questions-2

[whole portal]

I did one and it was pretty fine but if it's not explicitely stated I see how it might be dropped or just seen as a nee-derivative

You hear the naa a lot on movies and series with southern dialects (think Christian Tramitz) but I haven't been there so much to confirm anything

[undone verge]

is it pronounced like 'na' or different?

[whole portal]

the a is long

[misty saddle]

I live in BW and hear/say nei most, but lots of other things too. to me nö is a bit different in meaning, sometimes at least.

[undone verge]

I hate to say it but I don't know what a long a is. Comparison word?

[misty saddle]

nahm

[whole portal]

trying to find an occurence of the naa rn

The thing is tho

This is such an incredibly versatile particle that you'll find everything from na to naaah depending on the situation

[fervent kernel]

"Nö nööööö"

[whole portal]

@undone verge https://youtu.be/fhVlNin5bYY?t=361

[undone verge]

huh

[whole portal]

I went out to find the most southern thing I can think of

Meister Eder

He says naa a few times at the timestamp

[fervent kernel]

Gibt es in Bezug auf Bedeutung einen Unterschied zwischen diesen Präpositionen?

Ich überprüfe es auf der Webseite
Ich überprüfe es über der Webseite

[whole portal]

Also wenn, dann über die Website.

Aber man würde wahrscheinlich eher auf oder vielleicht mit verwenden.

[fervent kernel]

Achso, ja

Ich habe die Präposition wie "durch" gedacht

[whole portal]

Durch geht auch irgendwie, ja.

mithilfe der ginge auch

[formal meadow]

Hallo. I am having some trouble with word order. Can someone explain to me why the second highlighted portion of the sentence is in this order?
"Wir haben herausgefunden, dass nicht alles ausverkauft ist."

[long whale]

dass introduces a subordinate clause, i.e. the finite/conjugated verb gets shifted to the very end of the clause.

As to the position of "nicht", it's very similar to English here, I believe: "We found out [that] everything hasn't been sold out" doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it? -> "We found out [that] not everything has been sold out" works a lot better - right?

[formal meadow]

Oh I see, thank you. The position "nicht" and "ist" were confusing me.

[waxen fulcrum]

Hallo. Kannst du mir sagen, ob die Relativpronomen richtig sind?

Mein bester Freund ist ein Mensch, AUF DEM ich hundertprozentig vertrauen kann und DER immer versucht, mir zu helfen, auch in der mich oft zum Lachen Schule. Außerdem hat er so eine Art, DIE mich oft zum Lachen bringt. Er erzählt oft Geschichten, DIE wirklich witzig sind.

[delicate tiger]

"...ein Mensch, AUF DEM ich hundertprozentig vertrauen kann..."

oder: "... auf den ich mich verlassen kann..."

[noble fractal]

Hallo Leute konnten Sie mir sagen was beduetet ^ Treten*

verb

[rare jetty]

to kick

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

Er tritt das Mädchen

Ich trete auf das Holz

[charred harbor]

You’re taking linguistic Beispiele to a whole new level

[sleek pulsar]

Gutes Beispiel lol ich mag es sehr

[torpid basin]

Ich helfe ihr bei den Hausaufgaben

Nicht mit ja?

Kann ich "mit" benutzen?

[long whale]

I like the version with "bei" a lot better. But I guess you'll also hear "mit". ;)

[torpid basin]

Danke schön susana

[calm kernel]

Die Arbeitswelt unterliegt ständigem Wandel, sei es durch technologische Fortschritte, veränderte Markttrends oder neue Arbeitsmethoden.

what is going on with this "sei es..." part? i know that it's konj 1 but, what is this subject called?

[hidden perch]

The english equivalent would be "be it...", I think.

[calm kernel]

🧐 there is such a thing? i didn't know

im not a native

[hidden perch]

It's similar to "wäre", but without the conditional uncertainty, if you can say it like that.

[calm kernel]

but the sentence would still work without "sei es" part right? it would be less fancy (?)

[long whale]

Well... you'd need something, e.g. "zum Beispiel" or "etwa"

[hidden perch]

Typically with "sei es.." you'll see a listing of possibilities, that are either negligible for the topic at hand or interchangable.

[long whale]

The "sei es" indicates possibilities, you see?

[calm kernel]

i see ty

are there any other uses that i should know?

[hidden perch]

I can only think of this sort of listing or another construct like "So sei es."

Which would mean "So be it."

[long whale]

It's also used in maths and phyics. See here under In der Fachsprache: https://hbross.de/de-b1-05610-der-konjunktiv-1/

[mystic dirge]

How do I say 'he is my friend' if I don't want it accidentally coming across like I'm saying boyfriend?

"Er Ist EIN Freund?"

[undone verge]

Ein Freund von mir

[charred harbor]

Einer meiner vielen Freunde

[mystic dirge]

Thank youuu

[median timber]

When you want to tell sb to do sth, you remove the ending of Infinitv (for 2nd person singular). For example Halten -> Halt.
Then why did I come across a sentence like this: "Antworte mir!"?

Shouldn't it be antwort mir?

Also is this sentence correct: Ich stimme euch zu.
I agree with them.

[long whale]

Do not post the same question in more than one channel, please.

[plush pelican]

You don't just remove the ending; sometimes you add an -e

and a number of words seem to list the imperative both with and without the added -e...

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Imperative/Imperativ.html

"du": The imperative form of the informal second-person singular does not normally include the pronoun "du". In the case of weak verbs, the form is the stem. Usually you have the option of adding an "-e":

Tu das nicht! Tue das nicht! Don't do that!
Sag es lauter! Sage es lauter! Say it louder!

If the stem ends in -d, -t, -ig, or in -m or -n preceded by certain consonants (not -l- or -r-), you must add an -e (Note: with the exception of -ig, these are the same verbs that insert an -e- before adding the singular endings for "du" or "er/sie/es" [e.g. du findest, sie badet, es regnet]):

Arbeite nicht so viel! Don't work so much!
Binde dem Kind die Schuhe zu! Tie the kid's shoes!
Atme langsam! Breathe slowly!
Antworte auf die Frage! Answer the question!

[plush pelican]

euch would be for "ihr". "ihr" is y'all (you, plural, informal), not them

https://www.germanveryeasy.com/pronouns#personal-pronouns

[median timber]

ah, yes. My bad

[median timber]

Thanks a lot!

[wanton zodiac]

Hello guys, I have trouble with the verb legen and its prefixes. I want to say: "I'm gonna lay the bags on the floor". Which legen should I choose? Anlegen, ablegen, herauslegen, herumlegen? I'm pretty sure I've heard people used all of them when they laid something on the ground, except for anlegen. I heard someone said: "Du kannst die Tüten dranstellen", if I'm not mistaken, so I just assumed you can also use anlegen. Do all those legens mean the same?

[regal heath]

In this case you wanna say: "Ich lege die Tüten auf den Boden"

or "Ich werde die Tüten auf den Boden legen"

[long whale]

No, they don't all mean the same. Maybe check out https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Wortbildung/Separables.html On the left, you can click on each of the separable prefixes. ;)

[wanton zodiac]

This page is actually really helpful

Thanks

[split birch]

What is wrong with Bielefeld? @dire slate

[tranquil flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=XvHcZciihJw&feature=youtu.be

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld-Verschwörung

On April Fools' Day in 1999, five years after the myth started to spread, the city council released a press statement titled Bielefeld gibt es doch! (Bielefeld does exist!). 😆

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_conspiracy

[split birch]

Omg I’m moving there

[tranquil flower]

Not possible. You have been scammed.

[split birch]

What should I do then? 😭

[dire slate]

I dont know there is not a place like that

[kindred idol]

What does

Hau’n mean?

And why is it seperate

Does it just mean Hauen

[dire slate]

Yes I thing the same she got scammed

[long whale]

It might be a form with obsolete spelling, or it might be a colloquially shortened imperative: Hau ihn! Without context, we can't know.

[limpid lion]

Can we use 'wie' and 'was' both for "what" ?

[long whale]

Not interchangeably, no. But yes, in some questions, German uses "wie", while English uses "what".

[limpid lion]

Thx a lot!

[half lynx]

Hallo, Ich bin Chanakya, Ich komme aus India, Wie geht's?

[hushed dawn]

Guten Tag alle,

ist es richtig "er hat die Eigenschaften von Klugheit, Personlichkeit, etc.." zu sagen ??

[undone verge]

Persönlichkeit

und jaaaa, kann man sagen. Aber es ist natürlich etwas komisch zu sagen, dass jemand "die Eigenschaft von Persönlichkeit" hat

Ich würde einfach sagen: "Er ist klug und hat eine (gute/einzigartige/was auch immer) Persönlichkeit"

[hushed dawn]

Vielen Dank 🙂

[median timber]

Er macht viermal die Woche Sport.
Sie geht dreimal in der Woche schwimmen.
Why in on sentence there's 'die Woche' and in the other there's 'in der Woche'?

[delicate tiger]

Both are exchangeable

[long whale]

There's no difference in meaning. It's like 3 times per week vs. 3 times a week.

[median timber]

oh, okay thank you :D

There's a sentence:
'I gladly ride a bike and play guitar. And what do you like doing in free time?'

My book, says the correct answer is 'Ich fahre gern Rad und spiele Gitarre. Und was machst du gern in deiner Freizeit'

I translated it to 'Ich fahre Rad gerne und ich spiele Gitarre. Und was magst du in deiner Freizet machen?'

Is my sentence correct? Why not?

[long whale]

No, it isn't. a) "gern[e]" is in the wrong place b) when referring to activities/verbs, we use gern + verb. "mögen" is used with nouns: Ich mag Actionfilme.

[hushed dawn]

Was ist der unterschied zwischen die Arbeitsstelle und der Job ?

[long whale]

der Job is more colloquial, and it might refer to a student working a few hours a week at a café or sth.

[median timber]

Thank you

[narrow pier]

Hallo liebe Leute,

Was ist der Unterschied zwichen diese Wörter ( lernen, erlernwn und verlernen )

Lernen ist so benutzt -> Ich lerne jetzt Deutsch

Erlernen - ich weiß nicht

Vom DWDS- für verlernen --> er hat das Lachen verlernt

Was ist denn der Unterschied

( I wanted to transtlate this sentence, ---> I must learn a skill or a profession to make money and then trip to germany )

Deepl used verlernen for this one?

[long whale]

IMO, you won't need erlernen, which is mostly used in very formal work-related text (like references) to say you learnt something to full extent (einen Beruf erlernen ~ to learn/master a profession). verlernen is what happens when you don't use/practice something for a long time. Say, you learnt a language 10 or 20 years ago to level B2. So, at that time, you were pretty fluent. After not practicing it in any way for such a long time, you won't be able to speak it anymore -> Du hast die Sprache verlernt.

[narrow pier]

So verlernt is like you forgot it, the skill did rust

Thank you very much @long whale

[sleek pulsar]

Ich habe eine Frage, wann sollte man Dativ anstatt Genitiv benutzen? Ich weiß, dass Genitiv manchmal seltsam klingt, also ich würde gerne wissen, welche Kontext passt für Dativ anstatt/über Genitiv

Ich kann leider nicht ein gutes Beispiel nennen

[long whale]

When you have a noun in plural without any article whatsoever, Genitiv doesn't get "marked" -> you use Dativ plural, i.e. you add an -n

Let's say you want to say "Thanks to researchers, many illnesses have disappeared". Now, "dank" requires Genitiv. But dank Forscher doesn't work -> Dank Forschern sind viele Krankheiten verschwunden.

[sleek pulsar]

Ah ok

That's something I'm gonna have to be aware of/get used to when I'm learning cause it sounds weird to me for some reason lol

Danke schön

[plush pelican]

There's a podcast called "Verbrechen für Weicheier."

In the word "Weichei", is the Ei referring to eggs, or testicles?

[charred harbor]

I've just done some quick research and seemingly both interpretations are valid here

The word “egg” may be interpreted in the literal sense comparing hartgesotten and English hard-boiled, soft-boiled. It may also be interpreted in the sense “testicle” comparing French couille molle.

Great question, I have to say. Today I learned

[plush pelican]

Again what learned!

