quest-general

[white granite]

thats their own fault and choose then. if you want to jump out of the window and I told you thats a bad idea, why is it my fault if you break your bones?

[haughty coyote]

I don't see what would really change if the limits went up a bit

in my experience the content I see is like barley poor or wayyy over poor in very poor land so

[brazen thunder]

finally, a standalone vr headset that can perform like my 3 year old phone

[white granite]

its a lot...
even having 1k polygons more.

[haughty coyote]

I mean its not like most people's avatars are just 1k over the limit

[brazen thunder]

limits wont change until quest 2 is eol

[white granite]

I think the snapdragon XR2 processors would run better as a VR device than a current modern phone.

[south dragon]

I'm out, I popped in to see what was going on and it's just talking to a wall.

[white granite]

you can another item on it in blender.
But but better would it be to set the limits +5k higher for everything, if we cancel the quest 1.
like medium rank up to 20k and poor rank up to 25k...

[brazen thunder]

tbh nah

standalone should stay the same and should be able to run more than 20fps for a change

[haughty coyote]

I'm familiar with blender, the avatar models I have 'optimized' the polygons/tris usually have no problem getting under the limit of... its like 20k now or something? As long as you retopo manually and u know what you are doing

[white granite]

can they not make something similar like Rockstar games did on the next Gen consoles GTA 5 remake?

Just having a option for high details or alternative, high performance.

[brazen thunder]

thats not how user generated content works

you cant just do real time decimation of models on the spot, especially not on standalone hardware

[white granite]

but we have a safety system already, why not pre-chose some settings on it and block stuff over to many poligons, if the player chose the performance mode but with less details of avatars or if he chosse the detail mode with less performance but more avatar and graphic details shown..

[brazen thunder]

what?

[white granite]

Having a button in the settings.
One is "Best Performance > less Details" and another is: "Most Details > less performance".

[brazen thunder]

so the low, medium, high, ultra toggles already in the ui?

and the safety settings again, already present in the ui

[white granite]

wait, the "low, medium, high, ultra toggles" are for the avatars? I thought it was for the world textures and ambient effects or something.

[brazen thunder]

these toggles already exist on both pc and quest /shrug

[white granite]

Console, phone and standalone decive peoples are lacy. not like PC Gamers that want every setting to adjust by themself.
Thats why most phone games doesen't even have a graphic setting and why console games just have pre-chosen quality setting.
and the new GTA 5 remake on PS5 for example now have a few of options that let the player choose, if he wants more performance, more details or something in the middle?

[brazen thunder]

uh what no haha

[white granite]

I dont get it? thats PC right?
I am talking about quest users and maybe even some other standalone plattforms (my hope will never die)

[brazen thunder]

consoles typically dont have it because games are optimised per device. for games with user generated content, the settings have be to be able to be changed by the user, otherwise itll be a horrible and messy experience.
most often standalone users either dont have the funds or the ability to get a computer properly capable of vrchat at a tolerable framerate.
having 2 simple presets does not change the fact user generated content fucking sucks in terms of optimisation, and that its literally physically impossible to decimate or crunch in real time on standalone

[white granite]

the thing is, Quest 1 will die, thats a fact. and if maybe only 1% of VRChat players have that, why not cancel it or just ignore it and take advantage of the newer devices like Quest 2 and the high performance Quest 3.

[brazen thunder]

these settings already exist, and i dont think the performance cap should be raised for avatars any time soon. people who dont have the funds for a computer should still be able to have a proper enjoyable experience

[white granite]

how is it looking with the hardware detection?

[brazen thunder]

quest 1 has already reached end of life. it ran vrchat barely, and would crash FAR more often than the quest 2. the quest 2 has the single biggest grip on vr, every other headset combined doesnt even make up to it. dropping the quest 2 in favour of a headset way less people will buy is stupid

not to mention vrchat on quest 2 already crashes extremely often and i dont think ive ever personally seen it go above 35fps with new updates

[white granite]

Does the Quest have a the possibility to improve the performance for less avatar details?

[brazen thunder]

elaborate please?

[white granite]

I dont have quest so IDK, I have the Pico instead and its sadly not supported but thats another topic.

I just wonder if quest maybe can also adjust the graphic or the avatar details for having more FPS?

[brazen thunder]

i literally just explained this. please read my above messages

[white granite]

show only peoples with medium or better.

[brazen thunder]

again, this is already a function in the ui on both pc and quest

[white granite]

so why not seperating it? quest 2 can still have the game like it is, while quest 3 gets a bit more freedom with avatar details. if a player does now upload a avatar and he just have 14999polygons. he would count as "medium" for quest 2 users and "good" for quest 3 users.
or having 19999polygons would count as "poor" on quest 2 while it would be only "medium" for quest 3...

[brazen thunder]

because people will obviously care about the quest 3 more, because it has less restrictions

which will cause more issues on quest 2. most of this should be self explanatory

[white granite]

Is that not good, if peoples choose to buy a quest 3 instead of a quest 2? would this not increase the fun and experience?

you still can enjoy your game with a quest 2, but knowing it would be cooler on a quest 3 because it can handle more stuff with its stronger hardware.

[brazen thunder]

the quest 2 literally struggles to hit 30 most the time

anybody who buys a quest 3 should be able to experience at least non nauseating framerates

[white granite]

so why the peoples dont set the safty system to only show "good" ranked users?

while medium and higher is performance blocked.

[brazen thunder]

thats not an option

and i dont think anybody would like to see fallbacks constantly

[white granite]

Is it not ranked by default that medium is the slowest rank you can have while being still as shown?

[brazen thunder]

poor is still shown but can be hidden in ui

[white granite]

but if peoples want more fps, why does they just not set the limit stronger from themself and press show avatar only on peoples they would like to see.

[brazen thunder]

very poor is force disabled until manually overridden

[brazen thunder]

the user shouldnt be forced to compromise

[white granite]

and what would happen, if a users chose to only allow medium and higher avatars to be visible?

[brazen thunder]

atm the way its handled now is the best way, tho i do think vrc needs methods to more easily optimise within unity itself

[brazen thunder]

theyd see only fallbacks for poor and very poor, and most people dont even know about the fallback system

[white granite]

ok ok, its cool like it is.
I just wonder how the quest 3 will influence vrchat.

[brazen thunder]

idealy higher framerates

[white granite]

what do you think about alternative standalones?
I use for example a pico 4 because its a standalone but with a quality thats very close to high end PC VR Headsets.

sadly, it only works with virtual desktop over my PC to play VRChat.

I make all my avatar also quest compatible but I never know how would they really look on ARM Standalone? I can just hope they will see me, like I did.

@brazen thunder will VRchat ever add alternative standalone plattforms to theír games than only quest exclusive?

[brazen thunder]

dunno im not apart of vrc team

[white granite]

I know, but just asking about some rumors in the corner here.

I still can play the game over virtual desktop, but it would be cool the experience the standalone version of the game, without buying a quest just to test my avatars.

[brazen thunder]

usually the performance indicators in the sdk should be enough

[white granite]

YOu dont get it, I am blind about uploading my avatar to ARM.
I never know if they will see me, like I do on x86

[brazen thunder]

you can see in the unity preview on ur pc

[white granite]

IDK

[dawn cove]

on simple/optimized worlds it can hit 60, but if you turn on a HQ mirror in one of those worlds, it usually tanks back down to 35

[dawn cove]

this i do agree with. but i think the first step would be making the settings needed to make the game playable easier to find, or at least put them in the same menu

[tame wyvern]

You know you’re missing the point of enjoying other peoples avatars

[haughty coyote]

Could anyone name me all the tips you can do to optimize a PC avatar for Quest platform?

[dawn cove]

id try #avatar-quest or #quest-optimization for better responses

[dawn cove]

true! but its either enjoy peoples avatars in moderation by only manually enabling the ones of those youre actively speaking to, or suffer the consequences of mobile hardware

[haughty coyote]

Many thanks

[tame wyvern]

This is why they should’ve made two separate apps

[dawn cove]

thats, no

thats a stupid ass idea

[sweet herald]

So uh for any quest users out there, if you forget your pattern what exactly can you do to get back in

[gray kiln]

No 😂

[rough violet]

Yo, any videos or something anyone can reccomend for a guy who’s making his way to pcvr with a gaming laptop and a quest 2? I wanna know how to connect it with a cable and/or airlink

[tame wyvern]

Why not

[gray kiln]

What’s the point in that it’s just useless there’s no point in making a quest version of vrchat when it can all be one game

[gray kiln]

It would also just be a waste of time tbh

[tame wyvern]

Yeah, well they’re ruining my night for not fixing the unexpected crashes, tons and tons of people keep having I was enjoying a show with my friends and then I crashed it. It wasn’t supposed to happen like at all.

[gray kiln]

I’m on rn and I haven’t crashed once so idk

And sometimes those movie worlds just crash quest I hope you know that

Everything on vrc (most) had to be optimized for quest it’s not gonna be perfect if ur gonna whine about it either get a better headset/upgrade to pc or play something else

[young comet]

Hey guys is this the one I need to fix the Quest 2 controller drift?

