avatar-general

[young wind]

Mine doesn’t lag either

[coarse minnow]

So until the "R.I.P quest content" update releases, we should all just keep it as is

I have mad amounts of respect to the people still trying to make their cool avatars queat compatible past that point

[young wind]

Ok. This update might be a good thing too, to prevent crashers! Yay!

[coarse minnow]

Trust me, I hate quest crashers just as much as any quest user

[young wind]

Yeah

[coarse minnow]

I'm happy I don't get crashed, but pc users with crashers are all egocentric dicks

Client crashers are even more pathetic.

[young wind]

I don’t get crashed as often either because of my handy safety settings. It’s good vrchat is making it easier

[coarse minnow]

I usually get invited to lobbies with pc users only to see all quest users unresponsive and standing still

like jesus christ just block them, don't be a bitch dammit

[young wind]

Yeah plus they should know crashers can damage the CPU

[coarse minnow]

Oh they know

they take full excitement and fun from that facf

fact*

But be happy

you don't have to hear their shitty "A MEMBER FROM X HAS JOINED YOUR LOBBY!" Every time they enable the avatr

avatar*

[young wind]

I will once they disable bad avatars.

[coarse minnow]

I am jealous of quest users because they don't have to deal with world-wide avatar audio

[young wind]

Yeah. I think you can disable it on pc too

[neon finch]

Yup

[coarse minnow]

Yes, but it would coincidentally disable the actual decent ones too

[neon finch]

Yup

[young wind]

It can be worth it sometimes

[neon finch]

…Mostly

[coarse minnow]

My avatar (modified cherubbot mp01) has audio, but it has limits

[young wind]

Ok

[coarse minnow]

But, just a question, how long does a quest live, when playing vchat

compared to something like Beat saber

Battery life, that is.

[young wind]

Mine is about 3 hours. It depends on the worlds that you join and the avatars that you see though.

[coarse minnow]

Thanks for the info

[young wind]

No problem

[sleek harbor]

why can I still not upload characters from unity

[vale fulcrum]

Is there someone that can help me with making an avatar

Of finding one (not likely gonna find it tho)

[meager girder]

What are Very Poor and Poor avatars?

i always just enable the avatar anyway

prob whats making me get like 10 fps

[sick fjord]

Very poor and poor avatars are avatars that are not well optimised, they can be poor for a lot of different reasons like high textures or a lot of bones and outfits.

[neon finch]

Only reason some of mine are very poor on quest is because of the poly count. Every other aspect is fine

(Thank you, CATS)

[brave grail]

Hello, I'm interested in working with some of the osc features in the open beta going on, but have never worked on an avatar before. Does anyone know if there is a place I can get a super simple avatar to just test features on?

[neon finch]

Deviantart. Convert from either pmx or xps. Make sure you have permission first, though

[hasty hemlock]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Avatar-Models

here's a list of models that would actually have permission to use in vrchat that are free to download @brave grail

[brave grail]

looking through the list now. thanks!

[hasty hemlock]

and the deviantART suggestion would likely run into models that actually don't have vrchat permissions

[brave grail]

good to know. yeah just looking for something to quickly throw into unity to test OSC on

[remote valley]

does anyone know how I can make a dynamic bone jiggle, but only on one axis?

[ember pond]

ive seen alot of people with like very huge troll face stick arm like character

s

i cant clone them

does anyone know how to get those and or else how to make them

[neon finch]

Can’t say I’d wanna know. Those are both harrowing and annoying…the worst combo outside of(redacted)

[ember pond]

That was the idea

• it's fun lmao

[meager girder]

so should i keep them disabled or...

[sick fjord]

you can disable things about the avatar like custom animations and particles in the settings

but if you are still lagging then yes

only show the avatars of people you are talking to or like

no point having someone using a laggy ass avatar and you arent even talking to them

[meager girder]

okay ty!

[high spear]

Is there a way to implement eye tracking for quest 2

[hasty hemlock]

not right at the moment but come back in about a month and maybe as somebody as working on DIY eye trackers

[high spear]

Haha I’m gonna waiting on all of that because my rig is read for face tracking

[devout pulsar]

Question: What's the current triangle limit for a avatar for it to be quest compatible?

[neon finch]

20k max, 7500 or under to hit excellent rating(provided everything else is optimized)

[karmic totem]

technically no limit, but if you want your avatar to show for anyone without them having to manually show yours, 20k like Metrutopia said

[burnt ember]

Giving Ben for cuh

[inland acorn]

Anyone know how to make a actual functional gun for your avatar that you can reload and Fire and such

[toxic forge]

yike

imagine playing VR only 3 hours at a time. bruh. (yes i know you can keep it plugged in but god dayum)

[inner terrace]

I can't help buti can send a link to to a serie of videos...

[wide raptor]

Anyone make avatars? like anime style

(if so dm me i want to have a cool epic friend)

[torpid mortar]

everyone wants a friend who can make them free avatars

i edit avatars but i wouldnt do it for free... that said i dont offer my services to anyone either

[frigid tusk]

help

[vapid bobcat]

do anybody knows where i can get dynamic bones?

[west nest]

in unity store.

[vapid bobcat]

ok ty

[weak jetty]

Does the translator in CATS plugin say your temporarily banned for anyone else?

[sinful junco]

With the new update i know Physbones are coming but is there anything to replace cloth? or are people still going to use the unity cloth module.

[hasty hemlock]

currently no plans for a cloth replacement

[silver adder]

It's using Google Translate, Google Translate has a daily limit on how many times you are allowed to use it.

[sinful junco]

Will the physbone update make all avatars made before 3.0 no longer useable or will it convert their dynamic bones to physbones?

[hasty hemlock]

all the dynamic bones will get Auto converted to physbones and everybody will also get collider's in their heads and hands for playing with physics bones

[topaz meteor]

talking tom avatar

[sinful junco]

lol

Also thanks Rain

[topaz meteor]

i need that avatar i cant find it anywhere

[sinful junco]

Ok well this isnt the place bud

[hasty hemlock]

wouldn't surprise me if that's one of the delays getting the dynamic bones conversion to work correctly

[topaz meteor]

Ok bud

[sinful junco]

Indeed, would hate to corrupt every old 2.0 known

[hasty hemlock]

yes you'll be able to tweak the colliders that's just the freebies all avatars get so everyone doesn't have to update their avatars to be able to touch the physics bones

and not have to deal with oh no the public Avatar I'm wearing the maker hasn't been online in 6 months so they can't update the avatar

[sinful junco]

I Do wonder how adding all of those colliders will balance out the increase in performance from physbones

[hasty hemlock]

well at minimum physics Bones is like 20 times faster

and also they can probably make the colliders a little more clever than Dynamic bones

[devout pulsar]

Question: What version of unity do I need to upload an avatar as of today?

[hasty hemlock]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version

[devout pulsar]

got it

is there a way to check if the Android SDK modules are enabled in a version of unity?

[neon finch]

i truly need help making an avatar i cant do it and im really trying to understand this but i just simply dont

pls someone help me

[naive wasp]

how to fix texters mipmapped streaming mip map

[neon finch]

Is it not offering an auto fix option?

[woven brook]

guys can someone help me with making a Avatar DM me please.

[young epoch]

has vrchat confirmed auto-conversion explicitly? I assumed it would have to be re-compiled per avatar

[hasty hemlock]

yes "Automatic Dynamic Bone Conversion: we want to make using PhysBones as easy as possible — and so the goal is that all avatars uploaded to VRChat using DynamicBones will be switched to PhysBones." https://medium.com/vrchat/avatar-dynamics-dev-update-9582d674ab1d

[young epoch]

huh. thanks

[hasty hemlock]

they can't kill Dynamic bones if people are still running around with them

[opal pollen]

Can someone dm me the link to the searching mod?

[burnt halo]

If an avatar creator says that they updated the files for their product, should I re-download it? I don't know how that works :o

[mighty moat]

Want to ask guys, How many hours do we need before we can upload any custom characters into VRchat?

[alpine schooner]

8-12hrs in public instances (with people) seems to be the average to get New User so you can upload.

