#vrchat-general-2
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hi
hey
Hi
hows life?
going at a steady decline
mood
how are you then..?
im good
thats good
yknow
no
i remember pissing off a fanbase from a twitch streamer i met off of vrchat
five me a bit brb
five me?
is it possible to mark worlds as favorite in vrchat.com?
i feel like maybe there is a button and i just dont see it for some reason...
i didnt even know vrchat.com was a thing
give*
idk what its for exactly, i didn't connect it to my vrchat account yet
i see
anyway
thats probably why you cant favourite worlds
i assume
i posted memes that were considered "homophobic"
it was one of those cringy uwu mfs
so they got mad at everything
Odd brag tbh
uwu
i wanna meet people in vr chat, but i kinda suck at talking to people. So its hard..
thanks dad
ok heres the difference when talking to ppl in vrchat and irl
teach me how to talk
when u say nice tits in vrchat the person either laughs or says ty
in irl u get slapped in the face
ok i'll tell people they have nice tits then
ONLY IN VR
true
i just talk to people and they look at me like: 😐
hi
not much :I
how are you
ow
I’ve seen some pretty rad VRC dance stuff lately and I’m wondering if I would want to try to get into that (can’t dance for shit but y’know)
some guy was talking about selling vive trackers
Oh I’m gonna wait for tundra trackers before I buy any, they’re looking like a big upgrade
Cheaper, smaller versions of the Vive trackers
less overkill for what they're being used for imo, too o:
do they work better?
not sure, they're not out yet
They have a quick video posted of one of them properly tracking on their website, though o:
oh, i'll give it a look
Yes! Spread the word!
I have only been told nice tits once in real life
It's empty. U no has seen this tits
did you slap them
ppl always complain i use a voice changer but im not
oh-
the one you hear is my genuine voice
if you use a trash obvious voice changer just stop
no its fine
I do voice changer trolling in VRChat and I’ll probably stream it sometime
lol idc if ppl critizse meh
@tardy dune Mostly by playing - trust score is calculated on a lot of other unknown factors, but worlds visited, avatars/worlds uploaded (if the account has permission), active ingame hours, and not getting blocked/kicked/muted all help your trust score
Its fine you can still play
ah thanks
i just wanted to make some of my own models
how many people are playing tomorrow ;-;
i have time lol im stuck in quarantine from close contact to a kid who tested +
i can play tomorrow at like 2 uk time
north and south has different times?
it doesnt have different times smart one it just has completely different types of people
time zone changes over horizontal distance not vertical
what do they teach people at your school
living on the left side of a timezone can hurt your biological clock tho right?
probably in some capacity
interesting
yeah cuz it is technically 6 o clock even if its dark out
i kinda think it be cool to have like every one hour gap between timezones was set to an hour before
Blobble you better be here =w=
hii
uvu
excuse my name my friend told me to name it that and it just caught on lol
Henlo
Howdy everyone
Howdy there krimson
How are yall :)
Im great
Does anyone know why my VRChat is laggy when I have my hands away from the OVR Toolkit screen? It’s really annoying
Is there a way to use many connects to track me like if I have 4 so then I can do room scale
i’m not sure about that, maybe have a look on reddit
i just bought an index is there anything i should know now any tips and or tricks
does anyone know how to search for a specific instance in vrchat
how long do you have to wait to upload a custom avatar i have been working so hard on making one and when i finally finished it it said i needed to enjoy the game more to be able to upload it
change your resolution to 150%
is there any more
mm i only recently got an index...
so there probably is a lot more things i don’t know about
no problem 1 tip is better than nothing
yeah i guess sorry haha
oh also maybe get desktop+ it’s just an easier desktop you can use in vr
Doesn’t really say much on Reddit either. All the results are about solving lag in VRchat as a whole.
oh that’s weird
i am ticked off cus i can't find no one to join me in vr chat
and i can't go to public place ifg there is more then 3 folk in the room and also i get ticked off cuss teh damn room says there folk in it yet when i load in no one is there
i’m not sure then
each world has different servers
some one tell me why the rooms an ever public server i look at say it has folk in it but no one is there when i load in
probably being counted wrong or everyone just left
also goodnight hz
you can select what server you go in at the bottom when you join a world
be sure to check if it’s full
I need some help in #user-support-old
Don't cross promote posts.
That is essentially the same as double posting. (Rule §15)
Srry
is it possible to report ripped worlds?
Would global dynbones be so difficult?
There's already a distance-function build in for the voice and such, so anyone further away from eachother than like 1.5 times their arm length shouldn't have to check the collisions at all
Could even check for a collision with a players sphere collider as a requirement for processing the rest of the collisions? theoretically easy (but everything is to outsiders - I'm aware I might be very wrong)
They have stated they want to add global, but under a new system
^
it's planned, but there'd be issues implementing it currently
Oh, looking forward to it! I know that another game (probably not allowed to 'advertise' it) has done it
With a "friends only" setting as well, which is probably for the sake of optimization
I'm personally hoping for Magica cloth to be added, which is a much less performance-intenstive dynamic bone system o:
t'is also on the canny, and so is the planned global DB
Speaking of which, I have a bug to report: the in-game dynamic bones limitation doesn't work with custom limits. I put the limit on 1000 bones, but every avatar with more than like 20 are still blocked, my custom config values are ignored
Would recommend posting that to https://feedback.vrchat.com/ under Client Bug Reports o:
I don't care that much. Now that other people know about it, they could report it or carry on not caring
If VRC made these limits work and then made them customizable from within VRC, that would be great, though. It's also in their interest that players generally have more FPS
totally your choice! bugs aren't documented here though, so making a feedback post to report a bug is def recommended o:
and yeah, being able to change the limit in-game would be vv nice
Did you format it properly and in correct location? 🤔 (And making sure windows didn't add .txt after the .json)
what about dynamic bone colliders? it could be disabling because of that
I cant remember if it just disable the colliders or everything
You can set that too.
