there are activities through the university. As someone mentioned, there are activities and stuff organised by each Fachschaft, there is student politics (AStA), and plenty of clubs and Veranstaltungen, etc. But you should also consider that the German university is a bit less...maybe 'isolated' isn't the right word. But German students often don't live on campus. And it's normal to participate in the rest of society, not just uni life. Your (usually very tiny) semester contribution pays for a ticket that allows you to travel a bit as well as free entrance to some cultural stuff, museums, etc.
#archived-culture-study-visa
proven rock
Hello everyone, I need some help. I prefer a moroccan who might help me further but I am accepting all help. @ping me so I can add you to discuss in DM
I'll talk about it briefly so the person willing to help understand more about my situation. So I have some personal problems and I don't get along with my parents. I'm actually a young adult (20 years old). I would like to change completely my actual studies (Biology studies in Morocco) to Web Development and Programmation in Germany. I would like to change my studies and live in Germany on my own without the help of my parents. I'm actually in Morocco, as you can see. I have a B1 german level but I don't have the CEFR certification, because my parents obliged me to stop my german learning session. It was in Goethe Institut, so I really have a B1 level of german.
Thanks for anyone willing to help 
exotic barn
There is no shortage of stuff to do. Through the uni and independent of it.
Hmm, well tbh I mean basically I dont really want to go to university but I have no friends and I dont know anybody... so im considering going to university only for that😂 i dont know anybody and dont have friends in my home country as well so its irrelevant
chrome mulch
Hmm, well tbh I mean basically I dont really want to go to university but I have...
do you think that the things that keep you from making friends now will change when you go to university?
Idk your situation, so maybe that is indeed the case. But as someone who also has trouble making friends and talking to people: I didn't magically become a social butterfly at uni.
exotic barn
do you think that the things that keep you from making friends now will change w...
Well yeah because I will be in a different atmosphere and I can participate in activities, go to clubs, contests, sport clubs etc...
exotic barn
Idk your situation, so maybe that is indeed the case. But as someone who also ha...
Maybe its because german universities domt have those things then... thats why im asking
grizzled terrace
hey anyone studying german in vienna?
tacit wolf
ireland can be quite expensive
if my understanding is correct, its about 5k per year for irish and eu citizens (not too sure about the eu part) and for international it can range between 12-20k
there are grants and stuff that i think anyone can avail of but im not too sure how it works outside of irish citizens
i mean if you want my opinion of going to college in ireland id definitely advice against it atm lol!
exotic barn
ireland can be quite expensive
if my understanding is correct, its about 5k per ...
Definitely not going to spend this amount of money in addition to the huge living costs lol
Btw why do you advice against it
tacit wolf
Btw why do you advice against it
accomodation is essentially impossible to get and is extremely expensive in nearly all cases which is the big reason why id advise someone against coming from abroad to study here. nearly everyone i know is or was in situations where they would be commuting 2 or more hours every day to college. the cost of living is notoriously bad over here and when ur done ur degree youd end up emmigrating anyway
studying here does give u more opportunities in terms of like, working abroad in places like australia or things like that but in our economic climate idk why anyone would study here
the colleges themselves are very accomodating though and they would likely do anything you asked
like ive had fees that i just didnt pay and they eventually waived them
olive summit
yea ive heard the housing crisis in ireland is particularly bad, such issues exist in Germany but even with inflation the cost of living is still lower
exotic barn
accomodation is essentially impossible to get and is extremely expensive in near...
Ah I see. Anyways not a good time to move to Europe with a nuclear war incoming probably within the next month
limpid oyster
thinking of getting the monthly ticket which is currently at 104 eur for ABC via the BVK app, anything I should know? i know there's a 29 one for berliners but it seems to require registering an address and having it shipped and I don't have an anmeldung yet, just on an airbnb and im also in the outskirts and need that C coverage
sullen jasper
Does anyone live in Mannheim?
open sand
Hallo, ist jemand hier aus Mainz oder Frankfurt a.m.? Ich kenne fast niemanden hier… es ist so langweilig…
tight sky
guys
So after arrival I got 3 months to go to the Auslandsbehörde for residence permit
is it better to go as soon as possible or just delay it a little
my logic is if I go in 3rd month of my visa I will have 2months more residence permit validity lol
plain orbit
you can only apply within 30 days or so before the visa expires
tight sky
yeah
until then my blocked acc gotta stay blocked tho and I must live with cash
kinda inconvenient
btw if I dont have the full sum blocked can I attach a bank statement I have from a Bank in my homeland
cause all the shit changed from 10k its now 11k and I cant add money to the blocked acc
plain orbit
no you can unblock it with a visa, but you just have to block it again just before the application
tight sky
hm my visa is 6 months tho
tight sky
no you can unblock it with a visa, but you just have to block it again just befo...
ill leave it as it is
plain orbit
btw if I dont have the full sum blocked can I attach a bank statement I have fro...
and you should just ask the person in charge at the rathaus but generally speaking no
tight sky
and you should just ask the person in charge at the rathaus but generally speaki...
oh no
but its only 900 euros man
its not that I dont have that money just fucking Fintiba wont let me add more money
plain orbit
if i were to guess it'd be better to contact the blocked account people to let you transfer more money
more likely for them to do that than for the ausländerbehörde to accept foreign bank account statement
fintiba is pretty flexible in my experience with them
tight sky
them mfs told me I need something written from some office
and I got my visa already from that blocked sum
will the Auslandsbehörde be a bitch for just 900 euros tho
plain orbit
email the person from the ausländerbehörde, clearly state the policy from fintiba, ask for any suggestion they can. if you need some letter they'll give it to you
tight sky
oh great
plain orbit
will the Auslandsbehörde be a bitch for just 900 euros tho
it's their policy to only accept sperrkonto
tight sky
thanks
tight sky
it's their policy to only accept sperrkonto
yeah i got the 10,5k
but it changed this semester
to 11,2
plain orbit
yup
tight sky
it sucks
plain orbit
i'm sure it'll work out you just will have to call some people
tight sky
but life isnt that horrible here
plain orbit
it's not an unfixable problem
olive summit
first experiences with German bureaucracy 🙏
tight sky
no dont talk u bitch
olive summit
haha
tight sky
first experiences with German bureaucracy 🙏
fuck them
I knew what I signed up for anw just complaining now
lol
olive summit
best thing i can say is that it works, just in a very slow and soul-crushing manner
tight sky
wait if my visa is valid for 6 months
can I just leave my appointment for a residence permit in like February
my visa is valid until march 2023
olive summit
make your appointment now big guy, the date the ABH gives you will be weeks, months away
tight sky
oh
shit
ok I will write them an email asking for an appointment and a letter to show the damn fintiba
(do they accept english emails)
olive summit
99.9% of Ausländerbehördes operate exclusively in German
chrome mulch
I am sure the one in Dresden operates at full 100% 😂 😂
olive summit
yea I think only a few in Berlin have dedicated employees which can understand turkish, all others ask you to bring your own translator if your German isnt good enough
plain orbit
in my experience they accept english they will just reply in german
olive summit
well theres still no guarantee the person handling your case will know English
granite wraith
in my experience they accept english they will just reply in german
For a good reason, if they translate to English and anything is mistranslated or misinterpreted they take the fault for it.
old totem
hi
odd verge
Hi
vast current
Hello, So yesterday I did my b1 German exam, And I think I did very well.
