avatar-help

[pine valley]

One other thing to check is if any animations are coming from the FBX file

They shouldn't actually do anything unless you put them in an animator controller/VRCFury toggle/etc.

but it'd be a start

Click on your model prefab and go to the "Animation" tab in the inspector. Are any animations listed?

You might have accidentally recorded an Action in Blender, and that would've been exported to Unity

[crude anvil]

That shouldn't be possible

Let me examine

[pine valley]

e.g.

[shy anvil]

|| last question do you know how to make a physbone jiggle more? there is a butt physbone a little too stiff ||

[pine valley]

go in play mode and mess with the settings; you can move the Gesture Manager object around to move the whole avatar around

[crude anvil]

Idk what im doing ngl

Ill have to figure how bright the eyes need to be to stop them from looking like that but other than that

Hes ready

Now its time for me to get some serious help

Ive been waiting for this

I want to create a toggle that removes the hat entirely. Exposing his hair underneath

Any advice on how to pull that off

Dont worry about headchop ill do that later

[lilac musk]

Depends on how the avatar is setup. Could be as simple as turning off the hat mesh

[pine valley]

the VRCFury Toggle component can do that for you

in fact, you already had the Object Toggle action added

you just need to point it at the hat object

[shy anvil]

i tried messing with all of the basic settings like stiffness and stuff but the way the but moves doesnt have any like normal jiggle or fun movement ig? any suggestions

[crude anvil]

Like this?

[pine valley]

Yep, that'll do it.

[crude anvil]

Jesus this is simple

[lilac musk]

Fury does make simple things like toggles pretty quick and easy

[crude anvil]

And the toggles will be located in the expression folder right?

[pine valley]

Right now, you have no Menu Path set

So the toggle will not show up anywhere

[crude anvil]

nope its gone

[pine valley]

If you make the menu path "Clothing/Hat", you'll get:

• a new submenu called "Clothing"
  • ...which contains a toggle called "Hat"

[shy anvil]

Fen TvT?

[crude anvil]

Since I know how to animate

I got a question

Is there a way to make a default idle animation instead of mr. Basic over here?

Like make an animation on blender and slap it on unity

[pine valley]

I actually have not done that before.

[lilac musk]

Yea if you have animations on your FBX, they will show up in Unity. You'll just have to copy it off of it to use it

[pine valley]

In this case, you'd actually need to make in Blender – Unity can't record humanoid animations in-editor!

[pine valley]

try very small values of Pull and Stiffness

I've found that a lot of the interesting range is squished near zero

[crude anvil]

I wanna personally thank each and every one of you

You were more helpful than any one else

I wouldn't have gotten this far if it weren't for you

I was so desperate to get this done that I was willing to waste thousands of dollars on it

Knowing I could do it myself. If I had the right help

[fiery void]

fellas, need ur opinion on hair, what can be added/improved (colors just for visability)

[somber osprey]

I'm having trouble trying to understand how this works

my model has a blush that only works with some of the expression. But the conditions here doesn't make any sense.

This is how its setup I didn't change or touch anything. Could anyone explain to me how this is working for some of the blendshapes?

[lilac musk]

Only thing we can make out from your image is there are some states and transitions. One of those transitions is conditional with the condition FaceType equals 1. So the only thing we can say is that it seems they might be doing different faces depending on what that FaceType value is.

Not going to know much more unless you provide more info. How much do you know about animation controllers?

[somber osprey]

not at all. I'm new to this

here I have multiple expression toggles. for Toggles3, only the blush works in here for some of the gestures

that's how its setup

so basically all of the left hand gestures except Rock&Roll and Gun triggers the blush

but ONLY if its set to "3" in the radial menu you see here

[lone shoal]

bruh why does vrc's documentation never specify the actual important stuff, like it says colliders are allowed on avatars but mesh colliders, nahhh

[junior veldt]

would anybody be willing to upload a couple avis to my acc for me?

i reset my pc a while back and dont have any of my unity stuff set up anymore

[wintry swallow]

That makes 2 of us lol

Unity is so COMPLICATED

[junior veldt]

i know how to do it im just not in the mood it set it back up

[wintry swallow]

That's fair lol I have no idea how to use unity

[junior veldt]

if you want i can redownload stuff and teach you?

if ive got a reason to redownload it i will lol

[wintry swallow]

Yes please I tried but I didn't work lol

[daring axle]

I made an Animation in blender and I want it to be a emote for my avatar, how would I go about that? Note: I have VRCFury

[proven quail]

first, get the animations into unity. I found a reddit thing here on how to do that.

[gentle iris]

i have a toggle controlled by animation it used to work but not when i toggle it it flickers on for a second then goes off but shows the toggle is on

[somber sequoia]

Fury has nothing to do with this really. Once you get it into Unity you can copy the animation out of the FBX, turning it into a .anim file

ah, should have replied to SkippyLucky7, sorry

[proven quail]

how did you make the toggle?

[gentle iris]

it was a avatar i downloaded

[proven quail]

did you add or change anything with the avatar?

[gentle iris]

i added some wings

but they couldnt have caused it

[proven quail]

did you use vrcfury to do anything?

[gentle iris]

i sed vrcfury for other toggles and that didnt break them

the weird part is in layers other weapons are in the same layer as the broken ones but the others still work

[proven quail]

does your avatar have this component on it?

[gentle iris]

where would i find that?

[proven quail]

click on the avatar and scroll in the inspector

[gentle iris]

it has it

[proven quail]

what is it set to? (auto, force on, etc)

[gentle iris]

auto

[proven quail]

set it to disabled

[somber sequoia]

that'sa n interesting thing to do.

[proven quail]

sometimes creators utilize wd in weird ways that vrcfury thinks is broken.

the toggle just going for one frame and then stopping sounds like a wd issue

[somber sequoia]

wait, now that I've read the message, why even have that component if it's disabled?

[proven quail]

so it stops asking

[somber sequoia]

okay. I figured you'd just delete the component.
(I don't use this, simply curious)

[proven quail]

don't delete the component. it will re-add it on upload

[gentle iris]

the weapons appear but now they wont disappear

[somber sequoia]

what will, fury?

[proven quail]

ok, lets investigate further. lets look in the fx and see what wd state the previously broken toggle used

click on the avatar, and in the inspector scroll until you see the FX. double click it to open it

[gentle iris]

im in it and on the layer with the weapons

[proven quail]

then, find the layer that has the toggle that was broken. click on one of the states and see if WD is checked or not

[gentle iris]

its ticked on

[proven quail]

ok, so set the vrc component to force on

lets see if this fixes things

[gentle iris]

they go back to turning off when turned on

[proven quail]

yes, it will. It doesn't know that you deleted the component. On upload, if it detects both wd on and off anywhere in the controllers, it will ask to fix it, and then add the component based on your answer. If you delete the component, it will just ask again on the next upload and it will keep asking every upload until it sees you don't want it to ask (ie, it sees the component set to disabled)

[proven quail]

hmmm

what about the rest of the fx, do other layers have wd off?

[gentle iris]

the first 2 are the broken ones

the other weapons that work have it ticked on

[proven quail]

ok, so i assume all the arrows are checking for the same parameters, right?

or else they could be overriding each other

[gentle iris]

they are the same

[proven quail]

ok, do the working states have wd off or on?

[gentle iris]

on

[proven quail]

so enable wd on the broken states

oh wait, it was on.

ok hmm

and you didn't mess with animations, or anything? and nothing else is touching the parameter?

[gentle iris]

no

[proven quail]

I think there is another thing that causes this sometimes, its something about making the state self-transitionable. I have to wait for my avi to upload so I can look further

[gentle iris]

ok

[proven quail]

check the transition arrows

[somber sequoia]

damn that's a lot of prefabs

[proven quail]

dont talk about that

[gentle iris]

they are the same

[proven quail]

hmmmmmmm

damn im kind of stumped

Something you changed must have done something, because before it was working right?

did the wings install with anything? like a prefab with vrcfury or modular?

[gentle iris]

i had to use MA Bone Proxy for the wings

[somber sequoia]

are you using both MA and Fury?

[gentle iris]

ye

MA just for the wings

[somber sequoia]

huh, that's certainly a choice.

[gentle iris]

the wings wouldnt work without it

[proven quail]

I'm less familiar with modular, but usually modular and vrcfury get mad at each other

[gentle iris]

the guns dont use vrcfury

[proven quail]

ctrl + d the avatar, and remove the wings. Then see if the avatar works.

just do a test upload

[gentle iris]

my other weapons use it since i added them

[proven quail]

on the duplicated avi

ok, so you also added other weapons?

[gentle iris]

i tried using a dupped version and it has the issue too

[proven quail]

the duped version with the changes removed?