[proven sphinx]

"Weichei" just means "pansy", "wimp" or "coward".

[charred harbor]

Ich glaub er wusste das schon - er wollte nur wissen welche Bedeutung das "Ei" hat in diesem Kontext

(Im Kontext des Wortes, meine ich)

[slim mirage]

Is verb mogen often used as " would you like " or " do you wish to "? I have been hearing something like "magst du versuchen" but Im not sure if I hear it correctly, if so does mogen go as equivalent of would you like to?

[long whale]

It's mögen (the dots are not just ornamental, they make it a totally different letter. If you can't type it, insert an extra E: mögen/moegen)

And the rule is: for "I like" use mögen + noun. With a verb, use "gern". Ich mag Schokolade = I like chocolate. For "Would you like...?" use "möchten" (technically a form of "mögen": Möchtest du Schokolade? = Would you like [some] chocolate?

[carmine scaffold]

was gehen schprechen

[long whale]

Please read #getting-started

[kindred idol]

What does it mean in context in Cro’s einmal um die welt song lyrics?

2nd verse

[unique dune]

its a shortened version of hauen, in this context its part of "abhauen"

[gusty silo]

i think writing apostrophes that don't actually impact pronunciation is an obsession of songwriters and poets that's continued from a time when a pronunciation with a clear e was still more prevalent? that's my guess as to why this is still relatively often done in writing lyrics even when i think the supposed abbreviated form is basically identical to normal pronunciation

(not to say that shortened forms that do sound different and may warrant an apostrophe don't exist, but i don't think it's the case here)

[plush pelican]

doesn't "hauen" have 2 syllables? so removing the E would shorten it to 1, no?

[gusty silo]

yes so the theory, but a one-syllable pronounciation is also very common anyway and not usually picked up on by germans

so i think it's a relatively redundant apostrophe as the pronuncation it's going for is a normal reading of that spelling anyway

[plush pelican]

Apparently some languages don't do this thing where you take "shortcuts" with word pronunciations xD

We take shortcuts in English too as well, right?

[gusty silo]

oh i mean there's a mechanism here

[gusty silo]

what do you mean? shortening things in speech compared to the pronunciation the spelling implies or that is used in formal situation or slow speaking? yes

[plush pelican]

yes, exactly

ich hab statt ich habe, 'nen statt einen

or even just "nn"

[gusty silo]

like, i would say "what do you mean" there as "wot dju mean" if you get what i'm implying with that spelling

[plush pelican]

that would sound Black, actually 🤔

[gusty silo]

i speak something that's oriented at british english, for what it's worth

[gusty silo]

https://voca.ro/101K7kKRO7BF
fwiw, here's me saying abhauen a few times, have fun trying to identify some instances as three syllables long abhauen and others as two syllables long abhau'n, i can't really
at the end is how i say "what do you mean" just for the sake of that other part of the conversation

i can't really
(i can listen closely and just say "oh this is like this, that is like that" based on how short it sounds, but i don't consciously differentiate them in speaking or normally in listening)

[plush pelican]

man, that "what do you mean" sounds very unclear

like you're slurring your words

[gusty silo]

mhm

well i am, in effect

[plush pelican]

no I mean, it sounds like you're drunk, not just an accent

[gusty silo]

ah

[plush pelican]

we have more fluid speech than German, but not that fluid

[gusty silo]

i know i contract i have to i've sometimes when not used as an auxilliary too, but that i know is definitely "just" a british thing

[plush pelican]

example?

"I've an apple" or something?

[gusty silo]

yep

[plush pelican]

that's fine

[gusty silo]

i see

[plush pelican]

tbf, I am somewhat exposed to Britishisms

[long whale]

I'd like to agree with you here 100% - except there's this thing called Bühnendeutsch (for poems, in case there's going to be a public recital) and also https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aussprache_der_deutschen_Sprache#Deutsche_Aussprache_im_klassischen_Gesang for singing. ;)

[gusty silo]

true (but like who except for maybe Max Raabe makes popular music singing like that?) though my main point is that it's not different from how a reader will read it anyway

if you write for Bühnendeutsch go indicate it, sure

[real trench]

wie gemeinsam sind Wörter mit einem Präfix oder Suffix im Deutschen?

und, sollte ich hier "gemeinsam" oder "häufig" verwenden?

[swift sand]

häufig :) Gemeinsam bedeutet "to have smth in common"

[swift sand]

Ich würde sehr häufig sagen.

Deutlich => Undeutlich => Deutlichkeit => Undeutlichkeit

[real trench]

viel dank 🙏

[swift sand]

Gerne :)

[keen plaza]

What does "Studienvorbereiten" mean in (Zulassung zum Studienvorbereitenden Sprachkurs Deutsch)? Is it related to higher studies as in a college or University or just simply 'studying' the language course?

[long whale]

Preparation for university.

It's a language course which is supposed to prepare you for attending a German university.

[hushed dawn]

Ist "Fastfood" ein richtiger Weg zu sagen ?

[rare jetty]

Ja

[proven sphinx]

Der Duden sagt, dass sowohl "Fastfood" als auch "Fast Food" richtig sind, empfiehlt aber "Fast Food" als Schreibweise. 🤷‍♂️

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Fast_Food

[fervent kernel]

Frage, kann man Welche am Anfang eines Satzes schreiben, der kein Fragesatz ist?

Beispiel: Welche Methoden man wählt ist von A und B abhängig

[proven sphinx]

Ja, sicher.

[fervent kernel]

Ok danke 👍👍

[proven sphinx]

Aber eigentlich kommt da ein Komma nach "wählt".

[fervent kernel]

Klingt irgendwie falsch deswegen hab ich gefragt

Wollte mal nur sicher gehen 😂

[fervent kernel]

Ok 👍

[proven sphinx]

Man kann den Nebensatz eigentlich immer voranstellen.

Vergiss dann einfach nicht, dass das Verb im Hauptsatz dann an erster Stelle kommen muss, also gerade nach dem Komma.

[fervent kernel]

Super! Danke 🙏

[untold flame]

kann ich "keine Aufnahmeprüfung wird gebraucht, wenn man in eine Fachschule gehen wollte" sagen

[long whale]

No. The tenses are not in accordance with each other.

[untold flame]

i meant the second sentence as in konjunktiv präsens

i mean

konjunktiv präteritum

is that still not correct?

[long whale]

Yes, doesn't work.

[untold flame]

how should i form the sentence then

[long whale]

Use the same tense in both clauses.

[untold flame]

"wenn man in eine Fachschule gehen will"?

yay danke sehr

[deep beacon]

Hallo

Könnt ihr mir helfen?

[unique dune]

wenn du ne frage hast stell sie einfach

[noble stone]

Ive made a rough translation on a topic that I like, I took the words I knew and used them but if I found a new word I would just google translate it.
There probably is a bunch of grammar errors and I ask kindly for someone to correct my grammar mistakes

[unique dune]

was ist das wort nach „wichtigste“ im ersten satz?

[long whale]

getting crick in neck Your fist sentence seems to be missing a verb. You could just type it and copy it into deepl write - it'll automatically correct your text. ;)

[long whale]

Art - very fancy A ;)

[unique dune]

ah dachte ich mir aber ich konnte das a nicht entziffern

[noble stone]

Oh lol I didn't know that, thx

[deep beacon]

Hallo

Kann ich mit euch kennlernen?

[rare jetty]

#general #beginner-german or #1065443550004781067

[rancid valley]

can someone help me with the word "darstellung" in this sentence: Nach der Einführung in die Darstellung des Themas bei bekannten Malern un Malerinnen werden Sie selbst kreativ."

does it mean presentation or display or something like that?

[unique dune]

presentation/interpretation in this case

the way the artists presented the topic in their work basically

[rancid valley]

thank you 😇

[brave flint]

Hab diesen hier im Anime gesehen, verstehe ihn aber nicht

Was bedeutet hier „hinter ... {Kuratake} ... her“ ?

[undone verge]

they're chasing Kuratake

[brave flint]

Ich habe gedacht, dass hinterher nur ein Wort ist?

[undone verge]

I unfortunately cannot explain this

[long whale]

The verb is "hinter jdm her sein" ;)

[brave flint]

Ach so! Vielen Dank 🙂

[plucky furnace]

What is this dialect?

F i can’t post image

[rare jetty]

You have the limited permission Role

Try later or describe what you see on the picture

[icy flax]

can u post now? I'm highly intrigued

[rare jetty]

https://discord.com/channels/221708975698083841/1115659896013205576

[hushed dawn]

ist "Unbefristet" benutzt nur für Zeit ?

[past anchor]

Ja.

[hushed dawn]

Den habe ich sofort unterschreiben, denn ich hatte mich in dem Familienunternehmen vom ersten Tag an sehr wohl gefühlt.

Ich möchte fragen, warum gibt es (also was ist die Bedeutung) "an" ?

[long whale]

It would remain untranslated: vom ersten Tag an = from the 1st day [onwards]

Spelling: unterschrieben (Partizip II), not unterschreiben

[calm kernel]

Eines sollte der Verbraucher nicht hoffen, sagt Martin Rücker von der Vereinigung Foodwatch.
Could someone explain the use of "eines" here? Why is it genitiv?

[long whale]

The sentence isn't complete. Eines = one thing. Here's the relevant explanation: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/AdjectivalNouns/AdjectivalNouns.html ;)

Btw, it's Akkusativ.l

[calm kernel]

sorry ich dachte der Rest war irrelevant

"Eines sollte der Verbraucher nicht hoffen, sagt Martin Rücker von der Vereinigung Foodwatch: "Es ist utopisch zu glauben, der Kunde könne im Supermarkt erkennen, welche Produkte belastet sind und welche nicht."

der vollständige Satz

[long whale]

*der vollständige Satz - Yes, that is one thing the consumer musn't hope for: that they can see which products contain dangerous substances. ;)

[calm kernel]

actually i know the nominalisiertung thing it being genitiv confuses me

[calm kernel]

could i also say einen since hoffen requieres akk?

[long whale]

Well... what would it refer to?

Bäckst du bald wieder Kuchen, Susana? - Ich habe gerade einen gebacken.

[calm kernel]

oh waittt i see

eines refers to the sentence with ""

i think i get it ty

[ruby ferry]

hi! i am trying to say to someone that I am working between 2 schools, so i want to say 'i am shared between x and y', would ich bin zwischen x und y aufgeteilt be the right phrasing? or is that more for things rather than people

[long whale]

It... kind of works, but yes, it's a little funny, you being shared. -> I think I'd rather say "I share my time between X and Y"

[ruby ferry]

yeah that makes sense! thanks so much again susana !! :)

[hushed dawn]

Die Generation Z ist die erste Generation, die mit den digitalen Technologien groß geworden ist.

kann ich stattdesen ,,groß geworden'' ist sagen gewachsen ist ?

[plush pelican]

I think maybe aufgewachsen?

[hushed dawn]

Ja ich habe das gemeint 😁

[heavy condor]

is it Ich lerne Deutsch zusammen mit meinen Freunden. or Ich lerne zusammen mit meinen Freunden Deutsch. idk where the deutsch is supposed to be

[calm kernel]

afaik both works and the second one works even better

[heavy condor]

ty

[civic apex]

Hallo, could someone tell me how to use "Seit" und "Bis"? Ich finde es schwerig.

[icy flax]

Sicherlich!
seit means "since when" and requires Dativ.
bis mean "until when" and requires Akkusativ.

Seit dem letzten Dezember lerne ich Deutsch.
Ich lerne bis nächsten Januar Deutsch noch aktiv.

You will more often than bis see bis zu when talking about a future time too. The zu calls a Dativ case then.

Ich lerne bis zum nächsten Januar Deutsch noch aktiv.

[sleek marlin]

How do you use the verb "wirken"? Google defintion says something along the lines of working, but my German textbook uses it as "to appear" in this context: "Denn Sie wirken unzuverlaessig, falls Sie Ihre Aufgaben dann doch nicht schaffen". And how does adding the "sich" change it?

[wise pendant]

The word has multiple meanings and thus contexts it can be used in, to mean very different things.

