Thomist versions deploy the notion of God more as a grounding for metaphysical order, yet even there the language of attributes and essence remains tied to agency, albeit refined through scholastic distinction. In contrast, Spinoza's framework radically reconfigures agency into necessity.

[crude ravine]

I’m taking honors chem and ik it’s not a hard class but idk how to study for it at all. Anyone have recommendations or resources?

[stray willow]

Organic Chemistry YouTube channel

[ocean harbor]

<@&268886789983436800>

[sharp mulch]

rip daniboy

[ocean harbor]

ooo ur old pfp is back

[thorn wren]

No it’s just discord occasionally glitches and shows global profile, he’s still a cute twink

[sharp mulch]

lance

For some, this is my old pfp

[thorn wren]

Oh I just assumed people would’ve seen you have this one in the like month youve had it for, I forget we have grass touchers

[sharp mulch]

No like

I left the server for a while right

This was my server pfp before I left

[cinder zephyr]

I should change my pfp hmm

[astral surge]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-anyone-there-finding-nemo-darla-poking-gif-16843385601550954656

[fresh comet]

[jagged forge]

hi gher hru

[wispy totem]

is trig hard

also, if i'm in alg 2 now should i take ap stats next year and on level pre calc over the summer before jr year

or double up again and do ap precal and ap stat for the gpa boost

[fresh comet]

hi suremark, am okie

you?

[wispy totem]

it's manageable if i do online history and only take like honors english 11 or ap lang

fawk but chem nvm

[jagged forge]

i am recovering from a personal trainer session

my legs are in pain

but i’m managing

[fringe iris]

It's not paradoxical at all, it's an old argument based on anthropomorphism.
The point of omnipotence is being infinitely powerful, in short nothing can stop you, if a being whatsoever can't lift a rock then it confirms that he isn't omnipotent, simple as that.
You can observe 2 main flaws in the argument : the og argument that you can find on Wikipedia states "can god create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it" but since God or any omnipotent being is infinitely powerful the so part doesn't make sense whatsoever, it's begging the question.
The second flaw is thinking that creating a rock that you can't lift is a capacity, "i can create a rock that i can't lift so why not God" but in reality if i ask you to create a 10 kg rock that i couldn't lift you simply wouldn't be able to. The only thing you do is create the rock, lifting it or not is all about your own strength, and the rock's weight might exceed your strength obviously since like i said you're not infinitely powerful.
I did argue many times with atheists defending this argument and it simply does never work.

[polar temple]

if there is an omnipotent god, i'm sure he can make a rock so that he can't lift it but also make himself more powerful so he can lift it

[fringe iris]

It's still the same thing in the end, we can imagine that he might reduce/increase his capacity, but it simply won't end, it's an attribute.

Just playwords

[polar temple]

his power: ∞

[acoustic field]

but i feel like an omnipotent god is too omnipotent for humans to understand, i feel like they would be able to make it rain and not make it rain simultaneously

[polar temple]

like exodia

[polar temple]

what does that mean

in the same region?

[acoustic field]

theyre not bound to contradictions

[polar temple]

bro is deffo a quantum physicist

if we leave a cat trapped in a box for 10 days, is he dead or alive?

well he's both alive and dead

[fringe iris]

I used to have this perspective as well, but if you go on this road then there's simply no debate about what omnipotence possibly could be

[polar temple]

it's so sad people think schrodinger thought that way 😭

when was making fun of a belief in quantum physics

[fringe iris]

ikr

[polar temple]

but what does it mean to rain and not rain simultaneously in the same region?

[acoustic field]

how would i know, im not omnipotent

[polar temple]

you'd love quantum physics

[raven plaza]

Just because a sequence of words is grammatically correct in English doesn't make it meaningful

Can god make happiness green?

