questions-2

[cloud bridge]

im struggling to find places that i can learn german for free that isn't you tube

or nicos weg

[plush pelican]

#resources

The Google Doc there has a ton of free resources

But also: What's wrong with YouTube and Nicos Weg?

Have you watched YourGermanTeacher?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKCEuz6wxDQnM6p0MzAKc_stZHGW0tdCB

[cloud bridge]

i prefer reading

[plush pelican]

There's plenty of websites explaining grammar

https://germanstudiesdepartmenaluser.host.dartmouth.edu/
https://chatterbug.com/grammar/german
https://wisc.pb.unizin.org/readinggerman/

[frigid perch]

What is the difference between ,,Davor" and ,,Bevor" as in "Before"

?

[ebon hemlock]

here's a few examples (in german, translating in english)
davor habe ich brot gegessen (english: before that, I ate bread)
bevor ich spazieren gegangen bin, war ich auf der Toilette (in english: before I went on a walk, I sat on the toilet)

im sorry if that wasn't understandable enough, I'll try my best to make you understand it

[fervent kernel]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen eintreten und antreten?

[plush pelican]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygn5MpppC_w

[fervent kernel]

Danke, dabei wirds unbedingt hilfreich

[old roost]

I see a noun Die Kunde means lore but is it common?

[lean ravine]

that´s a lot of treten

[lusty scaffold]

Hallo ich lerne gerade deutsch.wie geht's ihnen

?

[frosty stone]

Gut, gut, und dir?

[calm shell]

Hallo

[radiant fable]

Hi, everyone. I'm looking for materials for the B2 level. If anyone can share, I'd appreciate it.

[plush pelican]

B2 is where you start having to google stuff in German

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ-TkWUCZ2SJudLprU-L9I7uaoHo4APyj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD7ULFOE0SM

https://mein-deutschbuch.de/konjunktiv-2.html

https://mein-deutschbuch.de/nominalisierung.html

This kind of stuff

You can find all sorts of stuff, if you google

[icy flax]

Korrekte Rechtschreibung von nominalisierten Adjektiven

1. Nominalisierte Adjektive werden großgeschrieben.
2. Adjektive werden nominalisiert, wenn sie nicht direkt vor einem Nomen stehen, sondern auf einen Artikel, ein Pronomen oder ein Zahlwort folgen.
3. Falls im Vorsatz das Nomen genannt wird, auf das sich das Adjektiv bezieht, wird es jedoch wiederum kleingeschrieben.

Wäre der folgende Satz diesen Regeln nach richtig? Ich weiß nicht was mit "im Vorsatz" gemeint wird, etwa dass es kleingeschrieben wird, wenn der bezogene Nomen schon da in dem letzten Satz ist?

Obwohl er viele sehr schöne Hosen verschiedener Farben hat, passt ihm gut nur die Braune.

[plain umbra]

So basically, it's nominalised if the adjective is being used itself as the noun. But it's not capitalised if it's actually just a situation where the noun is something else but just not being explicitly written.

In your example sentence I would say it should be written small: braune. That's because the noun is Hosen, not Braune.

[plain umbra]

To explain a bit more about it, a nominalised adjective, the capitalised one, represents its own thing. Like it refers to a specific thing, person, etc. by itself. It's not being used to just add a description to something. So like for example, "die Deutschen" refers to people from Germany. That's its own thing that makes sense by itself. Same as die Alten referring to elderly people. "Elderly people" is the whole thing being referred to there, it stands by itself to describe what the idea is. But if you talk about a German city vs a French city, the "thing" is a city, and German/French is just used to add a description to the city. You might say "Die deutsche Stadt ist größer als die französische" but either way the thing is "Stadt" and the adjectives wouldn't make sense by themselves to describe that.

[plain umbra]

To clarify that suggestion: Hammers Grammar is a grammar reference book, not a German learning textbook.

[plain umbra]

Chill... This isn't a place for venting about what your personal dislikes are regarding learning materials. Everyone can choose for themselves what materials they want to use, but it's useful for them to know what kind of materials they are. Knowing that Hammers is a reference book and not a textbook helps people know what to expect if they decide to check it out.

Starting with simple sentences and common vocab is a very typical way to learn and definitely useful for most people.

[hushed dawn]

if i want to say "at the expense of something"
common way to say so is "zulasten + gen / zu Lasten + gen" ?

[icy flax]

Thanks, Base! I feel I got what you mean, but I do not feel safe enough to nominalize adjectives now. I guess I will just keep reading and recalling what you said.

[tawdry pecan]

Hat jemand das kontext c1.1 buch als pdf ?

[frigid bramble]

Ja und auch "auf Kosten von" + Dativ oder "auf Kosten" + Gen https://www.linguee.de/englisch-deutsch/uebersetzung/at+the+expense+of.html

[spark fable]

Wieso komme ich in die Sprachkanäle unten nicht rein ?

[fervent kernel]

Is there a difference between "drin" and "drinne"?

[fervent kernel]

Es dauert 60 Minuten, glaube ich.

[spark fable]

Danke

[jade hawk]

Gibt es eine Nachrichtenwebseite, die eine Text-to-speech Funktion hat? Sowas wie Der Spiegel. Ich habe Tagesschau und ZDF Heute gecheckt, sie bieten keine solche Funktion

[narrow pier]

Hallo Leute,

Was ist den Unterschied zwischen Akkusativ und Dativ im Allgemein und beziehungsweise in diesem Beispiel:

(Höre mir an) und (Sehe mich an)

Ich habe es nachgeschaut und Akkusativ wird für das direktes und Dativ für das indirekte Objekt verwendet

Ist das richtig?

Vielen Dank im Voraus!

[south zenith]

Ich glaube dass „höre mir an“ falsch ist, es gibt „höre mich an“ und „höre mir zu“

Jemanden anhören
Jemandem zuhören

[misty gull]

"höre mir an" gibt es auch. Wenn man es z.b. so benutzt
"Ich höre mir einen podcast an"

I listen to a podcast

[south zenith]

Ach ja du hast recht wenn es ein anderes Objekt gibt, ich habe das gestellt als wär man das Objekt

[misty gull]

👍

[fervent kernel]

Hello, I know many have recommended Nicos Weg but I find it boring is there any other resource that can help me learn German? I would really appreciate it

[plain umbra]

Please only ask in one channel at a time.

[fervent kernel]

My message got hidden due to the amount of messages sent after it though

[plain umbra]

Then delete it before reposting elsewhere.

[fervent kernel]

ok

[fervent kernel]

i cant find the message anywhere I sware I snet in in the questions channel

I cant find it tho

[plush pelican]

Have you checked the literal channel named #resources ?

[fervent kernel]

Duh

[plush pelican]

the pinned Google Doc?

[fervent kernel]

Yea

i see all the language courses

[plush pelican]

You've gone through all of those resources and can't use any of them?

I doubt this

[plush pelican]

The Google Doc has more than just courses

[fervent kernel]

Ich weiß

[plain umbra]

It sounds like what you're looking for is something quite specific, if none of the sources in the document were suitable.

So I don't think it will be possible for people to give advice unless you can ask more specifically.

Can you explain exactly what you are looking for?

[fervent kernel]

Yeah sorry I am being very unspecific

I think I didn't fully read the google document I am sorry it's just most of the resources I stumble across I find boring and I am not sure if that is a problem with myself

Because everyone says language learning is supposed to be fun

I find the resources I have used boring

I really do want to enjoy language learning

I already used a grammar textbook - I got through half of it but got so bored so stopped using it

then I used Nicos Weg but it was so boring too

[plain umbra]

It's not that language learning is meant to be fun, but rather that making it fun will make it easier to do it. If you wait around for it to be fun, you won't get anywhere.

[fervent kernel]

How do you keep going on

When it gets hard/boring

Because I really was so motivated to learn

I dont know what happened

But I am losing my motivation/discipline

[plain umbra]

I personally just enjoy learning so it's not too bad for me. But generally a common thing people talk about is that they just force themselves to do the tasks regardless of whether it's fun or not.

[fervent kernel]

I sound like such a lazy bum bro 😭

[fervent kernel]

I see

[fervent kernel]

I like learning too!

It's just like the grammar stuff

THATS like

ALL IVE BEEN doing for the last 10 days

And it is getting SO boring

[plain umbra]

Then do different tasks.

You don't have to do the same thing every day.

[fervent kernel]

So what I am trying now is I changed all my devices to german

[fervent kernel]

yeah

[plain umbra]

That's not going to really help you here.

[fervent kernel]

How?

[plain umbra]

It will probably make it worse if anything.

[fervent kernel]

What

Why

I learned more already

Einstellungen is settings

Abbrechen is cancel

[plain umbra]

There's nothing wrong with changing your devices to German, but what are you expecting to learn that way? It won't magically make it fun or interesting or teach you relevant phrases.

[fervent kernel]

just words I guess

Teilen is share

[plain umbra]

You can't speak German by just learning technology terms.

[fervent kernel]

Yeah I guess but its useful for vocab right?

[plain umbra]

Barely.

[fervent kernel]

You're right

Then what do I do

A youtuber said to change the language on all my decies for langauge immersion

So I listened to him

Bro the sheer amount of resources is actually overwhelming

[plain umbra]

And the reason why I said it might make it worse is that you're giving yourself a pointless and tedious hurdle. If your problem is motivation, making it harder to use your devices is not exactly a sensible approach to solving it.

[fervent kernel]

Yeah makes sense

What should I do then bro

Im sorry if I sound like a baby

Im just really upset rn

I was so excited to learn German

and now my motivation seemingly dissappeared in thin air

[plain umbra]

Have you watched this one? https://discord.com/channels/221708975698083841/1063772702617370724

[fervent kernel]

And the amount of resources is so much that picking one is hard

I only watched the first 10 minutes but it all seemed like general advice that was obvious

Like - create a study plan

[plush pelican]

I mean, the beginning is when language learning is the most unfun, because you can't really use the language. After B1 or so, when you start being able to read stuff and watch stuff in the language, that is when it starts getting fun

[fervent kernel]

choose more than one resource

[fervent kernel]

yeah man like the stuff I was learning is SO BORING i got so burnt out

I learned all the highlighted stuff so far

[plush pelican]

You know what they say: Motivation comes and goes. Discipline is what keeps you going

[fervent kernel]

I just couldn't keep on going

[plush pelican]

Have you tried writing sentences in German?

[fervent kernel]

It is just so

Boring

Yea

[plush pelican]

like r/WriteStreakGerman?

[fervent kernel]

What is that?

