avatar-help

[gaunt burrow]

anyone know how to make a quest compatible png avatar? its mostly background images im having issues with because it shows a black background around the avatar

i know its possible

and another issue is i dont have blender nor do i know how to use it at all

and particles/multiply is NOT doing her any justice

but it may be my only option

this is what happens when i use alpha cutout btw

[lilac musk]

When you see PC avatars like this, they are using transparency shaders. However transparency is not supported on quest shaders. The best solution is to go to blender and make a mesh that fits exactly the shape of the image. You say you don't have blender or know how to use it. Well everyone started off the exact same. Just go download it (Its free) and start learning. If you have any issues, you can always come here and ask for help.

[gaunt burrow]

ill do my best, ty

[lilac musk]

You got this!

[blazing plank]

hi, when converting my pc avatar to quest, it has a blueish hue added to the texture when it shouldnt, it even adds the blue hue to solid black colors.
(ive used vertex remover and everything for quest tools, even repainting it in blender to no avail).

[gaunt burrow]

i have a plane in blender, now what do i do?? google isnt being helpful either

[lilac musk]

I recommend you do some beginner blender tutorials. Walking you through step by step not knowing anything would be tedious and slow. First goal would be to setup the material with your image so you can start modeling.

[lilac musk]

Might be your lighting? Doesn't look like you have a skybox.

[blazing plank]

noo its nothing to do with the skybox and stuff, it just does this </3

[lilac musk]

Even in game?

[blazing plank]

yes unfortunately, only for quest version

[lilac musk]

No vertex colors, not a lighting issue, retexturing didn't fix it. This is very odd. What happens if you just remove all the textures? Is it just blue or does it go white as it should? Share a screenshot of your material perhaps?

[blazing plank]

i will, just a moment :^)

what do you mean by removing the textures ?

[lilac musk]

Select the texture on the material and set it to none

[blazing plank]

thank you, im opening the project one sec :>

okay, it appears when i swap to the android platform via vrchat sdk

on the windows platform it looks fine, but when i swap to the android platform it has a weird hue

[lilac musk]

Only when in android build? I'm at a loss. That just seems like something is straight up wrong with the project at that point. That or it's some setting that isn't generally touched for avatars that I wouldn't know of. I'd recommend package up your avatars and throw them into a fresh project

[blazing plank]

thats exactly what i did, thats why the hairs different from the first screenshot

i really appreciate you trying to help ! dont stress it :))

ill just scrap it ^_^

[jagged stone]

what is this used for again, i forgot ngl

[ornate stump]

Probably matcap texture.

[jagged stone]

ahhh

tyty

[ornate stump]

Did you actually check the material settings? It rather look like emission didn't get masked out.

[ornate stump]

It's just any shader with emission option.

[unkempt iris]

how do i do emissions 🥹 i tried enabling it in toon standard but it turned the object white 😢😢 do i not pick a color ?

[ornate stump]

You put texture for emission map: telling what color it should glow on what part of your model.

[unkempt iris]

thank you 😭😭

[steel flume]

any particle wizards? :(( this particle flowtoy asset im using on my avi is borked, tried reaching out to the creator already with no luck

below is how its supposed to look like, so without the 'blinking/breathing' and in unity playmode (av3 emulator+vrcfury on) it works fine as well its only ingame it doesnt, both on deskie and in vr - we replicated it in unity by reducing the max particle count which caused new particles to delete old ones, but ingame its at 1000 max particle (like its supposed to be) so it doesnt get reduced on upload but seems like it is

[surreal timber]

Cant set up visemes at all and the button is unresponsive. Already tried closing and opening the project(via VCC), but the issue persists

Rig definition is humanoid.
Mesh is named “body”
Descriptor is on the prefab root

[ornate stump]

Try deleting the descriptor component and add back again.

[surreal timber]

Wahhh pfff, I should’ve tried that first in hindsight lmao. Thanks!

whats strange is if i paste the component values from the previous descriptor, I can no longer add the lip sync back-

Though i did have VRC's default action layer controller resting in the action layer slot....

deleted it out of curiosity and the button is still unresponsive. Heh. Weird. re-doing the eye values on the new one is nbd, but now im just curious lol

[quiet kraken]

Anyone know what is the maximum velocity value for a bone?
more specifically the wrist bone, does it goes only from 0 to 1 or can it surpass that depending on how
fast the person is moving?

[ornate stump]

Another meaning is the relative speed it has to get in order to trigger the parameter when hit.

The unit is in meter per second.

[quiet kraken]

but does it have a maximum or does it keeps going up depending on the person's swinging velocity?

[ornate stump]

No maximum.

[quiet kraken]

hmmm oky oky

[ornate stump]

Maybe the speed of light is the maximum.

[quiet kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-cat-evil-stare-spooky-gif-23967184

[surreal timber]

you might be able to monitor the float value in the debug menu?

[quiet kraken]

about that menu

[ornate stump]

OnEnter contact just trigger a parameter for one frame.

[quiet kraken]

why is it so laggy?
i was in a world with only 3 friends of mine and i was having around 40 to 60 FPS, when i
open that menu it drop to almost 10

[ornate stump]

It has a lot to render. Especially avatar with excessive amount of parameters and animator layers.

[quiet kraken]

ahh fair ig

also im guessing the base running speed value is 4.00 right?

[ornate stump]

Default running speed for most world.

[limpid cargo]

did you ever find a solution? i’m having this issue too and trying to index search the channel for answers

[balmy barn]

check if physbone too near a collider or inside it when using gravity it can bounce around , duplicate av to test and remove its colliders ( id use angle limits )

some avs with scaling wrong (100) so the physbone using some insanely small radius

[limpid cargo]

no colliders near it. it’s a hat with charms
i’ll upload a screenshot of my setting when i am at pc

[hollow rover]

Hey guys i am currently learning how to make a shield on my avi block particles
How or what system do i need to use to achieve this?

[bronze oak]

i need some help with my avatar i have an problem that when i talk in vrchat my mouth dont moves, the lipsync stats are the same on both of my avis but on 1 avi it dont works with the mouth

[valid spire]

is there anyone who can help me? i'm trying to put some clothes on a model on unity but when I try the avatar the clothes just stay in T pose, i'm new to this stuff and i've been trying for atleast 13 hours, i'm desperate

[junior void]

well, how are you putting them on? share your method, screenshots help a ton as well

[indigo compass]

First of all the clothing has to be made specifically for that model, you can't just take any clothing and think it will work on any model without redoing the weightpainting in Blender or other 3d modelling program.

If the clothing was made for the model then there should be a pre-setup prefab that you are supposed to drag onto your avatar root in the hierarchy (the list on the left, you want the clothing to be under and indented, a child of it) and assuming the prefab was setup to be used with VRCFury (it will be listed among the requirements on the store page for the clothing) then you should just need to upload.

[light heath]

I mean for me when it comes to my PNG avatars I go into the materials for the quest version I duplicate using shift D make one of the things multiply and the other particles that’s compatible and then make another plate by duplicating it and put the other shader on it and then there you go

[limpid cargo]

look into the “Knife tool” in blender
that is exactly what you want.

[limpid cargo]

if you still haven’t figured it out by <t:1775246457:t> , i’ll be on pc and just send me the png, i’ll do it for you. it takes literally 5 minutes haha

[stoic perch]

how do i do base layer poses properly? I've got the action in blender, it imports kind of strangely into unity (not centered where it should, and slightly tilted?) and then in-game, the leg position is just overriden by the ik

(i'm using just head + hands tracking, no full body tracking)

[stoic perch]

(I'm using the base layer because i'm replacing the crouching and prone poses, which are on the base layer)

[reef cove]

Modifying my .fbx in blender seems to cause Unity to order the shapekeys, any way to prevent this?

[stoic perch]

Ideally i think i'd like to just disable the ik for that animation. is there a way to do that?

[young token]

anyone know how to fix this

i want my rest pose a tpose but when i do that the mesh goes into its old pose

please help me if someone can\

[limpid cargo]

i don’t know how to solve your issue, but to change crouch and prone poses i use LocomotionFix package

you can insert a custom animation there

[young token]

anyone know

[pine valley]

You can change the resting pose by:

• Applying the Armature modifier on the model
• Selecting the armature, going into Pose Mode, and running the "Apply Pose as Rest Pose" operator
• Adding a new Armature modifier to the model and pointing it at the armature

[stoic perch]

you've prolly got keyframes

[pine valley]

Just changing the rest pose doesn't help

it doesn't really matter what the rest pose is; what matters is how the current pose differs from the rest pose

so if you just apply the rest pose, the model will revert to its original shape

Applying the modifier permanently deforms it

if you select the model object and go into edit mode, you'll see that it's actually different after applying the Armature modifier

[young token]

Im still kinda confused

[pine valley]

about what step?

[young token]

applying the modifer on what

[pine valley]

on the model object

[young token]

this is what i have

[pine valley]

this is what actually deforms the model

when you apply it, you permanently deform it based on the current pose of the armature

(ctrl-a or open the little dropdown menu and hit Apply)

[young token]

so i click on the armor and hit control a

?

