#vrchat-general-2
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this is a vive tracker for full body
the markup there makes sense. they are out of stock right now
oh, nevermind they are in stock right now
quest has link and VD though
to make it a pcvr headset
build quality is shit apparantly though
Is there a way to change VRChat cache download folder?
anyone know any particular place to look for VRchat model comms? Perhaps a discord server or something similar?
its much sharper than the quest 2 though, plus you dont have to use facebook
Quest 2 is actually a good starter pcvr headset thigh
(sorry for interrupting)
Though*
@mortal ether vrctraders discord
I steal avatars off people or just explore dead worlds
Hi
Rift s is a good starter although it’s not supported anymore
cheers
well, when oculus drops support for the rift s not even 2 years in its life, then european warranty law will kick in
or whatever its called
I’m not in Europe fuck
we have a 2 year warranty by law
Lucky
Reverb is around $1,000 here
Expensive
import tax, hell yeah
630 in germany
didnt they increase the price at some point?
yall just w8 at black friday
Black Friday doesn't exist here
i doubt any of the common vr sets will be reduced on black friday
Quest 2 is new, Reverb G2 is new, Index never was on sale
I mean I just looked and found 3 offers selling them for 630
How optimum is playing with just hand controllers with monitor?
the cheapest one i could find is 699€
Tracking controllers without a headset would be a pain
if you're sitting at a desk
unless youre using lighthouse tracking
then its not different than sitting at a desk with the headet on
oh wait now I know why I found it for 630. It was without controllers
it would still suck unless you put enough space between you and your monitor and never let youy hands go under the table
Hi guys, I just can't get into a world without instantiating a new one, which means I can't hang out with people because I'm always the only one in the room, idk what's happening, any clue?
just select an instance with people in it
sometimes the user count in worlds is a bit behind, so it may be the case that everyone left already and it just shows the old number
It may be a bit better after a few more days when everyone has crashed updated the game.
weird fact that pewds has use valve index before now he use rift s👀
Warranty in Australia be like. When you buy an item you auto get warranty, including steam games
Who else leaves avatar cloning on?
Yeah me, but all my avatars are private blueprints.
But disabling cloning of public’s is silly
i am required to turn it off. the avatars i use sometimes are not meant for the public, but rather for a specific group of people
how can i find spanish rooms?
anyone else crashing as soon as they start the game?
i am required to turn it off. the avatars i use sometimes are not meant for the public, but rather for a specific group of people
@regal furnace the thing is disabling cloning is more of a social thing than a protection thing. Anyone can slap a public avatar blueprint on a pedestals and then use it, so I don’t see much of a point disabling cloning.
has the recent patch fixed the issues with Avatar animations/toggles not syncing? o.o
If someone wants it they can get it via entirely legitimate means by uploading a world with it and then deleting it
the world with the pedestals is hidden for the public. the only way they can get them is by getting all the IDs of the avatars
or rather not easy to find
Right but the blueprint ids are public information 
Anyone can upload a world with them to change into them and then discard the world
i know, and there are other ways to get these avatars
Matthew 10:26 - "So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known."
yeap, I did
@warm scaffold are you in the beta? Version mismatches can cause this
There's no beta...?
ok well i was just asking
i have a buddy who always plays the beta when its available and its frustrating because i join on him and hes not there lol
Much like how I usually end up in empty publics when the menu says there are 4+ players... Errm.
@covert chasm sorry for the ping but I cant find the canny post where you said it, but I saw you mention that MMD worlds work now thanks to the recent changes made,
and I wanted to ask for some more info, do avatar/world makers need to change stuff? I just tried it out with my 3.0 avatar and it literally works 50% which is funny, only the lower body is being animated (im in FBT)
upper body, head and arms are still being tracked.
Is this expected, is this a bug that might be fixed soon? Or do avatar/world makers need to do sth?
buy valve index
@winter heart wait for HP Reverb G2 and Samsung DecaGear. Both are cheaper than index and higher resolution than index.
And deca has finger, eye, mouth, and hip tracking
Might get buyers remorse if you jump on index right now
I didn’t look at them last night but didn’t seem to be affected much at all. All of the chaos is sort of quarantined to discord, which are people that aren’t playing VRchat right now anyway
In game no one really notices since emotes don’t really affect the game in any major way.
Regular network IK works fine so a few cosmetic breakages don’t stop people from playing
And of course that among us world is like 18% of the users right now and they don’t care lol
hey, there is a problem with youtube videos? it seems to doesn't work anymore
To be honest most people have animations disabled anyway
“Adeon you are hovering everywhere”
“It’s a skateboard you have anims blocked”
How much of VRChats population fell off as a result of the update
@rustic gorge probably not toooo much tbh. the hardcore members are pretty loyal (i mean theres really no other competition either and NEOS is really hard to get into)
@lone scroll MMD worlds don't work out of the box. They require a new setup. The old method used button UI event and FinalIK hacky methods which we can't (and don't) support. The new method is much simpler-- use an animator with the logic set up for all the motions, sit in the station, trigger the animation events somehow (easiest way is with Udon)
As long as you're using the new stations (and whoever made the animator accounted for avatar versions as the docs lay out), AV2 and AV3 both work fine
sounds good! so just wait and hope the MMD world creators update their world and were good to go? great
thanks
yep
za warudo
. . . nani?!
Yay.. been sat here at home for 5 hours now with no fucking power aaaaa

Anyone wanna tell me how to fix the glitch where the second you log in it freezes but you can still hear the audio please I can’t deal with it
Where the active chat mods at
I’m not trying to be rude I’m just so sick of it
i think its better to ask in #user-support-old, more peps that know these kinds of things lurk in there
Thx
Fix yar shit VRC like cmon.. it cant be that hard Gix everything and then dont touch the game at all cause ya clearly dont know wha any of ya are doing!!
no
Its just better that they leave the game alone cause they dobt know wha they are doing
no
Well, I'm bout to head to bed. Not to rush y'all on the dev team, I just hope the 3.0 fix is out by tomorrow. Just about everything I've made is Av3.0. Good luck.