I'm not sure where you want to add a "sich"

[wise pendant]

It's either "bis zum nächsten Jahr" or "bis nächsten Januar" Not "bis den nächsten Januar"

[whole portal]

auswirken maybe?

[hushed dawn]

Wie unterschieden sich 'Die Angestellte' und Mitarbeiter' ?

[icy flax]

Äh?! Wer hat vom Jahr gesprochen? ||jks, hab verstanden, was du meinst||

[heavy ice]

The Employee, The Coworker

[outer maple]

How do u say "im really harsh on myself" in german?
Ich bin sehr hart zu mir selbst?

[regal heath]

ye

[icy flax]

Ja! Es gibt sogar ein schönes Lied vom Andreas Bourani wo er singt ||vielleicht trifft der Liedtext deinem Herzen im günstigen Moment||:

"Sei nicht so hart zu dir selbst, es ist ok wenn du fällst, auch wenn alles zerbricht, es geht weiter für dich" https://youtu.be/WprmdlbbgGo?t=139

[outer maple]

Dankee :D

[median timber]

Lyrics of a song go 'Gib mir die Hand'. Could it be 'Gib mir deine Hand' or is it just in English?

[plush pelican]

https://germanwithlaura.com/dative-case/

[median timber]

Thank you very much for doing the research for my lazy self :D

[sleek bone]

"Aber nicht so, wie man es sich vorgestellt hat"

Wie kann ich das sagen?

[sleek bone]

Denke ich das ist auch richtig, aber mehr persönlich.

Es gibt auch einen Song names "Gib mir deine Hand" von Helene Fischer

[brave flint]

Was ist hier besser: haben oder hatten?

Seitdem Max Deutsch gelernt hat, (hat/hatte) er mehr Berufschancen.

[south zenith]

ich glaube hat passt besser

obwohl wir auf Englisch 'he had more job opportunities' sagen, klingt es mir mit 'hatte' als hätte er früher Chancen gehabt aber jetzt nicht mehr

[brave flint]

danke! 🙂

[dense obsidian]

Kommt drauf an, was du sagen möchtest. Wenn er immer noch mehr Berufsschancen hat, dann "hat". Wenn er die Chancen nicht mehr hat, dann "hatte".

[hushed dawn]

Hallo, Können jemand erklärt was '' immer viel zu viel " bedeutet ?

[steel patrol]

Always way too much?

[hushed dawn]

Was zusätzliche Information macht "zwar" in "zwar aber" ? Also ich kann nur aber benutzt.

[raw yew]

Hi. What should be the correct sequence of this sentence and why? (Keep subject at the start)
von Herzen . ich . möchte . mich . für Ihr Interesse . bedanken . schon jetzt .

[steel patrol]

"zwar... aber..." is used to state a positive attribute of sth and a negative (or vice versa), such as:
"Dieses Haus ist zwar günstig, aber es ist viel zu klein für unsere Familie"

[long whale]

The meaning is like "even though" (as opposed to "but")

[plush pelican]

"zwar...aber" is meant to highlight a limitation. The first clause makes a statement, but it is limited by what's said in the second clause. This is subtly different than just "aber", which merely shows a contrast between the two statements.

In English, I think this is mostly done by your tone of voice;

"Du kannst zwar hier 300 km/h fahren, aber du wirst verhaftet werden."

You can drive 300 km/h here, but you'll be arrested. (So that's probably not a good idea.)

[hushed dawn]

Ich bedanke Ihnen allen viel.

[calm kernel]

Was haben "chronisch Glückliche", das ihren weniger zufriedenen Zeitgenossen fehlt?

I didn't understand why we use "das" but not "dass" here. Could someone explain please?

[unique dune]

because its a relativpronomen

refering to "Was"

whats the faq called

faq das dass

[stoic mauve]

FAQ not found. Try >explain all.

[unique dune]

ok thanks

https://yourdailygerman.com/difference-dass-das/

[thin elbow]

cool site

[wanton shard]

Hi, am I using deshalb/weshalb correctly?
Der kleine Junge hatte lange Haare, weshalb ihn viele für ein Mädchen hielten.
Der kleine Junge hatte lange Haare, deshalb halten ihn viele für ein Mädchen.

[neat badge]

ik ur weshalb example is correct but not sure abt the second does look right to me tho but not sure

[unique dune]

hielten* but yes

[neat badge]

OMG i finally answered someone with a correct answer omg omg

[wanton shard]

thanks!

[unique dune]

C level role when?

[neat badge]

ikrrr soon soon

[neat badge]

pov me when i got it right

https://tenor.com/view/siuu-gif-23749474

[unique dune]

[plush pelican]

There's nothing worse than feeling like you should know something already and not #FeelsBadMan

[unique dune]

if only u guys could see my google searches before correcting someone

[plush pelican]

I mean, you're a native speaker, right? You never had to learn the grammar explicitly. I similarly would be bad at answering questions on English grammar.

[neat badge]

omg samee

[neat badge]

fr tho i rage

[wanton shard]

haha i actually google the stuff myself but I want to ask native speaker anyway in case I misunderstood because "they know how it sounds". And you guys google that again!? 😅

[unique dune]

i mean maybe thats just me but sometimes a sentence sounds correct and then i overthink it and wonder if it actually isnt

[lament pecan]

I noticed I did pretty well in the B1 Hören exercises from practice tests. Almost no mistakes. Yet I still didn't understand a lot of the words that were being said. I did catch the key sentences and words that let me solve the exercise, but a lot of the filler was incomprehensible to my ears.
Is this normal? Am I expected to understand all the words? Or are these exercises designed in a way that you should just be able to understand enough to solve them?

[plush pelican]

If you can get the correct answers, that's good enough for the test. But if you're missing a lot, I'd suggest listening to more German to get used to listening comprehension. Easy German Podcast would be my recommendation for someone at B1 level.

[lament pecan]

ok, I'll make sure to check that out

I understand german a lot better in written form

[plush pelican]

Remember: learning a foreign language is actually 4 skills in one: reading, writing, speaking, and listening. You need to practice all 4.

[hidden tusk]

i think its more than 15 minutes now

can i get to the voice chats?

[drifting wasp]

ja bestimmt

[hidden tusk]

danke

[fervent kernel]

why voice chats are blocked to me? i just entered the server

[stoic mauve]

@fervent kernel, please read the Roles section in #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more.

[drifting wasp]

🔹New users will initially be given the @Limited Permissions role which prevents them from joining voice channels and posting media. This will be removed after 15 minutes (longer for young accounts)

[fervent kernel]

thanks

i didnt read it sorry

vielen dank!

[drifting wasp]

ja kein Problem

[brave flint]

Ist dieser Satz richtig?

Ich kann mich noch an den glücklichen Augenblick erinnern, der passiert, als ich Kind war.

[hybrid quartz]

@brave flint
Ich würde sagen:

Ich kann mich noch an einen glücklichen Augenblick erinnern, der passiert ist, als ich ein Kind war.

[brave flint]

Danke schön! 🙂

[fervent kernel]

What does this headline mean exactly?
Mehr Direktzüge in polnische Städte: Warum das Gute so naheliegt
I get that it's "more direct trains in polish cities"

Is Warum das Gute so naheliegt sort of like "why the 'good' is yet to come?" in English?

[long whale]

It's a quotation from Goethe: "Willst du immer weiterschweifen? Sieh, das Gute liegt so nah!"

Literally sth like "Why keep roving? Look, something good is near you!"

[fervent kernel]

Always appreciate your insight 🙂

[long whale]

Well, it's so famous, I guess most people don't even realize it's a quotation anymore. 😄

[fervent kernel]

not to language learner I suppose 😅

[long whale]

Most native speakers, I meant.

[fervent kernel]

as a tangent, out of curiousity does Schlafung sound just as ridiculous as Sleeption in English?

[long whale]

Probably. 🤔

[fervent kernel]

I guess I haven't fully acquired that Sprachgefühl yet

[long whale]

I feel a better English equivalent would be "sleepery" -> first thing you'd think would be "typo!", wouldn't it?

[fervent kernel]

It totally would haha, I was just trying to ascertain whether stuff like Schlafung are ridiculously weird or just plain wrong

Sort of like how We will wear into the wall (a literally translated Arabic expression) is not just weird in English, it's flat out wrong and incomprehensible.

(it means we will fail btw)

[charred harbor]

I probably wouldn’t, to be honest. Would definitely depend on context though
It sounds like a made-up word for a room with lots of beds to me (like “tannery” but for sleeping)

[long whale]

In this particular case, it just seems plain wrong to me. But that might be because I've seen it too often... ;)

[fervent kernel]

noted

[plush pelican]

the first thing I'd think is that someone is being intentionally playful with the language, much like the word "fuckery"

[sand bronze]

If I want to say: "they talk about fish n chips" in german. Would I have to use "über" or "um"?

[long whale]

Please don't post the same question in more than 1 channel. ;)

[hushed dawn]

Kämpfen für und Kämpfen um. Beide sind richtig, aber was ist der Unterschied ?

[long whale]

to fight for so/sth vs to fight about so/sth

I.e. Er kämpft für den König (he's fighting on the king's side/to help the king) vs. Er kämpft um die Krone (he's fighting because he wants the crown [for himself])

[hushed dawn]

Verstanden, danke 🙂

Andere Frage bitte, sind beide ähnlich ? "sich kümmern um und sorgen für".

[long whale]

Yes.

[fervent kernel]

what's the difference between "bedrohen" and "drohen" if I may ask?

[long whale]

They're not the same, mind you. And for plants/ inanimate objects/things you take care of, you can only use "sich um etwas kümmern"

[long whale]

Same as with a great many be- verbs: they're transitive, requiring a direct object -> the difference is in the grammar: jemandem drohen vs. jemanden bedrohen

[fervent kernel]

is that be-verb thing a general rule of thumb?

[long whale]

be-verbs being transitive - yes. You'll still have to look them up to find out whether grammar is the only difference: etwas (Akk) stellen = to put sth in an upright position vs. etwas (Akk) bestellen = to order sth

[wise pendant]

be- hat immer einen zusätzlichen Bezug auf etwas oder jemanden auf das Einfluss genommen wird.
fahren - drive
befahren - drive on a road
danken - thank
bedanken - thanking a person
arbeiten - work
bearbeiten - work on something

[fervent kernel]

thanks, both of you

[calm kernel]

Neue Wörter und Abkürzungen werden immer mehr zu deutschen Wörterbüchern hinzugefügt.
Should this immer or immer mehr?

or i think it should be immer mehr neue wörter und... right?

[hushed dawn]

Obwohl er meinte, er hätte es geschafft, begannen die Probleme erst richtig.

was bedeutet "erst richtig" hier ?

[whole portal]

erst = for the first time, first, only then
richtig = really, truly

so the problems only then truly started

[plush pelican]

Remind me, when you're doing the Ihr that's the Middle Ages equivalent of the modern formal Sie, you capitalize the pronoun and the possessive pronoun, right?

Ihr, Eure Kleidung.

Do you also capitalize the reflexive pronoun?

Ihr habt Euch gut geschlagen. (?)

[long whale]

Yup.

[plush pelican]

Danke, Susana

[hushed dawn]

Krankenpfleger vs Krankenschwester ?

[plush pelican]

I think "Krankenpfleger" is the new gender-neutral term, because of course not all nurses are women (Schwestern, sisters)

[ripe dust]

Is that good for A2 - B1? I had today a dreaming where a man was singing a song on German.

[calm kernel]

könnte jemand mir bitte damit helfen?

[agile kraken]

Hallo

[delicate tiger]

New words and abbreviations are being added to German dictionaries more and more. (immer mehr)
New words and abbreviations are always added to German dictionaries. (immer)

[calm kernel]

i think i'm trying to say "more and more". should I have said "immer mehr wörter und abkürzungen werden..."

does that sound natural or is there any other better alternative?

[delicate tiger]

both work, "immer mehr" at the beginning sounds better

[placid tartan]

Hi guys I need help

[regal heath]

go on

[real trench]

how do you do this

[plain umbra]

Are you sure this is the right exercise for you? Just want to check because you are Level A but this is more like a B1 grammar topic.

