At least they are not having big death currently.
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
brittle nest
i could only assume it's other people's avatars then
brittle nest
At least they are not having big death currently.
yea true 🤣
vocal shard
Are you on AMD? Regardless, try setting the process to high priority(real-time is an option, but not recommended). If on AMD, you may have luck toying around with what cores the game runs on.
steel ingot
brittle nest
objective failed successfully
idle drum
Vrchat went boom?
vocal shard
Try the priority thing I told you.
brittle nest
cant be, i have the same graphics card
vocal shard
And maybe check task manager as a whole to see what is being used. You may want to check your temperatures too.
It does slow down when loading stuff in.
noble depot
In public instances, RAM
oh, should be fine then o:
it's a pretty demanding world nonetheless though
I just know that 16gb isn't enough in my experience lmao
vocal shard
I compared our processors, and while mine is slightly better(yours is better single-core), they are pretty similar. I may have the same issues if I ever loaded up there, unless my GPU would help.
hard blaze
i know the servers are dying but i can't connect to anything at all, vrc times out, going to the website times out and gives me an error and updating an avatar doesn't work at all. Just want to know if this issue is only on my end or not
vocal shard
i know the servers are dying but i can't connect to anything at all, vrc times o...
I imagine you are not the only one having them, but I do not know that for a fact.
brittle nest
why dont you switch them
vocal shard
I learned realtime priority is interesting by the way. It basically tells the computer not to worry about anything other than that program, at the cost of core functionality, even mouse movement. 
Rip.
And yep. It can make mouse movement get into bad shape.
brittle nest
I learned realtime priority is interesting by the way. It basically tells the co...
huh. well i guess mouse movement doesn't really matter when playing vr anyway
vocal shard
It basically tells the computer that the program is so important that whatever it says to do, do it, pull all stops.
That is my understanding of what I was reading.
prime ore
server down
noble depot
midnight obsidian
It seems like all of the VRChat devs are busy with the problems we've been having these last few days, but it is getting pretty annoying that I gotta wait for them to fix up my blueprint ID of my world :/
prime ore
no, not announcements. server is down. no mod response
vocal shard
server down
What do you mean by server down? That is too vague.
cyan breach
😔
midnight obsidian
Don't take me wrong, fixing those issues take priority, but atleast a message that they're looking into the issue.
prime ore
the game server is down.
cyan breach
server down kekw
woeful elm
Servers' down?
noble depot
Don't take me wrong, fixing those issues take priority, but atleast a message th...
Also see #announcements - they're aware of the issues and are actively looking into them
prime ore
like 100% down.
noble depot
I can def tell that it's not 100% down, otherwise this discord would be explosive - you might just have problems connecting unfortunately
midnight obsidian
^
prime ore
no, me and alot of others got dced at same time and cant get back on
midnight obsidian
On friday, it was having a full on meltdown, lots of people couldn't join, but there were still like 20k on.
prime ore
login server may be down but game server may be fine
cyan breach
@vocal shard
vocal shard
@cyan breach
cyan breach
kregasm
prime ore
or might be a diff issue, weird
noble depot
I logged in just fine just now - try using a VPN to see if that'd help? might be an issue with some endpoint you're reaching o:
midnight obsidian
^
Thing is, if you're anywhere else but in the usa
You don't wanna use anything like a vpn, my ping already is 200
tulip wave
Did vrc fix its self
twin fractal
when servers are completely down his discord is in slow mode and there's a new message every 0.1 seconds
vocal shard
it never fixes itself but yeah.. some users are getting some issues some are not.
kindred dew
So invitations aren't working? What's going on? There has been issues since like Thursday
vocal shard
I think there have been issues longer than that.
analog basin
I'm also unable to connect..
scenic echo
Server is down! Time to go outside and see the light of day again LOL
vocal shard
Issues are never ending, but thats life.
analog basin
Thanks admins as long as it's not just me
river kernel
If vrchat relised what they did it was better before they unblocked the crashers just my opinion
faint lion
God i was about to play till i saw there were server issues
vocal shard
It seems as though it is not too widespread of an issue, at least not yet.
river kernel
There is a crasher going around with a penis avatar to get streamers ban
vocal shard
There is a crasher going around with a penis avatar to get streamers ban
just record them crashing someone and make a formal report with that solid evidence in #moderation-reports
faint lion
Crashers live in their dads basement
modest cargo
I seen'DT it
river kernel
When i do report I will get suspended just saying thats why I can't go back to vrchat latley
They got to much porn going around vrchat
noble depot
You won't get suspended for reporting a TOS breaking avatar, unless you're the one using it lol
noble depot
Record it (using something like Shadowplay or AMD's equivalent, OBS, or Windows' built-in recording feature in the game bar) and send that, along with any other information you have (screenshots, video, output log, etc) to #moderation-reports
Twitch moderation is done differently than VRChat's lol (and is not related - getting banned on Twitch won't ban you from VRChat, or vice versa)
river kernel
Yeah but always back fires me somehow 😕
It's cause fortnight users hate vrchat users
vocal shard
just because twitch moderation sucks doesnt mean vrchat devs will ban you for no reason
noble depot
^
The reason the TOS breaking avatars are still around in the first place is very likely since people don't report them
hence they stay around for much longer than they would have, had people properly reported them
river kernel
Will see 👀 I do report through in game
noble depot
Instructions are in the #moderation-reports channel - do it on the website c:
river kernel
But nothing done when reporting in game when I stream 7 to 5 days aweek
noble depot
In-game reporting isn't nearly as effective as reporting online
vocal shard
ingame reports dont do much
noble depot
not to mention that you can't add attachments to your report, etc
vocal shard
mod reports is the way to go Zuvali is right
river kernel
Mks I keep an eye on that because crashers comes from Fortnight and cod and also from omegle
Because they even said it in someone lobby
I hope they get full ip ban
noble depot
Again, not much can be done without a proper report, sent through the VRChat website with evidence
viral geyser
is anyone else getting server overloading issues? its the same issue as new years
noble depot
#announcements - they're aware of the issues, and are looking into them c:
If you're having issues logging in, try using a VPN and see if that helps? might be an issue with some endpoint between you and VRChat's server o:
viral geyser
ty ty just joined the discord so i didnt know where to look
noble depot
you're fine! and yw c:
viral geyser
i dont have a vpn so rip
cyan breach
private
surreal crypt
no, that's why they're private
noble depot
Private avatars no, though note that people can turn off their cloning ability for all avatars in the settings
meager solstice
No
dusk nova
So I have a Quest 2 and I'm tired of not being able to see/use my PC avatars. Would it be better experience/performance wise to order an Oculus Link for my Quest 2 or just go ahead and buy a Rift S? I have the money for both so idc about the costs.
noble depot
I'd probably say get a link cable (either official or unofficial - I'd recommend the 10ft Anker cable at ~$22 from what I've seen though o: )
regal furnace
or virtual desktop if you have a 5ghz router
noble depot
^
obv your experience with VD will depend on how fast your wifi is, too
surreal crypt
if you already have a quest i'd just get a link cable or use a third party app like virtual desktop or ivry
regal furnace
or alvr (apparantly a free alternative to VD)
surreal crypt
oh right alvr exists
noble depot
doesn't really sound like they're prohibiting it from that quote, though? o:
regal furnace
cloud streaming is like streaming via stadia
surreal crypt
that's only for cloud
ruby needle
cloud streaming is like streaming via stadia
^this.
Although, it's still very weird to make such prohibit thing. 
midnight obsidian
Buying a quest for anything pc related vr nowadays.
regal furnace
yes they do (wireless is more comfortable than tethered after all)
you can get 90% wireless feeling with a pulley system, but the wire is still there and you have to keep that in mind
ruby needle
nah
Pulley's dont even come close
And imo polley's suck even more then just straight wire
regal furnace
the only thing i notice from my pulleys is a slight pull on the back, but thats it already
ruby needle
if you're standing in just one position, than they can do their thing
but god forbid you trying to actively moove around a lot from the center.
And you also need way more cable lengtht
regal furnace
i have a 2x2m playspace and really dont have any problems (aside from the very edges where the pull can be quite strong)
ruby needle
that's tiny
regal furnace
not really
ruby needle
well, maybe not tiny, but small tho
regal furnace
my entire room is 3x4m in total, im even surprised i was able to make that much room for VR
ruby needle
still, the pulleys are for me personally a downgrade in cable reach per given cable length,
And tugging towards the center point / last pulley instead of downwards no matter where you are.
Also ducking / laying down is more eh.
