suggestions

[dusky ginkgo]

or #group-science

#g-science?

#g-science-practice?

🤔

[tight hill]

Dashes don't work so I went with Sciencepractice, sorry :^)

[sand bramble]

We really need a proper admin system for groups lmao.

[dusky ginkgo]

uhm..

isn't the reading group called g-reading?

or the channel

[tight hill]

it is, don't yell at me :^)

the channel is

[dusky ginkgo]

🤔

[tight hill]

g- prefix for group channel

[sand bramble]

And v for voice.

[tight hill]

^

For now if anyone wants to join, ping me or Arreng :^)

(I'd prefer if you ping Arrem to annoy him ❤ )

[sand bramble]

Reeee

[dusky ginkgo]

@sand bramble ping

[sand bramble]

Reee

[dusky ginkgo]

btw, should we still call the Nerd role Nerd?

and not Science or something else?

:o

[sinful zealot]

Give henbry Level A role :^(

[low flower]

I think a voice channel with a member count limit of two is necessary.

[fathom fulcrum]

But what is the difference between a VC with 2 people, and just a private voice call?

[nimble steppe]

^

[low flower]

Private voice calls are less convenient as one cannot join a private voice call and wait for someone else to join.

[fathom fulcrum]

Okay. Why is the 2-person limit necessary?

[low flower]

Because people want to make friends, and not be disturbed by others, or at least I do.

[mossy gulch]

Making friends can be with 3+ people

That is killing 2 birds with one stone

[low flower]

But one is usually not involved in the conversation.

[mossy gulch]

How so?

You can have a good conversation with 3 people

And the group feature could be something for this tbh

[low flower]

All right then, I have just suggested.

[peak holly]

I think it could help to have a channel with a small limit (say no more than 4 or 5). I can't say I don't get wentaas's point

[fathom fulcrum]

Can you explain more?

[peak holly]

there are indeed people who prefer small groups to talk with, who either feel overwhelmed by large groups (and often don't even join) or end up doing nothing but listening, whereas with small groups they'd be able to talk.
I think not having a channel with a limit on a server this size is a disservice to the many, many introverted people who can't bring themselves to participate in large groups

[trim stump]

We could have botto create temporary vc and let people set the limit

[peak holly]

that'd be a lot of work to make safe from abuse

[gloomy lance]

Private voice calls are less convenient as one cannot join a private voice call and wait for someone else to join.

Why not tell the other person "Call me once you're ready"?

[gritty geyser]

I think small groups are indeed a good idea. Because you know how it happens sometimes, 5-7 natives and high levels can listen to 1-2 low levels learning what can be quite painful for them. Or when it's 4 natives/c levels with 4 a/b levels, I mean it would be more efficient when there would be 2 groups 2x2.

[peak holly]

you don't always have someone to talk to. Many times you're just available to talk and waiting for someone willing to participate, @gloomy lance

[gloomy lance]

aaah

sorry, i missunderstood that

[neat pagoda]

Why isn't Chuck a mod yet?!?11

[snow pine]

lol

[gritty geyser]

because we dont need additional mods atm

[neat pagoda]

:p

[sand bramble]

Why is that 0x1 guy a mod then???

[gritty geyser]

idk either

[edgy atlas]

He wanted his name to be red.

(I think it was red.)

[gritty geyser]

yup

[edgy atlas]

So why are you green, you nerd? :P

[gritty geyser]

I became colourblind

[edgy atlas]

Oh no, you poor soul.

[solemn quartz]

rename science to STEM

[edgy atlas]

Not a bad idea, actually.

[solemn quartz]

😮 you say that like i have bad ideas coscker

[edgy atlas]

Everyone can have bad ideas. :P

[ashen zenith]

Have 2 channels for stem. One for homework one for discussion?

[lucid ledge]

this will very quickly become a stem server at that rate

[sand bramble]

We have a group for practice and stuff, which allows a temp channel to be added whenever it's needed. Anyone who wants in can ping me.

[gritty geyser]

I'll probably make group joining available for everyone in the following week

[ashen zenith]

😄 yaay

[lapis nymph]

Can information about this functionality be added to #282831147942281216 somewhere? I think it's quite a neat feature and it will allow anyone to add themselves to groups they are interested in (when they are capable of doing that themselves, of course).

[gritty geyser]

I'll update #282831147942281216 once I've rolled out the new feature, sure.

[low flower]

I know a server which gains activity by making question of the day and question of the night every day. I like this idea myself, and think it would make the server better.

[gritty geyser]

How do these questions usually look like? What do they focus on?

[low flower]

As the server is not language based as this one, the questions are generally ones which I can show my philosophical perspective with, but the questions can be changed according to this server's purpose.

[gritty geyser]

well, the server is supposed to help you with learning German. I have my doubts when it comes to applying your concept to this server as possible questions could only either be ones based around grammar or vocabulary.

[peak holly]

I imagine we could implement it as something like a question, in german, on something each user could answer to in german (to the best of their ability)

since the goal is only to practise german, they would just have to be in german but the actual topic can be anything

like "what did you do to improve your german today?" or "what's your favourite snack, explain why" or "what do you think of the right of memers to meme memefully in memeland"

[gritty geyser]

this sounds like a shorter version of the writing prompts we used to have, from a critical viewpoint

[peak holly]

avoiding of course touchy subject, questions that would be too brief to answer (like yes/no questions) or too long. Ideally they'd have to be answerable in a single message per user

yes

but writing prompts were perhaps a bit too difficult to create and answer. This would be a far more digestible format

we'd just need a decently sized pool of questions to fish from each day. The bot could receive suggestions and then announce the daily question in an ad-hoc channel every day at a certain hour

we could also have the bot automatically react with an ⬆ to each answer so that others can engage in others' responses without polluting the channel

perhaps the question pool could be built throught the bot itself, and then the mods would just have to approve/correct good entries instead of having to add all the questions themselves

[low flower]

It is good to see that my idea is contributing the server. The bot can also mention a role or everyone in the question, so that those who do not want to be very active in the server can be notified of the question in spite of the fact that the channel is muted.

[peak holly]

that's a good idea too, imo

my initial concerns were on how the question and instructions would be made visible since discord has no "pinned message" feature (not a real one at least), but the bot can print those and having a role for people specifically interested in the question of the day would take care of the rest

btw botto or whoever else, I would be available to help implement this. Though I admit it would mostly be for my own learning benefit :=

[gritty geyser]

uh sure, I can add you to the project if you want

[peak holly]

you will have to give me very specific things to do though because I don't know the first thing of discord bot programming yet :P

which is kinda the point of me volunteering

[gritty geyser]

idm

[low flower]

Do you know any programming languages though?

[gritty geyser]

he does and I'm the one who made the bot

[peak holly]

discord bots are made in python so I'm all set as far as that goes, since it's definitely the one I'm best at

[gritty geyser]

discord bots are made in all sorts of languages, to be fair

[wanton elk]

Heute Morgen hätten wir einen Mod gebrauchen können 👀

[gritty geyser]

Ich habs doch gemacht

[sinful zealot]

Gj 0x1 💪😊✨

[ashen zenith]

Add another e emoji so I can react to messages with "fite me"

[peak holly]

We should find a nice scrabble webapp that supports German and play it together

Or make one

[fathom fulcrum]

Yes. 😻

[neat pagoda]

Why not!

[peak holly]

It shouldn't be too hard to make one though 🤔

[trim stump]

or madlibs

[nimble steppe]

Could you guys increase t!slots max value?

[ashen zenith]

lol eyes no one here made tatsumaki

sry

tatsumaki has its own website tho and maybe you can contact the devs

https://tatsumaki.xyz/

[nimble steppe]

Oh wow, I really had faith in Botto that he coded it 👀

[sand bramble]

We have a long term plan of gradually phasing Tatsu out. :^)

[ashen zenith]

:o why

[nimble steppe]

If I can gamble all my credits I’ll be happy

[fathom fulcrum]

Can you add games to Botty then?

[gritty geyser]

Sure. What did you have in mind?

[edgy atlas]

Eyes wants to gamble. Can we take it one step further and integrate PayPal?

[sinful zealot]

AJSKJFKSFD

"All the money will be donated to children in need. Big children like the great and mighty 0x1."

[edgy atlas]

He's no longer a child, sadly.

Although I'm sure he is at heart. ^^

[sinful zealot]

put it in "" then

Gänsefüßle

[edgy atlas]

:D

[gritty geyser]

Delete because there are 🦀 and 🙋. Instead of them add sims emojis. ^^

[sand bramble]

Delete and because there are 👋 and :^). Instead of them add more memes. ^^

[gritty geyser]

I have a better idea! Ban Arrem.

[sand bramble]

I have a better idea! Ban Foxxer.