[rough violet]

It’s what most folks use, yes

[young comet]

It’s a little expensive. Can I use a straw and blow into the 🕹️?

[dawn cove]

theres a huge, HUGE difference between limiting access due to hardware limitations and segregating populations for no real benefit. doing so would cripple VRC as a social app, especially since the vast majority of quest users are kids, youd be turning away adults that are taking their first foray into VR because "wow this is a social app thats notorious for vaguely nsfw content and its got nobody but kids here"

[lime hawk]

yep

i actually need more

[spare raven]

hi my vr is on but i just see a black screen

i can't shut it down or restart either idk what happened

[high reef]

There would be almost zero content, even with quest players far outnumbering pc players, almost all of the content in vrc was made by pc users. If you made quest a completely separate platform then you would be missing almost all of the quest content and pc players would have zero incentive or desire to make anything at all for quest if they never run into a quest user

that’s not what I replied to but go off mobile discord

[tame wyvern]

But I never had this problem before the update a month and more long ago

[high reef]

It’s come down to the VRC Team fighting with Meta for the limited resources on the Quest 2, and as Meta is making the operating system, they have the advantage of being able to end the VRChat task if it is deemed to be using too many resources. While playing VRChat you experience this as a crash.

[scarlet furnace]

I require day time friends

[dawn cove]

its been a. very consistent issue for a long time. cant blame it all on vrc when the quest just isnt a powerful machine

[haughty coyote]

I can't really play on my quest because I have upgraded to the quest 2 yet ŤwŤ

[grave stream]

morning / afternoon / evening everyone.

[unique spear]

hi

[grave stream]

How are you?

[unique spear]

a bit sad but other then that im ok

[grave stream]

I understand that. Take it easy and relax.

[unique spear]

is the vrchat for quest broken or something?

[sweet parrot]

not for me idk

[unique spear]

i cant even play it ever since the update from after chrismas it keeps crashing

[grave stream]

I've had no issues on my quest. I have custom safety settings and have avatars turned off for every trust rank.

[unique spear]

i cant go to any worlds without it crashing

[grave stream]

If they are busy worlds you can try what I suggested, see if you see an improvement .

[unique spear]

i do invit only but i cant even join the one i made

[grave stream]

Weird.

[unique spear]

its stresses me out

[tame wyvern]

Wait, how can I not blame them if it’s not the quest fault to begin with I could go three hours before the end of November last year and not crash ones so what’s the problem now?

[primal jay]

For some people VRC crashing is fixed by factory resetting, so I would at least put some of the blame on Quest updates, which certainly aren't known for being stable nor acting the same for everyone because of how they roll out features/changes seemingly randomly to random people.

[tame wyvern]

I loss all my stuff if I do that

All my data will be gone forever so there’s gotta be another way

[primal jay]

Nowadays I'd imagine that most games would have implemented cloud saves, so you should at least check whether it would actually be an issue first, think you can find out by checking the 3 dot menu and settings for every game.

It isn't actually certain that it will fix it, but it is literally the only thing I know that has fixed it for people.

Other thing probably being a Quest update.

Which probably accomplishes the same.

[grave stream]

You won't lose anything vrc related. Just back up your photos to the app and re-download any games. Won't lose a whole lot.

[tame wyvern]

I do t know how to backstuff up what if I didn’t have to do this before why would I have to do this now?

[grave stream]

You can say that all you want
But you're not gonna get anywhere like that.

[tame wyvern]

All I asked was to get help how to back up apps data and pics and videos why are u being a jerk to me

[lime hawk]

Fr

Their just asking a question

[primal jay]

You either plug it into a computer (and give permissions inside the headset that pop up) or use the phone app.
Former, you just find the folder that stores it and copy it over.
Latter I think is just asking it to download it to the phone.

[fading shadow]

Everything should already be backed up mate, you're good

I just factory reset recently and had all my apps and stuff, just not any sideloaded games though

[primal jay]

Should clarify that I meant for specifically backing up video and photos.
They might be automatically backup to your phone, but I wouldn't know.

[tame wyvern]

I don’t have a pc

[primal jay]

Download to phone then.

[tame wyvern]

I’m gonna figure something out

Ok I don’t know how to download it on the phone

[primal jay]

Should be a gallery somewhere in the "Meta Quest" app

Then there will likely be a 3 dot menu in some corner that will allow you to download that.

Best case there is a "download all" button, but I have never used this functionality so have no idea.

[haughty coyote]

hey i am new to vr chat and i never made any friends before in a virtual world but I do know that friends can go a long way and can have a long lasting friendship whether in a real world or virtual world my vr chat name is: WifiFelix I never made friends in real life because a lot of people made fun of my autism. About me: i love playing video games, I play the harmonica, I tell funny jokes, I tell stories, I play bowling, I am kind and funny and I like making new friends along the way

[lime hawk]

Mf you said that a month ago

[high reef]

I thought I recognized it

[novel hedge]

U have to go to files (I think) in ur headset and it should bring into ur photos, on the top right there should be a cloud icon, select that and it'll sync to your phone and it'll pop up in the oculus app in the gallery

[haughty coyote]

anybody wanna play questcraft?

[left hearth]

what are the best ocoolus quest vrchat bar games? (pour your own drinks etc)

[lime hawk]

Scam most likely

[lime hawk]

“Ocoolus”

[grave stream]

Only spelling I'll accept going forward.

[lime hawk]

Lmao

[left hearth]

what are the best ocolus quest vrchat bar games? (pour your own drinks etc)

happy now-?

damn

[grave stream]

Lol.

[haughty coyote]

Drinking Night

Also question, how do you make your avatar sit?

[dapper sable]

Sit with FBT or alternatively you can add the gogoloco asset pack to your avatar.

[haughty coyote]

The what now? I dont have fbt

[dapper sable]

If you have a pc and have your avatars file. There is a package you can add to the Avatar through Unity called GoGoLoco and it gives you the options to sit/squat/lay down @haughty coyote

[lime hawk]

Wow you don’t have to be mad

It was just a joke

[ancient lintel]

I'm baking lightmaps for a Quest-specific world; is there any recommended settings for generation?

[dawn cove]

physically bringing the quest closer to the boundry floor will also change you to a sitting mode on any avatar that doesnt have GogoLoco installed, but youll move slower this way

[dawn cove]

try #quest-development or #world-quest, they may have better answers for you

[ancient lintel]

ah

[old sequoia]

My game keeps crashing and then kicking me out of my party with my friend

usually after like 10 minutes of being in the world

idk if this is problems with my quest but every other game seems fine

[cursive crescent]

That happens to me sometimes

Or i crash trying to join a world

[candid zodiac]

ls media and movie and chill wont even ket me in them for more than 30 seconds. I used to be able to join them all the time but as of last week they wont work😭 anime heaven works fine but i cant watch my normal shows there obviously

[versed juniper]

hey i need suggestions i have been looking for a good cheap upgrade for my quest 2 face cover and i found this on amazon should i go for it?

[high reef]

A good place to go is a website called VRCover

[old sequoia]

Do you know a way to fix it?

[cursive crescent]

Sadly i don't know how

[old sequoia]

Ah alr

[jolly chasm]

Hi

[quaint sequoia]

Any quest users having trouble logging in?

[grave stream]

Just logged off, no more issues than usual.

[versed mirage]

Anybody down to hangout or somethin

[grave stream]

[strong fulcrum]

Is it just me thats getting this message

[whole burrow]

anybody play the zombies game in vrchst and wanna play or just hang out I'm quiet though

[tame wyvern]

You still don’t fix the problem they are literally doing this at everybody else’s expense and many of you were here. I’m going to say this right now I have been bribed by them. I don’t know how much you’re being bribed. The money is not worth it for them trying to fix the issue that has been going on for over a month and more

[gray kiln]

Tf what money you talking bout stfu 😂

[dawn cove]

fucking lmao

[gray kiln]

Sorry for the ping but @tame wyvern what money are you talking about 💀

[final oasis]

No, I am too
I've brought it up here before too, and I was about to do it again but i saw you say something

It's super annoying, it's happened quite a few times to me and it's genuinely angering me now.

[strong fulcrum]

It only happened when i logged in at work

I got scared i was hacked or banned for some odd reason

[final oasis]

It's been happening to me no matter what, and I haven't even logged out in days, maybe a week at this point

The only solution i have is to wait it out, and from what I've searched and gathered it takes about four hours for the message to go away

It happens both on the game, quest and pc, AND on the website, no matter what network your on
It's even logged me out just to display that message

[strong fulcrum]

Well dont change ur wifi or itll log you out

[final oasis]

I haven't
The first few times I had exited the app or my headset died and gotten back on a few minutes later and I was logged out, and it displayed that message

I just tried logging in for the first time on my new phone through the website, and it showed the message, so that's why I'm here now

[haughty coyote]

Hello

[novel hedge]

Allo

[hidden bramble]

How is everyone doing today

[tame wyvern]

The money vrc staff is paying most of u to act like you’re in denial and lie for them and act like there’s no problem when they’re really is

[gray kiln]

I’m not being paid tf

[gray kiln]

I wish I was

I’m a fucking child I don’t want money from them

[fading shadow]

Man I want some money

[gray kiln]

Same

[languid star]

[haughty coyote]

Oop

[nimble juniper]

Hey, could anyone help me with this? I keep getting disconnected from the game when I have good wifi, not even crashing it says "Vrchat has stop responding" then reloads the world i was in, anyone know about this?