[lilac folio]

I’m an atheist, but I’ve always loved the question of possibility sooo

[polar temple]

happiness is an abstract concept

[lilac folio]

Yes I’m being vulnerable to someone’s subjective or objective perspective

[polar temple]

it doesn't have a physical form

so no it cannot be green

you can associate an abstract concept with emotions and represent them using colours

but it doesn't have a color

[lilac folio]

But technically it has its physical form through chemical reactions within your brain

[fringe iris]

"but if he's omnipotent he can achieve anything checkmate 🤓 "

[polar temple]

it's all made up by humans

[lilac folio]

Hence, disclaiming the fact that it doesn’t have a physical form, it has a more organic form

[polar temple]

yeah but that's like saying the queen can jump from a1 to h7 in chess

it makes no sense

[fringe iris]

im jk

agreed

[acoustic field]

i dunno, it just feels like logic and omnipotence dont mix well, but thats just me

[polar temple]

i don't think it's a paradox when you're just creating nonsensical ideas

[lilac folio]

Fair argument, welcome to the idea of a theory or a hypothesis :3

[raven plaza]

I think the conclusion here is omnipotence can't possibly mean "any grammatically correct string of English words can be realized"

[polar temple]

well our brain made up its physical form

we might associate green with envy

but envy isn't green

we just associated it

maybe in another planet, zorg associates envy with blue

is envy blue then?

or green?

which is it

[lone rover]

does a higher energy exist

[acoustic field]

monster energy drink does

[lone rover]

woah thanks man

[lilac folio]

Correct, it’s just something we have the tendency to relate with through emotional connection, societal aspects, and what memoirs we may have engraved within as well. But keep in mind, that even our language is just a reception of communication that must also be taking into consideration just as much as anything else, leaving us to question what the true level of neutral ground is, if we are to play by those rules.

[polar temple]

also we're in a maths server so i can say this

sqrt(-1) is a concept that exists

but it has no physical form

like happiness or frustration

you can't make sqrt(-1) green

that's stupid

[acoustic field]

well

[lilac folio]

Then what would be of our reactions in the given moment? Does that not get as real as it gets?

[acoustic field]

i can make a function that maps into it

[polar temple]

and i mean the actual value sqrt(-1)

not sqrt(-1) written down on paper

[agile fiber]

we can use complex numbers to represent 2D vectors

certainly there are 2D vector quantities in the world

[polar temple]

happiness is a concept. when we are "happy", our brain creates chemical reactions causing us to smile

if we have x^2 = -1 then sqrt(-1) conceptually exists here

still doesnt have a physical form

[lone rover]

well nothing is real, or atleast in the sense that we percieve it, our brain makes sense of what we can see but we can only comprehend a tiny fraction

[polar temple]

we made that up

you can say it's 2 right

6 up

we combined it into vectors ourself

[agile fiber]

i would argue that the components are more artificial than the vector

[polar temple]

the world only has natural numbers

half of 1 is just 2

😂

2 smaller pieces

[agile fiber]

but also if we're going to go all "we made that up" then there are no such thing as any numbers, including naturals

[polar temple]

we can see that there's two chairs

[agile fiber]

that's just a group of chairs

[polar temple]

but really only one and zero exis

ttwo chairs is just two of one chair

wait

i had a meme similar to this

where god was saying u made all that up

😭

it was on my old phone

[agile fiber]

the concept of "two" only exists as a point of comparison between one group of two things and another group of two things

[polar temple]

unfortunately i dont have it anymore

[lilac folio]

Then if you are rejecting the idea of true physical form, and solemnly taking into account only chemical reactions, what does it mean for something g to physically exist in your definition?

[polar temple]

like a chair

u can touch it

[acoustic field]

but thats just wood, no?

thats not even a chair

[polar temple]

anything u can touch

stop being philosophical

[agile fiber]

you can touch a chair, sure. can you touch "two"? no, you can just touch chairs

[polar temple]

😭

do we exist

or do we just think we exist

maybe none of our emotions are real

maybe we're just programmed to feel this way and don't really feel anything

[lilac folio]

Not really philosophical if I’m going off of a definition, you know da dragged it into the question of what it means to be real. But my counterclaim to that response is that I can physically see and feel my own smile looking through a mirror

[polar temple]

philosophy majors competing with cs majors to get to the homeless shelter

[polar temple]

yes well i was saying this because u cant make happiness green

makes no sense

they're separated forms

creating nonsensical scenarios isn't a paradox

[lilac folio]

Ah, so you never were really arguing about both being mixed, you were only debating the relative closeness to both ideas, noted

[polar temple]

maybe happiness exists or whatever

but u can't make it green

it has no colour

the true question is

[lilac folio]

This is going to seem like news to you but, the colors we see aren’t guaranteed to be their true color as well, even our line of sight is only subjected through our eyes, so who knows, maybe it’s literally every color imaginable in a scale of other eyes

[polar temple]

if there is no god, how did this complicated world with all this complex maths, physics, chemistry and life form come to be?

if there is a god, how did this all-powerful being who can create all this stuff come to be?