Sounds cool

[plush pelican]

It's a subreddit

you write 1 post per day

[fervent kernel]

yes I will do

[plush pelican]

you can choose the topic, or there is a given topic you can pick if you want

and you just write

[fervent kernel]

Oh

I will do it then

[plush pelican]

Every day you keep going, you add to your streak

[fervent kernel]

Bro thanks

[plush pelican]

But if you miss a day, you have to restart your streak

[fervent kernel]

Can I talk to you later I have to eat dinner right now

[plush pelican]

ok

[fervent kernel]

You are giving me good advice

Really appreciate it bro

Thank you

Discipline > Motivation

I will ask you when I come back though

How do you build your discipline or how do you actually be disciplined

that might sound like a stupid question im sorry

[plush pelican]

I thought you had to go

Top advice: Schedule a time to do German. Don't say, "I'll do it when I have time", say, "This is the time where I will definitely do German each day"

And then do something, even if it's only 5 minutes, but do something with German at that time, every day

I often find that I can trick my brain

I will tell myself, "I'll just work on this for 5 minutes, and afterwards, I can quit if I want"

and I start, and once I'm 5 minutes in, I want to keep going

but it's the starting that's hard

so, lying to yourself can be good

or, even if it really is only 5 minutes, if it's 5 minutes on that time when you said you're going to do German, that's good

It takes 3 weeks to build a habit. The first 3 weeks are you manually having to tell yourself to do it

after that, it's making sure you keep doing it, so that you don't fall out of the habit

I find something like r/WriteStreakGerman good, because I fear losing my streak, and that motivates me to do shit even on days that I really don't feel like it

and keep in mind: Every day doesn't have to be hitting it out of the park with studying

Some days, you're firing on all cylinders, and you really get it done

Some days, just showing up and doing a little bit is good

[plain umbra]

Can you please try watching the whole thing? I think you will get some good ideas from it.

[fervent kernel]

alright, ill try

[fervent kernel]

I did

[fervent kernel]

Thank you for this

I do the same thing with practicing guitar

I tell myself only for 5 min

once I start playing I go even more

@plush pelican

Anything else

like

Now that I have discipline

what do I actually even use bro

[plush pelican]

So, with r/WriteStreakGerman, you put the number of your streak in your post header

[fervent kernel]

besides r/WriteStreakGerman

yea I saw it

bro someone has 1301 streak

[plush pelican]

you get 1 pause break per 7 days

[plush pelican]

I'm on 1110

[fervent kernel]

QWHAWhat

What is your username

[plush pelican]

The 1301 person is one of the first users for the Subreddit

[plush pelican]

Arguss

[fervent kernel]

172K karma weow

[plush pelican]

Not that impressive when you realize I've been on Reddit for 14 years

[fervent kernel]

wt

what the

Wow

okay

anything else though to do

besides r/strekgerman thing

What did you do to reach your level?

[plush pelican]

I did so many things

I did the Anki flashcard app

I did Duolingo

I did Nicos Weg

I did Seedlang for a bit

I watched countless YouTube channels

Googled countless websites for grammar explanations

Then I started being able to use the language

[fervent kernel]

So you didn't really have an outline?

Of what to do?

[plush pelican]

🤷‍♂️

[fervent kernel]

You just did whatever showed up

[plush pelican]

I just kept googling

turns out, there's a lot of free resources, if you just google enough

[fervent kernel]

if you could go back in time and relearn it what would you change abt ur process

[fervent kernel]

thats my probelm tho

problem*

There is too many resources

To choose from

[plush pelican]

I would have done Nicos Weg in parallel with Duolingo

Duolingo was good, because it, too, has a streak, and helped build a habit for me

[fervent kernel]

I get stuck in the phase of analysis paralysis because of the amount of sheeer resources

[plush pelican]

But it was bad, because it doesn't explain jack shit about grammar

[fervent kernel]

yea lol

[plush pelican]

Nicos Weg goes through B1

[fervent kernel]

I dont know why

I found Nicos Weg

So boring

[plush pelican]

My theory is: If you don't know the grammar, you keep making mistakes, which then incentivizes you to buy the premium to get unlimited hearts

So it's to keep you on the platform longer to make money

[fervent kernel]

interesting

[plush pelican]

nope

[fervent kernel]

Hey

So

can we talk dms?

[plush pelican]

Up through B1, simply doing like Duolingo + Nicos Weg + watching YourGermanTeacher on YouTube would probably be enough

[fervent kernel]

Ah ok

[plush pelican]

ok

[fervent kernel]

Yea dms

thanks

sorry for pinging

just felt uncomfortable

[plain umbra]

@fervent kernel If you need to ping mods, please use the Moderator ping, not my individual ping.

[fervent kernel]

ah okay

ur the only mod on so I thought it'd make sense mb

[narrow pier]

Relatable as hell

[narrow pier]

What are three things you aould do differently to reach B2 ? Is is any different than reaching B1?

I think my problems were searching for every word which taught me a lot but its frsutrating for the longterm

And I kept comparing myself to many people better than me so I did not think I improved, turns out I did

[plush pelican]

searching for every word from what?

[narrow pier]

Everything I read, listened to

[plush pelican]

Once you hit B1, the biggest change is starting to use the language: listen to podcasts in German, read articles or forums in German, watch videos in German

but it sounds like you're already doing that

[narrow pier]

I looked for the words I did not understand which interrupted me from finishing the beginner book (I could not get past page 10 beacause of this)

[plush pelican]

Another change is you start having to look up resources in German that discuss more advanced concepts, which means you start having to google stuff in German

[plush pelican]

How many unknown words per page?

[narrow pier]

Yes I am,

I am currently listening to this podcast
Tödliche recherche: ein Journalist gegen die elite

[plush pelican]

What was the beginner book?

If there are too many unknown words per page, it's too advanced for you

it turns out, you need to be quite advanced to read even relatively simple books

[plush pelican]

You should try varying it up with other stuff, hear different voices/accents, different topics (and therefore different vocabulary), etc.

Have you ever listened to Easy German Podcast?

[narrow pier]

That is the questions actually, at first, most of is unknown, after 3 months, in some advanced readings, maybe 30 per 5 pages.

The thing is I don't know how many but that is my question

When listening, reading something, you should be able to understand 60 percent right?

[plush pelican]

They're nice if podcasts for natives are still too hard

[plush pelican]

when reading, you should be understanding 90%+

or else it will be too tedious and you'll give up

listening, you can dip down lower, but again you want to understand most of what you're hearing

[hushed dawn]

"Während da Vinci noch eine einzelne Spirale als Antrieb nutzen wollte, setzten die Studenten gleich vier Spiralen ein, konnten so die Flugfähigkeit belegen - und gewannen prompt den Preis."

i want to ask grammatically , why is it " konnten so" and not "so konnten" ?

[narrow pier]

Einfach Deutsch lesen series recommended by Here antrim on youtube

[narrow pier]

Yes, and I understand them really well, maybe I hear 100 words or a bit more in that 30 minutes which are unclear

In some podcasts, I understand most of it

[plush pelican]

Hmm, that's marketed as B1/B2?

I guess maybe work more on vocabulary

[narrow pier]

I thought the point is to struggle and learn new words, I may remember it not very well but this was explained in great detail by nihcos (had the godfather actor on his profile)

[plush pelican]

I still listen to Easy German Podcast even now

[narrow pier]

No, that was before when I was learning German

[plush pelican]

Sure, but you also want to understand enough context to be able to guess at the word

I started with Easy German Podcast, worked up to some podcasts for natives that are a bit slower and more clearly pronounced, and since then have been working on stuff that's faster/less clearly pronounced

[narrow pier]

Do you think unstructured esrning and not tsking too many notes will bite you at the end? I spend a lot of time in everything I learn even in coding to write it down, I might overdo it and that is the overkill

[plush pelican]

for Easy German, I now regularly listen to it at 1.6x speed, but when I started, I wouldn't have understood that at all 🤣

[plush pelican]

🤷‍♂️ Whether it's good or bad, what I'm doing is a bit of unstructured learning

I'm not taking a course

[narrow pier]

Can you dm me the podcasts or write them here ?
Dm might be better as this is the questions channel

[plush pelican]

and there are no guided apps after B1

that just leaves textbooks

and, idk, I just never got into them

[plush pelican]

ok

[narrow pier]

Kannst du fleißig ohne Problem mit einem Muttersprsche sprechen?

Wie denkst du bist ?

[narrow pier]

Thanks

<@&305455824174710787> is it okay to discuss things like this in tbis questions channel or do it in another one for the next time?

[narrow pier]

I think because when you have two verbs in a clause, one has to come at the start, after that comma

I don't know what its called, someone else could correct me

[plush pelican]

definiere "ohne Probleme" 😅

Ich kann mich selbst ausdrücken, aber ich suche ständig nach Wörtern, ich müsste einige Dinge umschreiben

Wenn ich zu schnell rede, vergesse ich, Verben zu konjugieren 😄

bzw. ich benutze die falsche Konjugation

Ich bin definitiv eloquenter beim Schreiben als beim Sprechen; beim Schreiben habe ich Zeit, nachzudenken, meine Gedanken einzuordnen, die Sätze richtig zu bilden.

[narrow pier]

Ja ohne Probleme 😅

Alle Leute hier können mir korrigieren, ohne das hier zu denken "Vielleicht magt er kritiken nicht"

[narrow pier]

Oh meine Gott 🥲

[narrow pier]

Das stimme ich dir zu, wenn ich auf Deustch schreibe und ein Fehler mache, kann ich sie sofort bemerken und sie korriegieren

Ich denke, dass ich mehr Zeit hier verbringen soll um weiter Deutsch autodidaktisch zu lernen

Ich habe vor allem das Gefühl, hauptsächlich auf tippen zu fokusieren ist fürchtbar, denn man vergisst richtig und schön Texte, Briefe zu schreiben

[hushed dawn]

hmm , im not getting it. its new to me

Aber was ist mit dem Gegenteil, wenn man völlig überraschend, ohne konkretes Anliegen wieder mit alten Freunden in Kontakt [Beispiel ..o.]?

I have a question here
why is the answer for "Beispiel" "tritt", and not "kommen"
shouldn't both work anyways

[fervent kernel]

Is it worth memorizing verbs in German?

