android-discussion

[naive bluff]

There's your problem.

[flat kite]

I hate being on a moto phone at this point

[naive bluff]

RAM booster is just grabbing your storage space to fill in the blanks.

Onboard RAM can't be added.

[flat kite]

I have only 4 outside of the boost :(

[naive bluff]

Yeah, that's what I mean by "there's your problem". VRChat Mobile requires minimum 6GB.

[flat kite]

Checking all my phones now...

[white thistle]

Guys I just want to make sure of something, is there someone who's mic is working just fine?

[warped thistle]

hiii

i need some help, i have a xperia 5 mkV and on VRC android i have issue with the mic, my volume are really low (it's difficult for the other to ear me) and in vrc i have put the sensibility at the maximum, how can i fix that ?

[white thistle]

Literally same as my issue, don't know how to fix it unfortunately, I already made a bug report about it for the devs to see, but no response yet.

Oh, nvm, you were the person who commented on my report.

[warped thistle]

yes

[warped thistle]

okay x3

[knotty wind]

wrong channel, please go back to #other-games with that... 😞

[white thistle]

Wanna talk about the issue in detail?

[lone hatch]

I was trying to play on my Samsung Galaxy A15, but it says that my phone wasnt supported for that version.

[warm tide]

I'm representative of all people that cant afford to pay for Age verification,Pls for the love of god Give access to verify age PLS without vrchat + PLS

[visual moss]

What's the problem with putting $9 into vrchat? Plus it's a pretty effective way to check for a refund

[visual moss]

Besides, this has nothing to do with vrchat mobile

[lilac delta]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-prince-charles-ew-it-smells-so-poor-in-here-poor-smells-poor-in-here-gif-25996196

[warm tide]

I don't have bank account

[visual moss]

Go do it, or wait until you reach the age where you can do it.

[shut scaffold]

Not mine

[native igloo]

yeap, out of beta

[rare pollen]

When oh when can I play TwT

[native igloo]

once you change phone as it looks. if it not has enough RAM.

[rare pollen]

I'm on a galaxy 15a

Idk if that's good enough

[native igloo]

if you model has only 4GB of RAM, not likely.
If you have 256GB of Storage, that one has 8GB of RAM so it can be ok.
Better check with CPU-Z kind of app.

[rare pollen]

Huh?

[native igloo]

search it.

[rare pollen]

Ok

[rare pollen]

Ok?

[native igloo]

I think it's written on device tab

or system

[rare pollen]

Ok

[native igloo]

unfotenately, you only has 4GB of RAM so.....need to change phone.....

[rare pollen]

I'm broke atm

[honest dove]

When can Vrc come to all iOS? I have an iPhone 14 Plus

[naive bluff]

It needs to at least have 6GB of onboard RAM to be accepted.

[naive bluff]

Also, #ios-discussion. This is Android.

[feral badger]

Maybe the VRChat Home is too heavy for my smartphone. 1's Optimised Box played just fine at 30 FPS.

No crashes from being out of RAM.

Tried VRChat Home again just in case it was a bug that got fixed, but crashed again.

[honest dove]

Sorry

[white thistle]

Oh, so it WAS a mutual problem, I thought I was the only one who has it and was about to go insane, thanks for reassuring me.

[unkempt aurora]

Hey everyone here im on android play vrc and it runs smooth like they said and I may still be on beta but it still runs smooth. I have had other users try to lag me out but it didn't work so yea I just wanted to let you know my experience the best I can explain it

[sweet sluice]

🥳 out of Beta baby lets gooo!

dont spoil it for the people not here though!

[fierce lion]

I still think there should be a setting that forces landscape mode so I dont have to switch my phone to auto rotate every time I play mobile

[wild delta]

Is their a way to have my moc on always?

[torpid drift]

Only if you’re using an external mic

[wild pebble]

Doesnt do tje best job here. (Fold 7)

It forcibly rotates when it really doesnt need to, sometimes causing menu issues.

[shut scaffold]

You fixed it?

How?

[white thistle]

No, I said "was" because I wasn't sure if it was or was not a mutual problem.
Didn't fix it but made a bug report about it like a week ago-.. Devs didn't respond yet..

Also cause of garbage English, excuse me for that.

[royal gulch]

Are you not able to change your profile picture or background rn

[naive bluff]

?

[royal gulch]

I cant change my profile picture on vrchat bru

[naive bluff]

Are you looking to change it to an already-uploaded image or add a new image? 👀

[royal gulch]

No i wanna use something from my gallery, but the button litterally won't click

[soft tangle]

Yes, I can confirm that from what you said! 😆

Here I just playing around with new feature that they finally add, Depth of Field effects aka Focus on Quest and Android mobile.

Here's the result #vrchat-pictures message
This effects makes VR Photography more fun now!,

[unkempt eagle]

I'm downloading vrchat mobile

[quiet crag]

Could anyone help with this?

[native igloo]

your phone likely not has 6GB of RAM (Not storage) so may need to change phone.

[quiet crag]

How do I check?

[native igloo]

put CPU-Z app

[native igloo]

yeah, you only has 4GB of RAM so you need to change phone.

[quiet crag]

Somehow on my mums old phone which I used as a backup was able to get VRChat on even tho It was Android 12 and now went into a boot loop lol

[fading sky]

Allow us to view all the very poor avatars

My phone can take it

(S23 ultra)

[soft tangle]

Are you sure about that? Even my S22 Ultra laggy as hell without very poor avatars if you visited very crowd place (at least no game crashes occur so far)

[heady sparrow]

2 fps is definitely handling it

[soft tangle]

I bet 5fps is minimum as possible but never lower than that

[heady sparrow]

for the fps indicator probably

[soft tangle]

Yep, I still can move around freely but it consuming more battery than usual, also running way slower than everyone else due heavy performance (lag) while heading the same path

And for the record, S22 Ultra battery last 3+ hours playing VRChat only

It's quite impressive that it could hold much longer for 1 hour extra than VR Standalone self

[dusty sleet]

I just play in Samsung a20e

And im getting new phone redmi note 14 with 8gb and 256 storage

Can I play in redmi note 14 if is supported

[cosmic fox]

Cries

[white thistle]

We're all crying bud... We're all crying..

[naive bluff]

F

[soft tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021

[visual moss]

Help please. I have sent a bug report related to moving and scaling the face mirror. This bug has been going on for many updates and the developers are completely unaware of this problem. Everyone is silent. I would be grateful if you put more reactions to my report.

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/3a9b50

[desert yoke]

I'm on mobile, and whenever i started vrchat, i could not see a single persons avatar unless they're using the same one as me, other than that, they're just blue diamond guys and it says "Too many avatars" above their head when their avatars are loading, this is making me annoyed, if someone could help me that'd be amazing.

[acoustic sorrel]

Is there any way of playing on an iPhone?

[naive bluff]

#ios-info

[hollow rapids]

Now I'm forced to use the shitty versions with the screen switching everywhere this platform is officially fucked now

[acoustic sorrel]

Alr thanks

[soft tangle]

I'm really want to ask this question, how do people changes camera mode like this #vrchat-videos message? I've visited few MMD world but the camera didn't change as I wanted

[white thistle]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/extremely-low-microphone-input-volume

Guys if you're having the same issue please upvote for the devs to see

[visual moss]

It's just that these mmd worlds are not configured for quest/android, but I know a couple of worlds where the camera works.

[soft tangle]

So that's the real reason why camera just stuck like that? It's not fun to watch our avatar dancing with view like that…

[visual moss]

Unfortunately, initially mmd worlds were made only for PC, there is very little quality on quest/android

[visual moss]

Look at these worlds, tell me your opinion

[visual moss]

I checked the PC version of this world, there you can make a third person view, change the location and the camera works without problems, but on android there is none of this. Here perhaps questions to the creator of the instance

[soft tangle]

Never visit both of this world, but I will be visited there later

[visual moss]

In general, look for mmd worlds by the author "PineCone", the camera should work well there, but they are also not very high quality

[fading sky]

I can take it.

[unkempt eagle]

I have a VRchat mobile

[white thistle]

Uh, cool I guess?

[torpid delta]

The camera still hasn't been fixed

[soft tangle]

If you have a PC and the webcam, Selfie Expression are now available for everyone and no VRC+ required! #open-beta-announcements message

…will be available on live update soon.

[native igloo]

ah android

[soft tangle]

I know some people here have a PC but enjoyed playing more in Android mobile for a reason.

And I don't have PC yet… lol

[warm tide]

Wait MELAYU bang

kontol bang kontol

Wooooohooooo9oo

[soft tangle]

Ya, Melayu bang haha

[warm tide]

Gile la Furry melayu

[soft tangle]

Setakat ni aq sorang je furry melayu, orang Malaysia kat sini pun ada tapi bukan furry la. Melayu? Belum tentu…

[warm tide]

Aku furry jugak

[soft tangle]

Well, I've visited world that you recommend and…

It's really awesome to see my avatar dancing with view like this and also really high quality! ✨

[visual moss]

I was wondering how your face tracking camera works? It used to be fine for me. But lately my phone has been getting very hot and FPS is dropping due to face tracking. Has anyone else encountered this problem?