Unless you have very light pulleys that have nearly no resistance at all, but then the cable would be in the way all the time as it'd be flying mid air instad of beeing lifted away 😄
which is also imo no improvement.
regal furnace
laying down/sitting down on the floor is not really good for me anyways, i have 2 broken knees that would have been replaced if i were older
the Kiwi V2's are only 30 bucks after all, and for what they deliver its a good price honestly
ruby needle
You can only change your display name to my knowledge.
you can also login with the email, if that helps 
meager rover
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804912849603788840/817945277864083456/unknown.png anyone know the creator/name of this avatar?
ruby needle
@meager rover #avatar-search-old
regal furnace
there is no way (aside from creating a new account) to change your login name
only if you record/stream
because you cant really show a round view on a square monitor without getting black borders
probably render more than the headset
vocal shard
Well this sucks. Learned I'm not getting a swank new laptop like my twin so now I'm not going to be able to even start or make my VRChat avatar unless I throw it to someone else and pay them or something. Which I don't wanna do, it's mine.
Basically it can't open blender so yeah, can't go in to fix it even if I did the thing.
regal furnace
index and quest arent even targeted at the same group
native lichen
i am waiting for 2018 unity to install
loud gale
Yikes at the laptop thing
native lichen
^^^^^^^^
light pilot
Yeah but you get what you pay for. The index is superior to anything oculus has put out. And I say that as a rift user
vocal shard
Yeah but you get what you pay for. The index is superior to anything oculus has ...
I mean, the Quest is the superior value proposition.
light pilot
Not saying the others are bad, just that the index is higher quality
native lichen
Yeah but you get what you pay for. The index is superior to anything oculus has ...
It'd be better for me because I'm a beatsaber player. ( i think )
vocal shard
Not saying the others are bad, just that the index is higher quality
It also requires a top dollar computer along with the super expensive headset.
Whereas the Quest requires nothing but itself.
quest headset with index knuckes and tracking op
noble depot
Index has adjustable lenses and a higher FOV though o: (though FOV in VR is kinda subjective based on the user)
native lichen
i hate link though how it disconnects randomly
vocal shard
imagine using official link cable
native lichen
imagine using official link cable
i use my charging cable
vocal shard
Imagine linking.
light pilot
Whereas the Quest requires nothing but itself.
Well, the standalone quest is pathetically weak. I mean, have you seen the limitations on avatars and worlds for it in vrchat?
vocal shard
how do you play on a 2ft cable? or is the rift s one longer
vocal shard
Well, the standalone quest is pathetically weak. I mean, have you *seen* the lim...
If you try to use a hammer to drill a screw, is it the hammer's fault?
It is certainly limited, but it is a really solid headset with good capability.
jovial flicker
Well, the standalone quest is pathetically weak. I mean, have you *seen* the lim...
Imagine caring about the limitations of vrchat
vocal shard
VRChat is a case where not only are things not optimized for it, some do not even try to build for Quest, making it impossible to even try to load them in, since it requires an Android build of a project that people do not do.
max saftey settings ---> Robot mode
light pilot
I'd rather not cater to questies seeing as how most are screeching children or people with a misplaced sense of superiority
native lichen
i use my charging cable
and that's probably why it unplugs every time i play vrchat.
past tartan
@everyone
light pilot
Omfg
light pilot
Somebody boutta get banned lol
past tartan
@everyone @everyone @everyone @everyone @everyone @everyone @everyone
jovial flicker
I'd rather not cater to questies seeing as how most are screeching children or p...
Holy shit dude you sound like such a redditor
noble depot
at-everyone's don't work here
vocal shard
I'd rather not cater to questies seeing as how most are screeching children or p...
Ah, the over-generalization. Gotta love it.
past tartan
@here
noble depot
nor dos that
vocal shard
I like Quest because it is the superior value proposition. Period. There is no objection to this I have heard.
Dismissing people who do not want to empty their bank accounts to enjoy VR is rather silly.
scenic echo
Does VRC plus buy you known rank or trusted rank?
noble depot
It's a small boost to your trust score, not a guaranteed rank-up c:
vocal shard
Does VRC plus buy you known rank or trusted rank?
You can..kind of argue that. If you buy it when user, you should rank up to known or be very close to it.
noble depot
It'll be enough to get you from Visitor to New User most likely, but it has rapidly diminishing returns as the ranks go up
jovial flicker
How they expect us to rank up when we can’t even fucking play
vocal shard
What it does is boost your trust level a bit.
noble depot
If you're already pretty close to getting Known or Trusted though, it may boost you up a rank
vocal shard
It'll be enough to get you from Visitor to New User most likely, but it has rapi...
According to VRChat, that is a guarantee of getting new user at least.
If I am not misremembering.
noble depot
I'm pretty sure on that too, I just don't wanna assume and broadcast it as fact lol
vocal shard
I think it says it somewhere in VRChat's info stuff.
winged socket
I think that’s also the worlds you’re in.
ruby needle
The common world's like pug or black cat sure attract more then other less common world, but it's not even closely to 90%, not even 50
winged socket
It’s been over a month since last time I saw a crasher in a public lobby.
vocal shard
The way to avoid issues is typically do not join super full lobbies.
winged socket
Maybe just go to different worlds?
ruby needle
Like, 1 / 10, maybe 2/10 violating people in public worlds happens regularly, but again,. 90% (So 9 out of 10 people you meet) is massively exaggerated
vocal shard
Stay out of super full lobbies.
viral geyser
he's actually not incorrect, the past few times ive been in the black cat theres been people crashing us. its why i avoid public lobbies
winged socket
That really seems more exaggerated but it’s also a demographics thing.
viral geyser
its not 90% but is is a high percent
ruby needle
@viral geyser It does happen but sadly it takes only one to be a dick to make a lobby look bad
but it really is often just 1 or 2
And not the whole lobby
noble depot
90% is def a bit high, though I'd recommend staying away from public instances of very popular worlds too
viral geyser
^^
winged socket
You could also just turn your safety settings to max then they can’t touch you.
ruby needle
It really depends, i have some friends who like hanging out in publics and i sometimes stay with them and most of the times it really is okay.
Sure the chatting quality is rather low, but nothing to bad going on for most of the times.
Sure some screaming or other annoying and sometimes against TOS stuff does happen every now and then, but that do be it and is FAR from the general experience across the whole time.
(The map's we use are often Black Cat and Japan Shrine, so that is quite popular map's too)
vocal shard
I could keep repeating what I said, but I am a broken record around here a good bit.
winged socket
Just turn off shaders / particles for everyone who isn’t a friend.
Problem solved.
open relic
anyone else having issues signing into the sdk/ticket hub?
late void
Cuz that's the place to go troll I guess
winged socket
I’ve honestly never been to a black cat instance with trolls.
sharp heron
I assume we still know absolutely nothing of what's going on with the current status of VRChat since last night (the last announcement)?
Like, does anyone know if one of the devs chirped in here and said something?
distant rampart
It really depends, i have some friends who like hanging out in publics and i som...
Depends on the situation, I run into crashers in the black cat but the pug my god
Pub pugs are just asking to run into a bad time
Atleast during my months run of going between the cat and pug, thats what I've experienced.
karmic harbor
Yall i need help i uploaded my world and when I tried to join it it keeps loading then getting back to loading screen and returning me to my home world
winged socket
Atleast during my months run of going between the cat and pug, thats what I've e...
I’ve had zero issues on either map.
distant rampart
I’ve had zero issues on either map.
How often do you go in pubs?
I got almost daily on certain intervals especially pugs, so I run into alot of familiar faces.
winged socket
Once or twice a week I’ll drift through.
loud gale
How long + How often will you switch to another room of the worl
Yeah it's cause you get lucky.
distant rampart
I do voice work so I am constantly hopping around and exploring each instance, so I run into a good chunk of it.
loud gale
I barely join the game 2 weeks ago, but I ran into a few crashers/crazy fucking fx people.
winged socket
I don’t stay long because I like to stick to the people I fit in with.
loud gale
It's normally pug/black cat that has ever happen in.
distant rampart
I go to anyone, I find it fun to engage with as many people as possible.
But the pug has more crashers atm more than black cats but every now and then you run into a gang.
loud gale
A gang...?
distant rampart
Theres currently a bot in the pug as well that sometimes goes to server to server killing them, it spawns in and everyone dies, I managed to save myself with settings, but they get 90% of the servers.
Yeah theres quite a few, that hang around in publics, depending on when you get on, I run into them often.
I'm not really about that life so I try not to talk to them.
loud gale
Learning about them just pushes me to realize I might befriend them...
twin fractal
gangs don't have as much presence as they used too
distant rampart
I wouldn't say that, I see them quite often but most of the major ones def
There is a current one in the pug that prioritizes harassing users and crashing people, anyone who goes against their "vrchat bible" gets yeeted, they dont like me cause I didn't agree with them, and they use cheats to teleport to me and try to crash me as well.
Yeah going to private worlds would greatly limit my performance.
So I just deal with it half the time, annoying as it may be.
vocal shard
How do you expect to not meet a "gang"
ruby needle
set up the safety settings and the separate particle limiter appropriately, and you should be safe against most people and crashers
winged socket
I mean if you play with people in friends plus worlds you still meet new people.
distant rampart
set up the safety settings and the separate particle limiter appropriately, and ...