So I am living in Iraq and the next step is, after I get my b1, to look for Ausbildungs.
I have decided to to ( Ausbildung als Krankenpfleger ) because its so much needed in Germany and that way, my acceptance rate rises.
But then I saw that you MUST have a b2 certificate to get accepted for nurse in Germany. So I am trying to get an ausbildung with b1, I am not sure to go with my agency or I can do it alome. But (Fachlräftemangel) also exists in ( the IT branch ) so I thought that might be a good choice, they will even accept b1.
My question is, If I could get ( IT Ausbildung ) in Germany, and after 3 years, when I am done. Can I go to like University for ( IT), so I have to study in (software engineering). But do I work for 5 years, get residence permit and then go to university. Or after the ausbildung straight to University. Also I wanna say, is it possible whem you graduate as a software enginner in Germany, to work at other countries?
Is this path That I am thinking good, as I am an immogrant and trying to get residence permit?
olive summit
in order to study after an Ausbilding you must work a few years in your field first
limber dagger
Kann eine Person, die Informationen über die Ausbildung geben kann, mir schreiben
nimble iron
I wanna study at Nuremberg University in the next few years
I still have quite a bit of time still
vast current
in order to study after an Ausbilding you must work a few years in your field fi...
So you can not study right after your Ausbildung, are you sure about this info.
I can not find it anywhere on internet
olive summit
your eligibility can vary depending on what kind of Ausbildung and what industry you were trained in. For instance, someone who completed a Dual Studium or begleitendes Studium will have good chances to enter non-NC programs directly. But for degree programs which are NC or generally more desired, the Uni might require work after your Ausbildung for eligibility . Like I said, it can vary depending on your desired degree program, type of Ausbildung, which Bundesland etc. Best to check with the official sources for a more definitive answer.
Few of my classmates went on to study after their Ausbildung, but they already had Abiturs. Most continue working (often at the same company they trained at).
vast current
Hello,
vast current
your eligibility can vary depending on what kind of Ausbildung and what industry...
How can I inform myself better about the different bundeslands laws
vast current
your eligibility can vary depending on what kind of Ausbildung and what industry...
I am planning to take the route ( IT Ausbildung ) what place would be the best to gain information. Ot ho should I know which Bundesland makes it easier, if that was ehat you meant?
olive summit
check the relevant Kammer for your industry (Landwirtschaftskammer, Industrie- und Handelskammer, etc.) they set the requirements for these programs
vast current
So for example ( IT kammer ) ?
Are IT ausbildung and Sotware engineering related, in Germany?
olive summit
I don't think there's any which are easier, generally speaking if you do not have an Abitur (or your foreign diploma wasnt appraised as equivalent) you can't do a Dual Studium or begleitendes Studium
vast current
check the relevant Kammer for your industry (Landwirtschaftskammer, Industrie- u...
Oh Thank you
olive summit
think IT is for the latter of the ones i mentioned
vast current
What do you mean for the latter, English is not my first language, sorry
olive summit
the second (Industrie- und Handelskammer)
vast current
the second (Industrie- und Handelskammer)
So this is related to my industry you mean
olive summit
most likely, I do not work in IT so its not my area of expertise
but many commerce related Ausbildungen are under that authority. Again, it can vary by Bundesland. I'm speaking from my own experience in NRW.
vast current
So generally speaking, you mean, whem you are outside EU, you have to work a few years after University, then you can do Studium,
Thank you so much
olive summit
when you do not have an Abitur* (or foreign equivalent)
vast current
Oh yes, thank you for the info
tight sky
If anyone has ever opened a girokonto on Commerzbank do u remember they send u pin then girocard or girocard then pin?
cause it comes in separate briefs per post but they sent me only the card lol
tight sky
update: the fucking post has lost that shit
granite wraith
LMFAO
abstract bobcat
Does anyone know how becoming an English teacher in Germany works? I'm a native English speaker and looking into it I am unclear whether I obtain TEFL from my country (the UK 
) or whether I could apply for sth in Germany and learn there (once I have reached a higher level of German of course).
green skiff
Does anyone know how becoming an English teacher in Germany works? I'm a native ...
You have to study Lehramt to be a teacher. You may also apply directly to a school and show that you have experience in teaching, etc. You'll have less chance and a lower pay though
abstract bobcat
You have to study Lehramt to be a teacher. You may also apply directly to a scho...
Thanks!
sweet cape
Guten Tag. I'm planning to apply for DAAD Study Visit Group. Do you have any advice with regards to crafting a motivation letter? Generally, I am applying to learn more about the German culture and the language itself. But how should I express my interest if my knowledge about German culture is few? What do you think is necessary to be seen in my motivation letter? Vielen Dank!
stray finch
Guten Tag. I'm planning to apply for DAAD Study Visit Group. Do you have any adv...
hello, feel free to send me a DM and I will respond later
I got the summer course scholarship last year and can provide some tips
solemn scroll
Can anyone recommend German (up to date) movies? Danke sehr :))
swift root
Er ist wieder da is very funny
primal prairie
Can anyone recommend German (up to date) movies? Danke sehr :))
not a film, but is a really good Doku. it has german subtitles, and is an up to date piece on the current situation in Afghanistan. the woman is an Afghan, born there but raised in Germany and speaks fluent german. she goes back to her birthland to meet her grandpa, who for some reason supports the Taliban. it's the story of her interviewing her grandpa, the people there, and a general assessment of the current state of affairs there.
would recommend others here to watch it too if you want something interesting to watch 👌 it's surprising that such a well built doku, with proper subtitles, was published for free on YouTube
solemn scroll
https://youtu.be/jByCZqXwZqI
not a film, but is a really good Doku. it has germ...
Seems interesting, I'll watch it in my free time. Thanks! But I need 5 movies title for a task, which then I need to see the trailer and make a short paragraph about it
solemn scroll
Er ist wieder da is very funny
Will do. Thanks!
shell sun
new years eve at Berlin
new years eve at Berlin
me and my friends are planning to go to Berlin for the new year eve from the 30th to the 3rd.
other than visiting the city i wanted to ask few things.
*should we book tikets for the club? if yes how much before?
*anything we should keep in mind while partying there?
*some general rule of thumb?
*how difficult will it be to get into a club during the night of the 31/1
This is the club we are interested if you know better ones
Alte Munze / Kultubrauerei / and berghain
*how difficult will get into berghain especially be?
New important question if we cant get into any for the night of 31st what are other option to party that night
deft flare
Seems interesting, I'll watch it in my free time. Thanks! But I need 5 movies ti...
What range of release dates would you prefer?
solemn scroll
What range of release dates would you prefer?
2018 and up? But if it's something you think especially good, tell me anyway 🙂
deft flare
2018 and up? But if it's something you think especially good, tell me anyway 🙂
You can make a selection out the of films whose scripts were nominated for the "Deutscher Filmpreis".
https://www.deutscher-filmpreis.de/drehbuecher/
Or maybe look at this:
Films submitted for Germany for the Academy Award (Oscar®️) for Best International Feature Film (2018-2022).
•All Quiet on the Western Front (2022)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1016150/
•Ich bin dein Mensch (2021)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt13087796/
•Und morgen die ganze Welt (2020)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt7716120/
•Systemsprenger (2019)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8535968/
•Werk ohne Autor (2018)
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5311542/
Other years:
https://www.german-films.de/films/golden-globes-5/
solemn scroll
You can make a selection out the of films whose scripts were nominated for the "...
