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plush pelican
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😵‍💫

long whale
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I think you captured it pretty well with the inbuilt cultural difference.

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Btw, I remember the other discussion we had about it, and frankly, with Biden, I can at least understand why you'd want to use "werden/wird". In the other one, where they were talking about what was going to happen after the election, I could not. ;)

plush pelican
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Well, danke for the explanations

hushed dawn
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Interesse an vs für.. Gibt es einen Unterschied in der Bedeutung ?

grand hill
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Hallo
Ich mag kein Käse.
Ich mag nicht ein Käse.
Ich mag nicht einen Käse essen.
Ich mag keinen Käse essen.
Which sentence ist correct-more sutiable for saying "I don't like cheese"?

solid zealot
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faq nicht

stoic mauveBOT
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Negation

Negations or negative sentences in German are formed with either kein or nicht.

You use kein if you want to negate nouns with an indefinite article or without an article, for example:
(1) Ich besitze kein Auto. (I don't own a car.)
(2) Ich habe keinen Hunger. (I'm not hungry.)

kein is always placed right before the noun you want to negate. Also note that you need to decline kein.

If you want to negate anything else you use nicht, for example:
(3) Ich schlafe nicht. (I don't sleep.) [verb]
(4) Ich habe gestern nicht geduscht. (I didn't shower yesterday.) [verb]
(5) Ich gehe nicht gerne schwimmen. (I don't like to go swimming.) [adverb]
(6) Es ist nicht heiß. (It's not hot.) [adjective]
(7) Ich habe nicht dich, sondern ihn gerufen. (I didn't call you, but him.) [pronoun]
(8) Das ist nicht Peters Fahrrad, sondern meins. (This isn't Peters bicycle, but mine.) [proper noun]
(9) Der Zug kommt nicht um 18 Uhr an. (The train doesn't arrive at 6pm.) [preposition]
(10) Ich habe nicht das Essen bezahlt, sondern die Getränke. (I didn't pay for the food, but for the drinks.) [definite article]

‼ Note that nicht almost always comes before the word it negates, unless you want to negate a verb.
If that's the case, it depends on the tense of the verb and on whether there is an auxiliary verb or not. nicht is placed right after the verb if the verb is in present or past tense. For compound tenses or when the sentence has an auxiliary it is placed before the verb.

🌟 Confused by the terminology? See >ex Grammar terms

small urchin
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A message by a native speaker:

weiss ich ehrlich gesagt nicht

Why did they put the verb in position 1 instead of going V2?

timber yacht
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colloquially (and lazily) short for the reply "Das weiß ich ehrlich gesagt nicht."

plush pelican
vernal ermine
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Is there any possiblity of using trenbare verb with weil.

acoustic breach
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Why not?

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Er mag mich, weil ich gut aussehe

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@vernal ermine

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But the "trennbares Verb" is not seperated in Nebensatz

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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Maybe
..., weil ich das Spiel nicht herunterlade

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Ich lade das Spiel herunter
..., weil ich das Spiel nicht herunterlade

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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Mein PC hat keinen Platz mehr, weil ich zu viele Spiele heruntergeladen habe
Ich hasse das Kind, weil er immer herumläuft

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Ich will bei dir sein, weil ich dich liebhabe

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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Weil du schön aussiehst, habe ich dich lieb

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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Weil du schlecht aussiehst, habe ich dich nicht lieb

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Same as how it works in Hauptsatz

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Ich habe dich nicht lieb

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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No it's not wrong, but the emphasis is different

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Ich habe nicht dich lieb. Ich habe ihn lieb

vernal ermine
acoustic breach
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Not you (so it's someone else)

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If you say "ich habe nicht dich lieb", you are saying "I dont like you"

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Ich habe dich nicht lieb: I don't like you

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Ich habe nicht dich lieb. Ich habe ihn lieb
I don't like you. I like him

vernal ermine
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But all looks like same

acoustic breach
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I bolded the emphasised words there

I dont like you (I like someone else)
I dont like you (you are not good. I dont like it)

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Maybe italics is clearer

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Ich habe nicht dich lieb: I dont like you. I like someone else. I am emphasising that it's not you

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In the end, the meaning is similar: you are not liked by me. The difference is the emphasise

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Well, maybe there is a very slight difference

vernal ermine
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Does this grammatically correct?

acoustic breach
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Ja

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But in this context i would prefer "dich nicht lieb"

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Unless you want to say you like someone else instead of "dich"

vernal ermine
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@acoustic breach Vielen Dank 🙂

calm kernel
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"Ich werde stark"
Is it:
-I am becoming strong
-I become strong
or
-I will be strong

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I've seen it used like I will be strong but shouldnt it have been "Ich werde stark sein"

sly summit
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can you give some context? because by itself it doesn't make that much sense

calm kernel
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i mean, i've seen a vid about a guy talking about how men are supposed be strong for their family etc and a guy has commented "dann werde ich stark" or something

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i dont quite remember it

sly summit
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but I'd say I will be strong too. The "sein" would be a good addition to the sentence in german, but it isn't necessary

calm kernel
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hmm i see

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but it could also mean "become" depending on the context right?

sly summit
calm kernel
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ich werde immer stärker, indem ich Sport treibe

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in this context it'd mean become i think

sly summit
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yeah

calm kernel
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einverstanden vielen Dank

sly summit
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no problem

icy flax
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Wird "Bleib mir vom Leib" heutzutage noch gesagt, oder ist es schon ein bisschen etwas, das Opa sagen würde, also das man als veraltend kennzeichnen könnte?

timber yacht
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Eine Situation, in der jemand diesen Satz sagen würde, ist selten. Man sagt es noch heute, aber nur in einem eskalierten Moment. Es ist eine sehr, sehr nachdrückliche Forderung nach körperlicher Distanz. Jemand ist vorher in irgendeiner Weise zudringlich geworden.

icy flax
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Danke dir, @timber yacht!

outer ocean
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this feels more like: what would it be ? instead of whats written but maybe im reading it too literally

valid ingot
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i dont have german on my keyboard so i cant spell it correctly

outer ocean
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ye i get u

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thanks

valid ingot
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no man, i asked the question from you lol

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like can i say it also like that

dawn oxide
valid ingot
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would u mind explaining why

dawn oxide
proven sphinx
# outer ocean

That must be like the weirdest phonetic transcription ever...

dawn oxide
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Yeaah thought that too xD

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On first glance I thought it was a different language or something 😭

proven sphinx
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It looks like Yiddish. 😅

lofty gull
long whale
median timber
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My mother wants me to stay home.
==>
Meine Mutter will, dass ich zu Hause bleiben.
Is this translation correct?

undone verge
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looks good

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oops no

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bleibe not bleiben 🙂

outer ocean
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Du musst gottgelassen sein! is the sein necessary ? if so why? you have a verb already so does it accent it?

undone verge
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it is necessary, 'musst' is a modal verb here.
you must (musst) be (sein)

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gottgelassen sein is what the person "must"

outer ocean
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so you must be god calmed

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in a sense

undone verge
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well...I have to say I have not encountered the word "gottgelassen" before, but I'm not sure it means "god calmed"

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but the grammar part of it is right

outer ocean
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its from a bach cantata

undone verge
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ah, okay

outer ocean
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and the text is from the epistle of the romans

