avatar-help

[arctic ginkgo]

right, and while there's an option for setting the origin to specific places through the menu, generally speaking the relationship between your mesh and your object is changed via edit mode

which is what i'm trying to get you to understand

so that you don't get as frustrated with blender

[hollow rivet]

HOLY CRAP thank you

ur layout was a bit different so i got kinda confused lol

[arctic ginkgo]

oh sorry i'm in a slightly older version

i use 4.0

[subtle flicker]

hate to turn up unannounced but does anyone mind walking me through my first avi? ive tried following yt tutorials etc but i cant seem to get everything to work

[violet cobalt]

so probably a really easy fix but how do I remove the eye shine? can't seem to find a way to do it

[desert elk]

just explain what part you're stuck on

because it's a big task what you're asking

[desert elk]

if it's a separate texture you can just set it to be invisible or erase it

[subtle flicker]

as far as i know ive done the avi up to importing it to unity. i cant seem to get the textures to import tho. but honestly i feel like ive messed up at some point allong the way.

ive got all the assets etc, put them all together following a yt tutorial but idk

[desert elk]

you import the textures manually by dragging and dropping them into the assets folder

then you need to make materials and assign them to the avatar

[subtle flicker]

so the textures i have in blender automatically wont work?

[desert elk]

automatically is not recommended

you can export them from blender and assign them manually

[violet cobalt]

Well as far as I can see, these are the only two textures for the face/head. Tried editing both to no avail

[desert elk]

something like here (it'll look different for a different shader)
#avatar-help message

[desert elk]

did you locate the eye shine part?

on those textures

[violet cobalt]

i assumed it was the white bits in the top right or the left side

Erased both but neither worked. Don't see what else it culd be

[desert elk]

i don't either

[violet cobalt]

Ah well thanks anyways

[subtle flicker]

the .fbx i used seems to have came with the texture built into the model but i cant find the .png

[desert elk]

maybe delete the mesh of that part in blender?

[desert elk]

You can export them from blender manually

if the model has textures in blender you should be able to export them

[subtle flicker]

im so confused

[desert elk]

https://youtu.be/wJqNeqvwNQw?si=1yOKRdPXQBS4sh97

this for example

[subtle flicker]

no ive now somehow made the problem worse

[desert elk]

?

[subtle flicker]

where has he gone XD

[desert elk]

the avatar's not in the hierarchy, is that what you mean?

[subtle flicker]

oh yerp mb

so now how do i get the textures onto the specific clothes?

[iron sage]

How do I get the default animations for my avatar if unity considers the rig a non humanoid

[arctic ginkgo]

you can't

generic rigs need to be animated yourself

[iron sage]

It’s not a generic rig that’s the thing

[arctic ginkgo]

well those are the options

humanoid or generic

[iron sage]

I had to remap bones in the humanoid rig config

[arctic ginkgo]

or no rig

[desert elk]

that's still humanoid

if you have no errors, the animations should play

[arctic ginkgo]

is there an issue with the humanoid rig configuration?

[iron sage]

Yes but the thing is I’m thinking it may be a bone parenting issue

[desert elk]

#avatar-help message

[desert elk]

so parent it correctly?

[iron sage]

I’m not the one who rigged it how am I supposed to do that

[arctic ginkgo]

look in the FBX import settings. Under the "rig" tab there should be a "configure" button. If there were any issues during the configure process, there should be a dropdown underneath this button. Look to see if there is something there

this will show you any errors with the humanoid rig

[desert elk]

import the model into blender
click the armature
go to edit mode
parent the bones

but check the errors first

like Sunshine/Peepymou said

[iron sage]

Here I’ll have to show what I mean

Gimme a sec

[desert elk]

that'd be better

[iron sage]

It was a model off of sketchfab if that helps

ok so

i clicked on apply humanoid rig

and it does its thing just fine no errors

everything looks fine

but then when i go to build and test it

which is why i was thinking it was a bone parent issue

[desert elk]

well, can you show your rig set up and your hierarchy? and not a cut up screenshot

[iron sage]

rig setup??

[desert elk]

yeah, the configure

right side

bottom

where you said you needed to correct the bones

[iron sage]

do you mean under the person thing with the green dots

[subtle flicker]

how do i get YRM/Mtoon into unity? im guessing its a 3rd party addon?

[desert elk]

i said

a different shader may look different

this is just the shader that I choose to use

you can use whatever one you want to use

Poiyomi, Liltoon, a vrc mobile shader... whatever you want

you will need to download the shader you want to use if you want to use a custom one for the PC avatar

[desert elk]

yes

and your bone hierarchy

that's on the left

[iron sage]

like this?

[violet cobalt]

I could try. Just not too savvy in blender

[desert elk]

oh boy, they have no names

give me a minute to look at it

[iron sage]

yeah like i said its a model off sketchfab i didnt make this

[desert elk]

yeah, that's gonna need a lot of blender work

to make this make sense

[iron sage]

im not too good when it comes to blender

i know how to do some basic stuff but thats about it

[desert elk]

VRC Traders for commissions or good luck learning

[iron sage]

is there a guide on yt or something that can help me unparent every bone without screwing up the actual rig

[desert elk]

basically you need to get it to have a VRC ready rig #avatar-rigging has pinned messages explaining what it looks like. Or you can look at this photo #avatar-help message

[iron sage]

maybe a generic rig would be better im not sure

[desert elk]

it all depends on how your avatar's armature looks like. There's not one guide for everything. You could look into the unofficial cats plugin and their merge weights function

[desert elk]

then it wouldn't do any animations

it would be immobile unless you learned how to make your own animations

which imo is harder then making the rig work

[iron sage]

so basically unless i reparent all the bones its impossible for this model to have a proper humanoid rig?

[desert elk]

reparent and get rid of the unneeded bones, yes

[subtle flicker]

any idea why the shoe seems to be like half missing?

[desert elk]

turn backface culling off

[night ember]

normals are inverted

[desert elk]

or that

whichever you want to do

[subtle flicker]

i havent touched either of them

[desert elk]

the normals could be something that the avatar creator/shoe creator forgot about

[subtle flicker]

fixed

thanks guys

[celest stump]

can someone tell me why the past two avatars ive tried to upload stop at the end of uploading and says "failed to upload avatar?" i detached the blueprint before hand anf ive remade the projects like 4 times but i don't know what to do.

[subtle flicker]

i present.... Le Asset Rip

[desert elk]

are there any other errors than that?

[violet cobalt]

What difference does it make if I switch my rendering mode from opaque to cutout?

[celest stump]

let me run it again so i can screen shot it.

[iron sage]

welp time to try and reparent stuff

if i remove all the parents from the bones is that gonna mess with the mesh itself or

[violet cobalt]

asking cause i managed to remove the shine from the eyes but if i leave it on opaque it leaves a hole where the shine was, but if i change it to cutout it's fixed

[ornate stump]

Cutout means don't render certain part of surface if alpha value is less than cutoff value. Opaque always renders surface whole.

[bright vapor]

Does this really matter?

[iron sage]

yes

i learned the hard way

your avatar will fail validation otherwise

[bright vapor]

how 😭

theres no complaints about it in the rig section

[iron sage]

chest is an optional bone but the sdk doesnt like it unmapped

[bright vapor]

is that not a glitch?