Keep in mind that the changes to write defaults were not an accident (they are in the docs now) so those are going to need to be updated if that is the reason for your 3.0 content not working
is the reason friends list doesnt load at all cant even expand the tab too is because of the server-side changes? or is this now broken?
how do i even update that shit
is anyone else seeing people upload gore/animal cruelty videos on media players
You'll likely need to change some of the controllers in 3.0 so that it has a default animation to revert too. The change was done to help get everyone on the same page and unify avatar creation
is there a way to turn off vrchat media players
Rather not have them auto play either , guess you could make a empty youtube.dl so it errors out, havnt tried
I really need to because there's a lot of users that like to play fucked up videos
Had a few crashes when they kept changing video at one place
I saw really bad animal cruelty on accident because someone thought it would be funny to play it loudly in a public room
so i wonder when they fix audio
Wait, so we need to redo all the 3.0 avatars basically?
just after it got released, you broke it?
And we need to reupload everything?
wait for fix,
basically
Dont try to fix it, its a bunch of synch issues
frauds and hacks
well kep having for 3sdk avatars still issues of not menus /effects been shown for others ( wierdly fixed by recalibrating fbt some times ) bones and colliders going all crazy ( like an whip that goes helicopter mode ) and the avatar list keeps closing every 5 sec so cant load most of my uploaded avatars ingame -.-
can someone help me please?
me and my boyfriend are trying to watch youtube videos in a video room
we're in room of the sleep i believe its called
we tried to enter a short soutube url from when you copy it from the youtube app
didnt load anything
then we tried entering a long one you get when you paste the adress into a browser
Google/YouTube itself is trying to break any apps that pull its videos without its ads.
but it was too long?
like it wouldnt let me keep typing to enter the full url
and just entering the url seems like SUCH a complicated and tedious way to do it
just-
how on earth are you supposed to watch videos together in vr chat??
turning off write defaults didnt do shit against the issues
Yes the bugs are not related to write default at all
I really hope this stuff wil lbe fixed in time for halloween partying
They are bugs. You aren’t going to work around them.
yeah why do they constantly tell everyone that its that
I've made a Halloween avatar and have plans with friends to run around
🥓
The new documentation saying to not use write defaults just came at the same time as a bunch of unrelated bugs. the two are not correlated.
just revert the update already like wtf
@manic spade have y both tried to put the link in? if not try that and if it still doesnt work try it in a new world and if it still doesnt then its broken like everything else in this game lol
Reverting it would make it pretty tricky to fix the bugs
thats what the beta branch is for
Devs already said they aren’t doing a rollback
I wish they would revert some and give us lead time to fix them, then leave everything broken until fixed, I got to learn just how to do the fix and I have way too many functions to figure out how to get default state animations
Reverting it would make it pretty tricky to fix the bugs
@languid beacon this is an aspect I don't understand. Isn't that what the stage/beta env is for?
New bugs can crop up on a live build vs a beta, happens all the time
but these were reported in beta
Look I’m not a dev just repeating that they said yesterday they aren’t doing a rollback.
ye
Has anybody else been having a glitch where all game audio suddenly cuts out? It isnt my headset i don't think. I know it was happening to a few people directly after the update the other day, but it is still happening to me every so often. Im sorry if this has already been talked about, I just joined this server so I am not sure
yeah these issues were known in the beta
Has anybody else been having a glitch where all game audio suddenly cuts out? It isnt my headset i don't think. I know it was happening to a few people directly after the update the other day, but it is still happening to me every so often. Im sorry if this has already been talked about, I just joined this server so I am not sure
@vocal shard I had this happen only with avatar voices. Check https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports
and if it's not there you can report it
Alrighty, thank you very much
I don't care
never
Hotfix WHEN?
the fix is never comin mate
It's usually a temporarily fix till they fuck up again anyways
because after they fix it theyll break it again
Bait
Im so close to leaving this game mate this shit pisses off so fucking bad
its always the same
Same
uh
Do they realize the fking mental stress they put us through each fucking time?
@manic spade have y both tried to put the link in? if not try that and if it still doesnt work try it in a new world and if it still doesnt then its broken like everything else in this game lol
@cursive coral wym?
dude i cant do any comissions rn
stop bragging bruh
You can work on commissions. You just can't verify that they're complete and properly animated until this is fixed. And it's only been two days
yeah but how long will this shit go on?
They say they're aware of the issues and working on fixing them
they said the same thing about basically any other bug ever
hi im new
I don't recall other bugs that were as serious as these, that broke major aspects of avatars
hi new
VRChat is stuck at a black screen for me.
are devs fixing avatar 3.0 issues now?
no i meant im new to the serva
You should always be prepared for scenarios like this if you do professional work.
VRChat as a whole is a in developement alpha.
Is it nice? No.
Rollbacks are a whole different level, and some bug's dont even get discovered before they go live due to more uniqueness and you can fix them better with the broad dataset.
are devs fixing avatar 3.0 issues now?
@weak lantern
ya they say they're working on them, and a bunch of the highly upvoted ones on https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports are marked asIn Progress
ima stick too 2.0

Have both versions 🤷♂️
i want to play vr chat but it wont let me do my parsword
kinda lazy
hey
Is it possible to relocate the cache i need c drive space
hey umm, i need help here
i can't start vrchat for some reason, it crashes when i open it
it says:
"VRChat.exe has stopped working"
but in portuguese
and i dont know how to fix that
I am having issues with users avatar cloning enabled states not updating when they turn it on.