[lilac folio]

Now you’re getting to the major question, what is our true origin?

[polar temple]

if this universe randomly came to exist, would it not be most likely that nothing would work out? like all the maths and physics turns out wrong during the creation

making us not exist

maybe electrons were a teensy bit bigger

but the same goes for god existing

[lilac folio]

That is relatively by far one of the most beautiful yet mind-consuming arguments anyone can make coming from either a scientific or religious standpoint

[acoustic field]

i dunno if i was ever interested, but i lost interest

[lilac folio]

I slightly did, but that was because we reached a point in our conversation where there is controversy and it would probably take more than our lifespans to find a solution

[lilac folio]

Also, this technically counts a philosophical question to its extent btw :3

[polar temple]

yea well i wont really get hardcore athiesm

we dont know

[lilac folio]

The only thing I know for certain is tho…

I’m feeling eepy, night chat! :3

[last rose]

Basically the fine tuning argument

[earnest vigil]

Try to find comprehensible proofs of the Sylow theorems
Go to Timothy Gowers' blog on group actions
It begins: "I have a confession to make. . .I don't know the proofs of the Sylow theorems. In fact, I don't even know the statements."
See if Terence Tao has any posts about Sylow theorems
He has a post on MathOverflow about them
It begins: "As an undergraduate, I learned the Sylow theorems in my algebra classes but could never retain either the statement or proof"

[hot lion]

My favorite proof is the one where you prove it for general linear groups and then you prove that it holds for any group you can embed into the general linear group

https://qchu.wordpress.com/2020/11/01/meditation-on-the-sylow-theorems-i/ this blog post is pretty good and explains some of the details

although it doesn't give the best proof for GLn(Fp)

Here's the nice proof for that case: Suppose $H\leq GL_n(p)$ is a p-subgroup. Then H acts on the nonzero elements of $\mathbb{F}_p^n$ by matrix multiplication. This set has $p^n-1$ elements, which is not divisible by $p$, so there must be a vector $v$ fixed by H. Then H acts on the quotient $\mathbb{F}_p^n/(v)\cong \mathbb{F}_p^{n-1}$, any applying the same argument inductively you can find another vector fixed by H and repeat. Proceeding by induction yields a basis $v_1,v_2,\dots,v_n$ for under which $v_1$ is fixed by H, $v_2$ is fixed by H up to a multiple of $v_1$, $v_3$ is fixed by H up to an element in the span of $v_1,v_2$ and so on. If you then unwrap what this means, you realize that with respect to this basis each element of H is upper triangular

To complete the proof you just need to prove that the upper triangular subgroup is a p-group.

Moreover by this argument it follows immediately that every Sylow p-subgroup is conjugate (using the change of basis matrix defined by this basis) to the group of upper triangular matrices

[fathom swallow]

Blake

[old oak]

Are you familiar with the anthropic principle?

[zealous garden]

No, but such a thing is obviously not important or ubiquitous otherwise I would have encountered it

[last rose]

It's similar to the Boltzmann Brain thought experiment

[polar temple]

No

Wait

I'll look into this stuff later

I don't want to rn

[gentle vessel]

anyone up for some math, code and science discussions?

[last rose]

What kind of discussion?

[gentle vessel]

any lol

[faint light]

this is so real

[velvet dagger]

Have to plug my proof

http://math.uchicago.edu/~may/REU2016/REUPapers/Idelhaj.pdf

[inner canopy]

I'm gonna call the moderators on ur ass for self promotion

Utterly unacceptable

[velvet dagger]

Hi gonna call the moderators on ur ass for self promotion

I'm Dami

[inner canopy]

I am the watcher

Gazing upon all

[inner canopy]

Your false imitations of the real dami don't fool me

[analog abyss]

isn’t this the usual proof?