[iron sage]

no

its normal

[bright vapor]

gonna crashout

i dopn wanna make a whole new bone it take sme a minute 😭

then i have to reimport the model and readd the physbones

[iron sage]

yeah im currently trying to reparent every bone on a model from sketchfab to actually work with vrc's humanoid rig option

[bright vapor]

is there any way to copy transforms?

for the bones heads and stuff

[iron sage]

no idea

im not the one to ask

i just know a few things since ive been trying to get this dang thing to work for the past like month

on and off

[celest stump]

i know what the blueprint is. and i detached it before i uploaded so i don't know why it gives that error after the fact

[pulsar trout]

Hey is anyone here any good at weight painting? I've gotten almost everything done but am really stuck. I would really appreciate any tips

[desert elk]

optional in unity doesn't mean optional in vrchat

upper chest is optional

[iron sage]

upper chest yes

i mean the actual chest

[desert elk]

yes

it's not optional

for unity, it is, for vrchat it is not

unity ≠ vrchat

[iron sage]

anyways would i be safe to remove all the vertex groups and parents from the bones

or do i just remove parents

[desert elk]

you'd need to weight paint everything all over again

vertex groups hold your weight painting

[iron sage]

oh

ok

so just parents

[pulsar trout]

hey sorry to bother you with a ping, but if it's not much trouble could you help me with weight painting? All I have left is a torso piece and a skirt on my model

[iron sage]

ok Elliot does this parenting look good? would this be able to use the humanoid rigging properly?

this is the same model i just renamed the bones and reparented them

wasnt as much of a pain as i thought it wouldve been

gonna test it

do these errors mean much if im just using this for quest

[hollow rivet]

hey uhh.. how do i fix this? lol

this prob aint the best topology

[gray zinc]

i fixed bone heat weighting failed problem, so this model was weird

left arm wrong angel and face glitch

[gray zinc]

i was rest position, now only face have pronlem

[misty ridge]

Does using psd files as textures take up more texture space or smth and makes avis less optimized than using png files?

[timber wharf]

@misty ridge no, any texture gets converted into internal gpu formats

[ornate stump]

What did you do before it became like that?

[ornate stump]

How is it supposed to be?

[gray zinc]

automatic weight paint

[ornate stump]

The face normal broke because of automatic weight?

[hollow rivet]

Well.. I’m not sure how to explain

But It probably shouldn’t look like THAT

it should look more… organized in a way

I guess

[ornate stump]

It's already organize in some way.

[hollow rivet]

Well yeah but it’s got those jagged lines

[gray zinc]

is by distance

[hollow rivet]

Oh what the fuck

Topology broken

[ornate stump]

Try google for "blender circle face fill" and see what you actually need.

[hollow rivet]

Oh okay

[ornate stump]

No.

What does it do if you disable armature modifier?

[wraith blaze]

if i were to make an avatar for a friend how do i even give it to them

[ornate stump]

Send them the unity project and have them upload.

[wraith blaze]

and if they don’t have a computer?

[ornate stump]

Probably upload to your account as public and have them clone. Otherwise I can't really tell.

[wraith blaze]

dang, really thought there was some official way to do it… that’s really dumb. thanks though

[ornate stump]

We are talkin about the face now.

[gray zinc]

how do i disable armature modifier

[ornate stump]

The blue monitor button on the modifier.

[gray zinc]

this

[half chasm]

can somebody help? i made a blendshape for my avatar for a diffrent body and face shape and there seems to be some messups/ weird atifacting, the texture is the same file

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[gray zinc]

right?

[ornate stump]

Yes. If the face normals are still broken, that wasn't caused by auto weight paint. It's something else.

[gray zinc]

else?

[ornate stump]

No idea what did you do. You probably had no idea either because some command was used accidentally.

[iron sage]

ok anyone with VRCFury knowledge, how do i add icons to my toggles?

ive seen a ton of avatars with icons on the toggles so im trying to add one too

wait nvm found it i think

[wraith blaze]

do you still need help?

[ocean badger]

im trying install the customizable eyelashes from bread expert on my quest avi but this keeps happening when i try to merge fx layers

[gray zinc]

is smooth but why edge showed

[junior void]

custom normals maybe?

[ornate stump]

Can you show wireframe mode?

[dusky moon]

does anyone know how the cute dancer thing works

ik its not poi but just curious

[wraith blaze]

How do I change the location of a VRChat asset in the gesture menu? For example, I have a Minecraft cat asset with its own submenu that includes colors, toggles, and other options. It automatically appears in the default Expressions menu, but I want to move it into a custom Accessories submenu I created.

When I import an asset like the Minecraft cat with its own menu, it always gets added to the default Expressions menu, and I don’t know how to change that.

When I test my avatar in the Av3 emulator, I see the main menu with Options, Tools, Emotes, and Expressions. Clicking Expressions shows the four default menus that came with my avatar plus additional preset menus I have added. They all appear under Expressions by default and work fine.

My question is: instead of having these assets appear only in the default Expressions menu, how can I place them into the specific custom submenus I created, such as my Accessories submenu?

I have been stuck trying to fix this and I'm pretty new to what I'm doing so I'd love some help 😭

[ornate stump]

Is your asset using vrcfury or modular avatar?

[wraith blaze]

yes i use VRCfury

[ornate stump]

What is the cute dancer thing?

[ornate stump]

https://vrcfury.com/components/other#move-menu-item

[ocean badger]

bump

[wraith blaze]

but how do i edit that? im kinda dumb like under the asset where do i go to find that input to change

[ornate stump]

It's the component you have to add on anywhere in your avatar.

[ornate stump]

Proceed as the message said.

[wraith blaze]

wait im dumb sorry

[wraith blaze]

it works tysm i was so lost

i just was confused i added the component under the asset rather than on the avatar itself

[radiant tree]

'sup dudes, I got a dilemma it's fine in blender, but not unity, any advice?

[dusky moon]

It's like a prefab with a script that sets up dances and sounds i figured it out tho it was just the format my audio was in

[full harbor]

does anyone have an idea on why this happens with my outlines? thanks!

only happens at the nails but anywhere around the body its pretty fine

[ornate stump]

It shouldn't be doing that, and I can't remember what feature that causes it doing that.

[small valve]

I guess thats the downside of using "VRC Animator Play Audio" because it only supports Integer, even if you only need a true or false / 0 and 1. But it doesn't support bool and using int will need 8 bits instead of one bits for every integer.

I wish this "Parameter" would also support bools and not only ints. Last time I tried it, it did not work because he doesn't understand a 0 as a false or a 1 as a true.

[still shuttle]

I've used an animator play audio with a bool before. I've used it to make buttons that play sound when you touch them.

And all that was needed was a simple on/off toggle with a bool. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're talking about

[small valve]

My use is it to avoid to many audio sources so I dont get very poor ranked for having over 8 and with this, I always can take the same audio source because the sound effects dont need to play all at once.

[still shuttle]

Yeah that's what I used it for too. For example I have a bark button on an avatar, when you press it he barks, and there's like 3 or 4 different bark audios it cycles through randomly

[ornate stump]

You could just create another state with a different audio clip to play and transition into that state with bool condition.

[small valve]

There is a list for clips, "0" is a empty audio file, with no audio, but its a mp3 so I dont get an error for not putting something into element 0 in this list and "1" is a specific sound that does play, if my animation does enable my item by turning a int to one, because turning a bool to true doesen't seem to count as one.

While 1 bool only claims one bit while 1 int claims 8 bit. int does work, but it waste so much synced bits space because I only take use of 0 and 1 of this entire 8 bit large int...

Waht could help would be if the VRChat Team would make that a parameter in the "VRC Animator Play Audio" also can understand bools and translate a false into 0 and a true into 1 as long the clips List is not larger than 2.

[ornate stump]

You could just add that bool into the transition condition though.

Since it's only for to play and not to play.

[small valve]

What do yyou mean by "transition condition though"?
Where can I find it?

[ornate stump]

That arrow from "make transition", and see "conditions" field.

How did you make this work if you have never set transition condition?

[small valve]

?

[ornate stump]

That condition.

[small valve]

Whats wrong with it?

[ornate stump]

You already have condition parameter the same as the one that make it play the audio, then you shouldn't set playing order in play audio behavior.

[ornate stump]

You should have only one clip and set order to random. There is no need for Empty.

[small valve]

But 0 is a disabled Item that should not play or atleast not be hearable, thats why Empty.mp3 is a mp3 file with no audio inside. Even if its playing, you wont hear it and the Array is happy because zero is not a unassigned value and only if you enable the item, it will change to one and play a this audioclip. and if it return to zero, it will play this empty audio that you will not hear but the VRC Animator Play Audio is happy because it got its assigned value "Empty.mp3"

[ornate stump]

Because when it's 0, the state would transition out from the "On" state into "Off" already and audio would no longer be touched.

