#Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms
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I'd ping one for them to explain it to you, but both are (probably) asleep.
Fucking timezones.
from you ? xD
Not intentionally 😭
Hence the confusion lol
I mean yeah, where do you think the extra order of 24 toolboxes came from
Also you guys owe like half a million in credit card debt
Something about 50000 cigarettes being put on the BG card
Don’t worry boss, I’ve got a fool proof solution
We open more credit cards to pay off the previous ones!
It’s like infinite money!
We are literally splitting STORM to get more flexibility - I think the Logi BG will help.
(Mostly because new coherency rules stop you from sending just 1 person back to grab supplies - you want supplies, the entire BG needs to leave the strategic point.)
Wish you could just pop 1 person back to get supplies, but RAW, you need to send an entire BG - Logi BG is specifically to allow them to rotate through different battlefields.
Quaternary.
Ahhhhhh that’s what it was! Many thanks friend!
Ay thanks for making a better argument for 'em then I can.
Quartermary me ? 👉 👈 🥺
... what are you offering?
Y'all getting an HVTOL?
We have an HVTOL, yes.
Name's Hunter. Very nice fellow that "stole" my tank in C3 :D
Hell yea. Won't need to land the ship to deploy your MBC. We've got room for them to dock as needed too.
MBC?
MBT* sorry, just woke up
it's alright
MBC is the orbital version. Same cannon, just in space.
And NBC is a news broadcasting network XD
Ah, okay xD
I find it funny that a VTOL can only hold 6 people not counting pilots.
That’s fair. We need to get R&R to work on increasing VTOL size up. I doubt their is going to be 1 transport per infantry squad and maybe it would encourage more VTOL players. Also having a logi BG and not using it to give logi to other BG is funny.
R&R ?
OH research and development
Man, there's so many acronyms it's hard to keep track tbh 🤣
(R&D)*
That'd be nice to have more vtol transport tho yeah.
Like sacrificing supply for infantry, something amongst thoses lines as an upgrade maybe.
And the goal of the logi BG is to have more agency and freedom and not be confined to one singular BG 👀
Honestly an upgrade that expands carry capacity at the expense of supply and a bit of speed would be pretty useful and balanced imo
I could imagine dropping 1 armor for the ability to carry 2 squads
either a VTOL retrofit, or a HAT upgrade
Though ig at that point we’re kinda encroaching into the role HATs are meant to play idk
Due to this you shall be thrown to the frontline in first, glory to Iron Hammer 
I'm happy with my BG (Dwarf Fortress) and am I one of the shiny ones 👉 👈 🥺
But the only problem with that is realistically you are creating a BG for logi to then assign those logi to other BG’s which is basically having logi in those BG’s with extra steps. The only reason why having a logi BG would be better is if you need to call back a lot of LOGI at once and then use it for something together but I don’t know how often that happens.
The VTOL upgrade idea is cool though.
13 PAI... Hmmm... Maybe a tad shiny, but not as much as ODT or HVTOL 👀
They can increase the speed of BGs if they carry them
Also if the HVTOL had a infantry box that would be a lot of carry capacity
Logi-trucks can carry 5x infantry units
The thing that's way more practical is flexibility, too.
Like, if for some reason BG X needs help because their logi are fucked, but the only groups nearby are ones who can't spare logi, there doesn't need to be a whole BG or TF dedicated to combat that moves there, you can just move the dedicated logi BG there to help.
I'm not a PAI. I'm a Light Mech with Mech-Jump Jets 👉 👈
Or fighters for rearming, they don't need to wait 47 turns for their BG to pull back at the single airport to rearm and in the mean time have to wait and do nothing, if they're in the logi BG, they can just pull back more easily since they (normally) shall not be on the frontlines.
Ooohhhh
YEAH TURTLE II
I REMEMBER THAT NAME
YOU WERE IN THE CITADEL IN C3 RIGHT ?
BESIDES SKY81 !
yes
This is just part of theory crafting, but if the HVTOL was able to (which they aren't because I think Bonus Pay is different than req points) get the inf box we could high risk cram the medics and an engi into it, leaving us to need only one more VTOL or IFV to be speed two.
good
Nice. :D
True, but I don't think it's worth it imo. Speed 1 is fine in my eyes.
Otherwise: Light mech is not shiny sadly.
Good to see you back Turtle II tho. 
noooooo 🥺
Wonder where sky81's gone.
Does the entire BG need to move as one constantly?
Yes, unit coherency.
Basically, one BG/TF can only be on one tactical map/one point at a time.
There's already been complaints about VTOLs being too OP-
So for exemple, if we all are in Emil City, and we decided to move to another point BUT we are not all ready to move there (because, let's say, infantry is behind), one of 2 things happen:
- We wait for our infantry to be able to move with them
- We move anyways, killing the infantry left behind immediatly.
So, move as one.
If I'm clear
Not said a word since 26-10-2024 😔
I've thrown a ping in #meta-comm, I am very hopefull for him to come back 🙏
Ok I was unaware of that. In that case then yes it does make sense because thats how you would have to do it. Kinda a strange way of doing it but i understand for simplicity sake why it is the way it is.
Morning... What did I miss??
... Nope.
We got a HVTOL, Hunter. 
I understand the reason for this ruling... I don't like it...
Nice...
Neither do I, but it's for the best I guess.
Hunter my man 😃
I presume you already have a BG aswell turtle ? x)
I feel like there is a way to make it less frustrating for people and the Gems both, but we’re funna have to wait till v6 to look into that I guess
Yes Dwarf Fortress (BG 4)
Tbh, the solution is probably just to put all the units left behind on a reinforcement table like with enemy units.