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so probably when it was translated to german by the protestants thats the words they chose

median timber
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I will phone her tomorow.
==>
Ich rufe sie morgen an.
Is this translation correct?

long whale
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Please don't post the same question in more than 1 channel. ;)

fervent kernel
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I would normally use "dann" and not "dass" when I want to mean "then". Is the use of "dass" correct? I have been using "dass" as a equivalent of "that" ( z.B., "Ich würde sagen, dass es regnen wird")

undone verge
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dass is that. And in the picture you posted it is also translated as 'that'

fervent kernel
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Du hast Recht, I was confusing things. Now it is clear, thanks

delicate roost
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what's the difference between Nachname and Familienname?

undone verge
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same thing

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it's both your last name

delicate roost
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oh... no different nuances? they're just interchangeable?

undone verge
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not that I'm aware of 👀

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I guess Familienname explicitly mentions family

dawn oxide
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Nachname is most common tho

delicate roost
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funny language..

dawn oxide
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Most people don't rlly use familienname, often when you're filling out an application it also just says 'Name'

night dagger
delicate roost
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ah thanks!

green solstice
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Hello!

I'm studying for Comptia certs (computer networking) and was wondering if anybody knows where terms would be could for searching relevant discord servers, but in the German language.

I have had no luck so far using Google translate (seems to be ok for Russian, but not German?)

long whale
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Please don't post the same question in more than one channel. People may not realize a question has been answered in a different channel -> waste of time and effort. ;)

dense obsidian
green solstice
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Ah, thanks.

split nimbus
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hallo Freunde! does anybody have any recommendations for the best way to learn German? or apps that you personally use for learning German

long whale
split nimbus
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vielen Dank!!

half stump
shut briar
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Hey guys this is a bit off topic but can someone please recommend me an app where I can collect all my class readings and assignments and stuff in an efficient way, I'm so overwhelmed, my classes start tomorrow and I am scared I'll be as disorganised as last time. For reference I have Adhd

near prairie
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upload the materials and stuff there

plain umbra
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I just picked a random video, I've never seen it before, so maybe there's a better one, but hopefully it gives you some idea of what you do.

shut briar
plain umbra
shut briar
plain umbra
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And if there's a way the teacher/professor/whoever can make it more accessible to you, don't be afraid to ask.

fervent kernel
# shut briar Hey guys this is a bit off topic but can someone please recommend me an app wher...

I have a google drive folder for the semester and subfolders for all modules. then I just store all of the pdf files etc. I regularly need in there for each module. Often time making things simple makes them more convenient to use during the semester. For iPad I would definitely use Goodnotes, most people using it seem to be very content with it. Notion only makes sense if you need additional planning and can help with having to plan learning for exams etc, but tbh. it is just a folder system for text files in the end

shut briar
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Yes it takes more time on notion for me than actually revising. I just need a place to store and organise pdfs

calm kernel
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Hey, my question is:

When to use in+artikel or just in regarding these kind of nouns:
-in (artikel??) Sinne von ...
-in (artikel??) Bezug auf
-in (artkel??) Rahmen ...

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dies sind diejenigen, die mir einfefallen sind. wenn es mehrere gibt, oder einfach eine Regel dafür gibt, dann bitte teilt es mit

tight saffron
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What is the difference between für and zum?

timber yacht
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plain umbra
long whale
vernal ermine
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Why there is freunden instead of freunde and kindern instead of kinder?

long whale
vernal ermine
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What is Nebensätze

ripe dust
ripe dust
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In one word, this is two or more sentences that are separated, which are dependent on each other for meaning. In German, they are separated by a comma, and the verb in the adjective part comes at the end

calm kernel
ripe dust
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For example: Ich muss heute früh aufstehen, weil ich morgen eine Prüfung habe

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@vernal ermine Here's a most basic information

ripe dust
# vernal ermine Danke schön

BUT, if you'll begin a sentence with a conjunction, like in my example with "weil", the word order will look like conjunction ... 1st verb, 2 verb ...

ripe dust
vernal ermine
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What is dass? How it is used

ripe dust
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It's change word order like "weil"

vernal ermine
ripe dust
# vernal ermine how we use it

Well, it's hard for me to explain. This conjunction can be used as a connector in your speech. The translate of it is "that".

vernal ermine
ripe dust
vernal ermine
ripe dust
vernal ermine
ripe dust
vernal ermine
long whale
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*dass du Deutsch sprechen kannst

vernal ermine
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Vor bereite or vorbereite. Which one is correct.

ripe dust
long whale
vernal ermine
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Ich werde nicht kommen, weil du mich nicht anrufst. Is this sentence correct?

undone verge
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ye

vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
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In German what is correct word for jewels and ornaments

tranquil ferry
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schmuck

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If you mean jewelry

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But I think there's also Juwelen and Ornamente if you want them individually

long whale
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*Ornamente is the plural of "das Ornament" (Ornamenten would be Dativ plural)

long whale
tranquil ferry
vernal ermine
long whale
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a piece/pieces of jewelry = das Schmuckstück, die Schmuckstücke

vernal ermine
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Then what is schmuckwaren

long whale
vernal ermine
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How we say some jewels

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As an akkusative form

vernal ermine
long whale
dry apex
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When do i use "wie viel" and "wie viele"? I don't understand what's the difference between both viel and viele

long whale
dry apex
light falcon
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schmuck always feels like sludge

vernal ermine
hushed dawn
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Hallo,

Hat "Im Gang bringen" die gleiche Bedeutung von "Die Initiative ergreifen" ?

long whale
lofty gull
regal heath
lofty gull
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😕

rancid shoal
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łondehajdenidedrajdynwewenaj

long whale
# lofty gull habe ich mich verirrt?

Funktionsverbgefüge is fine (just not a word many native German speakers are familiar with). ;) However, you can only wonder "Habe ich mich verirrt?" when you've literally lost your way, in a maze, in the woods, or in an unfamiliar city (sich verirren). Here, you'd ask "Habe ich mich geirrt?" (sich irren = to err) ;)

hushed dawn
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Wie entschied man sich dafür, ob ein Nomen "ergreifen" oder "geben" nimmt.
z.B., einen Rat ist immer mit geben, aber eine Antwort nimmt beides.

regal heath
delicate tiger
calm kernel
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"Es ist ziemlich lange her, dass mich das jemand gefragt hat."

I've seen this sentence in a scene. I know that the order of the words can be pretty flexible but would "... , dass jemand mich das gefragt hat" be a better and more natural choice?

calm kernel
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Whaaaa

calm kernel
long whale
calm kernel
long whale
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Or, in other words: which case is "das" in?

undone verge
calm kernel
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akkusativ ne?

long whale
# calm kernel akkusativ ne?

Correct. "fragen" requires double Akkusativ. And the pronun... Ehh - doesn't the personal pronoun in Akk come first, anyway, @undone verge ? 🤔

calm kernel
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sagen

long whale
calm kernel
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mir

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entschuldigen

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ja

long whale
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And you would say Könnte mir jemand dabei helfen?

