vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

you dont need more than 11gb at all for gaming

[wind zealot]

yeah

[vocal shard]

8-11 is where its at.

[wind zealot]

so cut 12 gigs off for an app

then leave 12 for vram

[vocal shard]

whaaaaaa

[wind zealot]

yes

[vocal shard]

never heard about that

[wind zealot]

duh

[vocal shard]

i heard about assigning storage as virtual ram

[wind zealot]

i only saw a russian do this on youtube, which means no one ever even thought of this idea

[vocal shard]

but not vram as storage

[wind zealot]

yep

[vocal shard]

crazy

[wind zealot]

also storage as vram is just plain stupid

it's like vswap

no wait, even worse

since when vram starts running out, it uses ram, but using storage is even slower

[vocal shard]

wait what

no it does not

[wind zealot]

yes it does

[vocal shard]

I love going into a public VR chat lobby and seeing how people express themselves! It makes me so happy

what? thats absurd

[wind zealot]

how

if your vram would run out, pc would freeze, if it would use your local storage as swap it would insanely slow down
if it uses ram, it's still slow, but not as slow as using storage

[vocal shard]

This is true. In most OSes. they will actually use your disk for emergency RAM styled storage

[wind zealot]

oh btw let's move to random chat

[wind zealot]

we're talking VRAM not RAM

[vocal shard]

oh shi u actually are righht

oh my god

[wind zealot]

and also not emergency

[vocal shard]

Id assume it would be the same. I did not catch a lecture on vram in my computer architecture class, but it would make a lot of sense

[vocal shard]

"not preferred"

[wind zealot]

windows uses it as ram assignment, linux uses it for pretty much the same purpose in smaller scale

@vocal shard

stop pinging.

[vocal shard]

#general-media

lets hop

[molten atlas]

No one else want to join the vrchat family

[vocal shard]

he is trying to get ppl onboard his cringe roleplay thingy

i already blocked him. tried to get me on his sketchy discord

Hey, nothing wrong with a bit of roleplay. Its kinda what social games are for.

[broken cobalt]

is friends list and offline icon when u launch vrchat fixed yet?

[vocal shard]

Don't judge people's interests. If you don't like it, that's fine. Just don't insult people for their interests

:| but mooooom

[vocal shard]

or what ?

what you gonna do ? cancel me ?

like stating that rp is cringe is not a lie.

ppl do many cringe activities

I mean, you all could just be good people, understand that you might not like something, but other people being happy isnt the problem in the world

¯_(ツ)_/¯

no

dress in suits resembling animals and bark together. its their stuff ok np but im just saying its cringe

[vocal shard]

And thats perfectly fine. Nobody is requiring you to like it. All that I think can be requested of you is to just be understanding and considerate. The world is an awful place, lets make it better.

ppl will always judgmental

we live in a society

[vocal shard]

Im not.

If you are not hurting anyone, I dont really care what you do.

[broken cobalt]

holy shit half worlds is like almost at 0

[vocal shard]

^

the arrow was to bit

[vocal shard]

doesn't hurt anyone to say cringe

^

[vocal shard]

No, but it is rude. We should be considerate and nice to eachother. Like I said, the world is awful. Lets make it better.

at least being aware one is considered cringe is a path to enlightment

[vocal shard]

no xd

or so they say

[vocal shard]

But are we not all cringe in some way? Isnt cringe a subjective term?

no it's not

no

[vocal shard]

👏

I personally think people that join the military are cringe, many others disagree. Nothing wrong with it, and frankly I support it, as long as they are happy.

thats ur oppinion. np

Cringe is an opinion.

im off to lockerroom

Hi

you see, this is objectively cringe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_mr4jkMOY

hf ppl

[vocal shard]

I mean, its not my thing, but I have seen way weirder shit and people not bat an eye. You really get a grasp on things like that when you have worked retail.

oh god svel where u find those wtf

I dont think my experience are welcome in this discord because many of the stories I can tell are EXTREMELY NSFW.

you don't have to work retail to know cringe and second hand embarrassment because of this type of stuff

k bye

[vocal shard]

cringetopia

good luck svel.

i cant friend on vrchat its bugged i dont know why does it happened to someone else

[vocal shard]

I get embarrassed when I see a women with inappropriate links or connections in their bio. Nothing against it, like I said, frankly, I dont care as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Those women would not argue it is cringe, but instead empowerment.

Anyone know tot there’s any gabi avatars for vrchat?

My ultimate message is to just be a good person. The world sucks, be the change you want to see. If you feel like the world cant change, thats okay too, but dont be the problem instead. If you are a good person, in a never changing world, you were a good person. If you are a bad person in a changing world, you are a bad influence. If you are a bad person, in a never changing world, you are why it doesnt change.

[vocal shard]

Who even spoke to you?

@vocal shard

[sudden grotto]

hey

[vocal shard]

Byakuya I like your profile picture

[nocturne warren]

Hey Everyone.

[vocal shard]

ty

[vocal shard]

I wasn't talking to you

[sudden grotto]

i think thats arman from attack on titan?

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard

I thought it was historia

[sudden grotto]

oh maybe it is

[vocal shard]

Yeah armin has short hair now

[vocal shard]

It is Historia tho

Okay

[vocal shard]

is that gabi in ur pfp?

It’s a black gabi to be specific

Ima go eat then run around be chat

[frigid patrol]

anyone wanna play horror games with me later?

[wind zealot]

horror without vr is not scary (fuck jumpscares) ||and i don't have vr, nor a pc to run them on lmao||

[vocal shard]

There has been a couple non VR games that have gotten me

[wind zealot]

bruh whenever i go to my dms i see someone pop on/off-line

marsy, svel, kenma, monke, etc

[unkempt lance]

You know reading the patch notes on beta raises concerns. I've never really had an issue with the higher polygon models. Many are in the upper 100k tris. It's usually particles that make me crash. Removing worlds seems like a slap in the face to the creators when the quest can handle much more.

[wind zealot]

||particles*||

[unkempt lance]

Yes that

I think a good cut off would be around 70k, for bad performance. Anything over 20k should probably be hidden. You can already turn off particles on problematic avatars.

[vocal shard]

please tell me saying the n word with the hard r isn't allowed

[wind zealot]

in chat no, irl yes, cuz it's just a word ffs

[shadow eagle]

#general-media

[wind zealot]

making it something special is what pisses people more than the actual word

[brisk birch]

Is it possible to unlink my steam from VR chat and attach it to a new one?

[wind zealot]

if you didn't read, back in the day it said: this process is irreversable

[vocal shard]

In game?

[vocal shard]

Yeah

In game acual voice chat ive seen people use it

Anyone wanna play vr?

[tropic raptor]

vrchat login or steam login?

[analog schooner]

Does anyone have a list of how to do gestures in Reverb G2?

[vocal shard]

Well i joined the vrchat military

The Sovereign Order of Canada

[weary jay]

Why when i join a server there is no people ?

[ornate ivy]

Is anyone having issues connecting to vrchat if you have VPN active? All of a sudden I seem to be getting timed out instead of loading in.

I can connect without any issue if I turn it off, but I'd rather not play with it switched off.

[wind zealot]

amazon servers might not like vpn, why would you need a vpn anyways

[ornate ivy]

had a person using a custom client read my IP address out to a room full of people once because this game has no IP protection

[wind zealot]

and so what?

who would actually need your ip?

[ornate ivy]

Well I don't want people having it regardless, and it was working fine a week ago, it's just suddenly stopped working.