Some people have gotten smart tho, there are some that can even bypass still.
twin fractal
I mean you meet new people in friends+
ruby needle
Some people have gotten smart tho, there are some that can even bypass still.
I did say most. 
distant rampart
Going in pugs rn is playing with fire if you go at the wrong time.
unreal verge
I made most of my friends in friends+ worlds
ruby needle
winged socket
Friends + is just public without the trolls.
distant rampart
Friends+ can still be trolled if someone leaks it, one of the crasher groups in the pug does that and it works.
regal furnace
friends+ are the weirder public worlds
change my mind
twin fractal
less trolls but more drama
vocal shard
Has a mod said that? I said do not join super full lobbies, but I am not a mod on my end. Public lobbies are great, just not super full ones.
unreal verge
I'm 90% of my time in friends+
regal furnace
nah, public world hopping is the way to go ^^
distant rampart
Friends+ would greatly limit my performance so I only go when in invited to parties.
winged socket
That’s your friend group. Maybe don’t be friends with people that want to crash you.
distant rampart
Not my friend group, quite literally play more and you'll run into it
unreal verge
nah, public world hopping is the way to go ^^
Nah i don't have a reason to
distant rampart
You said you barely join so you wouldn't run into it as much, so its to be expected.
winged socket
.-, maybe I should mention. I spend time with other furries in the game.
regal furnace
Nah i don't have a reason to
i actually do
i can explore a lot more worlds and find a lot more people that way that i may or may not spend a lot of hours in the future
twin fractal
friends plus is way more lit
distant rampart
Public worlds are the way to go for performances atleast for me.
winged socket
99% of the people I hang out with just wanna vibe.
unreal verge
i actually do
i can explore a lot more worlds and find a lot more people that wa...
I'm insanely shy against people i don't know so it makes me hella uncomfortable to be in publics
distant rampart
But that's also because you limited yourself a bit, so thats to be expected, when I go into publics I go into them with a open mind, and judge by what I see.
distant rampart
I'm insanely shy against people i don't know so it makes me hella uncomfortable ...
Oh I get that, voice work helped me a bit I'm not perfect but when I get in character I have a blast
regal furnace
whenever i join someone in a friends+ world i end up only standing awkwardly beside that one guy i joined after without even knowing who the rest actually is
half axle
you guys have friends?
winged socket
Not so much limited. I’m only playing this game because of COVID admittedly. I can’t go to meetups or the like so I’m doing this instead.
distant rampart
I actually have to turn off my joining sometimes I met alot of nice people by hopping worlds so it tends to fill fast.
unreal verge
whenever i join someone in a friends+ world i end up only standing awkwardly bes...
isn't that every time the case in publics too?
twin fractal
whenever i join someone in a friends+ world i end up only standing awkwardly bes...
you're that guy lol
regal furnace
after nearly 3 years i would expect ot have a few friends
distant rampart
^^ I feel for ya
regal furnace
isn't that every time the case in publics too?
my prey is people standing around alone who just wanna have some fun in game worlds (where i annihilate them completely)
unreal verge
Oh you're in game worlds a lot
distant rampart
I meet alot of people but only few become true friends, I mostly run into crashers, people who try to harass me cause of my voice, people who try to do weird things to my character, and occassionally screaming children.
But theres alot of fun as well, besides that
unreal verge
I avoid game worlds heavily as they completely kill my FPS
regal furnace
my blast jump record was like 4 minutes at some point
twin fractal
game worlds are 90% of the time I'm in public
distant rampart
My game dies either way.
regal furnace
i jsut tend to avoid the most popular ones like murder and amogus
distant rampart
So I don't notice a difference vs public vs private, my 3070 doesn't help with that lmao.
unreal verge
I can't get more than 20 FPS in game worlds. Usually i only get 11-15 FPS in game worlds.
distant rampart
I think a better CPU may help @unreal verge as graphics cards dont add much extra
winged socket
Let’s be real. Your 3070 isn’t going to help with most if not any unity game.
unreal verge
I've to buy a new pc for an upgrade
distant rampart
Steal one ez pz
winged socket
Especially not this one.
distant rampart
Let’s be real. Your 3070 isn’t going to help with most if not any unity game.
Yep I ran a test myself this game is more CPU based but even then theres only so much you can do.
regal furnace
ill upgrade to a Ryzen 7 5800x and keep my 1070ti probably during summer when im done with school
unreal verge
I only have a 750ti
lean heart
Woops. Wrong thread probs. Can anyone else not rotate objects anymore in vrchat on desktop?
vocal shard
Inhale draw calls
regal furnace
my 750ti died some time ago ;-;
winged socket
Lol this game runs terrible on my i9. Uses like 1/10 of a core and still get 40 FPS.
distant rampart
I only have a 750ti
Yeah I have a i7 I get like
60-90 in vr, and like 120-180 in desktop
unreal verge
I get 20-40 FPS in VR
regal furnace
Lol this game runs terrible on my i9. Uses like 1/10 of a core and still get 40 ...
i have an i5 7600k (4C4T) and get 90 most of the time in optimized worlds where im alone
noble depot
Lol this game runs terrible on my i9. Uses like 1/10 of a core and still get 40 ...
I'd recommend making the dynamic bone limiter more restrictive o:
ruby needle
Yeah I have a i7 I get like
i7 says nothing without the model number
distant rampart
i7 says nothing without the model number
Oh sure
noble depot
^
distant rampart
Let me find it rq I dont know it off hand besides i7
noble depot
also keep in mind that VRChat is multithreaded, but Dynamic Bones isn't
ionic ivy
anybody wanna join me on the devouring vrchat map
winged socket
I have a i9-9880H… 8 core 16 thread processor. I doubt dynamic bones do anything to my performance. Also; dynamic bones are kind of a must for furry avatars.
noble depot
I have a i9-9880H… 8 core 16 thread processor. I doubt dynamic bones do anything...
Dynamic Bones are pretty CPU intensive (especially colliders) and them being single-threaded doesn't help either
regal furnace
DB is still procesed on a single core, no matter what CPU you have
unreal verge
Yeah furry avatars look weird without dynamic bones
winged socket
Right but the thing is the game isn’t even using a full processor core.
noble depot
I'd also recommend using https://github.com/Naraenda/NarasUnityTools if you're developing an avatar with DB, to help reduce the amount of DB transforms
The game is multithreaded, and does run on more than one core
distant rampart
Always state the model number
winged socket
It’s using less than 10% of a single core when I play even in massive lobbies.
regal furnace
Right but the thing is the game isn’t even using a full processor core.
my CPU is 100% most of the time, im sure it does utilize the entire CPU
distant rampart
I run pretty fine except for random tanks now and then <3
regal furnace
on all cores btw
ruby needle
10700k is definitely a very good one. 
winged socket
I’ve been checking my graphs. Mine never goes above 20% when I play the game.
Which if windows is normal means 1/5th of a single core.
distant rampart
I was considering if I should upgrade more but wasn't sure if it would help
unreal verge
I only got a amd athlon x4 860k. It's around 80-100% all the time
distant rampart
Money isn't too much of a issue rn, buuut meh I try not to waste.
noble depot
It’s using less than 10% of a single core when I play even in massive lobbies.
Try making the DB limiter more restrictive and see if your CPU usage equalizes - if you're in a lobby like VirtualFurence with a lot of DBs, that def might have an effect
unreal verge
I really want to buy a new PC but money is a big af issue right now
winged socket
my CPU is 100% most of the time, im sure it does utilize the entire CPU
My MacBook’s performance bias is towards high CPU load activities.
distant rampart
My vrchat is usually good but then now and then it will suddenly start eating alot of power and I have to restart or it'll spike.
ionic ivy
im playing a horror map called the devouring anybody wanna join
winged socket
Try making the DB limiter more restrictive and see if your CPU usage equalizes -...
Been there, still doesn’t go above 20%. Been to a lot of full furhub lobbies still not above 20%.
Dynamic bones literally don’t impact performance for my laptop at all.
distant rampart
I don't really notice much different with bones either.
Even on my older build it wasn't that bad.
unreal verge
Until you get an anime girl with a billion of them
distant rampart
That's pretty often
I've had no real issues besides crashers regarding bones tbh.
winged socket
If you’re on a modern CPU it shouldn’t be an issue. If you’re on an i9 or Ryzen 9 5000 series you shouldn’t have an issue with dynamic bones either.
ruby needle
Wrong
Even those struggle with too much.
DB's are sadly not well multithreaded, so there is not that much gain from the core power from the i9 and such.
Even the highest end CPU's will be bottlenecked by too many.
noble depot
that's odd, though I def wouldn't claim that they don't impact performance on your system at all o:
also, does the single-core CPU usage issue only happen on certain maps? If so, that could also be the result of a shader/script on that map
distant rampart
They do affect my pc, but rarely.
distant rampart
my pc will randomly spike tho on maps like the great pug and I gotta restart to calm it down.
noble depot
Even those struggle with too much.