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But... Könnte mir dabei jemand helfen? would also work.

calm kernel
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hm

undone verge
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but his reordering has more to do with where the subject is standing, doesn't it?
'jemand' in the normal subject position (right after dass) vs. jemand behind the two accusative objects.
If it were a proper noun/normal subject, it would usually come at the beginning. At least that how it works with a lot of these types of constructions. Unfortunately my head is empty of examples at the moment

long whale
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Ah - of course, you're right, @undone verge

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slaps forehead

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... dass mich Tom das gefragt hat

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Still, the above seems more natural/normal, more like the "default" version than ... dass Tom mich das gefragt hat (although this wouldn't be wrong, either) @calm kernel

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(As a side note, I wish they'd said ... seit mich jemand danach gefragt hat - which seems better to me in various ways)

spiral vapor
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What does the question "Was meinst du, wie du abgeschnitten hast?" in a context of a job interview mean?

calm kernel
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i also thought like why isnt it seit instead of dass??

undone verge
spiral vapor
calm kernel
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"Es ist lange Zeit gewesen, seit ich letztes Mal das gemacht habe." @long whale ist so eine vom Englischen übersetzten Formulierung korrekt?

hushed dawn
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zu Ende führen vs zu Ende bringen vs Zum Abschluss bringen ?

spiral vapor
long whale
calm kernel
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kk i try wanted to give it a try😅 vielen dank

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i just wanted to give it a try*

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omg im a high

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am i high*

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WHAT IS HAPPENING

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(no im not tho)

stuck bough
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When would u use welche(r,s etc.) instead of der/die/das etc. as a relative pronoun? I understand that u can't use the former in the genitive and that the latter is more common, so when, if ever, would u opt for welche(r,s etc.)?

acoustic breach
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Not answering your question but the former could be use in genitiv (deren and dessen)

stuck bough
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alright, one article i came across suggested that u might use it to avoid repetition e.g., die Frau, welche die Post austraegt, as opposed to die Frau, die die Post austraegt. Is this at least conceivable?

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that is, would someone ever actively make the decision to use welcher etc. to avoid repetition?

long whale
stuck bough
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Cool thx; that makes sense as I only came across an example of it being used in a pretty old short story.

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i'll just stick with der/die/das etc. then

keen gazelle
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Hi mods and staff

shut briar
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What is the purpose of noch in this sentence 'Notizen noch am selben Tag überprüfen'

shut briar
# long whale "no later than"

Ah i see. That's why I was always confused, it's nowhere close to the original meaning of the word. It'll take time to sink in 🥲

shut briar
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I was referring to noch used as still

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I think it's better to call is 'main meaning'?

hushed dawn
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so vielen Jahren "vergangen" oder "verstreichen" ?

long whale
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Both work, but verstreichen is highly literary/uncommon when used with "Zeit".

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And please don't rip such things out of context. There's either a preposition like "seit" before that - or the endings are plain wrong.

hushed dawn
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Vielen Dank

stuck bough
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'Mochte es nun der Mangel an Geistesgegenwart oder an Muth sein, den Haufen zu durchbrechen und einfach seines Weges zu gehen, – er that dieses nicht, sondern...'; I'm having some difficulty with this sentence, specifically the translation of 'mochte es nun...' here. What exactly does this mean and what, if any, logic is behind this expression?

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I think I grasp the general idea (that 'der Mangel an Geistesgegenwart oder an Mut(h)' is the source of his inability to break through the crowd), but I'm not sure as to a more precise meaning.

long whale
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Er mag mich missverstanden haben = He may have misunderstood me

stuck bough
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oh cool, that clears it up

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is this use particularly common?

long whale
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these days.

stuck bough
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tysm

fervent kernel
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This is not related to the language, but I'd like to know if it is rude to ask for a few points for an exam in Germany? I did that and the teacher's face changed suddenly. I used a formal and polite version "I was wondering". Can it be the problem?

Ich frage mich, ob es irgendwie möglich ist, ...

velvet venture
fervent kernel
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When you say "ich frage mich"

echo sleet
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ppl do that all the time in school

velvet venture
fervent kernel
echo sleet
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cuz if so

fervent kernel
echo sleet
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maybe the impression was bad
asking for a few points in a german exam with incorrect german

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but idk

velvet venture
fervent kernel
delicate tiger
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"Sind da möglicherweise noch irgendwo genug Punkte drin, um die Note auf eine 2- zu bringen?"

echo sleet
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or

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my favorite way

fervent kernel
velvet venture
echo sleet
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look at the exam and actually try to figure out which mistakes you can identify and which not, and if there are any that you can't, ask the teacher for clarification

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they might back down

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on certain things

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it's not unusual for them to say "well we can add a point or 2 here"

long whale
fervent kernel
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And you guessed it right. It was a fail or pass situation

long whale
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And that's why their face changed.

fervent kernel
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I'm waiting for the result

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Still, crossing fingers 🤞

long whale
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You haven't even got the result, but you wanted it changed? totally confused

fervent kernel
echo sleet
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he's preparing in advance

fervent kernel
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So, it's not final yet

plush pelican
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Do people use "nen" even when that doesn't make sense for the case? For example, when it's nominative case?

I'm on the r/DE discord server and saw this comment:

geht dabei ja auch um politische einflüsse und thiel is nen großer trump spender und gop cultur war spender allgemein

undone verge
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I wouldn't think so..gotta admit I'm no expert on slang, but it seems wrong

plush pelican
cursive wing
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"[...]Thiel ist ein grosser trump spender"

undone verge
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nen isn't even shorter than ein 😭 I get it for einen but why use it for ein lol

plush pelican
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The same way "ne" is short for "eine"

cursive wing
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"ne" could also be a very casual form of"no"

plush pelican
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Here's another example of "nen" from that server:

hab nur in nen stream kurz reingeschaut und gesehen, wie sich die putinfreunde am anderen ufer versammelten für den autokorso

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I assume that's accusative masculine

plush pelican
undone verge
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maybe because english has so much less grammar, but I don't feel like there's a quarter as much changing and debating the language in real time as with German 😂

calm kernel
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Jemand, einer und niemand, keiner. When to use which?

long whale
# calm kernel Jemand, einer und niemand, keiner. When to use which?

Not sure I'm not going to forget sth, but... Difference 1: jemand and niemand can only refer to people, the others can also refer to an animal or an object. In casual spoken German, jemand/einer and niemand/keiner are used interchangeably for somebody, resp. nobody. Difference 2: in written German, we differentiate: jemand = a random person, niemand = nobody. einer and keiner = one [of them] and not [a single] one [of them], i.e. somebody/nobody from a specific group of people.

fiery dock
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ugh, I still don't really know the best way to learn grammar

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for example, this sentence

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Finanziell gesehen geht es dem Unternehmen gut.

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I recognize every word in it

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and yet the actual meaning of the sentence is confusing me

naive shore
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are the answers written for 6a correct? any better way to answer this ?

near folio
delicate tiger
fiery dock
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financially, the firm is doing well

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or something like that

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I just don't really understand what role a lot of the words are fulfilling

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oh I think it would be easier for my mind to parse if it were written as

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"Finanziell gesehen, geht es dem Unternehmen gut."

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but German's comma rules are...

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different

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from English's

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lol

delicate tiger
naive shore
acoustic breach
naive shore
acoustic breach
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Im not sure if it should be "ich mag ... lieber" or ich mag lieber ..."