[wind zealot]

well using a vpn is your choice, so go on i guess

just don't mind all those hundreds of people who already know your ip just because you sent a message

[ornate ivy]

You could offer some advice instead of being snarky about it you know.

[wind zealot]

i wouldn't because i don't use a vpn, i don't know how aws reacts to vpns

[vocal shard]

VPN only protects from DDoS

[umbral reef]

Even that it doesnt, you still get knocked online, but instead of your full home network its just the VPN being knocked offline

[vocal shard]

Which affects hundreds of people.

And getting caught is jail time.

[void field]

they deserve that

let me tell you, being a server host and getting ddossed (despite having T7 protection) is not fun. I wish the worst to people who do that 👋

[void field]

If you wish I can hook you up with a european private OVH-openVPN server

I know it's ass to get your IP read out loud

[vocal shard]

I cant get on VRC without a VPN

[ornate ivy]

I remember reading an official support thread from one of the Devs recommending you use a VPN because of people having access to your IP and other stuff as the game has no protection, plus it's handy for other things like netflix anyway.

[vocal shard]

Or take my status off red.

[ornate ivy]

I found a solution through a steam forum thread, so it's all good.

[void field]

due to the direct voice channel connections, yes, with proper tools it would be possible

but if you use a proxy, vpn etc. you should be safe

[vocal shard]

Or tell people where I am going.

It is pretty lame.

[void field]

I personally have a dynamic IP and live in a highly urban area so I don't worry too much about getting "tracked" or DOSed but I know it's not fun

[ornate ivy]

Yeah like I doubt anyone would actually do anything but you know, peace of mind I guess.

[vocal shard]

Meh. This game has a way or sorting out trash.

I'll just give it time.

[void field]

ofcofc

[vocal shard]

I'm waiting for the next ban wave tbh

[void field]

don't worry about that kind of stuff to be honest, unless you're a celebrity or have a name nobody will bother with your IP address

[vocal shard]

Theres nothing I can do against client users (idk why I'm calling them clients more like a plugin and scripts) and force join.

[void field]

modded clients are iffy for me. I wish there was a way to mod the game (like minecraft in a way) with approved changes from the developers but I guess we'd have to wait. I don't support modding but I feel like having community labs could probably help with the many bugs that present themselves here

[vocal shard]

Kind of made 3.4K friends and restructured a few things in game.

Theres definitely some haters after me 😅

[void field]

I feel ya

I own a gameserver so unfortunately same but through the careful process of being cautious I'm chillin

[worthy oracle]

you should just pay no mind to them really

there’s no point of letting someone get into your head

[void field]

facts

[vocal shard]

I use to spend all day exploring labs. The amount of "bad" things I would find is absurd.

I never reported it because I treat labs as free DLC

All that trash gets yeeted really fast regardless.

[void field]

ah shame

I usually only go around the moderated stuff

[ornate ivy]

On the off chance anyone has ExpressVPN and is having issues like I was, try this: . It's the new ExpressVPN protocol thats causing the issue with VRC.
Open the ExpressVPN app, click on the top left corner, go to Options -> Protocol and select OpenVPN UDP.

[vocal shard]

I just sit in the great pug and hide, mute, show and block all day when im bored.

Just be a mute.

[rotund bluff]

Instead of being smart and creative. Some people use all their intelligence for bad. Then a couple years later they realize they wasted so much more than they gained

[void field]

society 🤷‍♂️

[vocal shard]

I have different groups in the game all pointing their fingers at me! Bad avatars and broken worlds are not my problem.

[rotund bluff]

Why would they be your problem? Why are you being singled out?

[vocal shard]

They are getting crashed because I am there.

[hexed raven]

Basically you're using a crasher and you expect people not be mad at you?

Wot

I just came in idk wat happening

[rotund bluff]

Not to be a dick but 99% of avatars that have that issue are malicious and should only be used in friends or private

[void field]

bruh 💀 if you're crashing people you're just part of the problem

[hexed raven]

I guess for that response, yes he's using a crasher indeed

[vocal shard]

I am getting singled out for speaking up about volunteering and helping facilitate events and how the people I work with and myself are being targeted by people trying to operate a business within a free game.

[hexed raven]

Y e s

[void field]

reason why I have safety on max all time 🙄

[hexed raven]

I hide all pc users, they're cool but i'm scared dude

[vocal shard]

We do it the best because none of us want anything from anyone, just show up and have a good time.

I'm so far down this rabbithole

[void field]

so you're saying that you're helpful yet you crash people

[vocal shard]

I have never crashed someone.

I help with partnerships for events.

[hexed raven]

But you said that people crash because you're present

[void field]

so what is this about

[vocal shard]

Yes, I am being targeted.

[hexed raven]

We're all confused, explain how your helpfulness is making others get crashed and what does it have to do with you making events

[void field]

? you worded it as if you're the one targeting

[vocal shard]

Since people are here to make money from others.

[hexed raven]

Are they?

[vocal shard]

Yes.

[void field]

what's wrong with taking commissions though? I don't see many scams these days here

[vocal shard]

We do everything in charity.

Nothing.

People are allowed to make money.

Just don't go after people crashing because they are more competitive.

[rotund bluff]

how many times have you be banned from the game?

[vocal shard]

Zero.

[hexed raven]

How can people make money in game if it's not selling avatars or services to help in world

[void field]

huh? I feel like you're contradicting yourself a bit

[hexed raven]

Like, i'm not sure if i'm alone on this train but flr me nothing that you're saying makes much sense

[vocal shard]

I have 1400 hours 1300 with ym status in blue wearing g an avatar that shows where I am on every map.

I dont do sus things.

[void field]

okay but what were you going on about earlier with people hating you?

and the crashing 😕

[rotund bluff]

then why would you say people are singling you out?

[hexed raven]

You're saying you're being targeted (by who?) on vrc by organizing events for free and you don't crash people but they get crashed because "they" targeted you

[void field]

I'm so confused

[hexed raven]

Sorry if i'm fucking stupid but i don't understand

[stable folio]

Sorry no good people allowed. Time to perish cobruh

[vocal shard]

I shouldn't bring my problems here.

[stable folio]

👊

[vocal shard]

I think it is entertaining though.

[void field]

@hexed raven I think they're trying to say that they're passive aggresive and only would do things like crash people if they're annoying to them?

[rotund bluff]

it's because it doesn't make sense to be both "targeted" and "non sus"

[hexed raven]

Idk but he also said that we shouldn't go after crashers so wat?

[void field]

yea

weirdchamp

[vocal shard]

Sure it does. We have 50-80 person events on a Tuesday. Other places sit empty.

It is just ego.

It is quite pathetic actually.

[hexed raven]

Again, who is targeting you?

[vocal shard]

I have no idea, they are on alts force joining me.

[narrow hamlet]

public instances doesn't refresh and i end up going always to the same rooms

[hexed raven]

://////

[narrow hamlet]

does it only happens to me?

[rotund bluff]

how many?

[hexed raven]

It's happening to everyone dw

[stable folio]

Well. Usually shit doesn't happen for free. Im going to guess you've been dabbling in dark forces, clapped some people, and now you're being clapped back

[vocal shard]

I think it is some rogue discord of a few people. I caught one of them.

[stable folio]

It happens, it's the price you pay for getting involved

[rotund bluff]

That's why I just talk and be wholesome

Play the game as intended

[stable folio]

I know. It's just what I'm saying

You're going to get people who take it seriously because VRChat lacks proper protection for some people

[vocal shard]

Yeah Beetlejuice be real in this game.

[stable folio]

So some people like to 'take justice into their own hands'

[void field]

It sounds like they just take enjoyment from ruining events. They don't want anything against you personally

[vocal shard]

More you talk about crashers, the more appear.