Yeah, but that can get annoying to keep track off really quickly.
My understanding is that the unit only declared MIA and if they begin to submit orders again they are readded to the BG
I think if it’s to/from neutral/friendly territory we can kinda just move to another point regardless of where our units are on the tac-map fast-travel style, no?
This puts the BG in a position of, if you have one unit that is AFK or that miss the timeline, chosing between the entirety of the BG not playing the game or killing of that unit and the person coming back just to discover that his unit is dead...
Yeah, if we don't have a battlemap, moving is fine.
Oh I agree, I don’t like the rule either, it greatly limits what a lot of BGs are able to do and hinders a lot of cool ideas
Thats Honestly the real reason. With an event as big as this they want to simplify as much as they can to make it run smoothly.
Is not that difficult...
Like the idea that your logi can go back to base and return to you would be cool but it then opens up the questions of "What if my unit wants to go scout they next area?" or so on and so forth which gets into tracking different battlegroups in different areas. I could understand a rule for logi units like VTOL's that was like "If the logi unit leaves the map it can return at the start of the next map you move to" kinda thing (Not fully thought out) to not overcomplicate the idea of sending logi back on its own. But again even if it seems simple having to do that for every BG might scale the complexity to a level they dont want to deal with.
Yeah...
Keepin' it simple and seeing for improvements next time after having actually ran the gauntlet
We got a HVTOL? Not gonna complain or anything but... When did we get a HVTOL? Did I miss something? 😅
I found our old gdoc...
It's annoying to have to have that happen yea.
The game is gonna have 500ish players though, and asking 499 to wait another 3 days because one person didn't check in once over a three day period is pretty ridiculous.
...yeah, it's gonna be tough
@hazy radish Now the order tracker is FULLY AUTOMATED
We don't need to change the formula EVERY SINGLE FKING TURN***...
👉 👈
The formula now scan column B to see if has a name, then scan column D for the "Alive" status... If both are true them it counts for the total for of orders...
I still have the problem that, if someone die on turn 3, will affect turn 1 and 2 numbers... Will see who I can fix this...
2 actually...
Maybe...
If we make like a statement
When the check is not checked, it returns "N/A", if it is checked, it returns "Valid"
Since when a person is MIA/KIA, I will remove the checkboxes, we can say that "if there is no checkbox, then remove 1"
Something like that, no ?
Like if "empty" then "-1" or something like that ?
maybe?
Is doing that to grab the first number...
just realized we can transport Large Supply now
not sure if thats useful to us at all but we can do it
wait wait
don't we need like an engineer to put it on ?
...what would we even use large supply for ? 🤣
Drop it on an enemy MBT platoon. It's gotta weigh, like, a few dozens of tons right?
And could he carry and a large supply and a vehicle ?
Helping make sure that the airfield stays running?
"or"
So not both at the same time.
eyes
Ignore my bad memory, then.
But it implies that the stuff is going in an internal cargo bay, so...
Gonna point out that if it's "and" then it means that six small supplies or two squads of infantry are exactly equal to the volume of one large supply plus a vehicle.
The description is just listing the sorts of things it can carry, not the carrying capacity
yeah im pretty sure its supposed to be or
Yeah i think its just saying you can carry vehicles and heavy objects but not both at once.
What does that do for us? as opposed to carrying a vehicle?
...dunno
Supply Flow…
Large Supply - Carried by Orbitals. Used to Supply Orbital Taskforces and Ground HQ’s
-Using 1 Large Supply in an Orbital Taskforce marks the taskforce as “Supplied” for 2 rounds. When “Supplied” taskforce / HQ has the following effect.
Logistical Units can Pull Small / Medium Supply
Units can reload / rearm / repair from appropriate bays. (Mechs from Mech Bay, Aerospace from hangers..ect)
Onboard orbital weapons can be reloaded.
...nothing ?
scratches head
Wait, FOUND IT!
It is "or"
pretty sure they do, the biggest thing is where we get the LS from
couldn't we carry that around and then drop it for flying shovels when they put up their airbase
so just an instant full airbase turn 2 or 3 or whatever
That is not bad idea...
so that means Hunter will need to carry a large supply for Elim and L-H
For... a good amount of turns
...is it really worth it ?
so are we?
yes, but it'll take time for us to get there
My point is that it might just render Hunter useless if he takes a large supply ?
Unless he can land, drop the large supply, then can go and help, then need to take it back again before moving
It feels like a big hassle for not much tbh
i mean if hunter is cool with just using the d2 pew pew gun for 3 turns or so
Especially since flying shovels already got plenty of hats for LS.
Can't start with an LS - I mean you pop to orbit for 1 turn.
Oh, you can't ?
"You need an LS to build the Airfield to land the HATs with the LS" problem-
Shack said no starting with LS, at least for this campaign.
guess that's one issue solved then.
why would that render Hunter useless?
so ig someone ask hunter and if they're cool with it then time to proposition flying shovels
If he takes a large supply then that makes him unable to come and help move mechanized around if need be ?
Yeah but then where'd we get the large supply from then. 🤔
We can't spawn with it inside apparently.
ah yeah
i'm sure someone won't mind donating one for an airbase
.....definitely
I'm sure everyone else has supplies for airbases to spare
well, definitely a whole bunch to figure out
but first thing
@simple elm AYO apparently you can carry large supply, you'd up for carrying one for flying shovels eventually ?
We'd figure out the "when" and "where the large supply comin' from" eventually. Maybe. Hopefully.