[gentle iris]

ye

the dupped one is a previous version without the wings

[proven quail]

so something permanent in the project was changed in some way.

[gentle iris]

Seems like it

[proven quail]

is it using the same fx?

[gentle iris]

Ye

I could try using the FX from another project with the Avi in

[proven quail]

the changes you made to the fx would be on the old and new avatar, so the changes would stay.

[gentle iris]

What if I import a new one into a new project?

[proven quail]

the toggles that aren't working, did you do them yourself? or they came with the avatar?

[gentle iris]

They came with the avatar

[proven quail]

did you add your new weapons to the same layer?

[gentle iris]

No

[proven quail]

so that layer is untouched basically?

[gentle iris]

Yup

[proven quail]

did you use the parameter anywhere?

[gentle iris]

No

[proven quail]

since I don't know much about modular and how it changes the fx, and I don't know what changes you made really, I don't know where to go next with the debuging process. I guess you should start a new project, reimport the avatar, and use gesture manager. Make the same changes one by one, and check the avatar in gesture manager to see if the toggles still work. Once they stop working, you know which change broke them, and then we can find a way to make that change differently to work with the toggles

[pine valley]

unless you need to modify the animation, you should avoid duplicating it

otherwise, every time you want to change the animation in Blender, you'll need to delete the copy, make a new copy, and then fix all the broken references

[gentle iris]

I'll do that

[somber sequoia]

I don't know why that's really relevant, but sure.

oh I see, I replied too fast 🙂

[pine valley]

"GunHand" and "MedigunHand"?

[gentle iris]

It's a Mimi avatar

[pine valley]

i'm asking if those are the broken states

[gentle iris]

Yeah

[pine valley]

show me the entire inspector after selecting a transition into a broken state

vs. a transition into a working state

[gentle iris]

Ok

not sure if this is right

[pine valley]

Ah, Can Transition To Self is on

Compare that to any other transition

I bet the others all have that turned off

[somber sequoia]

I bet they do

[gentle iris]

the first image for pistol is a working one

[pine valley]

the first image does not have a transition selected

that's an animator state

transitions are arrows between states

"Can Transition To Self" determines whether an Any State transition is allowed go from a state to itself

[gentle iris]

my bad

[pine valley]

If you leave this on, and the transition condition is met, you'll constantly enter the state over and over

darn

this assumes that the animation isn't a single frame, of course

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably want to turn that off for all of those transitions

[pine valley]

if it is, then it doesn't really matter if you're rapidly entering the state over and over

You should still disable it, yes

you want to enter the state and stay in it

rather than spamming it over and over

[gentle iris]

i disabled it and nothing

[somber sequoia]

that spamming it over and over is a good way to spike your CPU

[somber sequoia]

you have to disable it for all of the transitions from AnyState

[pine valley]

The issue would have gone away after disabling it for the transition to GunHand and MedigunHand

I need to go in a minute, but the next thing I'd want to see is what the GunHand animation looks like

vs. other working animations

[gentle iris]

when i turn gunhand on it flickers for a second then gone

[gentle iris]

i disabled it and the same 2 are still broken

[somber sequoia]

all of them? or just the one

[gentle iris]

all

[somber sequoia]

then there's some other issue still. I'd go into play mode (with av3 emulator or gesture manager) and activate the toggle while watching the animator to see what it does.

[gentle iris]

ok

i also got a new project open to add stuff to see what breaks it

[somber sequoia]

kinda depends what you mean by that.

[earnest jay]

how would i add my heartbeat to vrchat with my applewatch SE?

[somber sequoia]

offhand, I don't

[somber sequoia]

I see a whole bunch of hits on google for "vrchat heartbeat" - did you try there?

(such as pulsoid)

so like, full-body animations? try mixamo.com

"the good ones" seems to be quite subjective 🙂

[earnest jay]

im a little confused on which ones lol , i saw something for hyperate and pulsoid and was scared away by the fact they even offer a subscription

[somber sequoia]

okay...

[gentle iris]

the wings are the problem

[opaque geyser]

so i have these 2 toggles and the way i have it set on the avatar the flare hand can be toggled when the grabpack isnt toggled is there a way to make it so i can only toggle the Flare hand when the grabpack toggle is enabled?

[opaque geyser]

for context of what im talking about

[somber sequoia]

this is VRC Fury, right?

[opaque geyser]

ya

should i use the original way to make toggles to do it?

[somber sequoia]

up to you I guess

no idea about the VRCFury part, but what the error means is that the animation clip itself doesn't animate anything on your avatar

[opaque geyser]

yes that is where you would add that

[opaque geyser]

idk im just kinda trying to find a way to make it i guess depend on the grabpack toggle

if that makes any sense?

[somber sequoia]

sure, it does - I can't help you with Fury, but I'd assume it can do this

[opaque geyser]

ah

il try the VRCfury discord server

probably should have started there

[gentle iris]

Found out the issue, the wings even if I remove them the issue doesn't fix

[toxic vale]

Hi im looking for a friend to help me fix a bug when uploading an avatar to vrchat it looks fine in unity but then in game the boobs and skirt go all wonky im thinking its the physbones but the other physbones like the hair still work fine

Pls just dm me if you are willing to help 🥹

[somber sequoia]

you'll likely have more luck if you post some details here

[toxic vale]

I dont want to flood this chat tho would that be rude

[solar violet]

Trying to setup an avatar that has gogoloco beyond on it. I don't know if it's that causing issues, but I looked at their documentation's faq/common issues and couldn't find anything relevant. Anyone know what's going on?

Removing those scripts causes way more issues when building

[somber sequoia]

it's literally what this chat is for

[somber sequoia]

seems like the prefab you are using requires you to install GogoLoco and VRCFury. Did you do that?

[solar violet]

Ahhh gotcha, that's probably it. Wish the model page listed all dependencies

Thanks boss

[toxic vale]

But i dont know what my issue is since it looks normal when testing in unity

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's really annoying when they don't

[somber sequoia]

like in play mode in Unity?

[toxic vale]

Yeah using the gesture manager

[somber sequoia]

yeah that likely reflects what will happen in game

[toxic vale]

Its normal there but in game it freaks out

[somber sequoia]

Please explain or show what you mean by "freaks out"

[toxic vale]

In unity it looks normal

I did make a custom standing

[somber sequoia]

sorry, which is "freaks out" here?

[toxic vale]

The right

[somber sequoia]

ok.... what's wrong here?

[toxic vale]

The boobs and skirt are wonky

[somber sequoia]

ok, I can see the skirt looks different, I'm assuming physbones

[toxic vale]

Yeah

But the hair and stuff are fine

I dont know what the issue is

Especially when it looks normal in unity

[somber sequoia]

are there physbone colliders pushing the skirt away maybe? I'd think those would have the same effect in play mode

[toxic vale]

There are colliders on the legs and chest but again it looks fine in unity

Also the boobs are set to ignore

And the skirt is too except the leg colliders that i put in

Tbh i went to school for unreal engine and this is my first avatar so who knows what i did wrong 😭

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, not sure what to tell you to look at if it works fine in play mode - maybe an animation moves something around?

[toxic vale]

I noticed the default standing animation plays on top of my custom one to make the avatar look like she is breathing vould that be it?

Thats the only difference between play mode and in game i could see

But i couldnt find the reference for it

[somber sequoia]

could be but you'd have to figure out how that works probably

[toxic vale]

Geez i figured if i just replace the standing with my own in the locomotion it would just work

Right?

[somber sequoia]

haven't done it myself but I'd have thought thats how it works

[toxic vale]

Yeah and it does in play mode 😭

I also tested by setting the locomotion back to default and it still does it in game

Google ai suggested putting a custom mask on all the layers in the fx to make it so it doesnt affect any bones there so i did that too

Really i only have one extra layer in the fx besides the normal hand gestures and its a simple blendshape to close my eyes when afk

That being said im using build and test and not publishing yet could it be a bug with that?

Or is vrcfury doing something to it when it builds the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

oh Fury does a LOT of things.

[toxic vale]

How would i fix that then?

[somber sequoia]

I don't really do fury and don't know what the problem actually is, so I can't suggest a solution

[toxic vale]

Well poop

[somber sequoia]

possibly others might know though!

[toxic vale]

I will wait and see then

[gaunt knoll]

fury doing what?

[somber sequoia]

that's the question

[toxic vale]

The boobs and skirt go all wonky in game but look fine in unity

[gaunt knoll]

looks like physbone colliders

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's what I thought too

[toxic vale]

Can the collider settings change while being built vs in unity?