[real trench]

yeah it is

i am A-2

trying some B stuffs

[plain umbra]

Okay, nice.

[real trench]

cuz next year i am having level B germans

[plain umbra]

Do you know how to do Passiv in present tense?

[real trench]

i dont know what it is but if you give me an example of it i prob know

[plain umbra]

Das Brot wird gegessen.

[real trench]

ah

no

the brea will be eaten?

bread

[plain umbra]

Well, it doesn't make sense to learn past tense Passiv before present tense, so I recommend to learn present tense form first.

[real trench]

alr thank you

wait

[plain umbra]

Sort of. The translation would be "The bread is being eaten".

[real trench]

could you give me an example of present tense

[plain umbra]

Passive means that the thing the action is being done to is the subject of the sentence, unlike active sentences where the subject is the one doing the action.

[plain umbra]

Das Brot wird gegessen.

faq passiv

[stoic mauve]

Passive Voice

In English and German, a verb can have one of two voices which describe the relationship between the verb and the subject. These voices are the active voice and passive voice.

Typically, we use the active voice, where the subject is the doer or agent of the action. For example:

The man eats the apple.

In this sentence, the agent (the man) is acting upon (by eating) the object (the apple).

In the passive voice, the subject is the receiver or patient of the action. This typically places the emphasis on the patient or action, and the agent can be left out altogether if it is unknown or irrelevant. For example, the above sentence converted into the passive voice becomes:

The apple is being eaten.

In this example, the patient (the apple) is being acted upon (by being eaten) by an unknown agent.

Vorgangspassiv and Zustandspassiv

German offers two passive forms: the Vorgangspassiv and the Zustandspassiv. The Vorgangspassiv refers to the process of an action, while the Zustandspassiv refers to the state of an action. The Vorgangspassiv is more often used and relates closely to the active voice. See >explain Vorgangspassiv for an explanation of the Vorgangspassiv, and see >explain Stative Passive for an explanation of Zustandspassiv.

See Also

https://bit.ly/2Nqu84t (dartmouth university)
https://bit.ly/3sSXs9A (leo.org)
https://bit.ly/2RyEodX (Passive Voice on Pferd's blog)

[real trench]

!viel danke

[plain umbra]

explain Vorgangspassiv

[stoic mauve]

Vorgangspassiv

Vorgangspassiv
The Vorgangspassiv is formed with werden as the finite/conjugated verb and the past participle of the main verb (or action verb) in the active voice sentence.

For example, when we translate The man eats the apple., we get:

Der Mann isst den Apfel.

When this sentence is converted into its passive voice equivalent, several things happen:

• The finite verb becomes the equivalent conjugation for werden. isst --> wird
• The main verb is then converted into its past participle and placed at the end of the clause, when possible. isst --> gegessen
• The accusative object becomes the (nominative) subject. den Apfel --> Der Apfel
• The subject is indicated with the preposition von or simply left out altogether. Der Mann --> (vom Mann)

Putting this together, we create the passive voice sentence:

Der Apfel wird (vom Mann) gegessen.

‼ Only the accusative object of a verb can become the subject in a passive sentence. This means verbs that govern a dative, genitive, or prepositional object can never become the subject. Instead, the object remains as it was.

For example, the verb helfen governs a dative object. An example with it in an active sentence would be:

Der Mann hat dem Kollegen geholfen.

When converted to the passive voice, dem Kollegen does not change case:

Dem Kollegen wurde (vom Mann) geholfen.

This applies equally to verbs that govern genitive and prepositonal objects:

Der Toten wurde gedacht.
Über das Thema wird kaum gesprochen.

Tenses & Moods

Present: Der Apfel wird gegessen.
Simple Past: Der Apfel wurde gegessen.
Future: Der Apfel wird gegessen werden.
Present Perfect: Der Apfel ist gegessen worden.
Past Perfect: Der Apfel war gegessen worden.
Future Perfect: Der Apfel wird gegessen worden sein.

See Also:

https://bit.ly/2Quvo8q (Pferd's blog)

[plain umbra]

No problem.

[fervent kernel]

Ist dieser Satz grammatisch richtig?
"Ich bemühe bei der Aufgabe", bedeutet: "Ich mache mir Mühe, um die Aufgabe zu erledigen"

[long whale]

The verb is reflexive, so, where's the reflexive pronoun? ;)

[fervent kernel]

With the reflexive part does it work? Because I couldn't find information about that verb being used with "bei" on verbformen.de

[long whale]

Yes, seems fine to me.

[fervent kernel]

Thank you 🙂

[narrow canyon]

Ich habe ein Lied geschrieben für meine Studentenverbindung. Es geht um eine sogenennte "Farbenstrophe", die über die Farben des Verbindungs geht. Könnt ihr bitte die Text auf Fehler überprüfen?

Die Plutonicaner Farbenstrophe

Aus der schönsten Stadt von Flandern
Blau der Universität
Weiß und grün, von Limburgs Wiesen
Frieden und Serenität

Blau-weiß-grün durch alle Straßen
Tragt sie Stolz, am Herzen nah
Lebe Limburg, lebe Löwen
Lebe hoch, Plutonica! (bis)

Die wichtigste Fragen sind:

• Das wort "Serenität" ist altmodisch, aber klingt es auch wirklich komisch wenn mann es in einem Lied so singt?
• "Lebe Limburg, lebe Löwen": wie klingt das? Klingt's normal oder etwa komisch?
• Kann mann "Lebe hoch" statt "hoch lebe" sagen?

Oder passt das besser in #writing ?

[long whale]

I'm surprised to find "Serenität" used to exist and is simply obsolete. I guess people who speak English will understand by deducing from English "serenity" - otherwise, I'm pretty much convinced no German would know what it means. - IMO, Lebe Limburg, lebe Löwen doesn't really work, no. You'd have to say sth like "Es lebe Limburg, es leben die Löwen" or "Limburg und die Löwen leben hoch!" - Yes, "Lebe hoch" is fine.

[narrow canyon]

Löwen ist die name einer Stadt, aber das problem ist "Lebe" statt "es lebe", korrekt?

[long whale]

Lebet hoch, Limburg und Löwen (lebet being imperative for plural you)

would also work.

[narrow canyon]

Das Problem ist das es dann nicht mehr auf die Weise passt

https://youtu.be/0-YbkjhXgCQ das ist die Weise

Was sind haufige Wörter, die sich auf "Universität" reimen?

[wise pendant]

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reim:Deutsch:-ɛːt

rät, mäht, spät, brät, berät, Gerät sind einige der häufigsten Wörter

[narrow canyon]

Was heißt "rät"?

Ist "Benignität" ein bekanntes Wort?

[narrow canyon]

Wusste nicht, das es das auf Wiktionary gab, danke

[wise pendant]

"guesses" as in "He guesses the lottery numbers"

[wise pendant]

ne

[narrow canyon]

Hmmm

[delicate tiger]

von "raten" -> "er rät"

[narrow canyon]

Okay, vielleicht staat "Frieden und Serenität" -> "Wo der Bauer Hafer mäht"? Klingt das gut, oder nicht?

[delicate tiger]

Das Wort steht zwar noch im Duden, aber nur mit dem Tag "veraltet", hat in den letzten hundert Jahren keiner mehr benutzt

[narrow canyon]

Pahahaha, okay

[narrow canyon]

Oder "Roggen mäht"?

[delicate tiger]

(bezog sich auf "Serenität")

[narrow canyon]

Verstand ich ;)

Also, "Wo der Bauer Weizen mäht", gut oder nicht?

Und noch: "Lebe Limburg, lebe Löwen" -> "Lebe hoch Studentenfreiheit"?

[delicate tiger]

Passt von der Sprache her, aber ich glaube die Anzahl der Silben passt nicht (zweiter Teil hat eine zu viel)

[narrow canyon]

Nicht? Auf dieser Weise? https://youtu.be/0-YbkjhXgCQ

Le-be-ho-och-stu-u-de-ente-en-frei-ei-heit

[hushed dawn]

Gechlecht und Genus, was ist der Unterschied ?

[gusty silo]

Genus wird nur in der Sprachwissenschaft und ich glaube auch Biologie verwendet. In der Sprachwissenschaft einfach das selbe wie Geschlecht für Leute die besonders auf lateinische Begriffe abfahren, in der Biologie vermutlich auch (das weiß ich aber nicht)

[hushed dawn]

Meistens wenn Mann "hören" benutzt, wird ein dativ pronomen gestellt, oder? Aber warum sagt man z.b. "Wen hört der Nachbar" und nicht Wem ?

[long whale]

The German word "Mann" does not work for "general you", that's the German word "man", okay? And where have you seen/heard "hören" used with Dativ? It's "etwas/jemanden hören" -> Akkusativ.

I think you were thinking of "sich etwas (Akk) anhören" (separable verb)

[hushed dawn]

Ich meinte "zuhoren".

[long whale]

Ah. Yes.

[hushed dawn]

I confused things up " Ich habe die Dinge durcheinander gebracht" ist das richtig zu sagen?

[long whale]

If you can't type the Umlaut, please insert an extra E: zuhören/zuhoeren

[hushed dawn]

okay

[long whale]

Yes, except it's 1 word: durcheinandergebracht

💐

[hushed dawn]

Vielen Dank

[hushed dawn]

Gibt es einen Bedeutungsunterschied zwischen " Ich treffe Katrin" und "Ich treffe mich mit Katrin". Welche ist mehr benutzt ?

[long whale]

1st means "I'm accidentally running into Katrin", 2nd means "I'm meeting Katrin", i.e. it's by appointment: you agreed to meet.

[hushed dawn]

Alles klar.

[reef moss]

If you are are trying to keep the same number of syllables and the trochaic rhythm: Lebet hoch! Oh, Limburg, Löwen works, but since I don't know the music, I can't guarantee it fits the melody

One syllable shorter with the trochaic rhythm is: Limburg, Löwen: Lebet hoch! However, the ending syllable is now emphasized

[narrow canyon]

That would also fit, thank you

[hushed dawn]

Ich zeige ihm die Gegend (oder den Bereich?).

[long whale]

Depends on what you want to say.

[hushed dawn]

Können Sie mehr erklaren ?

[long whale]

erklären/erklaeren - Both words exist. The just don't mean the same thing.

[hushed dawn]

schön, das habe ich nicht gewusst.

[fervent kernel]

Wrong, they mean the same thing

ä = ae
ö = oe
ü = ue

[long whale]

Please read the original post.

[fervent kernel]

ok, da hab ich was mißverstanden.

[neon vessel]

ich bin B1 noch und ich mochte meine sprache verbessern

ich brauche einen youtube canal wo kann ich kurse finden

bitte

[fervent kernel]

@neon vessel
solltest du dir das ansehen: #resources
und vielleicht nicht das, was du im Kopf hattest, aber guck mal: https://www.youtube.com/@EasyGerman

[long whale]

Check out faq Nicos Weg in #botchannel - you'll find lots of free online courses on the dw website. ;)

[neon vessel]

Danke

[tender pilot]

That made me smile lol

I fell for that at first too

[hushed dawn]

Was ist der unterschied zwischen obligat und obligatorisch ?

[gusty silo]

i have never seen obligat before ever, i'll bet it's academic jargon in a field or two and perhaps something for diehard lovers of latin-language internationalisms

if that

[long whale]

They're synonymous, but as you can see, "obligatorisch" is a bit more common. ;)

[gusty silo]

obligat lands in the same box as ambig for me 😵‍💫

[long whale]

But it isn't even classified as "rare" on DWDS. 🤷

[gusty silo]

wild

[long whale]

"obligatorisch" only has 1 bar more.

[gusty silo]

huh

[long whale]

Yes. For usage. Upper right hand corner.

[mint linden]

That one bar makes a huge difference

[plush pelican]

ambig and obligat are words?

[cyan badger]

Hallo Leute. Wie bildet man perfekt von 'ausziehen' ? Im buch steht, dass man hat und ist verwenden kann. Gibt's Unterschiede zwischen beiden?

[gusty silo]

kommt drauf an, was du genau machst. ausziehen hat zwei Bedeutungen, Kleider ablegen und irgendwo weggehen.
Ich habe meinen Pulli ausgezogen.
Ich bin von daheim ausgezogen.