Very helpful. Danke sehr 
deft flare
Very helpful. Danke sehr <:peepohappy2:927333473033785415>
Gern geschehen! ✌️
chrome mulch
well I mean you can ask to be called whatever you want
but yeah personally I find it a bit odd
There's people from all different cultures in Germany. And even citizens of Germany without a migration background don't all have """german""" names.
neon peak
Anyone have an experience with Vodafone sim card in germany? Is it a good one to use for a long term?
viral depot
I heard that international students have to pass a pre-university education year before they can enter the university in Germany.
Is that true? if so, is there a way to skip this year?
primal prairie
I heard that international students have to pass a pre-university education year...
if you're from India / some other neighbouring countries, yes. check whether your high school diploma is recognised in germany. if no, then depending on your country, you might need to do that one year in university. there isn't a way to "skip" it, but you can choose to not do the one year at uni and do a Studienkolleg instead.
exotic barn
hello , how r u i want to learn deutsch because i will come to deutschland next year
primal prairie
kommt drauf an ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tacit wolf
i coped by moving back home LOL
lucid valveBOT
This channel is for questions regarding German education. Be it about German universities or education in a Kindergarden, for example.
exotic barn
bulletin edit #archived-culture-study-visa "This channel is for questions regarding German education. Be it about German universities or education in a Kindergarden, for example."
sick imp
i dont rly need education tbh, my iq is 602 and i can understand 90% of rickin mordy u twat
#firstshitpost
red fog
What CEFR level do I need to be accepted into kindergarden?
exotic barn
-A
upper matrix
hopefully a helpful wiki for studying in Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/studying#green
exotic barn
sick imp
Hello henbruas, thank you for your question! I can safely tell you that German kindergardens don't require a CEFR certificate. Although some knowledge of German will be required in order to communicate effectively with your peers. Fear not however! Being exposed to the language daily will surely help you improve.
Best wishes,
Arreng.
exotic wren
Arrem, do you mean the puerto rican singer?
sick imp
Him I understand 207% of.
silent pilot
this website deals with the requirements for being accepted into german higher education:
https://www.daad.de/deutschland/nach-deutschland/voraussetzungen/en/6017-the-requirements/
brisk lotus
yay 🎉
exotic barn
Wow, nice.
fallen notch
I qualify (in a few years 😉 )
brisk lotus
@fallen notch what do you wanna study ?
fallen notch
hmm i dont know
but i'm currently 13 and tried out some stuff.
and in a few years, if as planned, i will qualify
(that is if i have 6.0+)
alpine hollow
maybe change it from german universities to german-speaking universities 🤔
red fog
No 
allowed
hard parcel
TU Wien is allowed everywhere
exotic barn
so this is new.
how is this channel different from #questions ?
can i get edumacated here
Read the channel description
patent matrix
are there specific books you guys read in high school? Right now i have to read Huck Finn.
cold aspen
Karl Marx, Max Frisch, Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, Goethe, Kafka, Dürrenmatt, Georg Büchner, Theodor Storm, ...
fleet pelican
no shakespeare :^(
tight kelp
Why would they read Shakespeare in Germany?
That's usually something you only find at university level English outside of English speaking countries
Btw they also apparently read das Parfum, because every time I mention I'm reading it, someone says it's a classic and they read it in school :P
silent pilot
we read Shakespeare in English class actually
some poems and excerpts from a few plays are standard for the german Abitur
exotic barn
Same here
silent pilot
but what do you do in English class then?
don't you read any kind of literature at all?
tight kelp
Shakespeare isn't all the literature the English produced xD
silent pilot
sure, but why not read him, when he's the most famous poet in the English language
tight kelp
I'm not sure what is read now because education ahs been changed a million times since I was in school, but there are many authors that are read instead
from my experience, most of it was prose
solemn bay
Well, even for native English students it's often confusing, lol.
Many can't even read it at all.
tight kelp
that's why we reserve it for uni, where people learn more advanced stuff, including things that aren't necessary if you just have to learn how to speak the language (old words, old spellings etc)
solemn bay
Yes, it makes sense if it's your degree or something. 😄
tight kelp
unfortunately I can't even remember any title of stuff that I had to read in English when I was in school because I ditched most of what they gave me to read Oscar Wilde
quite the rascal I was
silent pilot
rebel rebel ^^
solemn bay
I've forgotten a lot too. 😄
tight kelp
translated? What's the point then 🙃
tight kelp
but why not do it with one of the million German/Austrian authors
weary mason
because the english ones are often better lil
I lile Shakespeare alot
like
hes gud
tight kelp
1984 and others have value in their message etc so they make sense even translated, but the importance of Shakespeare is pretty much tied to English as a language
tight kelp
I mean, sure, but most of shakespeare is a collection of revisited folk tales or recurring plots from all over europe
tight kelp
yes but what I mean is, what you get from translated Shakespeare is not that unique. But anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯
weary mason
well the plot is still pretty unique ^^
fleet pelican
dude shakespeare's fucking lit
he does shit with words that leave me fucking floored
exotic barn
Tbh, a lot leaves you floored
tight kelp
like your profile pic
exotic barn
It's lovely, isn't it
tight kelp
no it's confusing
exotic barn
Aw
fleet pelican
@exotic barn you implying something hun?
exotic barn
I wouldnt dare 
sick imp
Anyway laddies, we discussed things in #suggestions and came to the conclusion that having a channel just for education is a bit silly, so we're also gonna take questions about general living (conditions), work or culture of DACH countries, as suggested by you lads. If the name of the channel confuses you in any way, please ping 0x1 to get a detailed explanation. ❤
fleet pelican
@exotic barn
exotic barn
not you
fleet pelican
:^(
red fog
Not sure people will actually find the appropriate channel with this name 
fleet pelican
LMFAO people in this server
dont find the right channels
even with the right fucking name
sick imp
@exotic barn so I don't get the name. Help??
tight kelp
so the name is gonna stay education? That's less than ideal 🤔
exotic barn
What does the channel name stand for?
fleet pelican
@exotic barn help me get a job in ger that isnt prostitution
exotic barn
alpine hollow
shouldn't it be an english name? 🤔
exotic barn
get memed
exotic barn
call me if you dare
fleet pelican
call you for prostitution or for the answer?
tight kelp
yes
exotic barn
both
fleet pelican
🤷
fleet pelican
lmfao what
alpine hollow
disregarding voice chat
exotic barn
well
red fog
alpine hollow
FUCK
exotic barn
its solely about german
fleet pelican
well
alpine hollow
NO
fleet pelican
lmfao
hushed gyro
this is a thing
alpine hollow
i take it back
exotic barn
owned, solet
red fog
But then you miss all our fun scandi talk 😮
hushed gyro
henBri 😠
alpine hollow
i don't understand scand talk 😦
red fog
Time to learn
tight kelp
henßri
sick imp
hornẞler
patent matrix
What's this from
does the name mean something more than just the English translation
sick imp
exotic barn
see pins
silent pilot
it's not about learning the language so we thought it would fit better under GD
sick imp
Dammit 0x1 you can't just say see pins.
tight kelp
see pins
sick imp
ban borzer
lucid valveBOT
❌ Bad argument: Member "borzer" not found
tight kelp
one day you're going to actually type somebody's nick
sick imp
Yes. :(
alpine hollow
ban dach
lucid valveBOT
❌ Check failed. You probably don't have permission to do this.
reef notch
yes
exotic barn
What is this chat for? Discussing of Dach culture and life?
tight kelp
yes. Read description
ocean basalt
Jean Claude Bandach 
sick imp
I don't see why not, Eine. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
spring ivy
Euekswan wat dis
sick imp
Not today Kevin. Tomorrow!
tight kelp
What if it's tomorrow for her already?
sick imp
Fokken.