[gaunt knoll]

better to not use them for skirts

[toxic vale]

But then the legs clip

[gaunt knoll]

angle limiter will got the exact same and you wont have funky stuff going on with it

[toxic vale]

I have hinge limiter currently

[pastel coral]

How do i fix this with vrcfury (one has armature linked and one unlinked)

[gaunt knoll]

mmm did you have it on before having the physbone colliders

[gaunt knoll]

play with fury settings for the link

[toxic vale]

Yeah i added yhe colliders so the legs dont clip through when moving

[pastel coral]

Yeah but how so
Like in the main prefab itself or the clothes cause I tried and yet they all keep sticking together-

[gaunt knoll]

did you have the hing limiter

[pastel coral]

The what?

[toxic vale]

Like sitting and weird leg movements

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah maybe the hinge limiter was messing with the colliders

Try turning the limiter off

[gaunt knoll]

For the component fury armature link there are settings

[toxic vale]

I will see

[gaunt knoll]

I believe it's called align position

You need to uncheck that

[pastel coral]

Lemme try that rq

That also didnt work-

[gaunt knoll]

Uncheck then all there's 3

[pastel coral]

do i uncheck all 3

[gaunt knoll]

Can you show the full thing

The full component

[pastel coral]

Which root should it be on?

I have it on both the armature of it and also the prefab in general

But when I have it on the armature as well without the advance settings (which I didn't know too much about till now) the clothes would just be sideways or be on the ground

[gaunt knoll]

Wait no that's not how armature link works it shouldn't be in the armature it should be on the object itself

Link doesn't go on the armature

[pastel coral]

Yeah but then when I do that everything is immediately unchecked which leaves no real room for advance settings

And then it ends up with the clothes just being stationary again

Normally when i do it like this it works out fine but not now

Plus when i've tried having everything linked to their things (the dress to spine the shoes to hips etc) it all moves as one still

[gaunt knoll]

wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff
But to do with armature link

It looks like the outfit is from booth does it not come with modular avatars

[pastel coral]

Im still wondering what it is this time

Its never usually like this

there is this thing tho-

[radiant night]

I want to change the rock & roll animation to a middle finger when I preview the default animation it seems to only show the animation halfway through even though its a 1 frame anim, why does it do this, does it have something to do with how there are 2 V3HandLayer controllers?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

[toxic vale]

so i did some more stuff on it and i fixed the boobs by decreasing its radius but i just noticed that the skirt moves with the arms in the standing animation for some reason despite being set to ignore everything except the leg colliders and that would explain why its only in game bc the gesture manager doesnt show the merged default breathing animation that i still cant find the reference to in unity

it also looks normal in the little thing above the apply avatar so maybe its just an issue with desktop i havent tested it in vr yet

[gaunt knoll]

If it was made for that Avi then you blend shape link

[sharp bear]

I'm trying to animate a running animation and it works fine in unity but when I build and test, it freezes on the last frame. I created from a new animation since the proxy animations had a weird movement thing every time i tried to run the animation. Any ideas on issues or how to fix?

[toxic vale]

yeah i turned on overlay and its showing a physbone on the hands and when i jump the skirt goes to normal so its interacting with the hands

[gaunt knoll]

Weird maybe the armature link messed up

[toxic vale]

i figured it out!

i set the skirt to ignore transforms on the wrist bones and then turned off colliders for self

[somber sequoia]

are you in desktop mode?

[vale nebula]

Question, I bought an avatar off someone but in order to use it i Need to upload it to vr chat and I don't have a computer to run unity on. can I pay someone to do all of it for me or is that against the rules..?

[gaunt knoll]

Oh and queue the bots

[vale nebula]

wut

[gaunt knoll]

Ask that question here https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

Delete that question

[somber sequoia]

?tag scam

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing you meant that

[gaunt knoll]

Traders works tho

I've seen people use it

[vale nebula]

ohh

okay thanks then

I'll be sure to check it out

[somber sequoia]

of course, sharing your login credentials is risky

[gaunt knoll]

Mhmm usually the person who you bought that Avi off of uploads them for free

[vale nebula]

i mean It's kinda new account so I don't have much to lose

maybe like my winter gun I got this last Christmas

is that important...

[gaunt knoll]

Love having stuff that's important but I can't touch for real

[dense snow]

i just finalized an avatar and tested it ingame and I found a weird bug where the knees bend inwards while standing as if the avatar is trying to avoid pissing themselves

I already tested it in unity with the gesture manager and it showed no such pose

[lilac musk]

Knees need to have a slight bend to them for IK to work properly

[dense snow]

ah

in the model, or when rigging?

[lilac musk]

Rigging

[dense snow]

alright, i will give that a go and be back in 30 to post results, ty

[junior void]

While you're on it, do the same to the elbows

[proper depot]

How does one make a follower on your avatar quest compatible? My unity wants to kill it with fire xDD

[lunar gulch]

Hello

[dense snow]

the constraints have been replaced with theh new VRC compatible constraints a while ago, also try the VRC Mobile materials. You may have to update your SDK first with the creator companion first

Just now seeing the elbow post >_<

[dense snow]

actually just remembered that i have actual independent knee and elbow bones that are separate from upper and lower limbs so as to smooth out the mesh around those body parts when flexing, but never actually animated them for locomotion.

However I found a way to avoid animating them by using constraints. @proper depot You will want to check this out too.
I used blocks to illustrate the rotation of the elbow bones in conjunction to the rotating forearm. Just be sure to click the activate button on the constraints.

[formal sigil]

How does one make their avi quest compatible when uploading to the sdk creator? Or rather, edit their avatar to become quest compatible?
I just got a headset recently and want to use the personal avatar I made in quest vr

[ornate stump]

Select build target change to Android, resolve error, then upload the avatar as same blueprint ID

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha, and many thanks there!

[proven quail]

for the material, find the material you forgot to switch to quest mats. For the follower, do the 2nd auto fix first. This will replace the old outdated unity constraints with vrc constraints. Then, you can auto fix the first one, where it will remove the sphere collider and audio source (you just can't have these on quest and there isn't any 1:1 replacement component)

also, followers usually have a physbone for grab and then can also have physbones on the follower itself. Check your validations to see the physbone component and transform count to make sure you are within the 8 components 64 transforms limit.

[honest violet]

@pine valley sorry to bother u again but all of the models are saying problems similar to this

[pine valley]

this is a limitation of humanoid rigs: they can't deal with non-unique humanoid bone names

(even if the path is different)

[civic geode]

Just curious if anyone knows why u vrchat renames the term Boogaloo to Bogeyman if u try to set that as the avatr name?

[pine valley]

you could split the model into two fbx files, perhaps

[somber sequoia]

that's probably what I would do in this case.

[distant nimbus]

any idea as to whats causing this discoloration between unity and in-game??

[somber sequoia]

is that in play mode in Unity?

[distant nimbus]

noo, just scene

[somber sequoia]

test in play mode.

[distant nimbus]

while that loads... i changed the material previously to make it more metallic for golden boots.. i took off my edits, now she looks like that. i also tried copying the other material for it and pasting it over, then switching the texture, and that also didnt work considering it was a black matieral

playmode looks normal

[somber sequoia]

ok good. So in game you have world lighting to contend with, in the editor you just have that one light, unless you use a tool like Hai's lightbox viewer to simulate that. I'd probably start looking there, in your shader settings.

[distant nimbus]

i guess im just.. confused bc i have another version of her uploaded BEFORE i did the edits, and if i change into her, this world looks entirely fine with the boots

[somber sequoia]

which edits did you do?

[distant nimbus]

i just added a matcap

and recolored under the matcap

and the matcap is now disabled

1st version of the avatar in the same world^

[lean fulcrum]

Is it safe to open an old unity project in a new installation? I haven't touched Unity in years and i don't want to mess up my old avatars

[somber sequoia]

if it wasn't using Unity 2022, when you switch it to do so, it should attempt to auto-update. You'll likely need to update the packages it used also, usually via VCC or alcom

[lean fulcrum]

The project is from 2021, I mainly just want to export the models from the unitypackage files, as i seem to have misplaced the original blend files

[somber sequoia]

You shouldn't need to open it to get the model files, they'll be on disk

[distant nimbus]

i fixed them!! ty anyways for the help kazin : )

[somber sequoia]

oh what was it?

[lean fulcrum]

OH! god i'm fool

[distant nimbus]

i just ended up grabbing another white material and switching the texture LOL, the laziest way

[somber sequoia]

hah, nice

[somber osprey]

using goco loco

how do I change the sitting height default?

everytime I sit down in world seats, my avi goes too low

[pine valley]

Unity itself would have no issue, but this would wind up upgrading some saved data in the project, so it'd be unsafe to reopen it in a 2021 version

and the project might depend on things that don't work in 2022

[lean fulcrum]

I don't have the 2021 version any more, i'm just recovering files from my old computer

[pine valley]

ah, then it's not that relevant

but yeah, just grab the files :p

Make sure to also copy over the .meta files

This will preserve your importer settings and references between assets

Otherwise, Unity will think these are brand-new models, materials, etc. and give them new IDs

and none of your references to them will be valid anymore

[junior veldt]

So this avatar I uploaded years ago I lost the files for but I wanna go back and edit it. Is there a way to get the avi files from vrchat because I uploaded it?