{
...
"dynamic_bone_max_affected_transform_count" : 1000,
"dynamic_bone_max_collider_check_count" : 40
}
This shouldn't kick in in most cases, right?
iirc, DB limiter has performance costs just being on. So unless you know the instance is full of a lot of DB, it may be cheaper to run without it.
it probably kicked in at the collider count
"dynamic_bone_max_collider_check_count" : 40
This.
If someone has even one collider on an avatar with 1000 DB, it'll count as 1000 collider checks.
i cant see why the db limiter has a performance cost, it just checks avatar stats and disables the dynamic bone components on load
Isn't affected colliders times objects? Most avatars have maybe 4 colliders (hands and head and hip)
It runs a check constantly.
is vrchat down for anyone else
it shouldnt need to be checking constantly, just on avatar load
It checks constantly because avatars load in and the DB active changes based on animation sometimes too.
Who has 1000 dynamic bones, though? It's excessive. I don't need to load such avatars
50 bones and 5 colliders though? I want to see that, and it should show
If I animate my DB scripts off for one of my hairs (I'm under the default limit anyway), then it'll start showing my DB again if someone's limit is at that point.
50 x 5 = 250 collisions
it counts number of collision checks, not number of colliders
"dynamic_bone_max_affected_transform_count" : 1000
but if I have this, then can't I put the collider check count to 1000 as well? I'd still catch every excessive avatar in theory, as they'd still be caught in the above setting
huh, didnt know that
It also checks legitimately every frame, which eats up an enormous amount of CPU.
^
this makes me.. a bit sad
I used to have my limits at 400 and 400. But then I never really ran into that so I was having perf stolen by the limiter.
tupper fix it reee
Right now, those with 500 dynamic bones and 5000 are both grouped together as "very poor", so there's no way to allow one and not the other
Very poor is very poor. 500 is still plenty to be very poor.
500 is insanely excessive.
Infact, there should at absolute most be under 500 in an entire room.
100-200 is around the norm
I like staying under the default so that I'm the only one with moving hair in an instance of Visitors and they're like "woah!" 
Yes.
It's just not a good calibration for VRChat
32 and under master race
Same with polygons, the avatar ranks were made without the knowledge of avatars, and not updated properly. The trust ranks have the same problem
Just wait until people get crazy about Constraint physics.
I could probably be 0 DB and still have the same physics.
And constraints are much cheaper than DB.
When you have a statistic set of data, the groups should fit in well
I hope that at some point, VRC is just able to make their own jigglebone components and actually optimize them. The only reason that Dynamic bone even sucks is because it's badly optimized.
I don't want to block my friends with their 100K polygon avatars. I really want to block avatars with 1.5 million polygons
Friends follow a different shield level.
There's a limit for a reason. If they kept pushing it up, there'd be no limit and everyone would be pushing it. You already have the ability to upload anything and everything you want. It's up to others to want to see that.
Even nonfriends with 100K are fine
honestly I think the polygon limits are already quite generous, they just need to account it for av3 systems where not all your clothes are active at any given time, but having the rating system tied to callbacks with av3 so it updated on state changes
They should have reason to when they start working on the collsion based animation replacement from statebehaviors on child animators.
compared to most games out there, you wont find 100k player models
You say that, but these limits are not enforced anyway. They gave up on that completely despite having a 20K polygon limit at some point. A "very poor +" would help people like me
then a Very Poor ++. then a Very Poor +++
You see the problem here?
Hii
They didn't give up on enforcing anything, by the way. They gave users the ability to enforce it themselves on an individual basis.
1-10K 10% of players
10K-50K 30% of players
50K-100K 40% of players
100K-200K 15% players
200K-2M 5% of players
If 5% of players are taking half the CPU, why wouldn't I want to block them? Why must I block 50%?
If you block someone verbatim due to their stats, then you're missing out anyway. And confused.
I don't see the problem, precisely because enforcing it should be up to me. I should decide what is excessive, and I lack the tools because VRC hasn't kept up with the userbase and/or the increase in hardware effectiveness
No, I've seen avatars with 12000 dynamic bones collision checks. I do not give such people permission to use my CPU cycles. I'm not "missing out" on that
We have the particle limiter with custom values, and it's beautiful, I love it
Wrong, they decided that 20+ people in an instance with x amount of x would hurt performance. Their numbers are very generous.
I haven't been crashed since like 2018
You have to understand that there's a lot more going on in this app then your materials or polygons or dynamic bones, regardless of whatever you want to believe.
Their solution is for me to block 50% of players or drop down to 10 FPS, not because of those 50% of players, but because of one idiot with like 500 materials or 10K dynamic bones or 2M polygons
No, their solution is giving you the ability to block 50% of the user base and leaving it up to you.
Just get a better pc problem solved
The setting is still anti-user-choice
Cyberpunk 2077 line.
It's not a solvable problem, because then you'd see people with 20K or 200K dynamic bones
By giving users all of the choice, That makes sense to me, yeah.
honestly the best way is to let users determine their own performance ranks for their own personal filtering
And they'd still be grouped together with my friends with their 400 cloth verts or 80K polygons or 300 dynamic bones checks, which take away maybe 2-3 FPS
Ah. So if you and 5 of your friends join an instance then my fps drops by 10-15? That's acceptable to you?
Do you agree that, if they called "20K" excessive like in the past, and every rank was scaled to values below 20K, that it would then be a terrible ranking system?