[toxic forge]

It does that sometimes. It's a bug

[toxic forge]

X to doubt

[toxic forge]

Good. If that shit don't look EXACTLY the way it used too there will be riots

[toxic forge]

Yes. It doesn't magically go into your computer

[burnt halo]

I actually found the new files so now I’m good c:

[toxic forge]

My theory is they will attempt this, but it won't look right or will break things and the community will riot and vrchat will revert it

So only new Avis have them

Or vrchat is just like lol we don't care and then they lose more creators again

Just my theory anyway. Hoping for a miracle they look and work right

[coarse minnow]

"Look and work right" and "Vrchat" doesn't really fit in the same sentence or paragraph

[quick totem]

I really don't care if the new bones break on half the Avatars, I still much prefer that over shitty performance thank you

[coarse minnow]

They have a point

[neon finch]

Does anyone know how to make custom intro music for an avatar? For ex: it says your name followed by a song

[loud cape]

you should avoid doing that actually

one of the most annoying things you could put on your avatar

right besides screenspace shaders

[neon finch]

I like the idea of it so imma do it lol

[loud cape]

that's a terrible idea

only do it if you want to be blocked and hidden by people

[coarse minnow]

Please use the audio spatializer

don't you make it worldwide audio

There is nothing more frustrating than one of those damned
"A user from xyz has joined your lobby!"

[neon finch]

How do I make it tho. I rllyyyy wanna learn

[coarse minnow]

Audio source

[loud cape]

learn something more useful

[neon finch]

Free ?

[coarse minnow]

I have one planned for mine too

Limit of 3 units

so only people near the spawn area hear the small "hi"

[neon finch]

‘The FuzzyPenguinfish27 just…’

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that

[coarse minnow]

but it's an audio source, set with a small limit, spread 0. logarythmic or linear decrease in volume with a volume of .75

[neon finch]

Ok

[coarse minnow]

set in the "head" of the armature so that the audio wouldn't randomly change positions with my hands

[neon finch]

Could u possibly dm the link of the program

So I don't click on a totally different program

[coarse minnow]

It's just unity

[neon finch]

Ooo

[coarse minnow]

Unity audiosource component added to an "empty" object inside the "head" of your armature

I don't have my pc here so I can't send you a preview

[neon finch]

But like im saying how do I make it custom ( from scratch) or can I literally create it in unity

[coarse minnow]

Wait are you talking about playing the sound

or the sound itself?

[neon finch]

No

Making it

[coarse minnow]

because that is easily done in audacity

[neon finch]

Ok ok ty

[coarse minnow]

https://www.audacityteam.org/

in case you had to get a link

[neon finch]

Ty

What should I use for the voice that says my name? Or should I record myself saying it in a voicechanger

Or is there a tts audio thingie

[coarse minnow]

I'd say that's up to you

[neon finch]

Ok

[coarse minnow]

I have some decent voice changers I can use but I don't have the files with me here

also be respectful and don't make it overly long or loud

[neon finch]

I wont make it loud

[coarse minnow]

good

[quick totem]

The amount of people that immediately got hostile for you asking a simple question

[loud cape]

for perfectly valid reasons

[quick totem]

No. If they wanna put an intro on their Avatar they're gonna find out how to do it eventually. If you want it to be less annoying then tell them how to make it less annoying. Because they might end up making a global spawn sound instead of a small one because they don't know any better.

[swift pagoda]

guys dumb question, when in vr do triggering expression with keyboard using shift+f1 shift+f2 shift+f3 still work in vrchat or does not?

[loud cape]

there are very few ways to make an "intro" not be annoying. 99% of the time I see them, it's an instant avatar-hide. it's annoying, doesn't add anything to the quality of the avatar, and interrupts ongoing conversations

[quick totem]

Telling them off doesn't help anyone, you're just wasting time and energy you could be using to help them make it a better experience for everyone.

Your personal bias shouldn't be a factor when helping someone out with their problem. Taste is subjective.

Like I said, they will put it on their Avi with or without your help.

[quick totem]

It works the same as using controllers I'm VR

[loud cape]

I'm sorry but I won't help with adding something that is generally agreed upon to be an annoyance to their avatar. I could perhaps have been a bit less up front about my distaste for avatar intros, and that's on me.

[worn burrow]

so then just dont say anything at all

easy

[quick totem]

Then don't say anything next time, thank you.

[swift pagoda]

ty

[loud cape]

I'd rather them know that people will hide their avatars beforehand, rather than them finding out the hard way once they do add it and immediately get hidden in game.

[quick totem]

Who says you can't tell them that but also teach them how to do it? They're the one having to deal with the consequences, not you.

Telling someone off like that is just unproductive and discouraging to people that are new to Avatar creating.

I will eat soup now

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

[toxic forge]

Do you make things?

Like complex things

Complex dynamic bone settings

[quick totem]

It will definitely break more complex setups

[toxic forge]

Cuz god why did I put 3000 hours into this game. Probably 2k of that is making stuff just for if to break after like 1-2 years

[quick totem]

Yeah I can imagine, but theres really no other way around it

[toxic forge]

:( I hope we all get a miracle

[feral sequoia]

Ayo guys, anyone here knows how to use substance painter or know good tutorials?

I'm at the point of texturing and well... Blender just won't cut it

[wheat rover]

I just dont see how doing a janky resetting pose to toggle anything looks less ugly than simply toggling it on and off with 3.0, to me it seems like you just lie and say its ugly to validate your own inability or unwillingness to learn 3.0 @toxic forge can you elaborate on whats ugly?

[toxic forge]

Dude I do make 3.0 s

I'm making new ones like every week now learning more and more complex stuff. I love the menus

[wheat rover]

Then explain it to me im genuinely curious

[toxic forge]

I just hate how they LOOK AND MOVE. even with custom locomotion overrides they look so stiff and unnatural and they break and bug

[wheat rover]

But 2.0 looks the same to my knowledge

Atleast i cant tell a difference

[toxic forge]

Then maybe were more picky. I play VR all day so

[wheat rover]

And if you can why not re use the 2.0 animations?

[toxic forge]

I would love to set that up

3.0 to me just feels like vrchat focusing on getting the meat done, like the toggles, and then being lazy on the little things on it like default movements and things

"oh we made it have toggles, slap everything else together now"

That's how it totally comes off imo

[wheat rover]

i think they put a ton of more effort into having the movement feel more natural, while also letting the user change it to whatever they want

[toxic forge]

I disagree but you're welcome to have your own opinion

Glad to have a civil discussion tbh it's nice

[wheat rover]

but if its all animation based thats something you could do yourself as the user, you're given the creative power to

[toxic forge]

Yes. The one saving grace

[wheat rover]

if anything i wish 3.0 was more complicated with even more tools

butter been lurking the whole time

[vague raft]

You mentioned that you're not a fan of how sdk3 looks and moves but what sort of behaviours do you not like specifically. I know and can think of things that the current system does horrifically such as the IK 'pop' when you stop walking or opening the menu still setting the Upright to 1.0 folding most avatars.
What sort of things throw you off about it?

[wheat rover]

https://tenor.com/view/donowall-peepo-peepotalk-gif-21733159

damnit

[next lynx]

Does anyone do avatar commissions?

[deep ridge]

hi i need hel0

help

does anyone here know how to use unity to edit models

[sour oyster]

Y’all just wanted to ask this to make sure I’m not stepping on toes or anything of the sorts but is it considered “ripping” a model if I took an avatar I found in the game and edited it so that it has all the sitting/laying down animations?

[deep ridge]

about that

so i have this wartoetle model that i found

but like his head movements move the entire body model and i was wondering if someone can fix that for me

[sour oyster]

oh I see you asked that too!
I unfortunately only have a basic idea of blender and model editing so I’m not sure how to help 😦

[deep ridge]

oml

i just want to fix it

cause its one of my fav models and i hate that it does that

[vague raft]

taking anything out of the game requires ripping

[sour oyster]

That sounds like a rigging issue to me?

[vague raft]

and ripping bad

basically

[deep ridge]

so am i not able to do anything about fixing that

[vague raft]

I've seen some other models and they weren't rigged at all. Does the model have an Armature/bone structure?

[deep ridge]

it like

u can move his handa

and head

[sour oyster]

Okay just double checking. I’m willing to make this avatar from the ground up (It’s Legoshi from beastars in a cyberpunk jacket so it’s not really like a custom/private design) so my quest friends can see it too so I’m okay with doing that. Ty for the clarification!