[balmy barn]

nope that is very much against tos

vrhcat is not a place for you to store files to download from it later backups handy

[pine valley]

more generally, it is annoying to recover project files from a unity asset bundle

(you'd call this "Ripping")

[earnest wind]

so im trying to make a new file in my creator companion, and for some reason it wont let me. i had to move all my files to a bigger drive, but now all its doing is whats shown in the image. it wont let me make a new project or link an existing one. does anyone know what im doing wrong?

[somber sequoia]

note that #creator-companion may be a better place to ask this

[earnest wind]

👌

[hasty gorge]

dose anyone know why this sun fwuitcuppy model isnt working with its rig the top 3 are my problem

[pine valley]

sounds like the humanoid avatar configuration is all wrong

click the model asset in the Project window, then go to "Rig" in the inspector and hit Configure

[hasty gorge]

this is what it says

[hasty gorge]

are you able to hop on a vc by chance

[somber sequoia]

Before you click Configure make sure there is not a warning in that window

[hasty gorge]

theres nothing

so what do i do now

[rapid moat]

I wanna make it mothe with the world and not a singular bone

[shy anvil]

If my avatar appears under where its supposed when i get in game but its only for quest whats the problem

[lilac musk]

You need to upload the PC side under the same ID as it

[shy anvil]

i did TvT

[honest violet]

@pine valley so how should i fix this?

[elfin depot]

Does anyone know why my VRC CC is like, so unbelievably slow?

takes like 30 minutes to load the project management thing, so i cant upload anything because i cant update the SDK in creator companion ;/

[radiant night]

I want to change the rock & roll animation to a middle finger when I preview the default animation it seems to only show the animation halfway through even though its a 1 frame anim, why does it do this, does it have something to do with how there are 2 V3HandLayer controllers?
Or am I misunderstanding something?

[balmy barn]

duplicate fist animation - change middle finger values ( or just copy it from another animation ) and dont name it proxy_ (vrchat will override them) , these are mixamo animations so vrchat only have the 1 frame one since they cant host the full

[pine valley]

i know it's a bit slow, but that's ridiculously slow!

the logs may have something interesting in them

[gaunt knoll]

How much storage do you have

And please do send logs

[elfin depot]

i got 1TB total and 160 GB spare :P

[elfin depot]

yessir 🫡

[gaunt knoll]

That's fine as longs as it's more then 5 to 10

[elfin depot]

do i js send a txt file?

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah the most lasted one

Mmm can you send your package screen on CC please

[elfin depot]

sure gimmie a mo

[elfin depot]

i think this is the right bit-

[balmy barn]

proxy fist edit to middle finger , your values might be different (edit left if you need it on both) then just add it to gesture controller on the rock&roll state

(duplicate and rename vrchat default proxy fist probably dont keep it in package folder either)

10.0.26200.0 is abit behind on updates, doubt it would mess up vcc tho

[gaunt knoll]

Sorry I should have been more specific can you please open your manage packages it's next to open projects

[elfin depot]

Ohhhh okay, ill uh do so on the one im currently trying to update (but its the same with seemingly all of my projects)

[gaunt knoll]

Huh weird you don't have a lot but the logs seem to be having a hard time loading them

Are you attached to CC or are you okay switching to a 3rd party

[elfin depot]

uhh ive been using it for like..a year by now ;w;

[elfin depot]

not sure either, it looks like it gets to the wholesome assets and gives up, but ive never had a problem before, like it loaded in a few seconds easy peasy

[gaunt knoll]

Maybe try removing it and adding it again to CC

Maybe it updated and it's got some corrupt files

Do you know where you got the logs

Theirs a file there called repo

You can delete that it stores the cash for your packages

It will be remade once you open CC again

Fresh file might work

[elfin depot]

Ill try the latter first

[elfin depot]

It uh seemingly hasnt done much

[shy anvil]

everytime i go to upload a quest avatar i converted the textures disappear when i enter playmode and get in game

someone pls help TvT

[gaunt knoll]

https://vrc-get.anatawa12.com/en/alcom/

Give it a go

[elfin depot]

will do, and i appreciate all the help btw ^^

Update, all the stuff is updated and in less than like a minute which is awesome, and unity is currently opening so ill see how it looks when unity is done loadin

[gaunt knoll]

Alcom uses the same files as CC and it's more lightweight and faster

[elfin depot]

And everything seems great, thank you so very much!! :D

[trim rover]

i'm having some issues with the animator track countrol

it seems to work in one sopt but not another when i have it set identically

the animation is triggering in the animator but why not the th tracking countrol?

this is how it's set up when it's working

and this is how it's set up when it's not

like does any state HAVE to be included for it to work?

even if it's just an on off switch?

[balmy barn]

dont use any state for simple on<>off , you have 'can transition to self' set default wich makes it hammer the state aloooot instead of once , empty states also does the same it will constnatly constantly look , i also dont trust 0 transition time seen that mess up

[trim rover]

how do i dissable can transition to self?

als the example whare it works correctly also uses 0 transition time

[trim rover]

there is no "can transition to self" option in the one that doesn't work

in fact the only one working is the one with can transition to self turned on

well even adding any state to the not working example doesn't work

wtf

increasing the transition time doesnt fix it, using any state doesn't fix it, using any state with can transition to self dissabled doesn't fix it, and setting ti up identically to how it's set up in an animation layer whare it is working doesn't fix it

[proven dome]

does anyone know how to fix this?

im kinda confused

[hollow sand]

Why is the recently used avatar tab constantly wrong now ???

[trim rover]

i thought maybe it was the fact that the componet was used in another animation layer but even after disabeling it in the other layer it doesn't work

why the hell does it work once and then never again no matter what i try

oh f**k it i'm just going to shove everything into the one animation that's actually working

i have no idea why it only works on that one animation layer but that's how it is for some reason

[primal swift]

how do i search for a vrc head chop component in the hierarchy

im trying to remove it from an avatar but it just wont go away, so i figure i must've somehow duplicated the component

[scenic ether]

Out of curiousity, can you real quick show me your layers tab

[scenic ether]

t:vrcheadchop or smth close to it

I could be wrong, 1 sec

[scenic ether]

Alrighty, was just making sure, give me a few to read previous chats and I'll see if I can help

[formal sigil]

For making an avatar quest compatible, what do I do for it? Do I hit it for Android? I'm guessing there's some extra steps involved too

[manic copper]

I’m trying to upload an avatar. It says it failed and “Avatar Validation failed”. What should I do

[scenic ether]

Uncheck windows, check android, it'll change some stuff and will change your warnings to match what you need for a quest upload

[scenic ether]

Show your warnings

[manic copper]

I’m a dummy when it comes to this so

Idk what I’m doing

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha, and it should still remain compatible for pc as well? Since I made it for that first

[manic copper]

Yes it will!

[scenic ether]

Yes, aslong as you keep the same blueprint ID

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha and thanks!! And where is the blueprint ID at? So I know not to mess with it and ensure it remains the same

[scenic ether]

You need to fix all of those

[manic copper]

How…

[scenic ether]

Your uploading to a quest build but using shades that arent the standard vrc shaders

Ill explain a bit better in a second when im upstairs

[manic copper]

Ok

We can also do a VC if you’d like

[formal sigil]

It's not letting me select the Android option for my avatar in the builder

[high zenith]

Trying to help a friend with a problem they're having with an avatar they're making for me.
The head of the avatar in vrchat is slightly tilted, from what I know in unity and blender it's fine, it's just in the game itself that the head has this tilt.
Face accessories don't have this tilt, just the head base. Anyone how how to fix this?

[manic copper]

Noooo

Whe I change the eyebrow shader, it does this

Idk what to do with that

[formal sigil]

Is the reason my avatar isn't quest compatible is because it's not optimized enough?

[gaunt knoll]

you dont have quest support installed on your unity

[formal sigil]

I do not, I'm guessing I'll need to get that downloaded then? That's an odd on I can get in the creator companion?

[gaunt knoll]

oh it does

you just dont read

[formal sigil]

Fair enough, I do tend to miss things and this is sorta my first time doing this stuff for creator companion

[gaunt knoll]

all good

sometimes it looks like this

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha, grabbing that right now

This may struggle a bit...

