I cannot bring myself
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
This game is a lot of ERPing
queen mango
Yeah. It's the reason why Lycon's Void Club private rooms exist.
near sky
Yep.
vocal shard
And why you can make an invite session
slate verge
(i have seen so many erp accidently at the top floor of The Great Pug) Like...i get it guys, that top floor is relaxing and all.
queen mango
👀
slate verge
In public.
vocal shard
Just stay away from mirrors
urban jasper
I like to walk up behind people in mirrors and hold up bunny ears
queen mango
Crikey. I've seen worse, but ERPing in public should be given the same treatment as those in real life.
slate verge
true i suppose
vocal shard
In real life is worse
urban jasper
yeah, I agree. If you want to do it, do it in private. Otherwise, your ass is getting kicked
near sky
I popped in on someone in a strip club; checking in on them. They did not like my commentary.
pure sparrow
near sky
but power to them; it's something
slate verge
some people just likes to be nosy though and actually want to see erp like right there. Thats so gross.
vocal shard
Just drop a damn portal
urban jasper
yeah I definitely am not one of those people
dusty idol
Until there is a decent backbone to police it, it won't stop.
vocal shard
Not on this game
urban jasper
There's no way they can get enough mod staff to police the entire game like that
vocal shard
Mod everyone
queen mango
That is probably an impossibility
errant vault
Mod loli police, lol
vocal shard
Only way you'll get mods to police the entire game
queen mango
Goodness no. I've seen what powers irresponsible people can abuse.
vocal shard
No shit
dusty idol
Mmhm.
near sky
My innocence will never recover.
vocal shard
Everyone vs Everyone
near sky
Flashes of things I'd rather not see; public worlds -the ERP war has begun
queen mango
Well, we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. The situation there is a social situation, with larger consequences if allowed to flourish.
dusty idol
People do what people do
near sky
People do what people do
vocal shard
People do what people do
urban jasper
what they said
vocal shard
that's what we said
near sky
Combo Breaker.
dusty idol
People do people? [badphrasing]
urban jasper
people are people
dusty idol
People eat people? (Soylent Green)
urban jasper
only one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eaters
dusty idol
Phrasing
vocal shard
anyone wanna play vr chat?
vague turtle
I'm getting sick of vrchat, just a few hours ago I had someone tell me they'd shut down my internet, and my internet was shut off.
near sky
P2P element to VRChat; IP fetching is a problem
VPN use is advisable if you want to be sure. I'm always using mine for the sake of it.
errant vault
Oh
vocal shard
Then change your ip
near sky
They won't reach your router first in the line of communication
vague turtle
I have/
near sky
If through a VPN while an attack is launched a VPN server change negates the whole issue, and VPNs are equipt to deter the traffic better than residential internet
vague turtle
I'm just saying I feel a bit more unsafe playing this game everyday.
I shouldn't need all these protective services playing games such as these.
near sky
I feel you; it's a little frustrating to be sure.
neon vine
Where do i send Crash reports?
dense ingot
Someone just changed the email of my vrchat account. D:
chilly hedge
with steam vR im using a mixed reality headset, the symbols on steamvr would be green but wouldnt launch me into steam vr home. is this a glitch or something because i dont know
plucky zinc
is the display name on https://vrchat.com/home/profile just the little blurb that appears next to the green circle when checking someone's profile in-game?
vocal shard
how do i make it so that people cant copy my avatar
queen mango
Did you leave the "Avatar Cloning" option enabled?
vocal shard
probably how do i turn it off
queen mango
Go to "Settings" in the game menu. The option should be there.
vocal shard
okay
fading flower
wth
got kicked from my homeworld into an endless 0.00mb loading screen
again
what is going on
again!
queen mango
Check #announcements and #server-status. They're doing server maintenance since yesterday. No word on whether they have finished or not.
queen mango
Best we can do is wait.
stone pilot
:blobcatsweat:
stone pilot
uwuwuwuwuwuwu
half flax
jovial pulsar
Is there a way to make it so that you spawn in public lobbies when you launch the game? Or is this just limited to private worlds?
median basalt
How do I see which email I registered with?
I sent out a moderation email and they just replied that I have to use the email I registered with in order to contact them and actually verify that it's me :/
Even though I submitted my worlds on that email too
pallid axle
has anyone recorded the udon developer stream? I kinda missed it 😬
median basalt
I don't think it happened yet, it was pushed back
pallid axle
oh really! thought they'd do another anouncement... thanks rokk
aaaand they did announce that. missed it. whoops! 😃
tranquil saddle
lads i need a morty companion to play vr chat with
chilly hedge
my steamvr home wont load 😦
broken terrace
hi guys
median basalt
Actually I realized that I effectively dropped down two trust ranks
I was "veteran" before (system_trust_legend) according to the API
I sent an email only to realize that I used the wrong email, so I had to resend another one. It's weekend too, ugh.
meager solstice
weird and u sure all that happened was u blocked a guy and he blocked u
median basalt
Yes, I am absolutely sure.
Keep in mind, the guy I blocked blocked me back while I wasn't even online. He was a modded client user and a known avatar stealer.
meager solstice
Maybe it’s just a bug, curious to see what ur email response will be
median basalt
I'm 99% sure it's a malicious act as I dropped two trust ranks after blocking a modded client user
Hopefully they'll take it seriously.
pulsar oracle
Anybody know when maintenance will be over?
median basalt
The trust ranks were a mistake. All it does is hurt avatar creators more and more. Most crashers I see are all trusted.
meager solstice
Technically the maintenance should have been over yesterday
median basalt
I blocked a client boi and got demoted over it, trusted users can crash, get banned, and remain trusted.
median basalt
Anything except New User, User and Friend was a mistake.
umbral reef
Its fairly intresting how i havent seen anyone defend the system the past few months in this discord 🤔
When it came out there where so many people defending it tho
median basalt
There's only one guy who still defends it so far
pulsar oracle
The maintenance this was just bugging me.
median basalt
People have accepted it as a fact of life even though it makes no sense.
The way you rank up is exactly like a caste system, even though it's supposed to be about how likely it is that you have malicious avatars.
umbral reef
Well we also accept stripclubs as a weekly activity within this game so that does not amaze me
median basalt
I don't get why removing avatars or removing friends would indicate that you are less trustworthy but here we are
System sucks and I sincerely hope this game gets a good alternative.
One where the devs aren't actively trying to poison the game.
Preferably a game that won't also affect my work by getting me blacklisted from Cloudflare
meager solstice
I mean that was just a bug
I’m not really for or against the trust system
My opinion it has no effect either way
median basalt
It has done exactly nothing to stop crashers and only hurts people
When I logged in on an alt account half the lobby had me muted by default
"Social" game btw
median basalt
I still see the exact same number of crashers, which is "occasional"
Most of them are trusted too
umbral reef
The worse experience i have had so far was starting up a new account 🤷
And even now that its a user rank its still less enjoyable then my other acc thats a rank higher
median basalt
Reporting them and getting them banned doesn't decrease trust rank which is one of the fundamental things required to actually make this work even slightly
Because the argument is "if a trusted user crashes people, he'll get banned and demoted"
Discriminating by rank literally doesn't affect your safety at all
You might as well block shaders for every stranger and not just User and below.
meager solstice
U know I’ve never seen rank discrimination
umbral reef
What rank are you Wigma?
meager solstice
User
median basalt
I've seen it with my own eyes, I joined a lobby as visitor and was muted by default for half the lobby.