[haughty coyote]

Not sure how to fix it but it might be something to do with your cache

It use to do the same to me and it just stop after i did that

[gray kiln]

@tame wyvern what gave you the idea of them paying us?

[gray kiln]

And just to say I never denied that you were crashing I get that ur crashing but it isn’t for everyone me and some friends haven’t crashed so it’s either ur headset or you just got shitty wifi

Or many other things

[desert junco]

anyone here managed to use virtual desktop since the eac introduction ?

[desert junco]

most likely your ping to the world, i used to get that when i was on mobile data instead of wifi

[tame wyvern]

All right now I’m blaming it on world creators all right I don’t just crash unexpectedly. This never happened before the end of November of last year.

[tame wyvern]

First of all the headset, nor the Wi-Fi was the problem before I never crossed unexpectedly before then

[gray kiln]

Ok I get that

But no ones being paid

Ok?

I’ve never talked to a single person in the vrc team before to be honest, I’m jsut in this server for updates

And just to talk and help people

[tame wyvern]

See that’s all you need to say

[gray kiln]

You just gotta stop complaint

Complaining*

And blaming people for everything first of y’all ur blaming the vrc staff for everything and now ur saying they paying us 💀

[tame wyvern]

Fine I will only complain and blame the right people

I’m sorry for the misconceptions

[iron ether]

what the actual heck🤓

[haughty coyote]

guys im becoming black

[gray kiln]

😮

[candid flume]

is there a way to get around people avatar crashing

[old sequoia]

I think the only way is to turn on that safe mode thing

[lime hawk]

What

What does this mean

He’s unbleaching

[fresh cargo]

Anyone have any issues with their microphone recently? I’m using a Quest Pro on v48 and can’t tell if the microphone is a Quest firmware issue, an issue exclusive to my hardware, or a VRChat issue.

[desert junco]

I think because the quest pro is new, it's kinda bugging .. have you tried fine tuning in vrc ?

[fresh cargo]

Well it’s an on and off issue

According to people around me, the quality and volume just drop dramatically randomly

Similar to how ‘Pringle Mic’ used to happen if you played Quest VRC back when that was a thing

[desert junco]

That's probably a vrc thing then

Just got to wait for their next update and hope it's fixed

[fresh cargo]

That’s what I’m suspecting as well, but I don’t have a sure fire way to test

Might spend a day on some other social app and see if the issue occurs there

[desert junco]

If it helps, I don't have mic issues and I use quest 2

[fresh cargo]

Yeah I’ve had several Quest 2s and not had this issue

[desert junco]

And because quest pro needs more coding for like tracking and whatnot and it's newer it's basically a new app altogether

Which if I'm honest, VRC need to bang they head together and come up with a way to stop alienating the quest users..

[fresh cargo]

That should have no bearing over microphone input

[desert junco]

Yeah but everything brokens 😂

[haughty coyote]

Does anyone know how to emote on pc

[stoic arch]

Is Virtual Desktop okay with VRC EAC now?

[primal jay]

It hasn't changed since that update, you still cannot play the Oculus PC version, but why would you even do that if you are using Virtual Desktop, it directly connects to SteamVR and has to do a hacky thing to play Oculus PC games.

So it has been fine and was never not fine.

Just play the SteamVR version, which you should be if you are using Virtual Desktop anyway.

[charred sable]

Not sure if this is a good place to ask but does anybody know if you can hook up full body trackers to a quest standalone without the use of any sort of desktop?

[primal jay]

Sony Mocopi can, but requires phone, only available in Japan for now and tracking quality isn't that good.

SlimeVR can as well, but running the "server" on headset or phone is finicky, far easier to run on any kind of computer (mac, raspberry pi, any windows), tracking quality is better though.

And those are the only ones I know about right now.

[lime hawk]

You can ship it to America I thinkkk

Not 100% sure about that

[lime hawk]

But yes like Mack said you can download the slime vr thing on you pc or laptop and it will run it for you on quest standalone

Don’t ask me how to do it tho

[jagged trench]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbD9YwQ1wds

[fresh cargo]

I’m sure it’s vital to the headset in some way, but does anyone know what the wire sticking out of the head strap specifically connects?

[autumn haven]

stinky

[wet vine]

How are y’all?

[storm dock]

Hey can anyone tell me how to fix this one problem that I’ve been having for like a year to where you can’t see any notifications at all I have to completely get off the app then go back on for me to see the invite sometimes that doesn’t even work is there a way to fix it?

[wet vine]

I think it’s a notification problem within the headset settings.

[storm dock]

What do you mean?

[wet vine]

It can either be the fact you might have your headset on do not disturb mode, meaning you won’t get notifications but they will happen. Or you have your device notifications settings off.

Either one of those or a headset malfunction.

If it isn’t one of those then idk

[storm dock]

No no no I mean VRchat

[storm dock]

With VRchat I’ve had this problem for so long but idk how to fix it

[wet vine]

Oh you meant in VRChat

Oh mb

Yea than i don’t have a clue, if I find something I’ll let you know

[dawn cove]

that looks like it could either be part of the speakers, touch detection for passthrough, or both

[dawn cove]

notifications can be hidden by a VRC setting, make sure that your popup notifications arent set to hidden. i believe its under comfort and safety, but i may be wrong. unless you mean system popups, which i cant help you with

[fresh cargo]

I did some more searching and literally the only thing stored in the back portion of the headset is the battery, so that cable is for power delivery from the battery to the rest of the internals

[haughty coyote]

anyone got death or puss in boot avatar

[dawn cove]

ah, im only familiar with the quest 2

hard to tell what headset that is from that angle

[fresh cargo]

I just decided to watch a tear down video to see if it was explained lol

[fresh cargo]

It’s a Quest Pro

[dawn cove]

ah! thats important context

[haughty coyote]

anyone?

[dawn cove]

try #avatar-search-old since this channel has not really anything to do with that... even if avatar search is useless

[fresh cargo]

Sorry I thought that would’ve been a little more apparent considering the Quest 2 is white and the Quest 1 doesn’t have a built in strap lol

[dawn cove]

not everyone is intimately familiar with expensive hardware thats far outside non-enthusiasts priceranges

for all i knew it could be a pico 🤷‍♂️

[haughty coyote]

nobody is talking there

and there is 62k ppl online

[dawn cove]

ah! youre the impatient arse. consider giving it more than 20 minutes

[haughty coyote]

affirmative

[fresh cargo]

That’s fair but why would I be posting in the Quest channel xD

If VRChat standalone were on Pico I would definitely have one of those instead lol

[dawn cove]

ive seen dumber

considering the main demographic of this channel is children

[fresh cargo]

That’s fair lol

Despite having a more than capable PC, I just prefer playing on Quest standalone and creating content for it. Making stuff with limitations honestly fuels my creativity to think outside the box

[lime hawk]

True

[dawn cove]

thats a good outlook, i appreciate that

[lime hawk]

How goes everyone

[fresh cargo]

I’m pretty good

Contemplating porting and optimizing my favorite Xenoblade 2 Blade for Quest actually

Need to fix bone rotations, add back faces to some parts of the mesh, dissolve loops down to 20k tris, atlas the UV maps, etc

Also the blend shapes are stored as separate meshes, so I need to turn those back into blend shapes and delete the excess meshes

[lime hawk]

Good good

I’m trying to get fbt with a phone camera working

[fresh cargo]

Ah but before that I do have a model for an indie dev I gotta work on

[lime hawk]

You go do that

[fresh cargo]

Neat, I ordered some slime trackers and am curious as to how those will work

[lime hawk]

I’m going to order slime or mocopi eventually

I just need to make the money at work

[fresh cargo]

I just had some leftover money from Christmas so figured why not right

[lime hawk]

I spent all my Christmas money on starwars stuff😭

I’m such a nerd

[fresh cargo]

Well now I’m making money on modeling for game devs, so hey college wasn’t a complete waste of time lmao

[lime hawk]

Lol

I’m honestly lucky where I live

I’m 14 and the law accepts that age to work

[fresh cargo]

Likewise, I’m somehow on track to graduate without student debt and have plenty of opportunities for work due to connections

[lime hawk]

Nice

[rough violet]

Forgive me, questers

With the acquisition of a vr ready Alienware laptop, I’m moving on to pc gaming and pcvr

[dull tusk]