[steep herald]

I’m a bit late to the party, but this looks like a rigging issue. For cases like this, I’ll usually either sculpt the armor so it roughly matches the character’s T-pose, or set up a temporary rig for the armor, pose it to align with the character, and then apply that as the new rest pose. Once everything is in a similar pose, I’ll move on to properly rigging the clothing or armor to the character.

[pine valley]

ctrl-a while hovering over the modifier will apply it

however

it looks to me like you need to fix your body

[steep herald]

His issue is that the armor isnt the same pose as the model

[pine valley]

your body is in an A-pose here after applying the rest pose

although, I can clearly see the bones are aligned with the body here

so i'm a bit confused

[steep herald]

Hes trying to rig the armor to the model no? His arms go up, the armor goes up right? That's because the armor needa temp-rig first, to match the characters pose

[pine valley]

He said he wanted to make the rest pose a t-pose

currently, it looks like the rest pose is an a-pose

[young token]

i just want the armor to fit

[pine valley]

I'm unclear what the goal is now

[young token]

so im trying to get the armor on here but the armor is messed up

[pine valley]

Okay, so you do not want to make the rest pose a t-pose – you're just trying to make the armor correctly fit the body

[steep herald]

Yea I would not change your avatars natural resting pose, I would make a temp rig for the armor

Or sculpt

[pine valley]

I would make a copy of the armature + armor so that you can pose it separately from the body

Pose that armature so the armor lines up properly

Then:

• Apply the Armature modifier on the armor
• Select the armor object, then the armature object
• Hit ctrl+P and select "Armature deform"

(simplified)

[steep herald]

Close, duplicate armature is good, pose it properly, apply as rest pose, then add armature modifer, pose it to match the character model, then armor will be in a way better spot.

[pine valley]

you'll need to re-parent the armor to the original armature anyway

[pine valley]

You still need to modify the original armor model, though

[steep herald]

You don't need to modify the armor, you just need the duplicate rig, to put the arms in the right place

[pine valley]

but now you have two armatures with different rest poses

[steep herald]

You're moving the arms down to match the base

Then after its reposed, you can remove the duplicate

This is all just to eliminate the first issue

[pine valley]

this only happens if you apply the armature modifier, so that you permanently deform the model. otherwise, if you just switch the armor back to the original armature, you'll be back where you started

[steep herald]

Well the armor needs to somewhat deform, either through armature or sculpting to be in the same arm shape as the characters A-pose because the armor is in T-pose, which is why when he tries to rig it currently, the arms are in the air

[pine valley]

yes, and you achieve that by:

• posing the armor so that it matches the body
• applying the Armature modifier on the armor to make those changes permanent

[steep herald]

Yes you either pose with the duplicate rig, apply, then delete the dupe, and work with the original base armature, (Now that that character/armor match pose) or you completely ignore, and sculpt. Where are we having a disconnect? lol

Oh, well you can do that too

[pine valley]

"apply" could mean a lot of things here :p

[steep herald]

Yea, either way though, dude has years of knowledge here at his disposal

[pine valley]

Apply the duplicate armature's current pose as its rest pose would not work. The model would snap back to its original un-deformed shape (because the armature is now in its rest pose!)

You could certainly do that after applying the armature modifier

[steep herald]

Nono, you change the pose of the dupe first

Without rigging

Then you apply as rest, then you rig the clothing to the dupe

[pine valley]

Ah, okay, I understand now

[steep herald]

It's just a different way to do the same thing

[pine valley]

Yep, that makes sense

[pine valley]

And it's what I'd do if I couldn't easily just eyeball it, like I did here

[steep herald]

I try to do it that way though to naturally avoid model inconsistencies, if i'm not directly sculpting the arm deformations

[pine valley]

yeag

[young token]

theres to much

[pine valley]

I would suggest doing what Kioshi suggested: make a copy of your armature and, in Edit Mode, make it match the armor

You can then easily pose it to match your body

(you can also fix it in Pose Mode and then apply that as the rest pose -- same difference)

[upper lagoon]

So im running into a prominent issue, where I tried to Scale my avatar down in blender, and it scaled fine in blender, but now when I Export it to unity, still looks fine but if i open the import setting config or ingame it looks super stretched out. and i can't undo enough times to go back to my avatar's original height, how do i fix this?

[young token]

Yeah i when i duplicate my old armature and try to put it on my armor it won't work

[pine valley]

You probably just need to reset the pose of the humanoid avatar

Unity remembers how large your armature was when it was first imported

Select the model in the Project window and go to the Rig tab in the inspector

hit "Configure"

[upper lagoon]

oh my goodness

i found it

[pine valley]

then, at the bottom of the list of bones, do Pose > Reset

[upper lagoon]

was it really so simple?

i will upload and see

[pine valley]

This commonly happens when people switch the Apply Scalings mode

you can test it in play mode!

[upper lagoon]

ooh yes

well im already uploading it :p hehe

well thank you, suprisingly simple as my searches ended up making it seem like this was going to be outlandishly complicated

[pine valley]

it's a very confusing problem

[young token]

anyone know where to find a human model thats rest postion is a tpose

[prisma monolith]

i have a folder in my avatar for emotes, how do i make it so that if one emotes playing and i switch to another one, it stops and unselects the previous one and plays the new one?

im using vrcfury for them btw

[smoky robin]

hey yall i need help with Unity. i havent touched the program in like 2 years and genuinely forgot how to use it. Im making an avatar that has eye glow, but i genuinely have no idea how to do that.

[ornate stump]

Rather you have to make use of material emission.

[pine valley]

Emission is ideal for that, yes

it causes a material to light up, even if there is no light source hitting it

Using real lights will work, but it'll be a bit expensive and make your avatar Very Poor

[smoky robin]

theres some avatars out there with the whole pupil glowing, but the whole emission texture thing doesnt really work for that (im also not the brightest)

i suppose something like this

[twin raft]

thats just an emission

[pine valley]

You'll need to create a texture to control where the emission happens from

[little plume]

how do i fix the eye texture being completley fucked?

[round comet]

Is it something with your culling maybe? Check your material settings in unity

And see if culling is set to off

If not make sure the uv is alright in blender

[limpid cargo]

it looks like you have the incorrect culling mode

[little plume]

?

the eyes are these 2d planes

[west linden]

hey could i get some help i am trying to figure out how to get an asset to move when i change a blend shape on the avi

[little plume]

rotating these constraints poses them

[little plume]

wym exactly?

you could make an animation that moves the asset with the shapekey and play the animation at the same time if you are just trying to keep it alligned

[west linden]

idk how to explain it properly and cant really send a video of the issue here

here i am gonna basically show what i am talking about real quick

[little plume]

animation blendtree in the controller i think

[west linden]

there im trying to move the sphere when i change the blend shape

[little plume]

make an animation moving it, and setup in your controller a blendtree for your shapekey and animation clip

make 2 animation clips

1 where its in the original position

and one it the moved position

[west linden]

and what do i do if im using vrcfury?

[little plume]

idunno

ask claude ai lol

[limpid cargo]

first try changing that “cull” setting there
if not, check the UVS

[little plume]

i did

i think its due to the way the eyes were rigged to be on a 2d plane

[limpid cargo]

ah

im not sure how well blender constraints translate to unity. i only do constraints in unity 😅

[west linden]

?

[quasi swallow]

hihi, i am trying to upload avatars i have found online but there are a few errors i keep seeing that i cannot resolve. they are:
-# note i made sure i downloaded any necessary packages like shaders and VRC fury & made sure they are up to date

loaded data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID
there is NO blueprint ID at all under the pipeline manager

NullReferenceException: objects reference not set to an instance of an object
i have NO idea what this means or how to fix it

the only alerts i have are performance based like too many bones & a triangles alert

anyone have any insight? ^^

also, when i'm going to upload, i select the character in the hierarchy that shows the descriptor & whatnot. is that the correct layer to select?

[vapid slate]

so ive heard from my friend that you can take face tracking "prefab" or whatever from an avi and put it on a different one... if this is true how do i do it?

[pine valley]

the face-tracking prefab (probably one of Jerry's FT prefabs) just animates a bunch of blendshapes on your body

so it doesn't depend on a specific avatar base

[pine valley]

can you click on the "NullReferenceException" item in the console and show us the full text that appears in the bottom half?

[vapid slate]

even if i add it to an avi it doesnt have it

[pine valley]

well, no, it can't make up blendshapes

if the blendshapes don't exist, nothing will happen

[vapid slate]

ahh

[cosmic sigil]

Hey does anyome maybe know anything about this? Im having an issue messing with armetures

[quasi swallow]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c.<CreateContentInfoGUI>b__100_0 (System.String selected) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1522)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].GetValueToDisplay () (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BasePopupField2[TValueType,TValueChoice].SetValueWithoutNotify (TValueType newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].SetValueWithoutNotify (T newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BaseField1[TValueType].set_value (TValueType value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField`1[T].set_value (T value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.HandleAvatarSwitch (UnityEngine.UIElements.VisualElement root) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1721)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)

here it is!

nvm!! i found a broken script that i was able to resolve i think ?? hoping it doesn't actually mess w/ the avi since i have no idea how any of this works lol

[pine valley]

and what version of the SDK are you using?

you can check in the VCC's "manage project" screen

[lunar needle]

hey guys i bought an avatar recetly and i wanted to add a few silly stuff
can anyone help me with this error? i can't upload the avi :(

it's my first time uploading and adding stuff to avis

[quasi swallow]

3.10.2 for both the base and avatars

[quasi swallow]

this is the same issue we are discussing rn ((:

[lunar needle]

oh sorry

i guess im lucky

[quasi swallow]

nono im letting you know so you can follow along haha

[lunar needle]

thank you

[round comet]

Wonder whats causing it then. You ever figure it out?