Most people won't see your avatar effects.
If I display my rank as user, I can't communicate with anyone while being mute because they have everything disabled.
meager solstice
I’ve never once had any communication problems
median basalt
So now because the defaults block my shaders and particles, I cannot even communicate anymore when other people in the house are trying to sleep.
meager solstice
Actually... I’ve had discrimination once. But it was for the memes when they first implemented the system
umbral reef
As someone who has 2 accounts, one before all this jazz with a higher trust rank and one with also a user now.
I clearly seen it happen and experienced it loads myself. People telling me to fuck off when trying to chat them while they accept me on my other account.
People not even realizting they have my settings blocked (i prep my alts avatars for the system instead of how i want them) and constantly having to actively unblock things from me.
meager solstice
I can see the not realizing part, but since the system has been in place. I’ve never experienced anything like that.... guess I’m just lucky
umbral reef
Ofcours they wont go around blocking all users below a rank. Those guys stay in private worlds by now.
But being less accepting, without knowing having an bias against lower ranked users and having a prejudge against them as 'they are crashers' is a thing.
meager solstice
Maybe I’m just lucky....
median basalt
The colored nameplates were a mistake too
Too easy to discriminate even unconsciously
meager solstice
But I’ve never really had a problem being a “user” so far
median basalt
Also I keep getting comments about my glasses being opaque orange now
umbral reef
Imo thats the biggest part about the system. Just removing that would solve loads of the initial bias towards users.
umbral reef
Rokk, the reason its orange is because of your rank. If the system cant fallback it uses the color of your rank to fill in stuff so far i know 👏
median basalt
Yeah I know
The fallback is broken too, you literally can't fallback to toon shader
umbral reef
Whats actaully funny but so dumb in an user perfective.
meager solstice
I mean it’s pretty early access game from my understanding, lots of time to solve problems like these
umbral reef
Even if its early acess its bad to publish systems always in a 'beta' stage (they label the things like that themselves so...) and not touch it again for years.
They also have loads of badly documented things and problems. Them removing things and not looking for alternatives of fixes also is highly annoying.
median basalt
Early access isn't an excuse because this game will pretty much be early access forever
Not to mention it's also quite clearly fully released on the oculus store
And besides that, they don't intend to tweak this system at all considering they have ignored all feedback so far
umbral reef
Ofcours- The game is free, the devs only have so many resources and they are not coding wizards.
But properly planning things, taking it a bit slower but pushing things out and pushing things out 'right' the first time also helps.
median basalt
The game is horribly mismanaged
umbral reef
But for example. How long has the merging be a thing?
I only recently learned from a really well hidden VRchat support page that: All favorited worlds and avatars from your Steam account will not be transfered if your Vrchat account already has something favorited!
Why is that not listed anywhere ingame? We get loads of users complaining about that and it was Nr1 asked thing when the system dropped...
meager solstice
Merging accounts?
umbral reef
Steam to VRchat
umbral reef
Yes, but did they announce the thing threw between the `'s?
The system is well known, the flaw of avatars and worlds not moving with your information if you have anything favorited on the VRchat account isnt.
Or the fact they still have the warning of users losing ranks when merging accounts 🤷
Been there for months
hearty plank
when i merged im pretty sure i lsot all my friends that i only hadon vrchat and not on steam
umbral reef
Thats also another flaw but from what i understood its not the same as the two i listed above.
hearty plank
it even says friends and some other thing wil be transferred
meager solstice
When I “merged” to test it out I kept my friends
Now favorite worlds/models.... no clue
hearty plank
another thing is the friend section on the website doesn't work properly
same with the online friends in-game
umbral reef
It varries for everyone. But you see my point of how systems never get fully finished?
This also falls perfectly under what i judge as bad communication from the team.
I highly enjoy the steam and i love they do that but keeping there game information up to date would help just as much imo.
umbral reef
Like if you have a problem where do you go?
If you know about this discord i expect #vrchat-support but thats fairly limiting in support for most problems. Then we get to #user-support-old but if people like rokk and me (or other people who have been here for a while and actually know there things) give support its also iffy.
We also have there support email as we all know but in there full respect, they cant handle everything by email in both email count and problems (taking debugging steps and needing feedback to realize what is the problem).
We have a few other places VRchat provides and il have high respect for any non poweruser who can find those...
And its sad seeing all those users not getting help in other discords or being wrongfully helped.
Also, if someone does not like my word about this how about one the devs word before they where devs 👀
vocal shard
What's the keybinds for making hand gestures like pointing, ok sign etc for avatar animations and actions?
median basalt
Shift+F1-F8 on desktop
ember tinsel
Is there a way I can report people in the discord server?
queen mango
@ember tinsel
I think you may have to refer to this one: https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
ember tinsel
Thanks
queen mango
hushed harness
Qwantum use report ticket on vrchat
languid beacon
Can I get a mod to confirm is this type of DLL thing is allowed or not allowed by TOS? https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/bn8rpb/natural_gestures_with_index_controllers_in_vrchat/
ruby needle
This is propably something the team would need to judge on as it does hook into things
i'd not risk anything and wait for the natural implementation once the stuff originally releases
vocal shard
^
ruby needle
Ofc it might be a bit sad for those owning a press / preview release of it but that really is a minority.
I would definitely expect at least a gesture based support to come around index release time.
urban jasper
yeah, probably
still lark
@languid beacon It's not a dll that's in the game or injected so it's fine
at least judging by the GitHub readme
https://github.com/pushrax/VRC-Knuckles-Emulator
languid beacon
yeah the owner says it's allowed but i needed a mod to say it's ok before I'mma do anything so i'm gonna skip for now. thanks tho
still lark
Actually it does inject into the game. xd
ruby needle
if it does inject into it then nono
if it hook into OpenVR to intercept IO like playspace mover i'd belive its fine
still lark
ruby needle
Well, so much about that 
still lark
A shame really.
merry ermine
yo
solar coral
@ruby needle it uses that to get the PID but it injects openvr_api.dll and vrclient.dll
check dllmain.cpp
ruby needle
What it does is irrelevant.
When it injects into the main game it is a absolute nono.
Periode
solar coral
the hooked funcs are vr::VR_GetGenericInterface, vr::VR_GetInitToken, and GetControllerStateWithPose
could move this to injecting vrserver.dll but it's just less convenient
ruby needle
Im not a (good) dev and can't really dissect the code and know what exactly does what, but i can definitely say any hook directly into VRChat no matter it's purpose is a Absolute nono.
Hooks into OpenVR and such are fine.
solar coral
that is what this is, just only in VRChat's PID
ruby needle
"only"
solar coral
if you're familiar with how shared libraries work it would make sense
ruby needle
What you are getting from it and what for remains irrelevant. Hooking into the VRChat processes is a no go.