DB's are sadly not well multithreaded, so the...
^
If your main thread (or any thread) gets bogged down, the rest of the CPU will suffer
alsosorryforgottodisabletheping aa
winged socket
that's odd, though I def wouldn't claim that they don't impact performance on yo...
1 or 2 FPS isn’t something I find to be important.
noble depot
🤷I'm just suggesting stuff lol
winged socket
I know what my performance issue is.
distant rampart
Last update tho
I will admit I see sudden spikes when people join lobbys, its weird.
winged socket
My system is heavily reliant on an accelerator card that only works with macOS; and my Vega 16 is only about as powerful as a 1070 mobile.
Given this game only runs when you have Windows running natively, I lose my undervolt on my CPU, my accelerator card, and a few other things while playing.
winged socket
It accelerates specific tasks.
dim geode
quantum doohickey fx 3
winged socket
Lol
The accelerator is nice. Takes my encode time down by 70%.
The card also does other things that I have to do on the GPU when in Windows which eats my performance down as well.
noble depot
I made my world and when I spawned i can't move dunno why
Make sure that your spawnpoint isn't in the floor o:
karmic harbor
How ?
noble depot
Drag the VRCWorld prefab into your world, assuming you don't have an existing spawnpoint already, and make sure it isn't physically in the ground
karmic harbor
@noble depot can i dms you
noble depot
If you want, though I'd recommend the #world-development channel instead c:
scenic echo
According to VRChat, that is a guarantee of getting new user at least.
How much to buy trusted?
noble depot
How much to buy trusted?
You can't - if you're already very close to getting Trusted though, the small VRC+ boost may rank you up
Note that the VRChat+ boost is one-time only, and doesn't stack with repreated subscriptions
vocal shard
Bear in mind that there is no reason to need Trusted either.
scenic echo
Bear in mind that there is no reason to *need* Trusted either.
I want the status that goes along with it
vocal shard
Though I must admit, moving past User was pretty cool.
And to be honest, I think there is more negative around Trusted than positive.
noble depot
Play the game normally - while the trusted system is entirely different for everybody, I got to Trusted at about 440 hours with a decent amount of friends and a couple avatars/worlds uploaded o:
note that I got Trusted after purchasing VRC+, though I was likely very close to ranking up anyway (was Known for a good while)
scenic echo
Thanks for the tips
noble depot
yw! note that the trust system isn't only/strictly based on time, and is based upon many factors too o:
unreal verge
Only benefit of trusted is that people on normal safety will see all your avatar features
Or custom safety too if people made it that way
twin fractal
and you get targeted first in game worlds 👏
loud gale
Neat. Lmao yikes.
noble depot
you can also get called a mirror dweller for just existing lol
neat ferry
Mirror Dweller sounds like a compliment for me lol
twin fractal
I like seeing the avatars I've spent hundreds of hours on personally
vocal shard
dain show avatar
twin fractal
might just be me tho 
loud gale
Jokes on you I get calleda piece of shit irl a lot so mirror dwellers an upgrade heheeeeee
unreal verge
and you get targeted first in game worlds 👏
Then I'm safe i guess.
I never go to game worlds in public instances
loud gale
That's a joke, everyone respects me in my life.
noble depot
nothing wrong with people who sit infront of mirrors, I just mean that people use it as an insult lol
I don't talk ingame so I have pretty much no use for mirrors, so pfft
loud gale
That's all they got? Mirror dweller. My mother would say I break the mirror with my looks.
unreal verge
If you're an avatar creator (like me) it's 100% understandable if they like mirrors
noble depot
mirrors are def useful for avatar creation too, yus! c:
idle olive
Amogus
unreal verge
Also mirrors are useful for phantom touch
loud gale
What's phantom touch
unreal verge
Feeling someone touching you in VR
neat ferry
When you like to look at your avatar and how cute it is, you bound to stick on the mirror ya know.
Phantom touch is like you actually "feel" something in VR.
loud gale
...
neat ferry
example, Like grasses. You can feel the grass even though you're inside your room.
loud gale
Can't relate..
noble depot
A mental phenomenon where you feel a slight tingling sensation (in my experience) when people touch your avatar
neat ferry
its part how your body reacts on what you see.
unreal verge
People can easily let me fall asleep by cuddling me
loud gale
Then again with lack of emotions, I would guess it rather is a suppressive feeling.
neat ferry
Then again with lack of emotions, I would guess it rather is a suppressive feeli...
Probably, yeah.
neat ferry
People can easily let me fall asleep by cuddling me
I have a friend who literally falls asleep by making hairbrushing noises near her.
loud gale
This is just self ASMR with extra steps. 🔫
vocal shard
you feel like someones actually touching you even though there not they may be touching you in game but not in irl you can feel them touching you.
noble depot
The rubber hand experiment (body transfer illusion) is probably a good comparison of similar mental phenomenons o:
unreal verge
I'll probably go online in VRC in a few minutes
fierce pier
can anyone log into the website?
loud gale
I have.
fierce pier
My Authenticator is broken
noble depot
Try using a different browser and/or clearing your cookies? o:
unreal verge
I got my avi down to medium performance rank. So people with normal safety will now see all my avatar features.
Well if i ever go into a public lmao
loud osprey
This happens everytime I talk, welp I'm out then
noble depot
People take a while to respond! c:
carmine egret
I got my avi down to medium performance rank. So people with normal safety will ...
Lol and then there's me with 150Mb avatar with tons of animations and sound and dynamic bones lol
carmine egret
Lol
rare viper
Hello
carmine egret
My quest version of that avatar is excellent btw.. with less than 5k polys
unreal verge
Well everything above 100MB is performance blocked for me
carmine egret
Lol yes I changed my avatar limit to 10GB
unreal verge
I didn't cause i don't have infinite RAM
regal furnace
Idk my VRC is not RAM hungry at all
14gb used most of the time ^^ (32GB installed)
carmine egret
14gb used most of the time ^^ (32GB installed)
Similar usage
noble depot
shouts in 16gb
midnight obsidian
Idk my VRC is not RAM hungry at all
Sir, teach me how.
regal furnace
the upgrade from 16GB 2400mhz to 32gb 3600mhz gave me like a 15% improvement in performance
unreal verge
I definitely had several times where my pc got completely unresponsive due to filled up RAM
carmine egret
Yes had 16GB and had to upgrade was constant out of ram when Unity open
regal furnace
the game even runs a lot more stable now since the upgrade
carmine egret
the game even runs a lot more stable now since the upgrade
I mean that is a giant upgrad from 2400 to 3600 so it is expected
vocal shard
Why not use the largest paging file windows will allow to compensate for low ram?
midnight obsidian
the game even runs a lot more stable now since the upgrade
Can't say the same, I've never seen 72 fps in any world that isn't a solo one
carmine egret
Sir, teach me how.
Idk My VRC rarely uses more than 2GB
unreal verge
Why not use the largest paging file windows will allow to compensate for low ram...
?
regal furnace
im running on a good 90fps most of the time now, and i have a 4c4t i5
noble depot
laughs in 2133mhz
carmine egret
Why not use the largest paging file windows will allow to compensate for low ram...
Paging is just bad.. No matter how fast your SSD is
carmine egret
im running on a good 90fps most of the time now, and i have a 4c4t i5
I run on 150 FPS most of the time
regal furnace
also, went from 2x8 to 4x8 since that gives quite some extra performance as well (and is not even more expensive than 2x16
vocal shard
?
a paging file is a portion of the hdd that acts as ram technically when your running low on memory.. there is a portion you can allocate by means of adjusting windows settings that allow you to use that portion to help the ram offload.
unreal verge
im running on a good 90fps most of the time now, and i have a 4c4t i5
cries in 20-40FPS approximately
midnight obsidian
I run on 150 FPS most of the time
You do know vrchat has a hard fps cap ;)
orrr did they remove that?
regal furnace
not when the headset you use has a different refresh rate
carmine egret
Idk but I run on 140-150 no problem
regal furnace
index can get 144fps in vrc for example
unreal verge
a paging file is a portion of the hdd that acts as ram technically when your run...
My HDD is slow and old. Don't think it's a good idea for me to do that.
carmine egret
no on Desktop.. You just gotta go on steam and set the startup parameter
regal furnace
also @rough pulsar , can you remove the cooldown again? the shitstorm is over already
noble depot
You do know vrchat has a hard fps cap ;)
Launch options o:
vocal shard
My HDD is slow and old. Don't think it's a good idea for me to do that.