[junior crag]

been making an avatar for a couple and the emotes i put are not showing up

[formal sigil]

Not exactly sure on what I need to get fixed now...

[left gull]

the topmost error in the SDK panel needs to be fixed before uploading

standard isnt supported for that platform

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha, so I just need to get that adjusted then

Which is the shader issues and pixel highlights? On the follow up, how do I get that fixed?

[left gull]

find the mesh using that shader and swap its material with one using a shader under VRChat/Mobile

might not be easily visble so you can select each mesh individually and just go to their material's dropdown in the inspector to see if they're using an incorrect material

[formal sigil]

Ah gotcha, finding all the different stuff I need to fix right now

And that worked!!

[mortal hill]

can anyone help me im having a toggle issue for my quest side of my pc+quest avatar, im on pc and for quest users the toggles for the quest clothing arent toggled unless i wear a specific outfit on the pc side, how can i make it so the clothes on the quest side are always showing without me needing to switch my pc avatars clothes?

[somber sequoia]

make sure you use the same avatar parameters list for both avatars.

[junior crag]

i want to make a toggle that changes each of these blendshapes to 100 individually, i have tried for way too long

[junior crag]

yo can i get some help

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for help. Just ask your questions, perhaps someone might answer.

[gentle iris]

how do i fix this?

i press gesture manager and that happens

[trim rover]

how can i prevent an animation from looping?

[somber sequoia]

make sure the looping checkbox on the animation clip is unchecked, make sure the animator stays in the state rather than looping back to it, such as it might do with AnyState transitions

[gentle iris]

anyone able to help with this?

[trim rover]

loop time is disabled and it stays in the state but the animation still loops in vrchat

[somber sequoia]

does it go back and forth between these states? if so, check your transitions

[trim rover]

i allready did, it's not looping between the two states and it can only transition if an aditional condition is met

[somber sequoia]

okay, not sure why it'd loop then.

[trim rover]

it's looing while staying in the one state despite the fact loop time has allready been disabled

unless there is somethign else i need to dissable?

[gentle iris]

how do i fix this?

[trim rover]

is that a boundign box?

[somber sequoia]

or a collider? Provide more detail please.

[gentle iris]

i think its the boundary box

[somber osprey]

I'm trying to make a Parameter using "FaceType"

but this dropdown menu doesn't have that parameter. what do I do?

[somber sequoia]

add it to the parameters list

[gentle iris]

it is the boundary box

[somber sequoia]

if that's the bounding box it means your avatar takes up that much space. what is it you want to fix?

[gentle iris]

i want to fix the boundary box

[somber sequoia]

fix it in what way though? what do you feel is broken?

[somber osprey]

where and how?

[somber sequoia]

the list is in that slot at the top right of the image you pasted.

as for how, the documentation on this part is here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls

[gentle iris]

the box is too big for my small avatar

and my avatar is at the top of it

[somber sequoia]

Is your avatar not located at 0,0,0? Perhaps its origin is not there?

or it has some part/asset/whatever that's huge?

[gentle iris]

its at 0,0,0 and has no assets

[somber sequoia]

okay, it's not clear from just the pic what's wrong

[gentle iris]

it does this when in play mode and in vrchat, thats pretty much all i can explain

im looking at the rig in unity and it does this for the left toe?

google isnt any help

would giving up be the best choice rn?

[scenic ether]

Throw it in blender, click on the armature and see if theres something wrong with the bones down there

[scenic ether]

Giving up is never the solution

[gentle iris]

ok

in edit mode, blender shows nothing under the avatar or armature

i checked many times and nothing

@scenic ether sorry for the ping but heres the model in both blender and unity, i checked for anything under it and nothing

[scenic ether]

Zoom in on the foot thats bugged out in blender

Are the bones properly parented and connected?

[somber sequoia]

check the bone roll for each humanoid bone, it should be 0 for all except maybe fingers/toes

[gentle iris]

bones all work correctly

[scenic ether]

Check what kazin said above, they'll most likely be able to help you better then I can

[gentle iris]

how would i check bone roll?

[somber sequoia]

click a bone in edit mode, it's in the item properties

[gentle iris]

the bones all seem to be in the right position

changed a setting in export and now he just lays down

[chilly solar]

why dont my vrc fury toggles save, they turn off randomly and when i switch back into my avi

[gentle iris]

there should be a setting in options when you add the toggle

[chilly solar]

so i assume i should do save between worlds, and is there anything else? does use global parameter mean using a parameter ive added and then maybe i can make sure those are all saved or do i not need that

[gentle iris]

i think save between worlds is what you need and the 2nd part im not sure

[chilly solar]

ooo okie okie if anyone else knows please lmk! :o

[chilly solar]

im gonna try to explain this the best i can, but why when i add a physbone component to a root bone with a bunch of child bones does it only make the ones with more than 1 single bone have physics and the rest dont work? you can see here theres a physbone component on my root bone, and theres a couple little bones in the feathers, all of which are supposed to be there but theres a few lower feathers with nothing. they are children of the root bone and should be showing up. yesterday i did it and it worked as intended with all the feather bones showing there and being physbones. idk if that makes any sense but im confused

[mental swift]

Why bro pulling this when testing lmao his whole body turns the opposite direction lol

[ornate stump]

Probably the model local orientation is opposite or bone sides are mirror left-right.

[mental swift]

Is there anyway to fix this issue?

[ornate stump]

Verify the issue and fix in blender.

[shy cliff]

when using sily miku why does this happen then i can see trou walls

[wanton cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shock-shocked-dead-jump-gif-15154227813236207344

damn i forgot

[languid knoll]

Hello. Does anyone know if the avatar collider capsule stays the same size for all avatar heights? And if yes, how tall is it?

Also, what is the maximum height difference (for example for stairs) that an avatar can walk over (so like max height of a step)

[vague cedar]

Hi everyone, I’m still relatively new to avatar creation and could use some help with Poiyomi Toon.

I’ve been working with the particle glitter settings, but I’ve found that the default shape presets are limited to circles and squares. While I’ve successfully imported a custom transparent PNG into the particle hierarchy, I’m struggling to get the effect to 'stick' to my avatar’s jacket. I want the glitter to stay fixed to the mesh rather than floating or moving independently.

Does anyone have advice or a tutorial recommendation on how to make custom particle shapes behave as a fixed texture on a specific part of an avatar’s mesh? Any guidance would be much appreciated! #avatar-help

[uneven whale]

Hello. I'm using Gogo Loco via Modular Avatar, and I noticed that some poses aren't resetting when I re-enter the game and are starting to break. The Vrcfury version works fine, but I need to install the MA version. How can I fix this?

[proud tusk]

how do I have it so this white circle in the middle doesn't have to be flat for the eyes to face forward?

[proven quail]

Is there a specific reason why you can't use the vrcfury one? I usually use vrcfury for gogo and toggles, and use modular for outfit setup.

[proven quail]

So, you are using poiyomi or a particle emitter to do the glitter?

[uneven whale]

Because if I use vrcfury gogoloco, the hand animation movement system won't work

[proven quail]

So is there a modular avatar prefab for gogo? Or are you making your own?

[uneven whale]

Yes, it exists, and the problem I showed in the video happens with all avatars

[pearl furnace]

Is there a video tutorial of how to make armature bones on vrchat. im trying to make a tail to have bones (physics), but it wouldn't stick to the armature no matter what i do.

[vague cedar]

im sorry im using poiyomi

[proven quail]

No apologies needed, I'm getting home soon I'll take a look at poiyomi soon and see what your talking about

[proven quail]

does the tail have its own armature? make sure you put the physbone componenet on the tail bones.

[proven quail]

so it seems poiyomi toon glitter is working as expected for me. Does your shader package need an update?

[scenic ether]

Maybe take a screenshot of only t-

Nvm

What are you asking abt

[vague cedar]

I used GIMP to make the background of my image transparent, but I think that’s where I went wrong because Unity wouldnt let me drag and drop the file. I probably should have left it as it was! It has been a 46-hour saga trying to figure this out; I couldn't find any clear explanations on YouTube, and the AI I used previously was misleading. You’ve been a lifesaver thank you, and be blessed!

[proven quail]

Don't even bother with AI with tech support

I right clicked your image and saved as a png, and it worked for me

but yeah you don't really need to remove the black background when using additive

[ornate stump]

You can't make bones visible without external script.

