#vrchat-general-2

1 messages · Page 1142 of 1

zenith cipher
#

ah, that is a tracker

regal furnace
#

this is a vive tracker for full body

zenith cipher
#

the markup there makes sense. they are out of stock right now

#

oh, nevermind they are in stock right now

feral obsidian
#

I need something that can hook up with PC avatars

#

so Quest is out of the window

regal furnace
#

quest has link and VD though

#

to make it a pcvr headset

#

build quality is shit apparantly though

vocal shard
#

Is there a way to change VRChat cache download folder?

feral obsidian
#

reverb almost cost as much as my laptop

#

sad

mortal ether
#

anyone know any particular place to look for VRchat model comms? Perhaps a discord server or something similar?

regal furnace
#

its much sharper than the quest 2 though, plus you dont have to use facebook

obtuse vine
#

Quest 2 is actually a good starter pcvr headset thigh

mortal ether
#

(sorry for interrupting)

obtuse vine
#

Though*

regal furnace
#

@mortal ether vrctraders discord

feral obsidian
#

I steal avatars off people or just explore dead worlds

frozen sigil
#

Hi

vocal shard
#

Rift s is a good starter although it’s not supported anymore

mortal ether
#

cheers

regal furnace
#

well, when oculus drops support for the rift s not even 2 years in its life, then european warranty law will kick in

#

or whatever its called

vocal shard
#

I’m not in Europe fuck

regal furnace
#

we have a 2 year warranty by law

vocal shard
#

Lucky

feral obsidian
#

Reverb is around $1,000 here

regal furnace
#

oh damn

#

its 600 everywhere else though

frozen sigil
#

Expensive

feral obsidian
#

import tax, hell yeah

regal furnace
#

(except germany, austria and switzerland)

#

here its 750

broken plover
#

630 in germany

regal furnace
#

didnt they increase the price at some point?

elder hawk
#

yall just w8 at black friday

feral obsidian
#

Black Friday doesn't exist here

regal furnace
#

i doubt any of the common vr sets will be reduced on black friday

#

Quest 2 is new, Reverb G2 is new, Index never was on sale

broken plover
#

I mean I just looked and found 3 offers selling them for 630

feral obsidian
#

How optimum is playing with just hand controllers with monitor?

regal furnace
#

the cheapest one i could find is 699€

pseudo basalt
#

Tracking controllers without a headset would be a pain

#

if you're sitting at a desk

broken plover
#

unless youre using lighthouse tracking

#

then its not different than sitting at a desk with the headet on

#

oh wait now I know why I found it for 630. It was without controllers

pseudo basalt
#

it would still suck unless you put enough space between you and your monitor and never let youy hands go under the table

feral obsidian
#

sounds sad

#

guess I'll get a proper set

pseudo basalt
#

i don't think it's worth trying

#

yeah, just save up for a proper set

warm scaffold
#

Hi guys, I just can't get into a world without instantiating a new one, which means I can't hang out with people because I'm always the only one in the room, idk what's happening, any clue?

regal furnace
#

just select an instance with people in it

warm scaffold
#

yeap, I did

#

but it doesn't work

regal furnace
#

sometimes the user count in worlds is a bit behind, so it may be the case that everyone left already and it just shows the old number

hollow ingot
#

It may be a bit better after a few more days when everyone has crashed updated the game.

elder hawk
#

weird fact that pewds has use valve index before now he use rift s👀

vocal shard
#

Is anyone else having trouble with the ui?

#

I can't use my menu

pulsar minnow
#

Warranty in Australia be like. When you buy an item you auto get warranty, including steam games

vocal shard
#

Who else leaves avatar cloning on?

languid beacon
#

Yeah me, but all my avatars are private blueprints.

#

But disabling cloning of public’s is silly

regal furnace
#

i am required to turn it off. the avatars i use sometimes are not meant for the public, but rather for a specific group of people

flat glen
#

how can i find spanish rooms?

craggy agate
#

how do i turn off the stupid ear thing

#

i can see it on screen

fiery moon
#

anyone else crashing as soon as they start the game?

languid beacon
#

i am required to turn it off. the avatars i use sometimes are not meant for the public, but rather for a specific group of people
@regal furnace the thing is disabling cloning is more of a social thing than a protection thing. Anyone can slap a public avatar blueprint on a pedestals and then use it, so I don’t see much of a point disabling cloning.

shy wigeon
#

has the recent patch fixed the issues with Avatar animations/toggles not syncing? o.o

languid beacon
#

If someone wants it they can get it via entirely legitimate means by uploading a world with it and then deleting it

regal furnace
#

the world with the pedestals is hidden for the public. the only way they can get them is by getting all the IDs of the avatars

#

or rather not easy to find

languid beacon
#

Right but the blueprint ids are public information 

#

Anyone can upload a world with them to change into them and then discard the world

regal furnace
#

i know, and there are other ways to get these avatars

wanton kiln
#

Matthew 10:26 - "So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known."

late void
#

yeap, I did
@warm scaffold are you in the beta? Version mismatches can cause this

hollow ingot
#

There's no beta...?

late void
#

ok well i was just asking

#

i have a buddy who always plays the beta when its available and its frustrating because i join on him and hes not there lol

hollow ingot
#

Much like how I usually end up in empty publics when the menu says there are 4+ players... Errm.

lone scroll
#

@covert chasm sorry for the ping but I cant find the canny post where you said it, but I saw you mention that MMD worlds work now thanks to the recent changes made,
and I wanted to ask for some more info, do avatar/world makers need to change stuff? I just tried it out with my 3.0 avatar and it literally works 50% which is funny, only the lower body is being animated (im in FBT)
upper body, head and arms are still being tracked.
Is this expected, is this a bug that might be fixed soon? Or do avatar/world makers need to do sth?

languid beacon
#

buy valve index
@winter heart wait for HP Reverb G2 and Samsung DecaGear. Both are cheaper than index and higher resolution than index.

#

And deca has finger, eye, mouth, and hip tracking

#

Might get buyers remorse if you jump on index right now

#

I didn’t look at them last night but didn’t seem to be affected much at all. All of the chaos is sort of quarantined to discord, which are people that aren’t playing VRchat right now anyway

#

In game no one really notices since emotes don’t really affect the game in any major way.

#

Regular network IK works fine so a few cosmetic breakages don’t stop people from playing

#

And of course that among us world is like 18% of the users right now and they don’t care lol

hollow ocean
#

hey, there is a problem with youtube videos? it seems to doesn't work anymore

languid beacon
#

To be honest most people have animations disabled anyway

#

“Adeon you are hovering everywhere”

“It’s a skateboard you have anims blocked”

late void
#

How much of VRChats population fell off as a result of the update
@rustic gorge probably not toooo much tbh. the hardcore members are pretty loyal (i mean theres really no other competition either and NEOS is really hard to get into)

covert chasm
#

@lone scroll MMD worlds don't work out of the box. They require a new setup. The old method used button UI event and FinalIK hacky methods which we can't (and don't) support. The new method is much simpler-- use an animator with the logic set up for all the motions, sit in the station, trigger the animation events somehow (easiest way is with Udon)

As long as you're using the new stations (and whoever made the animator accounted for avatar versions as the docs lay out), AV2 and AV3 both work fine

lone scroll
#

sounds good! so just wait and hope the MMD world creators update their world and were good to go? great

#

thanks

covert chasm
#

yep

orchid path
#

za warudo

hollow ingot
#

. . . nani?!

brisk shadow
#

Yay.. been sat here at home for 5 hours now with no fucking power aaaaa

slate rock
pearl galleon
#

Anyone wanna tell me how to fix the glitch where the second you log in it freezes but you can still hear the audio please I can’t deal with it

#

Where the active chat mods at

#

I’m not trying to be rude I’m just so sick of it

cold talon
#

i think its better to ask in #user-support-old, more peps that know these kinds of things lurk in there

pearl galleon
#

Thx

vocal shard
#

Fix yar shit VRC like cmon.. it cant be that hard Gix everything and then dont touch the game at all cause ya clearly dont know wha any of ya are doing!!