[long whale]

Yes. So says DWDS. All hail DWDS! 😄

[gusty silo]

ambig i have actually encountered before but good god is it rare

[cyan badger]

Vielen Dank ich habe mir auch so vorgestellt

[gusty silo]

ambig will not be understood by the average person, i'm fairly sure, or with some trouble

it certainly won't be used by the majority of people

[long whale]

Well, obligat is used waaaaaay more often. 😄

[gusty silo]

i'm happy to believe you on that, don't worry :p

[hushed dawn]

Wie ist Sportart unterschiedlich von Sport ?

[hushed dawn]

Es gibt das Satz, dass ich nicht verstanden habe, was "beide" hier bedeutet. Soll "zweiten" nicht ein besseres Wort sein ?
"Überfliegen Sie die ersten beiden Abschnitte im Magazinartikel". Also auf Englisch wird das übersetzt als "Scan the first both paragraphs ?"

[long whale]

zweit- = second (!) - Well, "die ersten zwei Abschnitte" would mean the same thing, yes.

[gusty silo]

Sport = sports, exercise
Sportart = a particular discipline
Sport ist anstrengend.
Tennis und Fußball sind beides Sportarten.
Sport is effectively a mass noun in german, Sportart is what you'd rather use when you're talking about sport as something that, as far as the sentence requires it, is divisible or countable

[charred harbor]

den Satz, den ich*

Looking at context probably “einen Satz, den ich” actually 🤔

[hushed dawn]

übersetzt "Isses auch" als "It is, too" ?

ist das ein Dialekt ?

[calm kernel]

Ich bemühe mich, diese Ausgabe zu erledigen
Ich gebe mich Mühe, diese Aufgabe zu erledigen

[unique dune]

its like a confirmation of something. its not dialect, just contracted/slang

„Das klingt anstrengend“
„Isses auch“

[fervent kernel]

a contraction of ist es auch? it sounds more of a question than a reply if that were the case

[unique dune]

yes its ist es auch. its a reply

[fervent kernel]

is this some sort of exception? or is this colloquial? can you please expand upon why the verb is in the beginning? @unique dune

[unique dune]

(Das) ist es auch

the das is missing technically

[fervent kernel]

aha thanks

[unique dune]

[hushed dawn]

Schwerhörig bedeutet have a problem in hearing or completely deaf ?

[whole portal]

not completely deaf

that's taub

[hushed dawn]

Okay

[whole portal]

I think it's to be hard of hearing in english

[fervent kernel]

Hi! Who are u? Im here to find a penpal. So if someone wants be my penpal, he/she can add me!

[plain umbra]

Looks like you were trying to post in #1113784285883809944 ?

[fervent kernel]

oh thank you i hadn't seen

[lofty gull]

Wenn ich sage: "Er ist verrückt geworden." Ist das Grammatisch und Inhaltskorrekt? Oder soll ich auch der Grund nennen z.B. : "Er ist verrückt geworden, wegen des Umstandes von der Einsamkeit und Isolierung" Sind beide Sätze möglich zu formulieren?

[delicate tiger]

Erster Teil passt, den zweiter Teil musst du noch mal überarbeiten

[lofty gull]

"Er ist verrückt geworden, wegen der Einsamkeit und Isolierung" - jetzt besser oder etwas noch fehlt?

[delicate tiger]

"Er ist durch die Einsamkeit und Isolierung verrückt geworden."

[cyan badger]

Guten Abend soll ich hier 'Keine Besonderheiten' ankreuzen? Ich bin mir nicht sicher ob es etwas anderes bedeutet. Ich bin kein Veganer.

[undone verge]

keine besonderheiten 👍

[shadow ocean]

"sie sind seine besten Freunde"
Warum "besten"? Why is it dativ?

[undone verge]

it isn't dative but rather nominative

seine besten Freunde <- nominative plural

[shadow ocean]

Isnt it the object of the sentence?

[undone verge]

'sein' takes nominative on both sides

[shadow ocean]

Sie- subject, sind-verb, Freunde- object

[cyan badger]

Danke schön)

[shadow ocean]

ah I see

[undone verge]

in german it is usually better to think of it like 'what does the verb want?'

[shadow ocean]

so how come it's besten? is it Adjektivdeklination nach bestimmten Artikel der/das/die?

[plush pelican]

https://www.germanveryeasy.com/adjective-declension#Mixed-declension

[undone verge]

yeah, plural nominative with definite article takes an -n

[shadow ocean]

Ok thanks a lot (:

[shadow ocean]

Oh yeah I have this printed out I was just wondering why it's Nominativ.

Next year I am not going to enroll in a B1-B2 course, instead I will just buy the B1 book and start speaking Deutsch with others.

[plush pelican]

A couple of verbs don't technically have objects, they have "predicate complements" that are reflections of the subject. Since they're reflections of the subject, they're also in nominative.

[shadow ocean]

Best way to learn is to communicate in my opinion, basics are important as well but it's time to practice.

[plush pelican]

sein, werden, bleiben, heißen, scheinen

[brave flint]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen k/einen in diesem Satz?

Ich gehe nicht regelmäßig laufen, ohne dass ich k/einen festen Termin mit anderen Läufern habe.
Ich bin verwirrt und bin mir nicht sicher, ob hier der Negativartikel nötig ist.

[unique dune]

keinen doesnt make sense imo

it would be a double negation

[brave flint]

Ach so, so German doesn't do double negation?

[whole portal]

It does but the sentence doesn't really make sense

[brave flint]

ah, okay, thanks!

another question: Is this sentence correct?

Ach, Marietta möchte immer tun, was ihr älterer Bruder macht, statt zu überlegen, was sie für sich mag.

[long whale]

I think we'd rather say "M. always wants to do the same as her older B.", and I'd replace "was sie für sich mag" (which sounds... odd to me) with "was sie möchte" ;)

[brave flint]

Ach so, das macht Sinn
Ist dieser Satz richtig: "M. will immer tun, dieselbe wie ihr älterer Bruder, statt zu überlegen, was sie möchte."

[long whale]

No. dieselbe would refer to a singular feminine noun which you haven't got. You need the neuter version. And it has to be inserted between "immer" and "tun" (and no comma).

[brave flint]

Ach so, ich habe an "dieselbe Aktivität" gedacht, deshalb habe ich die feminine Form benutzt.

Wäre das hier der richtige Satz?

M. will immer dasselbe tun, wie ihr älterer Bruder, statt zu überlegen, was sie möchte.

[long whale]

What about "no comma after tun"? Otherwise, yes, it's now correct.

[brave flint]

Like this? 🙂

M. will immer dasselbe tun wie ihr älterer Bruder, statt zu überlegen, was sie möchte.

Vielen herzlichen Dank!

[long whale]

Yes. - Bitte, gern. ;)

[fervent kernel]

can i say ''ich lerne deutsch mit Bücher lesen'' instead of ''ích lerne deutsch, indem ich Bücher lese''?

and if not, does that mean ''mit'' is only used with things like ''with someone'' ''with people'' etc?

[gusty silo]

durch Bücherlesen would also work
mit Bücherlesen doesn't sound good to me

[gusty silo]

mit can be used for objects, even the means by which you do something, too, like in english. just doesn't sound great here

[fervent kernel]

i see, vielen dank

[gusty silo]

i think the lesen is what makes it odd

Ich lerne deutsch mit Büchern i would accept

[mild meteor]

[hushed dawn]

Sind Etage, Stock, und Boden alle gleich ?

[whole portal]

Also Boden sagt man eigentlich nicht dafür.

Und Stock hat natürlich noch andere Bedeutungen.

[hushed dawn]

Können Sie mehr erklaren bitte ?

[whole portal]

Man sagt nicht 1. Boden oder so.

[faint yew]

1. Boden sagt man in dem Kontext nicht, Boden heißt floor aber damit ist der Boden in einem Zimmer gemeint.

2. Etage kann man sagen ja

3. Stock kann man auch sagen, aber der erste Stock ist immer nachdem man die erste Treppe hoch gelaufen ist. Und das auf Höhe des Eingangs nennt man Erdgeschoss (EG) und das darunter, z.b. ein Keller nennt man Untergeschoss (UG)

[long whale]

@hushed dawn To add to what Dream said, "der Dachboden", or just "der Boden" also means "attic".

[acoustic breach]

Ich habe nur heute gewusst, dass die Konjugation von "wechseln" für "ich" beide "wechsele" und "wechsle" sein kann.

Aber welches wird häufiger benutzt? Oder ist es ok, irgendwelches im Alltag zu benutzen?

[long whale]

Ich habe nur erst heute gewusst erfahren/gelernt, dass... - You'll only hear either "ich wechsle" or "ich wechsel", I'd say. If you look at Präsens here and look at what it says down below about that tiny little "5", you'll see these are the colloquial forms: https://www.verbformen.de/konjugation/wechseln_hat.htm ;)

[acoustic breach]

Danke für die Korrektur und die Information!!

[acoustic breach]

@latent wadi Falls es dich interessiert

[latent wadi]

aso

[languid glen]

Might a stupid question, but what is the diffrence between zwei Männer and zweie Männer?

I understand the zweier (Gen) und zweien (Dativ) but why in Akk and Nom do we have zweie?

[long whale]

The difference is zweie doesn't exist. Typo? ;)

[languid glen]

Really?

I have been using these for monthS, are they false now?

[long whale]

Which website is it from? Looks like it got automatically generated. 🤔 The only one which is correct is Genitiv Plural (as far as zwei is concerned).

[languid glen]

It is from famous german-teaching russian website that I have been using for almost a year. https://www.de-online.ru/index/sklonenie_prilagatelnykh_v_nemeckom_jazyke/0-68

[languid glen]

Do you have a correct resource for plural forms then?

OMG. I am so dissapointed in them.

[long whale]

When you click on Flexion on the right, you get the declension table: https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/zwei

[languid glen]

Thank you @long whale , you are a savior.

[long whale]

It might just be one error? The author got confused by the fact numbers get declinated in Russian (I assume) the way they do in Polish? :🤷

[languid glen]

Just to be sure, the word zweie does not exist at all, did I get it right?

[long whale]

You got that right.

(It did use to exist. Like... 200+ years ago, maybe?)

[languid glen]

No in russian in nominativ there is no ending added; only shows how stupid the author must be. And the fact that they didn't correct it for years.

The correct way is much easier 🤣

[long whale]

@languid glen To save that website's reputation (the one you've been using, I mean): I just realized wiktionary indicates "zweie" is an obsolete Nebenform. -> Maybe the author was just misled?

[languid glen]

Also noticed that, but c'mon , you gonna teach it newbies - teach it the right way (who is gonna need the obsolete version). Shame on him/her.

[hushed dawn]

Vielen Dank Dream und Susana

[languid glen]

Ich war darauf vorbereitet, dies mit dem Commissioner zu besprechen.
Ich war darauf vorbereitet, das mit dem Commissioner zu besprechen.
Are the of the same meaning?

[long whale]

Yes.

Technically, it's the difference between "it" and "this", but we don't differentiate between those, definitely not in speaking.

[hushed dawn]

Ich habe versucht, zwei kurze Krankmeldungensbeispiele zu schreiben. Könnte Jemand die überprüfen, oder bessere Wörter vorschlagen ?

Sehr geehrte Frau Emma

ich habe Rückenschmerzen, sodass ich heute zur Arbeit nicht kommen kann.

Ich bitte Sie, mein Fehlen zu entschuldigen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Zweittes Beispiel:

Zweites Beispiel:

Sehr geehrte Frau Emma

mein Sohn hat eine Erkältung. Deshalb kann er bis zum 18.07 nicht am Schwimmkurs teilnehmen.

Ich bitte Sie, sein Fehlen zu entschuldigen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

[long whale]

spelling: Krankmeldungsbeispiele

For the placement of "nicht", please see https://learnoutlive.com/german-negation-nicht/

German works like English as far as addressing people by their names is concerned: you cannot say Frau [first name], it's always Frau [last name]

[hushed dawn]

Okay 🙂

[long whale]

(I know it's meant to sound extra polite, depending on your native language, but if I get addressed as Frau Susana I feel as if I were the cleaner. ;) )

Also, there must be a comma after the name:

Sehr geehrte Frau Müller**,**

[hushed dawn]

Neee , wird das nicht nochmal gemacht 😁

[long whale]

*das wird nicht... 😅

[acoustic breach]

More beautiful than something: schöner als etwas
Less beautiful than something: weniger schön als etwas?

