questions-2

[plain umbra]

No problem.

[hushed spade]

I was just going with the joke of like Panzer and then that 20000 or whatever Panzer would still be panzer not like panzers.

[half arch]

Auch homosexuell bedeutet nur, das man sich vom anderen Geschlecht angezogen fühlt und hat nichts mit dem eigenen Geschlecht zu tun. Frauen und Männer können gleichermaßen homosexuell sein.

Nice name color you got there

[mellow nova]

Homo klingt für mich ein bisschen unhöflich

when you mean homosexuell

[inland jungle]

ist es grammatikalisch richtig zu sagen "ein Hobby verdient man Geld" oder ist es besser zu sagen "ein Hobby bringt Geld " oder weder? id like to say that someone can earn money from their hobby but im not sure how to word it

[near folio]

Mit einem Hobby verdient man Geld. ist eine Möglichkeit.

[mighty mist]

ein Hobby bringt Geld

[long whale]

^^You can't say ein Hobby verdient man Geld. :)

[inland jungle]

danke!

[inland jungle]

danke!

[near folio]

Dein erster Satz ging nicht, weil du ein Subjekt (man) und zwei Akkusativobjekte (Ein Hobby und Geld) hast, und "verdienen" fordert nur ein Akkusativobjekt.

[inland jungle]

ahh okay, danke fuer die Erklaerung! Fuer mich habe ich gedacht dass "ein Hobby" das Subjekt war lol

ist diese Frage richtig? "Sollte ein Hobby Geld bringen?"

[mellow nova]

ein Hobby sollte Spaß machen

[loud shoal]

another question

beide can mean "both" and "either" at the same time right?

[long whale]

🤔 I don't think that's quite correct - or at least, you may get problems if you think of "either" as "beide". :)

[distant hawk]

i think it depends on the sentence but i'd say either means entweder

[loud shoal]

ok thanks

[quartz ingot]

Die Priesterin wusste es nicht wirklich einzuschätzen.
Kann jemand mir erläutern wie ist das denn dass 2 Verben in einem Satz so stehen? Ich fühle als ob hier schon wieder eine [...] Teil fehlt

Das Satz bedeutet dass sie nicht etwas schätzen konnte, das weiß ich.

[long whale]

Nothing missing, no. Yes, exactly: "etwas einzuschätzen wissen" = to be able to evaluate something ;)

*Ich habe das Gefühl, dass... ;)

[quartz ingot]

etwas einzuschätzen wissen
Ist normales Sprichwort? lol das krank

[distant hawk]

i think it's kinda like a phrase that just belong together

not sure tho

[quartz ingot]

I'll just read some Beispielsatze

🙏

[distant hawk]

i'm sorry i couldn't really help you but good luck!

[inland jungle]

sorry got another question lol. is it right to say "Ich verbringe meinen ganzen Tag damit, mein Hobby zu machen" to say that "i spend the whole day doing my hobby" i used reverso context because I wasnt sure how to word it lol

[swift bough]

Reverso context is very often inaccurate, do not recommend - however for that sentence it’s grammatically correct, though maybe not the best way to put that.

„Ich verbringe den ganzen Tag mit meinem Hobby“

I don’t ever even say „I‘m doing my hobby“ in English

[mellow nova]

i don't ever say hobby outside of naming what my hobby is

[inland jungle]

im native english and i say "im doing my hobby" might be regional

but thank you for the help!!

[swift bough]

Yeah, right

Or maybe to say „I want to try out a new hobby“

But usually you don’t say you’re doing your hobby, you just say you’re doing exactly what you’re doing

[fervent kernel]

What's the difference between gebrochen and kaputt?

[loud shoal]

got another question

whe you say "i asisted in the danish school"

in german its

Ich besuche eine dänische Schule

but "besuche" means visited by itself

so in german you just say "i visited a danish school"

or is google translate wrong

[swift bough]

It’s correct

It can mean „to attend“

Welche Schule besuchst du? = which school do you attend/go to

[mellow nova]

very few words have one singular translation in any language

if any

[fervent kernel]

?

[swift bough]

Btw assisted doesn’t make any sense in that English sentence

[quartz ingot]

I'd say kaputt is when a thing is beyond hope of repairing or something's broken in general while gebrochen is everything else and more specific
best example I can give is "Dein Knochen ist gebrochen"

[swift bough]

You would have to say what you are assisting with

[quartz ingot]

that's how I communicate between brigade leaders on shift at work

[loud shoal]

sorry i was translating from spanish

[swift bough]

np

Just letting you know

[loud shoal]

thanks

but google translate is right

[swift bough]

eine Schule besuchen

[fervent kernel]

Is this a question or an affirmation?

[swift bough]

Yes it’s correct

[loud shoal]

perfect

thanks you very much

[fervent kernel]

If this is a question, you should say "but is google translate right?"

[swift bough]

^

Correct

[fervent kernel]

If it's a question, the "is" goes first

[swift bough]

Or you can just add a ? to what you wrote

And everyone would understand that

[mellow nova]

both are definitely correct and usable

there are two forms of formulating questions, one without changing word order and one with

[fervent kernel]

Uh? My English teacher always corrected me when I didn't change the word order

[mellow nova]

how natives speak trumps a non native english teacher unfortunately

not changing word order generally expresses surprise

pretty positive you can do the same in german

[inland jungle]

can I ask where youre from? This english sentence is right for me. As someone from England, I would say that "assisted" makes perfect sense here

[mellow nova]

it does not make sense in the sentence that they wanted to write regardless of your dialect

[inland jungle]

wdym though? "I assisted in the danish school" as in, "i helped out in the danish school" or am i misinterpreting it?

[mellow nova]

they've both stated 'attend' and 'besuchen' both of which are translations of 'asistir'

assist is a different meaning for 'asistir' but from their example it is clear that's not what they meant

[swift bough]

It doesn’t make sense because it’s extremely unspecific

Not that it’s grammatically wrong

[mellow nova]

àlso assisting the danish school would be very odd. monetarily? assisting the teachers? the students? the public image?

[swift bough]

Assisted with what?

If someone said to me „I assisted at that school“ with zero context, every time I would ask them „assisted with what?“

Because they didn’t say

It doesn’t tell you what they actually did

And I am American

[mellow nova]

it was just a spanish>english translation error 🤷‍♂️ nothing more

[swift bough]

You can assist with a numerous amount of things

That‘s why without saying it it’s a meaningless sentence

[quartz ingot]

Wenn das Etwas zu schätzen wissen Phrase to be able to evaluate something bedeutet, kann ich z.B. son ein Satz sagen?:
Ich weiß das Test nicht zu schätzen. (I'm not able to evaluate this test)

[swift bough]

Uh, „etwas zu schätzen wissen“ = to appreciate something

Ich weiß zu schätzen, dass du mir hilfst.

[quartz ingot]

Und falls das Etwas einzuschätzen wissen wäre so wie hier gesagt

[swift bough]

Ja

[mellow nova]

ganz unterschiedliche Verben

[swift bough]

Einschätzen ist was anderes

Jap

[quartz ingot]

ok

[mellow nova]

I don't know if it fits in your sentence

[fervent kernel]

Isn't Partnerin feminine?

[mellow nova]

yes

[high garden]

Yep

[icy flax]

Purely out of curiosity, how is the sentence in Spanish? ||"asistí en la escuela danesa", o algo asi?||

[loud shoal]

you want me to translate it

?

well

it is grammatically correct tho

[wise mauve]

Kann jemand mir etwas über Deutsch SEO empfehlen ? ich meine Kurs , Youtube kanal oder buch . Bitte.

[loud shoal]

also its a bit weird since you are asking yourself whether you were in the school or nah

[sage tendon]

Check #resources list

[wise mauve]

Thanks a lot 😃

[icy flax]

no no, te toy preguntando como es la frase que has traducido, aquella original en español, escrita por ti.

[loud shoal]

ahhh ok

yo he asistido en una escuela danesa

(there is an accent in the last "i" of asisti)

[icy flax]

Thanks! (:

[loud shoal]

np

no wait

una*

[solid hull]

he asistido

[loud shoal]

true

[naive raven]

Ich möchte gern deine Freundin und Dich am 30. Mai zu meiner Geburtstagparty herzlich einladen. 

Die party beggint um 20:00 Uhr bei mir zu Hause, meine neue mexikanische Freundin Sarah kocht etwas Einheimisches, dies wird sehr lecker, aber ser scharf! Bringt gute Laune mit, wir werden mit allen meinen Freunden viel spaß haben.

ich würde mich sehr Freuen, wenn ihr beide zu meiner Geburtstagsparty erscheinen würdet.

Viele liebe Grüße

Dein Zaid.```

is this correct?

[noble yacht]

Please post this only in one question channel! ^^

[night dagger]

bitte vermeide Cross-Posting.

[paper wharf]

Muss man immer "um" vor Uhr benutzen?

z.B. Ich stehe um 7 H auf & Ich stehe 7 H auf.

[fervent kernel]

Ja @paper wharf Ich war um 4 Uhr draußen
Aber „uhr“ ist nicht wirklich pflicht, du kannst auch sagen „ich stehe täglich um 7 auf“

Obwohl moment

Also uhr ist eher doch richtig, aber es ist auch nicht falsch es nicht zu benutzen, falls du verstehst was ich sagen will.

Aber um deine frage zu beantworten, ja, man benutzt „um“ vor der uhrzeit

[white marsh]

Nicht immer
Man sagt nicht "Es war um 7 Uhr als er ging"
Da sagt man einfach nur "Es war 7 Uhr als er ging "

[fervent kernel]

Stimmt

Kommt drauf an

[fervent kernel]

Does "wir müssen reden" carry the same weight as "we need to talk" when a girlfriend texts you?

Or what would be that German say in those cases?

[night dagger]

yup

[near folio]

Also, wenn man diesen Artikel glaubt, ist es auch auf Deutsch schlimm: https://gedankenwelt.de/wir-muessen-reden-die-drei-worte-die-jeder-partner-fuerchtet/

lol: Es fühlt sich an, als würde die Welt untergehen, wenn dein Partner sagt: „Wir müssen reden.”

[night dagger]

lmao

eine andere Quelle lautet, dass die Aussage todernst klingt.

„Hey, wir haben in letzter Zeit nicht wirklich miteinander geredet. Ich fühle xy und habe nicht gewusst, wie ich es sagen soll.“ ist eine bessere Art, es auszudrücken.