#

no

#

Its just better that they leave the game alone cause they dobt know wha they are doing

#

no

languid beacon
#

Working fine for me

wide crow
#

Well, I'm bout to head to bed. Not to rush y'all on the dev team, I just hope the 3.0 fix is out by tomorrow. Just about everything I've made is Av3.0. Good luck.

languid beacon
#

Keep in mind that the changes to write defaults were not an accident (they are in the docs now) so those are going to need to be updated if that is the reason for your 3.0 content not working

cursive coral
#

is the reason friends list doesnt load at all cant even expand the tab too is because of the server-side changes? or is this now broken?

tame berry
#

how do i even update that shit

sharp crest
#

is anyone else seeing people upload gore/animal cruelty videos on media players

vocal shard
#

You'll likely need to change some of the controllers in 3.0 so that it has a default animation to revert too. The change was done to help get everyone on the same page and unify avatar creation

tame berry
#

i always have a standard animation to revert to

#

still broken

sharp crest
#

is there a way to turn off vrchat media players

odd blaze
#

Rather not have them auto play either , guess you could make a empty youtube.dl so it errors out, havnt tried

sharp crest
#

I really need to because there's a lot of users that like to play fucked up videos

odd blaze
#

Had a few crashes when they kept changing video at one place

sharp crest
#

I saw really bad animal cruelty on accident because someone thought it would be funny to play it loudly in a public room

lapis yoke
#

so i wonder when they fix audio

ashen fog
#

Wait, so we need to redo all the 3.0 avatars basically?

#

just after it got released, you broke it?

#

And we need to reupload everything?

odd blaze
#

wait for fix,

tame berry
#

basically

odd blaze
#

Dont try to fix it, its a bunch of synch issues

ashen fog
#

frauds and hacks

random marlin
#

well kep having for 3sdk avatars still issues of not menus /effects been shown for others ( wierdly fixed by recalibrating fbt some times ) bones and colliders going all crazy ( like an whip that goes helicopter mode ) and the avatar list keeps closing every 5 sec so cant load most of my uploaded avatars ingame -.-

manic spade
#

can someone help me please?

#

me and my boyfriend are trying to watch youtube videos in a video room

#

we're in room of the sleep i believe its called

#

we tried to enter a short soutube url from when you copy it from the youtube app

#

didnt load anything

odd blaze
#

good luck its randomly working when it feels like it

#

players sometime work 🤷‍♂️

manic spade
#

then we tried entering a long one you get when you paste the adress into a browser

languid beacon
#

Google/YouTube itself is trying to break any apps that pull its videos without its ads.

manic spade
#

but it was too long?

#

like it wouldnt let me keep typing to enter the full url

#

and just entering the url seems like SUCH a complicated and tedious way to do it

#

just-

#

how on earth are you supposed to watch videos together in vr chat??

tame berry
#

turning off write defaults didnt do shit against the issues

languid beacon
#

Yes the bugs are not related to write default at all

charred drum
#

I really hope this stuff wil lbe fixed in time for halloween partying

languid beacon
#

They are bugs. You aren’t going to work around them.

tame berry
#

yeah why do they constantly tell everyone that its that

charred drum
#

I've made a Halloween avatar and have plans with friends to run around

vocal shard
#

🥓

languid beacon
#

The new documentation saying to not use write defaults just came at the same time as a bunch of unrelated bugs. the two are not correlated.

vocal shard
#

I am the god yato I lay thie waste with the seki

#

Norogamie reference

tame berry
#

just revert the update already like wtf

cursive coral
#

@manic spade have y both tried to put the link in? if not try that and if it still doesnt work try it in a new world and if it still doesnt then its broken like everything else in this game lol

languid beacon
#

Reverting it would make it pretty tricky to fix the bugs

tame berry
#

thats what the beta branch is for

languid beacon
#

Devs already said they aren’t doing a rollback

merry parrot
#

I wish they would revert some and give us lead time to fix them, then leave everything broken until fixed, I got to learn just how to do the fix and I have way too many functions to figure out how to get default state animations

charred drum
#

Reverting it would make it pretty tricky to fix the bugs
@languid beacon this is an aspect I don't understand. Isn't that what the stage/beta env is for?

odd blaze
#

New bugs can crop up on a live build vs a beta, happens all the time

charred drum
#

but these were reported in beta

languid beacon
#

Look I’m not a dev just repeating that they said yesterday they aren’t doing a rollback.

charred drum
#

ye

vocal shard
#

Has anybody else been having a glitch where all game audio suddenly cuts out? It isnt my headset i don't think. I know it was happening to a few people directly after the update the other day, but it is still happening to me every so often. Im sorry if this has already been talked about, I just joined this server so I am not sure

tame berry
#

yeah these issues were known in the beta

charred drum
#

Has anybody else been having a glitch where all game audio suddenly cuts out? It isnt my headset i don't think. I know it was happening to a few people directly after the update the other day, but it is still happening to me every so often. Im sorry if this has already been talked about, I just joined this server so I am not sure
@vocal shard I had this happen only with avatar voices. Check https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports

and if it's not there you can report it

vocal shard
#

Alrighty, thank you very much

torpid mason
#

I don't care

tame berry
#

never

torpid mason
#

Hotfix WHEN?

tame berry
#

the fix is never comin mate

torpid mason
#

It's usually a temporarily fix till they fuck up again anyways

tame berry
#

because after they fix it theyll break it again

languid beacon
#

Bait

tame berry
#

Im so close to leaving this game mate this shit pisses off so fucking bad

#

its always the same

torpid mason
#

Same

pliant harness
#

uh

torpid mason
#

Do they realize the fking mental stress they put us through each fucking time?

manic spade
#

@manic spade have y both tried to put the link in? if not try that and if it still doesnt work try it in a new world and if it still doesnt then its broken like everything else in this game lol
@cursive coral wym?

tame berry
#

dude i cant do any comissions rn

pliant harness
#

stop bragging bruh

tame berry
#

because the models are all broken

#

i am loosing money because of this shit

charred drum
#

You can work on commissions. You just can't verify that they're complete and properly animated until this is fixed. And it's only been two days

tame berry
#

yeah but how long will this shit go on?

charred drum
#

They say they're aware of the issues and working on fixing them

tame berry
#

they said the same thing about basically any other bug ever

left basin
#

hi im new

charred drum
#

I don't recall other bugs that were as serious as these, that broke major aspects of avatars

pliant harness
#

hi new

rancid vessel
#

VRChat is stuck at a black screen for me.

weak lantern
#

are devs fixing avatar 3.0 issues now?

left basin
#

no i meant im new to the serva

ruby needle
#

You should always be prepared for scenarios like this if you do professional work.
VRChat as a whole is a in developement alpha.
Is it nice? No.
Rollbacks are a whole different level, and some bug's dont even get discovered before they go live due to more uniqueness and you can fix them better with the broad dataset.

charred drum
#

are devs fixing avatar 3.0 issues now?
@weak lantern
ya they say they're working on them, and a bunch of the highly upvoted ones on https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports are marked as In Progress

pliant harness
#

ima stick too 2.0

weak lantern
odd blaze
#

Have both versions 🤷‍♂️

left basin
#

i want to play vr chat but it wont let me do my parsword

pliant harness
#

kinda lazy

left basin
#

and im going to get a vr sooon

#

soon

soft portal
#

hey

hollow patio
#

Is it possible to relocate the cache i need c drive space

vocal shard
#

hey umm, i need help here

#

i can't start vrchat for some reason, it crashes when i open it

#

it says:

"VRChat.exe has stopped working"
but in portuguese

#

and i dont know how to fix that

nova tundra
#

I am having issues with users avatar cloning enabled states not updating when they turn it on.