[stable folio]

I wouldn't say that

[hexed raven]

Could you please explain what happened? I'm still on the moon

[stable folio]

Its just you're probably participating in public events for the public.

[vocal shard]

No these are friends+ discord partner events.

[rotund bluff]

friends+ needs to be invite only and it will stop

[vocal shard]

People can still force join.

[rotund bluff]

friends+ is coded very much like a public instance

invite is not force joinable

[vocal shard]

All you need is the instance ID.

[stable folio]

Yeah sure, and that makes me more thinking you've dabbled in dark forces so to speak

It happens dude, just make sure you rock proper safety settings and you're fine for most crasher incidents.

Say past world crashers but at that point even at invite plus they're going to come for you if they hate you that bad and i doubt these events are all that private.

[vocal shard]

Safety doesn't matter. People can still use scripts.

[stable folio]

And that's why I said most.

[vocal shard]

It will be funny to watch other places fall apart.

[stable folio]

Oooooo how ominous.

[vocal shard]

Again this is more entertaining watching people blame me.

[stable folio]

[vocal shard]

no ?

Things are about to get really anti-social and I'm going to get my popcorn.

[wind zealot]

hi svel

[stable folio]

[vocal shard]

hi

Can't wait for the next ban wave.

[opal apex]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-julia-popcorn-popcorn-mask-eating-gif-17789318

[stable folio]

He's being purposefully ominous and obtuse

Just let him be

[vocal shard]

I notice but he is going to get kicked at some point

[stable folio]

I get it. Getting your vrchat events clapped suck, but it's just how it is

[vocal shard]

spreading misinformation and fear mongering is a nono

[hexed raven]

Hi svel

[vocal shard]

🏓

[wind zealot]

than*

[rotund bluff]

everyone restart the game and join a more private instance. Only mildly annoying takes 10 seconds or less on nvme

[stable folio]

I disagree

[wind zealot]

🏓

[stable folio]

But that's just what it is. You get bad apples that ruin events

[void field]

Even better. You see your safety to maximum and click "show avatar" on everyone once you join. Nobody who joins halfway in can crash you anymore 🤷

[opal apex]

even with an nvme (which not everyone can get) you cant get into vrc if the servers arent working properly to begin with

[stable folio]

Truth 👏

[rotund bluff]

I too also hide all avatars and only show friends and people I meet/trust/speak to

[vocal shard]

People can use script crashers to turn off everyone's headsets.

Regardless of safety settings.

[vocal shard]

😂
no.

[void field]

I haven't been crashed once since

[radiant mango]

Yo are the VRchat devs fkn smoking their socks with their latest change with avatars

[void field]

So idk what you're going on about

[stable folio]

Very rare

[stable folio]

Ay yo what you mean king

[vocal shard]

Depends who you piss off i guess

[stable folio]

What did they do I'm a bit out of the loop

[opal apex]

same, what happened?

[vocal shard]

no one since you can't use scripts

[stable folio]

It's what I told you chief. Dabble with the wrong group and you get what happens

[radiant mango]

Avatar worlds with "poor" avatars are being taken down

[vocal shard]

#announcements

[stable folio]

Seriously?

[vocal shard]

Good.

[radiant mango]

Fkn bs

[void field]

Only the "very poor" ones

[stable folio]

Man that's mad dumb smh

[opal apex]

So we can run battle royales with 100 people in a lobby and bazillion tris but not vr chat with 30 people in one lobby

[radiant mango]

"Only the very poor ones"

So like 250+ avatars in my mates world

[stable folio]

Removed from search, does that mean quest only or in general?

[merry minnow]

They said in general

[stable folio]

😡

Time to get angry and worked up only for vrchat devs to do nothing

Let's GOOOO

[radiant mango]

^^^

[umbral reef]

Better throw them in cats plugin and get them fixed with that one button press kekw

[stable folio]

Ignoring all the other things you need to do to get it uploaded 💅

[vocal shard]

you make an avatar public, so you should expect a lot of people to use it

[stable folio]

So?

What's your point

[vocal shard]

so you'll see a large amount of people running around in shitty optimzied avatars, tanking the frames of everyone around them just by existing

[stable folio]

And?

[rotund bluff]

maybe people will stop making junk

[vocal shard]

ok I see you are a monkey so i'll dumb it down for you

[stable folio]

Uh oh insults in vrchat general?

🙀

[vocal shard]

What is the point of making another optimized anime girl avatar.

[merry minnow]

🍋

[vocal shard]

Poor avatar = less fps
less fps = bad
optimised avatar = more fps
more fps = good

[umbral reef]

@rotund bluff I said most impact any update had on performance was the cloning and allowing worlds with very poor avatars to be uploaded again
Im fairly sure this update will slowly improve performance for everyone more then any other update 🙏

[vocal shard]

Who is making the cool avatars.

I like animations and dynamic bones.

[stable folio]

I'm well aware but this a brute force.method that's mostly attacking PC users for the sake of quest users

[vocal shard]

None of this lame duck stuff.

[stable folio]

It's the same thing onward did and other pc vr to quest games have done and it sucks

It's a disappointing trend.

[vocal shard]

Quest..what are cloth verts...😂

[vocal shard]

you should read the announcement then
it's for quest only

[stable folio]

I don't dislike the quest

[void field]

gonna make a wet sponge avatar that when you click a button it fills the map with water

[stable folio]

They literally said 'in general'

[void field]

Sorry not sorry

[stable folio]

💅

[void field]

🥰

[stable folio]

Please do unironically

[void field]

I am extremely serious and I take your comment as a challenge to do so

[stable folio]

I wasn't kidding I want to see that lmao

[radiant mango]

Says the dude who probably doesnt make avatars or worlds

[vocal shard]

I never had the motivation to make an avatar because some people are really good at it.

[void field]

lmaoo

[stable folio]

It's a shame since all of my avatars are green but you should clap worlds for the sake of quest users

[vocal shard]

1. Find the most popular avatar worlds with Quest avatar pedestals that are mostly (or all) ranked as Very Poor.
2. Contact the authors of these worlds and request that they either optimize the models they have uploaded, or to remove them.
3. If no action is taken, the worlds will be removed from search.

I have been wearing avatars from only like 3 different creators for over 1k hours.

[umbral reef]

Being wrong is hard i know
https://i.imgur.com/KWqLACz.png

[void field]

🥵 cool bro

[radiant mango]

You make them quest comp?

[stable folio]

Some I do yeah

[unreal verge]

I luckily got my public avis down from to because i found a community made Quest optimized base for it. If i didn't i would probably just had taken down all avatar pedestals in the Quest version of my world and telling the Quest users that my avatars are only clonable from now on

[stable folio]

It's what I get for listening to another vrchat user in general 😡

Cause I read that then someone said "they appended in general"

[umbral reef]

Kinda should never trust shit people say in here when it comes to new information

[vocal shard]

always verify stuff yourself, especially here
lot of bullshit is being spread constantly here

[umbral reef]

Literally everyone is incapable of reading blow posts

[vocal shard]

Why spend time making mobile avatars when they can just link their quest and see better avatars?

[stable folio]

To be fair it sounds completely like what vrchat would do

So I wasn't doubtful at all

[vocal shard]

because not everyone has a PC that can support vr

[sharp galleon]

Because not everyone can, obviously.

[stable folio]

😔

[vocal shard]

I have one quest avatar out of 100

[radiant mango]

Do you make them quest comp tho?

[vocal shard]

no lmao

I dont see the point, I can't show a quest only user any of my world Playlists.