Just think that "when it's on, play that single audio clip" for that play audio behaviour.

[ornate stump]

I just saw the problem: you added the play behaviour on the layer itself which is incorrect. You should add the behaviour on the state instead.

[small valve]

turning the value to zero is not exiting this animation, it will stay play the animation of the disabled item as long you don't turn it on.
My issue is that I wish to use bool instead of it because a bool only take 1 bit instead of 8 and if you have multiple items like me, wasting for every item 8 synced bits gets very noticeable instead of only one with a bool.
But I need to use bool because "VRC Animator Play Audio" is not smart enough to also understand a bool parameter or to translate a false to zero and a true to one.

[ornate stump]

You misunderstood the whole process, it's using int because you tell it to play in order according to parameter, which order must be certain kind of number. And I already point out what you're doing it incorrectly: you put the play behaviour in the wrong place.

That's the reason the play always active regardless of the state it plays.

[pearl fable]

I've got a 3d head model which I would like to put on an avatar base and upload, what would be the easiest way to do this?

[ornate stump]

Might be easy as putting the head into the base's head bone. But there would be some minor details on that.

[small valve]

You mean like this?
and I use a bool for the arrow?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[small valve]

I only hope the VRC Contact Receiver is also compatible with bools.

[night ember]

2 of the contact settings is bool driven

The other is float

[ornate stump]

It already is.

[small valve]

good, thanks.

[timid kite]

why do people copy their avatar, unpack and then press play mode?

[crisp rampart]

can someone help me in the vrc constraints
when i toggle it off and on it doesn't reset the position it just go back to where first time i toggled it

[crisp rampart]

no idea some people do that just so they can adjust it in play mode and make a prefab since it doesn't save what u did in the play mod

[pearl fable]

Why does the rig in my fbx correctly apply in unity but not in blender? Can I still edit safely in blender if the rig doesn't match the one in unity??

I've tried using cats, still very different from the unity version

[small valve]

What is "Unique Random" and "Roundabout" for?

And how different is Random vs Unique Random?

[desert elk]

using cats for what exactly?

and if you imported the same fbx you had in unity, it should look the same

how is it different?

[pearl fable]

top is blender bottom is unity

[somber sequoia]

these are clearly explained in the documentation
which I happened to just read because I somehow missed that Parameter was a valid option, that's a cool feature.

[small valve]

But where can I find thd pdf or the website with that specific information?

[somber sequoia]

not sure why a web search or search in VRChat's documentation wouldn't work for you, but here, this one's on me 'cause I have it open in a tab:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-play-audio

[small valve]

Thats why.

[somber sequoia]

it came up for me, but okay

oh I see, I searched for VRC Animator Play Audio

[pure cedar]

Can anyone help me? It's rigged correctly in blender, but when imported into unity the parts of the droid just go everywhere

[somber sequoia]

you're missing a spine bone, you should have: hips -> spine -> chest -> neck -> head
Also in Blender, make sure all your humanoid bones have roll set to 0.

[pure cedar]

It even looks weird in the small preview

[pure cedar]

Ohh what?

[somber sequoia]

oh and you need shoulder bones - there's a sample rig image pinned in #avatar-rigging

[pure cedar]

But this is a robot character, how am i supposed to add a shoulder bone and stuff when its all just hinges?

[somber sequoia]

you don't have to weight paint them but they are required if you want this to be humanoid in VRChat

chest -> shoulder -> upper arm

[pure cedar]

I see

Do i need to set up IK in blender too?

[somber sequoia]

nope. it's useful if you want to make animations there, but all you need is a valid armature for VRChat

[pure cedar]

So how would i go about adding "fake" bones to my rig?

[somber sequoia]

just extrude bones from the chest bone's tail and make them the parent of the upper arm bones

[pure cedar]

Sorry what

I dont understand what you mean

I added shoulders

[somber sequoia]

that'll work

[primal spruce]

cant drag stuff in hierchry?

[pure cedar]

How do i do the spine thing

[somber sequoia]

what do you mean?

[pure cedar]

You said i needed more spine segments

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, I'd split the hips bone, and weight paint that hips segment to it, then the next mesh up to the "spine" bone

though if you need that whole body to actually be rigid you could probably just make the bone and not weight paint anything to it.

[pure cedar]

Might be a dumb question, but how do i "split" a bone?

[somber sequoia]

if I recall correctly, select the bone, right click, "subdivide"

[primal spruce]

anybody know why i cant move anything in my hierachy?

i can open stuff, but i cant drag anything

[somber sequoia]

you'll have to give us more context?

[primal spruce]

lIKE

I can open stuff and what not

i can click on stuff

but i can hold on a object/game object

and drag it into the unity hiearchy

it just wont work

wont even show that im dragging it

[pure cedar]

Thanks, now i have this problem. Im not sure what is the exact cause/solve for this but do you see?

if the spine bends it bends weirdly and out of proportion

[somber sequoia]

weight painting probably, though I'm not quite sure what you're indicating

[pure cedar]

It has no weight painting because all the moving parts are separate

But if the spine bends like this, it should limit the movement to only pivot from the hip bone

[somber sequoia]

it must have weights if you want the mesh to move with the bones

[pure cedar]

I have the parts directly parented to each bone

[somber sequoia]

(clarifying because "painting" is the method to apply weight)

ohhhh

now I see why it's all weird in vrchat

[pure cedar]

oh...

tell me

[somber sequoia]

Ideally you join all the body parts into a single mesh object, which is a child of the armature, and the parts are weighted to the correct bones. Even if the weight is just 1, so they only track a single bone.

[pure cedar]

Is that really necessary

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure if you can make the method you've done work in vrchat but also it's way worse for rendering having each part being a separate mesh part

[pure cedar]

I see

Is there a quick way to do it?

Because if i join it all into a single mesh it will be hell separating each part by weight painting

[somber sequoia]

it isn't, but also you don't have to actually join them until you export, you can leave them separate to weight paint if you want

[pure cedar]

Oh my god

[somber sequoia]

you don't even have to weight paint - you could simply assign all vertices in a part to a vertex group named for the bone, then just set the weight to 1

[pure cedar]

How do i apply the bone to the vertex group

[somber sequoia]

you don't, vertex groups are on mesh objects and contain.... vertices.

[pure cedar]

Im so confused rn

[somber sequoia]

but those are matched to bones by the name itself - make the group's name the same as the bone's name

[pure cedar]

OOohh

So i just make a vertex group with all the verts per body part with the same name as the corresponding bone, then join it all into 1 mesh and export?

But do i still need the extra spine bones

[somber sequoia]

you must have that spine bone if you want it to be considered humanoid by vrchat

[pure cedar]

is this enough?

[somber sequoia]

sure

[pure cedar]

i still have this issue though

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure how I'd weight that, I haven't really done a thing like this. Maybe someone else has a suggestion

[pure cedar]

What if i just make the middle bone really small

[pure cedar]

Do i have to add a vertex group for EVERY bone or just the ones that i "need"

[somber sequoia]

nope, you don't need empty vertex groups

[pure cedar]

I did a test and it doesnt deform with the bones

[teal field]

hey, keep getting this error when trying to make an animation for a mat swap

[echo spear]

This is probaby a simple fix, But i made a facial edit of my avatar in blender but it didnt export properly to Unity, so I intended on just copying the blendshape value, but as it turns it effected the entire Original avatar (Bounds and Bones and even anims were off) Is there a simple way to move over your edited blendshapes without back peddling to blender?

[somber sequoia]

are you in pose mode? if so, it's not weighted. if not, that's why

What I usually do for rigid things is select the armature, then shift-select mesh, go into weight mode. Then tab into edit mode, select the vertices I want, tab back to weight mode, select the right bone, turn on "paint mask" in the upper right, then in the menu: weights -> set weight, with "weight" = 1 at the top.
that sets the weights for all selected vertices to that weight.