@hollow patio Yes, https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-202032p5
the first line
Which channel should I go to for making sure a model works and getting help with animations and stuff
ok so 3.0 avatars are fukdd
Fantastic thank you
So vr chat isnt loading on steam, is that a problem for anyone
I can't login via steam either
well friendslist is even more broken than ever xD
has the mute icon always pulsed? i dont remember it being that annoying
cant even hide it without hiding the whole hud
well i had a issue where the screen was black for a while then it took a while before i could get in my home but then it seems to be fine now
#announcements <- answers all questions regarding updates, fixxes beeing released or anything that way.
I love the new spookality hub
uwu
uwu
still dont understand why a broken update was kept few days before Halloween, hate to think how many avatars made for this got destroyed
yea. i dont think anyone actually test the betas no matter how much proof there is
Which channel should I go to for making sure a model works and getting help with animations and stuff
@deft temple #avatar-help
im new
Hi new, I'm dad
how can i add someone
Oh, thank you
and be best friends forever
You in vr or desktop?
vr
add michaelsxs 0232 to play among us
dm me if you want to play
Okay, on desktop hit escape and goto social, then from there you can type in someones name @vocal shard
thank you!!
Yw ^-^
there are no patch today?
dm me if you want to play among us
No need to spam it Michael >.>
there was this one horror map where you could only see the monster through this tiny lens and you were given limited lives
is there any map kinda like that? it was a really good horror map
heyo
Is anyone having problems updating their 3.0 worlds? 😮
ping
back at it again with the patch
the patch notes is a copy paste wtf
:/
Oh boy I can't wait to see whether they actually tested this update or not
Lower latency with mirror visemes is nice.
@manic spade sorry didnt see u ping me anytime the video player doesnt work i have someone else try it and if it still doesnt work i try a new instances of the world
Taking bets on whether the changelog is even accurate
I just want my avatar v3 toggles to work lol
I just want to be understood and stuff 😦
Deep
Bruh this update wont allow new worlds to be uploaded and work
make a canny
I'm sure they're working on it
The devs don't even use the canny, they use an internal tracking system.
And they probably want it fixed more than you do
im aware
oof
Just use the pre-update SDK 3, it actually works fine.
oh well i guess
vrchat release cycle be like:
- new release
- patch 1 sorry guys we broke something from last release
- patch 2 we are still working on fix for that but we fixed these other issues
[...] - patch 6 this should be the one
@marble totem If they dont use canny, why do they have a canny?
The one before they imploded everything
Im not using the updated SDK3 though
My toggles on my old avatar don't work now, that part is retroactive
unless i have to update it
@vestal pier The theory is that they have some guy who imports the bugs to the internal tracker
what is pre-update SDK 3? is that beta version or something?
Viseme issues might be the new SDK only
What theory?
I just want to be understood and stuff 😦
@drowsy galleon deep
The design theory.
i think they have not realize that not only is there SDK file broken. but so is there social tab. none of my friends can get my invits nor requests sometimes.
What are you on? https://feedback.vrchat.com/
@manic spade sorry didnt see u ping me anytime the video player doesnt work i have someone else try it and if it still doesnt work i try a new instances of the world
@cursive coral
thanks so much for the advice!!
Still sounds like a lot of effort just to watch a video haha, having to enter in a youtube adress in vr is time consuming. I dont have link or anything yet so i cant just copypaste it, guess i better make it a long video so its worth it lol
I’m curious does anyone have any trouble signing in with there username if it contains symbols such as <
dab
@astral gazelle That's a known bug that's in server team's list to fix some time soon. You can still login with email, sorry for the need to work around it in the first place :(
its ok
It happens
I have a oculus and it didn’t let me log in with email it only gave me the option for user name
You can just put email in there anyway and it'll look that up instead
I believe so anyway. I don't touch any client code at all
Any ETA for av3 fixes
soon
My facials and toggles only work locally sooo thats uh kinda server stuff rite
No?
They work fine on the old SDK from what I've seen.
That's client side most likely
Rebuild with it (after making backups) and it should work.
break almost all important functions on AV3
days before official avatar contest
Somehow it's not an rollback worthy emergency
break almost all important functions on AV3
days before official avatar contest
Somehow it's not an rollback worthy emergency
@ashen fog Instead of moaning just give them a chance to fix it
I'm sorry, but shut your pride back were it came from, roll back, and release update when it's ready
The models are not from a new sdk 3X
🙄
Hey man, I was told by a certain cirno avatar that unit testing would be too complex.
how about stop being toxic 🙂
Bruh dont be a dick
Let them fix the problem
So who are we to argue with them.
Mabe when VRChat devs stop being toxic and incompetent?
Wtf?
lol
The only one being toxic right now is you actually, Mauseris :p
@molten gale no eta. 🙁
How about using betas and reporting bugs
how about reacting to reported beta bugs and not rolling beta to release?
Beens as he's the expert on everything, maybe they should hire him to program the whole damn game
From what I understand, the beta testers found the issues and reported them, and the update was pushed anyway. This is not first-hand info, though.
There are group beta tests
And they somehow missed blatant nonworking avatars?
Or just let things happen and wait to see what the results will be :p
no, they didnt miss it
^
I was actually the one who caught the av3 bug when it was in beta
Devs ignored them and now you tell me that I'm toxic when I'm salty about it?
Give me a shot to explain what happened
"ignoring" bugs isn't toxic
When it breaks thousands peoples of communities, breaks your own avatar contest?
calling the devs "frauds and hacks" is being toxic
Bugs are to be expected with any game update, just let them fix it
It's just childish pride
it means youre able to still enjoy playing the game despite some problems, and yes I can understand "wanting better".