[foggy cave]

I have a question about the correct mode to be used in order to express “future in the past”.
Zb. Ich wusste nicht, dass ich so viele neue Sachen heute (lernen konjugiert)

Is it just “lernen würde”?

Süß, vielen Dank

[swift bough]

Sachen btw for plural

Also sounds better as „dass ich heute…“

[foggy cave]

Eh, Satzbau still gives me trouble. I’m ok with the TE-KA-MO-LO pattern but I never know where to put the subject and direct/indirect object in Nebensätze

[swift bough]

I can just sort of feel that it sounds more natural like that, but it wouldn’t be extremely wrong the way you had it - when people speak, they sometimes forget to include a piece of information anyway, so if you just slapped it at the end it would still be understandable, even while not sounding the best it could.

I never learned this TE KA MO LO thing myself it was just a more natural Progression where I slowly realized what sounds best where after hearing it said a thousand times in a certain way

[foggy cave]

I know what you mean, it was the same for me with English, but I came across it relatively early in German learning and has been useful to know

[gaunt smelt]

Does anybody know what "PS" stands for here and what about the A and B do they mean anything?

[wise pendant]

Further context?

[gaunt smelt]

I'm trying to fill this information box on a B1 Pruefung but don't know what that stands for

Other than that idk what to say

[ornate shuttle]

(Sich an etw.jem. gewöhnen)

Z.b. ich habe mich an eine Tasse Kaffee jeden Tag trinken gewöhnt

Ist dieses Beispiel richtig oder nicht??

[wise pendant]

Seems to me like some kind of number. But honestly no clue

[wise pendant]

Noch nicht ganz

[ornate shuttle]

kannst du mir erklären,wo der fehler ist

[wise pendant]

Ich glaube, wenn du einen Nebensatz als Objekt benutzt braucht du "daran" und zu-Infinitiv. Mehr kann ich dir nicht sagen

[ornate shuttle]

Danke für alles:-)

[ornate shuttle]

Ich bin eine tasse Kaffee gewohnt, Tägliche zu trinken.

Diese Form ist richtig???

[wise pendant]

Ne
"Ich bin daran gewöhnt, täglich eine Tasse Kaffee zu trinken."

[ornate shuttle]

Danke für deine Hilfe ( ◜‿◝ )♡

[foggy cave]

Hallo alle! According to Deepl at least, the equivalent of “That made me laugh” is “Das hat mich zum Lachen gebracht”
I see the nominalised verb being fairly reasonable, but is that the only way to convert to German that use of the verb “to make”?

It sounds formal, but then again I’m not that trained yet to trust my own perception of formality in German

[fervent kernel]

Das wirst du durch Nomen-Verb Verbindungen lernen.
Bsp: jmd zum Lachen bringen (make someone laugh), etwas zum Laufen bringen (make something to run/work/...). Time to time by learning you can remember and get used to them. Umgangssprachlich (informal) you can actually convert to what you understand and describe it word by word.

[fervent kernel]

Ich liebe die Bücher von Érico

Is this sentence right?

[radiant comet]

yes

[charred harbor]

To more specifically answer your question, it's left to right ;)

(Sorry, couldn't help myself)

[fervent kernel]

🤯

[fervent kernel]

hey, does "sehr ledig" mean something like "with pleasure"? idk if i heard it wrong though

[fervent kernel]

No, it has another meaning. Ledig = unmarried, sehr = very
But sehr ledig sounds weird to me 🤪. Never heard!

Lol i had to ask my boss to sign something for me at work and that's what he said (or what i thought he said)

Remains a mystery 😄

[wise pendant]

He probably said "erledigt!"

meaning "Done!"

[fervent kernel]

Stimmt 👍

Hahaha yes stimmt

Thankss

[shut briar]

Is there a word in german for a person who refuses to take responsibility? Maybe for their life and stuff, blaming others?

[dusty shard]

well, the word for selfish would be 'egoistisch'

if thats the answer youre looking for

[shut briar]

Egoistisch could work but it's a bit generic

Tbh i can't think of a word in English either

[dusty shard]

yeah

its really difficult

we'd also use 'selbstverliebt' which is just an adjective meaning in love with themselves

[silent tide]

immature?

[dusty shard]

oh then the german word is kindisch

childish if translated

[shut briar]

Well the person who does that can be described as immature because of that, but it's not direct... you could be immature for a lot of reasons. I feel there has to be a word for that in German, for the colourful language it is

But yeah if i don't find anything, immature is probably the best

Maybe i can use it in a verb form

Someone who deflects responsibility

[dusty shard]

should work

[shut briar]

Ablenken vs abwenden?

[dusty shard]

ablenken = distract abwenden= a mix of denying and reflecting i forgot the word (abwenden is turn away etc)

[shut briar]

No like i mean in this context

Which sounds more natural

[shut briar]

Both have deflect as one of meanings

[dusty shard]

weird... abwenden

abwenden is in my opinion more natural

[shut briar]

Yeah deepl also says ablenken

[shut briar]

I'll use it then

[dusty shard]

:)

[shut briar]

Thanks for helping me solve this problem

[dusty shard]

youre welcome

good luck

[long whale]

If nobody else came up with anything, maybe you could use "der Drückeberger" (shirker), and to shirk responsibility = sich vor Verantwortung drücken ;)

Neither ablenken nor abwenden would work, though.

[shut briar]

I really like this word Susana but can we use it in this context? I assumed a shirker was someone who wouldn't take responsibility for a task, I am looking for more like Not accepting fault and deflecting it onto other things

[topaz pond]

Something I've been wanting to ask about.

I've been studying German for years, and I've made a great amount of progress, but it still feels like a foreign language to me. Particularly when I come across a word I'm not familiar with, when it comes to English, I can usually use context clues to get an idea of what the word is meant to mean, but when it comes to German, that's less so the case, when it comes to a word or term in German my mind isn't familiar with, my mind tends to drift off, unsure of what to do with it.

Does anyone else have this struggle?

And if anyone has had this struggle and worked it out, is there anything in particular you did that helped?

[long whale]

That would be something like "er sucht den Fehler nie bei sich", "er schiebt seine Fehler immer anderen in die Schuhe" (jemandem etwas in die Schuhe schieben = to shift the blame onto someone else), I'd say. :)

[rotund viper]

I learning German at home and I am now using a1.1 Menschen, AND my target is B2
Should I get deep in the possible meaning of every words ( verb , adj , noun...) , O r just keep it simple and wait ...
for example ;
The word " Die Meinung ":

*der Meinung sein(, dass ...)
*(mit jmdm.) einer Meinung sein
*jmds. Meinung nach
*zu etw(dat).eine Meinung haben
Methode 2: simple methode
Die Meinung = Opinion
+Beispiele
Or
Methode 2:simple Methode
Meinung = opinion

[wise pendant]

Method 2 would be preferable. On top of that you should read and listen alot to real world German.

But learning every word you should atleast add the article to it Everytime to strengthen that connection in your mind
As you do in method. 2

[rotund viper]

Yes , but aren't they essentials these words ?

[wise pendant]

Uses of a word will be so numerous and complex that you should give your brain enough input to figure it out on its own

You just need to actively push yourself to the stage of being able to understand

More or less

[near folio]

Agree with Andre. There is no benefit with memorising all those constructions if you can't associate it with an idea, a meaning, or way of expressing something. Sure, you should actively learn some basic vocabulary at the beginning, but general exposure to German is more important for your brain to develop a natural feeling and understanding of the language.

[heavy viper]

Hello I encountered myself with this sentence, but I'm wondering if the "das" is a typo or a construction: Teilweise machten das die Wissenschaftler nach ihm etwas anders, deshalb ist es sehr schwierig, sich zu orientieren.

[long whale]

Why would it be a typo? "das" is the direct object (Akkusativobjekt) here. :)

[heavy viper]

😮 , etwas anders refers to das, right? i thought etwas was the object

[mellow nova]

the scientists did it (das) a little differently (etwas anders)

etwas can mean like 'somewhat'

[bronze sonnet]

can I use "mit" to describe agreement with a political party?

for example "Ich bin mit SPD". would this be a correct way to state "I support the SPD" without sounding super clunky?

[swift bough]

I‘m not sure about mit but I know you can say „Ich bin für die SPD/dafür“

[bronze sonnet]

damn my pun wont work then

[swift bough]

dafür sein = to be in favor of sth

[bronze sonnet]

sad

[swift bough]

Oof

[solid hull]

share it anyway, bin jetzt neugierig

[bronze sonnet]

okay so the idea was

I dont like people with NPD

with being both meaning "in support of the NPD"

and "with narcisistic personality disorder"

and the joke was someone getting mad likr "what do uou have against NPD????", but they reslly meant the party in Germany which is good to dislike bc they are self identified n@zis

[solid hull]

lol, and how would you have worded that in German

Ich hasse Leute mit NPD?

[bronze sonnet]

ich hasse leute die mit NPD sein

the joke is kinda hard to formst

ngl its hsrd to format in English

[solid hull]

i c

I doubt that'd be the acronym for that in German tho

[bronze sonnet]

actually good point

[solid hull]

unless they use the English acronym, which why wouldn't they smh lol

[bronze sonnet]

NPS

ghe joke would only work in engoush then bc NPD is used for botj

[little topaz]

can past participle of a verb be used as an adjective?
(1783 gebauten Hof-> farm built in 1783)

[mellow nova]

that is the most common construction of adjectives yea

[little topaz]

ooo ok thx

[mellow nova]

verletzen - to hurt
verletzt - hurt (adj)
verletzend - hurting (adj)

same in english, of course

[jaunty monolith]

Benutzen ihr persönlich und Leute, die ihr kennt diese Redewendung im Alltag? Oder ist sie eher altmodisch? Und lohnt es sich, sie in mein Vokabular aufzunehmen? https://www.instagram.com/language.coach.leipzig/tv/CY8v8M6IxtU/?utm_medium=copy_link

[half arch]

Mein Vater benutzt sie, ich persönlich nicht

[fervent kernel]

What's the way to say literally the way it's used in English? buchstäblich sounds wrong

Like to say "I'm literally the one who gave it to you"

[near folio]

Was würdest du denn dafür sagen?

[fervent kernel]

Buchstäblich wäre aber richtig

Benutzt zwar keiner Aber es wäre richtig

Und was Benutzt man?

[half arch]

naja, es ist ein ausdruck der empörung... also etwas anderes in dieser art

[half arch]

Buchstäblich oder Wortwörtlich

[fervent kernel]

Genau

Aber Wortwörtlich sagt halt a keiner

[near folio]

Ich glaube, du würdest literally nicht übersetzen, sondern das ich stärker betonen:

ICH habe es dir gegeben.

