#study-discussion
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newbie here-
can some tell me how to complete like 10 books within a month and a half- got my finals cmin and im in complete panic mode
10 books in a month, especially if they are mathematics texts, is not really possible
10 books, like literature 😭 . If it’s math books like tcc says it’s gonna be near impossible. I finish a book a month (math text) and even that’s stretching it$
i just want a roadmap for calcus 2 im so bad at math in every angle i want a deep roadmap for math from pre algerba to algbra and geometry to pre calc to calc 1 to calc 2 pls help i dont understand anything atp im not moving anywhere my mentallity is crushed.
im a 12th grader i pass exams but dont understand anything
This's my question, you want to study Math as a major or just want to pass exam?
i want to understand
i pass exam with highest grades in class but this is only cuz its easy pre calc starting but soon it will be doomed
i want to understand why and how this links to life
say the guy with the highest grade "im so bad at math in every angle"
If you already have a strong background in pre-calc nothing stop you from getting good in calc
my class is dumb anyways its basic and teacher grades to understanding not correct questons
pls ms.fionna help
What basic it is, and everything come from the basic so you don't really have to worry that much
If you unsure, you can just revise the basic then move on
The thing is, people like me myself, I spent a large amount of time studying difficult vector-2D geo, limit and function in depth
It like huge amount of time, if you just now start to do so you won't be able to catch up with calc in class
So the best is just learn the basic, then when you come a cross a calc problem that require limit/function in depth knowledge
You learn from that problem, that's the only way
Ehhhh, tbf it's not worth it to learn everying you learnt in depth cuz most of them end up not be used anyway
but i dont understand anything till its in depth i think like why is calcus calcus? yk what is it where can i apply it to my life yk.
so you think only for calcus 1 and 2 to learn whats essential?
ehh you can watch video about those real world application
It's every where in the internet
try to find some other resource to study from
10 books is definitely not possible, I would make a list of concepts on the test you're most confused about and go through it one by one
thats a bit off
maybe it makes bookkeeping easier?
thats pretty horrible lol
100% of the stress on one day
cant even chill thinking like "oh, ill bring it back next midterm so its alr"
i see
for me its class dependent
my PDEs class has 2 midterms and one final i think
and same for my lin alg class
your grade is best mostly on your final?
you have an oral exam?
tf
thats like
miserable
they're just turning you into a walking textbook 😭
like do they ask you how to prove every theorem or they ask you how you would prove something using those theorems
thats interesting though
i feel like for math classes in my university normally they care more about how well you're able to apply techniques you learned throughout the course, so like maybe the proof for something looks similar to a proof for another theorem but they wouldnt ask you to reprove something you already learnt
but thats probably what your written exam is for
It should realistically be like around a section a day at most and even that can be much much less depending on the book
Hartshorne is literally like a page or two a day
😭
if the books are like
super duper undergrad - y
then reading a bunch of it isnt cope since they fluff it up a little
but books where every single page is 5 corollaries and two theorems with every other theorem left as an exercise
Hairy balls thereom?
i laughed at this page
Felt, it really does matter per book though
Like rudin would be like that maybe around 1-3 pages a day
which is almost a section tbf in that text
I read 10 pages, is abott a lot more trivial
a page a day, wow :o
yeah i jest, that sounds about right when i was still reading it lmao
depends on book
Well shit
What about hartshorne
Oh shit that’s alg geo
Sorry, I meant Hatcher, how do I lock in so I can become better at alg top fr Dr
hartshorne took me a page a day, with guided study for a class it should speed things up quite a bit
I don’t study at all anymore lmao
but if you're doing it solo it would surprise me if you was able to do anything past 4 pages per day
I read like a page a day but imma speed it up cause I do need to finish analysis in a month
Wait point set or
Oh I thought alg top
Time to lock in 
hatcher should be quite a bit faster, it's written in a much more leisurely tone and is considerably less dense than hartshrone
not going
not applying this year (thank god)
I forgot hchan is a sweat
this year applications are cooked
no I need one more year
yes i am
i need one more year
oh yeah you do
so what that means is i will do it roughly at the start of my next school year
no, I am taking an extra year
for undergrad
im gonna be honest my guy its straight up not happening
no, I dont
my university is good but not elite
I will
think 30 ish in US rankings
good enough for the math dept here to have a very rich offering of classes i can take and that's good enough for me
I could, ill consider it when it comes to that
i didn't choose to do an extra year because of trump i need it to finish my other major
only slightly better, EE
Hell no
My CV at this point is heavily geared towards a math phd anyways
do it
I can do that one better, one physical textbook of your choosing
erdős strat /j
weird, clearly someone very active here
I don't think getting banned necessarily deletes all your messages, so they might have deleted them themselves
seems to be the case here (the latter)
when banning someone we can pick whether to delete a range of recent msgs
i'm aware that is a thing but self-botting is against discord ToS 
fr?
are you like aurafarming?
