avatar-help

[clever cloak]

that would be an issue

no armature

[ornate stump]

What "that" you're asking?

[clever cloak]

?

what

[ornate stump]

That person didn't answer you.

[clever cloak]

yea i have a seperate issue on my own avatar, this was not an answer

[ornate stump]

Find the Arktoon shader file folders and delete from your project.

[clever cloak]

ok

[ornate stump]

Somewhere in your project.

You have to try harder.

Did you even go into each folder?

Did you even scroll to see other file and folder?

It clear isn't a part of CLICK ON ME folder.

Of course.

[clever cloak]

gonna sleep for the night (for real this time) thanks for your help today

cant wait to finally have it up and running hopefully tomorrow

[ornate stump]

I did say so.

[cobalt cloak]

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

[ornate stump]

Did you edit and export model from blender?

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[ornate stump]

Make sure to set export settings Apply Scalings to FBX All.

[cobalt cloak]

So, I already uploaded the avatar, but then my view position was wrong, so I moved it, and now it's like this.

[cobalt cloak]

Should I try exporting it again?

[ornate stump]

Of course you have to export it again.

[cobalt cloak]

So, would I be exporting it correctly now?

[ornate stump]

The option I mentioned is the only one matters to your issue.

[cobalt cloak]

and then simply re-upload

thx for the help

[thorn furnace]

hi there, i have a problem with the camera, no matter where i put it, its always to the right of my characters head, its really annoying

[junior void]

"This"?

[thorn furnace]

Really annoying

[gaunt knoll]

What is this we can't read minds here

[gaunt knoll]

Yo

[gaunt knoll]

You talking about the view point or the unity camera

[thorn furnace]

View point

[gaunt knoll]

Can you show the whole unity screen please @thorn furnace

[formal imp]

can anyone help me figure out why the ear does this in play mode/in game? theres no gravity on the phys bone

-# out of playmode vs in playmode

-# ok the physbone isn't the issue, just removed it and it's still doing this

[gaunt knoll]

HUH what unity is this

[somber sequoia]

not the right one

[gaunt knoll]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

You must use Unity 2022.3.22f1

[thorn furnace]

It’s unity 2022.2.20f

[somber sequoia]

Yes, we can see that.

[gaunt knoll]

2022.2.20f1 isnt supported

it may work but not as intended

[thorn furnace]

Oh

[gaunt knoll]

did it work?

[desert hull]

Can someone help me with setting up vrcbreeze for avatars i am so lost

[gaunt knoll]

https://github.com/Kadeko/VRCBreeze/blob/main/Documentation/INSTRUCTIONS.md

[desert hull]

followed it word-to-word, and it's not doing it

and i do not have any other components that could be interfering

[somber sequoia]

Look under "review any alerts" for blocking errors.

[analog fog]

It says the avatar needs a animator component

[somber sequoia]

it's true. Did you do the humanoid rig setup?

[somber sequoia]

"yes" would tell me more than that image

[analog fog]

Mb

Also I am relatively still new to unity and I don’t quite know how to add one

[somber sequoia]

Looks like you've started from the creator's sample scene? If so this should already have been done

[analog fog]

Nope

[somber sequoia]

weird. Ok then, if you follow most of the basic avatar setup tutorials, like this one, there's a section on doing the rig setup - you'll need to do that if you haven't. Usually that adds the animator component when successful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

(updated the link, sorry, grabbed the wrong one)

[thorn furnace]

no

[junior void]

How come i can upload an avatar using android build but on ios its telling me my avatar is 15 mbs and therefore failed to build? o.O

[thorn furnace]

i built the avatar again on 2022.3.22

and it still had the issue

[unique harbor]

I need help.

It’s telling me I can’t build/publish the avi because it’s got pc stuff apparently even tho i specifically downloaded the “fixed” quest version and I can’t count the amount of projects I’ve made during the night deleting what I thought was wrong only to start the process all over again and im lowk starting to tweak lololo

[somber sequoia]

at least you know it isn't the unity version now

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to remove or convert any "pc stuff" - #avatar-quest is a good place for clues about this

[thorn furnace]

yeah because it wasnt a unity version issue from the start 😭

[somber sequoia]

no that was still an issue, just not all the issues

you still can't use that unity even if it seems to work

[unique harbor]

I have removed all pc stuff and I continue to get the same issue

[somber sequoia]

feel free to show the issue

[thorn furnace]

well the viewpoint is still offset even though its not in the editor

[unique harbor]

My question is why would there be pc stuff on a quest version of it to begin with. That makes everything more complicated. As for the issue, its telling me that gogo loco is the problem, so I removed it and retried, but then it said that there’s still pc stuff but I couldn’t find any more

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to ask the creator for that

[junior void]

i think theres a chance youre misunderstanding the error given

[somber sequoia]

and gogo loco should work on quest - again, feel free to post actual error messages

we're guessing otherwise

[junior void]

i just uploaded an avatar with gogo on it literally 5 minutes ago for both pc and quest

[unique harbor]

There’s a chance that I might be. #LearningDisability lol. In all seriousness, this is the first time I’m experiencing this problem. I’ve only done this two other times. Plus I don’t think contacting the creator is an option and if it is, I don’t know how long that’ll be.

I can provide photos, but I’m not sure how helpful they’ll actually be

[somber sequoia]

again, post error messages. Otherwise we have no idea what to suggest you do.

[unique harbor]

okay
The gogo loco in the first photo was removed, but this is all I’ve got to show for it.

[somber sequoia]

first one: you have something that say "missing script" there - this means some component on your avatar requires a package you didn't install.

also if this is a quest avatar, this is very very bad.

[unique harbor]

Bad?

[somber sequoia]

200k polys is terrible for quest

[unique harbor]

I installed everything that was available

[somber sequoia]

and yet, you're missing something

[unique harbor]

How’s that possible?

[somber sequoia]

maybe it's VRC Fury?

[gaunt knoll]

send a screenshot of CC also use the snip tool

[unique harbor]

I was told not to use that

[somber sequoia]

well then you can't use the VRCFury version of gogo loco

which you seem to have used

[unique harbor]

I deleted it?

[gaunt knoll]

still

just add fury

it compresses the avi down for easy upload

[somber sequoia]

it does?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah it auto adds compressors now for the avi

[somber sequoia]

huh.

[gaunt knoll]

since last update

[unique harbor]

I’ll give it a try, thx

[lilac musk]

Fury only adds the parameter compressor if the parameters are too high (And if you have something on the avatar that uses fury).

[gaunt knoll]

silver you might know how do i get something in the tools

[somber sequoia]

tools?

[gaunt knoll]

in the tools

[somber sequoia]

what tools?

[gaunt knoll]

in unity

[somber sequoia]

again, what tools?

[gaunt knoll]

the tools in unity at the top

[somber sequoia]

you mean the tools menu?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

[MenuItem("Tools/MyCoolTool")]
on your ShowWindow() call in your EditorWindow class

[gaunt knoll]

ive done that its not poping up

[somber sequoia]

or I guess it could be on some other function too

yeah anything that shows a window (looking at my own code I wrote over a year ago)

this might be better in #development-advanced though 🙂

[lilac musk]

Best to ask in the proper channel. Also, I'm kinda shit at code.