[jade hawk]

well how else are you supposed to talk

[fervent kernel]

bc some people say dont memorize just immerse

[jade hawk]

In that case it is still worth to memorise verbs through stuff like Anki

[fervent kernel]

how so

[jade hawk]

I recommend this deck, has its fair share of verbs, and other kind of words, to memorise https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/653061995

[acoustic tendon]

that works, but is slow

if you want to learn quickly and effectively, you have to rely on spaced repetition

[fierce idol]

Hey hey. Thanks for asking~ This channel is rather for language-related questions only. All the rather casual stuff would be better in #general or #general-2 (or also #german-only or #beginner-german if it's in German)

[plush pelican]

People who immerse:

1. live in Germany
2. have an intense aversion to book learning
3. forget that when you're a beginner, you can't understand anything to "immerse" to begin with.

"immersion" is more like something you do after hitting intermediate level, before then, you lack the vocabulary to understand what's even being said.

[plush pelican]

I believe it's because of the first clause with "während"--that's a Nebensatz, right? So then a main clause after it has to have the conjugated verb immediately after the comma.

You can see that with "setzten die Studenten", but it also applies to "konnten so die Flugfähigkeit"--I think the 2nd and 3rd clauses are both in parallel, like there's an unspoken "und", meaning that they have to match each other's word order.

But I'm not sure

[spare warren]

"mit jemandem in Kontakt treten" means actively seeking contact with someone while "mit jemandem in Kontakt kommen" happens rather accidentally.
In this case "ohne konkretes Anliegen" specifies that someone is (actively) seeking contact with an old friend without having a particular reason, therefore you have to use "mit jemandem in Kontakt treten "

[humble nymph]

hallo leute
i really need tips from yall, i have b1 exam in a month. i would love if you could give me to tips on how exactly to prepare (speaking writing etc)

[night dagger]

#questions message

[hushed dawn]

Yeah i got your point , it makes sense.

[hushed dawn]

that's truly helpful, thank you

[hushed dawn]

Je überraschender die Kontaktaufnahme oder je schwächer die Bindung zwischen den beiden Personen war, [...4...] wurde die Wertschätzung des Gegenübers unterschätzt.

Nummer 4 : desto stärker ist die Antwort, aber warum wird "desto größer" als falsch gehalten.

[night dagger]

ich unterschätze das stark.
ich unterschätze das groß.

Das erste klingt halt idiomatischer, find ich

[hushed dawn]

Okayy

[narrow pier]

Thank you for your reply.

[narrow pier]

Reach out about whar specific things you have problems with

[copper orchid]

why isnt it der

auf with no movement is dativ

Arbeit ist die

so it should be der right?

someone explain this too

why isnt it dem

oh wait nvm im stupid

i forgot im doing a possessive exercise lmao

[warped oriole]

Yes should be

[warped oriole]

lol 😂

[hushed dawn]

entgehen vs entkommen ?

sie sind dem menschlichen Auge entgegangen/entkommen.
What would be really the differene ?

[misty gull]

entgehen -> is somthing more passiv or accidental
"Die Details sind mir entgangen." (I missed the details.)

entkommen -> escape actively or deliberately, such as escaping from a danger, a situation
"Der Gefangene ist entkommen." (The prisoner has escaped.)

"entgehen" suggests something being missed or not noticed.
"entkommen" suggests an active escape.

[opaque heron]

Hello,

"Ich möchte, dass ihnen an nichts fehlt"

In this sentence, is "an" a part of "fehlen"?

Thank you.

[delicate tiger]

"not be available in sufficient quantity, not be sufficient, be too scarce, be lacking"

[plush pelican]

It's not a separable verb, if that's what you mean.

But on the other hand, it is a fixed combination of verb + preposition, and those are pretty common, in both English and German.

Es fehlt jemandem (dative) an etwas (dative) - somebody is lacking something

[plush pelican]

Is their sentence missing an "es"?

[delicate tiger]

I think it's optional

[plush pelican]

How can that be?

If it's optional, aka it's a dummy subject, it should disappear when not in Position 1, right?

But in Duden's examples, it's there despite not being in position 1

Which sounds like the "es" in "es gibt", aka not a dummy subject, but a necessary one

[delicate tiger]

you are right, it probably should be there

[opaque heron]

There is an "es", sorry! Thank you so much for the answers!

[hushed dawn]

i didnt get this even in english
Tadel/tadeln vs Schuld/schulden ?

whats the difference

[sacred terrace]

They are totally different words with different meaning

[hushed dawn]

so from leo/pons i checked and saw that Schuld can mean either "blame" or debt. maybe i was wrong about schulden i thought it meant to blame someone.

But Tadel/tadeln also translate into "blame" / "to blame"

[hushed dawn]

can you further elaborate please

[robust glade]

Schuld: Es ist meine Schuld=Its my fault. schulden: Ich schulde dir einen Keks=If sb gave you a biscuit, so now you "schuldest" him a biscuit

[dusky jackal]

I have a question. I learned that when we say a building or address is on a street, we say..."Es ist in der Hauptstraße." A few days ago I saw..."Es ist auf der Hauptstraße." Is the second one completely wrong?

[delicate tiger]

both are fine

[indigo grove]

second one is better

[white bay]

Question: I've been thinking about moving to germany but I just started my coding bootcamp was wondering whats life like for cybersecurity profession and how expensive/hard is it to get a house?

[steel patrol]

I think #1033125270217048246 is better for this

[white bay]

Thx lol

[hushed dawn]

Spot ...4...] Vorzeigeprodukt von Boston Dynamics

gilt als
or
zählt zum

bitte erklär es mir, welche als richtig betrachtet ist und die Grund dafür ?

[plush pelican]

Ich habe nicht einmal die Frage verstanden...

[dire totem]

Ich will jemanden , der ein hohes Niveau hat , um mit ihm über etwas zu diskutieren , das mit Verben von Gentiv und Akkusativ korreliert

[plush pelican]

Du wirst mehr Antworten bekommen, wenn du die Frage eigentlich stellst.

[dire totem]

Das ist ein bisschen langes Thema . Ich will mit jemandem call reden

[hushed dawn]

Passender zu der Lücke ist “Gilt als” , aber die Grund dafür habe ich es nicht verstanden

[plush pelican]

Mein Kumpel, du hast das alles nicht gut erklärt.

Meinst du, dass "...4...]" die Lücke sein sollte?

Was ist "Spot"? Was für ein Zusammenhang ist das? Ist das diese Hundemaschine, die man in Videos im Internet gesehen hat?

Wenn ich alles richtig verstanden habe... "Vorzeigeprodukt" ist Singular. "zählt zu" würde bedeuten (soweit ich weiß) dass "Spot" nur eines von mehreren Produkten ist, aber hier sehen wir nur "Vorzeigeprodukt", nicht "Vorzeigeprodukte"

So habe ich es verstanden. Ich könnte mich geirrt haben.

[hushed dawn]

..4... ist ja die Lücke..
Spot ist der Name von einer Hundermaschine.

[hushed dawn]

Ach okayy ..
Danke

[rain elk]

what's ( Die Schmeichelei )mean in english

[delicate tiger]

please ask only in one channel

[night dagger]

faq definition

[stoic mauve]

What does this word mean?

The best way to understand the meaning of a word is to use a dictionary. Monolingual dictionaries such as dwds.de, de.wiktionary.org and duden.de will often provide the most accurate definitions and examples for a word. If you are not yet comfortable with using a monolingual dictionary, bilingual dictionaries are also an option (dict.cc, dict.leo.org, pons.com).

The key here is to empower yourself to find the answer on your own. Using the many examples provided in dictionaries like DWDS, Wiki and Duden can help you confidently understand the word, and how to use it. If you still have trouble; don't worry! You can use #questions, #questions-2 or the #942470380692590632 to ask someone for further clarification.

[void hound]

Es tut mir sehr leid, dass diese Frage nichts mit der Sprache zu tun hat. Aber ich bin neu in Deutschland und habe niemanden, den ich fragen kann. Auch das Internet gibt unklare Antworten. Weiß jemand, ob der „kaltgeräucherte“ Lachs ohne Kochen unbedenklich ist?

[full ice]

inwiefern unbedenklich?

[sacred terrace]

Yes, you can eat it straight out of the packaging.

[void hound]

Dankeschön

[hushed dawn]

"Sie können Ihre Mitgliedschaft in Ihrem Fitness-Studio ab sofort nicht mehr nutzen. Schreiben Sie an den
Geschäftsleiter, Herrn Fuchs, und bitten Sie darum, trotz der nicht eingehaltenen Kündigungsfrist aus de
Vertrag aussteigen zu dürfen."

Ein von den Punkten, in denen ich darüber schreiben sollte, enthält die Folgende:-
"Erinnern Sie an Ihre Zuverlässigkeit als Kundin/Kunde."

hat jemand Ideen dafür ?

[plush pelican]

Willst du Hilfe mit deinen Hausaufgaben?

[hushed dawn]

Why do you try to belittle one's effort or prejudice ?
You can just simply ignore the question if your not willing to answer or help.
This is a page made for questions right ?

• this is not a "Hausaufgabe" , im trying to improve learning German daily and this is a "Schreibenübung" for B2.

[full ice]

inwiefern brauchst du dafür Ideen?

[hushed dawn]

I'm not getting the point regarding what "Zuverlässigkeit als Kunde" in connection to "Ausstieg aus dem Vertrag" have?

I mean it makes sense to give plausible reasons for "Ausstieg aus dem Vertrag" but what does reliability has to do with that ?

[full ice]

because u want to get out of the contract even though u cant anymore

[hushed dawn]

Yes , but it makes more sense for example to give reasons that one needs to relocate for example,

[full ice]

thats why u want to convince them to still get out of the contract

but i get what u mean

but u just wanna use the reliability as an argument

it is true that is has nothing to do with this case specific but u are like: please do it i have always been very nice

same way as u would to a police officer

[hushed dawn]

Ahh, I get it now

yeahh i understand

Thanks a lot !

[full ice]

no Problem!

[plush pelican]

I was not trying to belittle, apologies if it came off like that. It sounded like you were asking for someone to do your homework for you, which is against the rules.

[brave flint]

Eine geschätzte halbe Milliarde Menschen schaut zu, als die britische Band The Beatles ihren Welthit „All you need is love“ spielt.

• is it "schaut" or "schauten" , Google Docs is telling me it's wrong the way it is, but i'm not sure why

[full ice]

„schaut“ in this case would indicate that it is present, „schauten“ would be past

„Alle Menschen schauten zu“ „every human was watching“

„die ganze Welt schaut zu“ „the whole world is watching“

[plush pelican]

Es wird allerdings manchmal das "historische Präsens" benutzt

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historisches_Präsens

Im Jahr 800 wird Karl der Große gekrönt.

[plush pelican]

formell betrachtet sollte es Perfekt/Präteritum sein, also Vergangenheit.