[ornate stump]

Validation failed also get reported in the Info item(white icon) so you will have to take a look there as well.

[lunar needle]

this?

[ornate stump]

What detail it's written below? Also get the detail of Avatar validation failed.

[pine valley]

okay, I've seen this error like 4 or 5 times now

this has to be a bug in a recent SDK version

[lunar needle]

fah

[pine valley]

The error is happening because the SDK is trying to decide if a string is "public" or "private"

but it's being given a null string

If you have not yet uploaded your avatar, it stores the visibility setting locally

[lunar needle]

should i downgrade sdk by one version?

[pine valley]

once you upload, that information comes from their servers

[lunar needle]

i did but im updating it

[pine valley]

ah, hm, that throws a wrench into my theory

[pine valley]

oh, but that's a different error

[lunar needle]

i can delete the old one and try uploading it from scratch again

[pine valley]

this error is the one I was talking about

[lunar needle]

ah

sorry

[pine valley]

i wonder if the null reference exception happens after another error gets the SDK into a bad state

where it doesn't know what the visibility of the avatar should be

[lunar needle]

[dapper echo]

Have you tried regenerating scene ID's and then reloading the SDK?
Also one thing I've done, was upload an avatar that has nothing on it, copy that ID, and then attach it to the one I'm actually trying to upload.
Brute force it, if you will.

[quasi swallow]

few questions since i am entirely new to all of this!

1. are all clothing compatible with all bodies? do you have resize/reshape sometimes? if so, how?
2. how do i add accessories such as a pair of glasses or something interactable like the poppable bubblegum or a laser pointer? any youtube tutorials or similar resources?

[dapper echo]

1: No, if you really want a specific article of clothing to fit an avatar, you're going to have to re-sculpt it in blender.
2: VRCFury is a powerful tool.

[pine valley]

yeah, uploading a new dummy avatar and then re-using its ID may do the trick

[lunar needle]

im trying it rn

[quasi swallow]

sweet! what is the best way to find clothing for specific avatar bodies?

do you have any good tutorials for using VRCFury to add these types of things? ^^

[dapper echo]

1: Search VRCArena, Gumroad, Payhip, or jinxxy, for "[Avatar Name] [Clothing Type]".

2: You can try youtube, but it's best to ask around.

[quasi swallow]

ooh also another question. i uploaded a quest compatible avatar but when i look at it in my uploads on the website, it only shows the windows rating. does that mean it didn't upload for quest or?

[cosmic sigil]

Hey is anyome able to help me with armature amd avatar scaling stuff? Editing a friends avi, they wanted jackal scailing

[dapper echo]

Don't worry about those, VRCFury will fix them automatically upon upload, or it will prompt you to allow the fix.

[cosmic sigil]

Ahhhh okok
But when i joined the game to test it, the avatar just goes invisible when i use it

I follpwed the pdf instructions to the key

[pine valley]

this depends a whole lot on what you're actually doing here

ah, its the scaling system

[dapper echo]

You need a VRCFury Fix Write Defaults component on the root of your avatar, for one.

[pine valley]

if it can't find your Armature, then it's not going to work at all

[dapper echo]

First you need to actually install the build tools for android if they aren't already, and then switch your build to Android from the SDK, you've been overriding your windows build with your quest one.

[cosmic sigil]

Ooo, you know how to pop it in?

If you help me out i can send you a copy-o the system as thanks

[dapper echo]

I've been making avatars for a while, I imagine so.

Also I need to see the whole VRCFury component, not just the errors.

[cosmic sigil]

Ooo, smart and experienced, tight

[cosmic sigil]

Sure ok

[dapper echo]

Do you know how to take a screenshot?

[cosmic sigil]

Yup, ill send it in a sec

[cosmic sigil]

here it be, lmk if you need more info

[dapper echo]

I need to see your whole screen.

[cosmic sigil]

Oh ok, sprry you said vrf menu

[dapper echo]

Distributing paid assets is against TOS.

[cosmic sigil]

I was just offering duder, sorry

Bein nice

[lunar needle]

can i ask for help? i just loaded in my avi 👉 👈

[cosmic sigil]

hey! so, are you on quest or pc?

[lunar needle]

pc

[cosmic sigil]

the avatar look fine or is anythin lookin weird on it? you could ignore it for now if it looks fine

[dapper echo]

Your poiyomi is severely outdated.

[cosmic sigil]

his or mines?

[lunar needle]

huh?

[dapper echo]

Theirs.

[lunar needle]

are you sure?

[dapper echo]

Your repo may be up to date, but that shader says 7.3

[lunar needle]

how do i update it 🙏

[dapper echo]

Find your material and manually change the shader to the latest version.

[cosmic sigil]

just find a newer version online duder

yayah!

[dapper echo]

The repo is updated, they don't need to search the web.

[lunar needle]

regular one right?

[dapper echo]

Don't use world on an avatar, but yes.

[lunar needle]

okay thank you

[cosmic sigil]

So what was ya prognosis dokta? Any ideas on what i should do? Im gettin paid 30 fir this weheheh

And i woulda done it for free

[dapper echo]

Your hierarchy is collapsed, I can't tell what's going on, and I just need a screenshot, not a video.

[cosmic sigil]

Alri

Any other shots ya need?

Idm

[dapper echo]

Your Armature isn't named Armature, a path rewrite is in order.

[cosmic sigil]

trust me, way ahead of ya's

[dapper echo]

You have an underscore instead of a space.

[cosmic sigil]

oh!

ok one sec

Ok did it

[dapper echo]

Let me know if that fixed it.

[cosmic sigil]

Yyup yup!

It works! Duder i owe ya's

40 dollas here i coooome

[feral abyss]

anyone got a bit more unity/blender knowledge than me here? just went to do a test export of my model into unity to make sure its all working but it seems to not be quite right... assume ive missed a step in exporting a texture somewhere?

[dapper echo]

You need to actually create materials, ones that support transparency at that.

[feral abyss]

thats these right, in the shading tab? or do they need to be elsewhere

[timber wharf]

blender materials basically dont matter

you use em mostly for your convenience

stuff needs to be remade in unity with proper shaders etc

since theyre using completely different render pipelines and shading languages

[feral abyss]

ahhh, k, thats gonna be fun to learn ig!

[plucky brook]

Yo guys so I fixed my unity last night but now it’s not working again ALSO I uploaded 2 of my Avis last night it says they uploaded all good right? No I check the actual app in game and they aren’t there

Has anyone had this happen if so can someone help

Cause it’s pissin me off🥹🥹

I’ve tried asking my friends none of them know what’s happening

[timber wharf]

@plucky brook are you on pc?

[plucky brook]

Indeed

At the moment I am

I’m pcvr if that’s what you’re talking about

[timber wharf]

no, 'actual app'.

ye pcvr

[plucky brook]

I was just on the app on my pc like just a deskie

To check

I’ve never had any problems till I moved states

Dunno what that has to do with anything

[timber wharf]

well chances are they were just that bad that they were flagged by inner security check ie they should be 'security check failed'. but i dont think they should be just straight missing, just inaccessible?

[plucky brook]

Yes it said upload succeeded or whatever it says when it works

[timber wharf]

security check happens after

[plucky brook]

I

Sorry for the bad camera quality 🥹😭

[timber wharf]

its meant to catch stuff that slipped past sdk inner limits

win+shift+s

[plucky brook]

I’ve never had problems with security it’s an avi I’ve uploaded in the passed but accidentally deleted

Past*

these are the two that are missing from my account

[dapper echo]

Hey Least, would you be able to help me with an oddly specific issue that one of my skinned mesh renderers has where it doesn't react to point lights properly? Been trying to fix it for the past few hours in #avatar-general.

[timber wharf]

nah no idea, id bet on some emission or whatever shenanigans so would try with standard to rule out (or pinpoint) the shader

[vapid hedge]

i want to sell this avatar but i am unsure of a reasonable price

[dapper echo]

I've narrowed it down to be an issue with the mesh renderer itself, materials don't affect it.

It looks fine in unity, but something is happening during the upload to VRC that it just breaks.

[little plume]

how do i fix this?

the head twitching i mean

[versed marsh]

Cann someone help me figure out what is exactly wrong with my unity?

ive been trying to upload an avatar for the past 4 hours and nothing is working

it prompts me with either failing to agree to ownership, failed to upload or failed to load data

then just stacks avatar upload tasks which never respond?

ive updated to the most recent SDK and reloaded it numerous times

im seriously not sure whats wrong with it

[heavy zephyr]

Look at the console for errors

[versed marsh]

Connsole doesnt help at all

it does it across all my projects

[hollow rover]

Hey guys i just need to be pointed at the right direction
I have an object and i am planning on making it so it blocks particles that interact with it
How or what do i need to learn or explore in unity to do so?