[gaunt knoll]

true

[balmy barn]

values on x , means avatar isnt centered should be 0 - need to fix origin in blender

viewpoint gonna be derpy ingame

[junior void]

im late to the party, i assume yall saw that gogo was not on the avatar itself

[gaunt knoll]

yea

[mystic basin]

hiiii, i was wondering if anyone knew how to fix these errors? i'm using the creator companion on 2022.3.22f1 and i'm getting these three errors on projects that are using the 3.10.1 SDK packages. old projects give me the option to use safe mode while brand new projects crash immediately, and i have no clue on what to do </3
updating gesture manager didnt work, and neither did removing ir or re-adding it. this also didnt happen until i updated the avatar SDK to 3.10.1

[stable citrus]

remove or update Gesture Manager inside your VCC

[mystic basin]

it immediately crashed after both updating and removing it

[timber wharf]

@hearty gazelle #avatar-help message

[uneven whale]

Could you please tell me what texture parameters should I set so that the avatar textures are smaller in size but don't deteriorate in quality too much?

[timber wharf]

@hearty gazelle you need a nonhumanoid bone to be a root of hair etc. and ofc you need bones to be physbones themselves

@uneven whale its subjective. for pc and RGB keep normal quality (dxt) or for subtle gradients high quality (BC7) for twice the size. for RGBA always select BC7. After that only reducing the texture sizes. On quest stick to ASTC and increase grid size (like, 6x6) for less weight with loss of quality.

@uneven whale On top of that, crunching textures wont save any vram and performance, only lower download size and quality, so when possible avoid doing it at least for pc.

@hearty gazelle win+shift+s

not photos pls

[uneven whale]

The larger the mesh size, the less weight?

[timber wharf]

@uneven whale grid

ie 6x6 is smaller and worse than 4x4 (default i believe)

[uneven whale]

Thanks!

[timber wharf]

i dont see what you have🤷‍♂️

[sturdy totem]

hello could someone help me fix this pls i want to keep the body but not the head :3

[timber wharf]

@sturdy totem blender

cant just remove part of the mesh in unity

[sturdy totem]

Ok ty looks like ill need to get that

[gaunt knoll]

You can but your can't add a another head to it

[timber wharf]

@gaunt knoll entertain me

[gaunt knoll]

yes master

give bobby one second

[timber wharf]

wait i think amuse is the right word sorry

[gaunt knoll]

here you are master

[timber wharf]

im on phone, is it just sets stuff to alpha or what

[gaunt knoll]

No because it gets rid of the triangles

[timber wharf]

now thats interesting, so it goes beyond discarding via shader? i will check it and sorry for doubting

[scarlet fractal]

So im making a Star Wars TK for my group i own and everything in Unity is perfect from armature, models, textures and still shows in VRC like this

[gaunt knoll]

I have more if you want

[somber sequoia]

do you make those available as other than unitypackage?

[gaunt knoll]

Like adding them to CC

[drowsy crane]

this is the "something" that popped up, it happened again

[ornate stump]

What does it do if you choose Resolve?

[drowsy crane]

lets find out

[gaunt knoll]

Is that CC

[drowsy crane]

it adds in packages, lemme open it

[drowsy crane]

yup

now its showing me this before I open it

[gaunt knoll]

Huh weird I've never seen that before

Ignore

[drowsy crane]

unity is such a pain

[ornate stump]

Either you choose Safe Mode or Ignore, you have to see error in the console.

[ornate stump]

That's when you don't know how to work with it.

[drowsy crane]

the console errors look like enchantment table ramblings in my eyes

[somber sequoia]

I've seen that a LOT - often you can just ignore, let it finish, then restart Unity and it's gone

[ornate stump]

That aren't going to help explaining thing.

[drowsy crane]

?

[ornate stump]

If you want people to help you take a look at, you have to give detail of the errors.

[drowsy crane]

.

where the hell did all of this come from?

[somber sequoia]

uninstall or upgrade gesture manager

I'd probably just uninstall it and restart Unity, see if that fixes things.

[drowsy crane]

the sripts look like this too

[somber sequoia]

yes - because you have compile errors.

none of this will work if you have errors in the console which will not clear

[drowsy crane]

ahhh

ok I got rid of gesture manager, im opening up unity now

[ornate stump]

The package seems to nested into another which seems really wrong.

[drowsy crane]

its fixed

[drowsy crane]

nested into another one?

[somber sequoia]

I have to use a one-version-back gesture manager, haven't really looked into it too closely though. That package is always a pain for me.

[ornate stump]

If you can read the package name, it's GestureManager package that somehow got into EasyQuestSwitch package.

[drowsy crane]

odd

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[drowsy crane]

welp that's fixed now, i'm going to upload the avatar, I'll be back if the spell system breaks again

[dense meadow]

quick question i cant seem to get a clear answer for lmao. is there a way to update just the little avatar thumbnail without needing to go through unity?

[somber sequoia]

not as far as I can tell

with VRC+ you can have one that isn't per-avatar though

Where is the avatar origin?

it should be at the world origin with the avatar standing on that point, and all transforms applied. In blender.

[gaunt knoll]

if your in vr make sure your boundary is setup correctly

[somber sequoia]

... in blender?

[gaunt knoll]

in the setting of your headset...

click on the head and you can see the mats it uses

[somber sequoia]

can't tell anything from that pic really

you'll have to figure out what material is there and why it isn't the right color

oh I get it, there's still nothing we can tell you from here other than "yep, that looks black"

again, you'd have to look at material settings, and possibly the UV map to see what part of the texture you are using applies to that area.

it's what I would use

[spring jolt]

Hello everyone. Anybody did avatars where spheric eyes aren't fit to head?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean by that

[spring jolt]

My eyes should be squished a little, but I don't know what better to do in such situations.
If I made a model only for blender I would use Lattice. Not sure about Unity and VRChat

[gaunt knoll]

Can you send a screenshot of CC all of the packages have have added

no in CC

are you using XWear Packager and dressingTools

aaa take them off and also esay quest switch

does it say anything above the upload in the stats

[somber sequoia]

is the model at 0,0,0? and its origin is there also?

[clever cloak]

im trying to weight paint the pants using robust weight transfer, but im not sure how it works fully and can't seem to find a guide that helps. anyone here got experience with it?

the pants have no armature or weight currently. just a plain fbx file

so im not sure where to go from here

[somber sequoia]

you need blender (or similar) to check the avatar's origin, but 0,0,0 is the world origin in Unity, look at the transform for your avatar root, make sure that's where it is

[modern gyro]

chat please help, what does this even mean im so confused

[grand scaffold]

typically means there's a component reference missing from a script

[modern gyro]

how would i go about finding the fix for it?

[round comet]

Check your avatar to make sure nothing is missing. Be it scripts or some sort of plugin

If it says something is missing in the console it’ll usually tell you what you need

[somber sequoia]

is this the only error?

[modern gyro]

yes, ive tried multiple different avatars, could it be something missing in unity itself? maybe i have to reinstall it etc

[somber sequoia]

literally no way to know from only that message, maybe there's detail in the error details.

usually it's not the only error in an avatar project.

[modern gyro]

ill open it back up and send a ss of the whole thing

[gaunt knoll]

send the errors in unity and all of your packages

[cobalt cloak]

How do I prevent my tail from going through my body?

[gaunt knoll]

colliders

really easy

[cobalt cloak]

i have a collider an my hip but he still go through

[somber sequoia]

angle limiters, much better than colliders. I have a curve too - narrower angle at the base of the tail

[gaunt knoll]

yeah for tails defo use angle limits i take back what i said

[cobalt cloak]

okay good idee ill try

[gaunt knoll]

you can have both i guess

[cobalt cloak]

holy shit

[marsh geyser]

I'm trying to attach shoes that is part of a separate prefab but the completely unpacked shoes does not have leg armature and doesn't move with changing of transforms, please help!

