Battlegroup 14 - 212th Logi: Comms

[violet sparrow]

Plan your battlegroup here! Discuss

[oblique pecan]

@grand sun @ebon river !

You guys got a comm chat now !

[ebon river]

Thank you kindly

[oblique pecan]

Dresden made it, I just pinged you guys in 👀

[grand sun]

212th Logistical Branch
Do you like to MOVE IT?
Key Objectives:

• Allow fighters to rearm more rapidly. They are most of the AA coverage, but are limited by having to rearm after each shot. This means they are either remaining unarmed after the first shot, or their current BG is having to pull back and leave the front line in order for the fighter to rearm.
• Leave the other BGs and make supply runs so they can keep fighting.
• Spread logistical help around to other BGs around Crossroads.

I expect the 212th to stay together for most of the campaign with the other BGs pushing toward Ziyal City.

No Speed 1 units unless it's boots and we get VTOLs to carry them please. Remember, this is a Logistical BG. We'd be helping to move supplies, units, and allowing air power to break off for rearms. Once the airfield at Crossroads is established, that would basically be our base with us moving in/out of there.

Here's a link to the roster. I'll make it fancy once we hit minimum

There's a mission statement and link to the roster. #1382045293591134218 still has the recruitment pitch, but having a channel in here might help bring people over as well.

[limber cape]

Finally getting your comms channel. Good to see

[grand sun]

Yes sir! Been posting recruiting attempts along with the others in comms and have a bunch of Anonumous animals on my sheet right now. lol

My tomorrow morning I'll start applying more pinpointed pressure in a couple of the BG channels that we'd be assisting. Fighters in main combat groups just don't make sense.

Fighters and HATs in a logi BG makes sense. lol, I'd try some of Atlas' too if I didn't recognize that you might actually need them.

[oblique pecan]

Yoink

[grand sun]

@hidden scaffold , for you buddy...

[oblique pecan]

Talking of that, I can make a poster in the same time as the leclerc for that.

[hidden scaffold]

Ah damn the gif is gone 😂

[oblique pecan]

Had the idea of the same form as the leclerc one, but if it's precisely to say "fighters and hats in a battlegroup ? why not have it in the logi battlegroup and be more flexible !" I can maybe work something out

[grand sun]

lol, I did it wrong

[grand sun]

haha work it!

Gotta go get the kids...if you see someone looking for a group that matches our unit types, feel free to spread the word. We're running out of time to hit 15 (mainly cause I didn't connect the dots initially), so all hands on deck to get people switched on board.

Ping me if you need me. I'll be on mobile once I get them

[limber cape]

If I see something, trucks and transports especially, I'll send em your way.

[grand sun]

https://tenor.com/view/moonriver-movr-gif-22054853

[oblique pecan]

...when is your tomorrow morning ?

asking for a friend, 2am here and I don't feel like working on the poster rn 😅

[grand sun]

Work on it when you want… but <t:1750165200:F>

[oblique pecan]

ayyy perfect that's my early afternoon

[deep narwhal]

Depending on how STORM's vote goes, I may request that we get BG13 (mostly for a joke/reference) - would you be amenable to being BG14 if our vote goes through?

Reference: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LoveDeathAndRobotsLucky13

[grand sun]

I’ll be honest, I don’t really care about the number at all. If y’all want 13 and the powers at be a willing to shuffle…I’m not attached to it.

Technically BG-10, TF-3, and BG-13 hadn’t met the minimum to be recognized anyway. It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the channel if a BG/TF doesn’t make it.

😅 I obviously don’t wanna find out using the 212th…but you get my point.

[oblique pecan]

How's that ?

Got this too !

[grand sun]

Haha, wonderful @oblique pecan

[oblique pecan]

Glad to be of service

[grand sun]

212th's speed is currently 4. I believe that makes us one of the fastest BGs. We currently can go at speed 5 tho if I carry the mech.

[oblique pecan]

Got a HAT too, good stuff !

Welcome in to the 212th @plucky river

I know I'm not part of the 212th, but I still feel like helping and welcoming people if you don't mind 👀

[plucky river]

Whao. I'm here to help recruit. Not accautly be a part of this

[oblique pecan]

a?

looks at roster

...b-but your name is in

[plucky river]

Yeah. If the roster has more names more people will sign up

[oblique pecan]

True

Propaganda efforts !
Let me write up my MBT... 🤣

(i'm not btw)

[plucky river]

I might leave, but TF Victorum has open CS and I'm giving them 2.

[grand sun]

I very much appreciate your help. I'll likely be more pinpointed with my recruitment attempts today and actually try sniping people from some of the BGs we'd be servicing...especially fighters.

[plucky river]

So Big ***** Next to my name

[oblique pecan]

I'd be willing to throw a vtol or two if I got at around ~20 members, and the said VTOLs were okay with it.

Don't wanna go from 17 to 15, wanna have a little cushion of "hey we exist" xD

Which we'll probably get soon enough.

[grand sun]

Either way I appreciate the help. Having the 212th this campaign would be huge for supply flow and for fighters that want to protect the front while also fire more than once.

[plucky river]

I agree.
It's probably more important than victorum. But I want to see the current interaction with a TF that I can have.
The stragetic layer is supoosed to be a big thing for HATs but I'm not really seeing rn.
Though Orbitals help a lot.

[grand sun]

Obviously 100% your choice. I haven't looked at Victorum's goals lately, so I definitely don't know how a HAT would assist in that...but it's also all up to how people want to play.

[plucky river]

I'm mostly the troop transport and bringing a cargo bay.
If we need to move people between orbitals

Also we can cheese a little bit more supply out of our LS if needed.

[grand sun]

gotcha

[grand sun]

TFs are huge. I think each TF we have is critical...it's just a question of what they're doing and what units help with what they're doing.

Victorum is the main firepower TF and a LS source...even if we have Atlas now too.

[plucky river]

Yeah. I think most HATs are in Atlas and they'll probably be moving around to supply everyone

I need to get back to work though

Feel free to ping me if you need me

[grand sun]

Atlas reached out to me to work with the 212th since we'd be helping to reduce their workload and allow them to not have to necessarily move more forward than Crossroads.

@ebon river If we make 15, do you wanna backup TCO?

[ebon river]

Absolutely

Was actually going to ask about that

[grand sun]

Have you been a TCO?

[ebon river]

No, and I figured backup would be a good way to ease into it

[grand sun]

Sure thing! I'll put you down so we're ready to go quickly once we hit 15.

[ebon river]

My main issue is keeping up when the chat gets fast, but processing orders I can definitely do

[grand sun]

[ebon river]

Thank you kindly

[grand sun]

I haven't announced in #1382781756989767692 yet since we're still a ways from being official.

But I'll be sure to keep you looped in

[ebon river]

Thank you kindly

[oblique pecan]

Welcome in Tydeus ? 👀

[grand sun]

That was my first recruit. a logi LM.

[oblique pecan]

Ah.

A bit late on the welcome aren't I ? 🤣

It's the intention that counts right guys ?

[ebon river]

I’ve been lurking around waiting for a logi battlegroup to pop up

[grand sun]

😜 obviously you're more than a logi LM, but that's how I've been advertising it.

[ebon river]

It’s a funny enough concept to be a good hook, keep at it

[tidal yarrow]

AutoDave are you Primary TCO for this group?

if so whos your backup?

[grand sun]

Yessir! I'd be TCO here and @ebon river (our logi LM) would be my backup TCO

Didn't know how close to official you wanted us before I participated in #1382781756989767692 .

[ebon river]

Yep, good morning Captain

[limber cape]

howdy 212. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but I want to be prepped just in case.

In the event you guys don't hit the minimum, would you guys be interested in integrating w/ Atlas? As of now, we could slip both the HVTOL and the HAT into empty slots. For the LM we would just install an extra mech bay and they would have a slot on a heavy drop pod. its not as good as having a dedicated logi BG, but its an option that keeps you together and on a similar mission profile.

another option could be yall join w/ iron hammer, pop them to 20, and i believe Atlas is bringing them to Elim. then you guys can be on the ground early to set up some kind of logistics before the rest of the BGs get brought in?

[oblique pecan]

Hewwo, Iron Hammer here, it is still undecided if Atlas will carry us or Pathfinders. It will depend on our numbers close to the end of the sign-ups.

[limber cape]

i've been told we have a pref for hammers, so im just working w/ the most likely scenario

[sleek cape]

Hammer nor Pathfinders of us would say no to logi reinforcement, but Iron Hammer does have more anti-armor hitting power than Pathfinders: we always intended to be scouts and light pickets, so maybe not as good for first drop

[grand sun]

Thank you for the backup offer, I will keep that in mind. As far as I know, the BG/TFs we were in still have our spots (I haven't officially withdrawn from Venator and Cobalt was still on TF 1's roster last I knew as well)

Sumer's first deployment was with Dawn, so I'd like to keep the ability to help him since this is Dawn's first time back since then.

[grand sun]

Welcome @versed locust!

[versed locust]

Thanks guys. Hoping we can get some more units on board because this sounds like a really cool concept!