Manchmal wird allerdings Präsens benutzt, damit die Geschichte "lebendiger" wirkt. Das ist dann eher ein Stil, ein bisschen poetisch.

Achtung: "spielt" im zweiten Satz sollte auch im Perfekt/Präteritum stehen.

Oder war die Frage darauf gerichtet, ob das Verb für Singular oder Plural konjugiert werden soll?

Plural, die Antwort

[brave flint]

Eigentlich habe ich den Satz nur vom Kursbuch kopiert und im Kursbuch ist der Satz im Präsens, deshalb bin ich verwirrt.

[brave flint]

Und ja, Google möchte, dass das Verb für Plural konjugiert ist, aber ich verstehe nicht, warum.

Ein Kilo Orangen kostet 4,50€.

• Das Verb hier ist im Singular, obwohl Orangen im Plural ist, denn das ist nur ein Kilo.

Warum soll das schauten sein, wenn das nur eine halbe Milliarde ist?

[full ice]

„Ein Kilo Orangen kostet“ is present/now

„Ein Kilo Orangen kostete“ would be past or in perfect „Ein Kilo Orangen hat gekostet“

„Eine halbe Millarde Menschen schaut zu“ is not wrong, but it is present and not the past

[brave flint]

does that mean it isn't supposed to be in the Plural? Google Docs is telling me it's supposed be Plural

[plush pelican]

https://www.duden.de/sprachwissen/sprachratgeber/Subjekt-im-Singular%2C-Verb-im-Plural

I thought it had to be plural. Turns out, it can be either, and in fact singular is more common.

[brave flint]

Vielen Dank!😁

[hushed dawn]

It's okay man it seemed like a misunderstanding.

[hushed dawn]

is there an actual / such a way of forming "Konditionalsätze" with "es" ?
z.B., Es sollten Sie frei haben, Sie kommen. ?

[valid knot]

So wäre es meines Erachtens nach besser: "Kommen Sie, wenn sie frei haben sollten?" oder "Sollten Sie frei haben, kommen Sie dann?"

[fervent kernel]

Es gibt viele Länder, wo es keine Verschwendung gibt.
would it make a difference if I say "in denen" instead of "wo"?
and is one of them more formal than the other?

[delicate tiger]

"in denen" is nicer and more formal

[fervent kernel]

thanks
people would use it colloquially as well right?

[still wing]

bruh

[shrewd fern]

?

[clear bough]

[shrewd fern]

[jade hawk]

Gibt es kein deutsches Verb für "to bald"? Muss man "eine Glatze bekommen" oder "Haare verlieren" sagen?

[lean ravine]

mir fällt zumindest kein gängiges Wort ein

es gibt noch Haarverlust aber das ist kein Verb💀

[teal cliff]

An anglicism in informal speech would work, denglisch und so

but else no I don't think so

[icy flax]

In meiner Sprache gibts auch nicht. English ist das merkwürdige Kind im Kinterplatz um ehrlich zu sein hehe

[sonic oriole]

I wonder what the English verb for "too bald" would be...
A German term would be "schütter" as in "der hat schüttere Haare" - "he has thin hair(cover)" - but you'll be hard pressed to find Germans under 40 who have ever used / know that term.

[sonic oriole]

It would.
The sentence becomes better (if not proper) German...

[night dagger]

Haare verlieren also Haarausfall

[jade hawk]

Ehh, es gibt ein solches Verb in meiner Sprache. Englisch hat ein Freund in diesem Kinderplatz

[icy flax]

Was ist deine?

[jade hawk]

Polnisch. To bald = łysieć

[jade hawk]

So weit ich weiß, würde man "thin hair" auf Englisch sagen. Vielleicht "sparse hair". Aber diese Begriffe sind auch selten

[nimble viper]

eher nicht als Wort. Man sagt bei mir,, "he's thinning"

oh lol ich habe dem Gespräch nicht gut gefolgt

[midnight mica]

Im Russischen gibt es auch sowas.

[jade hawk]

Englisch hat zwei Freunde in diesem Kinderplatz

[hushed dawn]

if i got this right,

Verwahrlosen ist passiv, während vernachlässigen ist aktiv.
Beispiele;
Das alte Gebäude beginnt langsam zu verwahrlosen
In dem hektischen Alltag neigen viele Menschen dazu, ihre sozialen Kontakte zu vernachlässigen

Bitte korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich mich geirrt habe.

Because I've seen examples such as "Du hast deine Kinder verwahrlost" , and im not sure if that should have better be written with "vernachlässigen"

[whole portal]

I would say that example is just a little odd and you're correct

"Du hast deine Kinder verwahrlosen lassen."

would fit

[tulip ridge]

Weniger über die deutsche Sprache als vielmehr über die deutsche Geschichte und Kultur; Was denken die Deutschen heute über die alte Nationalhymne der DDR "Auferstanden aus Ruinen", Ich habe es mir selbst angehört und denke, dass es mir meiner Meinung nach etwas besser gefällt als die aktuelle Nationalhymne Deutschlands, und das Gleiche habe ich auch von einigen anderen Nichtdeutschen gehört, aber gilt es als schlecht oder tabu, da es mit schlechten Zeiten und Erinnerungen in der deutschen Geschichte in Verbindung gebracht wird?

[sacred terrace]

I think it's better you ask that either in culture-study-VISA or better yet in sensitive topics

But quite honestly this server is too small and there aren't enough germans here to get a good amount of well rounded opnions. I suggest reddit in subreddits like "askagerman" or even google, because these questions have been asked before in some way or other

[plush frigate]

hallo, what are words, where Y is used?

[delicate tiger]

you won't get a wide variety of opinions on reddit either...

[sacred terrace]

Probably not, but at least the amount of germans is higher, so you might get more diverse opnions

[delicate tiger]

99% loanwords

[plush frigate]

I've seen already

ah loan words

hahahaha

thanks

[bleak owl]

how to know in which order to write the words in a sentence? sometimes it seems random to me

[vast kestrel]

im also a beginner but i think that the verb is always at the end

[primal gulch]

As far as I know, there is perfect tense (used when speaking informally: “Ich habe gegessen“) and imperfect tense (usually used in formal writing such as newspapers, news reports, essays etc.: „Ich aß“). If you want to talk about a something with a “when, why, how, and when” then I would look up Te-ka-mo-lo. I think it would also be worth it to learn German declensions, because German is an inflected language and mostly relies on those rather than word order like English. For breaking down declensions, you need to know the case (nominative, accusative, dative, and genitive), the noun gender (masculine, feminine, neuter) and whether or not you need a strong declension or not. Memorization and practice makes perfect.

For example, using declensions we can say:

“Meine kleine Katze auf der Tisch gesprungen.” which means “My small cat jumped on the table.” I might be missing some things but these are the things that have been helping me learn

[charred harbor]

Meine kleine Katze ist auf den Tisch gesprungen

[plain umbra]

Just a quick correction: the name "imperfect tense" is not recommended because it's not very accurate. The tense is called preterite or simple past in English and Präteritum in German. Both Perfekt and Präteritum are perfective tenses, so it's a bit confusing if you called it imperfect/Imperfekt.

[plain umbra]

The first rule you learn as a beginner: the conjugated verb goes in the 2nd position.

Examples:
Ich lerne Deutsch. (I learn German.)
Heuter lerne ich Deutsch. (Today, I learn German.) <- Even though English uses Subject-Verb-Object word order, German uses V2 (Verb in 2nd position) word order. So since "heute" is first, then "lerne" comes next.

If you have more specific examples of sentences where you don't understand the word order, feel free to ask about those specific sentences.

[main flare]

Would you really use präteritum like an imperfective

As in exclusively for actions that are repeating or in progress

I thought it could also be a simple action that happened once in the past

[main flare]

Ahhhhhh sorry I didn't see this lmao

[plain umbra]

It's basically just a weird name that somehow caught on briefly but now people are discouraging the usage of it since it makes no sense.

Like you will see imperfect/Imperfekt in some learning materials, usually older ones and usually (in my experience) more US-centric ones.

[main flare]

Ahhh kinda like a Latinism I guess

Cringe of them

Also is there any context where the -e ending in the masculine singular dative doesn't sound extremely stilted?

[plain umbra]

In set phrases, like the most common examples "nach Hause" and "zu Hause".

I mean that's neuter but you get the idea.

[main flare]

I've seen a few ubiquitous examples like zu Hause, and some kinda differentiated by meaning, eg. Am Fuße des Berges

Whereas you'd say just dem Fuß in contexts where it's a literal foot

[plain umbra]

Yeah.

[main flare]

Any more of those examples?

[plush pelican]

I don't know about which ones sound stilted or not, but here are some more:

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Dativ-e

Außerdem gibt es Wendungen, in denen die Dativ-Form mit -e üblich ist, zum Beispiel bei feststehenden Wendungen wie „zu Hause“, „zum Gruße“, „am Hofe“, „im Jahre“ und in Redewendungen wie „jemanden zu Tode erschrecken“, „in aller Munde sein“, „im Grunde genommen“, „zu Rate ziehen“ und vielen weiteren.

https://www.slm.uni-hamburg.de/iaa/personen/ehemalige-emeriti/radden-guenter/downloads/radden-2020-e-dativ.pdf

Der e-Dativ wurde bisher vornehmlich unter dem Aspekt seines fortschreitenden Rückgangs sowie seines antiquierten und erstarrten Status betrachtet. Tatsächlich ist der e-Dativ im gegenwärtigen Deutsch durchaus noch gebräuchlich. Bei den Substantiven Rand, Fall und Sinn ist der e-Dativ sogar beträchtlich häufiger belegt als der flexionslose Dativ... Der e-Dativ tritt vornehmlich als Adjunkt in Präpositionalphrasen auf, typischerweise mit einem Genitivattribut wie in am Rande der Verzweiflung.

The E-Dative has been until now primarily regarded with respect to its advanced decline, as well as its antiquated and ossified status. In fact, the E-Dative is still thoroughly common in present day German. With the nouns "Rand", "Fall", and "Sinn", the E-Dative in fact appears more often than the version without the E... The E-Dative apperars primarily as an adjunct in prepositional phrases, typically with a genitive attribute as in, "am Rande der Verzweiflung."

Here's some stuff with "am Rande der/des X", aka "on the brink of X"

[opaque heron]

Hello, can someone explain the literal meaning of this sentence?

Ich muss jeden Euro zweimal umdrehen.

From the context, it is like he can't spend much money. 🤔

[scenic ivy]

Yes. It literally means you have to use every coin twice because you dont have much money.

[opaque heron]

Thank you!