#

the first line

deft temple
#

Which channel should I go to for making sure a model works and getting help with animations and stuff

whole rapids
#

ok so 3.0 avatars are fukdd

hollow patio
#

Fantastic thank you

cyan falcon
#

So vr chat isnt loading on steam, is that a problem for anyone

dapper coyote
#

I can't login via steam either

grave totem
#

well friendslist is even more broken than ever xD

copper niche
#

has the mute icon always pulsed? i dont remember it being that annoying

#

cant even hide it without hiding the whole hud

light acorn
#

Its started pulsing since the AV3 update

#

@grave totem How exactly is it broken?

sage karma
#

well i had a issue where the screen was black for a while then it took a while before i could get in my home but then it seems to be fine now

ruby needle
#

#announcements <- answers all questions regarding updates, fixxes beeing released or anything that way.

slate rock
#

I love the new spookality hub

hearty pine
#

uwu

vocal shard
#

uwu

gleaming wedge
#

still dont understand why a broken update was kept few days before Halloween, hate to think how many avatars made for this got destroyed

honest forge
#

yea. i dont think anyone actually test the betas no matter how much proof there is

twilit sonnet
#

Which channel should I go to for making sure a model works and getting help with animations and stuff
@deft temple #avatar-help

vocal shard
#

im new

twilit sonnet
#

Hi new, I'm dad

vocal shard
#

how can i add someone

deft temple
#

Oh, thank you

vocal shard
#

and be best friends forever

twilit sonnet
#

You in vr or desktop?

vocal shard
#

vr

karmic kindle
#

add michaelsxs 0232 to play among us

vocal shard
#

noo desktop

#

im sorry

karmic kindle
#

dm me if you want to play

twilit sonnet
#

Okay, on desktop hit escape and goto social, then from there you can type in someones name @vocal shard

vocal shard
#

thank you!!

twilit sonnet
#

Yw ^-^

weak lantern
#

there are no patch today?

karmic kindle
#

dm me if you want to play among us

twilit sonnet
#

No need to spam it Michael >.>

glass maple
#

there was this one horror map where you could only see the monster through this tiny lens and you were given limited lives
is there any map kinda like that? it was a really good horror map

vocal shard
#

heyo

tame wasp
#

Is anyone having problems updating their 3.0 worlds? 😮

fast steeple
#

ping

tiny sigil
#

back at it again with the patch

vocal shard
#

the patch notes is a copy paste wtf

tame wasp
#

:/

marble totem
#

Oh boy I can't wait to see whether they actually tested this update or not

drowsy galleon
#

Lower latency with mirror visemes is nice.

cursive coral
#

@manic spade sorry didnt see u ping me anytime the video player doesnt work i have someone else try it and if it still doesnt work i try a new instances of the world

marble totem
#

Taking bets on whether the changelog is even accurate

tacit plank
#

I just want my avatar v3 toggles to work lol

drowsy galleon
#

I just want to be understood and stuff 😦

tacit plank
#

Deep

tame wasp
#

Bruh this update wont allow new worlds to be uploaded and work

vestal pier
#

make a canny

tacit plank
#

I'm sure they're working on it

marble totem
#

The devs don't even use the canny, they use an internal tracking system.

tacit plank
#

And they probably want it fixed more than you do

tame wasp
#

im aware

weak lantern
#

still no AV3 fix

#

XD

tame wasp
#

oof

marble totem
#

Just use the pre-update SDK 3, it actually works fine.

tame wasp
#

oh well i guess

gray edge
#

vrchat release cycle be like:

  • new release
  • patch 1 sorry guys we broke something from last release
  • patch 2 we are still working on fix for that but we fixed these other issues
    [...]
  • patch 6 this should be the one
vestal pier
#

@marble totem If they dont use canny, why do they have a canny?

marble totem
#

The one before they imploded everything

tame wasp
#

Im not using the updated SDK3 though

tacit plank
#

My toggles on my old avatar don't work now, that part is retroactive

tame wasp
#

unless i have to update it

marble totem
#

@vestal pier The theory is that they have some guy who imports the bugs to the internal tracker

weak lantern
#

what is pre-update SDK 3? is that beta version or something?

tacit plank
#

Viseme issues might be the new SDK only

vestal pier
#

What theory?

twilit sonnet
#

I just want to be understood and stuff 😦
@drowsy galleon deep

marble totem
#

The design theory.

vagrant yoke
#

i think they have not realize that not only is there SDK file broken. but so is there social tab. none of my friends can get my invits nor requests sometimes.

vestal pier
manic spade
#

@manic spade sorry didnt see u ping me anytime the video player doesnt work i have someone else try it and if it still doesnt work i try a new instances of the world
@cursive coral

thanks so much for the advice!!
Still sounds like a lot of effort just to watch a video haha, having to enter in a youtube adress in vr is time consuming. I dont have link or anything yet so i cant just copypaste it, guess i better make it a long video so its worth it lol

astral gazelle
#

I’m curious does anyone have any trouble signing in with there username if it contains symbols such as <

tame wasp
#

that could be why you cant sign in right now

dreamy spear
#

dab

muted wharf
#

@astral gazelle That's a known bug that's in server team's list to fix some time soon. You can still login with email, sorry for the need to work around it in the first place :(

tame wasp
#

its ok
It happens

astral gazelle
#

I have a oculus and it didn’t let me log in with email it only gave me the option for user name

muted wharf
#

You can just put email in there anyway and it'll look that up instead

#

I believe so anyway. I don't touch any client code at all

molten gale
#

Any ETA for av3 fixes

tiny sigil
#

soon

muted wharf
#

Asking the wrong guy here, Paci :p

#

I only deal with server stuff :v

molten gale
#

My facials and toggles only work locally sooo thats uh kinda server stuff rite

muted wharf
#

No?

marble totem
#

They work fine on the old SDK from what I've seen.

twilit sonnet
#

That's client side most likely

marble totem
#

Rebuild with it (after making backups) and it should work.

ashen fog
#

break almost all important functions on AV3
days before official avatar contest
Somehow it's not an rollback worthy emergency

twilit sonnet
#

break almost all important functions on AV3
days before official avatar contest
Somehow it's not an rollback worthy emergency
@ashen fog Instead of moaning just give them a chance to fix it

ashen fog
#

I'm sorry, but shut your pride back were it came from, roll back, and release update when it's ready

molten gale
#

The models are not from a new sdk 3X

ashen fog
#

chance

#

@twilit sonnet stop defending frauds and hacks

twilit sonnet
#

🙄

marble totem
#

Hey man, I was told by a certain cirno avatar that unit testing would be too complex.

tiny sigil
#

how about stop being toxic 🙂

tame wasp
#

Bruh dont be a dick
Let them fix the problem

marble totem
#

So who are we to argue with them.

ashen fog
#

Mabe when VRChat devs stop being toxic and incompetent?

tame wasp
#

Wtf?

tiny sigil
#

lol

tame wasp
#

The only one being toxic right now is you actually, Mauseris :p

vestal pier
#

@molten gale no eta. 🙁

molten gale
#

How about using betas and reporting bugs

ashen fog
#

how about reacting to reported beta bugs and not rolling beta to release?

twilit sonnet
#

Beens as he's the expert on everything, maybe they should hire him to program the whole damn game

ashen fog
#

how about organising group beta tests?

#

Who gonna join empty vrchat?

marble totem
#

From what I understand, the beta testers found the issues and reported them, and the update was pushed anyway. This is not first-hand info, though.

vestal pier
#

There are group beta tests

ashen fog
#

And they somehow missed blatant nonworking avatars?

tame wasp
#

Or just let things happen and wait to see what the results will be :p

vestal pier
#

no, they didnt miss it

tame wasp
#

^

vestal pier
#

I was actually the one who caught the av3 bug when it was in beta

ashen fog
#

Devs ignored them and now you tell me that I'm toxic when I'm salty about it?

vestal pier
#

Give me a shot to explain what happened

tiny sigil
#

"ignoring" bugs isn't toxic

ashen fog
#

When it breaks thousands peoples of communities, breaks your own avatar contest?

tiny sigil
#

calling the devs "frauds and hacks" is being toxic

twilit sonnet
#

Bugs are to be expected with any game update, just let them fix it

ashen fog
#

It's just childish pride

heady salmon
#

it means youre able to still enjoy playing the game despite some problems, and yes I can understand "wanting better".

vestal pier
#

I caught the bug in beta, my lack of understanding of animators lead them to help me fix the issue for my avatar specifically not understanding it would actually impact all avatars.

tiny sigil
#

also its an early access free game

ashen fog
#

Rollbacks are expected when you royally fuck up

#

with milions and milions of funding

#

Sorry, no excuses

vestal pier
#

We expected a roll back, but its days into fixing it now. not going to happen.