[vapid hedge]

the head model is on the neck bone not the head bone

[exotic slate]

guy you know any other website that have free avatar beside gumroad, booth and jinxxy ?

[hallow coyote]

any clue why a model is missing a hair asset in unity? it has everything in blender 5.0

[dapper fjord]

does ANYONE have ANY idea what game this chararacter is from ?

[little plume]

i figured it out, i had to disable upper chest

[sharp lotus]

Chat, am I better off doing facial expressions the usual way or is VRC Fury meta for those rn

[timber copper]

Hiya, I'm trying to work with VRCfury toggles but keep running into issues. What I'm trying to do is set it up so the hoodie toggle is default on, as well as the clipping shrink default on. The problem I keep running into is that the hoodie will be default on, but not the clipping fix blendshape. If I change it to zero, nothing happens when i flip the toggle on/off. if I change it to 100, the blendshape is off when the hoodie is on but turns on when i toggle the hoodie off. Any ideas for a fix?

[versed marsh]

anybody?

[sharp lotus]

what is your console saying?

[timber copper]

I think I had a similar issue, except it was downloading the right unity. My fix was to close all unity programs in task manager first (yes, even the ones that run in the background) then run it as administrator

[versed marsh]

console gives nothing that helps

[versed marsh]

I have the right unity

2022.3.22f1

[timber copper]

Sorry, let me clarify: I said my issue was similar, not exactly yours, but the fix for the right unity not downloading might be the same fix for the your avatar not uploading.

[versed marsh]

i dont think so

[timber copper]

Well, wouldn't hurt to try, would it?

[sharp lotus]

How heavy is your avi?

[versed marsh]

the avi specs dont matter

its across every single project i own its broken

[sharp lotus]

It def seems like a connectivity issue, it's hard to tell if its Unity or the SDK session being buggy. You can try signing out/back in, make sure vpn is off if you have one, worst comes to worst you can try to temporarily turn off your firewall or allow Unity to bypass it, its not common to do that but it does happen sometimes

[undone obsidian]

does anyone know how to do those arm tuck toggles that every dinosaur avatar seems to have?

[versed marsh]

I just tried that

didnt work

[round reef]

hello, so im trying to upload this avatar but im running into an error, could someone help me out to solve the problem?

[bitter pond]

Does anyone know why my controllers are tracking way the hell over my head and my head tracking is inverted, meaning turning my head to the left turns my avatar’s head right? I’m using a quest 3s playing over steam link. No other VR game does this.

I’ve tried everything to fix it with no luck

[graceful citrus]

I'm getting this message whenever I open a project with poyomi toon and vrcfury. I can't upload any avatars because of this. can someone help me remove this error?

[coral ridge]

Could someone be so kind to help me figure out how to sculpt an edit of the Novabeast? I usually never have this issue with sculpt tools but it's been a long time since I last opened up Blender and the tools look a lot different than I remember.

For some reason I can't sculpt the model and I'm not sure what else to do as I'm scared to touch anything else as I don't want to disrupt the textures and uvs. Not trying to make huge edits.

[night ember]

check if you are editing a viseme or the base viseme

[coral ridge]

Doesn't look like like it. I mean whenever I place a stroke nothing happens and I'm not sure what I need to do to change that

[median stream]

I feel like Unity is today terribly slow; clicking on the avatar or certain clothes, it becomes blue and sometimes there is a long, terrible wait. a year ago it was better and faster.is there like a way to maybe fix that?

[junior void]

turn off gizmos and see if that fixes it

[noble robin]

basis blendshape and make sure the shape is at 1 so you can see the edits

[lunar needle]

hello again
can anyone tell me how can I fix this? it only happens when im in play mode

[ornate stump]

Screenshot entire screen instead.

[ornate stump]

You had the GestureManager inside of your avatar. You must put it at the root of the scene.

[lunar needle]

um like this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[lunar needle]

now it's saying this

[ornate stump]

Your avatar get disabled when testing.

[lunar needle]

is there something i can do?

[ornate stump]

Is there some dialog show up when starting play mode?

[fleet ibex]

could anyone help me? I havnt seen this error before

[fleet ibex]

another issue Im having for an opti version of a diff avi

the non version of the opti error is also having its own error

[ornate stump]

You imported an entire project as assets.

[fleet ibex]

ty

[ornate stump]

Is your avatar enabled when editing but get disabled in play mode?

[lunar needle]

yes

[fleet ibex]

trying it again

[fleet ibex]

any clue for the other two?

[ornate stump]

Something in your animator controller is broken.

[balmy barn]

probably .meta file being wierd , reimport

[ornate stump]

Avatar gets disabled is because of some preprocess tool is failed. It should show the reason when you start the playmode.

[lunar needle]

ill give up on the gesture manager i only used it to try to preview the toggles soo... here's hoping i can finish this project
thank you for the help though

one more question though
can poi shader be run with liltoon shader

[ornate stump]

If you mean using different shader for each material then sure.

[lunar needle]

ok

[young mango]

Hello, i need help figuring out why my avatar spins like crazy when walking, the only new thing i added was a cloth simulation from a tutorial, would this be the cause of the spins? and is there a way to fix it besides just going the route of removing the cloth simulation

[balmy barn]

set your collider to 'is trigger' or you spin using cloth

it will collide with your player capsule and send you spinning

dont like cloth so dont really recommend its all local and wierd

same for capsule or what you using

[young mango]

yeah, ill re-rig this thing and make it look good with phys bones at some point, ok let me try with the "is trigger" on

[balmy barn]

we need magicloth for much better flow , physbone is alright but requires some setup and angle limits

[eager geode]

both on quest version
first is in unity
second is in-game
third is using gesture manager
for some reason the animation works in unity
but doesn't inside of vrchat
nothing has changed (toon standard shader/mats)
and im not sure why this is happening anyone know how to fix this?
edit: the animation doesn't change anything except the materials, none of the values inside the materials

[ornate stump]

What animation you talked about?

[eager geode]

i know its incredibly not optimised lol
but its just changing the skinned mesh materials
and adding particles effects

ill try toubleshooting it anywho

[ornate stump]

I still can't spot the problem from the images you provided.

[eager geode]

its alright thanks for looking!

[ornate stump]

I'm assuming you're no longer need help then.

[eager geode]

i think im good
it seems to be a different animation layer
that doesnt even have any animation triggered

[small valve]

Is this upload for a plattform I dont even play Thrustworthy?
(I uploaded it for Android and iOS)

[ornate stump]

Thrustworthy? Or you just meant "worthy"? Then yes for Android. For iOS, there isn't many player on iOS to begin with.

[small valve]

*Thrustworthy
what does this error even mean? and is it for everyone?

I uploaded the avatars from Linux Mint (Kernel 6.17)

[ornate stump]

Shader error just mean that shader doesn't work. And that particular shader problably isn't something you're using.

nfsw contents are not allowed in this server.

You could use VRCFury component to move menu item.

It's something that's named very close to "move menu item".

No.

[versed marsh]

is there any unity wizards here that can please help me out?

my unity is perpetually bricked prohibiting me from uploading avatars

[pearl swan]

My avatar uses VRCFury and I have assets here that are not updated to use it, they use Parent Constraints (so like the "old-style" prefab setup and I'm wondering what components of VRCFury I would need to add where to make it work with it. VRCFury also creates the sub-menus on upload.

[oblique swan]

I’m working on an avatar and I uploaded it to quest and I tried to use it on my quest. The textures were purple and my arms were still like a T and I couldn’t move my arms.

[ornate stump]

Did you make sure that you're using supported shader?

[oblique swan]

It does say I’m don’t have a supported trader

Shader

Plus, are you able to help in a call because it’s like a lot

[ornate stump]

No.

[ornate stump]

You pretty much have to go through every material and change shader to the supported one.

[oblique swan]

How do I do that? I’m really new to avatar creating.

Is it in texture type?

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8 Watch this, especially the latter part.

[oblique swan]

all shaders are set to standerd

so will they show up?

[lilac musk]

VRChat's Standard lite will work, but not just Unity Standard shader

[oblique swan]

so its good were its at

[lilac musk]

Don't know which you're using

[ornate stump]

Are you sure it's StandardLite, not just Standard?

[oblique swan]

is there a way to set them all to that

[lilac musk]

You can select multiple materials in your assets by holding shift. That will allow you to edit them at the same time

[cloud viper]

I'm trying to upload my avatar and this is the only error preventing me. Everything seems to be correct, does anyone recognize the error?

[pearl swan]

https://giphy.com/gifs/help-harold-hide-the-pain-pUVOeIagS1rrqsYQJe

Embed fail lol

[oblique swan]

its says i have to masny material slots

i have 41

and i cant add a oicture for the avuy

avy

[ornate stump]

That's excessive but should not prevent you from uploading.

[oblique swan]

i cant put a pic

[ornate stump]

As I said that shouldn't prevent you from uploading. In fact you had already uploaded it as is.

[oblique swan]

how do i reupload

[ornate stump]

You using the texture file as thumbnail actually is the problem.

[oblique swan]

but i cannot even upload a scene picture

[ornate stump]

It seems to have problem loading data, so try sign out from sdk and sign in again.