[main flare]

I'm noticing a lot of these e datives tend to occur with an, is that like a limiting factor or will you see stuff like in diesem Falle, in einem anderen Sinne too?

This really reminds me of the headache that is the feminine instrumental of i-stems in Croatian

[plush pelican]

"an" is a preposition that often requires dative

🤷‍♂️

[sharp stone]

Halloo

Ich habe gestern schon gesagt, dass unser Unterricht morgen um 11 Uhr sein wird.

İst richtig "sein wird" in diesem Satz?

[main flare]

Well yeah but like I'd imagine it extends to other dative prepositions right? I just haven't seen many if any examples of those with the dative e

[delicate tiger]

Bitte frag nur in einem Channel gleichzeitig

[plush pelican]

But...I gave you examples of it happening with other dative prepositions?

zu Hause
im Jahre

Another one, which I see quite often, is "im Sinne von" = in the sense of

[main flare]

Aha OK sorry lmao, I must've skipped over that

[merry canopy]

Haii i want to ask you
Was bedeutet '' Aufrufen" auf Deutsch?

[maiden yacht]

use dwds

https://www.dwds.de/wb/aufrufen

provides you with a plenty of example sentences

and definitions

[merry canopy]

Wenn wir zu so einer Aktion aufrufen, bekommen wir Antworten und Ideen aus der ganzen Welt.

I am confused with this sentence.

[merry canopy]

Thank you

[maiden yacht]

https://www.deepl.com/en/translator#de/en-us/Wenn wir zu so einer Aktion aufrufen%2C bekommen wir Antworten und Ideen aus der ganzen Welt.

use deepl as well

in cases of doubt

that looks alright

[merry canopy]

Oooooo
I see
Thank youuuu

[maiden yacht]

I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the deepl + dwds + google trifecta

[hearty mantle]

can someone tell me the equivalent of "can't help but think..." in German? as in, for example "I can't help but think I'm dumb."

searched but couldn't find anything sadly

[main flare]

They're mostly the same as in Slavic languages, just the dative in German gobbles up what would be the locative and instrumental in Slavic languages as well as the dative

I mean in terms of quantity it's extra work but they have better delineated functions than in German which helps

[maiden yacht]

that's a good fucking question actually holy shit

I can't believe that I'm clueless

I think we have to summon the wisest of sages (a native speaker)

@delicate tigeris this expression only present in English?

a quick google search yielded "Ich kann nicht anders, als zu denken, dass..."

But I'm not sure if this is gebräuchlich

or just an anglicism

or perhaps a gebräuchlich anglicism

[scenic ivy]

"Irgendwie denke ich dass[...]"

[delicate tiger]

I can't think of anything snappy/really common

[maiden yacht]

yeah happens

[hushed dawn]

Hallo

[maiden yacht]

Servas.

[hushed dawn]

Ich verstehe es nicht, warum in diesem Beispeil "mangelhaften" die richtige Antwort ist, wohingegen "enttäuschten" falsch ist.
Könnte jemand es erklären bitte

Interessant ist eine inszenierte Situation, bei der eine Frau vor ihren ("mangelhaften/ enttäuschten") Malversuchen traurig zugestand, dass sie nicht gut malen könne.

[maiden yacht]

enttäuscht - disappointed

not disappointing

enttäuschend - disappointing

[hushed dawn]

Ahh !!!! I missed that...

[maiden yacht]

yep it's tuff vro...

[hushed dawn]

Tausend Dank !

[maiden yacht]

keine Ursache, mein Freund.

[edgy hemlock]

moin² leute

[maiden yacht]

Hallihallo

[edgy hemlock]

wisst ihr wo man hier pollo fino verkauft? aldi ist bei mir in der gegend dort finde ich die nicht

[edgy hemlock]

hier : in deutschland 🙂

[maiden yacht]

Die Fragen in diesem Kanal sollten meines Wissens nur die deutsche Sprache anbelangen, aber...

[edgy hemlock]

ahahaha sorry

[exotic zinc]

Even the beginners here are speaking kinda fluent😭

[maiden yacht]

Compare yourself only to yourself vro you'll go insane if you start doing otherwise

Not a race

keep track of your improvements and you will make it...

[hearty mantle]

thank you

[hearty mantle]

thank you for searching, I asked it on reddit too actually and there are various answers, to be honest I got confused to which one suits it's English equivalent most

let me paste them here it'll take a moment since I'm on my phone

"Irgendwie komme ich mir manchmal ganz schön dumm vor..." & "Es fühlt sich echt so an, als ob..."

and the other answers I got here as well of course

[maiden yacht]

It might just be a saying that's unique to English

Maybe there's an analogy in French but I don't speak French...

[hearty mantle]

yeah there's a possibility

[copper thicket]

"Hören sie jetzt gut zu" what does Zu mean here?

[broken sorrel]

„To“

Listen closely to now (not sure)

[plain umbra]

It's the separable verb zuhören.

[plush pelican]

https://youtu.be/Tizr0WwCzFQ?si=uDUiq81N4OrnocoF

[copper thicket]

It means "Now, listen carefully"

[copper thicket]

Thank you so much I wasn't aware that is a thing

[limpid trout]

if i were to ask "can anyone understand me?" would the preferable word order be "kann jemand mich verstehen?" or "kann mich jemand verstehen?"

[plush pelican]

I think the 2nd one 🤔

"jemand" is like an indefinite full noun
"mich" is a pronoun

There's a "neutral word order"

Notice the pronouns up near the top

The indefinite full nouns (einem Fremden) near the bottom

[limpid trout]

interesting (considering jemand is definitely a pronoun)

[plush pelican]

Pronoun?

It's not standing in for another noun

[limpid trout]

it's a pronoun the same way someone is a pronoun

[plush pelican]

Ah. It counts as an "indefinite pronoun", 😄

[limpid trout]

is the pronouns up front rule only about personal pronouns?

[plush pelican]

... I'm not sure, now that you ask

[maiden yacht]

so far you haven't made any mistakes in that statement

I think you're good...

That part of me died after I've reached "fluency" in German

Or maybe not after, but in the process of reaching fluency

[main flare]

What book is this?

[plush pelican]

Grammatik Aktiv

[main flare]

Thank you!

[limpid trout]

i've looked it up and it seems generally to apply specifically to personal pronouns
could be wrong though

[icy flax]

Ich bin erst aus/von der Schule gekommen.

Ist "aus" da auch richtig? Hat das eine andere Bedeutung, die nicht genau mit einer konkreten Bewegung zu tun hat?

[delicate tiger]

würde sogar sagen häufiger (aber möglicherweise regional)

[left wolf]

hallo leute ich bin neue hier, wer wissen wo find ich grammatik und kasus cheatsheets

und wer kann mir mit die unterschied zwichen lokal präpositionen Unterscheiden helfen

[delicate tiger]

Bitte frag immer nur in einem Channel gleichzeitig

[left wolf]

danke

[limpid trout]

product names, what gender? i.e. the EP–133 K.O. II

[icy flax]

we are in year 2024 after all

Wir sind schließlich/immerhin im Jahre 2024.

Sind beide gute Synonyme da?

[thorn zodiac]

Zwei Feuerwehr-Leute wurden verletzt.

Is this definitely passiv?(Vorgangspassiv?)

It seems not so ongoing to me and more like a werden (Präteritum) + Adjektive but idk of that exists. I only have this Problem in specific construction with wurde/n.

(Was being injured vs were injured)
Are both said with wurden verletzt?

Ask if I need to clarify, Danke im Voraus.

[spare warren]

Was being injured - wurde verletzt
were injured - waren verletzt (präteritum von sein)

And yes, definitely Vorgangspassiv

[thorn zodiac]

Danke sehr!

[spare warren]

(*Sind das beides gute Synonyme?
"da" sounds really strange in this context)
Regarding your question, I think both work
Do you have any more context by chance ?

[icy flax]

(Danke Dir!)
Ja. Also, stell dir vor, jemand fragt, wo man über Gitarre lesen kann. Dazu antwortet man "Vielleicht im Internet? Es ist schließlich/schließlich 2024. Information ist überall verfügbar wenn man ein Smartphone auf der Hand hat."

Für mich hört sich "schließlich" besser an, aber immerhin sollte auch da passend sein. Daher die Frage

[nimble viper]

Hierzu habe ich die Phrase “Wir haben 2024, weißt du” gehört.

Glaube ich. Ich mag mich daran falsch erinnert haben.

[whole portal]

Das ist aber eher umgangssprachlich neudeutsch

[foggy charm]

hi, are mistaking das die der that important in sentence?

[delicate tiger]

It will make it obvious that you are a learner, but usually you will still be understood

[foggy charm]

Ich verstand, danke sehr

[limpid trout]

is there even a way to know this or is it just guessing?

[plain umbra]

It's hard for a learner to know it. But typically the gender will come from something, like... from the product name (if it ends with a gendered noun), or in this case probably it comes from the name of the type of product.

In this case the product can be called like a... Synthesizer, Sampler, Composer... Either way, all those -er type words where it sounds like "something that does an action" are masculine, so this product is probably masculine based on that.

[limpid trout]

interesting, danke schön

[sacred terrace]

There have been raging discussions among Germans what gender Nutella has

[boreal shuttle]

I thought as long as you don't say der Nutella it's fine. 😅

[sacred terrace]

The discussion got more heated with "pronouns"

Personally I always said das Nutella

[robust glade]

Ich sage auch immer das Nutella

[sacred terrace]

It's a contentious subject that Ferrero doesn't want to resolve for some reason

[boreal shuttle]

I think, personally, that die Nutella sounds better, but I'm not native. Maybe it's because Italian words that end with a are usually feminine.

[merry canopy]

Haloo ich habe eine Frage
Welche Verben ist besser. When i want to say i want to make my dream come true.

Erreichen
Schaffen
Realisieren

[robust glade]

Wenn dann "erreichen", aber ich eürde eher "verwirklichen" sagen

[maiden yacht]

^^

Oder auch wahr werden lassen

[opaque heron]

Hello,

Dort willst du nie wieder weg, das verspreche ich dir.

In the first part of this sentence, is there a verb missing? 🤔

[plush pelican]

You can omit a verb of movement after a modal verb like "wollen"

It's considered obvious or implied

the "weg" helps make it clear that movement is implied

[opaque heron]

What is the verb here? Weggehen?

[plush pelican]

Hammer's German Grammar 15.1.2(f):

[plush pelican]

as it says in Hammer's, the verb understood is usually "gehen", "kommen", or "fahren"

[opaque heron]

I understand, thank you so much!