I caught the bug in beta, my lack of understanding of animators lead them to help me fix the issue for my avatar specifically not understanding it would actually impact all avatars.
also its an early access free game
Rollbacks are expected when you royally fuck up
with milions and milions of funding
Sorry, no excuses
We expected a roll back, but its days into fixing it now. not going to happen.
bruh moment
im just gonna wait and see
Stop defending them not fixing royal fuck up by pushing older code
and THEN doing proper fix and releasing update when it's actually done
Rollbacks aren't great, nor will they solve everything in every scenario, but I personally think this situation warrants it
Im not sure if youre understanding it isnt going to happen
bruh, if that was how vrc was half the content in the game now wouldnt be here now lmao
if hey fix it before weekend im happy
roling back because an update broke something, whats new? they take 3 steps forward and 6 backwards
If you all keep defending them instead for punishing, no, they will keep breaking shit and loosing thousands of creators time
You can't just rollback every single time something breaks, it's easier to just fix it in a new patch
The game over the last few days has been bordering on playable, and over that boundary in public worlds where new users become experienced with the game
^
Rollbacks aren't needed for every issue, but one on this scale? Absolutely.
No, but this is MAJOR fuck up, broke the only big good feature, before a contest utilising it is in a few days!
I agree, but it wont happen.
:p
I know and agree it won't happen
The contest judging is delayed.
start @ tupper every second and maybe
They have already said they're delaying the judging
Maus you type alot but are you able to read?
Please don't do that, I'm trying to fix the game for you. 🙂
^^^^
One can dream, though.
areyou like mad cause your in the contest or something, vrc is always laggy and half broken but thats because its early access
No you aren't, apparently you just like to write midnight apology letters
Please don't use the early access label as an excuse.
Dont be a dick and tag him constantly
I don't think you guys want Tupper to try to fix the code either, he's not a client engineer. 
^^^^^^
True, I'm not an engineer. I don't fix things-- as Nyx said, you don't want me writing code 😛
But he is the community manager, who should talk to his boss
wait tupper didnt make vrchat singlehandedly?
As someone with games on Steam under the early access title, it's best to strive to be better than that.
True, I'm not an engineer. I don't fix things-- as Nyx said, you don't want me writing code 😛
@covert chasm Maybe I do 😛
vrchat isnt ran by a huge dev team with hundreds of people work takes time
My "boss" (man its kinda weird to write it like that, not quite how it works) is well, well aware of the state of things and how much we're doing to get this working for y'all. I understand its frustrating (my avatars are broken too) and we're working as hard as we can to get it fixed ASAP.
Unfortunately, we can't power bugfixes with pings, so

would be cool if you could power them that way
Rollback, fix it in normal non crunch time and release again later!
game would be fixed in minutes
@covert chasm theres something called a scripter.
Is a fix likely before FFF
Sadly some people in the community seem to think everything comes outta thin air and complaining
Nobody's gonna have any issue if update is delayed but relatively fuckup less
I imagine they have gone over if rolling back is a good option.
I think they prefer to be called "Unity Engineers" 😛
or whatever the proper title for that would be
Gotta have a more fancy title I guess 😉
nerds
nerds need direction of what to code and when to release
Executive engineer of Unity based implementation

calling ppl nerds is my job aaa
when is avatars loading in and your game hitching gonna be fixed
not anymore
The viewpoint still teleports instead of moving up and down when you crouch : /
it is dreadful
see, that was how it worked before AV3, and when it changed, people wanted it back to "teleport" crouch/stand
Was that covered at all actually, why did the crouching revert back to instant?
The viewpoint moving like that is intentional
whats happing to vr chat.?
wasn't intentional
I prefer instant honestly
happening*
quite jarring when it switched to smooth
I have an idea guys
i thought it would have been fixed by now..
the hitching is not vrc fault
:p
Happened as a result of other changes, its a "bug" but we're triaging
I have an idea
They did a booboo and are fixing it slowly, instead of rolling back and redoing it slowly, while we get our avatars working back
People just cant optimize
i know but im sure they could find a work around
no, its not that, it's a 2018 thing
you will hitch if theres multiple people regardless of if the avatar is optimized
Rolling back is neither possible (for infrastructural reasons I am not nerd enough to understand) and also not something we want to do. For this particular instance, we will not be rolling back. I appreciate the concern and input, but asking for one is wasted keystrokes.
if only rollback was the solution to everything in life
I dont want to be that guy but, inability to rollback sounds like a huge oversight.. ?
Nah
not having scripts for server docker virtual machines in git, so you can rollback fast
From what I understand, there's a lot of infrastructure upgrades, etc etc etc that make it very difficult and not really worth it to do so
if only rollback was the solution to everything in life
@tiny sigil Man, sometimes I wish
again, I'm kinda paraphrasing
its upsetting that the game is still in a horrible state while everyone's wanting to play it because of quarantine
Anyway, I see, you've changed backend too much, migrated some data, and rollback could take longer than the fix, should have told so in first place
We don't typically share intimate details of backend data structure, networking, etc etc 😛
We hope that us being the developers of VRChat itself implies enough expertise for people to take our words as "well, I guess that's how it is", but..
¯_(ツ)_/¯
You should.
Also, Tupper, you really should introduce something like "open beta testing parties" or something, launch a never have I ever world, party, or something. A little event, have a full instance, tet lots of avatars, right now, I log in into empty beta, and can't even properly check if my avatar is syncing properly
We've done that a few times in the past-- its a mixed bag
update is causing crashes
Yea? This mixed bag would in 5 minutes identify all the avatar issues, voice cutout issues, random dynamic bone spazzing and fps loss etc
Not true at all
And you expect it to be that easy?
gaming
One of the biggest issues with testing is that, honestly, no matter how many people you have test, there is no way you as much data as you would by throwing it in live with 16k people at once
ok kareneris, telling people how to do their job and demanding stuff this much.
Again, i explained this previously...
We gaming
g-gaming?