[grand sun]

I added a dropdown column to track original BG/TF so we can make sure that if we pull from a BG/TF, we also try to support that BG/TF to show that we're in this to help the situation, not make it worse

[grand sun]

Most of the people I have talked to agree that this is the kind of thing that makes the most sense in the current system and allows for everyone involved to honestly have more fun...but agreeing and actually joining have been a huge disconnect.

Everyone has the old self-sufficient BG mindset and switching to a "the true strength is super specialized BGs" mindset is a struggle

[grand sun]

Not that y'all would...but don't post anything about 212th in #1382037860277948486 . Apparently I struck a nerve with people.

I've bowed out rather than continuing to try to explain that the costs they're seeing aren't real...so I wanna make sure no one reading this starts anything else up.

[oblique pecan]

I'm willing to point a few of our VTOLs there with their consent, but I'd like to have more then 17 people to propose such a thing first 😅
Would be a shame to go "hey have our vtols", then 2 guys for some reason don't join the campaign, and badaboom we're under 15 and not a thing anymore

Edited09 (Iron Hammer/Draketa)
French we've worked so hard for those VTOLs tho 🥺

Frenchboi [Iron Hammer TAC-COM]
But it's for the good cause !
Snowball effect and all that, if even a small squadron like Iron Hammer can donate some of their VTOLs (with their consent, and only when we're gonna be around 20 people), then maybe other battlegroups may donate (still with consent) fighters, hats or vtols too !

I swear, if I get 3 more peeps...

[grand sun]

lol, it is what it is. I'm late and people aren't used to working this closely with others...or rather...they aren't used to having to think about multiple maps and everyone in the group having to remain at the same point

[oblique pecan]

I'm trying to help as I can, I know how it is to start a small group late, I've done so twice now. That's what Iron Hammer's been.

[grand sun]

I do appreciate it

[oblique pecan]

But while in C3 slots were 30 max, and thus everyone had to forcefully funnel to Iron Hammer since, well, everybody is either full or specializes in fighters.
This time it's 60 max and there are open slots everywhere, it's... Been harder.

[oblique pecan]

United by lack of manpower brother. That's how we rolled with Pathfinders and Custodian, that's how I'll roll with you.

[versed locust]

Hopefully we can get some interest from the previous C3 ATC fighters / bombers, since this battlegroup would function like that but with an added logistical elements

[oblique pecan]

I really hope if I get the 3 last guys I need and I can get you guys VTOL, that'll push the ball and get you guys going.

[grand sun]

Next campaign there'll be a logi BG recruiting in the opening salvo. Difference will be that not only will it be early on, but people will have seen why this is such a good idea

[oblique pecan]

Like, imagine the propaganda.
"Look, theses guys who barely fucking meet the 15 quota just gave out their logistics even if they barely have any. Why wouldn't you with 60 units ?"

IMAGINE.

One can only hope.

Also welcome @versed locust !

[grand sun]

Most of the bombers I've seen went TF

Also, you staying BG 2 unless we hit 15...yeah? If we don't hit min, they'll need all the logi they can get.

[versed locust]

Yeah I’m sticking with them if this doesn’t work out. Really hoping this does work though because this will still be able to support them as well as help other groups

[grand sun]

@ebon river If we don't hit minimum, you going to rejoin Spearhead?

[grand sun]

I think our cut off is <t:1750453200:F> based on the timeline Tabby released in Fluffle before they hit minimum. I won't be quitting till then...but I'm not going to ping people and I'm not going to poke further in other BG comms

[oblique pecan]

Christ, this early.

[grand sun]

It's 5pm Friday for Captain tho

[oblique pecan]

No I meant, "this early" as in "so soon", not "this early" as in "wow this is 4am"

That time is about 11pm for me 😅

so, basically 3 more days, damn.

[grand sun]

Gotcha!!

Well that's only a couple days before the start date of the campaign...which is why Tabby set their deadline I believe, unless that was actually from Captain

[ebon river]

I think that’s the plan

[grand sun]

Hoping it doesn't come to that, but I also want to make sure I'm taking care of my people

[ebon river]

Want us to poke around for volunteers?

[sleek cape]

Unfortunately it's competing heavily with VTOLs as tactical mobility: we desperately need supply lines, but it's hard to strip the only fast troop carrier out of any battlegroup

if IFVs were speed 3 like logis (and frankly they should be: they're made to be faster than tanks) then I'd volunteer in an instant

[grand sun]

Open comms for sure! prolly not BG comms. I think I've poked as much as I can in Spearhead and I already hit the line on Venator too.

[grand sun]

No worries! My aim is actually more for those that need to rearm (fighters and bombers) and those that need either airfields to resupply (HATs) or just plain a limited supply hold (logi LMs)

Normal VTOLs are actually well suited to remain in ground combat BGs in my opinion since they don't need to reload

I wouldn't turn them down of course, but they at least make sense in the other BGs too

[ebon river]

Honestly sounds like we’re more logi trucks, HATs, and airbase support

[grand sun]

For sure!

[sleek cape]

Yep. I do with there was some way for them to be used as scouts, though: it's really irritating that there's not even a SpecOps upgrade for them to spot gorund units

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ Gotta keep keep airborne from being the best scout option.

[versed locust]

NGL I kind of want a refit for the HAT or even VTOL that makes it function like a UAV. It might be pretty strong though

[grand sun]

The idea was floated initially that aerospace would be able to identify that something was there without identifying what it was...but it hasn't made it through

[sleek cape]

Honestly do we though? Fighters/bombers yeah, but if you spend 3 req and 2 troop capacity on a SpecOps VTOL you presumably want to be able to fly it places where there aren't friendly troops and be able to spot whether there's AA before getting shot down

Seems like the whole point of a SpecOps incursion team

[grand sun]

Like I said, it was floated...but Captain doesn't think it's the way to go atm

[sleek cape]

I'll stop complaining then

[plucky river]

Just realized. This is basically gonna be an Aerospace only BG

You and Tydeus aren't fixed wing, but that's kinda the intention behind the rule

[deep narwhal]

amusement

Does STORM not count?

[plucky river]

Storm is VTOLs

VTOls aren't fixed wing

which is the problem

[deep narwhal]

I see the fixed wing part now-

[plucky river]

All good

[grand sun]

We have a mech...

[deep narwhal]

Shoves it into an HVTOL

No you don't!

[versed locust]

We have a mech? Man I should have read the unit list more closely

[grand sun]

Tydeus is a logi LM

[plucky river]

I hope Tydeus is okay being carried

[oblique pecan]

Logi LM ? 🤣

[grand sun]

He's got a supply pack

that's 2 small supply running speed 4 and able to run evasion

[versed locust]

“Special delivery!” Says the fully armored mech towering over the infantry enthusiastically

[plucky river]

It'd be really nice if we can go over the aerospace only lines

[deep narwhal]

If everyone can be carried by aerospace? Yes.

[oblique pecan]

..woah that is really fun xD

[ebon river]

Indeed, but I’m planning on flapping my missile pods fast enough to achieve liftoff one of these days

[versed locust]

Love how it’s not even the jump jets. It’s just 2 missile pods and a dream

[ebon river]

Jump jets are expensive

Corporate doesn’t want to pay for that

Why do I feel like the mech I based NEWTON on actually has full torso twist?

If so, rotary-winged flight may also be within reach

Would be hell to pilot though

[grand sun]

Captain checked on us and then basically endorsed us. Nothing we can officially use, but it felt good.

[grand sun]

Going mobile. Ping if you need me or if there's something I need to look at

[limber cape]

oh hey, you grabbed a couple more since last i was around. its not over yet.

[grand sun]

😜 Captain’s giving it till Start time technically. Lol

Welcome @hasty garden !

[versed locust]

Nice, we got a VTOL now! Things are looking up

[grand sun]

Welcome @twin girder !

[twin girder]

Hopefully this works out

[ebon river]

Welcome to the party

[grand sun]

Indeed. We’ve climbed quite a bit today.

We’ll be assisting the Flying Shovels with their airfield now (assuming we hit minimum)

😜 since they need a HVTOL to bring them the first LS

Welcome @cunning shell ! Got a pair of mechs now.

[cunning shell]

Hello

I feel like this is going to be fun time

[grand sun]

I see the 212th doing great things. We’ll be the logistical support they needed, but didn’t realize it.

[deep narwhal]

Oh, I'm fairly certain the other BGs are aware they are quite screwed right now-
(As seen by the copious amount of logi-unit hoarding).

[grand sun]

Naw, but you see…that’s the thing. Deployment and troop movement wise, sure. There aren’t enough in Armco to deploy all our forces.

Supply wise, I don’t think we’re as bad off as people think. The “screwed” bit is that they are looking at how they can interact with the supply sources rather than zooming out and realizing they don’t have to

“We need supplies” and “We need air support” doesn’t mean that they have to do it all themselves. A handful of fighters that can only shoot once but is overhead the whole time isn’t better than having a handful of fighters cycling in and out so they can fire multiple rounds.

[cunning shell]

Here’s hoping we get the 15 mark

[cunning shell]

So

[grand sun]

We’re 7/15 (including Cobalt) and a lot of that growth happened today. Tomorrow I’ll do several recruitment posts. I’m trying not to hit it every hour, but I want it to be present enough for people to see it and I’m definitely going to hit it if I see another group do their recruitment attempt.