[oblique swan]

if its set to humanoid and i pulled this from gmod should it be pre rigged?

[ornate stump]

Maybe. You have to actually check yourself.

[oblique swan]

ok

em

[ornate stump]

Check the top op Review Any Alerts and see if there is any error.

[oblique swan]

there is no auto fix at the alerts

[ornate stump]

And be sure to distinguish between error which has red hexagonal icon, and the red circle which means very poor performance

[ornate stump]

Not every error has auto fix. Does it still have error?

[oblique swan]

yea

[ornate stump]

What is it?

[oblique swan]

one saying bad

[balmy barn]

i see 2/3 platforms selected , try one at a time

multi build is.. eeeeeehhh

cause you sure not getting that one working on quest

[oblique swan]

i need it to work on quest

[ornate stump]

Read the hexagonal icon which is the error. Check your bone assignment according to the video I gave you earlier.

[balmy barn]

then you need to merge meshes and optimize it

[oblique swan]

thats all i need it to work on

is there anyone i can just share my screen

[balmy barn]

41 materials is terrible, no reason for more then 1-3 on that

fine for pc first attempts just its a progress to learn

[oblique swan]

can i do a screen share with you

its hard to just keep sending images and vidss

[balmy barn]

i got zero attention span and im doing like 8 things

[oblique swan]

so thats a no?\

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8 Watch this again on the rig configuration part.

[lilac musk]

People generally don't do 1 on 1 help in here.

[oblique swan]

oh ok is there other ways to be on a call instead with someone cause i dont understand a dang thing im looking at😂

[lilac musk]

aka 1 on 1? the very thing I just said?

[oblique swan]

nvm

[somber sequoia]

feel free to share a screenshot

[little plume]

dawg what?

vrchat/mobile/particles/alphablended is an unsupported shader, because you can only use ones in vrchat/mobile

last time i checked

it said vrchat/mobile/particles/alphablended

[lilac musk]

The exact ones you can/can't use are not well stated. The only ones you can use for avatars in there are multiply and additive

[little plume]

alr ill try multiply

nope

toon lit works

i didnt need alpha or anything just color over lifetime

[somber sequoia]

they're more accurately listed here: https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders

[dusky mantle]

Hi, someone know why my manuka eyes doesn't work? they are link to my gestures when they should be to the song. In older versions of my manuka it works fine i don't know what I changed. Thanks

[versed marsh]

I’m having the same exact problem

Nobody has been able to help ;w;

my unity got bricked magically over night and refuses to upload anything

[cloud viper]

I've tried redoing the project in different ways several times. I have no idea what it is ;-;

[versed marsh]

Nobody does

literally nobody

i’ve tried every single thing you can think of, i was recommended and i searched up to fix it

the handshake between my pc and the sdk constantly fails without any told reason

[cloud viper]

Could it be a bug in the SDK affecting only certain networks?

[versed marsh]

I dont know genuinely

ive went between numerous different SDK versions and reloaded upon each time

[cloud viper]

I hope we can fix this soon ;-;

[versed marsh]

[versed marsh]

Id say give it a day

mine just magically work out of nowhere

[cloud viper]

Wow, I'll try it. Thanks for letting me know.

[cloud viper]

It keeps failing for me :c

[balmy barn]

obvious what need fixing there but fine ignore it right 🥴

[versed marsh]

those parameters just dont exist XD

it gives an error with nothing to delete or define

those werent the issue though

[lilac musk]

Those will stop you from uploading. So it would be hard to know what the issue is if those are there

[versed marsh]

those specifically dont

[lilac musk]

Yes they do

[versed marsh]

that project is months old and has worked in the past

it was across all my projects yesterday

i already stated the issue and it fixed itself

[lilac musk]

So you can upload?

[versed marsh]

now i can yes

there was some sort of issue with the sdk failing a handshake with my network and not uploading properly

it fixed itself overnight just how it broke overnight

[clever raft]

hello, ik its stupid but im a beginner on making vrchat avatars, but how do i fix this?

[lilac musk]

Quest avatars cannot have custom shaders. You have to change the shader to a vrchat mobile one on all the materials your avatar uses

[stray trench]

is there anybody here who knows an avtar creator / rigger named moshi? he used to be in here and he helped me in the past but he has a different discord account now

i was hoping to chat with him again but i dont know how to contact him.

this was his old pfp

[fleet ibex]

looking for help here, ty in advance

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately, that error message is not of much use. If it's not the only one visible, share the first 2-3. See the first pin n here for help on doing so

[pine valley]

Oh it's that error again

Is this the first time you've tried to upoad this avatar?

if so, I have a crackpot solution to try:

• Make another avatar (it can be literally anything: maybe just a cube, idk)
• Upload that avatar
• Copy the avatar's ID and plug it into your existing avatar's Pipeline Manager
• Try uploading

[balmy barn]

most generic error unity can throw even some games do it

[pine valley]

this is stopping you from uploading, right?

that exception is in UI code, and it might not actually matter for uploading

[ornate stump]

It usually causes by some other error that stopped the UI from working temporary.

[mortal tangle]

Can someone help me with this, my texture is low resolution

[feral abyss]

when you're making blendshapes, what part of the model is the best place to put them? rn ive got my head separate from all of the different pieces of the eye and im thinking of parenting/joining them all onto the head so all the blendshapes are in one place but cant tell if thats a wise idea

[mortal tangle]

Oh-?

[coral ridge]

Thank you got it, it kept defaulting to a blank blendshape instead of basis so now it works I appreciate you :)

[somber sequoia]

which texture do you mean, the normal map texture?

[mortal tangle]

Yeah, like the textures from the avi @somber sequoia

[brave eagle]

hi everyone!! i am a beginner with anything avatar related and i was wondering if there was a specific unity version i should use? i will use it to export from vroid to vrchat but i saw i had to use unity

[somber sequoia]

Then this normal map baking isn't a thing you need to do

[somber sequoia]

2022.3.22f1

[brave eagle]

thank youuuu so much

[rare acorn]

@mortal tangle Do you want me to help you with that

[pine valley]

show us your actual problem

[strange saffron]

suggestions on how to fix the strings? I have small bones on each string so in theory it'll be playable, and there is a bone on the area near the shoulder and a bone near the neck of the violin so people can grab and use it, but it isn't grabbable in the game for people

pls lmk (and ping) if there is something I'm missing here

[balmy barn]

0 radius cant be grabbed / interacted with

[magic thunder]

Idk if anyone is familiar with jiggle physics for VRChat if anyone knows how to put ass physics on a avatar for VRChat please LMK I been having issues any help will be very much appreciated:)

[balmy barn]

you spammed it many places , so ill pass

[torn remnant]

How do i fix this?

It says this when i try to upload it

[balmy barn]

sure see these often now , id duplicate and remove things until it stops doing it , i dont use modular avatar/vrcfury and i havnt gotten one in years , but had that error a few times

just to narrow it down if some script messing , kinda generic error that one

[mortal tangle]

The avi texture is low resolution

And also the glitter

[somber sequoia]

this page is also useful: https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/

And the suggestion that going from vroid to unity via blender is probably ideal - there are tutorials.

[balmy barn]

unity default everything to 2k when you import a texture unless its lower

[pine valley]

are you talking about the weird static-y pattern on the front?

[mortal tangle]

That’s the glitter pattern i tried doing

[mortal tangle]

A friend of mine colored the texture and it came out like taht

[pine valley]

check that the original texture isn't blurry

it kind of looks like JPEG artifacting is happening on the patterns on the arms

[mortal tangle]

Yea

I’ll show the texture here

The lil designs she did are like low and can barely see it

[pine valley]

this texture has a resolution of 1170x1168

that seems wrong

textures are usually a power-of-two resolution, like 1024x1024 or 2048x2048

[brave eagle]

I see well thanks but i'll just discover for now

[pine valley]

this image has a lot of compression artifacts

your friend needs to export it again, as a PNG, at full resolution

don't send it as an image over something like Telegram, because it's going to get resized and compressed

[mortal tangle]

She sent it too me through DMs on here

[mortal tangle]

I’ll let her know

[pine valley]

the filename suggests that it got run through Telegram or another platform

(IMG_0970)

[mortal tangle]

This is how it originally looked

You can see that the lil details are hard too see

[mortal tangle]

Hmm

[pine valley]

oh, it is possible that Discord compressed it if it was too large to send

i'm not sure how that works

you should look at the resolution on your end to be sure

[mortal tangle]

How ?

[somber sequoia]

any image editor really

[lapis talon]

Hello there. I am extremely new to making avatars, basically have self-taught with different resources over the past two weeks (that's how baby i am). My avatar is looking nice, in my eyes at least. A lot more work to do but usable and a couple of outfits.

My problem currently: I cannot get blinking to work!

The weird thing is, I got it to work ONCE using VRCFury's write default, forced on. But I keep trying to replicate that one time and i have no idea what is causing it to no longer work.

I know it is simple, and blinking is not most important, but it would be nice to have. Any tips are appreciated!