I'm giving them the benefit of doubt by assuming that these limits were made with the best of intentions, and that they're now off only because they haven't been updated to reflect the change in community and hardware standards. And yes, of course, I already lost about half to a mirror and even bigger chunks to each light object
The point is that they didn't though? There's an upper end for a reason? Because if there wasn't it'd just get pushed further? If 100k poly is okay right now then will 150k be what you ask for next? I don't think I really get it.
The thing is, the ranking system is entirely subjective to the hardware of the user, and is more of a guideline for a performance than a strict rule. That's why you can choose to ignore it entirely.
i7-9700K 4.5Ghz and a 1070. It's quite mediocre, but while upgrading my GPU is easy, there's not really any better CPU on the market
Ion how your having problems then I never get that slowed down and I have a i5-9300H and gtx 1650 LMAO
Just like you can choose to use an extremely loud exhaust when you drive through a neighborhood at 2 am, but you really shouldn't
2 more years on the CPU market might not even make any difference. GPUs will probably be twice as fast by then
Yeah cpus really not changing much we kinda lit the limit
Until we find a new way to process stuff
"The point is that they didn't though?" Because adding more ranks were better. This is the case again now.
"Because if there wasn't it'd just get pushed further?" why is this a problem if I decide?
you also have to remember that vrchat does have a minimum and recommended hardware specs, and those have to be considered with regards to the limits
If 150K is next, do you think that all booth authors will double their polygon count to compensate? I think people will just filter avatars above 150, now that it's possible
vrchat turned into spaghet smh https://i.imgur.com/BfTdbQP.png
I’m more concerned with having to download a small game every time someone has a dense avatar
just because hardware is getting better, doesn't mean you continuously increase the hardware requirements for your game
Nobody that I know use the safety system which limits avatars by trust level. It's unused, because it's useless
^^^^ massive pet peeve of mine with recent games lmao
semi-unrelated to the conversation but still
This. It's kinda crazy they've even upgraded Unity versions with an active userbase already.
i'd say unity versions is a different matter, and newer version doesn't necessarily mean higher requirements
Most games pick a version and stay on that version until it's done.
This is the effects that you can choose between on Japanese even worlds:
Don't block
block the "very poor" 80% of the instance
block the "poor" 90% of the instance
block 95% of the instance
block 98% of the instance
etc
I for one welcome upgrading to newer versions, and there are features in unity 2019 i'd like to use once its out for my worlds
Oh, I wasn't saying it's a bad thing. the opposite. It's just neat they even did it.
I've always wondered if VRC would ever start to support the LWRPs too, so yeah upgrades mean that might happen
100K polygons is not excessive, it's mostly GPU bound anyway, strong computer don't have a problem with it
100k polygons is excessive for a skinned mesh renderer
But for anything CPU bound, you're screwed, because CPUs don't get faster, they just get more cores that can't be utilized by most games
and is cpu bound as well because all those vertices have to be updated from their weight transforms etc
It used to be pretty bad to even have a model over 65k. Because of a major performance bug with active blendshapes.
That's because Unity developers are idiots
there is a difference between polygons rendered for static geometry vs a dynamic skinned mesh renderer
And that's a good point, only the face should do shapekey things
A lot of people with models over 65k would have to split it anyway because Unity did it automatically back then. You either did it and had it function or Unity did it for you and probably broke it.
and before someone pulls out the modern GPUs can do millions of polygons per second
its millions of polygons per second, but a 100k avatar costs 100k per frame, that means 90 fps = 100k x 90fps = 9m polygons per second
Most games that even do that are using things specific to their engine to make it performant enough.
Like texture streaming. WTB texture streaming please.
Static geometry isn't much of a problem even high-poly, or if it is when GPUs get better next year :P
But a world where every single wall is a different object because it's lego-ed together with things from the Unity play store? That'll abuse your poor CPU and there's nothing to be done about it
yeah, but any decent developer would know to properly merge their meshes accordingly so as to not have an excessively high draw call budget
That stupid ferris wheel which you see in a lot of worlds is not only broken (throws off the carts after a few minutes), it's something like 1500 objects
This is VRChat :P people use Japanese Unity tools because Blender scares them
there are plenty of unity tools that can do the job if you know how to use them
We need better Unity tools, or better guides for players
though this is mostly in the context for worlds, not avatars
Howdy what we talking about
The Japanese don't even have a proper avatar 3.0 guide
Avatars do too. Booth clothing has its own set of bones that you just move in Unity to "weight paint" it for you, doubling your bone count. Usually the clothes is also 10 objects rather than 1
anyone else having issues laoding into worlds?
yeah, i'm well aware of what the jp community does
I mean that as in there are good world dev tools, but not proper ones for avatars
I suppose there's good tools for worlds, yeah
Not sure if it's even possible to make something like CATS in Unity
There is.
It's possible but it's gonna be harder to make something that isn't intended for blender work to do blender work
And also you can check Lyuma's tools for merging meshes and deleting duplicate materials in Unity.
There are a couple of tools, but I don't think theres any generalized toolset for creating and modifying skinned meshes, on the same vein as probuilder or umodeler for avatars
I can find their shaders and avatar 3.0 emulator but not a merger, I'm interested though!
Is there an error that kicks you back to your homeworld, or does it just fade to black and load to your homeworld that way? o:
I'll admit most of my avatars are "very poor", just barely, though
Lyuma didn't make it a separate thing. It's like in a subfile somewhere. Which is sad. It's pretty powerful.