I play on PC only worlds so I don't even see the (standalone) Quest users

[merry minnow]

All 25 of mine that i actively use are green rated on pc and under 3mb. I dont visit cross platform lobbies so i see no need to make a quest upload

[stable folio]

I like the quest as a concept but I dislike the gimping of pcvr for it

Essentially

[radiant mango]

Then shut up.. why you adding your opinion to a quest comp issue if you dont even use/make quest stuff..

[unreal verge]

All my avatars on pc from myself that i use are to

[vocal shard]

I hate quest because gloom is eye cancer on the index.

[stable folio]

How dare you have an opinion!!!!

[vocal shard]

And world boulders don't know how to use toggles for bloom

[hexed raven]

That's fine, believe me, it doesn't affect that much to performance

[unreal verge]

It'll partly affect pc users too

[hexed raven]

Most of the avatars are red, and it's ok

[unreal verge]

Since if a world gets taken out of search that'll also count for the pc version of same world

[stable folio]

Does it actually?

[unreal verge]

Yes dev said it

[formal fable]

omfl

[stable folio]

Where exactly

[formal fable]

my vrchat literally almost crashed my entire pc

[unreal verge]

The statement is somewhere in #open-beta-discussion

[stable folio]

If it's actually in text I can use it to clap people saying I'm stupid

[radiant mango]

Nah, I'm talking about how avatar worlds and avatar variety will be effected due to the change.

And you're being like "Good riddance"

[stable folio]

😈

[formal fable]

i have decided

until i find a way to optimize vrchat, ill not gonna play it

[unreal verge]

So we will definitely lose some avatar worlds on pc due to this especially the ones where the creator is not active anymore

[ashen kraken]

Am I the only person with a broken friends list?

[peak ermine]

yeah

[hexed raven]

If your avatars have a very poor perfomance, take out the quest comp out and update the world, at least that's what i would do

[vocal shard]

Mine has been broken for weeks.

[radiant mango]

Nah plenty people have the same issue

[unreal verge]

Creators which are inactive can't do that

[merry minnow]

But hey more vrc plus features instead of addressing longstanding game issues

[radiant mango]

100%

It's sad that so many people gonna loose the already small amount of avatar variety

[wind zealot]

sounds like what most companies do, but they still get away with it, so they will continue with it

[ashen kraken]

Not really broken per se, I just know that there are a lot more people online than it says.

I can only see 5 in the list atm.

[stable folio]

Lets GOOOO!!

[unreal verge]

Luckily i found a Quest optimized base of my public avis otherwise i would have done this

[merry minnow]

You are using the website arent you

[hexed raven]

I'm doing mine from scratch and it's the third time i have to remake the whole body, and it's taking a while

I'm still figuring out my preferred method of sculpting the thing in blender

[merry minnow]

On my end thats been broke atleast 40% of the time since they said theyd fix the api. But the games fine

[unreal verge]

I don't have anything to do with blender so i don't have any knowledge about that nor the time to learn it

[hexed raven]

Not gonna get too much into it, but lemme tell you. Kinda easy to learn, just remember like 5 keys and what they do and you're done

Time might be a different story tho

[flat girder]

Hihi

[radiant mango]

Not sure what others think but I believe strongly that quest compatibility(Not only in Vrchat) is key for VR to really take off!?

[dim maple]

cats go brrrrrrrr

[flat girder]

-pets lots-

[unreal verge]

Yeah but i don't have the knowledge to do stuff like decimating or atlasing myself

[shadow eagle]

#general-media

[unreal verge]

And i won't risk my avatar world because of that

But that's not longer an issue currently

[void field]

Don't cry over quest taking over

Adapt or don't that's up to you

[flat girder]

As long as quest keeps working linked to my computer I'll be fine

[void field]

Either way it's more amazing people you can meet so just deal with it tbh

[unreal verge]

They're kids

[vocal shard]

this is a suprisingly unproductive arguement

[void field]

No they're not 😹

Seems like you're in the wrong lobbies

[unreal verge]

99% of Quest users in my world are kids

[radiant mango]

100%

Quest is amazing and should be catered for.

[wind zealot]

any*

[unreal verge]

And in other publics kids too

[hexed raven]

Like, yes, quest is kinda shit, and i use a quest myself. Not all are kids, yes some are and it sucks but you can't really do anything about negligent parents, but quest attracted a shit ton of people into the vr universe and it's something that people should get acustomed to, wether they like it or not

[unreal verge]

I try my best to make content for Quest but if I'm unable to i won't. As simple as that.

[radiant mango]

But obviously that's up to the author of the world

[vocal shard]

I think the quest users that arent braindead are hiding in invite worlds for the most part, when I join some of my friends who avoid pubs they got friends who only have the quest as an option and are like 16-19

I dont tend to see older quest users in pubs but I hang out in the black cat so

[hexed raven]

Quest is a good option for people that don't live in first world countries

[radiant mango]

And that's my argument with the update that the devs are pushing...

If they make it a pain for creators to make quest comp stuff then no one is going to do it (except for the few that do) which will lower the variety of worlds + avatars alot

[flat girder]

Listen even if kids couldn't get vr they still have weak or crappy computers they could use to get into vr chat anyways and sometimes kids can grow up to be good people just takes a few years and a bunch of different experience besides some of them might become creators and we where all know children so give them a chance some times their nice

[void field]

If devs don't want to make quest-compatible stuff that's their loss on possible users, so it's up to them

[unreal verge]

Let's say vrchat contacts me to optimize my avatars and i didn't manage to make them Quest compatible until then. If i still don't manage it or can't because i just don't have the time to learn another program while I'm already learning unity than my avis will become clonable only.

[hexed raven]

Kids are annoying, but they'll be here someday anyway, so meh

[wind zealot]

you might wanna keep in mind that quest uses different architecture and that it's a miracle that they even can have cross-platform worlds and avatars

[hexed raven]

Oh believe me, good avatars get cloned fast. Like, very fast.

[vocal shard]

ever see fortnite ninja by silent dreams? spreads like the plague

he doesnt have a world for it afaik

[void field]

This is my only drawback ig, let people be with their performance on their creations but I feel like verypoor avatars etc. are to be hidden by default

[unreal verge]

I assume that would happen with mine. But they don't spread if I'm rarely in publics.

[hexed raven]

Just give it to a few friends and ask them to use them with the cloning on and you're set up

[unreal verge]

I mean my world exists for 3 days now and has almost 3k visits last time i checked and almost 300 favs

[vocal shard]

oh shit nice

[flat girder]

Whats your world?

[unreal verge]

I already pushed the from to update hours after the announcement

[unreal verge]

It's called Octo's Hobkin Avatar world

[flat girder]

Im gonna go check it out in a bit then

About to start diving soon

[vocal shard]

furries should really start making animal jam avatars in this game that would be so dope

the rigging is the only concering part

[void field]

Lmao I'm making a sponge avatar rn

That when you squeeze it fills the world with water

[unreal verge]

My avis are more catered to pc though since there are the features and shaders

The Quest version doesn't have any features besides the standard emotes currently

[flat girder]

I don't know how to make avatars myself too complicated for my small brain so I'm gonna have one maid

[unreal verge]

That'll get expensive really fast

[vocal shard]

yeah you might end up spending more on the avatar than your whole vr set

[flat girder]

I know

[unreal verge]

Expect to pay at least the amount a Quest is currently worth

[vocal shard]

you sure you dont want to start off and try vroid or?