Who has an Oculus headset or a Meta headset? Mine is Oculus bc it has the Oculus logo on the front

[manic turtle]

How do I stop my quest 2 from crashing so much

[honest monolith]

yo

[jolly chasm]

You don't

[haughty coyote]

are you turning on everybodies skin

[dawn cove]

stop manually enabling too manyavatars, which increases the load exponentially on an already strained system. find the setting to hide users by number and proximity, under the small options menu, and jack those numbers down- i advise hitting the button to allow manual override via enabling avatars the normal way, so you can see the few youre talking to and ignore the ones you arent

[obtuse dove]

Hello! I dont know if this is the right channel to ask this here but my friend is having a problem with their Quest 2 in vrchat, they cannot see any avatars at all and only able to see fallbacks avatars even with quest compatible ones, they told me it showed up a red exclamation icon, which led me to think it had to do with Performance stuff, I tried everything, Poorly optimized option, Max avatar download size option, Dynamic bones option, Safety configs, none of them worked.
So I'm here to ask if anyone has more knowledge and might know where the problem comes from, thank you in advance! :]

[obtuse dove]

Okay ive made some investigations, and im currently as a "excellent performance" any platform compatible avatar on my pc
but they're telling me, for them, it's a "medium performance" avatar

So there's like a notch difference on performance avatars between them and I.
for an example ill see a "Good performance" avatar and I believe, if they were able to see it, as a "Very poor performance" avatar
(also im sorry if thats not really clear, im not english and trying my best to explain )

Could someone maybe explain why is there this notch difference in VRchat avatars performance with Quest 2 and pc vrheadsets compatible?
and also if there's a way to fix it?

[primal jay]

Quest headsets are using what is essentially phone processors.
There is a world of difference between phone processors and PC processors.

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-performance-ranking-system

What you see on PC is not what Quest users see and vice versa.
The content made for Quest can be entirely different from PC.

There is no way to see Quest content on PC and no way to see PC content on Quest.

[obtuse dove]

Thanks!
Im aware about the only quest avatars and only pc avatar compatible stuff, but as an example, for an "any platform avatar" (compatible with quest & pc)
is there a way to sort of "force" it to show up?
Ive heard about this Show avatar option but I have no idea how it works now with the new GUI

[primal jay]

"any platform avatar" just means it has a Quest version and PC version, it isn't a separate third category.

But in regards to forcing the showing of an avatar (which wasn't changed with the new UI), they can do that by opening their handheld VRC menu (single press VRC menu button) and using their other hand (that now has a laser) to click on person whose avatar is hidden, the handheld menu will now give you option about that person, one of them is an eye, crossed out eye and a shield (Show, Hide, Hide using safety settings).

[obtuse dove]

I see, thank you so much for the informations!

[coral granite]

Hello !

Has anyone successfully used Hand Tracking?

It's been 40 minutes that I'm on the test world, I still haven't managed to advance or anything else, but in the menu it works very well, I think there is a *** so that it doesn't work in the game but very well out of the game or in the game menu ....

Is that it takes a special character, how can you help me, my room is very well lit, that this game or that does not work except very nice menu I will play in the menu hahahahaha

- If need be, I'm even ready to upload 40 minutes of videos while struggling to advance and fart a cable_

[rocky forge]

has anyone tried the quest 1 with airlink? is it good?

[manic turtle]

Thx, will try these the next time I hop on

[tribal lotus]

I play Vrchat on quest and I can’t make avatar sounds work, is that a bug?

[gray kiln]

Avatar sounds don’t work on quest the people who make it work on quest aren’t supposed to do it it’s against TOS and can get banned cuz it does something with the SDK

[flint spindle]

Hey

So like I was in notimetotalk and like 10 girls added me and no boys, I’m so confused on why

No, I’m just confused cause girls don’t like me irl

I was told it’s my voice but I think my voice is awful

True true, I’ll stay girless throughout highschool

Even if it’s my last year

True, I find it hard but vr is helping me get out of my comfort zone so

[jaunty elm]

hey everyone, is anyone having trouble with the nextnex youtube link converter recently??

[bold wasp]

Vr anyone? I’m just watching anime

[bold wasp]

Sure

Just add me since I’m tryna watch some anime and eat some popcorn frlll

@rotund loom

[dawn cove]

thats one i hadnt heard yet

[gray kiln]

Yeah 😂

Can we be friends yet

[bold wasp]

Sure I’m down

[flint spindle]

Didn’t mean to ping you sorry but cool

[bold wasp]

Lmao

[flint spindle]

Can I dm you my user?

[jolly chasm]

Can we be friends 🥺 or does anyone else wanna be

[lime hawk]

C u m

[bold wasp]

Anyone tryna play?

Just chill and watch movies?

[white granite]

How much better is the play experience on quest 2, after the clockboost update?

[fiery shuttle]

i have a question

is anyone getting kicked out of vr chat 10-20 mins into the game? or is it just me

[bold wasp]

I am

[fiery shuttle]

ok

[bold wasp]

I started playing after that update so good ig

[fiery shuttle]

is it because of the new update?

[bold wasp]

Maybe, or just pc characters buggin the game

[devout solar]

Yeah I keep crashing every time I go into Black Cat or any populated server

[primal jay]

It was a marginal improvement in an area that isn't the bottleneck (RAM and CPU).
I doubt it did anything to help at all.

[white granite]

do you think the quest 3 will have a better time in VRChat?

[primal jay]

Rumors say it will use a significantly faster chip, so presumably it will have a more powerful CPU, that will definitely help dealing with all the logic stuff.

But whether it will have more RAM or not is not something I've seen any rumors about, but hopefully it does. It is highly unlikely for anyone with a Quest Pro to be testing standalone VRChat much, but its 12GB of RAM should help mitigate crashing.

But the Quest 3's performance also hinges on VRChat not lifting the limitations that already exist, if they loosen restrictions too much then it will just feel the same as the Quest 2.

[unique spear]

someone said vrchats getting removed for quest

[white granite]

Only Quest 1 or every Quest?

[unique spear]

idk i was told

[quasi birch]

sounds like something to take with a grain of salt, "nothing is confirmed until it's confirmed" and all that

[unique spear]

if so why would they do it

[thorny parrot]

I think the person who told you that either had bad info or was trying to mess with you. Don't believe stuff like that unless you hear it from an official source like the vrchat website

[haughty coyote]

maybe referring to VeryPoor avis maybe being removed in the near future, like the docs say, its pretty much the same fate>.<

[olive herald]

It’s not letting me subscribe to vrchat plus what do I do ?

[graceful furnace]

You can add me if you want

[dawn cove]

this is probably a bad Telephone effect, referring to meta support being dropped for the Quest 1 and those users not being able to play in a year or so

[terse gazelle]

Guys

Why can't I invite my freinds?

Dm me if u know a fix

[wet vine]

@terse gazelle Either they are offline. Depends on your world status. Or it’s just a glitch and you might need to restart your game

[vocal flume]

I migrated from the quest to the quest Pro and I'm seeing significantly less crashing than I had with the original quest. Still getting the annoying freezes every now and then but much less crashes

[opaque panther]

Yo yo yo

[dawn cove]

upgrading from a $300 to a $1200 piece of hadware do come with better hardware lmao

[vocal flume]

True 😂

[sweet loom]

Hi, I would coming from altspace to vrchat. Is there a plan to increase to upload size for quest worlds. Altspace has limit 1GB and vrchat only 100MB. My worlds around 300MB

[unborn flare]

World size limit used to be 50MB not too long time ago. There is no way they're gonna increase it any time soon.

[primal jay]

The reason behind the Quest crashing a ton seems directly linked with how much memory is taken up.

Because crunch compression can hide the true size of textures when they are in memory, VRChat either has to block the use of it, or assume worst case scenario, they have chosen the latter.

So even with only 100MB, you could probably fill up all the RAM that VRChat has available to itself on Quest (Quest 2 has 6GB and VRChat is only getting a portion of it, no idea how much).

[sweet loom]

So how altspace do it, my biggest world was near 800 MB and work without problems

[primal jay]

Been a long time since I even looked at Altspace, do they allow custom avatars and crunch compression?

The strict limit is very much because of how there can be 40-80 people in a single instance and how each avatar on Quest, while limited to only 10MB, can with crunch compression can quite easily be more like 50MB when uncompressed.
So 2GB taken up only by avatars, in addition to the uncompressed size of the world.

I wish I could find out how much of the 6GB of RAM is available to developers but I cannot find it.
At most I would assume 4GB, but since that 6GB is shared between CPU and GPU it might not even be that much.

[sweet loom]

So means vrchat compressed other way and my worlds would be smaller in vrchat

I don't understand this crunch compression

Please explain

[primal jay]

Depends on if Altspace allowed the use of texture compression if it will be lower or not, or if it did the smart thing and only reported the uncompressed size, because I would guess that 300MB is what a lot of sizeable worlds take up when uncompressed here on VRChat.

