#study-discussion

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near peak
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just dmd

ruby crystal
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newbie here-

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can some tell me how to complete like 10 books within a month and a half- got my finals cmin and im in complete panic mode

green terrace
storm jasper
slow stag
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i just want a roadmap for calcus 2 im so bad at math in every angle i want a deep roadmap for math from pre algerba to algbra and geometry to pre calc to calc 1 to calc 2 pls help i dont understand anything atp im not moving anywhere my mentallity is crushed.

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im a 12th grader i pass exams but dont understand anything

bold coral
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This's my question, you want to study Math as a major or just want to pass exam?

slow stag
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i want to understand

slow stag
bold coral
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If you already have a strong background in pre-calc nothing stop you from getting good in calc

slow stag
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pls ms.fionna help

bold coral
slow stag
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the basic isnt understable

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understandable

bold coral
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If you unsure, you can just revise the basic then move on

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The thing is, people like me myself, I spent a large amount of time studying difficult vector-2D geo, limit and function in depth

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It like huge amount of time, if you just now start to do so you won't be able to catch up with calc in class

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So the best is just learn the basic, then when you come a cross a calc problem that require limit/function in depth knowledge

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You learn from that problem, that's the only way

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Ehhhh, tbf it's not worth it to learn everying you learnt in depth cuz most of them end up not be used anyway

slow stag
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but i dont understand anything till its in depth i think like why is calcus calcus? yk what is it where can i apply it to my life yk.

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so you think only for calcus 1 and 2 to learn whats essential?

bold coral
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It's every where in the internet

sour mirage
fleet hill
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10 books is definitely not possible, I would make a list of concepts on the test you're most confused about and go through it one by one

sour mirage
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thats a bit off

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maybe it makes bookkeeping easier?

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thats pretty horrible lol

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100% of the stress on one day

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cant even chill thinking like "oh, ill bring it back next midterm so its alr"

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i see

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for me its class dependent

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my PDEs class has 2 midterms and one final i think

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and same for my lin alg class

sour mirage
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your grade is best mostly on your final?

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you have an oral exam?

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tf

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thats like

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miserable

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they're just turning you into a walking textbook 😭

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like do they ask you how to prove every theorem or they ask you how you would prove something using those theorems

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thats interesting though
i feel like for math classes in my university normally they care more about how well you're able to apply techniques you learned throughout the course, so like maybe the proof for something looks similar to a proof for another theorem but they wouldnt ask you to reprove something you already learnt

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but thats probably what your written exam is for

swift tartan
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Hartshorne is literally like a page or two a day

sour mirage
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if the books are like

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super duper undergrad - y

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then reading a bunch of it isnt cope since they fluff it up a little

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but books where every single page is 5 corollaries and two theorems with every other theorem left as an exercise

storm jasper
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Hairy balls thereom?

edgy sierra
swift tartan
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Felt, it really does matter per book though

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Like rudin would be like that maybe around 1-3 pages a day

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which is almost a section tbf in that text

storm jasper
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I read 10 pages, is abott a lot more trivialeeveethink

outer rapids
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yeah i jest, that sounds about right when i was still reading it lmao

storm jasper
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Or could I

outer rapids
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depends on book

storm jasper
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Well shit

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What about hartshorne

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Oh shit that’s alg geo

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Sorry, I meant Hatcher, how do I lock in so I can become better at alg top fr Dr

outer rapids
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hartshorne took me a page a day, with guided study for a class it should speed things up quite a bit

storm jasper
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I don’t study at all anymore lmao

outer rapids
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but if you're doing it solo it would surprise me if you was able to do anything past 4 pages per day

storm jasper
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I read like a page a day but imma speed it up cause I do need to finish analysis in a month

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Wait point set or

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Oh I thought alg top

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Time to lock in devilish

outer rapids
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not going

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not applying this year (thank god)

storm jasper
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I forgot hchan is a sweat

outer rapids
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this year applications are cooked

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no I need one more year

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yes i am

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i need one more year

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oh yeah you do

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so what that means is i will do it roughly at the start of my next school year

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no, I am taking an extra year

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for undergrad

storm jasper
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I will apply for PhD when I’m 19 : p

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If I lock in

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Have a yr

outer rapids
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im gonna be honest my guy its straight up not happening

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no, I dont

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my university is good but not elite

outer rapids
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good enough for the math dept here to have a very rich offering of classes i can take and that's good enough for me

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I could, ill consider it when it comes to that

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i didn't choose to do an extra year because of trump i need it to finish my other major

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only slightly better, EE

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Hell no

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My CV at this point is heavily geared towards a math phd anyways

storm jasper
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I’ll get it through a unconventional route

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Wait what

swift tartan
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do it

outer rapids
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I can do that one better, one physical textbook of your choosing

stoic maple
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do yall have study tips? im in 7th grade and i have my finals soon

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rip

swift tartan
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Did someone get banned?

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All their messages are deleted lol

olive geode
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weird, clearly someone very active here thonk I don't think getting banned necessarily deletes all your messages, so they might have deleted them themselves

reef ocean
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when banning someone we can pick whether to delete a range of recent msgs

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i'm aware that is a thing but self-botting is against discord ToS catthink

rain patio
rain patio
storm jasper
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I just need to study later undergrad/early grad student material and then just continuously study the early grad student material until I get a breakthrough

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Other students (mainly PhD students) will disagree and it is quite unconventional but I’m bored

rain patio
silent stratus
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So my name day's coming up and I wanna gift my classmates a full summary of what we have done so far in set theory. My opinion as to what I should emphasize on, is just writing every equality or definition we have written, without any proofs. Should I include the proofs under each respective equality, or should I skip them? maybe I could make a separate file in which I include every proof that's necessary. What y'all think chat?

