vrchat-general-2

[fading flower]

bro ping, epic

[hollow sluice]

its honestly better to just set it up again instead of fucking with the shit that people configured before you

[fading flower]

tf did i walk into

[sour grove]

notch == herobrine obviously. he's a halcker just like anon

[vocal shard]

I couldn't log on, then I saw that Tupper was typing in #announcements so then, welp, I know what this is gonna be about.

[umbral reef]

No one is allowed to set up stuff at my job without me checking stuff after them
Most of the time its the ISP or some other dumb reason

[abstract elk]

guys

notch is harobrown confirmed

[hasty seal]

bruh sound effect #2 10 hour version

[umbral reef]

The original creator of minecraft is Hatsune Miku
Il fight anyone saying im wrong 😤

[cyan badge]

am i the only one having issues with connecting

[umbral reef]

Dunno, should try reading #announcements

[vocal shard]

look in announcements

[abstract elk]

bro hatsuni mikie confirmed

[hasty seal]

21

[frigid tulip]

i thought the creator mine craft is elon musk

[languid beacon]

Only you are having issues with VRChat. It’s working perfectly for everyone else that isn’t you. It’s not your fault, it’s just a bug, that only effects you. They’re working on it.

[hollow ingot]

Who's watching VRCBot count?

[languid beacon]

It’s funny the user count is 50% higher than when I first joined even during server failure

[vocal shard]

is vrchat down?

[umbral reef]

@frigid tulip Who's that?
Isnt that the guy who claims to run spaceX and Telsa? Because thats also Hatsune Miku

[vocal shard]

I cant log in

[smoky cedar]

let's wait for awhile

[umbral reef]

Nah its only you as has been confirmed in #announcements

[smoky cedar]

hope it's fast to backup

[umbral reef]

They made an special announcement stating its only you having this problem.

They made an special announcement stating its only you having this problem.

[delicate pelican]

and we know when is go finish or no?

[hollow ingot]

No ETA

[umbral reef]

Does it say anything in #announcements ?

[hasty seal]

pp big moment

[umbral reef]

If not, no we dont
If there is we know it and you can find it there

[delicate pelican]

oof 😓

[abstract elk]

miku runs tesla and dope x

[languid beacon]

Vrchat made me learn how to play reversei/go after seeing it for years but never playing it I swear i thought it was more complicated

[twin fractal]

judging by how active this server is I'm guessing something happened to VRChat

[desert stratus]

mhm

[umbral reef]

Jup, servers are being tsundere

[desert stratus]

connection issues apparently, player count dropped from 14k to 9k

[delicate pelican]

maybe is the fbi have passe here XD

[vocal shard]

I'm guessing something happened to VRChat
looks at the player count suddenly dropping from 14.5K to below 10K
yep, /something/ happened.

[twin fractal]

holy it's fusl

[languid beacon]

VRChat is currently working correctly for all players except you.

I saw that

[vocal shard]

😂

[hasty seal]

commence purple thanos user cleansing

[twin fractal]

haven't seen you since the last time

[vocal shard]

come join me watch everything die https://dash.silent-ghost.eu/d/vrchat/vrchat-status 👀

[stone bough]

Out of curiosity, will we ever get extra spaces to save avatars? :x I love too many lool but there's only so much room

[vocal shard]

there are plenty of canny's for that

[stone bough]

Cannys?

[vocal shard]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/add-more-avatars-to-favorites

[stone bough]

Ohhh alright alright. Thanks

[cold jay]

Is anyone else having a problem with starting VRChat? I have re downloaded it, and it loads past the Login screen and is stuck in the void area?

[lilac steppe]

check announcements

[barren whale]

i'm rolling my brains out in Drinking Night # 20415 if anyone wants to hang out

[oblique igloo]

monka

[cold talon]

[frozen elk]

oh hi boy im just searching italian vr gamers so if there is some italians pls send me friend request on steam

[vocal shard]

im having issues

opening it

[cold talon]

we all have issues

[vocal shard]

#announcements

[gilded trellis]

@vocal shard with VRchat? sounds like many peoples here #announcements

only one thing we can do it's... waiting

[vocal shard]

or complain about it and ping the vrchat team from time to time

[granite crater]

^

[vocal shard]

vrchat its working?

Gonna edit some avatars in the meantime

[gilded trellis]

explo not for everyone #announcements

[vocal shard]

ok thank you

[obtuse bay]

everyone cant connect?

[cold talon]

yes, cannot connect with people 😔

[delicate pelican]

the dev try save vrchat bcs he have the coronavirus

[vocal shard]

bruh

what do the vrchat graphics options actually do?

i know you can change then but... is there anything thats noticeable?

[hollow sluice]

I think they change AO but I dont notice anything

[mossy totem]

hey yall cant connect too?

[vocal shard]

@mossy totem #announcements

[languid beacon]

Lower the graphics. And no, because people rarely make LOD for their worlds but you’ll get higher frame-rate and more pop-in for worlds that did set up LOD

[slim temple]

#announcements

[mossy totem]

why ping bruh

[vocal shard]

ahhh, so its something that map creators have to do, adeon?

[slim temple]

because this is a fast server

[hollow sluice]

all I know is that if I am on vr high my fps drops to 4 when I turn on a mirror while on vr low I have 90 fps. While I dont notice any difference

[cunning anchor]

It's unity, there should be ways to optimize the worlds anyway.

[cold talon]

huh, always thought that lod in vrc was really funky to work with

[languid beacon]

Ultimately they are in charge of what to do with the graphics settings however VRChat does do a bit with the settings but not much.

[hollow sluice]

there are

[mossy totem]

not you lhun

[vocal shard]

@mossy totem 🏓

[mossy totem]

baka

[vocal shard]

😔

[languid beacon]

I see huge framerate boosts from VRLow, especially in mirrors, and I haven’t seen a single thing lower quality except Japan Shrine world now has horrible pop-in. Worth for me

[mossy totem]

adeon

what headset and what are your specs.

[vocal shard]

monkaS

[smoky cedar]

btw i dont like Japan shrine's update

[languid beacon]

CV1 at first but now Quest Link, GTX 970 at first but now 2070

[smoky cedar]

old is pretty cool

[mossy totem]

hmm.

[vocal shard]

venclaire, where did i heard that name before
very familiar

[mossy totem]

prob you got asked before but have you updated steamvr and quest app?

[vocal shard]

idk but we have a mutual friend so we've probs seen eachother once

[mossy totem]

to the latest versions. if no update.. and if you have multiple screens disable them and keep one on. lower the steamvr resolution to 100% instead of 125%

[languid beacon]

I don’t use steam

[vocal shard]

oculus gamERRR

[mossy totem]

hmm

[vocal shard]

do the people you hang around have like 28 meshes adeon

[languid beacon]

I’m fine I use vrlow and nothing looks bad

I have very poor blocked by default /shrug

[mossy totem]

i had that problem but after some time it faded away

why wont you use your cv1?

[languid beacon]

I sold it

[mossy totem]

oh...

[languid beacon]

Got a Quest with Link I enjoy the resolution bump and wireless option

[mossy totem]

i see

[vocal shard]

think the quest looks better than the rift cv1?

i know those lens upgrades are 👀

[languid beacon]

Quest has same resolution as vive pro

[mossy totem]

yep.. it does
try reinstalling the game and clearing all cache

1440 x 1440 per eye?

[vocal shard]

1440x1600

[broken plover]

wmr has 1440 x 1440

[mossy totem]

why do they have slow mode this is dumb

[broken plover]

and the samsung odyssey has same as vive pro

[mossy totem]

yea i have a wmr. im looking into the new gen3 wmr

[vocal shard]

hp reverb :nut:

[mossy totem]

the HP Reverb G2 that they teased us with.

[broken plover]

my next headset is gonna be any headset that uses lighthouse tracking. I'm sick of wmr inside out tracking

[mossy totem]

ill get full body by that time so ill be already equipped with the lighthouses needed for g2

if corona ends soon......
and i think wmr inside out is fine you just get used to it

[vocal shard]

You sure g2 uses external tracking?