Hopefully
I just need to study later undergrad/early grad student material and then just continuously study the early grad student material until I get a breakthrough
Other students (mainly PhD students) will disagree and it is quite unconventional but I’m bored
You have aura
So my name day's coming up and I wanna gift my classmates a full summary of what we have done so far in set theory. My opinion as to what I should emphasize on, is just writing every equality or definition we have written, without any proofs. Should I include the proofs under each respective equality, or should I skip them? maybe I could make a separate file in which I include every proof that's necessary. What y'all think chat?
btw im writing in latex so factor in the time it takes to write there rather than on paper
Skip proofs in the main summary. List all equalities and definitions clearly. Create a separate file for proofs to keep the main document concise and focused.
yeah thats my main idea. its a lotta work tho and ill get bored
are the GRE practice tests known to have occasional errors
on a practice test I was just working on, they defined a group homorphism and said its kernel was {1,11}
no 0

wait maybe im dumb
is 0 even in a group
im thinking of an additive group since it was over Z mod 30 but maybe they meant a multiplicative group
i took abstract algebra awhile ago i don rembr
hence i ask here
this is the specific problem
with my notes and attempted solution scribbled on it, as you can see
(I can't find the erase feature)
U30 is a multiplicative group, it doesn't contain 0
oh i see why 1 is 0 now
yea 1 is your identity, and 11 is its own inverse
so I'd guess that using an additive relationship was not the right way to find a match for 7
ya everything relatively prime to 30
right
follows from the euclidean algorithm
poor 29 got neglected, not that it matters here 😆
ax+by=1
so then do i take 7 and multiply by 11 since it's an identity
then mod 13
30
yay
ya I'll use f
f(7)=f(7)f(11)
=f(77)=f(17)=7
minus 60
thank you
thanks to you as well
If this channel isn't active, is it an okay place to ask GRE math subject test-type questions
I don't use this server too much
so idk the unspoken rules
okay
ty
How do you guys organize your paper when writing? Like, do you have one book where you neatly write your proofs, and one for scribbling and calculations? I often find when proving stuff that I need to remind myself of some basic lemma, so I grab some scrap paper, but then if I get stuck proving that lemma, I need some extra scrap paper for my scrap paper, and so on and so on, so my desk is a mess of paper 
I don't want to do either of those 😠
are tablets really that good? how does it compare to writing on paper? and how does it organize your notes?
no don't edit it, I liked it when it was big 
I've a lot of talk about a tablet called remarkable, how does it compare to apple and samsung?
the e-ink display looks kinda nice, but I'm guessing it's less responsive?
wait, remarkable is norwegian? 
so you're saying that if I go for samsung, I wouldn't need to go for galaxy S10 for example? What would you recommend?
it seems some are saying that apple has a better writing pen than samsung, so maybe apple is a better choice
I'm in Norway, you know how far away I am 😭
Yes, I'm very lucky to have both an Apple store and a non-Apple store in walking distance 
oh right, I forgot they have apple things in non-apple stores 😅
svalbard is the height of civilisation
jesus, now I know why you recommend ipad a16 instead of something more expensive: ipad pro costs 3700 USD 💀 who would spend that much on a tablet?
yeah, the ipad a16 looks decently priced, I can get it for 500 USD here
what's the advantage with ipad air?
also, do you have an opinion on size? 11 inches is that enough?
||no dirty jokes please||
it seems ipad a16 only comes in 11 inches, but ipad air comes in 11 and 13
yeah, thanks for the recommendations
I'll try it tomorrow
yeah, the ipad wouldn't necessarily be much cheaper than a remarkable
what's the deal with people deleting all their messages in this channel? 
you did? and then you had to delete all your messages, not just one? 🤔 I don't think the discord TOS are that strict, if that's what you're worried about
if you mean asking mq if he smuggles ipads from the US, that's definitely not something you can get banned for 
if u want to get an iPad I'd suggest getting android rather than apple
apple sucks ass (I have it)
yeah I agree
since I use apple I'd say all the apps they have requires u to pay
especially goodnotes bc I heard it's good
I'm using note+ and it's my favorite 🙂
how?
it has limited stuff 💔
oooo
how is that possible
ah
guess I'm late then lol
its time to install apps using slideloadly 
hacking apps
yep
sure 
There is apparently a lot of potentional lashback that may happen with actively going on with GoodNotes bc of Goodnotes 7 coming soon
I got goodnotes 5 with lifetime and once they introduced goodnotes 6 and required users to pay a subscription to use the new update i basically went like wtf
So I havent really used it since
yeah it requires a subscription now and it has limited stuff 
i use note+ and its so much better lol
I stick to paper and pen + latex 
nowadays im getting lazy to make notes on latex bc most of them has drawings 
and that requires tikz
i suck at it
There are so many tools I have found that helps
such as?
There is an online tikzcd website, I also use mathcha
oh ill look into this, thanks
mathcha is free to use, but they only let you use the website. Its cheap for a year tho, iirc its like $5
ic
That lets you download and use it on your comp
wait i think i remember opening that once and never used it that much
how does tikz actually work in there?
does it generate latex code for u once u make the diagram?
You can type out equations in latex, uses basic ams tho so not really anything custom. The creation of like diagrams with shapes or objects does take a little bit of a learning curve to get used to
Yeah it lets you copy the tikz code
It does give those warnings, but I have yet for it to fail
It also does let you print the images for importing in figures
Id recommend trying out the website just to see if its worth, its free so why not
ok ill try look into this
also how did u get this
When you create a diagram, you can go to the top to export it as tikz
okay that makes sense, thanks a lot man 🙂
But I still recommend learning TiKz, I have seen some crazy stuff that def got me into it
Nws!
