questions-2

[thorn pelican]

yes and i'm here to have illegal sexual relations with your children

[lone chasm]

wut?

[thorn pelican]

anyhow back on topic: one of the first lessonsof learning a foreign language is you can't ask 'what does x mean in y language' without providing context for x.

[thorn pelican]

sarcasm

[lone chasm]

lol

[toxic mango]

Ah im scared

[lone chasm]

say what you want. i will learn it anyways. Time is like dust. You see the screen of your computer and later you see something else. Like your opinions will stop me. Although thanks for the help. I appreciate it.

[dusty pendant]

...

i
is there a singular for leute

can you have
one leut

[delicate tiger]

"das Leut" but it's only used in dialect, not standard German

[dusty pendant]

ah i see

thank you :)

[nova night]

Hey, sagen die Kinder ihren Eltern "Papa, darf ich etwas machen"?

Oder klingt das zu höflich

[autumn marsh]

etwas machen? Wenn es um etwas konkretes geht, dann passt das.

"Papa, darf ich schwimmen gehen?"
"Papa, darf ich singen?"
"Papa, darf ich Marie treffen?"

[nova night]

Ach so, ich weiß nicht warum, aber ich hatte es auch mit etwas gemischt. Danke für deine Hilfe, die Beispielen machten mich klar zu verstehen.

[shut briar]

Ich bin heute auf diesen Satz gestoßen

"Irgendwas muss dazwischengekommen sein"

Soweit ich weiß, er bedeutet, something must have come up

Aber ich verstehe nicht, warum es auch ˋsein´gibt

Würde er nicht ohne sein Sinn macht

[autumn marsh]

nein, denn "muss" ist ja das finite Verb, der Ausdruck aber ist "etwas dazwischengekommen sein"

Also: "Irgendwas ist dazwischengekommen" > das steht fest
Oder: "Irgendwas muss dazwischengekommen sein" > ich vermute stark, dass etwas dazwischengekommen ist

mit Verben wie müssen, sollen, dürfen ... drückt man aus, welche Einstellung oder Vermutung man hat.

[fervent kernel]

is there a compound word of kaufen + Büro?

like "Kaufebüro" or something

Kaufbüro is correct

[swift bough]

What does that even mean

[fervent kernel]

what does it mean? buying office?

[swift bough]

A purchasing office

Maybe for buying property or something idk but I’ve never heard of such a thing in general even in English

Then that would be a real estate office if that even exists

[fervent kernel]

I cant find it in the dictionary but I know for sure that they go together

It can't be looked up in the dictionary, because most ofently word compositions aren't mentioned due to the fact that you could composite every word.
I only heard in "real estate office" kind of context.

[swift bough]

It honestly doesn’t surprise me that it exists but „kaufen“ is really broad

Wow how did I guess that

[fervent kernel]

I guess that's the only context that would actually make sense

Yup

[swift bough]

Yeah cuz like if you wanna buy something you usually just go to the store

[fervent kernel]

I mean you don't go grocery shopping in a "Kaufbüro" so yeah

[swift bough]

But real estate is one of those only things you can’t just buy at a store

So that’s why I guessed that I suppose

[quartz sundial]

can somebody help me in this?

[fallow ledge]

What do you think?

Sorry that sounds really aggressive, its not meant to. Like what part are you stuck on

[quartz sundial]

i can't understand german well i've missed classes so im havin trouble solving all this

[scenic drift]

you should show your own attempt first

(and if you really don't understand it, you should tell your teacher as much - the point of homework is for them to assess how well you've understood what they've taught)

faq homework

[stoic mauve]

How to ask a question

If you want something corrected, you can put it in a Google Doc and share a link with permission level »can suggest« in #writing .

Don't ask us to translate something for you outright: that takes professional time and effort and we're not here for that. You can try your luck with deepl.com.
For single words, use dict.cc or another dictionary, it'll be quicker.

If you want to know if/how a word can be used, provide some context to help us understand the situation.

Don't ask us to do your homework or exams for you! Show us your best attempt at something and try to pinpoint what exactly you don't understand.

[quartz sundial]

im not understanding the meaning of the options given below

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[scenic drift]

have you looked them up in a dictionary?

[quartz sundial]

nope

[scenic drift]

than i would suggest that as a first step :P

[quartz sundial]

can u explain me the answers?

@scenic drift

[scenic drift]

Don't ask us to do your homework or exams for you! Show us your best attempt at something and try to pinpoint what exactly you don't understand.

no, try doing it yourself first

[quartz sundial]

ok

just can u tell me the meaning of the options below cuz thats what confusing me @scenic drift

[plain umbra]

Here's a dictionary you can use: https://www.dict.cc/

[quartz sundial]

oh thats great

thnx

now i'll try myself

[fervent kernel]

(ich poste hier um das gespräch in #questions nicht zu störren) noch zum thema herunterladen/downloaden: hier benutzt derselbe sprecher die beide begriffe, das verwirrt mich... ist es normal, dass man zwischen einem anglizismus und einem nativen begriff wechselt?

(kinda beating dead horse here im just confused cuz in finnish you wouldnt switch between anglism and native expression)

[autumn marsh]

ja, ist normal. laden, downloaden, runterladen und herunterladen werden wild gemixt.

wobei ich persönlich in offiziellen Texten oder Zeitungsartikeln o.ä. "downloaden" vermeiden würde, und noch mehr "downgeloadet" oder irgendwelche anderen Beugungen, sowas wie "downzuloaden", das klingt einfach komisch, v.a. auch, weil gerade letzteres durchaus nicht unstrittig ist - die Frage ist nämlich, ob "downloaden" trennbar ist oder nicht. ist es also:

zu downloaden

oder:

downzuloaden

selbst diese beiden Varianten können in einem Gespräch von ein und derselben Person verwendet werden

ich persönlich, wie auch viele andere, tendiere daher dazu, speziell dieses Wort gar nicht zu verwenden. Gibt auch einfach keinen guten Grund dazu: die deutsche Variante ist genauso lang, oder sogar kürzer ("laden")

begegnen wird dir das Wort trotzdem.

[fervent kernel]

fantastische erklärung, danke:)

[autumn marsh]

hat übrigens nichts mit "Anglizismenfeindlichkeit" o.ä. zu tun, jedenfalls bei mir. gibt genug Anglizismen, die ich gerne verwende, wie "nice" oder "weird" oder "random", einfach weil es da keine gute Entsprechung im Deutschen gibt. In diesen Fällen erweitern diese Worte meine Ausdrucksfähigkeit, anstatt sie zu beschneiden. "Downloaden" dagegen ist weder kürzer, noch beschreibt es etwas, wofür es keine gute deutsche Entsprechung gibt

[fervent kernel]

downgeloadet klingt komisch, ich dachte dass englische wörter würde nicht so flektiert (in perfekt), sondern mit der endung -ed wie auf englisch

zb geliked

[autumn marsh]

doch die werden eigentlich immer flektiert

naja, "ge-" ist doch die deutsche Flektion? 😄

"geliket" wirst du auch oft sehen

[fervent kernel]

ach so? dass wusste ich nicht 😮

danke

[autumn marsh]

im Präteritum ist das nochmal eine andere Kiste, einfach weil die Form so selten ist. Ich habe keine Ahnung, was man da benutzen würde ...

"Er likete den Post und ging schlafen." ... sieht komisch aus ...

"Er likte den Post und ging schlafen." ... sieht komisch aus

vermutlich würde man das komplett vermeiden und schreiben:

"Er gab dem Post einen Like und ging schlafen."

genauso mit "downloaden:

"Er downloadete den Text und ging schlafen." > sieht sehr komisch aus

würde ich auch eher vermeiden, entweder mit "laden":

"Er lud den Text herunter und ging schlafen."

oder so:

"Er beendete den Download des Textes und ging schlafen."

[fervent kernel]

ich vermute dass man würde perfekt benutzen anstatt von präteritum (ich meinte perfekt vorher 😅 )

[autumn marsh]

in Erzählungen oder Romanen benutzt man aber nicht den Perfekt :>

das ist die (exklusive) Welt des Präteritum

[fervent kernel]

oh

[autumn marsh]

in einem Buch/Roman wirst du niemals lesen:

"Er hat seine Mutter besucht und ist dann nach Hause gegangen.", das wäre katastrophal schlechter Stil 😄 es wäre immer:

"Er besuchte seine Mutter und ging dann nach Hause."

außer natürlich, der Autor benutzt direkte Rede, klar.

[fervent kernel]

sieht so aus, als ob der einzige natürliche weg wäre, zusätzliche deutsche wörter zu hinzufügen

[fervent kernel]

wie du gesagt hast 😄

danke für die detaillierte antwort!

[whole portal]

Heißt ja auch gedownloadet smh

[autumn marsh]

"hinzuzufügen" 😅 auch wenns komisch aussieht ...

naja, wir fügen ja die Wörter hinzu, nur kommen sie eben aus dem Englischen :> auch wenn ich die Aufregung nicht verstehe, "Restaurant" kommt ja auch aus dem Französischen und keiner ärgert sich hier über den Galizismus, während bei "Diner" alle rumschreien. 🤷

[autumn marsh]

gerne 🙏

[fast sable]

Does the German language have any conditionals like English does? (for instance: ‘If I study for this exam, I will pass.”)