[inner canopy]

Witchcraft I proclaim!

[inner canopy]

Lol I was about to say

[inner canopy]

Why do you dislike the group actions proof?

I think it's a very good exercise to demonstrate the power of group actions

[earnest vigil]

I understand each of the steps, but not where they come from

[velvet dagger]

The one my algebra class covered didn't use group actions

[inner canopy]

Okay well I can definitely see where you're coming from

However I think it's instructive to dwell on the proof

Because group actions are a fundamental tool for many results in group theory

And it's good to have a real hard think about why this works
Hell it's probably best to discuss the proof in #groups-rings-fields

Sorta lay out your ideas and someone will help you get the points where you don't see where the ideas come from

[burnt ledge]

Ts is when i started

✌️

[mint canopy]

@real jacinth We don't allow unsolicited advertisements in this server, I'm going to remove this message now I'm afraid.

[last rose]

Please don’t be afraid.

[unkempt moat]

W pfp

W bio also

Meow

[teal lantern]

Is there a chem discord?

[agile fiber]

#old-network

[polar temple]

I'll hold your hand through this if it makes you feel better

As long as you don't feel afraid

[loud tinsel]

[unborn token]

The love I have for combinatorics is unparelleled by anything else in the world

Except cheese ig

[zealous garden]

Imagine having a continuous map to F_2

[ocean harbor]

hi @zealous garden im replying to ur sully on my message #study-discussion message

vectors were so stupid in calc when I took it in hs and i started liking them after learning linear algebra

[tight copper]

dedication, replying to others emote reactions

[ocean harbor]

here are some part of my notes I wrote before in latex

they taught me that way

[fresh comet]

shiny

[ocean harbor]

I even talked about this with my friend before so

(btw this is from hlounge which I cannot access to it )

[true zinc]

WAIT YOU WROTE THIS?

I FOUND THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO RANDOMLY

WTF

[zealous garden]

Gross fr

[latent edge]

[lament notch]

NO WAY YOU WROTE THIS I RANDOMLY FOUND IT ON THE INTERNET AND READ IT A WEEK AGO!!!

[lament notch]

Me too wow

[loud tinsel]

is there any way to disable discussion channels

[worthy shell]

you can either get the studying role by doing ,iamstudying and then you wont be able to open disc, disc2, math disc, or you can just remove disc1 and disc2 from channel list

[loud tinsel]

ohk thank u so much

[trim stone]

My goodness,
does anybody recognize this equation:

R{[(1 + i)^n - 1]/i}?

Can somebody also turn this into LaTex?

[vernal token]

That's not an equation

Is R a constant?

[trim stone]

Oops expresssion

All leters are variables

[vernal token]

Is {} just a variety of () here to denote multiplication?

[trim stone]

yup!

{[( are all used as parentheses

[vernal token]

$R \l(\frac{(1 + i)^n - 1}{i}\r)$

[fathom swallow]

Kepe

[trim stone]

yup that one

Do any of you recognize this?

[vernal token]

Do you want a simplification?

[trim stone]

Nope, I just to know if anybody recognizes this

[worthy shell]

looks like avg rate of change of graph of y= Rx^n between points x=1 and x=1+i idk

[vernal token]

You get exponents like that for finance stuff, maybe something about that

[trim stone]

yup!

[crude ravine]

Anyone here take the psat 10/11

[last rose]

Future value of an ordinary annuity

[tranquil moat]

who know how to mapple app for math

[vapid lance]

... ?

[ocean harbor]

whats this?

[trim stone]

I was asking that because I was suspicious of the Philippine, or at least my current school's, curriculum.

[vernal knoll]

6! =6x5x4x3x2x1?