[mossy totem]

i love the controllers just cause theyre the only with lots of buttons and binds

[potent sail]

think the quest looks better than the rift cv1?
@vocal shard It really depend your usage, it will have way more less SDR dans cv1, but most of native quest game do not run at native resolution. As using the quest as pc device, it depend how you use it too. You'll still get compression artefact (but it's very barelly noticeable on link at least), and it depend if you use app to play wireless on pc. I managed to get good result on a custom ALVR build that support sharpening filter, still have little compression but it's damn sharp without increasing resolution

[vocal shard]

theres a strong chance the new reverb will use lighthouse tracking, but not enough to bet on it tbh

theres photos looking like it has the regular 2 cameras on the front

it looks really close to a oculus cv1 tbh

[mossy totem]

i mean its literally steamvr hp and microsoft on one headset... also dont forget the No compromises at the end of the tease

[vocal shard]

no compromises 👀

steamvr doesnt mean external tracking

[broken plover]

my wmr headset often doesnt find my room and I also have to turn on the lights to play so lighthouse is better. It will always find my playspace because the basestations are fixed at one position and they also dont need light because they shoot lasers

[mossy totem]

but it highly is possible to have it

[vocal shard]

well one thing is for sure, the hp reverb has the valve ear phones and i don't know why else hp would be teaming up with them other than lighthouse tracking

doesn't look like it has interchangeable faceplates for external tracking so highly doubt it

[broken plover]

lighthouse tracking is also called steamvr tracking

[mossy totem]

so far no steamvr officially compatible headset had no external tracking

vive has lighthouses index too. oculus are pretty much its own platform

[languid beacon]

Ultimately I’m going to get an index and knuckles I already have vive base stations and 3 body trackers from my cv1 hybrid setup; then I’ll keep the quest to sweat in for beat saber

[vocal shard]

quest garbo for beatsaber

[languid beacon]

Quest is wonderful in beat saber I play the native app

[vocal shard]

only game i wouldnt play on it, tracking is so abysmal

[mossy totem]

im looking for a hp g2 3 2.0 vive trackers 2 2.0 lighthouses and possibly knuckles..

[blissful grail]

You can always buy one of the better face pads that are easier to clean for beatsaber

[vocal shard]

WMR headsets always advertised steamvr capability

is quest tracking that much worse than rift s?

they're almost the same

[mossy totem]

wmr has their own driver.

[vocal shard]

it is still a wmr headset

[languid beacon]

Quest and Rift S tracking are the same technology and same exact controllers (same Product number)

[desert stratus]

quest beat saber is pretty good

[vocal shard]

theyre about the same, playing literly anything past default songs is nearly impossible on the quest, tried playing galaxy burst on my friends and the controllers just yeeted off into space

[mossy totem]

??? what do you mean

[vocal shard]

logan and zyrix do just fine with the rift s but again, idk how rift s and quest tracking compare to that detail

The G2 is still titled a WMR headset

[languid beacon]

Quest’s version beat saber is flawless tbh no issues. Playing Pc version over Link is no good though

[mossy totem]

well kinda....

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 8976 users in VRChat currently

[mossy totem]

its more of a stand alone headset that uses the mr portal app.

[vocal shard]

they loose tracking when you flick them at a high rate of speed, steam vr tracking is the only way to play beatsaber with 0 issues imo

just dont swing that hard smh

[mossy totem]

WHAT

[vocal shard]

lmfao

[mossy totem]

venc you ever played expert+

[vocal shard]

yes i have. you swing smooth not hard fenn

[languid beacon]

The touch 2 controllers read at 30 hz but the quest can read 60. New controllers that blink at 60 hz are rumored

[vocal shard]

or anything besides deafult songs

[desert stratus]

this. swinging smooth wins games

[mossy totem]

flicking Is the only way to play those games

[vocal shard]

time for vrchat to get their own photon servers or at least backhaul?

[desert stratus]

sadly my poor pc is so shit that i cant track more difficult songs so i barely play beat saber nowadays

i was taken aback by how the quest version just. doesnt skip frames. or shit all over my controllers

[sterile skiff]

i'm using a Lenovo Explorer (WMR) with Vive Trackers 2.0 and a base station 2.0, it works really good, i've had no problem since february

[desert stratus]

i might have to buy either a quest or a rift s soon since my cv1 cable / left panel is dying

[mossy totem]

you cant play expert+++ without need to swing

[desert stratus]

you can swing but you dont need to jerk your hands around

[vocal shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ICAFhxbw5Q play this on a quest

theres a difference between swinging hard and smoothly though, im just saying you gotta swing smooth af for basically... everything

[languid beacon]

I will say do you are the type to do above expert plus yeah you probably shouldn’t be using 30hz controllers

[sterile skiff]

do you know the refresh rate of WMR tracking?

[languid beacon]

Rift S won’t be any good in that case either

[vocal shard]

60hz controllers coming for rift s and quest 👀

lets be honest, everything besides lighthouse tracking is inferior and thats the end of it

[mossy totem]

i think its either 30 or 50 mal

[sterile skiff]

yep i've heard about that

[vocal shard]

yeah thats the truth pickel 😔

[broken plover]

I read somewhere wmr tracking has a refreshrate of 1500Hz or something?

[languid beacon]

Nah man I feel quest’s tracking is the future . Screw external sensors tbh

[sterile skiff]

wut

[mossy totem]

wtf?

[sterile skiff]

is this even possible?

[desert stratus]

yeah

[languid beacon]

I love having no external sensors

[vocal shard]

it is definitely the future for non-enthusiasts, oculus insight has proved it can be more than serviceable

@languid beacon youve clearly never tried anything besides the quest, please try and index or any vive, then reform your opinion

[languid beacon]

I have lighthouse tracking lmao

[vocal shard]

pickel he literally had a cv1 lol

[broken plover]

I dont like inside out. The deadzone of the tracking is really annoying

[desert stratus]

if they up the refresh rate and iron out occlusion, though im personally more interested in the future being kinect-like tracking

[sterile skiff]

i like having no external sensors but god the lighthouses 2.0 are so good

and they work at 100 Hz

[desert stratus]

what oculus was showing off like...two connects ago? jesus fuck. no it was just one. but yeah, two of those situated like lighthouses

[vocal shard]

until oculus tried out insight i thought camera inside-out was gonna forever stay trash, especially after the disaster of the vive cosmos

[pastel imp]

I still can't get into vr chat.. le sigh

[vocal shard]

but after oculus insight i kinda went 👀 👀

[desert stratus]

yeah thats one major plus of lh 2.0 0 0 i want 100hz tracking

to be fair i think cosmos is worse than WMR tracking lol

[vocal shard]

oh god dont even get me started on pavlov on inside out tracking, its painful

it is LOL

[languid beacon]

I have consolation, lighthouse, and insight tracking. Constellation was most reliable. Insight was most convenient. Lighthouse had no major strong points. Just lots of controllers flying off into space

[vocal shard]

thats why they made the cosmos elite

whats constellation?

[pastel imp]

Any update any news on whats going on with vr chat? And will it be fixed soon?

[desert stratus]

og oculus sensors

[mossy totem]

oculus is kewl but i prefer something that is cheap but powerful at the same time

[broken plover]

I had more trouble playing boneworks than I had playing pavlov with my wmr headset

[vocal shard]

cv1 tracking was constellation

[mossy totem]

xlawz nope.. were all here cause of it

[vocal shard]

ahhh yeah outside-in tracking is kinda wacky. i definitely prefer how the lighthouses do it

[desert stratus]

aka shitty drivers, because they keep hogging up USB bandwidth

maybe its just my mobo but i cant have more than two sensors plugged in at once, so i just have two oculus sensors in "lighthouse configuration" for the worst kind of roomscale setup

[languid beacon]

I had to rma my base stations to HTC twice so forgive me if I am bias against lighthouse

[vocal shard]

i hated my occulus even with 4 sernsors, 5 usb ports was a pain in the ass to manage and i constantly had driver issues

that just reminded me of people who'd have like 6+ oculus sensors then complain about how they still lost tracking all the time like... bro maybe its cause u have 18 sensors

i went to vive pro with wireless and index controllers and im never going back lol

[languid beacon]

My 3 sensor constellation was perfect

2 sensor vive base station was a mess

[vocal shard]

mirrors in every corner of the room, 6 sensors
"why the FUCK am i losing tracking"

[desert stratus]

@languid beacon opposite for me! what motherboard (or i guess CPU) were you running?