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btw im writing in latex so factor in the time it takes to write there rather than on paper

frosty mica
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Skip proofs in the main summary. List all equalities and definitions clearly. Create a separate file for proofs to keep the main document concise and focused.

silent stratus
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yeah thats my main idea. its a lotta work tho and ill get bored

spark topaz
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are the GRE practice tests known to have occasional errors

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on a practice test I was just working on, they defined a group homorphism and said its kernel was {1,11}

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no 0

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wait maybe im dumb

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is 0 even in a group

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im thinking of an additive group since it was over Z mod 30 but maybe they meant a multiplicative group

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i took abstract algebra awhile ago i don rembr

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hence i ask here

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this is the specific problem

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with my notes and attempted solution scribbled on it, as you can see

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(I can't find the erase feature)

obsidian wigeon
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U30 is a multiplicative group, it doesn't contain 0

spark topaz
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oh i see why 1 is 0 now

obsidian wigeon
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yea 1 is your identity, and 11 is its own inverse

spark topaz
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so I'd guess that using an additive relationship was not the right way to find a match for 7

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ya everything relatively prime to 30

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right

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follows from the euclidean algorithm

obsidian wigeon
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poor 29 got neglected, not that it matters here 😆

spark topaz
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ax+by=1

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so then do i take 7 and multiply by 11 since it's an identity

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then mod 13

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30

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yay

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ya I'll use f
f(7)=f(7)f(11)
=f(77)=f(17)=7

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minus 60

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thank you

spark topaz
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If this channel isn't active, is it an okay place to ask GRE math subject test-type questions

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I don't use this server too much

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so idk the unspoken rules

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okay

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ty

olive geode
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How do you guys organize your paper when writing? Like, do you have one book where you neatly write your proofs, and one for scribbling and calculations? I often find when proving stuff that I need to remind myself of some basic lemma, so I grab some scrap paper, but then if I get stuck proving that lemma, I need some extra scrap paper for my scrap paper, and so on and so on, so my desk is a mess of paper smokingbread

olive geode
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I don't want to do either of those 😠

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are tablets really that good? how does it compare to writing on paper? and how does it organize your notes?

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no don't edit it, I liked it when it was big blobcry

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I've a lot of talk about a tablet called remarkable, how does it compare to apple and samsung?

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the e-ink display looks kinda nice, but I'm guessing it's less responsive?

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wait, remarkable is norwegian? uponthewitnessing

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so you're saying that if I go for samsung, I wouldn't need to go for galaxy S10 for example? What would you recommend?

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it seems some are saying that apple has a better writing pen than samsung, so maybe apple is a better choice

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I'm in Norway, you know how far away I am 😭

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Yes, I'm very lucky to have both an Apple store and a non-Apple store in walking distance pandawow

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oh right, I forgot they have apple things in non-apple stores 😅

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svalbard is the height of civilisation

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jesus, now I know why you recommend ipad a16 instead of something more expensive: ipad pro costs 3700 USD 💀 who would spend that much on a tablet?

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yeah, the ipad a16 looks decently priced, I can get it for 500 USD here

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what's the advantage with ipad air?

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also, do you have an opinion on size? 11 inches is that enough?

olive geode
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it seems ipad a16 only comes in 11 inches, but ipad air comes in 11 and 13

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yeah, thanks for the recommendations catlove I'll try it tomorrow

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yeah, the ipad wouldn't necessarily be much cheaper than a remarkable

olive geode
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what's the deal with people deleting all their messages in this channel? sadcat

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you did? and then you had to delete all your messages, not just one? 🤔 I don't think the discord TOS are that strict, if that's what you're worried about

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if you mean asking mq if he smuggles ipads from the US, that's definitely not something you can get banned for KEK

scenic shuttle
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if u want to get an iPad I'd suggest getting android rather than apple

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apple sucks ass (I have it)

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yeah I agree

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since I use apple I'd say all the apps they have requires u to pay

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especially goodnotes bc I heard it's good

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I'm using note+ and it's my favorite 🙂

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how?

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it has limited stuff 💔

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oooo

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how is that possible

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ah

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guess I'm late then lol

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its time to install apps using slideloadly CB_smug

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hacking apps

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yep

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sure catThonk

swift tartan
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I got goodnotes 5 with lifetime and once they introduced goodnotes 6 and required users to pay a subscription to use the new update i basically went like wtf

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So I havent really used it since

scenic shuttle
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i use note+ and its so much better lol

swift tartan
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I stick to paper and pen + latex opencry

scenic shuttle
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i use everything except for AI pen and safari

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overall its a good app 🙂

scenic shuttle
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and that requires tikz

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i suck at it

swift tartan
scenic shuttle
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such as?

swift tartan
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There is an online tikzcd website, I also use mathcha

scenic shuttle
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oh ill look into this, thanks

swift tartan
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mathcha is free to use, but they only let you use the website. Its cheap for a year tho, iirc its like $5

scenic shuttle
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ic

swift tartan
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That lets you download and use it on your comp

scenic shuttle
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wait i think i remember opening that once and never used it that much

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how does tikz actually work in there?