You really got some organisation issues, regression testing issues, and communication issues
we gaming
Your moaning is getting boring
non gamer
block me
communism
finally some good fucking food
blocked
multimple ppl on build 1006 crashing randomly
unsubscribed
Ignoring "moaning" is what brought this mess
I guess all the VRChat players got too used to this that they defend it now
At least it wasn't released this friday
gaming.wav
like last few patches, which thankfully didn't break too much
Ignoring "moaning" is what brought this mess
@ashen fog 100 almost identical messages by you is not likely to help anything
gaming.ogg
game oclock
so you like games
Abc, believe me when i say some of the oldest most dedicated members were the first to ream the team over this.
yea
Maybe if you stopped deflecting and defending bad choises of vrchat management
i like games
oh so your a gamer i see
god just let them do their danm job,
ye
Maus what are you even on about at this point
fellow gamer in the chat
im just trying to game
gamers rise up
i prefer to be able to hear people when i am gaming
About you defending bad decisions of vrchat, their lack of communication and proper regression testing, when they got full team of devs and tens of milions in investor money
please just roll back @covert chasm
I did not defend a single one of those points. but please continue on your crusade.
we need more gamers in the chat
who also likes gaming
🤷♂️
me
Did you come here to create strawmen and act like a fool?
"we cant roll back"
"ok but uhhhh roll back anyways!"
Tupper just said why, above.
omfg
what a gamer
just mute the trolls
well yall have fun
harry106 might be stronger
vote 4 rollback
this harry10? dude has showed up like 6 times
he's got the motivation not gonna lie
I wish they started properly testing their optimisations and system rewrites, to avoid major problems like this
he gonna create the ultimate harry999 army
rip
could have not released it :/
I was so happy about av30, I don't have much time to make avatars, but now I forced my avatar time in, because it became actuallly enjoyable and I liked the creative freedom
So I'm trying to find a way to look at these unity models I have on my phone but I don't know what to do because apparently unity doesn't want me to reset my password
Now, next patch, they break it 😦
it was a mistake to check public-lobby chat
Lol, I already have a girlfriend and I'm gonna be playing with her this weekend
Yea if you don’t crash every 10 mins
Yeah lol
I hope you have fun
I hope we do too
Try not to loose your sanity when you freeze
Lol I'm sure I'll be fine, she'll be on desktop
But I'll be in vr (if it wants to work)
oh i got updated 😮
still broken my gestures now freeze
welcome to VRC
Well 3.0 is still wonky.
I can wait. Some of the 3.0 anomalies have been fixed and I don't see repeating animations which is good.
anyone getting echo bug ?
Shoutout to nemi, my fav world creator
oh shit i love nemikaiser
hi
shoutout to kyoshi
Post it sent1
JP village sakura nice map
Trash map, just Deviant art model mashed together by some wanabe
Also unoptimized and garbage. He sure like to make multiple servers all orbiting himself and no one else. Oh and his umm sister.
I forgot what maps you made Nemi
he made an arkknights map

Wtf vrchat keeps crasheing everyone
Fingers cross mine doesn't as I need sleep
Yeah it seems like the new update causes some crashes
Tfmjonny cant finish his video like that
hmm

I never had any problems with vrchat
What big-free update?
vrchat is perfect
We had that?
im new to discord helo
Oh damn
oh i no longer want to associate with them
Thanks ❤️
here we go again
Vrchat devs fix game pls
its already fixed
Won't let people clone my avatar even if my cloning is on for some reason
was the avatar you're wearing set to private when it was uploaded?
That might be it but it's not my avatar so idk
avatar 3.0 got scuffed from what im seeing as well
this server side thing has done more harm then good
anyone know where the model for the among us mode came from
custom made
Hello! Where do I enquire about vrc careers?
Do most people hide "very poor" avatars? My avatar only just barely goes over the requirements for it and the only way I'm really able to fix it is by removing dynamic bones that I'm not keen to remove.
is MARO Animation World
for quest or pc
Stor, the contact page on the VRC website should probably be your contact
Passion, not necessarily, but many have the "limit dynamic bones" option enabled so chances are there are a lot of people who aren't seeing your dynamic bones anyway
I'd work on reducing the number so everyone can see them
Thank you
Thanks!
im having problems loading into worlds
im having problems loading into worlds
@crude inlet me too
Wtf is wrong with the audio?? People can't hear anything after being in a world for more than 10 minutes
I've noticed since the latency update with visemes, that despite the MIC picking up sound or not (lighting up), the visemes seem to be reacting to every little sound in the room--including the sound coming from the headset itself; very noticeable on the Index with any audio above 50%, especially world audio. Not sure if it's local or serverside.

Has anyone else visited this "Test Pilots" world yet?
TwT
Why are the young kids always the most racist?
Kid said he was 13 then started calling people the n word
They are pushing boundaries to explore the world.
It’s just that we are in a world that has a crazy fancy communication medium for all of us to use now. (The internet)
And there’s a lot of places to do that exploring without real consequences now.
Or it was all just an ironic joke! 
The world is overdosing on irony. It’s toxic in large doses.
in vr my body is stuck cross legged in like a meditating pose, and i cant move, how do i fix this?
@gentle stone make sure the proximity sensor on your HMD is working correctly.
Barring that, I’m not sure. That’s the AFK pose. You could try turning it off in settings.
im not talking and my mouth is moving in the mirror HELP ppl are calling me a fake mute
hello guys, im starting to get a little bit scared.. evreytime join a world or the game its says this: "we are anonymus, we do not forgive. we do not forget. expect us."
i really dont know what to do..
Hi everyone
hello guys, im starting to get a little bit scared.. evreytime join a world or the game its says this: "we are anonymus, we do not forgive. we do not forget. expect us."
@vocal shard Is it every world or certain worlds?
@vocal shard Is it every world or certain worlds?
@sharp saddle every world.
you need to break half your head to understand the big brains from here
Hmm... turn off Avatar sounds to rule out someone's avatar doing it (or maybe it's your own).
its justt my 2nd day playing vrchat and thats hapenning. idk how long it will stay.