[half arch]

das geht auch

[fervent kernel]

Yo

[jaunty monolith]

Was würdest du denn stattdessen sagen?

[half arch]

naja, es ist ein ausdruck der empörung... also etwas anderes in dieser art

[jaunty monolith]

Oder sogar deine Freunde?

[jaunty monolith]

Alles klar! Was wären dann einige konkrete Beispiele?

[half arch]

man könnte sagen "Das geht doch nicht!" oder "Das kann er doch nicht machen!"

oder einfach nur "WAS?"

[near folio]

NANI

[jaunty monolith]

Danke!

[foggy cave]

Heute habe ich diesen Satz geschrieben: "Alles sieht schwierig aus, erst man es versucht"
Musste ich bis wenn benutzen, statt von erst?

[silent tide]

erst ist richtig

[wise pendant]

nope

[wise pendant]

"bis" brauchst du hier

Weder "bis wenn" noch "erst" passen hier

[foggy cave]

Vielen Dank

[whole karma]

How would you say "the wall is painted in white" ?

@wise pendant

[wise pendant]

"Die Wand ist weiß angestrichen"

[whole karma]

Could we also use gemalt ?

[wise pendant]

I wouldn't

but you would be understood, sure

[hushed spade]

understood*

[supple river]

Is there a way to ask people in German if you can use "du" with them? Like in Spanish you say "¿Podemos tutearnos?" which means "Can we use the tú form with each other?" If so, could the German translation be put here? Thank you!

[scenic drift]

duzen and siezen are the terms you want

(duzen - to address with du; siezen - to address with Sie)

"Können wir uns duzen?"

[mellow nova]

are you allowed to do that? I thought you just had to wait for the older/higher position person to call you du

[scenic drift]

there's a lot of other ways to do that, as well

[scenic drift]

yes what i was just about to mention is that you'd only offer this if you're the person who's in the 'higher' position 😅

[supple river]

Was? You can't just ask somebody? You have to have some sort of authority?

[scenic drift]

mmhm

here is an article for you to read :) https://www.dw.com/en/the-du-sie-dilemma-in-german/a-16494631

the good example there being an employee relationship - your boss can ask you for your relationship to switch to 'du', but you cannot suggest the same to your boss

[supple river]

What if it's between you and an acquaintance or a friend etc.? Is that an exception?

[scenic drift]

in practice what i'd recommend there is let them suggest when to switch :)

[shut briar]

I want to say the following

The lottery of Babylon is about, well, a lottery in Babylon

Is there a word that functions similarly to well here

[half arch]

"naja"

[shut briar]

Oh of course, stupid question

[half arch]

there are no stupid questions

[shut briar]

Well, then where would it fit?

Die Lotterie von Babylon handelt von einer Lotterie in Babylon

[half arch]

Die Lotterie von Babylon handelt von... naja, einer Lotterie in Babylon (halt).

halt is optional

[shut briar]

Halt as in pause after saying?

[half arch]

as a word

you just put "halt" at the end of the sentence

[shut briar]

Ach so, that's new

What's the purpose of it

[half arch]

I think it just makes the answer sound more ... naturally?

i guess

you dont have to use it, tho

[shut briar]

Aah ok

I'd rather not until i've heard it a few times

Thanks again

[half arch]

sure

[little tree]

What's the difference between a verb that means "to be ..." and just "sein ..." For example sich verspäten vs sein spät

[pure oriole]

Was mache ich? "mich verspäten" (verb)
Was bin ich "ich bin spät" (adjektiv)

[fervent kernel]

can you say "ich gebe dich auf" to mean " i give up on you" like you stop bothering helping someone

[pure oriole]

ja

[little tree]

So is it intent or fault? Like if some guy was late because their car broke down, it would be "er war spät" but if he was late because he took the long way to work it would be "er verspätet sich"?

[shut briar]

What's a normal thing to say when you're coming back to a point

Like you say a lot of stuff, then end with, "but ya that's how it works"

How would you say that but ya in german?

[sly ferry]

aber ja

[pure oriole]

es wäre beim ersten mal "er hat sich verspätet weil sein auto kaput war" beim 2. "er war zu spät weil er den langen weg genommen hat"

[dusty shard]

'Und deswegen' for example
'And thats why'
Or and thats how it works would be
'And so funktioniert das/geht das'

[heavy viper]

in this sentence: "Anfangs waren der Fantasie keine Grenzen gesetzt". I understand the subject is Grenzen, but fantasie being in genitiv means that setzen can take genitiv?

[mellow nova]

etw (dat) Grenzen setzen - set limits to smth

[weak river]

Will ein Muttersprachler mit mit Deutschen lernen und sprechen?

[pallid gyro]

Wird 'He applied for the position of accountant' mit 'Er hat sich um die Stelle eines Buchhalters beworben' übersetzt, oder benutzt man stattdessen 'des Buchhalters'?

[foggy cave]

Man benutz „als”, ich glaube

Zb. „Ich möchte mich um die Stelle als Verkäufer bewerben”

[pallid gyro]

@foggy cave Wird das eindeutig? z.B., meinem Verständnis zufolge, das könnte so klingen, als ob man für dieselbe Stelle vielleicht mit einem anderen Beruf bewerben könnte

[foggy cave]

Wenn man sich bei einer bestimmten Firma bewirbt, glaube ich dass kein Missverständnis möglich ist

[pallid gyro]

@foggy cave zur Kenntnis genommen, vielen Dank!

[long whale]

"des Buchhalters". If you use "als", you can drop "die Stelle": Er hat sich [bei Firma X] als Buchhalter beworben. :)

@foggy cave

[pallid gyro]

achsooo, super Danke schön!!!

[foggy cave]

Oh, echt? Wusste es nicht. Danke!

[agile stream]

hallo, was ist die unterschieden zwischen the section : questions and questions-2 ?

[fervent kernel]

if someones already in #questions u can use this channel

or better said, if the channels busy

[agile stream]

niemand ist hier; aber ich werde meine frage bleiben

man sagt : ich habe A1 niveau ? oder ich habe niveau A1 ?

danke im voraus

[autumn marsh]

depends, if you have a certificate or something i'd say "Ich habe ein Zertifikat für Niveau A1", if it's just about your general skill, i'd say: "Ich bin auf Niveau A1"

[proven sphinx]

"Ich bin auf A1-Niveau" sollte doch auch gehen.

[velvet scroll]

"Ich mag die Farbe Grün." does that translate to "I like the color green" properly?

[civic totem]

Yes

[velvet scroll]

how abt this
"You can buy clothes at the department store." does it translate to "Sie können Kleidung im Kaufhaus kaufen." grammaticly

[frail hemlock]

hello. may i ask, how do you say ´the more you know´ in german ?

[civic totem]

Yes it is correct. But if you say "Sie könnnen..." you are very polite. If you want to talk to someone you know you would rather say "Du kannst Kleidung im Kaufhaus kaufen."

[civic totem]

je mehr du weißt

[frail hemlock]

oh thanks !

[sly ferry]

@frail hemlock do note that this is just the literal translation and not the saying nobody will ever use that in German
I don't think there's an idiomatic translation

[frail hemlock]

omg

so what would someone say?

[velvet scroll]

is "Ja, das Kaufhaus hat eine große Auswahl" grammatically correct
it should translate to "Yes, the department store has a large selection"

[civic totem]

Yes thats correct

[sly ferry]

Nothing, like I said, I don't think there's an idiomatic way to say that in German, the phrase simply doesn't exist

[frail hemlock]

oh fairs

[charred harbor]

How about “Man lernt nie aus”?

[frail hemlock]

thank u for ur input btw !

[sly ferry]

Oh yeah that's actually not bad

[charred harbor]

Hehe

Well it’s not a literal translation obviously

[velvet scroll]

@sly ferry sorry abt the ping
can you confirm if the questions i asked before are correct? im skeptical

[sly ferry]

They are correct yeah

[velvet scroll]

thanks

[heavy viper]

weisst ihr was "

heisst "Windows rödelt ewig"

[sly ferry]

tts en rödeln

[stoic mauve]

:x: You must be connected to a voice channel to use the play command.

[sly ferry]

Eh

Am I stupid

lk en rödeln

[stoic mauve]

Translations for rödeln:

**:small_blue_diamond:** rödeln *[ugs.]* *[hart* *arbeiten,* *rackern]*

beaver away [coll.]

[sly ferry]

There we go

[heavy viper]

😮 thanks i could only find sledding as a meaning

[sly ferry]

That's rodeln without the umlaut, remember umlauts are not optional 😅

[heavy viper]

in this sentence Da ich ein Fan von Programm-Launchern bin, hole ich mir immer noch Wox dazu. what is the meaning of hole ich mir ... dazu ?
does that mean that he "uses" wox? or that he "installs" wox? and why immer noch .-.

[faint shadow]

Holen is generally to get something. In that context it's something like "i'll also download". Immer noch is used as "also" (as in "i always get Wox as well")

[wise pendant]

rödeln is colloquially used for idle/computing times in computers

no idea why, for me it just has that one meaning

[ornate shuttle]

Positionsverben + Wechselpräposition + Dativ
Z.b.
Der Teddy sitzt auf dem Boden.
Der Teddy liegt auf dem Boden.
Der Teddy steht auf dem Boden.
Der Teddy hängt an der Leine.

Richtungsverben + Akkusativ + Wechselpräposition + Akkusativ
Z.b.

Tomm setzt den Teddy auf den Boden.
Selma legt den Teddy auf den Boden.
Nina stellt den Teddy auf den Boden.
Mahmud hängt den Teddy auf die Leine.

Wo?(Position) /Wohin?(Richtung)
sitzen /setzen
liegen /legen
stehen/ stellen
hängen/ hängen

ist das richtig,Leute??????
@long whale

[shut briar]

I have noticed, a lot of phrases that would use possessive pronouns in English or in my language, but uses 'mir' in German

One example is

Es liegt mir auf der Zunge

How do you perceive these?

I find it difficult to make sense of them

[worldly portal]

Make sense of the phrase?

It's on ~~the ~~tip of ~~my ~~the tongue

[shut briar]

Yeah ik the meaning, but use of mir is confusing to me

[worldly portal]

Mir is a 1. Person pronoun in Dative (ich / mich / mir)
Liegen makes it Dative

I find phrases / proverbs like these are best to not think too hard about

Since they don't always make sense

[long whale]

Yup, congratulations! 💐

[slim yew]

why does oft come first then hierher

its seemingly random

[autumn marsh]

https://www.fluentu.com/blog/german/german-sentence-structure/

tl;dr: natural german word order

your version would be understood but it definitely sounds wrong.