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does it generate latex code for u once u make the diagram?

swift tartan
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You can type out equations in latex, uses basic ams tho so not really anything custom. The creation of like diagrams with shapes or objects does take a little bit of a learning curve to get used to

swift tartan
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It does give those warnings, but I have yet for it to fail

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It also does let you print the images for importing in figures

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Id recommend trying out the website just to see if its worth, its free so why not

scenic shuttle
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ok ill try look into this

scenic shuttle
swift tartan
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When you create a diagram, you can go to the top to export it as tikz

scenic shuttle
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okay that makes sense, thanks a lot man 🙂

swift tartan
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But I still recommend learning TiKz, I have seen some crazy stuff that def got me into it

swift tartan
scenic shuttle
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im only gonna use it for drawing stuff bc im too lazy

swift tartan
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felt

swift tartan
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@tight siren they have crazier ones (he made the ones above too)

scenic shuttle
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dayum thats so nice

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I cant understand chinese tho

swift tartan
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Me neither bleakkekw

scenic shuttle
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I managed to do my thing that u send me :D

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I love it

swift tartan
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Nice!

wispy zephyr
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you should look into circuitikz

scenic shuttle
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I tried

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I find it annoying tbf

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or maybe i just have skill issue

wispy zephyr
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%% in preamble
% \usepackage{circuitikz}
\usetikzlibrary{positioning}
\ctikzset{logic ports = ieee}
%% In main document
\begin{circuitikz}
\node (A) {A};
\node[below = of A] (B) {B};
\node[below = of B] (C) {C};
\draw (A) to ++(1,0) nodeand port, anchor=in 1{};
\draw (C) to (C -| and1.in 1) nodeand port, anchor=in 2{};
\draw (B) to (B -| and1.in 1) to (and1.in 2) to (and2.in 1);
\draw (and1.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodenot port, anchor=in{} (not1.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodeor port, anchor=in 1{} (or.out) to ++(1,0) node[right]{Y};
\draw (and2.out) to ++(1.5,0) nodenot port, anchor=in{} (not2.out) to ++(1,0) |- (or.in 2);
\end{circuitikz}

mossy shadowBOT
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κλαουντ ☁ (cloud)

scenic shuttle
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noice

limber ravine
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who’s kind enough to tutor me

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Hahaha

reef ocean
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that's fine to ask but keep in mind we don't encourage financial transactions in the server #changelog message

rocky terrace
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We only encourage financial transactions if you transfer money directly into my bank account for no reason whatsoever and no questions asked 🗿 and no services offered

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I can turn your $500 into my $500 catking

storm tide
swift tartan
green terrace
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(with international exchange fees, of-course)

rocky terrace
undone carbon
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I have a question, I'm dyslexic and I struggle too much with numbers, since this server is big I'm sure you've had other people, what study method do you recommend?

echo dragon
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I have a quant strats Superday coming up. Need genuine help in all the math concepts I should go thru. Preferably in order of importance

runic crest
scenic shuttle
gritty kestrel
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Genuinely, how do you all study math? I’ve taken all the higher-level math classes and passed with 70s or higher without really studying. I’ll admit I struggled here and there, but scraping by with a 70 without studying felt pretty good. Now I’m in grade 11, which is a really important year for me. I need at least a high 80, but I just got my progress report back and I’m sitting at a 57. I only have six weeks until midterms, so that mark needs to change drastically. I studied all weekend for my first test and still failed, so I honestly don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve got a quiz tomorrow, and I’m kind of panicking. Sorry for the story dump I just really need some effective math study

fleet hill
gritty kestrel
fleet hill
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And what do you do during class?

gritty kestrel
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Take notes

fleet hill
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What do you feel like you struggle with the most? Is it like time management, or do you feel like you're putting a lot of time in and still not effectively absorbing the concepts?

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Are you able to do the practice problems on the quiz concepts

gritty kestrel
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I feel like I put a lot of time in and still just blank on a test or quiz. No my teacher doesn’t release specific practice problems specifically for the quiz or test

fleet hill
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You mentioned doing problems over and over, where do you get those problems from? And do you do the same problems multiple times?

gritty kestrel
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I usually try to form them from lesson example questions, and switch up the general concept of the question and mix numbers around and I’ll do this multiple times

fleet hill
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Ah okay, do you also have a textbook that you can draw problems from? KhanAcademy also has a lot of practice exercises you can try

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Forming practice problems for yourself is generally a great idea, do you find that you can do them or is it a struggle?

gritty kestrel
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I can do them but I get to the test and I blank out I feel there must be something way more efficient

fleet hill
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Hmmm have you tried doing stuff like concept maps? Like writing down a graphic organizer of all the different concepts you can remember off the top of your head from the lesson and then drawing lines between connected concepts

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That usually helps me organize my thoughts

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Also when you try to do the practice problems, are you looking at the notes or doing them completely on your own? Usually it helps to try to make your study environment as similar to your test environment as possible so your brain is already comfortable working in that kind of space

clever badger
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I'm studying for my precal midterm right now and have been for the past week or 2 and im honestly just so exhausted and struggling a lot mentally trying to get all I need to pass it since I HAVE to get a good grade to keep my scholarship. Does anyone have any advice for what I should focus on getting down? Like I just don't know where to start and it's so stressful not knowing how or where to start

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Theres also so much to memorize but I don't even know all I should memorize -3-

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The only things I know for sure rn is that I suck at fractal decomposition and I need to memorize the key points of trig functions, unit circle values, and the trig values for the various type of right triangles

undone carbon
scenic shuttle
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mossy shadowBOT
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Aκιρɑ

scenic shuttle
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lmao

edgy sierra
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t hank you so much

clever badger
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Money?! Where??

edgy sierra
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i already got it

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7777 billion from elon musk

scenic shuttle
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cap

undone carbon
scenic shuttle
undone carbon
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Oh ok thx

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Can you recommend me some apps?

scenic shuttle
undone carbon
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Thx

scenic shuttle
edgy sierra
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w hat a generous man

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it's a good thing he'll be the one implanting mind chips into our brains

green terrace
royal basin
mossy shadowBOT
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ali yassine

royal basin
true mauve
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man i want to be able to study for hours on end, but i end up rotting on my phone or letting my social life take up the entire day

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i know i have it in me to study more, ive studied for like 7 hours straight some days. I just can't do it consistently

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i enjoy math/computer science, and i have a decent understanding of stuff. I just don't know why i cant sit down and get stuff done.