[clever cloak]

im having the same issue kinda, pants im using have no armature and doesn't move

[gaunt knoll]

do you have any key shapes/ blendshapes

[marsh geyser]

blendshapes that would manipulate the shoes, not that I'm aware of. not sure what key shapes are

[gaunt knoll]

flat foot

keyshapes are the same

[gaunt knoll]

if not then your going to have to fit them using blender

[marsh geyser]

oh wait yes it does

[clever cloak]

when i try to transfer weights using the robust weight transfer, this is the result and it doesn't seem to move with the armature at all when in pose mode. not sure what to do about this to make the pants move with my legs

[marsh geyser]

thank you, it is resolved! 🙂

[somber sequoia]

does your mesh object have an armature modifier, with the correct armature in it?

[clever cloak]

the mesh object being the avatar or the pants

[somber sequoia]

all must

[clever cloak]

how do i tell if it does

and make one if it doesn't

oh i see the body does have an armature thing like you said

but the pants do not

[somber sequoia]

then the pants will not move with the armature

[clever cloak]

ok i made an armature deform for the pants

does this look right

it looks the same as the body mesh, and that moves with the armature

[somber sequoia]

yep, looks fine

[finite aurora]

perhaps a common question, but is this behaviour of skirts/dresses fixable? it always look awful to have broken sitting pose 🙁

[somber sequoia]

that's better than most

[clever cloak]

ok still does not move with the armature. odd

[gaunt knoll]

what are you using

[clever cloak]

robust weight transfer

blender addon that transfers the weights from one thing to another i think

[somber sequoia]

Check weight paint, of course.

[clever cloak]

how do i check that? very new to blender

[somber sequoia]

watch a tutorial on weight painting. You'll need to do it - tools like robust weight transfer will get you close, but you'll probably need to do some manual touch-up.

[clever cloak]

ok

[somber sequoia]

no, this is not easy 🙂

[clever cloak]

yeah, tbh i might just give up on this pair of pants and buy one that works out of the box

i don't really have it in me to learn all this for them rn, ill come back to it later

[somber sequoia]

it's worth it. Means you can make anything work 🙂

[clever cloak]

yeah, i do want to learn eventually

just not now

ok yea looked at a few tutorials and i don't got that in me to learn rn lol

[gaunt knoll]

pretty sure the donuts tutorials teach you how to do it

[somber sequoia]

not sure I'd go to that one for it, but I don't have a link to a good one handy either

[clever cloak]

i found a quick tutorial that gets it to move with the armature now

so ill see how that looks in game

i have my leg blendshapes on low so clipping wont be an issue, i just want it to look good for moving around

ok no dice still doesn't move in unity at all

weird

i think i set it up right

looks the same as my other clothes that work

wait i was using the old pants lmao

that would do it

[gaunt knoll]

if it was fury i could tell you but i have no idea about modular avatar

[clever cloak]

i have vrcfury as well ill try that after

well thats new

im using avatar 3.0 emulator to test it

which worked fine 5 seconds ago

and works fine if i disable the pants

hm

anything about this skinned mesh renderer look off?

[somber sequoia]

IMO if you have this in Blender I'm not sure why you're doing the complicated route of tools like fury and modular to "connect" it

[clever cloak]

i thought i did it in blender

it worked in blender i think, it moved with the armature

but now it doesn't in unity

also unity i am somewhat familiar with, blender i have zero idea what i am doing

[somber sequoia]

perhaps I misunderstood what you're using those for then

[clever cloak]

i just want to wear pants

and in blender i thought i set it up so that thye move with the legs

but bring the new pants into unity and they don't

[somber sequoia]

how many armatures do you have in blender?

[clever cloak]

im not sure how to check

[gaunt knoll]

6 7

[clever cloak]

this is what the blender looks like

i put the avatar in there so i could use its skeleton

and put the pants in there so i could weight paint them to it

the pants are called sm belt on the heiarchy. i joined the pants and belt as one

since i don't need them individually

[somber sequoia]

see the object named Armature - the little orange man icon indicates it's an armature object. You have one.
So how are you exporting the model and pants?

[clever cloak]

i export as fbx and only export selected, then only select the pants

[somber sequoia]

oh so you are purposely making this a separate object you have to "connect" in Unity, I see.

[clever cloak]

i essentially just want the pants

the avatar and everything else is already done and set up in unity

i want to be able to have the pants as a seperate object that i can toggle

im using a kisekae avatar so i need to add my own clothes onto it

the hoodie and shoes just work from booth where i got them

but these pants are just a plain model file. so i need to set it up to work for a vrchat avatar, which i have never done before and am very confused by

im using modular avatar for menu installs, shape changes, and object toggles

and some of the other outfits use it to attatch onto my avatar, so i just figured id do that for this as well

if that makes sense

it moves in blender with the bones from the legs

so not sure why it does not in unity

now i believe what i have done here is merge the armature of the pants to the body, but i need to make the pants have their own armature

however, i have no idea how to do that

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't, just use one armature. If you must export the pants as their own separate file, select the armature and pants mesh and export just the selected objects.

Fury will merge them at build time, that's the point of Armature Link

[clever cloak]

would that not clash with the avatar armature back in unity?

ill give it a try

ok odd, they don't show up in the test. but they do show up on the avatar

[somber sequoia]

again, that's the point of Armature Link

[somber sequoia]

simply dropping the object onto the avatar will not connect armatures

again, that's the point of Armature Link

[clever cloak]

yeah i thought thats what it was

i tried it earlier with that and same thing, ill try again

[somber sequoia]

https://vrcfury.com/components/armature-link

[clever cloak]

i think that worked

idk if it s bad to mix and match vrcfury and modular avatar

but ill find out later i guess

[somber sequoia]

I assume modular has a thing for this, but I'm not sure, I don't do this method at all, with either too.

[clever cloak]

i think their version is this

[left wharf]

modular avatar can do it too
and Goose right, that's the one

[somber sequoia]

makes sense

[clever cloak]

ill look at the documentation for this one, i like modular avatar im more used to it

[cobalt cloak]

I tried to make a boop animation, but absolutely nothing happens when I test it.
(what do you need to help me)

[clever cloak]

for blendshape hidings is it better to delete them or shrink them, i alwaus forget

back to this now, zamn

i fixed the ndmf thing but still getting the unity error

peculiar

launches fine without the avatar 3.0 emulator, so guess ill test it in game

[somber sequoia]

how are you testing?

[cobalt cloak]

with a sender

[somber sequoia]

Yes but how are you testing it?

(probably show the receiver too)

[cobalt cloak]

in play mode and then I pull the ball over the point where the boop is( where the receiver is.)

[somber sequoia]

Ok show the receiver

[somber sequoia]

Ok cool. Looks good to me. Watch the parameter in the animator to see if it's activated when you poke it

[cobalt cloak]

here

[spark walrus]

Has anyone here worked with Miz's models before? and if so, how the hell to I make the other fingers move?? I have no clue why they aren't working and its driving me crazy

The pinky works fine BTW

[somber sequoia]

I don't see 'boop' in the parameters list there, but that's what I meant to watch, not the animation layer. Verify the contact works first.

[cobalt cloak]

so in the parameters i have boop and wen it is on 1 nothing happen, on 0 should happen noting if I'm not mistaken.