@umbral oracle
@noble depot it seems to load the world at first but than it just fades to my homeworld loading screen and some of my friends are having the same issue
only a few worlds actually load
Bookmarked their git for now, thank you!
would recommend putting your most recent output log into https://nyanpa.su/vrchatlog/, and/or looking in the output log manually to see what the error is
If it turns out to be a connection issue, using a VPN/changing DNS servers might help o:
Visual glitch? Might be that camera settings are unchanged until overwritten. I like this a lot because I can go to a world with a 0.01 near-clip-plane and keep it in the worlds in which it's un-set
Colors might look strange while loading, though (post-processing, probably)
I don't think you can, clip planes are set when the world maker uploads the world
also, what's the visual glitch you're talking about? o:
The default camera in the scene of the world should have a near-clip-plane of 0.01 and put into the reference camera on the vrc_world object
Then you should disable it, becaues having the default camera enabled is a waste of resources, and the reference still works
It's only for world creators.
And I haven't tried that glitch before, are your drivers and such okay?
@wanton turtle yeah that's a new one for me, what GPU do you have and are the drivers up to date? o:
Even Unity 2019 has 16-bit coordinates. goddamnit, will they ever go 32-bit? I'm tired of floating point errors in medium-sized worlds
From looking it up it appears to have a 3090, and I think VRChat has issues with 3000 series cards atm? from what I've seen on the canny it's a different issue than you're having
well pfft my detective™ skills are wrong
odd then o:
Are you in VR or Desktop?
Fun fact: If you freeze the near-clip-plane value to 0.001 with cheat-engine and press upload, your Unity will crash and it won't be uploaded
Assuming you're using SteamVR, try enabling Legacy Reprojection in SteamVR's video settings
nothing saying connection
Another fun fact: Unity is perfectly capable of having a 0.001 near-clip-plane, it just hates you and refuses
would you mind DMing me the output log in a Pastebin? o:
sure
🤯
ai
Me: Vibing with an RTX 2080 and Ryzen 9 3900x 😎
does anyone know how to take the tag off after your username
If it's with a steam account you can't, though merging with a VRChat account would work o:
bruh sometimes I enter a world that's laggy and it permanently turns my game into this https://i.imgur.com/AYwUhYS.png
even leaving that world, it's just broken af until I restart it smh
It's probably caching something
Me and my friends all almost crashed
And you just have too little ram or vram. There's also a bug with the visual desktop, at least on steamVR on the Vive. Sometimes it just becomes laggy permanently
I always have to individually click on the pc avatars to show them. I’m on quest I wish they’d change it
you can't show PC avatars - you're likely showing Quest avatars that are simply too performance heavy to automatically show o:
you can change the minimum displayed avatar in the Safety Settings, I think?
i merged my account from steam to vrchat, how do i possibly get my other username?
PC avatars are physically incapable of rendering on the Quest, vast differences between android and PC
I know that’s why it doesn’t show
But if you go on menu and click on there aura and show avatar they’ll show up
You can change your name on the site, or alternatively ask support to change your name if the cooldown is active o:
But you have to do it individually
@vocal shard yes, those are Quest avatars that are too performance heavy to normally show lol
Head to your Safety settings and see if you can change the minimum avatar rank shown? o:
He's using an avatar that's quest-compatible then - has both a PC and Quest version availible
Yeah prob
Quest users can technically wear PC-only avatars, they just won't be able to see themselves
Nope, both the Quest 1 and 2 can only display avatars built for Quest (android)
Oof
With the link cable/Virtual Desktop you can run the quest as a PC headset, but that requires a VR-capable computer
And quest 2 is always talking about there frame rates you’d think they’d have it. And yeah ik
Anyways nice talking to someone on this dead app :). Or maybe it’s late
It's late lmao, plus the discord's very active if you check out the other channels o:
a lot of people are likely preoccupied with the current open beta
Ohh
What's going on in VRC's beta rn?
#open-beta-announcements message @bitter bone
- Added some new icon envelopes to let you know kind of invite response you've gotten before you open up your menu.
what do they look like
You can send little messages with your invites, or invite denials.
They're basically just envelope icons with arrows and stuff on them.
Yo guys, is there a chat where I can get help with trying to figure out my controller settings to open VRchats settings?
Adds items into the gear menu of the skinned mesh renderer and others. There are some gotchas and it's a bit hard to use... there's a reason I never publicized this: you can do almost everything in blender. Shape key keyframing is a unique feature that allows instant blendshapes but not really needed any more with avatar 3.0 anyway
@crystal fossil ^ this was it
Merging meshes and duplicate materials was still working if I wanted to be quick and dirty about it. But yeah, I would normally just go to blender. Was just mentioning an alternative to just porting in a multi-mesh model because you didn't know blender.
Does anyone know how to fix the mirrors, because when ever I use the mirror it’s all white
just restart your game, that happens when you take a panorama
k thx
I... Was just joining to ask that exact same question... Thank u both @cold quiver and @vocal shard
Hi
anyone having connection problems with vrchat?
yes
yep ad reconnect perfectly in my home world
Is there a place where I can report certain users in vrchat? Not ingame like in the discord server, cause something that counts as NSFW had happened to me today on my first day.
is vr chat safe on steam?
oof sorry and yes its safe
mhm!
i even had my home world reset
is anyone continuously being timed out of vrchat?
yes
yes
There isn't a place in the discord for it. I'm not entirely sure how people do it as I've never had to report anyone. You can probably ask one of the mods but don't ping them
Aah ok! Thanks so much
why do people have to be dumb and take nsfw stuff to public worlds
do you guys what the problem is?
nop
Yeah, I can send you the story in dms if you want
prob server issues
timeout issue not nsfw stuff
is it abot the server issues? @paper arch
Oh my goodness I'm sorry its not sbdbd
if you have a serious problem that you want to report related to the vrchat discord then yeah you can talk to the mods
Ok ty 😅
for example we get spammers every day, the mods are notified, the spammer gets banned
wheres the best place to contact a mod?
are the servers getting better?