[heavy viper]

In this sentence : Jetzt geht es über Bonn, Köln und Wuppertal mitten ins Herz des Ruhrgebiets. what does geht es über ... in mean???

[brittle acorn]

you pass the other cities on your way to the destination

[long whale]

Here: über = via :)

[fervent kernel]

When using the preposition per, it is stated in dict.cc that it uses both dative and accusative, any difference in the meaning if I use one case not the other?

[long whale]

Präposition (mit Akkusativ, meist mit Nomen ohne erkennbaren Kasus) (source: https://www.dwds.de/wb/per) And really, at your level, shouldn't you be using DWDS, anyway? ;)

[fervent kernel]

Apologies for being lazy 😳

[mellow nova]

why not?

oh I read that wrong my bad

[shut briar]

Schon sorgfältig

What does schon do here

[long whale]

It's being used as a modal particle here, for emphasis. "Er hat das schon sorgfältig gemacht" = He did do it carefully.

[shut briar]

Is it possible to to this in imperative? A character said it but it was dubbing so i want to be sure

A teacher was drawing an alphabet on the blackboard when she said this

Thanks for the DWDS tip too, i was worried about not using it, not knowing how

[long whale]

Are you sure it wasn't "Schön sorgfältig!" - ? Because that's quite common. "schon" is used in imperative, yes, most commonly in commands like "Nun geh schon!", "Nun mach schon!", "Nun komm schon!" (Do go/come on; Hurry up) :)

[shut briar]

You might be right, it didn’t have subtitles and my ear can’t differentiate the sounds very well

So what does schön make it

[long whale]

I think you'd say something like "Nice and carefully" in English. Modal particles are often hard to translate, sometimes it's even impossible. The good news is: they just kind of flavour the sentence, softening or emphasizing it, they don't really change its meaning. :)

[shut briar]

They are tough, i find them hard to explain too, but your translation gives me an idea.

Thanks

[ornate shuttle]

ich rede mit Leuten per App,die Discord heißt

Per+Dativ oder Akk????
Ist dieser Satz richtig?

[errant smelt]

Hallo können Sie mir helfen, wann kann ich benutzen dativ und akkusativ

[civic totem]

"Ich rede mit Leuten per einer app, die Discord heißt.

I think per comes with Akk, but I am not sure

[ornate shuttle]

Ok,danke für deine Mühe

[mental furnace]

Hallo Leute, ich habe manche wirklich wichtige Frage. Ich hoffe, dass sie mir helfen. Was ist unterschied zwischen „Machen,unternehmen,erledigen“ ? ich fühle mich sehr zufrieden wenn sie mir helfen. 😊

[icy flax]

Habe hier nur die ersten Bedeutungen kopiert, die nicht ugs. sind. Das ,,unternehmen" scheint diesen Aspekt von Plannen zu haben, wohingegen ,,erledigen" nicht. Dieses deutet eher auf das Ende einer Verhandlung hin. Zu guter Last steht das ,,machen" als eines der am allgemeinsten Verben der deutschen Sprache (schau dir mal wie viele Bedeutungen sind da ||18!!!||).

1. unternehmen: etw. planen, beginnen und durchführen, etw. machen, tun https://www.dwds.de/wb/unternehmen
2. erledigen: eine Aufgabe zu Ende führen, ausführen, durchführen https://www.dwds.de/wb/erledigen
3. machen: das quasi allgemeine Verb für viele Situationen geeignet https://www.dwds.de/wb/machen

[mental furnace]

Vielen Dank 🤩

[delicate tiger]

Please ask only in one channel

[celest pollen]

es tut mir leid

[ornate shuttle]

Ich würde gern mich von Ihnen verabschieden

@long whale dieser Satz ist Richtig ??

[long whale]

Not quite. mich before gern :)

[ornate shuttle]

Und der Rest des Satzes ist Richtig,oder????

Danke wieder**:-)**

[placid torrent]

Hey könnte das einer bisschen gehobener formulieren? "angebotsorientierte Wirtschaftspolitik. Durch ein günstiges Angebot können mehr Kunden angelockt werden und es kann herumerzählt werden, sodass die immer mehr Leute zugreifen und dementsprechend steigt die Nachfrage und die Unternehmen profitieren"

[delicate tiger]

"herumerzählen" passt nicht wirklich

[long whale]

Günstige Angebote locken mehr Kunden an. Es spricht sich herum, sodass immer mehr Leute zugreifen. Dadurch steigt die Nachfrage, wovon wiederum das Unternehmen profitiert.

[icy flax]

Oke, diese ist vom Weitem die faulste Frage je von mir hier gestellt. Ich hab schon ein bisschen im Netz nachgeschlagen, allerdings nichts gefunden. Ich lese gerade über Veganismus und dieser Begriff kommt oft im Text "die Gießener vegetarische Lebensmitellpyramide". Ich kann nicht finden, woher das "Gießener" kommt. Wenn jemand da zufälligerweise davon weiß, bitte, beleuchte mich. Könnte es iwie mit der Stadt Gießen zu tun haben?!

[sly rose]

Gießener werden Leute genannt, die aus der Stadt Gießen kommen, du hattest also Recht. Das ist die einzige Definition, die mir bekannt ist. :)

[long whale]

*... bitte erleuchte/t mich (beleuchten is to literally throw a light on something; jemanden erleuchten = to enlighten someone ;)

[long whale]

And here you go: https://www.forum-ernaehrung.at/artikel/detail/news/detail/News/vegan-ohne-mangel-die-giessener-lebensmittelpyramide/

@icy flax

[fervent kernel]

i once made the same exact mistake as well and used beleuchten instead of erleuchten. The people i talked to were just... stunned haha 😂

[icy flax]

:( i read it could b used bildlicherweise. Well... Okay, thank you, Susana!!! (:

[long whale]

Well, yes, you can figuratively throw a light on some topic - beleuchten. That's probably what misled you. :)

[gaunt smelt]

Hey guys which one is right "Er sah zu, wie die Strömung die Herbstblätter mit sich riss." or "Er sah zu, als die Strömung die Herbstblätter mit sich riss."

[long whale]

Both are possible, but with wie it's either temporal or modal (he was watching the way/while/as the current was carrying away the autumn leaves), with als it's temporal (he was watching when/at the time...). Does that help?

tl;dr With als it's specifically that one time in the past, with wie he might have been doing it every year, but it's emphasizing that he was watching the event.

[karmic cobalt]

Guys im learning German on Duolingo and is it good? like is there a better way to learn it?

[long whale]

See faq Duolingo in #botchannel :)

[karmic cobalt]

everything is in faq right? xDD

[long whale]

No, just the answers to extremely frequently asked questions. :D

[karmic cobalt]

:D

[tall hull]

hab ne Frage: wie sagt man auf deutsch "to be considered a friend"?
für einen Freund gehalten werden?
als ein Freund gelten?

gibt es einen noch besseren Ausdruck dafür?

[whole portal]

Hm

Those work

Als Freund wahrgenommen werden

[tall hull]

ok alles klar,
noch weitere Frage: wie ist mit " to bring sth to the table" (figurativ gemeint)
gibt es einen ähnlichen festen deutschen Ausdruck dafür?
oder einfach: etw auf den Tisch bringen

[long whale]

I'd say "Ich betrachte ihn als Freund" (I consider him a/my friend)

[long whale]

"etwas aufs Tapet bringen" :)

The only thing which occurs to me that has "Tisch" in it is "die Karten auf den Tisch legen" and that means something like "to be completely honest" :)

[whole portal]

Tapet?

Ich sehe ihn als meinen Freund an

[long whale]

Yup. https://www.dwds.de/wb/Tapet

[whole portal]

Noch nie gehört

[whole karma]

Was bedeutet "Anregung" ?

[wise pendant]

Vorschlag, Idee but more general in the sense of anything that comes to your mind in regards to something else

[wise pendant]

Though there is also another meaning, but in any case you can look them up by looking at dict.cc:
https://m.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Anregung.html

[whole karma]

Die kann auch Inspiration bedeuten oder ?

[wise pendant]

Mehr oder weniger

[whole karma]

Ok, Danke sehr !

[prime belfry]

Benutzt man immer das Verb “tippen” wenn jemand am Computer ist? Oder passt auch “schreiben”? ‘Cause in English people hardly ever use writing on the computer, so I was just curious if German did/didn’t do the same

Well they do use writing

But not as much as typing

[civic totem]

You can also use schreiben. Some people use tippen more often and some use schreiben more often.

[prime belfry]

Danke!

[tall hull]

was sind die festen Präpositionen für "Regeln"?
z.B Forderung nach etw = Demand for sth.
wie ist mit "Rules about sth"?
Regeln für, zu, über, in? which one is more commonly used?

[half arch]

In den meisten Fällen wird "für" benutzt. Also "Die Regeln für das Benutzen der Rutsche."

Wenn die Regeln nur an einem bestimmten Ort gelten (z.B. in einem Schwimmbad), kann man auch "hier" oder "in" benutzen. Also "Die Regeln hier sind ganz einfach."

[tall hull]

ok thanks that makes sense

now i need to confirm some grammars
ich gebe es ihm
ich gebe ihm ein Ding
ich gebe ihm das Ding
ich gebe es einer Person
ich gebe es der Person

stimmt das?

[long whale]

Yup.

[tall hull]

ich gebe einer Person ein Ding
ich gebe das Ding einer Person?

[half arch]

Ja

[tall hull]

alright! thanks

[heavy viper]

In this sentence: In der Politikwissenschaft geht es unter anderem um Staaten und Gemeinschaften, darum, wer etwas entscheiden kann.
What is the meaning of the "darum"? I don't get the second part uu

[tall hull]

es geht darum, dass...
in diesem fall: es geht darum, wer...

it is about...

[exotic cape]

Hello there everyone! I'm a bit stuck with writing in German, tried to be creative with diary and random stories, but it just doesn't seem to work for me... Does anyone have good suggestions?