[broken plover]

vive pro with wireless adapter and index controller together with 3 vive trackers (for fbt) is the absolute best setup you can have for vrchat lol

[languid beacon]

I don’t think cpu was the issue I just lost tracking like crazy

[vocal shard]

htc cosmos elite got me feeling funky 😔

it really is the dream setup

[languid beacon]

Has I had to keep rma’ing them

[mossy totem]

anyone used kinect for fullbody?

[broken plover]

yes

[vocal shard]

ya its ass

[desert stratus]

well i havent owned lighthouses but i do use sensors and so far, well, i guess i really do have to blame my PC more

[vocal shard]

i have. its funny

[wheat jackal]

Sorry to just butt in but has anyone figured out the login issue? I know they posted it in announcements but I was just wondering I use a quest

[languid beacon]

I did oculus with vive full body it was good

[mossy totem]

i also do and it works well but now my room is small so its fucked

[broken plover]

kinect is good enough when it works. But thats the problem. It doesnt work sometimes and then its worse than no fbt

[vocal shard]

i did too adeoon, i couldnt stand it because any time the controllers near the pucks they would yeet off

[desert stratus]

@mossy totem yeah, it's...it's okay lol. the way i think about kinect FBT is usually when you buy cheap hardware its worth much less than it actually is. a $300 dollar laptop, to me, is as good as $50 in a yardsale covered in dust

[clear egret]

I currently have full body for the Vive and really want to save up for the Index.

[vocal shard]

i did kinect full body and it made me go, "yeah i definitely can't wait to get trackers to lay on the floor"
got my vive controllers turned into trackers and now i lay down in the floor while playing vrchat. best investment ever

[granite crater]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 9023 users in VRChat currently

[desert stratus]

but all of the kinects...are worth exactly what they are. which is impressive. sure, you pay $20 for an xbox 360 kinect to get $20 full body tracking in vr, but it's $20 full body tracking

[mossy totem]

wait some people got on wtf

[desert stratus]

it's a gateway drug and nice to pull out every now and then when you trust your PC to not shit itself

[clear egret]

Thats likely whoever was online prior to the issue @mossy totem

[vocal shard]

yeah but I'm like not paying $300 for hockey pucks

oh yeah kinect FUCKS your framerate so hard

[desert stratus]

xbox one kinect is def much better, and the azure is basically kinect vive trackers

[vocal shard]

ya, i used kinect for a few months and tolerated it but its a good way to see if you want to invest in real full body

[sterile skiff]

yeah i've tried the kinect too, stopped using it the next day

[mossy totem]

@clear egret nah dude there was like 8k now its at 9k

[vocal shard]

kinect doesn't mess with your framerate as long if you have a good cpu

[desert stratus]

that too @vocal shard

[clear egret]

Idk then, maybe its a regional issue?

[vocal shard]

on an r5 2600 it was meh

5437 dynamic bone collision checks gang says hi 😎

[desert stratus]

my PC is collapsing in on itself so sadly i cant use my kinect as much anymore

[mossy totem]

is a i7 -9700k ocd to 5.2 good enough.. i think yes lol

[vocal shard]

intel lmao

ayyyyy, 400+ dynamic bones, who needs distribution amirite

[desert stratus]

9700k aint bad for VR tho >u>

[mossy totem]

fuck your hair

[vocal shard]

97 materials, 27 skinned meshes, 5437 collision checks
"why is my game lagging so bad this game is so fucking unoptimized stupid incompetent devs!!"

[desert stratus]

id be glad to have one of those, im sittign on an i5-6400

[mossy totem]

and you in particular for having that much

[desert stratus]

mhm. story nowadays is more like public avatars being uploaded with 20+ materials, more than enough meshes

[vocal shard]

i literely just figured out how distribution work a few days ago and my life is changed

[desert stratus]

and then half of the people in a lobby using those, also, what is distribution @vocal shard

[mossy totem]

dude i literally thought of getting a nonk i5 8gen and realised theres like 100 usd difference

[desert stratus]

fuck that, second i have money im buying a 3900x

[granite crater]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 8986 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

if ur avatar dont look like this dont talk to me
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518146983320485889/567100223940198400/unknown.png

[desert stratus]

i need to feed blender power so i can model with 4 million triangles /s

[mossy totem]

3900x is nice

[vocal shard]

@desert stratus basically you can put just 1 bone in the root of a piece of hair and use the distribution graph to make it look like theres bones in all the other pieces

[desert stratus]

i see

[mossy totem]

@vocal shard you are a horrible being

[vocal shard]

dont worry thats not me

ya, its so much better and looks exactly tthe same

anyone here created a world?

i don't even USE dynamic bones cause i don't have any hair 😎

kinda

[sterile skiff]

hehe but you can use dynamic bones on your ass

[mossy totem]

i did to try and experiment

[vocal shard]

teehee look at my ass dynamic bones uwu owo my thighs jiggles....

how do I flatten an object im stuck at trying to move it up and down

dude the game is still down, and the player count is literally half of earlier

scale

[mossy totem]

idk i only made like a baseplate

im guessing theres a tool like in roblox studio.... yea that thing sucks ass

[vocal shard]

im sorry im just trying to learn lol but how do I scale
I only learned how to make My avatar

@vocal shard shortcut is R

select your object, then there should be a scale thing right below the position in the top right on the inspector

or be a gamer like blank and know the keybinds

[smoky cedar]

is vrchat working now

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard Thank you

[mossy totem]

nope

[vocal shard]

Wait Vrchat is down?

[smoky cedar]

ye

[vocal shard]

been down for like an hour now

[smoky cedar]

hour? jeez

[safe flower]

Is there an alternative for dynamic bones that doesn't cost $20?

[vocal shard]

Cloth physics. But those are more taxing than DB

[umbral reef]

🏴‍☠️

[rigid crescent]

Basically no

[exotic pulsar]

I feel bad that my avi has 13 materials

[desert stratus]

dont delay, hit "combine materials" in CAT's today!

[languid beacon]

One click fix in blender

[exotic pulsar]

it is under 70k tris though

[vocal shard]

Then reduce it

you can always try and fix it hack, but 13 is definitely a lot better compared to the majority of public avatars lol

[desert stratus]

or get sick of CAT's auto atlas and manual atlas >u>

[vocal shard]

lmao blender

[desert stratus]

that too, most public avatars start at 20

13 still def a lot tho, for what people do, almost every single vrc avatar can be 1 material, at most 6

[limpid sage]

is vrchat back up?

[exotic pulsar]

I need to combine the materials for the glasses (3 materials) and the face (it came with mats for both eyes if I wanted to color change them)

[vocal shard]

thats a no

[limpid sage]

f

[desert stratus]

like send me a picture of your avatar and i can guess how many materials it should be

[vocal shard]

color change them? more like epic eye shader time.

get it done hack!! auto-atlasing in cats is real easy, takes no time at all

[desert stratus]

of course depending on what shader you want to use

[languid beacon]

If I had the ability I’d allow very poor avatars, but auto hide anyone with more than maybe 8 materials. That’s not possible, so all very poor avatars get hidden

[rigid crescent]

I like to keep my models unoptimized just like the Japanese creators intended.

[exotic pulsar]

heh

[desert stratus]

LOL

[vocal shard]

same mic, if im not uploading an avatar with 23 skinned meshes, all the same material but separated because i FELT LIKE IT, why even bother?

[desert stratus]

tbf i think thats more for customization sake which makes sense when youre selling something heavily marketed as a product rather than a project

[delicate pelican]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 8710 users in VRChat currently

[rigid crescent]

If Yowai wanted me to be one skin mesh and Snori didn't want me adding on more meshes they wouldn't literally tell you to do that.