Imo, its like latex, you just pick things up as you use it
im only gonna use it for drawing stuff bc im too lazy
felt
These are some of things that inspired me to learn
@tight siren they have crazier ones (he made the ones above too)
Me neither 
Nice!
you should look into circuitikz
%% in preamble
% \usepackage{circuitikz}
\usetikzlibrary{positioning}
\ctikzset{logic ports = ieee}
%% In main document
\begin{circuitikz}
\node (A) {A};
\node[below = of A] (B) {B};
\node[below = of B] (C) {C};
\draw (A) to ++(1,0) nodeand port, anchor=in 1{};
\draw (C) to (C -| and1.in 1) nodeand port, anchor=in 2{};
\draw (B) to (B -| and1.in 1) to (and1.in 2) to (and2.in 1);
\draw (and1.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodenot port, anchor=in{} (not1.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodeor port, anchor=in 1{} (or.out) to ++(1,0) node[right]{Y};
\draw (and2.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodenot port, anchor=in{} (not2.out) to ++(1,0) |- (or.in 2);
\end{circuitikz}
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I have a question, I'm dyslexic and I struggle too much with numbers, since this server is big I'm sure you've had other people, what study method do you recommend?
I have a quant strats Superday coming up. Need genuine help in all the math concepts I should go thru. Preferably in order of importance
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could u be more specific about the numbers ur having trouble with?
Genuinely, how do you all study math? I’ve taken all the higher-level math classes and passed with 70s or higher without really studying. I’ll admit I struggled here and there, but scraping by with a 70 without studying felt pretty good. Now I’m in grade 11, which is a really important year for me. I need at least a high 80, but I just got my progress report back and I’m sitting at a 57. I only have six weeks until midterms, so that mark needs to change drastically. I studied all weekend for my first test and still failed, so I honestly don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve got a quiz tomorrow, and I’m kind of panicking. Sorry for the story dump I just really need some effective math study
What does your studying look like currently? And for concreteness, what are you learning about right now in class?
I would look over lessons then do problems over and over and over. We just started new unit and the quiz tomorrow morning is on Translations and Reflections, Stretches and Compressions, Function Transformations. I just got back from a hockey tournament and need to somehow cram all of this in tonight
And what do you do during class?
Take notes
What do you feel like you struggle with the most? Is it like time management, or do you feel like you're putting a lot of time in and still not effectively absorbing the concepts?
Are you able to do the practice problems on the quiz concepts
I feel like I put a lot of time in and still just blank on a test or quiz. No my teacher doesn’t release specific practice problems specifically for the quiz or test
You mentioned doing problems over and over, where do you get those problems from? And do you do the same problems multiple times?
I usually try to form them from lesson example questions, and switch up the general concept of the question and mix numbers around and I’ll do this multiple times
Ah okay, do you also have a textbook that you can draw problems from? KhanAcademy also has a lot of practice exercises you can try
Forming practice problems for yourself is generally a great idea, do you find that you can do them or is it a struggle?
I can do them but I get to the test and I blank out I feel there must be something way more efficient
Hmmm have you tried doing stuff like concept maps? Like writing down a graphic organizer of all the different concepts you can remember off the top of your head from the lesson and then drawing lines between connected concepts
That usually helps me organize my thoughts
Also when you try to do the practice problems, are you looking at the notes or doing them completely on your own? Usually it helps to try to make your study environment as similar to your test environment as possible so your brain is already comfortable working in that kind of space
I'm studying for my precal midterm right now and have been for the past week or 2 and im honestly just so exhausted and struggling a lot mentally trying to get all I need to pass it since I HAVE to get a good grade to keep my scholarship. Does anyone have any advice for what I should focus on getting down? Like I just don't know where to start and it's so stressful not knowing how or where to start
Theres also so much to memorize but I don't even know all I should memorize -3-
The only things I know for sure rn is that I suck at fractal decomposition and I need to memorize the key points of trig functions, unit circle values, and the trig values for the various type of right triangles
In general, I have problems with numbers, even basic things like fractions, etc.
things like $\frac{3}{4}x$?
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t hank you so much
Money?! Where??
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Yes
try practicing problems if u want to get better at solving this
khan academy
Thx

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it's a good thing he'll be the one implanting mind chips into our brains
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man i want to be able to study for hours on end, but i end up rotting on my phone or letting my social life take up the entire day
i know i have it in me to study more, ive studied for like 7 hours straight some days. I just can't do it consistently
i enjoy math/computer science, and i have a decent understanding of stuff. I just don't know why i cant sit down and get stuff done.