[tribal raft]

Does anyone have any good videos for getting a good German accent when speaking German? As I want to work on my pronunciation and start to not only speak good German, but also sound more accurate with my German

Especially with the R sounds. I struggle trying to pronounce the Soft R in words like "Werden"

[plush pelican]

Forvo.com has audio recordings of natives pronouncing all sorts of words

https://forvo.com/word/werden/#de

[high zephyr]

Ja genau, i'd suggest just listening and maybe trying to repeat what you hear

[glass hawk]

Do you understand the nature of the ‘R’ in contexts such as in ‘werden’? In that it's simply a vowel sound (in the vast majority of cases) rather than a consonant of any kind? You can hear it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-open_central_vowel

[tribal raft]

I know that dw

But it's difficult to pronounce is the issue

Or even really wrap my head around

[glass hawk]

Do you know IPA? It might help you think about pronunciation in a different way

[tribal raft]

Not really no

[glass hawk]

It takes a little effort to learn, but not much. The idea is that IPA letters are unambiguous (to a degree) so that you can look at the IPA spelling of words across languages and have a good idea of how they're pronounced without having to tackle the individual language's spelling and inconsistency between spelling vs. pronunciation. So for example, German Wiktionary spells ‘werden’ in IPA as [ˈveːɐ̯dn̩]. I've found it helps some people to have the IPA spelling in mind to get over mental roadblocks about spelling vs pronunciation. Just a suggestion for you to look into. You'd have to learn the sounds a bunch of symbols make, but because each symbol only represents one sound, it's not hard to do—especially because you see them over and over again in dictionaries (German Wiktionary, wiktionary.de, is excellent for finding IPA spellings)

[glass hawk]

But yeah, as a hacky attempt at a fix, if you think of R between a vowel and a consonant, or at the end of a word, as simply being an 'a'-like sound, you might find it gets you closer to the mark.

[tribal raft]

Alright thank you!

[plush frigate]

why there is not article there? pls tell me

[plush pelican]

uncountable nouns

[plush frigate]

danke, but in what we need-die kleidung?

[plush pelican]

"die Kleidung" is the clothes, so when you are pointing out some specific clothes, much like "the" in English

[plush frigate]

aaahhh I see, dankeee

[heavy grove]

I've just found this idiom which translates to "to be a pain"

Is it common?

[hushed dawn]

Kann ich "Vielfältig" und "Facettenreich" austauschbar verwenden ?

oder gibt es Unterschiede in Bedeutung

[whole portal]

Never heard that

[heavy grove]

Damn

[lean ravine]

Never heard it either

[lean ravine]

Facettenreich is way less common

[warped oriole]

Die Kleidungen = the clothes
Die Kleidung = the clothing

[charred harbor]

Kleidung also usually translates as clothes

[warped oriole]

Ich denke, dass es Unterschiede gibt. Ich kann jetzt aber auch nicht genau erklären was die Unterschiede sind.

[lean ravine]

Benutzt du die Kleidungen im Alltag? Ich kann mich nicht erinnern das jemals benutzt zu haben

Klamotten viel eher

[warped oriole]

Oh ok 🤔

[warped oriole]

Ja meistens wasche ich meine Kleidung. Manchmal sag ich auch Klamotten, wenn ich umgangssprachlicher rede. Mal so mal so.

[lean ravine]

Ich meine spezifisch „Die Kleidungen“

Gibt’s das überhaupt?

[warped oriole]

Right I see now. My bad.

[plush pelican]

When you say "meine Kleidung", do you mean 1 single object, or multiple?

[lean ravine]

Tatsache

[charred harbor]

Yeah I think it doesn’t translate well

[warped oriole]

Jetzt bin ich auch nicht mehr sicher 😂

[whole portal]

Kleidung = Clothing
Kleider = Clothes (archaic)

You'd say Sachen

[sacred terrace]

It can mean everything you own. Like "meine Kleidung ist eher bunt"

[lean ravine]

Usually multiple, when you have one piece of clothing you’d just call it by its name, like t shirt

[plush pelican]

If it's multiple, then "clothes" is a translation?

I wash my clothes

[whole portal]

Yeah I think translating Kleidung with Clothes is fine

[plush pelican]

And if the singular means "clothes", what does "Kleidungen" mean?

[sacred terrace]

Kleidungen ist being used so rarely, it's almost not worth thinking about it

[lean ravine]

I always use Klamotten but that’s personal preference

[lean ravine]

Yea I haven’t heard it ever xD

[whole portal]

Kleidung is used as an uncountable amount that's all

[charred harbor]

It’s like pluralising Milch lmao
Like technically possible
So weird it’s probably not worth doing

xD

[plush pelican]

Well, that's how I explained it all to begin with, before DerGestiefelteHu corrected me 😅

[whole portal]

huh

I am confusion

[warped oriole]

Ich habe verschiedene Arten von Kleidungen.

Hier würde man doch Kleidungen sagen oder?

[gloomy shoal]

Could you use it to talk about different types of Kleidung?

die Kleidungen verschiedener Länder

[whole portal]

Milch is a pretty good equivalent here imo

[plush pelican]

Like a set of sets, 🤔

[whole portal]

Klingt mMn komisch

I'm not sure if I have ever heard someone say Kleidungen ngl

[lean ravine]

Mein Vater hat Germanistik studiert und auch noch nie von Kleidungen gehört lmao

[warped oriole]

Ich würde sagen ja. Verschiedene Kleidungen.

[whole portal]

I think in this specific case you could use Kleidungen, yeah but I again think Kleidung would also work

So I'd just treat it like milk

[sacred terrace]

You could use it in those cases, but most people would phrase it differently just to avoid Kleidungen or would use "Bekleidung". The issue is sinply that Kleidung is already an implicit plural and Kleidungen could be used to ... denoun several different clothes of several different people.
But there are few cases where this would make much of a difference meaningwise

[hushed dawn]

i have a question that came up in a test and i'd like to know in the Space "(3)" why "umsonst" isn't suitable instead of "umgekehrt".

Dabei werden die Interessen der Gäste berücksichtigt: Ob nun in Millionenstädten wie Berlin, Hamburg und München oder in einer der anderen 17 Städte - die Programme passen sich den Wünschen der Gäste an, nicht (3)

[whole portal]

Those two words seem to have pretty different meanings to me, what do you want to use umsonst for?

[gloomy shoal]

Okie dokie. I was just curious. Thanks for the answers @whole portal @warped oriole @sacred terrace

[hushed dawn]

Achh, I got confused with "ansonsten".

nevermind

[plush pelican]

"ansonsten" is like "otherwise"; "umgekehrt" is like "reversed", no?

[hushed dawn]

yes, but wouldn't it work also in that sentence ?

[maiden yacht]

Never heard of it being used that way

My first thought would be umgekehrt

[hushed dawn]

sich verhalten vs sich benehmen..
im not getting the difference,

[lean ravine]

pretty much interchangeable

[plush pelican]

Wait, you mean in (3) at the end of the sentence?

The sentence is, "The programs are matched to the wishes of the guests, not the other way around"

I don't think you can replace that with "not otherwise"

"otherwise" would imply that it's not A, but instead any number of possibilities that are not A
So in this sentence, it would be like, "The programs are matched to the wishes of the guests, not (in any other possible configuration)" which sounds weird.

"umgekehrt"/"reversed" implies that it's not A, but the direct opposite of A, ~A
In this sentence: "The programs are matched to the wishes of the guests, not the wishes of the guests are matched to the programs"

[lean ravine]

I wish I could help but I have no idea what´s going on😭

[plush pelican]

@lean ravine This sentence

Dabei werden die Interessen der Gäste berücksichtigt: Ob nun in Millionenstädten wie Berlin, Hamburg und München oder in einer der anderen 17 Städte - die Programme passen sich den Wünschen der Gäste an, nicht (umgekehrt/ansonsten)

He's asking why "ansonsten" doesn't work here

[lean ravine]

ahh okay

yea umgekeht/anders herum would imply that something is the other way around, ansonsten would mean smth that... replaces something else

idk if that makes sense but in a sentence you could say
"Was ich ansonsten gemacht hätte" -> Which I would have done instead

Basically, you have done an action and when there´s an option you didn´t pick but would have done instead, you can use ansonsten

or could do instead in the future that also works

[maiden yacht]

benimm dich can be used as a command to someone to behave

sich verhalten cannot be used for this purpose

but other than that they are for the most part interchangeable

ALTHOUGH

Das Verhalten can apply to both humans and animals whereas das Benehmen mostly refers to the behaviour of humans

or not, im clueless

It's just that you'd rather say das Verhalten von Tieren in lieu of das Benehmen von Tieren

But perhaps i'm digging too much into the semantics of it all

[hushed dawn]

Ah I understand what you mean, it makes sense, thank you

[hushed dawn]

Alles Klar ! Danke

[heavy grove]

Is there a difference between "Strom" and "Elektrizität"?

[lean ravine]

in usage definitely, when the power´s out you wouldn´t say "Die Elektrizität is aus." or something like that
Also Strom can mean a few meanings, everything regarding a liquid flowing can be considered a Strom too
Elektrizität is a bit more formal and science-y and not really used in casual speech that much

[heavy grove]

Thx

[lean ravine]

it´s widely used when saying something along the lines of "Das hat keinen Strom" :D

(that saying is used for the electricities´ meaning specifically, not the flowing liquids one)

[sour ore]

Can anyone tell me how the word "gerade" is used? Can it mean both "right now" and "immediately"?

And how would someone tell someone to "do it right now/immediately"?

[sour ore]

Wow

[plush frigate]

is it right? -- sie is nicht aus malaisia

"nicht" is right or it has to be last?

[delicate tiger]

right position, but 2.5 typos

[lean ravine]

ach, das ist Slang :b

[plush frigate]

Sie ist

I had to right

edited

[lean ravine]

Sie ist nicht aus Malaysia

[plush frigate]

yaaa danke

[acoustic tendon]

dachte Malaysia würde Malaysien heißen oder so

[lean ravine]

Nein

[acoustic tendon]

was ist mit Indonesia?

laut google Indonesien

[lean ravine]

ja

das richtig

[maiden yacht]

https://www.dwds.de/wb/gerade#0 check every example on this website out

it's pretty comprehensive as far as example sentences and definitions go

[sour ore]

Thanks a lot

Can it be used in place of "genau" as an answer to a question?

[scenic ivy]

No, you cant switch gerade with genau

Genau is like a yes while gerade means something like barely

In the context of a question

[sour ore]

So if someone asks me "Hast du das gelernt?" and i reply with "gerade", would it mean something like I've barely studied anything, or will it not make sense at all?