[autumn marsh]

{In der Politikwissenschaft geht} es unter anderem um [Staaten und Gemeinschaften], (und) darum, [wer etwas entscheiden kann]

so it's about [politics (states + society)] and [who can decide] in {political science}

( ) is added by mean to make it clearer, the rest are the connectors or adverb

[heavy viper]

oh, i thought there was another meaning. Thanks for the erklärung 🙂

[autumn marsh]

personally i don't consider it well written, that sentence

sounds like speaken german. there it would make more sense, when you can make a pause

it's a little awkward to read imo

[sleek hemlock]

m

[chilly vine]

Hello Guys! I been learning german for 1 year now but I feel like sticking to these guides im being told isnt really helping, I feel like being able to relate to what im being taught will stay in my memory longer. Do you guys think by reading german articles and watching german movies could help me actually remember words im learning?

[scenic drift]

more exposure to german media can never be a bad thing :)

[chilly vine]

Danke @scenic drift

[woeful briar]

In this sentence, "Meine Tante verkauft teure Uhren und Schmuck an reiche Damen," are both Uhren and Damen in the Accusative? I tried to put "reichen" thinking Damen was Dative.
Is the "an" what should have tipped me off it was in the Accusative, if so?

[proven sphinx]

"teure Uhren und Schmuck" is the accusative object in this sentence, yes.

[thorny urchin]

analyze/dissect the sentence it goes as follows:
First the finite verb(s):

• Verkauft an
  Then the subjekt:
• wie oder was verkauft an?
  • Meine Tante = subjekt und subjekt ist immer in Nominativ (1e fall)
    Then the direct objekt (the Akkusativobjekt = always in the Akkusativ)
• wie oder was verkauft (an) meine Tante?
  • teure Uhren und Schmuck = Akkusativobjekt und Akkusativobjekt ist immer in Akkusativ

I hope this makes sense and I believe this to be correct but please do correct me if there is a mistake

[proven sphinx]

"an reiche Damen" is the prepositional object, but it's also in the accusative because it refers to a direction, since the goods change hands from one person to another.

[woeful briar]

So if I wrote it like this "My aunt sells the expensive watches and jewelry to the rich ladies." "Meine Tante verkauft die teuren Uhren und den Schmuck an die reichen Damen." does "the rich ladies" become Dative?

[proven sphinx]

Nope, it's still in the accusative. Just adding a definite article here doesn't change the case.

[woeful briar]

How can I make the rich ladies dative?

[proven sphinx]

Ich verkaufe den reichen Damen die teuren Uhren und den Schmuck.

It has to come first.

[woeful briar]

So word order does matter in German?

[proven sphinx]

Yes, it very much does. This isn't Latin, where you could place any word anywhere.

[thorny urchin]

Because then you can ask the question, to who/what do I sell the watches etc.

[proven sphinx]

jemandem etwas verkaufen

Ich verkaufe es an sie.
Ich verkaufe ihnen etwas.

[woeful briar]

okay, i'll work on this some more. Anything specific I should practice to get this down? I just failed my A2. Realized my declensions and cases are all messed up.

[proven sphinx]

Well, German grammar is complicated. I guess you just need lots of practice in that regard.

[woeful briar]

danke für Ihre Hilfe

[thorny urchin]

To be fair, the grammar you just did is B1/B2

According to studies, German grammar is best learned once you reach the B1/2 level, because only then can you actively grasp the abstract nature of it and work with it

[proven sphinx]

So do they actually mostly ignore grammar at A1 and A2 levels then?

[woeful briar]

Well I definitely needed declensions in the test. I also think I didn't practice the specific vocab for that course, I just took vocab I needed for my own life and ignored the rest.

[thorny urchin]

(Unfortunately) schools do not, but (according to theory) grammar would be best thought to a starting learning implicitly, meaning they would learn chunks of vocabulary that have grammar in it but they would not need to learn the rules and use the grammar based on rules.

This explicit form of learning/teaching grammar (explicit meaning: consciously explaining the rules of grammar) is best reserved for B1/2 onward OR when a learner asks about the rules themselves (There might be some exceptions for very basic grammar but I don't know everything in such detail)

this goes for learning a second language in general

I'll keep it at that as to not spam a chat that isn't supposed to be used for this

[scenic drift]

now im' curious what studies these are 🤔

because my experience with learning a new language recently was that by far the more effective route was learning grammar at A1/A2 and then picking up everything else from exposure (and the occasional check in a grammar book)...

[thorny urchin]

I will move this to the #languages tap

[swift bough]

I don’t think you can be B2 without having learned any grammar

B1 maybe

The jump from B1 to B2 is pretty big

Specifically because of the grammatical content

[thorny urchin]

I will habe learned Grammer but not by explicitly by learning rules but rather by learning combination of words that go together (known as a chunk). I also would say that you would start learning at B1, I should habe said that instead of B1/2

[swift bough]

Makes sense. Everyone learns differently, for me personally though it wasn’t really a problem to start with some grammar before B1

[mellow nova]

Some of the first things you should learn should be grammar. Nominative/Accusative, verb conjugations etc

[pearl swallow]

can someone help me with dialogue in German? I'm having a test tomorrow and I'm having trouble writing dialogue on how things do/don't please you. Can someone explain how this is wrong and what I've should've put 😭

[candid nebula]

S1: In den Ferien waren wir in Berlin (this one is without movement though. with movement: "In den Ferien sind wir nach Berlin gefahren/gegangen")
S2: Wie hat es euch gefallen?
S1: Es hat uns nicht (gut <-optional) gefallen

[pearl swallow]

thank you so much 😭 could you help me with another one?

[candid nebula]

sure

[pearl swallow]

I really don't know what I'm doing in German at the moment and I'm trying to relearn/understand what I'm trying to do lol

[candid nebula]

S1: In den Ferien war er in den Vereinigten Staaten
S2: Wie haben ihm die Vereinigten Staaten gefallen?
S1: Er hat gesagt: "Es war echt super" or Er hat gesagt, dass es echt super war (this is the most natural for me, but there is a third realy correct option:) Er hat gesagt, dass es echt super gewesen sei
But i think the last one is quite complicated and i got it probably wrong too xD
S2: Das ist furchtbar! (you said: "it was terrible!" but i think S2 wants to say "this is terrible")

[candid nebula]

for the first sentence: you can orientate on the english phrase "he went to the US"
translating this word by word gives you the correct answer of "er war in den V.S."
you wrote: "he was it in the united states" so you see how the (es) is unnecessary.

Also in english you put the time at the end of the sentence, so that might be the most natural for you. For me it sounds best if the time is at the beginning of the sentence in german

[pearl swallow]

OHHHHH THAT MAKES MORE SENSE LOL

and yes i usually put the time at the end of the sentence since its most natural for me

[candid nebula]

if you put the time in the front (as you prob. should) notice how "er" and "war" swap places:
"in den Ferien war er in den US"

[pearl swallow]

ohhhh i understand it better now

[heavy viper]

i jsut saw this comment on youtube , and i'm wondering if that "was" should be a "das" instead.

[mellow nova]

das/was can both be used as a relative pronoun for neuter objects (was can be used as the pronoun for other things too)

https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/WordOrder/relatives.html

[night dagger]

„was“ ist ein bisschen fauler, denke ich

[mellow nova]

yeah 'technically' das would be better here

Das Schönste, was es gibt
would be the most correct for 'was'

[heavy viper]

i think i saw that page before but I only remembered that "was" came after etwas, alles, ... usw. 🙂

[swift bough]

When people speak they will almost never use das in that kind of sentence though

I’ve asked about it before and most people think it sounds odd

But not like I asked all of Germany just a few people

Actually I think it’s more like that if you are referring back to „etwas“, not back to a noun

Like etwas … was

Yeah it is ignore that first part lel

[fervent kernel]

So I just started learning German today and I try to text my friend who was also learning and I messaged " Ich bin groß" because I thought groß translated to tall so does it not or does it. I need answers pls someone help :)

He said it means large that's why I'm confused

Yes it does

So the term Ich bin groß means I am tall?

Yes

So how would u say I am large

Ich bin groß

So the same thing

Yes pretty much

That's weird lol

It depends on context. When someone asks you, wie groß bist du? And you reply, ich bin 2,00m. Then he says, wow du bist groß

I understand groß

U said alot of words

I just started learning today

But you understand english right? I’ve been using english all the time tho…

Yes

[fervent kernel]

That means ‘’ wow youre tall’’

Gotcha

So wie is wow?

[heavy viper]

wie is how

[cold iris]

is "Es freut mich, mit Ihnen zu reden" a normal way to say something like "It's nice to talk to you"? I feel like the grammar might be off but im not sure

[swift bough]

Yes it’s grammatically correct and also normal to say, but just remember Ihnen is a formal pronoun

[cold iris]

yep. thanks for the help.

[steep glacier]

I’m posting this since questions 1 is busy, and I am really puzzled by this Übersetzung

Ich habe eine Frage:
Bedeutet “Hören Sie auf die Ansagen” “Stop the announcement” oder “Listen to the announcement”? Und Warum?

Danke!

[long whale]

to stop doing something: mit etwas (Dativ) aufhören vs. to listen to something: auf jemanden/etwas (Akk) hören.

[steep glacier]

Thanks, I think I understand. aufhören can have different meanings based on Dative vs Akkusative?

[long whale]

Ehh - based on a) the verb being separable or not and b) the prepositions used. :)

aufhören -> ich höre auf (I'm stopping) vs. hören + auf -> ich höre auf dich (I'm listening to you; I'm doing what you say)

[steep glacier]

Ok, I see. Then if that is the case, how would I say “I am stopping you” would you just have to use another verb, or use some prepositions? Thanks I appreciate it

[long whale]

"mit etwas aufhören" = to stop doing something. "jemanden/etwas aufhalten" = to stop somebody. (There are various other verbs for "to stop somebody", depending on whether they're in a car, or whether you want to stop them from doing something)

Example: My neighbour stopped me (because they wanted to tell me something, that's why I'm late): Mein Nachbar hat mich aufgehalten.

[steep glacier]

I see. This makes a bit more sense. I will probably just have to look up a lot more examples to get a completely solid idea of what aufhören means. Thanks so much by the way this discord is so helpful! Danke sehr!

[silent sentinel]

If it would be "aufhören", then "auf" would be in the end in this case - "hören Sie die Ansagen auf" (this is an example of a structure, I don't think that this sentence has a meaning). But it's not, and this means that it's "hören + auf".