tame wasp
#

bruh moment
im just gonna wait and see

ashen fog
#

Stop defending them not fixing royal fuck up by pushing older code

#

and THEN doing proper fix and releasing update when it's actually done

marble totem
#

Rollbacks aren't great, nor will they solve everything in every scenario, but I personally think this situation warrants it

vestal pier
#

Im not sure if youre understanding it isnt going to happen

dim aurora
#

bruh, if that was how vrc was half the content in the game now wouldnt be here now lmao

molten gale
#

if hey fix it before weekend im happy

dim aurora
#

roling back because an update broke something, whats new? they take 3 steps forward and 6 backwards

ashen fog
#

If you all keep defending them instead for punishing, no, they will keep breaking shit and loosing thousands of creators time

twilit sonnet
#

You can't just rollback every single time something breaks, it's easier to just fix it in a new patch

marble totem
#

The game over the last few days has been bordering on playable, and over that boundary in public worlds where new users become experienced with the game

dim aurora
#

^

marble totem
#

Rollbacks aren't needed for every issue, but one on this scale? Absolutely.

ashen fog
#

No, but this is MAJOR fuck up, broke the only big good feature, before a contest utilising it is in a few days!

vestal pier
#

I agree, but it wont happen.

tame wasp
#

:p

marble totem
#

I know and agree it won't happen

vestal pier
#

The contest judging is delayed.

ashen fog
#

start @ tupper every second and maybe

twilit sonnet
#

They have already said they're delaying the judging

vestal pier
#

Maus you type alot but are you able to read?

covert chasm
#

Please don't do that, I'm trying to fix the game for you. 🙂

twilit sonnet
#

^^^^

marble totem
#

One can dream, though.

dim aurora
#

areyou like mad cause your in the contest or something, vrc is always laggy and half broken but thats because its early access

ashen fog
#

No you aren't, apparently you just like to write midnight apology letters

marble totem
#

Please don't use the early access label as an excuse.

tame wasp
#

Dont be a dick and tag him constantly

muted wharf
#

I don't think you guys want Tupper to try to fix the code either, he's not a client engineer. cesThink

dim aurora
#

^^^^^^

covert chasm
#

True, I'm not an engineer. I don't fix things-- as Nyx said, you don't want me writing code 😛

ashen fog
#

But he is the community manager, who should talk to his boss

vestal pier
#

wait tupper didnt make vrchat singlehandedly?

marble totem
#

As someone with games on Steam under the early access title, it's best to strive to be better than that.

twilit sonnet
#

True, I'm not an engineer. I don't fix things-- as Nyx said, you don't want me writing code 😛
@covert chasm Maybe I do 😛

tiny sigil
#

vrchat isnt ran by a huge dev team with hundreds of people work takes time

covert chasm
#

My "boss" (man its kinda weird to write it like that, not quite how it works) is well, well aware of the state of things and how much we're doing to get this working for y'all. I understand its frustrating (my avatars are broken too) and we're working as hard as we can to get it fixed ASAP.

#

Unfortunately, we can't power bugfixes with pings, so

tiny sigil
#

would be cool if you could power them that way

ashen fog
#

Rollback, fix it in normal non crunch time and release again later!

tiny sigil
#

game would be fixed in minutes

vocal shard
#

@covert chasm theres something called a scripter.

molten gale
#

Is a fix likely before FFF

twilit sonnet
#

Sadly some people in the community seem to think everything comes outta thin air and complaining

ashen fog
#

Nobody's gonna have any issue if update is delayed but relatively fuckup less

vestal pier
#

I imagine they have gone over if rolling back is a good option.

covert chasm
#

I think they prefer to be called "Unity Engineers" 😛

#

or whatever the proper title for that would be

twilit sonnet
#

Gotta have a more fancy title I guess 😉

covert chasm
#

probably just software engineer

#

🤔

vestal pier
#

nerds

covert chasm
#

yeah

#

nerds

ashen fog
#

nerds need direction of what to code and when to release

twilit sonnet
#

Executive engineer of Unity based implementation

muted wharf
molten gale
#

calling ppl nerds is my job aaa

rugged thorn
#

when is avatars loading in and your game hitching gonna be fixed

tiny sigil
#

not anymore

celest flower
#

The viewpoint still teleports instead of moving up and down when you crouch : /

rugged thorn
#

it is dreadful

covert chasm
#

see, that was how it worked before AV3, and when it changed, people wanted it back to "teleport" crouch/stand

vestal pier
#

Was that covered at all actually, why did the crouching revert back to instant?

tiny sigil
#

The viewpoint moving like that is intentional

vocal shard
#

whats happing to vr chat.?

covert chasm
#

wasn't intentional

vestal pier
#

I prefer instant honestly

vocal shard
#

happening*

vestal pier
#

quite jarring when it switched to smooth

celest flower
#

I have an idea guys

rugged thorn
#

i thought it would have been fixed by now..

molten gale
#

the hitching is not vrc fault

tame wasp
#

:p

covert chasm
#

Happened as a result of other changes, its a "bug" but we're triaging

celest flower
#

I have an idea

ashen fog
#

They did a booboo and are fixing it slowly, instead of rolling back and redoing it slowly, while we get our avatars working back

molten gale
#

People just cant optimize

rugged thorn
#

i know but im sure they could find a work around

#

no, its not that, it's a 2018 thing

#

you will hitch if theres multiple people regardless of if the avatar is optimized

covert chasm
#

Rolling back is neither possible (for infrastructural reasons I am not nerd enough to understand) and also not something we want to do. For this particular instance, we will not be rolling back. I appreciate the concern and input, but asking for one is wasted keystrokes.

tiny sigil
#

if only rollback was the solution to everything in life

vestal pier
#

I dont want to be that guy but, inability to rollback sounds like a huge oversight.. ?

covert chasm
#

Nah

ashen fog
#

not having scripts for server docker virtual machines in git, so you can rollback fast

covert chasm
#

From what I understand, there's a lot of infrastructure upgrades, etc etc etc that make it very difficult and not really worth it to do so

twilit sonnet
#

if only rollback was the solution to everything in life
@tiny sigil Man, sometimes I wish

covert chasm
#

again, I'm kinda paraphrasing

rugged thorn
#

its upsetting that the game is still in a horrible state while everyone's wanting to play it because of quarantine

ashen fog
#

Anyway, I see, you've changed backend too much, migrated some data, and rollback could take longer than the fix, should have told so in first place

covert chasm
#

We don't typically share intimate details of backend data structure, networking, etc etc 😛

#

We hope that us being the developers of VRChat itself implies enough expertise for people to take our words as "well, I guess that's how it is", but..

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen fog
#

You should.
Also, Tupper, you really should introduce something like "open beta testing parties" or something, launch a never have I ever world, party, or something. A little event, have a full instance, tet lots of avatars, right now, I log in into empty beta, and can't even properly check if my avatar is syncing properly

vestal pier
#

They exist

#

i said this, previously.

ashen fog
#

Why I never seen a ping?

#

I'm in open beta role?

covert chasm
#

We've done that a few times in the past-- its a mixed bag

molten gale
#

update is causing crashes

ashen fog
#

Yea? This mixed bag would in 5 minutes identify all the avatar issues, voice cutout issues, random dynamic bone spazzing and fps loss etc

vestal pier
#

Not true at all

twilit sonnet
#

And you expect it to be that easy?

lost phoenix
#

gaming

vast tulip
#

One of the biggest issues with testing is that, honestly, no matter how many people you have test, there is no way you as much data as you would by throwing it in live with 16k people at once

heady salmon
#

ok kareneris, telling people how to do their job and demanding stuff this much.

vestal pier
#

Again, i explained this previously...

oak sable
#

We gaming

ember tiger
#

g-gaming?