And Crunch compression is just what Unity calls its texture compression and it is entirely optional, but you do loose detail and most use it to skirt around upload size limits (10MB per avatar on Quest, 100MB for worlds on Quest), it also causes stutters when uncompressing, so that worth to keep in mind, not really an issue with worlds, but I imagine it causes higher loading times.

If it isn't textures that are taking up the space then that is a very different matter. Videos and music is usually streamed in instead of being included with the world.

[vocal flume]

https://aussieguy92.com/wiki/altspace-101/tips-for-improving-performance-in-your-vr-worlds/

Looks like that's information about all spaces limits

[dense zealot]

how do i upscale the graphics in quest 2?
whenever i try to upscale or downscale the graphics, it always gets stuck to mobile

[fading shadow]

You don't

[haughty coyote]

heyaa

[primal jay]

If Quest version of the avatar is setup for it, then yes.

[vocal flume]

I don't know do they have face tracking enabled in vrchat on the quest Pro yet? As I haven't been able to tell and it didn't prompt me to enable that functionality so I assume not yet

Pretty sure eye tracking is not enabled either

[primal jay]

Quest Pro's eye and face tracking does not work on standalone VRChat.

The only way to do face tracking at all on VRChat is using OSC and the community made OSC program called VRCFT (VRCFaceTracking).

And the people on its discord figured out how to stream the face tracking data to VRCFT so it can be used in the PC version when using ALVR (open source Airlink/Virtual Desktop)

[vocal flume]

Okay so you need to be tethered to a PC to use face tracking. And ALVR instead of virtual desktop?

What about the Oculus link cable does the pass through eye tracking and face tracking work with VR CFT when using tethered cable

[primal jay]

Yes

[primal jay]

In theory, but I don't think link/airlink supports it yet and someone would need to make a plugin to make it work with VRCFT.

[vocal flume]

Ahh ok

[primal jay]

"Meta" has talked about adding face+eye tracking passthrough (through link/airlink)
But as of right now, even hand tracking is unavailable for any other use than strictly development.

[vocal flume]

So the toggles in the Oculus app for enabling face tracking and eye tracking through link cable are basically useless unless you're doing development that stinks

And virtual desktop does not pass the needed information only ALVR does huh I guess that's yet another application that I'll need to install when I get a chance

[primal jay]

I honestly do not know (nor have much of need to keep up to date), but are those toggles already there?

[vocal flume]

They've been there since launch

Well launch of the pro

[primal jay]

Huh.
Must be locked to dev then, considering how the VRCFT discord isn't making use of it.

[vocal flume]

Yeah probably locked to Dev then

I just know that I enabled them as soon as I saw them and haven't played around with them

[primal jay]

There isn't any standard for face or eye tracking and the Oculus SDK doesn't really support any of it, so the Virtual Desktop dev isn't adding support for it (maybe later).

[vocal flume]

And besides wireless is much more fun than wired but I do need to get myself a ethernet connected router as my computer is connected via Wi-Fi to a router and that is not fast enough

[primal jay]

Double hop wireless VR is not nice.

[vocal flume]

I mean it's good enough for virtual desktop but just barely. Oculus airlink forget about it way too nausea-inducing

Wonder if I can get myself a little access point that plugs into my computer's ethernet and bridges the wireless networks

[primal jay]

I think that might work, best to ask the VD discord, since they are quite accustomed to weird setups.

[vocal flume]

I used to be hardwired with cat5e but unfortunately the run died would have to redo the run and it's not in a convenient location to say the least.

[primal jay]

Feel like I have heard of several people with similar setups

[vocal flume]

Damn cable got snagged on something in the walls I think I put a nail through it by accident.

Yeah redoing ethernet runs is never fun that and my little switch that I had died. The joys of packet collisions

[floral lagoon]

Can they please make more avatar public world 🙂

[limpid yew]

I have a question. What are some reccommendations for link cables so i can link my quest to my pc but also be comfortable lol. The one i have is too short and it tugs me when i move to far away

[haughty coyote]

Anyone else randomly crashing?

[thorny sphinx]

Does quest need some kind of Parent Constraint to hold particles?

[primal jay]

It is a commonly reported issue amon Quest users.

Show less avatars is basically all you can do.

[vocal flume]

The official cable is nice and long but even that tugs on you at times

[sweet loom]

but can be bigger , uploaded world <1GB is possible

[cerulean oriole]

is vrchat down for enyone else?

[ancient knot]

It is for me

[solemn tangle]

cant join friends in a world, says theyre there when they actually arent

[toxic vapor]

thank god im not the only one

[solemn tangle]

seems most pc players are fine, 😭

[floral lagoon]

Why i not connected to VRchat ?

It not let join world

Time out

[tribal juniper]

Same thing happening to me

[waxen ingot]

servers are down :/

[dawn talon]

Can anyone get in yet?

[fossil obsidian]

Sadly no

[haughty coyote]

this game frustrates me sometimes

[waxen ingot]

honestly fr

[tall ridge]

It just dropped for a little bit

[vocal flume]

For some reason I wasn't able to connect to VR chat via my mobile hotspot on my phone but I was able to connect to it via the truck stops Wi-Fi so I'm guessing they're still having issues and my phone uses a different ISP than the truck stop probably

Then again it's also possible that Verizon no likey VR chat via 4G LTE

[signal jacinth]

Wassup guys

How’s everybody doin tonight?

[whole burrow]

I'm looking for ppl to play with I'm a oculus player 16 but lime finder new avatars

[haughty coyote]

is it working now

[charred nova]

Time to hop on the good ol vrchat try and make some friends today

[rocky forge]

hewooo, this morning i played through airlink but now airlink is not working anymore

any idea?

[wanton light]

Is anyone else quest kicking them out every 15 mins

[dry lichen]

True, but dirty

[grave stream]

Hello everyone.

[lime hawk]

Hello

[hallow gulch]

Sleepy bean here looking for a cuddle buddy to sleep with hehe. Nothing lewd... Just sleep. My DMS are open for anyone and I am bi

[haughty coyote]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354545835156?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vzcu-ucbtm-&sssrc=2524149&ssuid=vzcu-ucbtm-&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[haughty coyote]

Hello hello.

[haughty coyote]

I did something

There's this menu that popped up for Debug on the Arthur Morgan Avatar

And I can't use the avatar menu, neither the interactions

And it won't go away like it's some kind of virus

Please help idk what I did

The debug menu won't turn off

[bronze echo]

I never talk in this server 👍

[cedar pollen]

So I'm here to ask a dumb quest 2 question

Will the quest to work for games like vrchat and beat saber off of public internet? Like hypothetically speaking if I was to use on mcdonald's, Walmart, etc guest Wi-Fi. Will it work

I want to bring my quest to work but I don't have a really good mobile hotspot so I would use the stores public guest Wi-Fi

But sometimes the guest Wi-Fi doesn't work for mobile games

[sharp sorrel]

Quick question, has controllerless play with quest2 hand tracking been implemented in main branch of the game or is it still in beta branch

[fringe tundra]

Hewo

[dull steppe]

Doze anyone ells losing frames on there Quest2 tow like 11fps even on 120hrz because I am and its a pain ?

[novel hedge]

It's in the main branch, not beta anymore

[haughty coyote]

in theory it would work, but the problem you will run into is wifi strength and speed. the wifi connection needs to be able to be fast enough to support it. I ran into this problem when I took my quest 2 to a hotel, and even though I was able to connect, I was not able to really play anything.

[haughty coyote]

Trying to connect to vrchat in general, can't even enter my own world. Says it failed to authenticate with real time servers?

Lmao me and a friend of mine got harassed by a vr pedo

[jovial lintel]

finally got my new headset one full year after my old one broke - i gotta get used to the controls again sob

[elder mural]

Hand tracking got so much better! Like I can clap without my characters arm spazzing out 🥲

[floral lagoon]

Do anyone know how to fixed joystick

[zinc hamlet]

[vocal flume]

It's in the main branch as is OSC apparently

[drifting cave]

yeah sure add me back!!

[reef bronze]

🤨

[icy moss]

Geez y'all get any sleep??? Awake at 3am my time

[haughty coyote]

Sleep? whats that

[icy moss]

lol

I'm lonely rn 😭

[haughty coyote]

I get that

[icy moss]

My gf is sleep sleep

[haughty coyote]

imagine having a gf and still being lonely.

nvm. i dont get that, lol.

[red mulch]

How's y'all doin

[haughty coyote]

Not bad. yourself?

[red mulch]

Eh. Not to bad ig

Thx for asking

[haughty coyote]

Good. Hopefully you keep it that way.

[red mulch]

I hope so

Ight well y'all have a good one I'm out.✌️

[haughty coyote]

That's they name

[grave stream]

Lol seriously.