[fervent kernel]

Yes, I sent you a link to an English website explaining the different types of German conditional sentences. @fast sable

[fast sable]

Thank you :D

[fervent kernel]

You're welcome

[sterile bone]

how do you say pickle auf deutsch

[pulsar narwhal]

Essiggurke or Gewürzgurke

[sterile bone]

Danke Schön

[fast sable]

euer in dativ is eurem ?

[long whale]

If you'd checked your original question in the other channel, you'd have seen my 👍 ;)

[fast sable]

Sorry, my bad! I didn’t receive any notification 🤣thank you!💖👍

[fervent kernel]

whats the difference between da and dort? i watched a video and the guy said du warst da and the subtitle said du warst dort

[willow socket]

they're pretty much the same. Da tends to be used more and iirc dort implies a place further away sometimes?

[noble yacht]

I would say "dort" is a little bit more professional, but both formes are right

[mortal stirrup]

I'm wondering why in this example ; "Alle anderen haben nur zugeschaut" we need to had the verb to have (haben) Thank you

[fervent kernel]

It's to create a tense. Haben geschaut, haben gegessen, haben geschlafen and so on.

[noble yacht]

As he already said, it's for the past ^^

[mortal stirrup]

ohhhh

okay so that would translate to "everyone else just watched"?

[fervent kernel]

Oh please help me with my English, I thought it's the same past tense in German and in English: have watched - haben zugeschaut. No?

[mortal stirrup]

yea thats what i thought so too but in english it doesnt make a lot of sense

in french it works tho

[fervent kernel]

To be honest I struggle in both languages when to use which tense 😀

[mortal stirrup]

we kinda have the same form

so ill be okay thanks for helping out

[mortal stirrup]

me too 🧍

[fervent kernel]

Are you from France?

[mortal stirrup]

hmm no but i speak french

where you from?

woher kommen sie?

[fervent kernel]

I had French at school and forgot almost everything in the meantime. I'm from Germany.

[noble yacht]

I would also translate it with had/have watched

[fervent kernel]

Thank you,

[noble yacht]

Bist du Muttersprachler? Dann hol dir mal die Native-Speaker Rolle in #850404908946423828

[fervent kernel]

whats the purpose of an and ad in sentences

Oh je, dann darf ich keine Fehler mehr machen...

[pulsar narwhal]

Wenns danach geht hab ich schon verkackt

[mortal stirrup]

yes had watched was making a lot of sense to me okay thank you

[long whale]

"an" is a preposition. "ad" only ever appears in Latin quotations, so, maybe you meant something else?

[noble yacht]

I have no idea how to explain this, but maybe you'll get help if you translate an with of
(Not sure if this works everytime - correct me)

[long whale]

For most prepositions, there is no single translation. 🤷

[fervent kernel]

yes ab

my bad

[fervent kernel]

Hallo Data, kommst Du auch aus Deutschland? Can't find the professional sign 😉

[long whale]

Only the mods can confer the native speaker role. :)

[noble yacht]

Thx :)

[pulsar narwhal]

professional sign?

[fervent kernel]

äm yes, the sign of professional - native speaker.

[long whale]

"ab" mostly means "off", but did you mean "ab und an"? That would be "on and off". For "an", there is no single translation. :)

[pulsar narwhal]

hab ich doch

[fervent kernel]

Like in this sentence: 'ich schaue mir gerne einen Film an'' is the an needed or it can be removed?

I'm sorry, ich bin erst eine Stunde oder so hier. I have to find out how everything works. So please, be a patient.

[pulsar narwhal]

No patience. Ban him her

[fervent kernel]

Hey, that's not nice. I'm a her, not a him. Where can I find your native professional sign?

[pulsar narwhal]

#850404908946423828

[fervent kernel]

On internet everyone is neutral 😄

internet would be a better place that way

Hm how far would that go? Neutral wether or not I'm human. Maybe I'm a parrot or a cat.

I'm just saying genders don't really matter on internet

unlike real life

A lot of bad people on internet who would just harass you for being a woman

Yes they do matter. I would say it's even more important since we don't see each other, here it's already quite limited.

I agree, many people are very sick and may harass women.

ah

yes

[molten berry]

How do i learn german?

[proven sphinx]

That's a complicated question. It takes a lot of work.

[noble yacht]

Take time, learn by heart, do exercises, etc.
You can use the #resources

[proven sphinx]

There are a few resources on #resources for you to get started, though.

[molten berry]

OK Phew Ich bin nicht der beste in der sprache Muss Noch viel lernen

[proven sphinx]

The simple answer is by practicing it, really. You have to learn the grammar, the vocabulary etc.

[molten berry]

Do u speak german?

[noble yacht]

He is a native speaker because his name is orange

[proven sphinx]

Yep, and so is Sebassasin.

[molten berry]

ok well I can speak german Pretty good too

[proven sphinx]

Right.

[molten berry]

I dont lie

im good

Why im i not a Native speaker

[noble yacht]

Maybe because you aren't a german? Show your German skills in #german-only

[molten berry]

Bet

[sweet grail]

hey i’m finding the word ‘tätowiere‘ particularly hard to pronounce. can anyone help? id be looking for more south pronunciation :)

[ancient aspen]

what do you mean by "south"

[pulsar narwhal]

bavarian

[hazy ingot]

only that i understand that right, for example: "jemanden tätowieren"

[ancient aspen]

eyeyey mach mal das kreuz da weg wir sind normale Menschen

haha

(die meisten von uns)

[pulsar narwhal]

Sichtbare Zweifel

[ancient aspen]

wieso denn

[pulsar narwhal]

Das kann nur ein Bayer fragen

[ancient aspen]

ja gut ich verstehe die Zweifel aber bin ich etwa nicht normal?

[sweet grail]

well i’ve been to munich many times and i would like to move there some day so i thought it would be better to adapt to their type of german

[pulsar narwhal]

Um das zu beurteilen kenne ich dich zu wenig xD

[ancient aspen]

believe me most munich people dont even speak bavarian and you wont be able to adapt this dialect because it changes so drastically in such a short distance if you know what I mean

[pulsar narwhal]

calling munich bavaraian ...

[sweet grail]

yeah i wouldn’t learn Bavarian i just know they might have some different words and phrases around there?

[ancient aspen]

yeah they do but the word "tätowieren" is just the same as it is in "Hochdeutsch"

[sweet grail]

yeah i’m just having some trouble pronouncing it

it’s weird it’s just that one specific word

[ancient aspen]

google translator has the sound hasnt it

[sweet grail]

i feel stupid

oh my god

i’m so oblivious

[ancient aspen]

haha

[unreal spear]

Does anyone have a suggestion, what's the best way to tackle Passiv? I really don't know from where to begin...

[mellow nova]

Look it up on Your Daily German blog

It's fairly simple when you get the hang of it

[near folio]

du kannst hier darüber lesen: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Passive/Passiv.html
Oder hast du besondere Fragen dazu?

[mellow nova]

I don't remember if the page is called passiv or if it is called werden, wurden, worden, würden

[unreal spear]

Thanks guys, you are great.

[worldly portal]

Theres also a bot command for it 👌

[fervent veldt]

Welche ist mehr richtig?
"Verabredet Klaus sich nie mit den Kollegen?"
"Verabredet sich Klaus nie mit den Kollegen?"

[vale tundra]

Der zweite Satz ist richtig, glaub ich

[vocal coral]

I'm very confused about prepositions. Like how do I know which preposition goes with what verb?

Like what would go with kauft?

[mellow nova]

What do you mean what goes with kauft

[vocal coral]

Well our German teacher has us learning prepositions at the moment and whenever he introduces a verb he has a preposition at the front. Like einkaufen.

I'm sorry if I make no sense.

[mellow nova]

Kaufen and einkaufen are not the same verb

[vale tundra]

it would probably depend on the context

[plain umbra]

It's no problem.

But that's not a preposition.

[mellow nova]

It's a seperable verb

[vocal coral]

Right.

[plain umbra]

These are called "separable verbs".

[vocal coral]

Sometimes it is a preposition though. Like with aus,auf,nach...

[mellow nova]

And there's no rule about what 'goes with what'

You just learn them like any other verb

They have general meanings but they don't always follow the rule

[plain umbra]

The thing which attaches onto the verb is called a "prefix". Some of them look like the same word as prepositions, but grammatically it's a different thing.

[mellow nova]

You learn machen, to do. You also learn ausmachen, to turn off

[vocal coral]

Dang.

[mellow nova]

Sane thing in english rly

To go vs to go out

One is for movement one is for dating

[vocal coral]

I guess.

Also what does rein mean?

I tried looking it up and it looks like it means pure but it looks like it can also be used for like "to go in."

[mellow nova]

That's still a separable verb

Reingehen

Rein as an adjective means clean or pure and as an adverb something like 100% or solely

But reingehen means to go in

[plain umbra]

Yeah, there are two words that are different. There is the adjective "rein" which means pure, but there is also "rein" which is short for herein/hinein.

[vocal coral]

[mellow nova]

lol

[plain umbra]

Like reingehen meaning "to go in" is actually short for hineingehen.

[mellow nova]

Til

[vocal coral]

So I'm guessing separable verbs are called that cause they are separated in a sentence?

[plain umbra]

Reingehen is the colloquial form.