[proven quail]

you can't see the bones in unity. If you add a physbone though, you can see where the bones are by looking at where the physbones show up

as long as this is clicked on (blue) you should be able to see physbones

[vague cedar]

it was just a tiny misunderstanding that ai couldnt explain but atleast it said it was possible thats why i didnt give up. but again thanks alot. this will my new spot incase i end up in some other trouble. though i wonder why youtube is so shallow with avatar creation topics and most are even outdated. i wonder if the issue is their isnt much content from the creators or the alogarithm just buries new videos cause of views

[proven quail]

honestly just skip the AI and come to discord. you will get more helpful information from real people that actually have the ability to understand and process information. AIs are word generators. They sound really human but thats because they are really good at generating words. They can't think or understand what they spit out.

[vague cedar]

noted

[pearl furnace]

I fixed the problem. i just needed to weight paint it xd

[proven quail]

AI basically is like if you took a person and gave them infinity time to arrange shapes to get the most points. Each shape has a different point value, and the different order of shapes gives different point values and such. The person can arrange very high points giving patterns of shapes without understanding anything about the shapes or what they are actually communicating. Now, get rid of the person, and program something to arrange and check shape value combinations. Thats AI. It doesn't have the capability to understand that its communicating at all, let alone what it communicates. So many people think AI can do all these things that it doesn't make sense to have an AI do. Don't worry, CEOs make alot of money to make the same mistake, except their misunderstanding of AI is currently driving ram prices up and causing increasing energy costs in the neighborhoods surrounding data centers.

[chrome blade]

My avatar’s legs are glitching and randomly flipping. It never happened when I tested at home, but on the stage, it sometimes just goes bonkers. It might not be super clear in this GIF since I cannot recreate it at home, but you can see the legs suddenly flip (looks like a faint shadow as it is very fast).

Any idea what I should look at?

[odd wren]

hey anyone know how to get VRC SDK off my screen the top right thing i cant seam to close it normally I'm new at this

[ornate stump]

You can click on the panel window to focus and hit ESC key.

[chrome blade]

Not the same issue, but I was able to recreate this at home.

I made this using an online 3D model generator. This doesn't have a clean mesh. So, deformation is wild... But my current issue is that it just feels unstable and bends a lot when I don't expect it to. Like at the end of this video... it keeps on happening even if I am not moving.
Like in the gif above, the actor is barely doing anything, but the leg just goes bonkers, and sometimes it lasts for a while.

[round comet]

(Just pasting this from another server)

I’m having this really weird issue where all of my avatar’s facial expressions work excluding the one for “open hand”

Could this be a write defaults issue? Or maybe something to do with the gesture layer? I’m also using vrcfury’s fix write defaults but I don’t think that’d break it since every other facial expression is functional

[balmy barn]

straighten bones (blender) probably wrong rotation

should be similar to that one

[chrome blade]

Thank you. I will check that out.

[somber osprey]

in the Animation box. how do I select the avi's Rig?

Cause I wanna do a body pose state through animation

[round comet]

Anyone have a clue

It also works w gesture manager

Just not in-game for some reason

[round comet]

The issue wasnt with write defaults, the gesture layer or OSC so I’m honestly stumped. I also tested it by deleting vrcfury’s gogo from the avatar and that didn’t change anything either

[round comet]

update: the bug was from using the default blink. Because it was the same blendshape that I used for the blink on eyelook, the expression refused to function in game. The solution was making a new blendshape specifically for the expression guh

[zenith stag]

anyone knows how to fix this..? i cant find anything that helps me on google

[balmy barn]

4 of 25 red errors show, top ones are important , but you should get a newer av3 emulator is my guess

seeing as its in asset and not packages probably very old

vcc

[pine valley]

yeah, install it through the VCC to make sure it's up-to-date

[pine valley]

that'll do it! VRChat sets those parameters through its own scripts (and that happens after the animator runs)

[hazy quest]

Eyes rotated backwards when in Unity's Play-mode.
Eye rotations are setup correctly. The eyes in-game are fine.

[austere bay]

usually happens to me when I use the wrong eye bones or they're not set up properly

just go through the cats setup and replace the fbx?

[somber sequoia]

Eye bones should be perfectly vertical, with 0 bone roll, and the head should be at the center of rotation.

[austere bay]

not sure how i've set this up wrong, video goes through everything but I'm trying to toggle the particles above my avatars head. I like putting all the interactions at the bottom of my heirarchy, I know it's not the most optimised method but it's my main avatar and idrc :p it should still work, this is how I've always done it

[hazy quest]

Replace the FBX? Wdym?

This usually happens after I've setup VRChat setup, and go back in Blender, use the Cats plugin to Fix the eye rotation.

[hazy quest]

They are perfectly vertical and with 0 Roll

[round comet]

Anyone know the dimensions for a vrchat avatar thumbnail

[austere bay]

4:3 i think

[hazy quest]

Oh, why didn't I think of your message as this 🫠😶.....

[austere bay]

1200x900

[round comet]

Oo ok, tytyy

[dawn estuary]

hey, how do i export an avatar as a unity package, im trying to give it to my friend since i originally made it for him but now since he has a computer now i wanna give it to him for his use.

[balmy barn]

if theres only one avatar in the project you can use vcc backup all they would need to do then is extract and add as exsising project in vcc , otherwise right click - export as package < havnt done that in awhile so blurry what other it'd need if any

[somber sequoia]

when you do export as a package, make sure you don't include any add-on packages in the assets folder.

have your friend install those the proper way

Also it should be said that if you're doing this for a paid avatar base or assets, your friend will need to purchase those as well.

[somber osprey]

how do I include the Avi's rig to the animation?

I wanna do a full body pose

[pine valley]

export the scene asset that contains the avatar; this will pull in all dependencies

[austere bay]

loads of people have already explained but here's a little video to follow along :p

[balmy barn]

one reason i use vcc backup, dont have to teach anyone where/how to add packages its all just there vcc will know how to update any added since they appear in [ manage project ]

[somber sequoia]

I assume that omits the Library folder?

[clear tapir]

Is there a way to make a Hue-saturation-brightness slider?

I got hue working

But saturation and brightness override eachother

[somber sequoia]

Do they do that when you change those properties manually in Unity?

[clear tapir]

Yes

I have one slider for saturation, and one for brightness

[somber sequoia]

I mean on the material itself, in the shader properties, not via your slider in the menu.

[clear tapir]

Thats what i mean

they work individually but not together

[somber sequoia]

Then that's a feature or bug of the shader. But those properties do kinda work together

[clear tapir]

The way i did it is for saturation it goes from white to red, and for brightness it goes black to white

Hue is using the hueshift slider

[inland gyro]

attempting to get outlines for the bangs on my avatar's hair, but the outlines arent visible from the front. shown in the first 5 images are the hair, and shown in image 6 is what happens when i select the bangs and extrude towards the inside of the head then flip normals. anyone know how i could fix this?
using lilToonOutline, changing width doesnt help anything

[inland gyro]

for added context, im attempting to replicate this style of outline in the bangs (not the stencil!)

[dawn estuary]

It’s not paid. Like I said I made it specifically for him

[dawn estuary]

Thx

[somber sequoia]

Yep, was just saying just in case.

[junior crag]

tried to replace albedo textures and this happened any idea what i did wrong?

[somber sequoia]

something about the shader is broken, can't tell from this image.

[somber osprey]

how do I include the Avi's rig to the animation?

I wanna do a full body pose

[junior crag]

what image would you need?

[somber sequoia]

it's more that you need to investigate the material now.

[junior crag]

hm?

i swapped an albedo texture and when in unity it looks fine but it doesnt work in vrc

[junior crag]

i dont follow

[somber sequoia]

Your material is broken, you need to investigate. Find it, look in the inspector, see if anything is off, feel free to paste it.

Test in play mode in Unity with gesture manager or av3 emulator so you can see what happens "in game" - it could be there's a material swap animation happening.

[junior crag]

i cross referenced it with the previous albedo and added anything the old version had

there is however this

[somber sequoia]

poiyomi 8 is pretty old, but ought to work

[rugged spear]

Does anyone know what this error means?

And how do I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

it means nothing useful - I recommend taking a look at the console for more details.

[rugged spear]

I see it talking about the blueprint but nothing else

[primal swift]

this thing has been happening to me a lot lately, and i never know what i do that fixes it

[somber sequoia]

Find the first 2-3 errors and paste them here

[rugged spear]

UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object)

[muted night]

How do you lock a Held World Item to your hand during Emote Animations? I've seen people do it in Terrors of Nowhere where they had their Sword/Coil stay locked to their hands during their Emotes

[somber sequoia]

ideally do a screenshot so we can see if they're actually errors and if you actually scrolled to the top 🙂

[somber sequoia]

summaries are fine, and clipping this message too close is making this difficult.

sighs.

[rugged spear]

Look man I don't know what you are asking

I am trying my best here

[somber sequoia]

Scroll to the top of the console, and screenshot the entire width of the console window, with the header, so we can see the first 2-3 error summaries.
Remember errors are red.