[cunning shell]

Should we look into getting engineers

[grand sun]

With our VTOL we can carry 6FS without reducing supply capacity…so I’m open to boots within that budget.

No Speed 1 units unless it's boots and we get VTOLs to carry them please. Remember, this is a Logistical BG. We'd be helping to move supplies, units, and allowing air power to break off for rearms. Once the airfield at Crossroads is established, that would basically be our base with us moving in/out of there.

I don’t know if we need boots or if we’d use engineers a lot, but I won’t turn down players as long as they don’t hurt our support capabilities

[cunning shell]

I’m just looking at engineers for help making buildings and supporting others with the supplies we use

I wonder if we could snag the heavy gunship

[grand sun]

• Don’t go sniping engineers, but we could have one if one wanted to join. We’ll be working with Flying Shovels, so if it’s in Crossroads, they’ll handle it. Outside of crossroads we might more be emergency repair type engi usage.
• Don’t snipe the gunship. 4 rounds of fire isn’t bad, and I don’t want to make enemies of the BGs we’re supposed to be helping by “stealing” their units.
• Don’t snipe from other groups. Our mission statements and recruitment posts should help people understand the benefits of switching and the fact that it doesn’t really cost their original BG.

[cunning shell]

Okay okey

[grand sun]

😅 recruiting is great, but I’ve poked Venator to the limit and I’ve poked Spearhead as far as I’m comfortable. At a certain point we have to just hope that they come to see the benefits of the 212th on their own, in their own time, and that their time will be before the campaign starts. Lol

[cunning shell]

Are you scared about being labeled a traitor Dave

[grand sun]

Naw, but I don’t want to start drama or get mods involved.

Captain likes what we’re trying to do, it’d be a shame for us to be shut down because BGs complained about us trying to get their people.

[cunning shell]

Agreed okay then I’ll just post the recruitment post at 1:30 am and 4:30am

[grand sun]

Plus again, we’re here to help and show the power of a logi BG in this system

[cunning shell]

For the republic of Dave

[grand sun]

This was before you joined, but the whole point of that column is to make a list of BGs and TFs that we need to prove ourselves to. Lol

[cunning shell]

Joking

[grand sun]

Wait…what time is it for you now?

[cunning shell]

12:45 am

I work 3rd

[grand sun]

Eastern US, gotcha.

[cunning shell]

You don’t remember

[grand sun]

lol, it wasn’t you still being up. It was me not remembering your time zone and realizing I didn’t know when those posts would be for me.

got it stored now tho

[deep narwhal]

Ah. Graveyard.

thank fuck I usually get exempted from that-

[cunning shell]

What

[cunning shell]

What do you mean graveyard?

[deep narwhal]

... are you not working the Graveyard shift?

(2400-0800hrs)

[cunning shell]

No

[deep narwhal]

... why are you up at 0430-

[cunning shell]

Because powder coat

I’m a factory worker

[cunning shell]

Here your answer

[deep narwhal]

Huh. What working hours?

[cunning shell]

Currently working at 8:30 pm to 6:30 am that’s my 10 hours

Normal 10:30 to 6:30

[cunning shell]

Here you go

[deep narwhal]

Ah. Pretty close to Graveyard.

Pay is better, I assume?

[cunning shell]

I wouldn’t know how much a graveyard payed

Less

[cunning shell]

Why do you care about this

[deep narwhal]

Just a stray thought.

Anyways, I'm going to sleep.
Goodnight!

[cunning shell]

Who’s up still

Want s’mores

[limber cape]

You guys are steady climbing. Nice to see.

[cunning shell]

Yup we’re getting there

Want a s’more

[limber cape]

I got a friend who's considering signing up, and I think he wants to be on the ground, so if he does, i'll send him your way

[cunning shell]

What are they

[limber cape]

Haven't decided. They mentioned maybe engineers. could help keep all your vehicles tip top.

[cunning shell]

Either way will be happy to have a another person

[limber cape]

i can't make promises, but, i'm hoping to help

[cunning shell]

Thanks for your support

[cunning shell]

sits down to eat my s’mores

Yummy 😋

No it’s mine

[cunning shell]

Okay fellow people

I’m logging off I’m certain Dave will be here in the next 20 or so minutes

[oblique pecan]

Alright, let's see if you're correct !

[cunning shell]

Why French must you test me

[oblique pecan]

Because we gotta make sure you're right 👀

[cunning shell]

Huh okay then

[cunning shell]

Dave should be on now he’s busy with personal matters right now

[oblique pecan]

Ah, alright then

[cunning shell]

Ping him do it

Go on

[oblique pecan]

Nah I don't wanna bother him.

[cunning shell]

Okay I’ll do it @grand sun say hi or react if your on

I have maybe 2 or 3 minutes of delay

[oblique pecan]

He's done it ! He's pinged him !

[cunning shell]

Ofc i would you want proof

[oblique pecan]

still not on after 20 minutes 👀

[cunning shell]

🤔 hmm

Right we’re technically not busy so he has no reason to be here early

[oblique pecan]

yup

[hidden scaffold]

Kids, job and timezone difference all being detrimental at once 😅

[oblique pecan]

Yup, ZETA HAS BEEN LYING ALL ALONG >:O

[cunning shell]

I actually haven’t

I tracked his time down because I was bored in tornado

[oblique pecan]

oh, lol

tornado the BG from C3, or tornado an actual fucking tornado ?

[cunning shell]

You can ask him

C3

[oblique pecan]

ah alright

[cunning shell]

But now that we’re not busy I don’t think he’ll be like usual

So I can’t tell ya

[grand sun]

😜 slept in this morning.

[oblique pecan]

Hah, you lazy lad!

(i would have done the same if not for hunter)

[grand sun]

Kids don't normally let me, but they did this morning so I took advantage of it. lol

[grand sun]

During that campaign kids were in school so I was on a schedule. He really did have it down to a science and knew when I normally signed off and when I normally checked in the next morning

😜 kids on summer break is throughing off his efforts this campaign tho

[deep narwhal]

You have school-age kids?

Cool.
(Is a school-age kid. Well, sorta.)

[grand sun]

Got a 18m, 4y, and 6y

[deep narwhal]

Ah. Nice!
... Sibling dynamics might be a bit interesting.
(... I wouldn't know, my siblings are much older than me-)

[plucky river]

A little baby.
I bet they're cute

[grand sun]

They do alright dynamic wise. 4y and 6y are brother and sister and we adopted each at birth via open adoption. 18m is a little bruser lol

[versed locust]

Could we get this pinned in this channel?

I may just be lazy but it’s kind of annoying to have to scroll up to find it in here

[grand sun]

I'd pin the roster if I was gonna ask for something to get pinned.

#1382045293591134218 message is also a copy of the recruitment message

That's what I've been copying for the posts in open comms

Speaking of, I'll do another one in about an hour (unless I see another group post first). Posting every 3 hours doesn't sound like spamming as much to me.

[deep narwhal]

Split went through - you still okay with us getting 13?

[grand sun]

If Captain and Dres and the team are ok changing numbers, the BG number really isn't important to me.

I'd like to remain in the same channel if possible tho since we've been using it...but I really don't care if it gets renamed with a new number

212th Logistical Branch is the name I care about. lol

[deep narwhal]

@somber knoll Could I get this channel renamed to BG14 (or another available number)?

I'll ping [Trench] in the other channel so he can find it.

[somber knoll]

Nope.

For the same reason as the other one.

[oblique pecan]

Only because I don't have permissions to manage threads created by other people though

Was scared until I read the "other one".

[somber knoll]

(secretly it's just because I don't like you guys)

[oblique pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/889079108783464468.webp?size=96

[somber knoll]

😉

[oblique pecan]

Oh Trench, makes me think

#1383066706724913293 message
#1383066706724913293 message

@somber knoll Can you pin theses 2 messages in Iron Hammer ? :D

I am aware one is literally [pin placeholder], but that means I can have an message that's already pinned, and that I can edit into one I want that will already be pinned and not have to ping a mod 🧠

[grand sun]

Hey! Ask for pins in your own channel! 😜

[oblique pecan]

Hey, I'm catching him while he's here alright ! 🤣

[grand sun]

We're doing something right! Just need 8 more members

[cunning shell]

Just checking in before going back to nap how is everything looking

[grand sun]

Got another mention by the Captain and did some formula stuff on the sheet

It totals up the selected units and gives the slowest speed

[cunning shell]

Wow

So we can get there after Storm

[grand sun]

Technically we could be the same speed as them if we loaded the LMs up

Speed 4 is with no one loaded up. We're speed 5 when we need to be, which makes us as fast as Storm

[cunning shell]

😨 you saying I’m a hindrance to the operation

Joking

Okay then so what are we looking for in the recruitment process now

[grand sun]

Honestly, I don't think having more than speed 3 actually means much on the strat layer and speed 4 vs 5 isn't enough to be bothered

That said, we do have the ability to carry y'all which unlocks logi routes using air only paths

That ability actually makes us able to support DF in Hill Mine and support groups if they land in Cell'Dar Mine

[cunning shell]

Plus if we got large supplies we could do sorties to deploy supplies in multiple locations

[grand sun]

I mean...I guess...