Wait till he's done being a smart boi and doing his math test. Then we can go back to making him mad.
hollow knot
life under the roof
south oriole
After doing some intensiv research reading reddit comments I found that you need at least 10k usd to be able to apply for a german student visa, is that true?
rugged ice
@south oriole iirc it's 8k euros
I could be completely off though
looked it up, it's around 8700 euros
although it fluctuates a little bit depending on your insurance
also, it doesn't COST that ofc, you just need to prove that you have that much at your disposal in case of emergency
that's 10.6k USD
lucid valveBOT
devkidev
exotic barn
See pins
sick imp
@exotic barn see pins.
exotic barn
You meme
sick imp
Nah, 6.
solemn bay
You did a great job. ❤
exotic barn
Aww, thank you :)
south oriole
Thannks @rugged ice
tight kelp
see pins
silent pilot
the thing with the red dot
on mobile, i think you have to click on the channel name and then there's a thing called pinned messages or something
south oriole
So how di they verify that people have enough monies?
exotic barn
Bank account
south oriole
Also what if you do freelance work?
exotic barn
Schufa
what about freelance work?
ah, sorry, I thought you were continuing with the studying topic
south oriole
Like to survive you need a job and theres a limit to how much a student can make
exotic barn
and there is limit how much can you work during whole year
depends on where youre from
you can try scholarships, but BA-level funding except BAFÖG (for EU-citizens and Germans) is very uncommon
at least you don´t need to pay for your studies
south oriole
Another q, if you get a visit visa or student visa and then while on your stay someone offers you a job, can yiu switch to a work visa?
exotic barn
Thats possible but up to the Federal Department of Employment
south oriole
Okay thanks
fleet pelican
how can I convince someone to give me a job with A1 communication but a lot of muscles and manual labor experience
exotic wren
send them a picture of your abs
fleet pelican
already tried, they just sent me a picture of their dick back
silent pilot
that's an accept to me
fleet pelican
I dont think for the job I applied for tho
alpine hollow
do you accept anyone into your bed, nemo
silent pilot
mostly just you
tight kelp
depends on the job and the way you have to apply. When I worked at amazon I was surrounded with people who didn't know the first thing about expressing themselves in german, and often even in english
yet somehow all of them got a job in logistics despite half of them not being even bulky
tight kelp
yeah well, that's the experience I can share :P
fleet pelican
their hours are shitty for studying alongside
sick imp
Find a nightclub and become a bouncer. Beat up kids for fun and profit.
fleet pelican
I honestly fucking wish but I look like a stick hun
90% of a bouncers job is to look scary, I just look like someone whos eaten saltines all their life
exotic barn
can confirm
fleet pelican
I could honestly say the same ab you except somehow your body appears to have never taken any nutritional value whatsoever
exotic barn
I survive on the basis of 3 calories a day
fleet pelican
explains why you're about 3 calories tall
south oriole
How much would a 3k calorie diet cost in gormany
brisk lotus
goes to rewe
south oriole
for someone who hits the gym a lot
so more protein and less fat and carbs
and gym membership too
brisk lotus
For me Germany is cheaper than my home country when it comes to the lebensmittel
fleet pelican
I also want to know this
brisk lotus
Can someone confirm whether or not I should pass a minimum LP each semester ?
This is going to be crucial in the Klausuren I choose to take next month xD
fleet pelican
@brisk lotus can you get into muenchen w/o a c1/c2 equiv certificate
fleet pelican
oh I know but
brisk lotus
This is the requirements in almost all unis
brisk lotus
not really
fleet pelican
how come?
brisk lotus
b2 can be enough
I never took a c1 course
learned up to b2
then you have to know how to pass the test
fleet pelican
how did you get the certs then?
brisk lotus
that's why I have a purple nickname xD
which certs ?
you register for the test and pass it
fleet pelican
ik baby
brisk lotus
sure, but there's no official requirement
b2 was enough for me
you said c1/c2
if A1 is enough for you to pass the test, then go for it
fleet pelican
sorry hun but I'd rather not push my luck lmao
brisk lotus
of course, I'm just saying there's no official requirement to take the test
tight kelp
I think he meant how did you get the certificates to be able to enroll
fleet pelican
being a level b
dusky topaz
Das ist ein deutscher Server
fleet pelican
damn baby you sure?
brisk lotus
There's a list of accepted language test that you can provide for enrollment
fleet pelican
Ik I've seen them all
brisk lotus
the two most popular are DSH and TestDaF
fleet pelican
just idk if I can get to the level of profficiency that shortly n thats whats botherin me
brisk lotus
I think B2 can be enough and then you can do a Vorbereitungskurs
tight kelp
how shortly?
brisk lotus
so even though I passed a C1 test, I still have the B role since I'm not that confident about it
fleet pelican
ideally as soon as possible
not lookin for advice on it just interested if there was an alternative to exist
sick imp
Just meme here all day every day. Except in German.
fleet pelican
ich verstehe nicht
sick imp
Yes, just like that!
median skiff
i bims 1 guter memer
brisk lotus
Does anyone know if there's a catch with the Payback karte ?
like why is it free ? and you just collect points from various shops
tight kelp
what's that?
silent pilot
it's basically a giant system that lets the shops get some info about customer behaviour
brave pond
I wouldn't use that
brisk lotus
@silent pilot now it makes sense
silent pilot
i'd say most of the people here have one
silent pilot
you get little coupons (especially at/for gas stations) from time to time
tight kelp
well you're getting discounts in exchange for basically participating in surveys
brisk lotus
so I was wondering if it's worth it
tight kelp
you're doing the same for every social network you participate in, without even getting anything back
so unless you're paranoid i'd say it's worth it
I doubt they're allowed to share any personal information without your consent anyway
tight kelp
there are various levels of paranoid
silent pilot
i personally don't use it, but i don't think you lose anything from it (except if you think the information where you buy stuff is very personal to you)
tight kelp
I know people who delete and remake their account thrice a week or so
silent pilot
Y tho
tight kelp
fuck if I know lol
silent pilot
^^
brisk lotus
well I'm not gonna go through the Datenschutz and Teilnahmebedingungen stuff
@tight kelp do you mean the discord account ?
tight kelp
yes
brisk lotus
well discord involved nothing personal usually
silent pilot
i have been thinking about getting one just because you get asked for the card at so many shops
brisk lotus
payback as well, I mean what would they know lol
@silent pilot 😅
I'm automatically like "Servus, nein keine payback karte."
silent pilot
lol
tight kelp
they never asked anywhere by me 🤔
silent pilot
Rewe, dm & Aral are the three stores that ask for it a lot
silent pilot
brisk lotus
linda apotheken auch 😮
tight kelp
i went to rewe a couple times and I don't recall them asking. I don't go there regularly tho
alpine hollow
if you disregard the "personalization" thingy
payback is pretty neat
especially if you go grocery shopping a lot
brisk lotus
yep I hear the payback question exactly five times per week
I think I'm gonna go for it
my life isn't too interesting, so what if they see that I get a frozen pizza twice a week
alpine hollow
well it's more that you may get some adverts in mail
that you have throw out every few weeks
:P
brisk lotus
I already get them even though I have keine Werbung bitte on my post box
I just got burger king coupons
über 50% sparen 🎉
alpine hollow
oh btw
you don't really need the coupons
if you know the "code-number"
you can just say that when you order
in case you run out of a certain coupon
red fog
Is it legal to put ads in your postbox if you have that, @brisk lotus?