🧢
i get it, this is a really common problem, so don't be too hard on yourself. u have already shown u can focus for a long time. the key is just doing it more often. for me, starting things early helps me a lot. even when i don't feel like it, just getting going takes away so much stress, and i still end up getting things done without last minute panic. since your phone is a big distraction, try leaving it in another room when u need to study. it sounds simple, but it really works
also, try starting with a super small goal. don't plan to study for hours. just plan for like one hour. anyone can do one hour or less and once u start, it's easier to keep going
and don't forget to take breaks and do stuff u enjoy, like a walk, listen to music, or a hobby. that's basically not wasted time but rather it helps your brain rest and come back stronger(this is what I usually do as a hobby
)
u already like the stuff u study, so ur halfway there. just make it a little easier to start and dont forget to take care of yourself. u've got this 
Get this app
It locks you out of distracting apps on your phone for set amounts of time to help you focus and what you want to do
Dank Green
Is this right or there are some error on it?
i will have a test of combinatorics tomorrow and idk nothing about it
i just cant understand it 😭 😭 😭
looks right to me
Thnxx
Btw, is there a easy way to solve all exercices about combinatorics ?
no
there is an easier way but not an easy way
you just have to note words
some of it is already there
"without repetition" choose n then choose n - 1, n - 2 and so on
"with repetition" choose n^k
"arrangement" k-permutations
"select distinct objects" binomial coefficients or combination without repetition
"select the same objects" multinomial coefficients or combination with repetition
the first two are multiplication principle btw
good luck 💜
How???
How bro 😭😭😭
The last one
Só choose you one of the easiers
I just need to understand that for tomorrow 😭😞
You are talking about permutation without repetition right
So yeah its easy
The ONLY i understand
Nope, idk what the k means, and how to use
Yeahh ig
Yeah yeah, i ve solved exercices like that in shcool
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Ofc
Yes
Wait
5 (letters) * 4( combinations)
Is that ?
Ok ok
Ahhh
That makes sense
Thanks bro
Can u explain the last
Pls
Okk, but tomorrow i Will not need since tomorrow is my test
Thnxx bro
What are some learning tip thats niche or should be use to maximize the gaining of intuition when it comes to studying math in your own time ?
We're learning abt derivative of trigs rn. I want to attemp to provem some of them so I can understand them more.
From your experience right, are there merits to attempting proof by yourself ? How long should one try before looking at the textbook?
Im kinda walking around rn, ignore the horrific grammars lol
Yep
Like derivative sinx = cosx
You're majoring in pure math? How is that going for you man
Man thats great, sorry for my intrusiveness but what are you looking to do once you graduate ?
Lolol
So the main route? Thats smart, security for your future and flexbility to switch industry
Yeah I get you, im not at any lvl near you, but phd does seems pretty scary and time consuming if you dont have the goal of researching
But hey, thanks for the insight. Means a lot from someone with more experience than I do
Cheers!
What is a cool video to perform better at math and the university?
cat videos
@scenic shuttle https://youtu.be/FJiiz55frmk
Hello! This is my attempt at a full UTAU song!
A little story about this song is that it was just supposed to be some throwaway song i used to practice UTAU.
To my surprise, people liked it enough to the point of wanting an extended version.
Here's an attempt, I hope this will suffice!
Lyrics:
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Is jspark good?
teto
We have run out of index variables and have resorted to using sans serif variables
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what text is this in
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Hey people, can yall give me any study tips, its exam season and there are a lot of subjects to organise, help?
just wanted general advice on how long I need for something
Jordan-von Neumann Theorem
dont phd programs in europe usually require a masters beforehand as well
then it makes more sense to consider not getting a phd
in america its generally straight from bachelors to phd in math, and in phd they'll cover tuition and give you a stipend and you'll get your masters along the way
its also less feasible to get into a phd in math in america if you take too long after your bachelors since they generally expect recent graduates but there are probably exceptions
Because the first two years of a PhD is basically like a master's program
yea they give you your masters after that right
I think so
this is the same thing im thinking
still 4 year undergrad but im thinking of finishing my phd by 25 yea
This is true
i would do 3 year but its like a lot harder to get into decent programs the less time you have right
but who says I can't finish my PhD before Abbott
since my senior year is really when i plan to do most of my grad courses
When did you change ETHZ to Cambridge?
😢
funding for intl PhD students in UK is kinda wack
Didn't Einstein graduate from ETHZ?
Okay 🫡
I was thinking Max Planck Institute in Germany but okay that works too
Or Perimeter Institute in Waterloo
Is it normal for assignment problems to take forever to solve or am I doing something wrong
This is at uni, and this is a higher division ug course[ basically the highest undergrad] level
it depends on the problem
but usually you should aim to solve problems relatively quickly, especially if it's standard textbook exercises or assignment problems
else you'll end up spending several days on simple intro analysis exercises like me 
The hard part of the problem is coming up with a counter example in an infinite dim VS 
which makes sense tbf
average rudin user
abbott?
Yup
Oh, I think I got it
For problems like that try for a bit, if you can't do it within a reasonable amount of time, try asking for a hint
lemme write it down to verify
try asking for a hint
Not allowed for graded components

idk what that means, I just learn math I don't pay attention to my grades 
That's probably why they're so bad
learn math as a recreational activity
Learn math to become the best mathematician ever
unrelated, is using $\Psi$ considerd bad practice in LA
wai
like does it have a specific meaning ot smthng
what makes you think it is?
wdym
like i don't know of any LA uses of Ψ but also this question is coming from somewhere right
I'm using it as notation in an asnwer
is all
I have never seen (\Psi) used in LA
Local FIS Shill (She/Her)
if u already studied things before it wouldn't have any problems 
thats how I usually go through it
I have only seen it used once in an exercise of FIS
But that's fine
As long as it does not have a canonical meaning in your current field of study, you can feel free to use it.