[brave eagle]

i can somehow not drag my avatar from my left column into the section for the quest conversion. i need help

[somber sequoia]

whatever object you're dragging must have a VRC Avatar Descriptor component on it

[brave eagle]

ah and what is that? haha

[brave eagle]

oooh wait i found it

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar#step-5---adding-an-avatar-descriptor

Usually the slots in Unity where you can drag stuff tell you clearly what the thingy they accept is

[brave eagle]

oooooh

[coral ridge]

Anyone here open to dms regarding avatar help and stuff? Been doing edits in blender to the Novabeast but could really use some help with questions or helpful critique with some things that I want to add.

I understand some stuff it's just been a long time since I touched avatar creation/editing in unity and blender so I could use some helpful pointers.

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to discuss in #3d-modeling , it's what that channel is for

well the modeling part, otherwise here works

[lapis talon]

anything here look wrong? lol

[somber sequoia]

no, assuming those are the blendshapes you want for the looking up/down states

[lapis talon]

thanks! I just cannot figure out why she won't blink in vrchat 🥺

[somber sequoia]

does that blendshape do what you expect?

[lapis talon]

yes it does! i have actually gotten it to work once. i just can't fathom what is blocking it at this point

[mortal tangle]

ATP do Vrc fury frace tracking

[lapis talon]

are you saying that to me? lol sorry

[mortal tangle]

Yup

Loll

[somber sequoia]

Try testing with no animators, it's possible something is using a thing like VRC Animator Tracking Control to disable the face

[lapis talon]

ok, thank you both I will try no animators first and then face tracking ❤️

[brave eagle]

@somber sequoia ah i suppose there is something wrong with it

[somber sequoia]

dunno. I recommend taking a look at the console for more details.

[brave eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/head-explode-mind-blown-gif-11038567854390045170

https://tenor.com/view/a-treeager-brain-brain-explode-brain-fart-fart-gif-9369152445525720028

[somber sequoia]

that second one is certainly a problem

but when you post this, please don't crop out the error count indicator in the upper right and the scroll bar, so we can see if you're at the top of the list or not, and how may items there are.

saves lots of back-and-forth. First pinned post shows how to do this.

[brave eagle]

lmao but thats all i have as consol errors tho

[somber sequoia]

again with the indicator blocked - but I believe you anyway - that one I mentioned is definitely a problem.

[brave eagle]

i see. i will follow that pinned video wait

ait i'll try to find to fix it

apparently i have to change the file type from .vrm to .fbx

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest importing the .vrm into Blender (with appropriate add-on) and exporting a .fbx from there, after cleaning it up. There should be tutorials.

[lapis talon]

So this doesn't work for Quest 2, right?

[somber sequoia]

it should

[lapis talon]

alright, just not seeing that as supported on there :/

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean - face tracking is just OSC-triggered animations that activate blendshapes

[night ember]

quest 2 itself doesnt have face tracking but the avatar prefab is just animations and parameters controlled via osc

[lapis talon]

alright, I think i was looking at VRCFacetracking. I'll try looking into OSC triggered? not quite sure where to start

[night ember]

osc triggered isnt a specific thing

osc is just how the game can communicate to a program outside the game to control parameters and such

[lapis talon]

ok, thanks. i will look up what i can and come back for help if needed 🙂

[snow jasper]

idk if this is the right place to ask but.. is it normal for people to ask for ur vrchat account for bought avatars? like full login 😭, i just wanted to know because it seems really iffy

[still shuttle]

if ur requesting an upload yeah but i personally wouldnt give anyone ur log in info and just learn to upload urself

[tough marsh]

please help.. his neck wont stop collapsing

its only when i go into play mode / use muscles and settings

[strange saffron]

Update on this: I added a form of radius so now it's grabbable (yay!) But it doesn't move away from my body and I haven't figured out what settings I should have for the strings because it's deforming more than it should, both on the violin itself as seen in the old pic, and on the bow which is partially obscured

[vapid hedge]

why does alpha blended not work for quest?

[upper lagoon]

Ive got this bell dangling between a set of horns i made, and gave it a bone so it swings around, and ive messed with all the settings, turning gravity and momentum way up, putting limits on and i got the movement like all right. but it still feels super jittery, is there anyway to make it like... look heavier, like if it were in slow motion ?

[indigo compass]

Because transparency is computationally expensive for specifically the hardware all the Quest headsets (phones in general) are using.

As for the confusing wording, it is meant to be a cheaper option for transparency within worlds, transparency is most expensive when you can't account for it, like with avatars, when you are building a world you can make sure that a player won't see transparency through transparency as that can get incredibly expensive for the poor Quest GPU.

[lapis talon]

Yeah nothing is working. great mystery of our times

just either stuck with eyes closed or no blinking. i tried to do animations correctly

[vapid hedge]

how do i make a png avatar without making it transparrent or using alphablend?

i grow tired of using this old trick

[proud timber]

hey i got a bit of a texturing question

[lilac musk]

Make a mesh in the shape of it

[lilac musk]

Maybe someone will have an answer

[proud timber]

this is a bad unrwap right?

[vapid hedge]

issuie i need to be able to texture it as other pngs

[lilac musk]

Um, yes? Sort of depends. But most of the time, that would be unusable

[proud timber]

yeah... im gonna do some decimating

[lilac musk]

Could make a mesh for each

[ivory star]

Spoiled because of the area, darker is unity. completely SFW tho. Unity is showing something way different the blender, anytime i make two shapekeys active, it does this wierd bright area thing. Ive tried reimporting, applying weighted normals, blend vertex from basis, checking for flipped normals, no textures (its not the texture), completely getting rid of and making new shapekeys nothing seems to work. im so confused as to what is causing it. Help???

[chilly solar]

i always used a preset specular setup bc i did rec room stuff and was used to it, but i wanna set up my substance painter stuff more like other people do it and have an audiolink part and have it be metallic instead of specular, but i dont know what material to use and how to set it up. i have the nardo model so i peak at that to see if it will help me understand but i dont. what materials should i do or can i make my own? i never understand what the different pbr setups and everything are

[lapis talon]

Ok now all of the sudden my bones aren't working again. I cannot move around in the eyes of others, but i can see myself. hands are not moving. i'm sooooo fucking confused

[lapis talon]

i am truly baffled. i would tip someone for some time at this point. this feels awful. my avatar fucking works, there's just something i can't see that's blocking it 🙁

[ornate stump]

Unity Standard already is PBR setup, the one with metallic value.

[chilly solar]

Okie dokie

[ornate stump]

If you're having the same blinking issue, it likely because you're using the same blendshape blinking for something inside of FX layer.

[sand star]

does anyone know how to get the mayu cheese in the hierarchy,,, Im so new to making avatars i have no idea where im lookin, any help would be appreciated 😓

[ornate stump]

Hierarchy is the Hierarchy panel that's showing object relations in the scene.

[sand star]

right right

okay so

would I be able to find it ANYWHERE else

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure what you meant by anywhere else.

[sand star]

when exported it exports with the cheese, going through the entire panel and through all of the mayu I cant find it at all

its still there on the avatar though which is weird, I can still find it in the in the menus as well

[ornate stump]

You can just click the object in scene view, click until it's highlight with orange outline, and that will also select object in hierarchy panel.

[sand star]

I did indeed do that yes

[ornate stump]

So you found the cheese?

[rocky fractal]

anyone why does poiyomi matcap does this now. ( its the newest poiyomi) ( it flashes when i goto play mode)

[ornate stump]

What is wrong in your image?

[cobalt cloak]

why the fuck is he balck

[ornate stump]

Because there is no texture?

[cobalt cloak]

what do oyu mean?

[balmy barn]

very crunchy images there, cant see a thing and where is your texture

[ornate stump]

You rather seem have put roughness map into base color slot.

[cobalt cloak]

it has the rong name

its the base color

[cobalt cloak]

better

[balmy barn]

none of these really matter for unity unless you trying to bake first

[cobalt cloak]

in unity its back to and i cant get it to work i have 1 tex were the arm is white but there are not text like here

[balmy barn]

wich shader you using in unity

[cobalt cloak]

poiyomi

[ornate stump]

Try cutting the metallic and roughness out and see if it change something.

[balmy barn]

id just try a simple material first , having this on helps to see if its the right texture

yours seem to point to nothing from earlier image

[ornate stump]

Also should be aware of multiple uvmap channel.

[cobalt cloak]

ohhh

how do i get the uv from channel 2 to 1

copy past?

[ornate stump]

Just delete the channel 1?

[cobalt cloak]

and then they get Merge?

[ornate stump]

No.

[cobalt cloak]

do i have to make new one

[ornate stump]

What is problem with just removing uv channel?

[cobalt cloak]

okay on vu channel 2 one the arm is ther on uv channel 1 not
thats maby why he is black

[ornate stump]

If uv1 is invalid anyway you could just remove it.

[cobalt cloak]

uv 1 is the main uv with the body and alle other things i have on my avi

[ornate stump]

Then you should separate the part to different object first, remove uv channel and rename to match, then join back.

[cobalt cloak]

ahh okay

[balmy barn]

heh same issue i had yesterday forgot i was using a different uv , converted a fbx to vrm (testing things) and ..right, its not using uv0 , back to blender it went

Mtoon10 shaders are abit.. 'meh'

[north flint]

is it better to look around and see if someone has an avatar similar to what i'm looking for (https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1489720503257006241) or comission one?