Unfortunately we don't have engineers with the capability to build FOB's, so the LS is not that useful...
Does the other BG that will be at crossroads have enough engineers? We could bring for them
9
yeah, flying shovels got plenty of engis lol
Concatenate function used! Gaming!
Unless we get an HQ wherever we set up, there’s not really much point…
FOBs are… medium supplies still, right?
There's an airfield getting set up in crossroads where we're gonna be
flying shovels is workin' on it
Those aren’t HQ structures, are they?
I think so ? They need large supply I recon
I’m going to have to fully reread everything in the v5 ruleset
Skimming has steered me wrong
Maybe ? Could always go ask the ones in question.
You were correct, they are Large-Supply.
Ayyyyyyyyyy
See, this is why you read the stuff that's on your dynamites MG.
Something something, 3 meters security perimeter, something something.
I will unlock the most powerful Jutsu, placing landmines BEFORE the structure so they bypass regulations.
inb4 HATs exploding suddenly when they land 🤣
"K-boom, be it allies or ennemies, I want boom :)"
As long as we don’t actually get cited and/or court-martialed for our offenses, the CO doesn’t have to know.
Exactly as Sherman intended
[Pin Placeholder]
FoBs use medium
HQ use large
@left tapir
Shack adds a "can't be built within 1 unit of an active minefield" clause.
"An engineer walked over the mines while setting up the Airfield. All units constructing the airfield take damage, Lose 1LS, all airfield construction lost. Airfield cannot be constructed in current location.
What does "Status" mean in the Googledoc ?
...good question
Think I put that in so you can write in "need repairs" or "KIA/MIA" eventually if it happens
Or "need ammo" etc
Didn't think too hard on it tbh
oh okay. That would make sense.
yup
I mean when i get home from work i also don´t read 400+ Messages in the coms chat. That would make it easy for a quick overview
Yeah xD
We tend to speak a lot in here :)
Just don't be afraid to ask what's happening really
i have noticed 😛 I dont mind it at all. I will just ask for a quick sitrep every other day to stay on top of things 😅
Yup, that's fine ^^
What happened while I wasn't looking 😅
Huh
Just joking, nothing much, debate on HVTOL being able to carry large supply.
Ah
And what we would even do with large supply if we took it.
answer: give it to flying shovels
Us. Task Forces start with a combination of Large Supply and Battlegroups.
one problem solved
Atlas has 17 cargo space, which means 17 Large Supply, -4 for carrying y'all in (worth it)
Our two biggest ships are essentially heavy freighters
If HVTOL wants to be on that "supply/logistics" stuff, they'd be welcome to join Atlas, we've got an extra VTOL bay slot open.
So far he hasn't said anything x)
Right MBT unit proposed because just the VTOL and engi were practical and made sense so i couldn't allow it
I added an MBT unit to my company is what i mean
Wre have 4 days, there's still a chance
One can only hope. 🙏
Yeah sure
Phase 2: Build an airport, is gonna go well 😄
FYI:
TF2-Atlas has picked up a Medical Corvette with a VTOL bay.
If your medics are too busy, you can send your overflow to us when we're in the AO.
This also means than if we're carrying you, you can deploy most of your units direct from space if you want, giving you tons of freedom on how to deploy once we see maps.
TF2-Atlas has picked up a Medical Corvette with a VTOL bay.
oh, neat.
@hazy radishOhh yeah should give you a heads uop too
👀
If we don't get past 21 ppl by the 20th i'm hopping on atlas's drop pod ship for the initial elim insertion so you could recruit a 21st person then
oh
thought i'd give you a heads up
b-but then
my rare armcomon
and you're the first guy that joined
man this is emotional news
how am I supposed to cope with this ?
wha- no
i'm not leaving
More seriously: That is okay 
no french calm down
I'm just playing with ya because I find the context funny lol
oh it was a joke
Yeah
whew
Sorry yeah, text sarcasm is hard.
I get it it's fine
But yeah getting on atlas so you can be their 4th ODT and get use out of your ODT if we're 20/20 and we can get a 21st is all right in my eyes
For the record, you'd have to join atlas crew to lower Hammer's roster count.
Even when you're in Hammer, you can still use the drop pods to deploy.
Just thought I'd poke some fun because haha funni jokes.
?
and now i'm confused
did I not understand what sven said ?
i think my headache is impeding me.
I thought the ship with a drop bay and the ship with 20 free cargo were different ones though?
There's two paths:
A: Join Atlas Crew, and you can use our Drop pods multiple times. We'd have to come pick you up to move from one zone to another.
B: Stay with Hammer, and you can use our Drop pods to be deployed alongside the rest of your group
We can almost deploy everyone from space using our combined planes, VTOLs, and pods
doesn't matter. If you're part of a BG that's in our Fleet, you can use any of the ship's drop pods
Option B cdefinitely but if i'm on your drop pod ship i'm not taking up space or transport elswhere right
uhhhhh
so our limit is 21 instead of 20 thanks to Sven being a wonderfull, beautifull, lickable rare ODT ?
am I getting this right ?
no, the limit is still 20
fuk.
if you hit 21, Sven can switch to bring you back down to 20
okay.
and he'll still be able to drop with us, but he'd have to stay with the fleet instead of the Hammers
but that would be a permanent switch to Atlas if that were to happen then ?
yea
Yep
good
so, if I get this correctly
if we 21
then sven switch permanently to atlas, so we 20, but you still drop with us
yes ?
GOOD.
WEW.