[flat girder]

Its worse because of what I want maid has to be done from scratch their is no avatar base that fits what j want that I have access too

I've tried blender I think its called

[rotund bluff]

Good vroid is still a pain. The vroid lounge people spend 8 hours or more on a design and they are familiar with the software and talented.

[radiant mango]

We were all kids on xbox/playstation ages ago when it first came out..

The quest kids of today will be the VR adults of tomorrow

[unreal verge]

Ok i think you go more into the index price range of your avatar then lol

[hexed raven]

What is it

[flat girder]

A lamia a large one that has weapons different animations clothes options effects and so on

The list I have for this avatar is something thats gonna have to be done one at a time

[hexed raven]

That's gonna be expensive x2

[unreal verge]

Yeah you'll probably pay the price of an Index

[hexed raven]

Y e p

[vocal shard]

well better start working overtime if you arent already

[flat girder]

I understand the price range im gonna save up 3k which will take awhile but what else and gonna set different budgest for each part of the avatar

[hexed raven]

What. Why spend that much on an avatar

[flat girder]

because am crazy

[hexed raven]

Look, i honestly believe you would do better doing it yourself over time

[unreal verge]

You may get it a bit cheaper if you offload the rigging part from the armature to someone else who is specialized to that

[vocal shard]

if she even knows what that means

[unreal verge]

Afaik avatar creators hate rigging and will let you pay a big premium for that alone

[rotund bluff]

word of advice. don't do it through vrc avatar makers go through a proven content creator

[lean nexus]

https://skribbl.io/?BsfduE2AIZCq

[rotund bluff]

sus link sus

[vocal shard]

oh yeah we had someone else here sunkissed or som that bought a 1k avatar and it flopped

[lean nexus]

its just a drawing game

[wind zealot]

oof

[vocal shard]

sus

[unreal verge]

I got a nice avatar from bought assets worth about $100

[lean nexus]

im so lonely..

[vocal shard]

#general-media gotchu

[flat girder]

Alright see you guys later maybe I'm going diving

[vocal shard]

gonna go casually diving guys

have fun go talk to some sharks for me will you

[flat girder]

Indeed

[unreal verge]

And if you buy an avatar consider only getting the assets but setting it up in unity yourself. That way you learn a bit of avi 3.0 which isn't actually hard and can edit your avi in the future.

[odd shell]

How can I rank up? I’ve been playing for a few months and I’m only at new user

[rotund bluff]

public worlds, friends list, uploads

[vocal shard]

your doing something horribly wrong then man, how many hours you got and where do you usually hang out

and do you talk alot

[obsidian notch]

Hello. When I join a game and go into the social menu the "Friend request" page goes missing. How could I fix that?

[vocal shard]

that row should only be there if someone has sent you a friend request thats pending otherwise it shouldnt show

if you mean the entire social menu page then thats not supposed to happen

[odd shell]

I think and I go between house in the rain and black cat among us murder 4,3,2

Sorry I took so long

[vocal shard]

432 hours

??

[fiery dragon]

i think 8

[wind zealot]

among us, murder 4, murder 3, murder 2 dum dum

[odd shell]

Thank you

[vocal shard]

ahh ok but the hours we need to know

[rotund bluff]

new user lasts a while without uploads. Don't worry about it. Even steam users eventually make trusted, never uploading anything.

[odd shell]

How long exactly will it take?

[rotund bluff]

there is no recipe. New user can last over 100 hours. Or significantly shorter. You have to play more, make friends and upload. Trusted can be reached in 300 hours or 1000+ hours. Depending on a lot of things.

[vocal shard]

no exactly but approx 100-150 hours

I got mine at like 130

[odd shell]

I’m going to grind then

[hollow verge]

Hey was wondering if anyone knew of any good sign language worlds to learn the language they use in vrchat? I’m getting an index finally and wanted to look at that(my channel is going to be based on disability and VR since I’m physically disabled myself)

[wind zealot]

ooof

perhaps internet is your best bet?

[hexed raven]

Ahhhh i'll dm you with the name, i have a very good One but rn i can't remember the name

I do know there is this groul called "helping hands" that have a lot of sign language worlds and avatars

[vocal shard]

yeah but the problem is sign language isnt universal apparently its different depending on the langugage spoken in the area

[hexed raven]

Yes indeed

[hollow verge]

Yeah why I want to see it.

[vocal shard]

according to my human geo class at least but they should REALLY make a universal sign language

[wind zealot]

rly?

[vocal shard]

if it doesnt already exist

[hexed raven]

Japanese is different than us English, uk English, or German sl or spanish sl

[wind zealot]

japanese is more than just "different"

[hollow verge]

Would make since. I just would like to show how VR can help with disabled people as well so that’s be appreciated Alpha

[hexed raven]

A lot of people go there to hang out and there is a screen with tutorials on how to sign a lof of stuff in asl, uk sl and gsl

[vocal shard]

I mean I would try to appeal to English sign language, or if a universal one exists do it if it has more users than english sign langugage

[hollow verge]

I’m English speaking myself so no worries there. I know basic sign language and how to spell in it

[worn oxide]

Probably a silly question, but does anyone else have the issue of blurred edges on things despite having set the IPD as accurately as I can?

[wind zealot]

that's more like a VR thing cuz of the lenses

[hollow verge]

Yeah. I think I have that all the time since I have the quest xD

[vocal shard]

yeah fortunately you forget about it when your immersed doing things

[worn oxide]

I've got a Vive Cosmos Elite

[hollow verge]

Yeah. Hopefully won’t see it as much on the Index in game

[worn oxide]

Alright

[hollow verge]

I think K D knows more than me. But is that with all headsets?

[wind zealot]

it should be

else the big boys in the vr race would fix that and sell it

[vocal shard]

ion much about the vive cosmos elite I just hear alot of shit being talked about it here lol

[vocal shard]

do the controllers cause you any problems playing vrchat on the vive cosmos?

question isnt related to your problem just curious

[worn oxide]

I haven't found them to cause me any problems yet, but I only really properly got everything set up today

[vocal shard]

whaddya guys think about the fallback feature?

poggy woggy

[floral rock]

Ooh, I found a sign language world, but I don't know if it was for VRChat sign language or something more traditional like ASL. Maybe search Sign Language or ASL in the worlds search?

[hollow verge]

Okay thanks appreciate it

[fickle pecan]

Hey im new but does anyone know what world has the drippy gecko or where to get it

[vocal shard]

can someone please help me download the oculus software on my D drive im doing everything it says but it seems to not work

[limber warren]

the black cat looks really different on Quest compared to PC but I actually like how it looks more on Quest

[fickle pecan]

lol am i not supposed to request

[covert nymph]

True

[limber warren]

in #avatar-search-old

[noble depot]

#avatar-search-old is the place to request for existing avatars c:

[limber warren]

looks better dimly lit like an actual fancy restaurant

[fickle pecan]

sorry

[noble depot]

you're fine! c:

[sacred otter]

were are the calls in this lol

[hexed raven]

I don't think there are

[noble depot]

In the discord no, though the game supports voice chat within instances c:

[hexed raven]

Yeah

[sacred otter]

:/

okk

[covert nymph]

Anyone down to play some vrchat with me is so dm me

[hidden latch]

i would if i could

[covert nymph]

Why cant you?

[hidden latch]

school

[covert nymph]

oof

[hidden latch]

i can in like 4 or 5 hours

[covert nymph]

okie dokie

[rancid jewel]

online class 😔

[wind zealot]

oof

good luck o7

[mild tapir]

Hello! Me and couple of my friends would like to go to darkest parts of VrChat! Like some clubs like The Golden Gator or something same style! Can you give us some recommendations?