So, I talked to one of the mods and they said just create a ticket here:
http://help.vrchat.com/new
Mhm. I'm a minor/teen and the nsfw person was doing those things to me
Thanks so much!
ins't that for the game not the discord?
I'm guessing they'll make an announcement when things are back to normal
Yea, they were talking about someone being nsfw in VRChat
they said in the discord server
Here's what they said: "Is there a place where I can report certain users in vrchat? Not ingame like in the discord server, cause something that counts as NSFW had happened to me today on my first day."
I understood "Not ingame like in the discord server" to mean it happened in the discord server
might be wrong tho
Yea, I just thought they meant it happened in VRChat but they wanted to report it in the discord
But it could be either or
English is confusing
It's pretty bad mate
If you have concrete evidence there are faster ways to report people
Because I left the world. I didnt want anything to do with them.
So, what worlds are fun for someone who usually plays solo, or what should I look for to find them? Don't have friends, and a lot of games kind of tend to devolve to people not playing it and just sitting in random clumps of people talking.
The report button in game literally does nothing, just open up a ticket instead.
I see, in that case opening a ticket is fine yeah, check the info in #moderation-reports @paper arch
Ok, thanks. I'll check those ones out.
Alright, I sent the report. I didnt have any screenshots because I couldn't see their avatar doing those things since they were really close to me, and they wouldn't let me back up. Thanks so much.
I dunno if they'll get banned without evidence but let's pray ay
Mhm.
I can dm you what happened if you want me to. It wont be detailed OF what they did though.
I mean sure, but I don't see how it's anything different than what I'm thinking they did
Thanks so much.
!online
There are 18962 users in VRChat currently
DAYYM

!online
There are 18407 users in VRChat currently
seems no one is offline
@vocal shard fukn sux
Hi
Imagine edating in vrchat
Those suckers sit in the corner of murder mystery cuddling and not doing anything
And they hog the mirror at the pug
Lmao, you're jealous ay
Well, I personally wonder whether this is not unusual to see in VR or whether this is a result of all those lockdowns 🤔
I’ve been playing for almost 3 years now, it’s always been a thing
And now with the addition of the quest 2, there are so many new players
Kids that are too young to be playing
Well, humans are social creatures, so they want to be social (for the most part). Don't judge.
Oh, I don't judge 🙂 Just was curious 🙂 Sorry if my question appeared like a judgement. This was definitely not the intention!
I don’t mean to bash on them, I play with my girlfriend too. I’m talking about the ones that sit and ruin the fun for everyone
oh... well was kinda a bad choice of words than ;)
morning
Like for example I was playing murder mystery with my friends and these two peeps joined the game and sat still doing nothing. Half the time they were murdered
Sorry English is not my first language
yeah... people ruining games of others are... well, I don't know if there is a word for it in english, but in german we call them "Spielverderber"
And then we played an escape room and they just sat flirting, we told them to leave but they just started swearing at us
It’s become such a part what I do I had a dream in which I was blocking kids’ avatars
Since the quest 2 came out you can’t join a world without there being a 10 year old kid screaming at everyone as Ugandan knuckles
Na, that would mean that it's there intention to ruin the game for others. I would rather call it unconscious or something like that 🙂
I’d take 10 Ugandans over 1 fnaf avatar any day
That meme is so dead
kick them ?
They think it’s funny
We left after solving most of it . They were so annoying
also go to a PC world only
there is basically almost no kids there
well, it doesn't matter if they do it intentionally, they are still doing it ;)
i started going back to the Pug again and the quality drastically improved compared to the blackcat (which is quest compatible)
Good idea, most of the time I just spawn new instances for friends of friends
anyone know how to get an aot server
Yeah I know
whenever I find myself just wanting to hang out in a world I go to the pug
Same
I feel sorry for normal people just using the Quest but the amount of kids is just too overwhelming currently
But I find it harder to make friends now than 2 years ago
Yeah same
blocking half the lobby is not something i want to do everytime i join a world
Exactly
I have a quest and an index, the quest is a solid headset
I want more people in vrchat but like not some 7 year old kid
I feel ya
I'll be getting quest 2 soon
oh cool
hope you are not a 7 year old kid
Nah I'm 19 lol
Htc is working on a standalone
They gotta nail inside out tracking this time tho
It’ll be cosmos esque
i just want FBT that is not htc
if HTC doesnt get their Prices right, i see no future for them
They gave the monopoly on it
a new one is supposed to come out in testing at the end of this year
get a kinect ;)
Anyone wanna play
LMAO. No.
Does anyone here use a Oculus Rift s?
It’s almost 350 bucks for full body
yes
That’s like the same as the quest 2
I got a quest 2 today
that's the price for the trackers, don't forget the basestations which are also needed
alright thanks
and the battery strap
and the straps to use them properly
Most people have them already
it's cool tho once you have it it is very cool
people with a steamvr compatible headset have them already
I’m interested but I’m not spending 450 just to use my legs
Natively compatible*
Rift s can and typically does use steamvr, but the oculus app still needs to be open
I used to be an oculus fan
until they made it mandatory to use your facebook account
well, if you have a headset which already uses basestations, you already have them
Do you mean the cars or the nikola tesla guy
Ohhh ok
The only complaint I have about the index is the lcd instead of oled
The godrays suck
I thought undex was meantt to be the best headset
I'm getting rays in my vive
Probably because they're a little foggy behind the custom prescription lenses I bought?