[wet sorrel]

Turn off the Auto Adjust Selfie Expression Quality

[eager swift]

RAH

[warm tide]

AAAAH

[visual moss]

There were no updates to Vrchat mobile, but somehow my performance has magically increased significantly and my phone has become less hot while playing vrchat and using face tracking. Maybe it's because I uploaded my avatars with the updated vrchat SDK? Yeah, I know, it sounds weird... Although maybe it was just an update to some other third-party apps that helped...

[warm tide]

Do I ask?

[soft tangle]

I've gained from New User to User rank today 🎉

[wet sorrel]

Congrats @soft tangle

[soft tangle]

So I got a new device today and did a little test performance with VRC. It runs very well so far but I haven't tested at a crowded place and heavy worlds yet…

More information about the device

[wet sorrel]

Upgrade very nice

[soft tangle]

First VRC performance stress test with new device at Tube VR club in full capacity (80 people) and heavy world

[soft tangle]

Not really an upgrade but more like downgrade because it's a mid range device

But for weird reasons, game performance did a bit better than the S22 Ultra in some situation

[wet sorrel]

I did start testing vrc mobile while in Alpha on a Samsung A52 with 6GB RAM. Main issue was mic.

[soft tangle]

No game crash occurs during this testing

[soft tangle]

What device do you use currently?

[dusty sleet]

Can I play in poco x7 without pro or something

[naive bluff]

Does it have at least 6GB of onboard RAM? (boosters do nothing)

[wild pebble]

Is this new?

[vale edge]

with you 35 other friends

[heady sparrow]

ngl that be how I talk

[heady sparrow]

the widget existed for a while
the rat? I think thats since april

[wild pebble]

I mean that message in specific from them

Never seen the rat say that before, though I haven't been on Android much until 2 weeks ago

[heady sparrow]

I think they update it to add more funny messages that basically achieve the same few things

[wild pebble]

Ah I get that

[heady sparrow]

one being telling you how many friends are online

[wild pebble]

Got them to say some more

[soft tangle]

I've noticed something odd about graphics, this video will explain more

Feels like the game had bloom effects for a moment but we already know the Quest version doesn't have this feature (removed)

[dusty sleet]

It have 8 gb ram

And 256 storage so it can run or not

[naive bluff]

Phone model?

[dusty sleet]

That what I said poco x7 without pro or 5g

[naive bluff]

Yes.

[dusty sleet]

Can it run smooth

[naive bluff]

See for yourself?

[dusty sleet]

I DONT have

Im gonna get in Christmas

But I think Dimensity 7300 Ultra can smooth run the game

[timid hearth]

yo

[visual moss]

I've noticed a section on some maps for a long time now. These must be some special functions when creating quest maps.

[native igloo]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/all-world-sound-effects-play-simultaneously-vrchat-android-phone-version-issue
huh...

[soft tangle]

I also have a similar issue like that. It happens when opening the keyboard for chat, scrolling down status notification and screen recording (in some device options will pop up)

[native igloo]

interesting

[wet sorrel]

I only had it happen in my home world but after closing the menu

[midnight umbra]

Good Day.

I use a mobile device with 8gb of ram and a chip equivalent to a Snapdragon 888.

Recently i login, almost if not all avatars are the default safety gray avatars. Unlike before wherein i can see all avatars and unoptimized ones are Pixelated.

would like to know a solution to this. Thank you.

Update, I open the Android App on a Snapdragon Elite Phone with 12gb Ram.

Avatars are shown normally. Checked the settings. its the Same on my last device. Avatar opti, Safety, Shield, Etc. Hmmm i wonder whats the issue.

[sacred canyon]

I just started this game tonight and it's fun but I can't hear anyone lol

[soft tangle]

I think it happens on every highly detailed worlds

In the video, I can't say if the water is supposed to look like that while the forest one doesn't look foggy and lighting before the camera opened

[warm tide]

Stop criticize vrchat man

[barren field]

It looks like the depth buffer is being enabled when you pull out the camera, something that water edge foam / fog shaders rely on to work.
Usually this is enabled for the player by using a Directional Light built into the world with a very low intensity.
I believe it gets disabled if your pixel light count is set to off in graphics settings and could be what's causing this to happen.

[soft tangle]

Definitely not pixel light issue or particle effects, but more like game graphics itself

[soft tangle]

Are you talking to me? 🤨

[visual moss]

What are these worlds?

[visual moss]

I'd like to know the names of both worlds. Also, could you please recommend some truly beautiful worlds, as there aren't many on Quest...

[soft tangle]

Left: Lake Metsa
Right: Furality Luma Crystal Forest

[visual moss]

Thanks!

[soft tangle]

I'm still exploring beautiful worlds but here's my best one

• Lake Metsa & Silver Falls (Summer Forest divided and port for Quest)
• Black Fire
• Cozy Calm

[teal rock]

I wish I still had my android

It broke and now I have an iPhone

[copper sparrow]

Hey so like it says it’s not suitable for my device on my other phone

[torpid drift]

Your device requires 6gb of physical ram

[copper sparrow]

What does that mean😭

[drifting forge]

How can I turn my phone into landscape mode?

[stark gust]

I did a funny

[obsidian rock]

how would one get vrchat on an apple iphone?

[copper sparrow]

How does one complete such task

[torpid drift]

Wait for the public release on the App Store as the TestFlight is full

[obsidian rock]

are you aware of when that may be?

[torpid drift]

The latest iOS beta build looks to be gearing up for a release, so it’s fairly soon now (within a couple months if I’d guess, still speculation). No one here knows the release date and VRC hasn’t announced anything regarding it

[obsidian rock]

ok, thank you verry much

[white thistle]

These ones I like the most

[visual moss]

Thanks!

[white thistle]

Oh, you said "on Quest" didn't pay attention to that but I think some of them will work.

[thick fjord]

Try run vr chat on a nokia please

Or blackberry

By any chance.

[thick fjord]

Howd your phone broke.

[teal rock]

Someone hit it out of my hand

[thick fjord]

Oh sorry to hear that

[soft tangle]

1 week later after I got a new device and…

Surprisingly, it could last more than 3 hours playing VRC only, much longer than the S22 Ultra!

[stark shard]

Emmm no se si es normal?

[white thistle]

This does happen sometimes... I just reset the game, quite annoying though.

[stark shard]

Y entonces que hago?

[white thistle]

Just so you know I don't understand this language but I use translator, basically, I just have to reset the game and it works fine (until the next time it doesn't..) so this isn't a permanent fix.

[stark shard]

Ósea lo borro y lo instalo de nuevo?

[naive bluff]

English?

[hollow rapids]

I beg yall to please fix the screen rotating issue on here, it's annoying as hell

My laptop is unreliable cause I'm poor and I'd rather deal with that than this

[white thistle]

English please if you could, even the translation is messed up now.

[lusty estuary]

Anyone wanna play? About to get online

[visual moss]

Is anyone else having these problems on vrchat home?

[thick fjord]

Try gran turismo 4 on your mobile

It is a awesome game.

Racing master isn't fun in my opinion

[soft tangle]

You mean Assoluto Racing?

[thick fjord]

Sorry no

Ps2 emulator

Infact what phone you're using it might run 60fps

[soft tangle]

I haven't tried using an emulator on this device yet but I will see

[thick fjord]

Okay, download aetherxz

Best app for ps2 emulator

And download zarchiver

That's what I used.

[visual moss]

???

[thick fjord]

I don't think I ever had a problem like that in vrchat.

Does it affect your gameplay?

[visual moss]

No, it's only on this map and it happened quite recently, a couple of days ago everything was fine

[obsidian rock]

does anyone know how long untill vrchat is avalible on apple iphone?

[visual moss]

Ah, everything's fine now. It was due to internet issues, and a VPN helped solve the problem.

[bold vapor]

Why do i get jumpscared everytime i go to my control center

Or exit my keyboard

[soft tangle]

New update, new feature added: Exposure! ✨

[versed portal]

Pink water is the best

[versed portal]

bro how 💀

[white thistle]

Uh.. Why does my menu look like this?

[soft tangle]

It's more obvious VRC definitely have graphics issue!
https://vrch.at/6dx9jjmk

I'm gonna make a report about this soon…

[visual moss]

New bug, you should stay away from the mirror and other people's avatars while opening the settings

[visual moss]

Are you planning on filing a bug report? I've noticed for a while now that most worlds look much dimmer than the preview screenshots...

[soft tangle]

I've done make a bug report!
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/graphics-rendering-issue

[frosty kayak]

naked menu

[brittle cypress]

I love this lol. One of my test devices is a Jelly Star and it looks so funky on the teeeeny screen. Gimmick phones are neat and I'm always tempted to impulse buy when they are up to spec as well hehe.