(see also the history in #avatar-rigging for more tips)

good luck, I'll bbl 🙂

[small valve]

Well I guess I poisened my parameter, it causes c# errors after making a new one with the same name but int and then later deleting it again and making it bool.
Now I have to use a new name and that fixes the errors because it seems the old parameter name was poisened.

[pure cedar]

I can't find Paint mask?

[primal spruce]

I cant move stuff in unity
i can click, right click but i cant drag it anywhere

this includes the project tab, and the hierachy tab

[somber sequoia]

left-most of those 3 icons there, not sure why it didn't grab my pointer

[sweet geode]

hey quick question, for these fishnets im trying to add to the novabeast the intructions say "Thank you for purchasing the Partypunk Set for Novabeast!

I recommend using VRCFury to attach your asset: https://vrcfury.com/

Once you have VRCFury installed into your project, you just have to drop the included prefabs on the base avatar object.

To make the fishnet toggle work, select your body material in the inspector, enable "Main Color 3rd", drag one of the fishnet textures into "Color" and set its alpha to 0. (This only applies to lilToon shader)

Hopefully you'll enjoy using this asset as much as I enjoyed making it!

With love
Polycrow"

im using poiyomyi toon and im not seeing main color 3rd, i added them as a decal and that worked but then i dont have a way to toggle them on and off

[somber sequoia]

of course a different shader is not going to have the same options

[echo spear]

Any advice on this? Thanks in advance

[somber sequoia]

you can't edit blendshapes in unity, not sure what you did there

[echo spear]

they're already in the asset, you absolutely can, but that really what I'm asking here..

[somber sequoia]

you can change the value but that's not "editing". I'm not sure I get what you're asking though

[echo spear]

its more about it staying the same throught different duplications using the values set inside of blender

[somber sequoia]

do you mean you want to set the default value?

[echo spear]

I'm looking for a way to copy the default components id made by changing the values inside of blender, they were effective but When i make a duplicate avatar in unity to apply those changes it doesnt work. I'm just looking for a way to copy those blendshape component values to another skin mesh render. Sorry i dont know particular terminology

exporting the edit to the unity package breaks it thats hwy i ask

sorry "changes"

[somber sequoia]

You could fix the export - usually it's just a matter of using the same export settings as before - probably setting "apply scalings" to "FBX All"

but otherwise, I don't know if you can actually set the default value of a blendshape - you might try changing it, then right click on the blendshape name and "apply to prefab" might be in that menu

[echo spear]

ive done all those fixes, none applied. ive exported it with every function necessary. I'm trying to change it from the default is my point! im trying to get the changes to persist without breaking anything so i figured with changing the mesh itself would be the easiest way. Is what your refering to inside of blender or unity ?

[somber sequoia]

unity

I haven't tried to apply settings to an avatar prefab, I have to other prefabs I've made.

[echo spear]

no dice! but it did make me think of something, hold up!

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably consider just redoing the avatar after exporting from Blender to a new filename, not being able to update from Blender would completely break my workflow.

[split bone]

Trying to figure out why it's giving me this nonsense. I added a rather heavy asset, had to kill a grenades asset and a handguns assets to reduce the parameters limit. I don't recall deleting anything else

Am I just screwed to having to restart all over again and hop eI don't accidentally delete something?

It gives me another 60-80 of these same errors every time I click on the scene

[somber sequoia]

always show the first 2-3 errors, many of the others are likely side-effect.s

[split bone]

They're all showing up exactly the same

[somber sequoia]

did you restart unity?

[split bone]

I didn't. Lemme try that

[echo spear]

I managed with your advice, I found a way to copy the component inside unity. Thank uuu

[somber sequoia]

ah cool

[split bone]

Seems to have fixed it so far. Uploading now

[somber sequoia]

also cool - sometimes it just gets in a weird state

[agile birch]

why do i keep getting this error if my entire rig is properly mapped??

I also have a pc version and quest version, both share the same avatar humanoid, the pc one doesnt have the issue however

[somber sequoia]

show the hierarchy from armature root to head

[limpid cargo]

how did you create the quest version?
did you just duplicate the game object of pc

[agile birch]

i used the quest tool thingy

also i just realised the entire armature is missing 💀

[somber sequoia]

oh that's a problem

[limpid cargo]

if the pc one works fine, please just duplicate it and it should stay the same…

[agile birch]

i redid the quest tool thing and now i have the armature

thanks for the help 🙏

[sweet geode]

imm trying to get these stalkings to work with the nova beast but even though they look fine in the scene when i enter play mode and toggle them on they break, ive tried linking the blend shapes and arrmiture but its still broken, when i pose the avatar they dont move with it they stay stuck in an upright position

[agile birch]

did you parent the bones of the stalkings to the matching bones of your avatar & did you weight paing the armature of the stalkings in blender accordingly to your avatar's ?

[sweet geode]

ive tried parrenting them to both just the main body and the hips both of those still had them breaking so im not sure where they would go, the panties work just fine it only the talkings that are breaking but the panties and talkings are one in the same their not seperate assets

[agile birch]

do you have modular avatar?

[sweet geode]

i dont no, i think ive heard of that, im assuming that goes into the companion app then added to unity right?

[mental estuary]

You've put the wrong object into the armature link's "Link From" section. For those clothes it should likely the hips of the armature, and you choose Hips in the dropdown below

[agile birch]

yeah but you can also have it as a package, it's really good for linking armatures to clothes

[mental estuary]

You can see in the screenshot they're already using VRCFury for linking

[agile birch]

oh

say you have your amarture like this, with MA you can right click on the "SSMAYUCLOTHESfbx", find MA and setup outfit

[sweet geode]

Ok so i changed it and its broken in a different way now, it still sits to far forward when I toggle them on

[mental estuary]

Are they linked fine now? So they move with your legs?

Because the placement is likely just that they were modified incorrectly and so you need to disable the alignment in the advanced settings

If you want more help with VRCFury I'd suggest joining their Discord server

[sweet geode]

No they dont move with the legs i thought It might be in the wronf parent but even when thier under body or hips they wont follow the legs

[mental estuary]

I'd still recommend asking for VRCFury help in VRCFury's server

[sweet geode]

Yeah! Will do

[tidal void]

How can I know which hand gesture values correspond to each of the default gestures?

[somber sequoia]

the documentation!
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#gestureleft-and-gestureright-values

[tidal void]

Thanks!!!

[somber sequoia]

unless you mean which expressions they cause, in which case there is no standard and you'd have to look in your FX animator to see what happens.

[tidal void]

Yeah I wanted those exactly!

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[mystic marten]

I keep getting security check failed on a avatar i bought and the owner had said that they wouldn’t be fixing it as they recently made a v2 version

How do i fix the quest version from doing that cause the pc version works fine

[dusk pulsar]

What compression method would be the best for body and face of booth model?
Should I also set body to 2K if I'm using better compression methods?

Thanks.

[somber sequoia]

is it Very Very poor?

[mystic marten]

Very poor it just says

[somber sequoia]

right but there's Very Poor at 70,001 polygons, and then there's actually very very poor monstrosities.

usually the security checks get things that are egregious

[mystic marten]

Ohh yeh too many triangles

how do i reduce that?

[somber sequoia]

post stats (probably in #avatar-optimization ), maybe we can guess

[mystic marten]

Alrighty well ill check that out then thanks

[limpid cargo]

(that’s such a cute profile picture …)

[dusk pulsar]

Should I use this for Face and Body? Face - 2K; Body - 4K.

[somber sequoia]

do you actually need 4k?

[dusk pulsar]

idk, I've been told to use 4K for body in general

Everything else from 2k to 256, depending on how big the part is

[somber sequoia]

don't use 4k unless you actually need the detail

[dusk pulsar]

and masks - usually lower than those.

[limpid cargo]

please don’t use 4k.

[dusk pulsar]

Is 2K at best format same as 4K?

4K at Normal Quality compared to 2K with best compression algorithm and format.

[night ember]

there is never a reason you should be using 4k

also its based on the size of the image you are using since you cant go bigger than its max size

[limpid cargo]

just don’t use 4k.