It's as simple as that.
inner cape
its just against tos, thats what he means by "big nono"
ruby needle
Especialyl if there is potential other solutions it's stupid to do 😃
solar coral
I don't understand, what's the difference? would be the same function pointers
ruby needle
same difference as looking trough a window to see the inside of a house or breaking in to see it
its the same inside
... (are you serious? :D)
solar coral
yeah I am... vrclient.dll is a shared library
solar coral
I just did this for fun so I probably won't bother spending the time updating it to replace the vrclient.dll function pointers from the server side, but I don't really play VRC anyway so it doesn't matter too much to me
ruby needle
It's nice to see this and a interesting idea. But you really should have done the other aproach from the start without hooking into the game it self.
Main statement remains tho.... official Index Controller support will likely arrive around actual release date so not much worth bothing with anyway.
solar coral
updated my comment on this on the reddit thread so it's clear you guys aren't on board with it https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/bn8rpb/natural_gestures_with_index_controllers_in_vrchat/en4d0i1/?context=4
still lark
add ?context=10000 pls
solar coral
I think as a kernel dev my definition of what "modifying the game" is might be different
still lark
smh having to re login because my IP changes. 😔
solar coral
as to me a library interacting with another library in one process space is the same as interacting outside that process space, but it's a convenient way to scope memory
rough pulsar
How difficult would it be to change it so it does its stuff outside of vrc's process space? That seems to be the main thing here.
solar coral
easiest way would be to do a kernel-level hook of LoadLibrary but that's way more sketchy
it could be done in vrserver too but I haven't worked at that layer before, and it's totally closed source from valve so it'd require a bunch of reverse engineering work
and another option is to do it at the SteamVR driver level, which wouldn't be too hard but it would be hard to prevent it from affecting everything instead of just VRC
ruby needle
couldn't you maybe detect wether or not vrchat is the current app in focus and bypass the stuff while its not?
solar coral
yeah, through some method like that it's doable
though at that point it's dealing with the raw device data, before input mapping
so it's quite a bit more complex in general
rough pulsar
If you can that'd be awesome, since no 'alteration' to vrc is happening, not even in the more fuzzy concept of shared libraries, and it might be useful for other stuff since SteamVR Input really doesn't give a shit about letting you do anything interesting with sending trackpad touch events.
ruby needle
it would also make it a reall good option if VRC dosnt have it ready by launch
solar coral
the other option is to straight up binary patch vrclient.dll
but I don't really want to go there
ruby needle
patching is never good and will break with updates.
rough pulsar
I'm guessing vrclient.dll is part of SteamVR/OpenVR right?
still lark
How close is it to OpenVR Input Emu?
solar coral
input emu is a driver hook, which is option 3. I mentioned above
still lark
cpp is disgusting to read
solar coral
I made OpenVR Space Calibrator too, which uses a driver hook as well
so I'm pretty familiar with it
but it's def more work
ah crap I'm running super late, this stuff is super interesting to me and I could talk about it forever :D, seeya later
still lark
Thanks for the information!
whole vector
do u guys think there might be a possibility to integrate leg trackers w the new oculus quest?
rough pulsar
Not unless you can somehow get the Quest running through SteamVR, in which case congratulations you've done something pretty fucking impressive.
still lark
just run a win emu in android and then steamvr, easy!
ruby needle
i wonder if and how well quest might work with the smartphone vr thingy
rough pulsar
Same as the rest I imagine. Works but L a t e n c y
supple acorn
Does anyone think vrchat would ever come out on PS4 😂 I mean, it would bring a lot of new users which would bring up the popularity of vrchat
still lark
Sony too strict for custom content.
supple acorn
I mean, if they agreed to fortnite cross platform then there is a small possibility that it could happen
near saffron
Doubt
broken gate
PS4 can't push 90?
vocal shard
there's a live overwatch tournament on ABC
broken gate
gg
lunar shell
I really don't see Sony allowing "private" rooms. Lol
vocal shard
its cool too
rotund jacinth
hm
civic talon
I've never had this issue before, but when I change from one avatar to another, my hands get frozen in place until the change is complete
vocal shard
is the game down for anyone else ?
urban jasper
I was just in and it seemed to be working okay
torn pelican
Video player is borked.
vocal shard
And it's gonna stay that way until they tell us they've fixed it
torn pelican
Nooooo.
vocal shard
Just watch youtube on your pc it's not the end of the world
torn pelican
It's with a group of friends.
whole vector
is oculus quest worth getting
umbral reef
No one will be able to answer that for you. All we can do is provide the pro's and cons that the system will have.
Also highly depends on what you want and for what you want to use it.
meager solstice
everyone has their opinions on it
urban jasper
The Quest is an OK option if you don't have a gaming-caliber PC, are just getting your feet wet in VR, or you want something portable to show off to friends
umbral reef
Just do the proper research as there are a fair bit of drawbacks for it compared to PC VR.
Loads are tech based but also platform and future based.
urban jasper
Yeah. The biggest downside is it's not as powerful as a PC-tethered VR setup, so you're going to miss out on a lot of content. And being an all-in-one setup, the software is going to outpace the hardware before long.
vocal shard
I got my Odyssey+ today and I had to fresh install Windows just so I can get Mixed Reality to work
MR is still downloading so I have to wait for that to be done
lunar shell
Quest is ok if you can deal with the limitations. I wouldn't buy it if you want to strictly play vrchat with it. I don't see how well it's going to work out when you're using it and all your friends go to a non-Quest world or a place with a bunch of avatars with no Quest upload.
I'd just get a regular Rift S, Odyssey+ or equivalant if you own a PC. Performance will be better and if you need to, you can actually do an upgrade vs needing to buy Quest 2, 3, etc.
vocal shard
Mhmm. If you have a capable PC and you are looking for one main VR device, I skip the quest for now
inner cape
quest 
stray temple
Wait to see Vive Pro Eye at least...
vocal shard
Foveated Rendering UwU
Plz become standard
stray temple
Hope Vive Pro Eye beat Index with spec...
vocal shard
Why?
It's the same as the old pro other than the eye tracking. The index is better in most other ways already
lunar shell
Yeah, the Vive Pro Eye is just the Pro with Eye tracking. Same headset basically.
I can't see it being less than $1000 for the headset alone.
vocal shard
I still think HTC should drop the og pro price. Just replace the Vive outright with the normal Pro. The main thing about the Pro was the resolution... But that isn't special anymore
lunar shell
They need to drop it a few hundred dollars.
vocal shard
More than that imo. The index headset is $500, and then $500 for the rest of the package. The pro should be objectively lower than the index
atomic tusk
just a heads up...update your nvidia driver since there's a big exploit that has been patched
lunar shell
They should but won't.
vocal shard
Yeah unfortunately
lunar shell
But used Pro headsets should become cheaper.
atomic tusk
I just wish the vive didn't have such soft lenses
lunar shell
Is that why mine got scratched from my glasses?
atomic tusk
my glasses scratched my rift lenses too but I could polish them out without any issues with simichrome but with the vive I got cloudiness and had to use vaseline instead
lunar shell
I used toothpaste on mine. Seeemed to do the trick.
atomic tusk
better off with vaseline since the lenses are really soft
vocal shard
My lenses are fine, but my glasses scratched. Oof.