[neon token]

no clue how this would even make sense, but i think a "music" tab is due, so i can glorify why my music is better then yours

[peak holly]

#archived-media

[neon token]

gg i cant read

[lapis nymph]

Minor aesthetic issue, but is it possible that the channel and user names are shown in the quotes in #stargazing instead of their IDs?

[twilit crown]

What do you mean?

[gritty geyser]

the ID is the stargazing ID for that message

which allows you to do >star STARGAZING_ID

or >unstar

orrrrr >star show/who

[lapis nymph]

I was referring to instances like this:

quote stargazing 421614525863952385

but now that I'm back on PC, I see that the channel name is actually there

so it seems to just be an issue on mobile for whatever reason

https://i.gyazo.com/50fbac0491d9200797d65a8b8bbb6619.png

so, in other words, never mind lol

[trim stump]

Ok so I have some suggestions that i'm sure have never been suggested before, we make a meme channel and an nsfw channel and then an nsfw-meme channel

and we ban arrem

[gritty geyser]

@lapis nymph yeah, this is an issue on discord's side

[lapis nymph]

Yeah, seems so. Apologies, I did think it did indeed add in the names, but my phone was telling me otherwise.

[gritty geyser]

No worries

[ashen zenith]

add another n so we can write luncheon with the emojis 🤔

[gritty geyser]

Im farily certain you meant reactions, right?

[ashen zenith]

ye i forgot the name ty

[spring oak]

An upper limit of 20 minutes for songs. That's sensible.

[ashen zenith]

no

[spring oak]

Yes, because otherwise certain people hog the bot for hours

That's antisocial

:<

[gritty geyser]

Im considering it, thanks!

[rose bolt]

I feel there should be a "Homework" help channel so people (like me) don't just ask in general for help that could annoy some people

[fathom fulcrum]

@rose bolt You are welcome to ask those kind of questions in #questions or even #general-2

[sand bramble]

Or even #beginner-german since it's always good if you try it yourself first, even if you need some assistance.

[fathom fulcrum]

There is a small problem which would come with a "homework" channel: we have many people who come to the server expecting people to do their homework for them, which we generally don't do. Such a channel may encourage that kind of expectation. That's my perspective, at least.

Oh, but it's worth mentioning: no one is bothered if you ask in #general , so don't worry! They can just point you to another channel if they feel it's needed. 😄

[sand bramble]

^We're literally here to help people out, so a question is always welcome. Even if you're redirected from #general, people will only do it in case they feel that your question might get buried there.

[lucid ledge]

does anyone have transparents versions of the emotes in a .jpg or .png format

its important

[edgy atlas]

Which emotes, exactly?

[lucid ledge]

and the little beret on the french lol one

this boy

[edgy atlas]

Right-click the emote(s) and select:

That will open it in browser, allowing you to copy/screenshot it and open it in an image editor.

[lucid ledge]

good enough™

thanks mod casca

[gritty geyser]

I have the raw versions of the first two since I made them

[lucid ledge]

ty ily

[gritty geyser]

ly2

[edgy atlas]

So cute. ^^

[lucid ledge]

@gritty geyser

[gritty geyser]

lmao

hecke

[lucid ledge]

question; why?

[edgy atlas]

Question: why not?

[lucid ledge]

because this is a better emoji

[trim stump]

Need more pepe

an angry pepe would be nice

[gritty geyser]

I dont think we want to turn this server into a pepe-infested one

[trim stump]

I don't think 2 pepe emojis are enough to do that

[lucid ledge]

these are legitimate contributions

[lucid ledge]

hyes perfect reb

creb

[gritty geyser]

declined - emote suggestions are closed for now

[lucid ledge]

WHO NEEDS WAVEMAUS

[trim stump]

its so ugly

[lucid ledge]

its so ugly 0x1

[gritty geyser]

emojistats

[obtuse sedge]

Emoji Stats

Server Stats

25 uses, 1.41 uses/day

[snow pine]

[lucid ledge]

THE BOTS USED IT MORE THAN PEOPLE HAVE

and you used it to look up stats

and I used it as an example

of why its a bad emote

your statistics are bad

[trim stump]

and what about that gif emoji, majority of us cant even use it

[lucid ledge]

no I love it

[gritty geyser]

then why complain, it's a different emoji category anyway

[snow pine]

wow just leave this poor mouse alone

[lucid ledge]

ok delete billy

why do we need leipzig

[trim stump]

you could upload it on an empty server and still be able to use it

[lucid ledge]

WHEN WE COULD HAVE DUESSELDORF

[trim stump]

oh wait

[gritty geyser]

okay, tell me what you'd do with the remaining 49 animated emote slots, crab

[trim stump]

nvm

Yea I didnt know gifs had different slots

[gritty geyser]

oh my bad

[trim stump]

I thought you were talking to hecke

[lucid ledge]

LMFOAP

[gritty geyser]

i am

[lucid ledge]

fucko

[trim stump]

we can get rid of pink poop

[lucid ledge]

^

[gritty geyser]

true

[lucid ledge]

stats

fucked

emojistats

wow

lmfao

[gritty geyser]

emojistats

[obtuse sedge]

Emoji Stats

Server Stats

8 uses, 0.45 uses/day

[lucid ledge]

WOW

WE WERE 3 OF THOSE USES

[trim stump]

So angry pepe when?

[gloomy lance]

i think we should get rid of all pepe emojis

no sane person uses it anyway

[lucid ledge]

callum does

[gloomy lance]

i stand to what i said

[trim stump]

We should get rid of mods

[snow pine]

😦 no pls

They are amazing mods, pls don't get rid of them

[trim stump]

And flappy too

lmao flappy used

[spring oak]

We could replace pepe by the objectively better Mittwochsfrosch.

[sand bramble]

Oi don't touch billy or someone will throw poop on you.

[ashen zenith]

"someone" 🤔

[sand bramble]

This guy. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5hk58c/what_is_the_shittiest_thing_you_did_as_a_kid/db14wig/

[gritty geyser]

SIMS EMOJI WANN

[neat pagoda]

Baguette on honlol when

[spring oak]

🥖

Aber nur echt unterm Arm, ohne Papier.

[edgy atlas]

Als Zigarre wohl eher.

[spring oak]

JA! Jetzt noch mit Baguettezigarre.

[neat pagoda]

Lolol

[wanton elk]

Müsste der Mund nicht noch ein wenig runder sein?

Als ob er dran zieht und so

[mossy gulch]

Maybe something so we can also add playlists to the bot?

[gritty geyser]

Nah, never. I specifically turned that off to prevent people from queuing long playlists

Besides, I've considered removing the music commands since having them stay after Christmas was never my original intention

[mossy gulch]

Oh

Okay

[sand bramble]

Suggestion: remove 0x1 if he removes play.

[mossy gulch]

deal

[gritty geyser]

Ban all weebs.

We need >banweeb username

Arrem, I know you're a supportive friend and you like this idea.

[sand bramble]

Deal.

[ashen zenith]

A good policeman emoji for when casca is being a good policeman

[gritty geyser]

[gritty geyser]

HQ kappa bidde

[neon token]

have you even thought of making mr botto a translate bot aswell?

[edgy atlas]

help translate

[obtuse sedge]

Page 1/1 (1 commands)

[lookup|lk|translate|trans|dict] <word> <lang_in> <lang_out>

Allows you to look up words you don't know.
Example lookup: >lookup laufen de en

lookup info

List all supported languages.

Use ">help command" for more info on a command.

[neon token]

lookup lauten de en

thanks

[lapis nymph]

Add feature where bot goes "reeeeee" when pinged.

[snow pine]

AGREED

[gritty geyser]

nah

[edgy atlas]

^

[snow pine]

memes anyway :^(

[sand bramble]

Make our own snek game without a swear filter.

[lucid ledge]

when can I gamble my life savings away with the bot

[gritty geyser]

[neat pagoda]

When someone joins level A/B/C, the bot asks for level 1 or 2 with a second command, when the person does it "nah jk I don't care"

[snow pine]

wow

[peak holly]

rood

[lapis nymph]

Add feature where bot understands when someone does >getrole A1 or A2 and just gives them A, and then says "I got your back, bro."

[gritty geyser]

Post more frequent and regular prompts in #writing for beginners/advanced learners

[gritty geyser]

have you done the previous prompts?

[sinful zealot]

#memes channel pls for randomly sharing memes and meme pictures

[mossy gulch]

...

[nimble steppe]

I thought that was the synonym for #general

[sinful zealot]

aaawwwwww i forgot

how about a channel for appreciating isla 🤔

[ashen zenith]

AA chicaa 😭😭💕💕

How about a channel for appreciating Thii aaa

[sinful zealot]

🤔 isla is a gud bean

[ashen zenith]

:o chicaaaah you are good bean :3

[sinful zealot]

ahhhh i lov u TT ❤

[ashen zenith]

I lov u too aa ❤

[sinful zealot]

❤

[ashen zenith]

If you message the bot like namehistory or whatever it send it to you?