[balmy barn]

oh no not 4k texture , here is one that uses a 4k+2k texture so scary , 4k baked texture on a 2k is a noticable quality loss

[limpid cargo]

and, addition what they said ^

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, I do sometimes also. It's why I said "unless you actually need"

[fluid star]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

did you restart unity and try again?

[narrow yoke]

So, super simple question (That I don't have the time or ability to test rn):

If I have contact receivers on my avatar (That don't need to do anything visual for quest... Its for haptics) do I actually have to add those contact receivers to the quest version of the avatar or is it only necesarry for PC?

[somber sequoia]

you can have a completely different avatar for quest if you want

[narrow yoke]

Thats not the question I asked. What I meant is, will the contact receivers still receive contact from a quest user if the quest version of the avatar does not have them

[somber sequoia]

oh I see. A quest user will only see your quest version, so I would guess that those users wouldn't trigger the contacts on the PC one

[narrow yoke]

Guessing is not exactly what Im looking for lol... Also, setting them to 'Local only' does it still receive the contacts from others 🤔

if it does then I believe I only need to set up the contacts on the PC version

[somber sequoia]

iirc local only means that only you the wearer will have the variables set in your animator, which in the case of triggering personal haptics, sounds ideal

[narrow yoke]

Yeah, the docs for it are a bit vague... "Limit this contact to only work on the local client"
Just had to think through it I guess

[somber sequoia]

yeah - in the receiver you have other settings for "allow self" vs. "allow others"

[narrow yoke]

First time Ive ever worked with contacts

[somber sequoia]

the docs are a little vague in parts

[tidal void]

Can someone tell me where to find the animations at the bottom left so I can see them all and preview them?

They show up there on my other avi when I select the root on the hierarchy, but on this one I can't find them at all

[limpid cargo]

you may find the animation clips in the avatar’s relevant folder.

[somber sequoia]

You need to select an avatar with the animator containing animations you want to edit in its Animator component, then you can pick them from the dropdown there and work on them

[tidal void]

Yeah I can find them in project, but I can't preview them when I open them straight from their file. I meant something like this, where I can select the dropdown

[somber sequoia]

you don't have the controller in question in the Animator component's controller slot

[tidal void]

Let me check

[somber sequoia]

I can see it in your initial image

or rather, not see it, since the slot is empty 🙂

[tidal void]

I'm blind. Thank you very much 🙂

[pure cedar]

I dont see that icon

Is it in blender 4.4? im on 4.3.2

[somber sequoia]

it's been in every version I've used from 2.9something up

[pure cedar]

Oh

Its not there

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing maybe you just clicked the armature and went to weight paint

whereas I clicked the armature and then shift-clicked the mesh I wanted to paint and then went to weight paint

[pure cedar]

Yeah, clicked armarure, then shift click mesh, then edit mode and select all, then back to weight

[somber sequoia]

does your mesh object have an armature modifier, with the armature in its slot?

oh - if you don't have that it wouldn't be moving in pose mode either

[pure cedar]

What

I have no modifiers

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

you must, this won't work otherwise

[pure cedar]

Do you see the issue im having

Why does bending the spine when joining the mesh together screw up everything?

[somber sequoia]

can't really tell from here but probably the answer is "weight painting" somehow

[uneven whale]

Please tell me how to set up avatar physics so that it is visible on android mobile? When I log in from PC, physics is visible, when I log in from mobile, physics is not visible

[somber sequoia]

if you read the stats report when building for android, see if it says you have too many physbones and so it removed them all

[uneven whale]

do i need to reduce the amount of physical bones? i just have no physics at all when i log in from android

[somber sequoia]

I cannot tell you this without having seen your stats

[limpid cargo]

as he said, check the warnings when you are uploading to the android sdk. if you see “physbone components …. removed at runtime” you have too many physbones and must remove some physbone components. (not bones, the vrc physbone components you add to the bone in unity to give it physics)

[uneven whale]

please tell me, do you know the approximate limit of physbone? Where can I read about it?

[limpid cargo]

for android, it is 8. more and 8 and it will be removed.

you can check the full performance guidelines here:

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/

please consider scrolling to the bottom for Android stats.

[uneven whale]

Thank you!

[uneven whale]

I have another question. Sometimes the lighting on my avatar's meshes is different. On the head it's yellowish, on the body it's bluish. At the same time, the materials have the same settings. What is this and how can I deal with it?

[timber wharf]

in renderer settings override lightprobe anchor on every mesh to same bone like chest

so all meshes sample not their middle point but some specific transform for lighting

[pure cedar]

This is the weight painting so far, obviously havent finished it but the parts that should be correct just isnt working

[somber sequoia]

I'd check what your rotation pivot point is, and make sure the hierarchy of the bones is correct. I can't see either in that

[pure cedar]

The origin point? Is at the feet

[desert elk]

pivot point

not origin

[pure cedar]

This is the hierarchy

[pure cedar]

Aaand where do i change that

[somber sequoia]

top middle of blender in edit mode or similar

SO useful to change, kinda suprised you haven't yet

[pure cedar]

Median point

Ah i knew about it just didnt connect in my head

[somber sequoia]

ok that's reasonable for when in pose mode

[pure cedar]

But do you see anything in the hierarchy that looks off?

[somber sequoia]

nope

[pure cedar]

The arms and legs move fine but its just the spine that fucks it all upo

like if i rotate the mid spine 90o the body rotates 180o in some weird way

It kinda doubles every transform

[somber sequoia]

bone rolls are all 0? origins of all parts are the origin and all transforms applied?

[pure cedar]

i think so

Still happens

Is something seriously wrong here or am i just stupid

[somber sequoia]

you think so?

[pure cedar]

In the video you saw me apply all transforms and reset pose transforms

[somber sequoia]

oh I didn't actually watch, I'm on my laptop and the resolution is such that I can't really make out any detail in your videos

oh

[pure cedar]

Ohh okay my bad ill raise it

[somber sequoia]

but no, that's not what I asked about

not resetting bone transforms

in object mode, click on the mesh parts, and ctrl+a, apply all transforms.

do for all parts

[pure cedar]

But its all 1 part

[somber sequoia]

okay

[pure cedar]

When they are separated it works

But once i merged, it broke

[somber sequoia]

if you merged parts but didn't apply all transforms first, that can cause issues

[pure cedar]

Okay ill try that

I did it, and exact same thing :/

[somber sequoia]

I really don't know what's going on there

[pure cedar]

Could i hand you the blend file and you take a look at it?

[somber sequoia]

I don't normally for free but I've got me curious. Sure.

[pure cedar]

Thank you

Ill send in dms

[civic cliff]

just have a quick question that im not able to fix rn but i figured id ask ahead of time, why is it that whenever i put my avis on quest, it removes all of my physbones? is it just that i have too many so it just removes all of them?

[round comet]

Yep!

That is the exact reason

[civic cliff]

shocked that i just guessed that

[round comet]

You should get vrcquesttools. I don’t use any other feature aside for their physbone remover

But it lists all physbones, contacts and colliders and you can pick and choose what to keep and delete

If its over the limit when you upload, quest doesn’t warn you and just uploads anyway

Which is frustrating but, is what it is

[civic cliff]

alright well ill write this down and do this when im home then probably

thx

[round comet]

Ofc! Best of luck :)

[somber sequoia]

@pure cedar going to reply here in case others want to learn or contribute.
I'm kinda curious how you did this now - a big part of the problem is the copy constraints on each bone, you don't want those

I mostly fixed it - deleted all of those, deleted the armature modifier, dragged the mesh to not be a child of the armature, dragged it back there, then re-added an armature modifier and mostly it works

[pure cedar]

Ohhhh

I didnt even realize i had that

[somber sequoia]

I don't like the shoulders though, they'll move weird as-is, you probably want to make some sort of pivot here because human-you will cause the shoulders to move a little

but that's more of a design thing

[pure cedar]

Is there a way to remove contstraints from all the bones at once?