tacit glen
scenic shuttle
# true mauve i know i have it in me to study more, ive studied for like 7 hours straight some...

i get it, this is a really common problem, so don't be too hard on yourself. u have already shown u can focus for a long time. the key is just doing it more often. for me, starting things early helps me a lot. even when i don't feel like it, just getting going takes away so much stress, and i still end up getting things done without last minute panic. since your phone is a big distraction, try leaving it in another room when u need to study. it sounds simple, but it really works

also, try starting with a super small goal. don't plan to study for hours. just plan for like one hour. anyone can do one hour or less and once u start, it's easier to keep going catscream and don't forget to take breaks and do stuff u enjoy, like a walk, listen to music, or a hobby. that's basically not wasted time but rather it helps your brain rest and come back stronger(this is what I usually do as a hobby CB_bongokitty)

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u already like the stuff u study, so ur halfway there. just make it a little easier to start and dont forget to take care of yourself. u've got this catthumbsup

hazy vigil
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Get this app

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It locks you out of distracting apps on your phone for set amounts of time to help you focus and what you want to do

rocky terrace
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Dank Green

dusty path
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Is this right or there are some error on it?

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i will have a test of combinatorics tomorrow and idk nothing about it

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i just cant understand it 😭 😭 😭

edgy sierra
dusty path
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Btw, is there a easy way to solve all exercices about combinatorics ?

edgy sierra
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no

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there is an easier way but not an easy way

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you just have to note words

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some of it is already there

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"without repetition" choose n then choose n - 1, n - 2 and so on

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"with repetition" choose n^k

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"arrangement" k-permutations

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"select distinct objects" binomial coefficients or combination without repetition

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"select the same objects" multinomial coefficients or combination with repetition

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the first two are multiplication principle btw

dusty path
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I hope get at least positive in the test

edgy sierra
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good luck 💜

dusty path
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How???

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How bro 😭😭😭

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The last one

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Só choose you one of the easiers

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I just need to understand that for tomorrow 😭😞

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You are talking about permutation without repetition right

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So yeah its easy

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The ONLY i understand

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Nope, idk what the k means, and how to use

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Yeahh ig

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Yeah yeah, i ve solved exercices like that in shcool

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Ofc

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Yes

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Wait

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5 (letters) * 4( combinations)

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Is that ?

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Ok ok

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Ahhh

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That makes sense

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Thanks bro

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Can u explain the last

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Pls

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Okk, but tomorrow i Will not need since tomorrow is my test

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Thnxx bro

glass gull
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What are some learning tip thats niche or should be use to maximize the gaining of intuition when it comes to studying math in your own time ?

glass gull
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We're learning abt derivative of trigs rn. I want to attemp to provem some of them so I can understand them more.

From your experience right, are there merits to attempting proof by yourself ? How long should one try before looking at the textbook?

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Im kinda walking around rn, ignore the horrific grammars lol

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Yep

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Like derivative sinx = cosx

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You're majoring in pure math? How is that going for you man

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Man thats great, sorry for my intrusiveness but what are you looking to do once you graduate ?

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Lolol

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So the main route? Thats smart, security for your future and flexbility to switch industry

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Yeah I get you, im not at any lvl near you, but phd does seems pretty scary and time consuming if you dont have the goal of researching

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But hey, thanks for the insight. Means a lot from someone with more experience than I do

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Cheers!

glacial raven
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What is a cool video to perform better at math and the university?

edgy sierra
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cat videos

rocky terrace
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Do a master's in theoretical physics

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in ETHZ

hazy vigil
rocky terrace
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I've heard of Leeds and Paris-Saclay

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Gottingen as well

glacial raven
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Is jspark good?

scenic shuttle
untold meadow
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We have run out of index variables and have resorted to using sans serif variables

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Oh wrong channel

untold meadow
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Hm? You mean the font?

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This is my homework writeup

green terrace
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ahh

solemn surge
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Hey people, can yall give me any study tips, its exam season and there are a lot of subjects to organise, help?

main trail
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just wanted general advice on how long I need for something

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Jordan-von Neumann Theorem

sour mirage
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dont phd programs in europe usually require a masters beforehand as well

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then it makes more sense to consider not getting a phd

in america its generally straight from bachelors to phd in math, and in phd they'll cover tuition and give you a stipend and you'll get your masters along the way

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its also less feasible to get into a phd in math in america if you take too long after your bachelors since they generally expect recent graduates but there are probably exceptions

rocky terrace
sour mirage
rocky terrace
sour mirage
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this is the same thing im thinking

rocky terrace
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I'll finish up by 45

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I'll take my time 🗣️ 🔥

sour mirage
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still 4 year undergrad but im thinking of finishing my phd by 25 yea

rocky terrace
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This is true

sour mirage
rocky terrace
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but who says I can't finish my PhD before Abbott

sour mirage
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since my senior year is really when i plan to do most of my grad courses

rocky terrace
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When did you change ETHZ to Cambridge?

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😢

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funding for intl PhD students in UK is kinda wack

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Didn't Einstein graduate from ETHZ?