[visual moss]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/e24b98

I'm so glad that the developers listened to my report!

[native igloo]

I would say better add English translation on it...otherwise no public knows what is about.

[visual moss]

It's automatically translated, isn't it?

[native igloo]

(it is.....but it is poor quality so many people simply turn option off)

[visual moss]

I translate everything into my language and I don't see any problems; the developers understand and respond to my concerns. However, what I write in English is unlikely to be understood by anyone, since I use a translator.

[native igloo]

DeepL be your best friend forever. (better than Google) for you next time.

[visual moss]

I know about DeepL, but Google Translate is more convenient for me.

[native igloo]

up to you...

[silent gyro]

vrchat on my phone runs extremly good

oops

Acidentaly deleted vrchat mobile

i hate gaming hub feature

[sweet sluice]

oopsies

[flat shadow]

Hey everyone back once more to ask if male avis for android have gotten more common or not?

And if so where can i find sum decent ones? Or atleast okay ones

[naive bluff]

#1138520828556890214

[flat shadow]

Ty

[flat shadow]

Ye I dont think anyone can help. It seems noone wants to make avis for mobile and honestly im not sure hot to sense the avi makes doesn't work on mobile

[naive bluff]

Did you make a thread?

[flat shadow]

I did yes

But ive looked at other people threads and 8/10 threads dont get any replies on them

[naive bluff]

Yeah, it helps if you have an idea of what you want, rather than casting a wide net.

[flat shadow]

Is that better

[naive bluff]

You can also check Prismic's.

[soft tangle]

First attempt running VRC via GameHub emulator and…

It kicked me out to the main menu after initializing and I really had no idea how to setup compatibility

[naive bluff]

👀 What is "GameHub"?

[soft tangle]

I found out about that app after this video showed up in my YouTube recommendation https://youtu.be/GT-jnov4ESo?feature=shared

[naive bluff]

Yeeeeeah, no. There's a native VRC app in the Play Store.

[soft tangle]

I know that lol just try out new stuff

But the good thing is that there is no need to rely on GeForce cloud gaming, pay the service and queue just to play this game or any other games

[sly abyss]

I got it on my Nintendo Switch but I don't have a photo

[gusty echo]

open it in desktop mode

it should work

[visual moss]

I never knew there were worlds with items like this on Quest...

[sharp imp]

What world is that?

[visual moss]

Sensory Loft

[sharp imp]

Oh okay, thanks

[soft tangle]

The only thing we could wish for is to have hands tracking on Selfie Expression but it won't happen for the mobile version

[visual moss]

Unfortunately, yes, it is unlikely that they will bother with this, and it will be extremely inconvenient to implement, so we have to make do with such methods...

[soft tangle]

Have you ever wonder how's your avatar looks like from PC version? This is what I discovered recently…

Avatar Used: Black Muscular Rexouium
Left: Android/Quest
Right: PC

Ignore the Fallback/Imposter, that's not the point I want to share here. People in the meetup see me no clothes visible entire time during meetup. It's embarrassing when I see the photo tbh

[visual moss]

Well, it all depends on how sloppy the authors themselves are with some avatars. If it's an avatar from the search room, and if there's no way to optimize their version for Android, then it's understandable that we'll just have to guess. I was really annoyed by how carelessly some authors treated the Quest versions of avatars.

[visual moss]

Some people are even too lazy to make a proper imposter for the Quest version, which can be done in a couple of clicks...

[wet sorrel]

Most likely the toggle for clothing doesn't match exactly. Having one letter capitalized on PC, and lowercase on Quest can affect it.

I did use imposters, but I like my mouth visemes moving on my custom fallback.

It is personal choice

[soft tangle]

I don't have a PC to clarify but when I ask how this happened, here's the response from Rexouium creator…

[soft tangle]

He really cared about it, especially his avatar creation

[visual moss]

Well, I finally reached the final rank of "Trusted User" playing exclusively on my phone! Two VRC+ subscriptions, a year of active play, exploring numerous worlds, spending 2-3 hours a day in VRChat, friending over 50 players, and uploading numerous avatars. This rank was actually quite hard to achieve.

[naive bluff]

Hell yeah!

[soft tangle]

You have over 50 friends? I only have 9…

[soft tangle]

I think you remember when we took a photo together after Furality Closing Ceremony. It's very embarrassing when I see the photos of the avatar I was using lmao

[wet sorrel]

Understandable.

I got one avatar which has the Magic Circle System on PC, but it was too much for Quest. So things appear on the PC side, and not the Queat side.

[analog cloak]

Bro anyone able to tell me how to make my screen stop rotating

[soft tangle]

Just comparison graphics between VRC (Android/Quest) and Cluster (Android) in the same world

VRChat (Android/Quest)

• No (realtime) shadow
• Dynamic lighting not really good

Cluster (Android)

• Realtime shadow
• Better dynamic lighting

[visual moss]

I've noticed for a long time that Cluster is more developed in terms of worlds, lighting and shadows, while Vrchat/Quest have few worlds with truly beautiful and detailed lighting. Why are there such strict limitations in Vrchat?

[soft tangle]

Both of these games are using Unity Engine, yet Cluster did a lot better than VRChat. That's the part VRC dev never gets for Android/Quest version.

I forgot to add, Cluster also have Post Processing and Bloom effects support in some world

[visual moss]

I used to play Cluster, but I quit because it was mostly Japanese and there was no one to talk to. In Vrchat, for example, many worlds are too dim and poorly lit, and the previews are often simply deceiving. I rarely found truly beautiful worlds, and lighting often makes all the difference.

[soft tangle]

I only play Cluster when I can't enter PC only world like Summer Forest, Mountain Lodge and Black Lotus for example.

And yeah, most of the players are Japanese and hard to find foreign players, so can't blame them because Cluster game made in Japan

[hollow rapids]

can you please link that world especially considering it works on android that looks really cool

[soft tangle]

https://vrch.at/23fpge9j

[hollow rapids]

Thanks

[inner tide]

When will the feature of changing the input mic be added

For some reason when I'm using my default mic it works perfectly and clearly
But in VRChat the default mic is Soo quiet

[inner epoch]

Does anyone know how to fix the auto rotate glitch on mobile vrchat? It constantly switches to portrait and landscape and I can't find a way to fix it.

[next topaz]

kinda odd that i updated vrc and now it says that "your hardware doesn't support this version" but before that it ran just fine

[naive bluff]

What phone do you have?

[hybrid tendon]

Is anyone else having issues with the upgrade account as its not letting me get past the first page

[next topaz]

a motorola

[heady sparrow]

thats the brand yes but what phone

[soft tangle]

Real-time shadow experimental! 🔦
It's an old experimental world, you can try out in this link - https://vrch.at/wc4c5xd4

I wish this feature was not disabled for Android

[white thistle]

Do devs really fix any problems on mobile..? >.>
Or they just take a while to do it?

[visual moss]

Yes, they do fix it. The main thing is to file bug reports... They've already looked at several of my reports and made fixes.

[burnt burrow]

Will they fix the bug where some avatars are not at 100% resolution? Because some avatars are pixelated, and this happens even though my phone is very good.

[naive bluff]

What you're seeing are "imposters", they're low-poly representations of the avatar itself in order to save on memory.

Your phone may be "very good", but VRChat is a completely different beast that can devour your memory if you let it.

[burnt burrow]

So I'll never be able to see these avatars in good resolution?

[naive bluff]

You can, just... be very cautious when doing so. I would suggest showing one or two avatars if you can help it.

Like, with the person you're interacting with.

[burnt burrow]

And how I do it?

I only play with one person, and that person's avatar is pixelated. If at least that person's avatar was normal, there wouldn't be so much of a problem

[naive bluff]

What phone do you have?

[burnt burrow]

POCO F5 Pro

[naive bluff]

Which variant?

[burnt burrow]

global version, 12/512

how will this information help?

[naive bluff]

More memory = better performance.

[burnt burrow]

Okay, but how do I show an avatar completely like you said?

[naive bluff]

To see hidden avatars on VRChat mobile, find the user in your Quick Menu and select the "Show Avatar" or "Eye" icon under the Avatar Display section. You can also try to manually change your performance settings in the safety menu to a lower minimum rank to view avatars with less performance, though some may still be hidden if blocked.

[burnt burrow]

Uhm... Thank you, but the case is about increasing the performance of an avatar and about seeing that avatar without being pixelated, even if it is only the avatar of one person

[naive bluff]

Did you read the whole thing? It's listed right there.

The second bit is just extra info.

"To see hidden avatars on VRChat mobile, find the user in your Quick Menu and select the "Show Avatar" or "Eye" icon under the Avatar Display section."

[burnt burrow]

Even with this "Eye" option, the avatar remains pixelated

[naive bluff]

Take a screenshot.

[naive bluff]

Okay, you're still seeing the imposter. Did you follow the instruction on how to show avatars?