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I cant answer 😅

naive shore
naive shore
acoustic breach
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There is no double infinitiv here...?

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There is only one verb: mag

naive shore
acoustic breach
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Yes

naive shore
acoustic breach
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One of them is probably more idiomatic

naive shore
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hmmm

acoustic breach
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Idk lol

naive shore
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ok no problem thanks btw

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hey, can someone please tell me what does the forth column words mean/ used for with examples please.

acoustic breach
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Diese Kiste ist am schwersten
Das ist die schwerste Kiste

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@naive shore

naive shore
acoustic breach
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...eh? It isnt the concern here

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Where is the change?

naive shore
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wait nevermind

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that e is mandatory

plush pelican
# naive shore ok so adjectives change depending on the noun's gender in front of them ?

adjectives change depending on the gender and case of the noun after them, and depending on if there's a definite or indefinite article in front of them.

https://www.germanveryeasy.com/adjective-declension

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But if the adjective is on its own, not attached to a noun, then the noun isn't influencing it.

acoustic breach
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But for now, if it's in the case of Nominativ, you can safely use der/die/das ...-e

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Im not sure if it would be confusing so I didnt go to the topic of adjective declensions

hushed dawn
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ärgerlich auf jmdn vs böse auf jmdn ??

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Ist "böse auf jmdn" stärker als die andere ?

gusty silo
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böse or wütend, ärgerlich sounds odd

hushed dawn
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Okey

gusty silo
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well, or maybe i'm just being weird right now, but böse and wütend definitely work

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but yes they are stronger than ärgerlich would be

hushed dawn
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Vielen Dank

hushed dawn
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besorgt über vs beunruhigt über...

Beides übersetzt als "concerned/worried about", aber gibt es einen Unterschied ?

long whale
reef moss
dense obsidian
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not uncommon at all. Google gives 235k results for "beunruhigt über"

reef moss
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This strongly indicates that the phrase is uncommon

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Because little to no articles from native speakers are directly shown

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Additionally, the corpus which I used only listed a handful of examples! The phrase is anything but common

dense obsidian
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"EU beunruhigt über Erdogans Russland-Politik" (https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/eu-sanktionen-tuerkei-russland-100.html)

"Vereinte Nationen beunruhigt über weltweiten Anstieg des Drogenmissbrauchs" (https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video-1213054.html)

"SPD-Politikerin Heinrich beunruhigt über Israels Justizreform" (https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/spd-politikerin-heinrich-beunruhigt-ueber-israels-justizreform,TlCRWuJ)

"Northvolt: Landtag beunruhigt über Verzögerung" (https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/schleswig-holstein_magazin/Northvolt-Landtag-beunruhigt-ueber-Verzoegerung,shmag99498.html)

"Deutsche beunruhigt über Plastik in Lebensmitteln (https://www.aerztezeitung.de/Medizin/Deutsche-beunruhigt-ueber-Plastik-in-Lebensmitteln-226494.html)

I could probably go on and do this for the next 2 hours.

gusty silo
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these... do all feel better to me than, say, "Ich bin über meinen Freund beunruhigt", whatever we want to make of that

reef moss
dense obsidian
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Are you really comparing "negoziieren" to "über etwas beunruhigt sein"?

reef moss
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I will not pursue this topic further, but I have objectively shown that the very phrase you argue to be common fetches less results than a rare word. Even if one argues that there are other ways to forumulate the phrase to get higher results, it has been shown that using Google as a basis for judging how common a word is is dubious at best

dense obsidian
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well idk dude

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any other native want to chime in? i'm kinda speechless.

long whale
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You got the opinions of 2 native speakers and a top-notch C2 speaker. What more do you want? 😄

sage canyon
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if you'd like, this B2 speaker can also affirm what the native speakers and top-notch C2 speaker have said

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though that's a little in the wrong direction

gusty silo
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a solution to the conundrum of it both existing and being rejected by others, i suppose, but such a thing is wont to occur occasionally

inland field
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"über etwas beunruhigt sein" is actually quite common here in Austria.

timber yacht
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"beunruhigt über" to me appears to be a news phrase or diplomatic phrase, as all your cited google hits confirm

gusty silo
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i feel like the crux might be that it works with situations but not people?

sage canyon
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is that because besorgen is for people?

gusty silo
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or even situations but not concrete words? i feel like "Ich bin über seine Gesundheit beunruhigt" also doesn't score very well for me

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but that might be more arguable

gusty silo
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or sich Sorgen machen

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or, for that matter, sich sorgen

inland field
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"besorgt" definitely fits better into empathy scenarios.

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"beunruhigt" I would use for Situations that are or atleast seem to be threathing in some way.

gusty silo
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Ich bin um ihn besorgt
Ich sorge mich um ihn
Ich mache mir Sorgen um ihn
👍
Ich bin beunruhigt über ihn
🤔

inland field
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If you walk into a dark alley and someone else is walking towards you, then "Ich bin beunruhigt über ihn" fits, imo.

reef moss
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It seems the only exception is "über jemandes Schicksal beunruhigt sein"

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All others have some political connotation: Folge, Lage, Entwicklung… and Äußerungen seems to only appear in political contexts

dense obsidian
edgy belfry
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Liebes Tagebuch. Heute war eine guter Tag. Chandrayaan ist auf dem Mond gelandet. Ich habe den Livestream auf YouTube gesehen. Aber ich habe meine IELTS-Tests nicht durchgeführt. Ich werde morgen meine IELTS Writing Tests durchführen. Ich habe auch einige YouTube-Videos von dem YouTube Channel "Easy German" gesehen. Es war über Deutsche Verben.

Is this good? Can someone correct grammatical errors?

long whale
edgy belfry
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"einen guten Tag"?

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A bit confused on whether it's Accusative or Dative

long whale
edgy belfry
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Oh right

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Einer gute?

long whale
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Btw, eine Tag simply doesn't exist, whichever case it is. ;)

edgy belfry
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That makes it a lot more clear

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Articles concept was a bit fuzzy for me

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"Ein guter"?

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Hope it's right this time

long whale
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It is, yes.

edgy belfry
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Now for the other ones:

Aber ich habe meine IELTS-Tests nicht gemacht
Es ging darin um Deutsche Verben
(Is the e at the end of Deutsche correct?)

edgy belfry
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Danke Susana

timber yacht
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nicht deutsche Verben?

long whale
golden moat
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Also gen ist Genitiv dat Dativ aber was akk

long whale
golden moat
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Deutse Sprache swere sprache

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does anyone know a good playlist/songs/noises/whatever to fall asleep to

long whale
golden moat
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Achso

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Welches General

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Oder is egal?

vernal ermine
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At some times, when I pronounce words with umlaut I feel some difficulty to differentiate ä, ö, ü and a, O, u. Native Speakers how you pronounce those umlaut correctly. Internet sources have their own different pronounciation.

brave flint
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Was haben Sie ( im / beim ) Urlaub gemacht?

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Welche Präposition ist richtig?

fervent kernel
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Im

brave flint
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danke

fervent kernel
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Gern geschehen

tardy rivet
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Hallo! Was bedeutet “tja”?

undone verge
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it basically means..."yeah", but is also sorta of dismissive and like "well, what can ya do."