(pls rate my idea /10)

[gritty geyser]

not happening

[ashen zenith]

:o 0x1 a savage

[lucid ledge]

@gritty geyser what if I give you a smooch

[lucid ledge]

got absolutely fucked here lads

[gritty geyser]

😘

[lucid ledge]

too late

smooch offer rescinded, the smooch booth is closed

[gritty geyser]

damn

[sinful zealot]

Suggestion: smooch nully da

Y

Day*

[lucid ledge]

Approved

Anywhere goes

[mossy gulch]

Just a question, is there a reason for not mentioning anywhere that the mods are logging every edit/delete?

[fathom fulcrum]

Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it should be mentioned?

[sand bramble]

Not in particular. We aren't against mentioning it either. We can stick it in #282831147942281216 which nobody ever reads anyway, if you feel like that would be beneficial. 😛

[mossy gulch]

There sometimes are reasons why people delete messages

Out of 'decency' I would personally mention it

[gritty geyser]

decency*

[mossy gulch]

Thanks

[gritty geyser]

facebook flashbacks

[hushed nebula]

They are? Poor mods.. then they are presented with all the gazillions of edits I use for fixing spelling errors.

[gritty geyser]

mhm

[peak holly]

you cheeky basterds

[gritty geyser]

👀

[peak holly]

almost adequate

[gritty geyser]

❤

[zenith ocean]

high quality wie man sieht

[gritty geyser]

nur das beste vom besten

[peak holly]

Ebene 1

eben

[peak holly]

are slightly larger than 🇴 🇦 🇺 aren't they? 🤔 That triggers me a little

and also makes them appear blurry as you can probably see

[vague stump]

🇼 🇷 🇰

hmmm

🇴

[peak holly]

the difference is more pronounced if you type ":reg" in the emoji menu (on desktop)

[gloomy lance]

make new ones and i'll change them

[peak holly]

ok that's not going to happen

or at least, I'm not going to 👀

[worthy hamlet]

😮

That ping thing

Sneaky sneaky

[neon token]

would be making a whole music dedicated voice channel a little bit too much to ask for?

[gloomy lance]

If you ask like that, yes.

[neon token]

alright

Can we make a channel that is named Music but is secretly not used for music?

[gritty geyser]

Secretly not used for music? What’s the point then?

[neon token]

SUZU

im trying to trick him

.<

[sinful zealot]

adding 🐶 to arremu-senpai's name

please ; v ;

it feels so strange if I'm a bun and senpai isn't a doggo

hOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DRAW SENPAIDOGGO MEMES

[sand bramble]

We can't deny a suggestion from Chicoa. ❤

[sinful zealot]

You're the bestest Sempai ever, Arremu-Senpai!!! ❤

[gritty geyser]

So I have an idea: Every Friday evening at 9pm German time maybe we could organise a group that will regularly speak about a topic and speaking works in rotation so people take turns speaking and interacting with each other regarding certain topics?

(or more often than just Friday evenings)

[fathom fulcrum]

@gritty geyser The idea is good but can you explain why you made a suggestion for it? Like what specifically do you want to get out of suggesting it?

[gritty geyser]

@fathom fulcrum I was speaking to the German that's been here for just about 2 weeks. I realised that although my writing and listening skills aren't too shabby, my speaking skills could be better.

When I go on this server there are often voice chats active, but in which people are usually already fluent and speaking quickly. I find that this is very useful for listening skills and some fun, but difficult for people who have poor oral communication skills to join in on.

The idea is to form a sort of "training camp"; one which anyone can sign up for to have a chance to speak and get feedback and questions on what they're saying. This would place attention on an individual's oral communication skill, though they would gain from listening to others too.

A rough plan would go something like so:

• A group is decided on. Invitations should be open to anyone who wishes to join. This could be done through Google forms.
• Times are decided based on the times which best suit the majority of group members. These times could also be taken from user input on Google forms.
• At these times, the group meets in a server voice chat room.
• A native speaker/and or advanced learner is assigned to be chairperson of the session, also writing some basic notes on each individual's performance and how it may be improved in future sessions.
• This chairperson(s) make(s) note of speech order and keep(s) time for each person.
• A theme is decided on.
• Each person (in the given order) is required to speak their opinion and give an explanation + facts (if they have any) about the topic. If they have no knowledge of the theme, speaking about their own opinion on the topic (without causing any offense or breaking any server rules) will suffice. It must, however, be a personal response. Others may ask the person questions (in German of course); however, the speaker should be the main speaker and, if questions get out of hand, the chair should take control of the situation so that the speaker can speak more.
• After a full rotation, speakers are individually given the opportunity to ask another person about something.
• Another topic is chosen, and rotation begins again in the same order.

Although this all looks complicated when it's laid out in such detail, it's not very complicated. Group comes together at set times, chairpeople are decided on, order is decided on, theme is decided on, go!
With coordination and a shared motivation I believe this would be possible.

[gritty geyser]

tldr Daniel wants to speak german

[nimble steppe]

Reliable tldr or did you read few lines only

[civic vault]

tldr Daniel wants to do weekly/regular german speaking groups

[hushed nebula]

tldr: read his first message only!

[fathom fulcrum]

@gritty geyser Okay, I understand the plan, but what I meant was more like... well, #suggestions is more aimed at things you want the admins/mods to do. Is your request that the staff organize this? Or are you going to organize it? Or do you want someone else to volunteer?

[rapid lintel]

Wie wäre es wenn die voice channels erweitert werden? Also halt voice channels die nur limited space (4-8?) haben, aber spezifisch für die Deutschlerner da sind, die gerne mit ein paar Natives sprechen wollen.
Ich glaube da würde eine verringerte Gruppengröße schon helfen x: 👍

[hushed nebula]

Bin auch für mehr Voice Channels. Wie auch mit #general und #general-2 sollte es von #221709092325031936 vielleicht 2 Stück geben, man weicht sonst gerne mal nach Unterricht oder Practive Room aus, was doch eigl. nicht Sinn der Sache ist.

[Unrelated:] @gritty geyser in #282831147942281216 könntest du den Link/Mention vom #general-2 Channel mal reparieren. Das ist aktuell ein #general2

[gritty geyser]

Jap, mach ich gleich

[gritty geyser]

@fathom fulcrum I will organise it myself

[hushed nebula]

I think we don’t need that ping when you quote yourself in a different channel. @gritty geyser

And Botty even pings himself if you quote Botty :D

[gritty geyser]

Probably not

[peak holly]

now without removing this, add a feature for botty to answer a ping to him by counter pinging

2. ???
3. Profit

[mossy gulch]

Wat

[hushed nebula]

lol

I used to be on a discord server where they had an echo command. You could let the bot echo the command to delete some messages. Then it executed that. Because, you know, the one who requested the deletion (the bot!) had moderator rights. :D

still no way to loop though, unfortunately

[sand bramble]

Ours has echo. But it's smart enough to ignore itself. And other bots.

[hushed nebula]

found that out already. You can kind of use >skip as an >echo

(and @twilit crown told me about the >echo afterwards :D)

[sinful zealot]

(jk) A not-safe-for-germans channel please

[peak holly]

what would that look like

[sinful zealot]

the best channel ever

(I'm kidding)

[neat pagoda]

Why is "anderesprachen" in german and "deutsch-only" in english? 🤔

Or more generally chans randomly being either english or german

[hushed nebula]

"deutsch" is not Englisch though.. only "only" is.

[neat pagoda]

That doesn't make it any more logical ;;

[hushed nebula]

yeah, but it’s not a simple case of "either .. or .." as you stated 😜

[neat pagoda]

Yeah well, my bad

[hushed nebula]

IMO it does a good job at representing the mix of English and German on this server though xD

[neat pagoda]

on deutsch-only it shouldn't be though! :p

[fathom fulcrum]

It's best if people who don't know German understand immediately what the channel is for deutsch only, I guess.

[gritty geyser]

It was never a problem and we don't really see a need to change it

[hushed nebula]

I used to try quoting something into this channel (and it didn't work). Is the bot inactive here, too? Maybe that could be added to the #282831147942281216 then (since there's a list of bot-ignored channels already).

help

^ seems like it's indeed the case.

[gritty geyser]

It's been added, thanks

[sand bramble]

Post your email here and we'll all send you random memes every day.

Also porn.

[fathom fulcrum]

Suggestion: ask for resources in #resources or #questions instead of #suggestions

[peak holly]

ffu-

didn't even notice lol

[gritty geyser]

[e-mail], pl0x @sand bramble

[sand bramble]

Not even a real suggestion. Denied.