ashen fog
#

You really got some organisation issues, regression testing issues, and communication issues

lilac sentinel
#

we gaming

twilit sonnet
#

Your moaning is getting boring

lilac sentinel
#

non gamer

ashen fog
#

block me

ember tiger
#

communism

vestal pier
#

finally some good fucking food

lost phoenix
#

blocked

molten gale
#

multimple ppl on build 1006 crashing randomly

ember tiger
#

unsubscribed

ashen fog
#

Ignoring "moaning" is what brought this mess

viral summit
#

I guess all the VRChat players got too used to this that they defend it now

ashen fog
#

At least it wasn't released this friday

lost phoenix
#

gaming.wav

ashen fog
#

like last few patches, which thankfully didn't break too much

twilit sonnet
#

Ignoring "moaning" is what brought this mess
@ashen fog 100 almost identical messages by you is not likely to help anything

ember tiger
#

gaming.ogg

lilac sentinel
#

game oclock

lost phoenix
#

so you like games

vestal pier
#

Abc, believe me when i say some of the oldest most dedicated members were the first to ream the team over this.

lilac sentinel
#

yea

ashen fog
#

Maybe if you stopped deflecting and defending bad choises of vrchat management

lilac sentinel
#

i like games

lost phoenix
#

oh so your a gamer i see

tepid zenith
#

god just let them do their danm job,

lilac sentinel
#

ye

vestal pier
#

Maus what are you even on about at this point

ember tiger
#

fellow gamer in the chat

lost phoenix
#

im just trying to game

lilac sentinel
#

gamers rise up

lost phoenix
#

i prefer to be able to hear people when i am gaming

ashen fog
#

About you defending bad decisions of vrchat, their lack of communication and proper regression testing, when they got full team of devs and tens of milions in investor money

fierce briar
#

please just roll back @covert chasm

vestal pier
#

I did not defend a single one of those points. but please continue on your crusade.

lilac sentinel
#

we need more gamers in the chat

lost phoenix
#

who also likes gaming

ashen fog
#

🤷‍♂️

lilac sentinel
#

me

vestal pier
#

Did you come here to create strawmen and act like a fool?

tiny sigil
#

"we cant roll back"
"ok but uhhhh roll back anyways!"

vestal pier
#

Tupper just said why, above.

molten gale
#

omfg

vestal pier
lilac sentinel
#

what a gamer

heady salmon
#

just mute the trolls

tiny sigil
#

well yall have fun

lost phoenix
#

harry106 might be stronger

fierce briar
#

vote 4 rollback

vestal pier
lost phoenix
#

this harry10? dude has showed up like 6 times

#

he's got the motivation not gonna lie

ashen fog
#

I wish they started properly testing their optimisations and system rewrites, to avoid major problems like this

heady salmon
#

he gonna create the ultimate harry999 army

lost phoenix
#

rip

ashen fog
#

could have not released it :/

lost phoenix
#

"eventually"

#

im just trying to play combine

ashen fog
#

I was so happy about av30, I don't have much time to make avatars, but now I forced my avatar time in, because it became actuallly enjoyable and I liked the creative freedom

deft temple
#

So I'm trying to find a way to look at these unity models I have on my phone but I don't know what to do because apparently unity doesn't want me to reset my password

ashen fog
#

Now, next patch, they break it 😦

jolly ether
#

it was a mistake to check public-lobby chat

lost phoenix
#

ive had to restart my VRC like 6 times to even get into my home

#

its kinda shit

deft temple
#

Lol, I already have a girlfriend and I'm gonna be playing with her this weekend

lost phoenix
#

Yea if you don’t crash every 10 mins

deft temple
#

Yeah lol

lost phoenix
#

I hope you have fun

deft temple
#

I hope we do too

lost phoenix
#

Try not to loose your sanity when you freeze

deft temple
#

Lol I'm sure I'll be fine, she'll be on desktop

#

But I'll be in vr (if it wants to work)

tame wasp
#

oh i got updated 😮

deft trellis
#

still broken my gestures now freeze

lost phoenix
#

welcome to VRC

storm stag
#

Well 3.0 is still wonky.
I can wait. Some of the 3.0 anomalies have been fixed and I don't see repeating animations which is good.

gusty sparrow
#

anyone getting echo bug ?

trail lintel
#

Shoutout to nemi, my fav world creator

rugged thorn
#

oh shit i love nemikaiser

kindred geyser
#

hivrcHandWave

valid iris
#

shoutout to kyoshi

kindred geyser
#

I'm new

storm stag
#

Post it sent1

trail lintel
#

JP village sakura nice map

storm stag
#

Trash map, just Deviant art model mashed together by some wanabe
Also unoptimized and garbage. He sure like to make multiple servers all orbiting himself and no one else. Oh and his umm sister.

keen jungle
#

I forgot what maps you made Nemi

valid iris
#

he made an arkknights map

cold verge
exotic sierra
#

Wtf vrchat keeps crasheing everyone

twilit sonnet
#

Fingers cross mine doesn't as I need sleep

molten gale
#

Yeah it seems like the new update causes some crashes

exotic sierra
#

Tfmjonny cant finish his video like that

vast tulip
#

vrcMimi hmm

agile dune
pseudo basalt
#

vrcTupper 🍝

#

spaghetti updatti

trail lintel
#

I never had any problems with vrchat

keen jungle
#

What big-free update?

valid iris
#

vrchat is perfect

keen jungle
#

We had that?

agile dune
#

im new to discord helo

keen jungle
#

Oh damn

rugged thorn
#

oh i no longer want to associate with them

keen jungle
#

Thanks ❤️

pseudo basalt
#

here we go again

tidal drift
#

Vrchat devs fix game pls

trail lintel
#

its already fixed

weak lantern
#

what?

#

it is still broken

muted lantern
#

Won't let people clone my avatar even if my cloning is on for some reason

vocal shard
#

was the avatar you're wearing set to private when it was uploaded?

muted lantern
#

That might be it but it's not my avatar so idk

loud loom
#

avatar 3.0 got scuffed from what im seeing as well

#

this server side thing has done more harm then good

violet dew
#

anyone know where the model for the among us mode came from

vast tulip
#

custom made

ocean arch
#

Hello! Where do I enquire about vrc careers?

thin laurel
#

Do most people hide "very poor" avatars? My avatar only just barely goes over the requirements for it and the only way I'm really able to fix it is by removing dynamic bones that I'm not keen to remove.

molten tartan
#

is MARO Animation World
for quest or pc

vocal shard
#

Stor, the contact page on the VRC website should probably be your contact
Passion, not necessarily, but many have the "limit dynamic bones" option enabled so chances are there are a lot of people who aren't seeing your dynamic bones anyway
I'd work on reducing the number so everyone can see them

ocean arch
#

Thank you

thin laurel
#

Thanks!

crude inlet
#

im having problems loading into worlds

modest quail
#

im having problems loading into worlds
@crude inlet me too

thin ember
#

Wtf is wrong with the audio?? People can't hear anything after being in a world for more than 10 minutes

orchid raptor
#

I've noticed since the latency update with visemes, that despite the MIC picking up sound or not (lighting up), the visemes seem to be reacting to every little sound in the room--including the sound coming from the headset itself; very noticeable on the Index with any audio above 50%, especially world audio. Not sure if it's local or serverside.

shut zodiac
sharp saddle
#

Has anyone else visited this "Test Pilots" world yet?

modern hill
#

TwT

turbid sand
#

Why are the young kids always the most racist?

#

Kid said he was 13 then started calling people the n word

idle elm
#

They are pushing boundaries to explore the world.

It’s just that we are in a world that has a crazy fancy communication medium for all of us to use now. (The internet)

#

And there’s a lot of places to do that exploring without real consequences now.

#

Or it was all just an ironic joke! HappyThonk

#

The world is overdosing on irony. It’s toxic in large doses.

gentle stone
#

in vr my body is stuck cross legged in like a meditating pose, and i cant move, how do i fix this?

nova sentinel
#

Get unstuck, ez fix

#

lol

idle elm
#

@gentle stone make sure the proximity sensor on your HMD is working correctly.

#

Barring that, I’m not sure. That’s the AFK pose. You could try turning it off in settings.

vocal shard
#

im not talking and my mouth is moving in the mirror HELP ppl are calling me a fake mute

#

hello guys, im starting to get a little bit scared.. evreytime join a world or the game its says this: "we are anonymus, we do not forgive. we do not forget. expect us."

#

i really dont know what to do..

native saddle
#

Hi everyone

sharp saddle
#

hello guys, im starting to get a little bit scared.. evreytime join a world or the game its says this: "we are anonymus, we do not forgive. we do not forget. expect us."
@vocal shard Is it every world or certain worlds?

vocal shard
#

@vocal shard Is it every world or certain worlds?
@sharp saddle every world.