Should get that fixed
atomic tusk
my rift scratched the pair of glasses I used with it
lunar shell
I don't wear my glasses in my headset anymore for that reason.
atomic tusk
I have to wear glasses or else I can't see
lunar shell
I'm better off not getting something like the HP Reverb. It wouldn't help me much with no glasses on.
vocal shard
Contacts? Or inserts maybe
lunar shell
I should get contacts but I'm lazy.
atomic tusk
I hope I don't have to wear glasses with the gearvr lense mod I ordered but I'm not holding my breath
eternal ingot
Does watching youtube videos work for people? It didn't work for me and for most people I tested on. It seems to be an issue with the youtube-dl.exe. It gives an error when executing it, it shows the path of hackerspanner (one of the devs?) project directory in the stack trace, which I'm sure shouldn't be there regardless. Getting the newest youtube-dl.exe helped resolving that issue for me and my friend. Don't know if it's a general issue right now.
@rose timber Looks like he is here too.
vocal shard
Anyone else that havong troble with geting disconected, sendt to the home world or to a world with just a note?
stray temple
Both encountered...
rose timber
We don't recommend using the youtube-dl.exe from the website as it exposes you to some vulnerabilities. Our forked version is locked down and safer, but you'll have to wait for the next patch to get the updated version.
dense knot
How can I change my oculus touch controllers so I’m always first person while moving? It shows me the blue arch and I see my body moving but I know there is a way to change it so I’m always first person. Any ideas?
vocal shard
@dense knot in the VRChat setting, change the locomotion. It's set to holoport right now. Uncheck that
dense knot
Awesome! Thanks!
vocal shard
NP 
ruby burrow
That conversation above about the older Vive pro needing to come down in price and replace the OG Vive is exactly what the market needs to fix it's lack of mid range options right now.
ruby needle
The vive pro is still not aimed at consumers
ruby burrow
Drop it down to $600 for the full kit, with either kind of lighthouses, and it'd be a perfect fit.
I know, but that's a choice of HTC, not an inherent attribute of the headset.
ruby needle
literally halving the price to make it a mid range consumer headset doesnt fit into it at all.
thats what im saying.
ruby burrow
Why not?
The price is entirely artificial, based on an outdated premium status that no longer applies.
ruby needle
there is more to it then pure hardware value
ruby burrow
The only thing giving it any relevance at all to enterprise customers right now, is that Index currently has supply limitations.
ruby needle
Again, there is more to it then pure hardware. Valve brings a whole license / support thing with the pro.
ruby burrow
The original basic Vive has also been made virtually extinct, "What should I buy?" discussions around the internet.
Leaving HTC with two dud products with no market.
Yes, I know, but that whole license support stuff could equally apply to literally anything. You could slap the same deal on a Lenovo Explorer, charge $800 and claim it's now enterprise and thus unsuitable for consumers.
I am saying that they should sell a consumer version without that stuff. The choice to include a service package is not part of the headset, it's something they've chosen to attach to it.
Basically, the public consumer VR discussion for new customers currently goes like this...
"Rift-S, Index, Quest, or WMR?"
It's a choice between $400 and $1000. One headset does the job but leaves a lot of people wanting that little bit more, whilst the other feels like reckless overkill for the vast majority of new comers.
If the basic Vive could perhaps drop to $400, it would compete somewhat via the superior tracking, but with a lower resolution and old strap design, it'd still be an unlikely choice for most.
coarse rock
^ I agree
ruby burrow
If the V-Pro came down to $600, that would be right in the sweet spot for people that are unsatisfied with the Rift-S minor but numerous short comings.
And it would be entirely within reasonable and realistic manufacturing costs.
ruby needle
you're litterally asking for half the price.
Why not just hald the index price 
ruby burrow
What's so strange about asking half the price of a headset that has been artificially doubled in price since day one?
A Samsung Odyssey+ can sell at a profit for $300, despite having a superior display using newer screen technologies.
broken gate
what do you recommend disabling?
vocal shard
Shaders particles and custom animations
broken gate
for up to what trust rank?
vocal shard
sure if you want
ruby burrow
For the most part, don't worry too much about it. It's annoying, but only a momentary nuisance that's quick to log back in from.
But for safety settings...
vocal shard
Also think about using a particle limiter
ruby burrow
You would either want to block shaders & particles, or just animations.
Blocking shaders and particles, will unfortunately make the game look pretty bad, but will prevent two out of the three most common crash avatar methods.
broken gate
Does this happen because of hardware?
vocal shard
No it doesn't have anything to do with hardware
ruby burrow
Blocking just animations will stop +99% of crash avatars, and all normal methods used. It will preserve the games looks, but you'll obviously miss out on seeing any custom animations.
Nah, it will effect any hardware.
broken gate
oof
vocal shard
No matter how good your pc is people can still crash you
ruby burrow
Also despite the trust systems intended design, there's not really any point blocking by rank. Since most crashers have been playing the game long enough to get trusted rank even despite their behaviour.
Personally I leave my safety settings on none most of the time, and just turn off animations if I feel like I need it.
vocal shard
I turn off avatars for visitors and just have avatars and shaders showing for the rest
vocal shard
Cause visitors don't have permission to upload so why would I want to see a bland public model
And most of the time they're using big avatars that are annoying
proven lion
Cant they choose avatars from worlds?
broken gate
what is the motive of these "crashers"?
ruby burrow
Being dumb kids.
vocal shard
They can choose avatars from worlds but I don't want to see an avatar I've seen hundreds of times
ruby burrow
You know the kind of person who wasn't loved by their parents, and thus only ever got any attention by behaving badly? That's crashers.
vocal shard
You aren't gonna win
broken gate
ruby burrow
Also the kind of people who would start crap in real life, but can't because they'd either get knocked out or arrested for it.
So they do it online in a game instead, since it's much harder to get punished for it.
vocal shard
@vocal shard K
vocal shard
Made what
ruby burrow
If you can screenshot or remember the name of the person who crashed you, you can still report them even once out of the game.
Check #moderation-reports for info how, and the email address.
You can look in your game logs, and use the search function to find and confirm their name.
vocal shard
Originally crashes were made as a way to get people to leave you alone if they were bothering you but also to hit pedos and other people who did messed up things
But now every skid and his mother has a clap so they've become misused
broken gate
where is the dump file?
ruby burrow
"a way to get people to leave you alone if they were bothering"
Yeah, that was never a defence for the practice in the first place, and only ever lasts one week no matter what the person claims.
In no time at all they start crashing whoever they feel like on a whim. Seen too many people make that claim .
vocal shard
Never said I was defending them
broken gate
I believe the theme was annoying tho
ngl, this looks sus
"2019.05.11 18:11:50 Log - [Network Processing] RPC called SceneEventHandlerAndInstantiator:_DestroyObjects:All and 7 bytes
2019.05.11 18:11:50 Error - Cancelling event because instagator was not valid
2019.05.11 18:11:50 Log - UserInterface destroyed
2019.05.11 18:11:50 Log - [VRC_EventLog] Event Log destroyed
"
ruby burrow
I've had a friend who claimed "I only have this to crash crashers". Lasted all of two days before using it on young kid who was just being a very minor nuisance, whom could have just been blocked or muted.