[steep glacier]

Ok this makes way more sense. Is there any reason why auf is in the sentence? Couldn’t I just get rid of it then? Thanks

[silent sentinel]

I think "auf" slightly changes the meaning. But I'm not a native speaker and don't want to write what I think about it, since my guess can be wrong. But you definitely can write just "hören Sie die Ansagen", without "auf". The source - https://www.hueber.de/shared/elka/Internet_Muster/Red1/9783195019132_Muster_2.pdf

[steep glacier]

Thanks man. Greatly appreciated! I’ll look this over later

[pliant pelican]

I realy don’t understand what is the n-deklination is, how should ı use that

[foggy cave]

A small number of masculine nouns follow a different deklination. A good example of it is Elefant, but also Name, Lieferant etc.
A special among specials is Herz, which is messed up.
They're more or less 25 nouns overall, so nothing impossible, you just need to memorize them.

Also Student is one of the most important

[pliant pelican]

Yes we use student in class.ı should memorise the word ı guess

[foggy cave]

As a rule of thumb, they add -en to every case which is not nominativ

zB.
Das Gewicht des Elefanten ist riesig

[jaunty monolith]

Wie sagt man "I completely tune out in our team/company calls"?

[tough rock]

Ich schalte bei unseren Teamanrufen komplett ab

[jaunty monolith]

Danke!

[vernal glacier]

Wie sagt man '' I hope so, I think so''?

[fallen galleon]

Ich hoffe so, Ich denke so

[vernal glacier]

dankee

[shut briar]

In einem Film das ich sah

I wish i could fight war

Ich wünschte dass ich kämpfen könnte

Warum ist wünschen k2?

Wäre das nicht I would wish i could fight

[tall hull]

wenn ich sage: "meine Erzeihung", heißt das:

1. wie ich ein Kind erziehe
   oder
2. wie ich erzogen wurde?

[shut briar]

Zweite

[flat ivy]

"Mein Vater hofft, dass ich diesen Monat in die Turkei fliege"

shouldn't it be diesem instead?

[proven sphinx]

No, because it's in the accusative case.

[flat ivy]

why is it akkusativ can you open it up a bit?

[mellow nova]

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Zeit/Time.html

'Some Rules for ADverbial Time Phrases' read that part

[flat ivy]

"1) Definite time expressions without prepositions are in the accusative" 👍

[worldly portal]

Surprisingly helpful site, thanks

[flat ivy]

This channel has lots of resources available. Check out #resources and #botchannel 👍

[long whale]

*Ich hoffe es/Das hoffe ich, Ich denke schon/Ich glaube schon @vernal glacier :)

[long whale]

Both/Either, depending on context. :)

[long whale]

It's the way the verb is used in German. You can either use it reflexively (sich etwas/jemanden wünschen): Ich wünsche mir ein Auto, Du wünschst Dir, mehrere Sprachen zu sprechen - those are wishes which could conceivably be fulfilled, by your parents, or by hard work. And then, there are hypothetical wishes, whishful thinking: Ich wünschte, ich hätte ein Auto (when you realize you'll have to wait for 2 hours for a bus) OR Ich wünschte, ich könnte fliegen OR Ich wünschte, alle Menschen wären glücklich. So, yes, ich wünschte is indeed like "I would wish [if it were possible, which it isn't]". :)

[heavy viper]

is it DIE Berliner Philharmoniker? or der, das? what's the noun in this case?

[night dagger]

der Artikel ist "die".

[heavy viper]

but what is the noun? I mean i looked up in pons and it says that philharmoniker can be masc or fem.
In spanish is "la filarmónica"(fem) because the complete name is "la orquesta filarmónica" with orquesta being a female noun.
but Orchester is das in german .-.

[night dagger]

die Berliner Philharmoniker - genau so, wie du es gesagt hast

[mellow nova]

their confusion is that Philharmoniker (and Berliner) is masculine so why is it die

[night dagger]

ich würde vermuten, dass es Plural ist, aber ich kenne dieses Wort nur aus einem Buch

[fervent kernel]

So the German word "Mann" does it mean Husband Or Man?

Very confuses

Confused*

[mellow nova]

it's the same in english

This is a man vs this is my man

[fervent kernel]

Oh so it's context based?

I'm guessing same with frau meaning both woman and wite

Wife

[mellow nova]

if you're using a possessive before it it is clearly your SO

mein Mann vs ein Mann

[fervent kernel]

Ohhh

So mein mann means my husband where as to ein mann just means a man?

Gotcha

So how would u say my man?

[mellow nova]

?

[fervent kernel]

Like just if u were to say "he's my man"

[mellow nova]

Not really understanding what you're asking

[fervent kernel]

Like Mein Mann means my husband

What if u wanted to say my man

Not my husband

[mellow nova]

Maybe it's too late for me idk I'll let someone else answer that bc I really have no idea what you're asking 😅

[mighty pebble]

Well

Husband

Means Ehemann

And man

Mann

[mellow nova]

mein Mann definitely means husband as well :)

[feral rivet]

do you mean like buddy/mate? That would be Kumpel (Kollege, depending on region), I'd say

[fervent kernel]

is it like he's ma mannn ?

[last tusk]

der Praktikum means practice
but Ich mache Praktikum means intership
and
Ich mache Ausbildung means practice

is that correct or i understand something wrong??

[fervent kernel]

no Praktikum means internship

Übung means practice

[last tusk]

thanks

[mellow nova]

Praxis also means practice but a different type

and Ausbildung is like an apprenticeship

[fervent kernel]

Praxis is like doctors Practice; also in der Praxis means in practice

Übung is like, Mathe übung, math practice

Ausbildung ist apprenticeship, yea

Praktikum is internship

[shut briar]

Aah klar it does have that "would wish if that were possible " sense

This movie actually had both versions and from what you explained it makes sense cause later he got a genie with whom the wish was possible

Danke!

[last tusk]

i mean practice like u go to workplace and learn what and how to do things there
and internship i mean you go to the workplace and work but without payment

thanks for answers

[mellow nova]

That's not called practice as far as I know. But what you're looking for is 'Ausbildung machen'

[last tusk]

oh

[fervent kernel]

yea

[fluid rose]

So duolingo says that "Schade" means "too bad", is it meant in a symathetic/positive way or a negative/rude way

[icy flax]

Schade = what a pity

Most of the time I hear people using it in a friendly way, showing empathy, but when someone complains about sth rather tiny, then you could hear a rude "ah.. Wiiiie schade, du armer"

[ornate shuttle]

ich finde,Hunde sollten nicht in der Stadt leben.
Was meinst du???

-Meiner Meinung nach sollten Hunde auch nicht darin leben

Leute, stimmt das??????

[long whale]

It's... theoretically correct. I mean, you have the right idea, as far as "darin" is concerned. However, with a city, we wouldn't say it like that, since it's more like "inside of...". We'd say "Meiner Meinung nach sollten Hunde auch nicht dort leben" :)

[ornate shuttle]

Ich bedanke mich sehr bei dir( ◜‿◝ )♡( ◜‿◝ )♡

[fluid rose]

vielen dank!!

[ornate shuttle]

Wie kann ich benutzen??
zwar........**,**aber.........

Der Mann ist zwar alt,aber er ist gesund

Zwar Arabisch ist Meine Muttersprache,aber ich finde sie so schwer
@long whale
Sind diese Sätze richtig?

[long whale]

1st one is fine. Think about word order in the 2nd. :)

Hint: verb must be in 2nd position. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Meine Muttersprache ist zwar Arabisch,aber ich finde sie so schwer

????

[long whale]

Well.... word order is now correct, but you'd either say "Zwar ist Arabisch..." OR "Arabisch ist zwar..." :) And so sehr

[ornate shuttle]

Ich versuche noch mal

Zwar ist das zimmer klein,aber es ist gemütlich

Zwar habe ich die Kaffeemaschine neu gekauft,aber sie ist schon kaputt

diese zwei Sätze sind richtig,oder🙄

[long whale]

Yes, very good. 💐 *Ich versuche es nochmal :)

This is a bit nitpicky, but in German (and English), there's always a space/Leerzeichen after a comma: gekauft, aber

Instead of gekauft,aber

[ornate shuttle]

Danke wieder❤️

[ornate shuttle]

es steht für was hier ((ich versuche es nochmal)??

[long whale]

The verb "versuchen" requires a direct object in German. Since you don't want to repeat what it is you want to try again, you replace the direct object by "es". :)

[ornate shuttle]

Danke, alles klar jetzt

[long whale]

... except for the space/Leerzeichen after the comma. :D

[ornate shuttle]

Ok🙏☺️

Da habe ich gemacht

[long whale]

Super! 💃 Thank you so much! :D

[fluid rose]

So i learned the word: gegenseitig
and im a bit skeptical on how to use it.

For example, if someone says "good luck on the test", and you say gegenseitig, is it a substitute for saying "good luck on the test to you too"? Is it like in english someone would say "you too"?

does gegenseitig even mean that

because im not sude

sure*

[long whale]

No, it doesn't. gegenseitig = mutual/ly

"same to you" = gleichfalls :)

[icy flax]

Wie stehen die Chancen dafür, dass ein Deutscher Ende 50, der seit 3 Jahrzehnten nicht mehr in Deutschland lebt, die Wörter "Schwurbler" und "Alman" kennt?

[long whale]

*Wie stehen die Chance dafür, dass ein Deutscher Ende 50, der... , die Wörter... kennt? (Come on, you can do better than that!)

[icy flax]

nicht wirklich hehe! Dass "was sind die Chance" und "in den späten 50er" falsch waren, wusste ich tatsächlich nt. hehe

[unique dune]

[icy flax]

also, ich hätte eine Vermutung dazu, dass er es nicht kennt, weil sie sehr sehr neu sind, aber ich werde ihn trotzdem fragen.

[fluid rose]

OH tysm!

[heavy viper]

in this sentence:
Man kann das aber auch etwas neutraler ansehen und spricht dann nur ***noch ***von Erstsprache, Zweitsprache, Drittsprache und so weiter.
does noch work like "even"?

[long whale]

It's more like "... and then you only (nur) talk about... anymore (noch)", I'd say. :)

[mellow nova]

is dann nur noch similar to dann doch noch

[long whale]

🤔 I don't think so, no. Once I've done X, Y and Z, there's only one thing left to do -> dann nur noch vs. I'd already done X, Y and Z, but then I found there was, after all, still one more thing to do -> dann doch noch

Meaning...?

[odd field]

welche ist richtig?
eine der wichtigsten Fragen,
(1) die zu klären sind
(2) die zu klären ist

[shut briar]

Zweite, du sprichst von nur einer Frage

[ornate shuttle]

Wie lange braucht man sich ans Essen in Deutschland zu gewöhnen??