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i.e. it's one of those words that is more about tone than any literal meaning

vernal ermine
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Feel sad guys

undone verge
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there's long and short versions of those letters. idk what you mean with 'internet sources have their own pronunciation.' I think you're best off choosing some specific words, listening to how they're pronounced (dict.cc, for example) and trying to copy it

long whale
undone verge
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also practicing singular plural pairs where one is umlaut and one isn't can help differentiate.
Buch / Bücher
Stadt / Städte
etc

long whale
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Btw, you don't have to worry about Ä - it's perfectly acceptable if you pronounce it the same as E, even in Standard German. ;) @vernal ermine

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(Just to be clear: the other way around is not acceptable!)

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
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You see here that's what I am asking you?

left crown
long whale
vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
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I need to know that how ä, ö, ü are spelled in English words

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Like if we see J is spelled as yot and k is spelled as kaa

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Like that I am asking you

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Other alphabet I know better

small urchin
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@vernal ermine learn the IPA

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Several German sounds don't exist in English

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So you're better off learning them as it is rather than comparing them to English

vernal ermine
small urchin
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faq IPA

stoic mauveBOT
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IPA

The International Phonetic Alphabet is a system for writing sounds regardless of the language: one sound will have only one letter for it, so it's really helpful for learning pronunciation in any language without relying on approximations.

IPA has a lot of symbols, but you don't need to learn them all.

🔸 What are those // and [] I see around?
Symbols in slashes (like /r/) represent so-called phonemes, units of sound. Each phoneme can be pronounced in different ways depending on where it is in the word. For example, the phoneme /r/ is pronounced [ʁ] in most situations, but [ɐ] after vowels. As you can see, square brackets (like [ʁ]) represent actual sounds. Finally, pointy brackets like ⟨r⟩ represent how a sound is written, which can vary from language to language.
Example: ⟨sprechen⟩ /sprεçən/ [ʃpʁε.çn̩]

🔸 So how to learn it?
All you need to learn is the few symbols used by the language you're interested in. For German, you can look up the relevant letters on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Standard_German. Notice the Help:IPA/Language_Name pattern in the URL.
There, you will find a table of symbols with an approximation, but you can also click on each specific symbol to learn exactly how to pronounce it studying the Features section, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal_fricative#Features

🔸 Which IPA letters are important for German?
Sounds you are likely to have trouble with are ⟨x⟩, ⟨ç⟩, ⟨ʁ⟩, ⟨ɐ⟩ and several vowels. These are all described in the Wiki link above.
You can use this website to transcribe German words if your dictionary doesn't give an IPA transcription:
http://tom.brondsted.dk/text2phoneme/

long whale
# vernal ermine I need to know that how ä, ö, ü are spelled in English words

The problem is: if I tell you German long Ö is the same sound as the vowel in the English word "bird", it would probably not sound the same as it ought to sound in a German word (I think this is because a) as you said, English is spoken with many different accents and b) the surrounding consonants can influence the vowel sound).

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
vernal ermine
vernal ermine
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It came after mit , is it same like kindern for dativ

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I searched that word in dictionary but not there.

red palm
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quick question

Is this supposed to mean "how much are you paying this month?" I can't exactly understand what the english translation wants to convey

foggy mist
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(Höhle = cave
Hölle = hell)

vernal ermine
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Ich möchte bei meinen Großeltern zum Abend essen

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Does my sentence formation correct.

long whale
foggy mist
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The rule is: if you use dative plural you have to append an -n to the nominative plural form:

die Monate / den Monaten
die Eier / den Eiern
die Bäume / den Bäumen
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  • If the nominative plural already ends with an -n, it remains the same:
    

    die Mädchen / den Mädchen

  • Exception: If the plural form ends with an -s, you do not append an -n to it:

    die Fotos / den Fotos
    die Autos / den Autos
    PCs / den PCs

calm kernel
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"Du kannst nicht einfach so tun, als wäre nichts passiert"

What tense is this? Shouldn't it be "als würde nichts passieren"? I didn't understand why we use wäre and why we double conjugate the verbs.

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Verhalten sich "passiert" in diesem Context wie ein Adjektiv oder sowas?

south zenith
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It’s past tense, what you said is a correct sentence, but it doesn’t mean the same thing

„…als wäre nichts passiert“
Means „as if nothing happened

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And this requires the Konjunktiv

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So instead of
„Als ob nichts passiert ist“
You get
„Als ob nichts passiert wäre“
-> „als wäre nichts passiert“

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„Als würde nichts passieren“ means
„As if nothing would happen“

calm kernel
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okay thanks a lot

cyan trench
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Could anyone explain what does "Er hat sich vor ainiger Zeit aus dem Staub gemacht" means? I can get the idea of "he ran away" but I think there's more to this phrase than that.

gusty silo
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it may be used with the connotation of running away to avoid trouble, before something happens, to do so a bit cowardly perhaps? it's not necessarily cowardly but it often implies you disapprove of it, i'd say

fallow marsh
cyan trench
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Oh, I see. Thank you.

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
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But I have doubt with Zu in that sentence.

long whale
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(to dine/to lunch)

vernal ermine
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What's the meaning of zu here

long whale
calm kernel
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das einzige Brot im Supermarkt
oder
das einzelne Brot im Supermarkt

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welches wäre richtig?

long whale
calm kernel
long whale
# calm kernel könntest du das aufklären?

To me, "einzeln" implies bread loaves are usually sold in packets of 2 or more, or only together with bread rolls or sth -> it's a "solitary" bread loaf. "einzig" just means there's only one left (it's probably the word you're looking for)

calm kernel
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i see

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danke

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ich hab online gelesen, dass einzeln eher als ein Adverb verwendet wird

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"Beantworte die Fragen einzeln!"

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Ich glaube das kann man mit einzig nicht machen

long whale
long whale
lunar jasper
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Welche ist richtig"Ich denke, das ist alles für heute" oder "Ich denke,dass das alles für heute ist"

calm kernel
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Sollte es nicht zum Zweck sein?

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das Zweck(-e)

long whale
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*der Zweck - Dative-e is obsolete, except in fixed expressions -> you may occasionally come across it. Here, it's definitely optional, though.

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@calm kernel

calm kernel
proven sphinx
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Apart from a few set phrases like "im Sinne".

calm kernel
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i never questioned it and couldnt make sense of it

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i'll keep in mind danke beide

velvet venture
plush pelican
# lunar jasper Welche ist richtig"Ich denke, das ist alles für heute" oder "Ich denke,dass das ...

Both. Certain verbs have a special situation where they can be followed by what's known as an "uneingeleiteter Nebensatz", an "unintroduced dependent clause."

For these verbs, the clause following them then looks like a Hauptsatz, a main clause, including having the conjugated verb in position 2.

That's what's happening in the first sentence, and then the second sentence is just doing the normal Nebensatz. Both work.

But, this only works for certain verbs.

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Here's Hammer's German Grammar 17.2.1(b), talking about this idea.

lunar jasper
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Thank you

vernal ermine
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How many types of adverb are there in german

undone verge
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what do you mean types?

vernal ermine
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?

undone verge
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the ones you hear about are tekamolo (temporal=time, kausal = why, modal=manner, lokal = place)

plain umbra
vernal ermine
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Like this how many types are there in german

plain umbra
vernal ermine
plain umbra
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Basically there's no exact answer.