One of our perks is that the 212th is able to move in and out of combat zones, so we're able to make our runs without the LS cost.

In my mind, Sorties make sense for strike teams...but we're offering something different

Even with fighters, they'd really be logi escorts that would provide cover while our BG was in the combat zone

Going mobile. My last recruitment attempt was <t:1750282257:t>. I'll post another <t:1750293057:R>

[cunning shell]

I’ll make sure to post only 2 times tonight that way I don’t spam it

[grand sun]

Here’s to hoping someone who has been helping to organize Venator speaking pro-212th switching will help.

[deep narwhal]

THIS is the important part. Means you can do airstrikes anywhere by air.

[versed locust]

man, we really are just ATC with a logistical element XD

[grand sun]

lol, we’ve got ground elements too.

[versed locust]

or at least we would be if we had fighters and bombers 😅

[grand sun]

😜 not atm. 3 nose guns aren’t really what I’d call an “airstrike” unit.

[versed locust]

just drop the mechs on them for the bombs and we've got a pseudo one

[cunning shell]

Hey they are perfect for stinging the enemies

[deep narwhal]

... I forgot yall still haven't gotten your aerospace.

[deep narwhal]

There's a difference between:

Bees?-
BEES!!!-

[cunning shell]

Yeah

can I say the Republic of Dave again or is it still a sour joke

[grand sun]

XSword mentioning it in BG Venator might reach the ears of those fighters. But idk that we’ll have a mass of them anyway.

[cunning shell]

But why now do it

[cunning shell]

Dang

[grand sun]

Saw Storm and DF split easily.

[cunning shell]

Okay but

Could we take those units instead

[grand sun]

The players have to decide for themselves.

I brought up my views, XSword is now mentioning his suggestion, now it’s just up to each player to decide if they agree

[ebon river]

I have faith

[grand sun]

I really have done all I can besides just supporting conversations in their comms and talking in open comms about the benefits of 212th

[cunning shell]

For the Republic of Dave

Do we have a banner yet

[ebon river]

Do we have an insignia?

[grand sun]

No. Need a patch.

[cunning shell]

Hmm colors

[grand sun]

😅 no ideas. I’m not creative in that way

[cunning shell]

Come on Dave

[grand sun]

🤣 my mind works like a logi man would be.

[cunning shell]

So orange maybe grey or steel

[ebon river]

We could do 212 as the logo

[grand sun]

Don’t ask me design questions, but bring me your logi queries. lol

[cunning shell]

How much supply can we carry

[versed locust]

what about a cargo box with a parachute for the main image, with 212th Logistics as the title.

[grand sun]

Are LMs loaded for transport? Does Sumer have a bunker?

[cunning shell]

One is

And no

[grand sun]

Small supply only?

[cunning shell]

If you can only get them

[grand sun]

50 supply via HATs
2 supply via NEWTON
2 supply via Cleaver
54 total small supply with our 7 units.

[cunning shell]

Good to hear

[grand sun]

With TF Atlas’s support, we are equipped to be able to pull LS as well

[cunning shell]

Really

[grand sun]

HVTOLs and HATs can carry LS

We could pull 4 LS from Atlas in a single load as long as we left the LMs on the surface.

In fact, assuming we do in fact hit 15, @twin girder will be assigned with carrying the LS required for Flying Shovel to be able to construct the airfield in the first place.

[twin girder]

yee

[ebon river]

Preliminary logo suggestion

(The twos DEFINITELY need some work)

[cunning shell]

Looks great

[ebon river]

Any thoughts on improvements?

[cunning shell]

Needs color but it’s perfect

What do you think about orange for the numbers and white for the circle

Do we still not have our sign up sheet in pins

[grand sun]

Dres made this one, yeah?

[cunning shell]

Is Dresden on so we can pin it

[grand sun]

Actually…I guess he can pin regardless, it’s just the renaming that is dependent on who made it.

[cunning shell]

Or commander Jack

Trench buddy

[grand sun]

212th Logistics Branch Roster

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UVWvjkGzI9-J2y_ngahp3tF4NBlBhpk5PwpEnq4ZFb8/edit?usp=drivesdk

That’ll be the message to pin. I think I remember that Dres and Trench are open to DMs for stuff like this. I don’t remember about the others.

Neither Trench nor Dresden are on tho

[cunning shell]

Trench was on moments ago

[grand sun]

Yeah, I saw him idle and he went offline by the time I got the ping started. lol

Also, I was delayed…so open comms recruitment just went out.

I’ll do another at <t:1750309200:F> and that’ll be my last before I sign off.

[grand sun]

@violet sparrow I’m hoping I’m remembering correctly that you’re open to these kinds of pings, but would you willing to pin the message I’m replying to for us?

[cunning shell]

He’s here

[deep narwhal]

And this: #1382040199797801031 message

[grand sun]

Off and on. I perhaps should’ve just waited for morning.

[cunning shell]

Probably

But at the same time I think it’s okay

[cunning shell]

We could also ask for a another moderator to help

Twice the effect

[grand sun]

Could. lol, I’m just mod ping shy.

I know Dres and Trench have talked about people pinging them.

[cunning shell]

I know what you mean

[cunning shell]

We need this pinned

If that’s okay

[plucky river]

Bard has been okay with it too.

But we should only ping indivduals not the mod role

[cunning shell]

Got it so ping commander Jack

Dres are you okay

He’s constantly disappearing and reappearing

This is the 5th time he reappeared

[grand sun]

Dres is on mobile

[cunning shell]

Well now he is

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ I pinged, it’ll be pinned.

Meantime we just need to watch for people looking for it…tho it’s been posted here, #meta-comm , #1382045293591134218 , and is in the logi doc

[plucky river]

Any BGs that are off limits for recruiting from?

[cunning shell]

Venator and spearhead I think

Double check with Dave tho

[plucky river]

Cause if the 4 HATs from Flying Shovels planned to join us that'd be a lot

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[grand sun]

I don’t want to poach in BG chats. I mentioned 212th and its benefits in Venator and Spearhead because the’d be leaving the airfield and their fighters wouldn’t be able to rearm on the front.

I was told to stop in Venator and so I’m not mentioning it there and Spearhead…idk what they’re doing atm.

[plucky river]

I figure the HATs there might want to join us since I think they're for dropping them.
We could promise to transport them to their destination first and then haul supplies after that.

[grand sun]

Shovel and Atlas are well aware of us and our mission…but their aerospace units are also basically guaranteed landing opportunities.

[grand sun]

Which BG?

[plucky river]

Flying shovels

I haven't paid to much attention to the BGs so I don't know what their HATs are doing post deployment

[grand sun]

Shovel HATs are largely initial deployment from my understanding. Syntax and I have been talking quite a bit about the 212th and its progress.

Wanderer is actually from shovels, which is why his assignment is already set. Lol

[cunning shell]

I’m just here

[grand sun]

lol, not what I meant and you know it

[cunning shell]

I don’t have any ability to carry supplies I just guard

[grand sun]

Part of my unit recruitment is escort units.

[cunning shell]

For now

[plucky river]

Okay, I'm gonna mark that as I shouldn't advertise there

[grand sun]

Stick with open comms for now unless you see people talking about rearming being an issue for BGs or wanting more freedom to move on the battlefield from TFs.

Tomorrow may have a different set of rules of engagement, but I want to make sure that we are a solution to the problem…not the cause of complaints.

[plucky river]

Rabbit's got one HAT.
I think I'm gonna ask them if they want to sign up here too.
No idea what they're gonna be carrying for Rabbit

[grand sun]

Just be careful if you’re going after people like that.

[plucky river]

I'll send a draft msg here so before I ping them

[grand sun]

I might be overly cautious here, but it comes from a good place.

[plucky river]

All good

I'll run it by you first

[cunning shell]

Survivor of the drop site 17 massacre

[grand sun]

😅 more just making sure we don’t become a nuisance

[cunning shell]

I think that’s gonna happen regardless

[grand sun]

🤣 I mean besides those commenting about the recruitment posts in open comms

[plucky river]

Hello [Ping],
I see you're in rabbit and are probably helping with their deployment. I wanted to ask you what your plans were after deployment since you'll be following them around.
I wanted to make sure you knew about the 212th Logi that'll have lots of movement to and from the airfield to bring supplies for BGs on the front lines.
It's 100% your choice if you want to join us and either way it's great to see another HAT on the feild.

Hows that sound?

[grand sun]

Which, btw, Captain has replied to 1 yesterday and 1 today with a positive attitude.

[plucky river]

Yeah, Cap likes the BG

Even though it's pretty close to aerospace only

[cunning shell]

Huh

[grand sun]

I haven’t followed Rabbit at all. Where are they currently deploying?

[plucky river]

I think they're trying to get the cargo haulers

The Lummarian ones

Otherwise I think Cell'da Mine

[grand sun]

Yeah…but it’s logi focused and we have ground integrated even if it’s just a couple. lol, he also liked that I said we had a logi LM.

[plucky river]

Yeah, currently we're Speed 5. (Everyone can be carried via HVTOL)

And for deployment having a LM in a HAT until the airfeild is built sounds fine.