[vocal coral]

Well how do I know what the separable version of a verb is?

[plain umbra]

Yeah. Depending on the exact sentence/structure being used, the prefix may separate from the main part of the verb.

[plain umbra]

What do you mean?

[vocal coral]

Like how do I tell gehe goes with rein?

[plain umbra]

Like Delli said, you don't think of it as "rein goes with gehen". You just learn "reingehen" as a verb by itself.

[mellow nova]

Again, They're two different verbs

[vocal coral]

I'm guessing I memorize them separately then?

[mellow nova]

You aren't learning gehen and all the prefixes that go with gehen

You learn gehen, reingehen etc

[plain umbra]

When you learn verbs, you basically want to learn how to describe different actions that you want to talk about. So you learn verbs based on what kind of action you want to describe. Sometimes the verb you learn will be separable, sometimes not.

[vocal coral]

I see.

I gave myself Level A as well since I'm still new.

[plain umbra]

Makes sense.

[vocal coral]

Is ausbiete one of thos verbs?

Or is it aufbiete?

[fervent veldt]

andere Antworte

Ist das richtig?

[prisma anchor]

yes, all of those you mentioned are correct 🙂

[fervent veldt]

Also kann man beide sagen?

[prisma anchor]

ja, das denke ich zumindest

[silver ivy]

Ich denke auch das beides geht

[vocal coral]

All these separable verbs are so confusing.

[swift bough]

gets easier with time

[vocal coral]

Also why is it aufstehe and not abstehe? I thought ab meant up?

So wouldn't it be stand up?

[swift bough]

prepositions are not that simple

"auf" can mean like at least 5 different English prepositions

[vocal coral]

[fervent veldt]

they both mean up

[night dagger]

just use the separable verbs with modal verbs every time and then you never have to separate them

[vocal coral]

So ab would just be direction then?

[prisma anchor]

lmao that's horrible

[night dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[swift bough]

you have to learn basically, when do i use what, in which situations @vocal coral

it's more about that and less about "what does this one literally mean"

[fervent veldt]

auf: "that's not even my final form"

[swift bough]

also

[mellow nova]

Don't forget to mention auf only means on if you're on a horizontal surface

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

[vocal coral]

Latin spoiled me with its patterns.

[swift bough]

hahaha

german does have patterns too actually

[vocal coral]

Not enough.

[swift bough]

but you have to realise

prepositions are never easy

in any language

[vocal coral]

I guess that makes sense.

[swift bough]

it's not just german

[fervent veldt]

Do separable verbs follow this rule?

ex: aufstehen

[mellow nova]

I have no idea tbh

[swift bough]

not really

it's only when they are a pure preposition

[fervent veldt]

ye makes more sense

[swift bough]

because think about this

[mellow nova]

You don't really stand on something not horizontal very often

Now that I think of it

[swift bough]

lets just say you could walk on walls...you would still say "aufstehen"

[vocal coral]

How does treten become tritt?

[swift bough]

so yeah lol

[mellow nova]

Because it does

[fervent veldt]

conjukation

[mellow nova]

How does be become is, am, are

Verbs be like that

[vocal coral]

True.

[swift bough]

the same reason why "realise" becomes "realises", "realising", etc

it's called conjugation

[vocal coral]

I know, it just seemed a little wacky.

[mellow nova]

I think they meant the irregular conjugation

Not conjugation in general

[swift bough]

ohhh

lol

yeah that is because it's not regular

[vocal coral]

I know conjugation, I was just complaining since I'm tired and this is confusing and I have a lot of homework due at midnight.

[swift bough]

true

[mellow nova]

Well now you know to not procrastinate

😡

[vocal coral]

I didn't know it was due today!

[swift bough]

if it helps...nobody learns everything in one day

[plain umbra]

To be more specific: du and er/sie/es form of verbs often get "stem changes" in present tense. A small number of verbs also have a stem change in "ich". But other forms won't be affected. Plural forms are never affected by stem changes (aside from sein).

[vocal coral]

The due date was only added yesterday.

3;

[mellow nova]

rip

[fervent veldt]

is it school German class

[vocal coral]

College.

[fervent veldt]

Why are you studying that in college

[vocal coral]

Felt like it.

[mellow nova]

German 101 exists

[swift bough]

idk if you've heard of it but leo.org is a nice website where you can look up all conjugations @vocal coral

[fervent veldt]

Mein doesn't have it

[mellow nova]

Not every high school in the US offers german

I assume us since they said college

[fervent veldt]

Plus everyone says that German language classes in college are sheiße

[vocal coral]

I want to teach Latin/Roman history some day and my community college doesn't have Latin so I decided to learn German for the credits and for my grand parents.

[swift bough]

i am studying to be a highschool german teacher

[vocal coral]

My teacher is nice.

I like him.

[mellow nova]

My teacher in high-school german barked at the ceiling because it leaked once

[fervent veldt]

No I meant with comparison to private courses

[plain umbra]

Sorry, I think the conversation is getting a bit off-topic.

[mellow nova]

Wonders of American education

[vocal coral]

I gotta get used to saying professor...

[mellow nova]

🙂

[swift bough]

it doesn't really have to do with the professors. the thing that is really missing in those environments are native speakers you can talk to. i mean maybe your teacher is native, but i mean like a bunch of them you can talk to individually

[vocal coral]

True, sorry.

[swift bough]

oops srry

[fervent veldt]

it is hard to find native speakers to talk to even in Germany

[whole portal]

Huh

[swift bough]

@whole portal we are discussing this in #general-2 if you care

[mellow nova]

Can germans understand different dialects? I'm looking at some south german and some northwest dialects and I am very confused to say the least

[plain umbra]

For more details you probably want to ask in #dialects but the basic answer is that some can be understood by most people and some can't (depending on how close the person's dialect is to the other, or how close the dialect is to standard German, and so on).

The main issue is that generally dialects can have quite different vocab or the words are changed a lot, so it can be difficult for someone to understand if they don't know the words.

[charred harbor]

I think another point worth raising is that what classifies as a dialect is very debatable, and some borderline on the cusp of (and are often argued as being) completely separate languages.

[swift bough]

Often times politics is the only thing truly holding something back from being considered a truly separate language.

[fervent hollow]

Would this sentence be grammatically correct? Ich solle jetzt schlafen und ich werde zur Schule gehen müssen... Aber ich werde nicht schlafen...

Also I'm not very good at prepositions

[plain umbra]

Do you mean "ich sollte"?

I think it's fine grammatically (aside from what I just mentioned), but instead of using future tense in "ich werde zur Schule gehen müssen" I think it would sound better and be easier to just use present tense + time adverb.

Like "ich muss morgen zur Schule gehen".

[mortal stirrup]

im wondering why the "nicht" is placed at the end of sentences sometimes ; for example : "ich wehre mich nicht". I'm awared that this is some kind of grammatical case but could someone explain, thank you

[harsh kestrel]

how would i say something along the lines of "this project is about X"

[plain umbra]

It can be a little complicated sometimes. In this case I think the rule is "nicht follows the verb object". I think this is a decent summary of how it works: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/WordOrder/WordOrder1.html#nicht

But "nicht" is something where you can't purely memorize rules. You have to get a sense for how it works from exposure too.

[mortal stirrup]

Okay thats much clearer and also i guess the more ill get inside the german language it will just come to me naturally, thank you 🙇‍♂️

[plain umbra]

No problem. A lot of things in word order can be learned with rules, but nicht is just a bit trickier.

[fervent kernel]

is this sentence correct : Der beste Film aller Zeiten

As in The best movie ever made

[swift bough]

Yes

[hollow oak]

"In diesem Projekt geht es um..."
Oder " dieses Projekt beschäftigt sich mit..."

[fervent kernel]

Is there a difference between wegen und aufgrund?

regarding the context they are used in to be specific

[gentle barn]

Nope, they r synonyms

[fervent kernel]

Is what I thought but my teacher keeps correcting me

So i thought there must be a subtle difference that i didn't catch

[gentle barn]

There’s no way 😅

[fervent kernel]

I should probably drop the examples she corrected me on

Will get them once I'm home

Check out #questions

[gentle barn]

I’m not a Native, but I learn German at school for my whole life, so… I’m 100% sure they mean the same

[scenic drift]

seeing the examples would be useful yeah

[fervent hollow]

What context is großartig used in?

And what does it mean?

[mellow nova]

durch seine ungewöhnliche, bedeutende Art beeindruckend oder sehr gut

[worldly bloom]

It’s similar to amazing

[fervent hollow]

So like heut' ist eine großartige Tag?

Or...¿?

[mellow nova]

Could be yea

[charred harbor]

ein großartiger Tag*

[fervent hollow]

Sorry

[mortal stirrup]

If i want to say "At twilight" should i say "in der Dämmerung" oder "bei der Dämmerung", for exemple : "Bei der Dämmerung is der Himmel rosa."

[left widget]

It is "In der Dämmerung ist der Himmel rosa"

[mortal stirrup]

Alright thank you

[unreal spear]

Kann jemand von ihnen ein paar Bücher auf Niveau B2 empfehlen?

[long whale]

I'd say at B2 it's more a question of what kind of books you like. :)

[viral pagoda]

Is ick an actual thing people say instead of Ich

Slang lang obv speaking

[long whale]

It's dialect (in and around Berlin). It isn't acceptable in Standard German, if that's what you want to know. :)

[viral pagoda]

thank you, I figured it isnt part of anything official. I just wanted to ask if people commonly use it or it's just one of these obscure things people used to say and stopped then.