On the same note, how would I respond to that question in order to say that I've hardly studied anything

[scenic ivy]

No, in that context gerade means (jetzt)gerade = right now

[plain umbra]

Well I guess I would point out that it doesn't really make sense. Like if someone asks you a yes/no question and you answer "right now", that doesn't make sense.

"Right now" would be the answer to a "when" question, not a "yes/no" question.

[sour ore]

Oh so along the lines of "I just learnt this"

[plain umbra]

So you could say "ja" or "genau", and then add more adverbs to add info.

[sour ore]

Ok, got it

Thanks a lot

Also

Is there a particular meaning when people say fillers like Na ja

Or ja direkt

[scenic ivy]

Na ja = Not Really

[sour ore]

Oh ok, I didn't know that

[scenic ivy]

Ja direkt = Ja sofort

[sour ore]

Can you use it in a sentence?

[scenic ivy]

Well the literal translation of Not really is nicht wirklich

[scenic ivy]

Q: Schickst du mir bitte das Bild?
A: Ja sofort.

[sour ore]

Thanks!

[limpid harbor]

anybody knows how imperativ works?

[south zenith]

Can you be a bit more specific

[limpid harbor]

how do verbs change as a result of imperativ?

is there a rule for it or

[south zenith]

It depends on who your addressing
For people you’d refer to with du you just chop off the ending
Machen -> mach
Mach dein Bett

When you’d use ihr, you use the same ihr conjugation
Machen -> macht
Macht eure Betten

For those you refer to with Sie
You word it the same as a question really
Machen Sie Ihr Bett

[limpid harbor]

thank u man

big ups

[icy flax]

No, it means the sane as that leading "well, ..." that people say prior to say what they do want to say. In older texts, you will find "nun, ..." meaning the same. "Naja" does not add any clear meaning to a sentence.

[hushed dawn]

Helloo !

I have 2 questions regarding the meaning and usage , please correct me if i have understood those words wrongly.

1- the word "eklatant" is like obvious , and is often used in negative way , like --> eklatantes Problem / eklatanter Fehler

2- abstrahieren ; i know that means abstract but i don't get it accurately.. is it basically to detach from a particular thought/idea in order to do whatever would be mentioned later in a sentence ? like --> abstrahiert man von Einzelheiten, sieht man das größere Bild.

[vernal fossil]

Ok as a Native, I honestly am not sure about 1.
But 2 is usually used as something beeping detached from something.

[wide crater]

1. The word can be used in a negative context but doesn't have to be: (Ein eklatanter Erfolg = A striking success) and yes, it means obvious/hard to miss in this case

@vernal fossil Problem, weil du a deppads gfrasta bist?

[vernal fossil]

Entschuldigung gibt es hier ein Problem?

[wide crater]

https://tenor.com/view/rpx_syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907

[hushed dawn]

Understood, thank you !

[wide crater]

Essentially what higher mathematics do

[hushed dawn]

Brilliant 🙂

[gusty silo]

ich möchte mir diese Zeichnung einrahmen und in den Hausflur hängen

[wide crater]

Du hast meine Einwilligung

[sacred terrace]

I would disagree here. Of course you can say "eklatanter erfolg" but it would have a saracastic / ironic touch

[hazy ivy]

Question: I just read a sentence on a beginner German reading website that I found confusing in the sentence order. If someone could explain it to me that would be great. Here it is: Muscheln suchen macht uns viel Spaß oder wir bauen eine große Burg. This seems to roughly translate to "Finding shells is very fun, or building a big (sand) castle." It's just strange to me that there are seemingly two verbs in different cases in the second and third position. I'm also having trouble seeing how part after the comma connects to the part about having fun before the comma. If anyone could help that would be great.

[plush pelican]

So, you're right about the translation, and you should zoom in on that: "Finding shells is very fun"

"X is very fun"

X is a noun

In English, when we want to turn a verb into a noun, we often add -ing to it, like the -ing in "Finding shells"

In German, they can turn a verb into a noun in a couple of ways

So just pretend for a moment that it's a different noun

"X macht uns viel Spaß."

That's actually a pretty normal sentence, the only bit that's weird is that you have a verb turned into a noun where X is.

I will say: I think the "Suchen" should actually be capitalized, to indicate that it's a Gerund, a verb that has been turned into a noun. Or maybe "Muschelnsuchen" should've been written together. That would've made it easier for you to understand. But I'm not 100% on that.

[plush pelican]

The second part does seem a bit...loose to me, like it doesn't quite join up 100% properly. But when speaking, people do that kind of thing all the time, in both English and German, where they start a sentence and then kind of skip half a beat partway through, such that it doesn't join up 100%

[copper thicket]

I'd like to know if this is really accurate or not. And if not can someone help me with what preposition have accusative and which have dative after them

[plush pelican]

looks right

we have our own pinned chart: #questions message

"bis" ist da eine Konjunktion, keine Präposition

"Mir wird kalt"

Dativ wird da sowieso benötigt

[spare warren]

Ups Ja stimmt haha

[night dagger]

many people use a website called vostel for that

[thick sigil]

Quick question here, I'd imagine that in written German this would look weird, but in spoken German I'm wondering if it would sound natural to take the letters out of some words. Like instead of "Mannes", you would say "Mann's", or instead of "vorbereiten", you could say "vorb'reiten".

I imagine its dependent on the word.

[sacred terrace]

Mannes is not really a word and contractions are only a somewhat recent thing. Even in colloquial german you wouldn't use contractions the way you suggest.

[main flare]

For the first one you just straight up have Mannes and Manns as accepted forms

Much like Tages and Tags

The uncontracted forms seem to be preferred

[thick sigil]

alright, thanks

[plush pelican]

Mannes isn't a word?

Der Hund des Mannes?

[sacred terrace]

Well I guess I was wrong there

[plush pelican]

I think in like songs or poems this sometimes happens. But of course, a lot of grammar rules go out the window with them, 😅

[thick sigil]

Yeah thats primarily why I was asking. Translating songs and poems is really annoying when I'm like 1 syllable too long or short lol. It makes me have to get creative with vocabulary, and I'm not creative with vocabulary lmao.

[azure idol]

Kannst leute emfehlen Deutsch podcasts und songs?

Idk if I asked that correctly

Kannst leute Deutsch podcasts und songs emfehlen?

Verb at the end maybe

[thick sigil]

Können Leute Podcasts und Lieder auf Deutsch empfehlen? This might not be correct. You might need the word "mir" in there somewhere to emphasize that its "to you" they are recommending.

[fading spire]

ja was für müsik hörst du

[azure idol]

Mhm I’m still rllyyyy new😭

[azure idol]

Anyyy

[limpid trout]

i'm partial to Kraftwerk but i'm not sure how good that is for learning

[maiden yacht]

take a gander at how goethe wrote his poems

he's manipulating words to his liking

geschehen -> geschehn

zugerichtet -> zugericht't

schickt -> schicket (make it have 2 syllables)

[wise pendant]

He actually doesn't really take that much creative freedom tbh
I mean to some extent yes, but all those examples could be explained logically.

The ehen in geschehen is often pronounced /e:.n/ with just a long e and hes just reflecting that in writing.

zugerichtet is similar as colloquially this last e is often very short or even omitted

The schicket is also an actually used older form of schickt that was still used by some at the time Goethe was alive

[median stone]

hi what for musik style u like , political, funny or punk, love?

[median stone]

raegge?

[cinder yew]

Hi, I have a question regarding "idiomatic formulations"

I wanted to buy something in Kleinanzeigen.de and wanted to ask for a... Rabatt (?). I do not want to sound rude, so I would like to know is my text is already a normal, friendly, natural way to ask for a Rabatt.

Hallo Stefano!

mein Interesse am Gerät besteht weiterhin. Ich kann Dir 210€ für das rM2 (+ 5,49€ Versand) anbieten. Wenn Zahlung per Paypal bevorzugt wird, geht das Geld ab sofort raus :)

Liebe Grüße und einen schönes Wochenende
Elio

If there are any wording suggestions, I would really appreciate it ^^

[limber jungle]

Yes, you can write it like that. i don't think there is anything unfriendly about the wording. but you could pay attention to the spelling.

[cinder yew]

ein* schönes Wochenende, right?

that would be the only wrong thing in the text?

[limber jungle]

I have seen another one. It's called "meine Interesse"

Hallo Stefano!

meine Interesse am Gerät besteht weiterhin. Ich kann Dir 210€ für das rM2 (+ 5,49€ Versand) anbieten. Wenn Zahlung per Paypal bevorzugt wird, geht das Geld ab sofort raus 🙂

Liebe Grüße und ein schönes Wochenende.
Elio

Like this⬆️

[cinder yew]

... isn't Interesse neutral?

das Interesse

die Interessen

[limber jungle]

die Interesse

[cinder yew]

are you native speaker?

[limber jungle]

No cause i joined today but i'm from Germany

I was born in Germany

[cinder yew]

oh okay

i mean i am not sure about that

i searched it

and Interesse is neutral

[limber jungle]

Mag gut sein aber es heißt "meine Interesse".

[cinder yew]

I am now more confused

[north karma]

es heißt "mein Interesse", im Plural "meine Interessen"

das Interesse, die Interessen

[cinder yew]

genau das dachte ich mir

[limber jungle]

Aber in diesem Text ist "mein Interesse" falsch.

[north karma]

nö

das Interesse am Gerät

[limber jungle]

die Interesse am Gerät.

[north karma]

das ist falsch😭

[slender carbon]

wie kann ich voice chat beitreten?

[cinder yew]

@limber jungle Könntest du das näher erläutern, warum "die Interesse" in diesem Fall richtig sei?

[limber jungle]

Keine Ahnung.

[slender carbon]

ok

[limber jungle]

Es ist halt einfach Grammatikalisch richtig.

[cinder yew]

Was ist grammatikalisch richtig? "Die Interesse"?

[limber jungle]

Du könntest auch schreiben "ich habe noch interesse an dem Gerät"

[cinder yew]

Alles klar, danke! Aber warum wäre "meine Interesse" richtig?

[limber jungle]

Nominativ das Interesse die Interessen
Genitiv des Interesses der Interessen
Dativ dem Interesse den Interessen
Akkusativ das Interesse die Interessen

[north karma]

to say "...geht das Geld ab sofort raus" is a bit unusual imo, I'd say "dann schicke ich das Geld sofort raus" or something like that and "das Interesse" is right, you can leave it as it is

[limber jungle]

@cinder yew mach einfach so wie du es für richtig hälst.