[cunning shell]

Could us LMs ride in a HVTOL instead

We can’t Paradrop

[plucky river]

For Inital Deployment one HVTOL has an LS

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[plucky river]

After that the HVTOLs should be open

[grand sun]

My primary concern with Rabbit is that, if we try for a transport (supply or unit) of theirs, I’d want the 212th to be able to support them so their plans weren’t disrupted.

If we transport their unit, we all have to go where they wanted to go.

[cunning shell]

What is rabbits plans

[plucky river]

They've only got 1. So I don't think it's gonna break anything.
It's not like Flying shovels that has enough to transport themselves

But I won't send the ping if you don't think I should. It's your BG and I agree with us not wanting to annoy people too much

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ use best judgment, and if you do ping people, don’t press if they pushback. I’m not gonna tell y’all what to do, that’s not my place.

[cunning shell]

Huh but what is your advice on the matter

[grand sun]

I had been looking for BGs planning to go to and through Crossroads because that meant that our path and theirs would be the same until the point that we got to shine and start with the supply runs.

[plucky river]

I'm just gonna ping once and let them make their desicion. Either way I'll thank them for thier time

[grand sun]

Your post doesn’t come across pushy. So I think your wording was in good taste. More of a “what’s your plans for the campaign” than “you should switch”

[grand sun]

Yeah, yeah

[plucky river]

I'm gonna send it in meta

[cunning shell]

It’s not a problem if someone else says it’s advice

Anyway I’m gonna be posting recruiting ads at 1:30 and 4:30 last one at 6:30

[grand sun]

Your 1:30 will be closely following my last post, so just judge the chat flow with that one.

[cunning shell]

Nah

[plucky river]

Time doesn't matter as much as how far up the chat is

[cunning shell]

We just need something to shock and awe

[cunning shell]

Hmm

I like the right one

Anyone else

[ebon river]

...I just realized that a 2 backwards is a 5

[hasty garden]

I like both 👍

[cunning shell]

It’s okay but dang you work fast

[plucky river]

Personally I like the Orange circle better

Also it looks like a trident

[grand sun]

That’s the truth btw.

[cunning shell]

Don’t give up team there’s still hope

[grand sun]

When I TCO, I take responsibility for those on the roster. Last campaign I was a TCO for one of the hardest hit groups and for a group that almost missed the evac window and both times I actually irl felt bad about letting down or almost letting down my people.

[grand sun]

Not giving up, but unlike most of the current roster, they don’t have a fallback.

[cunning shell]

True I understand

[grand sun]

I really was planning to chat with you @hasty garden and try to make sure you have a place somewhere that sounded good to you in case we weren’t able to make 15 in time.

If you’re interested in that, they’re good people. 😜 for backups anyway

[cunning shell]

XD

[grand sun]

And there’s the slew. Guess I didn’t have to be so worried about you having a fallback after all. Lol

[ebon river]

Well, I learned something about Inkscape that invalidated all of my previous work

I'll redo the logo tomorrow

[cunning shell]

What happened

[ebon river]

I just learned a way to resolve an annoying issue with positioning

But doing so means EVERYTHING is now out of position by a few tenths of a millimeter

[cunning shell]

Any ideas on how we can increase our chances of getting people

[grand sun]

“tenths of a millimeter”?!? Dang!! I’m definitely not cut out for that level of detail. lol

Glad you found out something new tho

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ I’m using what I know. Everyone is free to choose, not everyone is very active after joining a BG until the campaign actually starts, and this campaign is challenging the way logi and fighters have been handled in the past.

So I stay as present as I can in open comms and I watch BG comms to support any convo that suggests people might be warming up to the idea.

[sleek cape]

Could try the old classics. "Join the air force, see the world"

[deep narwhal]

Be more aggressive about recruiting, asking TCOs if they'd be willing to donate capability.

throws self out of window

(No, Storm is at the perfect size right now, we can't donate a VTOL. Sorry.)

[grand sun]

😜 say…what group are you with? Do you like to Move It? Would you like to join the 212th and move just about anything we can get our hands on?

[sleek cape]

😆 Pathfinder. I'm afraid I'm quite fond of our commander, but otherwise I'd definitely consider it

[grand sun]

Only reason I’d talk to a TCO like that is if I was suggesting they split their group with me taking the logi part and promising to support. And that’s really just cause they have the weight in the group to make suggestions like that. Otherwise I’m talking to the units directly.

[plucky river]

I’m sure Southpaw wouldn’t mind if you left

We can’t beat the mutimal promise though

[sleek cape]

Are... are you saying they don't want me? 🥺

[grand sun]

I figured if you were talking in here but not joining you were prolly well anchored in their current BG. But had to send the message anyway

[sleek cape]

Southpaw do you want me?

[plucky river]

I’m sure Southpaw does.

[sleek cape]

Nah, I get it

However I do like jokes

[grand sun]

Truth be told, I think VTOLs are actually the best suited aerospace units to be attached to a non-logi BG

[plucky river]

That is very true

[grand sun]

Supply and troop movement and a nose gun that doesn’t need to rearm

[sleek cape]

Not that there's a whole lot of choice. But it's hard to beat 2 supply and a squad of infantry

[deep narwhal]

The complaints against STORM about "VTOL OP, pls nerf" despite us having dinky d2 toothpicks is quite high.

[plucky river]

Them and Logi trucks should stay attached to local groups

[grand sun]

😜 that’s just people who are jealous at how many VTOLs joined Storm. lol

[plucky river]

That d2 that can’t flank is useless against every unit when it uses any defense. But it does chip infantry and scares Logi since you’re one more attack that can hit us

[grand sun]

That said, I like having them here. (You see this Lozzle? I like having VTOLs/you in 212th)

[plucky river]

I’m gonna go to bed.
I hope recruiting goes well.

[grand sun]

But VTOLs aren’t my target when I’m trying to get people to swap from their current group to join us.

[plucky river]

And I’d feel really bad if you hit exactly 15. Since I’ll be sticking with Victorum.

You’re welcome to keep my name for recruiting if you need.

[grand sun]

😜 I’ve got time to win you over too. Lol

(But yes please, keep your name on there till last minute)

[sleek cape]

I could definitely see a future with truck-based logi bgs, but it's at the end of the transition to independent specialized corps where we have at least 1 dedicated logi group for every 2 combat bgs

[grand sun]

Next campaign I’ll start recruiting at the very beginning. I fully suspect this campaign will show people the power of a logi group, if not because of supply flow than fighter/bomber rearming.

And that lesson is something I think will be learned regardless of if 212th makes the cut

[sleek cape]

If (when) things get hairy I suspect Pathfinder is going to spend some time acting as logi support ourselves. Slow logi support, but we've got the supply capacity to do it and you can only be in a single place at once

[onyx bone]

Hello 212! How's recruiting going?

[grand sun]

Eh about as slow as you’d expect a late game recruitment.

[ebon river]

I assume the good Captain doesn’t want to do flexible groups like we were planning for C3?

[grand sun]

Captain keeps validating the purpose of the 212th, and the “quartermaster” of Venator is suggesting the logi units and fighters join the 212th since they’ve seen other BGs split like that. So we’ll see.

Venator’s Logi truck wants to stay, and one of their fighters said they wanted to stay with the HATs. Venator has 5 full HATs, 1 Heavy Gunship, and 3 fighters. So if they were to join, we’d meet the requirements.

[grand sun]

Nope. BGs/TFs are locked once it starts.

[ebon river]

Makes organizational sense

[onyx bone]

How far are you? I know we definitely would like a dedicated Logi BG like yourselves to help get the LS around.

[ebon river]

But we’re gonna end up with fifteen empty HATs all dressed up and nowhere to go come round three

It’d be real nice if we could scoop them up and make our battlegroup out of them

[grand sun]

8-9 more depending on if Cobalt stays TF1 or switches.

If all Venators HATs and Fighters switched, that’d be 9 transfers.

[grand sun]

Them and the BG fighters and bombers (if any bombers went BG).

[grand sun]

And we’d love to work with you and Flying Shovels. Help reduce the load y’all will be facing.

[onyx bone]

Hmm, I'll keep an eye out for you. Might ask a logi I know if they're willing to join.

[grand sun]

Appreciate you trying to help regardless.

[cunning shell]

Hmmm

I think we got this

[grand sun]

Ok. Signing off for sleep. My last recruitment message in open comms was <t:1750311112:R>.

[oblique pecan]

...am I hearing a spiritual successor ? 👀

(probably not)

[cunning shell]

Hopefully not

How are you French

[oblique pecan]

Good.

[cunning shell]

Hmmm what do we do

[cunning shell]

I posted the last time our recruiting ad

[rose knot]

Hopefully the weekend brings fresh recruits.

[cunning shell]

I hope so

[oblique pecan]

Hopes.

[cunning shell]

Want s’mores

[oblique pecan]

I'm good.

[cunning shell]

French : D you said yes

[oblique pecan]

no, I said I'm good

I'm not hungry I don't want s'mores x)

[cunning shell]

What’s wrong french it’s only a treat

[rose knot]

mmm yes, aggressive s'more advertisement

[oblique pecan]

aggressive s'more campaign

[cunning shell]

aggressive recruitment campaign

I’m logging off I posted the recruiting sheet 4 times

Someone else can post it before Dave gets back

[grand sun]

Next ad <t:1750348800:R>

I'm not taking it too seriously...nope...casually posting for sure!