[somber sequoia]

should happen, or actually does happen? 🙂

[cobalt cloak]

how do you mean

so i have conditions boop = greater 0.1 boop activate if Boop = less 0.1 boop deactivatd

[somber sequoia]

there's no need to use a float parameter if you have it set to constant, it's either on or off, so you can use a bool here.

that simplifies things

[cobalt cloak]

okay

ill set it to a bool

but still nothing is happening

[somber sequoia]

select an object and look in the item box of the right-side popup (toggle with 'n') to see where it is. The armature should be at the origin.

[somber sequoia]

are you trying to debug the contact or your animation layer though?

[pallid merlin]

uhm????? wth ive uploaded avatars many times before

[somber sequoia]

wrong account maybe?

[pallid merlin]

never game me an option to log in

wont let me click anything

[cobalt cloak]

I don't know why it's not working. so idk

[somber sequoia]

that wasn't to you

[cobalt cloak]

oh

[pallid merlin]

yeah it hasnt given me the option to sign into my account

[clever cloak]

got it working, lfg

[somber sequoia]

weird - errors in the console maybe? restart unity?

[clever cloak]

swapped out the shader for the pants also to a better looking one

[pallid merlin]

ill give it a go

ill try this too

[wooden wing]

Hi, i have a quick question. Im trying to upload my first avatar but im running into a small issue. When i thy to upload it to vrchat (after giving it a name and all the stuff), then the first section gets greyed out. i have also tested it with some other avatars. (i havent made the avatars myself. They are downloaded and should work i think) WHen im testing them in vrchat, then they work. can somebody pls help me? In the picture you can see, how it looks, when i try to upload it.

[pallid merlin]

there we go

[somber sequoia]

open "review any alerts" and review the 37 alerts

[spark walrus]

please help. I have no clue what I'm doing

[wooden wing]

oh so there arent allowed to be any alerts? i thought, they are just there to tell me, that the character need much performance

[somber sequoia]

that's not what I said

some of them may be blocking the build though

All I said was to review them.

[cobalt cloak]

do you have a idee waht i can do?

[somber sequoia]

I don't recall if you said you confirmed the variable is actually changing?

[cobalt cloak]

oh i did its now on bool

sry

[somber sequoia]

yeah I saw you said you changed the type but not if it was working

[cobalt cloak]

no its not

[somber sequoia]

ok then possibly something odd about how you're testing.

I use Avatar 3.0 Emulator for this, can't help you with Gesture manager

[cobalt cloak]

okay i switch to it wait

[radiant night]

These are my audio source settings but I keep getting complaints that people can hear audio from really far away, is there some option to make it global that I have on somewhere else?

[wooden wing]

so the only alerts i can see are just like "to much memory usage" and stuff for better performance. and a problem, that a bone isnt the first child of an other bone which could make problems with rotations. (sorry if my questions are a bit dumb, but its my first time using unity)

[cobalt cloak]

Okay, the bullet is in the receiver, but the layer is stuck on empty. It won't switch to boop activated.

wait i found soming ill test

[somber sequoia]

Set that to 3D and the curves and such will apply

[cobalt cloak]

okay waht What does that mean?
Controller 'Smink_FX': Transition '' in state 'Empty' uses parameter 'Boop' which is not compatible with condition type.

[radiant night]

Thank you

[somber sequoia]

go look at that condition - probably when you changed the data type it's still using a greater-than or less-than comparison

[cobalt cloak]

no only ture and fales

[somber sequoia]

'twas a guess

[cobalt cloak]

Other ideas, if not, that's fine too.

[wooden wing]

i have just tested it in a new project (with the nardo 3.0 base template) and i still have the same problem. So ig im just doing something wrong

[somber sequoia]

in blender in layout mode, hit 'n' and the right-side popup will toggle, right? Item tab, Transform box.

[clever cloak]

Hey again, im trying to set up my hair material swap to be done via a radial wheel in the menu. is that possible? there are 7 total including off (the default hair)

currently im using modular avatar to set up the material swap upon object load, and set that up as a toggle in the menu

but if theres a way to do it with the radial menu that would be nice

[daring aspen]

Trying to upload my avatar got this error, I already forgot how I solved this myself in the past

[somber sequoia]

depends on what you have for shader settings, rim light maybe?

Each object has an origin, it's represented by a teeny tiny orange dot visible when you select the object, and its position is the object's position, which is what you see in that box.
But in this case you're interested in the armature, it should be at 0,0,0, facing forward with +Z up and +Y going into the screen. And in that same Transform box, scaling should be 1,1,1 and rotation should be 0,0,0

[somber sequoia]

is the avatar not standing on the ground?

Yes, I got that, it's why you were checking these things in Blender

[digital cairn]

I didnt really get an answer on this last time so I'm replying to it. Anyone able to help?

[somber sequoia]

I figured the answer was to rework the animation

[tawdry swallow]

hi what does this mean?!?!?!?!?!?!?????????? ok??

im just tryna upload a commission ,,,,,,,

[somber sequoia]

Check the console for more details?

[tawdry swallow]

all it says is tyhis

[gaunt knoll]

i will see if it works. if i put it on an avi

[somber sequoia]

there are no errors other than those two?

[tawdry swallow]

nope

[somber sequoia]

no idea then

[tawdry swallow]

i changed the image i used and,,, it hasnt given me the error so far.

[gaunt knoll]

can you show the whole unity screen? please

[digital cairn]

I didnt make the animation tho. I thought I'd need to mess with some settings or something.

[tawdry swallow]

waitnevermind i fixed it

it didnt work because i used a drawn over version of a stock image as the image for it.... thats so weird

[somber sequoia]

not sure what settings. have you tried it on other avatars?

[digital cairn]

I can try

[somber sequoia]

'cause how do you know that isn't just what it looks like?

[digital cairn]

Because the youtube video clearly shows that it has more fluid movement to it

[somber sequoia]

and that's exactly the thing you have?

[digital cairn]

Yes, the video description contained the link to download the motion

[somber sequoia]

got it. I'd try on another avatar then.

[gaunt knoll]

i dont think you can auto convert it

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't know what format this is or how it gets turned into something we can use.
I've done a bunch of the mixamo animations, but those come as .blend or .fbx (I forget which) so it was pretty easy

[late heath]

my avatar has a summon that gets constraint to the world by position and rotation but it also seems to account for the bounding box and will deload for anybody else who isnt looking directly at the other player as well, does anybody know a fix?

[somber sequoia]

by "a summon" do you mean that small character, like a follower?

[late heath]

yes, it is "jrroot" in the hierarchy and there is a toggle that will make it visible and constrain it to the world instead of the primary root bone

[digital cairn]

The animation? It came as a vmd file, which is what the software MikuMikuDance uses for its animations. I used something called Vrchat Avatar Toolkit to make it into an anim file that can be used in unity

[somber sequoia]

so in the youtube video, were they showing this in vrchat?

[snow wasp]

How do I get a stranger things avatar

[digital cairn]

No it was likely in MMD, but people can and have used MMD animations in vrchat in one way or another, like with the MMD Dance worlds for example, which let you choose from a list of songs to make your avatar dance to. All of those worlds use animations from MMD

[somber sequoia]

maybe #1138520828556890214 , or buy or make one

[somber sequoia]

ahh I see. So yeah, maybe some issues with translation, assuming it acts the same on all avatars.

[late heath]

i think i found the issue, for optimization i pack everything into 1 mesh renderer so i think i either have to find a way to give the bone its own bounding box (if its even possible) or separate it into 2 meshes

[digital cairn]

Maybe

[somber sequoia]

ohh that'd probably do it, you'd want that to be a separate mesh object

[gaunt knoll]

apple here i did the convert manually

[digital cairn]

Aight ill try em out

[somber sequoia]

if you have fbx, does it play reasonably in blender?