[rich orbit]

Yeah

[vernal knoll]

Fine

Ty

[earnest vigil]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomfgoodwin/status/1981392894817948137

[unreal canopy]

WHY IS KINEMATICS SOOOO ANNOYING

[ocean harbor]

skill issue

[split lark]

WHY ARE YOU HARRASING ME

CAN SOMEONE BAN HIM

[ocean harbor]

dm @polar panther

[neat lintel]

100!=9.333×10¹⁵⁷

[young quest]

is calculating 1000! manually worth a potential bonus grade? /srs

[burnt ledge]

no

[young quest]

do u think i should do it anyway tho?

i can get it down to a mltiplication of prime numbers (however it's called in eng) and go from there

[burnt ledge]

no

[young quest]

i got the prime numbers ready though

[burnt ledge]

dont do it

[young quest]

i almost did 30! for a plus

and 1000! seems like a nice round number

[wraith magnet]

vro

ion think you understand how large that is

[young quest]

10^300-ish

[wraith magnet]

uh huh and you gonna do that manually?

[young quest]

i am curious how long will it take

[wraith magnet]

4.02387260077093773543702433923003985719374864210714632543799910429938512398629020592044208486969404800479988610197196058631666872994808558... × 10^2567

[young quest]

well i was an order of magnitude off but still

[wraith magnet]

30! seems manageable

[young quest]

10^30-ish, didn't finish it in class tho so I forgot to do it

[burnt ledge]

No lol

[burnt ledge]

No lol

you were more than two thousand orders of magnitude off

[young quest]

an order of magnitude in the exponent tho

[burnt ledge]

thats what orders of magnitude are already

[young quest]

ik but still

[hot rivet]

can anyone help me with rational functions here

[ocean harbor]

!help

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[ionic fractal]

If i dm you will you really get every thing i own?

[ocean harbor]

its meant for weirdos

basically this

[ionic fractal]

[ionic fractal]

Assume i am a weirdo
Now all i own is an empty wallet bunch of books and notebooks

And also an 7 years old smartphone which is no longer smart from which i'm texting this

[ocean harbor]

[ionic fractal]

So which university you study

?

[ocean harbor]

its not important to know which university im studying from but I can tell u what im majoring rn

[ionic fractal]

Ok in which country you're studying in

[ocean harbor]

canada

[ionic fractal]

You're a big ADO fan
Its everywhere on your profile

[ionic fractal]

Ohh

What does major mean ?

[ocean harbor]

oh yeah im obsessed with her music 🙂

[ocean harbor]

google it

[ionic fractal]

[ionic fractal]

Your favs

[ocean harbor]

major is the main field of study a student specializes in to earn a degre

• google

[ocean harbor]

wait

i only downloaded my favourite ones as im always listen to them offline

[ionic fractal]

Why no one ever asks me if i'm a boy

[ionic fractal]

So you're currently doing your bachelor's degree?

[ocean harbor]

well it says ur he/him so im thinking ur a boy

[ocean harbor]

yes

[ionic fractal]

Ohhhhhhhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[ocean harbor]

here are my fav songs from ado

[ocean harbor]

u need to get active or higher

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/Gwq29qDbgAAX3Zl.gif

[ionic fractal]

This is my alt

[ocean harbor]

oh whats ur main?

[ocean harbor]

I honestly dunno anyone unless u give me ur previous username or ur actual main acc

bc I almost forgot everyone

[full edge]

I'm not getting this channel in my main id

[ocean harbor]

do u know how developer mode works?

send me ur id

[full edge]

No

[full edge]

I'm not able to see my main if i'm trying to mention it

Wtf is this

[ocean harbor]

go to ur main settings click on advanced and then "developer mode" turn that on

[full edge]

So?

[ocean harbor]

do u have it friended?

u could still get the id

[full edge]

No

Let me try somethin

[ocean harbor]

wdym 😭

[full edge]

Nvm

[ocean harbor]

this is what im referring to

[full edge]

In which id am i supposed to do it

[ocean harbor]

copy user id

e.g urs is 1431014033255043213

[full edge]

This id or main

[ocean harbor]

i dont even know ur main

so this is ur id of ur alt

[full edge]

Now even i don't know

[full edge]

This is my alt

[ocean harbor]

not even username???

lame

[ocean harbor]

ik u told me this

[warm lance]

is your other acc called Thoth-01?

[full edge]

I logged out of this id
Then logged in my main
And i wasn't able to get this channel

[full edge]

No

But i may be another alt of mine

[ocean harbor]

why?