[ornate stump]

If you have time to look around then look around. If you have money to commission then commission.

[north flint]

i'm just thinking is it worth it to drop ~ 50 bucks on a comm when there could be an avatar i'm looking for out there somewhere that's kinda where i'm torn

[ornate stump]

It's going to cost more than 50.

[north flint]

hence the ~ it was an estimate

[balmy barn]

played that game, getting model isnt too hard, fixing/setting it up couple of hours, quest compatible ? hah no it also can be taken down any time if Ubi dont like it (hiiighly doubt it)

( file found )

[dull flint]

can someone help me replace one of the abbess hairs and like cofig it and make it work with the hue shift wheels and maybe substance painter if ya know how?????

[ornate stump]

What have you figured out so far?

[dull flint]

so with hair i have never done and am new and with supstace painter every time i add the mes the texter never add right and like expands it

i kinda new to both

[reef kraken]

how do i fix the pixelated shadows towards the bottom of my leg? im using poiyomi toon

[balmy barn]

cant tell if its the texture or model, model > blender

sometime you get funny shadows like that

throw it in blender stuff not so jaggidy anymore

(clear normals)

[dull flint]

think you can help?

[ornate stump]

I can answer specific questions. But not as a personal coach.

[dull flint]

ok

[ornate stump]

For this, you have to check to make sure that your mesh is using the right UV map. I personally don't use substance painter so I don't know where in the app you have to look at. But general knowledge of 3D modeling still applies.

[dull flint]

ah

[exotic slate]

could anyone help me with this ? i try to reupload my avatar i successful doing it on pc but i forgot what error was this and unable to fix it

this is the quest one

[ornate stump]

It's temporary connection issue. Wait for few minutes and try again. Or change the internet by using mobile hotspot, or proxy like cloudflare WARP.

[exotic slate]

ah alright thank you

Irumi is work thank you so much

[shadow agate]

is there a particular reason my skirt clips at extreme angles + jitters

I know nobody would ever actually hold a pose for so long the jitter becomes obvious but it's still annoying

[balmy barn]

physbone and colliders arent very good , enable debug you can see the bone just slides off it , for skirts i use angle limits and weightpainting

[shadow agate]

well yeah but how do I fix it

especially since I've seen other assets do it just fine

[balmy barn]

weighpaint / transfer from leg , connect bone to leg , angle limits no collider needed ( one more bones in front or back might be handy )

long skirts are much harder , short 'so so'

[shadow agate]

that

would work

if I was working on a short skirt and wanted to moon literally everyone when I sit down yeah

[small valve]

I always get this error on every avatar, when I open the VRC SDK Control Panel:
https://paste.ofcode.org/JtqtqiiSfDPyZGcLhjEt9r

[pine valley]

does that filepath exist?

if not, i'd just do a mkdir -p /home/marcel/.local/share/VRChat/VRChat/Avatars

[small valve]

VRCFury/                VRChatCreatorCompanion/ 
MyPCName:~/.local/share$ cd VRC```

- It dont seems so.

[pine valley]

go ahead and create the dirs then

i wonder if this happens if:

• you aren't using the VCC (you're on linux, so I presume you're directly using the vpm binary)
• you have never built a test avatar before

[small valve]

I use "ALCOM" instead of the VRC Creator Companion.

I heard of the vpm binary, but I guess its not that what I am using on Linux.

[sacred iris]

How much do avatars usually cost, when being made from scratch?

[languid wyvern]

That'd depend on what you're looking around. But usually a couple of hundreds

[sacred iris]

Someone is making an avatar for me and I've already given them 100 but they're trying to ask for more to "continue to the next phase"

[pine valley]

Ah, okay, I also use that (well, the CLI version at least)

I dunno why the dirs would be missing then

[languid wyvern]

What were you trying to make?

[languid wyvern]

And by phase what have they done? Lol

[sacred iris]

Dm or nah?

[sacred iris]

Uhhh let me check

[small valve]

Why are you using the CLI version if this is avaiable for Linux?

[pine valley]

because i'm a turbo nerd

i'm already in the terminal to interact with Git a fair bit

[small valve]

oh ok.
I just remeber a Youtube video of a guy that made a "challange" to try if you can make and upload a avatar to VRChat from Linux and he sayd its possible, with the help of windows in a VM because there is no way to replace the VRC Creator Companion and its upload tool.

[timber wharf]

@small valve pretty sure @somber sequoia uses linux just fine

[somber sequoia]

VCC isn't an upload tool, that's just unity and the vrchat sdk

I've never used windows for this.

[timber wharf]

ah ye, sdk is unity package and it is what uploading, vcc just a way to keep packages updated

[somber sequoia]

And alcom replaces vcc

[small valve]

I found no feature yet that I would miss with Alcom, what the offical VRCCC does contain.

I switched last month all my VRChat and None-VRChat Unity Projects all to Linux, so that I only use Windows 11 for Anticheat games and nothing more because Vulkan is stable enough in Unity 6 for my None-VRChat projects and ALCOM helps a lot and this out of the box.

[timber wharf]

vcc is just a package manager, its not meant to be mandatory or anything, before alcom linux/mac users could just use direct vpm import

[somber sequoia]

VRChat also makes a command-line tool to do that, it's kinda awful and buggy though.

[timber wharf]

and afaik even on win alcom is preferable for performance reasons, tho dont care enough to bother

[pine valley]

ALCOM is meant as a drop-in replacement

[pine valley]

it worked fine after I convinced it that I actually had Unity installed 😉

but I then switched to vrc-get (which is the CLI interface for the same backend as ALCOM)

[pine valley]

the VCC is not actually required to upload an avatar at all

it just installs packages for you

[somber sequoia]

yeah that was annoying, I managed at one point but it's just not worth the annoyance, vrc-get is better

[small valve]

before the VRC Creator companion was realesed, I just dealed with the VRCSDK.unitypackage that I just put in a fresh Empty Unity Project. But VRCCC from VRChat helped a lot with stay up to date without breaking most of the packages all the time.

[pine valley]

I develop my own VPM packages and build avatars on my Macbook

[timber wharf]

@small valve well, that was the idea behind. that unmutable by creators stuff like vrc sdk or community packages like poi or audiolink or whatever are made to keep track of backwards compatibility ie any further poi should work just fine with stuff made for previous one or at least detect it and convert, and people dont spread around outdated packages and especially sdks included as a part of avatar package

[small valve]

Thankfully we life in a time like that.
Now we only need stable vulkan support like in Unity 6 for VRChat and we are good to go.

The only None-VRChat thing that annoys me is, that I cant play my other favorite games because not even Proton can handle the Anticheat and there is no up-to-date PS5 version either.

Otherwise I could fully abandon Microslop with Win11.

[timber wharf]

lucky. im waiting for asio or whatever support for my usb audio interface for 14 years or smth now (og drivers are vista). and not even a day earlier will i even consider switching

[somber sequoia]

wow, vista

[distant owl]

well um... how do i put this...

i made a slinger pod (From monster hunter) prefab for my partner, it works totally fine on his end, but other peoples can't see the particles, only he can (even tho i've set all the parameters to "Sync" and i've made all particle world oriented)

although there was a small instance were i could see the particle colliding effect for a second, but never again after that ^^"

[timber wharf]

@somber sequoia i mean works just fine anywhere down the line🤷‍♂️

[somber sequoia]

most likely you don't want or need the gesture right/left in here, that's a weird thing to do

[distant owl]

no, the prefab requrire a hand gesture to trigger the shooting animation

[somber sequoia]

Yes? But doing this means you intend to use them in a menu. And VRChat syncs them in the animator. And you probably don't want to save those values, they're set by vrchat when you make gestures.

[distant owl]

oh

[somber sequoia]

If you are using them in the animator as normal, there's no need for those in this parameter list

[distant owl]

you think that will fix the syncing issue?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know how those are used by whatever you have here, so I can't answer that.

but marking other parameters synced will likely make sure other players will be updated when their value changes

[distant owl]

but that is the thing, it was already sync since the start, but peoples still can't see the particles, exept for the user themself TwT

[shadow agate]

usually people can tell you how you fucked it up if you tell them how it actually works

[somber sequoia]

okay, then the issue is not caused by this checkbox, it must be something else

[distant owl]

okay, so first, there is the basic on/off toggle to open/close the slinger for use

Then there is the loading/shooting param, where it requires the item to be on first before it can load, and for the item to be loaded first on top of that before it can shoot

[small valve]

First time I saw that parameter names can handle spaces and forward slash.