😄

[steady sequoia]

Did an experiment to see if a MacBook Pro could run an index and VRchat. TLDR: yes! And not bad. https://twitter.com/dolphinaphinity/status/1372958374300631041?s=21

[hollow verge]

You guys know who’s in charge of the dungeon pve map? The one with the 4 classes. My friend and I tried it but wanted to tell them player 2 is broken

[wind zealot]

no, you need to look at the world creator

[languid beacon]

Pretty sure that’s Jar

[wind zealot]

jar made a pve dungeon?

[languid beacon]

Could be wrong

Either way when you are in a world you can view it’s creator on the menu, and browse their other worlds.

[vocal shard]

Why doesn't VRChat just fix their shit?

Properly

[wind zealot]

because it's actually hard and costs money?

[lucid sierra]

It doesn't cost money to fix it, it just takes time

[vocal shard]

They have the fucking money

[lucid sierra]

They're being funded

[languid beacon]

You should do it for free then.

[lucid sierra]

Yeah sure, I'd love to work in a group that has absolutely no cooperation

[vocal shard]

They keep breaking shit

[wind zealot]

it does cost money, the fact that they are being funded means that they need to repay that money later, they need to turn a profit, it's far easier to do by doing something new instead of fixing something old, look at any other company that doesn't want to fix their old shit

just like windows

[rancid jewel]

gaming

[languid beacon]

“Being funded” is not free money. You take as little money as possible because it’s borrowed money that needs to be given back. Ideally, you don’t use any of it at all and make your own source of income.

[lucid sierra]

Then why are they asking for money from VRC Plus?

[languid beacon]

Because that is their own source of income, to avoid needing funding

[vocal shard]

They have money they should use it to fix their game properly

[lucid sierra]

So they're using our money as their income is what you're saying

[rancid jewel]

to keep game up

[wind zealot]

to turn a profit

[lucid sierra]

It isn't at all to turn a profit

[languid beacon]

I don’t know their financial details but I imagine it is working toward paying back their investors.

[rancid jewel]

and updates

[wind zealot]

that's how capitalism works mate

[lucid sierra]

If they have funding from both Unity and Oculus, they wouldn't have to be asking people for money

[rancid jewel]

:/

[languid beacon]

You are making a lot of assumptions about VRChat’s finances that are not even remotely public information

[wind zealot]

are they getting funded by Unity? can you show any proof?

[stable folio]

You mean how they got like 5 million

[rancid jewel]

they still need it for updates, paying employees, did I mention updates?

[stable folio]

That was donated by htc and other companies?

[vocal shard]

I mean, we all know who funded VRC, thats public info

[languid beacon]

Investments are not donations.

[wind zealot]

also do not confuse funding and donations

[rancid jewel]

did i mention engineer gaming?

[stable folio]

Ah alright.

[noble depot]

Years ago, and that was an investment yeah

[lucid sierra]

And our donations aren't investments

[stable folio]

That makes it different I forgot 👀

[languid beacon]

Investments must be paid back. Donations do not.

[stable folio]

Not really

That's not how an investment works. They just assume the investment will pay back

[rancid jewel]

i don't even know what caused this conversation

[stable folio]

That's a loan you're thinking of

How vrchat can't keep their stuff stable. That's being said, I will cut them slack on that

[rancid jewel]

hi zuvali

[noble depot]

I mean yeah, but if your investments aren't paying back, then nobody's gonna invest in you in the future

[stable folio]

They are getting growth year over year and they have to store a lot of data thanks to massive files

[noble depot]

hi! c:

[stable folio]

Sure, but it was said it 'had to be paid back'

I'm just addressing that.

[rancid jewel]

how are you? im getting ready for spring break, in which ill do absolutely nothing.

[noble depot]

i def getcha, though for the future of the company I'd argue it does have to be paid back

[stable folio]

Hell, with htcs investment, they're probably wanting other benefits like tracker sales and free advertising for their products

[noble depot]

decent! gonna eat in a bit lol

[rancid jewel]

nice, what are you having?

[languid beacon]

As an investor. Yes, you assume you will be paid back. But as the recipient, you only take the money with the plan to pay it back or provide an ROI.

[noble depot]

wontons'n stuff lol

[rancid jewel]

cool

[stable folio]

And with how successful vrchat has been on and as a whole, it's been very good money for htc thanks to people buying vr sets for the purpose of vrchat

[fervent storm]

ello

[stable folio]

No

[fiery dragon]

8u9vr runs pretty good on a gtx 1060 3gb

its harder to notice low fps in vr

[languid beacon]

I find the opposite is true.

[stable folio]

👀 are you sure?

I will say if it puts up anything above 45

It's golden thanks to reproject

[vocal shard]

Anyway I'm done with vrchat breaking shit fix your shit properly or you are going lose fans and players

[stable folio]

I think depending on the experience anything from around 60 frames and up is good

[rancid jewel]

legit half of the times i become no longer immersed it's because i noticed my fps suddenly drop

[fervent storm]

its a early access game what do you expect

[stable folio]

Vrchat is a permanent early access lmao

[fiery dragon]

idk i played vr in situations where i would normally get 40 fps on deskytop and i was fine

[rancid jewel]

to be fair it's been like that for 6+ years

[fervent storm]

crap

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[vocal shard]

Yeah because they won't fix their shit

[stable folio]

Check out one of the other social vr games. They're all in rough shape

[vocal shard]

you can go to cvr or neo

they are pretty great, small circle, appriciate it while it lasts

[rancid jewel]

appreciate before the toxicity comes

[stable folio]

It's too late. There's mods in most of the public worlds on those

[rancid jewel]

awh

[stable folio]

They're worth a shot. I think it's healthy to have this competition against VRChat

Since vrchat has largely enjoyed an unopposed "market"

[noble depot]

also def note that the developers of CVR have specifically stated not to make comparsions between it and VRChat, both games are def allowed to coexist and competition is good in the market o:

[vocal shard]

Oh hey desick

[stable folio]

Howdy chief

[regal furnace]

true, im really looking forward on how CVR will evolve in the coming years and how it will impact vrchat

[stable folio]

I'm not sure why, since they're literally competing head to head at this point.

It's like 'dont compare cheerios and raisin bran'

Like why

[noble depot]

yus! o:

[rancid jewel]

ye competition is good

[regal furnace]

just look at the new GPUs from NVidia and AMD which are still not available. the result of fierce competition between these 2, and if the rumors are true for next gen, it will be even more exciting

[noble depot]

also imo, the comparisons don't really make sense atm anyway, since CVR is doomed to face the exact same issues VRChat is facing, assuming they got a similar playersize
They'd still have to deal with server outages, player surges (especially around Christmas and New Years), upgrading Unity versions, etc

[stable folio]

Yeah exactly

[stable folio]

Then how does it not make sense to compare them

[vocal shard]

nvidia is investing alot into those autonomous vehicles and creating extremely powerful and efficient processors and gpus

[rancid jewel]

inb4 VRChat unity update that breaks half of the content

[mild tapir]

Am anyone knows some NSFW rooms in VRCHAT? Asking for a friend!

[rancid jewel]

what

[regal furnace]

uganda

[vocal shard]

Agreed

[regal furnace]

no wait, that was the horror world

[vocal shard]

nsfw rooms aint allowed dum dum

[regal furnace]

ehm ehm ehm
Void club

[noble depot]

CVR has a fraction of the playerbase that VRChat has, so it still def remains to be seen how their servers will scale

[vocal shard]

use the words "cuddle"

[mild tapir]

Ah darn

[stable folio]

That's literally a point of comparison then, since they operate in the same niche of vr socialization

Especially with custom avatars that are user created

[regal furnace]

is that a swearword on this cristian minecraft discord server? 👀

[vocal shard]

Uh oh.