TBH the vive is nothing like a tesla, it doesnt have to be repaired straight out of the factory because of the insane amount of RMA's
they're not that bad, i've really only seen the god rays in like the loading screen of boneworks
aside from that the god rays aren't that bad
They meant the guy tesla not the car
, I feel like they were worse on the cosmos elite
It didn’t sit close to my eyes at all
What, you’d prefer screendoor effect instead of minor loading screen godrays?
ok
The quest has a higher resolution but barely any godrays
Then vive first more the Edison type and not the Tesla still 👀
The OG oculus happened first but vive just took the idea and did it better/more expensive
It had to do with the lenses
the quest has a higher resolution but everything else is worse
higher res than the index?
Yeah vive was the Apple and oculus was Samsung
Yeah, 2k per eye
kinect works with fbt?? :0
Apparently
hmm ..
the tracking is definitely not as good as the vive trackers, but yes
The Wii has the best tracking
i'd imagine it being janky considering that the kinect is .. well,
it has a delay
Wii controllers pog
and it is not as good overall
poggies
but it is the cheap option
Hello dose anyone know the creator of the vayn worlds and avatars discord @?
Surely the author is attached to it?
Nope I couldn’t find a discord @ anywhere
I mean attached to the world.
When I was in the world I couldn’t see it and when I went to look at the worlds I was in there was nothing I sent a friend request but I highly doubt I will get friended
hm strange
what graphics card did you get
quest 2 + usb 3.0 type C to type A cable
or if you have a big wallet you can also get the Valve Index
is that a quest 2 connected to your pc?
yes, with the cable you can connect it to the pc and then use it like any other pc vr headset
i heard that the quest 2 bottle necks performance if you use it on your computer
I haven't heard anyone talk about that and I don't know why it would do that
The index is better than the quest for sure, but the price is higher
So it depends on how deep your pockets are
They probably can't afford the index so get the quest 2
i think they got a 1660 super
oh i see
they asked the other day
i have a 1660 and can run a valve index pretty well, so if you have the money thats pretty much the best vr you can get @vocal shard
i think i least
yeah i told them you asked about it the other day and that's why they said to assure you it can run an index...
what are you gonna get @vocal shard
he's gonna go all in, and get 2 valve indexes with 6 base stations
and 11 vive trackers, just in case
where can I find the cracked mickey mouse avatar?
do you guys have it?
mb
is something up with the api and the servers? I can't even upload avatars rn
Where is everyone getting their AOT titan avatars from?
You can always search for worlds with the tag
Rift S is being sold for £299 on amazon UK just for today. 
Go for it.
bruh
You can upload it to imgur, or send it elsewhere in discord and copy a link to it.

is there a list of all unicode that vrchat supports? Some unicode isn't supported so right now, the only way to check if vrc supports that unicode is to change your name with steam, log in with the steam name, then see if my name displays the new unicode symbol or not, but its a hassle to check this
Maybe if the vrchat home website would tell you if the code is allowable before you select the new name, that would be nice, but im afraid of hitting accept and it allowing the change but then finding out the unicode isn't supported in game but can't change it for 3months
that would make too much sense
not a bad idea actually
whats not? making a list of supported unicode or the work around method i found to check if its supported?
I have 20 days to change my name. I hop to find a list before then. I would ask the admins but I dont think they like being pinged
I did, none of them are titans tho
You could ask the creators of such worlds if you are to find them too, what I usually do is hang out with people who also like the stuff I do/like, that way it is also easier for them to help you find
Bronato
ghostooo aaa
Yo
been a while
It has
how you been? Wanna drop by vrc to chat?
@open crescent is there a way to suggest this idea to the admins without bothering them?
I've been fantastic. I'll be on later today, so you could join.
Sure thing, I should be up for another 4 more hours
What happens after those 4 hours? 
What the hell, fiiiiiiix!
yes in the canny
but then that'll mean I gotta sleep more
canny?
That's a win win.
sleeping is painful cuz you gotta wake up and all that

thanks!
Truer words are rarely spoken.
😔
Imo sleeping is great
More sleep = less painful to wake up, no?
yes it is, waking up is not
Waking up is a pain yeah
yeah, that's why I stay awake for long and sleep for long
less times to wake up i guess hahaha

Waking up is okay sometimes, for me. When i'm less lazy.
Anyone having problems with their gestures not working? It worked the other day, then i've done some edits to my avi and reuploaded it and its broken - facial expressions still work, but not the hand gestures themself (both are in the same animation so it doesnt make sense to me lol)
Go to one of the avatar help channels for that, depending on which sdk you're using.
aight, thx
Drunk people in this game are funny.
they sure are
And I feel like a bit of a shut in. I like the Never Have I Ever game, but a lot of the time I never move forward more than one, maybe two times. 🤣
Yes
oof
Unity 2018.4.20f1
i dont have it and really dont want to deal with the free version
i guess ill do it for my avatar later today
You can just download it, and why would it bother you if it's the free version or not? 😄
online school isnt that hard
i remember it sends emails saying i should upgrade
i still recieve them despite unsubscribing and even uninstalling it
If you unsubscribe from the mailer they definitely shouldn't arrive anymore
lemme find an email
Unity is not a shady scum company that just ignores the law's 
Huh? I don't get any emails from Unity. Then again, I put my settings for them to not send me any emails.
yeah i think it just bugged or some shit
No wait, they did send me one email once when their two factor authentication went off, but that's not spam.
Ohhhhhhhh i just had an idea
I could easily map out some potentiometers in a shoe with an arduino and make it so when i walk i stay in place but move in game
Yeah, they're not Facebook.
unity bugs out a lot for me
making small changes sometimes yields 2-3 blank sdk screens
i lost 3hrs of progress today cause unity was just being itself
smh

want a nother link?
simping a guy that doesnt even have a backbone to admit to cheating.
oh. so ur now a comedian. wait gomme a sec to laugh.

guys why im not allowed to make avatars
?upload
You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.
As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.
Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions
@wraith wren
what?
read the above
ok!