[somber sequoia]

I didn't check, just went through them all

rigging the head is going to be fun too 🙂

and I'd be really tempted to do some crazy blendshape driver to make the arm pistons actually work

[pure cedar]

Wait, i removed the contstraints and its still broken, exactly what did you do?

Can you send the file back?

[somber sequoia]

I said exactly what I did

but yes, I can

[pure cedar]

No need, I fixed it!! Thank you so much!!!

[desert sonnet]

what do i do about this

[desert elk]

about what exactly?

[desert sonnet]

the windows stand alone support isnt here

[somber sequoia]

oh good!

I was just going to say, I've got Blender 4.4.3 here, it can be picky about going backwards

[pure cedar]

Do you have any advice as to how to make the mesh deform better and more human-like

[somber sequoia]

it's a robot, it shouldn't really deform, right?

[desert elk]

can you not download it

?

[pure cedar]

Yeah but you said something about the shoulders

[desert sonnet]

no

[somber sequoia]

yeah if you rotate those, it doesn't move very well because they aren't really designed with shoulders in mind

[surreal salmon]

kazin is one of the best people in the community

[somber sequoia]

nah, I'm just a jerk that's occasionally helpful to people who seem to actually want to learn

[desert elk]

reall

[surreal salmon]

whats the difference

[somber sequoia]

I'm not gonna hold your hand, I'm going to tell you to read the docs 🙂

[desert elk]

what happens when you press Open Download Page? And did you try reinstalling unity?

[surreal salmon]

fair

[desert sonnet]

404 and yes i did

[desert elk]

are you on the correct version?

of unity

[desert sonnet]

yes

[desert elk]

hm

i don't see why reinstalling wouldn't work

i don't have other ideas

[desert sonnet]

is it the unity or compainion app causing issues

bc i installed unity though the compainion app

[desert elk]

consider uninstalling it and installing it through the unity hub

[desert sonnet]

ok

idk how to delete it

idk what im doing

can u talk me through it

[desert elk]

how did you reinstall it if you don't know how to uninstall it?

[desert sonnet]

im confused

[desert elk]

"And did you try reinstalling unity?"
"yes i did"

[desert sonnet]

oh

i missread that then

[desert elk]

and know you're saying you don't know how to delete unity

[desert sonnet]

i didnt

[desert elk]

ye

uninstall it and install it again

[desert sonnet]

how

[desert elk]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=How+to+uninstall+an+app+from+my+pc%3F

like this

:)

[desert sonnet]

rudee

[desert elk]

well, i'm not gonna tell you everything

[desert sonnet]

then stay quite

if i ask for help no reason to be rude about it

[desert elk]

XD

i don't even know what you're on

[desert sonnet]

shut

[desert elk]

do you want me to tell you how to uninstall apps on every single operatins system that exists? XD

cause i can

XDDD

but it would be kinda pointless

[solar tapir]

Hey does anyone know how to make a Blender model into a Vrchat Model?

[desert elk]

you will need to rig it if it's not rigged already (or modify the rig if it's not correct for vrchat) check #avatar-rigging pinned messages

and you'll need the correct unity version + vcc/alcom

[desert sonnet]

ok i reinstalle the hub its launching now

[desert elk]

and an official vrc account + rank new user or higher if you want to upload

avatars

[desert sonnet]

still nothing i dont know what to do

[desert elk]

did you reinstall the hub only or the editor as well?

[somber sequoia]

Export as FBX, set "Apply Scalings" to "FBX All" and uncheck "use leaf bones" under Armature. Then follow one of the many basic avatar setup tutorials

[desert sonnet]

only the hub

[desert elk]

you need to reinstall the editor

cause that's what's not working

[desert sonnet]

where do i find the editor ik im asking dumb questions and im sorry im new to this

[unkempt marsh]

Does anyone know what causes this issue? When my avatar is in the air, it's not visible unless you're looking at where it would be on the ground, it's visible for other players too. My only theory is it's something to do with the bounds but as seen in the video another avatar with the same size doesn't have it

[desert sonnet]

you mean the unity version?

[desert elk]

yes

[dusk pulsar]

How should I deal with Modular Avatar (MA)?

I made toggles for underwear and hoodie. Hoodie shrinks body parts, turns it on and off. How do I make a condition where hoodie turns off, but underwear enables instead and if I want to I can disable underwear? I can do it through animator but wondering on how to do it with MA instead.

[desert sonnet]

its not letting me remove it from the hub

[desert elk]

must've not installed properly

so remove it from your computer

[desert sonnet]

its hard to explain but if u can screenshare it to me i can explaion

[unkempt marsh]

I can, I'm not able to talk though

[desert sonnet]

ok meet me in a vc

your u can just call me on here

[desert elk]

navigate to that location and delete it from your computer
delete the old unity too if you don't need it

[unkempt marsh]

I don't see a VC in here so I'll just call

[limpid cargo]

is this a general helpful setting something should be set for every single model, even if seems like it not have an issue at first?

[somber sequoia]

I always set it, yeah

[pure cedar]

Got everything imported but get this error

[solar tapir]

I mean I dont really know what's on the files or what it looks like due to my pc being broken at the current moment however I did get the pure Rar files from the avatar creator

[somber sequoia]

uh.... ok?

[solar tapir]

So I didn't know that if it mattered if it was a .rar file or a .zip file

[limpid cargo]

i will correct them incorrect to be aware, and that the SDK does warn you when you have too many physbones over the amount. it will say “physbone component… removed at runtime” somewhere there in your warning/errors. so please be wary of it 😊 but it does tell you, along with every other exceeding warning!

[somber sequoia]

those are archive files, one assumes that you would open that up and extract the actual data files from them?

[solar tapir]

Yes

So basically just what my overall understanding is that 1. Check it. 2. See if its rigged and if not just rig it. 3. Just test it out after and pray

That's basically what imma try I mean... its worked in the past for me so why not? XD

[unkempt marsh]

issue was not resolved in the VC

[desert sonnet]

i deleted it but its still stuck in the hub

[silk turtle]

So I want to make an asset in my avatar that plays a Kabong sound when it comes into contact with someone's head. I've followed a guide, but I can't get the sound to play when I bring the contacts together. Could there be something I'm missing? Could there be something else in the avatar disrupting this?

[desert elk]

install it again, for example herehttps://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22

[limpid cargo]

he’s very cool, i want to be his friend

[timber wharf]

@limpid cargo ye, not much reason have those different for avatars, vrcf i believe sugessts you to autofix it

[limpid cargo]

i never know what it means…

but thank you very much 🙇🏻‍♀️

[full compass]

anybody have this weird issue with Animator Play Audio where none of the settings actually work except for Random?

Random Unique, etc all just clear out the audio clip property in the sound and dont play anything when using av3 emulator

in-game they basically dont work at all regardless of my setting, so idk whats up with that

if i play audio the old-fashioned way it works fine but i have to make several audio sources just to randomize something

[pure cedar]

Why is it completely black when viewed ingame? It looks good in the editor and in the preview

[late heath]

does anybody know how much of a problem this will cause if i keep it as is? everything is parented as it should be (i think) but i think the reason why this error is showing up is due to the fact that the charm of the bracelet has a bone inside of it that i'll be making into a physbone

[half chasm]

so i imported my fbx into unity again and its a wee bit messed up any idea how to fix it?

[desert elk]

how is it messed up? always assume people don't know what your avatar is supposed to look like

[somber sequoia]

also what exactly did you do that caused the messed up thing

[white sundial]

say I'm sculpting some new faces for my avi

between the left and right, which do yall think it's better?

[somber sequoia]

not sure I'd use a matcap for hair, probably I'd be looking at the anisotropics section instead.
Also probably a better question for the Poiyomi discord

[barren slate]

Can anyone remember which layer afk goes on?

Action, right?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes

[barren slate]

Does anyone know why this action AFK pose will not work? (gif)

[limpid cargo]

ensure that the wrist is parented to the lower arm.
the bracelet bone can be also parented to the lower arm, but the error is telling that you have parenting issues caused by:
A. wrist is not parented to lower arm or
B. lower arm is not parented to upper arm

[late heath]

its parented no differently than my other rigs, just an extra bone for the bracelet
it works fine on controller but it follows the physbone when not connected to anything/on desktop which i am fine with

[heavy zephyr]

The action layer has it's weight set to 0 by default. If you want to use it, have a state on your FX layer turn it's weight to 1 then back to 0 when you're done using it.