[harsh kestrel]

hat deutsch eine "shitpost" entsprechung?

and is that sentence even correct

[autumn marsh]

Der Satz ist korrekt.

Und nein, eine richtige Entsprechung gibt es nicht ... man kann bspw. sagen: der Quatsch-Post, der Unsinns-Post, der Troll-Post

[proven sphinx]

German loves using anglicisms, so this would definitely be one of them, I think.

[autumn marsh]

aber "shitpost" is definitely something young germans will be using instead

[proven sphinx]

Anything related to internet culture will usually use anglicisms in German.

[autumn marsh]

Yep, but when it comes to the hardware, some things will be german words that are widely used:

Maus - (computer) mouse
Bildschirm/Schirm/Monitor - monitor/screen
Rechner - the PC itself
Lautsprecher - speakers
Kopfhörer - headphones
Drucker - printer

exception: Laptop, there's no German word for that

so on the hardware/technical side, there are quite a bunch of German words, but when it comes to the "software"-side, it's very often English, and even more so if it is in any way related to modern internet culture

[harsh kestrel]

danke

[fervent veldt]

Wie kann man "1.6" auf Deutsch?

[proven sphinx]

1,6 %

Mit einem Komma statt einem Punkt.

[fervent veldt]

Wie kann man das sprechen?

[proven sphinx]

"Eins komma sechs Prozent"

[fervent veldt]

eins punkt sechs_

[proven sphinx]

Nein.

Eins komma sechs

[fervent veldt]

Warum benutzen die Deutschen , statt .

[noble yacht]

. Beendet den Satz, , nicht

[bold sapphire]

das gesamte europäische Festland benutzt , statt .

[proven sphinx]

Es sind nicht nur die Deutschen.

[proven sphinx]

Na ja, in der Schweiz habe ich es immer als "1.6" geschrieben, aber als "Eins Komma Sechs" ausgesprochen. Aber offiziell sollte es auch hier als "1,6 %" geschrieben werden.

Das habe ich aber nur vor einigen Jahren gelernt. Vorher schrieb ich es mit einem Punkt.

[bold sapphire]

wie trennst du die Zahlen in Gruppen von 3 Ziffern?

ich benutze Abstände

[proven sphinx]

1'000

Mit einem Apostroph.

[bold sapphire]

1 000

[proven sphinx]

In Deutschland geht auch 1.000 für 1000.

[bold sapphire]

sieht man selten

[proven sphinx]

Ja, es ist eine sehr schweizerische Schreibweise.

[bold sapphire]

das ist die offizielle Schreibweise

[proven sphinx]

Bei unserer Währung schreiben wir das aber immer mit einem Punkt. Es sind also 12.50 Fr. und nicht 12,50 Fr.

[bold sapphire]

auch ein Abstand zwischen Preis und Währung?

[proven sphinx]

Ja, genau.

Oder halt CHF 12.50.

[bold sapphire]

hier ists eher 12,50€

kein Abstand

[proven sphinx]

Hmm, interessant.

[bold sapphire]

oder, bei glatten Preisen:
1,-€

[proven sphinx]

Hier in der Schweiz gibt es halt ein komisches Durcheinander, wenn es um den Dezimalpunkt vs das Dezimalkomma geht. 🤷‍♂️

Es ist nicht gerade einheitlich.

[bold sapphire]

die Schweiz ist immer innerlich geteilt

[proven sphinx]

Das kannst du laut sagen, Alter. 😂

[bold sapphire]

mich wunderts aber das es überhaupt Durcheinander bei , und . gibt

weil alle Länder außenrum benutzen ,

[proven sphinx]

Wir sagen aber immer "zwei komma fünf" oder was auch immer. Die einzige Frage ist, ob das halt mit einem Punkt oder einem Komma dargestellt wird.

[bold sapphire]

wenn man schon Komma sagt dann machts auch Sinn Komma zu schreiben

meiner Logik nach

[proven sphinx]

Als Kind habe ich mich immer gewundert, wieso wir Komma sagen, aber einen Punkt schreiben. Erst als Erwachsener habe ich überhaupt davon erfahren, dass fast alle europäischen Länder das Dezimalkomma benutzen. 😂

[bold sapphire]

mich hats auch immer gewundert warum so viele Währungen vor dem Preis geschrieben werden obwohl meistens die Währung danach gesagt wird, z.B. $1 oder CHF 1

[proven sphinx]

Ja, das Ganze ist eigentlich ganz willkürlich.

[bold sapphire]

die beste Schreibweise wär eigentlich 1€50

sieht aber nicht so schön aus

oder einfach ungewohnt

[bold sapphire]

die Schweiz ist ein exotischer Ort

[proven sphinx]

In der Tat. 😂

[fervent veldt]

Dankeschön

[vital summit]

hallo, am morgen habe ich brot und eier. ist das richtig?

[proven sphinx]

"Zum Frühstuck habe ich Brot und Eier" oder "Am Morgen esse ich Brot und Eier".

[vital summit]

ahh danke schon

[proven sphinx]

"Ich habe Eier" wäre "I've got balls". 😅

I mean, it can literally mean "I've got some eggs" as well, but still...

[vital summit]

lmaoo

thats actually funny

[worldly portal]

Habe Eier aus Stahl? 😳

[charred ridge]

Hallo Leute, ich habe eine Frage, kennt jemand warum der Abend is im Akkusativ in diesem Satz?, Danke im voraus 🙏

Martina und Jens flirten den ganzen Abend miteinander.

[long whale]

Adverbial phrases of time are usually in Akkusativ. *... weiß jemand, warum... :)

[charred ridge]

Vielen Dank 🙏

[tardy kestrel]

do plural nouns always have "die" as the definite article?

[mellow nova]

for nominative and accusative, yes

but you don't always have to use the definite article, and it changes to den (+ n declension!! important) in dative and der in genitive

[tardy kestrel]

thanks!

<3

[tardy kestrel]

why is it "Die Hausaufgaben sind interessant" instead of ist?

ohh it's plural nvm

ich bin dumm

[shut briar]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6LEetGwsoDc0hVsoG0abOt?si=vJllhI0jTba7DlbnAWUtHQ

@13:42 one host asks worüber redet Deutschland? Ich kann es mir kaum denken

From the context i can tell it's, I can hardly remember

But sich denken in the dictionary doesnt havethat meaning

[lone sedge]

@shut briar I actually haven't heard it used that way or I can't remember. By context it seems to be "I have no idea"

[mellow nova]

Ich könnte mir denken is an expression

Maybe misspoke? Idk

[lone sedge]

Could be

"Ich habe Mühe mir vorzustellen, worüber Deutschland spricht" vielleicht

[mellow nova]

Yeah. 'I can hardly say' in English

[mellow nova]

This is probably a dumb question, but do you use the strong ending for neuter accusative? Because it's accusative, so it's clearly not maskulin. z.B für ein klein(es) Mädchen

[thorn pelican]

yes. ein kleines Mädchen

[tardy kestrel]

i have a question

so for the akkusativ

you'd say "er hat den Bleistift"

what if you make Bleistift plural

would it be "er hat die Bleistifte" or what?

😭 im gonna fail tomorrow

[mellow nova]

Yes

[plain umbra]

Plural is the same in nominative and accusative. It doesn't change between those.

[tardy kestrel]

yoo nice

[plain umbra]

If your test is only on nominative and accusative, then the only one that changes is masculine singular.

Everything else will stay the same.

[tardy kestrel]

thanks!

[plain umbra]

Np.

[fast sable]

“Ich denke sie krank ist” is this correct?

[solid hull]

Ich denke, dass sie krank ist.
Ich denke, sie ist krank.

[tardy kestrel]

is the ein changed into einen in the accusative when the word is neuter?

no, right

[mellow nova]

Correct

[tardy kestrel]

<3

[fast sable]

Thank u❤️

[solid hull]

Correct as in no, it isn’t
Just in case

[fervent kernel]

Does anyone know if you pay less for the C2 German Goethe exam, for example, if you already did B2 with them

Or is it the same

[cold rock]

I never saw such an option when I registered for my tests

[fervent kernel]

Ok

Asking just in case haha

[fervent kernel]

"Wir schenken der gesamten Familie Wein." could i also use "ganzen" here?

and what would be the difference

[fervent hollow]

Would this sentence be grammatically correct?

Ich solle nicht meine cereal gegessen haben

[long whale]

No. It doesn't even make any sense. I suspect you're trying to say "I shouldn't have eaten my cereal", correct? That would require Konjunktiv 2 in German - have you learnt about that yet?

[fervent hollow]

No

I should tho

[long whale]

Yes, you could. No difference.

[fervent hollow]

Wait i have

[long whale]

Well, in your sentence, you've also got a modal verb -> Konjunktiv 2 mit Modalverben. Here's a site: https://sprachekulturkommunikation.com/konjunktiv-2-mit-modalverben-in-der-gegenwart-und-vergangenheit/

[icy flax]

"Ich hab nach seiner Publikation gesucht, hatte aber nich viel Zeit, dann eine Zuschauerin hat noch zwei Kriegs weiter gemacht und gefunden."