[burnt burrow]

Yes, but even so, nothing changed, I've tried on other maps too with anyone I saw, and the only thing I could do was hide that person's avatar, but even showing that person's avatar again, it was still pixelated

[sand bronze]

How do I add my own skins to mobile?

[burnt burrow]

Isn't there a way to make the avatar of just one person without being pixelated? Or will I have to wait for a future update?

[chilly mango]

Samsung S24FE, still having mipmap corruption + sound issues when using onscreen keyboard or swiping to notifications panel
(warning, second video is loud!!)

[burnt burrow]

POCO F5 Pro/Global Version 12/512, All other players' avatars are pixelated no matter what I change in the settings. I wanted to know how to fix this, or how to at least make just one person's avatar look normal.

[soft tangle]

In the settings, it just allowed very poor avatar access. Here's how to enable them

The limit is 4 very poor avatars including yourself (total of 5)

Just tap on the player to open their profiler

[burnt burrow]

So I'll have to wait for an update that allows for better quality avatars?

[soft tangle]

No need update! The update about this feature already released early 2025, so it shouldn't have any problem

[burnt burrow]

So there is no way to remove this pixelation 💔

[soft tangle]

Unfortunately yes

You just had to manually open to see very poor avatars players

[burnt burrow]

I hope they fix this in the future

[soft tangle]

Anyway, You should try it by yourself like I show you in the video. Just multiple taps to open (due to old bug not fixed yet)

[burnt burrow]

I tried, thank you bro

[naive bluff]

Honestly, you're better off seeing these than showing everyone's avatar (on mobile) because you WILL run out of memory if you do.

[burnt burrow]

the guy from moments ago showed this bug and it worked, that's enough, ty all

[torpid drift]

They're impostors, not a bug. Would be impressive if impostors were entirely a bug

but no, this is just how mobile platforms will render people's avatars until you forcefully show their avatar

[visual moss]

So much explanation had to be given because of a bug that the developers couldn't fix for multiple updates, but when there were any problems with the store, the fixes were immediate...

[naive bluff]

???

[wet sorrel]

It is still limited to 4 very poor avatars. So can't show every very poor avatar like Quest until Quest shows Too Many Avatars safety measure.

[gloomy shell]

Boo

[heady sparrow]

Literally none of that is a bug?
There is literally a limit put into place so you can only show 4 very poors at a time
What you see instead is the fallback/imposter

[heady sparrow]

"Better quality" you mean unoptimized

[heady sparrow]

This is because of the fact the avatar isnt optimized
You arent allowed to automatically show very poor avatars
You can only force show 4 at a time
This is in fact not a bug in the slightest but a safety feature to make sure you arent stupid enough to crash yourself because you think your phone can handle unoptimized avatars

[visual moss]

Previously, you could turn on a very poor avatar by clicking on the eye just once. Now you have to click on the eye multiple times to turn on the avatar.

I don't think it should be like this...

[heady sparrow]

It only really does this when you hit your limit

[visual moss]

I've seen this happen with the latest updates in all situations. It happens to other people too, even with more powerful devices.

[heady sparrow]

Device power doesnt matter since its a hard limit

[chilly mango]

not a bug, these are impostor avatars which appear in place of an otherwise very poor performing avatar. you can click them and force show their avatar, but be aware that youll run out of memory and get worse performance by showing them

[chilly mango]

(speculation) probably should find yourself an optimized avi now, they won't be increasing performance ranks for a while, im sure. vrchat is very focused on simply getting the game running at a good frame rate in an average 40 player instances first. expect to see them continue to limit very poors

[heady sparrow]

You used to not even have access to very poor entirely

Be glad you can show 4 of them

[visual moss]

Personally, I've never had any problems with very poor avatars, but finding a really high-quality and beautiful avatar with normal functionality below the very poor rating is quite difficult.

[runic nest]

Hello

[wet sorrel]

Very poor was only available for 10 days during Alpha for only yourself. Then the months of no very poor. Then we got the A/B tests around December 23rd last year. February is when we got the official 4 limit.

Having your avatar be synced to your fallback's structure looked awful. Thanks to the official website, I could have others see my very poor avatar, while I only saw my fallback.

[chilly mango]

do not you think thats a little excessive?

at this point id just wear my fallback :p

[wet sorrel]

It was a beta test, and it only affected me, and no one else.

Oh! And the ones who said to just accept it is what it is now.

[serene acorn]

guys is there a way to repositionate this camera tab? i mean, fix it on other place off my screen or in the game world... (ANDROID)

[ivory drift]

Why did bro specify android in the android chat

[serene acorn]

just in case

but do you know how to do what i asked ?

[soft tangle]

There's a festival that is ongoing right now that I attended and I wish VRC would expand capacity from 80 to 120. It really sucks to see from the live screen only with horrible hologram quality

[torpid drift]

Voice chat if the limit does go up

[lilac delta]

120 on a phone? Damn and even on an android phone lol. Feel bad for it

[lunar prairie]

Sooo who else lost their binding for trigger

[soft tangle]

Yes! Believe it or not, during the Furality convention they did that on their main instances with capacity like that and it works for mobile lol

[chilly mango]

i joined the 200 player instance last year, managed to actually keep okay performance 😭

[wet sorrel]

It was 300 for 2024 Furality Umbra. But I got in 186, but not 128

[soft tangle]

Yep, Furality last year with player limit like that was insane for one main instance even though I don't have VRC yet at that time.

[wet sorrel]

One of my streamer friends had everyone shown while streaming and in full body

[elfin talon]

When is vrchat mobile coming to iOS

[naive bluff]

#ios-info

[soft tangle]

Great moment in VRChat today!
I was not expecting to meet @visual moss for the first time when spawn in the home world

[visual moss]

It was nice to meet you, I recognized you right away and decided to come over 😅

[soft tangle]

Yeah, me too! I feel weird at first when someone comes to me really close until I see your nameplate lol

[next topaz]

a moto g1 something idk

[heady sparrow]

if it is that then you dont even have the minimum requirements to run the game

[next topaz]

yeah but the funny thing is it actually worked in previous versions

[heady sparrow]

its a miracle you even got it to run to begin with

[next topaz]

Yeah I have screenshots of when it still worked

[heady sparrow]

like if you dont have the minimum specs you cant even download it from google play

[next topaz]

yeah

Here's a screenshot for when i first got it

[real cloak]

Got bored
Had my friend send me the vrc APK
Tested it on a 2024 moto g play

Runs decently

Somehow

Vrchat
The next doom

[visual moss]

I'm fine. Were you able to solve the problem?

[soft tangle]

Fortunately, yes! Turns out, the face mirror is not working because before that happened, I did connect with the controller (Playstation) and UI automatically hidden.

After the controller disconnected, I tried to enable Selfie Expression but the face mirror did not appear. That's the problem starts! Unfortunately, I had to reset the game data to make it work again

Now it's working again as usual, just please don't use the physical controller 🎮 even it's cool and easier

[soft tangle]

We hangout together… again 😁

[visual moss]

Oh, you take such great photos.

[visual moss]

Can you please tell me how to achieve such photo quality? 😅

[drowsy quest]

I know Android has had to use separate URLs for YouTube videos, is that also the case for soundcloud?

As is I have a video player on PC that plays SoundCloud, but Android and Quest do not.

[real cloak]

This budget phone runs okay

I wonder if it could run on an LG Stylo 3

[soft tangle]

Hehe thanks 🥹
I'm not a professional nor amateur photographer, but this is how I do when capturing the photos

The photos

Since Depth Field effects are available for Android, it makes me take a lot more photos than before. The photo quality is fantastic!

[visual moss]

Thanks!

[soft tangle]

My candy codex so far…

[knotty wind]

can join me if you want one of each 🙂

[zealous wave]

Wait you can play vrc on phone now?

You learn something new everyday I guess

[visual moss]

Vrchat mobile has been available to everyone since the end of 2023.

[visual moss]

You can also get one candy from me

[soft tangle]

Nice!

But I'm currently in a Nardoragon meetup so might do later

[knotty wind]

#android-announcements message

[wet sorrel]

True true. But very poors weren't officially released until Feb 2025

[light light]

yo, can i? xD

[long depot]

How do I play vrchat on my phone

?

[heady sparrow]

download it from the playstore?

[long depot]

Ok

[solar sedge]

help！！！

Why can't I log in? The account and password are correct

☹️

[odd heart]

VRChat is down

https://downdetector.com/status/vrchat/

[faint aspen]

aws is down

[west sail]

See #server-status

[faint aspen]

https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

[pulsar gale]

Vrchat is down?

Not peak

[old path]

Ya, its down, due to the AWS outage we believe,
try again every 30 minutes from now, or keep checking #server-status for when it gets operatonal again

[soft tangle]

So VRChat depends on AWS for the whole time?

[old path]

certain parts of VRC has some dependencies to AWS ,
i would assume (without knowing too much more than is said in status and what ive heard others say)

[soft tangle]

That's surprising me a lot

[vale edge]

How's that surprising you? They use AWS Cloudfront.