brisk lotus
no idea
maybe one of the natives know
I'll google
but even if it's not legal, there isn't much I could do
it's like a bunch of advertisements not from a specific company
alpine hollow
eh it's a newsletter kinda thing
alpine hollow
for information about your payback card
brisk lotus
and you have a bunch of stuff seperated
brisk lotus
but I don't have payback
alpine hollow
other people just throw it in
red fog
Oh I assume it has your name on it then
feral kestrel
Here it regularly happens that they just drop 20 of those envelopes on the stairs lol
They usually land in the paper bin before they even reach the inboxes
blazing harbor
my life isn't too interesting, so what if they see that I get a frozen pizza twice a week
Then Allianz will see that you're living an unhealthy lifestyle and increase the rates for your life insurance you concluded with them!!!!!!
feral kestrel
Habe gerade auf der Website der Deutschen Bahn eine Umfrage mitgemacht weil ich mir dachte lol warum nicht. Eine Frage war ernsthaft, ob ich ein Wellnessabteil im Zug für 30€/30 min mit Massage nutzen würde. 🤔
Sowas kann ich mir überhaupt nicht vorstellen. 😄
lavish nova
quick garden
so this means that I wouldn't need to go through Studienkolleg, and my admission would rely on my marks in school/college and my school-leaving exam?
silent pilot
looks like it
quick garden
cool
brisk lotus
if my PO doesn't say that I have to write the exam in German, does that mean I can do it in English ?
lol
@short maple prüfungsordnung
🤔
sick imp
In any case as I said in #general I'm pretty sure that part is implied. Still ask your profs or someone. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
brisk lotus
sorry didn't see your reply @sick imp
I have done some homework in English and there were no complaints
so I wonder if it's the same in the Klausur
It's not that I can't do it in German, but I'll probably have errors like mich/mir lol
sick imp
Well I mean, I doubt anyone will complain if you write in English. I had to write a word or two in English every now and then when I first started, and nobody really cared. But I wouldn't expect that they'd translate the whole exam to English for you. 😛 Still in case of doubt, it's best to ask your prof, even though they really don't give a shit about tiny errors as long as what you write makes sense.
brisk lotus
Thanks, I'll ask.
I mean specially in a field like Informatik, English is expected to be around
I'm not studying Germanistik xD
sick imp
Sure, but meh. I'd never write an entire exam in German. If you can't get something, then sure, leave it out, but don't just be lazy and default to English. 😛
brisk lotus
True, true
silk moth
What are the prerequisites for having the masters in germany? Which are the best universities for computer science degrees?
fleet pelican
https://www.computerwoche.de/a/die-besten-informatik-master-studiengaenge,2902136 @silk moth this something along the lines of what you're looking for baby?
diagram at the middle should help out
silk moth
Yea got a hint and I have another question though. Is having the masters degree related to the accumulated gpa of the bachelor degree?
fleet pelican
haven't looked too much into masters so you might be better off asking a native or someone currently applying
but from what I figured, yes, all masters courses have asked for a successful bachelors first
I use successful because their criteria can vary significantly, and thats not even for comp sci
silk moth
Alright thanks 😃
brisk lotus
Yes they ask for a bachelors first
and some if not most masters programs can be done in English
which you might find as an advantage..
candid gull
In fact, at least at my university/in my department, in masters classes you have the right to demand that it's held in english
sick imp
^
spring ivy
How rich do I have to be to live there
sleek girder
I think it depends about the city, mostly because of the rent prices. But 720€ is what the government agreed upon that is enough for 1 person per month
@spring ivy
sleek girder
Yes
I come from the Middle East, so in order to be issued a student visa, you have to open somethings that's called: blocked bank account. The sum you need to put there is 72012 months or 7206 months. Depending on how long you plan to stay there.
720€ X 12 month **
spring ivy
I'm in Jeddah KSA, does that pose a hindrance
sleek girder
or 720€ X 6months
spring ivy
Or should I go to my country to make it easier?
Ah I see
It's not as bad as i thought
sleek girder
Woher kommst du?
sleek girder
Ja, ich denke, dass du ersten die Botschaft besuchen solltest
spring ivy
Achso!
sleek girder
Auf der Website, gebt es die ganze Data
Du musst in der Botschaft diene Unterlagen abgeben
spring ivy
Und dann?
sleek girder
Sie entscheiden
Fall alles in Ordnung ist, das Visum wird erteilen
Falls*
dann du kannst nach Deutschland fahren
exotic barn
If unis demand Deutsches Sprachdiplom der Kultusministerkonferenz -Stufe II (DSD II) and don't mention which level out of two (B2 or C1) I must have, it means I need either of them?
Correct
THANKS NULLY
AAAAAAAAA
WHAT A HAPPY DAY
exotic barn
What is the difference between Vollstudium and Promotionstudium?
brisk lotus
@sleek girder is right even though it's not the same for all countries. I signed a form at a lawyer's office and provided that form to the kreiverwaltungsreferat here which says I have enough money to live here. I don't need to have the whole amount transferred "720x12"
so I received money mothly and have a regular account, not blocked
I think it has to do with your passport
silent pilot
Promotion = to get a doctorate @exotic barn
exotic barn
danke!
sick imp
When's Luner geting his Promotion.
stiff geyser
true citrus
Can anyone help me, when I loook up in the DAAD site I see international programs, and ALL programs, are international programs different? are they the only programs that the auslanders can take?
brisk lotus
I'm not sure about your last question, but you can participate in all programs at all unis
it depends of course on your country of origin
@true citrus where do you come from and what would you like to study
alpine hollow
and level of german proficiency
rose cedar
Why are Zweifel chips called Zweifel chips?
alpine hollow
what are zweifel chips
exotic barn
Gute Frage
alpine hollow
zweifel is the brand
rose cedar
but why
exotic barn
Sonnenblumensaft
alpine hollow
why not
exotic barn
Um😆 bad wording
sick imp
hello can som1 explane the name of this channel pls???
sour herald
Ich habe dass es "living on the roof" war
Es ist mir nicht sinnvoll
Oder "living under the roof"
Ich weiß nicht, was es bedeutet
rose cedar
wenn es doch nur eine Channelbeschreibung gäbe
sleek girder
@brisk lotus yes I think you are right. Where are you from?
brisk lotus
I'm from Narnia 😛
Don't hesitate to post here or even pm me if you need help
posting here would help others as well, so maybe better
ocean basalt
I was told by Deutsche Akademischer Austauschdienst that I can go to another major “close” to the one I'm currently studying in Germany without having to get a uni exam here where I live, my question is, can I send my 3/4 semester transcript from university (basically without waiting to finish) to ask that?
brisk lotus
I think you better email the Admissions Office or International Students Office at the University you're interested in.
ocean basalt
Yeah you're right, I was thinking whether that'd be inappropriate to do so now or not, but I doubt that, when I look back at it
brisk lotus
They're usually very helpful
void turtle
Is the difference between Swiss German and Standard German pretty much the same as the difference between US/UK English
alpine hollow
more than that imo
void turtle
But like it's still understandable?
silk moth
does the bachelors gpa affects studying masters?
fleet pelican
yes
silk moth
Vielen Dank
sleek girder
Hello Fam, I would be thankful if anybody shared tips for finding an affordable accommodation in Berlin?