:weirdchamp:
Er... hostile much?
what's with the aggressivity ?
he is just asking a question
@vocal shard did you try to switch to another avatar ? do the issue still happens ?
yep.
i sended a ticket to vrchat team.
erh.
what do you even want from me?
chill dude
If you think he should get kicked for any reason, just ping the mods

Man, this server is weird after-hours.
cunts on some shit when they made this
The action menu makes perfect sense if you make a 3.0 avatar
If you're using a basic 2.0 avatar, yeah it's pointless
What?

aand gone

They were looking to get banned... New accounts that just joined and started insulting people
I dont get it
dont think poggurs was a new account tho, seen him in this server for a while
Starting to wonder if that was Papa Poggers or not. 
Maybe open #open-beta-discussion up again and start rolling out updates to the open beta? Test before it goes live even if its small patches, maybe have a dedicated beta test team? I would apply for that 🤷♂️ if that means we are listened too and bugs are getting fixxed I bet a lot more people would help out test
Open beta has been constantly updated and running for the last few days. You can use it now and still play with the live build to help test the next patch
well you see, how the heck are we supposed to know that 🤷♂️ ?
I see no announcement about that and it feels very unappreciated, people wont do/help for free if there is not even a platform for it, closed channels AND you want us to test stuff? nah im fine
Would help if we could see what changes are getting pushed out to the open beta
so we can hop on and test stuff, I lack the info about when was the last update? how different is it to live? what was changed? maybe some in depth details about that? etc
Also maybe organize open beta tests? have people load into a public instance with every other beta testers
do a @open beta tester or sth to get people to log in and test newest changes at a specific time
I don't know... I just help keep the chat clean... That's on the vrchat team to do
#open-beta-announcements and there is a role for open beta testers
yeah no worries
didnt they remove the role, i used to have it i dont know where it went 🤷♂️
Its still there. I have it
Gave it back to you 
thanks
Tupper even said it in the channel. I screenshotted Tupper's message
i think you guys are right with saying that people dont test enough
We run plenty of internal tests, group tests with closed testers, engineers tests on their side, we something makes it out to live, it means we didn't run into it.
so ill try to test more with friends and get them into it too
It's public knowledge and anyone can go into open beta and test it and inform the VRChat team about any bugs that has came across
Some bugs aren't found in open beta either, and when that happens it's easier to update the live client to disrupt as little as possible
Heey. Okay peeps, i cant get more than 50fps in game.
My specs are
Vive pro
Ryzen 9 3900x
32gb 3200mhz ram
Rtx 3080
Heeelp
Cpu is at 30%
Ram is at 50%
And gpu is at 50%
Do you have any background processes running?
@atomic nimbus Use the dynamic bone limiter and hide very poor avatars
Also, it can be due to player's avatar's and world optimizations.
Use the dynamic bone limiter like Ruubick said and hide very poor and poor avatars
Thats when im alone in my home world...
Also, make sure you got the latest version of your gpu drivers
What's your home world 
Open Betas are generally always available for you to test out, however, you won't be able to play with friends. Lots of testing absolutely does happen. I totally understand the frustration though, but please don't undermine the work of the team that works really hard on QAing.
It's much more complicated than it might seem at an initial glance. If you do end up testing out the Open Beta though, it will always be appreciated. We're always open to feedback and very much appreciate the people that help us test.
Cpu may be at 30% but one core is dying at 100
Aha that might be a problem
Spark i agree completely, but all the work is behind the scene so we dont know about that and so we start to hate you guys, paired with bad communication and yeah.. shitstorm incoming.
I think pushing the open beta a little more and organizing it better is a good thing to do
Cant remeber its name, but its said to be easy to run
Remember you can change the game graphics settings by holding shift at launch
VRLow is nice
Whats the big difference between the graphic settings btw? Is there a list anywhere?
Hmm. I should try our VRLow. Ruubick how is it compared to High? If you tried both.
I always been on VRHigh. So, I never got the change to test out the lower end
Or, maybe it's just for desktop 🤔
I believe the graphics settings are broken down in some pinned messaged in the #development-advanced channel
ah youre right, thank you!
Hmm, how many cores does vrchat use?
It's nice because msaa x4, but kinda sucks for worlds that use LODs
Your feedback is completely fair, @lone scroll. We will continue to always post open-beta-announcements for you to see what we're working on. Communication can definitely be better so feel free to let us know what we can do to improve.
I do not really have time to be online during week, but issues listed for avatars 3.0 are thought not to be noticed during BASIC smoke
VRChat uses all the cores it possibly can
but some of the pieces rely on one more heavily
its from 2017 but the settings probably arent changed much since the post?
Hence the "vrchat only uses one core" meme
like dyn bone
@golden scaffold nice! I will definitely get some friends in to help test stuff more often, time to stop being lazy and help out a little
Why get a 8 core processor. When all you need is a 1 core processor to run VRChat!
ofc not one core only but most of things are on one core hence bottle neck is on single core perf
Limiting dynamic bones is usually the first good step
^
It does a lot
Where do I limit dyn bones?
Sounds great! Feel free to use the #open-beta-discussion channel and keep us updated on anything you find that might need to be looked at. You might not get a response, but your message or feedback won't be overlooked.
Open your settings in vrchat. settings, and it should be under advance settings, and then it should say dync bones
but its closed 
Maybe just open the channel ONLY for people with the role, once the general open beta stops?
@atomic nimbus Open your menu, Safety, Performance options, then click dynamic bone
Then check mark the Limit Dynamic Bone Usage
Oki thanks
I forgot it was under safety and not under settings. My bad. Settings/advance settings is how you can clear cache.
@lone scroll https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta
Sorry about the confusion there. Definitely recommend using the Canny
Often times you'll probably see things that are already being reported
ah i see, alright thanks!