Vrchat uses numerous services. It's not just some random server rack in a garage somewhere. When you connect to a vrchat world, you're reliant on multiple servers connections for different services.

Cloudflare, AWS, Photon, etc.

Login info, API, content delivery, synced data, etc use different services.

Both cloudflare and AWS Cloudfront among many other aws services are affected and vrchat relies on these.

[soft tangle]

I see… That's why VRC always has issues with their service provider

[wet sorrel]

I just logged in, and was given that message.

[neat flume]

I got that lol

[vale edge]

Patience

[warm tide]

Patient

[warm tide]

I will destroy your lussy

[white forge]

Tag me when it up

[gray orchid]

So um my friends from vrchat mobile are all gone

[white forge]

Damn

[old path]

just keep trying every 30 minutes,
there is no ETA on fix,

They are working on fixing, but its external service provider (AWS) that was the main issue for a while

[warm tide]

I lost all my friend

[knotty wind]

no... just restart the app now
see: #server-status message

[soft tangle]

Looks like we need to adapt a new menu design in the next update soon…

At least for the Launch Pad, while the rest remain same

[heady sparrow]

Aight who froze the source game

[warm tide]

Nuts

[wintry citrus]

On iOS😭✌️

[plush escarp]

I’m having some problems with my vrc url bc it won’t let me do anything when I want to type something and it never opens idk how to fix it

[rose parcel]

Having issues with credits :/ bought 2400 for the event bundle and I haven't received them. I have it shown on my play store history but not my vrc purchase history

[warm crane]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/android-xr-build-of-vrchat

[inner sedge]

If there’s something I love about VRchat mobile is that although there are no graphics settings and compared to PC it’s dialed down, the devs haven’t locked it to 30fps like most mobile ports, but rather made it optional. I hope it stays that way

[magic token]

https://www.samsung.com/us/xr/galaxy-xr/galaxy-xr/buy/galaxy-xr-256gb-silver-shadow-wi-fi-sm-i610nzsaxar/
Considering the headset just came out like- not even yesterday, I assume it's still going to take a while, albeit not too long to get a port up and running. (I hope)

I thoughts on the headset itself aside, having more places to play VRChat is a net positive for everyone, regardless of what some nay sayers will protest at me with.

[knotty wind]

#ios-info and #ios-discussion

[lilac delta]

Dude it's brand new, way to early for bugging staff for this lol

[soft tangle]

Finally, I got a Halloween badge! 🎃

[soft tangle]

That's definitely the flagship VR headset!

Slightly bigger RAM than Pico 4 Ultra with 12GB of RAM, and better performance. Can't wait to see the review when it comes out soon!

Unfortunately, it's much more expensive than the headset we have currently.

[lilac delta]

1799usd seems a great price, I'm considering getting this in the future

[magic token]

Controllers are sold separately, so you'd have to rely on hand tracking to get around. Besides, only around 100K of these are being made for an audience that is not game focused. Realistically unless more Android XR headsets start popping up, it's going to be hard to justify atm dedicating resources to developing and managing another platform. It's been 2-ish years and we still haven't seen a VRC port on the Vision Pro for example for various reasons, IOS still being in closed beta, demographics and userbase size being three reasons why.

PSVR2 port when

[inner sedge]

I’d argue it’s very prohibitive. It even surpasses the Valve Index and the Vive counterpart, which were considered absolute top of the line

Yet costed about half of that

[lilac delta]

We are 2025 not 2019 anymore, things cost more now

[inner sedge]

It isn’t really a good thing

Things cost more for the same or lower quality

[lilac delta]

Pricey yea, but fairly priced compare to the vision pro 1/2

[inner sedge]

I’ll get myself a a Quest 3s with a link cable and then try to make some other body trackers work with it. Should get the job done for a quarter of the price

A friend of mine still uses the Rift S

[lilac delta]

That's fine, but some want premium tech. This xr device is just that. But vrc support won't be for the near future xD. I currently use a quest 3

[inner sedge]

Yea nothing against that. Premium tech is great to have and lasts longer on paper. Cheaper stuff is usually made to be disposable

Think of cheap phones. They just don’t last before becoming sluggish

Gotta go now. See ya later

[obsidian rock]

how dose one download vrchat on mobile android devices

[knotty wind]

#android-announcements message

[obsidian rock]

has the app been released to the public?

[knotty wind]

yes...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vrchat.mobile.playstore

[obsidian rock]

thanks, and sorry if i was annoying

[knotty wind]

you are fine

[rugged trout]

hello i have a question regarding when vrchat will be supported on other wireless devices more along the lines of if theyll be able to be ran on an moto g 2025? if it will at all ?

[lilac delta]

other wireless devices???

[rugged trout]

phones, tablets,ect

[lilac delta]

all it need is 6gb of ram, oh and android 10

but not running android 10 in 2025 is a crime

[rugged trout]

ik a razr flip phone works but its not supported on most other phones

[lilac delta]

sadly moto g (2025) only have 4gb of ram

[rugged trout]

well that's a bummer ive been trying to get my sister into playing but every phone theyve tried doesnt seem to be compatible

[lilac delta]

all i can give for tips is next time you buy a new android phone, do not buy under 6gb ram, even iphones ship with 6-12gb now, and they are always way behind in ram

[rugged trout]

alright thank you so much

[young crag]

Guys how do I fix avatars from being so laggy and pixelie?

[visual moss]

Go to the person's profile and click on the "eye" icon multiple times.

[upbeat vortex]

I updated the mobile vrchat and other keeps crashing ive even tried uninstalling and reinstalling and it keeps crashing im on a s25 ultra

And help is very much welcomed

[versed knot]

Can u help me with the candy codex

[knotty wind]

i am here right now: https://vrch.at/7myb8c44

[upbeat vortex]

Is there a reason for my continuous crashing

[naive bluff]

I dunno, you tell us.

[upbeat vortex]

Figured it out it was my avatar

[vestal radish]

Wheres the ios version?

[naive bluff]

#ios-discussion

[vestal radish]

Thank you

[soft tangle]

Well, looks like iOS has entered the chat… for real this time!

[wheat dagger]

um hi i need help...i have an Android 14... Is that higher than an Android 10?

[naive bluff]

Yes, but your phone must also have a minimum of 6GB RAM.

[wheat dagger]

ok

where do i find the ram?

[naive bluff]

What's your phone model?

[naive bluff]

Why did you DM it to me? 👀

[wheat dagger]

Because it would not allow me to send it here

[naive bluff]

Ah, you likely got Dyno'd for caps.

[wheat dagger]

yep thats why i dmed it to you

[naive bluff]

Do you not know the model name? I looked up the name you gave me and it came back as a "Hot Pepper" phone, which I have never heard of beforer.

[wheat dagger]

yeah i have never heard of it until i got it

[naive bluff]

Do you know which variant it is? Looks like there's two: Serrano and Chilaca.

[wheat dagger]

can you show me what they look like?

[naive bluff]

Does yours have a teardrop front-facing camera or is it all one flat bezel?

Either way, your phone is HORRIBLY underpowered.

[wheat dagger]

its all flat in the front

[naive bluff]

https://www.hotpepperusa.com/serrano ?

[wheat dagger]

it must be the other one

[naive bluff]

Like I said, either way, your phone is HORRIBLY underpowered.

[chilly mango]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/corrupted-icons-and-textures-on-some-menu-elements
made a canny, id like to see if anyone else is getting this issue!

[chilly mango]

tldr: this

[wet sorrel]

Just checked, and no don't have the issue. I have S23FE

[chilly mango]

didnt have it on S20FE either, happened after switching phones. weird!

mines is exynos 2400 w/ samsung xclipse 940

[manic silo]

yes

[soft tangle]

Do you guys have issues with the Simple Fishing world? This thing keeps showing for the first time and multiple times now. It's really annoying that I can't enjoy fishing!

[flat kite]

Quick question, why must it be 6gb ram? I'm just curious cause it doesn't seem right

Also, Im trying to look at my Galaxy A03s

Realized it won't work.

However, what Androids work then?

[heady sparrow]

what doesnt seem right about 6gb ram for a game that used to be pc only with exclusively ugc?

[flat kite]

I would've thought it would run for a little less ram..

[heady sparrow]

you are expecting far too much from a phone

if the game content was exclusively controlled by the devs then sure

[lilac delta]

Quest 2 is the base for VRC, and the Quest 2 have 6GB ram

[flat kite]

Ahh okay I didn't know that so ^_^

[naive bluff]

Base for mobile version*

[lilac delta]

you can play VRC on windows under 6GB?

[naive bluff]

On PC, maybe.

[lilac delta]

oh damn that would be horrible xD

[heady sparrow]

if you force limited the game to take up less than 6gb of ram
you could only really exist in a world that is just a flat plane that you can collide with and no avatar loaded

opening the menu would instantly kill you cause of the funny unity ui bug

[wet sorrel]

I had a friend run desktop at 4gb, and he was lagging very bad in most worlds and crashed.