And on this masterfull stroke of genius for a headache-induced brain, which is just a regular thought for a regular brain idk you do the conversions guys, I'm going to sleep 😅
Thanks 
do yall have any heavy drop pods?
darn :\
we're still figuring out if it's faster to deploy from the spaceport or drop in the 2nd wave.
first wave drop is definitely the fastest
ye
Just realized campaign starts Saturday
Hey guys, so I'm new, had a friend recommend you guys as a Battlegroup to join. Are you looking for any Light Mech's?
It's my fault
I think everyone else is asleep (I should be too lol) but yes! Welcome!!!!
We don’t have much of a plan atm aside from “go to crossroads” but check out our bg spreadsheet in pinned messages, and if you like what you see feel free to sign up!
They've got room! Use the doc to sign up
All are welcome!
Consider me recruited o7
Welcome... I as playing R6 didn't notice the message...
Welcome in! 
Who's that friend who recommended us? Just wondering 👀
oh it was @storm void
Ay, nice
Y'know
I have a slight feeling
That he eithers likes, or come from texas
I wonder why... 🤔
@glad hedge 
Once In Hammer, Always In Hammer
🔨
Won't lie, I am a bit saddened not to have everyone from Iron Hammer, but hey, cons of making the BG later I guess.
That just means more people I get to meet ! 
It was your ping when the campaign was announced that made me come back! ❤️
I do my best 
I've pinged a few vets from Iron Hammer aswell from time to time, but they all seem to be asleep. Dm-ed one even, no answers. :/
So is the way of life unfortunately. People move on to other things
But they will always be with us in Iron Hammer! 
Lunaaaaaaaa 😭
From lol
Damn, wonder how I could tell
Meanwhile, in our sheet, I made ARMCOmon a thing.
ARMCO lootboxes when?
Sssshhh, nothing nothing.
French, do you want to be able to get the list of all unit types and their counts, ordered by quantity?
I can order them by quantity after in google sheets, it's not a problem
If it doesn't take too much of your time then yeah organizing them by quantity could be nice when we run the command :)
Also getting those zeros
Aye, I'd agree for that !
because I have a list of every unit type that can exist
noice
gimme gimme 👀
If you got light mech, heavy mech and medium mech separated, that'd be swell too.
/debug query query:SELECT * FROM unit_types
and no it doesn't distinguish them, I could make it do that, but it's complicated to do
Query result: [('ARMOREDLOGI', 0, None, None, 0), ('ARTILLERY', 1, None, None, 0), ('Banned', 0, None, None, 0), ('BOMBER', 1, None, None, 0), ('CAPTAIN', 0, 178, None, 0), ('CBTENGINEERS', 0, None, None, 0), ('COMBATMEDIC', 0, None, None, 0), ('CREW', 1, None, None, 2), ('ENGINEER', 1, None, None, 0), ('FIELDENGINEERS', 0, None, None, 0), ('FIGHTER', 1, None, None, 0), ('HAT', 1, None, None, 0), ('HEAVYGUNSHIP', 0, None, None, 0), ('HEAVYTRUCK', 0, None, None, 0), ('HEAVYVTOL', 0, None, None, 0), ('HOVERCRAFT', 0, None, None, 0), ('IFV', 1, None, None, 0), ('INFANTRY', 1, None, None, 0), ('LIGHT_VEHICLE', 1, None, None, 0), ('LOGITRUCK', 1, None, None, 0), ('MBT', 1, None, None, 0), ('MECH', 1, 130, 125, 0), ('MEDIC', 1, None, None, 0), ('MEDICALCORP', 0, None, None, 0), ('ODT', 0, None, None, 0), ('PAI', 0, None, None, 0), ('RUGGEDTRANSPORT', 0, None, None, 0), ('SHBT', 0, None, None, 0), ('SPECIALFORCES', 0, None, None, 0), ('SPECOPSVTOL', 0, None, None, 0), ('SPGARTILLERY', 0, None, None, 0), ('STOCKPILE', 0, None, None, 0), ('VTOL', 1, None, None, 0)]
Ah. :/
I guess you could get the list of upgrades and see how many medium and heavy mech chassis there are.
don't mind the numbers, although you can probably guess what they mean, and Derg that would cause double counting is the issue
Now can anyone tell what all the numbers mean
@muted eagle VIVIAN
I CAN AUTOMATE IT
DONT MANUALLY CHANGE EVERY SINGLE ONE
VIVIAAAAAAAAAAN
VIVIAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN
You can't automate it yet, debug query is restricted
on the sheet i mean
But what if I wanted to change every single one :p
Just wait until I have the command to make it spit out a nice csv
NO SHES GOING AT IT AGAIN
HAAAAAAAAAAANK
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
(fuck i need to watch breaking bad one day)
And done
Alright !
We can get pretty close by subtracting the number of medium and heavy chassis from the total number of mechs to get the number of LMs.
Though it does assume that we don't have anyone with both a medium and heavy and that people with a medium or heavy always use it.
So I see your point.
-# i'm incacpable of coding. i can't even type incapable
you could write a query to get the counts of the highest chassis owned by any player
scratches head
there's loads of things here that say "none" yet that there are signed up/with the normal command
Right, I might do what I'm trying to do with python instead, that'd be much simpler
Those None mean there might be a value there, but in that case there isn't, that data has nothing to do with the counts, that's just the data about the types themselves
The query to get the counts is more complicated
Right, so, are there any other unit types/refits that isn't in ARMCOmon yet ? 🤔
sure
ah!
you need an authorisation to download the python script
also i don't have python so i can't run it
but omg that is genius
it's here
Well, I imagine you can download python considering it's free, unless you're on a phone I guess
i'm too lazy :P
Yeah, you've got a 76% chance of getting uncommon or below
Infantry...