[languid beacon]

Keep the unoptimized one for yourself for modding no need to upload it

Mmd avatars were intended for rendering not real-time

[rigid crescent]

Nah man the guides on all the Japanese accessories tell you to add it on in the hierarchy in unity.

[languid beacon]

Oh ok I wasn’t aware this was a bit

[rigid crescent]

Why go against re crestors wishes.

[hollow tree]

How everyone doing today?

[rigid crescent]

I mean it's only kind of a bit. Every accessory guide on booths says to that

[vocal shard]

everything mic is saying is factual 😎

shoutouts to reeve and leema for both having one mesh one material fbxs

reema and leeve idk fuck

[rigid crescent]

Wtf really?

[vocal shard]

that would be hell to edit

its ok they include one with every mesh separated

and then one with it separated by groups

[rigid crescent]

Thank goodness. Something to add all those skinned mesh watches to

[clever comet]

yare yare

[vocal shard]

400k poly watches!

[rigid crescent]

I love all the people who assume vket models are optimized lol

Most are multiple skinned meshes with too many mats and the DB are only low because it's a sample version

[vocal shard]

most of the dynamic bones on the ones i've seen have been well optimized, but the meshes are always separate 😔

yuuko uses like 3 last i saw Pog

[rigid crescent]

The sample ones of the models I've bought previously had a low count on the sample and the real one on the paid version

[exotic pulsar]

Mine uses 40

[rigid crescent]

Mimino was like 30 sample and 90-ish on the paid

[spark haven]

vrchat is back?

[vocal shard]

components??

[rigid crescent]

#server-status

[spark haven]

thx

[exotic pulsar]

dynamic bones

[rigid crescent]

Transforms

[exotic pulsar]

most of them are on the jacket

[vocal shard]

oh okay i nearly got scared
idk how many transforms yuuko has, i only know components 😔

[exotic pulsar]

theres one on the hair for swooshing, but yeah

If I knew the impact of Dynbones compared to cloth physics I might convert over to cloth

[rigid crescent]

I'm just gonna save up for something from MDG or Jjinomu tbh

Then get a custom outfit for my mimino

[vocal shard]

dynamic bones hard on cpu! cloth hard on gpu!
Thats all i know.

[rigid crescent]

That's my main and I designed my OC after that anyway so it'll match up

[still yarrow]

wow if only someone had made an optimized dynamic bone script for vrchat to use

oh wait someone did, too bad it's not being used

[vocal shard]

post it

[still yarrow]

nope it's not whitelisted i believe

[exotic pulsar]

I'll gladly switch to it if I knew about it

[rigid crescent]

I always hear the same claim with no proof.

[vocal shard]

then you're part of the problem!!!

[still yarrow]

kaj made it

[rigid crescent]

Oh man I could use it in SUVA

[vocal shard]

raise awareness post the link 😡
campaign for it on the canny or something idk

[umbral reef]

Like that works

[still yarrow]

it's not ever going to be used, and it cant be

[pale timber]

fake inculta

[rigid crescent]

Oh if Kaj made it i believe it tbh lol

[umbral reef]

Its not like the team been informed about it when it got released/made

[vocal shard]

i just wanna see the post

broo

[exotic pulsar]

Yeah, if there was anything made for dynamic bones that didn't make most computers toasters then there would have been a LOT more about it

or just implement VRM and call it good

[vocal shard]

i legit cant get into game. i launch, log-in's then it never loads me into a world..

[rigid crescent]

#server-status

[still yarrow]

servers are down

[vocal shard]

why does it say people are online on vrchat home then?

[exotic pulsar]

because they were already online

[vocal shard]

so if u were already online, u can stay. but other people like us cant log in?

anyone has an avatar world and can tell me whut to do to put my world under 'avatar worlds' category

[exotic pulsar]

yes, because the login servers and the world instance servers are two different things

[vocal shard]

ah okay, this whole time i thought there was somethin wrong with my game, and have been trouble shooting for the past hour..

[exotic pulsar]

nope. things are broken and the monkeys behind the scenes are smacking things with wrenches to get it working again

[desert stratus]

nah, pinged a while ago that there is connection issues being worked on~

[vocal shard]

feels bad.. just wanna hang with ma gurl..

[knotty smelt]

all my friends can play - my logon loop with connection time out - grrrrrr

[exotic pulsar]

I just wish that the state would finally deposit my unemployment into my account that I've been waiting 8 weeks for now

[upper crescent]

°_° ...

[languid beacon]

It hasn’t been 8 weeks since tax day

[exotic pulsar]

my unemployment, not taxes. got my taxes in feburary

[languid beacon]

Ah yeah different story

[vocal shard]

Hmm something weird is happening to me on VRChat tbh

[languid beacon]

It’s broken right now. For everyone

[vocal shard]

Oof

ya servers are down i beleive

[exotic pulsar]

I was laid off with the whole covid crisis and the computer that runs all of that made a good decision on flagging about 95% of all the unemployment claims as fraud

[vocal shard]

Well that sucks a lot so now i just have to wait

[exotic pulsar]

yep

[vocal shard]

Oh well that stuff can happen

my gurl managed to login, but she's been on for hours now. swear she's cheatin on me 🤣

xD

[desert stratus]

raid

[pure hemlock]

She probably is dude

[vocal shard]

Oh so you say she could be a trap

[languid beacon]

Play mode in unity still works so I’m just gonna pretend I’m in a private world

[wary hollow]

Lonely 100

[vocal shard]

Nerda

Oof so hard

i mean when i did meet her, she was a huge flirt with multiple dudes man.. and when she was startin to slowly announce to her friends that we were dating, so many guys onfronted her being butt hurt and sad and stuff. so i wouldnt be surprised if she just cheats.. oof

[delicate pelican]

hmm 🤔

[vocal shard]

Well since i can't play VRChat rn then am just gonna type it

No- No Don't Touch Me There This Is- My No No Square

[unique yew]

i still cant get into vrchat

[vocal shard]

servers are DOWN!!!

[unique yew]

i thought it was my pc

[vocal shard]

#announcements !!! 😡

i did tooo

[unique yew]

i cleared my cache which was prob a good idea since it waz 20gb

[vocal shard]

they will post again when its working

lmao, spent a good hour trouble shooting for nothin, and OMG SAME

my cache had 26gb loooool

[broken plover]

for some reason it works in europe (atleast in germany) lol

[delicate pelican]

ok why not

[vocal shard]

so can i big brain it, use vpn. place myself in Germany? then log in?

[granite crater]

Vpn time

[vocal shard]

its been down for 2 hours now holy shit lol

BRUH I cant upload my world why not?

come on @steep rover! we all stuck in quarantine!? Fix ur shit

@broken plover it works for some isps but not for others, depends on peering or transit used by the isps

we got nothin better to do 😛

[delicate pelican]

let all out we need the vrchat drug now

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard nothing vrchat can do, its an isp issue

wait wut do u mean? so do our internet providers need to fix the issue?

no, the provider vrchat uses for the servers needs to fix it

ahhh

Can confirm using a vpn to germany allows you to play

big brain

Huh. that's weird

[dusk gate]

what vpn do you use?

[vocal shard]

why are VPNs letting you guys in? 🤔

cause BIG BRAIN

tunnelbear

[vagrant stone]

how do you guys use vpn?

[vocal shard]

Nord VPN here lululululul

@vocal shard a vpn to the same datacenter where the servers are inside also works :)

you can look up VPNs on Google

download and pay @vagrant stone

I use PIA but haven't been able to get in.

[vagrant stone]

oh im broke-

[vocal shard]

expressvpn also works for a friend of mine

wouldnt it be laggy though?

[vagrant stone]

is that one free?