Well we was using paging files since the windows 98 days.. so your hard drive cant be That slow.. you would be suprised with how it works i think you should honestly look into it regardless of what you may think because you may find it helps you more than you realise.
carmine egret
noble depot
also paging files are rather slow compared to traditional RAM, and likely would not play well with VR
midnight obsidian
I understand there's launch options
carmine egret
index can get 144fps in vrc for example
It actually can't When I switch to 144 mode in steamVR Vrchat limits my FPS to 72
regal furnace
thats because your PC cant reach 144fps
midnight obsidian
Which headset do you use?
carmine egret
thats because your PC cant reach 144fps
It can
regal furnace
in VR or desktop mode?
noble depot
Your computer physically may not be able to reach 144FPS in VR, so it's capping to 72 instead - also, try restarting both SteamVR and VRChat once you switch refresh rates o:
unreal verge
My headset only supports 72 anyways but in VRChat i never reach that remotely.
midnight obsidian
I only reach 20-36 FPS ingame
unreal verge
I only reach 20-36 FPS ingame
In VR same
carmine egret
Well.. in desktop 144 no problem can go above that no prob in full instances and VR about 100FPS in empty instances should be very fine
midnight obsidian
In and out of VR
mystic vale
I remember increasing pagefiles at some point. Before I had 16GB ram and 24GB page file and it could go to a moment that both of them would fill up to 100% causing my entire PC to start messing up and restarting a bunch of drivers and stuff
noble depot
Well.. in desktop 144 no problem can go above that no prob in full instances and...
VR is much more intensive to run than desktop
carmine egret
It is just stuck at EXACTLY 72 FPS like it Barely changes
regal furnace
even a potato can run vrc on desktop with proper frames
midnight obsidian
It is just stuck at EXACTLY 72 FPS like it Barely changes
What Headset?
carmine egret
VR is much more intensive to run than desktop
Yea but when I change FPS in steamVR to 120 it gets stuck on 60
mystic vale
it's most likely stuck at 72 due to Vsync and stuff
carmine egret
What Headset?
Valve index
unreal verge
Yea but when I change FPS in steamVR to 120 it gets stuck on 60
Yeah it halfes it down afaik because of VSync
midnight obsidian
Yeah
regal furnace
Yea but when I change FPS in steamVR to 120 it gets stuck on 60
thats called reprojection. it reduces your fps to half and then adds the missing frames via ai or something like that
carmine egret
Yeah it halfes it down afaik because of VSync
Can you disable that ? Its a bit annoying
noble depot
Yea but when I change FPS in steamVR to 120 it gets stuck on 60
Your computer may not physically be able to run VR at 144hz, so it's getting capped to 72
also yus, reprojection
noble depot
Can you disable that ? Its a bit annoying
In SteamVR's video settings, I believe
unreal verge
Idk i never messed with VSync in SteamVR. Can't get more than 40 FPS anyways
carmine egret
Ah Ill try.. I really wanna see how much FPS would I be actually able to get
zealous snow
Can anyone log into the game yet?
midnight obsidian
Yes.
noble depot
I did without issue o:
regal furnace
also, what GPU do you have?
carmine egret
Where's the reprojection ? 🤔
noble depot
SteamVR's video settings, might be in the per-application video settings but I'm def not sure on that
midnight obsidian
Also something I don't understand, how come my friend, who has a similar specced PC as me, always gets 90 fps, but me using pcvr can't even reach 60 most of the timeI got the ryzen 5 2600x, 16GB 2666Mhz, and 1660 Super. He has the 1650 TI
regal furnace
you have the same headsetss?
carmine egret
SteamVR's video settings, might be in the per-application video settings but I'm...
Oh I see its called Throttling Behavior I think
midnight obsidian
I got the quest, he has the original vive headset
noble depot
The Vive is likely notably less intensive to run - heck it runs fine on my 970M lol
regal furnace
vive is capped at 90fps, quest at 72, you wont ever get the same fps as your friends alone because of this
unreal verge
I think Quest has higher resolution. May be able to turn resolution in steamvr down
Oh yeah also that
regal furnace
and yes, resolution plays a role as well
midnight obsidian
Izu.. I'm saying that I don't even get half of the frames he gets when I'm on desktop, i just realised I made a typo
unreal verge
Oh
midnight obsidian
And I downscaled my quest to the lowest it lets me, it is on low
noble depot
^
again though, keep in mind that the Quest is likely just simply more intensive to run than the OG Vive
regal furnace
and a lot of CPU time is wasted on compresing the images for link as well
midnight obsidian
The thing is, vrchat's the only game I struggle to hit the same frames as him.
carmine egret
Also I think that my CPU is the weakest link in my PC and I am buying new one very very soon which should be lot better - i5 9600K -> i9 9900KF
regal furnace
the cpu should be fine for now honestly
carmine egret
Well.. The 95% CPU usage says otherwise
regal furnace
i got a 7600k (4C4T) and thats only getting slow in VR
midnight obsidian
But like i said twice. He reaches his 90 fps in his headset in vr, but in desktop I can't even reach more than 60 most of the time
regal furnace
desktop is softlocked to 60fps
carmine egret
90FPS @regal furnace
regal furnace
its always locked to the default output devices Hz
midnight obsidian
it's 90 yeah.
regal furnace
is it 90 in desktop? i dont really play in desktop anymore since i got VR xd
gray rune
I don't know where you got that softlock idea from. I always get 90fps in VRC and I'm on desktop.
carmine egret
°.°
midnight obsidian
There's a beatsaber world yes.
regal furnace
but its kinda scuffed
carmine egret
But you're better off buying the actual beatsaber
unreal verge
Yes
carmine egret
If you can afford headset.. You should have absolutely no problem buying BS
unreal verge
Even Beat Saber modded on Quest is better than these worlds
midnight obsidian
lmao
carmine egret
LMAO just buy the actual game
noble depot
All worlds in VRChat are free - I'd recommend playing the actual Beatsaber however, though
regal furnace
there is a free demo iirc
unreal verge
No piracy support here if that's what you mean
noble depot
also yus, rule 13 if you mean getting the actual beatsaber free
carmine egret
I wonder if he's got his headset for free.. 😄
midnight obsidian
His mom probs paid for it, no offense
carmine egret
I mean you can get beatsaber for free.. 😄 No Piracy
unreal verge
Demo
carmine egret
Just find a friend who's going to share his steam library with you
unreal verge
Oh that way
ruby needle
Just find a friend who's going to share his steam library with you
They're not getting the game then
carmine egret
🤔
unreal verge
But he can play for free
ruby needle
They are borrowing it it for play, but saying you can get it for free is absoutely wrong terminology.
hexed raven
Just play the demo if you don't have money
carmine egret
They are borrowing it it for play, but saying you can get it for free is absoute...
Well.. 😄 True but as Octo said.. They can PLAY it for free xD
ruby needle
Because you just USE it for free, you ain't getting anything, it's not yours.
vocal shard
hi
midnight obsidian
he's probably not even old enough to be on vrchat, judging his voice
unreal verge
Beat Saber on Quest also gets even better recently. Lots of great mods are releasing for it and even Noodle extensions soon.
regal furnace
he's probably not even old enough to be on vrchat, judging his voice
this is a text chat, how do you hear his voice?
midnight obsidian
his youtube in his bio
midnight obsidian
stalker? bro i just pressed his profile
carmine egret
I know JK 😄
midnight obsidian
I mean, I've got people checking out my profile, and adding me on steam
unreal verge
Only i ever got was scam
regal furnace
i dont even have my steam profile in my discord profile because all i use steam for is buying and launching games
midnight obsidian
That's.. steams purpose tho?
unreal verge
Same but i like to know what my friends are playing
regal furnace
not only
hexed raven
i dont even have my steam profile in my discord profile because all i use steam ...
Same, I never understood how people use steam to use communities and that social stuff
midnight obsidian
I just got it connected so people can add me easily
regal furnace
i have my reddit profile linked though as im quite active over there
unreal verge
I've too much stuff linked
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 28775 users in VRChat currently
unreal verge
Could also link skype just because it's possible but that would be a betrayal to Discord lol
midnight obsidian
How does one link Skype..
hexed raven
Who even uses skype
unreal verge
Idk
regal furnace
boomers
unreal verge
I just have skype cause it's automatically there if you got an Microsoft account
midnight obsidian
^
Which you automatically get if you use ANY microsoft products if you need an account
unreal verge
You can even receive Skype calls without having Skype installed
midnight obsidian
Imagine just making a youtube account
and then finding out you suddenly have accounts for Maps, Drive, Hangouts, remember Google+, Pictures, Gmail
vocal shard
But skype is stinky
unreal verge
Google+ lmao
vocal shard
Hangouts
unreal verge
Hangouts isn't bad though
midnight obsidian
Even worse
vocal shard
No, hangouts is actually pretty good
midnight obsidian
If you just log into google on your phone, and ACCIDENTALLY open up the Google Pictures app, all of your pictures/videos get saved on their cloud
umbral reef
TBH even g+ was a nice system, just should not have been forced upon people
unreal verge
It's just like the fate of every social application from Google. No one fucking uses them lol
umbral reef
Googles mindset is if that a problem cant blow up within a few years it gets gutted
vocal shard
Poor planning and application from them
midnight obsidian
Remember Stadia? well that's fucked too now
umbral reef
Applies to every product they made, no matter the resource cost.