[rancid jewel]

poop

[regal furnace]

[wind zealot]

. . .

[wind zealot]

nsfw is allowed, as long as it's kept private in private rooms

=)

[vocal shard]

nope devs already said its not allowed at all

[noble depot]

I def getcha, I just think they currently fill different niches of the VR social game niche if that makes sense? lol
CVR's kinda in the early VRChat days of popularity atm, though I def hope they'll succeed too c:

[vocal shard]

confusing I know

[wind zealot]

then why does the sdk conatin the very nsfw part in it?

[noble depot]

It's not, section 12D of the TOS doesn't mention private/public instances whatsoever
The SDK NSFW tag is from a dilapidated version of VRChat, and doesn't do anything anymore

[vocal shard]

the tip ingame is misleading for alot of people

[noble depot]

the tag and ingame tips should be reworked, though

[wind zealot]

tos got updated again?

[noble depot]

nope, just a really heckin' old SDK tag that doesn't do anything

[wind zealot]

i read tos some time ago

so something def changed

[vocal shard]

maybe so but yeah now you know

[noble depot]

its here if you want to check it out o: https://hello.vrchat.com/legal
Section 12 (12d especially) would be relevant here

[vocal shard]

also ingame reports actually do things apparently

not just trust

[wind zealot]

9.4 c changed

well 12 d is a quick way to attempt to murder the community

good luck to VRC dev team on that one, i hope that the community does still stay

[noble depot]

That rule's been around for a vv heckin' long time o:

[wind zealot]

can't imagine them not going "we don't take any responsibility for the content uploaded" way like a normal company

[vocal shard]

all of the very legally obtained avatars that were faithful remakes of characters from other games

juicy

[mild tapir]

@regal furnace sorry

[odd heron]

still no audio bug, loading world, avatar loading bug fixes....? damn

[vocal shard]

dammm tuff

[odd heron]

been 3 months lol

[vocal shard]

Where do I find cool vr fireeendss

[hexed raven]

Here, or public worlds with lots of people

[vocal shard]

I will just come up to people and randomly stare at em till they feel comfortable enough to friend me

LOL

[hexed raven]

Sounds like a good start

[vocal shard]

That actually worked for someone on me lol

but they said a thing every now and then

[tight bane]

I'm a cool vr friend and Im bouta hop on

[vocal shard]

Can anyone help me or do the attaching of the bones to the mesh?

#avatars-2-general or #avatar-general might help

[hollow acorn]

That’s a few channels down my friend

^^ lol

[vocal shard]

It is killing me inside

[hexed raven]

I can try to help but maybe later? I can't rn :(

[hollow ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnFRFRn5As

so this video shows the ik system vs the local system

I was planning on getting trackers to dance but reconsidering given theres no point since shuffling looks pretty bad on the network

However this video is a year old so I'm just wondering if they have fixed/changed it yet ?

[ruby needle]

That video is very old

[vocal shard]

it's still isnt smooth tho

[hollow ginkgo]

yeah

https://youtu.be/Y5yi4cwIRIM in this video which is even older

its smooth as heck

did they change it or something ?

[ruby needle]

But miles better then the first itterations

[twin fractal]

a long time ago

[vocal shard]

we werent on networked IK before

[hollow ginkgo]

ohhh

[twin fractal]

have you not seen anyone dance recently?

[vocal shard]

so it was leagues better

[hollow ginkgo]

I have seen someone shuffling

[vocal shard]

even now, networked IK still isn't as good as before they switched

[ruby needle]

No, i mean network ik now is better then when it came new.

[hollow ginkgo]

ohhh

[vocal shard]

still not as good as before networked ik

[hollow ginkgo]

im guessing they switched due to

performance issues

[vocal shard]

you still have that slight delay/jitter

[hollow ginkgo]

oo

[vocal shard]

yep, the change was needed for Quest

[ruby needle]

PC isnt out either

It's also taxing the bigger the instance.

And brings noticeable performance beneift

[hollow ginkgo]

so pc only servers are also network ik?

[ruby needle]

pc only servers?

[hollow ginkgo]

like

[twin fractal]

it's the whole game

[hollow ginkgo]

freeze tag is only supported by pc

[hollow ginkgo]

makes sense

[ruby needle]

everything uses the same ik

[hollow ginkgo]

damn

[ruby needle]

else cross platform wouldn't work

[hollow ginkgo]

So would it be a good idea to invest in fbt ?

[ruby needle]

But again, you should try to find a modern comparrison from the later half of 2020 maybe.

Not that old video

[hollow ginkgo]

mm

[ruby needle]

Even if it where extremely choppy, that shouldn't really affect your FBT choice.
It's still vastly different then without.

[hollow ginkgo]

true

ight, thanks for the help !

[abstract skiff]

I got VRchat connection time out like 5 TIMES

[vocal shard]

Guys

Why can't I hear people

[twin fractal]

audio bug

[vocal shard]

I need to restart?

[twin fractal]

restart

[vocal shard]

Oh ok

[twin fractal]

only way to fix unfortunately

[reef yoke]

i had the same problem and i got a link sent to me that fixed it so if restarting doesnt work i can try to get the link again

[sharp saddle]

Link?

[vocal shard]

What link

[upper cradle]

I dont like ghis color name tag I want a new one

[sharp saddle]

What's wrong with seafoam green?

[reef yoke]

it was a link that downloaded something that fixed the problem

someone who was also having that problem emailed the support team and thats what they sent

[upper cradle]

Its very ugly rather be drain brown or a rose red

[sharp saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You can always unboost and return to white.

[upper cradle]

And be all the colors hu

Spectrum of color black is no color n ends at white witch is everycolor

[sharp saddle]

...What?

[vocal shard]

I dont know if she ever talks clearly

[sharp saddle]

With a name like that...

[twin fractal]

[vocal shard]

Restart worked for me

[sharp saddle]

On the site?

[vocal shard]

No 😂

Sometimes it does, but no.

I’m sorry!

Just gonna.. ignore that lol

Anyway, yeah it’s hit and miss lewdicrous

[ruby needle]

§11. Please don't ping the VRChat Team. They're here and identifying themselves willingly, don't make them regret that decision.

For official vrchat support: https://help.vrchat.com

[vocal shard]

They’re talking about the racist memes, not support for the site. Probably not the best person to ping but yeah

[ruby needle]

I see.
In cases like that, please ping the active chat mod role

[flat girder]

I found a queen slime avatar its great

[rancid jewel]

woo

[vocal shard]

guys how do i use animations on avatars when im on keyboard

been tyring to figure it out for the past 30 min

[ruby needle]

animations or gestures?

[vocal shard]

animations

[rancid jewel]

you can do shift + f1-8 to go through multiple hand gestures
you can hold the r key to open up the action menu, which should have expressions.

[ruby needle]

open the circle menu and see if they there, else tryt he gestures with either left or right shift (depening on which hand you wanna use) and the n F1 - F8

[ruby burrow]

I just saw the latest iteration of Facebook Horizons avatars. I'm feeling slightly more safe today, that Facebook may not take over the world afterall.

[vocal shard]

ok thank you ill try that

[wraith lagoon]

Hm

[tacit plank]

How do I upload an avatar as BOTH PC and Quest?

I uploaded one as Quest just now and I can't use it on PC still

[rancid jewel]

upload to pc, change build from windows and mac to android, upload again.

its change from android to windows and mac and then upload again for your situation

[tacit plank]

Ah I just upload it as both? Thanks!