[tough marsh]

not sure how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

the first isn't a big deal.

the second tells you where to look, it might be a big deal

for the first you may want to either import blendshape normals, or use legacy blendshape mode, depends on your model

[gaunt knoll]

yes? maybe

[somber sequoia]

that sounds uncertain 🙂

[tough marsh]

yea so this is what happens whenever i use gesture mgr

[digital cairn]

I'm not using blender actually. This is all on unity :0

[gaunt knoll]

did it work?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I figured that, but it's a thing that I would check, were I working on this.

[foggy wadi]

cough added clothes or whatnot, now they're mogging me doing the T pose. What do i do now ?

[tough marsh]

did u connect them to the armature?

[foggy wadi]

They all went to Hips automatically i think.

[tough marsh]

p.s. this is what the errors are reading as, im a little slow so what do i do now?

[digital cairn]

Nope, it shows up like this when I drag it in (last one)

[tough marsh]

yeah so the names of bones and the bones the clothes are actually painted to matter a LOT, you're gonna wanna go into blender for this lolz

[somber sequoia]

set your rig to generic, apply, then redo the rigging setup - it seems you changed something drastically in the last export from Blender.

or if you didn't set "apply scalings" the same as the previous export used, perhaps that's the issue

try setting it to "FBX All" and re-export, see if that fixes it

[foggy wadi]

Abort project !

I aint finna do allat

[tough marsh]

i have a plugin that autoassigns weights from the base body if you want it? saved me hours of work lol

[somber sequoia]

Robust Weight Transfer, one assumes?

its pretty good

[tough marsh]

yep!

[tough marsh]

also this worked! thank you!

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

basically always use the same settings

whatever they are 🙂

[tough marsh]

noted!

[clever cloak]

gonna ask this again, looked online and saw some stuff with animators but just wanna see if there is an easier way to set it up for a radial menu material swap

[gaunt knoll]

fury toggle mat swap

[somber sequoia]

100% possible, not sure what you're looking for to be "easier" - fury? modular?

[clever cloak]

just whatever the best method is for setting it up where as i turn the radial menu, it changes between materials

be it fury or modular or something else

[somber sequoia]

you'll get lots of opinions as to what "best" means here.

I personally hate doing those with a radial option, too easy to miss things. I just do them in a submenu.

[clever cloak]

thats how i have it rn

[foggy wadi]

Do i ?

[clever cloak]

but if i could a radial menu is just a lot more clean

[somber sequoia]

radial outputs a float value, use it in your animation logic. that's it.

[clever cloak]

ok so i do need to do animation stuff, i wasn't sure

ill go watch some tutorials on that, i have no idea

[somber sequoia]

unless you use the things we mentioned, sure

[gaunt knoll]

using fury looks like this

[clever cloak]

for the redial menu i don't see an option in vrc fury or modular

like i have the material swap yeah

that i set up

but assigning it to the radial menu is the part im stuck at

im gonna try something

ma might be able to help actually

[gaunt knoll]

the menu path is where you put in where you want it to go

[clever cloak]

i see an option that might work

[gaunt knoll]

it goes it clothes/matswap

or

settings/clothes/matswap

[clever cloak]

i thgink ma will let me set it up with this

*think

[left wharf]

i think you might need to create an animator manually to do that

[gaunt knoll]

apple

@digital cairn

i think ive fixed it

[clever cloak]

okay so that did not work as planned LOL

[gaunt knoll]

xD

[left wharf]

lol

[clever cloak]

i basically have each hair colour as an empty object that as soon as it gets enabled it swaps the material

so if i can set it so the radial menu toggles them that will work

i gotta find a way to set this as the default state as well. this will be interesting

been having to learn a lot of new stuff for this avatar, itll be worth it tho as ive been putting this off since august

okay to get the effect i need i believe i do have to animate

i don't see any vrcfury or modular avatar options for setting these up

i thought i did but i may be misunderstanding

this looks like it could be used to do that

but im not sure how to set it so they all apply to the same radial menu

instead of all seperate ones

i gotta make a parameter or something for that

[somber sequoia]

yeah, you want one parameter

[frigid void]

does anyone know an easy way to add a hair root bone to a model in blender? All the hair bones are parented to the head right now.

[digital cairn]

I have an avatar in unity that uses Poiyomi Toon. The shaders on there showed up just fine. I imported a particle system that also uses poiyomi toon but it's constantly showing up untextured pink no matter what I do

[gaunt knoll]

aaaa hey kazin

[somber sequoia]

poi on a particle system is weird, not sure I'd do that

but you can go look at that material

[somber sequoia]

fun - I'm guessing it's constantly increasing too

[gaunt knoll]

i was think that too but its not

[digital cairn]

I figured it out. Turns out the particle system itself was missing the material in one of its sections

[somber sequoia]

yep, that'll do it

[clever cloak]

do i need to do anything special with it or do i just need to make a blank one

[somber sequoia]

what?

you use it in the animator

[daring lark]

Heyy so 3things. After I add Gogo loco is there a way to still add face emotes?and the how do I keep unity for making my textures crappier when putting in? And how do I add more clothes(using vroid models)

[cobalt cloak]

ello, I've been trying a few things and the boop still isn't working. Any ideas?

[lilac musk]

1. Adding gogo loco shouldn't stop from adding face emotes to an avatar. As long as there are blendshapes to animate that is.

2. If your talking about how they compress, you should be able to click the texture asset and in the inspector, change it's import settings. However the higher resolution, the more texture memory it uses and is usually why it downgrades them slightly to begin with.

3. Adding clothes outside of the vroid system would require blender (or other 3d modeling software) work. Minimally shaping a premade outfit onto your avatar and applying some weight painting. Can be done pretty easily with weight transfer methods.

[daring lark]

But where do I put the controller for the face emotes after adding the gogo controllers

Any video recommendations for weight painting clothes?

[lilac musk]

From that error you had, it seems like the issue is the parameters. Could simply delete them and add them back for a try

[somber sequoia]

in that case you could make a new controller and combine things into it. or make a copy of the gogo loco one and edit it. or use VRCFury to get gogo loco instead of the manual setup.

[cobalt cloak]

what do you mean the parameters in the animator tap?

[lilac musk]

It completely depends on your project and setup. It sounds like you already have a controller for the face emotes, so simply add the two together with something like Avatar Manager 3.0.

For weight painting, look up how to transfer weight via data transfer in blender.

[daring lark]

What are good settings? I tried to sell avatar but ppl say the textures aren’t good quality but I’m realizing my quality goes to shit when moving from blender to unity

[daring lark]

Ok bet I gotta install it on this project I left it out 😅

[lilac musk]

The animation controller error you got was saying it had a data type mismatch. So either something was setup wrong or bugged out. So removing those parameters in that controller and adding them back in as it expects, could fix it.

[lilac musk]

Keeping the native resolution should be enough. If not then maybe I'm not understanding what it is that's wrong.

[cobalt cloak]

thx man love you

[lilac musk]

No problem

[clever cloak]

damn, i was hoping there was a workaround that didn't use the animator lol

time for some tutorials

[light pond]

do yall know the base avi that falling rain uses?