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Okay 🫡

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I was thinking Max Planck Institute in Germany but okay that works too

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Or Perimeter Institute in Waterloo

main trail
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Is it normal for assignment problems to take forever to solve or am I doing something wrong

edgy sierra
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yes

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it's normal to spend hours on a problem

main trail
edgy sierra
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same thing

main trail
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got it

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tq

rocky terrace
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but usually you should aim to solve problems relatively quickly, especially if it's standard textbook exercises or assignment problems

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else you'll end up spending several days on simple intro analysis exercises like me bleakcat

main trail
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which makes sense tbf

rocky terrace
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That's the funniest part

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it wasn't even Rudin kekw

main trail
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abbott?

rocky terrace
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Yup

main trail
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Oh, I think I got it

rocky terrace
main trail
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lemme write it down to verify

main trail
rocky terrace
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idk what that means, I just learn math I don't pay attention to my grades sotrue

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That's probably why they're so bad

edgy sierra
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learn math as a recreational activity

rocky terrace
#

Learn math to become the best mathematician ever

main trail
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unrelated, is using $\Psi$ considerd bad practice in LA

mossy shadowBOT
main trail
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like does it have a specific meaning ot smthng

wispy zephyr
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what makes you think it is?

main trail
#

wdym

wispy zephyr
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like i don't know of any LA uses of Ψ but also this question is coming from somewhere right

main trail
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is all

green terrace
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I have never seen (\Psi) used in LA

mossy shadowBOT
#

Local FIS Shill (She/Her)

glacial raven
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do u guys ever feel like there is too much things to study

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how do u go through it

scenic shuttle
#

thats how I usually go through it

eager halo
#

But that's fine

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As long as it does not have a canonical meaning in your current field of study, you can feel free to use it.

eager halo
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E.g. You want to eventually get to Diff Geo? Think about what you can start with to get there.

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But also make your journey fun

glacial raven
#

How i study math like a university student of the soviet union?

green terrace
eager halo
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Uhh I forgot

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I'll dig it up later

main trail
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I'm planing for next sem rn

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and kind of conflicted

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on one hand want to do a bunch of courses , to learn as much as I can

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on the other hand, burn out

eager halo
scenic shuttle
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@swift tartan the website u gave me couple days ago, do u know if u could draw something like this?

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im looking for ground but cant find it >:(

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maybe I have to draw it that way kekw

swift tartan
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I dont really make circuit diagrams

wispy zephyr
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there are probably dedicated programs for circuitikz which are more suitable for circuit diagrams

scenic shuttle
scenic shuttle
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im changing my mind, this software is so ass

swift tartan
#

Nothing will be better than that

misty thicket
#

Yeah the other one is “proto”

scenic shuttle
#

sometimes when I work on drawing a diagram with tikz, it takes a lot of time and when it doesn’t work out, it feels like such a waste and makes it harder to catch up on my other classes for studying

scenic shuttle
misty thicket
#

Lemme check

scenic shuttle
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holy shit

misty thicket
#

They have dark modeKEK

scenic shuttle
#

those are so fire bro

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thanks a lot

scenic shuttle
misty thicket
scenic shuttle
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yeah its looking fire

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I make my notes with dark mode in my ipad so I could just screenshot them and place it into notes

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thanks again :D

misty thicket
#

No problem kannawave

frozen stratus
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Nice 👍

rocky terrace
eager halo
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Almost forgot my sotrues there.

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On a more serious note, have you used CircuiTikZ GUI editors? E.g. this is the first one I found online https://circuit2tikz.tf.fau.de/designer/

eager halo
torn olive
#

Wait how do you type on the iPad

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Carry a keyboard?

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Do you have a rec?

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Or just the standard keyboard?

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@eager halo

eager halo
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I have some Logitech case with a keyboard

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Looks like this

scenic shuttle
#

im slow at tikz

eager halo
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Not a good feeling keyboard but it works and the case is pretty darn rugged.

scenic shuttle
eager halo
#

Anyways, as aforementioned, there are GUI editors for CircuiTikZ which makes this point mute.

eager halo
scenic shuttle
#

only if i can find a part time job, sure…

eager halo
#

You can get a cheap one?

scenic shuttle
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still shrug

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yeah im suffering lol

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i plan getting this keyboard from temu

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@eager halo

safe harbor
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Using a terminal emulator

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Like a-shell

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Or others

eager halo
#

I tried it before; didn't find a way to make it work.

eager halo
#

Anyways you wouldn't be beating the performance of a GitHub Codespace which itself already outperforms my laptop's I7 at TeX compilations.

safe harbor
#

I've used it before

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It comes prepackaged with TeXLive and vim

scenic shuttle
raven kindle
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vim+typst+git🗿

eager halo
cold sundial
#

how do u guys study for olympiad math

reef ocean
eager halo
reef ocean
#

it's been a while since I taught olympiad-ish stuff but really it's just getting a group to solve problems guided by a tutor lol

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that's like the ideal setup imo

reef ocean
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otherwise u can find worksheets or like, the Art of Problem Solving books these are good

cold sundial
#

bet

scenic shuttle
glacial raven
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I will start university rn, what study routine should i follow?

scenic shuttle
scenic shuttle
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hmm fair

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I would probably say study stuff before u attend the lectures and use online sources if u cant understand something(e.g yt or similar). also dont forget to have good sleep schedule and take breaks as needed. make friends and study with them too

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I feel like biology also requires a lot of memorizing so u could plan doing this too

steep grove
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Do everything right away like he said

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Consider learning ahead if you can and have time

glacial raven
#

Good

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Thank you all

rocky terrace
#

But I no longer want it to be me bleakkekw

rocky terrace
#

One of these years I'll succeed

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Nah

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I'll succeed this year

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this semester!

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"When mq knows I'm succeeding but he just can't prove it"

steep grove
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But why do you do that?

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I used to be that person but don't you want to do well?

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Sorry I can't tell apart the mannerisms of millions of random strangers online

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All bundled with different personalities

green terrace
rancid atlas
#

Does anyone have tips on how to remember past math subjects in order to make connections with new ones and deepen your understanding on how things work? Instead of memorising formulas taken for granted

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Since I can't depend on school to help me with that

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I'm trying to wrap my head around how I'll have time to review past subjects but surely there's a way... right?

midnight linden
#

has anyone prepared for oxbridge maths interviews and if so how did you prepare

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i think i’m very good at a level stuff but if it’s BMO then i don’t exactly know how to go about a problem and it makes me feel uncomfortable

livid zenith
#

There's no secret though, except reviewing things every once in a while (you can do that every break, or every big breaks, just before starting school again)

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In maths, new topics will often call on what you've learned prior to the course, so you'll also naturally retain some of the main properties/theorems, but it's still good to review them to have them in mind when you encounter them

steep grove
#

Yea

rancid atlas
# livid zenith In maths, new topics will often call on what you've learned prior to the course,...