[full edge]

[ocean harbor]

studying role?

[full edge]

Don't know

[ocean harbor]

i still have no idea who r u really

but nice to meet u ig

[full edge]

Now evem i don't know

Ig i have DID

[ocean harbor]

u know i only recognize ppl who usually message me daily

[ocean harbor]

okay so

ur main id is 1311996569859395679

when i say open the developer mode means u can ping any account using this <@ID>

@ember carbon

easy right?

[ember carbon]

Yes

Here i am

[ocean harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017309011974037504/1378077293200674969/tumblr_68cbdbd8c8f23e60618f1c0977dec15c_eaf41d7c_1280.webp

[ember carbon]

Thanks

[ember carbon]

?

[ocean harbor]

kirby is reading algebraic topology

[ember carbon]

Who is kirby

?

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/food-coma-food-eat-starving-kirby-gif-4698182

this

[ember carbon]

Pokemon?

[ocean harbor]

no

its coming from kirby series

[ember carbon]

What's that

[ember carbon]

Ohh videogame

Series

Never knew

Never played

[ocean harbor]

now u know

[ember carbon]

So you're originally from canada

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdo-cat-meme-cat-hat-gif-4436285530503254321

[ember carbon]

?

@polar panther

[ocean harbor]

?

why do u ask 😭

[ember carbon]

Just curious

Don't worry i'm not gonna reach your doorstep ever
I live on the opposite side of the world very far from you
Plus i'm broke

[ocean harbor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769817529253494814/850960016827482172/image0-4.gif

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/emu-otori-gif-11331968393500167856

[ember carbon]

Do You watch anime?

[ocean harbor]

i used to

[delicate reef]

Yes

[ocean harbor]

havent watched anime in years

[ember carbon]

[delicate reef]

You missing out a little

[ember carbon]

Your fav

[delicate reef]

Some good stuff out

[ocean harbor]

such as?

[ember carbon]

Frieren

Aot ig

[delicate reef]

Opm season 3

[delicate reef]

Yes

[ember carbon]

[ember carbon]

You will like frieren
It's very soothing calm and peaceful

[ember carbon]

Didn't saw that coming

[ocean harbor]

i dont remember anything tbh

[ember carbon]

What was your last

One

[ocean harbor]

jojo

[ember carbon]

Ohh

I wanna see that too
But not getting time

[ocean harbor]

no wait

its uzumaki

[ember carbon]

It was recently released

You said you haven't seen in yeara

[warm lance]

naruto uzumaki

[ocean harbor]

ya well I meant last year

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

but i stopped in 2022

someone recommended to watch uzumaki

[ember carbon]

[ember carbon]

I recommend you watch frieren

[ocean harbor]

nope

[ocean harbor]

if i only get free time

[latent edge]

U have free time

[ocean harbor]

im an engineering student

[ember carbon]

What do you do all day

[latent edge]

Don't use discord

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

I use discord as deltoid said

[ember carbon]

Which branch

[ocean harbor]

biomedical

[ember carbon]

Whose deltoid

[ocean harbor]

^

[ocean harbor]

give me review on it

[latent edge]

Watch frieren

It's great

[ember carbon]

Haven't watched muself

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-fire-flames-hot-gif-7599056546983191152

[ember carbon]

But i know its great

[ocean harbor]

fair

[ember carbon]

Whats that german written on your about me

[warm lance]

i like frieren

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

im gonna watch one piece red film

[ember carbon]

What are you doing now
Studying math

[ember carbon]

I haven't watched one piece
Never gonna prob

[ocean harbor]

just chilling and im waiting for my friend to help me with next digital lab

[ocean harbor]

red film is different

[ember carbon]

What time it is in canada

[ocean harbor]

9pm

[ember carbon]

New genesis

[ember carbon]

It's night there

Ohh

[tall badge]

ado soundtrack 😄

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-ado-cute-cute-cake-ado-silly-gif-12135037861612923039

[ember carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-one-piece-uta-gif-27019789

[ember carbon]

You didn't answered my question

[ocean harbor]

i havent watched it but the music is goated so thats why I want to watch

[ember carbon]

How to get an official government post in this server?