[deep ridge]

but like when the head moves the entire body moves with it

like when i look down the model starts floating

[vague raft]

then chances are it is rigged if you can move things individually.

[deep ridge]

its really annoying

[vague raft]

this is a viewpoint position issue. it's too far forward

[deep ridge]

is it fixable

[vague raft]

by pushing the viewpoint back, yeah. It'll reduce that movement.

[deep ridge]

i do u know how to do that ^_^

[vague raft]

Unity, changing the View Position Z axis value closer to 0

[deep ridge]

so is that a yes?

cause i could maybe pay u if u do it for me haha

or is that bad

idk if im braking any rules

[vague raft]

it's changing 1 value before you upload. I'm sure you can handle it

[deep ridge]

im in occulus quest

so thats out of the question for me sadly

[vague raft]

how did you upload it then?

[deep ridge]

i didn't its like a public avatar

[vague raft]

then you can't do anything

[deep ridge]

damn

[vague raft]

you'd need to talk to the creator/uploader

[sour oyster]

I was about to say if you were on pc, you could just probably get Wartortle’s X/Y model and work with that

[deep ridge]

yea im on quest so i cant use pc avatars

thanks anyway for helping

[sour oyster]

Sorry we couldn’t help you out much

[deep ridge]

its fine

[weak jetty]

Dang is there any work arounds? It’s been saying the same thing for about two weeks now.

[neon finch]

What is better vrchat of fortnite?

[vague raft]

this is like comparing Destiny 2 to The Sims

[raw geode]

XD that's accurate actually

[toxic forge]

I don't know, it went away for me on its own. I think clearing your browsers cookies helps

[weak jetty]

Ill give it a try

[quiet heron]

yo does anyone here know about glow in the dark emissions

and what lighting (ie realistic) do i need to use on my model to get it to work

[neon finch]

Uh…standard lite?

[quiet heron]

ok ik the lighting on the face was set to toon

im just confused which exact lighing setting do i need to alter since i cant really find a definitive answer (also where to find it lol)

[neon finch]

Plug in an emissions map there, if the model came with one. If not, figure out where you wanna add lighting, and black everything else out in a photo editor

[quiet heron]

do u have a tutorial vid since im new to avi stuff

i just know the preset under light&shadow im using is toon

[novel pasture]

does anyone know why i was able to assign MatCap Lit but now the shader does not show up on the list?

[quiet heron]

does the direction light need to b in the unity file?

[quiet heron]

i did the white out thing. it just is always lit in vrchat vs in unity it is not

ya know

like it works in the unity maker but once in vrchat the lighting color im trying to use just is always on

[neon finch]

Because it’s already applied…?

[novel pasture]

can i only apply it to a certain amount of textures?

[neon finch]

…No🤨

[coarse minnow]

Is it possible to import an fbx into unity? last time I tried the bones and mesh were all f-d up

[west nest]

possible? fbx is made for unity

[coarse minnow]

FRICK

Blender*

I was distracted my bad

[west nest]

apply scales and transforms in blender

[coarse minnow]

Is that inside the import menu?

[west nest]

in object mode press a and ctr+a

[coarse minnow]

Okay, I'll check that out! Thanks

[barren hemlock]

Please do not import a blender file to Unity. It adds a ton of unnecessary data and filesize. Just export as FBX

[coarse minnow]

Already did that, I'm not importing .blend into unity at all right now

[barren hemlock]

Ah okay

[coarse minnow]

I just need to get the avatar into blender, decimate and edit some polys, and export it after

[novel pasture]

that's what happened. i was applying it to different textures then all of a sudden it wouldn't let me apply it to any anymore

disappeared from the list of vrchat mobile shaders

[autumn meteor]

Is there anywhere i can find prone and crouch animations?

[coarse minnow]

There's a website for that

but I forgot what it's called

[novel pasture]

anyone know why my avi has all the dynamics setup but they aren't moving?

[coarse minnow]

explain

[vague raft]

Either they have the dynamic bones limits set in game or they’re testing in unity and the dynamics have a distance disable enabled with the main camera too far away.

[young wind]

When do y’all think the physbones are coming?

[toxic forge]

Unlimit your dynamic bones in safety settings performance options

[brittle egret]

If I made a short avatar (1 or 2ft tall) would there be a way to give them like a floating animation or script so they could float around normal eye level? Or what would be the best way to go about that

[opaque mulch]

Hi guys

Im looking for the playspace menu ingame that is on the wheel menu of the avatar

Anyone knows where can i get or buy that resource?

I've seen it on a lot of avatars

[west nest]

gogo loco probably

[opaque mulch]

Can you link it to me pls?

[west nest]

https://booth.pm/en/items/3290806

[opaque mulch]

Yesss

Omg thanks you

[loud dock]

i made my avatar compatible for quest but now i cant open it on windows, how can i have both?

[neon finch]

In your Unity project, u can change the current build from PC/Windows to Android(Quest)

when you upload content whilist the Android mode, it will upload that vrchat content to the Android side of the pipeline

if ur on the PC/Windows build your uploads to vrchat are for the Windows/PC pipeline

so once you have made your Windows/PC upload on an avatar, switch the build to Android, give it time to load, and then upload again

remember that the only way vrchat knows what its uploading too is by the Avatar or World ID, and each can have 1 Android and 1 PC/Windows side of them

if thats an easier way of thinking about it

because once your in game and you run into the person, the avatar you see will of course differ depending on what device you are on (Quest or PC/Windows)

Also don't use mods/clients they are lame pls uninstall

[loud dock]

so i need to build each version

[neon finch]

You need to upload once while in the PC build and once while in the Android

to the same avatar/world ID

the avatar/world ID shouldnt change when you change your current build mode

ive never had it happen but this is unity so who knows honestly

[loud dock]

and it will merge automatically

[neon finch]

if you have an easier time thinking of it as merging then yes

its just as a piece of paper has 2 sides

[loud dock]

yeah but we make a description and name for each side

and then it turns into one

so what info does it keep

[neon finch]

wym

it has both

[loud dock]

https://gyazo.com/f48f9f2076eb17421c442539b6ef1172

[neon finch]

if someone else runs into you on Quest, they will see your Quest avatar

[loud dock]

this needs to be done twice

[neon finch]

if someone else runs into you on PC, they will see your PC avatar

[loud dock]

oh

[neon finch]

its for cross compatiability

[loud dock]

so they see the different info

[neon finch]

you could upload a cube for the quest avatar

and quest users would see cube

while PC users see a normal avatar

[loud dock]

xd

[neon finch]

so yes they see diff stuff

its confusing to people because they upload the same exact avatar and dont understand how they are actually kinda seperate

[young wind]

So you guys say that dynamic bones are on quest, but how are they not working for me? i upgraded the sdk just now.

[neon finch]

This update is for OSC, not Physics Bones

[young wind]

Aww darn it. but I see it on different avatars all the time

[loud dock]

where in unity are the active animations located?

[young wind]

VRCSDK3>examples3>animation>controllers. Is that what your looking for?

[loud dock]

yes

is it possible to add more than 8 anims?

btw this dude is creepy af

https://gyazo.com/86c9b1d98a2809719bbc08295111c1f1

[neon finch]

can anybody help me please

[acoustic ember]

explain your problem instead of asking for help with something unknown, this way ppl can know what you need help with and if they know anything about that subject

[neon finch]

well im trying to import my roblox avatar in vrchat but im new into publishing an avart so with some help it would be possible to make it happen

[acoustic ember]

replace them by dragging your own model into that window 🙂

[neon finch]

anyone know where to get a working leash that will pull the other person its attached to. a unity package?

[acoustic ember]

thats not possible

except if ur making a world

[neon finch]

What the cat said.

[neon finch]

ok

[neon finch]

do you know any unity packages that work on a world like somthing on booth or somthing?

As in for a world, or an avatar? Regardless of your answer, I don’t think I’d want to know what you’d have planned for something like that

[neon finch]

world

Dunno. I do know it’s possible, just not how

[neon finch]

ok thanks

[grave kite]

I have some questions about avatars.