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But German and English are similar enough that they have the same adverb categories.

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So however you choose to split up English adverbs should work for German.

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This one even has 16:

vernal ermine
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Yes, you are correct but when I search in internet for some sources, they just give / show only adverb of time, place and manner in German. Which is very less than English.

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I cannot able to learn other adverbs

plain umbra
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If you're looking for adverbs in a specific category you can just search that.

vernal ermine
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If you have some adverb resources along with category, please share it.

plain umbra
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That's temporal, kausal, modal, lokal. (Time, cause, mode, place)

vernal ermine
plain umbra
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Google TeKaMoLo.

vernal ermine
plain umbra
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Cause = why
Mode = how

vernal ermine
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In adverb

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Please give some examples.

plain umbra
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Cause: wegen des Wetters = because of the weather
Mode: mit dem Auto = by car

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
plain umbra
vernal ermine
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Then how it became adverb

plain umbra
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Prepositional phrases are all adverbs.

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Technically you can call it adverbial.

vernal ermine
plain umbra
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Yes.

vernal ermine
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What adverb we have for fast in german

plain umbra
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faq dict

stoic mauveBOT
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What does this word mean?

The best way to understand the meaning of a word is to use a dictionary. Monolingual dictionaries such as dwds.de, de.wiktionary.org and duden.de will often provide the most accurate definitions and examples for a word. If you are not yet comfortable with using a monolingual dictionary, bilingual dictionaries are also an option (dict.cc, dict.leo.org, pons.com).

The key here is to empower yourself to find the answer on your own. Using the many examples provided in dictionaries like DWDS, Wiki and Duden can help you confidently understand the word, and how to use it. If you still have trouble; don't worry! You can use #questions, #questions-2 or the #942470380692590632 to ask someone for further clarification.

plain umbra
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Here are some dictionaries you can use to look up words.

vernal ermine
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Can I use this table for adverbs

foggy mist
# vernal ermine

Any adjective can be used as an adverb simply by removing the inflection

vernal ermine
foggy mist
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"schnell" = quick, fast, at a high speed

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"fast" = almost, not quite

vernal ermine
foggy mist
foggy mist
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Ich laufe schnell.

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I walk quickly/fast/at a fast pace

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"schnell" describes the verb "laufe" and thus has no ending

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adjectives and adverbs both describe words

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"schnell" can be used as an adjective to describe nouns and also as an adverb to describe verbs and other adjectives

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when adejctives attribute nouns in German they gain an ending to match the noun

"der schnelle Mann" - the quick man

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when they attribute verbs or other adjectives, they have no ending

"er läuft schnell" - he runs quickly

plain umbra
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Like for example "erst" and "nur" both translate to "only" but different meanings of "only".

vernal ermine
foggy mist
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??

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
vernal ermine
foggy mist
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add st

adjective: [x]st

der schnellste Mann der Welt

adverb: am [x]ten

Er läuft am schnellsten.

it is not the same in English, in English adjectives usually need to gain a "ly" ending to be used as adverbs
quick - adjective (schnell)
quickly - adverb (schnell)

vernal ermine
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What is the difference between erst and nur as an adverb?

foggy mist
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the meaning

vernal ermine
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Yes

foggy mist
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erst acutually is more related to "just" and it means that it is surprising or noteworthy that this has not happend before this point

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example: Why do you want to wake up at 7 if you are not going to leave until noon?

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the second part would be "wenn du erst um Mittag gehst"?

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you could say,
not until x = erst um x

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it can also be first

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Ich dachte erst ...
I first thought...

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Erst mal was essen.
First, (let's) eat something.

vernal ermine
foggy mist
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it is a condition

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" if you are not going to leave until noon"

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so the verb is last

vernal ermine
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Why we don't use bis instead of erst

foggy mist
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becuase German isn't just English translated into German ahaha

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we have our own way to say things

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erst in this meaning doesn't even exist in English

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I could ask you why you don't just say "erst"?

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I could ask you, why don't you have a word for that?

small urchin
foggy mist
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It is already noon. = Es ist schon Mittag.
It is only noon? = Es ist erst Mittag?

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why do you not have this word in English @vernal ermine ?

vernal ermine
foggy mist
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no

vernal ermine
tribal gust
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hello guys

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any german expert here ?

undone verge
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it is better to just ask your question. There's almost certainly someone who can answer it

vernal ermine
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@foggy mist why I can't say Es ist Mittag instead of Es ist erst Mittag

tribal gust
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just start learning german like a month and ii had some issues with the use of |

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'nicht' , how we can use it correctly in sentences

vernal ermine
foggy mist
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not having the same meanign does not mean it is wrong

undone verge
vernal ermine
tribal gust
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like after verb , before adverb

vernal ermine
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With erst

foggy mist
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check this out

undone verge
tribal gust
hushed dawn
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allerbesten vs besten ??

undone verge
hushed dawn
tribal gust
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the last topic i read was the dativ

undone verge
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might be a bit high level, but that's a guide

tribal gust
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lets say i want to say i dont want that , is that translate to : ich nicht möchte das ?

dawn oxide
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faq negation

stoic mauveBOT
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Negation

Negations or negative sentences in German are formed with either kein or nicht.

You use kein if you want to negate nouns with an indefinite article or without an article, for example:
(1) Ich besitze kein Auto. (I don't own a car.)
(2) Ich habe keinen Hunger. (I'm not hungry.)

kein is always placed right before the noun you want to negate. Also note that you need to decline kein.

If you want to negate anything else you use nicht, for example:
(3) Ich schlafe nicht. (I don't sleep.) [verb]
(4) Ich habe gestern nicht geduscht. (I didn't shower yesterday.) [verb]
(5) Ich gehe nicht gerne schwimmen. (I don't like to go swimming.) [adverb]
(6) Es ist nicht heiß. (It's not hot.) [adjective]
(7) Ich habe nicht dich, sondern ihn gerufen. (I didn't call you, but him.) [pronoun]
(8) Das ist nicht Peters Fahrrad, sondern meins. (This isn't Peters bicycle, but mine.) [proper noun]
(9) Der Zug kommt nicht um 18 Uhr an. (The train doesn't arrive at 6pm.) [preposition]
(10) Ich habe nicht das Essen bezahlt, sondern die Getränke. (I didn't pay for the food, but for the drinks.) [definite article]

‼ Note that nicht almost always comes before the word it negates, unless you want to negate a verb.
If that's the case, it depends on the tense of the verb and on whether there is an auxiliary verb or not. nicht is placed right after the verb if the verb is in present or past tense. For compound tenses or when the sentence has an auxiliary it is placed before the verb.

🌟 Confused by the terminology? See >ex Grammar terms

undone verge
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well no. Why would nicht come before the verb??

tribal gust
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ich mochte nicht das ?

undone verge
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ich möchte das nicht

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did you take a look at the diagram above?

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Or the website? Or the faq?

tribal gust
vernal ermine
# foggy mist please read this

Yes I understand it now. It is like a word to express a condition which is only used in German and doesn't have an exact word in English.

tribal gust
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so we can use it before modals , but what about other placements ?

undone verge
vernal ermine
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In English only refers to a specification of thing, place or person

undone verge
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achso like modal in the adverbials, yes

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thought you meant modal verbs for a sec 😅

foggy mist
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it's just a long way to say:

for verbs it goes like this:

Ich tanze nicht.
Ich will nicht.
Ich will nicht tanzen.