[limber jungle]

Denk mal Logisch. Es heißt doch nicht mein Interesse. Das ist kein richtiges Deutsch.

[north karma]

jo

kannst du ja gerne so denken

[limber jungle]

Sorry aber das ist auch kein richtiges Deutsch.

[north karma]

😭

[limber jungle]

Es ist halt einfach so.

[north karma]

#Fakt

[limber jungle]

Ich will dich damit auch nicht ärgern oder so. Es ist halt einfach so. Ich bin in Deutschland geboren, gehe seit 9 Jahren in die Schule jetzt aufs Gymnasium und dann lernt man das halt.

[north karma]

naja, denke eher dass du trollst zumal du selbst relativ viele Fehler in deiner Sprache hast

aber wenn das für dich lustig ist, dann fair

[limber jungle]

Ja? Ok dann denk so über mich. Ich meine es einfach nur gut und will Leuten die Deutsch lernen wollen helfen.

[cinder yew]

Also Deutscher zu sein ist eine rein kulturelle und sprachliche Angelegenheit, nicht genetisch oder was auch immer. Ich mache auch Fehler in meiner Muttersprache, obwohl ich mich für relativ "gebildet" in Linguistik halte. Schäme dich nicht :/ das macht jeder

[north karma]

Auf wen beziehst du dich jetzt?

[north karma]

Okay, supi! Einige Sachen, die du sagst, sind aber leider auch falsch und ich finds dann schade, andere damit zu verwirren.

[limber jungle]

Ich kann dir auch sagen wieso. Ich tippe sehr schnell und da passieren oft Fehler.

[cinder yew]

auf sie

[north karma]

kannste ja dann korrigieren, wenn du helfen magst

[limber jungle]

Ja. Jetzt mal aber eine andere Frage. Wieso bist du dir so sicher und meinst mich jetzt ärgern zu müssen?

[north karma]

Ich ärgere dich doch gar nicht, zumindest ist das nicht meine Absicht. Ich wollte das nur korrigieren, damit Elio es nicht falsch lernt und das ja irgendwo auch der Zweck von diesem Channel ist.

[cinder yew]

Ich habe gerade eine gigantische Fliege getötet

[limber jungle]

Ich empfinde das aber in dem Moment so.

[north karma]

Ich bin mir sicher, weil ich auch seit "immer" in Deutschland lebe und das meine Muttersprache ist. Zudem kann man das googlen und findet auch dort heraus, dass es "das Interesse" ist. Das, was zu vorhin reingeschickt hast, bestätigt das auch.

Hab dazu jetzt weiter nichts zu sagen, du kannst das auch gern weiterhin falsch sagen und dir damit sicher sein.

[limber jungle]

Das hat ja aber nichts mit dem Satz mein Interesse zu tun

[limber jungle]

Jo.

[north karma]

Inwiefern? Ist dieselbe Argumentation, die du auch benutzt und ich hab mich explizit auf den Artikel von "Interesse" bezogen, hä?

[north karma]

rip

[limber jungle]

Ist doch egal hast du gesagt. Warum gehst du dann weiter auf das Thema ein?

[north karma]

fair

[limber jungle]

Dann weiß ich aber in Zukunft bescheid und werde mich das nächste mal darüber Informieren.

[fervent kernel]

Nur einen Katzensprung entfernt sein - warum steht den definitiven Artikel im Akkusativ, wenn man sein verwendet?

[plush pelican]

"einen" ist ein unbestimmter Artikel, an indefinite article

Accusative isn't always used with "sein", and in fact, when it's just a bare noun there-- Ich bin ein Mann-- the noun there is clearly in Nominative.

However, the verb isn't the only thing that determines the case of a noun. You probably are already aware that prepositions control the case of their object of the preposition (for example: für den Hund, mit einer Frau).

There can be other situations as well. One thing is that indications of time and indications of distance are often set in accusative, and this is independent of the verb:
Ich war einen Monat in Frankreich.
Er lag den ganzen Tag im Bett.
Ich bin den ganzen Weg zu Fuß gegangen.

This is "the adverbial accusative":

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkusativ#Der_adverbiale_Akkusativ
https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/18yihga/das_liegt_nur_einen_katzensprung_entfernt/

[rich prism]

to?

[alpine pebble]

Hallo Leute? Ich habe eine Frage für sie. Wenn ich auf Deutsch schriebe oder spreche, klinge ich genauso ähnlich wie Engliesh. Seit einem Monat habe ich mit A2 Kurs angefangen. Wie kann ich fließend auf Deutsch sprechen? Haben sie etwas Tipps für mich? Danke 🥹

[plush pelican]

Forvo.com has recordings of native speakers pronouncing words. Look up a word, make sure to choose the German version, and listen to them say it, then you try to repeat it, then listen to them, then you try to repeat it, etc

Later on, you should also start listening to podcasts/videos in German. Listening to Germans talk will help you get the German rhythm/pronunciation down

[alpine pebble]

Vielen Danke ! Ich probiere es bestimmit aus. 😊

[gleaming pulsar]

guys what is the different between vorkommen passieren geschehen

[lean ravine]

The situations in which you use them for the most part…
passieren is something you can use when asking “What happened?” “Did it already happen?” or just “Happens.” and there are always other ones of course
vorkommen can also be used in “That can happen.” “That doesn’t happen very often.” and some others, especially when it’s things related to how often something is happening
Geschehen is a bit more rare, “Something cool/strange is happening.” “What’s happening to me?” would be where you’d hear it the most probably…

They’re mostly interchangeable though, you just kind of have to get a feel which of them feel awkward in which situation

[hushed dawn]

"Ihren hochgradig entwickelten Ortungssinn (ausnutzend/ausgenutzt) werden sie zur Abwehr feindlicher Taucher und zur Platzierung von Sprengkörpern an U-Booten dressiert."

I have problem understanding the grammar here of why ausnutzend is chosen in a text and not ausgenutzt , also the positioning of the word sounds weird to me ? Can someone explain it.

[plush pelican]

if it's "ausnutzend", then the entire part before "werden" is a Partizipialsatz, a participle clause, a type of Nebensatz

in which case, like all Nebensätze, any main clause coming after it has the conjugated verb directly after the comma, because the entire Nebensatz is said to take up position 1

https://www.deutschplus.net/en/pages/Nebensatz_mit_finiter_infiniter_Verbform

[hushed dawn]

Thank you Argus, I understood it

[warped oriole]

😂😂

[warped oriole]

Ja. Das Interesse.

[midnight cedar]

Multitasking sorgt für Stress, weil man keine Aufgabe besonders gut erledigen kann.
Multitasking verursacht Stress, weil man keine Aufgabe besonders gut erledigen kann.

Are these two sentences essentially the same? Sorgen is a synonym of verursachen here?

or is there some nuance I'm missing?

[robust glade]

Both mean the same.

[wispy nexus]

Hallo zusammen !! Ich habe eine Frage, was sind die Unterschiede zwischen "Dir tun die Arme immer weh" und "Mir tut die Rücken seit Mittwoch weh" ?

Warum müssen wir tun für dir und tut für mir benutzen ?

[midnight cedar]

die arme ist plural (zwei arme)

Has nothing to do with mir or dir

Because the subject of the sentence are the body parts

In this case mir and dir are the objects and do not effect how the verb is conjugated

[wispy nexus]

ohhh so tun is for plural and and tut is like singular ?

[midnight cedar]

sie (plural) tun
er/es/sie(singular) tut

so yes

[fervent kernel]

Es hängt nicht vom Pronomen ab, sondern davon ob das Subjekt im Satz singular oder plural ist

Der Rücken ist singular und die Arme sind plural

Deswegen ändert sich die Verbform

[copper thicket]

I'd like to know what is the difference between:
Ich esse gern Bananen
ich mag Bananen essen
Does one of them sound more natural

[wispy nexus]

ahaaaaa okayy vielen dank !!

[wispy nexus]

i'm really not sure but i'm guessing "ich esse gern Bananen" ? again i'm not sure so let's wait for someone more competent to answer

[uneven leaf]

Ich esse gern Bananen sounds a lot more natural

[plush pelican]

1st one sounds way more natural

[uneven leaf]

ich mag... isn't usually used for verbs in my experience

[plush pelican]

To say "like" in German:

For liking things: Ich mag X
Ich mag Schokolade.

For liking activities, verbs: Ich (verb) gern
Ich esse gern.
Ich esse gern Bananen.

[copper thicket]

But doesn't gern usually indicate something done as a hobby? That's what has be confused

[plush pelican]

literally, it translates to, "I eat bananas gladly", but it means, "I like eating bananas."

[uneven leaf]

gern basically just means "gladly"

[plush pelican]

that's just how German talks about liking activities

[copper thicket]

Ohh ok that makes much more sense now

[copper thicket]

Thank you for the explanation

[uneven leaf]

that's also why you say things like "ich hätte gerne" to order in a restaurant

it's like "i would gladly have"

[copper thicket]

why was the e added to gern?

[uneven leaf]

the word is "gerne","gern" is basically just a more casual/slang way of saying it

it's like when people shorten "habe" to "hab"

[copper thicket]

Ohhhh ok I see I wasn't aware that it's a slang

Thank you for the explanation

[plush pelican]

both ways are equally acceptable

[uneven leaf]

depends on situation but in everyday life yes

I wouldn't write "gern" in any kind of formal writing

[plush pelican]

It makes literally no difference

https://www.spiegel.de/kultur/zwiebelfisch/zwiebelfisch-abc-gerne-gern-a-323744.html

Einen Bedeutungsunterschied zwischen "gern" und "gerne" gibt es nicht, auch in stilistischer Hinsicht ist kein Unterschied festzustellen - beide Formen gelten als gleichwertig.

[midnight cedar]

piggybacking off of that- is the verb gernhaben something different?

[plush pelican]

the form "gerne" is the older of the two, but both are now regarded as equally valid

[uneven leaf]

hmmmmm

I wonder if this is a regional thing

granted, I'm mostly going off of experience

but I notice a lot more of "gerne" than "gern" and similar constructions in writing than in speech

[plush pelican]

"gern haben" is a verb. German has these things that are like separable verbs, but instead of a separable prefix, it can be an adjective, or a noun, or even another verb.

In these cases, German isn't always consistent about whether to spell it without a space as a single word, or to keep a space.

Rad fahren
spazieren gehen
totschlagen

AH WAIT

"gern haben" was the old spelling

[uneven leaf]

I am very skeptical ngl

[plush pelican]

"gernhaben" is the new spelling since the spelling reform