[edgy atlas]

[e-mail].

[gritty geyser]

What if it's my real email, Coscerd?

[edgy atlas]

I really hope you wouldn't post that here, you meme. :P

[hushed nebula]

@gritty geyser I need a feature to edit my latest >latex message in the chat.

otherwise you always need to test the latex elsewhere because if you mess up you can’t delete your mistakes

[gritty geyser]

Sadly, that's impossible to implement due to how discord is checking a command invocation

[sand bramble]

LPT: Simply pay attention to what you're doing. That way you'll never mess anything up.

[peak holly]

and you'll also end up doing less than half of what you wanted to do, at half the speed. And you'll still mess something up because hoomanz

[mossy gulch]

@hushed nebula I know a math server with a latex bot that listens to edits

[neon token]

shootdöner should be a valid commamd

[nimble steppe]

OH YES PLS

[neat pagoda]

What about making a Google map document where we could put pins of where we're from

[peak holly]

super privacy invasive?

[neat pagoda]

Unless we don't put the place super precise, could put wherever in the country ^^

Or maybe there's another site for just countries and nothing more precise 🤷

[peak holly]

a map with just pins on the countries could be a fun idea without being invasive, yes. I don't know of any site like that though

[sand bramble]

We make it in MS paint.

[gloomy lance]

you can make maps like that on zeemaps but i don't know how you set up one of those

[edgy atlas]

Would we limit it to countries, or largest nearby city?

[peak holly]

countries imo, or regions, that is the nearest sub-country subdivision if available

like states in the USA or DE or regions in Italy for example

if it's even possible to do

or practical

[edgy atlas]

There was interest to have a map showing from which region each member is from, so as to not be too precise: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2967293&location=Berlin%2C DEU&add=1#
Feel free to add your own pins. Password: GLaD-arrem.

I've chosen the capital city of each country for the marker(s).

[peak holly]

done, see if it looks as you would like it to

[edgy atlas]

Capital cities seemed too vague. I've relocated my own marker to Frankfurt.

That should be good enough.

[peak holly]

i think you could also pick soemthing like "Hessen" if you write it in the location field instead of clicking the map

[edgy atlas]

I'll try that, thanks!

[peak holly]

it's what I did for myself to not be too vague or precise

[edgy atlas]

Neat, that works. ❤

[digital sorrel]

How do I pin it?

Just hit enter?

[edgy atlas]

Name and region.

[digital sorrel]

Thanks

DOne

[edgy atlas]

The << icon in the top right lists all pins for those who wish to search.

[sand bramble]

Fokken Berzer picking Italy. Wot a lame memer.

[peak holly]

i didn't pick italy 👀

casca too shows up as "Germany"

apparently if you give it a region it accepts it and points to it correctly but then fakes ignorance from then on. Brilliant jebait

[idle remnant]

I just added myself to the map. Unfortunately, the page doesn't work well on mobile - after opening preview, I was unable to go back and save it. Had to start anew.

Second time, submitted successfully, got a link to future edits. It says that I should copy the link, but it's impossible.

The idea is great, but that page definitely has problems.

[peak holly]

yeah it's pretty memey. I can't go back and edit my pin because i couldn't be bothered to save the link - definitely not a good way to save stuff but eh, it's not that important after all

[ashen zenith]

I want to add myself but not my exact town 🤔

[edgy atlas]

Region is fine, as is country.

Be as specific as you want to be.

[idle remnant]

Confirming, all fields seem to be optional. I set only country and Bundesland

[rapid lintel]

I added myself :D

[hollow tinsel]

An actual Lesson Schedule for Beginners, Intermediates, and Advanced that get tutored by a Native German wich takes a test to prove to be "good" enough as a teacher

[lapis nymph]

How would such a thing be tested?

And why only a Native German?

[hollow tinsel]

That’s not the point

Well it‘s true

But it‘s just about making lessons

In the regard of the test just a little google form that has to be filled out by someone with a high German level that volunteers to make lessons and has some pretty hard questions to "pass" the test to become a teacher

[lapis nymph]

I don't dislike your suggestion, but lessons are entirely dependent on those who volunteer and a schedule is unlikely to ever be reliable. When we do do lessons, it is mostly done by non-natives on the weekend.

[hollow tinsel]

Yeah, but i‘ve seen it work actually pretty good on a japanese learning server wich i‘m on

It may not be neccesairly something that has to work but I think it would definitely be worth giving a shot

[peak holly]

it could be possible to make some lessons regular by posting a schedule and asking volunteers to fill the spots (which wouldn't in any case forbid them to make additional lessons outside of the schedule. It would act as a set of suggestions learners can sort of rely upon)

[hollow tinsel]

Yeah of course but I think with a Schedule the general ease of picking the language up in the first place get‘s much easier

[peak holly]

it's not easy to convince people to make the same beginner lessons over and over for free :P

[gilded swan]

It might work, but how many active natives are regularly online? 5 at a time maybe, and how many of them would take the time to actual invest time in that? It might work, but I have my doubts. It could work if there is at leat one person who invests that much time in it to get it going, and actually start and establish it. Because like with the learning buddy system, that was a new thing some months ago really wasnt used at all, after the first day, because no one knew how to really use it, or whatever

[lapis nymph]

I don't think you necessarily need to be very good either to teach certain topics. As long as you understand these certain topics well, then it's easy enough to teach, provided you do not stray from the theme of the lesson.

[peak holly]

yeah I would scratch the idea of gating the teaching. We know the people who know their shit anyway

and it doesn't really happen that someone ahs the chance to teach without any other competent speaker being there to correct them if they say something wrong

[gilded swan]

In the case of language learning, teachers don't really have to necessarily be good at the grammar of the language they're teaching, because grammar is not important whe you want to speak and understand a language, but rather in supporting, motivating and encouraging as well as being a good example and someone you really like to listen and talk to.

so that could be potentially a completely different person for everyone. I'm not a fan of teachers and lessons in general when it comes to languages anyway tbh

[peak holly]

to a point. It's not uncommon for people to give bad advice on the language, explain stuff badly or confusingly (even to the point of discouraging or hindering the learner) or teach "rules" that are actually wrong. And this happens especially for natives because they're confident about their own abilities and mistake that for an ability to pass them over

that said, we have no obligation of professionality so as long as it doesn't hurt, it's good

[gritty geyser]

It’s hard to find people who would want to regularly teach people tbh.

[fathom fulcrum]

Yeah, with that kind of suggestion, it's best if you volunteer yourself and start it, then maybe people will join.

So @hollow tinsel try running one yourself and see how it goes.

[tawdry coral]

[7:17 PM] MacacoVerde: We should have something like t!cookie but with döner instead

[nimble steppe]

^

[sand bramble]

#leben-unter-lizzy channel for discussing and bashing British culture.

[snow pine]

lol arrem

memes.

[peak holly]

british
culture
pick one

[sand bramble]

They do have culture. A culture of using x for multiplication. Disgusting.

[wanton elk]

Germans do that too?

[sand bramble]

Only the lame ones.

[wanton elk]

Kek

[lapis nymph]

British culture is to steal others'

[lapis nymph]

@peak holly suggested that we make the special group channels visible to everyone but only those who are members can chat/speak. This would help with visibilty of said groups and perhaps encourage more people to join, could this be done? @gritty geyser

[gritty geyser]

Im planning on making them available to everyone once I feel confident with the implementation

[lapis nymph]

so anyone could see any channel?

if it's up

[gritty geyser]

it would still behave the same with the added fact that people can use >sub group_xyz

to join groups without having to be assigned to them

[lapis nymph]

ah okay

[gritty geyser]

I removed the restriction. People should be able to join groups with >sub group_xyz once I restart my bot

[lapis nymph]

Okay nice. 👍 Could you maybe list the available groups and how to join them in #282831147942281216 or somewhere? I imagine (or hope) that's one of the first things newcomers read, so it'd make the groups known to them.

[gritty geyser]

they change quite frequently, I'll probably point them to this command:

group

[obtuse sedge]

These groups are currently accessible

1. Sciencepractice
2. Speakinglads
3. Reading
4. Python

[fathom fulcrum]

Seems good.

[lapis nymph]

Yeah, that's a better idea.

[gritty geyser]

i think this new feature is announcement-worthy

[sand bramble]

But Soo. Is it really new if it's been here for months?

[gritty geyser]

but nobody knows about it

I'll announce something once I restart my bot

[sand bramble]

Oh?

So we're all nobody to you Soo?

[lapis nymph]

I hope we get lots of ping rage

oh right, you guys don't ping in annoucements nvm

[edgy atlas]

Depends on the announcement.