[inner sedge]

It doesn’t have to

It can run on as little as 4GB of RAM, but expect a terrible experience

Especially if your phone also has a weak processor

[heady sparrow]

can it run? barely
is it even remotely good? no

[inner sedge]

No doubt

But if I can give hope to the guy, I will

[heady sparrow]

majority of the time itll crash while you are trying to load a world

[inner sedge]

3GB of RAM did that. Unfortunately my devices with 4GB are on an unsupported Android version, so I can’t test them

Though I’m confident they should be able to load the smaller worlds

[heady sparrow]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[inner sedge]

I’m more upset by the RAM requirement on iPhone. You can’t bypass it there, and iPhones historically managed while having less RAM

For example iPhone 11 Generation can’t “run” the game while technically the processor itself should run rounds around it

Cuz it’s got 4GB only

[heady sparrow]

I wouldnt say run rounds

[inner sedge]

I would. A13 Bionic is very capable for this game. The problem is that it is a mobile device, so when throttling arrives, most of that performance fades

Hell, I ran it on an unsupported 2018 Samsung and I had performance to spare

Porting Vrchat to mobile was a great move. Basically no modern device can’t run it

[lilac delta]

What do you mean no modern device? A lot of apple devices have 6gb of ram, modern devices now ship with 8-16gb ram

And android had 6gb for wayyyyyyy earlier

If you still buy an android phone with 4gb of ram that's on you

[knotty wind]

the main issue there, is likely people buying a phone without knowing that they would need 6GB RAM for anything... so people get the cheapest option, which is either always an older model or a discount version, which won't have the 6 GB RAM 🤷
this issue will likely go away when people swap to the next generation of smartphones 😅

[inner sedge]

Please reread my sentence carefully.

[inner sedge]

This isn't really wrong but 4GB RAM devices are effectively fading away, luckily

[lilac delta]

You really can't have the mindset of buying the cheapest phone but then expect to run like a expensive one lol

[lilac delta]

I did, iPhone 11 is old. Heck it will be dropped likely next year, i refuse to believe a 2018 Samsung phone can handle vrchat mobile xD

[knotty wind]

i don't think "gaming smartphones" are really considered a thing... so, i just doubt it is something people with no tech knowledge really think about... 🤷
people just hear "smartphone" and assume they are all the same 😅

[inner sedge]

Then I’ve got a bridge to sell you, my friend

Like I said before, Vrchat isn’t a traditionally intensive game

Furthermore, even though the iPhone 11 lineup is old, its capabilities do not change. It’s a powerful phone compared to budget laptops still

Either way proving my statement comes first. I’ll post the performance of my 2018 Samsung Galaxy Note 9 in the game soon

[lilac delta]

Yeah no agree to disagree

[lilac delta]

Wonder how vrchat mobile will run on these gaming phones with their 24gb ram and build in fan 🤔

[inner sedge]

Not too bad for a 7 years old phone! 29 people in the lobby. To think current devices are an order of magnitude faster than this

Vrchat did run on the Original Quest, after all, which is a slower device than this phone

And being a VR, it had to uphold a higher framerate too

[inner sedge]

On a related note, the landscape mode bug is really annoyimg

[inner sedge]

Light work!

I got a friend with exactly the specs you speak of

It runs the game no different than a mid range PC

[soft tangle]

Do you guys know why this happens?

[grizzled coral]

That's an open beta feature, or at least it is on PC.

Anyhow, the world updated with incompatible changes while that instance was open, so to stop potential issues you can't join it.

[knotty wind]

#open-beta-announcements message

A bonus fix for Persistence!

Starting with this build (and partially on live too, but mostly in this build) - you will no longer be able to join instances opened with older versions of a world, unless that version has a fully compatible network layout.

• What determines if a world is compatible?
  ...

[sly moon]

we ever gonna get a way to set up and upload avatars from android?

[split lake]

Like, the unity editor for a mobile phone?

[barren field]

I mean, there's readyplayer.me if you want something now

[knotty wind]

an Android phone can't use the Unity editor... so no? 😕
you are probably better off checking the avatar marketplace in-game

[sly moon]

wouldn't have to be a full unity editor, something made to just set up and upload would be good enough

[sly moon]

i'd rather wear an amongus avatar lmao

[knotty wind]

you might have to ask Unity to create a mobile friendly version of their Unity Editor then... but i don't see how or why they would do that 🤷

[sly moon]

nah vrc could set something up, just like how a games have made mod tools without having to give away their studio's engine

[knotty wind]

VRChat doesn't own the Unity Editor though, there is nothing they can do about it 😓
besides, editing and uploading an avatar would likely be way too much work on a smartphone device, so it seem very infeasible 😖

[sly moon]

quest is also android based

and VRC wouldn't need to give out a version of the unity editor just a tool that can set things up right so it doen't matter if they own it or not

[naive bluff]

👀 I don't think you understand what Dean is talking about.

[sly moon]

i don't think he's understanding what i'm talking about

[naive bluff]

Mod tools and an SDK for a game engine are two COMPLETELY different things.

[knotty wind]

i know... but that just makes it WORSE... you are definitely not getting the Unity Editor onto a Quest standalone VR headset, since that would involve designing a whole new user-interface that works in VR

[sly moon]

what matters is the output, a custom tool could output the same thing as the unity tool, it's more a matter of if vrc are willing to do it

[naive bluff]

👀 Brother...

[sly moon]

you'd be surprised, and like i said it wouldn't need to be the unity editor, but don't underestimate whatyou can do on a standalone headset these days

[knotty wind]

so, you want them to invent a completely new and never before seen user-interface for an Unity Editor, which they don't even own the rights for, in VR?
you could go develop it yourself and sell the solution to Unity and VRChat though 🤔
by the way, aren't we far off-topic here? might be better discussed in #feature-requests, since it seems to have nothing to do with the Android smartphone app now that you are talking about VR 🤷

[sly moon]

how many times have i said they don't need to be distributing the unity editor? and how many more times am i gonna have to say it before you figure out what "*not the unity editor" means?

and it's not like they've never made a VR UI before, also generally you can use the same UI for touchscreens as you can in VR, sideload any android app onto your headset and see for yourself

usually it'll even work with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse as well

so you're not exactly limited as far as options go there

[knotty wind]

then you just have a TON of other issues... such as find out how else you can even build the avatar files, so VRChat can use them, or otherwise turn a unitypackage you have locally on your device into an avatar that can be uploaded... 🤔
i get the feeling you don't know much about the current avatar creation process, or tech in general... or maybe you are expecting something entirely different than the current avatar creation? you just want a Spore creature creator style thing for making avatars? saying you just want a way to make an avatar without any specifics makes it hard to know what you are even talking about... 😕

[sly moon]

make? jesus you really havn't read a single work have you

[knotty wind]

what works would you have me read, i don't read much literature, since i am dyslexic 😕
but yes... what else were you thinking about? you just want the "upload" part? no "making" the avatar? that just isn't how avatars are currently made/uploaded at all, so it would require everything to be changed 🤔

[sly moon]

i give up, there's no point trying to explain it to you

[lilac delta]

I lost a ton of braincells reading this useless conversation

Unity has the full rights on the making and uploading part, both what platform to make it on and make it for. VRChat only supports uploading from Linux or Windows. There is no way unity works on a quest or phones, heck they don't even made an ipad app yet. It's plain simple. There is no other way as vrchat is very limited with the unity build process.

[heady sparrow]

itd involve the vrchat devs basically having to remake the entirety of the unity editor just for this

[heady sparrow]

setting up literally requires the unity editor

you clearly dont know how the entire process of making game content works

at best the vrchat devs would literally need to remake the entire unity editor thats involved with avatar creation which is a good majority of it
and somehow make it work without issues especially on the mobile platforms

you cant just not involve it otherwise you just get stuck with default models with no ability to change it at all like what ready player me is

[visual moss]

What's the problem with using an avatar from "prismic's avatar search," buying one, or ordering one from someone else? You can find an avatar to suit any taste in VRC, although there's a risk that it might be deleted over time, but still...

[chilly mango]

this is why avatar marketplace was released!!

[wet sorrel]

Avatar marketplace needs more customization options.

[visual moss]

Well, another update that brought new bugs and worsened the already small interface...

[soft tangle]

…and the thumbnail becomes more oversized than it should be!

Devs should rework all menu interfaces in the future, not copy from Roblox…

Even Cluster has more friendly UI and UX which is better than VRC mobile

[visual moss]

Help please!

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/0041d0

[visual moss]

I'd also appreciate it if you'd react to my bug report about mirror relocation. This is a very old issue, and I'd like the developers to pay attention to it! 🙏🏻

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/3a9b50

Yes, the developers have already marked my report as "watched", but I think the more reactions, the more likely they are to pay attention soon...

[soft tangle]

New Discovery: The Third Person camera view does work on mobile! But the avatar doesn't have a head for an odd reason lol. Anyway, this video will explain more about it!