[prisma sedge]

Follow this video

[somber sequoia]

I need to bookmark this message

[prisma sedge]

Its pinned here

[somber sequoia]

oh! How did I not notice?

Yes, do exactly this, showing the first (i.e. at the top) errors.

[somber sequoia]

That second one is a problem

In your avatar descriptor where you setup the visemes, make sure the proper mesh is in the slot.

[rugged spear]

Uuuuhh

Hold up

[somber sequoia]

(also to be clear, we asked for the whole console window with the scrollbar and the error count specifically to be sure we know we're looking at the root cause errors, and not some side-effect error)

[balmy barn]

Fix that one , sdk might not like it

[rugged spear]

I dont know where to find that

[balmy barn]

root of avatar, descriptor where you set your visemes

[somber sequoia]

I told you where?

and how to fix it

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar#viseme-blend-shape-recommended

^ includes an image showing it

[rugged spear]

That seemed to fix it

Thank you

[rustic light]

so my avatar keeps breaking whenever i port her into unity, no clue whats going on. the bones work perfectly fine in blender and i cant seem to find anything thats making it break. any help is appreciated

[somber sequoia]

describe "breaking"

[rustic light]

the face is messed up like the mesh is morphed

and the back is kinda arched compared to the blender model

[somber sequoia]

the face could be blendshapes - try resetting them all, right-click the header of the list and there should be an option there

not sure what you mean by back arched from these pics

[rustic light]

lemme send a pic

[somber sequoia]

is this very low-poly?

kinda looks it

[somber sequoia]

yeah check the blendshapes first

[rustic light]

in blender or unity for the blendshapes? sorry im new to this stuff lol

[muted night]

Is there any documented way of doing this? I KNOW it's possible

[somber sequoia]

unity

[somber sequoia]

it's not really an avatar development thing, maybe try in one of the other support channels

[muted night]

How is it not? It affects held items.

The item locks to the Animated Hands of your avatar, I don't know how a World would allow a thing for a specific person

[rustic light]

i pressed revert on the header but nothing happened

[somber sequoia]

Ok I was guessing.

[muted night]

I genuinely cannot understand how my problem isn't Avatar related

[somber sequoia]

I didn't say it wasn't, I said it wasn't avatar development related, which is what this channel is for.

Assuming you didn't do something weird to your default hand colliders, there's nothing else for here.

A good way to test is if it affects all avatars then it's not specific to the avatar.

[rustic light]

so it might actually be the bones, just checked what the face looks like in unity and its pretty jumbled up compared to the one in blender

[somber sequoia]

oh interesting - what are those face bones?

[rustic light]

the ones in blender is like for the muzzle, jaw, tongue, eyes, the blue is hair and the magenta is ears

[somber sequoia]

are they mapped weirdly in the rig setup or something?

[rustic light]

i have no idea, how do i check that?

i got the model commissioned so i didnt rig it myself

[somber sequoia]

that left pic there is in the rig setup, right? While that's open there's a list of bones, make sure they're in the right slots

[rustic light]

yeah the left pic is the rig setup in unity, i set all of the stuff in the right slots but nothing happened so far

[somber sequoia]

make sure you check the other tabs, like the head one

(and probably remove the jaw from its slot unless you use that for speaking)

[rustic light]

the eyes are named wrong but they still work

[somber sequoia]

oh you probably want the right eye in the right eye slot.

[rustic light]

the modeler named the right eye left eye

[somber sequoia]

...

o...kay.

[rustic light]

wait does it mean like when youre looking at the model or if you were the model

if that makes sense

nvm hold on 😭

[somber sequoia]

no

right is right, like the one in your IRL head 🙂

[rustic light]

sorry i got confused

so i removed the hair and this is what it looks like underneath

[fiery lily]

does anyone have tips for making gumroad clothes fit to a booth base model? i.e. weight painting, armature transfer and sculpting

[austere bay]

thats a pretty broad request T-T

if you want help with weight painting, armature transfer or sculpting specifically I'd be happy to help!!

[fiery lily]

sorry i can refine it downif needed

[fiery lily]

that would be appreciated!

[austere bay]

I mean lmk what you need help with- what are you struggling with specifically

[fiery lily]

Im trying to fit this compression shirt to a minase base i will assume that the shirt is rigged to a Akii base model

ive sculpted before but always turns out the weight is not matched so it clips and I'm having trouble at that point

[austere bay]

okay, gimme a minute!! I'll just record a video explaining it, it's a lot to explain in text

[austere bay]

my boyfriends asleep so im kind of whispering sorry!!

Basically
Step 1: Delete all vertext groups, if the shirt is rigged to a different base then none of it is really relevant unless it uses it's own bones (for physics)
Step 2: (only if it has an armature already) ALT+P -> Clear and Keep Transforms
Step 3: Delete All Modifiers (should just be armature)
Step 4: Add "Data Transfer" Modifier
Step 5: Use the Eye Dropper Tool to select your base mesh
Step 6: Under the "Data Transfer" menu enable "Vertext Data" and open the drop down menu for it
Step 7: Select "Vertext Groups" and change the mapping to "Nearest Face Interpolated"
Step 8: Apply the "Data Transfer" Modifier
Step 9: Select your shirt mesh, then your armature and click CTRL+P -> Armature Deform
Step 10: Test weights, if there's issues you'll have to manually fix them, I can make a tutorial if I'm awake and can be arsed :p

hope that all makes sense!!

[stoic summit]

currently trying to add this kind of shader to one of the eyes of my model, and not sure how. If i could get some help that would be awesome :)

[fiery lily]

Awesome thanks! no problem on that totally understand been there with my gf lol but I remember you you helped me out 2 years ago!

[austere bay]

omg haha, I feel so old T-T

I've been doing this for over two years?

[fiery lily]

i hate to break it to you so have I

[austere bay]

they also have it panning

so just play around with that

[somber sequoia]

upgrade poi to get light volumes support.

[austere bay]

when did poi get an upgrade?

[somber sequoia]

since that version? like, a lot

[austere bay]

I haven't really been on vrchat for like a year

I didn't realise T-T

I've been using 8.2 thinking it's the most recent :(

[proud tusk]

still dealing with this

[somber sequoia]

what is the white circle?

[fiery lily]

worked like a charm just minor tweaks on the sculpt but I appreciate the clarifications!

[lean fulcrum]

I'm trying to update an old project using VCC and i'm getting this error, am i just completely cooked?

[somber sequoia]

possibly try #creator-companion

[lean fulcrum]

okay

[fiery lily]

now just the weight painting...

[stoic summit]

trying to do this with just one eye, do i need to create a whole new child for the eye?

[cobalt phoenix]

does anyone know if theres any quest replacements for box/sphere colliders ? physbone colliders dont work ; its for a follower to switch between idle and run animations

[somber sequoia]

nope, no unity colliders on quest

[cobalt phoenix]

massive frown . quest is so lacking :/ thank you

[fiery lily]

only so much a quest can handle unfortunately physbone was a huge break through back in my day ... 🧓

[cobalt phoenix]

ill just have to tough it out until steam deck lol . or just play on pcvr now but the quality is pretty bad there haha

[austere bay]

idk how to do that in unity but in blender just assign a different material to the other eye

[somber sequoia]

that's how you do it

[fiery lily]

looks like a booth so they would use a single material slot and texture for both eyes that as far as my knowledge goes...

[somber sequoia]

Sure, but you can change that in Blender if you want

not in Unity

[fiery lily]

ah yes read way too fast there youre right on that

[stoic summit]

ive only got one face mesh to work with

im still new to unity and blender 😭

[somber sequoia]

that's ok - materials are applied to faces, you can have as many as you want on one mesh object (but ideally, don't, each one comes at an additional cost)

[stoic summit]

i really only need one for the eye i want to put a panosphere on

[austere bay]

Gi've me a couple of minutes and I'll explain! I'm just uploading something rn

I'm assuming you've got the model in blender?