The gambling battlegroup.
Accepts only a specific amount of units, that has been gambled by the head of the battlegroup
I'm gambling on ARMCOmon Thonny
"Hey I wanna join as an mbt
-hold on let me gamble
-what?
-unfortunate, we only accept another combat engineer today"
Clearly we do the meta campaign but what you get in the lootbox is what unit you play
bwahahah
arty on 3rd try, lets go!
gambling to keep the meta campaign date away
I read this, look down and I see another infantry
It's done
The dice always knows best
Did your dice just call me common loot? 🤣
I, no, ehm, well... 🤣
Look at the iron hammer sheet, there's an ARMCOmon sheet now, it's nothing against you, just memes 🤣
We even got a lootbox now.
I spent the last 30 mins trying to program by keypad to run this thing on a single key press to no avail. :(
I should sleep
I swear KMK is busted as hell.
Yes.
That seems like pain
I just woke up and my bg has devolved into gambling and techno-wizardry… all is right with the world
I got it to the point where it should run, and then it just didn’t. It just friggen decided not to. There weren’t even any bugs, it just decided not to run the function when I hit the key.
LET'S GO GAMBLING
damn :(
Aw dang it.
See, this is what happens when an Operation has nothing to do for a few days
It devolves into memes and gambling.
I see I lost my Unique status, it was fun while it lasted lol
Time to convert to a rugged hat to be unique 🧠
LETS GO GAMBLIIIINNNNNNG
Hell yeah
How many pulls for each ? 🤣
Just do
while True:
exec(open("ARMCOmonLootboxes.py").read())
Trust me
-# Dont actually do this if you dont know how to manually stop Python
lmaooo
woah
leaks of your name and last name
beware
or whoever's name and last name that is
I'm not particularly bothered by it tbh
weeeeeeeeeeeeeell
I did ARMCOmon
Then McFat proposed "a lootbox"
One thing led to another and BOOM, ARMCO lootboxes babyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
how do i play...?
fuckin' hell we're all going into gambling now 🤣
In the iron hammer sheet, the "armcomon" sheet, then there should be a doc, get on it, then python script to download and to run on your machine
On a side note, I just opened the sheet for the first time not on mobile in like a week... I had no idea how cluttered it's gotten lmao
-# other half was me
-# yet a third half was me
-# wait if we have 3 halves doesn't that make 150% ?
-# shhhhhhh
That math aint mathing
Yes it is !
You go 50 + 50 + 50
then you like remove 2
add 7
multiply by "some amount"
and boom 100%
I'm great at math.
Nahhh we're over achievers here in Iron Hammer
Why settle for 100% when we could have 200%... or 1000%
Yeah ! You tell 'em !
Okay, I gotta be honnest
I wanna give some VTOLs (with consent) to 212th Logi, and I wanna give an engi (with consent) to Phalanx, so one can form their battlegroup and the other can, actually survive a little bit longer, especially considering the amount of mechanized they have.
Thing is, I've no idea for the 212th Logi if it'll be formed, and if it isn't at the last moment and we recruit more and our VTOLs come back because 212th logi wasn't able to form, we're fcked for atlas transport
As for Phalanx, I have an idea of like asking them "give us an MBT, we give you an engi" for the fun of it
But all of theses require consent and I don't know how you guys are feeling about all this.
(with consent)
^ important
@jolly cloud @ivory goblet @south ether @sleek cedar @left tapir
Worthy of a ping since you guys are directly concerned by this 👀
If you guys have any opinions about this. Note I won't force anyone to switch or join anything else, everything needs consent, I just wish to contribute to other BGs who need units and can't find them because I'm a kind guy.
Arnt orders due in 3 days?
no the campaign starts on the 22nd and orders in on the 25th or 24th-26th whatever timezones are weird
Ok I misunderstood
It seems MG may depart so I will stick around for now
We keep our ultra rare ARMCOmon ! 
Aww we’re losing an engi?
If he consents, yes, but we will gain an MBT in the process
And besides, it's for the good of ARMCO, Phalanx literally have no engineers despite having 11 vehicles, I'd be extremely appreciate of MG if he switches (and is willing)
We'll still have one engi which should suffice as we are still a majority of non-mechanized units.
There are VTOLs and Light Mechs yes, but thoses can run away and fallback easier then most I recon. 👀
I mean if you guys don't want anyone to leave, do voice it, but ultimately it is their personnal choice to agree (or not) with what I said. I am not forcing anyone to switch over if they don't want to.
#1382148654596489388 message @fierce dirge I've seen you salute, say no more, get in there ! 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ytrV7iCxoqhiUcwDLLMdm4KIjlj7tNLzE48gtdv1Uh4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
🙂
Goodbye @left tapir and thank you once again for switching over to Phalanx 
And welcome in ! 
yay dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt
You're already fitting right in 🤣
Status is= alive? or unit activate in chat?
Status is whatever you want it to be during the campaign basically, so you can write in "alive" like the others, but I intended for it to be mostly like "need repairs" or "help needed", "need healing" etc
Flexes back
watch me frickin explode gloriously in the first round

DON'T YOU DARE, WE EXPLODE TOGETHER, OR WE DON'T !
You can still stick around here if you want 👉 👈
Communal exploding? Hell yeah
Oh yeah, also Dynagrum, we got gambling.
And you need to update the gdoc @hazy radish
I love gambling (with high yield explosives)!!!!
It has been updated
How about you all try communal surviving. I heard it is in fashion.