[clever cloak]

okay i dont get how the animator works at all

how tf did this happen

and how do i revert it, control z isn't working

now its like this

i should have not touched the animator lol. this makes no sense

it keeps getting worse when i try to undo it

none of the clips i made even touch the pants at all how tf did this happen

yea im just gonna close without saving and give up on the radial menu alltogether. I can't do it

[mystic basin]

i wanna circle back to this because removing the gesture manager didnt work and neither did updating ut

so i dont know what to do </3

[clever cloak]

ok rendition 1 before i do any optimizing at all, honestly far from the worst ive seen but i can def do way better

this is still just the test build version anyway

gotta optimize and then make the quest version to further optimize

[clever cloak]

weird eyes

anyone know how to fix this

also the shading between my head and neck looks a bit weird and different. it looks worse on my monitor than in the screenshot

Monitor view

yea the neck difference is odd

the line between the face and the neck is pretty apparent

ok i fixed the eye thing

also got the texture size way down shoutout lac compressor

i did a test with my optimized version (got it to 100k tris) and it had like no performance impact (tested it with my friend who has an ABYSMAL laptop)

now just gotta find whats causing this

very apparent here

i dont mind that the lights dynamically illuminate my face, but it just doesn't look good when its like that so i gotta find out how to tweak that

ok if im right next to a lamp the eyes get weird again

it looks a lot worse on my monitor, which may just be an hdr moment

It’s odd

[ornate stump]

You should change world. That shadow is from AO post process.

[clever cloak]

is there no way to make it so it doesn't do that in this world? i really like this world its midnight rooftop

[ornate stump]

No.

[clever cloak]

damn

ah i see

turning it off fixes it

but i gotta do that in the world settings

[ornate stump]

You will see same effect on every other world with AO post process.

[clever cloak]

thats a shame, i don't want to have to tell people to do that whenever im in this world, but it is my favourite world

[clever cloak]

that is very annoying, hopefully someone finds a way to stop that

[ornate stump]

It's had always been recommendation to not use AO post process. So that's a bad decision from the world creator.

[clever cloak]

seems im having the opposite problem in my other favourite world lol

too damn bright

well thats all beside the point, im happy with this as my avatar base so now i can get to work on getting the quest version up and running

nice, onto the quest

[teal laurel]

I am running into a funny with blendshapes.
In blender and unity they look ok
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/xK8nGXmGTztc4yb/preview
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/yb8CZ2gDgNb62SW/preview
But the second i go into play mode and play with the blendshapes

Do i not have embed perms? wtf

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/FmqF7or2gfR5w92/preview

But yea something is funny

see #general-media message for the embedded images

[junior void]

on the last image, no object is selected

[teal laurel]

It moves the verticies outside of the body for some reason

[junior void]

looks like armature link has issues with the catsuit

lets see the armature link component for it

it often shows you good hints

[teal laurel]

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/k7xJQRbyBiqJsnS/preview

should be linked fine

[teal laurel]

I have Hide Catsuit and Hide Armwarmers set to 100, which if not in the playmode looks normal

[junior void]

i assume your base has these bones

so why would it add those as new ones

[teal laurel]

This is for the collar, as my avatar does not have Neck & Ring in its armature

avi: https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/bYMEqs7tfqd6CAJ/preview
clothing: https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/ryH2DsDYPdedcMY/preview

[junior void]

fair enough. lets try to go into advanced settings and see whats set there

[teal laurel]

Just the usual https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/odgzL7xX237tXrF/preview

[junior void]

can you please disable align rotation and see if anything changes

[teal laurel]

still same issue

The armature should be linked fine, as after in playmode, i can see everything is in the right place in the avatars armature.
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/7aW8ieNnaiqRQzx/preview

I am gonna guess it touches verticies that if two blendshapes combined it will move them out of the body.

[rancid ginkgo]

i am trying to understand why it is doing that even when i upload the avatar it said failed upload

[teal laurel]

Is the issue reoccurring or only happens once. Try uploading again

[junior void]

just to double check - in what exact moment does the suit go wonky

as soon as you go into play mode?

[teal laurel]

When two plendshapes are toggled at the same time. Hide Catsuit and Hide Armwarmers

i am suspecting it moves the verticies twice causing them to move outside of the body again

[junior void]

so it does that outside of play mode as well

[rancid ginkgo]

So I didn’t go on play mode for it. I didn’t do anything you know I just did it how I usually do it you know put the shader in and then avatar after. Because like I try to upload and update my avatars and then it hits me with this a lot of times and I don’t know what it is. I tested it with a fresh new project and it still gave me the same results and I’m just trying to figure out why 😭

[teal laurel]

Nope

Thats the funny part

Thats why i am confused. Like it smells like an issue with vrcfury or something

but idk what it could be

[rancid ginkgo]

it started doing this yesterday and it didn’t do that two days ago before it happened so I’m just trying to figure out. Should I just like fix unity hub

[teal laurel]

I can unlink it from the body and see what happens ig

[junior void]

Well, even if vrcf tried to activate the hide shape twice, it has a maximum, meaning the blendshape itself

not sure how it would go over its maximum

id have to dig around the toggle setup to figure it out

[teal laurel]

Imma re-do the blendshape and see if that fixes it. Maybe i did some fucky wucky.
Still thanks for the help 🖤

Should only take me a few minutes

[rancid ginkgo]

This happened yesterday and today 🥹

[teal laurel]

Do you have any additional clothing or things added to the avatar?

If yes, try moving them out of the avatar and see when it works uploading, that way you can figure out which asset causes the issue

maybe also read logs but tbh, i never found them that useful

[rancid ginkgo]

No I didn’t add no clothes or anything. I just kept it as default. Normally, I don’t mess with those, but the only thing I wanted to do was just upload the avatar just like I normally do with my rest of them, but they only just mention about unity engine or something so I’m going to assume it has something to do with my unity hub not sure I tested out to see if it was any of my other avatars are dealing with these type of situations and one moment it lets me upload it perfectly fine and then the next it tells me it can’t upload

[teal laurel]

Is every packet up to date, especially the vrchat sdk?

[rancid ginkgo]

Yes, it’s is I even switch to 3.9.0 and same result unfortunately.

[teal laurel]

Hmm. I had similar issues where it would just fail without any apparent reason, but once i hit upload again it worked fine for me. Sorry, i don't really know what it could be.

[rancid ginkgo]

It’s okay!! I appreciate the help still. 🥹🫶🏽

[clever cloak]

anyone here familiar with vrc quest tools

trying to get the quest version going, but the materials won't change to ones with proper shaders

[teal laurel]

I just duplicate my materials and then assign them manually

[lilac musk]

Same

[left wharf]

vqt converts materials at build time, so it doesn't change anything outside of play mode.

[clever cloak]

okey dokey time to get to it

[clever cloak]

oh weird, as when i build it gives me an error

its worked for past avatars just fine

but this one it seems to be not working

[left wharf]

hmm

[clever cloak]

these are the settings I was using

[left wharf]

oh, it might be a bug

[clever cloak]

ah, that would be unfortunate

ok manual it is for now i suppose

is there a place i can find all the materials used and easily duplicate thjem

or do i need to hunt them down for each object

[junior void]

depends on how the maker organized them

i personally put all materials in one folder but it may be different for you

[clever cloak]

I should start doing that

i can sort the project for just materials

but is it possible to narrow that down to only materials in use?

[junior void]

you can use the search as well, but it will show you materials not in use, too

[clever cloak]

ah

I can work with that

[wide trench]

Would anybody be interested in teaching me how to create avatars? I want to learn so bad but so many tutorials are dated

[junior void]

are you sure you know what that entails

most people give up fast because "i thought it was easier" - it takes weeks if not months

[wide trench]

no, I’m very aware it takes a lot of effort

[clever cloak]

i am most people

I can vouch, this shit is hard

[wide trench]

I’m super in to art and things like that so I’m more than happy to spend weeks learning, I just kind of need help

[junior void]

have you tried using blender yet

[wide trench]

Yes

[junior void]

worked with free avatars to learn unity?