#

you need to break half your head to understand the big brains from here

sharp saddle
#

Hmm... turn off Avatar sounds to rule out someone's avatar doing it (or maybe it's your own).

vocal shard
#

its justt my 2nd day playing vrchat and thats hapenning. idk how long it will stay.

cold talon
#

:weirdchamp:

sharp saddle
#

Er... hostile much?

vocal shard
#

what's with the aggressivity ?

#

he is just asking a question

#

@vocal shard did you try to switch to another avatar ? do the issue still happens ?

#

yep.

#

i sended a ticket to vrchat team.

#

erh.

#

what do you even want from me?

#

chill dude
If you think he should get kicked for any reason, just ping the mods

cold talon
vocal shard
#

fuck your action menu

#

its dumb

sharp saddle
#

Man, this server is weird after-hours.

vocal shard
#

cunts on some shit when they made this

#

The action menu makes perfect sense if you make a 3.0 avatar

#

If you're using a basic 2.0 avatar, yeah it's pointless

#

What?

sharp saddle
cold talon
#

aand gone

vocal shard
#

They were looking to get banned... New accounts that just joined and started insulting people

#

I dont get it

sharp saddle
#

Same reason people do it on everything else. sansgrin

#

See how long it takes to get banned.

cold talon
#

dont think poggurs was a new account tho, seen him in this server for a while

vocal shard
#

They only had a handful of posts tho

#

dude must have a really shitty day

sharp saddle
#

Starting to wonder if that was Papa Poggers or not. Thonk

lone scroll
#

Maybe open #open-beta-discussion up again and start rolling out updates to the open beta? Test before it goes live even if its small patches, maybe have a dedicated beta test team? I would apply for that 🤷‍♂️ if that means we are listened too and bugs are getting fixxed I bet a lot more people would help out test

vocal shard
#

Open beta has been constantly updated and running for the last few days. You can use it now and still play with the live build to help test the next patch

lone scroll
#

well you see, how the heck are we supposed to know that 🤷‍♂️ ?

I see no announcement about that and it feels very unappreciated, people wont do/help for free if there is not even a platform for it, closed channels AND you want us to test stuff? nah im fine

#

Would help if we could see what changes are getting pushed out to the open beta

#

so we can hop on and test stuff, I lack the info about when was the last update? how different is it to live? what was changed? maybe some in depth details about that? etc

#

Also maybe organize open beta tests? have people load into a public instance with every other beta testers

#

do a @open beta tester or sth to get people to log in and test newest changes at a specific time

vocal shard
#

KomiWhat I don't know... I just help keep the chat clean... That's on the vrchat team to do

broken plover
lone scroll
#

yeah no worries

#

didnt they remove the role, i used to have it i dont know where it went 🤷‍♂️

broken plover
#

Its still there. I have it

winter coyote
modern sand
#

Gave it back to you SataniaThumbsUp

lone scroll
#

thanks

winter coyote
#

Tupper even said it in the channel. I screenshotted Tupper's message

lone scroll
#

i think you guys are right with saying that people dont test enough

modern sand
#

We run plenty of internal tests, group tests with closed testers, engineers tests on their side, we something makes it out to live, it means we didn't run into it.

lone scroll
#

so ill try to test more with friends and get them into it too

winter coyote
#

It's public knowledge and anyone can go into open beta and test it and inform the VRChat team about any bugs that has came across

modern sand
#

Some bugs aren't found in open beta either, and when that happens it's easier to update the live client to disrupt as little as possible

atomic nimbus
#

Heey. Okay peeps, i cant get more than 50fps in game.
My specs are
Vive pro
Ryzen 9 3900x
32gb 3200mhz ram
Rtx 3080
Heeelp
Cpu is at 30%
Ram is at 50%
And gpu is at 50%

winter coyote
#

Do you have any background processes running?

modern sand
#

@atomic nimbus Use the dynamic bone limiter and hide very poor avatars

winter coyote
#

Also, it can be due to player's avatar's and world optimizations.
Use the dynamic bone limiter like Ruubick said and hide very poor and poor avatars

atomic nimbus
#

Thats when im alone in my home world...

winter coyote
#

Also, make sure you got the latest version of your gpu drivers

modern sand
#

What's your home world RuuuThunk

golden scaffold
#

Open Betas are generally always available for you to test out, however, you won't be able to play with friends. Lots of testing absolutely does happen. I totally understand the frustration though, but please don't undermine the work of the team that works really hard on QAing.

It's much more complicated than it might seem at an initial glance. If you do end up testing out the Open Beta though, it will always be appreciated. We're always open to feedback and very much appreciate the people that help us test.

odd lava
#

Cpu may be at 30% but one core is dying at 100

atomic nimbus
#

Aha that might be a problem

lone scroll
#

Spark i agree completely, but all the work is behind the scene so we dont know about that and so we start to hate you guys, paired with bad communication and yeah.. shitstorm incoming.

I think pushing the open beta a little more and organizing it better is a good thing to do

atomic nimbus
#

Cant remeber its name, but its said to be easy to run

vocal shard
#

Remember you can change the game graphics settings by holding shift at launch

winter coyote
#

^

#

A lot of people forget about that

modern sand
#

VRLow is nice

lone scroll
#

Whats the big difference between the graphic settings btw? Is there a list anywhere?

winter coyote
#

Hmm. I should try our VRLow. Ruubick how is it compared to High? If you tried both.

#

I always been on VRHigh. So, I never got the change to test out the lower end

#

Or, maybe it's just for desktop 🤔

vocal shard
#

I believe the graphics settings are broken down in some pinned messaged in the #development-advanced channel

lone scroll
#

ah youre right, thank you!

atomic nimbus
#

Hmm, how many cores does vrchat use?

modern sand
#

It's nice because msaa x4, but kinda sucks for worlds that use LODs

golden scaffold
#

Your feedback is completely fair, @lone scroll. We will continue to always post open-beta-announcements for you to see what we're working on. Communication can definitely be better so feel free to let us know what we can do to improve.

odd lava
#

I do not really have time to be online during week, but issues listed for avatars 3.0 are thought not to be noticed during BASIC smoke

modern sand
#

VRChat uses all the cores it possibly can

#

but some of the pieces rely on one more heavily

lone scroll
#

its from 2017 but the settings probably arent changed much since the post?

modern sand
#

Hence the "vrchat only uses one core" meme

vocal shard
#

like dyn bone

lone scroll
#

@golden scaffold nice! I will definitely get some friends in to help test stuff more often, time to stop being lazy and help out a little

winter coyote
#

Why get a 8 core processor. When all you need is a 1 core processor to run VRChat!

odd lava
#

ofc not one core only but most of things are on one core hence bottle neck is on single core perf

modern sand
#

Limiting dynamic bones is usually the first good step

winter coyote
#

^
It does a lot

atomic nimbus
#

Where do I limit dyn bones?

golden scaffold
#

Sounds great! Feel free to use the #open-beta-discussion channel and keep us updated on anything you find that might need to be looked at. You might not get a response, but your message or feedback won't be overlooked.

winter coyote
#

Open your settings in vrchat. settings, and it should be under advance settings, and then it should say dync bones

lone scroll
#

but its closed vrcSad

#

Maybe just open the channel ONLY for people with the role, once the general open beta stops?

winter coyote
#

@atomic nimbus Open your menu, Safety, Performance options, then click dynamic bone

#

Then check mark the Limit Dynamic Bone Usage

atomic nimbus
#

Oki thanks

winter coyote
#

I forgot it was under safety and not under settings. My bad. Settings/advance settings is how you can clear cache.

golden scaffold
#

Sorry about the confusion there. Definitely recommend using the Canny

#

Often times you'll probably see things that are already being reported

lone scroll
#

ah i see, alright thanks!

winter coyote
#

And remember. Reject Humanity! Embrace Virtual Reality

feral obsidian
#

intentional crasher or unintentional heavy duty avatar?

prisma sequoia
#

who have goose avatar??

feral obsidian
#

THE Goose?

vocal shard
#

I have all the geese

pure fulcrum
#

I need help😢

left basin
#

hi guys ive just woke up

vocal shard
#

anyone else believe that content creation being locked behind trust is total bullshit?

feral obsidian
#

no

vocal shard
#

i don't want to actually go into public and invite 1000 purples; I want to create content.

feral obsidian
#

I'd like to avoid

#

crasher spam

#

see, you may refer to Agile 2013

vocal shard
#

literally who

broken plover
#

vrchat is a social game after all...

feral obsidian
#

unmoderated creativity

vocal shard
#

I understand, Nico.

feral obsidian
#

tough luck, we'll see you in two years

#

or ask someone to cater your shit

vocal shard
#

I mean.