They dont give products time to grow and build a hardcore community
unreal verge
Only products from google that are safe are the main ones like Gmail and ofc the search.
midnight obsidian
Ahh I remember when Geforce Now was in beta, and I was one of the earliest beta supporters.. now that was some good fucking cloud gaming
noble depot
Google Glass is still around for enterprise/business use o:
vocal shard
Google Classrooms is pretty good
unreal verge
There is a dedicated website for stuff that google killed and the list is really long.
umbral reef
Google Glass is still around for enterprise/business use o:
They are making a V2 last time i heard, fucking hope so because even the original one had so much potentialif the hardware was just better
And now that the hardware is all available they can go ham
noble depot
I thought Google Glass enterprise v2 was already out o:
unreal verge
umbral reef
Could be
Also super hyped for the apple glasses
vocal shard
Will always say Android is so much better than iOS though. Much more liberty and freedom with it than it's competitor.
umbral reef
For sure, but as someone who cant deny the 'Apple polish' and ripple effect they have in industries its still nice when they jump onto something
midnight obsidian
Apple makes solid hard/software, sometimes TOO solid.
Android is basically the reversed of that
umbral reef
All wireless earbuds improved after the earpods, all phones got better after the first Iphone, accessibility to less able people improved ten fold after apple started to add it to there software.
tranquil socket
Anyone know of any good lgbtq worlds?
umbral reef
None?
unreal verge
You want no YT ads on ios? Buy YT premium. Yeah no i prefer my Vanced on Android
thick scarab
i hope they find the problem with servers and stuff
buoyant lava
Still having issues? Was just about to hop back on
I chose the wrong weekend to try and release a world lol
vocal shard
When you find old maps that still work but you can tell how old they are.
TTT, and an old PVP map.
I wish there was a more recent TTT with a different map in VRChat. I love it on Garry's Mod.
VRChat servers have been shit all 2 weeks recently
So much for using VRChat+money to fund for better servers
You pay for the cat.
buoyant lava
oh is it a hardware issue? I haven't really seen any postmortem or anything. Assumed they were still workin on it
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 29101 users in VRChat currently
noble depot
Afaik last night's issues were related to a lack of resources problem, since affecting the friends list's functionality seemed to help o:
def not confirmed though, would wait on an official postmortem
buoyant lava
Do they have a blog they usually post on or something? Admittedly the engineer in me is curious what problems they're facing. I don't know a lot about the games space
drifting ermine
😀
noble depot
Do they have a blog they usually post on or something? Admittedly the engineer i...
also, https://status.vrch.at is a useful tool for seeing network issues/patterns and such
buoyant lava
oh neat, this looks like more of a features and less of an engineering blog though maybe? It's also possible they don't publish postmortems haha, not everyone does.
buoyant lava
also, <https://status.vrch.at> is a useful tool for seeing network issues/patter...
Oh heck public grafana hell yeaaa
noble depot
There was a postmorterm for New Years on Medium o:
and heck yus graphs yo
vestal edge
I chose the wrong weekend to try and release a world lol
You and me both fam
frosty veldt
Yeah quickest stuff we get is in #announcements. Other mediums are usually linked there as well
buoyant lava
There was a postmorterm for New Years on Medium o:
and heck yus graphs yo
oh cool, I'm having trouble finding it, but archives have never been medium's strong suit lol
vestal edge
I was about to test some animation triggers that I spent an hour working on but it wouldn’t create a File Record : P
buoyant lava
Yeah quickest stuff we get is in <#336764577301659649>. Other mediums are usuall...
good to know! thanks
buoyant lava
I was about to test some animation triggers that I spent an hour working on but ...
solidarity! haha
vestal edge
XD
noble depot
oh cool, I'm having trouble finding it, but archives have never been medium's st...
It's here lol https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchats-new-years-2021-or-what-the-was-that-d84334789f77
tl:dr, VRChat broke 40K users and CloudFlare thought VRChat was getting DDoSed lmao
frosty veldt
Yeah was gonna link that, probably the most "heres what happened" we have got
buoyant lava
It's here lol <https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchats-new-years-2021-or-what-the-was-...
lol, I scrolled right past it like 4 times. I have had that exact problem more than once, cloudflare getting confused is the worst
oblique silo
I have a question, does anyone know why my headset is losing tracking only when I play vrchat?
I got a -new pc, -updated my drivers,-remove reflective surfaces, -redid my room set-up,- covered major lighting, readjusted my base stations, tested out different words ~Headset: Valve Index~
any ideas?
noble depot
This might fall under the updated drivers bit, but did you remove all SteamVR USB devices in SteamVR's developer settings? o:
oblique silo
yes
noble depot
some of this is def gonna fall under what you've suggested lol, but make sure there aren't any windows visible to your playspace alongside the reflective surfaces you've mentioned, and try switching the base station modes around?
#bottalk - there's about 29k people online currently according to VRCBot's status c:
oblique silo
its weird because my base stations and everything were in the same place, with my old pc..but with my new computer vrchat doesnt work properly for me
noble depot
Try connecting your link box to another set of USB ports if possible, maybe? o:
reef moss
@oblique silo Does your computer have a 3000 series Nvidia/6000 series AMD GPU
If so disable PCI-E 4.0
Gen 4 PCIe has been known to cause problems with VR for some reason. You won't get a performance dip because even the newest GPUs don't have enough power to overload Gen 3
halcyon acorn
Who do I need to talk to if SDK2 was tagged as ransomware on my computer and caused my screen to give me a blue “there is a problem” windows screen but it looked fake?
noble depot
Who do I need to talk to if SDK2 was tagged as ransomware on my computer and cau...
Run a virus scan with Malwarebytes - actual bluescreens tend to be driver or hardware related issues however, not software
oblique silo
<@!403346629198872599> Does your computer have a 3000 series Nvidia/6000 series ...
I have a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
i don't know anything about computers help
reef moss
Then yes Disable Gen 4 PCI-E on your motherboard within your BIOS. Should fix the tracking
oblique silo
where can i find BIOS?
reef moss
ughhhh shit that might be a tad difficult. Do you know your motherboard manufacturer?
noble depot
depends on the motherboard yeah, though usually involves spamming a key while starting your computer
vocal shard
spamming f2 f3 f5 f10 and f12 usually works
reef moss
Like in your order for your prebuilt; what was the selection for the motherboard? You can just copy paste it here
halcyon acorn
Run a virus scan with Malwarebytes - actual bluescreens tend to be driver or har...
I just realized my 3080 drivers weren’t up to date
oblique silo
Like in your order for your prebuilt; what was the selection for the motherboard...
can i dm you?
reef moss
Yeah that's fine
oblique silo
cause i dont want to wait ever 12 sec to type
reef moss
Was about to say the same thing cause of this slow mode
rancid jewel
nothing beats watching youtube videos in vrchat with friends
bronze hollow
Yo is it worth logging into the game at all today or is everything still broken
rancid jewel
most things appear to be working properly
noble depot
seems fine to me o:
bronze hollow
Yay
vocal shard
Hi
round steppe
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 29350 users in VRChat currently
sly ingot
I would like to try sleeping in VRchat but I don't know what is a good map to sleep in. Can anyone suggest any maps or just share some tips about sleeping in VRchat.
meager solstice
sleep room?
tacit tartan
is anyone elses social loading slow
meager solstice
mine was last night havent tried since then tho
tacit tartan
urgh i was on last night and it kept crashing then it took forever too load
late void
I would like to try sleeping in VRchat but I don't know what is a good map to sl...
Pain
When I wake up after a one hour nap my head hurts and my eyes feel dry and red
light ivy
I'm sorry about that
swift turtle
i logged on a bit ago and was stuck in afk animation, even though im moving around, had to turn of afk detection and idk if this is due to a bug or what
sly ingot
When I wake up after a one hour nap my head hurts and my eyes feel dry and red
Yeah thats probably whats going to happen but I think that I will still try it sometime soon
ivory spoke
When I wake up after a one hour nap my head hurts and my eyes feel dry and red
Just turn down the brightness lol that’s what I do. I sleep just fine
Or try a warmer colored map or dimmer map if you can’t help it. Rest and sleep is good. The music is pretty chill too.
tribal gust
Reposting this for those who crash a lot
twin iron
Anyone have issue where their left or right index controller stops tracking and no matter how many times you restart it never fixes
late void
Just turn down the brightness lol that’s what I do. I sleep just fine
its not the birghtness its the headset
world can be black its still the same.
carmine egret
Your computer may not physically be able to run VR at 144hz, so it's getting cap...