Die Form von der Frage ist Richtig????
@long whale

[long whale]

Both/Either (in this particular case). :)

[long whale]

Not quite. "in order to" = um... zu -> Your sentence is missing the "um" :)

[ornate shuttle]

➡️➡️Wie lange braucht man sich in Deutschland,um das Essen zu gewöhnen????

[long whale]

Nooo... :D Like your 1st version, but inserting "um" after "man". Plus, comma after "man". :)

[ornate shuttle]

Aha

[long whale]

"How long do you need in order to get used to..." See?

[ornate shuttle]

Wie lange braucht man, um sich ans Essen in Deutschland zu gewöhnen

[long whale]

Yes, except I'd say "an das" (instead of ans), because you're talking about specific food, the kind you get in Germany. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Ok ☺️ Danke

[ornate shuttle]

Kann ich Sagen:
Wie lange braucht man, damit wir an das essen in Deutschland gewöhnen

ich denke es ist total falsch 😂

[long whale]

No. "total falsch" - oh yes.

Do you need an explanation?

[ornate shuttle]

yes please

Wie kann ich diesem Satz sagen
Wie lange braucht man, um sich an das Essen in Deutschland zu gewöhnen

ABER mit Damit nicht um......zu......

Ist das möglich??

[long whale]

Yes. Look at your sentence again: a) "gewöhnen" is reflexive b) the subject must be the same in both parts. "man" is not the same as "wir" -> 2 x "man" OR 2 x "wir". ("man" is preferable, though) Now, try again?

@ornate shuttle

[ornate shuttle]

wie lange braucht man, damit es sich an das Essen in Deutschland gewöhnt??

[long whale]

Where did "Mann" come from? 👀

Otherwise, it's correct now, yes. :)

No, not "Nico" either. 😹

[ornate shuttle]

😂😂😂

Now??

[long whale]

👀 👀 👀

Would you please just read this again: #questions-2 message ?

[ornate shuttle]

Entschuldigung, manchmal verstehe ich dich nicht so gut, weil mein Englisch ist schlecht

Gib mir zeit

[long whale]

2 x man

[ornate shuttle]

Ahaa

Wie lange braucht man, damit man sich an das Essen gewöhnt

[long whale]

1st part - okay. 2nd part - Mann Nico er es -> man

[ornate shuttle]

Ok Danke wieder ❤️ für deine Unterstützung

Leider habe ich viele Fehler beim Deutsch

[long whale]

Reading helps. :)

*Leider mache ich im Deutschen/in Deutsch viele Fehler :)

[ornate shuttle]

Ja ich sollte bücher auf Deutsch lesen, aber das mache ich nicht leider

[long whale]

Magazines, articles or cartoons also help. Doesn't have to be books. :)

But do start reading. The sooner, the better. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Reading On my phone ?

[long whale]

If that's what you prefer, yes. Why not?

[ornate shuttle]

Was empfiehlst du für mich

[long whale]

Things you are interested in. That's the most important thing. :)

Ich kann dir nichts empfehlen, weil ich nicht weiß, wofür du dich interessierst.

[ornate shuttle]

Ja, das stimmt

Kein problem Danke sehr wieder

[long whale]

*Nochmals vielen Dank :)

[ornate shuttle]

Ich mochte wissen, ob es ein problem gibt, wenn ich dir viele Fragen frage

[long whale]

*wenn ich dir viele Fragen stelle - Nein. :)

*möchte ;)

[ornate shuttle]

Omg ich schreibe keine sätze ohne Fehler😂

Ok tschüss und Danke für deine Zeit

[pearl swallow]

hi guys. my German test was moved to tomorrow and I'm still confused with dialogue. Can someone help me write dialogue between 2 people like in the picture. I don't have a picture of what the actual question is because my teacher told us what it was aloud in the classroom.

The first question is about a girl going to Switzerland. Use stelle. Her response should be positive.
The main difficult thing here is that you must use your cultural thing to say what she did, in addition to how she liked it. It doesnt matter if your cultural activity is for a different place, she just said to use it here.

[scenic drift]

well, do you understand the dialogues in the picture? have you had a go at writing your own? :)

[pearl swallow]

I kinda understand the dialogues in the picture and I dont have any writings for the first question

[proven sphinx]

I think it's simply about you writing sentences like "Hat es dir/euch (in Deutschland/in der Schweiz etc.) gefallen?" and someone answering with "Ja, es hat mir gefallen" or "Nein, es hat mir nicht gefallen".

[pearl swallow]

we were doing something like that in class I think 😂

[broken abyss]

Hiii
Ich brauche eure Hilfe
Was bedeutet "Dauersonne"? (Dauerregen)
Bei solchen Fragen hilft Duden nicht ((

[scenic drift]

"continuous sun" - what's the context?

[broken abyss]

"Das tief "Oskar" bringt weiteren Dauerregen..."
was für "Dauersonne", ich muss tippen, ob dieses Word in diesem Audio gibt

[scenic drift]

(is english ok?) "continuous rain", then - like it will continue raining for a while without stopping.

[broken abyss]

Yes, english is for me ok. Yeah, I started to understand, it´s some kind of "unnatural" word

With "Dauersonne" i think it is the same story

thank you for the answer

[ornate shuttle]

ich gehe schief und ich habe mich vertippt

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen ihnen???
@long whale

[delicate tiger]

"Ich gehe schief" gibt es nicht, nur "etwas geht schief"

[long whale]

Ich gehe schief es/etwas/das geht schief (something goes wrong)

[ornate shuttle]

Ok👍👍
Z.b. Die maschine geht schief?

[long whale]

No. "I want to use sawdust instead of flour in my cake" (Ich will Sägespäne statt Mehl in meinen Kuchen tun) - "That will go wrong!" (Das geht schief!)

[left crown]

oddly specific example there

[long whale]

You want to do something in a way which will not work -> it will go wrong -> das geht schief

[ornate shuttle]

🙏❤️Danke,

[long whale]

"Ovj jsnr ,ovj brtzoüüz" - ?? - "Oh, ich habe mich vertippt." @ornate shuttle

[left crown]

is jsnr really a word?

[ornate shuttle]

Danke wieder- kann ich sagen, wenn ich einen Fehler in einem Satz mache
Oh,ich glaube, ich habe mich vertippt

[long whale]

If you touched the wrong kex - key. Like this. ;)

[ornate shuttle]

Aha if i make a grammer wrong?

[long whale]

It is if you move your hands one key to the right on quertz. :)

[left crown]

xD

[long whale]

If you type a wrong lettar letter.

[ornate shuttle]

Ich meine, wenn ich mit Leuten spreche

Und hab einen Fehler gemacht

[long whale]

"sich vertippen" is only for typing.

[ornate shuttle]

Aha

[long whale]

"tippen" = to write on a keyboard/mobile

[ornate shuttle]

Ok, alles klar jetzt

Danke für deine ausgezeichnete eklärung

[long whale]

Ibrahim, there are German-Arabic and English-Arabic dictionaries, you know. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Alle Wörterbücher, die ich habe heruntergeladen sind nicht so gut

[proven sphinx]

Was ist mit Pons?

Hast du das schon mal versucht?

[ornate shuttle]

Nein

Ok danke ich versuche es

[wicked field]

Is it Ich Liebe Dich Auch

Or Ich Lieb dich auch

[scenic drift]

"Ich liebe dich auch"

[hidden parrot]

Ich Liebe Dich auch ist korrekt

[scenic drift]

(or "Ich lieb' dich auch", but that's informal :P)

[proven sphinx]

"lieb" is the colloquial way of saying it, but "liebe" is how it's correctly written.

[scenic drift]

well, except the capitalization 👀

[hidden parrot]

jaaaaa XD

i have some kind of wierd shift-pressing deviation

it's kind of Tourette syndrome

[proven sphinx]

OK

[hidden parrot]

joke, idk actually why i pressed this button XD

[pliant pelican]

**Wenn Sie genuges Geld haben ** is that correct or
Wenn Sie genug Geld haben

[proven sphinx]

It's the second one. "genug" is unchangeable.

[pliant pelican]

some adjektives are unchangeable wow ı just learn that thanks a lot

[proven sphinx]

Well, you can't really use "genug" as a normal adjective anyway. You can't say "Die genuge Arbeit", just like you can't say "the enough work" in English.

[pliant pelican]

ı understand thank you

[rough furnace]

Can I write it this way ?

Was gefällt dir nicht an deinem Geburtstag?

-Dass es ist an einem Schultag, nicht am Wochenende.

[scenic drift]

Dass er* an einem Schultag und nicht am Wochenende ist*

[turbid spear]

hi can someone send me like reading texts to practice reading?:)

[icy flax]

Idk ur level, but if you feel corageous, I suggest having either Google Chrome or Brave as your Browser, install the google translator plug-in and try your best with articles from newspapers. I like the sz.de very much and can only recommend (:
If u dont know a specific word, select, and u get the translation.

If you want sth lighter, idk exactly any source to find it on the top of my mind, but there might b some stuff in #resources

[thorny urchin]

Try lingua. Com there are quite a few texts with questions about them. They are at least a good start.

[little topaz]

I found that aufregen can both mean upset&excited. Does this mean in a sense of having a strong feeling of something?

[unique dune]

sich aufregen means to be upset, aufgeregt sein means to be excited

[mellow nova]

Yes, it refers to a general state of being in a 'stirred up' mood (regen by itself means to stir/move)

[mellow nova]

sich aufregen can translate to 'get excited' as well, just not so much in a positive connotation

[little topaz]

Ok thanks

[unique dune]

o ive never heard excited being used in a negative way

[mellow nova]

ya it can be to stimulate/get an emotional response from something

[turbid spear]

thanks so much!

[turbid spear]

thank you, I will try!

[lofty ermine]

how do you make a scentance from a "I" perspective to a "we" perspective?

[icy flax]

Readequate verb conjugation and pronouns

I am a bird. My love is to fly.
We are birds. Our love is to fly.
@lofty ermine

[olive sluice]

Hallo zusamme 🙂

Passt „können sein“ zu diesem Satz? Gibt es ein Unterschied zwischen „können sein“ und „es kann sein“?

Können sein, dass ihnen Nachhilfeunterrichte sogar mehr Spaß machen, weil man das aktuelle Thema
besser verstehen und Erfolgserlebnisse haben kann.

[long whale]

Only "es kann sein" is possible. :)

Plus, "Unterricht" doesn't have a plural (no -e) -> "machen" is not the right form.