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Ich mache nicht mit.

vernal ermine
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This is what the meaning in english

tribal gust
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so how we can say i cant ? with können verb

dawn oxide
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Give it a try

obsidian palm
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ich kann nicht

dawn oxide
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Bruh xd

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It's better to let people try a little first

vernal ermine
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@foggy mist Vielen Dank

dawn oxide
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Than give the answer right away

undone verge
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well, in Keevi's defense they probably didn't notice that this was a huge conversation and were just trying to be helpful. 😛

obsidian palm
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ty

tribal gust
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let me try another , i want to say i dont eat breakfast is that ' ich esse nicht frushtuck ?

undone verge
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with nouns (Frühstück), you would use 'kein'

dawn oxide
undone verge
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maybe try with the sentence: 'I don't like this song' (and yes, I know it has a noun, but i promise nicht will work)

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or 'I don't want to drive''

vernal ermine
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Does anybody have adverb table . Please share it with me.

undone verge
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an adverb table? What would that be?

tribal gust
undone verge
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close though. The position of nicht is correct (ich will nicht fahren)

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so good job 👍

tribal gust
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start to get it

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tnx for helping

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
tribal gust
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yeah , its really confusing language but its fun to learn tbh

vernal ermine
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Many words in German have different meaning and many rules are also there. Gender is there. It is not so simple as English.

tribal gust
vernal ermine
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Give constant practice @tribal gust

undone verge
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in these sentences, nicht wouldn't be used

tribal gust
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i really hope to learn , have some plans to go to the germany i f i can finish learning it

undone verge
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even if you don't learn it all before coming, you'll learn a lot just being here 🙂

tribal gust
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tnx to the help of all you guys

tribal gust
vernal ermine
tribal gust
undone verge
vernal ermine
undone verge
tribal gust
undone verge
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there's no comprehensive list of adverbs (and it wouldn't be super useful anyway)

tribal gust
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oh yeah , i get it

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like : der mann sieht den hund ?

undone verge
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yes exactly

tribal gust
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the nominativ form was that simple sentence form am i right ? like : ich habe ein mutter

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or ich bin parss

undone verge
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nominative is the subject. So 'ich' is nominative.
the case of the "object" depends on the verb. haben always requires accusative. So
ich (nom) habe eine Mutter (akk)
or
ich (nom) habe einen Hund (akk)

sein takes nominative on both sides: ich bin ein Hund.

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sehen, as you correctly noticed earlier, takes an accusative object. Hence: ich sehe einen Hund

tribal gust
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so again its all about verbs

undone verge
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here, yes. But there's other situations where case depends on a preposition, for example. You'll learn about it later 🙂

tribal gust
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Sie sind gut fruends : nominative ?

undone verge
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yes (Sie sind gute Freunde)

tribal gust
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hmm

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so we have something called trennbar , i almost got what is all about but the i think i just need to memorise more verbs like the artikles (der die ) for vocabs

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a little question for you

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where we can use feste propositions ?

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better to be said , how we can use them properly

undone verge
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feste prepositions?

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I would leave trennbare Verbs for later. Though the concept is simple. Just a prefix that pops to the end of the sentence.

verb-preposition pairs you just have to memorise

hushed dawn
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vorerst vs jetzt ?

long whale
long whale
vernal ermine
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How reflexive pronomen used with perfect tense? Also give some example sentence in negation of perfect tense.

proven sphinx
vernal ermine
proven sphinx
vernal ermine
proven sphinx
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..., weil er sich (nicht) mit Seife gewaschen hat.

vernal ermine
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@proven sphinx Vielen Dank

proven sphinx
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But you get used to it after a while.

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It just takes some practice.

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Gern geschehen!

vernal ermine
proven sphinx
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Literally means "gladly happened".

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geschehen = passieren

vernal ermine
final pond
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Sagt jemand das wirklich

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Ich habe das Gefühl alle sagen „Gerne“

long whale
final pond
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There is something I don’t like about “Gern geschehen”

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Too long

long whale
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What, IRL? Or in chat on discord?

final pond
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IRL

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Maybe people in Switzerland are just impolite

long whale
fervent kernel
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what would the literal translation of '' Das Paket hat gebracht werden müssen'' be?

long whale
fervent kernel
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i see i see

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thank you prayge

plush pelican
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This is from the game Baldur's Gate 3.

As I understand it, Ersatzinfinitiv in Standarddeutsch would be, "dass du einen Welpen hast entwischen lassen."

I once read a thing online, though, which said that in regional dialects, the Ersatzinfinitiv comes in several different orders. Is this one of those non-standard dialectical orders for the Ersatzinfinitiv?

timber yacht
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Bayerische Übersetzer? 😄 In my head I immediately heard a Bavarian voice - or perhaps Austrian. "hosst loss'n"

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(krakeliger)

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Liebes Tagebuch. Ich habe heute viel gelernt, weil ich viele Deutsche Grammatik Videos gesehen habe. Ich habe heute über Konjunktion gelernt. Ich habe auch gelernt, wie man Modalverben verwendet. Ich will heute Abend früh schlafen, weil ich einen Fahrkurs um 8 Uhr habe.

Ist meine Grammatik korrekt?

tribal gust
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hello guys , ich habe ein frage

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how we can use dativ in sentences if anyone can help me with that

plush pelican
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Is Bavarian often used in German translations where in English it would've been a Scottish accent?

plush pelican
# tribal gust how we can use dativ in sentences if anyone can help me with that

Was ist Dativ? How do you explain the German dative case and which German verbs use dative and why? In this video you will hopefully find answers to the German problem Dativ.
It's the third case in German grammar and probably also the third one you come across when learning German. Dative is used after specific verbs and prepositions. About pre...

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Check out the whole playlist

plush pelican
timber yacht
plush pelican
timber yacht
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I'm not an expert on this topic. It's definitely used in Bavarian dialect(s).

plush pelican
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Are you from Bavaria?

timber yacht
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Baltic Coast, opposite direction^^

plush pelican
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I see 😄

long whale
plush pelican
velvet venture
plush pelican
velvet venture
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I don’t know. I would just say colloquially

plush pelican
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Also which part of Germany are you from?

velvet venture
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I personally wouldn’t say that, but some people do. Besides, “entwischen lassen hast” is also correct, however not common in everyday speech.

I live close to Frankfurt am Main.

plush pelican
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Besides, “entwischen lassen hast” is also correct

Is it? I thought Standarddeutsch only recognized the Ersatzinfinitiv order "hast entwischen lassen"?