Redensart?

[long whale]

That doesn't make the least bit of sense. 🤔

Source?

[fervent kernel]

thanks!!

[icy flax]

Später versuch ich es aufzunehmen und hier reinzupacken. (:

Genau "kriegs" hat er vllt nicht gesagt.

[fast sable]

”Wir werden nächstes Jahr die Tanzenstunden haben” - is this correct?

[long whale]

Since you've mentioned time, using the future tense with "werden" is pretty unidiomatic in German. You'd just use Präsens. And in German, it's usually singular: "Tanzstunde".

[fast sable]

Should it be like this then? : ”Wir haben die Tanzstunde nächstes Jahr”

[modest plover]

i would replace tanzstunden with tanzunterricht
because tanzstunde just means a lesson of dancing and tanzunterricht is more like you will be taught dancing.

and also remove the die because die refers to the exact one dancing lesson

[fast sable]

Ok!:)

And other than that the sentence is correct?

“Wir haben Tanzstunde/Tanzunterricht nächstes Jahr”

[modest plover]

almost correct you just need to change the order of the words a bit

like this:
Wir haben nächstes Jahr Tanzunterricht.

[fast sable]

Alrighty! :) I’m gonna go write this down. Thank u!❤️👍

[modest plover]

you're wecome

[noble yacht]

Grammar is right; meaning is that you have one lesson next year - is this right?

[jagged nexus]

Hi ich heiße Olaf und bin 0.1 jahr alt

[vital summit]

Hallo, ich esse jeden tag Brot und Eier oder ich esse Brot und Eier jeden tag?

[long whale]

1st one. :)

[vital summit]

Ah danke

[fast sable]

I meant one lesson per week

[dusty pendant]

real quick question
how would you handle past participles and stuff of compound verbs
like, would kennenlernen be kennengelernt?

how does that work

[wise pendant]

yes it would

[dusty pendant]

ty :)

[wise pendant]

yw

[noble yacht]

Then "Wir haben nächstes Jahr Tanzstunden"

[icy flax]

Wie sagt man "come out/off wrong"? Was falsch rüberkommen? Ihr könnt noch weitere Möglichkeiten nennen, je imgangsprachlicher desto besser find ich (:

[autumn marsh]

Das ist falsch rübergekommen.
Das kam jetzt sicher falsch rüber...?
Ich will nicht, dass das falsch rüberkommt

Ich will dir das nicht falsch rüberbringen.
Er hat das falsch rübergebracht.
Sie bringt das immer so komisch rüber, meint es aber nicht so.

passiv vs. aktiv:

[Subjekt] bringt etwas falsch rüber
[Objekt] wird falsch rübergebracht.

[Subjekt] kommt falsch rüber.
[Objekt] -

mit anderen Worten, "rüberkommen" kann man nicht in den Passiv setzen. Für passive Konstruktionen muss man rüberbringen verwenden.

[icy flax]

Verstanden, Ahcos!!

[celest gale]

hello! I have already started learning deutsch some time ago, without schedule or any willingness to do it. Any tips on what will ensure of my advancement? Any personal motivators/teachers? At this point anything will help, thanks 🙂

[fervent hollow]

How do you know whether you can use niemals, noch nie and noch?

[mellow nova]

This might have to be corrected, but I think niemals is like 'never not once' noch nie is like 'not yet ' and noch is a very complicated word but temporally means 'still'

[autumn marsh]

if you don't have any willingness, why are you learning it then oO

[autumn marsh]

this is basically correct.

niemals = never, the usage is basically the same
noch nie = this has not happened so far / not yet

noch = indeed complicated, but yes, it's used in the sense of "ongoing":

"Die Kinovorstellung läuft noch."
"Die Marathonläufer laufen noch."

In a temporal meaning, it can also be used together with nicht, which then means: not yet:

"Es ist noch nicht Zeit aufzustehen." > It's not yet time to stand up.

@fervent hollow

[mellow nova]

thanks for expanding 🙂 glad I kinda got it haha

[fervent veldt]

Could someone explain to me the difference when it comes to positioning objects? Or refer me to a source.

[prisma anchor]

this has some exercises which are mostly grammar, but it also shows the difference : https://www.easygermangrammarstories.de/grammatik/setzen-stellen-legen-haengen/

short: "Die Flasche steht" = the bottle is standing (upright), "Die Flasche liegt" = The bottle is lying (on its side), "Die Flasche hängt" = The bottle is hanging (on a rope or something like that)

stehen is like the state the bottle is in after someone put it there, stellen is the action that leads to that state. the same goes for the other pairs

with hängen it's a little different because both the action and the state the bottle is in afterwards are the same word

[long whale]

The difference between liegen and legen is exactly the same as between "to lie" and "to lay", if that helps. :)

[mellow nova]

No one knows the difference between those in English ngl

Most ppl just say lay

(No one is an exaggeration, ofc, but it is common)

[fervent veldt]

thank you so much guys

[snow bone]

How do you remember all the verbs with all the different prefixes

[mellow nova]

brain

[fallen galleon]

[acoustic breach]

Hallo alle,
Ich habe eine Frage
Ich weiß, dass man "Sie" bei der Höflichkeitsform nutzt. Aber ich habe manchmal großgeschriebenes "Du" oder "Ihr" gelesen, auch wenn eine einzige Person angeredet wird.

Was bedeutet "Du" oder "Ihr" in diesem Fälle?

[merry heart]

Du schreibt in der Höflichkeitsform "Sie", dass ist richtig, vor alledem bei Personen, welche du nicht kennst. Allerdings kann man Pronomen generell groß schreiben, wenn man eine Person bzw. Personengruppe anspricht, dass zählt auch als höfliche Geste, ist aber kein muss. Also um es nochmal mit eigenen Worten zu sagen, Du kannst diese Pronomen groß schreiben, es ist aber keine Pflicht.

[acoustic breach]

Artikel? meinst du die Pronomen "du"und "ihr"

[merry heart]

Tatsache

[acoustic breach]

ah ok

aber sagt man normalerweise "Ihr" auch, wenn man eine Person anspricht?
Ich habe gerade jetzt einen Film angeschaut. Die zwei Personen hat einander "Ihr"und "Euch" angesprochen

[lost hound]

Please can someone answer a question for me? I am learning low level German at the moment, however this phrase is confusing me. When trying to tell someone ''come tomorrow'', In German it is - ''Kommen sie morgen''. But why is this not just - ''kommen morgen''? Could you not just say the sentence without the ''sie''. I thought ''sie'' meant they/you so am confused as to why it belongs in this sentence...

[tawdry briar]

i think it's just a rule that u must have a subject in ur sentence

[prisma anchor]

yes, that

you could say "bitte morgen kommen!" but it's not very "nice" and sounds like something you'd type on your phone when you're in a hurry

[merry heart]

"Ihr" und "Euch" nur bei Gruppen, von mindestens 2 Personen

[acoustic breach]

Alles klar. Danke @merry heart !

[swift bough]

„Ihr“ is also the formal version of „dein“ and also „euer“

If you meant that

[acoustic breach]

hmm probably i have misunderstood the context of the film and mixed up the both of them

Because I thought that the people in the film called one another "Ihr" and "Euer xxx", not to a group but a single person
Ill check out the film again

( @pearl stag Falls es dich auch interessiert)

[fallow ledge]

Was this a fantasy film by any chance?

[acoustic breach]

Pirates of the carribean, dubbed XD

[fallow ledge]

Kiiiiinnndaaa then

Ihr (with a capital) is like a „Kings address“ its often seen in fantasy stuff

You can use it with one person

[acoustic breach]

I see!!!

Vielen Dank @fallow ledge !

[fallow ledge]

Bitte

[gleaming sedge]

I think you aren’t in Imperativsatz yet. That’s why you need a subject in all of your sentences.

[mellow nova]

Komm morgen is also correct, but it's a command, and so not very polite. Kommen Sie morgen is much more polite and means the same thing, and is what q school is going to teach you

[dry lava]

Wenn ich sagen will "Police interrogated me", benutze ich "verhören", "abfragen" oder "ausfragen"?
"Polizei hat mich verhört/abgefragt/ausgefragt"

Dankeschön

[dry lava]

Hallo.
Macht es Sinn?

Ich habe dich **beinahe **besiegt

[mellow nova]

I'm not positive, but I know fast is a more common word for almost

I think beinahe is more for things that were almost guaranteed

so depending on the context i guess?

[swift bough]

I almost never hear beinahe myself

[dry lava]

Danke!

[mellow nova]

vllt. würde 'hätte' statt 'habe' besser passen

[long whale]

No, the meaning is the same, I feel. :)

[dry lava]

Ist "hätte" nicht etwas, wie "would" in Englisch?
"I would almost defeat you"

[mellow nova]

would have

[dry lava]

ah

Es ist ein bisschen anders Sinn, als ich wollte. Ich wollte "I almost defeated you"

[mellow nova]

Konjunktiv II (hätten, wäre) is used for requests, an unreal condition, wishes, talk about something fanciful and indirect discourse

i believe it would fit better in this type of sentence

[swift bough]

Wouldn’t you at least agree that „fast“ much more common than „beinahe“ because I talk to multiple German friends on a regular basis and they really never even use it at all

Like really they probably haven’t even used it a single time

[long whale]

Of course, yes, fast is far more common.