Step by step
E.g. You want to eventually get to Diff Geo? Think about what you can start with to get there.
But also make your journey fun
How i study math like a university student of the soviet union?
I've seen small phi used for functionals, where did you see big phi in FIS? /genq
I'm planing for next sem rn
and kind of conflicted
on one hand want to do a bunch of courses , to learn as much as I can
on the other hand, burn out
@swift tartan the website u gave me couple days ago, do u know if u could draw something like this?
im looking for ground but cant find it >:(
maybe I have to draw it that way 
Honestly no clue
I dont really make circuit diagrams
there are probably dedicated programs for circuitikz which are more suitable for circuit diagrams
no worries I found a software that does this thing i want
im changing my mind, this software is so ass
I feel like you will just have to learn tikz by the end of the day
Nothing will be better than that
Not sure but there’s an app on phone and there’s a website for it called “every circuit “ there was another one but forgot
Yeah the other one is “proto”
I got an ipad so ill pass 
sometimes when I work on drawing a diagram with tikz, it takes a lot of time and when it doesn’t work out, it feels like such a waste and makes it harder to catch up on my other classes for studying
can u link it?
Proto is on android sadly, but it also has a website
Lemme check
Build, simulate and learn about electronic circuits with PROTO application!
Interactive real-time circuit simulation and animated visualization inspired students and engineers to design 2.9 million circuits online and in mobile app.
holy shit
They have dark mode
I love dark mode anyway
Well i didn’t think they were this great ,used to fiddle around with them
yeah its looking fire
I make my notes with dark mode in my ipad so I could just screenshot them and place it into notes
thanks again :D
No problem 
Nice 👍

TikZ drawing doesn't work out? That just means you haven't wasted spent enough time on it.

Almost forgot my sotrues there.
On a more serious note, have you used CircuiTikZ GUI editors? E.g. this is the first one I found online https://circuit2tikz.tf.fau.de/designer/
A GUI for easily drawing circuits with CircuiTikZ components. Draw your circuit, export it to circuitikz or SVG code and include it in your project.
You can compile TikZ on an iPad btw... just not locally. I don't want to bring my laptop to a certain place, so I bring my iPad to write LaTeX in, using Github Codespaces.
Wait how do you type on the iPad
Carry a keyboard?
Do you have a rec?
Or just the standard keyboard?
@eager halo
it takes about 6 hours to do draw something
im slow at tikz
Not a good feeling keyboard but it works and the case is pretty darn rugged.
i dont have a physically keyboard
You'll slowly improve with practice at TikZ programming.
Anyways, as aforementioned, there are GUI editors for CircuiTikZ which makes this point mute.
... Well you can buy one.
only if i can find a part time job, sure…
You can get a cheap one?
still 
yeah im suffering lol
i plan getting this keyboard from temu
@eager halo
You can compile locally
Using a terminal emulator
Like a-shell
Or others
No even that you need to connect to a remote tunnel.
I tried it before; didn't find a way to make it work.
At least for VSCode
Anyways you wouldn't be beating the performance of a GitHub Codespace which itself already outperforms my laptop's I7 at TeX compilations.
I don't know what you did but you shouldn't have to
I've used it before
It comes prepackaged with TeXLive and vim
im not sure what do u mean by this
but i know this https://github.com/sanjib-sen/WebLaTex
vim+typst+git🗿
I see
how do u guys study for olympiad math
you might have better luck asking in #competition-math and https://discord.gg/3sbwZdh
I use my own custom .devcontainer.
it's been a while since I taught olympiad-ish stuff but really it's just getting a group to solve problems guided by a tutor lol
that's like the ideal setup imo
thank you
otherwise u can find worksheets or like, the Art of Problem Solving books these are good
bet
oooo that makes sense
I will start university rn, what study routine should i follow?
depends on what major 
Biology
hmm fair
I would probably say study stuff before u attend the lectures and use online sources if u cant understand something(e.g yt or similar). also dont forget to have good sleep schedule and take breaks as needed. make friends and study with them too
I feel like biology also requires a lot of memorizing so u could plan doing this too

Don't be a lazy blob who procrastinates until the day before
Do everything right away like he said
Consider learning ahead if you can and have time
This is me
But I no longer want it to be me 
One of these years I'll succeed
Nah
I'll succeed this year
this semester!
"When mq knows I'm succeeding but he just can't prove it"
But why do you do that?
I used to be that person but don't you want to do well?
Sorry I can't tell apart the mannerisms of millions of random strangers online
All bundled with different personalities
Neam analysis arc insert sotrue

Does anyone have tips on how to remember past math subjects in order to make connections with new ones and deepen your understanding on how things work? Instead of memorising formulas taken for granted
Since I can't depend on school to help me with that
I'm trying to wrap my head around how I'll have time to review past subjects but surely there's a way... right?
has anyone prepared for oxbridge maths interviews and if so how did you prepare
i think i’m very good at a level stuff but if it’s BMO then i don’t exactly know how to go about a problem and it makes me feel uncomfortable
You can make revision cards with he main results, but tbh as you progress through your education, reviewing your old lecture notes should take you less and less time, unless your lecture notes are very verbose.