[sand bramble]

Excuse me, we do indeed ping in announcements. https://i.imgur.com/A2A3etN.png

[gritty geyser]

:^)

[edgy atlas]

This counts as an announcement:

As does this:

[lucid ledge]

why is he still here

[edgy atlas]

Because he owns the server. :D

[lucid ledge]

:D

[gritty geyser]

@sand bramble yes

[lapis nymph]

I was going to say "oh right, you guys don't ping in annoucements unless you're called Wormic nvm" but I thought that might've been rude :')

[edgy atlas]

We do if it's important. ^^

[sand bramble]

@gritty geyser Please add pornhub to the >play command, we decided that we need it thanks. ❤

[gritty geyser]

already supported

[lucid ledge]

YESS

[peak holly]

maybe i've mentioned this before but wouldn't it be best if the user's name when quoted by the bot's >quote were an actual mention, so the user can know they've been quoted?

[hushed nebula]

they do get mentioned if the quote is in a different chat than the quoted message

and that mention happens inside the chat where the quoted message is

[peak holly]

but time, not only space, is a factor here. My message could be mentioned hours, even days after I wrote it in the same channel and I would not be notified 🤔

oooh that's how you meant

well my point still stands for quotes in the same channel though

[hushed nebula]

I know

I guess what we really needed is two systems. Because... sometimes you don't even want to mention the quoted person, because the quote is just to replicate the contents of the message to someone else.
Then again, instead of having two variants of quoting, one can also just add the mention manually, if needed

[lucid ledge]

MEHR GRILLEN IN THIS SERVER

[lucid ledge]

I wanna clarify, the only reason the whole things not in German is because idk the gender of server

[gloomy lance]

happy?

[lucid ledge]

YUS

[gloomy lance]

der Server

[lucid ledge]

Dankeschön

[distant ocean]

Maybe we should get der, die, and das emojis? Was also thinking doch would be cool

[peak holly]

doch could be nice

the others sound somewhat pointless

[nimble steppe]

Doch could be pretty funny tbh

[neat pagoda]

Problem is we'd need dem/den/des with der/die/das ^^'

[gritty geyser]

why those in particular

[neat pagoda]

To correct someone whenever they get articles wrong, I suppose

[distant ocean]

Yeah my comment was to above when they were saying something about the gender of a noun, but could get messy like Guppi was saying

[gritty geyser]

you could just use M, F, N for masculine, feminine and neuter

[wanton elk]

Ketchup emoji

[lapis nymph]

@gritty geyser is it possible for the bot to detect multiple command calls in one message or would this be awkward to implement? Alternatively, could commands like "assign" have a "mass-assign" command when there is more than one person?

[gritty geyser]

yeah sure, I can add that

[lapis nymph]

thanks, but which suggestion?

[gritty geyser]

a mass assign thing

[lapis nymph]

okay, makes sense, that's probably cleaner

thanks 👍

[peak holly]

what about a >table command for the bot to achieve something similar to what MedalBot does in this example?

it could be useful for #science stuff and for grammar things

the command could be like:

table header1, header2, header3
value1, value2, value 3
etc1, etc2, etc 3
for example

[gritty geyser]

parsing that would be difficult since you're implying that these arguments could have an arbitrary length

[mossy gulch]

can't you use quotes for that

[peak holly]

^
or use the line breaks. The first set is the column titles and the others are data, one row per line

commas are more handy than quotes imo, or anyway a single character that's unlikely to be used in the data, like |

[ashen zenith]

0x0 make the daily ñ rep reset at midnight German time or something D: on the weekends if I do it late one day that dominoes onto the other days dya kno Wat I'm sayin

[sand bramble]

Denied.

B responsible and do it on time. Daz da hole point.

[edgy atlas]

Reduce it to a sidereal day, because you're a nerd.

[neon token]

first world problems

[edgy atlas]

Earth world problems.

[crude orbit]

suggestion: don't remove meme suggestions 😦

esp. when meme admins agree to them

[sinful zealot]

pls add a smelly memer role

• a "pet buns" command

;^)

[sinful zealot]

a "good boi" or "good bun" role for good beans

or "good bean"

please

we must praise the kind beings of this earth !!!

[gritty geyser]

^ *kind beans

[sinful zealot]

THANK YOU

[sand bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248530603165614080/444116860343156736/unknown.png
Suggestion: remove last line.

[sinful zealot]

A >suki command for the bot, telling him you love him in japanese, but romanised cause we're weebs!!!

[crude orbit]

shootdog @everyone
-> u hev shot eberywans doggo u nerd

[sinful zealot]

Don't listen to Callum

[finite mural]

Make me more motivated to learn German!

[untold zinc]

Please, if you could, add a music channel

[gloomy lance]

you mean #archived-media ?

[untold zinc]

@gloomy lance as a voice channel. other servers have such a thing.

[sinful zealot]

you can just add our bot to the vc and ignore ppl who talk 🤷

works just as well

[neon token]

Music channel

[digital sorrel]

No.

[sand bramble]

Bring back shitbot.

[lucid ledge]

bring back tatsu

[digital sorrel]

Bring back memes

[lucid ledge]

only reason I used this server

[gritty geyser]

Tatsu is still here though

[sand bramble]

Give us another Tatsu. We need 2.

[fathom fulcrum]

Why not 10?

[lucid ledge]

Maybe more

Imagine...

[fathom fulcrum]

1 Tatsu for every member.

[edgy atlas]

I hope that 🐱 calls his Catsu.

[peak holly]

I'll call mine ttsmr

[untold zinc]

we should add VC channels limited for 2, 4, and 6 people for example, for better practicing.

[sinful zealot]

We could add VC channels called fast math
Where we listen to analysis lectures, but sped up 2x

[digital sorrel]

Yes.

[sinful zealot]

Analysis lectures sped up 2x are the best life lessons

[fathom fulcrum]

I agree on the sped up lecture channels.

We should have one for each topic and have them run 24/7.

[barren quest]

What about a translate bot?

And maybe some message to new members it is there if added?

[edgy atlas]

help lookup

[obtuse sedge]

Page 1/1 (1 commands)

[lookup|lk|translate|trans|dict] <word> <lang_in> <lang_out>

Allows you to look up words you don't know.
Example lookup: >lookup laufen de en

lookup info

List all supported languages.

Use ">help command" for more info on a command.

[edgy atlas]

@barren quest

[barren quest]

Oh. Thanks.

You could send a message or something on a join so they can know.

[fathom fulcrum]

It probably doesn't make sense to add a join message just for a random bot feature. Especially since, with translations, you're better off just going to dict.cc or similar and looking up the word manually.

But perhaps it's worthwhile to add a note in #282831147942281216 or #botchannel or something like that, explaining how people can see what features the bot has.

[edgy atlas]

I've updated #botchannel to include >help in the channel description. I'll talk to Botto to see if he can update #282831147942281216, too.

[sand bramble]

bandog command

I'm gonna need it soon.

[lapis nymph]

A command that revives someone's dog so you can shoot it again.

[north oar]

What about having movie nights? Plot twist, the movies are in german. gasps

[edgy atlas]

Plot twist, the films are in Dutch with German subtitles.

[mossy gulch]

Yesss

[gritty geyser]

iyes

yes

[idle remnant]

We could set the bot to correct all the occurences of "Sinn machen" to "Sinn ergeben" ;)

[mossy gulch]

A bot can't edit peoples messages

[idle remnant]

To answer with a correction I mean

[edgy atlas]

Bots are only allowed to respond if called.

[sand bramble]

Sez who

[digital sorrel]

Logic

[peak holly]

make the presence of "Sinn machen" in a message call the bot then

[edgy atlas]

The message would have to start with >.

And a command.

[peak holly]

is it mandatory to have a prefix for bot calls?

[edgy atlas]

I believe so, though I could be wrong. Botto is the best person to ask.

[idle remnant]

In the rules, there is a point:
"● Talks about politics of the DACH countries (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) are allowed in #german-only and #voice-chat. Please keep discussions about politics out of #general and #general-2 ."

I'm not going to oppose it (I'm not interested in discussing politics at all), but may I ask, what is the rationale of this rule? I'm just curious

[edgy atlas]

Politics can get heated, especially when viewing the current political climate. Since learning about DACH politics is a part of learning German, such as for those wishing to move to one such country, we allow it in certain channels. It's still moderated to avoid conflict.

[idle remnant]

👌 makes sense, thanks

[peak holly]

Btw the rules should be updated to allow discussion in #archived-culture-study-visa which is probably the most relevant channel for such things

[mossy gulch]

A message doesn't necessarily has to start with > to have the bot listen for it

[gritty geyser]

They're not talking about listening to a message, they're discussing whether it's allowed to respond without a clear invocation context

[nocturne yarrow]

WM kicktipp runde?