Nahhh round 1 wipes only here
How about communal gambling?
Agreed... Trending on X even...
OH, true
We already got that on lock
I definitely won't develop a gambling addiction later in life and definitely don't already have one
99% of gamblers stop before they hit the jackpot, never forget that
Don’t be like the 99%! Chase bigger things!
Oh god dangit xD
Can we at least welcome Dynagrum for 5 seconds without talking about GAMBLING ?! xD
Ye!
sorry boss, but the gambling is more important
also i cant wait for us all to get wiped turn 1
Wanna roll a dice to see if we do?
Uh what? I was opening TF2 lootboxes
God dang it, I got a batllegroup of gamblers. 🤣
No you made a battlgroup of gamblers
I roll a D12 and the number on the dice is the amount of turns we survive
you started this
Technically, @glad hedge did by asking about lootboxes.
I didn't ask about 'em.
The dice says we'll survive 8 turns
Yeah but you gave everything ratings
Hell yeah!
Lol, I used to do lootboxes on TF2, but then I learned that Vampire Survivors exists and my eyes went 👁️ 👁️
More people to get into gambling
who wants to bet if the dice is right or not, 2-1 odds, cash only
Yeahhhh this is mostly on you buddy
Time to roll a D2 then, 1 is it's right, 2 is it's wrong
I swear, you better stop being into gambling once the campaign starts !
It's a 2
I am not losing units because you guys want to gamble your lives away 🤣
dammit vivian no one put any bets in!
:p
If the dice tells me to jump in front of a tank, then I jump in front of the tank
ahhh we'll be fine boss, remember you gotta loose money to loose money I MEAN MAKE MONEY, FUCK!
guys i think VIvian has a dice problem
GOD DANGIT
I've been playing d&d and my character is literally all about rolling dice and getting random effects from those dice 😅
And besides, the dice always knows
I've had some absolutely amazing things with those random effects
As intended. I’m sure my unit will be wiped right beside yours.
Glad to be here 🙂 and to bring in the steel that bends backs and shatters armor
The Warwolf will be wherever there is something as heavy or heavier than the Warwolf 😈
Stark contrast to my ol' Leclerc it seems 🤣
Wild magic sorcerer?
Nah, homebrew
Had a DM that had 100 permanent effects assigned to a percentile die and when we were knocked we had to roll. I was a party face and the first time I went down I got a permanent disfigurement that reduced my Charisma so I don't gamble much anymore lol
Our DM has over like, 400 wild magic tables
Fair enough
Oof, no more gambling.
I rolled a d100 for a random effect and it creates flowers, which is all nice and all ~~The issue is what happened next, because of the situation it was in, it led to my character getting siblings ~~
Oh…
What happened to good ol' Leclerc? >.>
That reminds me of the warhammer ttrpg that had a d100 table for warp changes if you failed a spell or got too heretical.
roll 100 twice >:)
Oh it's a good ol' machine, still works like a charm. Just gotta pay the bills to repair and maintain it... xD
36 and 25
damnit, your making me open up the book
You don't just mention a d100 table and expect me to not roll a d100
I know that tomb of annihilation? Also has a permanent effects table.
Daemonic Mask: For a fleeting moment, the psyker takes on a daemonic appearance and gains the Fear (1) trait until the start of the
next turn. However, he also gains 1 Corruption point.
Haunting Breeze: Winds whip up around the psyker for a few moments, blowing light objects around and guttering fires within
3d10 metres.
That's 16 metres
Your neighbor's house burns down and all the animals are frightened of you
Shrugs Could've been worse
It really could XD
Officially, I am not part of this BG, so I can;t be held accountable
I accidentally unleashed a monsoon, a blizzard and fog that made you forget things into a massive refugee camp one time
My favorite one: Dark Foreboding: A faint breeze blows past the psyker and those near him, and everyone gets the feeling that somewhere in the galaxy
something unfortunate just happened.
And by massive I mean massive, the thing was like, miles large
hoho that one's funny. We used to play some wh40k ttrpg, forgot the name of it, but it was fun
Mannnnn now I wanna get back into dnd 😭
Dark Heresy?
I think yes
That is the Inquisition one
I should maybe ask, I forgot the exact name of it
Anyways, I'll let you guys be, I got a gym to attend to MUSCLE UP 💪
Cya in a few hours lads 
They've managed to kill literally everything our gm throws at us in a single turn
See you later 
That MBT turret ain't gonna turn itself!
we've got light mechs and spaceships and laser cannons, but we're still using manual turret rotation!?!?!?
i am willing to move to 212 if that puts that at 15
This might be solved already (im at work so I cant read all the messages), but TF2 has vtol bay space, and I wouldn't be surprised if TF1 and TF3 did as well (cant check right this minute), so if the 212th doesn't hit the min, we could, with the consent of the VTOL folks, of course, find homes for them, neat and tidy. Alrighty, ill let you degens get back to your gambling machine
I know Dark Heresy has a pysker/perils of the warp thing
I know now they have a totally new one made by another company called wrath and glory, they have an AoS one, and they just released a new version of Warhammer RPG.
Noted ! 
Alright, let's hope so.
GAMBLINNNNNNNNNNG
Gambling!
Gambling?
We clearly need to expand the lootbox operation
When this campaign is over we need to organise a poker night and play with req points
Gambling sounds more fun then loot boxes even though loot boxes are gambling.
If you want to try and make Sam PCI compliant, have fun
-# doing so would require hacking into my network though
I do!
Perfect !