There's no secret though, except reviewing things every once in a while (you can do that every break, or every big breaks, just before starting school again)
In maths, new topics will often call on what you've learned prior to the course, so you'll also naturally retain some of the main properties/theorems, but it's still good to review them to have them in mind when you encounter them
Yea
I see, the thing is that I used to study maths very shallowly, memorising for tests only and not caring to understand the logic and the origin of the formulas (they weren't taught as well). So now I feel like I'm missing the essential connections and intuition and that there's a lot to catch up on... I'm willing to work to catch up on really understanding the material but I'm hesitating on which way to tackle it from (since changing methods later on in a major way will be exhausting). Do I start working on making flashcards on theorems/properties and note my personal notes on the side? Or do I take a notes first approach using Obsidian and later figure out a way to review those notes in a spaced manner (I believe there's a plugin but it's something to verify)
Hence why I'm asking here since I'm sure there are lads who have achieved what I'm trying to achieve and I'd prefer to learn from their experience rather than experimenting (which i'll still do obviously but much less if someone were to guide me)
Just take the time to review the material from the point you think you need to and (re)do exercises, there's not really any shortcut. Do it during school breaks to have more time for it, or do it slowly through multiple weeks
in my experience I didn't really focus on taking notes
I picked up a math book on the topic I want to learn
and supplement it with online resources whatever I could find
and focus on the exercises a lot
And most of the time, a book has a lot of subtopics which build up on previous topics , that teaches you how to connect things from one topic to another
Memorising for tests only and not caring to understand the logic and the origin of the formulas (they weren't taught as well).
I would say you should try to prove and find justification for every theorem you encounter
it will help you "internalize" what math is really about and eventually you won't have to memorize, it will come to you naturally
For example, you may study the unit circle and how it derives the trigonometric formulas, that way you also don't need to memorize how do the values for sin 30 cos 30 come from, it will just click in your head automatically once you've internalized the concept
TLDR: To internalize the math concepts, try to find justification for every formula you're using, and solve a lot more difficult questions (without seeing solution, just struggle through it, until you can't find any way to solve it at all) . Read more if you aren't clear about a concept, look for more resources. And when reading math, make sure you write down and try to follow whats it about.
what is best study method for understanding flip flops in logic gates?
specifically stuff like this
Thanks man, appreciate it 
im not sure if this channel is only related to math but I would be appreciated if anyone knows any study methods 
For maths or in general?
in general
just asking that bc friends also doesnt get it either 💔
To me the best one is the feynman technique, it's essentially explaining what you've learnt to someone else (could be imaginary), it should be so simply articulated a 5yo, or a person with no experience in the field could understand
there are a lot more really, such as spaced repetition/active recall, blurting, mind maps, ... some work better than others in certain subjects and some may not work at all for you, the key is to mix and mash and see what works for you ultimately
alright ill try this, thanks for the suggestion 
Anki
No 1 study tip spend less time decorating ur discord profile and more time studying
Anki is great
Fr
How u get latex to work on it?
Mathjax
U hv mac or windows ?
Windows
Hmmm
I think mathjax should work on both
Cn i dm you about it ?
Hmm i have some anki stuff but they dont render
I rn just have gpt generate latex and take sc and paste it
That’s not really how mathjax works
I need the right profile to study, you wouldn't understand the meta
it's so addictive tho 
I have paused my music for 3 hours just to get some shit done and i finally finished it o7
i don't understand meta because i prefer telegram
just trying to look up some video for this
wait u don't even study math 
ig you just preferred vibe here than in bme or engineering server
yeah I dont
the math i have in my semester rn is most likely baby math 
what is hardest math u studied ?
which server do you recommend me asking for type questions like this? physics server is so ignorant 
linear algebra but that was in cs
with or without proofs ?
idk maybe engineering server
a little bit of proofs but not too much
i'm not in it but you should find it in disboard
😭 ok
look in discover it's right there
engineering students, right?
yes
server is barely active 😭
the one with 29k people ?
damn
when i was on it it was very active
idk what your question is related to but try joining the specific engineering one, if it's electrical, the electrical engineering one has 20k
ya
ok
not too much tbh and I think they will probably respond once I finish my first year 
im gonna be patient and give it two days maybe
thanks for the suggestion tho and hopefully ill find someone who knows about this stuff 
What knowledge must I have before studying spectral graph theory?
How do your cards look like over there? I’m trying to start using Anki for my studies but have no idea how I should structure my cards to avoid the trap of rote memorisation. Any tips?
They’re pretty standard cards
I just significantly widened what was worth putting on a card
So you make more conceptual cards?
So rather than the standard “What’s the quadratic equation” cards you make more “Why are a and c multiplied by 4” type of cards
Yeah, I make a really wide variety
I see, and you review them like any other normal card (using the again-easy buttons at the bottom)?