[oblique pecan]

...we got a gambling tool in Iron Hammer if you want in the meantime 🤣

[grand sun]

Doing client work, appreciate the offer tho

[grand sun]

Doing a self imposed 2hr cooldown on the ads to make sure I'm not spamming it.

[versed locust]

Gambling you say?

[oblique pecan]

ye. :)

[grand sun]

Something on the sheets somehow triggered "We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service." I will try to rebuild at least something when I get back to the computer in a little under an hour

[oblique pecan]

Still good for me.

[grand sun]

Ok, then I’ll try to access it again after lunch.

[twin girder]

i also still have access

[grand sun]

CrazyAxx said the same. Must’ve just been a combo of that STC email getting flagged as suspicious and a cranky reload

I did go ahead and make a copy saved on my main Google and stripped it of the formulas…just in case it has issues again.

[oblique pecan]

Alright, I just forked an engi to Phalanx as they needed one (and got an mbt in the process but shhhh don't tell anyone), the ping was also thrown to our VTOLs to see if they are willing to switch to the 212th, but so far no answer.

[grand sun]

No worries! But if they do, I ask you save their spot as a fallback

[oblique pecan]

Yeah, that's the issue you see xD

Because while I do agree with that

If we keep their spot
And we're at 20, bang on for atlas transport
and they come back because 212th logi isn't formed
And now we're at 22
Atlas transport is cancelled nearly at the last minute

So... I mentionned that problem aswell, threw a ping, I'll see what they think and see what we do.

While I'm here, fucking beats me that I was able to fork one of our only 2 engis (with consent) to Phalanx but Flying Shovels with their 9 engineers didn't wanna do a THING for them.

Gonna fokken order 17 more toolboxes of Hammers grmblgrmblgrbml

(i'll get over it eventually)

[grand sun]

Ah, lol…so you’re semi-hoping to go down a player. We’ll take anyone that fits our mission, but we’re late enough in the game that I’m also very pro-fallback. Being a VTOL, they’d find a home easy…but I’d hate for them to leave y’all for a chance at 212th and then not be able to rejoin if that’s where they preferred.

You said you laid it out to them tho, so I trust you’ll make sure they understand the risks.

[oblique pecan]

Well, we're currently at 19, and our ODT has said that "if we're at 21 for atlas transport, I can join atlas and make it 20"

It's a bit of a tangled mess you see ? xD

[oblique pecan]

Mm, always

[grand sun]

For sure. 😜 a common tangle and one 212th could help solve for many…if they were willing.

[oblique pecan]

#1383066706724913293 message

I wanna give some VTOLs (with consent) to 212th Logi, and I wanna give an engi (with consent) to Phalanx, so one can form their battlegroup and the other can, actually survive a little bit longer, especially considering the amount of mechanized they have.

Thing is, I've no idea for the 212th Logi if it'll be formed, and if it isn't at the last moment and we recruit more and our VTOLs come back because 212th logi wasn't able to form, we're fcked for atlas transport

[...]

[Ping of our engis & VTOLs]
Worthy of a ping since you guys are directly concerned by this 👀
If you guys have any opinions about this. Note I won't force anyone to switch or join anything else, everything needs consent, I just wish to contribute to other BGs who need units and can't find them because I'm a kind guy.

[oblique pecan]

That would be adelbert callsign ADE

[grand sun]

Stock VTOL?

@safe eagle , Thank you for your interest/willingness! You are currently the 8th in our roster and the second VTOL.
I'll reach out again if we are 1 off from becoming official.

As part of our mission, we do track were everyone had signed up for originally. This is both because it generally means that's their fallback, but also because my hope is for the 212th to support those BG/TFs especially.

[oblique pecan]

Ay, as he said only if it makes it 15 😅

But yes, VTOL, stock.

I also salute your interest in switching over if it can make 212th a reality Adelbert, thanks to you

[grand sun]

😂 I saw that and then didn't see him on your list so I thought you had removed them already

I see now, 13 on your roster...

I'll remove from mine. lol

[oblique pecan]

Yes, respect his wishes please 🤣

[grand sun]

😎 nailed it...

😅 gah! I swear I really did check your sheet and missed it

It did help me see that I had one of my formulas working properly tho. lol

[grand sun]

Last recruitment post was <t:1750370400:R>.
I'll make a post around <t:1750381200:f>, <t:1750388400:f>, and <t:1750395600:f>.

That said, I'm going mobile. Ping me if you need me or if I need to see something

Welcome Dres! It's great to have you on the team!

(I'm working on breaking the ping shy habit...didn't break the habit in this post)

[oblique pecan]

[ebon river]

Darn, we’re still at 8?

[grand sun]

We’re up to 8 and Dres pinned our recruitment message.

[ebon river]

Has the Venator breakup resolved?

[grand sun]

No progress on gaining their logi and/or fighters yet.

[plucky river]

We could ask DF?

[ebon river]

Do we have a party line on seeking recruits directly in other battlegroups’ channels?

[oblique pecan]

Wait they're breaking up too ?

Jesus, divorces left and right !

Will someone think of the kids ?

[ebon river]

Maybe I was wrong about that? You’d probably be more hip to events than I

I can barely keep up with the main comm channel on a slow day, let alone at full op chat

[hidden scaffold]

DF already split into logi and combat. Logi barely made the cut with 15 units

[plucky river]

They did

Cool

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah Crazy started the discussion very early before the 212th was even proposed

[ebon river]

So does everyone else just have their own endemic logi that they don’t want to give up?

[plucky river]

We're mostly looking at HATs, fighters and bombers

[oblique pecan]

Ping shot in Iron Hammer for the VTOLs today, won't do more.

[oblique pecan]

Aaaand we got none of that 😅

[plucky river]

Yeah

If we took their HATs we could do a run to drop supplies every where. But we'd need 2 groups like this.

[ebon river]

Ah, they’re probably looking for endemic drop capacity?

[plucky river]

I think we've promised to drop 1 BG already but adding another stop isn't that hard. HATs are FAST

[ebon river]

Maybe we could ask for other groups’ HATs

[plucky river]

That's kinda what has been happening

[ebon river]

We handle the drops and then give them supply work afterwards

[plucky river]

Atlas is in a good position

DF has HATs and Fighters that would want to go back and forth with us

If we got venorator too then we could do a run refilling all of the Logi trucks and only burn 1 LS every few rounds

[cunning shell]

I’ve returned

And oh my Dresden is joining us

How did you manage that

[grand sun]

Not asking for more. Haha

[oblique pecan]

Bribes.

[grand sun]

No poaching within other BG comms. Bad taste

[oblique pecan]

Uh no sorry, being probably one of the best long-term battlegroup idea I'd say.

[grand sun]

He liked what we’re going for and hadn’t signed up yet.

[cunning shell]

Huh definitely

[grand sun]

212th now has it’s first fighter.

[cunning shell]

Woah yea

[cunning shell]

Funny thing

Dresden you have been a
Mech pilot
Crew of a orbital
Commander of a mission
Now a fighter pilot

Ever think about just relaxing for once

[deep narwhal]

eyes the BG number

Well, I guess we have two unlucky 13s!

[cunning shell]

Huh

We’re extra lucky tho

[grand sun]

It’s ok for me to still post the recruitment ad even though it’s pinned…right?

[cunning shell]

I would

Because we still need the 7 more people

[grand sun]

😜 channel may say 13, but we all know we’re really the 212th

[cunning shell]

If someone from the higher ups tells us to stop we will be honestly I keep posting it

Or type a message to make people look at it

[grand sun]

Good enough for me. lol, I’ll stick with my originally planned schedule.

[cunning shell]

By the way I think there envious at us for taking 13

[grand sun]

“Check the pins” totally includes us now tho. Haha

[cunning shell]

Yooooo

[grand sun]

Eh, they asked if I was ok if they were BG 13 instead.

[cunning shell]

No this is our number to have

[grand sun]

Told em I really didn’t care as long as we kept this channel

[cunning shell]

XD and now you gone and mess with there TCO

By the way Ultra was asking if we don’t make it if we go to there’s

[grand sun]

lol, we’re the 212th Logistical Branch. Idk what BG designation we have.

[cunning shell]

Logi comms

[grand sun]

What comms??

[cunning shell]

Ultra was asking

[grand sun]

Anyway, Atlas asked too

[cunning shell]

Really

[grand sun]

Plan is largely those who came from another group will go back if we fail.

[cunning shell]

We won’t fail we have time

[grand sun]

😜 but you know I like having backup plans. Haha

I’ll post the ad in 25min

[cunning shell]

Make sure to show our pin message

[grand sun]

Haha, if they see my message than they don’t need to see it’s also pinned.

[cunning shell]

Hopefully

[grand sun]

😜 I mean, being pinned solo is mainly just because the other BGs/TFs have hit minimum.