[vocal shard]

nope, not if you have a decent paid vpn

like ur giving yourself ping placin urself in germany

not really

free ones mabe

as long as you pick a location either close to you or close to the servers (san jose), you're fine

if anything, it just keeps it at 170 or below

[opal whale]

living in germany and it looks like we're affected now as well. (world initializes, then error-s and boots me out)

[nimble panther]

Hmmm

[vocal shard]

@opal whale what isp?

bruu dats kinda laggy, but i guess for vrchat it no matter

[opal whale]

Vodafone on my end

[vocal shard]

that's actually the Avg. Ping for the most VRC players @vocal shard

[broken plover]

I have telekom and it worked few minutes ago

I have telekom and it worked few minutes ago

[vocal shard]

ya im hititng about 100 on a vpn, but thats not much higher than normal at 65

really? never noticed, wutever. ima just play another game for now lmao

[mossy totem]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 9467 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

May the 4th be with you! (day of star wars) x3

[languid beacon]

This is not a specific VRChat question but figured I’d ask here anyway Anyone know why my microphone is on a delay? I am always talking overtop other people because of it. I thought it was VRChat but it’s actually just my computer in general. All microphone sources do it for all applications

[opal whale]

looks like they just restarted something, i'm back in and able to load world (germany, vodafone), let's hope it stays stable

looks like they just restarted something, i'm back in and able to load world (germany, vodafone), let's hope it stays stable

[vocal shard]

yeah, right as i wanted to do a ripe atlas measurement :c

around 2 hours and 40 minutes, not a new record. good luck for the next time

Well I'm in now

(sorry for my sarcasm)

get back into vrchat again, everyone. have fun and enjoy your stay

[deft mulch]

ok dont take piss but im a complete noob with vr chat hate to admitt it ,i have oculus quest but not sure what to do and can sombody quide me frew it please

[languid beacon]

With quest there are two ways to play. Are you going to connect it to your computer or just play the quest version without a computer? Also #quest-general can help you with more focused chat @deft mulch

[deft mulch]

im cinneting to pc

connecting

[languid beacon]

Is this your first vr headset?

[hybrid kayak]

anyone wanna chat in vr xd

[deft mulch]

no

[hybrid kayak]

😦

[deft mulch]

my partner has rift n had ps4 one

[languid beacon]

You’ll need to download Oculus Link software off Oculus.com. Then connect your quest to your Pc with a USB3 cable. The charge cable will not work for this.

[deft mulch]

i have all that

i can get on game just no sure what to do or where i should be or the avatars etc

[languid beacon]

Ah different story entirely haha

[deft mulch]

rooms etc

[gilded spade]

its all very limited for quest

[languid beacon]

It’s not limited on Quest Link.

[gilded spade]

oh really

[languid beacon]

Quest link is same as Rift / vive / index. It’s the Pc version

[deft mulch]

ive herd many say that and that you dont get full game

[gilded spade]

well, just explore different worlds then

[languid beacon]

It’s only limited when you use the quest without being connected to a computer

[gilded spade]

makes sense

[deft mulch]

ah right so stay connected to pc then

[gilded spade]

avatars are found in avatar worlds, they have their own category on the menu

[deft mulch]

can you pick any or do you need to explore worlds to unlock ?

[gilded spade]

haha, no unlocking

just pic one from the menu

[deft mulch]

ah okaii suppose ill have a gander

[mossy totem]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 12026 users in VRChat currently

[fading flower]

nice

[cold talon]

so many !online commands in all the channels :notlikethis:

[vocal shard]

there's a dedicated #bottalk channel for it but i dont understand why the team doesnt limit where the bot responds to the command

its literally just 1-2 or maybe 5 lines of code, depending on what it should do if someone uses the !online command in a non-bot channel (delete the message? respond to the user in the #bottalk channel even though the user used the command somewhere else? etc.)

[cold talon]

but than people will start asking why the bot does not work when using the command and it will create problems :^(

[vocal shard]

people wouldn't know that there be an !online command in this channel if they never saw it being used

[little lintel]

hi

[cold talon]

[frosty veldt]

Why does the command exist when you can just look at the bot on the right?

[vocal shard]

the bot can also just like delete the message, respond to the user in the current channel that the command needs to be used in #bottalk and then delete that message as well

[cold talon]

leme get the memory erasing pen

[vocal shard]

they don't need the command since there is a vvrcbot with the status that automatically update it

@frosty veldt because people are lazy

literally just have to look at vrcbot and you know the number, you don't even need the command

[frosty veldt]

I mean its not like its that annoying, some rando puts the command in every once in a while

[cold talon]

well the command does give a more recent reading, but still has a, i think 30s time between calls to the vrc server

[vocal shard]

i guess its 1 minute since thats how often the sessions get cleared

or was it 2 minutes? something tells me that the interval was raised from 1 to 2 minutes a few months ago but i could be wrong as well

[cold talon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal shard]

actually, looks like this behavior was changed quite a while ago as i dont see the usual session clearing pattern anymore

[gilded spade]

anyone know how often the menu updates? either worlds or social?

[vocal shard]

it shoooooould update when you click expand on the individual tabs

[gilded spade]

lately the social tab is just blank until I click the worlds tab then click back

[vocal shard]

yeah it takes a while for the social tab to load

[fading flower]

yeah

[opal whale]

same, i just wait for the worldlist to update to be sure that the social-tab is up to date too

[gilded spade]

and the number of people in worlds is usually wrong, been that way for years

[vocal shard]

its not wrong, its just delayed

[gilded spade]

by how much?

[vocal shard]

couple minutes

[fading flower]

like, 40 seconds ish

[vocal shard]

lol, you wish

[gilded spade]

yeah, gotta be longer than that

[cold talon]

40s would be pretty damn fast

[sick plaza]

anyone else still having issues with connection?

[opal whale]

world downloads take quite a bit longer than usual, though that might be something on my end

(as in it reaches 100%, then just waits there a minute before switching to initialising)

[languid beacon]

I’ve noticed that too

World search results take a while to come in as well

[vocal shard]

Oh

[main stag]

Hellow, does anyone has also problems to get the Avatars ingame under "My Creation" after uploading through unity? ;o i Upload an Avatar got the message "Upload complete open VRchat to see your Content" and there is nothing. When i take a look at the vrchat homepage in my Avatar section the new Avatar is already in there but not ingame o.o

[ruby needle]

You need to use unity 2018.4.20f1

[main stag]

i did

oh wait i have 21f1

[ruby needle]

See 😛

[main stag]

there is no option to downgrade to 20f1 or downloading 20f1 😭

[ruby needle]

ofc there is a option to download 20f1

[vocal shard]

Unity hub is very useful.

[ruby needle]

I think hub is awkward unless you really need multiple versions at the same time

https://download.unity3d.com/download_unity/008688490035/UnityDownloadAssistant-2018.4.20f1.exe 20f1 direct link

[main stag]

yea found it in the download section 😄

im totaly new at this uff trying since one hour xD

[vocal shard]

[hollow sluice]

its useful for me because I have 2019 for my own personal project, 2018 for beat saber and 2017 for vrchat

[fast trench]

It is also great to prepare for the eventual transition from unity 2018 to 2019 lts then to 2020

[hollow sluice]

well sstill have like 3 years before that happens

[rapid pawn]

On steam

[violet gull]

Basically

You can still have a VRChat account to upload avatars through steam

[steady kayak]

anyone cannot connect? i get password incorrect

[violet gull]

Not at all

[steady kayak]

is that because of server issues?

[violet gull]

I dunno if I can enter. Didn't try yet.

I bought mine when I was 30 lel.

[vocal shard]

I hate Life when It gets so slow. I cant pass out my teen age

[steady kayak]

2fa enabled and password recovered yay

[violet gull]

Believe me, when it gets old it will get WORSE :V

Yes you might have some amount of money but it will suck.

[hallow trout]

ive been playing vrc for along time now and ive constantly had this issue on my mind, that issue being that even if you click cancel to stop loading into a world or move world when people are loading/changing avatar the game still thinks you are in that world/loading that world so ping is terrible till that world/avatar is downloaded when your not even in said place its loading/downloading

[hollow sluice]

I think its that way to prevent corruption

you still have to download the map fully it sucks but really how often do you do that?