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I've also heard of not using the Ersatzinfinitiv and then doing like, "entwischen gelassen hast"

velvet venture
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“lassen” is still an Ersatzinfinitiv here, and yes, both variations are standard language. The finite verb can come first or last place

timber yacht
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I've just looked up Ersatzinfinitiv https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersatzinfinitiv
Its use is really widespread.
it was explicitely the word order of hast lassen that reminded me of the Bavarian dialect

Der Ersatzinfinitiv (lateinisch infinitivus pro participio) ist ein Phänomen der deutschen Grammatik: In bestimmten Fällen ersetzt ein Infinitiv das Partizip Perfekt.
Nach den Grundregeln der Flexion des Verbs werden Perfekt und Plusquamperfekt mit haben bzw. sein und dem Partizip Perfekt gebildet. Geht aber dem Partizip eine Infinitivkonstrukti...

velvet venture
plush pelican
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ah, apparently this is specific to "lassen"?

velvet venture
plush pelican
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Do that sentence, but instead of "lassen", "können"

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Could you do "entwischen können hast"?

velvet venture
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Yes, but “entwischen konntest” is almost exclusively used in such cases

plush pelican
velvet venture
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Hm. Idk. Maybe using the p.p. “gelassen” is also fine and standard language

plush pelican
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They seem to be saying both your "kommen lassen haben" and "kommen gelassen haben" are debated as to whether that's Standarddeutsch or not, right?

velvet venture
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Yes

plush pelican
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so some would argue yes, some no

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and Duden lists all 3, 😄

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so I guess Duden is in the "yes" camp

velvet venture
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The Duden has as a guiding principle to be descriptive, whether it always sticks to it is a different question.

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If I am talking with my german friend about something, and I am surprised that he's never heard of something I just said, which sentence is correct if I want to say "You've never heard of that"? 1. Hast du es nie gehort? 2. Hast du noch nie davon gehört?

brittle folio
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what's the word for draw (as in draw a picture)

verbal girder
brittle folio
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i dont trust it

brittle folio
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ty

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also im bookmarking that site now

vernal ermine
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What's the difference between hören and gehören

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?

solid zealot
calm kernel
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Können wir Genitiv umgangssprachlich umgekehrt nutzen?

Er hat meiner Mutter einen guten Freund eingeladen.

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normalerweise ist's einen guten Freund meiner Mutter

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es hört sich sehr komisch an, aber ich bin mir sehr sicher, dass ich so ein Satzbau gesehen habe

vernal ermine
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But I have a doubt why there is gehort for perfect tense for both words

solid zealot
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Use umlauts o ö, its gehört

wouldnt it be obvious from the sentence

long whale
long whale
solid zealot
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Im getting Susana's approval peepohappy2

vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
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For me , it depends on the observation of the person, and if we use that sentence in a low voice, it doesn't become rude.

vernal ermine
long whale
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@vernal ermine It took me a while, but I did manage to come up with a sentence where "gehört" might mean both/either "heard" and/or "belonged". However, don't forgt: IRL, there is still context.

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Das Lied/Die CD (Akkusativ, although you can't see it) hat Tom (Nominativ, subject) gehört = Tom listened to this song/CD

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vs.

vernal ermine
long whale
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Das Lied/Die CD (Nominativ) hat Tom (Dativ) gehört = The song/CD belonged to Tom

long whale
vernal ermine
vernal ermine
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After vs?

long whale
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^

vernal ermine
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What you want to say after vs

long whale
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^^

vernal ermine
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Oh yes I got it

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But they both have same sentence structure

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?

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What would be right

vernal ermine
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Ok it depends on the context

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Vielen Dank @long whale

fervent kernel
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Double meaning is a part of every language I think

solid zealot
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I speak 3 and it happens in all 3

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Also in korean so 4/4

long whale
# vernal ermine Ok it depends on the context

As I said, it took me a while to come up with this sentence. Because it has "Tom" which doesn't show the case. And if the possession/thing which was heard is a masc. noun, it would also show the case. -> No more double meaning. 🤷

long whale
# calm kernel if you say so

Well... you can use that sentence (although it would be pretty uncommon). But it would mean "He invited a good friend for my mother/for my mother's sake" ("meiner Mutter" being Dativ in that case).

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The dialect construction you were thinking of would be "Er hat meiner Mutter ihren guten Freund eingeladen", or, to give a different example "Das ist meiner Mutter ihr Auto", resp. "Das ist meinem Vater sein Haus". And that's not just colloquial, it's strictly dialect. -> In other parts of Germany, this will make people go 👀

vernal ermine
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What we will tell cooking vessels in German.

vernal ermine
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Is it Kochgefäße?

solid zealot
vernal ermine
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I have used those translation and then only I ask these questions

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In dictionary there is no match for those words

solid zealot
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Is it any different than kitchenware

vernal ermine
solid zealot
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Mine aint too

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Why use Englisch<->German then??

vernal ermine
solid zealot
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Then use your native language dictionary

vernal ermine
solid zealot
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Irrelevant

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If you dont wanna listen,I cant help you

vernal ermine
icy flax
vernal ermine
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@solid zealot So is it good to say, I wash my kitchenware.

calm kernel
outer ocean
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shouldnt the time be first and location second?

hushed dawn
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Wird es bevorzugt, ein "Konjunktiv 2" mit "als ob" und "als wenn" zu benutzen ?

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Auch, sind "als ob" und "als wenn" wirklich austauchbar ?

dry apex
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Can someone explain to me "egal"? And this sentence too
Ist mir egal wo wir him gehen

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What's the subject?

red palm
dry apex
red palm
red palm
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Wir.
I think what you posted is a shortened version, the longer being "Es ist mir egal, wo wir gehen."
As in "It's all the same to me, where WE go."

dry apex
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Alright alright

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Danke :)

long whale
outer ocean
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herr antrim destroyed

long whale
# dry apex What's the subject of the sentence tho?

The subject was omitted in the 1st part (which frequently happens but only in colloquial spoken German (!), if the subject happens to be es/das or ich): [Es] ist mir egal, wo wir hingehen. es = subject in main clause; wir = subject in relative clause.

dry apex
fervent kernel
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can one add ''es'' in: ''bitte hör (es) auf, mit mir zu sprechen''?

long whale
fervent kernel
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aah i see, thank you prayge

long whale
long whale
vernal ermine
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So reflexive pronomen should be used compulsorily only with reflexive verb? @long whale

long whale
vernal ermine
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Please give an example where ordinary verb is used with a reflexive pronomen and also a sentence where other verb cannot be used with a reflexive pronomen.

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@long whale

long whale
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I think you can not (never?) use a reflexive when a verb is intransitive: Der Lärm hört sich auf. Der Film endet sich.

vernal ermine
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@long whale how snacks is countable?

long whale
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-> If a noun has a working, usable plural, it's called "countable". If it doesn't, it's called "uncountable".

vernal ermine
vernal ermine
long whale
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der Snack, die Snacks is different from those.

vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
vernal ermine
long whale
vernal ermine
long whale
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But sure, if for you, a snack can consist of an apple, a banana and some chocolate - fine.

vernal ermine
long whale
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You see, "countable" and "uncountable" is a grammar characteristic of a noun. Like... the word "money" is also uncountable, since you can't say you have 3 moneys.

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@vernal ermine

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In a simple way

long whale
# vernal ermine In a simple way

Well, if you know it's about grammar, then you know it has nothing to do with meaning. Like... in some countries, a sandwich is a meal. In others, a meal is only a meal if it consists of a plate full of meat, vegetables and potatoes/pasta/rice. Still, the word "meal" is countable, since it has a plural: 1 meal, 2 meals. Same with 1 snack, 2 snacks.

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What exactly constitutes a snack is up to you - how hungry you are, what kind of country you live in.