I'm expecting the visa to be issued within two weeks, I will be going for an intensive language course B2-C1 in preparation for masters studies the next winter semester. Thanks Fam!
brisk lotus
@sleek girder It's not impossible to find a place in Berlin nor is it too expensive.
wg-gesucht.de is usually the way to go.
pliant ravine
@void turtle the difference between Swiss and Standard German is quite significant, for learners in particular the swiss are very difficult to understand initially, but as with everything else, you can get used to it.
I'm still getting the hang of it after 3 months of living in Zurich.
mild quiver
How difficult would it likely be for someone that only speaks a bit of German to find work in Köln? I'm moving there when my work visa is done in Australia, which still isn't for another 8 months, but a quick Google search seems to show that the general consensus is that unless I want to work as an Au Pair or at an Irish pub that I'll probably have difficulty finding employment. Does this sound about right?
ocean basalt
Afaik you’re supposed to have something like B1 for working
A native told me so a while ago
mild quiver
yikes i'm fucked
alpine hollow
You have 8 months, that is plenty of time to learn
mild quiver
It's a good thing Australia has a ridiculous amount of German tourists then because like half my hostel are all German
and true but it's rather hard to keep to learning a language when you're not forced to learn it, but at least I have plenty of opportunities at exposure
alpine hollow
You should consider learning the learning a high priority when you want to move to germany
Eh, learning the language, of course
mild quiver
Well the goal was to move there for a year to learn it, but I suppose I'll have to really start trying beforehand if I want work
Berlin would probably be easier to get work, but I'd not really be forced to speak German there since it's so international
alpine hollow
Well, it‘s your decision
mild quiver
meh I was told Köln is a bit friendlier than Berlin and that the nightlife there is bomb so I'll give it a shot
I'm sure I'll manage either way
alpine hollow
Living in Köln will be more difficult without speaking German, just a small heads-up
brisk lotus
depends on the field in which you wanna work as well. if it's software related then sometimes English is sufficient..
chilly narwhal
also what kinda company haha some of our higher-ups speak almost english-only
fallen roost
Does anyone know much about Aufenthalterlaubnisse fuer Studienvorbereitung?
I have a few things im unsure about, and the Auslaenderbehoerde is so slow in answering me
brisk lotus
@fallen roost just ask, we might be able to help
fallen roost
Well, I read that I need a Vortrag with a language course, studienkolleg, or university to get the residence permit, but I'm worried that if I can't get into the Uni I won't be able to secure a spot in a language course. My question was, when I apply, do I have to have concrete proof that I'm going to some language course? One course told me that they can give me documents saying that I'm interested, but I'm not sure if that will be enough for the aufenthaltserlaubnis
I've had 2 different language courses tell me that they can't guarantee a spot for me
brisk lotus
Vertrag*
brisk lotus
but I'm worried that if I can't get into the Uni I won't be able to secure a spot in a language course.
didn't understand that part
how is the uni related to the language course ?
fallen roost
Because the uni i'll apply to can accept foreigners, if theyre A2, and then secure a spot in ther Studienkolleg Sprachkurse for them before they begin their studies
brisk lotus
Where are you from ?
brisk lotus
Do you need to do the Studienkolleg if you're from the US ?
fallen roost
On their site, they say "Wenn Sie noch keine ausreichenden Sprachkenntnisse haben, können Sie sich trotzdem schon um einen Studienplatz bewerben. Sie können vor Beginn des Studiums an Sprachkursen teilnehmen. Während dieser Zeit können wir Sie für maximal zwei Semester immatrikulieren. Wir empfehlen Ihnen, dass Sie bei der Bewerbung mindestens über das Sprachniveau A2 verfügen."
Well, they have courses specifically for languages at the studienkolleg
fallen roost
No, I dont need it
brisk lotus
I wasn't allowed to do it for example
fallen roost
Ah really?
brisk lotus
had to provide a spachnachweis and that's it
depends on where you're from
I think the US isn't included as well
fallen roost
Well, in the US, there are a few requirements
because the high school diploma alone isnt enough
I needed to score at least a 1360 on the SAT, which I did (thankfully), otherwise I would have to do Studienkolleg for sure
There are a few ways around it, thats only one of them
brisk lotus
Where did you read that ?
brisk lotus
So taking the SAT covers the Studienkolleg?
fallen roost
Hold on ill send you a link
brisk lotus
it completes the high school education
fallen roost
The SAT scores
brisk lotus
hmm
fallen roost
or ACT works too, otherwise 4 AP tests
brisk lotus
dunno what the ACT is
fallen roost
brisk lotus
anyway why don't you pay for a language school
learn German and get your visa ?
ohh uni-assist looks nicer now
fallen roost
Ha yeah they updated it, but the site for submitting applications still looks like shit
Well, I could, but there are none around me
Also I want to go straight for a residence permit because im not planning on leaving
Americans also dont need a visa to enter Germany, I have 3 months to get everything together once I get there
brisk lotus
You get a temporary residence permit
fallen roost
yes
fallen roost
Then after 5 years or so, I apply for niederlassungserlaubnis
I will apply every year
brisk lotus
after 5 years of working here
fallen roost
Yes
brisk lotus
years as a student don't count
fallen roost
Doesnt matter to me anyways, just more years to reapply
fallen roost
You mean once I get there, or while im still here?
brisk lotus
once you get there
that way you get your visa as well
for as long as you booked the course
fallen roost
The issue is that, I can't find any that say they can guarantee my place (that are near enough to my area)
fallen roost
Marburg-biedenkopf landkreis
brisk lotus
no language schools ?
brisk lotus
Why are you there xD
fallen roost
I can stay there and go to phillips universitat marburg
I can get to marburg pretty early from the train
Which is why im being so exclusive to most language schools and unis
fallen roost
Also the most expensive option
brisk lotus
language schools are expensive
brisk lotus
I paid around 400 a month
fallen roost
Its the only private one though. So that would be nice
God, I can't do that for long
brisk lotus
It's the first push
fallen roost
Yup
brisk lotus
then uni is tuition free 🙂
fallen roost
I think I just have to try really hard to get to B2 by the time I get there, then i only have to pay a few months to get to C1 probably
That should be my plan I think
I'll also apply to the University, that's the cheapest and most safe option actually
oh yup its 500 euro a month kill me
hey, thanks @brisk lotus , I appreciate it
brisk lotus
no problem, you can @radiant steeple whenever you want
fallen roost
Alright, you too
blazing harbor
Oh hey, Marburg, that's my city. Shouldn't be a problem to find language courses here, after all we have a 26k students university
Ah but you don't want to be inscribed at uni during the time you learn German?