I see, the thing is that I used to study maths very shallowly, memorising for tests only and not caring to understand the logic and the origin of the formulas (they weren't taught as well). So now I feel like I'm missing the essential connections and intuition and that there's a lot to catch up on... I'm willing to work to catch up on really understanding the material but I'm hesitating on which way to tackle it from (since changing methods later on in a major way will be exhausting). Do I start working on making flashcards on theorems/properties and note my personal notes on the side? Or do I take a notes first approach using Obsidian and later figure out a way to review those notes in a spaced manner (I believe there's a plugin but it's something to verify)

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Hence why I'm asking here since I'm sure there are lads who have achieved what I'm trying to achieve and I'd prefer to learn from their experience rather than experimenting (which i'll still do obviously but much less if someone were to guide me)

livid zenith
winter nebula
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I picked up a math book on the topic I want to learn

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and supplement it with online resources whatever I could find

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and focus on the exercises a lot

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And most of the time, a book has a lot of subtopics which build up on previous topics , that teaches you how to connect things from one topic to another

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Memorising for tests only and not caring to understand the logic and the origin of the formulas (they weren't taught as well).
I would say you should try to prove and find justification for every theorem you encounter

winter nebula
#

For example, you may study the unit circle and how it derives the trigonometric formulas, that way you also don't need to memorize how do the values for sin 30 cos 30 come from, it will just click in your head automatically once you've internalized the concept

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TLDR: To internalize the math concepts, try to find justification for every formula you're using, and solve a lot more difficult questions (without seeing solution, just struggle through it, until you can't find any way to solve it at all) . Read more if you aren't clear about a concept, look for more resources. And when reading math, make sure you write down and try to follow whats it about.

scenic shuttle
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what is best study method for understanding flip flops in logic gates?

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specifically stuff like this

scenic shuttle
#

im not sure if this channel is only related to math but I would be appreciated if anyone knows any study methods catscream

scenic shuttle
#

just asking that bc friends also doesnt get it either 💔

rancid atlas
# scenic shuttle in general

To me the best one is the feynman technique, it's essentially explaining what you've learnt to someone else (could be imaginary), it should be so simply articulated a 5yo, or a person with no experience in the field could understand

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there are a lot more really, such as spaced repetition/active recall, blurting, mind maps, ... some work better than others in certain subjects and some may not work at all for you, the key is to mix and mash and see what works for you ultimately

scenic shuttle
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alright ill try this, thanks for the suggestion DGcatShake

long hedge
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No 1 study tip spend less time decorating ur discord profile and more time studyingopencry

tropic void
long hedge
long hedge
tropic void
#

Mathjax

long hedge
#

U hv mac or windows ?

tropic void
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Windows

long hedge
#

Hmmm

tropic void
#

I think mathjax should work on both

long hedge
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Cn i dm you about it ?

tropic void
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No

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It’s built into Anki dw

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I think the Anki manual covers it

long hedge
#

Hmm i have some anki stuff but they dont render

long hedge
tropic void
#

That’s not really how mathjax works

heavy needle
scenic shuttle
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I have paused my music for 3 hours just to get some shit done and i finally finished it o7

long hedge
scenic shuttle
#

just trying to look up some video for this

long hedge
#

ig you just preferred vibe here than in bme or engineering server

scenic shuttle
long hedge
scenic shuttle
scenic shuttle
long hedge
scenic shuttle
scenic shuttle
#

uwu

long hedge
scenic shuttle
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😭 ok

long hedge
scenic shuttle
#

engineering students, right?

long hedge
#

yes

scenic shuttle
long hedge
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damn

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when i was on it it was very active

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idk what your question is related to but try joining the specific engineering one, if it's electrical, the electrical engineering one has 20k

scenic shuttle
scenic shuttle
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im gonna be patient and give it two days maybe

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thanks for the suggestion tho and hopefully ill find someone who knows about this stuff catscream

frail sable
#

What knowledge must I have before studying spectral graph theory?

rancid atlas
# tropic void Anki is great

How do your cards look like over there? I’m trying to start using Anki for my studies but have no idea how I should structure my cards to avoid the trap of rote memorisation. Any tips?

tropic void
#

I just significantly widened what was worth putting on a card

rancid atlas
#

So rather than the standard “What’s the quadratic equation” cards you make more “Why are a and c multiplied by 4” type of cards

tropic void
rancid atlas
#

I see, and you review them like any other normal card (using the again-easy buttons at the bottom)?

rancid atlas
#

Cool, thanks a lot catlove

rocky terrace
amber wraith
#

How am i supposed to learn 500 proofs without memorising 500 proofs is there an easy way to know them all without literally just remembering them individually

long hedge
#

Dont memorize proofs, memorize ideas

deft cove
#

Is making a sort of checklist system good for organizing work?