Mhm
Cool, thanks a lot 
Peak
How am i supposed to learn 500 proofs without memorising 500 proofs is there an easy way to know them all without literally just remembering them individually
Anki
Dont memorize proofs, memorize ideas
Is making a sort of checklist system good for organizing work?
like gamifying our tasks
think about the problem
Yeah idk what that means tho
Yeah idk id rather memorise than think it hurts my head to think too much
WHen you think of a difficult proof, that's quite long, it's usually not the entirety of proof that is difficult, it is a few specific ideas that are difficult to think about
nah bro you definitely need to do some thinking
A lot of the proofs are like 3-4 lines theres only like 5% that are super long
just have fun with the definitions
Idk i dont like thinking
if you don't want to think about proofs, it's a bit harsh but i wouldn't recommend a math degree
you also don't always have to prove something from scratch
Yeah a lot are using definitions so maybe learning all the definitions would be a good idea
the entire like allure of a math degree as opposed to physics or engineering is that you can do proofs
sometimes there is a previously proved theorem
or lemma you can use
if you want you can also do corollaries that aren't exercises
just to think about what you proved
this only for basic proofs tbh
it works
Too late now vro 🥀
it works if you read what you're trying to prove
i could work with this for basic algebra proofs but now that i'm doing some more difficult stuff, the proofs are just very eccentric ideas
A lot of the proofs are just definitions tbh, only a couple are longer or ones you have to think about
there's also this if you're lucky enough
just think
it's very mentally taxing because it has to be
🥀
then you are probably studying easier material, and then yes i recommend working with defintions
yeah i just skip to the proof
Yeah we are doing easier stuff atm i think. But i want to get all of this solid so that i dont struggle with the stuff that builds on it
i don't have the attention span to read past 2 sentences
then i end up in a dead end
then i read it again
I find sometimes the sentence helps explain it
yes
if u want to get solid at it, you have to think the more you think about proving stuff the easier it becomes
Isn't the best way to do that by doing a bunch of proofs tho? So like i should just practice them all anyways
the best way is to write down definitions and try and work with them to figure out what's going on
some people skip to whatever without doing discrete math
i'm not taking discrete math 
which is what you need to have a steady path to either early algebra or analysis
tortured in rudin
Whats discrete maths
it's math to do with countable stuff
Ohh ok
but it's also broad enough to be an introductory proof writing class
best intro to proof writing is abstract algebra

it has sets, relations, functions, cardinalities, etc
which are very common in pure math
The best intro to proof writing is choosing a different major
No
maybe this guy is right
This is just not true
Discrete math is not well defined but it isn't reserved for countable things
idk what mine was about
Like you said, cardinalities, and most of those ain't countable
I think i have one course thats some of that stuff but we haven't done cardinality yet, but did like sup and inf and some other stuff that seems to be a prerequisite to real analysis (idk if it actually is). Other course is linear algebra and much smaller in content.
we had counting and binomial coefficients
and graphs
in switzerland first sem they throw you into abstract algebra
Graphs
pretty sure sup() and inf() are what you learn in real analysis anyways
it's like the early topics
that's after the triangle inequality
No like theres a separate module called real analysis
sup((size of my brain)) = 0
t his is me doing any exercise
Yeah we did that in both lin alg and the pure module
you know the number 1 tip for you
spend less time decorating your profile and more time studying
number 1 tip
I cba ngl
switch to cs
I cant program
never shower again for the rest of your life
bro wants him without a job
I was gonna do cs course after this anyways
i already don't
no need to be cs major
zawg
showering is for engineers
half showers
they shower with wd40
Mfw the first course in Switzerland isn't chocolate making or banking
u learn that in middle school
Ah makes sense
It feels like Switzerland isn't real sometimes ngl
It isn't tho
we are real 
Yeah like how can you be france/Italy/germany like pick a side smh
what if switzerland was in space and the only reason people can go there is because there are portals around it
if switzerland wasn't real how else would rich people get away with hiding their money
Switzerland and belgium need to be absorbed by their neighbouring countries atp
They don't anymore
Swiss banking isn't the same as it used to be
🥀
belgium can be absorbed idc about them
fr jobs are gone now that i'm graduating 🥀
labubu
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I have 67 dubai Chocolate matcha labubus who wants one
Dubai chocolate (67%) matcha labubu >> any swiss chocolate
anything but locking in
Need general advice, how do i deal with not ebing able to do assignment questions
It's due in about 5 weeks, but more assignments will come soon( which will also be due by november end)
Umm can I get some help in trigonometry
Khan Academy gets recommended a lot too
mainly for the quizzes
Thank you
I'l check it out
I might have talked to you about this before but how available are your profs for office hours?
I used to just start my hw early, do as much as I could and then live at office hours to bug my profs for hints on anything I was stuck on or curious about.
if anyone is free, i need some advice
Yall have office hours?
Yep
Okay
Chatgpt is my office hours
im competing in the physics Olympiads and im also in the UKMT , i dont know whta to do like how to get ready for them
U gotta rizz ur way into more office hours.
First tip? Commit to one, if u do both u wont get far in either
They just dont exist in my uni
If u don't it's a skill issue on ur end bud 
Realistically if I did not have office hours I'd probably just come to places like this and bug people with the same shit I do at office hours.
Ha thats what i do when chatgpt is down fr
Or just ask my friends
I wouldn't use chatgpt for most of my stuff.
If none of the above there's always the library I guess.