[wide trench]

Well see that’s the thing, I need help learning

[junior void]

im not saying its gonna be perfect

i am considering to offer, but i need proof you tried your best so far to go solo

it would be an indicator you dont just run at this blindly, thinking a guide would be so much easier

it wont, just point direction

[wide trench]

I kinda just don’t rlly know where to start yk? I’ve watched some videos and they all talk about different models and clipping or compatibility and it’s like cool I can watch a video but then if I run in to an issue I can stop and ask a question

I tried following a tutorial but then some plugins are outdated

[junior void]

thats a very fair point

[wide trench]

and there’s never any update or clarification

[junior void]

so whats your goal here? to make something from scratch?

[wide trench]

I mean, I’m chilling w the idea of buying assets and then kind of gluing them together to create something I like

Though to start I would wanna start with free assets if possible

[junior void]

yea thats a wise choice. dont spend until youre absolutely sure and know enough to spot bad assets

[wide trench]

Exactly

[junior void]

i wasnt that smart when i started lmao

[wide trench]

Could I maybe see some of ur work? :)

[lilac musk]

Just get a free public avatar and start doing things. Can't figure something out, google or ask questions in places like this.

[clever cloak]

quick question, my avatar has a material on its hair called "hair fake" and its totally invisible. Anyone know what this is for?

[clever cloak]

thats what I do still yea. good way to learn

[clever cloak]

makes the hair look weird if i use the standard shaders

[lilac musk]

A lot of people start off learning things like simple prop toggles, or shader stuff

[junior void]

i messed with assets mostly and eventually made this avatar from scratch - took roughly a year <.< but im hella proud

[wide trench]

That’s amazing

[lilac musk]

Holy shit, nice!

[clever cloak]

nice

[lilac musk]

I can't seem to dedicate too much time to one thing to be able to make a full from scratch model. I get bored or find something more entertaining to take my attention away lol

[junior void]

Believe me, it was one hell of a ride

[clever cloak]

quest vs pc. damn shaders make a difference lol

[junior void]

But i found i enjoy clay sculpting, recently started a new head and want to eventually retopo it and sell it for avatar makers

[lilac musk]

I like sculpting. Just retopology makes me rip my hair out

[junior void]

who says you have to though

[lilac musk]

uh my poly count lol

[junior void]

there are plenty of artists selling high poly sculpts

doesnt mean you can or should use it in vrc

you can commission someone else to do it also if you want

[clever cloak]

uh oh material trouble, the hair colours arent carrying over on the quest shaders

awesome

[junior void]

ive discorvered that the idea of "having to finish it" prevents me from even starting

[junior void]

So to get back to you, i gotta ask what kind of style and avi youre going for

obviously im one of the furry weirdos lol

[wide trench]

I can send u a pic of the kind of stuff I like

[junior void]

sure, lets have it

[clever cloak]

is it possible to bake a material into a texture so I can use it on quest

as the hair colour changes usingthe wrong shaders is breaking them. i somehow had this work on a prior version of this avatar but not this one for some reason

pc vs quest

[lilac musk]

Could try adding color to it. Click the white bar to change the color

[wide trench]

Like these kind of :)

[junior void]

you couldnt have picked a harder style xD

[wide trench]

sorry 😭

[junior void]

hahaha

[clever cloak]

that does change it but it just makes it a solid colour

i think im gonna just go back to the older version of the avatar and steam the material from there lol

[junior void]

so yea i wouldnt mind being a support dog for you but i have a full time job and a family as well so im not sure how much time id actually have

[wide trench]

no worries, I’ll still try my best to learn on my own and maybe just shoot you some questions here and there

[clever cloak]

this channel is a good place to start as its usually pretty active. ive gotten help at like 4 am

[wide trench]

is it cool if I add and dm you?

[junior void]

definitely

yea, if i dont respond, here is a good option

[lilac musk]

Kazin seems to live in this channel and seems to be very helpful

[hazy quest]

Does Blender's Rigify(Animation rig) exports smoothly to Unity for Vrchat?
Without any extra hassle. Cause I'm going to rig my character and I want to do some extra on it and the rig will make it easier for Animation.

If it doesn't, then I'll just rig it normally just for VRChat.

[clever cloak]

okay still having this, so strange

this avatar has proven hell to get working, this worked perfectly on other version I dont understand what changed lmao

[junior void]

if i were you id make a new material using the same shader (by hand, do not copy) and see if that works

that would prove that it is either the shader itself or this particular material

[clever cloak]

im just gonna roll back to an older version of vrc quest tools on another project and see if that works

okay that may have worked

not fully sure

ok it kinda did

old version worked. weird

damn

no end to the errors

nothing else is open

so no clue what is causing it

[junior void]

kill the other task in task manager

[clever cloak]

there is no other task

[unreal hound]

Common windows issue, often faster to restart your computer

[clever cloak]

yeah

[unreal hound]

Happens to me on Linux sometimes as well

[clever cloak]

that happens to me with fortnite a lot. It makes me restart my whole pc

so annoying

ok old version doesn't work, so it seems its the new version of the avatar since then that breaks it somehow

its 3 am i don't have it in me to troubleshoot this any later. stayed up until 5 doing that last night

ill get back to work on it after i wake up. really wanna get this base working before the end of sunday

[cobalt cloak]

hey how do i make a animation editable

[sudden violet]

Temporarely drag your animator controller into the animator component

[cobalt cloak]

how

[nimble lark]

anyone know why this happens when i open gesture manager

[junior void]

go to scene view?

[cobalt cloak]

.

[nimble lark]

hmm

how do i fix this then lmao

[junior void]

looks like weight painting is not right

[cobalt cloak]

how i cant do it

[cobalt cloak]

?

[mint badge]

hey i just had n idea and just wanted to asked if its possable
is there a way to display a song name (like you can do with osc in the chatbox) but on your avi?

[gaunt knoll]

yes it is possible

[gaunt knoll]

you drag it on your avi

then you can edit it

[cobalt cloak]

avi?

[junior void]

dang dude

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah just drag it onto the Avi in the scene or the hierarchy

Then once your done that you can click on it then edit it

If you don't have the animation tab add it with the dots on right layout

[cobalt cloak]

it still dont work even if I create a new one

aber ich kann die werte bearbeiten

[gaunt knoll]

Let me load up my pc then I will do a video

[cobalt cloak]

okay thx

Sorry for the trouble.

[gaunt knoll]

Nooo it's fine

[cobalt cloak]

ahh I dragged it onto the avi but then didn't click on the avi. Thanks again, sorry for the trouble.

[gaunt knoll]

1. check your bondery

2. check to see if your ingame height is correct by using the auto height

3. check unity to see if your feet are on the ground

@hearty gazelle

recommend you using the Sit/Stand button

depends on what headset you are using

is this the same for every avi you wear

[thorn furnace]

hi there, im still having this problem with my avatar where the viewpoint is offset no matter what i do.

[gaunt knoll]

did you do what the lads said you need to do?

[thorn furnace]

all they said was for me to change my unity version

which i did, and nothing changed

[gaunt knoll]

no they didnt they had a conv about it

[thorn furnace]

oh

i didnt see that

[gaunt knoll]

i take that back thulen said whats wrong with it (hes normally correct)
#avatar-help message

[thorn furnace]

i mean it is centered

so idk???