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like gamifying our tasks

amber wraith
amber wraith
long hedge
# amber wraith Yeah idk what that means tho

WHen you think of a difficult proof, that's quite long, it's usually not the entirety of proof that is difficult, it is a few specific ideas that are difficult to think about

long hedge
amber wraith
edgy sierra
amber wraith
long hedge
#

if you don't want to think about proofs, it's a bit harsh but i wouldn't recommend a math degree

edgy sierra
#

you also don't always have to prove something from scratch

amber wraith
long hedge
#

the entire like allure of a math degree as opposed to physics or engineering is that you can do proofs

edgy sierra
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sometimes there is a previously proved theorem

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or lemma you can use

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if you want you can also do corollaries that aren't exercises

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just to think about what you proved

long hedge
edgy sierra
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it works

edgy sierra
long hedge
amber wraith
edgy sierra
#

just think

amber wraith
#

I dont like to think

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It hurts ny head

edgy sierra
#

it's very mentally taxing because it has to be

amber wraith
#

🥀

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

yeah i just skip to the proof

amber wraith
edgy sierra
#

i don't have the attention span to read past 2 sentences

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then i end up in a dead end

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then i read it again

amber wraith
#

I find sometimes the sentence helps explain it

long hedge
amber wraith
edgy sierra
#

also what are you studying

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and what were your prerequisites

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

some people skip to whatever without doing discrete math

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

which is what you need to have a steady path to either early algebra or analysis

edgy sierra
amber wraith
edgy sierra
amber wraith
#

Ohh ok

edgy sierra
#

but it's also broad enough to be an introductory proof writing class

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

it has sets, relations, functions, cardinalities, etc

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which are very common in pure math

safe harbor
#

The best intro to proof writing is choosing a different major

edgy sierra
safe harbor
#

Discrete math is not well defined but it isn't reserved for countable things

edgy sierra
#

idk what mine was about

safe harbor
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Like you said, cardinalities, and most of those ain't countable

amber wraith
edgy sierra
#

we had counting and binomial coefficients

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

but for some reason that turned into

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yeah there was also

long hedge
edgy sierra
#

Graphs

edgy sierra
#

it's like the early topics

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that's after the triangle inequality

amber wraith
long hedge
edgy sierra
#

t his is me doing any exercise

amber wraith
long hedge
amber wraith
#

Idk what im doing im so lost ngl

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😭😭

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Too many words

long hedge
amber wraith
#

Whats that supposed to mean

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😭

edgy sierra
#

number 1 tip

amber wraith
#

I cba ngl

edgy sierra
#

switch to cs

amber wraith
#

I cant program

edgy sierra
#

never shower again for the rest of your life

long hedge
amber wraith
#

I was gonna do cs course after this anyways

long hedge
#

no need to be cs major

edgy sierra
#

zawg

long hedge
#

showering is for engineers

edgy sierra
#

half showers

amber wraith
#

they shower with wd40

safe harbor
long hedge
safe harbor
#

Ah makes sense

amber wraith
safe harbor
#

It isn't tho

long hedge
amber wraith
edgy sierra
#

what if switzerland was in space and the only reason people can go there is because there are portals around it

long hedge
amber wraith
#

Switzerland and belgium need to be absorbed by their neighbouring countries atp

safe harbor
#

Swiss banking isn't the same as it used to be

amber wraith
long hedge
amber wraith
#

Switzerland didn't even invent the matcha dubai chocolate bar 🥀

#

L

edgy sierra
#

labubu

amber wraith
#

Labuubuuu

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La bu la bu la buu buuu

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I have 67 dubai Chocolate matcha labubus who wants one

long hedge
#

i prefer swiss chocolate

amber wraith
#

Dubai chocolate (67%) matcha labubu >> any swiss chocolate

midnight linden
#

anything but locking in

main trail
#

Need general advice, how do i deal with not ebing able to do assignment questions

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It's due in about 5 weeks, but more assignments will come soon( which will also be due by november end)

dense delta
#

Umm can I get some help in trigonometry

worn wharf
#

Khan Academy gets recommended a lot too

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mainly for the quizzes

dense delta
dense delta
viral osprey
#

I used to just start my hw early, do as much as I could and then live at office hours to bug my profs for hints on anything I was stuck on or curious about.

glacial raven
#

if anyone is free, i need some advice

viral osprey
#

Yep

viral osprey
#

Okay

long hedge
#

Chatgpt is my office hours

glacial raven
#

im competing in the physics Olympiads and im also in the UKMT , i dont know whta to do like how to get ready for them

viral osprey
#

U gotta rizz ur way into more office hours.

long hedge
long hedge
viral osprey
#

If u don't it's a skill issue on ur end bud smugsmug

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Realistically if I did not have office hours I'd probably just come to places like this and bug people with the same shit I do at office hours.

long hedge
#

Or just ask my friends

viral osprey
#

I wouldn't use chatgpt for most of my stuff.

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If none of the above there's always the library I guess.

long hedge
#

It kinda sucks now for harder proofs tbh

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But i can use it in simpler courses

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And to recall definitions and statements quickly in upper level courses

steep grove
#

Pls do good in the ukmt

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I did bad twice and kinda regret it

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BC ik if I tried I could've done better

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Well ig u do physics Olympiad

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But this is a maths server

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So maths >]]]]

long hedge
scenic shuttle
#

It does suck actually bc one of my classmates said, "I can't understand anything" so I checked what she was studying with and it turns out she was using gpt. I was like, "oh, that explains why you can't understand anything" kekw

long hedge
#

you have to use it well and it depends on what you use it for

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When I used it for multivariable. it had like a 99% chance of getting the answer correct

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and would explain and have multiple methods

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when i used it in my second course in algebra it's not effective in solving problems, so i primarily use it to recall definitions and statements

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'don't judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree'

long hedge
scenic shuttle
#

it stands for direct current

long hedge
#

oh

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i'm not an engineer thankfully

scenic shuttle
#

as an engineer, I can tell that gpt is so bullshit at this

devout sun
#

ive found it fairly useful lol

long hedge
#

after being attacked for like a year on this server for using chatgpt

devout sun
#

the only problem is sometimes, i will write a proof and maybe chuck it in

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and it'll say im wrong

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and im like "no, im right" and i refute its point

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and it is like "yeah youre right"