[hallow trout]

but it all just downloads to the cache which can be changed and edited even while the game is running

[hollow sluice]

yes but if a file is there but not downloaded fully, it can cause issues

I am not sure but this makes sense to me

[hallow trout]

it just sucks having slow internet and then joining a friend who is in a freakin 500mb world then sayin nah f that, and back out your internet is crap till that stuff done

generally takes me 5mins for anything over 100mb's

[vocal shard]

o.o

It takes me like 3 seconds

[hallow trout]

yeah thats how bad it is

[vocal shard]

Yikes

[hallow trout]

makes no sense to why i wasted 5k hours into this game XD

then again i joined from week one and instantly fell in love with the game, regardless of the crasher war of 2017 where no public was safe, tbh publics still arnt safe no matter what changes/updats come out

[vocal shard]

If you have 5k hours you should k ow how to avoid crashers

[hallow trout]

i know how but being who i am private worlds dont suit me in the slightest, due to the fandom im apart of privates only mean one thing and i dont want anything to do with it XD, but still privates publics whats the difference, at the end of the day its either split groups or the mirror and not to sound like a vrc boomer but ide rather take the mirror

i wander how bad it would be if i was to @ VRPill and tell him that i was the creator of a model he saved (or well i was told he saved it)

[sterile ingot]

I think I have been in one private room.

[pale timber]

lol

[sterile ingot]

Aside from home, that doesn't count.

I am just a lowly regular user, though.

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna celebrate my birthday in VRchat ?

[ivory zephyr]

il do it here, Happy bday!

[vocal shard]

why is it that a quarter of the people in my public lobbies seem to ignore my safety settings?

[sterile ingot]

It's my birthday too.

I'm on a mission for cake and beer.

[vocal shard]

Happy Birthday, I'll take a shot for you

[sterile ingot]

Thanks

Kinda hard for it not to seem like a bit of a funeral though consider the other event going on today.

[ivory zephyr]

feels bad

[sterile ingot]

I wanna kick Disney in the balls for thinking they own today.

[ivory zephyr]

???

[sterile ingot]

Guess you've never heard ,"May the 4th be with you . . ", @ivory zephyr ?

[ivory zephyr]

oh

that was yesterday for me

[sterile ingot]

Well bullshit Lucasfilm announcements were today.

[ivory zephyr]

kill them all

[sterile ingot]

I predict Brie Larson will be in the next film.

[past sorrel]

Is anyone having a problem where they can’t select someone?

[vocal shard]

@sterile ingot dude, just ignore it, it's your birthday, get drunk at!

If your game lags too much you can't select people is what I've noticed.

[past sorrel]

No I would have 99Ping, and 30 frames and put my the little blue laser over someone and the blue oval wouldn’t even pop up to select them

[sterile ingot]

I don't get drunk, just tipsy

[vocal shard]

Well it's not my birthday yet, it's not until the 6th

[sterile ingot]

Well then . . .

Guess I just sucked the air out of the room.

[vocal shard]

Could it be that they're outside of their player space? Like with playspace mover and they're above where their name is? They might move but their hitbox stays on the ground

Or if the ground is moving relative to you that also makes it so you can't select people or your menu

[vocal shard]

I was in a lobby with a crasher, and my friend accidentally reported me instead of the jerk spamming particles

What do I do? I'm in fear of my account being terminated

[mossy path]

F

[ivory zephyr]

pray

[sterile ingot]

One time is not going to make a big difference.

Especially if your friend unblocked you afterwards.

[vocal shard]

I have an avatar with sick animations, so they might actually claim me guilty

It isnt a crasher, yet it has a clapping emoji effect

[sterile ingot]

Once again, one time is not a big deal.

[vocal shard]

ok

[sterile ingot]

If you think your avatar is annoying enough to potentially deserve a ban, what reason do you have to use it?

[vocal shard]

It was a birthday gift from a friend

and I like the shaders too

[sterile ingot]

Cool

[vocal shard]

It's only the rock hand gesture that makes the shake effect and clap emoji

but if admins go reeeeee, they will see my avatar's capabilities

and Im innocent

[sterile ingot]

There's logs. Though it sounds to me like you recognize your avatar is capable of things it shouldn't be capable of.

Ever consider fixing it?

[vocal shard]

Its the birthday themesong bassboosted with clapping emojis

it doesnt crash anyone, its just annoying after more than one use

[sterile ingot]

That doesn't answer my question.

If it's that puke inducing shake thing, it's annoying the first time.

At least for me, I have had people do that to me.

[sick oracle]

Hi! Im new to vrchat, liking it a lot! is it rude to ask someone where they got their avatar? is there a better way to find out to see if the creator has a catalogue?

[sterile ingot]

You can see details about their avatar.

[vocal shard]

doesnt shake anything

[sterile ingot]

It's only the rock hand gesture that makes the shake effect and clap emoji
@vocal shard

Did you mean shade?

[vocal shard]

no

i meant shake, it makes my avatar shake like a noodle

[sterile ingot]

Ah

[vocal shard]

its like a dance thing, i dont mean the epileptic earthquake lol

[sterile ingot]

Why are you worried? I don't get it.

[vocal shard]

because I dont want to get banned

[sterile ingot]

Not for one time. Not for something that innocent. Unless there's something you're leaving out.

[vocal shard]

It hasnt been long since I first started using vrchat, and I feel paranoid that today was my lass session

i have a crasher in my friends list

[sterile ingot]

Nahhhhh, I don't think so. If what you are saying is true, there are logs.

[vocal shard]

but its an avatar he owns, I cant do anything about it

he's my cousin

[sterile ingot]

So a crasher made you this avatar, and that's what's wrong with it?

[vocal shard]

yeah

[sterile ingot]

No big deal

The avatar itself isn't a crasher, I think you are fine.

Your cousin should grow the fuck up, though. Pardon my language.

[vocal shard]

He's 28 lol

[sterile ingot]

Doesn't mean he's grown up.

Or should I say mature?

[vocal shard]

my cousin doesnt crash much anymore, only in private worlds

its the dude in my lobby that im worried about

he actually crashed ppl, and his name has an s in it too

so thats why my homie accidentally reported me

I could be wrongly accused, all odds are against me

[sterile ingot]

Did he later report the correct dude?

[vocal shard]

yeah

mods could think there were two crashers tho

[sterile ingot]

I really think you should stop worrying. For one thing the mods will look over the logs before coming to any conclusion. For another worrying isn't doing you any good now than just stressing you out. You gotta wait and see even if you were going to get banned, which I really think you won't. They have a good system here, I think, that is designed to be fair to people.

[vocal shard]

will bans last forever?

[sterile ingot]

If you actually do get banned for this, I bet it would be short term. Once again, I don't think you'll be banned.,

[vocal shard]

i would be tempted to make a new account but thats ban evading and wrong

[sterile ingot]

So don't do that.

[vocal shard]

do people see you were banned?

[sterile ingot]

Take your punishment and own the mistake and move on. Best plan of action when you actually do get in trouble.

I don't think so, just mods.

[vocal shard]

are they gonna strike with you like a permanent record?

[sterile ingot]

Well of course punishments get progressively worse when someone keeps offending.

[vocal shard]

:(

[sterile ingot]

Dude, you are likely fine.

[vocal shard]

im sorry that i have that avatar, i didnt mean any harm, im scared

vrchat is the only reason i bought a headset

[sterile ingot]

I can recommend some cool games, though that's beside the point. There are logs. If you didn't do anything, you are fine. If you DID do something that you left out, take the punishment and learn from it because that's the only way you improve. From what you told me though, you didn't do anything. Mistaken report sent, I bet that happens from time to time. The mods don't have to punish someone just because the report was sent, they just have to look into it.

And they certainly shouldn't be banning someone based solely on who created their avatar.

Unless it's like . . . a rights issue. Like someone ripping Melody's avatar or something.

[south junco]

is vrchat international? I thought it was, but I'm not so sure (like can i friend/play with ppl from asia when im in america)

[meager solstice]

@south junco yes it’s international

[south junco]

ty

[desert gust]

hey what does a red name mean?

[grim canopy]

what?

[desert gust]

instead of a purple or blue or grey little box around a name, its red

[grim canopy]

admin, or could be a shader trick

[desert gust]

oh

[grim canopy]

why you ask?