More action on Third Person view

The best settings for camera distance was 65% but it may vary on device screen

[knotty wind]

i have never seen an avatar-based 3rd-person camera system before... i know the head on your local avarar is normally choped in VRChat... are you saying this works differently on non-Android? 😕
i assume it is just because the 3rd-person camera system your avatar is using doesn't have a VRCHeadChop component to toggle visibility of your avatar's head... or maybe its Apply Condition is set to "VR only" 🤔
see: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/vrc-headchop/

[visual moss]

The quest uses camera tricks, which is why it looks so broken... A more or less adequate third-person view can be achieved using GoGo Freeze...

My avatar simply moves forward, thereby simulating a 3rd person view.

[heady sparrow]

your head gets shrunk to 0 so you can actually see when using the avatar

[soft tangle]

This mode also makes Selfie Expression too sensitive. As you can see, the avatar swayed too much than it should be (which kinda cool actually like I have FBT)

[heady sparrow]

looks more like you are just walking around a playspace without fbt

[visual moss]

What is the name of this world?

[soft tangle]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_302769e5-661a-4e38-9f13-bbf2f056e06c/info

Becareful with the jumping

[soft tangle]

Yeah you're right… maybe someday I will have real FBT when I get a VR headset

[knotty wind]

must be a sideeffect of the weird avatar-based system... i would suggest asking the creator of that system about it 😅

[real cloak]

I can no longer torture my underpowered phone

[naive bluff]

RIP.

[soft tangle]

Did you download it from Play Store or apk on the website? I've got this message before on my old potato device

[real cloak]

Apk pure

I just read the error message so I now understand what went wrong

[real cloak]

Trying to reinstall it did not fix it

[naive bluff]

Your phone is not strong enough, I'm sorry.

[real cloak]

I know it's not strong enough

But it still runs

So I don't care

It's dying because it can't find a file in the apk

[soft tangle]

I know this problem, it's like missing files or bypass or something like that. When I downloaded it from another app store (other than APKPure) under the same version, it actually works!

[soft tangle]

You can try Aurora Store, it's the most popular alternative for Play Store which is better than APKPure.

[visual moss]

Well, my mid-range Samsung Galaxy A34 5G with 6GB RAM handles instances with 50 or more players quite well. I tested "Furry Hideout." Honestly, I expected worse results, but I didn't record a video because recording video puts extra load and a drop in FPS.

I just saw some people writing that such mid-budget devices can handle no more than 15-20 people, but my phone produces quite good results on maximum graphics, with a lower resolution.

The only thing that happens is that when I switch to other maps, it sometimes says there's not enough RAM, but this rarely affects my gameplay.

Enabling auto-optimization in the "device maintenance" section helped solve the problem a little. 🤔

[visual moss]

By the way, what is the name of this world?

[inner sedge]

SoC architecture mismatch

32 bit has been dropped since a while ago

[real cloak]

I fixed it but installing the apk from a different place

[inner sedge]

Yeah makes sense

[real cloak]

I got curious and looked in the apk
And yeah
One .so file was missing soo

[inner sedge]

Your phone is 64 bit in all likelihood, so that error is given if you installed a different arch of the app

There are very few phones that are not "strong enough" for VRchat out there

[real cloak]

It's a moto g play

[inner sedge]

your main concern is RAM

[inner sedge]

Can handle the game without too much trouble

[real cloak]

This phone has like 4 gigs of ram

[inner sedge]

Dimensity 6300

[real cloak]

Decently

Not the best but playable

[inner sedge]

Ye sounds about right. The RAM is the bottom of what the game can actually run with. 6GB and above for comfortable play, together with a more powerful SoC

3GB will boot the UI but not the worlds

Poor iOS fellows are being forced to have 6GB or more

[real cloak]

Runs Worse then a quest2 running it but you don't notice the low fps when it's not right up against your face

[inner sedge]

Quest 2 annihilates your phone in terms of raw performance

So there's that. It's also driving a far higher resolution screen

[real cloak]

Yeah
But you also have Zuckerberg spy stuff on the quest so it will run slower anyway

[inner sedge]

Yea. Quest is very bloated, that's why Steam Frame is the best news of the year

[real cloak]

Hopefully I have enough money to buy it when it comes out

[inner sedge]

It shouldn't be TOO expensive. I expect it to be above Quest tier but below Valve Index pricing

[real cloak]

The price to performance must be insane though

[inner sedge]

Also it's primarily a PCVr. The standalone mode ships as a FEATURE, rather than the point of the VR, which is what the Quest is

[inner sedge]

Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. It's pretty much top of the line for VRs and about a generation old for phones

It has so much power and memory that it could run the full PC version of the game, but eh, it will run the mobile version because it is what it is

[real cloak]

I'll be using it in standalone mode though since no PC right now

[inner sedge]

Other way around for me. Gonna use PCVR mode because I got a PC to use for the horsepower, though, again, its hardware should qualify its standalone mode for a full on PC version of the game

[real cloak]

Yeah

[inner sedge]

It's basically a GTX 1050 Ti in terms of GPU and a very powerful CPU paired with it

[real cloak]

It qualifies for its own build of games

[inner sedge]

Current flagship phones do as well, but the mobile userbase is much less experienced with hardware than PC users, so developers take precautions

a PC gamer has the fundamentals of thermals, informatics and so on when gaming

phone users are unfortunately uh....not so tech savy on average

they actually risk burning their devices out, and they did

[real cloak]

When did that happen

[inner sedge]

I got some cool pics

hold on

[real cloak]

Ok

[inner sedge]

[real cloak]

Holy shit

[inner sedge]

There's more where that came from. It's mainly the Chinese Xiaomi phones, not gonna lie

But the other phones that get burned die quietly. The SoC dies.

[real cloak]

Well that's china for you

[inner sedge]

China + irresponsible owner. You do not game under 45°C Sun.

[real cloak]

Very little quality control or good ideas

[inner sedge]

They will put their phones under suffering unspeakable and then wonder why it blew up

Do you see PC gamers put a blanket over their fan intakes and then wonder why the PC died to overheating?

[real cloak]

Oh

[inner sedge]

There legit is an instruction gap between phone users and PC users.

And I don't understand why.

[real cloak]

Because it's easier to use then a pc

Im going to go and reassemble my accordion for the second time today

[inner sedge]

Well this is what happens when you confuse ease of use with ease of functioning

[real cloak]

I forgot to put a screw for the strap that keeps it closed in

[inner sedge]

I'm just gonna go sleep since it's 1am

[gusty moon]

I am wondering when/if VRC mobile will be available for phones with 4G, that way I don't have to use Nvidea to play vrchat on my phone.

-# tired of being disconnected after an hour every time and having to wait to be let back in.

[naive bluff]

Never.

The 6GB requirement is based on the Quest's available RAM allotment, and that struggles already.

[heady sparrow]

Why would they lower it?

Like its set to 6gb for a reason

[gusty moon]

IT WAS 5GB LAST I CHECKED TF?!

-# When did they make it higher?

[heady sparrow]

It was never 5gb?

It was always 6gb

[gusty moon]

When first "released" (aka a beta for those with vrc+) it was 5gb

[naive bluff]

Mmmm, no, it's always been 6.

[gusty moon]

????

[naive bluff]

Either way, your phone ain't strong enough.

[heady sparrow]

no? even back then it was 6gb

[lilac delta]

always been 6gb ram xD

[heady sparrow]

ram is usually in even numbers so even if it was somehow 5gb you would still need a 6gb phone

[trail forge]

what the fxxk? Vrc server

[naive bluff]

👀

[lilac delta]

just try again

[stark shard]

I don't know if it's normal that VRChat isn't working properly on my old Oppo Reno 5 Life, or what I can do.

[knotty wind]

the screen is supposed to look like that... right?
it looks like the app is running, so what is the issue?

[knotty wind]

what is wrong with it? 😕
did you just enter the wrong code?... i would recommend adding an authenticator to your account, it just seems more reliable than email authentication 😅

[stark shard]

The problem is that it happens to me in all games

[knotty wind]

sounds like your phone is busted as much as the screen is

[stark shard]

sounds like your phone is busted as much as the screen is

[lilac delta]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bad-batch-star-wars-star-wars-the-bad-batch-the-bad-batch-echo-star-wars-echo-gif-27242152

[trail forge]

I had type in code from the email

[naive zodiac]

I just want to play vrc on my phone

[knotty wind]

and it worked?
...
and it worked, right?

[knotty wind]

can't you?

[soft tangle]

This world is truly mobile support, it's great and fun! But it's not listed in the Spotlight Mobile category idk why

[knotty wind]

i have been wondering why this empty "Your Challenges" section with just a button to "View Badges" is here at the top of the launch app 🤔
do you all see it too? or just me? 😅

[visual moss]

I have the same thing

Yess! They will fix the face mirror!

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/3a9b50

[spice zodiac]

Yes I see it too

All the time

[soft tangle]

Finally, the real third person view! 🎉🙌🏻
#announcements message

[wet sorrel]

Desktop online and on Steam only.