1. Can you make avatars on Quest?
   And is it hard to make good avatars

[coarse minnow]

1. Yes
2. Depends, on quest? YES. On pc? nah

It depends more on, do I want it to look VERY good on quest? if so, most likely going to end up very poor if you're pushing it

[grave kite]

Ok ty

[toxic forge]

Based on the context I'm reading I feel like you're uploading 2 seperate avatars. Like with New IDs. It has the be the SAME ID

It's one avatar, uploaded twice

[carmine marsh]

Does anyone know how to add go go loco to models in unity

[neon finch]

I think they have a video tutorial out there on YouTube. At least, that’s what a friend of mine said

[carmine marsh]

ye I found one ty

[stray hedge]

Yo, the way to create new handposes in unity is through the animator.(LeftOrRight)hand.finger.bonenumber.Stretched(OrSpread). But what if I made an animation using just bone rotations (Transforms). Can I convert these to the other (animator) format somehow? Or do I have to redo it using the proper animator format?

[loud cape]

you have to animate the muscles, can't animate the transforms

Muscle Animation Editor is a unity tool on the asset store that can help you create muscle animations

[stray hedge]

Oh, thanks I'll check it out

[waxen totem]

hello I have a problem with unity when I want to publish an avatar Vrchat Where World its not want but me but its: FileNotFoundException: C:/Users/(my name)/AppData/Local/Temp/DefaultCompany/My project (10)/prefab-id-v1_avtr_b707572f-3008-4760-8bd5-6b14029b4494_8345720402.prefab.unity3d does not exist

[loud cape]

that error means the SDK can't find the built avatar because the build was aborted due to other errors

so look for other errors in the console

[acoustic ember]

well yeah, but thats not a acceptable way to do it

its against TOS

So for that reason i said its not possible

Because I will only discuss ways to do it that are within TOS

yeah, theres a shader for it but implementing the movement is not possible

[loud dock]

https://gyazo.com/02e67cca3dd7beb0e42e1a4318f8b468

https://gyazo.com/5ac570e04cf6c5d92d00c36dc4940951

anyone know why my idle animations are glitched in some sort of loop

[acoustic ember]

oh whaaaat

how is your controller set up?

[loud dock]

https://gyazo.com/6183aa5a5b54a0e33673403a785f7dd7

this?

i dont know why only the sit legs out prone idle works properly

the anims look fine

and i dont see the diff between them

is it the transitions?

https://gyazo.com/c483aaeb605315238679c9dc2701285f

https://gyazo.com/e5279fa1facf87334feafbfa9a350b2c

[vague raft]

It looks like it’s passing straight through, like the exiting transition is always being satisfied.

[young wind]

So I have a question. I see a lot of avatars (with me playing on quest) with dynamic bones. How is it that I can’t implement that into my avatar?

[upbeat prism]

Dynamic bones is a whitelisted 3rd party script, I believe the reason its not available on quest is the amount of cpu to run it can be a lot, especially for a mobile processor

[vague raft]

Quest doesn’t have dynamic bones. People are making animations for their hair and whatnot to ‘sway’ using Angular Y and/or Velocity X/Y/Z

It’s all manual animations rather than physics calculations

[young wind]

Oh. I wish I knew how to do that

[fluid grotto]

It’s all part of avatar 3! There are many tutorials online

You’d want to know how to do a blend tree.

[loud dock]

are there like preset packs of character positions i can buy and import

[cedar pumice]

I saw that SDK2 is depreciated and they're going to "lock" uploads for worlds and avatars soon, does that mean we won't be able to use those old avatars?

[tired cape]

yes

[loud dock]

where

[karmic totem]

there isn't a hard date set, and any content created with SDK2 will continue to work until it doesn't, it could be soon, it could be years from now, vrchat isn't going to kill it themselves actively

[hasty hemlock]

you'll still be able to use the avatars just vrchat not going to do anything if they eventually break from a a future update down the line

they just don't want people making new SDK 2 content so it doesn't suck as much when it eventually breaks

[karmic totem]

and sdk3 is better

[cedar pumice]

it's better, but for avatars that used what 3.0 avatars consider the gestures/action/FX layers, all in one.

for me, that's better and reduces the amount of work, by like 5 hours at least.

[neon finch]

It's not worth the devs time to keep sdk2 updated

They have other things to do

[hasty hemlock]

especially given all the new Avatar features they're currently working on

[cedar pumice]

they said in their post they want to keep it updated, so I dunno what you're saying rn haha.

[neon finch]

It's decapritated I'm pretty sure it means they haven't been making updates

[cedar pumice]

you can think what you want, I got my info, thanks.

[karmic totem]

This was the official message from tupper about sdk2 #open-beta-announcements message

[hasty hemlock]

and we're already have started on new Avatar features not working on SDK2 to like open Sound control

[karmic totem]

OSC and soon ™️ the phys stuff

and we have had udon for a while that is SDK3 only

unless I am dumb and it is sdk2 too

[neon finch]

oh so they dont stop making updates to make it functional until they remove it off the page?

[hasty hemlock]

or just none of the updates broke it

[neon finch]

Idk

Imma check vrchat docs I think it said it there

Yea

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944258254731632640/946902768403251250/Screenshot_20220225-175307.png

[karmic totem]

which is what tupper said

[neon finch]

Yea

[loud dock]

how does dps work

you need 2 compatible characters?

[wheat rover]

Penetrator object seeks orifice object

You can set channels for your penetrator and orifice objects so only the ones on the same channel attract

[loud cape]

you're trying to make working beyblades, ... right?

...right?

[wheat rover]

Of course.

I actually bougth that prefab from the guy who made it

Lmfaao

[vague raft]

I thought the new versions ditched this?

[neon finch]

How does one make avatars and stuff for vr chat been wanting avatar I can't seem to find at all

[vague raft]

Depending on how in depth with the process people generally use a combination of Blender into Unity.

[delicate kiln]

how the hell do people make them

[hasty hemlock]

lots of hard work and effort and blender

[delicate kiln]

it’s impossible

i tried to make one and none of the bones worked right

the clothing was all messed up

idk how to fix it but it’s making me upset

[vague raft]

It is a very long learning process. There are University course on it after all.

[delicate kiln]

i was even using vroid

why is the process so complicated

[wheat rover]

I have the newest version as far as im aware and i still have the option

[toxic forge]

does poiyomi have a screen overlay feature?

[loud cape]

because this is literally game design/3d modeling?

[white escarp]

I don't know why but I'm making a Pikachu/Pokémon Trainer avatar, but the Pikachu knows "Self-Defense" (Basically It pulls out a gun- might use OSC Voice Actvation.)

Like "Pikachu, use Defend!" and then a text box shows up and says "Pikachu used Defend- He has a F*cking Gun!"

[white escarp]

And... textures won't cooperate

[mild yew]

Is there a way to hide certain particles only from first person view?

[tiny ice]

Hi does anyone know how to combine two animations together and prompt activation of each animation via the expression menu?

[cinder urchin]

I am not up to date so, did VRChat already added multi threaded "physics bone" to the game and SDK yet?

[agile solar]

No.

Avatar Dynamics aren't a thing yet.

Since when? o_O

Like, when were they released?

[orchid vale]

uhhh no artemus is right hahah

[high spear]

Huh

[cinder urchin]

how to get informations to use them? I want to use this high optimised multi-threaded hair physics

[languid brook]

same reason why people take that one doctor saying poison works to keep away an illness instead of the thousand doctors saying it won't help

[cinder urchin]

is it not for the beta version of VRChat useable?

so if you say, they are a tghing now. so you surely can link me a guide to enable them.

[barren hemlock]

Avatar Dynamics have not been released yet nor are they in any beta release. The only beta available now is the IK 2.0 beta

[cinder urchin]

for what is ik 2.0, if not for multi threaded physic bones?

[barren hemlock]

IK is the way the game simulates your body. Nothing to do with dynamic bones

[barren hemlock]

https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/vrchat-ik-2

[cinder urchin]

when will it come out?

[barren hemlock]

Dynamics?

[cinder urchin]

If it is called like that, then yes
https://youtu.be/_jgfy0iikqk?t=309

[barren hemlock]

There's no set date on that. Presumably sometime this summer

[cinder urchin]

hope.

[neon finch]

there is a theroy is that it's tomorrow on the 27th

I doubt though since this just got here

[young wind]

I’m so effing excited!

I'm getting my avatar ready as we speak!