No one in the game has the right to remove a player for everyone else.
vocal shard
No ones saying they should
ruby burrow
Ok. I didn't mean to say you were. Just kinda clarifying my feelings on it. '-'
broken gate
except the VRChat team
ruby burrow
@broken gate I have no idea what any of the individual log lines really mean. They often look kinda crazy even when nothing suspicious happened.
urban jasper
So the whole "crash avatar" thing stemmed from what's basically vigilante justice
ruby burrow
But if you met a user, their name will be in there.
vocal shard
That's how it started pretty much yeah
ruby burrow
So it's allows you to search them and confirm the moment of the crash, so you can send it to the devs.
urban jasper
Makes sense.
vocal shard
A lot of people used to crash with that mindset more then you'd probably expect
ruby burrow
I once had someone jump over and crash someone I was enjoying talking to, "On my behalf" since the crasher mistook a bit of harmless mock racism (regarding my cyclops avatar), as the guy actually insulting me or something.
Was incredibly annoying.
urban jasper
well you know the old saying.. the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
vocal shard
Hell even I used to crash pedos back in the day but I don't do that anymore cause I don't need to
ruby burrow
Jumped in like a dumb unwanted guard-dog, "Don't talk to Squishy like that! Know your place", and then crashed him. ¬_¬
Even the spoken line made me uncomfortable. Don't need that kind of thing.
Have never seen the guy I was talking to again. Was just about to send them a friend request, but couldn't remember their name afterwards.
urban jasper
folks need to learn to mind their own damn business
median basalt
Man I miss the times before cloning and favouriting
When people would actually upload their own stuff
winter bobcat
vocal shard
Same rokk
atomic tusk
servers must be getting hammered again
urban jasper
i didn't do it
vocal shard
hi
Hey
im havah
I can tell
pleased to meet you
Likewise
im kinda new to this chat
Welcome
Have fun and don't question the weirdness
thanks, im kinda weird myself
Who isn't honestly
well, thats true.. sooo can you tell me what users do in this realm
Make avatars and talk
ahhhhh thanks. I make mine on paper
Nice most people who make models are also good artists
true.... im kinda shy soooo do you mind being my guard
No thanks i'm good
Appreciate the offer though
civic talon
🤔
civic talon
Yeah but my dick is bigger than yours so....
civic talon
Lolwut?
urban jasper
where the hell'd that come from
vocal shard
@civic talon im 19 but still feel young
civic talon
Lol
urban jasper
feel young, you are young
vocal shard
He spotted an e girl so he is performing his dance in an attempt to woo her
urban jasper
is it working
vocal shard
blushes
civic talon
Yeet
civic talon
Womp womp womp
vocal shard
@urban jasper sorry
civic talon
Apologies are for the weak
vocal shard
excuse me???? 😠
civic talon
😏 😘
vocal shard
its not funny ok
elder imp
Flirting much?
vocal shard
Flirting in the vrc discord is a whole new level of desperate lul
civic talon
I don't flirt
vocal shard
sighs
civic talon
I take what I want with the iron price
vocal shard
wth is an iron price
civic talon
...
vocal shard
civic talon
Iron price GOT
vocal shard
sighs again
queen mango
The whole conversation here sounds like it should be in random chat, mind you.
vocal shard
i have
vocal shard
mmmmmm
queen mango
The hell's an iron price?
civic talon
Have you never heard of Game of Thrones?
queen mango
No
vocal shard
who where what
civic talon
You may or may not spend too much time in VR :P
vocal shard
Over rated tv series don't worry about it
elder imp
Hello Elire
vocal shard
oh i know what it is. i was talking with elire myself since im new
elder imp
So how too join VRChat
vocal shard
Get it on steam
?
You have to get vrchat on steam that's where you download it
ohhh
civic talon
Any good tips on getting vrchat not to lag so much?
vocal shard
Get a better pc either that or turn off all avatars
civic talon
My pc is actually very good
I've confirmed that the issue isn't my pc or my resources, it's purely vrchat
vocal shard
Then that's why I told you to hide other users avatars
Also the servers are undergoing testing that's why the connections are so shaky right now
civic talon
I believe the latter explains it then
Because I'd vrchatI can't handle people's avatars then there's a serious issue
vocal shard
time for me to get flirtu
flirty
Do it in #general-media then
ok. who can be the most flirty
blazing anchor
is there a reason that its taking forever to log in, and not allowing me to join any world that isnt my home world? even a non/private instance of my home world wont work. im not sure if ive been banned for some un-known reason but ive not recieved any emails about it. im still able to upload the world im currently working on so i dont think that has anything to do with it.
vocal shard
@blazing anchor Servers are undergoing testing
blazing anchor
"Testing" on a server is normally done on private servers instead of the public ones, as a general rule of thumb for developers. lmfao. unless the devs dont care if they potentially destroy the ability for clients to function properly.
vocal shard
Does it look like the devs able to think that far ahead
blazing anchor
just giving them a little protip lmfao
vocal shard
Think they'll take it to heart lul
blazing anchor
psssh they never listen
vocal shard
blazing anchor
welp, i cant test my world because i need someone else to be able to join in, and i cant make a non-invite only instance.
and even if i invite people they cant load in either
civic talon
Matt is right, testing should be done on testing servers.
Doing testing on production servers is just ..dumb.
blazing anchor
oh ive hidden the area in the world. its the testing area. haha
i havent actually made the update easily accessable yet
considering that im making a puzzle that REQUIRES 2 people, i think its safe to say i need to actually upload the world to test it with a second person.
vocal hare
I've crashed a bunch tonight due to the testing so I just got off lmao
fast pollen
hmmmmmmmmmm
elder imp
Do u kno de wae
blazing anchor
i kno de fucking mai mai budda
queen mango
Ugandan Knuckles. Used to be everwhere like the plague back in late 2017 to early 2018.