It kinda sucks now for harder proofs tbh
But i can use it in simpler courses
And to recall definitions and statements quickly in upper level courses
So cool
Pls do good in the ukmt
I did bad twice and kinda regret it
BC ik if I tried I could've done better
Well ig u do physics Olympiad
But this is a maths server
So maths >]]]]
It does suck actually bc one of my classmates said, "I can't understand anything" so I checked what she was studying with and it turns out she was using gpt. I was like, "oh, that explains why you can't understand anything" 
you have to use it well and it depends on what you use it for
When I used it for multivariable. it had like a 99% chance of getting the answer correct
and would explain and have multiple methods
when i used it in my second course in algebra it's not effective in solving problems, so i primarily use it to recall definitions and statements
'don't judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree'
dc stuff
dc ?
it stands for direct current
as an engineer, I can tell that gpt is so bullshit at this
ive found it fairly useful lol
finally someone to back me up
after being attacked for like a year on this server for using chatgpt
the only problem is sometimes, i will write a proof and maybe chuck it in
and it'll say im wrong
and im like "no, im right" and i refute its point
and it is like "yeah youre right"
and then later i realize i was in fact, wrong
it is too much of a yes man

i found claude better in that respect
the thing is sometimes it is wrong so like
yeah
i find it explains stuff from textbooks in a slightly easier way to read often
like, a better wikipedia kinda
it's good for dissecting unfamilar notation
u probably got replaced by ai 
especially when i change reading source and discover different notation, using it quickly to beocme familiar helps a lot
ive also given it a fair amount of exercises and it does pretty well
probably just its fat training data but
v much depends on what kind for me
other ppl say its ass tho so idk
recently ive only given it intro analysis and measure theory problems
i hear ppl say it fails basic hs algebra though which is cooked
this was true for gpt 3
i just don't think it's true for the latest models if you put thinking mode
unless you use a very eccentric visual question
i also tried giving it a calculus assignment i did last year after i finished mine, and yeah it was not cooking
the assignment was to essentially make a graph of a roller coaster using 4 functions, ie a piecewise function, connecting the 4 functions in such a way that the graph is continuous and the derivative is continuous, and the slope of the graph doesnt go over or under 80 degrees from the horizontal
and less than 150 tall or smth
but it failed to even connect the endpoints of the diff functions often, let alone making it C1
btw it doesn't look bad 🙂
something like this takes about 15 minutes to find the unknown variables
this looks like electrical eng
tbh if i had to study engineering
i'd be an electrical engineer
gr11 physics flashback
if it's not there it didn't happen
in us? good 4 u
yall from the same country
oh fair
although we just did voltage current resistance
I never took physics after gr10
future uoft student(s)
waterloo ?
theres a decent chance i finish this year with a top 6 of a 99, 4 100s, and an 87 in english or smth
holy grade inflation
99 is crazy flex
yes well, everywhere has grade inflation
no grade inflation in switz
so my english is probably gonna kill my uoft app
some random kid is gonna have the same stats as me
but like a 95 in english
do the trick
and i wont get in 💀
i meant here
my cousin studies math at uoft
from what i remember he didn't have better grades
what year is he
senior
he went to uoft as a backup from waterloo
never understood how ppl actually get high grades in hs bc for me it was so different
yeah i was thinking waterloo was my first choice but eh
i recently looked at course stuff for uoft and i think its my first choice now
there must be a secret
its just ez here
thats why so inflated
bro she's canadian
really? then u should have applied to waterloo
i have
well i need to submit my AIF still
been procrastinating doing this for 1 month
well like
create a story that's specific to you so it's seems you didn't make it up, e.g if you were captain of football team talk about football and then make up a story
most of my friends who dont do as well in math classes, for eg, just dont get the material at a deeper lvl
they kinda just sit in class, listen to teacher and copy down everything the teacher writes with their brains turned off, do like 4 practice problems and then get cooked on a test
i think if ppl spent like 30-60 mins every other sch day outside of class on the internet trying to understand concepts on a better lvl theyd be chilling
bro's just shitting on his friends 
I couldn't practice enough for math bc of my english teacher keeps saying this is not ur work
i do my best to explain things to them if they ask
a lot of them just like
dont try to understand
they just want some formula for everything
i think vectors were so stupid in calc
some mechanical process they can do every single time (which is kinda hs math tbf)
oh yeah this was shit
completely useless
real
it doesnt even go anywhere
if i can't plug and chug, i ain't doing it 🗣️
but most ppl just dont care about or focus on the why, and often teachers dont explain it properly too
I mean I wouldn't care about that
@long hedge I figured out how to understand flip flops in the end 
lets go
im ready to build the stuff on breadboard
typically i recommend just putting them on
no
I would kms if i went there
I wouldn't personally say it on public server
there are some ppl from diff servers stalking me
what the heyl
i had a 2.2 gpa in high school
but i have a 3.6 gpa in college now
probs gonna fail this semester though
you also did pure math in hs, right
i had a 2.4 gpa in highschool
i have a 2.3 gpa in college
(it's a joke)
I'm not even joking
before I quit cs I had 4gpa but im somewhat getting cooked this sem
cs is sooo fun
but no jobs fr
real
mfs who graduated with a cs degree in 2020 got all the luck in the universe
me in the future visualized 4K
i like how they have the most calm music in the background 
it's ai generated LMFAO
fair
yea, the username is because lang’s algebra got me through the mental hospital sophomore year of high school after i hurt myself
very open about it
munkres, lang, and les miserables in the autism ward of a mental hospital
i am so glad they let me have the hardcover lang
there were chalkboards above the beds
and no electronics