Nur mal so Vorschlag

[digital sorrel]

Make this an emote

[gritty geyser]

no

[gloomy lance]

🇹 🇭 🇮 🇸

there you go

[digital sorrel]

....

[idle remnant]

Which of these two images do you suggest as a new emote? 😮

[neon token]

Botto should make an if statement, if u already have a cefr level and You want to set a new one, remove the old and add the new.

Make it so when someone who has a role already remove the current one and add the new one, example, I have a role and I want b role, I write gr level b and my level a gets removed whilst level b gets added

Makes it easier for everyone and there’s no chance of abusing double cefr roles

[edgy atlas]

I like that idea, I'll pass it on to him.

[sand bramble]

Also make it give the user a test to see if they deserve it.

[edgy atlas]

Use

import webbrowser as web
web.open("https://www.goethe.de/en/spr/kup/tsd.html")

(Joking, obviously.)

[ocean rapids]

I would love a command for the bot ">hug [Name]" which gives someone a caring hug 😃

[edgy atlas]

Just ping me.

[ocean rapids]

What do you mean with ping?

[edgy atlas]

@ocean rapids

[ocean rapids]

Oh!

[edgy atlas]

Ping. ^

Pin/mention/tag.

[ocean rapids]

@edgy atlas Wouldn't it be nice to hav a hug command for the bot which hugs someone?

*have

">motivate [Name]" would be cool too if someone needs some motivation when feeling down 😄 @edgy atlas

Why emo

Just motivation

[worldly sentinel]

what's the bot that does the star gazing stuff

it's really neat

[gritty geyser]

Make it mandatory for Daniel to write tl;dr after his every monologue

[old meadow]

lmao

[digital sorrel]

I second this

[sand bramble]

Sport channel for us sporty people that watch and do sports in their free time.

[peak holly]

sport is not for nerds

so no

[edgy atlas]

Chess is a sport. Checkmate.

[peak holly]

i know, i don't need to check, mate

[wanton elk]

Please change the names to general and general2 again <3

[sand bramble]

Denied. We're gonna start enforcing German in them next month. Hashtag germanserver.

[mossy gulch]

Amazing

Sometimes you need to force people to make them accomplish something great

[peak holly]

like building the pyramids

[sand bramble]

My thoughts exactly. Look at all the Bs, Cs and Natives always speaking English in #general. Shame on them.

[mossy gulch]

Add mathbot to this server while the latex command is gone

[tacit relic]

2 people VC channels for shy members :D

[gritty geyser]

YESS

[lucid geode]

Add Weltmeisterschaft channel

[south pagoda]

^

[umbral blaze]

Add option to force people to talk or be permabanned for shy members

[old granite]

I second that

[gritty geyser]

Teri is raging

That rule is the best, I hate people who don't talk - so rude 😠

COUGH COUGH

sneeze

Oh look who's talking

Sorry I got a cold

HmmMmm

Hihihi

I mean hehehe

Hihihi is danish for hehehe.... confusing

[umbral blaze]

Xaxaxaxaxaxaxa

Sometimes im not sure whether teri is a person or just a chatbot

We will never know

The chatbot is deleting its comments

It tries to erase its traces

[gritty geyser]

...

A very developed bot... we humans might be eradicated before we anticipated it to happen

[sand bramble]

Add mathbot to this server while the latex command is gone
Denied.
Add Weltmeisterschaft channel
Maybe if there's a need. ATM there hasn't been much talk about it anyway, so #general can handle the convos just fine IMO
Add option to force people to talk or be permabanned for shy members
Accepted!

[gritty geyser]

You missed this one

2 people VC channels for shy members :D

I'm certain you could just call each other then

[umbral blaze]

But wheres the fun in that?

[peak holly]

then with 4 slots instead of 2

[edgy atlas]

Create a group. ^

[gritty geyser]

I mean you wouldn't randomly call someone to talk with each other, instead you'd probably enter the 1 on 1 group and await somebody, that would be willing to talk with you?

[peak holly]

yeah that would be the point

entering a channel is not just to talk with somebody, but before that even happens it acts as a public marker that you're available to talk with whomever enters

[gritty geyser]

A way for unconfident people (like moi) to meet other people and have conversations, without fearing for a bunch of other people randomly screaming and making you uncomfortable

[peak holly]

or singing or making noise or whatever

[gritty geyser]

Like a medium between two people to connect em ^_^

it wasn't my proposal tho'

I was on another language learning server and they had a one on one vc channel. It was really nice to have it :D

They also use it in singing servers, because it allows for people to have 1 on 1 practice sessions, without constantly thinking that somebody might enter and make fun of your "horrible" singing ability

[lucid geode]

I would like that

[mossy gulch]

@edgy atlas Since of when are we allowed to create groups?

[obtuse sedge]

0x1

Quoted by Casca

Hello friends, I just wanted to let you know that the new group commands are now available to everyone. You can now simply join a group by typing >sub XYZ.
A list of available groups can be displayed by typing >group. For more information in regard to groups and how they work, write >help group.
I'm open to feedback and improvements. Enjoy your day ❤

Apr 22, 2018, 12:08 PM

[gritty geyser]

He was probably referring to group DMs Or not

[peak holly]

does that allow us mortals to create groups tho? Is a group created if it doesn't exist already? 🤔

[sand bramble]

No sir.

You ask us and if there's enough interest we don't really have a reason to say no. But it's mod only to prevent abuse.

[lucid geode]

WM-Gruppe?:D

I was kicked from #german-only 😦

[gritty geyser]

Kicked?

[lucid geode]

Figuratively

It would have been rude to carry on:(

[sand bramble]

Get 6 people interested in one and sure.

[tawdry talon]

Wo ist die WM-Gruppe

[distant ocean]

or at least a Sport channel ^^

I would be interested

[tacit relic]

how can i join

[lucid geode]

Wir mussen es zuerst schaffen

[gritty geyser]

we want a wm kanal

!!

:D

[gritty geyser]

Ich unterstütze euch

macht es aber bitte deutsch-only

[obtuse sedge]

Arrem#4798 asks: Super official WM poll.

1⃣: I'd like a WM channel.
2⃣: I'd like a German only WM channel.
3⃣: I wouldn't mind adding people to the channel.
4⃣: I like memes.
5⃣: Can we just do science instead?

[sand bramble]

(Ignore option 3, I'm silly and forgot that users can join groups on their own now.)

[peak holly]

(it might be helpful to write out the acronym in full form at least in the poll title 🙄 )

I do want a WankyMemes channel

[sand bramble]

Nah.

[peak holly]

faul

[sand bramble]

Anyway for all you WM memers, the way groups work is that the channels aren't always open. They can be opened with >group start <groupname>, however only a group mod can do that. So if you'd be willing to babysit that, do react with 3 after all.
PS This is like the shittiest and most disorganized poll I've ever created.

Speaking of football, you can all do >sub Soccerwm in #botchannel or wherever to subscribe to the meme football group you asked for. Try not to hate me for the name too much. Do let us know if you want to moderate it, because a group with no moderators is pretty much useless. >help group should give you more info about how the system works. Have fun, you soccer lovers.

[sand bramble]

@lucid geode @tawdry talon @gritty geyser @gritty geyser @twilit crown @snow pine
Y'all said you wanted a channel. So do read my shitty and incoherent mumbling up above for some info and join your meme group.

[lucid geode]

Yayyy

I can mod

[sonic surge]

idea:

word of the day channel

to enforce vocab learning

maybe a pic as a background to make it not boring

background for the word, that it

ooh you could do it in like the fraktur font too

[lucid ledge]

Who would keep it up

It's been discussed before

[idle remnant]

"to enforce vocab learning" is it at all possible?

[idle minnow]

Well it’s sharing new vocabulary that someone might not already know. It’s more of a server for integrating new vocabulary than enforcing it, but I believe I understand what they are trying to say.

[idle remnant]

Honestly, one word per day is a very low number anyway (you'd need 10 years to learn 3.5k).

[gritty geyser]

Use Memrise or Duolingo, why bother making other people to find a word for you every day?

[gritty geyser]

As others have said, the matter has been discussed before. Besides, coming up with suitable words is a challenge since everyone has a different level of proficiency

[sinful zealot]

Force everyone to learn the meaning of "Backpfeifengesicht". Ban everyone who doesn't know the word after 24 hours. Most important word in German. I am Backpfeifengesicht.

[distant ocean]

Perhaps you could add a command the bot would give you a new word to learn if you called it. >wordoftheday it could pull from a list of words

[fathom fulcrum]

That seems good.

But there are probably already plenty of places to find that.

Like you could sub to an English or other language word of the day and use that to learn the German versions.

Then you get multiple words out if it.