You can get new user rank anywhere from 10 - 40 hours of play time. I got it at 15hours
non stop or i can rest ?
You can take breaks in between. In fact, you definitely should.
If you don't focus on it, it will go by faster.
oooo thx u guys 🙂
bored
same
Wish I could play but work ~.~
hehe
anoyone here likes deltarune?
because i want to start a group who can role-play as other characters
just dm me if your intrested
I mean, i like Deltarune but still no
deltarune good but i don't really .. roleplay that much anymore
I love Deltarune. I’m allergic to RP.
By allergic I mean when I inadvertently find myself in someone’s RP bit, I have the need to jump out the nearest closed glass window.
Auto defenestration. Nice.
There are certain kinds of RP that just aren't very... enticing to look at most of the time.
Surface level stuff like DnD is about as far as most people go I'd move to guess.
Lol I’m just talking more wholesome improv
I don't like rp either. Especially not the... other kind of rp.
No yeah we don't go down THAT corridor.
I was leaning more towards like intense themed RP or LARPing
There’s definitely some people in VRChat that are just always in-character so any interaction with you will be a bit. That’s fine. I just just can’t speak to them when that happens for some reason. 
I've done RP on dedicated gta servers for a few months, it was fun. But I feel weird about rp in vrchat, I don't know, maybe because it feels so much more personal in vr.
I don’t want to ruin their thing lol
The most I ever go into RP is if we're in like a restaurant map, and then some friends start pretending they work there and we just have fun with it 
That's about it
Yeah that’s just cute. I mean more like, a Junkrat comes in doing a very impressive improv Junkrat, I can’t talk to him, I’ll give him material he can’t work with
That said whoever was being the perfect Junkrat in among us.. god that was awesome
I admire people who can do really good voices.
Me and some people in a public world got a Palpatine roleplayer to say "Dew it, no balls" in his perfect voice last week. A good roleplayer would work with any material, even if it's seemingly OOC I feel.
I legit got to ask Palpatine, "Are traps gay?" and he still managed to give an in character response. He was great.
and, are traps gay according to him ?
They're really powerful in the dark side.

Traps are extremely powerful
traps are only gay if you make traps gay
if you have to check if someone is a trap then its gay
well-


i wonder what if vrchat added avatar search
like you search for a character like mario and then vrchat shows you every single mario avatar in the vrchat universe
Mods have that. But it is against rules
I see
true
i mean it looks like the vrchat team is online
yeah
what channel do i do that
Post feature requests to https://feedback.vrchat.com/ - and I personally wouldn't call them lazy lmao, look at the current open beta o:
alright time to make history
The idea to search for avatars already got denied
Yo gamers
Their reason was because it would make Avatar worlds redundant, which is kind of true.
Creators aren't in favor of search mostly
avatar favorites already gave people way less of a reason to constantly visit avatar worlds, so avatar searches would likely just give people another reason to not use avatar worlds
that is me
Creators were already averse to the idea of even having avatar cloning, a search would make a large majority of the world content redundant.
^
Understanding when you think about it
@wind token?
i am starting to get mad with this they already denied the idea stuff
At the very least, we do infact now have a channel for that. #avatar-search-old.
O.o

you're free to make a post on Canny lol, but from what I've seen it's highly unlikely that direct avatar searches are going to be added to VRChat, for the exact reasons Atiash brought up
if you can search for avatars and favorite them without visiting avatar worlds, what's the point of joining avatar worlds?
then you'd have to get people to tag their avatars under those themes
You can already do something similar to this with well-tagged worlds (worlds tagged with common search terms of the avatars they contain)
Yus
If it were as easy as "this button adds feature", the app would be complete.
It's so much deeper than that.
bruh how did i revive a channel just by asking a question
@agile heath thnx
would recommend making a post on https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests, by the way! c:
note that bug reports/feature requests aren't documented here, so submitting a canny is the best way to request something like this
no problem?
I've cloning off always. But not that it matters since i mostly use my private avatars which you can't clone no matter if cloning is enabled or not.
If you're a distributor, you might want people to get your product from you directly rather than second hand from others.
I.E visit your content.
i have a question does anyone have a octodad avatar
#avatar-search-old or search "Octodad" in the worlds menu c:
They should put a tracker on the toothbrush avatar and they can just nuke any account that has it favorited
Nah ion even know who made it
A vrchat team member??
its a famous youtuber i think
nah, most of the current public avatars were made by community members
ya but it has that youtuber @ on it
World creators*
I hate toothbrushes
cringedubs
Why would World creators care if someone got public avatars elsewhere? Generally it's avatar creators, or some sort of mix.
i made an anti-brush avatar very recently and so far the rebellion is going great
what color is a carrot, a uh carrot uh uh a carrot is a carrot you know idk about that one.
hello, how long till i can upload a skin?
?upload
You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.
As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.
Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions
thx
how can it happen that a messaging system for invites breaks playermods in SDK2?
Uhm.
There was more then that what got implement and is more likely to be the cause if that is an issue now. 
Also, beta beeing beta, so lot's of stuff can still change. 
To not confuse live and beta, it's also best to keep any beta topic to #open-beta-discussion 
!online
There are 21073 users in VRChat currently
Muted being?
has the email verification problem not fixed yet? it doesnt seems to be sending it
thats a you problem
You don’t. You know you are blocked because you won’t see or hear the person that blocked you.
Hi VRChat bot
But if they only muted you I don’t believe you can tell
Please don’t discourage people for asking for help it’s one of #rules
I was helping
Was looking for clairificationi.
Might want to repeat that to the proper person.
and to tell if someones muted you theres a person with a Headset thst has a Line through it ontop of there head
I never seen this before.