The often say that line when posing as Ugandan Knuckles.
fast pollen
im dying
vocal hare
👍
warped thorn
I remember when three digits of players online was a lot.
civic talon
Reeeeeeee
blazing anchor
"posing: as a knuckle.
im always a fuckin knuckle. just not as toxic as the rest at most times. mainly chill unless the rest of de bruddas are around to get me into the mood.
civic talon
🤔
fast pollen
gay
blazing anchor
lol
blazing anchor
biggay is more appropriate.
fast pollen
mfg
civic talon
That's pretty fuckin gay bro
fast pollen
matthew gayy
vocal hare
giga gay
queen mango
Can we not?
blazing anchor
im big gay deal with it
fast pollen
gayyyyyyyyy
vocal hare
Can we don't
fast pollen
ooohhhhhhh he stealing
vocal hare
lmao
civic talon
queen mango
Read it then. Everyone does it on their first visit
fast pollen
k
civic talon
Jesus Christ you have almost thirty rules
queen mango
Just because this server has VRChat in it doesn't mean this is VRChat.
fast pollen
yes
vocal hare
🤔
civic talon
30 rules is too much, somebody is a snowflake lol
queen mango
It's called a Discord server for a reason. You can get the early access game on Steam for free
elder imp
Hello Elire
queen mango
'Sup.
vocal hare
Welcome to vrchat my dudeee
fast pollen
omg!
vocal hare
hit's a whip and nae nae
fast pollen
o.O
civic talon
It's been a very long time since I've been in a discord this strict before
vocal hare
lmao
civic talon
Goodness gracious I'm gonna have to behave
fast pollen
behave?
queen mango
Never heard the meaning of the word before?
vocal shard
Wack
civic talon
@fast pollen well yeah. If you think my behavior so far is how bad I get then yeah, I have to behave
blazing anchor
yay now i cant even load into my homeworld
civic talon
@blazing anchor log off
vocal hare
Vrchat is a magical game dude
blazing anchor
it took me 10 fucking minutes just to log in
civic talon
So magical
vocal hare
Full of me crashing and swear words
civic talon
Yeet
vocal hare
lol
blazing anchor
looks like vr chat has broken the gme agaiiiiiiinn!!!!!
vocal hare
wack
civic talon
Should've tested on a test server oops
vocal hare
Big oopsies
civic talon
With this many active users, I don't understand why VRC can't afford a test server tbh
vocal hare
🤔
blazing anchor
well if you hve a server that is running the same vrchat ervrer software, just not on sutch a lage scale, for just a few people, you could test it as a dev with a modified client that allows you to access said test server.
queen mango
As far as I know, they don't have a means of gaining revenue.
They're operating on investment money given to them by HTC 2 years ago
blazing anchor
they could add paid features or the ability to buy a custom rank or something. lol
civic talon
As long as I just sit and wait on the login screen and loading screen, it's really dumb for VRC not to have ads
queen mango
Wouldn't that add more losses in the form of advertising expenses?
civic talon
Ads don't have to be annoying, just an image or whatever
How so?
There are 8,000 active users right now, likely every one of then have spent what, 10-15 seconds on a loading screen at least twice, or even more.
That's a lot of ad views
You do understand how ads work right, Elire?
Sorry that came out condescending, sorry
blazing anchor
hell, i know so many people i could probably just get a sponsorship to play this game and advertise the company with my avatar. lol
civic talon
You only pay for ads if you're the one placing your ads on other platforms
Instead you'd be putting ads on YOUR platform
queen mango
Unofficial advertising. Hit-or-miss results. Risky, despite only requiring your own skills.
blazing anchor
how great. i finally loaded in, and instead of going to MY homeworld, i go to the default one.
austere pecan
Are the videos still broken?
solar coral
@rough pulsar I like your idea. I might start working on an OpenVR Advanced Input Binding program that lets the user define arbitrary declarative conditions on analog or digital inputs to trigger specific analog or digital outputs. Would give it enough flexibility to configure knuckles support in VRC. If you think of other use cases, let me know, so I actually end up being motivated to do it, because it’ll be a lot of work and I’m not sure if it’s worth it yet.
The way the current emulator is implemented is way simpler and more elegant as far as the knuckles VRC case is concerned
rough pulsar
@solar coral I definitely think such a thing would be useful beyond VRC too.
During my adventures in SteamVR Input, being able to map chords to certain things (like trackpad touch at a specific region) just isn't an option and I'd say something that can bridge that gap would be great for other games/software too.
solar coral
If you come across specific instances feel free to message me
slate verge
why is it that some people have some really nice voice with communication, but when it comes to texting...they feel completely different?
buoyant palm
Anybody else having issues with the video players in VRC?
rough pulsar
Difference in speed, text stuff is more atomic (messages come in blocks rather than an interruptible stream), lack of verbal context such as tone, etc. This all adds up and makes text communication compared to speech different.
mossy atlas
hey where can i submit footage of extremely toxic ppl to have them banned
queen mango
You can send them through moderation@vrchat.com
rough pulsar
@mossy atlas http://help.vrchat.com/new
slate verge
makes sense
coral kraken
anyone know how to fix being stuck at spawn in tons of maps?
i can walk around, lock into full body, but to others im stuck floating at spawn
hidden cloud
i need help in #avatar-quest
vestal sleet
hello
https://gfycat.com/windyshrilldove
anyone know fix to this (portal doesn't work)
vocal shard
so is vrchat video broken for all of you
hollow horizon
For some reason it won’t let me load in to a world
It just stays loading for ever
vocal shard
what do u mean no lower buddy?
small wing
I have two lower buddies, but they are just fine. 🤔
that was a horrible joke i'm sorry. it's late i need some sleep lmao.
You gotta go into safety settings and turn on avatar's for people.
hollow gazelle
no safety is the og vrchat experience
umbral reef
I still run without the safety feature and have yet to be crashed.
The particle limiter solved more for me then the trust systeem 🤷
But that's just mine experience
still lark
@umbral reef Wanna change that? 😉
umbral reef
No thanks
vocal shard
VRchat should implement a way to write a custom description about a friend to remind yourself why you friended them.
placid zealot
Does anyone know any avatars worlds with Breath of the wild avatars? I've had a hard time finding them.
junior quiver
Is it possible to change your username?
primal spear
hey i kinda did an oopsie and just bought the oculus rift controllers and sensors without the headset because i thought i could use an app on my phone. is there anywhere on ebay where i could just get the headset without shooting a hole in my wallet
i looked it up and it shows the whole package
i dont need the controllers and sensors
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oculus-Rift-Headset/173896249026?hash=item287d062ec2:g:OUUAAOSw89lc0Y5e would this be it? the cheap price is shady
but theyre still so expensive
only option since returns are a no-no for what i bought is to beg the sellers to cancel them.
thats okay
languid beacon
Definitely would not recommend buying a classic rift anymore regardless. Rift S is a straight upgrade, since they confirmed external sensors will be supported in the future.
Unless you have a very outlier IPD
primal spear
hmm if i can cancel the orders, ill look into the rift s
oh wait woah woah way out of my price range
i have a laptop sO
languid beacon
400?
primal spear
under $300
languid beacon
You’ll spend more than 400 trying to get a classic rift and all the accessories.
urban jasper
Unless you wait a month or two after Index hits.