@fallen roost There's also the VHS that offers German language courses, it's not as cheap as the university solutions but still cheaper than most private solutions https://www.vhs-marburg.de/index.php?id=92&kathaupt=1&katid=305&katvaterid=300&katname=Intensivkurse+-+schnelles+Lerntempo
about 260€, 160€ reduced price, although I'm not sure who's eligible for that
fallen roost
No, I would LOVE to be inscribed in the Uni, I just don't know if they will accept me. My german is not good at all, and they say I need C1
Thank you! I read something about VHS earlier, but I had forgotten about them. I will read more about it now
brisk lotus
@fallen roost how will your prove your level of German proficiency to the uni ?
you're gonna need something like DSH/TestDaF
fallen roost
Theres no centers around me
I wanted to just take the goethe certificate but theres also no centers close to me
brisk lotus
you don't need a center near you for the testdaf
it's a one day test
go wherever
not like you'll have to commute daily
fallen roost
Well, there is ONE in Arizona but the dates for the tests don't work for me
I'm not even sure its possible to get to that high of a level by the time I get there
The only glimmer of hope I have from the university is Wenn Sie noch keine ausreichenden Sprachkenntnisse haben, können Sie sich trotzdem schon um einen Studienplatz bewerben. Sie können vor Beginn des Studiums an Sprachkursen teilnehmen. Während dieser Zeit können wir Sie für maximal zwei Semester immatrikulieren. Wir empfehlen Ihnen, dass Sie bei der Bewerbung mindestens über das Sprachniveau A2 verfügen.
But I already posted this
I believe that they can secure a spot for me at the studienkolleg sprachkurse (if I'm registered for the uni), because if youre not registered for the university, Studienkolleg Mittelhessen says on their website:
Auch wenn Sie an unserem Einstufungstest teilnehmen, können wir Ihnen keine Platzgarantie für die Sprachkurse geben
And then, I can use that for my Aufenthaltserlaubnis to last 2 semesters before I would have to renew it
fallen roost
Alright
blazing harbor
then you have two semesters to reach an adequate level
fallen roost
Oh, thank god. I can definitely manage that then
Because I meet all the other requirements
Alright simps thanks a lot
Now I have to find a way to get that proven, thankfully I have from May-August to apply for the WS 2018-2019
blazing harbor
That should work fine then yep
fallen roost
Do you go to PUM?
blazing harbor
yes I study political science here 😄
fallen roost
I've never been around the actual Uni, but I've been to marburg 2 or 3 times and its really beautiful. Think it will be a good place to go to Uni
blazing harbor
yep it's a cozy little city
fallen roost
What time would you say the earliest classes start? Does it depend on the major?
Yeah, and I really liked the oberstadt too
alpine hollow
it depends on everything ehehe
blazing harbor
that really depends on what you're studying. the earliest is usually at 8am but in my department it's rare to find something that starts before 10am
blazing harbor
true
fallen roost
Yikes
alpine hollow
i skipped that one when it happened to me :D
blazing harbor
and yes the Oberstadt is awesome
fallen roost
I think the earliest I can get there by train is &:50 or something. Somewhere around 8
7*
BUs*
blazing harbor
that should be fine
fallen roost
NOT train
blazing harbor
what do you want to study?
blazing harbor
ah nice
fallen roost
Was thinking about Electrical Engineering for a long time as well though
How do you like political science?
I think it sounds really interesting to study, is it mainly history based?
blazing harbor
just took a look at some of the courses, only found one that starts at 8am
for computer science
and yea it depends on what you're focusing on, it can be history based but it's a mix of contemporary theory, older theories, their history, current world politics, political institutions and their genesis, political systems and how they change, etc.
blazing harbor
that's all for this semester of course https://qis.uni-marburg.de/qisserver/rds?state=wtree&search=1&trex=step&root120172=125385|119724|119733&P.vx=kurz
fallen roost
Youre helping me more than you know right now. Thank you
blazing harbor
you're welcome :p
brisk lotus
But how will he prove that he reached A2 to apply ?
a certificate from a language school ?
fallen roost
Probably a goethe test
blazing harbor
You can find it on the website, I thought he was going to take a test anyway.
TestDaF, Goethe-Zertifikat, telc Deutsch
fallen roost
Yes, I am, I just have to find a site to take it at.
blazing harbor
it's actually even easier than that for A2 if you had German in school, all you need are school certificates that prove that you took part in German classes for at least three years
fallen roost
Well
blazing harbor
and that you didn't fail them 😄
fallen roost
Thats actually funny because I havent taken any german classes, but the german teacher allowed me to suddenly come to her German 4 class for the last semester
But I havent taken any other semesters/years
I wonder if that counts? I could also take an AP German test, I heard that can count somewhere
blazing harbor
I guess that doesn't count but you can always ask them
Ellen Huth und Lisa Kühtz
Biegenstr. 10, Raum 02010 und 02011, 35037 Marburg
Mail: application@uni-marburg.de
alpine hollow
english
blazing harbor
yep English
fallen roost
"Dear Mr Ford,
I apologize but we no longer offer these exams. Please contact the Goethe Institute in San Francisco.
Cheers, C. Warner"
This was from the (only) testing center in my state
fleet pelican
Does Germany have charity shops like in the UK
Mostly looking for any place that could sell old furniture
Locally, not online
feral kestrel
@fleet pelican we have stilbruch in hamburg. They sell furniture that people actually threw away (it's a subsidiary of the local waste management company)
And then there are flea markets and other second-hand shops as well
brisk lotus
@fallen roost May I ask why is Marburg your only option ? do you have something there ? because if not, you can find better options..
blazing harbor
hey what are those passive aggressive points doing there. what constitutes a better option for you or more in regard to what? language course wise there are plenty of options here
brisk lotus
passive aggressive ? 🤔
He's having a hard time to find a school since most are either expensive or can't guarantee a place.
It's a FACT that he can find better options if it's ok for him to look in other cities.
I went through that process as well..sticking with one city when nothing connects you to it isn't a good idea, he has to explore other options.
Same goes for uni later on, he should send his application all over Germany not Marburg only.
@blazing harbor The more the merrier 🙂
fallen roost
It does seem a little passive agressive
I am not willing to look in other cities, unless they are close to Breidenbach/Marburg. I have it figured out now, thank you
Everything will be fine, I just like to worry
blazing harbor
yea I wasn't totally serious :p of course it's always possible to find better options but I thought, as RyanF confirmed now, that Marburg was the only viable solution
it should work out yea, if they accept your application, finding a German course shouldn't be a problem and in any case, there's always the vhs with relatively cheap courses
fallen roost
Yup, and they also have a few options in Biedenkopf (which is actually closer to where I'll be living) as well as a VHS there
But its much easier to find things in Marburg
brisk lotus
Good luck.
undone gyro
Does anyone recommend any German language schools in Vienna? Or some cool things to do in Vienna while I'm there?
tight kelp
@sick imp probably has a list of things to recommend, judging by how much he loves Vienna
sick imp
Language schools: I only know about longer-term schools that are supposed to get you ready for uni. Don't know anything that would let you sit there for a few weeks. Maybe ask on the /r/Austria subreddit?
Cool things to do: OMG EVERYTHING ITS VIENNA LITERALLY JUST BEING THERE AND BREATHING THE AIR IS THE COOLEST THING EVER. Laurenz had a book thing that had a list of cool places to visit.
Everything on that list is a lovely sight. And more since you have more than just a day!