Using one of those.

[shrewd spruce]

Hi, I'm have trouble with making specific objects on my avatar invisible when in first person view, the scarf on my character makes it impossible to look down properly and I've been fiddling with the headchop thing for awhile but nothings worked, does anyone know how I could make it disappear in first person?

It's connected to the chest bone instead of the head bone, but I don't want my entire chest to be invisible in first person.

[barren slate]

So I have to add a whole new FX layer changing the action layer weight to 1 with the AFK detection on the FX layer?

Sounds abit backwards, idk why they changed that :/

[heavy zephyr]

You could do the AFK detection, tracking control and layer weight control on FX if you wanted. But at the very least, you gotta do the check for AFK and change the weight yes.

[heavy zephyr]

It's always been like that for avatar 3.0 iirc

[heavy zephyr]

Show me the settings you used for the headchop component please ^^

[barren slate]

I swear it wasn't like that when I last did an avatar :/ maybe that avatar already had an FX AFK Action Layer Controler ig

I tried it and it worked

[shrewd spruce]

I tried setting it to the object of the scarf instead of a bone, but nothing I've tried has really worked (The component is also in the object of the scarf mesh since it's separate)

[heavy zephyr]

Does your scarf have it's own separate bone?

[shrewd spruce]

No it's weighted to the upper arms and chest

[winged ivy]

so, im havin an issue with a sword asset rn, i bought robos katana and followed his steps but the sword doesnt work properly

[heavy zephyr]

Then that's your issue, headchop can only affect a bone, not any transforms. You would need to give it it's own bone.

Alternatively, use the poiyomi feature to only show the object in mirrors and combine it with the built-in IsLocal parameter so that it only applies to you.

[shrewd spruce]

I'll have to go the bone route then, since I have everything all in a single material 💀

Thank you for the help!

[heavy zephyr]

My pleasure ^^

[high frigate]

how do i import textures (they png)

wait

they alr are there?

why cant i see them then

[uneven whale]

is it possible to make eyebrows and eyelashes visible through hair on a quest avatar? I know that transparency is not supported, but maybe there is something?

[somber sequoia]

are you in the wrong shading mode? upper right of the 3D view, little bubbles

[high frigate]

yeah u right i found them

now he needs bones

[young bear]

why does my avi's neck snap when i jump

[gray zinc]

I added subdivision surface

why left arm pose position wrong

It should be this

[ornate stump]

Try clear transform for all bone in pose mode.

[ornate stump]

Then you have to make sure all bones are symetric in edit mode.

[young bear]

@ornate stump any ideas on what my be causing my issue?

[gray zinc]

I get it

[ornate stump]

No idea.

[gray zinc]

Renfrew, which bones part are need weight painting for roblox model

[ornate stump]

I can't answer that. I don't do roblox.

[gray zinc]

Oh ok

[ornate stump]

Try something that seems make sense to you.

[gray zinc]

Alr

[high frigate]

yeah i have no idea what im doing

[formal sparrow]

does anyone know why i cant upload, keeps giving me this error no matter what i do.

[somber sequoia]

possibly network issues, see in #announcements

[formal sparrow]

so its not anything i can fix right

[prisma frigate]

Nope

Just gotta wait it out

[formal sparrow]

rahhh alrighttt

[prisma frigate]

Felt... I was on vr getting comfort and giving comfort to my friend- I'm still upset man. Anyway.. Hope they fix this issue soon-

[gaunt arrow]

its suppose to be on shon on both sides but i dunno why the front is invisible

not sure how to fix it

[wraith blaze]

are you able to delete vrc avatars i accidentally got rid of my blueprint ID and now it have 2 it’s a little annoying

i found it!!

[ornate stump]

In your material, change culling mode from back to off.

[spark walrus]

Anyone know how i could fix this?

[gray zinc]

Are you connecting to the wrong bones?

[timber wharf]

yes, it says that head bone is not an immediate child of neck bone, like theres smth inbetween

[spark walrus]

i have no idea

what would i even be missing??

is there a way ffor me to be able to make it a child?

[somber sequoia]

or the spine hierarchy is incorrect

[somber sequoia]

sure, re-parent it in Blender

[timber wharf]

if head bone is child of some other bone, but neck is made/weightpainted properly you can just use that other bone

[full harbor]

Does anyone have an idea on why this happens with the outlines? it happened after i reimported an avatar after headswapping it in blender

thanks!

[small valve]

How can I make a fake-Player in my Unity scene, where i can test my VRC receivers on it to see if my bool parameter even gets triggered by it?

[thorn tendon]

can anyone help me make a avatar for my charather?

[desert elk]

you'll get scammers here, go to VRC Traders #1204490664637890580

[timid kite]

when i move with my quest version (toon lit shader) eyebrows sometimes get black outlines. why? i tried other shaders and its still the same

tis is the eyebrow part of the texture

[desert elk]

transparency issues? you could extend the texture a bit more, so it's a bit bigger than the UV map

[timid kite]

i dont know how to work with textures or uv map. so if i can at least get an answer that this is a shader/vrc issue or texture issue id be happy

[desert elk]

it could be

take the eyebrow texture to a photo editor and make it a bit bit bigger, a pixel or teo

[timid kite]

ok

<3

[desert elk]

it could fix it

[ornate stump]

Do you have a question?

[ornate stump]

What? I don't understand what you're trying to convey.

[gray zinc]

in edit mode i was symetric, but still not fix in pose mode

[ornate stump]

You have to clear transform for all bones.

[gray zinc]

i fixed

[ornate stump]

Google should yield has the first result, didn't it?

The one from github.

[next citrus]

hey

I'm having trouble with the blueprint_id

my avatar didn't have it since it was a free base but I'm getting this error

[desert elk]

if you mean the error that's usually a side effect of a different error

[next citrus]

this is my first time doing this

[desert elk]

it's too blurry, look at the top 2-3 errors

[next citrus]

and retexturing an avatar

better?

[desert elk]

you didn't install something that your avatar needs

[next citrus]

?

[desert elk]

your avatar probably came with instructions or a list of things needed

missing script = you didn't install all of the things

vrcfury or a shader are two of the most often missed things

[next citrus]

https://www.vrcarena.com/assets/1271c-irix-fluffydog-avatar-wip-vrchat-and-neos it was this one

[next citrus]

where can I download them?

[desert elk]

online?

and try getting it from the Gumroad instead

the model I mean

[next citrus]

I did?

[desert elk]

you didn't send the link to the gumroad so I assumed you didn't

I never used that website you sent, idk how it works

I'm just throwing ideas

[next citrus]

https://irix.gumroad.com/l/bikcyg?&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vrcarena.com

[desert elk]

i think I know what happened

it's an old avatar

dynamic bones aren't used for avatars anymore

that one may still try to use them causing issues

it's my theory

[balmy barn]

change the dynamic bones to phys or convert and hope it doesnt do wierd things - the stub https://github.com/VRLabs/Dynamic-Bones-Stub

[crystal whale]

I need help with modular avatar. I'm trying to fit an outfit to my avatar using modular avatar, but i needed to bring it into blender to delete some vertices. The bone structure is all good, but whenever i enter play test mode, the shirt completely disappears. The unedited shirt shows up in playtest mode, just not the edited one.

[dry root]

guys I'm new to this stuff so I just need some help, how do I put my avatar into vrc from vroid studio?

[spark walrus]

anyone know how i could fix this?

I was doing a headswap now something is wrong and i have no idea what

[desert elk]

Like this (there's a shorter version of the tutorial on the channel too)
https://youtu.be/lxL5TxNc6MA?si=MFoHsj-bMnyrWV_K

read the pinned comment first though

[desert elk]

well, your head should be properly parented. Not separate from the hips

[dry root]

thx :))

[spark walrus]

So for my head would i select my new head mesh and use that?