[neon finch]

You should show it off once it's finished! #avatar-showcase

[cinder urchin]

how can I make spawnable portals with my avatars? (not VRChat portals) I mean selfmade portals, that I can shoot with a portalgun to spawjn a portal from the toilet to the kitchen as example...
I saw this already in a chell avatar and I really would likee to know, how can I build this in my avatar?

[young wind]

I sure will

[edgy phoenix]

@kind haven bringing the convo out of showcase: I'm curious as to how you implemented the particle triggers

[kind haven]

precise timing and trial and error

if particle dies before the window, count it as a hit
else, count it as a miss

there is also a mode where you can shoot with both hands - left hand is a blue target, right hand is a red target

if you hit the targets with the wrong hand you get -1

high score persists across logins/world changes as well

[edgy phoenix]

is it not an avatar parameter then?

[kind haven]

what is "it"?

[edgy phoenix]

high score

[kind haven]

it is

[edgy phoenix]

does it reset on "reset avatar" then?

[kind haven]

yes

[edgy phoenix]

or switching avatars?

[kind haven]

reset avatar is the only action that can reset high score

[edgy phoenix]

awesome

[kind haven]

😄

but yea - the particle triggers themselves are quite complicated - i didnt invent the concept, i just implemented it in this way

[edgy phoenix]

black magic to me honestly lol

[kind haven]

me too sometimes

[edgy phoenix]

I'm somewhat new to VRChat but I have a background in programming and the stuff that people do with the 3.0 animators alone boggles my mind

[kind haven]

yea honestly it does to me too

im still just scratching the surface with whats possible

i do software for school and work as well, and that really helps with problem solving but yea - youre really limited with what you can do so its crazy what people come up with considering

[edgy phoenix]

friggin state machine madness

[kind haven]

oh god

state machine for this system is quite complex

about 95% of it is actually generated through code

i couldnt be asked to do it all manually

[edgy phoenix]

actually? is there a compiler for unity animators?

[kind haven]

no its native

just through editor scripting

[edgy phoenix]

ah gotcha

[young wind]

I hope dynamics come soon

[silver cobalt]

wh

nice

anyway

so

why arent my avatars uploading?

they show on the website but not in game

i know its not a avatars 3 thing but yknow this is the only avatar channel that i feel is the correct place to ask

is it just servers being slow?

its been 30 minutes

[sharp merlin]

I have a some question.
Is that not able to see avatar with quest even throught made for quest competible? My quest competized avatar was set to very poor.

[silver cobalt]

update: its been like an hour now lol

still nothing

[foggy pelican]

What unity version are you using?

[silver cobalt]

2019.4.29f1

only because i cant find .30f1 to download

however it worked earlier today so im not sure if thats the issue

[foggy pelican]

You can download the correct version through the hyperlinks in here. https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version
Though that version you're using should technically work.

[silver cobalt]

thank you ^-^ i still dont understand why the avatar hasnt shown up in game though :(

[bitter fern]

I have some problems regarding publishing models on VRC SDK, can someone possbily help me? I pressed auto fix on a "Streaming Mipmaps not on" and after I autofixed, the builder menu is now empty while publishing
I am trying to create a 2D image model for funzies but im having a hard time with it

[quiet girder]

ok lets try this chat im looking for a good avatar creator to make 2 custom kitsune avatars

[silver adder]

VRC Traders would be a better place to ask, check #community-servers-old for an invite link.

[waxen veldt]

hey

anyone here

[edgy phoenix]

no

[waxen veldt]

is it ok if I use toon shaders and something is greyed out?

[edgy phoenix]

what does that mean

[waxen veldt]

#avatar-help

[waxen veldt]

it is crazy that transparency isn't supported on quest

also #avatar-search-old

[unborn parrot]

whoops

[waxen veldt]

Ima go to bed the transparency is nothing that I should deal with in the morning

I think I fixed it

[west rose]

Anyone know how to work Unity really well?

[silver adder]

I'd check out some of the official tutorials for using the editor.

[strong shell]

quest has shit hardware it runs terribly

it's crazy that quest has such shit hardware

[west nest]

for 299$ it's decent

but people expect from it too much

[young wind]

I’d say it’s a good deal honestly. At least for someone who doesn’t have very high standards.

[west nest]

or big budget but want to taste vr

[normal turtle]

Meanwhile Valve Vr Is $999.99 LOL

[silver cobalt]

its been over 12h :c

[west nest]

did you re-uploaded it with 2019.4.31f1?

[silver cobalt]

no, not yet, but let me give it a go

[west nest]

give your avatar new blueprint and upload it again in right version.

[loud cape]

@silver cobalt avatar bundles are straight up not even loaded if they were not uploaded with a compatible version

that's why you will never see it

[silver cobalt]

i had uploaded an avatar previously that same exact day

and it worked just fine

[west nest]

yes it can work but it mostly will not.

[loud cape]

what version?

[silver cobalt]

2019.4.29f1

[loud cape]

if it's a version that was previously supported, it'll work

okay, that one should work

was the first version used for the 2019 update

[west nest]

yeah but with new sdk it can not work.

better re upload it in right version it will probably appear.

[silver cobalt]

ill grab the newest sdk too just in case its updated since i last downloaded it

[west nest]

it did

2 days ago

with new osc support

[silver cobalt]

👍

[red path]

Fooma made exactly that and showcased it with some explanation. Requires FinalIK though, which is a rather expensive Unity Asset: https://youtu.be/r6-vgYB5Z-8?t=1570

[silver cobalt]

still isnt working :(

nvm!!

it showed up

[west nest]

bruh u got me worried.

bad

now it works just use this unity and sdk.

[neon finch]

Is there a way to categorize avatars you've made into groups? Or is that exclusive to + members?

[west nest]

i think you can only sort them

not categorize

[neon finch]

I'll have to check ingame later, I guess.

[silver cobalt]

sorry xD i didnt mean to

[sonic pier]

I've a question. I got this avi I really like but the arms are just a bit to short is there someone who can help me make them longer in blender? I've only got unity experience

[west nest]

making arms longer isn't easy, you would need fix uv's if they gonna have problem and rig.

[sonic pier]

even if its just a bit?

i dont mind a bit of stretching's

[west nest]

it depends but if it's small change you could try just editing mesh slighty with small movement of vertices

[sonic pier]

would you mind helping me/doing it for me (with compensation ofc)

[west nest]

i could check it if it's simple i can help you for free.

[sonic pier]

that would be much appreciated

[west nest]

dm blender file.

[cinder urchin]

Is final IK with VRChat compatible?

[red path]

Yes

[cinder urchin]

are you talking about this?
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/final-ik-14290

[red path]

Yes, that's the one

[cinder urchin]

And this is the only way to make a vrchat Avatar with the SDK3, with a workable portal gun?

[red path]

I don't know to be honest...😅 Not too sure if it's possible to get a similar effect with just constraints.

[cinder urchin]

Do you know a guide / tutorial to make teleportations with Final IK for VRChat?

[red path]

Nope, I don't do this kind of stuff. I was on that meetup shown in the video, so I know it's possible.

[cinder urchin]

I also can not find any tutorial for teleportation with Final IK

Is there a documentation or Youtube tutorial for this, or how they found out to use Final IK to make working portalguns as a Avatar feature?

[heady karma]

Hi. I am searching an avatar test world, which lets you inspect your avatar from all sides.
I once saw one, which created like a clone of you. The clone was moving like the player but moonwalking in place. Any ideas ?

[boreal onyx]

How do I fix my avatars arms being bent or inside them?

[edgy phoenix]

Quick question: what's an appropriate texture size for an avatar?

The docs say don't go above 1k for quest, but I feel like that's too low res for anything that's not meant to be low poly

[barren hemlock]

1k is plenty of size even for an atlas

[edgy phoenix]

huh

even for PC?

[barren hemlock]

Yeah. I have a full atlas that's 2k for PC (my avatar is 1 single texture)

1k is completely fine especially if you're not using an atlas

[edgy phoenix]

and it holds up even under close inspection?

[barren hemlock]

If people are closely inspecting you then they have issues of their own

It looks fine in most circumstances. Remember this is a videogame, not IRL

[edgy phoenix]

true

[barren hemlock]

There will always be pixels no matter how high res you have a texture

[edgy phoenix]

yeah ig

I just don't want to break my immersion when I'm next to a mirror

[barren hemlock]

Pixels break your immersion? Do you have an 8k headset or something?