[signal jacinth]

Good

[bold wasp]

Good afternoon y’all

[loud socket]

Is there a way to use one handed controls but keep both controllers on

I have really bad stick drift one one of my controllers

[zinc hamlet]

You can use wd-40 contact cleaner to get rid of drift, it’s only temporary but it works for a couple weeks and all you have to do is spray it again

But it has to be contact cleaner not regular, regular will destroy your controller

[loud socket]

I do not have any of that

I might be able to get some next month

[zinc hamlet]

It’s like 7 bucks on Amazon it’s 100% worth it

You save a lot on either paying to repair a controller or buy a new one

You also save time on sending it in

If you are gonna but it it has to say contact cleaner, you do not want to use regular

[loud socket]

Lemme see if Walmart has it

Or TSC

[zinc hamlet]

Home Depot also has it

[loud socket]

Yeah

[haughty coyote]

Vr sisters screen shot also bc we didn't know that until they randomly said they gonna use my sister's fluids and he isn't gonna need lotion

Mind you we both minors the guys like 18 19

~Remi Despair~

That's The name

[scenic cypress]

guys does someone of you know how to stop the oculus app and SteamVR auto-start when I launch a game? i'd like to play a game in non-vr mode from Epic Launcher, but if I open the game, it launches both SteamVR and Oculus

[fringe tundra]

I'll be friends, I need sum :3

I'm a bit lonely

[gray kiln]

👋

[lime hawk]

wha

[quaint tree]

Anyone wanna play lmk 18 plus pleaee thanks

[haughty coyote]

Figure it out? you might just need to turn off the settings of each that has them start up on log in.

[fringe vault]

Anyone wanna hop on and hang out?

[floral lagoon]

vr controller not connected to my headset

[haughty coyote]

Quest 2? Unpair them from the phone app and follow the instructions to reconnect

[hushed thistle]

I’m having troubles finding the setting for the grip for finger tracking in quest. The update said it would be in accessibility but I see nothing.

[vast galleon]

I can not get onto my vrc ac cus I did not make my vrc ac with a gmail

[versed umbra]

ayooooo

[versed umbra]

Wow tough crowd

[undone ember]

are they gonna do updates to oculus?

for vr chat

i keep crashing

[zinc hamlet]

that's just standalone quest trying to run vrc with poor avatar's shown in an unoptimized world

[sage summit]

can i play vrc on Quest 1?

[haughty coyote]

Sure. Can you do it well? Debatable, but doable.

[haughty coyote]

#vrchat-support

[night night]

Does anyone know how to make the controllers stop ending up in your face when they go to sleep from inactivity?

[haughty coyote]

Doubt there is a solution, other than to use hand tracking instead. Just the nature of how the controllers are feeding information to the headset.

[night night]

It's weird though. They used to just sleep at the position they were originally.

[primal jay]

Turn off hand tracking, haven't checked whether you only need to turn off the automatic or it fully.

I don't know if they ever actually go to sleep with hand tracking turned off.

[haughty coyote]

The issue you described has always been a thing for me. So I couldn't say for sure.

[primal jay]

As said, try turning off hand tracking, or at least the automatic switching.

[haughty coyote]

I've had it disabled for sometime now with no change. But I've never let it bother me.

[primal jay]

Huh.
I originally thought it was caused by me getting Quest Pro controllers, but no, they don't seemingly sleep unless the headset tells them to when it shuts off, if I keep hand tracking turned off.

Maybe the controllers aren't allowed to sleep in Virtual Desktop.

[haughty coyote]

I have pro controllers as well and they sleep in standalone.

[loud socket]

Im going to cry istg

I got signed out and every time I try to sign back in it says my information is invalid

[bold wasp]

LSM anyone

[haughty coyote]

how do i merge my steam desktop vrchat account to my meta quest 2?
i cant find the link token

[open flint]

hey

i looking someone who dose modeling

for vr chat

[bold wasp]

How does that work

[patent flame]

do someone now a possibility that something does i crash all the time on all my quest game

[fading shadow]

People's Grammar here isn't the best...

[gray kiln]

Wtf is ur grammar and if ur asking what to do to stop crashing is turn ur safety settings up all the way or do a custom so that anyone but ur friends avatars show etc.

[haughty coyote]

Not everyone speak English, it aint no big deal

[hushed timber]

random thing, but does anyone have any experience deleting just enough oculus app files so all thats left is the software required for oculus wired link?

is this the right channel to ask? lol

[haughty coyote]

how do i merge my steam desktop vrchat account to my meta quest 2?
i cant find the link token

[iron surge]

@haughty coyote pls unblock me

I’m sunny

[drifting cave]

any new friends?
just add me!

[undone ember]

Vr Fix the oculus crash please it’s annoying to crash every 5 min

[hazy basin]

E

[haughty coyote]

Damn.

[grand basalt]

add me i might give vrc+ out

user is Sarskii

[hot jetty]

This has to do with PCVR but idk where else to ask. I use Air Link with a router hooked up to my PC via ethernet. For some reason after unplugging and moving things my PC will no longer recognize my quest 2 on the same network. It's able to connect to the wireless network but my PC won't show up.

When diagnosing the connection on my PC it said it doesn't have a valid ip, but it worked automatically last time.

[void panther]

ㅋㅋㅋ

[fading shadow]

Saying "boys" only sounds a bit weird🤔 might just be me though

[frail junco]

Where would I report a bug?

[somber patrol]

How can i upload pictures from vrchat to my phone? Ive been trying to figure it out for months

[wheat vigil]

Have you try to synced your vrchat pictures?

[somber patrol]

Yes i have

[wheat vigil]

What i normally do is i send it to myself and that's how I get the pictures but I know there's a better ways of doing so

[somber patrol]

Wdym sending them to yourself?

[wheat vigil]

Well i send it to myself in WhatsApp by sharing the images i took

And i just have them save because well i send it to myself but you can probably send it to one of your friends and download it off discord

[somber patrol]

Okay! Thanks!

[wheat vigil]

Np man glad i was able to be any help

[fleet scarab]

so, im getting a quest 2, and i'm solely going to be using it for vrchat. should I get the 64gb, or save up to get a 128gb-256gb? or should I just wait for more information on quest 3?

[jagged trench]

we're probably not going to hear anything about the quest 3 until Meta Connect 2023 which would probably be in October

[fleet scarab]

Alright well, do you think the 64gb is enough for vrchat, or should I get either the 128gb or 256gb?

[jagged trench]

I don't know off the top of my head cuz I don't know how much storage space vrchat takes up maximum on the quest

[hazy aurora]

it takes 1 gb

but the more you play the more your cache fills

Now if you use PC vrchat

your PCs storage will be used

[fleet scarab]

I'm planning on just using it standalone, but it shouldn't be too much trouble clearing the cache. thank you for the info! This helps me out a lot :)

[gray kiln]

I have the 64gb and I have a few games (about 15-25 I’d say) and I still have about 25 ish gb left so

[fleet scarab]

Oh sweet, that's pretty good

[carmine salmon]

Hey, I don’t know where to put this, but the avatar sound slider on the quest version of VRC is gone. Like, nowhere to be found. Does anybody else see what I’m seeing, or rather, not seeing?

[echo lynx]

Hey question did they fix the physbones posing? Or is it still broken?

[jagged trench]

yes the recent patch removed the Avatar audio slider because there's not supposed to be any avatars on quest with audio and if you seen any in vrchat those are made using a modified SDK which breaks terms of service

[carmine salmon]

Damn, alright.
Do you know why quest audio isn’t allowed?

Also, thanks for letting me know

[jagged trench]

too many audio sources crashes the headset

[true stump]

Anyone else cant see group banners?

[haughty coyote]

Nice

Update broke the game on quest

[jagged trench]

how so

[haughty coyote]

Couldn't update the game so Uninstalled now I can't reinstalled so resented the Quest 2 still won't install turned it off then on still won't install

After 3 off an on against its now installing

Bruh

[frozen ridge]

Did they get rid of the avatar audio?

[maiden flicker]

@frozen ridge idk it’s not working for me either

[topaz flame]

I was reading the patch notes, why was quest avatar audio removed again?

[jagged trench]

the picture right above you explains why

[wheat vigil]

Friends?

[haughty coyote]

Because it was never supposed to be a thing. It was removed long ago but people found a way to add it anyway, this is then squashing a bug. Audio sources on avatars is a huge burden on the quest 2 cpu, so much so that a single instance if it could severely impact performance.

[topaz flame]

Is there not a way to properly implement avatar sounds for quest?

[dawn cove]

no... thats literally the thing theyre trying to explain

it isnt there because its practically impossible to properly implement on an already burdened machine

[earnest hatch]

Henlo

[iron scarab]

Uh stupid question, but how do I sit on the floor while in vr? There's no crouch or lay button so do I just have to physically get on my irl floor?