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and then later i realize i was in fact, wrong

long hedge
#

it is too much of a yes man

devout sun
long hedge
#

i found claude better in that respect

devout sun
#

the thing is sometimes it is wrong so like

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yeah

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i find it explains stuff from textbooks in a slightly easier way to read often

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like, a better wikipedia kinda

long hedge
#

it's good for dissecting unfamilar notation

scenic shuttle
long hedge
#

especially when i change reading source and discover different notation, using it quickly to beocme familiar helps a lot

devout sun
#

ive also given it a fair amount of exercises and it does pretty well

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probably just its fat training data but

long hedge
devout sun
#

other ppl say its ass tho so idk

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recently ive only given it intro analysis and measure theory problems

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i hear ppl say it fails basic hs algebra though which is cooked

long hedge
#

i just don't think it's true for the latest models if you put thinking mode

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unless you use a very eccentric visual question

devout sun
#

i also tried giving it a calculus assignment i did last year after i finished mine, and yeah it was not cooking

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the assignment was to essentially make a graph of a roller coaster using 4 functions, ie a piecewise function, connecting the 4 functions in such a way that the graph is continuous and the derivative is continuous, and the slope of the graph doesnt go over or under 80 degrees from the horizontal

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and less than 150 tall or smth

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but it failed to even connect the endpoints of the diff functions often, let alone making it C1

scenic shuttle
#

something like this takes about 15 minutes to find the unknown variables

long hedge
#

tbh if i had to study engineering

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i'd be an electrical engineer

scenic shuttle
#

LOL

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I saw what you deleted

long hedge
scenic shuttle
long hedge
#

yall from the same country

devout sun
#

nah

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canada

scenic shuttle
#

oh fair

devout sun
#

although we just did voltage current resistance

scenic shuttle
#

I never took physics after gr10

long hedge
#

future uoft student(s)

devout sun
#

my eng class killing my dreams

long hedge
devout sun
#

theres a decent chance i finish this year with a top 6 of a 99, 4 100s, and an 87 in english or smth

long hedge
#

holy grade inflation

scenic shuttle
#

99 is crazy flex

devout sun
#

yes well, everywhere has grade inflation

long hedge
devout sun
#

so my english is probably gonna kill my uoft app

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some random kid is gonna have the same stats as me

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but like a 95 in english

long hedge
devout sun
#

and i wont get in 💀

devout sun
devout sun
#

that was in calc, embarrassingly

long hedge
#

from what i remember he didn't have better grades

devout sun
#

what year is he

long hedge
#

senior

devout sun
#

bc like grade inflation has gotten worse lol

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yeah ok

long hedge
#

he went to uoft as a backup from waterloo

scenic shuttle
# devout sun nah

never understood how ppl actually get high grades in hs bc for me it was so different

devout sun
#

yeah i was thinking waterloo was my first choice but eh

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i recently looked at course stuff for uoft and i think its my first choice now

scenic shuttle
#

there must be a secret

devout sun
#

thats why so inflated

long hedge
devout sun
#

oops

#

😭

scenic shuttle
devout sun
#

i have

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well i need to submit my AIF still

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been procrastinating doing this for 1 month

long hedge
#

bro this so ez

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just claude this

devout sun
long hedge
#

create a story that's specific to you so it's seems you didn't make it up, e.g if you were captain of football team talk about football and then make up a story

devout sun
#

most of my friends who dont do as well in math classes, for eg, just dont get the material at a deeper lvl

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they kinda just sit in class, listen to teacher and copy down everything the teacher writes with their brains turned off, do like 4 practice problems and then get cooked on a test

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i think if ppl spent like 30-60 mins every other sch day outside of class on the internet trying to understand concepts on a better lvl theyd be chilling

long hedge
devout sun
#

but scrolling is esaier

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progressive overload on the thumb

scenic shuttle
#

I couldn't practice enough for math bc of my english teacher keeps saying this is not ur work

devout sun
scenic shuttle
#

I had af and calc at the same time

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and it was hard to manage them

devout sun
#

a lot of them just like

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dont try to understand

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they just want some formula for everything

scenic shuttle
#

i think vectors were so stupid in calc

devout sun
#

some mechanical process they can do every single time (which is kinda hs math tbf)

devout sun
#

completely useless

scenic shuttle
#

real

devout sun
#

it doesnt even go anywhere

long hedge
devout sun
scenic shuttle
#

my hs grades were 60-70s but uni is built different

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between 85-96

devout sun
#

tf?

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blud inverted their hs and uni grades

#

greatest academic comeback of all time

scenic shuttle
#

I mean I wouldn't care about that

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@long hedge I figured out how to understand flip flops in the end catking

scenic shuttle
#

im ready to build the stuff on breadboard

long hedge
scenic shuttle
#

no

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I would kms if i went there

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I wouldn't personally say it on public server

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there are some ppl from diff servers stalking me

long hedge
shell glade
#

probs gonna fail this semester though

novel eagle
#

ye lowkey same

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I had ~2 gpa in high school and locked in for college for like a 3.8

devout sun
long hedge
#

i have a 2.3 gpa in college

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(it's a joke)

scenic shuttle
long hedge
#

only pass/fail in my uni

scenic shuttle
#

before I quit cs I had 4gpa but im somewhat getting cooked this sem

long hedge
#

but no jobs fr

scenic shuttle
#

real

long hedge
long hedge
#

i like how they have the most calm music in the background opencry

long hedge
#

i have eyes believe it or not

scenic shuttle
#

fair

shell glade
# devout sun you also did pure math in hs, right

yea, the username is because lang’s algebra got me through the mental hospital sophomore year of high school after i hurt myself

very open about it

munkres, lang, and les miserables in the autism ward of a mental hospital

i am so glad they let me have the hardcover lang

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there were chalkboards above the beds

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and no electronics