[gaunt knoll]

can you send a screenshot of the view point again the x,y,z

also is the avi facing y+ in blender

[thorn furnace]

no its facing x

x+

[thorn furnace]

one sec

[gaunt knoll]

Y+ is forward in blender your facing to the side that might be your issue

[junior void]

why is x not 0

x is left/right so it should be 0 aka centered

[thorn furnace]

i dont know?

[junior void]

well thats your issue

[thorn furnace]

problem is i dont know WHY its not zero

[gaunt knoll]

its facing the wrong way in blender

fix that it will work

Y+ is forward

[dim nebula]

click x and press 0

[gaunt knoll]

hush

[thorn furnace]

the viewpoint is supposed to be between the eyes

right?

[dim nebula]

yes

[gaunt knoll]

correct

now upload it

[slow hawk]

Everytime I enter playmode the textures go weird, how do I fix this??

[junior void]

looks more like the top is being toggled off

[slow hawk]

The top is part of her body, it's not a seperate mesh

[junior void]

is it maybe being hidden with a blendshape?

it just looks so perfectly gone

[slow hawk]

Its like its shoving the face texture on the body everytime I enter playmode, only issue is I don't know how to get it to not do that

[gaunt knoll]

can you use the snip tool

its kinda hard to see

[slow hawk]

?

[slow hawk]

what do you want screenshotted

or is that recording

[gaunt knoll]

yeah same think just recorded kinda hard to see

[junior void]

a before and after maybe so we can see better?

[gaunt knoll]

wish we could add something like please use snipping tool for screenshots not your phone

[slow hawk]

I did find its the face texture but still don't know the way to resolve it

[slow hawk]

That's mb I didn't know snipping tool could record I thought it was just screenshots

[gaunt knoll]

aaa see that's better

[junior void]

so are we not telling them what to look for here?

[slow hawk]

[junior void]

a material changing in play mode is always an animated one. seeing as you use vrcfury, i suggest disabling vrcfury and then going into play mode to verify it is a vrcfury component doing this

you can do thaat in the top tabs, i believe under tools but my memory sucks

[slow hawk]

Wasn't a VRCFury issue

[junior void]

if it is done by vrcfury, youll need to look through your avatar for a material swap action. if its not vrcfury doing this, it will be in your fx layer

[slow hawk]

I don't have any material swap actions active

The only type of material swap was done manually and it only affected her eyes

[junior void]

so then remove the fx layer and go to play mode again

just to debug for now and find the direction

[slow hawk]

Oh it was the FX Layer

[junior void]

so now you know where to look

[slow hawk]

Thank youu

New issue...
The mouth blendshapes are set correctly but the mouth won't open in VRChat

It was working fine when I uploaded it yesterday

[gaunt knoll]

did you add them to the avi

[slow hawk]

Ya I showed at the end of the video that they were on it

[junior void]

Die you check the mesh reference pointing to the correct mesh?

[slow hawk]

Talking about this or something else?

[gaunt knoll]

huh where did you get this avi from

[slow hawk]

I think it was aplaybox?

But the mouth works cause it works on the one I uploaded but not the new one (test)

But the new one it just won't open

Nothing was changed about the visemes

[pine valley]

my friend is getting a very vague "An error occurred while sending the request" exception when trying to upload avatars. We've turned on API logging and there's no real useful information beyond that.

I'm guessing there is an actually useful inner exception that isn't being logged

[gaunt knoll]

hi. thats weird can you send the stats above the upload and the whole unity page please

[pine valley]

the stats above the upload?

[gaunt knoll]

yes number 2

[junior void]

Yes. Especially when copying stuff it can happen that mesh references are wrong. Just click it to verify it highlights the correct mesh

[pine valley]

i don't know what that means

[junior void]

Btw you can test that in gesture manager as well

The visemes that is

[slow hawk]

It is correct, I had already checked that prior to this

[pine valley]

ah, it started working after a recompile

[pine valley]

The performance stats are acceptable -- it's a Very Poor avatar, but nothing egregious

(a security check fail would just make the avatar break in-game)

[gaunt knoll]

#avatar-help message

[pine valley]

We already read through all of the errors

(including turning off clear on play/build/recompile to make sure we weren't losing anything)

[wooden wing]

Hi, i have a small question. im trying to upload a character to vrchat. I can try the avatar in vrchat but i cant publish it. When i press the publish button then the first part (where you type in the name) just gets greyed out. I dont have any errors in the console and it also happens with the base pemplate of the model. How do i fix that?

[gaunt knoll]

i cant help if your not giving us details aka the screenshots of the screen as we cant read minds

[pine valley]

There are no further details. That's the issue

The error messages are all just generic "Failed to upload file!"

i read through the stack traces and made sure i wasn't overlooking anything else

It didn't provide, for example, an HTTP error code

I presume the actual error message was in an inner exception

but the API does not log those

[gaunt knoll]

did you check CC for packages that arnt meant to be there

[pine valley]

I didn't see anything really weird. They're on the latest SDK version

[pine valley]

The third error here looked promising, but it's just the URL it tried to upload to

(along with an auth token, which is part of why I didn't share that :p )

[slow hawk]

I found that it breaks whenever anything is in the action layer, how do I fix that

[boreal sky]

i did 2 project and still have notging i cant upload my avi can sm1 know how to fix this ?

[gaunt knoll]

send a screenshot of CC

[gaunt knoll]

thank you. all looks good thats weird that the sdk isnt working for you

[mystic basin]

unity wont even open my project since i updated to the 3.10.1 sdk verison </3

[gaunt knoll]

can you send a screenshot of your logs in CC pls

[mystic basin]

yea gimme a sec

[gaunt knoll]

when did it stop working

like a day ago or

[boreal sky]

today

like a hour or 2 ago

[gaunt knoll]

server might be down for you are you in usa

[boreal sky]

no im in eu

[gaunt knoll]

wait i take that back there sdk is a file thing as

go back to CC and try this

[gaunt knoll]

is this your first time using CC/ unity

[mystic basin]

no ive been using it for like 5 years now

and cc since it came out

[gaunt knoll]

are you okay with doing a package reset

[mystic basin]

yeah im doing it rn just to see

yeah no, unity immediately crashed when i opened the project

[gaunt knoll]

what did you do to reset it?

[mystic basin]

i reinstalled all of the packages in cc

unless you mean like completely resetting everything

[gaunt knoll]

windows + R

%LocalAppData%\VRChatCreatorCompanion\

do you see the settings.json move that to your desktop do the same for repos

[mystic basin]

alr

[gaunt knoll]

open up CC

make a new package does unity open now

[mystic basin]

nope, crashed again

im trying one more time tho

[gaunt knoll]

Your using unity 2022.3.22f1 right

And also project 2022

[mystic basin]

yeah i am

[mystic basin]

also nope still wont work </3

[gaunt knoll]

Okay because it says project 2019 in your logs

Does it even open unity

[mystic basin]

i have an older file from the 2019 version

[gaunt knoll]

Aaa fair

[mystic basin]

also it opens and loads

but it crashes around halfway through loading it

[gaunt knoll]

Aaa how much storage do you have in your C: drive

[mystic basin]

i have like 7 gigs free

[gaunt knoll]

That would be why

Unity needs a minimum of 20 GB

[mystic basin]

the weird thing about that is it opened just fine on friday withthe same amount of storage free

but i updated the sdk from 3.7.6 to 3.10.1 and thats when it started

[gaunt knoll]

To load cashes and stuff the cash may of been on your ram