[ocean harbor]

when u said i have main i thought u already had image perms

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[ember carbon]

I joined this sever months back thinking i might be helpfull

But never was here

[warm lance]

ymirfritz

[light gate]

meow

[warm lance]

woem

[ocean harbor]

or maybe unhelpful

[ember carbon]

Man i was supposed to sleep

But it's already 6 46

Am

[ocean harbor]

jeez

yeah u better sleep lol

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

gngn

[ember carbon]

I woke up at 1 am

Then ordered some food

At 3 cuz i was getting hungry

Then sat on my chair till 5

Then download discord

And here i am

So good i am, aren't i?

[ember carbon]

Why am i not able to send you friend request

[ember carbon]

Ohh that's why i can't send it

[ocean harbor]

ya

[warm lance]

Friend of friends

albert u should friend renato first

[ember carbon]

I don't after this when will we talk next

[warm lance]

renato is everyone's mutual friend

[ember carbon]

I try to avoid discord
It eats up a lot of time of mine

I'm not able to become crazy becuz of dc
And i want to become crazy

[ember carbon]

[ocean harbor]

im gonna play pjsk rn

it was nice chatting with ya but im not accepting random requests

[ember carbon]

Ok bye
I was amazing talking to some foreigners across the globe

Guess we'll meet some day again

https://tenor.com/view/sayonara-yato-noragami-gif-17109642939622372392

[warm lance]

you're a foreigner too (in other foreigners pov)

[warm lance]

https://tenor.com/view/sayonara-yato-noragami-gif-17109642939622372392

[ember carbon]

But the place from where i belong to
It's a big this to get to talk to a foreigner

[ocean harbor]

or maybe not

[ember carbon]

I'm too naive

[fresh comet]

[harsh gull]

GUYSA

I NEED

HELP

WITH

MATH

WHOS GONNA HELP ME

[true zinc]

!help

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-lulu-adolulu-rule-gif-8718047222249257473

[bronze pelican]

Why ado making music videos with the creepy face?

[jaunty zodiac]

@harsh gull yeah sure

[ember carbon]

Don't get so full of yourself

[lapis holly]

"I'm struggling with math, I feel like it's not for me. I spend an incalculable amount of time on my coursework without understanding anything. I find it indigestible

[ocean harbor]

idk, it looks funny to me

a lot people doesn't like this song but it's one of my favorites 🙂

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/food-snail-mmm-tasty-delicious-gif-21470000

[ember carbon]

Hey don't you check your dms

[ocean harbor]

uwu in dms? I don't really check my dms these days except for my irl friends

[neat lintel]

does anyone know if there is a type of extension/application for pc for typing the special characters and math script because sometimes its really annoying to search up something with functions as words, etc.

[hardy iron]

Don’t post this in like many channels

[ember carbon]

I can't come to canada

[warm lance]

it's canada, not cannotada

canadoo

[ember carbon]

Didn't get it

Don't know what he said
Just know that he was wrong

[ocean harbor]

he said tim hortons

which is kinda true

[ember carbon]

Ohh get it

It's some restaurant

[ocean harbor]

[jaunty zodiac]

Hii

[ember carbon]

I won't talk to you
You haven't completed your roles

[jaunty zodiac]

And what is my role

[ember carbon]

Just go and complete it

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[night venture]

aaa

[crimson perch]

Does anyone here use Obsidian?

(and its vim mode)

[deft moth]

What

[fervent python]

hey guys anyone? is there any channel for math related to conics

[tawdry aurora]

Hello guys

[true zinc]

Conics are #geometry-and-trigonometry

[fervent python]

thanks you!

[random summit]

Is trigonometry used in the real world

[jagged forge]

yes

you might as well ask if angles are used in the real world...

[true zinc]

Frequently

any time you need to compute with angles

[obtuse grail]

Hi

[light gate]

hi!

[obtuse grail]

How are you all doing

[obtuse grail]

Hey

[neat lintel]

hewwo!

[fresh comet]

hello discussion 2

[fresh comet]

https://tenor.com/view/mumei-lantern-mumei-mumei-original-song-gif-5194944423715910995

is your username a reference to that Mumei?