I'm hacking into the matrix guys 😎
just, don't look at the website's name
it's real coding guys
100%
Nice, he's learning :p
ye :)
I’m so tempted to improve ARMCOmon’s code to make it actually readable.
nothing's stopping you 👀
I mean, maybe your lack of free time, work or studies to do.
But I know I'm not.
I mean, I could make it a real function, learn how to use arrays or matrixes or whatever its called to make it work cleanly…
I know coding
I know 2 nubs in info about coding.
What nubs are those?
I can read stuff and I have ideas of what the computer needs to do, just not knowing how to tell the computer to do it.
Ay, coding experience I guess.
Whenever I code I’m just like, let me friggen trigger this line of code when I want to! Then I have to search online, figure out what I write to make it do that.
Yeah but that’s the joy in it right? The figuring it out and see it work. At least for me. But yeah I have spent my fair share of time on stack overflow.
Yeees.
We've given off, consensually, our engi MG to Phalanx, and in exchange they gave us a shiny MBT.
Why to Phalanx ?
They were begging, nay, dying for an engineer, and no one wanted to chime in.
Not even the Flying Shovels with their 9 engis
So I went:
I do get addicted when I try… but damn can it get annoying. I suppose its just like learning a language.
And I did. 
ik they've been asking for onwe for ages
I mean it IS learning a language and just like learning normal languages the more you learn the easy it gets to learn another. But yeah it can be ANNOYING like downright awful sometimes if you can’t find the bug or problem your looking for.
Logic errors are the worst
Stares at the unending chain of if statements
Yeah, I'll probably make some improvements on it tomorrow
logic error.
Gambling 2.0 let's gooooooooooooooo
There's absolutely a better way to do it than I did
I just need to get back into programming
I think an array or matrix would be the thing to use. I dunno the difference.
Also please just select the mon after the pause, that was so many extra lines
Small 15 minute coding adventure.
Only 15 mins !?
It was more a style choice tbh
cries in way too many lines
Naw some obscure syntax errors for languages your learning are worst
Atleast visual studio code tends to know and tell me where they are
Fair. IDE are helpful but sometimes even they don’t point out syntax problems or if they do they don’t tell you how to fix them and that becomes a whole new problem. Ideally logic issues within your code shrink over time but I know that’s not always the case.
For me they just seem to increase over time instead 😅
Well, I should get some sleep
So goodnight everyone
Goodnight, don’t let the logic problems invade your dreams.
Good night vivian ! 
Yeah, thanks to a tradedeal with Phalanx 
If I knew anything about python I'd give it a whirl, but alas, I'm no wizard.
Also, Operation "Deuce" (for when shit hits the fan) is prepped just in case we can't dock with the spaceport as soon as we get there.
It has everyone but your heavy vehicles down in one turn.
And everyone down by the 2nd.
Between the two of us, we've got enough VTOLs and HATs to drop your infantry
We'd have to borrow the HVTOLs from storm, but it's doable
Juuust the two of us~
We have one hvtol in hammer so we could get a single mbt down round one right?
exactly
Oh true, but which one ?
I have a feeling we’re gonna need the ap
Randomize it
GAMBLINNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG
it's very much a "last resort" kinda plan, so no need to pick now
just wanted to let you know
Gamble every tactical decision, what could possibly go wrong?
@median epoch my intrusive thoughts won
We can make it if we tryyyy
God please no xD
It's fine, it's not like every single BG is counting on us to keep the port open
.>
Just the two of us is one of my favorite songs. I know the lyrics by heart. Also is that you singing french?
Thats nice. I remeber singing just the two of us at a college party and bombing halfway through due to all eyes being on me. I wanted to crawl in a hole and die.
Way back #meta-comm message <- here I wanted to sing that joke but, the song literally prooved too difficult for me lol
Yup, no pressure AT ALL.
Who says you cant be a professional opera chorister in ARMCO too? We need an army band right?
Ooo nice.
Hey, if they add a bard class, I'm joining up
Actual footage of me testing code when i ran out of ideas.
Hmm... Which unit is the bard?
Bard class
0 req refit
+8 moral
Add speakers to a tank
"But sir, moral isn't a thing in the rules yet!
-I know.
-So what does it do ?
-Nothing."
Like the old spore units in civ stage would blast sermons or something
core memory unlocked lol
I remember always remembering having to make sure to awlays kill a certain ammount of people so i didnt have to play religious in that stage
I think I never played religious, maybe once for fun but military & trade ftw
Oh i loved that
Frenchie voice reveal pog
I always remember making sure NOT to kill to many people because i thought the agressive game plan was to boring.
I had my dad design TOOOOOONS of my toy cars on that game.
designing the vehicles was my facourite part
Yeah i spent hours designing space ships and tanks
economic is by far the best one
hmm?
...we're a bit too far strayed I feel 😅
Ah we must be le moderated
I loved the spaceship designing part (which makes sense at least)
At least a tiny bit !
I'm fine with some memes and jokes but we literally went onto a whole other different game guys 🤣
yea, so about that... business?
you mean the gambling?
Conversations must relate to said missions. Stay on topic.
#1364169464056250429 message
No gambling. Also sorry i started it.
yeah, so glad i joined Iron Hammer
Side note every tank, mech, plane, and ship in ARMCO should have spore design. I think it would increase moral.