[idle remnant]

According to this page, there're already online services that can serve you a German word of they day if you need it: https://deutschlernen-blog.de/blog/2010/05/10/woerter-des-tages/

[wraith sierra]

just because there are other places to find words doesn't mean you should not have a word of the day channel here. there are other places you can find resources and practice materials, but you curate a list of them here on Discord. the point is to put everything in one place. make a channel for a word a day and learners will benefit from this server better. the only issue with this would be the challenge to come up with a word everyday, but I think there should be people willing to take up this challenge

[sinful zealot]

We need a ketchup emoji :ketchup:

if i draw a bottle of ketchup can we have that as emoji

[sand bramble]

Day 1: Apfel
Day 2: Memes
Day 3: Pferd
Day 4: Österreich
Day 5: Wien
Day 6: Schnitzel
Day 7:
Day 8: What do you mean day 7 wasn't a word?
Day 9: Informatik
Day 10: Analysis
Day 11: Lernen
Day 12: Ableitung
I could see this catching on.

[fathom fulcrum]

@wraith sierra there is more to it than that though. These things don't just happen by themselves; not just coming up with words, but implementing and monitoring and moderating it. You have to realize that it's other people doing hard work so that some people can have an unnecessary convenience.

And it's fine if someone wants to do that.

But it's not fair to act like it should be expected either.

After all, who knows if people would even use it. If they're unwilling to spend five minutes finding a word of the day website elsewhere, are they going to use this feature?

[peak holly]

I mean, you could just do it yourself in a channel like #writing or #general-2. There's nothing stopping such initiatives from the users and there's not very much that a mod could do over a normal user to help this particular thing

except maybe making a specific channel for it, but that would probably be overkill. Many things here were born out of initiative and then, once they gained traction, the mod supported them further if needed

[fathom fulcrum]

Yes, I 100% agree with users putting in initiative to create these kinds of programs and resources. It can always be adapted to something else later if it happens to catch on. That's how almost every feature in this server has come into existence, after all.

[peak holly]

#science was just us talking about coding so much that we annoyed other people and needed a place to be restricted to :')

[fathom fulcrum]

#beginner-german and the temp-channels are good examples too.

Oh, but I will add that we should add word of the day websites to the resource list, lol.

[wraith sierra]

These things don't just happen by themselves; not just coming up with words, but implementing and monitoring and moderating it.

if the channel is unlocked for the public and only open to mods, teachers, mentors or whatever you call them on this server, you won't have to monitor and moderate it. if you are giving learners a place to learn German and adding resources and materials into it for them to benefit, it will be better for them. offering an organized channel with vocabulary content is much more helpful. I know they will use it, you can visit other servers where this "word of the day" is a thing. I already realize people do hard work for others. this is not an obligation for them, it's a voluntary work. all I am saying is if some people are willing to do this, they should do it. denying this suggestion "because there are other places" is unjustified in my opinion.

[sinful zealot]

I think Base meant monitoring the function of the "word of the day" thing

[peak holly]

denying this suggestion "because there are other places" is unjustified in my opinion
what about all the other reasons that were mentioned? It's not like it's the only proposed reason not to do it. Also you seem to have ignored what Base and I wrote

[fathom fulcrum]

No one is denying the suggestion. They are just offering opposing considerations. But yeah, @wraith sierra , feel free to start a word of the day program.

[sand bramble]

Just stressing that we do in fact support and encourage user initiatives, as long as they don't break any rules, so yeah, if you want a word of the day, go ahead and make one. 😉

[sinful zealot]

Admin-senpai, would mod team add a ketchup emoji is I drew one?

if*

if yes, I'll draw the BEST ketcfhup bottle ever

[edgy atlas]

We have a free slot, so I would add it for you until it possibly gets replaced in the future.

[sand bramble]

No go away Cosco the question wasn't for you.

[fathom fulcrum]

Replace all emojis with different ketchups.

[sand bramble]

Yaaaaas Chicoaoaoa.

[edgy atlas]

I know it wasn't, but that doesn't mean that I cannot offer it.

Especially since you were slow. :P

[sinful zealot]

OKIES I'LL DRAW ONE I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I'M DONE

I'm excited, i hope everyone will like it

[tribal wigeon]

Can we have a board like #grammar ?

[sand bramble]

We believe #questions is enough. It's not too busy and it's a nice central place to get all sorts of questions answered.

[deft sierra]

Can someone suggest me some Tipps or books to improve speaking skills ? (Deutsch)

[mossy gulch]

Please ask this in #resources or #questions

[nocturne reef]

da jetzt schon mehrmals trolls/nervige kids im voice chat waren, fände ich es sinnvoll rechte einzuführen die erst vergeben werden müssen oder automatisch nach einer bestimten zeit zugeteilt werden um in den voice chat zu joinen.

wenn es geht könnte man ja einen freien channel haben und die anderen nur für "verifizierte non-trolls"

[lime sparrow]

ja den kampf kenne ich

ich glaub nicht, dass man den gewinnen kann

(weil man irgendwie entscheiden muss, wer denn jetzt die rolle kriegen soll und das führt schnell zu ausgeschlossenheitsgefühlen etc)

[gritty geyser]

Am besten wäre es, solche Trolls in Zukunft an uns weiterzuleiten, dann schalten wir die stumm.

Alles andere würde, wie schon gesagt, zu einer gewissen Ausgrenzung anderer führen

[nocturne reef]

soll ich dann jedes mal mods anpingen um die zu melden? finde das zwar recht nervig, wahrscheinlich für beide seiten, aber okay..

[lime sparrow]

für etwas sollten die Mods ja auch gut sein :P

[gritty geyser]

We can just mute trolls until a mod comes to remove them :D

@nocturne reef Naja, solche Leute brauchen wir hier halt nicht, dann kann ich sie auch gleich kicken

[lucid ledge]

nuclearpotat - Today at 17:47
we should have a weeb/kpop channel to isolate the infected /s

[gritty geyser]

sure /s

[sinful zealot]

/s ??

[gritty geyser]

urban /s

[obtuse sedge]

Your search for /s returned the following:

Definition

Indicates the presence of sarcasm.

Example

Man, I wish George Bush could take another 4 years, especially after his work on torture- who'd have thought such a fair and moral decision could have been made?

/s

[sinful zealot]

OHHH

[terse prism]

Why don’t we have that Gastronomie thing like the Swedish server, it’s really nice, at least we have Anna here👀

[gritty geyser]

Would you mind elaborating on that?

[terse prism]

How does one elaborate on that, pardon?

[spare jay]

maybe he means what Gastronomie means

[sand bramble]

Pretty sure he already knows that. What he means is that he'd like more details. Just naming something and referencing a different server doesn't really give much details about what's being asked for.

[digital sorrel]

They want a food channel.

[sinful zealot]

➕

[terse prism]

I thought it’s already obvious „Gastronomie“ a „channel“ where people can share pictures - for example-of the food they cook or eat or enjoy or whatever

💃🏻

Talk about what they’re gonna eat today, their favourites,..
The nicest aspect is the cultural one.~

Also,..such a genuine atmosphere.

[nocturne reef]

doesnt really fit the server theme, hm?

[digital sorrel]

Neither do gaming or science.

But people can discuss the food in german, like they do in both.

[gritty geyser]

We'll think about providing an opt-in channel for it

[lime sparrow]

dialects channel when?

[lapis nymph]

Make the new Deutsch-only to encourage learning German culinary vocabulary maybe

[fathom fulcrum]

Oh yeah, a Deutsch-only cooking channel would be awesome, if you end up deciding to add one.

Maybe a soft Deutsch only though so that conversation is in German but asking vocab questions in English is allowed.

[sand bramble]

Neither do gaming or science.
WTF are you talking about we're a math server.

[peak holly]

are we though 🤔

I mean, aside from the composition of the member base

[lime sparrow]

hey I’m on a linguistics server with some 40 channels, abotu 5 of which are about linguistics

it’s perfect

[peak holly]

I'm in favour of a food channel btw

[lime sparrow]

food channels are always nice

[terse prism]

Oh it would be really nice if it was in German of course. How enriching would it be..

But it should also be open to whoever wants to talk whichever language, that’s how exchanging works

I brought it up because I saw that would be a lebendig part of the server

[tawdry talon]

Too much english in this group

[fathom fulcrum]

Sure but this isn't a general language exchange server. This is a German learning server with English as a facilitating language. So it doesn't make sense for it to be other languages besides English and German. There are many other multi-lang servers in which people can exchange in other languages.

[terse prism]

That’s not my point.

Though, including that will give flexibility

And the German language should be the go to language

The flexibility thing was because, all around the world the dishes are not named in German

The conversations tho, would better be

[tawdry talon]

I agree with you

But pushing more Deutsch then english overall would be better

[terse prism]

Lovely, refreshing our knowledge and pushing us out of the boring comfort-zones.