[cunning shell]

I feel like people are nervous about joining us

Because we’re so close

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ can’t do anything more about that than my statement about putting their name down on ours without leaving their original until we hit 15

[cunning shell]

Dresden needs a Battle group

[grand sun]

lol, I thought about adding “Don’t make Dresden fly alone” to the top but I didn’t want to give the wrong impression

We’ve got days left and other splits have happened and are being learned about. Just gotta keep getting out there.

[cunning shell]

Yup

I’m really trying not to say anything in Venator because I already feel like there not happy with us

[grand sun]

There’s several groups looking out for us as well because they want to be able to work with a logi BG too, so we’re definitely not alone in this recruiting either.

[grand sun]

You’ve seen how I’ve been addressing it, right?

[cunning shell]

But it be nice if they gave us some people

[cunning shell]

Kinda

But you know I’m not good with words

[grand sun]

I supported XSword’s endorsement and then I brought it back up when someone asked if they missed anything.

Key is to not force it, not openly be poaching, and not treat it like the TCOs should send units over.

What’s needed is for players themselves to see our posts and decide to join on their own.

[cunning shell]

Okay then 📝

[grand sun]

😜 and try not to stir up trouble either.

[cunning shell]

What noo i would never do that

Especially since I feel like pirate is thinking I’m not one of them

But it’s okay

Wanna hear a bet

I’m willing to bet the Heavy missiles are coming from the Haydar village

[grand sun]

That’d mean they have massive range

[cunning shell]

Mhm

Permission to say one more thing

Do you think the robot head on titan is in anyway related to the bots right now

[grand sun]

I think it was related to the bots. 💯

[cunning shell]

He skip my question

😂

[plucky river]

Eh, He's been ignoring lore stuff

[cunning shell]

Can’t blame him

We’re at what 489+ players now

[plucky river]

Lets hit 500

We can do it

[cunning shell]

I feel like we have

So what’s the plan now Dave

Just hope

[grand sun]

Keep on keeping on.

Part of this challenge is on me for not connecting the dots of how useful this would be sooner. But I don’t want to overstep and mess with other’s fun to try to make up for it and I’m not gonna try to force my opinions on others either.

[ebon river]

What happened to the original logi battlegroup?

[cunning shell]

I don’t know

[onyx bone]

There is a logi truck in Spearhead they might be able to do without (last I saw that is). You could ask if it gets desperate.

[cunning shell]

We are desperate

[onyx bone]

Then you might want to ask.

[cunning shell]

You see this

[grand sun]

I did talk to Spearhead about their fighters initially, asking what their plans were for rearming.

[deep narwhal]

This is the first logi BG.

[grand sun]

Didn’t target the logi truck tho.

[cunning shell]

Ooooo

[grand sun]

It never took off. I asked about it cause I have saved the Logi Corps sheet on my drive early on. Person I asked said it wasn’t advertised and lacked much of a mission statement.

[cunning shell]

Thanks again for your help and support

[onyx bone]

No problem, Logi looks out for Logi. Our job is way easier if we have you guys on the ground

[grand sun]

I’ll look over their comms in the morning and see what they’ve got running. I think they were considering breaking from the original plan and using the ore haulers to deploy straight to Cell’dar Mines.

If I do contact them, I’ll approach more from a “how can the 212th benefit you” like with the fighters being able to rearm.

[onyx bone]

I don't remember their numbers but I think they have enough IFVs and LVs, plus a HAT to move their infantry around. But they may prefer to keep them.

[onyx bone]

Yeah, bring up that they're not really losing the truck but giving the truck to actually supply them (and the rest of 212th) if they need it.

[grand sun]

😜 they always prefer to keep them. It’s the old mindset.

[grand sun]

That’s part of where my homework tomorrow comes in. If the 212th can’t really fill the hole it’d be creating, then I’m not gonna try to entice em.

Fighters should be easy sells, HATs should go with the fighters, logi trucks and VTOLs are harder.

lol, at least that’s what I thought would be the case

[cunning shell]

I’ll keep reading the map

[onyx bone]

Yeah, it seems their loyalty to the BG they already signed up. Hard to blame them. I think a lot of people feel invested in their groups by now.

[plucky river]

Venerator HATs are a really good deal but it’s their choice and they think we’ve been pushy in their chat.

Though I’m tempted to watch it for when things come up.

[cunning shell]

Yeah

[grand sun]

Yeah, I found the nerve there and haven’t pushed since apologizing. 😜 even if I still really think their HATs and Fighters would be better off here and neither unit types actually participated in asking me to stop.

[plucky river]

Yeah. DF has some that I’d like to chat with. But they just formed a Logi group with only 15 so I don’t think it’s in good taste.
Also if a second Logi group is helping we’d have less work

[grand sun]

No worries! 😉 I’ve been watching for opportunities to support ideas that point our way. XSword did endorse, tho their a HAT and haven’t switched.

A Fighter Pilot commented to XSword saying they wanted to stay with the HATs basically. And their logi truck wants to stay Venator.

[deep narwhal]

In a pinch, "Tempest" can flex as a Logi group, but we are way better off being used for strategic repositioning.

[grand sun]

Originally I worried about our ability to reach up there to support without pulling us out of position, but current make up has us able to assist basically anywhere on planet from Crossroads.

[plucky river]

We can be there and back crazy fast

All that matters is how entering a tactical map works

[grand sun]

Rabbit said similar I think. There are several groups that can provide assistance when needed…even logistically.

[violet sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[plucky river]

Yeah. The truck should stay local. It’s great for getting paradrops too and holding supplies while we’re busy somewhere else. But XSword kinda needs to move or vote on moving inorder for anyone to join us

In any case I’m logging off for the night. You’re gonna try for another day or two still?

[grand sun]

I did actually post that I agreed about the truck and even VTOLs staying with ground assault BGs.

[cunning shell]

Dresden we need to find you a battle group

So that way you don’t miss out

[grand sun]

Night, and yessir! Gonna keep trying till we hit 15 or I’m told to quit. Haha

[plucky river]

Good luck

[grand sun]

Dres is choosing to cross that bridge if/when it comes…and as a fighter, I don’t think he’ll have an issue finding one. 😅 and that’s assuming he doesn’t end up helping Captain with GMing.

[cunning shell]

Nooo we can’t let them take our friend in arms

[grand sun]

🙂 Dres is on our roster, we just need to enjoy that and work on finding more.

[cunning shell]

True thanks dres for supporting our project and effort

I’m guessing you’re going to bed

[grand sun]

Me? I’m in bed, but got an hour or so until I normally actually put the phone down.

[deep narwhal]

🗞️

Go to sleep.

[cunning shell]

You go to sleep

[deep narwhal]

Different timezone, remember?

It's not even 2200hrs yet here.

[cunning shell]

It’s 00:00 here

[grand sun]

23:00

lol, I’m a night owl. Give it another hour and my mind will give in. Haha

[cunning shell]

I’m a night walker I don’t sleep

😶‍🌫️

[grand sun]

I’m chatting in Venator comms with some people. I replied, didn’t initiate…hoping it’ll lead somewhere but I’m being cautious since that BG has already hit me with a “no soliciting” notice.

[deep narwhal]

I mean, I could probably help with the soliciting?

They expect me to poach VTOLs anyways.

[cunning shell]

😮 I knew it

[grand sun]

Haha, defeats the purpose

This wasn’t just me attempting something.

[cunning shell]

I figured

He said something In Venator

Look

[grand sun]

Venator comms has a fraction of the BG actually talking.

[cunning shell]

Yeah I wonder what’s up with that

[grand sun]

And I’ve checked the roster. Most of the people talking aren’t HATs or Fighters.

[grand sun]

Think about it…

[cunning shell]

They are waiting

[grand sun]

You get the ping, you activate, you join a BG, maybe you see they have a plan early, you stop paying attention because there’s time for the next campaign.

[cunning shell]

Yeah you could also dm them

[grand sun]

Or there’s so many messages that you just see you don’t have pings and don’t scroll up to see what you missed.

[grand sun]

No…I’d ping them in open comms before I’d DM them. I still remember when outside comms were against the rules.

[cunning shell]

They were

Huh I never knew that

[grand sun]

C2

[cunning shell]

So me dm you during C3 spook you

[grand sun]

In order to combat factions, they heavily discouraged DMs and starting of other discord servers. It was strong enough that they’d disband groups that were showing signs.

[cunning shell]

Ah I see but it’ll be fine

It’s really nice people are willing to help us

[grand sun]

I did look them up. They’re Infantry for Venator.

[cunning shell]

Definitely not weird thing to do

[cunning shell]

Hmm 🤔

[cunning shell]

Nerys village
Crossroads
Haydar village
Prime targets for airfields

[hidden scaffold]

To build an AF?

[cunning shell]

Mhm

Those 3 are prime targets

Nerys village especially

[cunning shell]

Why do you ask

[hidden scaffold]

Just not sure what you mean by prime targets for airfields

[cunning shell]

Like prime areas of putting them down

If we’re constantly moving around it would be best to make pit stops for everyone to use

[hidden scaffold]

Well that would be Cross Roads then

[cunning shell]

Ping me if you need me okay

More people Venator are talking again

[chilly iris]

Congrats, you guys have one more HAT now

[grand sun]

You lookin to join the 212th?