Hey, nothing's stopping you from posting it in meta chat
tag me if you want, haven't played spore in ages
that would actually be a cool way to make your own unit designs
I know some guys who used stormworks images, you can use spore images to say "that's how my unit looks like" ofc
That'd be super fun
I mean there's literally a guy who's MBT is a fucking pirate ship 🤣
Like heroforge for D&D characters
I guess there are a bunch of real world tanks you could pick from
IFV with full AC is literally a Puma
Yeah and spore is like super cheap its only 5 bucks. Also yeah its like the people who use the character creator from baldurs gate 3 for their table top characters
Got a Leclerc. :)
tres bien
Lack of accent is pardonned if you have a qwerty keyboard or one who doesn't have "è"
Ahhhh electrohalo right?
yes, apologies for my boring american keyboard
You are excused 
I remember that from the two minutes I was also in dashing through the snow lol
I always imagined my Light mech to like like something in between a Barbarossa from lancer and a Locust from mech warriors
I'm partial to the ARL 44 myself.
Also, just circling back on this. You have a great voice French!
Ooooh, very good choice !
Good taste sir
Thanks ! ❤️
Honnestly really happy about the voice compliment
it is a lovely voice boss
LANCER MENTIONED BASED DEPARTMENT.
Like, most of my friends that I sing they're like "oh yeah it's good, I like it", you know, good vibes
lol
And I showed it to one of my friends at some point who didn't hear me singing
Hey gotta give credit where credit is due
I think the comment I had was "what the fuck was that, this is a torture instrument"
I was not fucking ready for that
Oh
That would actually crush me
Also it just means french has to give us a good battle cry since they have a good voice.
yea dude, sounds good
"HELP"
"That's a torture weapon you've got here"
her exact words translated into english
SOOOOOOOOOOOO yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh 🤣
The good news is, I've found the second person who doesn't like me singing
Bad news, she said it in the worst possible fucking way 🤣
OH FUCK THAT MAKES ME THINK
I had to make the chirpadeesquirp battlecry for pathfinders but I forgot
Remind me of that tomorrow guys
(fucking using you guys as an alarm 🤣)
It did a bit 😅
On phone so I can't keep up with the convo but I uh... sixth? The good voice comment
PATHFINDER MENTIONED. Sorry but im currently running a PF2e game so i had to.
Our comms really do feel like its a bunch of mercs sitting in a room waiting for deployment
Because IT IS
yeah but like everyone else is plannin and stuff
I'm playing at the moment too kkk
Good old Iron Hammer...
Eh, not planning so much as "being an active person who's willing to say hi to new recruits"
You guys are getting new recruits ?!
occasionally
I feel like now it's been dryed enough, we're only getting maybe 5-10 people more in the campaign lol.
there's sometimes a rush on the saturday before the deadline
...we'll see
If we're under 20/at 20 saturday 23h55 i'll close the recruitment
so, say about 44 hours from now
approximated
And if we're above, hey I heard pathfinders are gonna keep at 20 so they can be transported just incase. Hurray ? 👀
I'm hoping we can take you regardless, you're bringing the heat and the funnies
ye :)
Pathfinders is also bringing heat.
And cute animals >w<
Sorry, Pathfinders creepin' in.
Don't downplay Pathfinders, they're fun lads too 👀
Hello! I just signed up for the battlegroup!
Welcome my friend...
we're pretty mechanised now
Hey! We resemble that remark!
We rly need that ap tbf
yeah im pretty glad, 3 MBT's is such a big force multiplier
But I’m in the middle of upgrading ARMCOmon :(
Oh cool, we got a third MBT
…ok wow
I’ve finally cleaned up the ARMCOmon code. Its so much easier to expand now.
Now I just need some more features…
Nice
I would look however doing that on phone is a pain
I got 2 ultra rares when developing and testing. swear I didn't rig this!
Welcome! 
YAAAAAAY MBT FWIEND
Advanced gambling pog
Also, if we didn't trade that engi to Phalanx who needed one for an MBT, we'd thanks to luck have gotten an MBT buddy for me.
Aren't we lucky, getting everything we need eventually? 
I call this a win for gambling
It's what happend in C3 too so 🤣
Now it'd be funny to have an arty or more IFVs, but we'll see
damn, yall are looking nice and chonky now w/ 3 MBTs
Looks at the graph
Chonkier than before!
5 infantry with 2 medics to help them, alongwith 2 IFVs & 3 VTOLs for transport
3 MBTs & 2 IFVs who both have the auto-canon that gives them extra range (and is AP I think), along with 1 engi to help repair and 1 HVTOL for deployment/extraction/HELPPLEASE
3 light mechs for recon/quick deployment of help
This ought to be looking fantastic !
All I'd say we need is 3 more IFVs so we can be mechanized and go speed 2, and all is well and done ! 
...btw we are at 20 so, if we do recruit 2 more and the 212th logi isn't formed, we're not getting atlas transport
should prob' go update them
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Me doin a little dance of celebration:
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Ooooh Zenturion, a man of culture I see 
Me, following Dynagrum's dance of celebration:
WTF?! I swear I'm not changing the RNG here.
I roll again for testing and I get a friggen combat medic?!
Ok, a mech... A COMBAT ENGI?!? WTF
How the heck do we have a card game before a dating simulator?
You fucked up the RNG derg I think 🤣
uhhhh, why would we have a dating sim??
That's what one week of waiting does to a battlegroup
We invent ways to entertain ourselves
...notably gambling
oh god... I've fucked up the RNG somehow.
I was more thinking about those shitty personality quizz to see what unit you would be.
Ohhhhh
Oh yeah but we gotta make it really nonsensical.
Alright, who knows how to make a website ? 🤣
oh no >.>
you can always use google sites. its easy as hell to use
ah I dunno x)
i used friggen set brackets instead of square brackets for a list. i dum dum.
rip
Do you use sets often? In my 8 years of coding in Python I have never used them lol