[edgy phoenix]

lol no

[barren hemlock]

Then I wouldn't worry too much about it. As a general performance rule, you should never need to exceed 2k on PC, 1k on Quest

[edgy phoenix]

That's a perfect rule of thumb, thanks

I'm coming from making film quality assets so I'm used to looking at models close up haha

It's a bit of a weird transition to making optimized models

[barren hemlock]

Oh yeah film and videogames are SUPER different in terms of performance. Film needs to look as good as possible but remember you can render a film over the course of a week lol. Videogames need to run in realtime so you have to make sacrifices with optimizing performance

[edgy phoenix]

ofc

[true flint]

what if someone riped a avatar i have proof

in a screenshot

[agile solar]

#moderation-reports

Attach as much proof.

[true flint]

#moderation-reports

[delicate kiln]

anyone know stuff about vroid here?

[lyric ledge]

it depends on the rest of the information. People are not interested in double asking. So just put a statement of what have you done and what is your objective.

[delicate kiln]

just wondering cause’ my vroid instance won’t let me export a certain avatar and if i go and remake it it still won’t but if i make anything else it works fine

it keeps saying “an error has occurred, please try again.”

[toxic forge]

I might look fine on desktop, but immediately it's gonna look like ass in vr

[pliant jasper]

Hey

[toxic forge]

Cope harder on my 4k texture atlas

God forbid you download another 5 megabytes

[silver adder]

It's more a VRAM usage thing, not file size.

Very high resolution textures can cause problems for people who have less than 4GB of VRAM.

[toxic forge]

You should not be in vrchat with less than 12gb god dayum
Edit vram like 6

[silver adder]

I mean, it can be counteracted by having more regular RAM. Cause any VRAM overflow will just go to system memory.

[toxic forge]

But like fr tho. Bad textures do mess with immersion. And I want to put out as best quality as I can. Textures don't really impact performance so why not make it look mice

Impact like compared to materials, polys, or shaders

[delicate kiln]

nevermind

[delicate kiln]

cries in 3gb vram…

[strong shell]

textures do impact performance for sure, those 1GB avatars are not free of sin

[silver adder]

Textures only have a noticeable performance impact when they cause your GPU's VRAM to be exceeded, because then the lower speed and higher latency of system RAM compared to VRAM becomes a performance bottleneck.

Or if you just have a potato GPU.

[lyric ledge]

What's "vroid instance"?

I have never come across "error occured" when making vroid avatars

[toxic forge]

They're like 8mb calm down

[strong shell]

[toxic forge]

Ooo spooky, more than 3 mb

My 4k textured avatars with all their animations come out to 8mb so not bad I'd say

[elfin compass]

Are the dynamics of the avatars already enabled or is it that they will be included soon?

[strong shell]

no

[elfin compass]

no... what?

[strong shell]

not implemented, no information on when

[elfin compass]

oh ok

[loud cape]

8mb download size yes, but 21mb in VRAM for that texture alone

even if you use crunch compression, all textures are decompressed when going into VRAM

[silver adder]

I mean, if you've got the model optimized down to just a single material, is a 4k texture really that bad?

On PC anyways.

[delicate kiln]

just the program opened

[loud cape]

if it's a single texture for the whole model, then it's totally fine

[silver adder]

Like, one of my avatars uses a 4k texture, but it's for the whole model on a single material.

[delicate kiln]

it just won’t export

[barren hemlock]

Okay then Mr.Pimak 8k

[scenic wave]

Could anybody tell me what editor version of unity we're currently using?

[west nest]

2019,4,31f1

[barren hemlock]

Yeah 8mb until they decompress into VRAM and are a gigabyte for a single avatar

[finite leaf]

Strange. What version of VRoid are you using?

[delicate kiln]

the latest on steam

[finite leaf]

Interesting.

How are you trying to export it? Export VRM and all that?

[delicate kiln]

yes vrm

it keeps saying that error

i restarted it and my pc

[finite leaf]

Can you screencap the error? Also I'll relocate to the avatars 3 help channel

[delicate kiln]

k give me just a few minutes

[vernal gull]

oi where can i find the dynamic bones download?

[barren hemlock]

Unity Asset Store

[finite leaf]

Yeah

It's $20 from the Unity Asset store

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/dynamic-bone-16743

There's the link

Once you've bought it you can install it into your project from the unity package manager (Window, Package Manager, My Assets, you should see Dynamic Bone listed)

[white escarp]

I've got another question for Avatar sellers (Below the age of 18) how do you manage to get paid for your work if PayPal is for +18?

[barren hemlock]

Not legally

[white escarp]

oof

My dad won't let me set one up

[barren hemlock]

For good reason

[white escarp]

15 btw

[barren hemlock]

IMHO you shouldn't even be selling assets if you're not 18

[neon finch]

But if you truly think you have the skills to do so, keep improving. Then when the time comes, you can come out of the gate swinging

[solemn atlas]

yuh

nothing stops you from making an artstation/sketchfab

pretty sure they do monthly competitions and stuff with prompts

maybe start off my doing free bases and offer them to people, then down the road you can offer premium paid bases/edits when you have a following

[candid bane]

Question: I'm trying to import an avatar from a game that's unity compatable and I'm new to this completely, how do I tell which mesh are the ones I need?

[hearty musk]

Gonna be spending an unholy amount of time reworking the NKD protogens poly count heh

[finite leaf]

RIGHT. Time to work on some avatar optimizations and other things

[neon finch]

Is there any known substitute to dynamic bones right now?

I’m just not tryna pay $20 just so I can see the bones move in unity

[barren hemlock]

Once Avatar Dynamics releases (sometime this summer most likely) yes. Currently the only other way is to use Rigidbodies which is much less optimized and takes a lot more setup to work

[finite leaf]

Yay finally figured out how to do Atlasing

Making progress!

My poly count is in the green now

[lyric ledge]

https://github.com/Markcreator/VRChat-Tools#dynamic-bone-container-v130

[neon finch]

Thanks guys.

[fluid grotto]

There is no legal law forbidding someone under the age of 18 from selling content online, but there is no legal method to do so; as someone under the age of 18 can’t enter any legal contracts.

[normal turtle]

Well technically you could get someone who is 18+ (say your parents) to run the PayPal

But then you need that middleman ofc

[autumn cosmos]

Use the animator tab

[left arch]

I got you.

Use Notepad++, open the anim file, find the bone name, replace with new name.

Literally it's a text file.

Hand to god, it's that easy I do it all the time for replacing guns and stuff.

[wintry glade]

Its less coding and more just editing a txt

Every node starts with something like this:
path: Spider Root Hips/Spider Root/Spider Spine/Talk Sphere Inner Ring

[left arch]

^^^

It's literally literally a text file

@wintry gladeBTW, found a stupid geometry trick for elbows that works and I hate it.

It adds the friggin elbow bone on arm bend

no fix bones needed.

T_T

[wintry glade]

Rigging is a world of exploits

I honestly stopped adding twist bones because

1. I dont want to weight it
2. I dont care enough

[left arch]

MFW making a system to auto-add constraints base don bone name, and this negates the need for a full 4 bones I was intent on using

I'm not mad

I'm NOT mad.

I'll keep the bones there

but

Ok I'm mad.

pic incoming. I dont have rig on, but the geometry is the voodoo.

[wintry glade]

The first technique is always the overcomplicated one imo

Yeah just open the .anim file with a notepad editor in file explorer

[left arch]

Check my stream, I'll show you.

@high spearClick my name, click "watch"

type in chat when you see me.

[sinful junco]

For the ik update, will i be able to use intermediate 8 point tracking? like if i only wanted knee tracking and no elbow tracking is that possible?

[wintry glade]

IIRC its either both elbows, both knees, or all 4

[winter mountain]

With this new update, is it possible to turn-off locomotion animations for any avatar? Previously this was a flag that had to be set at build time.

[sinful junco]

@winter mountain You can do this easily by disabling transitions in the proper animation controller before you upload the avatar. or do you mean literally just as a basic feature for any avatar, like not ones you own?