[rancid jewel]

uploading it again just updates the avatar, instead of making an entirely new one.

yeah pretty much

[tacit plank]

But it will have both then, right? PC and Quest

[rancid jewel]

yes

[tacit plank]

Alright, thanks, that's easy to work with

[rancid jewel]

ye no problem

[tacit plank]

Is there a mobile shader which can replace the transparent/fade of PC? On all of them my blush is broken

[fiery dragon]

i just played vr for the first time pog

i got motion sick after like 3 hours

yea

i was also purposely throwing myself off cliffs and shit

and standing

i cant rlly feel low frames in vr too, it looks like its just animations that are more laggy but looking around and controls are just as responsive it seems

[honest forge]

@tacit plank use the "additive" mobile shader

[midnight stag]

hello

oi

[vocal shard]

wagwan my driller

enjoying vrchat?

[strange turret]

Last night I upgraded my steam vrc account to an actual vrc account, but it has only merged 2 of my favorite world categories and none of my avatars. I'm not sure if it's because it is still merging or something went wrong. How do you tell if it is still merging and when it is done

[tacit plank]

Thanks

[vocal shard]

:what:

[wind zealot]

merging steme + vrc accounts is the worst thing you could do

[ruby burrow]

Eh? Why would you say that?

Not sure what happened for Merp, but generally it's a routine process with no issues.

A steam account is kinda useless anyway if you intend to continue playing the game, so it's either throw it away and make a VRC one, or merge it.

Makes me wonder if they'll ever just remove the ability to register via steam accounts in the future.

[strange turret]

I'm guessing it's because I did it and shut down my pc to go to sleep, and that stopped it?

[vocal shard]

that happens online it already has all the infomation about your favorite lists it needs

I would assume at least

servers probably did a dumb on you

[strange turret]

maybe lol

but, if it's still the same as it is today tomorrow, then I know something's up

[vocal shard]

according to their doc, it's supposed to take up to 1 hour

[rancid jewel]

somebody in #vrchat-general-1 said that there will be maintenance at 6pm pst, any information on that?

[vocal shard]

if after that it's not ok, you should contact their support

[vocal shard]

check announcement

[vocal shard]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-201841

[rancid jewel]

nothing saying anything about maintenance at 6pm
instead its load stuff load stuff and latest devblog

[vocal shard]

Exactly.

[rancid jewel]

k cool they arent telling the truth
not sure why'd they do that.

[vocal shard]

people love spreading bullshit in this server

[unreal verge]

*everywhere

[viral void]

Is there anything that I can do to fix the issue of the friendlist not loading at all? it's been a couple weeks for me now, I see only a few people on and my favorites shows always offline

[rancid jewel]

🤷 just wait i guess

[viral void]

;-;

It just makes me not want to play at all, my friends are able to get on and hang out and I can never see them showing

They're mostly from the US and I'm in Italy so I assume that's why but idk

[vocal shard]

no the issues are for pretty much everyone

[viral void]

But then how are some people able to see them?

I tried logging in at different times too, it never works. But I see people streaming and having friends around

[vocal shard]

maybe it has a factor after all im not a server expert

hi

know people who in the us with same problems tho

[viral void]

I also tried to fully uninstall VRChat, deleted chace and such

[rancid jewel]

just
wait until they do something about it

[viral void]

I guess, I hope it'll be fixed soon

[paper thorn]

why all the random internal errors?

[night lark]

new up date farded

[fresh iris]

Does this patch brake the fav avatar system for the 50th time?

[rancid jewel]

new build pog

[bleak copper]

i think i rn had the most intense moments in vr chat

[spring mist]

how do u join a world with the number at the end of it

[rough prism]

Wouldn’t doubt it

[arctic elm]

lets hope the changes they made with the API stuff works well so they dont need to disable the friends list this weekend

[jovial kestrel]

Fingers crossed that it's enough.

[rancid jewel]

my cat stole my chair

[molten atlas]

Anyone want to join my VRchat family

[naive osprey]

;-;

[naive osprey]

yes, i wanna be the weird young grandpa

[molten atlas]

Really?

[naive osprey]

yes

[rocky thorn]

oh hey does this update mean that I'll finally see online friends when they're actually online

and wont have to restart my game

[rancid jewel]

i hope so

[rocky thorn]

yay

because thats a problem!

[thick scarab]

i remember the last year that was a problem and it lasted like 6 months

what is FinalIK?

ooh i see

[rocky thorn]

i will have all the legs

my vrchat character will have 47 legs

[rare estuary]

im just nervous cause im paying a pretty penny for the commission and i dont want it to all go to waste

[rocky thorn]

😟

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 33160 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

yeah about 33160 ppl wanna play

[limpid dust]

the servers today are bad I cant even connect

[vocal shard]

Did they lower avatar functions

changing avatars is so hard sometimes

#announcements

[limpid dust]

I think so because I couldnt see anyone's avatar

[hard burrow]

They just sent out a patch.

[vocal shard]

is there a auto show user avatar because its boring to go to each profile and hit show avatar
^@ me

Are there any attack on titan fans here?

[pastel portal]

Change safety settings so all avatars show by default?

[calm carbon]

Is there a good Prop Hunt world for VRChat yet?

[hidden veldt]

Could there be some announcement about 503s please

These shadow disables are great and all but would like some sort of an announcement

[limpid dust]

not sure but I am looking for one what do normally play when you do prop hunt

[lament siren]

Are fallback avatars out yet?

[sharp saddle]

No.

Still in Open Beta.

[lament siren]

Cool

[verbal plaza]

I feel ya. I get the Disconnected then put in the same instens over and over. So i think im done trying for today :/

[old sable]

@verbal plaza u sure thats not ur internet being wwonky tho

[verbal plaza]

yup im sure

[old sable]

and yes trhere trying to prevent the measures s the last weekend had but at this rate i think a better host that knows how to load banlance wqould help xD then again maybe cloudflaree sucks

when it comes to fl;agging false events that look like ddos but when its just more activity

[verbal plaza]

yeah i had the samme like now last weekend but what can one do

Im sure they will work it out 🙂

[old sable]

like the menu alolways hAs lag but ig more servers isnt thwwe key the hosts load balancing prototical is garbage ig the AWS host thjat is Or more servers just for the menus and crap to take the load off the sservbers that handle the playerbase?

[vocal shard]

Loyal to VRChat til the end! :3

[old sable]

i dont no lol and yep

like are the servers for both the plaayers and the worlds and menu ? if thats the case would seperating that stuff help?

cus then the servers dont work as hard ?

[calm carbon]

Haven't found a good VR prophunt yet

[old sable]

with handling the same stuff on one server i doont no ideas tho

[verbal plaza]

Dont work like that sadly :/

[vocal shard]

It does for me :3

[old sable]

like the woorlds etc on some servers then players on there own servers instead of all on one?

[limpid dust]

I dont know why I keep trying even though it always fails

[old sable]

like are there servers that just handle the menus and worlds and the players on a seperate one?

to try to reduce load

[limpid dust]

its always bad on weekends

[old sable]

but thats servers in a nutshell

cus improper load balacing measures?

" the increasing number of interactions between VRChat players has tested the limits of our current architecture."

thats defently a main issue

[vocal shard]

From sounds of it there's more people then they expected and the architecture cant keep up

[sterile ingot]

So about that HTC face tracker . . . the technology for expression tracking seems to be ramping up (including eye tracking). Does VRChat have any plans on their implementation?

[rancid jewel]

well no wonder why there was a ton of server issues recently
theres a cat in the server room

[golden scaffold]