[swift bough]

I wonder if it’s like that with the wile population or if it’s generational

Entire*

Ok that’s what i thought

[long whale]

Might be generational, yes. At least, I don't feel I never use "beinah/e". 🤷

[swift bough]

I talk to people from Germany who‘re close to / my same age, so

[long whale]

Nor do I feel it's one of those words which are just for written German. 🤷

[dry lava]

Okay. Lasst uns nur "fast" benutzen

[swift bough]

You can never go wrong with fast honestly

It’s everywhere

[dry lava]

Ich werde mich an diesen Wort halten

[swift bough]

Kinda makes me wonder…if I were to use „beinahe“ would the people of my generation think I’m speaking weirdly

Because I only talk to people my age

[long whale]

Just checked, yeah, used over 10 times as often.

[long whale]

No, you don't. :D

[dry lava]

Ich denke nicht, dass dieses Wort komisch ist. Ich hab es in einem Manga getroffen. Also scheint aus als ein normales Wort

[swift bough]

Lol……ok, you’re the outlier 😄

Actually

Btw what even is outlier in German, I’ve no idea

[long whale]

Ausreißer (coll.) - die Ausnahme [von der Regel]

[swift bough]

Thanks

Never needed that word in my life in Germany / German

[long whale]

*Es scheint also ein normales Wort zu sein (in case you're interested) :)

[swift bough]

The more you know I guess

[dry lava]

Sieht aus wie ein normales Wort
Kann ich so sagen?

[swift bough]

You know what’s funny…most likely, if I’d asked one of my friends I always talk to from Germany, they probably wouldn’t even know what „outlier“ even means

[long whale]

Unlike "Xylophon" is what I'd take that to mean. :)

[dry lava]

Hab nicht verstanden

[long whale]

That's a funny/weird-looking word: Es sieht nicht so aus wie ein normales Wort.

[dry lava]

Yeah. I wanted to say that it seems like a normal word

[long whale]

You said "Sieht aus wie ein normales Wort" -> means it doesn't look funny/weird. So, yes, you can say that, but in the context, it doesn't really work. @dry lava

[dry lava]

Why? I tried to convey that "beinahe" seems like a normal word

[long whale]

And I told you how to say that properly: #questions-2 message

[dry lava]

So "Sieht aus wie ein normales Wort" is ungrammatical?

[long whale]

No, it's fine, grammar-wise. It just doesn't work in the context.

[dry lava]

Ich denke nicht, dass dieses Wort komisch ist. Ich hab es in einem Manga getroffen. Also, es scheint aus, wie ein normales Wort

Exactly in this context it doesnt work, right?

[fervent kernel]

Why is it "Es ist kälter" and not "Es ist kälten" or "Es ist kälte"?

[long whale]

Because that's how German comparative works: it's colder = es ist kälter

[fervent kernel]

what is the case of the verb in sentences that dont have a subject? like "Machen das Licht an bitte!" for example.

[willow socket]

Machen Sie das Licht an bitte would be imperative.

Mach das Licht an//Macht das Licht an

[fervent kernel]

what if I just wanna say "turn on the light please" without the subject

[willow socket]

who are you talking to?

[fervent kernel]

no particular context

[willow socket]

ehm, then I cannot write it. I gave the three options for formulating imperative (Sie, du, and ihr)

[noble yacht]

Nearly, "Machen Sie das Licht bitte an" ^^

[willow socket]

I would've put bitte before das Licht 😂

never have positioned it properly on a regular basis

[fervent kernel]

both are correct right?

[noble yacht]

"Machen Sie bitte das Licht an"?

[noble yacht]

Yeah

[willow socket]

oh, great

[fervent kernel]

then I have no idea how to do the fifth sentence

nor the third one

can I just assume that it's "du"

[willow socket]

I guess any of the 3 would work, if they don't specify
Machen Sie das Licht an! (formal, speaking to one or more authority)
Mach das Licht an! (informal, speaking to one person you)
Macht das Licht an! (informal, speaking to many person you)

[noble yacht]

In the third one?

[fervent kernel]

in both 5th and 3rd because the subject is not given

I guess "Mach das Licht an" could work

[noble yacht]

No, you dont need "du" or something like that in both...

[noble yacht]

With bitte, right

||Mach das Licht bitte an||

[fervent kernel]

and the 3rd one can be "Bring mir ein Kilo Äpfel bitte mit!" right

[jolly sequoia]

I'd put the "bitte" after "mir" infront of the accusative: "Bring mir bitte ein Kilo Äpfel mit" (Same for "Mach bitte das Licht an") but I guess that could depend on the region you're living in 😄

[mellow nova]

Sometimes it changes the meaning a bit, no?

Könnten Sie mir bitte helfen is like asking them to please help but
Könnten Sie mir helfen bitte is like 'stop helping others and help me instead please'

[wooden laurel]

Ich befürchte, dass meine Bewerbung abgelehnt wird ist. Klingt es richtig?

[fallow ledge]

What tense are you after?

[wooden laurel]

i fear that my application is rejected

@fallow ledge

[fallow ledge]

I think i would go with

Ich befürchte, dass meine Bewerbung abgelehnt wurde

Which is a bit closer to „i fear that my application was rejected“

For is rejected, you could probably just use „ist abgelehnt“

Or „wird abgelehnt“ (if its still in the process)

[wooden laurel]

thank you. that would fit in the context more

[valid frost]

Halo

[ancient pulsar]

Is this sentence correct?

Du kannst mit dem Bus Nummer 6 fahren.

[golden saddle]

Sieht ok aus

[ancient pulsar]

another variation would be this: Du kannst Bus Nummer 6 nehmen.

right?

[ancient pulsar]

or fahren

[delicate tiger]

only if you are the driver

[golden saddle]

So fahren when you're the one driving the bus and nehmen when you get on the bus?

[ancient pulsar]

no, i dont want to imply this, so i assume if i want to use fahren then i need to use mit dem too

[ancient pulsar]

Du kannst mit dem Bus Nummer 6 fahren.
Du kannst Bus Nummer 6 nehmen.
Du kannst Bus Nummer 6 fahren (only if you are the driver).

thank you btw :D

[willow socket]

usually you would rather say something like 'mit der Buslinie 6' oder einfach 'mit der 6'

[ancient pulsar]

oh thanks

appreciate

[steel patrol]

When saying it out loud, would you say "mit der sechs" or "mit der sechsten"?

[willow socket]

mit der (Linie) Sechs

[steel patrol]

Ok, cheers

[pulsar yarrow]

Linie sagen wir nie

nur die Zahl des Busses

[bold lagoon]

Hello guys, I have a little question. why we say "Ich gehe zur Arbeit" and not "Ich gehe zu die Arbeit" ?

[willow socket]

zu is a dative preposition. It always needs to be used with the dative version of the article. in this case die Arbeit (nom)--> der Arbeit (dat)

[fallen galleon]

zu takes always the dative

[willow socket]

zu + der = zur

[bold lagoon]

But there is a movement in our verb

[willow socket]

that only matters with two-way prepositions. Zu is not a two-way preposition, but a dative preposition

[fallen galleon]

.

[bold lagoon]

oh ok

[dry lava]

Cool prompt

[fallen lily]

der Nachbarn, does that become die Nachbarnin for a female neighbor?

[swift bough]

der Nachbar*

Nachbarin

[fallen lily]

thank you!

[swift bough]

Nachbarn is just the Plural

[fallen lily]

oh right, that makes sense

[willow socket]

it's also the n-declination

[mellow nova]

What if there's multiple but they're all female

[swift bough]

Nachbarinnen

[mellow nova]

Now do if you're wanting to be inclusive

[swift bough]

In German the masculine word for this kind of thing is also gender neutral btw

[mellow nova]

Not for much longer

Soon the *innen will take over

[swift bough]

Lol…it’s not going to change

[willow socket]

Yeah, most of the time now if you want to be gender neutral you make the effort to write 'Nachbar*innnen'

[swift bough]

It’s been part of German for at least a thousand years

[mellow nova]

It's already changing online

[willow socket]

I would say that 80% of the german emails I get and even tons of advertisements now have the sternchen.

[swift bough]

Nobody is forced to conform that’s the thing

[willow socket]

It is extremely normalised.

[mellow nova]

Who said forced

Why victimize yourself xd

[swift bough]

Unless you’re a company trying to be as polite as humanly possible

[mellow nova]

I just said it's changing

[willow socket]

It is changing. And many young people who aren't businesses write that way as well 🙂

[teal mica]

I think it makes sense for certain things, but certainly not for all the use-cases it's being shoehorned into right now.

[swift bough]

My point is just this: out of all the Germans I talk to, when they’re actually speaking, nobody, not even the girls (yes I know quite a few German girls 😳) make any effort to actually say „Nachbar*innen“

[teal mica]

also, it sounds ugly and looks ugly.

[willow socket]

I personally like it, but I can't tell if I like it because it's inclusive or because it annoys people who don't like being inclusive.

[swift bough]

Exactly

It sounds so forced when speaking

[mellow nova]

Yes

[swift bough]

When it’s written

I don’t mind at all

I think it’s nice

Spoken? Nah

[willow socket]

I don't hear it spoken much either. Most of the time spoken I think I would hear 'Nachbarn und Nachbarinnen' or something like that.