[neat lintel]

no, but i think that owl is cool :)

[fresh comet]

I see :o
which Mumei is it then?

[neat lintel]

ummm it's just my name lol

[fresh comet]

that makes you the first Mumei I've ever met then

[neat lintel]

Hii :P nice to meet you

[fresh comet]

nice to meet you!

[neat lintel]

i recognize this emoji i think. where is it from if you don't mind my asking?

[fresh comet]

ah, just from another server I'm in

I don't know its origin

[neat lintel]

ic ic, my friend uses that one a lot so was curious

[fresh comet]

it's a good emote for sure

[neat lintel]

i like it. i think its cute

watcha up toos?

[fresh comet]

today? mostly nothing

mostly spent the day relaxing, since I'm on break from school for a week now

and I'm totally out of it haha

how about you?

[neat lintel]

so valid for that tbh

mostly same, relaxing and enjoying my weekend since i finished my assignments early

[fresh comet]

awesome!

I've got a few more academics related things to do on the break, but I'm putting those off for now

two more midterms after this week is over

[neat lintel]

.< gl gl!

[fresh comet]

tanq, and good luck with your studies too

[pliant galleon]

guys guys

can any one help me

i am looking for a book

book of integrals by miguel santiago

i need soft copy

[neat lintel]

oh wait no gifs qq

[pliant galleon]

cmn man

tf

[fresh comet]

hi there!

this server has some rules regarding discussions of piracy, but I'll say that can probably find the book on one of a handful of places

'shadow library' is your key phrase here, and I will say nothing more

[neat lintel]

mhm, i agree with higher. insert that one song composed by Klaus Badelt

[neat lintel]

are you uni or hs?

[neat lintel]

also thx

[fresh comet]

I'm in my third year of undergrad

how about you?

[neat lintel]

same, second year of undergrad

[fresh comet]

nice

are you a maths student? :o

[neat lintel]

comp sci.. sobs

my dad was begging me to get a math degree the other day cause i wouldn't stop talking about math xD

[worn nest]

You could minor in maths

[neat lintel]

i could yeah

[worn nest]

Any projects that you're working on? I'm a first year CS looking for project ideas 🤣

[neat lintel]

i don't have the finance atm for more classes

[fresh comet]

can you get any financial aid?

[fresh comet]

I think CS is cool, but it's not for me haha

[neat lintel]

i've been doing bash scripts mostly as of late

[worn nest]

Isn't that like

code that you can run via the terminal

[neat lintel]

mhm

yuppers

[worn nest]

Not too sure what one can do with that

haven't had much experience with it

[neat lintel]

i've grown to appreciate it more recently. i enjoy it most when their is a good language book with nice problem sets

[worn nest]

I've been planning to implement stuff like linear regression from scratch with low-level languages

[neat lintel]

ummm depends on your os heavily

[worn nest]

Well, I'm on debian

[neat lintel]

oh then a lot

[worn nest]

I will def look into it, my initial idea was to build a plugin for neovim

Just trying to explore more ideas atm

[neat lintel]

neovim use lua for plugins iirc

[worn nest]

Yea

[neat lintel]

which is reccomend

fun language

[worn nest]

lua's a pretty easy scripting language too, which is a plus

[neat lintel]

i love cc:tweaked especially

[worn nest]

cc:tweaked?

[neat lintel]

minecraft mod that let's you code robots with lua to automate stuff

completely recreational but yk

[worn nest]

Doesn't look bad, but I'm pretty far from video games 🤣

There's also 3D projects that one could do with openGL, but it's pretty ambitious considering how hard it is with C++

[neat lintel]

mhm true, it's not that ambitious i feel

[jagged forge]

i made an ai chatbot in cc tweaked

[worn nest]

It's kind of ironic how i'm saying that it's hard when something like vulkan exists

[neat lintel]

that's cool

[jagged forge]

(it just calls out to openai)

still pretty fun tho

[neat lintel]

mhm, i'm reading this good opengl book right now

it's just called learnopengl

[worn nest]

Yea, heard of that source

[neat lintel]

it's very nice and eases you in

[worn nest]

It's pretty popular and nice to read

You have to constantly practice it, though