[chilly iris]

Yup

[hasty garden]

Welcome aboard @chilly iris

[grand sun]

Welcome to the 212th!

For the most part, I don’t think you’ll see a difference since we’ll be servicing BG Venator and others. We’ll just not be locked to them by BG Coherency, allowing for supply runs and the ability to not be over hostile skies unarmed than we have to.

[chilly iris]

Sounds good, that’s exactly what I wanted to do this campaign

[plucky river]

Maybe let venator know that you're planning on joining us. Just so they aren't suprised if we get 15

[grand sun]

That mixed with XSword's endorsement should be enough of a heads up.

[oblique pecan]

AutoDave, news

Dunno if you've seen lads so...

[grand sun]

lol, I was about to forward that here myself

[chilly iris]

Just pinged them too

Xsword that is

Sorry for all the questions but what speed is this BG for the sake of arrival time?

[grand sun]

Deployment, we'd likely be with the rest of the BGs. We are logi, so it doesn't really make sense for us to arrive before Atlas and the Flying Shovels...but it's also safer if we come in after the first/second wave of orbitals.

After deployment, we have speed 4 if the LMs are on the ground and speed 5 if they're loaded for transport.

[plucky river]

We could self deploy whenever. It's just pointless before Victorum unless we know everything is safe.

[chilly iris]

Roger that

[plucky river]

So earliest with Atlas.
Latest we're in the cargo haulers and need to wait for starport

[grand sun]

🤷‍♂️ If we hit official, we could poll it...but that's the timeline that makes the most sense to me.

[grand sun]

Mini-ad. Cooldown is still ticking for the big one. lol

[cunning shell]

Hang in there team we’re so close

I’m going sleep so good night or morning

[grand sun]

Open to anyone, but obviously specifically after the bolded types.

[oblique pecan]

Scratches head, depending on what Volverbot plays and if he really wants to join Iron Hammer or not, I might get you guys a bomber

I'm not gonna force him to play Bomber
Nor force him to join you guys, if he really wants to be in Iron Hammer then he'll be in Iron Hammer.

But uh, a heads-up, I guess.

[grand sun]

You know how I roll. I don't want him to be pressured either...but I'd happily welcome a bomber and could offer BG bombing runs and rearms

[oblique pecan]

Yep, I'm aware

You roll very nicely on your left side.

Beware not to fall when you roll on the right.

[grand sun]

Here's your official welcome the the 212th @cursive rapids!

^ this would be the "We've got a HAT that is intending to join after backpay"

[plucky river]

5 more people in 30 hours

We can do it

[cursive rapids]

Yis

Got 2 req to spend

Not quite enough to get the rugged transport sadly

[plucky river]

Nothing you'd want to buy for a HAT with that

Unless you joined a TF

[cursive rapids]

Yea the 1 req upgrades didn't make much sense to me

[plucky river]

They let you bring equipment onto a orbital ship

I'm using them rn

[grand sun]

You eying the Rugged Transport once you got the req for it?

[cursive rapids]

Yea

[plucky river]

It looks cool but the 2 missing cargo slots just hurt

At that point I'd rather play a HET

[grand sun]

Nice! I know a lot of people that'll be happy to see that next campaign if you continue that path.

[cursive rapids]

Yea but having a guy thats willing to say "fuck it we ball" for the boys in the trenches

Seems like a good guy to have haha

I was looking to save for an expeditionary orbital that specializes in landing large amounts of shit. Like an acclimator

But we'll see who has what by then. That's a ways from now

[grand sun]

This campaign is paying a lot too, so it's definitely worth keeping an open mind for upgrades after the pay hits

(I say and have basically already spent the req in my head)

[plucky river]

My plan is HET + SFT

Unless HATs get some cool new upgrades

[cursive rapids]

Alright Condor Express is active

What command joins a BG again?

[oblique pecan]

AYYYYYYY ME TOOOOOOOOOO

We might be Rugged transport buddies next campaign then 👀

(but probably wont be in the same bg/tf lol)

[grand sun]

BGs are just the sheets. I saw you were Active and joined the campaign

unit activation and campaign joined are the only steps needed with the bot

[cursive rapids]

Dooe

Dope*

[cursive rapids]

Hahaha its always best to ride the lightning with a friend

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-fury-road-witness-gif-24567135

[grand sun]

@hidden scaffold and @near thicket , moving the chat here to keep the Tac-Com open since there's questions being asked toward Captain.

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah right

I was a bit baffled that we really have that kind of capacity

[grand sun]

Current numbers (including a potential VTOL transfer from Hammer), 212th could transport 6 of Redwall's vehicles (2 per HAT with our LMs taking up one of the HAT's vehicle slots) and 35FS of their boots if I'm mathing correctly. That's leaving the HVTOLs to out of the numbers.

[plucky river]

Thos are the numbers I got from copying the rosters

[grand sun]

(continuation of my last message)
That'd leave Redwall with 2 vehicles and 109FS that'd still need a ride if my maths are correct.

[hidden scaffold]

Ok I take a look in detail later

I need to go for today

[grand sun]

I knew you had posted that, but I was far enough down my line I had to finish it. lol

[near thicket]

Basic calcs

We can get all the foot-mobiles in the first wave

Plus some extra

[cursive rapids]

HATs needed is how many were short?

Im surprised there are so few VTOLs

[grand sun]

Storm has the majority of those. QRF airborne was a potent recruitment

[plucky river]

You’re missing all of the vehicles

We need to be able to deploy everyone at once

[plucky river]

Yes

[chilly iris]

I’d love some actual HAT upgrades and not side grades like we have now

[grand sun]

Waves only work if there's a TF with you that can store everyone while they wait

[grand sun]

That's been a common wish.

[sweet bramble]

Hey! We don't have the majority anymore. Just the plurality

[plucky river]

Really there must be a lot more VTOLs

[grand sun]

I thought y'all were the heaviest concentration of them. Not necessarily over half of all VTOLs, but I thought you had more than other single BG. (Not complaining either. I think y'all's QRF ability is critical)

[sweet bramble]

-Fun facts-
BG/TF; VTOLs (HVTOLS)
Ultra; 1
Spear; 1
Rabbit; 1
Shovels; 1 (1)
Atlas; 2
Pathfinders; 3
Hammer; 3 (1)
Venator; 3 (2)
Dwarves; 5

and...

The Storm Blessed; 17 (2) [and 1 Spec Ops VTOL]

[grand sun]

😜 That's about what I expected

[near thicket]

Based on capacity, it would be 2 waves to get everyone in

Which is still fast

[plucky river]

We can’t do 2 waves

We need to do everyone at once because of coherency rules

[grand sun]

It's less coherency and more that units have to come from somewhere. A TF doesn't have to deploy the BG all at once...but it has to be able to hold them. Waves can still be a thing (High orbit is the same strategic point as ground), but only if there's an actual BG storage you're pulling from

[near thicket]

And I'm pretty sure we're all MB

[versed locust]

4 more! Almost there!

[grand sun]

We can pull this off...not out yet

[cunning shell]

I’m awake

How’s it looking

[grand sun]

4-5 more and we're official.

[cunning shell]

Copy

[grand sun]

Stepped up my ad schedule and am now running 2 versions with offset 2hr cooldowns

We've got lots of support, just gotta get our numbers up to make the cut so we can help them like they're hoping. lol

[cunning shell]

Aye aye boss

We can’t let there hopes in us go to waste

[hardy owl]

@grand sun looking for an MBT? looks like the BG has turned out to be more of an air-focused thing; not sure if you still want some ground forces here.

[grand sun]

I'm open to whoever wants to join. We do have a couple LMs, so you wouldn't be alone on the ground...but be warned, due to our logistical nature combat might be more limited for our BG than Venator.

[deep narwhal]

Higher survival rates!

[cunning shell]

Unlikely

[grand sun]

Well and we will be going into combat areas, so it's not like we'll be passive

I just want to make sure I'm representing this BG correctly. I suspect we'll be fighting to Crossroads no matter what. lol

And after that, I suspect we'll be moving in/out of crossroads to the surrounding strategic points.

[plucky river]

If you’re okay mostly being in a HVTOL we can probably take you

[grand sun]

Speed 2 is fast enough to keep up with most of the movements I'm expecting.

[plucky river]

The thing is more we want aerospace movement

Doesn’t really matter how fast

Being able to go on the dotted lines helps

[grand sun]

ah, yeah. For those supply runs the LMs and MBT would be loaded up.

I'm expecting most of our runs to be via ground links tho

[hardy owl]

im just wondering if theres any point of being in here as an MBT other than acting as filler to reach the 15 unit threshold? i dont see any logis, so nothing really for me to defend

although if the enemy has ODTs maybe we could also act as backline defense? i guess we just really dont know enough

[grand sun]

Intel is super limited...but we do know they have ODTs

[hardy owl]

i guess i'll check back tomorrow. if you need me to fill a spot let me know.

[grand sun]

I will say, a MBT would give AP fire support to the LMs and could help defend Shovels who has limited AP and Redwall if they remain in Crossroads. We'll be supporting those BGs as well, so we could help defend them if needed.

[plucky river]

You could probably find a battlegroup that’ll be better for an MBT.
But we’d love to have you it just probably won’t be fun