[ornate shuttle]

Ich habe die Qual der Wahl

ich habe ein schlechtes Gewissen

Ich verstehe nur Bahnhof

Das habe ich akustisch nicht verstanden

Kann man diese sätze oder Redewendungen benutzen und sind sie richtig?
Danke im voraus
@long whale

[long whale]

Yes, and yes. :)

[olive sluice]

Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe!

[fervent kernel]

is "wie viel xyz kommt" a good way to ask how much something costs?

[long whale]

No. It's not the right verb, and word order is off as well. :)

[fervent kernel]

Okay "wie viel kommt xyz" 😆 but wrong, i see

[long whale]

Yeah, why would it be "comes"? 🤔

[fervent kernel]

Is there a casual way of asking how much something costs or just "wie viel kostet"

Ignore me, just translating literally from my language and somehow thought this was said here too lol

[long whale]

No, there must be a direct object.

wie viel kostet is incomplete.

[fervent kernel]

Yeah i meant "wie viel kostet xyz"

[long whale]

You could just ask "Wieviel/Wie viel?", though.

[fervent kernel]

Also "wie viel dafür" or?

Like how much for that

[long whale]

To my mind, just asking "How much?" is slightly rude. Wie viel dafür? is not something a native speaker would say. People may say "Wie viel wollen Sie dafür?" (How much do you want for this?) but that's really only for garage sales, flea markets and used cars, because everywhere else, trying to talk the price down isn't customary. :)

[fervent kernel]

Ah

So "Wie viel kostet das?" would be best in a normal store

[long whale]

Yes. :)

[fervent kernel]

Tyvm!

[merry wing]

Are anfangen and beginnen interchangable?

[proven sphinx]

"beginnen" is slightly more formal than "anfangen".

[merry wing]

Ok! Vielen Dank 👍

[mental furnace]

Hello guys. I hope you're doing fine. I want to ask some question about some phrases. Although ı search, ı could not get it.

what is the exactly meaning of "soweit,soviel" ?

And what is the different between "aussehen vs wirken" ?

[long whale]

I recommend checking https://www.dwds.de/wb/soviel#1. You'll see that as a conjunction, "soviel" and "soweit" are synonymous. However, "soviel [wie]" also works as an Indefinitpronomen meaning "as much as". wirken has more than one meaning, aussehen just means "to look, to have a certain look", as in "She looks beautiful" (Sie sieht schön aus): https://www.dwds.de/wb/wirken#1

[exotic cape]

Hi there everyone! I've been working on translating texts from english to german from the recources server but unfortunately there are only answers for a few sets. Does anyone have recommendations for sentence translation websites etc?

[wise pendant]

Deepl

[exotic cape]

Thanks but I meant already written english sentences 😅

[proven sphinx]

Linguee

[exotic cape]

But they don't have pre-written texts right? or are you talking about the examples underneath? 🙄

[proven sphinx]

They do, though.

Context Reverso also has pre-written texts.

[swift bough]

I think there are also some situations where you can only use one or the other, aren’t there?

[proven sphinx]

Hmm, I can't think of any off the top of my head.

[swift bough]

Afaik you wouldn’t say „Ich fange meine Hausaufgabe an“, it has to either be „anfangen mit“, or beginnen. Basically afaik anfangen doesn’t usually take a direct object.

[proven sphinx]

It's just that "beginnen" is more formal, so you'd never hear like a bunch of children saying "Er hat damit begonnen" after being told by an adult to break it up. That would sound extremely odd.

[proven sphinx]

Yeah, I guess that's true.

But you'd be hard-pressed to hear "Hast du deine Hausaufgaben begonnen?" as well. It just sounds too formal.

[swift bough]

But can’t it take a direct object sometimes?
I mean idk if I’ve ever heard it like that but on dict.cc it says „etwas anfangen“ is a thing.

[swift bough]

True

[proven sphinx]

Hmm...

Yeah, you can use it quite often, actually.

[swift bough]

I feel like I would have said
zu arbeiten/einen Brief zu schreiben anfangen
instead though, idk maybe that’s just me

Instead of using a noun

[proven sphinx]

"einen Brief anfangen" sounds perfectly fine.

[swift bough]

I‘m not saying it doesn’t, it’s just I know the way I speak and I probably wouldn’t have chosen that over using einen Brief zu schreiben anfangen

It would have come to my head first

Maybe that’s because I didn’t know you could say that tho

[proven sphinx]

I wouldn't even put it in that order. I'd say "(damit) anfangen, einen Brief zu schreiben"

But as Duden said, both work.

[swift bough]

That does make more sense

[proven sphinx]

You can see one of the examples there, where it says that both "zu heulen anfangen" and "anfangen zu heulen" work.

[swift bough]

I was also more so just trying to write it as the „dictionary construction“ than the way I would actually use it in a sentence

[proven sphinx]

If I wanted to know how to start a letter, I'd definitely ask: "Wie sollte man einen Brief anfangen?", though.

[swift bough]

I mean a lot of times even though Duden says something is right, it can end up not necessarily being the most natural option.

[proven sphinx]

I guess so.

[swift bough]

Like there were some times where I used something, got corrected, then showed them a Duden entry I had learned it from, and they’re like I still wouldn’t say it that way : P

[proven sphinx]

I can't say I'm surprised.

[fervent kernel]

When Ihnen means you, is that you singular or plural?

Ok

What is plural dative then? Euch?

[swift bough]

It’s actually both

In a formal setting

And so is Sie

You need context to know if it’s plural or singular which should usually be pretty self-explanatory

But you’re thinking of ihnen when it means „them“, and not „you“.

When lowercase

Ich habe meine Hausaufgaben auf den Schreibtisch hingelegt und nun sind die nicht mehr da, hast du etwas mit ihnen gemacht?

For ex

It could not be capitalized then it makes no sense

It‘s something I actually appreciate about German. A lot of times you can be lazy in english with capitalization but in German you can’t or you risk being misunderstood

Very often people say denen instead of ihnen too

[delicate tiger]

(hinsetzen können sich nur Menschen -> legen)

[swift bough]

Ach ja, stimmt

Whoops

[frozen haven]

Ich habe eine Frage: Ich finde, dass man oft ,,ach ja'' oder ,,na ja'' benutzt, wenn man eine Ja/Nein-Frage antwortet. Ist das eine Redewendung oder etwas anders?

[night dagger]

ich würde da naja oder jein sagen

vielleicht sind sie kleine Redewendungen aber eigentlich finde ich, dass sie halt auf Deutsch idiomatisch sind

[frozen haven]

also wie ,,ohhhhh'' auf Englisch?

[night dagger]

ja, so in der Richtung

[frozen haven]

Ja klar

Dankeschön

[night dagger]

danke schön*

und kein Ding! :)

[rough charm]

i am doing anki, and one of the words it gave me is 'der schalter.' The example sentence it gives is "Gehen Sie bitte zum Schalter drei!" I understand each word in this example but I have no idea what it is talking about. Can someone please explain what this sentence means?

[mellow nova]

What does your card say the definition of der Schalter is?

[rough charm]

'switch'

[mellow nova]

then you should update it! It also means 'counter' like the place where an employee stands behind to help customers

[rough charm]

aaahhh

thanks

i appriciate that

[mellow nova]

np

[pure walrus]

Wenn ich sagen möchte: "Ich möchte meine Nachbarn einladen, aber sie hatten sich letztes Jahr um den Lärm beschwert". Wie stelle ich eine Frage? Worum hatten sie sich beschwert?

[long whale]

It's "sich über (OR wegen) etwas beschweren" -> Please correct accordingly. ;)

[pure walrus]

Thanks

[shut briar]

Es bleibt also nur noch eine Prüfung übrig jetzt

Vs

So bleibt uns jetzt nur eine Prüfung

1st oder 2nd oder both are okay

[long whale]

"jetzt" ought to be moved forward in the 1st sentence. Otherwise, they're both okay. :)

[shut briar]

Am ganz Anfang oder vor übrig?

[long whale]

As 1st word (-> no "es"), after "bleibt" or after "also". :)

@shut briar

*Ganz an den Anfang ;)

[plush pelican]

Was talking with a German who said this sentence: "gefühlt haben nur öffentliche dienste und behörden früher feierabend an nem freitag, leider längst nicht alle"

I said I didn't understand how they could start a sentence with "gefühlt haben", and they said that in fact the "gefühlt" could be replaced with "Ich habe das Gefühl, dass".

What's going on here? Is this a part of grammar, or just something said so often that people can guess where you're going? Are there other words that represent entire sentences?

[long whale]

Where it comes from is weather forecasts. At some point, they started adding what the temperature felt like, as well as saying what it actually was (or was going to be), as in "15°, gefühlt 18°". People liked that, and ever since, we've been using "gefühlt" to mean "not literally, but that's what it feels/felt like". :) @plush pelican

[plush pelican]

Interessant. Gibt es irgendetwas anders wie das? Ganze Sätze, die mit nur einem Wort repräsentiert sind?

[long whale]

I don't think so, but maybe. And "gefühlt" doesn't really replace a whole sentence, it's still just an adjective you could translate as "feels like" 🤷

[plush pelican]

Danke, @long whale

[last tusk]

if i want to say „I want to speak Greman, but i can’t”
it would be
„Ich will Deutsch sprechen, aber kann nicht“
????

[fervent kernel]

i think yes

Der Zug fährt von Koln ab und kommt (in oder im) Mannheim an.

ist in or im and why

[eager sequoia]

its in
im is not the right preposition, because Mannheim is a city... there isnt a general rule for that.

but if you have cities its always in

[eager sequoia]

ja, das wäre richtig.
noch besser wäre :
aber kann es nicht.

[night dagger]

in - da es im Akkusativ ist.

[scenic drift]

you could also do "..., kann aber nicht", right? 🤔

[scenic drift]

i don't think this is a case thing? you just can't say "in the (im) Mannheim"

oh, i see they've asked teh same question in the other channel and got an answer there too -.-

[night dagger]

nee

[fervent kernel]

thx u

[night dagger]

es ist doch Akkusativ

es gibt eine Richtung

[scenic drift]

i'm not disputing what case it's in, i'm just saying that it's "in" rather than "in dem" because you don't say "in the <town name>"

[night dagger]

die Frage war aber "in oder im".

[eager sequoia]

aber was wäre es dann mit:" Der Zug fährt in Köln ab und hält im Saarland an.

Dann bleibt es ja Akk.

[night dagger]

es gibt da keine Richtung.