Or do we just say "nicht so schön wie etwas"?

[long whale]

Both work, but I guess we use the 2nd much more in speaking. ;)

[acoustic breach]

Danke Susana!

[plush pelican]

People actually do sometimes say, "Ms. Susan" or something like that, but I don't think it's very common--I think it's mostly done by children addressing a teacher. You can think of it as a capitalized Du, where it's sort of halfway-between formal and informal.

[long whale]

(Unhappily remembering my small Spanish students' screams of "Miss! Miss!") Doesn't happen in German, though, not to my knowledge, at least. If you don't count the smallest elementary school students accidentally saying "Frau Müller, du hast..."

[plush pelican]

To be clear: I just meant in English, we do do that

[hushed dawn]

Parfum mit oder ohne Umlaut ?

ist es richtig zu sagen ' Es hing noch Duft ihres Parfüms"

[past anchor]

Beides ist richtig.

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Parfuem

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Parfum

Plural von Parfüm: Parfüme, Parfüms.
Plural von Parfum: Parfums.

[median timber]

Are both of these sentences correct and equal to eachother:
Wir und unsere Grosseltern wohnen zusammen under einem Dach
Wir und die Grosseltern wohnen zusammen under einem Dach

[long whale]

Spelling: unter. - Yes.

Although I feel we'd rather say "Wir wohnen mit den/unseren Großeltern unter einem Dach. (putting in both "zusammen" and "unter einem Dach" is kind of gilding the lily. ;)

[median timber]

Thank you :D

[flint nimbus]

Na ja. Jeder kann mal zwei Wochen weg sein, oder?

is mal used as a modal particle here?

[proven sphinx]

I think it just means "at some point". It's short for "einmal".

[flint nimbus]

i see, makes sense

danke

[fallow glen]

Ich versuchen deutsch üben in Spiel
Das Deutsch in Frage:
Can anyone seriously explain this I'm at borderline crisis. In english every option is travel, but in german it's different??

[long whale]

No, it isn't any different, really. If you look at the sentences, can you identify the verb in both?

[fallow glen]

Reisen und Reist. What I have no clue is why some word change? Like Zum and An die

[long whale]

Correct. 💐 The verb is the same in both. What they've done (and I have no idea why!) is they've made the 2nd sentence a command, an Imperativ: Travel to...!

[fallow glen]

It is still technically correct if it went to Reist zum Auge des Nordens, richtig?

[long whale]

As to the prepositions - I'm afraid there is no good answer. Saying "zur Küste" would technically work, it would just be unidiomatic, I feel. 🤷

[long whale]

Oh yes.

An die Nieselwald-Küste reisen would also be correct.

[fallow glen]

Okay, the second tome explains this phenomenom
Verbs can literally stay the same but it changes at zum, ins and nach.

[long whale]

Yes, local prepositions tend to give learners a headache. They... need to be learnt/practised in context.

If you were doing a course, you'd first learn that it's "nach" with countries (nach Italien, nach Polen), except if the country happens to be used with the definite article (which is random). In that case, it's "in" (in die Schweiz, in die USA, in den Irak)

@fallow glen

[fallow glen]

Unfortunately I was blind learning german so I have never taken any course (yet) but seeing how I already lost the battle with gendered grammar I might need to take one (for free.... I'm still a student with no salary lol) Right now I'm kinda trying to absorb all vocabulary by learning the words from the game, haha.

[long whale]

Perhaps check the faq Nicos Weg in #botchannel That site offers various excellent, free German courses. - What do you mean "lost the battle with gendered grammar"?

[fallow glen]

I keep getting Die, Der and Das wrong. 70/100 of the time lol. 😭

[long whale]

The trick is to learn every word with its gender. It's just a tiny additional step, but it will help you enormously in the long run: Don't learn "Sumpf = swamp", learn "der Sumpf = swamp" (and best add the plural while you're at it: die Sümpfe). Unfortunately, it's a fact that you can't learn German without gender.

Just think: it's fine as long as you're at the "I eat an apple" stage. But once you'd like to make or even just read sentences which are a little more complex, you'll want to know how to use pronouns - and those are gendered. 🤷

[fallow glen]

...Can google translate or DeepL help with learning each word with die der das? I feel ashamed to even ask about this, eeee.

[long whale]

Do you mean sth like "How do I find out which gender a noun has?" If so, any dictionary will tell you that. There's a letter or an abbreviation right next to the noun, usually in italics: f (or fem) for "die", n (or neut for "das") and m (or masc) for "der".

deepl is brilliant, but it really works best when it's given context, it can't really replace a dictionary. ;)

And don't be ashamed - you're trying to learn a language, which is hard for everyone, not just you. It's what the server is for, after all. 🧁

Ask around, you'll find plenty of people here who'll tell you: I ignored gender at first, and then I had to go back and learn all of the words all over again. 😽

[fallow glen]

Time to find a german dictionary now. 👀
Thank you for the lessons. I'm putting what you just taught me in the notepad. It's filled with corrections from the mistake also. xD
Once I talked to german friend about my country: Meiner Land, he helps me correct to Meinem Land and I did that exactly in the notepad to remember next time.

[plain umbra]

Yeah, agreed with what Susana said, please make sure to learn to use a dictionary. It's an invaluable tool for many reasons in language learning and a translator is not a suitable replacement.

faq dict

[stoic mauve]

What does this word mean?

The best way to understand the meaning of a word is to use a dictionary. Monolingual dictionaries such as dwds.de, de.wiktionary.org and duden.de will often provide the most accurate definitions and examples for a word. If you are not yet comfortable with using a monolingual dictionary, bilingual dictionaries are also an option (dict.cc, dict.leo.org, pons.com).

The key here is to empower yourself to find the answer on your own. Using the many examples provided in dictionaries like DWDS, Wiki and Duden can help you confidently understand the word, and how to use it. If you still have trouble; don't worry! You can use #questions, #questions-2 or the #942470380692590632 to ask someone for further clarification.

[plain umbra]

Here are some options you can try out. But there are also more not listed here.

[fallow glen]

Natürlich, at first there's a lot of DEU dict from google; that I wasn't sure if it's accurate or not to bother with. But with your recommendation I can finally learn the gendered grammar to my heart's content.
Vielen danke nochmal!! Liebe Sie alles hier. ❤️

[hushed dawn]

Wie wird "nichts wie los" übersetzt als "Let's get going" ? Ich könnte das nicht verstehen.

[languid glen]

is also a part of TEKAMOLO?

Is it at position 1 or 0?

[plain umbra]

Also is an adverb so if you start a clause with it, it's position 1.

That's unrelated to TeKaMoLo though.

Position 1 adverb is not subject to TeKaMoLo since position 1 is special.

[languid glen]

Also, passt die Stimmung der Situation sehr gut.

Is it correct then?

[plain umbra]

No comma.

[languid glen]

Okay, thank you!

[wide berry]

There’s a helpful app for this called DerDieDas

[plain umbra]

Also can be used with a comma if it's being used as an interjection, but then it will be followed by a full clause. Here you are using it as an adverb so it's in position 1 with no comma.

[long whale]

I guess it's something you need to learn, just like "gern[e]" - some German words simply don't have an exact equivalent in English (and vice versa). "los" is usually like the "go" in "Ready, steady, go!" And "Nichts wie los" is a bit like "Let's not lose another minute, let's go!" (literally sth like: Nothing but go!)

[languid glen]

Das Lacheln wird weggewischt von ihrem überraschten Gesicht.

@long whale As a native, do you understand that I mean from her suprised face not **by ** her suprised face?
I am just writting an essay from my head, so I don't know whether people do speak like that or not.

[plush pelican]

Can't it also be used as an aside before the clause and separated with a comma?

https://german.stackexchange.com/questions/9612/word-order-following-the-word-also

@languid glen

[plush pelican]

I think you need the prepositional phrase inside the verbal bracket, so before "weggewischt". Otherwise the prepositional phrase is in the Nachfeld, which is allowed in colloquial speech, but not really in writing, I think 🤔

[plush pelican]

Oh, missed this :D.

Interestingly, in the stack exchange link they said you can also use it as position 0 without a comma, which I don't really understand

[deep thicket]

i think most people will understand it
if you wanna say by her suprised face, then i'd say "Das Lächeln wird wegen ihrem überraschten Gesicht weggewischt"
so people would know it's by her suprised face

bruh

[languid glen]

Okay, now I am even more confused)

[languid glen]

So it is correct? Thank you)

[deep thicket]

i'd probably say "Das Lächeln wird von ihrem überraschten Gesicht weggewischt"

but yes it's correct

[languid glen]

Point taken, yours does sound better)

@plush pelican Argus Thanks for "clarification". BTW, i started writing short stories after your suggestion. Quite a pickle)

[long whale]

I don't think we'd think of her face wiping anything away - even though theoretically, it could mean that. ;)

[plain umbra]

I've seen that too. Not sure what the rule is for it though.

[plush pelican]

Indeed 😄

The way I've done it is either to try to write super short flash fiction, or to break stuff up and publish it in multiple parts, one part each day.

[sleek bone]

Ich bezahle ihn seinem Geld.

Is this right?

[real rivet]

Nope
Ich bezahle ihm sein Geld.

[sleek bone]

Ah! Danke!

[real rivet]

In case you wanted to say "I pay him his money"

[sleek bone]

Und beziehungsweise auch an eine Frau:
Ich bezahle ihr ihr Geld.
?

[sleek bone]

Yes.

[past anchor]

Wie kann man wissen, ob ein reflexives Verb transitiv oder intransitiv ist?

[rare jetty]

Um transitive und intransitive Verben unterscheiden zu können, muss immer geprüft werden, ob das Verb mit einem Akkusativobjekt steht oder stehen kann. Passt kein Akkusativobjekt, ist das Verb intransitiv. Wenn ein Akkusativobjekt im Satz steht und vom Verb abhängt, ist es transitiv.

[past anchor]

Ich sehe es mit einem Wörterbuch nach. Aber ich möchte es aufhören.

[rare jetty]

I just googled that.

[past anchor]

Ah.

[rare jetty]

https://www.sofatutor.com/deutsch/videos/transitive-und-intransitive-verben-2 This explains it pretty good. It's in german tho

[past anchor]

Ich weiß, was intransitive und transitive Verben sind. Aber ich möchte wissen, wie man zwischen reflexiven Verben unterscheidet.

[rare jetty]

Oh dann kann ich leider nicht helfen, tut mir leid

[past anchor]

Okay. Danke.

[jade crane]

Welche ist richtig? Da ist etwas oder Es gibt etwas, was ich Ihnen schon lange sagen wollte.

[rare jetty]

Both work

[foggy mist]

ist beides ok!

[jade crane]

Ich hab's, danke

BTW is this true?

[rare jetty]

Hallo Libelle Kannst du Katze oben helfen?

[jade crane]

I'm not sure if I can trust chatgpt

[rare jetty]

Yes but in that sentence of yours it doesn't really make a difference

[foggy mist]

ich schau mal

Ach, das ist wahrscheinlich so ein Thema, was sogar unter Sprachwissenschaftlern noch diskutiert wird, also ob Reflexivobjekte überhaupt als Verbobjekte gelten?
So wie ich das verstehe, sind Verben mit Akkusativreflexivobjekt transitiv und die mit Dativreflexivobjekt intransitiv, außer sie können noch ein Akkusativobjekt annehmen (was die meisten können, so wie "Ich putze mir die Zähne, ich merk's mir, ich bild's mir nur ein, ... )

aber ???? Keine Ahnung ob das stimmt

[cyan badger]

Hallo. Ich wollte etwas fragen Manchmal verwendet man Ihr statt Sie. Warum ist es so? Ihr im Nominativ.

für Einzelperson

[foggy mist]

im Mittelalter war das so

damals war das die höfliche Anrede

[cyan badger]

Vielen Dank)

[shut briar]

Dieser Regierungsmacht stand als Volksvertretung der Reichstag gegenüber

I cannot for my life understand this structure

I know the meaning cause I translated it but it won't sink in unless I know the structure

Maybe I'm too sleepy and this is incredibly simple?