Also for some reason that's cropped weirdly (at least on my side) so click on the link to see the full page.
red fog
Go home, Discord thumbnailer, you're drunk
fleet pelican
I think he's just happy
undone gyro
@sick imp I wanted to do a longer term language school preferably for uni prep so what do you recommend for that and thanks btw for your help :)
sick imp
VWU is what a lot of people who are gonna study there and need a language certificate do, because the same people also test you at the end. https://sprachenzentrum.univie.ac.at/deutschkurse/vwu-deutschkurse-neu/ Then there's also http://www.orient-gesellschaft.at/, but I think many courses require you to be signed up for uni before you can take them. Either way it's best to ask around on /r/Austria or find someone who actually took one.
undone gyro
Ye thanks which one did you do btw?
sick imp
or find someone who actually took one
Implies that I didn't. 😅 I just know about them because I hear other people talking about them.
undone gyro
Ah okay sorry heh ty ty
exotic barn
I need good sentences for a job application in german.
Sentences as in?
Typical for job applications I guess
fleet pelican
hun should you be applying if you dont have the language qualifications
write in english or the german you know, its the most honest way
exotic barn
It’s for school not for real
exotic barn
Should’ve mentioned that
Usually you're talking to a spokesperson, so I'd start with "Sehr geehrte (r) Herr/Frau XYZ. Ich möchte mich bei Ihrem Betrieb bewerben, da ich an ABC und DEF sehr interessiert bin und da die Arbeit mit HIJ mein Interesse geweckt hat"
This is really basic and can be heavily expanded
THANK YOU
Finally someone got what I meant
Yw
mild quiver
So I'm in an odd position where I've had German citizenship my entire life, but was unaware of it until age 19 and didn't get a German passport until then, as I'm US born and as American as they get. I'm planning to move to Köln in about eight months soon, but I hardly speak any German. As a citizen of there, is there any advantages or benefits that I have over non-citizens that I should really be aware of like unemployment benefits and whatnot when I'm looking for a place to live/work there? I know I can live and work anywhere in the EU with no restriction, but just wanted to make sure I make the most out of this passport seeing as it was a ridiculous amount of paperwork and money to even get.
Also, even though I speak hardly any German, if I decided to study there would I have higher chances of being accepted there/an easier time applying for universities than say, another American who isn't in the same position as me with citizenship?
Or would unis just likely treat me as a full fledged American in terms of looking at qualifications since I was born and raised there my entire life?
solemn bay
The language requirements are the same regardless of the student. I mean, you have to be able to understand the content.
But the requirements aren't usually that high anyway. You might even be able to get there in 8 months.
red fog
Would they require a language test from a citizen though? 🤔
alpine hollow
if they have a german citizenship
they won't necessarily know if they can speak german or not
mild quiver
I wondered that too. Obviously they would assume they can speak German if they're a citizen.
solemn bay
Why would they assume it?
Surely there are lots of citizens who don't speak German well.
Inside and outside of Germany.
mild quiver
Yeah but they're not in the majority. I've never had to have my English tested in America to register for college.
Them seeing grades was enough.
solemn bay
Even so, why wouldn't you tell them?
alpine hollow
well i guess they will know when you apply with a different certificate than abitur
🤔
solemn bay
You might not get it tested as a native speaker, but perhaps the application form asks about it.
I would expect that.
mild quiver
ye fair
The idea of even registering for a German uni sounds like hell tbh
Getting my passport alone was hard enough.
solemn bay
I don't think the uni would be the hard part.
Moving there and funding your stay would surely be worse.
mild quiver
I mean definitely not more expensive than living in the US.
Especially when you include uni difference costs
solemn bay
If you can get a job or allowance.
mild quiver
Oh right
I'll probably have to work as an Au Pair or at an Irish pub, apparently. 😛
Are male Au Pairs common? I know it's a popular job for foreigners because people want their kids to speak another language, but are guys generally accepted for that?
Not sure how it works in Germany but it'd be considered dodgy in most of the US I'd say
solemn bay
Why are you planning to move so soon?
blazing harbor
It isn't hard to apply at German unis overall. The harder part is actually studying there if you know no German at all :p
feral kestrel
You can choose an English course of studies though 😉
But that's no fun, do a German one
exotic barn
What major do you study? Do you think cologne is a good uni? Can you please tell me about downsides and upsides? @silent pilot
About german test for a german citizen applying for a uni - you gotta have a german abitur (graduating from a german school in any country) or a german certificate so yes, they do check it
alpine hollow
we don't really have a major/minor system in germany
if nemo said he is studying chemistry, he is studying chemistry
exotic barn
I meant what kind of chemistry
silent pilot
Here comes the novel:
In Germany, a major/minor system isn’t that common so i actually study „only“ Chemistry as in, i‘ll have a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry when i finish. Then i‘ll be able to do a Masters and then a Phd. Specialising in a certain field is something that starts in the second half of your Bachelors and continues in the Masters and so on.
Cologne offers both Chemistry on its own but also recently added Biochemistry as its own degree. Together there are about 150 students each year who start a Bachelors in Cologne.
The University of Cologne is one of the biggest universities in Germany (about 50000 students). Is it especially good? Egh. That question isn‘t really as important as in e.g. the US as most unis here aren‘t private. It‘s one of the ten so-called „Elite-Universitäten“ of Germany but that only really means that it gets a bit more funding. Students in Germany usually just attend the uni they live closest to.
What‘s good about the uni? It‘s in the middle of the city. Everything is very accessible both on foot and with public transport which is free as a student at most german unis.
What‘s bad about the uni? It‘s in the middle of the city. It is hard to get an affordable apartment but you‘ll have that problem in every uni in a major city in Germany.
Studying chemistry usually means that you‘ll have lectures in the morning and an excercise for each of them. Lectures are usually not forced to attend (although everybody strongly suggests you do), but you‘ll have to do homework which is discussed in the excercises. You will also do work in the lab once/a few times a week and will have to analyse it. You will attend stuff in the individual fields within chemistry but also in physics and maths or other natural sciences.
You will also have the ability to go into completely different areas or go work in a company as you‘ll have to earn some credits in just anything you want (language courses are popular).
In closing: is it a prestigious uni? No. But Cologne styles itself with being very open to the world and in a city with 100000 students in it, you‘ll find someone to have a good time with.
You can hit me with follow-up questions any time @exotic barn ^^
mild quiver
If I took English courses in Germany I'd feel like a total moron so
I'd rather just take classes in German and struggle
And also I'm planning my move soon mainly because I'm tired of Australia and I'm worried I won't do too well in Germany @solemn bay
So it's very possible I'll just not stay here for the rest of my visa
and move earlier
exotic barn
Doe sit mean that most big unis are basicly the same? What would be the diff between studying at a uni and technische hochschule? Which school have the best reputation for chemistry? I heard that rwth Aachen is a top class school. Which school would be good for research and which one if i wanna work in industry? @silent pilot
silent pilot
The Technischen Hochschulen are maybe a bit more “applied“ than regular universities. Aachen is known here for their engineering classes and if you can get there, i‘d definitely do it, but again universities don‘t really have prestige around them here.
exotic barn
I guess I’ll just go to the one that accepts me :’)
alpine hollow
that's usually a good move
exotic barn
Thanks a bunch for the detailed answers! @silent pilot
alpine hollow
dorms aren't really a thing
in germany
there are apartments that are exclusively rented out to students, but they mostly are highly sought out
which are close to the unis
fleet pelican
So generally the later YIU apply, the harder it is to get a position for a cheap apartment
alpine hollow
they are not necessarily cheap
depends on the uni
for my uni you have to wait around 2 semesters
and you can only live in them for 2 years
but that changes with each location and uni
fleet pelican
You*
alpine hollow
well, you needing about 9k euros is mainly for paying the rent