[winter mountain]

Ideally, yes, for any avatar I'm using. Currently I'm not permitted to upload an avatar and even if I could it would first involve a ton of learning how to create one - just to support my 'KatVR-style' tracking hardware.

[sinful junco]

Epic

[harsh hull]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/1154-feedback-add-force-loco-animations-for-6-point-tracking-toggle-in-fbt-qm

probably not going to be a part of the ik beta, but worth upvoting the canny

should add your use case to the comments too

[winter mountain]

Okay, thanks, good to know it's in the system. Sadly, I cannot access Canny.

[winter mountain]

On that subject (and avatar upload privileges et al), I completely understand that VRC has needed to generate revenue to cover operating costs but now it's attracting venture capital I'd have thought paywall-ing such basic access is something to abandon in favour of growing the user base. Just seems a bit anti-user in this day and age and an invitation for new operators to swoop in and achieve quick growth through lower barriers to entry. The typical model monetizes users once they're in the platform.

[harsh hull]

uploading content to their servers is basic access?

confused what is anti user

[winter mountain]

Model is upside down. YT doesn't charge you to upload content to their servers (for instance).

[harsh hull]

neither does vrchat

just play for a bit to rank up

[winter mountain]

How long?

[harsh hull]

didn’t even take me a day

[winter mountain]

Nobody can say, I've seen it said it can be weeks or months.

[karmic totem]

Yeah, paying is not a requirement to upload and never has been, the only thing it does now is basically allow you to upload day 1, don't even need to actually play.

[harsh hull]

oh yeah

vrchat plus can boost you to new user from visitor i guess

but play for a bit and you’ll rank up normally

it’s not too expected that someone who just launched the game would want to upload content anyways, so i think the limitation is fine

took me 20 hours logged in VRChat world hopping and hanging out with people to rank to new user

early days were fun times

[winter mountain]

You're already invested, I get that, but as a newcomer I think the model is flawed and ripe to be superceded by a newcomer that doesn't implement such barriers. Understandable in the early days but it's different ball game now, investment is flowing.

Most everything I see about VRC suggests it won't be able to compete.

[karmic totem]

Another social VR game allowed for uploads immediately, they have had maybe 20-50 max online at once since launching last year. It was supposed to be the VRChat killer, it wasn't, none have been.

This conversation should be taken to #general-media or one of the two #vrchat-general-1 #vrchat-general-2 as it doesn't pertain to SDK3 though

If you'd like to upload immediately without playing and understanding how things are, pay for VRC+. If you'd like to learn about the game, play for a while until you get to New User rank, then go ham with creating if you really want.

[finite leaf]

yowza uhhh... The tri limits for quest avatars certainly... has an impact

[pastel berry]

R brushes dead yet

@everyone

Hehe

Im so funny

Holy shit

[finite leaf]

Thought the eyes were broken on my avatar because of some atlas thing I did. Turns out I'd just mapped the wrong blendshape like an idiot whoopsie

[neon finch]

so.. just gonna dump this here: if any1 knows how to make 2d face rigs in blender that are compatible with unity/VRchat please let me know. I have a situation where I want a 2d face rig but dont know how to make one that will work with unity.

[neon finch]

anyone know how to fix this error? https://gyazo.com/897b929369d32565f108447ed6967728

[neon finch]

Gotta remake my whole avatar today 😭

My first 3.0 skin is coming soon

[fluid grotto]

That is the parents then and the parents could guilty of child labor

[timid path]

there are bank accounts for kids who get money via allowance or work but arent the age to have a regular bank account i dont have one but know there a thing

[neon finch]

Is there any way to make part of an avatar glow without the use of a particle system? Asking for a cross-compatible method

[strong shell]

emission

[neon finch]

...So there is no other option?

I know what an emission map is

It's just it's not a guaranteed glow-every-time type deal

[strong shell]

you need the postprocessing to have bloom enabled basically

in the world

[hasty hemlock]

or surrounding your glowing bit in a alpha texture to make the little glow circle

[strong shell]

that's not gonna work in quest

[hasty hemlock]

so yeah emissive material is about the best you can get on the quest

which just has that bit ignore lighting not make a glow outline

[neon finch]

Alright. Just wanted to weigh my options.😔

[hasty hemlock]

the quest is basically a cell phone so not a whole lot of options that fit within its power budget

and having like a properly optimized Quest Avatar at all is a big improvement over most folks

so I doubt they're going to be too upset that there's not glow outlines

[half rover]

So, I've been told that for a meetup I'm thinking of attending in the future, I need a green optimized avatar. Anyone know if it'd be difficult to do that with a Rantichi?

[karmic totem]

Fairly sure that the default Rantichi fits within that for PC if you remove dynamic bones.

Well, mostly, I think you would need to combine the meshes in Blender first

[half rover]

Will the ears become cardboard if I do that?

[hasty hemlock]

could you share a screenshot of your current stat screen when you try to upload the avatar

so we can see what actually needs optimizing

[karmic totem]

If using the default Rantichi you can have it be green, but you need to remove the colliders and dynamic bone support. If you've added clothes or accessories, you just need to possibly combine meshes and materials to fit within the Green performance rank

without removing the scripts, this is what I get with the default rantichi and removing the extra ears. If you need help on figuring out what you need to do with yours, you will need to share screenshots @half rover https://i.imgur.com/D39AyjF.png

[half rover]

Admittedly right now this is just something I have to start considering. Maybe if I'm lucky, I can find a premade I like that fits a green performance ranking

[shy bear]

I try to upload my avatar and it keeps making a prefab???

[karmic totem]

That usually comes along with an error in the console, which is also usually preceded by at least 1 other error. You need to check the console and fix the errors that are anything other than one that says something about a prefab not existing

[shy bear]

@karmic totem it's uploading all I did was restart unity I don't understand how that fixed it...

there were no errors

[karmic totem]

if it is uploading now, that's good, but as far as no errors, you probably have errors hidden in the log, unity creating prefabs when you attempt to upload means there are errors for sure

[shy bear]

so then how is it allowing me to upload now that I restarted unity?

[karmic totem]

Could have been that Unity failed to compile a script, restarting it caused it to correctly compile it. Unknown without knowing the error before restarting

[neon finch]

Hello, I'm having a problem where double-clicking a Unity package doesn't open the import window, but dragging and dropping manually still works. What do I do to fix this?

[finite leaf]

Sounds like a unity thing

[barren hemlock]

Right click the file, choose "Open With", then select "Choose another app" and select Unity in there

If Unity isn't in that list you'll have to browse to the EXE

[neon finch]

i will try this again but all it did was change the package icon no change in behaviour.

[neon finch]

ah i will try this

[barren hemlock]

If that doesn't work it seems this registry key may work:
https://gist.github.com/unitycoder/74ed2abca19fa227b0027bdad58ad65f

[neon finch]

Very strange, this solution worked this time. thanks

[delicate kiln]

can you use unity on mac to make avatars for vrc?

[finite leaf]

Probably? Just wouldn't be able to test them as easily I suppose

[fallen shuttle]

Hey, anyone know of any videos on how to do touch interations in VRC? I want to make a phone that toggles things (please ping if responding to me)

[clear cobalt]

Anyone know where I can find a musket with detailed loading and arming animations? I've seen some avatars with a musket and one with a flintlock that has very neat reload functions to it. Just don't wanna make it if it is already out there

[vague minnow]

Could anyone make me a avatar or help me make one ^^’ I’m not sure how I’m pretty new

[umbral hedge]

I have a new user account but when I push the avatar through the SDk I have an error

"Error saving blueprint"

help please

[vague raft]

try following the message I just dropped in #avatar-help. Same type of error

[shy bear]

I have a lay down animation that shows my perspective behind the head when will vrchat fix this?

[lyric ledge]

that depends on the avatar, does it have anything not weight painted to the head bone hierarchy?

[hexed bane]

looking for all sorts of kermit avatar :)))

oh wrong chat oops

[tardy elbow]

Anyone trading avatars

[neon finch]

Is there a way to give controller feedback in the sdk?

Kinda like how worlds vibrate your controller when you do a certain action?

[ornate parrot]

What do people do with their locomotion or descriptor to remove the walking animation in full body?