[muted fox]

You can do that, but you could also get/make an avatar with "Gogo Locomotion" which will let you sit, lay, squat, you name it

[unique spear]

sure

[gray kiln]

Not you saying boys only 💀

[gray kiln]

They a pick me, the shit I’ve seen them say is just horrendous 😂

And you deleted the message like you do every single time, like that one argument we had and every time you talk to someone you just delete it

And you also once were talking to someone that you didn’t wanna talk to and blocked them and then proceeded to complain to them on here even tho you “didn’t wanna talk to them”

Then you said you wanted to k y s and you announced it to this channel idk why that was necessary

And then I heard there was also a time when your status was my DMs are open, specifically when I girl texted you what did you do, close ur DMs

It’s just funny to me 😂

Why is that if I may ask

And you deleted it agai bc

Again*

Are you gonna answer me

@rotund loom?

[haughty coyote]

Damn.

Apparently so

[gray kiln]

Mhm .

😂

[haughty coyote]

Be careful, we don't need a round two lol

[gray kiln]

Which person

The shadow person?

@rotund loom

Heyyyyy

[haughty coyote]

.....lol

[gray kiln]

Same

I just wanna honestly know why they only wanna be friends with boys not girls

And why they complain

Yeah 😂

@rotund loom

If you just answer my question there’s a 99% chance that I’ll stop bothering you shadow

Shhhh

Same here

I like how she says she ain’t a pick me yet never gives an explanation

Indeed

@rotund loom

I wanna see if her DMs are open 😏

Just saw that

She’s now online 😏 hehehee

@rotund loom heyyyyyyy

Think we can talk just got a few questions don’t wanna argue

Aye thanks

You might be able to now that I added you idk

Just lemme know

Kk 👍🏼

Ok I might sound stupid but is ur status a reference to something

Y E S

I figured it was

Love Hamilton 😩

@rotund loom idc that ur on vrc just answer me it ain’t that hard I know ur prob reading my messages and just are being scared

First time I watched it I memorized all of it

Her bio “don’t text me once if ur not gonna talk to me”

First off grammar a little off there would make more sense as “don’t text me once if youre not gonna text me again”

And I promise I’ll text you more then once shadow 👉👈

Mhm mhm

Kinda wanna see what her bio on vrc is

Holdup imma see if she’s put her username on here

She’s deleted almost all her messages dang

@rotund loom

Pleaseeeeeeee shadow

[magic star]

damn two salty girls

i would say both lol

ok then u only toxic.,, for now

[gray kiln]

I just have questions for the one girl but she won’t respondddddddd

I just wanna ask her something but I’m being ignored 😞

[haughty coyote]

Think they really only want to understand her. Rain in particular tried being Shadows friend.

Shhhhh lol

[magic star]

i am too but can~T show some. not the right time for me it`s 2;05 AM

[gray kiln]

Jeez yeah sleep 😂

[magic star]

why would i type faster i enjoy writing on my vr while people waits

[haughty coyote]

Bro can yall just stop

Bro, yall cannot force someone to speak, continuing to ask and ping is still a no go. Yall can get reporder for mass pinging

Plus shadow probs blocked u

[gray kiln]

I’m just joking around and plus you aren’t a part of it

[haughty coyote]

Yea we do. But yall r annoying kn general

[haughty coyote]

Okay and? Just stop litterslly

[gray kiln]

I wanna talk to her not you

[haughty coyote]

Says the people who constantly pinged shadow

[gray kiln]

Plus idc what you have to say

[haughty coyote]

She doesnt eant to. Move on

[gray kiln]

Cool don’t care

[haughty coyote]

Cool didnt ask

[gray kiln]

I just wanna ask a question then there I’ll leave her alone

[haughty coyote]

Alr watch it happen the

[gray kiln]

Ur literally defending a pick me

I hope you know that

[haughty coyote]

Well if she aint in the mood rn ask tomorrow or later ig

[gray kiln]

Cool I might as well but you ain’t a part of this so don’t make ur self a part of this :))

Wowwwwww

[haughty coyote]

No

[haughty coyote]

Just stop annoying people

[gray kiln]

Since when was there multiple ppl

[haughty coyote]

I did so a couple gimes before. Shes a friend

[gray kiln]

I just wanna ask her a question and you come in here like a discord mod defending her like she’s ur discord kitten

[haughty coyote]

No

[gray kiln]

Yes

[haughty coyote]

Yall were constantly pinging and stuff

So its annoying

[gray kiln]

How is us pinging her annoying you?

[haughty coyote]

She didnt ask

So

[haughty coyote]

Annoying friends is annoying me

[gray kiln]

Brenticos can I tell ya something real quick

[haughty coyote]

Sure idc

Not rly sorta

[magic star]

renren is toxic and salty now hahaha

[haughty coyote]

True

[gray kiln]

I don’t wanna argue with her at all, tbh I wanted to be friends with her and then she started whining and complaining to some boy a while back blocked him said she didn’t wanna talk to him but kept messaging him thru here and she has blocked and unblocked people over and over

I jsut wanna know why she doesn’t wanna be friends with girls

Cuz and why she just whines

[haughty coyote]

Thats for her to see if she wants to answer not fkr u

[gray kiln]

And all that I don’t wanna argue I just have a genuine question

[haughty coyote]

By shadow including her friends, she makes it worse. Hammer wasn't even in the discord before this lol.

[gray kiln]

True

[haughty coyote]

I included myself endurance

[gray kiln]

Listen

[haughty coyote]

If she isnt answering quit it

[gray kiln]

I don’t care what you have to say she’s been playing around with people and it’s annoying asf ok

[haughty coyote]

Shr may be difficult but i can go around that

[haughty coyote]

Don't pretend it's not because she complained about it. They only wanted to talk initially. Nothing more.

It appears yall cant lol

[gray kiln]

Literally one time she got mad at someone cuz they wanted to hangout with someone else other then her and she started whining

[haughty coyote]

By constantly pinging

Nah.

Yah

[gray kiln]

Atleast I ain’t spam binging a mod

Pinging*

[haughty coyote]

She is prob just upset. But not crying. So stop being toxic

[haughty coyote]

I didnt even ping some1 lol

[gray kiln]

I never said you did

[haughty coyote]

Then who spammed a mod

[gray kiln]

I was just saying atleast I ain’t spamming a mod I’m spamming a regular person in the server

Idk why it matters

[haughty coyote]

Yea but still. Dont

She doesnt like it

So, just move on please

[gray kiln]

ღメ₊˚๑┊(Shadow)・ଓ₊˚メ#9999

That her user right yeah

[haughty coyote]

And we can all just live happily after

[gray kiln]

@rotund loom

[haughty coyote]

God damnit

[gray kiln]

Oops

[haughty coyote]

Im gettkng a mod

[magic star]

I take it back rain is the saltiest lol

[haughty coyote]

Well shadkw should

[grave stream]

Rain. Can you do me a favor and just let her be? We've been through this before. @gray kiln

@haughty coyote @magic star don't make it worse.

[gray kiln]

I jsut wanna ask her a question and I’ll leave her be tbh

Literally just curious

[grave stream]

@gray kiln dont.

[gray kiln]

But these people wanna argue so

[haughty coyote]

I wanted it to stop rain. Bruh

[gray kiln]

I didn’t wanna argue in the first place but whatever the fuck his name is started arguing

[haughty coyote]

I kept saykng stop asking and pinging and thats it

[gray kiln]

Yeah well I just wanna ask her a question and I’m done

[grave stream]

@haughty coyote then stop. I got it. I can't get on vr ATM.

[gray kiln]

K I’ll stop pinging her but I want her to answer my question when she can

[haughty coyote]

She doesnt want to answer. So leave jt be

Alr Dual ik u can mostly do stuff correct so

[grave stream]

@gray kiln I've known her for 6 months. If it's something I can answer I will

[haughty coyote]

Just stop

[gray kiln]

I doubt you’d be able to answer it and I want to hear it from her

[grave stream]

Try me.

[haughty coyote]

Yes i left. Goodnight ig

Xd

[gray kiln]

First off why does she block people say she doesn’t wanna talk to them yet argues with them in the server second why does she only want to be friends with guys and not girls? Like that’s confusing asf

[haughty coyote]

Ee

Ew bye

[gray kiln]

And I’ve heard her pull the girls make me uncomfortable and how does that even make sense

[grave stream]

I can answer those.

[gray kiln]

I want her to answer them.

Not you

[grave stream]

She won't.

[gray kiln]

I want her words

Ik she prob won’t

Cuz she scared

And upset about it but that’s her problem

No 😭

I’m a curious person 😭

😠 no

You were literally doing it with my and pinging her with me dude

Me*

I ain’t gonna drag it on forever if that’s what ur getting at tho

[grave stream]

Her social hangups are based on trauma and the fact she was / bullied online and rl. By girls no less. I told you before that her reasons are her own. So just let her be.@gray kiln

[gray kiln]

That doesn’t answer the first question

That’s the second

You said you could answer both of them

He still said he could answer them

[grave stream]

Because she is Ultimately stubborn and can be combative. If she knows someone is talking shit behind her back she will respond. She can control her dms but not the places she frequents.