Then you'll probably start seeing used ones going for relatively cheap
primal spear
languid beacon
True, people will be trying to pawn off rifts after that, just buy your own face plate if you don’t want lice / pink eye / eye herpies
primal spear
cant i get a rellacement lining
urban jasper
Yeah, definitely. Replace that, without question.
primal spear
oh i will
languid beacon
Personally I’m still going to keep my rift even after I have an index, I need something I can sweat in for beat saber. Not a fan of sweating into a one grand headset
urban jasper
I'd personally recommend a facepad with leather. It'll be a lot easier to clean than the standard foam
hollow gazelle
lmao lucky
it may be easy to clean but try and take leather off your face after a sweat session
stone pilot
I'll probably sell my Rift soon, VRChat just isn't fun anymore
Too many bugs, & no game changing updates that bring fresh content, including worlds being so limited without scripting support
rigid crescent
urban jasper
I enjoy just chilling out somewhere and people-watching. It's funny to me to see what people get up to
primal spear
hmm does it seem silly if i can only move my head 
im usually mute in vrchat and communicate by drawing or moving my head, with ivry i think itll be easier to convay with what im saying at least a little
still lark
@stone pilot Do you want a rootkit because that's how you get a rootkit.
umbral reef
Udon tho
pseudo basalt
Udon 2028
slate verge
tfw someone dm's you in another language > don't know what to do and don't want to insult them either
polar rose
google translate
slate verge
ew no
polar rose
i've had entire conversations through it
rough pulsar
It'll at least tell you what language it is
polar rose
it's not that bad
primal spear
dammit i cant find a headset only
winged coral
Hello there forgive me for posting this in the wrong channel I'm not even sure if this is possible but a friend of mine had his account compromised and all of his avatars are gone is there anyway to retrieve those avatars? I.e can they be restored to his account?
vocal shard
Doesn't he still have all of the unity projects for his models @winged coral
He could just re upload them if all else fails
winged coral
I would have to assume not. I was just wondering if there was like a cache that held those models or something similar since they were on his account within the last 24 hours.
hushed harness
unfortunately no if its favorited and its just basic avatar and got compromised you cant recover it 😦
urban jasper
Only way to get them back is to remember where you got them from and go back to that avatar world.
hushed harness
oof vr chat is still laggy
winged coral
Ah gotcha. Most of them were personal but i believe he lacked the original files. Regardless Thank you for the quick answer! ❤
hushed harness
i'm sorry this happened quite often on people nowadays.
this is why i use steam acc with a phone login
vestal sleet
@primal spear I think this is a opportunity to consider a WMR headset. With the higher res
vocal shard
If testing is going on for this long i'd say they're having problems with ddos attacks
urban jasper
that seems to be a relatively frequent issue for them
vocal shard
Cause they don't have good protection against it
sterile glen
hes still around even tho i reported him
vocal shard
People don't just get automatically banned after you report them
don't throw around accusations with no proof in this server people in here don't witch hunt
sterile glen
you're right, but its something that happened to me
ruby needle
No Name shaming especially with such a BIG claim and zero prove
sterile glen
im sorry im just
vocal shard
Throwing around accusations you're right you are
vocal shard
Then block him there's your problem solved
sterile glen
i did
vocal shard
So where's the problem
sterile glen
but for some reason i still saw him running around
vale palm
no idea whats going on~
but youre indicating that ppl arent using modified clients
the amount of times i blocked ppl and they didnt realize it and talked to my friends as if they still saw me
So if AAA was talking about a rather toxic user, i wouldnt be surprised
vocal shard
Who said anything about people not using clients
cold ibex
Better to block then waste your time 🤪🤪
vocal shard
exactly
@vale palm I have no idea what point you're trying to make
i thought when u block someone it only blocks them from like contacting u?
like if u block someone in a game u can see them running around but u cant see their messages and they cant see yours
cold ibex
No it blocks them, you can’t see them ???
plush cove
Did valve release sdk for the index controllers?
If so then it would be awesome to implement that in vrchat
alpine crater
They had a basic implementation test a few weeks ago, it's animator-based rather than using the raw input data though
and the VRchat devs wanted the new network IK working before that iirc
plush cove
So they are working on it?
queen mango
Now that is pretty interesting.
lunar shell
Maybe but even if they do, that's what 2022?
hollow breach
IDC
I’ll be waiting
People said it wasn’t gonna happen, not gonna work with oculus tech or it’s unlikely
Well guess wut, it’s happening :3
languid beacon
interesting vid, but man, Facebook is really thinking most people just want to be a hyper-realistic version of themselves in VR. That's really. Not the case.
lunar shell
I predict it won't happen for Facebook for a long time.
Once sensor is not enough either.
ruby needle
dont underestimate wip stuff
kinect is like a toy by todays advancing in the recognition field
umbral reef
AR funny enough pushed this tech far already
ruby burrow
Well the thing that was said before was that Oculus' constellation based tracking was incapable of doing full body, which currently is likely to remain true since they've discontinued that form of tracking tech.
The new methods they're pursuing are very interesting though.
I posted that video around quite a bit on the 1st of May.
I had already been wondering ever since seeing the old Kinect used in VR-Chat, whether advancements in that field might eventually replace both the idea of using additional trackers, and eventually inside out tracking entirely.
I've said before in game to people, that someday everyone will have full body, and with better quality too.
Early adopters of FBT need to enjoy getting to feel fancy whilst it lasts. : P
covert linden
@bold solar with a regular vr headset its just hands and head
But your body turns if your head turns, if you crouch irl youll crouch ingame etc
But any tilt or movement of the body is all IMU not actual tracked movement
Your mouth moves when you speak ingame. Theres no headset thatll project your face movement in vrc
ruby burrow
Right now can only use gestures to accomplish that.
Although I do like to add a simple "mouth open slightly" gesture on point, which can be combined with all others.
coarse parcel
Guess I'm getting an Oculus Quest on launch day. Never played VRChat before, and ready to suffer the lack of polygons and high def textures. 😛
I was waiting carefully for the right moment to buy a VR headset; one that was self contained and free of wires. I hate wires. 😃
Real excited to join the community along with thousands of others.
cerulean sluice
How the hell do i speak with people on microphone
vocal shard
hey
surreal jasper
Hold or toggle "v".
covert linden
@cerulean sluice speak
vocal shard
hi @covert linden
cerulean sluice
huh
cerulean sluice
okay
vocal shard
can u guys help me
covert linden
Depends with what
vocal shard
i am looking for my friend
cerulean sluice
I enabled it
covert linden
Then speak
I dont understand why you dont know how to speak.. like whats the issue is your mic not working in vrchat?
surreal jasper
Press v until the circular red icon fades
cerulean sluice
yeah but what button to click
covert linden
V as a few people have said
cerulean sluice
i click v and it just leads me to typing it in chat
covert linden
You cant type in vrchat
cerulean sluice
oh god im such a noob please dont hate on me
surreal jasper
🤔
hollow breach
stares intensely with hate
vocal shard
@surreal jasper hello
cerulean sluice
-dies-
covert linden
I dont understand how it makes you type in chat if there is no text chat in vrchat
surreal jasper
Im more curious how you got vrchat onto a chromebook
cerulean sluice
im fucking confused
covert linden
Are you on the right game?
hollow breach
🤔
covert linden
I think vrc runs on chromebooks at a sexy 11fps
hollow breach
😍
vocal shard
@surreal jasper can u help me
cerulean sluice
uh lovely?
covert linden
First off are you sure youre in vrchat?
cerulean sluice
it says "vrchat-gerneral" so uh yeah?
covert linden
cerulean sluice
general*
surreal jasper
@vocal shard whats up
surreal jasper
can install vrchat into a chromebook
cant press v
vocal shard
@surreal jasper im looking for a pal of mine
covert linden
This is discord not vrchat
surreal jasper
@vocal shard mhm?