[somber sequoia]

I use slashes all the time, it helps organize them

[small valve]

but in the name?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, the slash separates them into a hierarchy

[distant owl]

yes, it makes it more organized

the other one is the same set up, but i replaced the anims with blanks and mostly used this other one to play audio

then, there is the pod/ammo selection

witch also requires the slinger to be on first

is a typical Int going from 0 - 5 for each ammo, and 0 being no ammo loaded

and it goes to the exit either if it changes ammo, or if it is loaded and then shot

the last one is the same, but is for audio instead

that's about it for the prefab

[surreal salmon]

trying to itbash this avi but mighta broke it a lil an idk how to fix it

[timber wharf]

@distant owl and the question is? they cant see colliding particles only? colliding on what?

cause particles colliding on a player should work only locally ie person getting shot, you dont have any collision on other players l

[distant owl]

no like, none of particles, not even the shooting particle can be seen, (other particles are fine, just, the ones for this prefab specifically dont work) is mostly intended for colliding with the world, not players

[timber wharf]

@distant owl i dont see how loading is done ie what makes it true

[distant owl]

this

[timber wharf]

how

[distant owl]

using the menu

[timber wharf]

?

loading. the param

not toggle

how and when is it true

[distant owl]

when the person toggles it true in the menu

[timber wharf]

thats... okay didnt expect that

[distant owl]

the loading is done there

idk how to do a loading with contacts and triggers ^^" (and i dont want to know really)

[distant owl]

sorry..

basically the person selects the ammo in the menu, and then with a diffrent button, need to load said ammo before they can shoot it with a hand gesture

[timber wharf]

and shoot state does what? given theres just one despite 5 variants

[distant owl]

i

the shoot state basically turns on all of the Buffer Particles (1)

but only one them works at a time since the Empty object they are stitting in determins witch ammo is on or off

[timber wharf]

k i see, seems fine

idk, if its working locally fine then its goin to be challenging to troubleshoot

[distant owl]

yes, it is working locally fine TwT

[timber wharf]

its just kinda overcomplicated? not saying that its going to fix it but having Animator Play Audio - Parameter on top of loading and shooting states saves you two layers

[white furnace]

Hey guys! Has anybody messed with setting up radial sliders for cubemaps/skybox textures?.

I have figured out how to apply them, but when I use VRCfury to try and set up a radial, it does not let me choose the cubemap as the "altered texture"

Pretty new to things, and can't find any tutorials that talk about toggles on cubemaps or skyboxes

[somber sequoia]

if Fury doesn't support that texture type, you may need to do it manually

[sharp oasis]

I get this error in the VCC logs when I try to create a new project
Failed creating Project from template because: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: dev.vrlabs.repos.by-ids
What should I do??

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion may be a better place for that

[sharp oasis]

I saw people get sent here but I'll ask there thanks

[white furnace]

Hmm... Does that involve the "animation tab" that I've seen in some vids?

[somber sequoia]

that is how you create/edit animations, yep

[white furnace]

Thanks for the tip, I'll dig more into that. It's just so menacing

[distant owl]

yeah, you right, ima try to include the 2 things in one param

[surreal salmon]

been fightin with this all day

just trying to get it to work right but every time i enforce T pose it gets undone

an i know it can work cuz i fixed it accidentally at one point before all my work got undone

[upper turret]

My avatar is not uploading because i'm not using "SDK 3.9.0" And it's telling me the id is not allowed to be used. What can i do to resolve this?

[lilac musk]

Use a more recent sdk

[upper turret]

nevermind, i found the issue

[ivory star]

Anyone able to help me with this? Ive listed everything Ive already tried. just don`t want the question to get lost in the abyss.

[lilac musk]

Does it do this in game? I've seen Unity do wierd stuff with lighting when changing blendshapes, but it doesn't do it in game for me

[ivory star]

Thank you. This was driving me crazy. Also, this is the error that needed fixing. any idea what i need to do to fix this straight out of export from blender?

[lilac musk]

I don't think it's a blender thing. You would set it in the settings of the asset, or like most, by clicking auto fix

[ivory star]

Alright, I have this up for free DL and I just didnt want people to ask something I didnt know the answer to.

[hallow coyote]

how do i find the glitter/sparkle path in unity?

[lilac musk]

path?

[hallow coyote]

yea like this

[lilac musk]

That's for choosing a shader. If you want a shader that has glitter, poiyomi is common

[hallow coyote]

im asking how do i get to the glitter

[lilac musk]

You're going to need to be more specific. I'm assuming you want a glitter shader?

[hallow coyote]

yea,

[lilac musk]

Then look into a shader called 'Poiyomi'. It has a section for adding glitter.

[hallow coyote]

like this ss

[lilac musk]

Yup, just have to enable it and set it up how you'd like

[hallow coyote]

oo ok

[lilac musk]

@willow heath , I see you sent me a friend request. Did you need something?

[sharp oasis]

I imported my fbx into blener, deleted some mesh and then the bones and materials which were no longer in use, and reimported it back into unity.
My blendshapes still work but have lost their smoothness and become pixelated now. What could have happened?

[lilac musk]

Does it look like that in game?

[sharp oasis]

I haven't uploaded this avatar yet, but I just checked with a new project and it didn't do this before I did things in blender

The unedited FBX doesn't do this

[lilac musk]

I'd see what it's like in game, as there are strange lighting issues in editor when messing with blendshapes

[sharp oasis]

I've never seen this before and the unedited fbx in the exact same scene doesn't have the issue

oh setting legacy blendshape normals to on fixes it

[lilac musk]

I get that, but as I've seen similar lighting issues go away once uploaded, you should just try it

oh

nice

[marsh plaza]

Okay, cause every server I’ve been in hasn’t been able to help me whatsoever—

I don't know if this is a unity issue or not but I've been kinda pulling teeth with this:
So I recently bought this model here, everything is working normal but for one small thing I noticed is that her body seems to tilt at an angle whenever turning or walking back an forwards, despite me looking straight ahead!

I’ve tried to remove an idle animation she’s had to see if it may of forced her body into a certain angle and that didn’t work

[bleak basin]

guys i got a skin and realized idk what im doing anyone wanna hop in a vc and try to help?

[bleak basin]

ill give sm1 5$ if all works out

[languid wyvern]

You mean you're trying to upload an avatar?

[bleak basin]

yes 😢

i bought one not realizing how complicated it was

i know nothing abt ts

[languid wyvern]

So stuck while trying to figure it out? I could walk you through

[bleak basin]

yes i am downloading unity and vrcfury

[languid wyvern]

Alright when you're ready, shoot me a DM. So I can walk you through

[shadow agate]

is there a way to move the origin or is this an "open blender" problem
what determines where it is?
because I don't feel like moving a bunch of clothing around to fix it

[sand cedar]

i cant open my creator companion any fix?

my wifi is fine

[balmy barn]

Blender / ctrl a , its a tiny dot near your feet (or should be)

[shadow agate]

yeah I know how that part works I want to know if you can avoid having to do this on all of the shit you ever import or is that too hard for the devs to make

[distant nimbus]

i attached a mesh to my avatar, no physbones applied to it (except for on the base,) and the mesh is wobbling out of control

[surreal salmon]

huh

cloth modifeir?

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion

[livid river]

I have a hunched model I'm using constraints for, the problem is I can still see my entire head where he eyes viewpoint is, these are the settings for the constraints, does anyone have any idea why my head modl is showing in my viewpoint?

[balmy barn]

you using constraints to put head there ? , it should be weighted to headbone or use headchop to not render it for yourself

[livid river]

I'm using the constraints so the fake neck and head, which are humanoid like, are making the real neck and head bones of the model move.

[balmy barn]

id try https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-components/vrc-headchop/ , anything weighted to that wont render for you

[livid river]

Is VRC head chop quest compatible?

[buoyant robin]

i just bought a avatar but i lowkey forgot my password for my account... and if someone can point me in the direction to where i can change it that would be nice

[somber sequoia]

yes

[bleak basin]

how do i open an sdk and choose which model i want to upload ? and then name and set a thumbnail

[surreal salmon]

VRChat SDK will be at the top of ur window. select that and show controle panel

sighn in to the desired account in the authentication section before upload then go to builder

the rest is straight forward

u can hit this to select it for upload

or select it from the builder

[surreal salmon]

would anyone be able to help with trouble shooting this?

im at a loss (feel free to dm me i might not see notifications

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear what you're asking

[bleak basin]

idk how to open the menu and find expressions ugh

[somber sequoia]

menu is listed in the avatar descriptor under "expressions"

[short gorge]

hey chat i recently uploaded a new avatar and wanted to try it out on my quest 2 but for some reason i cant see my avatar but others can and i keep getting forced into a error bot avatar anyone know a fix to this? , ive tried the avatar optimization option but it says to hide very poor and below avatars but theres no block none option?

[somber sequoia]

yow

[severe crown]

all i added was a hair pieces on

[somber sequoia]

why do you have that many physbone components?

[severe crown]

im not even sure

its the base avi all i added to it were glasses bit of hair strands from another avatar hair base and a halo

[somber sequoia]

there's no useful information in that picture

or that

[severe crown]

im not sure where to checvk physbones

[somber sequoia]

well you have 283 objects with a physbone component on them, I have no idea why

[severe crown]

i just got this avi today

[bleak basin]

there also also too many on mine i bought today

what do i do abt it?

[severe crown]

thats what im tryna figure out

[bleak basin]

i don’t build so idk lmk lol

[somber sequoia]

probably figure out how they work, and work on combining them into fewer components

can't tell with no info, but probably whoever set this up has no idea how to do things properly

[severe crown]

yeah cant figure out how to minimize physbones

[somber sequoia]

usually you setup the bone chains with a common ancestor and put the physbone component on that, rather than one per chain

[severe crown]

gotcha