#

I exaggerated. I'm not a dummy.

feral obsidian
#

You make em, someone else uploads until you can do so yourself

#

go write up a contract or something

#

Be strategically creative also

#

befriend someone with an old account

#

I caught myself two avatar creators

#

though the friend system broke and friend request didn't actually request

vocal shard
#

I'm making problems?

#

Who?

#

I'm getting an aura of density and vagueness from these posts.

feral obsidian
#

Do you have an avatar ready for upload?

vocal shard
#

YES. i wasted $24 if i don't blue up soon.

winter coyote
#

Ummm. You can create content at any rank level. Uploading is different. You must be at least a User to upload.
And you can get that fairly easily by just playing and making friends

feral obsidian
#

Go find another creator that can cater your content so you can field test it

#

there are plenty

#

Hang around fandom worlds

vocal shard
#

I'll be honest, the actual content creation part was to make myself look good. The reality is I just really want this gumroad POS as a private item sooner than later.

feral obsidian
#

Welcome to Femboy Hooters, caught two NSFW avatars in first contact

vocal shard
#

I mean

feral obsidian
#

Ask someone to cater it in their world

#

until you can cater your own

#

That's your only option if you still insist

#

I just got upgraded to New User, cool

winter coyote
#

And once you get user. Uploading content can help increase your rank faster

vocal shard
#

I don't care about anything past blue, honestly.

winter coyote
#

Uhhhhhh

#

LOL

feral obsidian
#

social credit for VRChat

#

CCP? Get ready for VRC

#

It's closer to PRC

winter coyote
#

PRC? What

feral obsidian
#

People's Republic of China

vocal shard
#

@green mulch do you remember how many you had?

#

i've been at this for 12 hours, active participation instead of idling mind you, and have stocked a decent amount of favorites in that time.

winter coyote
#

It will come in time.

#

I known people who got User in a week

vocal shard
#

You expect me to be as stupid as to directly approach a staff member grovelling??

#

I understand that at least partially it's a matter of patience.

#

But this isn't a special case.

#

12 hours and 15-20 friends is pretty typical for a visitor, I'd bet.

modern hill
#

twt

vocal shard
#

Buying an avatar is a very Me problem.

feral obsidian
#

I'm on 3 friends

#

New User

modern hill
#

uvu

#

I'm keeping my stats a secret lmao

#

I mean not really

#

U don't want pll to just upload to much crap storage ain't cheap u know

#

Because it means that uses can't just create a new account if they get banned for explicit content

#

True but there is a reason for it lol

#

If there wasn't it wouldn't be like this

#

I don't know the specific reason but it's kinda obvious

#

When u just decide to think

broken plover
#

The main reason the rank barrier is there is because people kept uploading avatars and worlds against the rules and when they got banned they just made a new account and uploaded it again

modern hill
#

C i was right

#

Well true but u don't lvl up just like that it's not like u can friend all of ur friends in matter for minutes

#

It requires a lil work

#

And to make world's for a game u know nothing about is kinda dumb lol

#

Lost?

#

Wdum

#

Just play the game lol

vocal shard
#

@modern hill I talked about creating content but the rather embarrassing truth is that I'm just salty I can't use this avatar I bought right away.

modern hill
#

It ain't that hard chef

#

Ahh i c

vocal shard
#

It's hard to make efficient. I kinda wanted this thing a few hours ago.

broken plover
#

"yes, and for banned people it's not really a problem, since they have friends they can rejoin on their new accounts"
what does joining friends have to do with uploading avatars against the tos? 🤔

modern hill
#

Just play like a few hours today and a few hours tomorrow and find some kewl pll and u probably new user

#

Or u could ask someone else to upload it to their account and just put it as public and u can clone it and then turn off cloning as a kinda private public lol

#

Don't complain did u pay for this game?

vocal shard
#

No.

modern hill
#

Ur basically getting free cloud storage i don't even wanna think about what the costs r

#

It might be better for new users yes like 1% of them, but the server costs will probably skyrock

#

The rules r there for a reason lol

vocal shard
#

I understand credit where it's due but you sound like you're simping for vrci right now.

winter coyote
#

In the beginning of VRChat there was no rank system to upload models.
I personally think it's a good idea

#

If you're willing to put the time and effort on playing the game. Then you should be able to upload.
I seen so many bad and unoptimized models made before the rank system so many terrible worlds along with them

modern hill
#

I wasn't a fan at start because everyone hated on the ones lower than themselves

#

But i guess i see the reason

winter coyote
#

I personally never hated anyone below my rank

#

I always added cool guest users, new users, etc

modern hill
#

Same

winter coyote
#

And I'm a trusted with over 3k hrs and with a lot of friends

modern hill
#

But at start omg pll wore extremely toxic

winter coyote
#

click click click click

modern hill
#

I'm trusted aswell

#

Lol

winter coyote
#

Show me da wae

vocal shard
#

yo

modern hill
#

uvu

winter coyote
#

uwu

#

I have ascended as a knuckles

modern hill
#

I never liked the knuckles lmao "one of us"x100

golden scaffold
#

This isn't like some war against creators or something. Everyone loves supporting the creators in every way possible which is why new features are released to help support that. Marsy is generally right about their points. At the end of the day, VRChat is free. Getting access to upload content is quite easy and doesn't require much effort besides getting on and socializing.

winter coyote
#

^
Within a week you'll be a user if you put the time and effort into it

#

Just like in every game. The more time you put in the better you get.

#

Wanna hear my first impression of the game?

golden scaffold
#

VRChat would not be fun if every single person that made an account had access to upload immediately. Plenty of people could make avatars for the wrong reasons and completely ruin new player experiences.

winter coyote
#

I got into gaia night and talked to some guy who was timon

modern hill
#

It's the start of every game ur always lvl 1

winter coyote
#

^

#

If someone is being toxic. You can block them
It's a feature that's in the game

#

Don't let one bad apple ruin the patch

#

Who said anything about banning

#

If you FEEL that you are being threatened or personally attacked. Block the person who is doing it

#

I blocked so many people in vrchat. And I rarely block anyone

golden scaffold
#

I totally understand. You have an avatar, I'm sure it's great and you want to be able to use it. VRChat isn't really trying to prevent you from doing so.

winter coyote
#

You don't just get randomly banned

modern hill
winter coyote
modern hill
#

Probably broke the one with talking about cheats

#

Or clients

#

Or how to rip etc

#

....

vocal shard
#

sounds a lil biased to me, this server is rlly laidback

modern hill
#

It is

vocal shard
#

maybe they did something genuinely wrong

winter coyote
#

Legit, this server is so laid back

modern hill
#

About?

#

It is

winter coyote
#

And the VRChat team are really chill.

golden scaffold
#

If you believe they were banned unfairly, Chaos, please have them contact moderation@vrchat.com and we'll investigate it.

modern hill
#

Don't decide for them

#

If i was banned by a mistake and i lived in vrc ofc I'd want it back

winter coyote
#

^

vocal shard
#

u gotta do something really fucked to get banned here tbh

modern hill
#

Literally just play the game

winter coyote
#

^

#

Just play. It's not hard

#

It took me about a year to find myself a good model

modern hill
#

What's the point of making something for a game ur not gonna spend time in

vocal shard
#

just be a cat

winter coyote
#

And look at you.
Found yourself a good model within a week and you can upload it within a week as well

#

Unlike you, I had to wait about a year for a good model.
While all you have to do is play for a week to get User to upload it

#

Made* It's 6am got no sleep

#

And I'm even making spelling mistakes

modern hill
#

I never got happy with any avatar i made so at this point I'm just using public ones as i will be maybe happy for a week of i make one and making world's is more my thing anyways way more fun

winter coyote
#

Sorry, if I said the wrong word.