Just launched VRChat with VR on without the stupid reprojection.. Got 110FPS
noble depot
cool! c:
old sable
thee thing i hate is the asw effect ]
Space warp
and the microwave door screen effect lag wherer the edges are jagged and black when the picture lags xD
ivory spoke
its not the birghtness its the headset
Try loosening up the headset a little 
it’s about getting comfy. I turn down the brightness, loosen my headset a little and my controllers a little and then turn down the master volume about half
vocal shard
The devs are starting to show they csnt do this anymore. This game is failing and they are responsible for it. All the evidence is on the vrchat status tweets. People are angry these server issues are consistant all the time. People question what the vrc+ moneybis going towards. There is no love for the devs rn and I dont blame those that are angry.
?
muted laurel
I got banned with no warning and no reason and I tried sending in appeals to no avail, where do I go for help with this? I’m just really stressed about all of this.
muted laurel
I submitted an appeal 5 days ago and still nothing, there was no warning or reason or anything and I am just so confused about it
ruby needle
A warning isn't something you'll essentially get depending on the offence
If you send a ticket, you need to wait.
rancid jewel
yeah
foggy edge
No one ever thinks there is a queue in the ticket system.
muted laurel
Guess I’ll just keep waiting then
young mirage
Hey guys I’m still kinda new to VR CHAT. But dose anyone wanna be in my Tik toks
lethal jay
Bruh I have an alt account that I only have like 10 hours on and like 7 friends and it is already new user
spice nacelle
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 29244 users in VRChat currently
rancid jewel
people
meager solstice
Bruh I have an alt account that I only have like 10 hours on and like 7 friends ...
Same
old sable
what is with that glitch wheree after 4 to 6 words afterv it stays stuck on 100%
and no go
noble depot
Try clearing your cache if you haven't already? o:
lunar heath
Does any1 else just get randomly booted of the game?
noble depot
How much RAM do you have? o:
lunar heath
Who bunny?
noble depot
you c:
old sable
Try clearing your cache if you haven't already? o:
i have also 32gb
warm tree
Anyone seen that YouTube video made my “IamLucid” where he talks about the “biggest problem in vr chat”?
graceful urchin
!online
noble depot
There's about 28.7k people online - note that you can see the current number in VRCBot's status (though it's a bit delayed from the command) c:
opaque shard
How is VRChat today?
molten kayak
Is anyone else having issues with uploading avatars?
junior lintel
i think the servers are dead. all i'm getting are error worlds and error avatars
shut apex
Here comes the shitstorm
molten kayak
Ive summoned something >.>
opaque shard
Cthulu Mythos.
steel dagger
I just got cuddled in vrchat
junior lintel
nope. not on my end, anyways. can't load avatars and get stuck in an error world.
honest moth
im kinda having issues uploading
rancid flame
wow its still down
woeful meadow
dang. also, theres no way to just grab an avatars model out of the game is there? i wanna recolour the one that its my pfp
loud gale
I am a cthulhu follow, can confirm you can't summon something of his entity reference easily.
Chaos is generally very easy to come by, not a greater entity tho.
foggy belfry
I’m having issues with VR chat right now right when I’m trying to film a video
woeful meadow
vrc is having major issues as of recently
foggy belfry
Huh
woeful meadow
ever since friday the servers really shit itself somehow
#announcements and #server-status my friend
foggy belfry
Do you know how long it will take them to fix it?
woeful meadow
no clue, youd have to ask the team
foggy belfry
Ok
Well I’m trying to film a YouTube video and servers are being crap I thought it was my quest
But it was not I guess
tiny tree
anyone know if its possible to delete a certain part of a model?
obsidian crag
6pm on a sundsy n vrc already fucked again ? ;[
merry minnow
I wouldnt say again. It more like ongoing from last night. They never gave an all clear after the last message that things were back to normal
rancid jewel
foggy belfry
Who can I contact to get VR chat fixed because I can’t film because I keep getting kicked out of the server I’m in
Nvm
vocal shard
VRChat having issues is par for the course. Refer to #announcements. Though it was working fine for me earlier.
noble depot
Are you on Standalone Quest or linked? o:
vocal shard
I would say that the community and the devs all hope for the same.
Last thing wanted is for more people to call for the death of VRChat, I imagine.
noble depot
also the issues def don't seem to be widespread, at least not as nearly widespread as earlier - if using a VPN is a possibility, you could try that? o:
Restarting your router could also help
cursive mason
If anyone here makes avatars for people for free please message me I’d love to have my own avatar
noble depot
I'd recommend the free section in VRCTraders instead c:
wise sphinx
#avatar-search-old @cursive mason
cursive mason
Thanks
noble depot
Note, avatar requests is for finding existing avatars I'm pretty sure - VRCTraders is a seperate VRChat-related discord
vocal shard
Indeed. Avatar requests is not for asking for free creations or commissions.
foggy edge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 30358 users in VRChat currently
west night
Anyone want to play
vocal shard
So 3 updates ago i started having problems with half the time loading an avatar would time me out, since the recent update it’s now every time. I’ve been playing for over two years and the only thing that changed was I upgraded my GPU to a 3090. I run the same 3mbps internet this entire time and never had a problem till recently, basically it’s not on my end and I’m sick of hearing that as the only answer. It’s not my pc, it’s always happened after the updates which means it’s on VRC end. So basically I’m saying is if it’s not fixed it won’t be long before DSL starts having these problems and no one seems to be willing to discuss it. I’m sick of having to hide all my friends too just so I can talk to them. This is a serious problem that has been refused to be talked about
It’s becoming a gigantic joke at this point
noble depot
3MB per second, or 30?
also, using a VPN and/or changing DNS servers could help if it's an issue between your network and VRChat's server? o:
vocal shard
Considering all the people that have complained and talked about issues, I am not sure what gave you the impression that yours was a rejected topic of discussion.
It’s 3. And i can’t have my pc doing anything else with internet or the game just crashes
west night
Give me a sec I need to get in be and see what u are talking about
vocal shard
It’s been getting worse for months and no one would consider this a problem
noble depot
How much RAM does your system have? o:
vocal shard
It could be, perhaps, that since the older times it has required more in the way of bandwidth, and what your computer is able to pull is not the most sufficient.
64 gigs
noble depot
also, def make a support ticket if you haven't already
vocal shard
Or my speaking out of my butt here is dead wrong.
Yeah im gonna go out on a limb and say that it might be because your on hotspot speeds
noble depot
I unfortunately can't really think of much else to blame besides the 3mb/s internet - using a VPN might help if it's an issue with some endpoint between you and VRChat's server, but past that I'm not sure what to suggest, sorry o:
ruby needle
3Mbps is definitely going to cause issues when asset bundles are downloaded and will probably cause fighting between asset loading and photon networking (the latter of which is important to not time out)
noble depot
The game's upgraded a lot in two or three years - though I would definitely consider the current server issues as a reason for the timeouts too o:
vocal shard
If what I said earlier holds any water, things may have changed.
times are changing 3MBps is nothing man ion what to say
noble depot
Like FPaul said, if there isn't enough bandwidth to handle both asset downloading and networking, you're likely going to disconnect
vocal shard
Additionally, maybe you are being limited more than you think now as opposed to then? What all is connected to your internet? Are you actually getting your paid for speeds?
Nothing changed on my end and not everyone live with real internet available
might have to invest in starlink
Same speeds up and down
I’m waiting for Starlink so badly
I assume you have ran a speedtest or two before.
ruby needle
Nothing changed on my end and not everyone live with real internet available
Sadly that doesn't mean the rest of the world will throttle everyting to suit such old and bad connections 
vocal shard
The world isn’t on fiber and I live in the woods so it’s not ever going to be here
ruby needle
Like, even a single 10MB avatar will take about 30 seconds to download, and most avatars ar MUCH worse.
And during this time most of your line will simply be saturated and that can and will cause issues.
ruby needle
The world isn’t on fiber and I live in the woods so it’s not ever going to be he...
Fibre is one thing, but 3Mbps is just so slow
that's not even bad DSL anymore, that's just a crime
spare birch
So whats going on in VRChat?
vocal shard
The avatars load but the second it should finally show is when I get timed out
I remember having a solid 300ish Kbps download speed and sub-1MB max upload.
spare birch
i was eating so whats going on?
ruby needle
I dunno if you could setup a firewall to throttle your connection to amazon's AWS to 2Mbps, that would load slower, but at least it should leave headroom for the rest of the networking
vocal shard
So whats going on in VRChat?
If you mean issue wise, #announcements has not been updated since the last post about issues.
ruby needle
But that is a thing you'll need to deal with if that's the issue..
rancid jewel
So whats going on in VRChat?
everything
spare birch
Oof
vocal shard
This all started well before the resent issues
vocal shard
For a while
Be right back.
That actually sounds accurate.