And remember. Reject Humanity! Embrace Virtual Reality
intentional crasher or unintentional heavy duty avatar?
who have goose avatar??
THE Goose?
I have all the geese
I need help😢
hi guys ive just woke up
anyone else believe that content creation being locked behind trust is total bullshit?
no
i don't want to actually go into public and invite 1000 purples; I want to create content.
literally who
vrchat is a social game after all...
unmoderated creativity
I understand, Nico.
You make em, someone else uploads until you can do so yourself
go write up a contract or something
Be strategically creative also
befriend someone with an old account
I caught myself two avatar creators
though the friend system broke and friend request didn't actually request
I'm making problems?
Who?
I'm getting an aura of density and vagueness from these posts.
Do you have an avatar ready for upload?
YES. i wasted $24 if i don't blue up soon.
Ummm. You can create content at any rank level. Uploading is different. You must be at least a User to upload.
And you can get that fairly easily by just playing and making friends
Go find another creator that can cater your content so you can field test it
there are plenty
Hang around fandom worlds
I'll be honest, the actual content creation part was to make myself look good. The reality is I just really want this gumroad POS as a private item sooner than later.
Welcome to Femboy Hooters, caught two NSFW avatars in first contact
I mean
Ask someone to cater it in their world
until you can cater your own
That's your only option if you still insist
I just got upgraded to New User, cool
And once you get user. Uploading content can help increase your rank faster
I don't care about anything past blue, honestly.
PRC? What
People's Republic of China
@green mulch do you remember how many you had?
i've been at this for 12 hours, active participation instead of idling mind you, and have stocked a decent amount of favorites in that time.
You expect me to be as stupid as to directly approach a staff member grovelling??
I understand that at least partially it's a matter of patience.
But this isn't a special case.
12 hours and 15-20 friends is pretty typical for a visitor, I'd bet.
twt
Buying an avatar is a very Me problem.
uvu
I'm keeping my stats a secret lmao
I mean not really
U don't want pll to just upload to much crap storage ain't cheap u know
Because it means that uses can't just create a new account if they get banned for explicit content
True but there is a reason for it lol
If there wasn't it wouldn't be like this
I don't know the specific reason but it's kinda obvious
When u just decide to think
The main reason the rank barrier is there is because people kept uploading avatars and worlds against the rules and when they got banned they just made a new account and uploaded it again
C i was right
Well true but u don't lvl up just like that it's not like u can friend all of ur friends in matter for minutes
It requires a lil work
And to make world's for a game u know nothing about is kinda dumb lol
Lost?
Wdum
Just play the game lol
@modern hill I talked about creating content but the rather embarrassing truth is that I'm just salty I can't use this avatar I bought right away.
It's hard to make efficient. I kinda wanted this thing a few hours ago.
"yes, and for banned people it's not really a problem, since they have friends they can rejoin on their new accounts"
what does joining friends have to do with uploading avatars against the tos? 🤔
Just play like a few hours today and a few hours tomorrow and find some kewl pll and u probably new user
Or u could ask someone else to upload it to their account and just put it as public and u can clone it and then turn off cloning as a kinda private public lol
Don't complain did u pay for this game?
No.
Ur basically getting free cloud storage i don't even wanna think about what the costs r
It might be better for new users yes like 1% of them, but the server costs will probably skyrock
The rules r there for a reason lol
I understand credit where it's due but you sound like you're simping for vrci right now.
In the beginning of VRChat there was no rank system to upload models.
I personally think it's a good idea
If you're willing to put the time and effort on playing the game. Then you should be able to upload.
I seen so many bad and unoptimized models made before the rank system so many terrible worlds along with them
I wasn't a fan at start because everyone hated on the ones lower than themselves
But i guess i see the reason
I personally never hated anyone below my rank
I always added cool guest users, new users, etc
Same
And I'm a trusted with over 3k hrs and with a lot of friends
But at start omg pll wore extremely toxic
click click click click
Show me da wae
yo
uvu
I never liked the knuckles lmao "one of us"x100
This isn't like some war against creators or something. Everyone loves supporting the creators in every way possible which is why new features are released to help support that. Marsy is generally right about their points. At the end of the day, VRChat is free. Getting access to upload content is quite easy and doesn't require much effort besides getting on and socializing.
^
Within a week you'll be a user if you put the time and effort into it
Just like in every game. The more time you put in the better you get.
Wanna hear my first impression of the game?
VRChat would not be fun if every single person that made an account had access to upload immediately. Plenty of people could make avatars for the wrong reasons and completely ruin new player experiences.
I got into gaia night and talked to some guy who was timon
It's the start of every game ur always lvl 1
^
If someone is being toxic. You can block them
It's a feature that's in the game
Don't let one bad apple ruin the patch
Who said anything about banning
If you FEEL that you are being threatened or personally attacked. Block the person who is doing it
I blocked so many people in vrchat. And I rarely block anyone
I totally understand. You have an avatar, I'm sure it's great and you want to be able to use it. VRChat isn't really trying to prevent you from doing so.
You don't just get randomly banned
Probably broke the one with talking about cheats
Or clients
Or how to rip etc
....
sounds a lil biased to me, this server is rlly laidback
It is
maybe they did something genuinely wrong
Legit, this server is so laid back
And the VRChat team are really chill.
If you believe they were banned unfairly, Chaos, please have them contact moderation@vrchat.com and we'll investigate it.
Don't decide for them
If i was banned by a mistake and i lived in vrc ofc I'd want it back
^
u gotta do something really fucked to get banned here tbh
Literally just play the game
What's the point of making something for a game ur not gonna spend time in
just be a cat
And look at you.
Found yourself a good model within a week and you can upload it within a week as well
Unlike you, I had to wait about a year for a good model.