[desert gust]

just curious never seen a red name before, now theres 2

[vocal shard]

Admin? I've seen the devs and their names aren't even any different

[willow ravine]

i think ron might have used it once. but i think its generally bad right?

idk

[barren igloo]

[neon steeple]

just spent 2 hours playing in a virtual band in the pug, shit was wild
long live the whisky brothers

[vocal shard]

is there a way to remove the numbers from my name why are they even there ?

Steam/Oculus account

steam

[nimble linden]

To remove the numbers you have to convert your account into a vrchat account

[vocal shard]

most people say do not do it cuz it messes stuff up ?

[nimble linden]

That is also required if you want to upload your own content.

I've never had any issues with it messing things up, but if you ever plan on making or uploading content of your own, you are going to have to do it eventually.

But yeah, that is the only way to remove the numbers, sorry.

[vocal shard]

why are the numbers even there like its soo bad

[nimble linden]

It's because it uses your steam name, which can be changed. So it needs additional identifiers to make your account name unique (IIRC)

The VRChat account requires you to have a unique name (steam does not) and thus you don't need the extra numbers with a vrchat account

Most of this is speculation, as I've never talked to any devs about this directly

[pale timber]

u can merge accounts

[vocal shard]

id say my name is unique since its the same as the acc name that has to be unique the one u use to log in

the numbers just wack

[nimble linden]

Anyway because of how usernames work on steam, the numbers are not going away unless you merge with a vrchat account

[pale timber]

then make an account with that unique name of yours and merge it

[vocal shard]

and be a visitor ?

[nimble linden]

They're saying that people have told them that merging messes ranks and stuff up

I've heard that too, but I've never seen it happen first-hand.

[pale timber]

actually its harder to rank up as a steam account than vrc acct

[vocal shard]

i dont upload so how can it be harder ?

[pale timber]

i dont upload at i only had 60 friends before becoming known user

[nimble linden]

I don't think that's necessarily true Rinz. They made the ranking system purposely vague and a little random to make it harder to "game the system"

That might be why it was different for you on both.

[pale timber]

yes its all different but i wouldnt base it all around one thing

its never the same for any one person

[vocal shard]

i have 500 hrs and 90 friends and im a user

[pale timber]

with steam accounts you rank up slower as ive said

[nimble linden]

I don't think you should worry about your rank. Just play the game and enjoy it how you want to. There's no real reason to care about rank in my opinion. There's a little bit of discrimination between ranks like visitors being ignored or trusted users being called "no-lifers" but other than that it really has very little impact on your experience

[pale timber]

and hours dont really have anything to do with rank

[nimble linden]

@pale timber do you have any proof that steam accounts rank up slower?

[vocal shard]

rinz do u have any proof hrs aint in the ranking up ?

since i actually asked about it from a dev of the game and he sayd hrs and friend count are part of it aswell

[nimble linden]

They do count hours. But it's not the only factor. And it's not the same every time as we've said before

[vocal shard]

since everyone cant handle wasting their money on buying model just to do a recolor on it or some stuff like that

It is not hard to make a vrchat account and merge it

and loose my rank ?

It doesn’t lose your rank

[nimble linden]

Merging brings over your rank and your friends list

[vocal shard]

my friend did on hes second account and he went to visitior and friend list got cleared

but it was hes second acc sooo it wasnt too bad

[nimble linden]

May have been a bug, or maybe he did something incorrectly, but the function of merging accounts is meant to be to preserve your friends/rank

[pale timber]

contact support then

[vocal shard]

i have been told by different people about it happening soo yea not gona risk it

they take like a week to respond

i was having fps and ping issues and i waited 2 weeks to get a respond

[nimble linden]

That doesn't seem like a problem that vrchat support would likely be able to do much about for you, so maybe that was why it took so long.

Idk, but anyway, the options are on the table, take them or don't, that's your decision.

[vocal shard]

well it is their badly optimized game soo why shouldnt they be able to help 😄

[rigid crescent]

depends a lot on specs as well

[vocal shard]

i usually play games that actually have good graphics and stuff soo i dont see why the fps drops are so bad on it i have a beefy pc soo droping from 90 to 45 is scuffed

[rigid crescent]

how many games do you play that have unmoderated user generated content

[nimble linden]

You have to remember that the content in this game is 99.999% user created content. The people creating this stuff are hobbyists. Not usually professionals. That is where the optimization issues mostly lay

[rigid crescent]

im guessing one

[nimble linden]

Maybe 2. Gmod

[vocal shard]

hmm u do know alot of games have skins that are made by the people playing it and have alot of stuff happening alot of stuff being built in game blown up that is alot more demanding than avatars i have animations and shaders off for everyone and still the fps frops are so bad that is just bad

[rigid crescent]

"skins made by the people" isn't the same thing.

You're comparing a Left 4 Dead gamerip skin to potentially unlimited user created content.

[nimble linden]

They have strict guidelines/rules for content submitted into those games, not to mention editing textures or skins does not have any performance impact

[rigid crescent]

If it was "a lot more demanding than avatars" then you wouldn't be having an issue either.

People can create content in this game that, if ported into any other game, would cause similar, if not worse issues.

[nimble linden]

Much worse most likely considering other games have very tight performance budgets

[vocal shard]

ee on the game i play skins do have a performance impact thats why they optimized it better soo when joining u load the skins before hand and it doesnt affect u later before they did that it lagged alot

[rigid crescent]

That's still not the same thing.

[nimble linden]

What I'm saying is you're comparing apples to grapes

[young dagger]

avatars are that important?

[nimble linden]

They're not the same by any stretch of the imagination.

[rigid crescent]

I mean they're one of the only reasons anyone plays this game, I'd say they're important lol

If not the main reason.

[nimble linden]

I think they meant towards performance

[rigid crescent]

Avatars and worlds are the only two things in the game, so....yeah. They're either first or second place just by process of elimination

[nimble linden]

But yeah avatars and worlds are almost the entire reason your game lags so much.

[vocal shard]

so actually talking and interacting with people isnt needed soo

[young dagger]

lol

[rigid crescent]

Now you're just being pedantic.

[young dagger]

i recently played vr chat and i see people say " you stole my avatar" when its a game rip of a video game character

[rigid crescent]

As far as performance affecting things, a human being isn't affecting your performance.

[vocal shard]

if it was about avatars i wouldnt really have the lag issue i could just sit in a private world alone 😄

[nimble linden]

People play this game for different reasons. Some people are hobbyists looking for a platform to showcase their art. Some people are looking for friends, others for partners. No one way is the most important way to play

[rigid crescent]

My point was that the only things that can affect your performance heavily in this game are avatars and worlds.

[nimble linden]

There is no point arguing about that. But yes avatars and world's are what cause like 99% of lag. There are other factors like memory leaks, but that can only go so far towards better performance

[vocal shard]

no u literally sayd people just play vrchat for the sole purpose of avatars

[rigid crescent]

Custom avatars, yes. The ability to upload a custom avatar.

Without that, there wouldn't be nearly as big of an audience

I also said they're "one of the only" reasons "if not the main reason" so maybe read before you try and nitpick.

[vocal shard]

whenever someone has asked that question in game people say its the interactions that drew them in

[rigid crescent]

I didn't say "the sole purpose" or "the only reason".

The interactions wouldn't have drawn them in if the game wasn't given notoriety from the content created with avatars.

[nimble linden]

All of this is speculation and generalisation. Nothing is true 100% of the time and you guys ought to realise that

[young dagger]

custom avatars are cool and all, but got to disable particles for everyone unless they are friends lol...

[nimble linden]

Mic is right to some degree though. The game is mostly as popular as it is today because of all the memes and streams

[rigid crescent]

I just turn off animations for non-friends, easier that way.

[nimble linden]

Without user created content, word of this game would have never gotten out. People flocked to the meme capabilities and many many people only play it for that.

[rigid crescent]

Avatars and worlds put the game on the map, definitely.

[nimble linden]

That being said, it generally isn't what is keeping people playing. It may have been the hook, but I find people stick around for the other things it can offer

[vocal shard]

so ud say people would have been drawn into the game without the knuckles speaking or making sounds ?