Lawl, have been playing a game of blocked with friend for the past week. They are non-existent in the world or in the list of people in the world. Unless I am experiencing some weird bug, it's been a funny time.
That's what is part of the game. watching friend 1 talking to blocked friend with the moment of saying they are taking to the voices in their head.
am i allowed to self promote
no cause normally im pretty sure it only happens when ur being blocked by a Steam user, because ive been blocked by a Steam user and same thing happens
It says ur there friend but not
Nah, not a steam user. Then again the reason why they blocked me is because I was extremely on them for teaching new players about modded clients.
it means "hold v to talk"
ohh u mean that
the v goes away if you just tap v once
V key very handy.
go to settings and Tick Toggle voice if u dont wanna hold it
yeah
full body fucked?
damn this chat died
Haha.
Haha lol yeah i know some of my friends who do this too. I'm in a private Discord server with them where they spread mods around a lot.
hey so if i update my steam account to a vrchat account, will i lose all my avatars/favorited worlds?
Kindof sad really. No point in it.
But i just let people do what they want. Don't care who uses mods and who not.
Not my problem
No. It merges.
ah alright thank you!
Have any of you made an avatar for vr chat using unity?
The amount of friends i've who uses them is extremely high. I've around 160 friends and i would say i know of at least 40-60% of them that they use them. There recently got one new added to that yesterday.
Roger
I hope VRChat fixes the sitting bug. Where the master of the room appears to be sitting but they aren't and therefore there voice is extremely glitchy. Only fix currently is to tell someone to tell him to sit down somewhere.
RIP.
That sounds like a really odd bug.
If the bug occurs you'll have to create a new instance since it'll affect everyone who joins. And if the affected person leaves, the bug will affect the next person who gets assigned master
I didn’t know that existed
huh never experienced that
Then again most of the bugs I have encountered I dubbed them features.
better make a canny post about it then
Had it just today in a public lobby
I haven’t been playing that long but I’ll eventually see it
It's irritating because their voice is coming from everywhere at once and is stuttering a lot
yeah the pug disabled the chairs because of that, which i'm relieved as I go there a bit and it happened to me a few times.
The bug that drives me nuts is when I get the 0bit download/loading screen.
Also me
I hate it a ton
Luckily i really rarely get that
But i know what you mean
Same with avatars
Where everything is downloaded already and it's a green loading bar but it actually never finishes loading
Oh, intresting. Haven't seen that one yet too.
hi
oh yeah heard about yhat bug. also on the note of sitting bugs the bug where you are doing the default desktop sitting animation on vr and u cant move ur arms and head cause its static
its such a random one holy hell. always gets me angry when it happens
or the 0mb forever loading screen
dm em if you wanna play in bout 10 min
Tiny.
Mate, you're gunna die of weight loss
does anyone wanna play
So are you actually fat or do you just think you are
Hey, my husband and I are having problems with videos players not working. We have downloaded the new youtube-dl.exe from (https://youtube-dl.org/). Is there something else we can try. This started about 3 days ago
Can a pc be used for vr for pc only avatars?
Ummm, yes
Much pog
Do you have any idea of a great affordable headset for this?
Ummm, quest 2 with virtual desktop
Ok
300 is basically the cheapest it gets rn
To fix the not being able to move bug do an emote
I'm not very grand with kg's so I just guesstimated that it was pretty light
Even better get a offbrand anchor cord that is 10ft usb 3.0 to usb c that has data and charge for 20 bucks
Yeah you multiply kilos by about 2.2 to get pounds

What’s your bmi when’s the last time you did one of those on the Wii
Is your height to weight ratio good
Nice

I mean you can get a used CV1 for 150 usd and it’s perfectly acceptable quality. Just get the anti-covid spray
Haha
Yeah that's the one downside to a used CV1 is it's all covered in fabric
Lmao, imagine
But some disinfectant spray or alcohol should help
This should be a good time to point out that you should absolutely not spray your glass lenses with disinfectant
Don't worry mate. I've been drinking it so it hasn't been on my glasses
I mean your biology is one thing but don’t ruin the headset
dont use the IPA on the lenses tho.
im hella underweight lol
ew IPA
Because you'll ruin the plastic.
i remember i was 53-55 at some point not long ago cause of uhm really unhealthy low quality pior diet debts lots of stress etc
Oculus specifically recommends against using chemical cleaners even. (On the lenses.)
Jesus I hope that’s not pounds
Not gonna make that mistake now good to know
kg's
last time i measured myself in weight which was a while ago i was like 70-something pounds
Woah woah woah how tall
short ™️
This is the heaviest I've ever been O.O
It would be nice if the type of plastic used for the lens was listed on headsets lol
70 pounds? Are you sure?
yes
You don’t meant kg?
I mean I’m 5”3 at 95 lbs
I forget there are young people in this chat
oh yeah
Yeah I still imagine everyone as in their 20s
damn i was terrified for a sec. 70 pounds is like god damn anorexia
+1 on that jamie
I’m just a freshman in HS g
Haha.. I know right... us silly... 20 somethings.... yeah.
Let’s go with that

changing our IP address fixed videos not working it seems
You shouldn’t be downloading a YouTube dll
bruh oldest person i meet in vrc was 50ish
good to hear arual
I’m friends with older
how do you unstall maps that you downloaded
clear cache
Clear your cache, in the top-right of settings
You can’t clear specific maps but you can clear everything
ingame top right of settings
yeah ^
i always backup cache after it fills
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
my pc was on 12 gb and now its on 346 mb so thx you so much
reasons
its from all the maps iv instaled
Sure.... let's just reel the clock back 5 years

I mean cache is nice and all but overpass is a good option too
that'll have to pass as a joke