#

Yeah, World making is nice

modern hill
#

Yesh

winter coyote
#

What worlds have you made?

modern hill
#

A world called world for luna as the one I made it for didn't decide a name lmao but ye they didn't want me to work more on it so it's forever gonna stay in it's state, also i need an idea before i make something and atm i don't have one

winter coyote
#

Nature is always good

modern hill
#

Dats against the TOS

winter coyote
#

^

#

That's one way to get ban.

modern hill
#

Tru

#

And anyways why would u play a social game to not socialize

winter coyote
#

Correct

modern hill
#

Didn't loose it lmao

#

Just gotta commit to play a few hours

winter coyote
#

I mean, in the beginning I couldn't get into it when I heard about it and tried it out. Then I kept grinding out on BDO and watched vrchat videos and gave it another shot and boom. Fell in love with it

#

And now it's my favorite game and most played. And I spent so much on VR I don't regret it

#

But, you can see and hear a guest user

#

Who cares about the ones who can't.
Talk to the ones you can talk to

#

I know mutes in the game who can't talk or refuse to talk.
And I love to talk to them. I find talking to mutes more enjoyable then talking to people with voices

modern hill
#

I kinda played at the start after a few months after i got my vr i tried it i think it was around December 2017 then i just stopped played as i didn't really have anything keeping me there, then a few months later I set up my vr again and first thing I meet in the pug was this awesome dude who invited me into his smol group of 7 pll and we r still hanging out, and i kinda felt a need to log on

winter coyote
#

Yeah Marsy. I'm the same. Im still with them. After 100hrs on desktop bought me a vr

modern hill
#

I never played desktop kek

winter coyote
#

xd

modern hill
#

So like a yr ago i tried desktop and dats like so different

#

But u still get the cozy feeling

#

Maybe even more so than vr ngl desktop is nice

feral obsidian
#

I want to move my arms around

modern hill
#

Headpats r so good though

#

Like literally my reason to log on before i found my friend's group literally

#

Lmao

#

Ohh that person Left

feral obsidian
#

Huh, the German furry convention server updated and now I know why it takes so much space

vocal shard
#

Anyone else has the bug where adio just decides to not work like the voice adio from other players just stops suddenly

static flax
#

The devs are aware and have been working on it.

coral mulch
#

quick question has anybody got the error file not found or prehab 3d unity doesn't exists when making an avatar i don't know what to do i made an avatar but i cant upload it because of this

queen bough
#

i just got vr like yesterday where do u guys find good avatars and is there a way to not make myself teleport and then have to wait for the character to run before i release and move there?

coral mulch
#

go to settings then turn off holoport

queen bough
#

OHHHH okay thanks

coral mulch
#

np

#

are you quest or pc

queen bough
#

quest

coral mulch
#

alright cool so worlds like peaches avatar world and days avatars are pretty good

queen bough
#

thank youuuuuu i’ll check those out

marble fog
#

Ayy so much broken from the last update. I can’t even accept friend requests

modern hill
#

Oofie try the website

wary orbit
#

My oculus rift s wont download vrchat it says to contact support

#

Hek

modern hill
#

Try using the steam version

wary orbit
#

Tthe steam version works fine

mighty nest
#

3070 or 3080 for vrc?

odd blaze
#

Going 3080 myself mostly cause of my screen resolution and g2 'soon'

mighty nest
#

4k? 3070 seems good for 1440p. No idea how that translate to vr performance tho

odd blaze
#

my screen is 3440x1440 , g2 is 2160x2160 pr eye

#

im still using a older 1080 so its about time

tidal quiver
#

Why are you gonna buy g2?

mighty nest
#

Ah that seems more for 3080 territory lol, or even the top tier amd card.

vocal shard
#

Imma wait until 2030 lol

mighty nest
#

I've been running a 980ti that just died so I'm itching for a new gpu :c

vocal shard
#

People who say the GTX 1080 is bad need to get their head out of their butts

odd blaze
#

For 1080p ~ its okey , it does not like higher resolutions

#

2560x1440 is the highest i can go without <60fps

vocal shard
#

Okay? Bro

#

That card can raytrace

cold talon
#

yeah gonna wait for the 3100 series

vocal shard
#

Amd better

odd blaze
#

from their own benchmarks test? wouldnt trust it much wait for reviews

mighty nest
#

tbh most people run 1080p so it would work for most if they already have it. But I wouldn't suggest to buy it now unless its c h e a p

vocal shard
#

Who needs more then 4k

odd blaze
#

Try a vr in high res you wont go back to low 🤷‍♂️

mighty nest
#

does vrc even support ray tracing lol

vocal shard
#

No

odd blaze
#

There's more to the card then just that feature

vocal shard
#

Don't need raytracing it's just like the wii

cold talon
#

can also use the DLSS to upscale from a lower res, its not just going from 4k to 8k

vocal shard
#

Who needs 8k

odd blaze
#

We should go back to dos6.11 , who need progress

vocal shard
#

Also can you use a Pentium. Pc with the 3080

cold talon
#

rendering at 1280x720 and upscaling to 4k is god tho

hollow sluice
#

even if the AMD gpus are really better, the stuff nvidia is doing with their tensor cores is really impressive

vocal shard
#

I'm just saying the gpu is going to be too powerful for people to handle

hollow sluice
#
  • I use ray tracing almost on the daily so its pretty important for it to be good and well supported
cold talon
#

nah not really

#

if you use it for any sort of work you are gonna be maxing it out 🤷‍♂️

hollow sluice
#

I mean thats why the 3090 is so appealing.

vocal shard
#

Bruh some people get more fps in vr chat that are using get 980 cards then people who use rtx 2080

hollow sluice
#

considering you can easily use over 16gb of VRam in certain processes the 24 is very desirable for the price

#

its almost like their headset/ cpu/ mirror size and more make a difference lol

mighty nest
#

can't wait for when my gpu has more ram than the rest of the computer

hollow sluice
#

that wont ever happen

cold talon
#

you getting a 3100 nil?

vocal shard
#

Gpus are getting too a head then cpus

mighty nest
#

3100? No lol. js RAM and vRAM going up and up. I remember thinking 6GB was a lot of vRAM >_>

vocal shard
#

Same

mighty nest
#

Although upgrading my RAM might be a good idea now since its cheap

hollow sluice
#

mfw I have 6gb of Vram

cold talon
#

damn, how epic would it be if GPUs would have upgradable ram slots, kinda like on the motherboard but on steroids

hollow sluice
#

I doubt that would take off

#

technically making the ram a slot instead of soldered on can hinder its performance

#

and it would be annoying to buy a 400€ gpu and than have to buy Vram on top of that

cold talon
#

it was a thing before, but i think manufacturing cost is what killed it

odd blaze
#

Intel still doing it , but its expensive, the NUC things

hollow sluice
#

nuc has replaceable Vram?!

cold talon
#

oo, interesting

odd blaze
#

only the cpu/motherboard, provide your own gpu

#

NUC Compute Elements

fossil root
#

@vocal shard at my old job, we had a runninx gag that every old piece of tech without a clear model number was an x2030. when NVIDIA announced the 20 series cards we were so fuckin hyped that the real 2030 might happen. And then 16 series reared it's back end into our dreams...

modern hill
#

Lol

vocal shard
#

Hmmm? I'm broke

tender smelt
#

Do you use VRChat for living or gaming?

modern hill
#

Living

#

uvu

vocal shard
#

Gaming? I don't game lol

modern hill
#

Lmao

broken plover
#

gamer 😎

vocal shard
#

Who's that guy on the vrc dis Ord who always shows his cpu temp

prisma sequoia
#

who have GOOSE avatar pls :(

ornate moon
#

Yes

#

I need one

grim breach
#

hey i just got my rtx3070

vocal shard
#

rtx 3070 ? pfft
imagine not having a 3080

grim breach
#

3080 too overkill for my needs

vocal shard
#

overkill or nothing

grim breach
#

i game at 1080p why would i need anything above the 3070?

scenic hedge
#

Eyo watch this