[young dagger]

but tbh

[rigid crescent]

Most likely not to the same degree.

[young dagger]

all avatars look the same...., short, animal eared, deviant art style oc don't steal

[rigid crescent]

I mean it'll be like that in any medium. A popular thing will be popular.

[vocal shard]

dude if they didnt say nothing or do the noices it would have been just a weird sonic looking ass looking funny not gona make people wana play

[nimble linden]

There is a large subset of players who use those avatars, and a whole other side of the community that uses memes, their own original content, game rips, etc

[vocal shard]

waifu dont forget the eboy hand ofc

[nimble linden]

To say that the community is all one thing or another is disingenuous

[young dagger]

i dont even know what a eboy or egirl is until someone harassed me for looking like one

[vocal shard]

its the robotic looking right hand

[rigid crescent]

....what?

[nimble linden]

Imo y'all need to focus on what makes you happy and stop trying to overthink how other people should experience vrchat.

[vocal shard]

no no from now on ima just sit in a private world and look at the avatar in the mirror 😄

wasted 400 hrs on actually socializing

[rigid crescent]

It's fine lol they were trying to nitpick without actually reading my post. People play differently for sure.

[potent badge]

I just lost my seal avatar ;-;

im currently just finding it now

[sacred shard]

Hello?

Tis' I

[oblique igloo]

greetings

[vocal shard]

no

[broken plover]

you can upload images somewhere else and then paste the link here. I have an empty discord server that I use just to upload images to then paste the link here

someone else asked a question and then deleted it

[vocal shard]

yes

[cyan badge]

how can i do that i dont get effected by the visual distortion some avatars give to other players

[worn nimbus]

hi

xould you guys help me out and check out my streams its on twitch my name is papa_toast

[broken plover]

disable shaders or animations for everyone except friends in the safety system settings

[cyan badge]

ok thanks alot

[ivory zephyr]

search the web

have you used the seearch for worls feature in vrc

hmm

keep up your seacrh, coz i have no idea

hope you find it

[vocal shard]

hi

[strong jetty]

heyo

anyone wanna hang out?

[queen geode]

hi

[muted geyser]

Hello echo echo echo Can anyone help me find answer as to why I cannot enter the Old Pug world? All I am getting is black screen, failure to load then freeze, requiring a reboot? Is the world broken or have I been barred? [prev. posted in Lobby but they all seem to be RPing in there] Cheers.

[queen geode]

i would but i have a live session soon

[muted geyser]

Would I even know if I had been barred?

[umbral reef]

@muted geyser If you got banned you would have known
Ask in #user-support-old or for a better result #vrchat-support , use the website and or send in a support ticket

[muted geyser]

#user-support-old, okay @umbral reef thanks. Just though I would ask, y'know, in case it was just me. BTW I tried dumping the cache and logging out of VRC and into Steam and back again, all with same result. Unless anyone else would like to chip in, I'll throw in a ticket and see what's up 🙂

[rigid moss]

yo

[past galleon]

#moderation-reports help me in register pls when i start creating account starts saying every time:An unknown error occurred

[west yoke]

Uh what you're tagging does nothing other then link people to it as that's a discord channel. Anyway you can try either using a different browser to register, clearing the cache in the browser you're using currently, or try using a VPN (if you have one)

[vocal shard]

lol

[past galleon]

it's a little hard hehe for me creating acc

[vocal shard]

[queen geode]

Im bored al i thé only one

Am*

[vocal shard]

im bored

[past galleon]

who want to playwith me Pixel world and pokemmo?

[vocal shard]

lol

[past galleon]

RobloxScreenShot20200504_205642132.jgp

RobloxScreenShot20200504_205642132.jpg

how i post images?

[queen geode]

Idk

I really don't know

[past galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-dogs-big-eyes-oh-no-scared-gif-11240507

[queen geode]

What did that dog see?

Well me probaly

[past galleon]

a ghost

https://tenor.com/view/ooo-melia-team-tender-loving-gif-9132384

[queen geode]

Ok

....

Ok

I didnt have to see that but ok

Hehe

😭

https://tenor.com/view/popeyes-disappointment-immeasurable-sad-not-happy-gif-13567943

bunny what pokemon game?

ok guess there gone

Anyone who wants to talk here!

[pale timber]

lol

[weak sinew]

hi

[vocal shard]

lollolo

hi

[violet gull]

Uhhhh... I might have made a heavy avatar ;w;

[vocal shard]

[violet gull]

But it's full of toggles D:

[vocal shard]

so

hi everyone

[violet gull]

Hi

[vocal shard]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-sick-baby-yoda-covid-baby-yoda-may-the4th-be-with-you-may-the-fourth-be-with-you-gif-16920248

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-rafiki-simba-lion-king-gif-12559094

[brave flare]

is there any way for a youtube playlist (music) to autoshuffle when pasted into a video player? or are most shuffle features not working?

[cosmic thunder]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[brave flare]

can you not paste play lists in and itll auto play the next video?

[cosmic thunder]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[turbid sand]

I want to see users avatars but don’t want someone with 24k triangles showing up

[vocal shard]

?

i feel very dumb

Am I alive?

Yeeee I'm alive(had to email vrchat

[hollow sluice]

24k tris is not that bad

not bad at all actually

[vocal shard]

hi everyone

[turbid sand]

Is it possible to make it so I can see models with less then a certain number of triangles?

[rigid moss]

yo

[hollow sluice]

@turbid sand yes. maximum display rank in your safety settings

[trim orbit]

I cannot enter just like yesterday

[vocal shard]

lol

[warped sierra]

any VR wizards here?

trying to figure out a usb 3.0 issue I think

[trim orbit]

Works again

trying to figure out a usb 3.0 issue I think
@warped sierra Why what's up

[warped sierra]

Trying to determine whether the rift is running on a superspeed port

and whether SS is enabled

[trim orbit]

Hmm

[languid beacon]

24k triangles is nothing? That’s considered excellent status @turbid sand

32k and below is super optimized

And nothing below 70k is going to lag you

70k and below is “good”

If you don’t want to see poorly optimized avatars, you can choose to auto hide very poor and poor avatars. Medium and below cannot be auto-hidden, that’s the benefit of optimizing it down to medium

On the steam version yes just go to SteamVR controller binding menu

Oculus version no

(Can rebind oculus controllers on steam tho.. I moved jump to a button)

[turbid sand]

Oh great a private VRChat avatar is in public

[rigid crescent]

I wish we could just customize perf. Like particles or db

[turbid sand]

It has the internal female parts

[rigid crescent]

Dont look in there then :)

Or report the user and creator

[languid beacon]

How did you come to this discovery

[vocal shard]

hi

[topaz stream]

hello

[hollow sluice]

?

[twin fractal]

you ever just look inside yourself?

[hollow sluice]

yee

[twin fractal]

spoiler alert: you have spooky skeletal inside

[lapis ether]

So I have xbox kinect, kinect 360, and vive tracker with quest vr. Im I going a little overboard?

[hollow sluice]

whats the point of the kinect if you have vive trackers?

[lapis ether]

I bought cheap —> expensiveness

[hollow sluice]

well youre not using them at once areyou?

[lapis ether]

I am. Just asking opinions

[hollow sluice]

well we have a guy that has a CV1, DK1, DK2, MR and a few more headsets.

[topaz stream]

..

[lapis ether]

What a collecter

[hollow sluice]

yup

[twin fractal]

you have the God Setup @lapis ether

[lapis ether]

Except as if it doing for review

[twin fractal]

Quest + Trackers

[lapis ether]

Ah yeah I dont need wires for vr

Just walk anywhere you want

[twin fractal]

when my tracks come in I want to try that so bad

[hollow sluice]

I mean quest with vive trackers is not that good compared to the other combos

[twin fractal]

it's the god setup

[lapis ether]

If you have gaming pc with quest vr

[twin fractal]

(semi ironic) but wireless quest with Kinect was actually incredible

[lapis ether]

^ ikr right

[hollow sluice]

best is obviously index and vive trackers because its reliable and doesnt need any 3rd party apps. But for hybrid setups I still think Rift S and vive trackers is better than quest and trackers