I do wonder if I ever irritate the staff with my persistent sarcasm whenever I am not trying to be helpful. 😓
foggy belfry
I have returned what happened
rancid jewel
stuff
foggy belfry
Ahh I see
viscid mirage
hi
foggy belfry
Vrchat still broken?
rancid jewel
idk
foggy belfry
Huh
rancid jewel
last time i checked everything was fine
noble depot
Your mileage may very, though things seem fine to me! c:
loud gale
You can't irritate staff honestly
They have people harassing them over servers 24/7 yet they're nice enough to respond as they do.
You think you as a singularity can really phase them when they've faced mobs like its fucking spartans vs persians lmao
vocal shard
Fair point, but still.
jovial kestrel
||The occasional shitpost is good for morale anyway.||
loud gale
^
vocal shard
Heh.
robust thunder
true true
vocal shard
@jovial kestrel - Here is a heart, it is one you deserve: ❤️
rancid jewel
vrchat
gloomy cosmos
A social game where the social stuff fails to function. Poor communication doesn't help that. Saying things are fixed when they very clearly are not doesn't help that. This constant roller coaster is, of course, going to make people aggravated and frustrated. It's not even functioning now. At this point the mentality has been shifting from "it'll get fixed" to "maybe it might work at some point." to "I don't think they really care".
rancid jewel
ya good fam?
vocal shard
Community perception has been dwindling it seems as time has gone on.
rancid jewel
in other words the sky is blue
vocal shard
And grass is green.
rancid jewel
cars go vroom
amber juniper
cars go vroom
not electric ones
vocal shard
They go beep.
rancid jewel
and my cat goes WAAAW
vocal shard
My dog goes "give me attention now."
rancid jewel
hes very talkative
vocal shard
For sure. His nickname is bulldozer too.
amber juniper
My fox goes "Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!"
merry minnow
A social game where the social stuff fails to function. Poor communication doesn...
This is entirely why the please understand meme exists on twitter. The same issues pop up repeatedly and you can only ask for peoples patience so many times before they become agitated from constant server issues
vocal shard
what will 10.8 gb of ram left get me
rancid jewel
a lot
vocal shard
idk if its good enough and idk how to get more
im trying to run vr chat beatsaber and roblox i already have roblox installed btw
rancid jewel
well what are the other specs in your pc
vocal shard
so hopefully 10.8 is good enough for vr chat and beatsaber
merry minnow
You may have to restart your game occasinally to deal with ram leaks but you should be good
vocal shard
like gpu and cpu?
rancid jewel
yes
vocal shard
ryzen 2700 and rx 580
noble depot
The developers themselves are just as, if not more annoyed by the weekly server issues - they're working hard on it o:
merry minnow
Oh youll definitely be good
vocal shard
its also a prebuilt idk if that changes anything
about 1 and a half years old and its still going strong
rancid jewel
you'll be able to run vrchat desktop, idk about vr though.
noble depot
It doesn't - if anything it's upgradable in the future
I'd say that could run a Vive, don't personally have experience with the Rift S though o:
rancid jewel
yeah
vocal shard
ive wanted a vr for like a year by now and i saved up and getting it on friday
deft dune
Can someone do me a favor and if so dm me
vocal shard
ok
proper mason
That's a vague request
rancid jewel
incredibly
vocal shard
mans asking me to join his server if i know zenith
proper mason
Whomst
rancid jewel
lloyd I assume
thorn spruce
vrchat down for EU? Friend of mine is getting no connection
proper mason
lloyd I assume
I meant who's zenith lol
noble depot
You could try using a VPN and/or changing DNS servers and see if that helps? o:
thorn spruce
apparently that did not work
turbid sand
so im curious, does VRC have some type of haptic suit compatiblity?
vocal shard
I think I figured out how I enabled Safety mode earlier in VRChat on accident. If it is a renaming of the formerly called Panic mode, then it was probably shift and escape. Interesting.
proper mason
so im curious, does VRC have some type of haptic suit compatiblity?
Theres a way you can with bhaptics afaik
turbid sand
hmmmm
late void
I'm just glad everyone who's not a vrchat veteran is finally realizing the devs are not as competent as you think
humble moth
@covert chasm a lot of friends are having issues with not getting invites and some people showing as offline when they arent
woeful meadow
its a known issue
humble moth
ah
woeful meadow
#announcements look at the messages from the past few days to get caught up
fathom dirge
hi hola quer vrchat oket bien thank Liker Me bye
quaint tide
hey just joined╰(°▽°)╯
cyan tree
Anyone want to talk?
rancid jewel
hey just joined╰(*°▽°*)╯
hi welcome to hell
don't forget, you're here forever.
cosmic shale
so im curious, does VRC have some type of haptic suit compatiblity?
I don’t think it does legitimately
But I haven’t checked for sure
loud gale
Youre not stuck here forever
As a person who hops game to game, chat to chat, pretty much nothings inescapable
vocal shard
hey just joined╰(*°▽°*)╯
Welcome.
bold epoch
Hello !!
sharp saddle
Sup.
noble depot
bit late lol, but there's apparently a legitimate shader method to get BHaptics working o:
don't know much past that, though
sharp saddle
I'm hanging out in Mondstadt.
vocal shard
is there a support chat?
loud gale
..k
vocal shard
The democratic republic on congo is cool
vocal shard
bit late lol, but there's apparently a legitimate shader method to get BHaptics ...
I'm currently exploring purchasing the Tactsuit X16 from bHaptics and it's advertised as wired audio haptic interface that works with Q2 and VRchat, how if at all it would even work is beyond my basic understanding but I'm willing to give it a go and try to find any touch/shader compatibility if its even possible.
noble depot
I don't think it's advertised to work with VRChat anymore, as the method people were using to get it to work was an illicit client modification - that said, I wouldn't really recommend purchasing the haptic suit just for VRChat, but I would def recommend looking into the legitimate shader method o:
vocal shard
I don't think it's advertised to work with VRChat anymore, as the method people ...
Oh, definitely noted and not just for VRchat, I have other games I play that would like to experiment with like Synth Riders, SUPER HOT and some Sidequest games also.
noble depot
kk! The BHaptics suit looks pretty cool, hope it works out! c:
vocal shard
I missed having it delivered this week by not ordering it 2 weeks ago when I first gained interest in it. At this point I'll probably wait another month to decide if I wanna save for A desktop system and some FBT setup or go bigger with the X40
scenic echo
Definitely consider the x 40.
vocal shard
That price point though, oof... F for my wallet
scenic echo
True. Maybe sixteen is enough
vocal shard
With my luck I'd buy the X40 at standard price and it would be like 1/2 off a month later for a holiday promotion or something.
mmm
rancid flame
really sucks they dont allow you to use the mod for it because it runs way better than the shader way
astral temple
Hi guys, I’m looking for the roleplay side of VRchat and I’m not sure where to find it
noble depot
keep rule 15 in mind o:
also, might be worth checking one of the #community-servers-old? o:
stark solar
Just a quick question, what is the VRC+ money gonna be going too? wanna support the devs
ruby needle
stark solar
alright thanks
loud gale
Imagine roleplaying...
proper mason
Imagine letting people do what they want?
noble depot
^
vocal shard
I mean roleplaying is kinda weird ngl
proper mason
Technically I'm pretty sure interacting with any sort of in world objects, or other people's avatars is a form of roleplay. Most of vrchat is roleplay. Lol.
spare birch
Hey Is The Problem fixed i VRChat?
proper mason
No
loud gale
I mean i was stating that cause I was hit with nostalgia of roleplay.
You just assume the worst like a normal pessimistic person that is a majority of society for people.
:nezukostare: That's pretty cringe bro.
Now afk finishing stuff, tell me when vrchat has fix a majority of its stuff for usage.
marsh stump
wtf
Unity package upload failed: Failed to delete previous incomplete version!
noble depot
Server issues still may be prevalent for some users, though I didn't have an issue with logging in earlier o:
marsh stump
Nope its not server it's a unity issue
noble depot
wtf
>Unity package upload failed: Failed to delete previous incomplete version!
You might want to contact #vrchat-support about that, as that may be a serverside issue unfortunately
(also sorry, initial message wasn't aimed at you lol)
marsh stump
Not serverside if its failing to delete a file clearly stored on my pc
noble depot
If deleting that file manually doesn't fix it, I'd def recommend contacting support o:
marsh stump
check random chat
craggy agate
ok i am getting sick of people adding F up stuff on the H party i keep getting a screen that says i belong to someone and the it says very bad words and stuff
who ever owns h party they need to find that idiot and banned them
i am getting tired of it
noble depot
ok i am getting sick of people adding F up stuff on the H party i keep getting a...
Record it and send as much information as you have (output log, screenshots, video, etc) to #moderation-reports o:
rancid jewel
what's the h party
vocal shard
I mean yea do what zuvali said but what tf da H party
vocal osprey