[peak holly]

I was thinking, could the bot be made to read #resources, find new links that are posted in it, and add them to the resource list automatically? Then he could post a message in there when something new is added, and reacting with ⬆ and ⬇ could influence whether the link stays in the resource list. Or the message could be posted before the resource is added, which would only be done if the reactions reach a certain rate of "approval". A reaction by an admin would count as a "veto" to add or not add the resource regardless of other reactions, if needed (or to speed up addition of obviously good resources).

Various safety measures could prevent abuse: for example a limit on how many links can be "proposed" in a certain time span (either in general or by each given user), perhaps even a stronger limit for individual users whose resources are often voted down. And then of course links that the bot finds duplicate, broken, or that are in weird formats, would not even reach the proposal phase.

This all hinges on whether the bot can interface with google docs but I think that's easily possible unless discord bots have some limitations. If access to the google api or whatever is limited then the bot could process the proposals but then only actually update the resource list once every day, or few days.

[lime sparrow]

that sounds like it would just work worse than a human curated list

it’s not like there are tons of suggestions all the time, and I doubt most users have a good overview of what is and isn’t redundant for the list

also formatting

have fun teaching a bit how to nicely format the list

[peak holly]

how would it work worse? It's literally less work for a human to do .-.

[lime sparrow]

it would work worse in that I believe the end result to be worse

[tardy pilot]

Coding is hell

[lime sparrow]

because

I doubt most users have a good overview of what is and isn’t redundant for the list
also formatting

also https://xkcd.com/1319/

xkcd: Automation

'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.

basically it sounds like a lot of effort for something that may not even produce good results

[peak holly]

If we were to apply that concept too broadly it would mean no automation would ever make sense.
Redundancy would be solved by duplicates detection - having more than one different resource on the same topic doesn't really hurt anyway.
I see your point on formatting when it comes to the categories under which the links would have to be sorted, but it's not an impossible task. Those categories are a closed set of discrete elements and detecting what kind of material is being added wouldn't be impossible for a machine to determine.
To make the task easier and also partly solve the other issue you detected, users could be required to name the category the resourse belongs to. If they don't, it stays as a simple message with a link that isn't added to the list, just like many others already are. This would mean that users that do add that required information are also likely to have informed themselves on the list itself, thus reducing redundant material.

[gritty geyser]

I won't implement that.

It's way too much work for a simple thing that Arrem and I do once every week

Besides, it's error prone and a hassle

[peak holly]

alright ^^
I would like to say I'd like to experiment and implement it myself but I have a lot on my plate already, for now

[fathom fulcrum]

It does seem like a cool idea programming-wise but for me it would make it such that it's no longer really a curated list. 😄

As if I would trust all you random members to judge my resources. 👀

[peak holly]

then make a machine learning algorithm that judges what is good and what isn't u.u

easy

[keen creek]

🤔

[primal anchor]

＞ build an ML algorithm
http://joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow/

[sand bramble]

Oh yes that's a fantastic article lmao.

[digital sorrel]

Make #danielgazing.

[mossy gulch]

lollll

[lucid ledge]

Can we get uhhhhhh some pizza pasta up in here?

[peak holly]

wrong server 🇮🇹

[lime sparrow]

Would it not make sense to have roles for A1/2 etc? color-coding could stay the same but a bit more detailed skill display can be helpful

[lucid ledge]

Nah

We'd run out of colours if we implemented this foolishness

[peak holly]

that level of detail is not generally needed. Besides, people have a hard time deciding where they stand already

[edgy fulcrum]

Wow... Way to be encouraging of new ideas and suggestions, @lucid ledge. Sascha even addressed your exact reason not to.

[lucid ledge]

LMFAO WHAT

I made a joke Mr mind control tech

[edgy fulcrum]

Without knowing you, that's difficult to gauge 😉

And, as someone new to the server, it can be discouraging reading responses like that to suggestions

[gritty geyser]

Jokes?! Outrageous! Humour is banned on this server, don’t you know that, hecke! 😡

[edgy fulcrum]

There are 6000+ people on this server, not all of them will know your personality. It's not that difficult to add something akin to an /s when being sarcastic or an indicator that you're joking. The messages you write will be read by people who don't know you, and who won't be able to pick up on your tone. I'm not suggesting anyone stop joking, an indicator is really all that is needed to completely change the tone of a message. Not everyone will understand when a joke is a joke, and a lot of people do experience their suggestions not being taken seriously - it's not a wild assumption to think that happened here. Being considerate doesn't have to come at the expense of humour, they're not mutually exclusive.

[lime sparrow]

We'd run out of colours if we implemented this foolishness
I already said that the color coding could and probabyl should stay the same

like A1/A2 would both be orange

otherwise it’ll just be a visual mess, absolutely agree

[gritty geyser]

It was a joke, please. Besides the matter of separating the affected CEFR roles has already been thoroughly discussed multiple times.

[lime sparrow]

and the conclusion was?

I mean apparently “not doing it”

but I am curious to hear why

[gritty geyser]

we dont see any benefit in splitting them

[lime sparrow]

I do: it gives someone who wants to help out better information for how they should approach it. obviously this can easily be figured out by just talking too

but someone who’s at <A1 in particular needs other kinds of help than A2

[gritty geyser]

Most people don’t know their exact lvl. And i also noticed that a lot of people are shy to change their lvl to sth higher, this might give them more unnecessary pressure. And different people have different needs when learning anyways, so you would still have to talk to them

[edgy fulcrum]

Speaking of which, is there any benefit to having a "Complete utter noob, below A1" role? 😋 Or is the lack of a CEFR role seen as that? Got confused how I should tag myself when I joined the server last night

[peak holly]

there is nothing below A1 :P

[gritty geyser]

Turquoise people are banned

[peak holly]

if you have the A1 role, you're from 0 to just below A2. We could say people that are below A1 are not even interested in learning, so they have no role at all

some people use the term A0 but I don't know if that's actually a thing in CEFR, and I don't see a point to it anyway because in that case, you can go from A0 to A1 in minutes anyway

[gritty geyser]

It’s not a thing

[edgy fulcrum]

Ah, okay. Maybe that's my confusion regarding CEFR, then 😊 I thought A1 referenced people who have basic and (limited) speaking knowledge. Thanks for clearing that up!

[lime sparrow]

CEFR only has the six levels {A,B,C}×{1,2}
“A0” is a colloquial thing for “I’m still very much a beginner and don’t yet fulfill the A1 requirements”. I’m A0 in Japanese still (and I’ve been actively studying it for half a year now, though perhaps not in the most efficient of ways).
Some places, particularly university courses will also have stuff like A1.1 and A1.2 for the “level” at the end of a course

which just means that you’d be expected to be A1 after two courses

(A1.2 = A1)

[lucid ledge]

@edgy fulcrum lol

you just jumped ahead of yourself and dont want to admit it

so blame me

[obtuse sedge]

Moderator note: From now on, duplicate proposals will be turned down without further notice. A list of suggestions can be found here: https://goo.gl/r12nv3

[lime sparrow]

suggestion: allow rediscussion of a proposal after at least a year has passed

[peak holly]

even less

[lime sparrow]

nah a year is reasonable

[sinful zealot]

pls add a command to clear the reminder list

[gritty geyser]

alright

[sinful zealot]

ahhhh

thank you !!

is it possible to clear specific reminders, too ?

[gritty geyser]

I could do that, yeah

[sinful zealot]

ohh that would be really awesome

thanks nully !!

ur the best beef

[gritty geyser]

yw

[sinful zealot]

WOULD ALWAYS HAVE BEEF WITH YOU 12/10

[gritty geyser]

That would be cannibalism for oxi

[sinful zealot]

or maybe I meant that I'd always fight him 👍

[crystal crest]

Hidden channel for squats and fitness lol

Name edit: "Squat squad channel"

[rapid lintel]

Do credits go to me?

[gritty geyser]

how'd you talk while doing squats though

[crystal crest]

By sheer concentration

[peak holly]

Each squat one character

[lofty oracle]

By sheer force of anger alone

[mossy gulch]

Just buy a computer like Hawking's

[gritty geyser]

make a >Nullypetthedog command, so everytime someone uses this command Nully gets pinged and pets the pupper

Sure

help petfreya

[obtuse sedge]

petfreya

Asks 0x1 to pet his dog, Freya.

Use ">help command" for more info on a command.

[gritty geyser]

aaaa

[sinful zealot]

Add >goodgirl to ping Nully to tell Freya she's a good girl

[sand bramble]

Add a command that lets us easily define our own commands on the fly.

[fathom fulcrum]

Agreed.

The first command I'll define is a command which automatically accepts and implements all suggestions.

[peak holly]

I'd define a command to make myself a bot

as in, become a bot

Berzi McBerzface