While all you have to do is play for a week to get User to upload it
Made* It's 6am got no sleep
And I'm even making spelling mistakes
I never got happy with any avatar i made so at this point I'm just using public ones as i will be maybe happy for a week of i make one and making world's is more my thing anyways way more fun
Yesh
What worlds have you made?
A world called world for luna as the one I made it for didn't decide a name lmao but ye they didn't want me to work more on it so it's forever gonna stay in it's state, also i need an idea before i make something and atm i don't have one
Nature is always good
Dats against the TOS
Correct
I mean, in the beginning I couldn't get into it when I heard about it and tried it out. Then I kept grinding out on BDO and watched vrchat videos and gave it another shot and boom. Fell in love with it
And now it's my favorite game and most played. And I spent so much on VR I don't regret it
But, you can see and hear a guest user
Who cares about the ones who can't.
Talk to the ones you can talk to
I know mutes in the game who can't talk or refuse to talk.
And I love to talk to them. I find talking to mutes more enjoyable then talking to people with voices
I kinda played at the start after a few months after i got my vr i tried it i think it was around December 2017 then i just stopped played as i didn't really have anything keeping me there, then a few months later I set up my vr again and first thing I meet in the pug was this awesome dude who invited me into his smol group of 7 pll and we r still hanging out, and i kinda felt a need to log on
Yeah Marsy. I'm the same. Im still with them. After 100hrs on desktop bought me a vr
I never played desktop kek
xd
So like a yr ago i tried desktop and dats like so different
But u still get the cozy feeling
Maybe even more so than vr ngl desktop is nice
I want to move my arms around
Headpats r so good though
Like literally my reason to log on before i found my friend's group literally
Lmao
Ohh that person Left
Huh, the German furry convention server updated and now I know why it takes so much space
Anyone else has the bug where adio just decides to not work like the voice adio from other players just stops suddenly
The devs are aware and have been working on it.
quick question has anybody got the error file not found or prehab 3d unity doesn't exists when making an avatar i don't know what to do i made an avatar but i cant upload it because of this
i just got vr like yesterday where do u guys find good avatars and is there a way to not make myself teleport and then have to wait for the character to run before i release and move there?
go to settings then turn off holoport
OHHHH okay thanks
quest
alright cool so worlds like peaches avatar world and days avatars are pretty good
thank youuuuuu i’ll check those out
Ayy so much broken from the last update. I can’t even accept friend requests
Oofie try the website
Try using the steam version
Tthe steam version works fine
3070 or 3080 for vrc?
Going 3080 myself mostly cause of my screen resolution and g2 'soon'
4k? 3070 seems good for 1440p. No idea how that translate to vr performance tho
my screen is 3440x1440 , g2 is 2160x2160 pr eye
im still using a older 1080 so its about time
Why are you gonna buy g2?
Ah that seems more for 3080 territory lol, or even the top tier amd card.
Imma wait until 2030 lol
I've been running a 980ti that just died so I'm itching for a new gpu :c
People who say the GTX 1080 is bad need to get their head out of their butts
For 1080p ~ its okey , it does not like higher resolutions
2560x1440 is the highest i can go without <60fps
yeah gonna wait for the 3100 series
Amd better
from their own benchmarks test? wouldnt trust it much wait for reviews
tbh most people run 1080p so it would work for most if they already have it. But I wouldn't suggest to buy it now unless its c h e a p
Who needs more then 4k
Try a vr in high res you wont go back to low 🤷♂️
does vrc even support ray tracing lol
No
There's more to the card then just that feature
Don't need raytracing it's just like the wii
can also use the DLSS to upscale from a lower res, its not just going from 4k to 8k
Who needs 8k
We should go back to dos6.11 , who need progress
Also can you use a Pentium. Pc with the 3080
rendering at 1280x720 and upscaling to 4k is god tho
even if the AMD gpus are really better, the stuff nvidia is doing with their tensor cores is really impressive
I'm just saying the gpu is going to be too powerful for people to handle
- I use ray tracing almost on the daily so its pretty important for it to be good and well supported
nah not really
if you use it for any sort of work you are gonna be maxing it out 🤷♂️
I mean thats why the 3090 is so appealing.
Bruh some people get more fps in vr chat that are using get 980 cards then people who use rtx 2080
considering you can easily use over 16gb of VRam in certain processes the 24 is very desirable for the price
its almost like their headset/ cpu/ mirror size and more make a difference lol
can't wait for when my gpu has more ram than the rest of the computer
that wont ever happen
you getting a 3100 nil?
Gpus are getting too a head then cpus
3100? No lol. js RAM and vRAM going up and up. I remember thinking 6GB was a lot of vRAM >_>
Same
Although upgrading my RAM might be a good idea now since its cheap
mfw I have 6gb of Vram
damn, how epic would it be if GPUs would have upgradable ram slots, kinda like on the motherboard but on steroids
I doubt that would take off
technically making the ram a slot instead of soldered on can hinder its performance
and it would be annoying to buy a 400€ gpu and than have to buy Vram on top of that
it was a thing before, but i think manufacturing cost is what killed it
Intel still doing it , but its expensive, the NUC things
nuc has replaceable Vram?!
oo, interesting
@vocal shard at my old job, we had a runninx gag that every old piece of tech without a clear model number was an x2030. when NVIDIA announced the 20 series cards we were so fuckin hyped that the real 2030 might happen. And then 16 series reared it's back end into our dreams...
Lol
Hmmm? I'm broke
Do you use VRChat for living or gaming?
Gaming? I don't game lol
Lmao
gamer 😎
Who's that guy on the vrc dis Ord who always shows his cpu temp
who have GOOSE avatar pls :(
hey i just got my rtx3070
rtx 3070 ? pfft
imagine not having a 3080
3080 too overkill for my needs
overkill or nothing
i game at 1080p why would i need anything above the 3070?
Eyo watch this


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