[swift bough]

Dude seriously

[willow socket]

rather than trying to speak out a sternchen

[swift bough]

I would always choose that over that

Meine lieben Nachbarn und Nachbarinnen

I would use this all the time

[mellow nova]

Isn't the sternchen just a glottal stop

[swift bough]

Unless I’m writing

This is what’s really nice about English. You can’t argue that „neighbor“ refers to only one gender

[willow socket]

no idea 😅 I honestly just use the female version with no stop at all. i.e. straight 'Nachbarinnen' no matter what gender the group is composed of. Can make up for a few (or more) centuries this way

[swift bough]

Because it doesn’t

[mellow nova]

English is the same for gendered nouns

But that's because of Latin

[swift bough]

The problem is without a stop, people don’t think you’re referring to everyone, rather to just the women

[mellow nova]

Idk if germans is also Latin influence

[teal mica]

For what it's worth, I would limit its use to official papers (governmental stuff etc.) and perhaps signs.
In the end, forcing it upon everyone is lost effort because - as BMVI pointed out - almost nobody gives a sliver of a fuck. Only those who are too narrow-minded to find actual discrimination against females (which is definitely a thing in Germany, sadly) try to push this through at all costs.

[mellow nova]

A group of actors is just actors

[swift bough]

This

[willow socket]

I've not had any issues with it before, and I also don't give a sliver of a fuck 😂

[mellow nova]

Didn't german completely overhaul and change their pronunciation of r just a few centuries ago

[swift bough]

🤷‍♂️

[swift bough]

Not sure

[mellow nova]

Idk why it seems unlikelt

German and French both

[willow socket]

rechtschreibreform 2025 here we commmmme

[swift bough]

What

To change what

[willow socket]

change the 'r' back

[swift bough]

What did it used to be

[willow socket]

who knows, but it couldn't have been harder to pronounce than the 'r' now

[swift bough]

The current R wasn’t ever hard for me, kinda came naturally somehow

[mellow nova]

Alveolar r

[willow socket]

3+ years and I still miss the catch in my throat when an r is at the beginning of a word sometimes

[mellow nova]

Like in south Germany I think?

[teal mica]

Because using the trilled R is kind of hard considering its position in the words.

[willow socket]

then it sounds dumb af

[mellow nova]

I can't say words like Brot well

[swift bough]

It just wasn’t hard for me to learn 🤷‍♂️

[mellow nova]

Swapping sides of the mouth with double consonants

[teal mica]

It isn't, I agree, but it's imo harder than using the actual "standard German" R. I might be biased because I do not live in a region where you actually "roll" the R to this day.

So I hardly ever use it

[mellow nova]

which would be swabia right

[swift bough]

Wait what

I said the „current R“

Not the old one

The one Germans actually use today wasn’t hard for me to learn

[teal mica]

This implied to me that u were talking about the rolled R.

My bad.

[swift bough]

Maybe you didn’t see me here say „current R“

[teal mica]

The entire south of Germany prefers to use the rolled R.

[swift bough]

That being said…I can’t do a grilled R

Literally at all

Trilled*

[teal mica]

It's fair to say that it is not as strong as Spanish rr (which is absolutely crazy).

It kind of feels like a DT spoken really fast. Brot => B -DT-OT

[mellow nova]

Alveolar tap

[teal mica]

yes

the tap is basically "a singly rolled R" (though, phonetically, it might not be a flawless correlation)

[swift bough]

I mean I can do that

But like

I have been to bavaria like 3 times. There are people who pronounce it really crazy sounding

And it isn’t just a single tap all the time

[teal mica]

exactly

[mellow nova]

Linguistics are so cool

[dry grotto]

Hello, can you please go quickly through my homework and correct my mistakes
It is email to a company that offer meeting with foreign people in order to practise language
Tha mail:
Hallo
Ich habe das Inserat gelesen und möchte an das Tandem-Sprachen teilnehmen. Ich heiße Klaudia und komme aus Tschechische Republik, aber Jetzt bin Ich für zwei Monate in Deutschland. Ich spreche am Besten Tschechisch und kann ein Bisschen Englisch und Deutsch sprechen. Ich könnte meine Tandempartnerin oder meinen Tanderpartner in Park treffen, weil spazieren in der Natur meine Hobby ist.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Klaudia Bezdoprdelová

[noble yacht]

Hallo,
Ich habe das Inserat gelesen und möchte an dem Tandem-Sprachen-Programm (?) teilnehmen. Ich heiße Klaudia und komme aus der tschechischen Republik, bin aber aktuell für zwei Monate in Deutschland. Ich spreche am Besten Tschechisch und kann ein bisschen Englisch und Deutsch. Ich könnte meine Tandempartnerin oder meinen Tandempartner im Park treffen, weil spazieren in der Natur mein Hobby ist.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Klaudia (...; be carefully with your last Name on discord!)

[dry grotto]

that was random name 😄

[noble yacht]

Ah, good 👍

[dry grotto]

thank you very much

Tandem Sprachen Program that sound better

ty

[acoustic breach]

Hello,
how do you type the quotation mark at the bottom :0

[solid hull]

what did it use to be*

[swift bough]

Not gonna lie didn’t know that

[solid hull]

when I was a kid i didnt knew either

[swift bough]

I double checked when to use use to vs used to

Honestly no English native really knows that and nobody corrects you for that lol

[teal mica]

Use the German locale. The position of quotation marks are locale-dependent.

[solid hull]

yeah it's something u don tthink about

[reef kiln]

When do we capitalize after " : "?

[autumn hare]

Hallo! Sagt ihr "Es ist falsch, konstatiert er" oder " Es ist falsch, er konstatiert?"

[delicate tiger]

"konstatieren" ist veraltet und sollte nicht benutzt werden

[autumn hare]

Ah ok danke! Aber, wenn man "sagen" benutzt

"sagt er" oder" er sagt"?

[fallow ledge]

My keyboard does it automatically

[fervent veldt]

What is the closest translation of beeindruckend

[slate bloom]

That would be "impressive", I think.

[fallen galleon]

know*

[solid hull]

Right over ya head

[slate bloom]

"für die Deutschsprachige unter euch..." - 'deutschprachig' in diesem Fall mit kleinem oder großem Buchstaben? mein ewiges Dillemma

[fallow ledge]

Ich würde es großschreiben, und ich würde auch noch ein n ans Ende stellen

Die Deutschsprachigen unter euch

Da es ein nominalisiertes Adjektiv ist

[slate bloom]

ah stimmttt, ich habe mich versehen! danke!!

[flint marlin]

Wie kann man eine Vorbedingung ohne 'wenn' ausdrücken? zB, auf Englisch kann man so sagen: 'should you need help, you can always ask me' oder 'should you make a mistake, you cannot complain about it'.
Wie kann man diese Sätze auf Deutsch sagen? Vielleicht wird der Konjunktiv 2 (oder der Konjunktiv 1) hier verwendet? Danke im voraus!

[fervent veldt]

What does Führung in spoken language_

[autumn marsh]

what is your question?

[autumn marsh]

Sollten Sie Hilfe benötigen/brauchen, können Sie mich jederzeit fragen.

Sollten Sie einen Fehler machen, können Sie sich darüber nicht beschweren.

Konjunktiv passt da nicht. Das deutsche Äquivalent zu "shall" ist "sollen," und genauso wie im Englischen wird es in die Vergangenheitsform gesetzt (Should / Sollte) und dann genauso verwendet

Das kann man eigentlich auch häufig genauso verwenden:

Should i clean my room? Sollte ich mein Zimmer aufräumen/saubermachen?
I should go now. Ich sollte jetzt gehen.

I shouldn't have done this. >> Das muss man anders ausdrücken: Das hätte ich nicht machen sollen - einfach weil es in der Vergangenheit steht, daher braucht man das Hilfsverb "haben"

[flint marlin]

Ausgezeichnete Erklärung! Danke schön, ich habe das Konzept gut verstanden =)

[fallow ledge]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen Bescheid geben und Bescheid sagen

[icy flax]

Beides hat die gleiche Bedeutung und kann in allen Situationen benutzt werden. Doch "Bescheid geben" wird häufiger benutzt, wenn man selbst die Information erhalten will, "Bescheid sagen", wenn eine andere Person die Information erhalten soll.
bspw: Gib mir bitte Bescheid, wenn Papa nach Hause kommt; Sag Papa Bescheid, dass das Essen fertig ist.

Bescheid geben kann muendlich, schriftlich, in Zeichensprache, durch Boten oder sonstige Kommunikationsmedien geschehen. Bescheid sagen ist immer muendlich.
25.08.2006

"Bescheid sagen" scheint mir auch informeller: Ich sage meiner Mutter schnell Bescheid, dass ich sie am Bahnhof abholen werde. Ich gebe aber einem Brautpaar Bescheid, dass wir zur Hochzeit nicht kommen können. Aber dies mag eine persönliche Gewohnheit sein...

Ich glaube auch, dass die Förmlichkeit von "Bescheid geben" ein Sekundäreffekt ist. Man benutzt es in Zusammenhängen häufiger, die den Kommunikationsweg offen lassen, und das sind eben die formelleren Vorgänge.