[desert elk]

what mesh?

the problem is the bones

[spark walrus]

i dont understand this

incredibly confusing

[desert elk]

see how you have Head separate from Hips

it shouldn't be like that

[spark walrus]

how should it be then?

[desert elk]

vrc rigs need a specific order

look, it goes Hips > Spine > Chest > Upper Chest (optional) > Neck > Head

you should have the same order

[spark walrus]

So would head go here?

[desert elk]

yes

it needs to be a child of the neck bone

[spark walrus]

omg that fixed it thank you youre an angel

[desert elk]

heh

[spark walrus]

unity is the most confusing software i think ive ever used

[desert elk]

Try Blender

xD

[spark walrus]

I was in it for a little

now i have annother issue

wtf!

now its givinng me hand errors even though i dont have any? qwq

[desert elk]

first try enforcing tpose

[spark walrus]

okay that fixed the hands

but every time i go in to mess with the config it moves my head back out of my neck and makes it seperate from the hip again

[desert elk]

I'm guessing you'll need to parent the bones properly in Blender instead of doing experiments in Unity, because that's not recommended (I'm assuming that's what you did)

[spark walrus]

every time i go to open it

[desert elk]

yeah

Blender

[spark walrus]

sigh

how tf do i even do that

[desert elk]

import the fbx > join the armatures (ctrl J) > ensure that the head is parented properly in the green bone menu

[spark walrus]

here?

[desert elk]

yeah, in relations

you need to be in edit mode

and click the head bone

[spark walrus]

what from here?

would i parent it to the spine? @desert elk

[frigid glade]

It’s much easier to just click on the bones in edit mode and just parent them that way by selecting the bones you need to work with

I never really touch the side menu because it confuses me too much 🥲

[spark walrus]

im not really sure what i even need to be parenting here

thats the thing

[frigid glade]

Wasn’t it parenting neck to head??

[spark walrus]

I think so?

[spark walrus]

here

i was moving it

[frigid glade]

Cuz you don’t really wanna have multiple armatures. It’s best to have them all as one

Yeah so you need to parent the neck to the head

[spark walrus]

so for my head i want my neck as the parent?

Okay

after i select that do i do anything else?

Or do i just re-export and replace the current fbx i had

[frigid glade]

After you’ve parented them just like check in pose mode that everything works and bends the way it should

[small valve]

How can I make a 3d sphere that fakes the collider of another player, so that I can test my vrc receivers on it in the unity scene?

[spark walrus]

it wonnt let me select the head to move it now??

[frigid glade]

Wdym?? Are you in pose mode??

[spark walrus]

nvm now it did

my head moves around fine still so is it good to export?

[frigid glade]

I think so!!! Just be careful if you’re exporting over your previous model in unity because it could break the model you already have in the scene

[spark walrus]

im keeping the original

[desert elk]

i forgot you can do that tbh

i find menus easier

[frigid glade]

Oki doki, it could be better to make a separate fbx

[desert elk]

but that's also an option

[spark walrus]

Also

Would i need to change any of this?

[desert elk]

fbx all instead of all local

and disable leaf bones under armature

[spark walrus]

this all good now?

before in unity for the original fbx it was saying the scale was 1m to 1m and the new one i had was like 1cm to 0.001m or something

would this make it 1 to 1 and fix it?

[desert elk]

yea

[spark walrus]

yay okay

so good to export now yes?

[desert elk]

should be

[spark walrus]

alright ill try it with this one and see how it goes

@desert elk everything seemed to work fine but how do i get all the textures from my existing avatar onto my edited fbx?

[desert elk]

add them to materials and drag the material onto your avatar

[spark walrus]

wait huh

[desert elk]

#avatar-help message

kinda like this

different shader will look different!

[spark walrus]

so i have to do that for every single material?

[desert elk]

yes

[spark walrus]

theres no way theres nnot an easier way to do that

[spark walrus]

@desert elk ive run into an issue where i cant put more than 1 shader on an object

[desert elk]

wdym

?

[spark walrus]

well materials

it wont let me put more than just this one

it wont let me add materials

[desert elk]

try dragging directly on the avatar

and maybe you only have one material on that mesh?

[spark walrus]

how do i have it so i have more than one?

cause the existing head has 6

[desert elk]

I don't know

it's too late for me

maybe someone else knows

[spark walrus]

this shit is so complicated for genuinely no reason

unity fuckin sucks

[somber sequoia]

why are you trying to add a material slot?

[spark walrus]

i figured it out for the materials

but now i have some like black bar over my face and my eyes look weird

[somber sequoia]

is that something that should be transparent, but isn't because you're using quest shaders?

[somber meadow]

definitely blendshape expressions that use alpha transparency effects

[spark walrus]

oh holdon

[spark walrus]

how do i make it so its gone?

[somber meadow]

is that appearing outside of play mode?

[spark walrus]

let me load up play mode holdon

[somber meadow]

look at the head mesh for any active blendshapes or any blendshapes that have names that could match this

[spark walrus]

theres an expressions and overlay

[somber meadow]

is this an avatar for quest?

[spark walrus]

No

[somber sequoia]

hmm, maybe the base color texture files don't have "alpha is transparency" set?

[somber meadow]

then if that's the case I'd experiment with the materials like expressions, templash, and overlay. Unlock those materials, and try setting the render preset to transparent (even if it's already selected)

[crystal whale]

How do i activate physbones? like the outfit moves fine in playtest mode but when uploaded, none of the physbones work...

[spark walrus]

its all on transparent already

[somber meadow]

even if they're already on transparent still attempt it, Poiyomi updates can change render presets

[somber meadow]

What platform are you testing it on? Quest (Android) limits max physbone components to 8 and deletes every component if you exceed it

[crystal whale]

Android. But i need to figure out how to access them in the first place.

So i can see which bones need deleting and which i can keep

[somber meadow]

VRCQuestTools helps a lot with that process

[gray zinc]

idk why my head move also

[spark walrus]

I just checked my fbx in blender and its there too

wtf is this lol

[somber meadow]

most likely an effect that uses transparency, go into mesh edit mode and click a face of it to see what material it's on

[spark walrus]

where would it tell me?

[somber meadow]

go into face mode by pressing 3, open the materials tab on the bottom right (you'll need to scroll down), and select a face apart of the mesh

[spark walrus]

Says its expressionns

Mind you this is a headswap, should i maybe get the expressions texture from the other head and put it on this one ?

[solemn wyvern]

hey I was trying to fix the hands of my avatar in unity and I keep getting this error

[somber sequoia]

are those the only two errors?

[solemn wyvern]

yeah

[solemn wyvern]

oh wait my fault I just checked

[somber sequoia]

you want to look at the first 2-3, at the top.

so if that top one isn't the actual first one, go scroll up

[solemn wyvern]

that was the first one I'm p sure

the one at the top

[true flower]

OK, dumb question: Occasionally I'll buy an avatar from Gumroad or Booth and there will be multiple models in the scene, usually labelled along the lines of Full Version, PC Good version, Quest Version, Quest Super-Basic-As-Bare-Bones-As-We-Can-Make-This-And-Still-Be-Functional version, etc., all lined up in a row, neat and tidy. I've been hiding all the models except the one I want to upload, and everything works fine, but it's occurred to me to wonder: am I supposed to upload the whole scene and (hopefully) have all the different versions load into their correct places? Or at least, is this part of an easier way to upload a PC and a Quest avatar rather than having to create a whole new VRCC Project for each and every one?

[uneven whale]

I managed to achieve partial transparency of materials on the quest avatar. I don't know if it works on the quest platform, but on a mobile phone there are no problems

[somber sequoia]

only one avatar will be uploaded (see the dropdown at the top of the build console window), so it doesn't really matter.

[somber sequoia]

re: quest/PC, you can have them in the same scene, or not, that's just a question of how you prefer to work. no need for multiple projects, especially if they share assets, there's little reason to duplicate stuff

if you have multiple versions in the same scene you can use the new SDK feature to upload them at the same time too