[stoic summit]

yes, i remembered i wanted to do it like almost the entire way through my model 😭

ive been poking around online and i have a new material created for the right eye, i believe i did it correctly

i just have the base model before i made my changes in unity

but i do have the material made

[austere bay]

my boyfriend is asleep so I have to whisper sorry!!

also sorry the videos a little hard to follow

I've been on blender/unity for like 10+ hours atp my brain is absolutely fried

[somber sequoia]

sounds about right

[stoic summit]

so after this, im looking to put a panosphere with a galaxy texture on the separate eye

[austere bay]

have you made the material? bc you should just be able to drag the new material onto the eye you want it on

after following my video

[stoic summit]

after dragging the new material on nothing changed 🥀

[austere bay]

just go over the video again and make sure you didn't miss anything

you should be able to just drag the material onto the eye and it'll work

like make sure you assign the new material to the eye in blender

[stoic summit]

i see what happened

i selected a bg layer of my eye on accident

one of the eye expressions

[austere bay]

ah okay, well you should be able to just ctrl z to fix that

[stoic summit]

yeah im not getting an extra material in the list on the body

i have the actual material itself

but i dont have the separate eye

[austere bay]

did you reimport

and did you export the fbx properly

I didn't show how to export the fbx

im going to sleep so good luck! the only thing I didn't show was how to export the fbx

[stoic summit]

if you could quickly just explain what to do in text i'll probably figure it out

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> export fbx, set 'apply scalings' to 'FBX All', under Armature uncheck leaf bones, overwrite your existing .fbx file

[austere bay]

I like to select everything before exporting and then I enable "selected thingamajigies" bc then you only export what you've selected

saves you exporting things you haven't added to your model yet or the annoying cameras or lights

[stoic summit]

the texture i made shows up

but i still have the 2 layers here

[trim rover]

tracking countroller not working propperly, the animation plays but doesn't freeze tracking, this animation layer was working fine yesterday and the only thing i changed was add aditional animation layers

what might i have done to breake it?

[ornate stump]

Does the layer you added contains other tracking control?

[trim rover]

yes, but after disabeling all other layers the problerm persists

[ornate stump]

What do you mean disabling?

[trim rover]

well all the new layers at least

[trim rover]

setting all weights to zero

[stoic summit]

i guess i should say im probably trying to make a mask for the eye, so i can have the panosphere in the eye itself

[somber sequoia]

that'll work

assuming your shader of choice can do it

[stoic summit]

using poiyomi

[somber sequoia]

that will

[ornate stump]

Zero weight still cause tracking control to run so it still interfere with your enabled layer.

[trim rover]

like if it's the default state?

[stoic summit]

do you mind moving to dms?

[somber sequoia]

yes

[ornate stump]

No. All the state behaviours are active regardless of layer weight. Weight only apply to how much animation value should that layer blend with all animation.

[trim rover]

then what if i need it on multiple layers and that is the issue how do i prevent them from interfering with each other?

[ornate stump]

It depends on how to do thing.

[trim rover]

?

i need the gesture animations to dissable facial traacking for certian expressions but i also need the facial tracking dissabled for some full body animaations

do i have to make a seprate dedicated layer that only dissables and enables the face animations and just work every condition through there?

because that sounds like a quick way to loos track of what's there and what's not

[somber osprey]

is there a way to control the audio's playback speed on the fly?

[ornate stump]

You could either make single layer that combine all the logic to run tracking control.
Or add additional condition in each transition in each layer to prevent state entering the state when it shouldn't.
Or you drive intermediate parameter and use AAP logic to use as transition condition just for driving tracking control.

[trim rover]

but if i dissable a thransition won't it stay stuck on the previous state?

like stay stuck on or off? and it'd still interfere with other layers?

or does the countroller only activate once when it's entered?

[ornate stump]

Transition isn't "disabled". It just doesn't run. Tracking control just set the tracking state when that enter the state and it doesn't "lock" to prevent other tracking control trying to change it.

[trim rover]

well i mean add an aditional condition to the second countroler

but i get what you mean

[ornate stump]

Correctly said, it doesn't stay "stuck".

[trim rover]

i misopoke

ima try adding an aditional condition because that seems far easier

[heavy marsh]

Does anyone know how to fix a broken hue shift

[somber sequoia]

depends on how it's broken

[heavy marsh]

It won't change colors st all

[somber sequoia]

which shader?

[heavy marsh]

Neither the brightness

[heavy marsh]

I'm not sure I'm still new to unity and blender but I have knowledge

[somber sequoia]

look at the top of the material, it should be listed

[trim rover]

huh, now it's broken in the oposite way

[somber osprey]

is there a way to control the audio's playback speed on the fly?

[trim rover]

yah now it breaks on all the full body animations instead of the expressions

wait, i forgot to add the peramater on the expression layer too duh

yep, that fixed it

[trim rover]

thanks

[void plinth]

Y'all, what's happening?

Screenshot 1 is what I've set my contact receiver to listen for.

Screenshot 2 is what it gets transformed into as soon as I enter play mode (and, it turns out, when I upload to game as well)

(On top of this already being weird: 4 minutes ago, having changed nothing, "FingerIndex" was instead two fields, "FingerIndexL" and "FingerMiddleR")

[ornate stump]

What is the problem with it?

[sand cedar]

i accidentally closed tabs for the assets and the thing on the right how do i reopen it?

someone pls help

[junior void]

Under the window tab at the top you'll find inspector to be an option

[silk cosmos]

hi i dont know if anyone knows how to fix this but my vrchat sdk is not lettim me upload my avitar to brchat its saying im not a high enough rank despite me being a known user

[ornate stump]

Likely temporary server issue. Try again in few minutes.

[silk cosmos]

its been saying it for several days now ....

[ornate stump]

Had you been able to upload any avatar before?

[silk cosmos]

only as a test version

[ornate stump]

That isn't uploading. Is this first time you upload?

[silk cosmos]

yer

[ornate stump]

Have you merge account if you login via steam?

[silk cosmos]

no i havent linked my steam do i need to do that ?

[ornate stump]

If you don't link, those 2 are separated accounts. So known user rank didn't apply to your actual vrchat account.

[sand cedar]

how about the bottom part with all the different assets

[silk cosmos]

i dont play off steam tho i use the actuall app ans signed it with my vrchat login so basically i need to conect my steam to my account for my rank to updat to the sdk?

[ornate stump]

What is your in game name? Just checking if you actually have the right rank.

[ornate stump]

That's actually correct. Then you might have to contact vrchat support #vrchat-support to have them look into the issue where you don't have permission to upload.

[silk cosmos]

ok thank you

[junior void]

Same thing. Just called project iirc

[dark jay]

Can anyone convert a mmd vmd to unity anim here?

[sand cedar]

my thing was stuck on building avatar so i closed the sdk now its all grey

[balmy barn]

https://gitee.com/cmoyuer/vrchat-avatar-toolkit - vmd2anim, shapekeys you need to grab from blender

https://github.com/cnscj/mmd-camera-to-unity-anim - for camera to anim , but its abit wierd sometime

both pretty old now vmd2anim yet to break on me

[hollow mountain]

Thulen do you know much about gestures? You've always been super helpful so sorry if I'm buggin ya. The default gesture layer for the avatar just didn't do anything, and when I removed it to see if it worked it.. 'works', except the left hand does nothing, and whatever gesture is on the right hand gets mirrored to the left.

This is what the gesture thingy looks like

[void plinth]

Oh. I was trying to explain but I guess I didn't do a good job.

I have specified that my contact receiver should listen on hands, feet, head, and fingers tags.

When I enter play mode, the inspector changes the tags for the receiver. Specifically, "Fingers" goes away and becomes replaced by... something else.

Earlier, "Fingers" would disappear in play mode and be replaced with two very specific fingers: Index-Left and Middle-Right. Seemingly really random. I want ALL fingers to be listened for, not just 1 random finger on each hand.

By the time I submitted this last post, though, the tags that were spontaneously replacing the "Fingers" tag changed. Now it's just "Index Fingers" instead. Still wrong: I want ALL fingers.

It's unclear to me why the tags are changing on their own when I enter play mode and when I upload.

[hollow mountain]

VRCfury weirdness? Type scripts in the hiearchy search and poke around

[void plinth]

Oh, hm. Could be. I usually trust VRCFury to be shockingly reliable, but maybe I'll give Senky a nudge and see if something has snuck under the radar...

[hollow mountain]

I'll also often see a lot of strange setups prebuilt into avatars so.

You good with expressions or gestures whatever? I'm confused and getting grumpy ;w;

I just wanna fix this then get on and drunkenly yell at british people

[void plinth]

It was in fact VRCFury. Apparently if you reclaim some of your finger senders using the Global Collider system, VRCFury automatically tries to exclude the reclaimed colliders from your receivers. Theoretically, to protect you from stupiding yourself. Buuuut in my case, very inconvenient.

I can just disable self-interact and it should stop doing it, but that's a bit of a bummer too. I'd still like to trigger my own receivers all the same.

[hollow mountain]

Hey my random guessing worked again!

Now I just gotta figure out why the expressions are mirrored 😭

[void plinth]

ohno

best of luck. I'd take a peek but I am passing out in real time. It's bedso for me.

🍞 💤

[hollow mountain]

Ah oki, have a good napp

[ornate stump]

You have to put layer mask for respective hands.

[hollow mountain]

Can you show me what you mean :<