"Gib mal Bescheid, wenn Ihr zum Essen geht", sagt man nicht, denn der Typ kommt ja dann wirklich rein und sagt: "Bescheid!" Bei der Bewerbung: "Sagen Sie uns bitte Bescheid, wenn Sie sich für die Stelle entschieden haben." Da wird wirklich ein Anruf erwartet und nicht ein Grußkärtchen.

[fallow ledge]

Bescheid!

Danke dir Voodoo, es freut mich zu wissen, dass ich in einer Aufgabe, die ich eben abgegeben habe, Bescheid sagen richtig benutzt habe 🥰

Auch wenn es keinen allzu erheblichen Unterschied zwischen den Beiden gibt

[icy flax]

Es ist dein Sprachgefühl, liebe Blu!! Gut gemacht! Boom boom boom!!

[dusty pendant]

are there any sort of guidelines, however fuzzy, about when you do and don't put a T at the end of verbs in 2nd person singular imperative?

like, gib vs gibt
etc.

[deft lion]

What do mean by Imperative. Ordering somebody to do something?

[dusty pendant]

ye

for most verbs, as far as I know
in the 2nd person singular
you just take away the -en off of them and you SOMETIMES put a T at the end

but i don't understand when you do or don't

[long whale]

Things are usually capitalized after ":", unless it's just a single word, for example. In this particular case, capitalization is optional. :) See D93 2. here: https://www.duden.de/sprachwissen/rechtschreibregeln/Groß- und Kleinschreibung#D93

[long whale]

Unless I'm missing something, there is never a T at the end of 2nd person singular imperative. There is one at the end of 2nd person plural imperative, though. :)

[deft lion]

Yeh

[dusty pendant]

ooooh

then i guess i got myself mixed up

thank you! :)

[deft lion]

Always ask away mate ;)

[dusty pendant]

i probably misread that, then

they're both 2nd person

the more i learn about german the simpler it seems to me

but the more complicated the parts i DON'T know get xD

[reef kiln]

Thank you!!

[fervent kernel]

Is this correct?

[willow socket]

no, unfortunately not

[deft lion]

Not really

[swift bough]

If you want to know how to say…whatever it is you’re trying to say, try out DeepL translator.

[mellow nova]

I kinda got the gist of it until angebaut

[ancient pulsar]

Wait, why is it est?

[mellow nova]

Typo

[ancient pulsar]

Worst place to make a typo

Some might take it seriously

[long whale]

Same as in English: "What time is it?" Doesn't work without the es/it.

[ancient pulsar]

no

i mean it is es't'

i know we need es, but i thought es't' was something else

[long whale]

It's just a typo. :)

[granite spade]

From Dead by Daylight (a game known to have shoddy translations in German): "Auren Überlebender werden dir 3 Sekunden lang angezeigt, wenn...blah blah"

My question is: can we use nouns in the genitive like this?

Auren [der] Überlebender

?

[whole portal]

Yes we can

And no, it's not [der]

Because that would be Überlebenden

[granite spade]

Yeah

[fringe marsh]

Where's that map from if you don't mind

[ancient pulsar]

was posted on this server

[mellow nova]

I like cyprus

E🐟a

[quick tundra]

I like this map but the shades are absolutely terrible

[ancient pulsar]

yes

[lime python]

Do any of you know a reliable website where i can test my german proficiency

[long whale]

Online tests are never very reliable, since 2 of the 4 abilities (speaking and writing) aren't tested at all. :)

That said, you can always go to some language school - I think even the Goethe Institute - and do a test to find out which level they'd put you in if you wanted to participate in one of their courses. :)

[lime python]

Thanks

[graceful trail]

What's a good textbook for beginners?

[graceful trail]

Danke

[fervent kernel]

Why does this sentence have two mit's ''Komm mit mir mit'' ?

Its translated as Come with me

[swift bough]

The entire construction is „mit jemandem mitkommen“

[delicate tiger]

"mit jemandem mitkommen"

[swift bough]

You can also just say „komm mal mit“ you don’t have to actually use „mit mir“

[fervent kernel]

Ok I'm watching a movie and the girl said that

[cobalt thistle]

Ist es normal wenn leute "dafür" in "da" und "für" trennen (z.B. "Da muss man sich für anmelden.") ? Also ich meine ich habs mal gehört aber klingt iwie komisch... Hochdeutsch ist es wahrscheinlich nicht, aber spricht man so überhaupt?

[prisma anchor]

Ja tut man

Zumindest da wo ich herkomme

[cobalt thistle]

Wo kommst du denn her?

[lime crater]

is it das,der,die for 'bäckerei'

[cobalt thistle]

Die

[lime crater]

okay thank youu

[pallid sand]

what's the pronunciation of holdenkobold?

sorry, didn't see #pronunciation

[languid valve]

https://forvo.com/word/hodenkobold/

[pallid sand]

thanks

[prisma anchor]

Rheinland Pfalz, aber sei unbesorgt, man wird diese Trennungen überall verstehen 🙂

[keen bison]

Hi all! I’m looking for a language exchange partner for German if anyone is understand. My German level is very low, but I speak Russian and Spanish alright, and I also studied a bit of Biblical Hebrew, so if you’re interested in any of those we may be a good match! (And English of course). I’m interested in geography, economics, maps, data science, collecting outdated music and movie medium, etc. please dm me if you’re interested! Danke 🇩🇪🇨🇭🇱🇺🇦🇹

[cobalt thistle]

Ooh okay. I hatte gefragt denn ich wohne in ffm und höre es hier 😄

[granite spade]

In an older German poem I see "ihr las't"

Is this "ihr laset"?

[plain umbra]

If it's okay, can you post the full line? I'm just curious about it.

[wise pendant]

Diese Trennung ist der übliche Weg im Plattdeutschen (gewesen).
Ist also in nördlicheren Regionen üblicher als im Süden, würde ich schätzen.

[granite spade]

Ihr kundige las't kein schauern · las't kein lächeln ·
Wart blind für was in dünnem schleier schlief

[fervent kernel]

is "Ich schenke meinem Vater ein Auto zum Geburtstag." correct or is "Ich schenke zum Geburtstag meinem Vater ein Auto." correct?

[noble yacht]

First one is right ^^

[long whale]

Yes, looks like an unconventional spelling of the Präteritum of "lesen", 2nd person plural - which would simply be "[ihr] last" in modern spelling. Since George didn't capitalize the nouns, it may have been done to differentiate between the above verb form and the noun "die Last" (the load), which gets a short A, unlike the Präteritum of "lesen", where the A is long. :)

[fervent kernel]

Why is it "sie kommen morgen an" and not "sie ankommen morgen" ?

Why do you split the verb?

[delicate tiger]

because. It's language, trying to find a reason for everything will lead to madness

[fervent kernel]

@delicate tiger Is there a rule for when you should separate a verb?

[icy flax]

Aint not a bad Directing, but yeah, there are rules.
https://deutsch.lingolia.com/en/grammar/verbs/separable-verbs

[grave bloom]

Hallo Leute. Ich habe eine Frage. In dem Satz "Wann beißt du denn nun endlich der Neuen die Nase ab, hm?", ist "der Neuen" im Genitiv? Ist das im Nominativ "die Neue"? Wir reden hier über ein Mädchen...

[lone sedge]

Es ist Dativ. Ja "die Neue" ist der passende Nominativ.

[grave bloom]

ok, danke

[ancient pulsar]

Die erste rechts

(to the) Right from the first turn

is this translation correct?

[wise pendant]

No, it's more like
"Turn right at the first crossing"

However if you meant that, you are right

[ancient pulsar]

I meant turn right ~~from ~~ on the first turn

like this :D

[wise pendant]

I'm not sure about that formulation. Might be my fault. I'd have said "turn right on the first turn" not "from" tho Im not sure

[ancient pulsar]

yeah actually

sorry for bed england

[wise pendant]

Yes this is whats meant!

[ancient pulsar]

ok thanks

that was helpful

[fast sable]

“Wir ziehen in neue Wohnung nächste Woche ein” is this correct?

[whole portal]

no

„Wir ziehen nächste Woche in [die, eine] neue Wohnung ein.”

[wise pendant]

The original word order would also be fine, if you want to emphasise it differently

[dusty pendant]

Quick question; Third person singular pronouns have me a bit confused at the moment
I thought you could say "es" for everything but I appear to have been disproven

my native language has that in the same exact way, but I want to make sure I understand how it works

so [with context and all], would "Der Kaffee ist gut" be the same as "Er ist gut"? Or would it be "Es ist gut"?

[ancient pulsar]

I have seen people calling a shirt ihn, er and etc

native speakers i mean

[wise pendant]

yep, usually pronouns get chosen based on the original gender

[dusty pendant]

hehe.. uhm...
" usually" ? :D

are there exceptions?

[wise pendant]

not that I know of. You could safely assume the "usually" wasn't there 😄

[dusty pendant]

thank god

i wouldn't want to have exceptions when regarding german grammatical gender

[rose gazelle]

Evening folks

Can someone help me with something please , I used GT but idk im unsure about the translation

“handgefertigter Individualschmuck mit Ihrem Namen, Schriftzug oder Design, versandkostenfrei ab 2 Artikeln innerhalb Deutschlands. Bestellen Sie jetzt direkt über die Nachricht für Ihre individuelle y2k-Halskette”. Can someone please help me figure out if this is correctly written ?