Aber bitte helft mir

[obsidian fiber]

Der Satz kann so umgestellt werden:

Der Reichstag stand dieser Regierungsmacht als Voksvertretung gegenüber

Subjekt + Verb + Dativ + Komplement + Präfix

[shut briar]

Ach sooo, gegenüberstehen ist ein trenbares Verb! Also hat das mich verwirrt

[hushed dawn]

""Heutzutage ist es nämlich gar nicht so einfach ein Platz zu bekommen.""
Was ist die genaue übersetzung von nämlich hier ?

[hushed dawn]

Warum wird man sagt "sämtliche" statt alle ?

[long whale]

einen Platz... - I don't think it would get translated. Maybe it's a bit like "You see, these days, it isn't that easy..."

[long whale]

It's rather like saying "every single one of...", i.e. a bit more emphatic than "alle"

[calm kernel]

Bedeutet "Eine Vorlesung hören", dass wir an einer Vorlesung teilnehmen? Und wird das häufig verwendet?

[whole portal]

Anhören wohl eher

[delicate tiger]

ja (nicht nur anwesend sein, sondern das Fach studieren); selten

[flint nimbus]

how do i use der/die/das to create Relativsätze, if the gender of the word it's referring to is unknown, like for example if it's a name of a store? Simply das?

[delicate tiger]

you look up the gender or use a synonym that you know the gender of

[flint nimbus]

what's a synonym of a name?

so if it's a store, let's say IKEA, i would use the gender for store, in this case perhaps Geschäft = neuter?

[delicate tiger]

most store brands are male, der ALDI, der Mäckes...

[flint nimbus]

what if the name isn't german?

[delicate tiger]

same

[flint nimbus]

assumed male then?

same with restaurants?

[hot nexus]

Do people actualy use the word Pferdeäpfel?

[rare jetty]

Yes of course

I've never said Pferdekot/Pferdescheiße/Pferdekaka. Always Pferdeäpfel

[lament forge]

if you try to form a relative clause around a generic restaurant i d say "das" for the relativepronoun - "Das Restaurant, das meinem Bruder gehört, hat leckeres Essen"

[lament forge]

like "Kuhfladen"

[rare jetty]

ye

[hot nexus]

Fladen? 😆

[lament forge]

hell yea!

[narrow pier]

Hello beautiful people, volunteers and helpers of this server,

I have a question regarding a translation of deepl.

Could a native speaker show me how a German would translate this/ say this in real life

[dense obsidian]

This is a good translation.

If you're talking to someone familiar, you'd use "du" though.

[harsh berry]

well the English is a bit jibberish

prob best to write in your own native language, no?

[sleek bone]

Womit man Schmerz und Vergnügen verbindet, wird sein Schicksal bestimmen.

Can this be done?

[plush pelican]

no, the English makes sense, it's just a bit difficult to parse at first

(What you link pain and pleasure to) will shape your destiny.

[harsh berry]

yeah you're right, it was a parse error in my syntax checker 😣

[plush pelican]

Tbf, I think adding a comma between "to" and "will" would help

[harsh berry]

yeah, but i think it is valid as is

[sleek bone]

I love using the impersonal pronoun "man" for some translations too because on some you are speaking generally. It doesn't matter if it is aimed to an adult or a younger person.

[harsh berry]

yes that would prob be better here

[zinc dock]

Sind die beiden Sätze richtig?
" 1-Er sagte weiter, morgen sagen Sie mir, ob es besser geworden ist.

2- Es wäre besser, wenn ich meine Heimat nicht verlassen habe.

[dense obsidian]

1 hört sich sehr komisch an, 2 ist auf jeden Fall falsch.

[zinc dock]

Können Sie mir bitte erklären, warum es falsch ist?

[plush pelican]

Ich glaube, "Es wäre besser, wenn ich meine Heimat nicht verlassen hätte" würde besser klingen. Aber ich bin ebenfalls Deutschlerner.

[zinc dock]

Gut, danke

Welche der Entscheidungen ist richtig?

Während der Vorbereitung auf die Prüfung sorgt ihr Mann für die Kinder, =

a-Solange sie sich auf die Prüfung vorbereitet, sorgt ihr Mann für die Kinder.

b-Nachdem sie sich auf die Prüfung vorbereitet, sorgt ihr Mann für die Kinder.

c-Wenn sie sich auf die Prüfung vorbereitet, sorgt ihr Mann für die Kinder.

30-Sofort nach seiner Ankunft besuchte er seinen Onkel.=

a-Sobald er angekommen war, besuchte er seinen Onkel.- b-Sobald er ankommt, besuchte er seinen Onkel.

c-Nachdem er angekommen war, besuchte er seinen Onkel.

[long whale]

No. It's the "sein" which doesn't work. Makes you wonder "whose fate?" 🤷

[long whale]

Not without context. 🤷

[long whale]

1. "fuhr fort" instead of "sagte weiter". And you're using direct speech -> you need to use quotation marks. 2. habe hätte (it's hypothetical, right? He did leave his country?)

[foggy mist]

oder: Er sagte ferner, ...

oder: Ferner sagte er, ...

[long whale]

Why cross them out? :D

[foggy mist]

I dunno just possibilities that might or might not have been

[long whale]

Well, sure. It just gives the impression those wouldn't work, doesn't it? 🤷

[foggy mist]

oh does it okay I will make them not crossed out

😅

[long whale]

I don't know. I was just thinking, from a learner's point of view. Or maybe it's just me, because I cross out things to show they're wrong. 😳

[foggy mist]

Schrödingers Lösung No, I want to uphold the same conventions

👍

[foggy mist]

maybe: Das Schicksal (eines Menschen) wird stark von dem geprägt, was man mit Schmerz und Lust verbindet.

*(optional)
reasoning
What you mean by destiny, I can only guess, but that is the focus here I believe:
the part about how your destiny is shaped
so I would put that first because that how you emphasize things in German
and as for "bestimmen" for shape, I think that is too consequential, I think it is more about influence, so more "prägen" but you can say "stark prägen" if the influence is very strong=?? depends what you mean ❤️

Lust I think is just a more general word to cover all the meanings of pleasure but that also depends on what you mean!

Also, thank you! You are also beautiful!! have a beautiful day 💮+

[jade crane]

Why is it "Das ist es, was ich ihm sagte." but "Das ist, was sie sagte."? I thought we always used a pronoun with Nebensätze? Or doesn't it matter?

[undone verge]

not always

but there's no reliable explanation I'm aware of. It has to do with the verb and how 'dringend'-ly it needs an object, but even there, it's hard to find rhyme or reason to the exceptions.

[long whale]

In addition to what hallö_hierchen said, I'd preferably say "Das ist das, was sie sagte" ;)

(And yes, it usually does matter.)

[jade crane]

This is going to take a while to figure out intuitively I guess

Thank you both

[small urchin]

A German wrote the following message:

Ich habe das falsche Datum gebucht. Kann ich es auf den 12. und 13. August ändern?

Is my response correct?

Guten Tag,
ich habe die Daten Ihrer Reservierung auf Booking.com geändert.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
[mein Name]

[long whale]

Yes. 💐

[plush pelican]

If i were the customer, I'd want a confirmation of when

So explicitly say what the date now is

[hot nexus]

Sollte ich "gucken" oder "rumgucken" benutzen wenn ich "look my phone"?

[calm kernel]

Das Essen in der Mensa ist viel besser als sein Ruf!
Was bedeutet Ruf hier?

[fervent kernel]

The food in the cafeteria is better than his reputation!
In diesem satz bedeutet Ruf also Reputation

[calm kernel]

oh so does that mean "it was better than what he said about it!"

oh wait

what does sein refer to in this sentence?

[fervent kernel]

his

so let's take for an example that his reputation (sein Ruf) is very good
that would mean that the food in the cafeteria (Das Essen in der Mensa) would be even better

[calm kernel]

oh

i thought it was very random to compare cafeteria and some random guys reputation

but ty for the clarification

[fervent kernel]

your welcome 🙂

[plush pelican]

To be clear, "sein" is also the possessive for "its", so "sein Ruf" is "its reputation", the reputation of the food

[calm kernel]

OH

ofc

[plush pelican]

Every time I point something out, it's because I've made this exact mistake before 😅

[fervent kernel]

omg thank you i forgot about that
damn that embaressing sorry

[calm kernel]

i totally forgot about that for a sec

nah same happened to me as well

[fervent kernel]

the only problem is i am a native speaker

thats the ebaresssing part

[plush pelican]

native Germans sometimes do the thing in reverse, where they forget to translate it to "its" instead of "his"

[hushed dawn]

Ich habe mich entschieden und Ich habe mich entschlossen. Sind beide gleich in bedeutung ?

[plush pelican]

How good is your listening comprehension? I know a video talking about the differences, but it's in German

https://youtu.be/k7d0euIwCk4

[hushed dawn]

Ich versuche immer es zu verbessern, aber könnten Sie es schicken bitte

Ja danke schön

[hushed dawn]

ich kann es kaum erwarten.
Kann man statt sagen "warten" ?

[rocky sorrel]

Nope. They're not interchangeable.
"warten" is used as "to wait"
"erwarten" is meanwhile used as "to await".
"abwarten" is used as "waiting for smth (to happen)"

[fervent kernel]

does ''es riecht wie ärger'' carry the same meaning as ''it smells like trouble''?

[lament forge]

we d say „es riecht nach Ärger“

though „wie“ should also work

but „nach“ d be more common

[fervent kernel]

i see, thanks

[rancid flame]

When should one use "nutzen" or "benutzen"? I'm confused.

[long whale]

Use benutzen. nutzen is mainly used in legal contexts (usufruct). ;)

[charred harbor]

Nutze deinen Verstand.
Er nutzt sein gutes Aussehen, um im Leben voranzukommen.
Sie nutzt ihre guten Beziehungen, um sich einen Vorteil zu verschaffen.

(Note that you could use "benutzen" in all those sentences without changing the meaning overly much. For me, substituting "nutzen" with "benutzen" here sounds like you are refering to a more specific incident and not refering to general recommendation or advice.)


"Benutzen" simply means "to use", you have any kind of object (abstract things work as well, but again, "nutzen" sounds better in such cases)

Benutzen Sie bitte dieses Zimmer.
Er benutzt den Aufzug, um in den 20. Stock zu fahren.
Sie hat gestern meine Zahnbürste benutzt.```

A native speaker wrote this, hopefully it helps you

[hushed dawn]

Raten vs. ahnen ? Was ist der Unterschied ?

[undone verge]

raten = guess
ahnen = to have an idea about something

[hushed dawn]

sitze am café
sitze beim cafe
sitze im cafe

Also nur im cafe bedeutet du trinkst etwas da, oder ?
aber was bedeuten am und beim Cafe hier ?

[fervent kernel]

Am Cafe und beim Cafe ist, wenn du neben dem Cafe bist und nicht im Cafe. Du kannst am Cafe oder im Cafe sagen, wenn du zum Beispiel auf der Straße vor dem Cafe stehst.

[hushed dawn]

Also beide sind richtig und können als Synonyme benutzt werden ?

[fervent kernel]

ja

[hushed dawn]

"Es war bei dem einen Lehrer richtig,"..
Könnten jemand erklärt, bei dem einen hier ? Es wird übersetzt "With the one teacher" statt "with one teacher"

[long whale]

bei einem Lehrer = with a teacher -> to differentiate between "a" and "one", we can say "the one" - der/die/das eine ;)

[hushed dawn]

Ach so !!

[plush pelican]

I've seen native speakers often use "genutzt" instead of "benutzt" for Partizip 2, and it wasn't in a legal context. What's up with that?

Let me just list some examples from Reddit post titles:

Ab wann gilt für euch ein Tag als "Sinnvoll genutzt"?

Immerhin wird die ganze Kuh genutzt und es wird nichts verschwendet!