cerulean sluice
uh
covert linden
You cant voice chat in this discord.
vocal shard
@surreal jasper his name is bully here
covert linden
Why do you wanna voice call with someone so bad
Vrchat isnt a discord its a game
@dark narwhal read up u may enjoy this
cerulean sluice
okay chill m8
surreal jasper
I think we're just being trolled
covert linden
surreal jasper
So what do you wanna do? Talk in discord or talk in vrchat the game
covert linden
They wanna talk in this discord chat ig but the vrc discord has no voice chat
Youll have to join a server with voice chat rooms
cerulean sluice
Okay HOW do i do that?
vocal shard
sighs
covert linden
You.. join another discord and peep to see if anyones in voice calls ig
surreal jasper
Find a channel with a speaker icon. Then click the name of the channel
Itll have a number like 0/99
Indicating how many people are in that voice channel
cerulean sluice
uh
ruby burrow
This server doesn't have any voice chat channels presumably because it's far too big to moderate them, and perhaps also to encourage people to talk in the game instead.
Most other discord servers will have some kind of voice chat.
covert linden
vocal shard
i need some help
covert linden
With finding your friend..?
vocal shard
correct rea
covert linden
We sadly cannot be detectives and hunt people down for privacy reasons
languid beacon
Clara probably isn't trolling. They aren't the first person who has tried to join VRChat by joining Discord, and not the first person who has never heard of Steam before. Please be nice. This isn't unusual. Happens a lot.
vocal shard
its ok rea. ill find him soon
covert linden
They wanted voice chats here not to play vrchat
ruby burrow
Do you mean BullyHunter maybe?
surreal jasper
Press @ then type bully if you wanna find em here i guess
Are mentions not allowed?
vocal shard
@vocal shard i need you
ruby burrow
@languid beacon I have wondered what different paths lead people here sometimes. Or to the game itself. Because it can be surprising the assorted knowledge gaps some occasionally have.
(Although your entirely right about being civil and understanding with them.)
@vocal shard You can also DM them, if you've found the correct name.
vocal shard
i did already...
surreal jasper
Good luck
covert linden
If they dont wanna talk maybe respect that
Im not sure of the situation but thats usually how it is when people ping their friends here
ruby burrow
The one I wonder the most about, is when people somehow find their way here without actually knowing what the game is. Not having seen nor played it.
vocal shard
mmmmm thats true
ruby burrow
How do they get here?
covert linden
Its on the discord reccomended servers page
ruby burrow
Remember the guy who wanted to launch some nonsensical business venture within VR Chat? Something to do with scanning his room?
languid beacon
VRChat attracts non-gamers, and gamers that simply don't PC game and don't have Steam installed
vocal shard
sighs
languid beacon
Yes I was there for that one too lol
covert linden
I was in the shower for over and hour because it was too entertaining
ruby burrow
The kind of innocent ignorance I like the most regarding this game, is when you find those people who have installed the game for free on Steam, without either ever having seen it nor having any idea what VR itself is.
surreal jasper
I need a way to use my arms in desktop mode even if its some surgeon simulator nonsense
Gotta pat the lolis
covert linden
You cant
languid beacon
Well I think they see it on a Twitch stream and have some casual knowledge of what it is and what it can do, maybe mixed in with some older concepts of things like Google Lively, Cloud Party, or the movie Ready Player One.
ruby burrow
Those ones can be amazing to interact with, simply because of the sheer mind blown reactions they sometimes give. 🙂
covert linden
My favourite is people who comr claiming vrc will 100% be on mobile soon
ruby burrow
This one guy just couldn't get over the fact that my friend and I were moving our arms and gesturing when talking to him.
covert linden
XD thats awesome
languid beacon
Yeah I have friends who just don't want to be seen playing VRChat on discord for some silly social reason, but once I convinced him to just get on and let me show up my VR rig, he was like "ok. I get it now."
covert linden
I love the game on desktop more than vr tbh
languid beacon
I can't go back to desktop
ruby burrow
Was the best. The gradual realisation and explaining stuff one thing at a time.
Him starting with lines like, "Wait, so how do you move your arms like that? I can't find the controls", or something like that.
covert linden
Im tryinf to sell my brand new rift for the S, Before I try getting into vr more. I use the wmr atm and so its worth using every other time
languid beacon
show him someone in fullbody and his mind would blow
I have a rift personally, i don't wanna upgrade to S.
My eyes are waaay outside it's supported IPD
covert linden
I need roomscale and I cant achieve totally freeing roomscale with the rift
No thatd be horrible
languid beacon
I have roomscale fullbody with oculus and vive trackers. what's giving you the problem?
covert linden
Tis best to get a pc oriented vr
ruby burrow
I played desktop mode only once ever, and can't really imagine it myself.
It's different for each individual, but I simply don't have the personality for it.
covert linden
I need extendors and adhesive to have even half as much space as ive got with the wmr
languid beacon
I see. I guess sensorless tracking can spoil you in a way
covert linden
I dont have ant conviently placed shelves..
surreal jasper
The bindings to use emotes on desktop mode are pretty awful
covert linden
No theyre not
languid beacon
I've never had it, myself. It sounds nice, but S's lack of IPD adjustment is a showstopper for me. The rift S just wasn't designed for my face type
ruby burrow
Like, I'm by no means a mute, but I'm not the fastest at thinking up responses for things. And somehow the extra expression of body movements is what I need to fill those gaps.
covert linden
I have the wmr and I personally adore inside out tracking
surreal jasper
LShift+RShift+Fkey? How is that not ass to use?
languid beacon
Desktop anything isn't exactly a focus, at all, @surreal jasper
surreal jasper
The regular number keys arent doing anything are they?
subtle prawn
On my laptop I need to do Shift+Fn+Fkey 🙂
stoic halo
i need to do the actual hand gestures 😔
covert linden
Man I wish. Wmr.controllers are just thingies
surreal jasper
@stoic halo lol at least you have use of your arms
stoic halo
pesky arms 😔
vocal shard
will someone help me quick
inner cape
what is it
zealous quest
vocal shard
well, i wish i knew my friend for real. but i only know him on here
covert linden
If he doesnt wanna talk its sorta harrassment to force it
inner cape
so whats the problem
surreal jasper
Best keep it that way
inner cape
wha
ruby burrow
If you've DM'd them already and haven't gotten a response yet, there's not really anything the rest of us can do.
inner cape
am i not seeing a message here or something
vocal shard
thanks squishy.......
ruby burrow
(They were trying to contact them earlier Ghosto)
inner cape
aaah
vocal shard
@inner cape dont worry i got it
inner cape
didnt see it, my bad
ruby burrow
Unless you've got any ideas how, the best we could do would be mass DM them saying "Answer Havah", and I don't think that would actually help at all. ^ ^;
Would only annoy them.
inner cape
thats basically a raid
ruby burrow
Although they were online earlier, or last night I think.
inner cape
which is bad
vocal shard
trueeeeeee laughs at herself
surreal jasper
Just wait till theyre back
vocal shard
i agree