[neon finch]

Pretty sure it amounts to taking a copy of the locomotion controller and just deleting those animations from the hierarchy. Or creating a toggle that disables those animations

[neon finch]

Such as...?

[ornate parrot]

Tried removing the animations from the blend tree and it made my model try to bicycle pose when I moved.

[neon finch]

Only other thing I know of that might be able to help would be gogoloco. I believe it has a toggle that halts leg movement

[ornate parrot]

Hmm okay

[tardy elbow]

I really don’t know

[neon finch]

Well, that might be good to find out

[worn orbit]

You need to be a New user to upload avatars right? Or do you need vrchat+?

[hasty hemlock]

you just need to be new user vrchat plus isn't involved in the upload process at all

[worn orbit]

Okay, thanks my friends were confusing me.

[hasty hemlock]

all that vrchat plus does is potentially get you to new user faster

as far as Avatar uploading stuff

[acoustic ember]

VRC+ makes it so that you can instantly upload content

No matter account age

[glad bane]

Hello I’m looking for to create my character for VRchat where do I begin and what program do I need?

[vivid sorrel]

you should look into the basics of what UnityEngine is, as this game is based on that engine, and uploading stuff is based on an add-on to Unity. as for a tutorial, im currently looking, cuz im confused since the new SDK

[vivid sorrel]

General Question: what does the sdk3 look like?

can anyone take a screenshot, cuz i don't remember if i updated or not, trying a project from 3 years ago

[lyric ledge]

vroid, tafi, readyplayerme, unity, blender, etc.

[toxic forge]

add an avatar descriptor to something and that will show you which sdk it is provided you remember what sdk2s looked like

[vivid sorrel]

i think sdk2 didn't have expression params, did it?

[toxic forge]

if its got a section to adjust the eye rotations thats 3.0

[vivid sorrel]

ok, so im on the right thing

now im weirded out by this scriptableobject with params.

more of a unity than sdk weirdness.

[toxic forge]

i dont wanna be that person, but if the projects 3 years old you should probably update your sdk anyway because 3,0 has changed since then

[vivid sorrel]

it was in 3.0, even with some custom emote stuff.

now im just scrolling it, it makes sense, but some things don't wanna work.

eg i put in #avatar-help

[neon finch]

Wait… are you trolling?

[toxic forge]

please dont buy it to upload content

[karmic totem]

No, that is true information, as long as you are not in Nuisance rank, being in visitor and paying for VRC+ 1 time will get you to New User so you can upload avatars.

[neon finch]

Oh i see

I recently made a new account so i was curious

[strong shell]

if you want to buy it to upload content, I see nothing wrong with it

it's your money

10 dollars is not that much unless you are struggling with money at the moment in which case chill

[neon finch]

Yeah

I will probably just get to new user again and buy vrc+ sometime anyways

[toxic forge]

they give 0 shits about their content creators, please dont.

everyone in here is kind of brainwashed though so theyll disagree with me, but go talk to some creators in vrchat itself and you can get their opinions instead

[shy bear]

can someone please message me

who knows about vrchat well

[strong shell]

just write your question here

[shy bear]

my vrchat account disappeared

it doesn’t exist and I wasn’t banned it just doesn’t exist

I know I made the account

[strong shell]

if it was many years old without activity for years, it is gone

[shy bear]

I remembered playing on it

what’s that supposed to mean

[strong shell]

it means if it was many years old without activity, it doesn't exist anymore

gone, eliminated, deleted, turned to atoms

[shy bear]

I made it last year and vrchat wouldn’t delete an account

for inactivity

[strong shell]

they did a few years ago yes

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/438100/old_view/1332350869580767587?l=japanese

[shy bear]

so then was it a mistake

so this a glitch in the system

I made the account in last year

[strong shell]

how do you know it disappeared

maybe you deleted it manually there's also that chance

also

that has absolutely nothing do to with avatars

this is the wrong channel to ask about that

[shy bear]

so then where do I need to go

why would I delete it I wouldn’t have done such a thing

[vapid river]

if I want to make it so particles collide with my avatar, would I need to add a mesh collider to my avatar?

[heady karma]

Hi. In my avatar SDK3 project with unity 2019 I get those errors. Are they coming from the SDK ? Should I fix them ? Any ideas how ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941874185834229810/949348929378603119/unknown.png

It seems the origin from "AmplitudeSDKWrapper" - but what is that ? Thats VRChat SDK right ?

[hasty hemlock]

no that's not the vrchat SDK as they would say VRChat SDK

[heady karma]

could be pumpkins or poiyomi too ... idk. :(

[late tartan]

Try removing pumkins, you might be using an older version

[kindred ice]

Who is hyped with physbones?

[hasty hemlock]

a lot of people given that what's in avatar Dynamics is one of the most requested sets of features in the game

[neon finch]

I got a taste of what PhysBones collision could be in CVR, it was really cool. Really hype for PhysBones for VRChat, although I hope they disable Dynamic Bones inside that update, or at least enforce a grace period for phaseout.

Muh Frames

[hasty hemlock]

their plan is to Auto convert all Dynamic bones to physics bones

[crisp kindle]

does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to add lip sync in unity? I downloaded an avatar yet when I upload it no mouth movements. So I believe I will have to add them myself. Anyone know of a good one?

[wraith harness]

avatar dynamics looking cool

[sonic coyote]

@crisp kindle Sippbox has some decent avatar tutorial videos, you can see their tutorials here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlZXDJueks&list=PLt8qiEFqNHFkPqpKLnVRx-G78mGvjPbFt&index=1

the first video has the details on enabling your visemes at about 2:25

if you need to actually create your own visemes the method depends on whether or not your avatar has facial bones or just a mesh that you'll need to shape.

this tutorial by Kareeda is decent if your model has facial bones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gjQZjUN7EY

and this tutorial by Fofamit is pretty good if you do not have facial bones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R17p4D5HnTc

[lunar gulch]

is it bad if I cloned a paid avatar in the past? I just realized that the one I cloned a while ago and use is actually being sold by the creator, and wasn't sure if I should do anything about it or pay them or something instead of keeping it

[quartz shuttle]

wait can you even clone avatars that arnt in a world?

[lunar gulch]

you can clone other players avatars if they have it enabled

I saw that they had a cool avatar and asked them if I could clone it

[quartz shuttle]

oh damn thats news to me thank you

[quartz shuttle]

also to comment on this, no its not bad unless your making money off the avatar. its like using a profile pic that you didnt get made for you

[lunar gulch]

alright

[vapid river]

so far one of my only complaints with avatar dynamics is the massive step per integer increment when changing stuff like the location of a receiver or the size of a bone collider, I have to use really small decimals otherwise the size difference is massive

really hope they change that

other than that I'm having a blast right now

[patent peak]

can somone help me anytime i try to install the sdk this pops up Copying assembly from 'Temp/UnityEngine.TestRunner.dll' to 'Library/ScriptAssemblies/UnityEngine.TestRunner.dll' failed

[crystal sedge]

where can i DL PhysBones?

;;

[agile solar]

#open-beta-discussion

[velvet hatch]

hey so if i go to sdk of vrchat builder and press build and test offline, where do i find the avatar to test?

[karmic totem]

same as any other beta, look at #open-beta-announcements

[quiet heron]

hey is anyone here know blender and willing to teach me? Looking to add a blindfold to a model in blender then make it togglable in unity

[peak fulcrum]

does anyone here do commissions for low poly avatars on vrchat? or just any avatar in general

[tardy birch]

How can i add audio to custom emotes?

[elder carbon]

avatars can be built from MAc right?

@urban prairie Doesnt have a PC so if she cant get it uploaded from mac then oof

[teal path]

Is there a prefab for the animation speed stuff or is it easy to implement?

[mystic creek]

i need a rikka avatar

[toxic forge]

probably because they expect you to have your avatar size as 1 when imported

not 0.01 or whatever it can be sometimes

to be the right height for vrchat. thats my only guess

[candid bane]

Does anyone have any experience with Noesis?

[mossy epoch]

Hey, does someone know how I can make a toggle for my walking animations etc?

I would like to be able to turn them of sometimes

[sand sail]

Half my thicc avatars got deleted lol-

[neon finch]

Gee, I can't imagine why...

[sand sail]

Like the thicc pumkat avatar i had-

[neon finch]

And it had what kind of toggles...?