[gray kiln]

Yeah I’ve noticed 💀

And it literally hides ppls messages in a server when you block them

You gotta click on them to read them 💀

So that’s her own fault

[grave stream]

It may be. But she has difficulty operating in normal social scenarios so she defaults to self defense

[gray kiln]

There ya go

[grave stream]

When you know that +1 blocked message is shit talk, you ain't gonna click on it?

[gray kiln]

Cuz I ignore it

[grave stream]

Not everyone can or does.

[gray kiln]

That’s their problem not mine

[grave stream]

True.

But its not easy for everyone

[gray kiln]

Most people on here are toxic so

[grave stream]

We're all aware. She is too.

[gray kiln]

I will say I can be rude myself, but if I’m around people I’m friends with ofc im not

That to

[magic star]

renren is my toxicity type but think she is way too young for me

[gray kiln]

😂

[grizzled fog]

Does anyone else not have the ability to hear their avatars audios?

[magic star]

[gray kiln]

Got rid of it on quest it’s not supposed to be on quest read the updates

I’m also 15 im not alone 😢

[magic star]

not a simp just realistic

ok ^^

[haughty coyote]

Oh what did I miss? We all friends now?

Good girl

X333

Oops

[magic star]

feeling too old already wtf

[haughty coyote]

Rip

[magic star]

maybe lol

[haughty coyote]

@magic star ye. Join the club.

[gray kiln]

I feel that

[haughty coyote]

Ren¹⁰⁰ sleep?

Aw. Fine. But we gotta hang out tomorrow then, alr?

That's fine. You can sleep on me lol

[twilit trout]

I hate the fact I can't hear music anymore I had an avatar with my favourite song on it now I can't hear it

[dawn panther]

What I heard was a dev got pissed off at an sans avi saying "human, would you like some balls on your face?"

And fucking banned all quest avatar audio

[jagged trench]

no that's not it the quest avatars were never supposed to have audio so that being possible was the bug so they fixed the bug I literally just posted something from Tupper

[twilit trout]

Yeah I'm just annoyed I can't listen to guns and roses or my chemical romance anymore

[jagged trench]

so it doesn't help anyone to make up rumors

[jagged trench]

then go to a world that has a video player

[twilit trout]

They never work for me

[dawn panther]

Wait, then why was it a thing??

[jagged trench]

people were using modified sdks

[dawn panther]

Oh really?

[jagged trench]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAdRM0o3ljE

[dawn panther]

Damn

[jagged trench]

yes

[twilit trout]

And I ain't buying pc vr because no pc because pc means no money

[dawn panther]

Well avatar creators are going to bypass it eventually

[jagged trench]

probably not as they fixed the bug that allowed the modded sdks to work in the first place

[jagged trench]

I linked a way to get the video players to behave try it

[twilit trout]

Won't try the thing after I watch the video because I have covid :p

[subtle galleon]

Anyone wanna watch sword art online later

[haughty coyote]

[past echo]

i just got done with war of the under world pt2

whats after that

[summer warren]

Unsure where I’m supposed to ask this so apologises, but does the quest finger tracking still work if I have my quest hooked up to the pc?

Or do I have to be standalone for it to work?

(Basically can I have my headset plugged in with the link cable and still use the finger tracking)

[opaque panther]

Yo

I mostly see fallback avatars

[opaque panther]

It still works

[summer warren]

So it is no longer just standalone?

[opaque panther]

Yes it’s stand alone

[summer warren]

So then I can’t have it linked to the pc

Okay, thanks for letting me know!

[opaque panther]

You can still have it hooked up

[summer warren]

No but I can’t play pcvr vrc

🥹

[opaque panther]

Wait you can’t that’s wierd

[summer warren]

But if the finger tracking is standalone that means quest version of vrchat

Not pcvr vrchat

You’re saying I can use finger tracking on the quest on pcvr vrchat?

[opaque panther]

U should still be able to use it

[summer warren]

Oh okay, I’ll have to check that out then and test

[haughty coyote]

Eternal_Player

[primal jay]

You can't.

Meta's fault in not allowing it for anything but development, literally stops working when you finish compiling a game.

[summer warren]

Aww okay

Thanks for letting me know ❤️

[subtle galleon]

I think just the movies

[bleak zodiac]

Hey! I was thinking, so you know how quest users can use the vrchat camera to take photos and it shows up on the oculus photos or your oculus files?…well I was thinking why can’t you do the same thing with videos? I really think quest users should be able to use their vrchat camera as a video camera too! I think this would make a lot of quest users happy and a lot of content creators happy too!!!

[primal jay]

They are already working on it, if you didn't see the New Years world had a button that when pressed had a camera on rails move around the world while recording a 1 minute, I think, video. This also worked on Quest.

Right now only the VRChat team can use that feature, but as Tupper said on a developer update a few months back there is no reason why this couldn't allow for the camera to record on its own.

[fresh wing]

hi

my vrchat is always crashing in oculus quest 2

do you know what to do so it stop crashing?

[bleak zodiac]

OH WOW! I did notice that and it does work for quest!!! That’s amazing! Hopefully they can make it happen that would be so helpful!

[primal jay]

Show less avatars.

That and factory resetting are the only things I have seen working.

[fresh wing]

how i do that?

[primal jay]

https://www.meta.com/help/quest/articles/fix-a-problem/troubleshoot-headsets-and-accessories/troubleshooting-factory-reset-quest-2/

[fresh wing]

thanks

but if it deletes all my games

do I have to buy them again?

[primal jay]

No, games are tied to your account.
What you might loose is progress in some games.
You shouldn't be loosing any progress in any multiplayer games, but when it comes to single player games not all use cloud saves.

[fresh wing]

understood

I read in the comments of the Meta Quest app that I could enable safe mode, but I would not be able to see the avatars. Do you know another option that will stop me from crashing and I can see the avatars?

I don't understand your method, it tells me to click on advanced options in the Meta Quest application, but I can't find them.

I'm doing the fabric reset

[floral lagoon]

vr remote controller gamepad work on a headset ?

[primal jay]

In the handheld menu's settings there is an option for distance hiding, which partially unloads avatars either based on how many avatars are around you or by how far away they are, this can help, but because lack of enough RAM is likely the main reason for the crashing and the distance hider doesn't help with lessening the amount of RAM required, it won't always even help.

Why factory resetting seems to help is not something I am sure about, my guess is that it is cleaning up junk left from probably both Quest updates and maybe VRChat updates.

So basically all you can do is make sure to only manually show the people you are speaking with.

[primal jay]

On PC you can use a gamepad to control while having a headset on your head (or at least you could, not sure anymore, very unusual to have a headset and no controllers nowadays), don't think you can on Quest.

[floral lagoon]

Okay thank you

[fresh wing]

hi

may someone help me

??

what I do when i get near someone and he/she disappears

??

[dusk bolt]

That's the "Personal Space" comfort setting, you can disable it in the menu

[fresh wing]

thanks

i have another problem

i can't see my interaction

i mean, i have goku avatar and he can throw a kame hame ha, but i cannot see it. People around me can see it but i can't

[somber steeple]

My VRCHAT won’t load it just freezes

Help

[echo parcel]

why hasnt avatar search been added? will it ever?

[dusk bolt]

Not having avatar search was a deliberate decision by the VRC devs and thus it will likely never be added.

[modern glen]

I'm a quest and valve user, at this point I just make my own avis

Unfortuneitly i started with crasher avatars, but that became boring and I realised how much of a dick I was so started to focus more on some friendly ones

[dusky cipher]

Anyone I could talk to?

[haughty coyote]

[fresh wing]

alright

thanks you

but when i use lord beerus power, i can see it

but ok

thanks

[haughty coyote]

That simply means that particular expression IS quest compatible. If you don't already know off hand what is or is not PC only features, it basically comes down to trial and error.

[unique tinsel]

@sacred vortex

[sacred vortex]

Ugh what

[sacred vortex]

?

[fresh wing]

thanks

[haughty coyote]

Wrong reply. Lol.

[haughty coyote]

No problem.

[unique tinsel]

add me, I need to talk

[haughty coyote]

wazzap

[haughty coyote]

Oculus quest is good to play vrchat or nah ?

[gray kiln]

I guess

[charred nova]

Its good but can sometimes crash

[coarse oracle]

anybody want to hangout on vrc

[haughty coyote]

Questies general

I hope u guys connect ur quest to a pc. Cuz vrchat graphic with quest sucks

[river solstice]

We know

[haughty coyote]

Damn. Way to call out questies who have no PC.

[maiden gate]

My PC is splitted in half

[eternal rapids]

what is happening, i didnt get my email message

not even in the spam folder

[past echo]

yo i need help finding a strap

[night edge]

i have noticed that Quest VRChat recognizes bluetooth keyboard input now, but the behavior is a little strange.

[old sequoia]

I keep crashing after being in a world for like 10 minutes

what do I do

[solid crown]

The same thing is happening to me to or every time I long into the app it says it crashed or says the world I tried to get into has failed something like that

[old sequoia]

I thought it was because of my avatars

But it isnt