Eine Woche nur Instagram statt Reddit als Plattform genutzt. Vor- und Nachteile, aber bin doch lieber auf Reddit.

Mein Urgroßvater hat das als Briefbeschwerer genutzt und durch die Familie vererbt. Es soll wohl ein Teil einer Brandbombe aus dem zweiten Weltkrieg sein. Ist das Ding gefährlich?

Wie lange habt ihr Lefax genutzt?
(I think Lefax is an anti-bloating medicine?)

Zukunft unserer Gotteshäuser - Vom Taufbecken zum Swimmingpool – wie Kirchen neu genutzt werden

[rich harbor]

Hallo, kann jemand mir bitte sagen, was ist hier mit modaler Gebrauch gemeint?

[odd dawn]

Das klingt so, als gäbe es zwei Lehrer, also den einen und den anderen.

Du wirst diese Konstruktion sehr oft sehen. Zum Beispiel:

„Es gab einmal zwei junge Männer. Der eine hieß Peter und der andere hieß Ludwig.“

Ich bin mir nicht hundert-prozentig sicher, aber es kann sein, dass es sich hierbei um nur einen Lehrer handelt.

[rich harbor]

Es ist leider noch nicht klar

modaler Gebrauch ist es gemeint als modalverb zu verwenden? lassen ist kein modalverb oder?

[odd dawn]

Es beantwortet die Frage "wie?".

[odd dawn]

Ich denke schon, genau.

[rich harbor]

Ja, kann man eigentlich lassen als Modalverb verwenden

das Problem ist nicht mit lassen sondern mit brauchen, es ist kein Modalverb und sie sagen modalergebrauch!

[odd dawn]

Nur wegen des Zu?

Im Englischen haben wir "must" und "have to". Ist have to kein Modalverb nur wegen des "to"?

[rich harbor]

Ich glaube modaler Gebrauch bedeutet als hilfsverb zu verwenden.

[long whale]

Yeah, well, you often can use both, but I'd say it's like... you can't always use "nutzen" for "benutzen" (but in that legal context, for being given long-term use of a house or a car or land, you have to use "nutzen"), and that's what I was trying to convey. 🤷

[plush pelican]

So if you use "benutzen", can you ever go wrong? Are there some uses that are only possible with "nutzen"? Or, will you only rarely go wrong if you always use "benutzen"?

[long whale]

Yes. - Yes. - Yes. ;)

[midnight grove]

when do i use "mir" and when do i use "ich"

[plush pelican]

You need to learn about cases

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKCEuz6wxDQk_EIj2hea3GbXiBdXfd3MW

[leaden perch]

When should I use "keinerlei" as opposed to "kein/keine"? Thank you

[hushed dawn]

Ich möchte wissen, ob meine Verstehung korrekt ist.

"sich beschäftigen" ist wenn ein man mit seiner eigener Wille etwas machen.
Aber nur "beschäftigen" ist wenn etwas macht jemand "busy", und das heißt, es könnte er stören.

[whole portal]

Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob ich folge.

[long whale]

When you want to emphasize, as in "none at all".

[leaden perch]

Danke sehr!

[long whale]

It's a bit hard to make out what you're trying to say, but... ehh... I guess you've got the right idea, yes. Btw, Verstehung doesn't exist. Perhaps you meant "die Vermutung" (idea, guess)?

[acoustic breach]

Verständnis* i think
Verstehen -> Verstehung

[long whale]

Yeah, well, that doesn't work in the context, I'm afraid. You'd have to use a verb: ... ob ich es richtig verstanden habe.

[noble stone]

I've taken a few tips from this server about increasing my vocabulary and its working really well,but Im quite stagnated in German grammar rules in general, I thought they would be easy and similar to English but at the moment I just feel completely lost and I can't quite understand it. Can somebody help me by giving a few examples of methods I could use to learn German grammar?

[willow hemlock]

"Wer komm(t/en) mit? Meine Eltern"
What is grammatically correct "en" or "t"?

[plush pelican]

Do Nico's Weg. They have an A1, A2, and a B1 self-study course, and it's all free

[past anchor]

kommt

[noble stone]

Thanks! I'll try that out.

[torpid basin]

Was ist die unterschiede zwischen:
wir nur noch selten
wir selten

[fervent kernel]

alright:

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen

and then it depends on what you want to say

[torpid basin]

how do the 2 sentences differ i am translating both as "we rarely"

[delicate tiger]

"We rarely have time" -> "Wir haben selten Zeit"

[fervent kernel]

usually you would say das machen wir selten (we do this rarely but you'll have to refer to sth like camping for example -> Geht ihr oft campen? - Nein, das machen wir selten) or you can say nicht so oft meaning not so often

I hope this helped you

[torpid basin]

wir gehen ins Kino selten

wir gehen ins kino nur noch selten

@fervent kernel @delicate tiger

i understand the vocab but i dont understand why nur noch are being used her and how it changes the overall meaning

[fervent kernel]

the 2nd one stresses the rarely

[torpid basin]

why not just say
ins kino gehen wir selten

[fervent kernel]

works too

youz can say both

[delicate tiger]

It adds an "anymore"

[fervent kernel]

true 🙂

[torpid basin]

ins Kino gehen wir selten - we rare go cinema
ins Kino gehen wir nur noch selten - we rare go cinema anymore

[delicate tiger]

upper case is not optional in German

[torpid basin]

yes yes i am being lazy aha

thank you sir

[fervent kernel]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen "infolge" und "wegen"?

[sleek bone]

Welche Sätze ist richtig?

Ich fahre ins Mexico.
Oder,
Ich fahre in Mexico.

For "I drive to Mexico."

[plush pelican]

for countries, you mostly use "nach"

unless the country has an article before it, in which case you do use "in", but I don't think Mexico is one of those.

https://www.thegermanz.com/zu-nach-in-most-efficient-preposition-german/

[charred harbor]

ist -> sind

Or “Welcher Satz ist richtig?”

(^ This one’s probably what you want here, it makes more sense)

[hushed dawn]

" Ich trage eine Brille, damit ich besser sehen kann. "

Ich habe eine Frage. Also hier kann man entweder "damit" oder "um zu" benutzen, oder ? Ich habe es verstanden, dass wenn die gleiche Subjekte anwesend sein, dann benutzt man jeder. Aber wenn zwei Subjekte anwesend sein, dann muss man nur "damit" schreiben.

Richtig ?

[undone verge]

klingt richtig

[languid glen]

Genau.

[fervent kernel]

can someone help me translate this? "wie viel ml alkohol sind bei 0,8 promille in 6 liter blut enthalten"

i cant solve it cuz i translated it wrong or sum 😭

i need it for my exam tommorow

[delicate tiger]

"How many ml of alcohol are contained in 6 litres of blood at 0.8 per thousand?"

[fervent kernel]

ty

[grand ferry]

How do I know it's "ihr" and not "du"? Or even "sie" i guess?

[odd dawn]

musst du*

Ihr is the plural, du is the singular form.

Du = thou
Ihr = ye

Du musst, ihr müsst
Du kannst, ihr könnt

[long whale]

That's why Duolingo is mostly a waste of time. 🤷

[verbal girder]

biased

[long whale]

Well, OP's asked a good question, haven't they? How were they to know which form to use?

[verbal girder]

well, he didn't write the singular version correct even

[long whale]

Would it have mattered if they had?

[verbal girder]

yea...

[grand ferry]

I know I was wrong in the singular that is not the point lol, from the text itself in the task where do I get the info if it is du,ihr or sie

[verbal girder]

if you would've written the singular answer* correct you would have been accepted

and you can't know what version it is. you write whatever you want in these situations

[grand ferry]

Okey

[long whale]

You don't. You can't. In real life (and even in course books), there is always context

[grand ferry]

Anything else you would recommend instead of duolingo?

[long whale]

Do you know about

faq Nicos Weg

[stoic mauve]

Nicos

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the courses here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-2469/

[long whale]

?

[plush pelican]

@grand ferry As AI generated nonsense said, often Duolingo fails to give you the correct error message. If you had written the singular form correctly, it probably would've accepted that. But you did "Muss du" instead of "Musst du", which it registered as false, and it then...randomly picked one of the multiple valid solutions to display, making you wrongly thing that it had to do with using "ihr" instead of conjugating "müssen" correctly with du.

Duolingo...has problems.

[grand ferry]

I'll look into that, thanks 🙂

[misty ginkgo]

hallo,

"Zeit für sich selbst ist wichtig" Ist es möglich, nur "selbst" oder "sich" zu verwenden, und nicht beides?

[whole portal]

Nur sich geht, ist aber klarer mit dem "selbst".

[misty ginkgo]

danke))

[charred harbor]

This probably would’ve worked if you typed musst instead of muss

[charred harbor]

Typically Duolingo accepts both versions (the Sie version as well)
Unless the wording of the English itself specifies a certain number

For all its faults the German course is honestly really good when it comes to accepting variant translations. It’s only with courses they half-arsed (like the Japanese one) that it gets stupid

[fervent kernel]

It's amazing for learning new alphabets like russian or greek

or learning vocabulary

[hushed dawn]

Frage bitte, Ich finde es komisch so einen Satz zu gibt "Kaffee sowohl in Afrika als auch in Südamerika und Asien wächst". Also es wurde gesagt "Coffee both in Africa and america and Asia"
Wie kan es sein " Sowohl... als auch + ||und (Nomen)||???

[sudden walrus]

" sowohl A als auch B "

ist eine stilvolle Art zu sagen " A und B "

[hushed dawn]

Ja ich weiß das, aber wie kann auch ein "und" steht ?
"Both (Nomen) and (Nomen) and (Nomen). "Both" should be only for 2 names

[sudden walrus]

wie du siehst, geht es doch

" sowohl A als auch B und C "

klingt auch viel besser als " A und B und C " , oder? 😄

auch das ist möglich:

" sowohl A und B als auch C und D "

es ist etwas stilvoller als nur " A und B und ..."

[hushed dawn]

Ach so , ich wollte nur sichergehen. Vielen Dank ❤️

[sudden walrus]

gerne

[hushed dawn]

Gibt es eine freie Webseite, die ich beim Lesen üben könnte ? bzw. Fragen und Antworten zum Texts.

[lone palm]

Is this really wrong?

[whole portal]

No

Well the comma you do need but the 's is fine

[left igloo]

hi, im writing a text and wonder how can i say, biting myself in german (dont judge ).

[calm kernel]

Wird "Es springt ins Auge, dass" häufiger benutzt als "Es ist auffällig, dass"

und klingt das naturel?

[plush pelican]

Deutsche Welle has stuff where they make articles about news and you answer questions about them. Let me see if I can find it.

https://learngerman.dw.com/en/learn-german/s-9528

Scroll down to "new every day: our latest content". They have stuff there with levels marked for each item.

They're audio clips of news reports, but you can also click on the options in the top right and hit "Manuskript" to read the thing, then go back and answer the questions.

[acoustic breach]

Kostenlose Webseite*
Freie Webseite: the website has freedom

[hushed dawn]

Ich schätze es. Danke

[plush pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

[hushed dawn]

gibt es einen Unterschied zwischen "gelungen" und erfolgreich ?

[long whale]

Yes.

erfolgreich is what you use when you needed/expected a certain result (exam successfully passed; world successfully saved; money successfully earned). gelungen is what you use when something went well, went according to plan, like clockwork, e.g. a party, an operation, a mission. There's a German expression "Operation gelungen, Patient tot", i.e. surgery well-done, patient dead - maybe that helps you to see the difference. ;)

[calm kernel]

sich für etwas Zeit nehmen
und
sich für etwas Zeit in Anspruch nehmen (i might have written these wrong)
do they mean the same?

[odd dawn]

Ich glaube, wenn etwas Zeit in Anspruch nimmt, ist das meistens etwas Zeitaufwendiges. Das Heißt, es kostet viel Zeit.

[calm kernel]

danke

[long whale]

sich für etwas Zeit in Anspruch nehmen OR Zeit brauchen - see Harlynn's answer: to take time. sich für etwas Zeit nehmen = to find time

[pastel wedge]

Welche Vorteile gibt die Native Speaker Rolle eigentlich?