[lilac delta]

Desktop online? You can be offline to?

[visual moss]

I think it will be possible to implement this feature for Android as well, but it is unlikely that they will do this in the near future.

[soft tangle]

Yep, it will come to the mobile version after PC was done for the test if successful

[wet sorrel]

sweet

[river blaze]

Does the Android build of VRC work on Bluestacks? They're advertising it as working now, but I thought that wasn't the case before.
Would be nice so I can run it in MacOS 😅

[tepid mirage]

I’ve reset it 10 times now, no clue how to get in. I’ve tried everything

[river blaze]

Answering my own question, yes it works! But an M1 Macbook is defo not enough to run it smoothly 😅

[knotty wind]

get in what? what actually did you do before getting stuck on that screen?

[tepid mirage]

So like I waited for the whole thing to like literally load so I can join the game and I went to go join a public instance in the retro office but I was just getting completely stuck every single time even after waiting I was stuck on that screen for 10 minutes, maybe more

[knotty wind]

so, this happened when you tried to join the instance from the launch app?
or did you enter your homeworld first and then try to join the instance? 😕

[limber cradle]

Tried to install VRC through Google Play Games PC, yet it directs me to a page saying that it either requires an intel CPU or my graphics drivers are out of date. Now, I am using an AMD CPU, but wanted to check if it was even possible in the first place before I setup my old PC again that did have an intel CPU

[knotty wind]

what model is the Android smartphone you are trying to install it on? 😕

[limber cradle]

I said Google Play Games PC :)

[knotty wind]

the Google Play version is only for Android smartphones... if you want to run it on PC, you need to get it through Steam instead:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/438100/VRChat/

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[limber cradle]

Google Play Games PC is a google product that allows you to run android apps on the play store on your PC :)
I already have VRC on Steam, just want to play the Android version for content testing reasons, but I am yet to find an emulator/method that would allow me to do so

[knotty wind]

well, whatever device you are on isn't supported by the Android mobile version on VRChat, it only supports Android smartphones 😅
the best way to test an avatar on Android/Quest would be to use your phone (assuming your phone is supported)... or ask a friend to do it 🤔
since the Android mobile version is extremely limited in what it can do, such as no hand gesture support at all, you are probably better off just asking a Quest player for help 😖

[limber cradle]

Hence why I asked the question if I just needed to setup my old PC with an Intel CPU as Google recommended

If it even works - if anyone has bothered to try. If someone knows some other way to run the android version on pc is the end goal

I'm already aware it isn't supported on my current PC. I've tried quite a few things

[visual moss]

Gestures works on Android if you connect a keyboard, which is very strange...

[knotty wind]

true... i didn't think of that 😅
but you usually don't have a keyboard if you are using your phone 😛

[soft tangle]

I've tried that method you said back then, and I can confirm 💯 it really does work! All shortcut keys work the same as the desktop version

So it's not strange for me, maybe strange for people who never use it or know about this

[soft tangle]

One of the rare moments…

It just happened once, bug won't work in multiple attempt

[soft tangle]

Surprisingly, no game crash occurs on my device during this test. Just very bad lag…

World capacity and avatar settings

[wet sorrel]

Awesome. I got anti-cheat message after trying to invite many friends.

i survived at 232

[soft tangle]

It keeps increasing around 240+ or 250+ something like, still survived lol

[wet sorrel]

Beefy phone

i was pcvr at the time

[soft tangle]

Yup, I tested on midrange device

[wet sorrel]

We lost voices

[soft tangle]

I noticed that when I enter the world, just items sound heared, no voice completely. I can see why some people use chat to conversation

[wet sorrel]

yep. This great to test to prepare for New Years Eve, but smaller scale

[soft tangle]

It's great to stress test again since Furality Somna at Club FYNN, just not in this infinite capacity hehe

[wet sorrel]

That was my highest capacity compared to Umbra at 186.

[soft tangle]

Waiting official 3P view for mobile version ❌
3P view via Gogo Loco ❌
3P view via world feature ✅

This is a new discovery if you feel impatient for 3P feature, especially for the mobile version

[visual moss]

This map is over a year old, and this feature has been on this map since early 2025.

[soft tangle]

Steam Audio update really does improve audio quality!

The difference, before updating audio quality feels rough and poor spartial which makes my ears hurt. But with Steam Audio it fixes and improves everything including spartial 3D sounds. It's noticeable if you wear headphones

[rigid herald]

Can someone pls add better graphics pls for all the characters or implement better graphics for better and more powerful androids

[heady sparrow]

me thinks you dont know much about how it works

[rigid herald]

Can yall try atleast

[naive bluff]

I ask again, how?

In what world are you expecting this to work?

[visual moss]

Go buy a powerful PC, you'll get good graphics and high-quality avatars.

[rigid herald]

1st off my phone is working just fine with the sonic transformations and aura

[soft tangle]

I've never asked them for better graphics, but the only thing I wanted them to add was real time shadows.

At least they could use much lower shadow quality for the Android version (or mobile support), there're a lot of mobile games that using Unity Engine have low quality shadows even game graphics were set Ultra quality in the game (shadows still look pixelated)

[heady sparrow]

Those games usually have full control over the content like worlds n such

They can afford rendering shadows cause they know they have the performance available

[lilac delta]

Lol

[wet sorrel]

It is user generated content in vrchat. It is based on what the user uploads within set limits. VRChat has its limits for avis at 10MB for avis and 100MB for worlds for Android and iOs. Quest VR headsets are included as Android.

[rigid herald]

Well my avatar quality is poor and below 10mb minimum download 40 maximum amount of avatar download i just don't want avatars to be not pixelated

[knotty wind]

then tell the other people to wear some optimized and better performance rated avatars 🤷
it is literally their fault for wearing very poor performance rated avatars 😐

[pearl mulch]

real-time Shadows are horrendously expensive as they like double to more than six times expensive the rendering cost of everything

[soft tangle]

That sounds like an excuse that has nothing to do with server cost or anything related

[pearl mulch]

no that's literally how Shadow casting light sources work in unity you have to redraw everything again per real-time light source to account for the Shadows question have you ever made a VRchat world or know what a draw call is

[knotty wind]

what does "server costs" have to do with anything? 😕
they are talking about the "performance cost", meaning that you either have nice smooth performance, or you have horrible performance with nice shadows... you can't have both

[gusty echo]

I remember some avatars had 3p even for vr

[wet sorrel]

Merry Christmas and 1 year anniversary of very poor avatars on mobile

[grim night]

I remember when people were like "ermm very poor is never coming to mobile!! ☝️🤓" funny asff

[soft tangle]

Yeah, I remember that time when most people asked and someone gave the same answer multiple times. Well looks like these people have proven wrong today lmao

[grim night]

Lmao

[soft tangle]

Just like this video I shared not long ago #android-discussion message
No idea why they (Locomotion) removed this feature, but today VRC devs reuse this method again and improved for official feature

[visual moss]

Are there any worlds where we can test the third-person view, other than that Chinese world?

[soft tangle]

I don't know more about the world that has 3P

That's what I got so far

[knotty wind]

i technically wish it never had... since it would force people to optimize their avatars for once... but i guess we got a decent compromise... 🤷
there is just still no pressure at all for avatar creators to do minimal optimizations 😞
and also, to be fair, i think we were all just repeating what VRChat was saying at the time... that they had no plans for it at the time... until they suddenly changed said plans 😅

[rigid herald]

devs can y'all pls add camera hand tracking if y'all can I'm not forcing it befor y'all get on my but again for saying something stupid

like how pcs have the hand camera traking

[naive bluff]

...What?

[rigid herald]

like the hand traking with the PC steam vrchat

implement that into mobile

[naive bluff]

You mean with a webcam?

[rigid herald]

yeah but with the hands I know there is a version with the head but pls add the hands into it

[naive bluff]

How would that work? You need your hand to hold your phone.

Sometimes both hands are needed.

[rigid herald]

not if you have a controller

there's controller support for a reson

[knotty wind]

probably impossible, since you need your hand to hold your phone? 😕
but you can make a feature request and they can look into it someday maybe 🤷
you make a feature request here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[rigid herald]

bro I have a controller you don't need to hold you phone

[knotty wind]

no idea... either way, if you want your feature request to ever be looked at, you need to post it on the feeback Canny board... writing about it here in this channel will not yield any results at all 😅

[lilac delta]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-episode1-the-phantom-menace-qui-gon-jar-jar-binks-gif-22129926

You are still HOLDING the controller

[knotty wind]

i mean, when i play VRChat on Desktop, i also have to use my mouse and keyboard... but still find the time to headpat people... so i see the point 🤔
i think the main issue is that VRChat uses the smartphone's native face tracking, and i don't think that supports hand tracking? not to mention the perspective and distance to the camera is a lot different... so VRChat would likely need an alternative, so it is no small task 😟
but either way, a feature request on Canny is much better than complaining with us here 😅

[naive bluff]

I'm gonna be doing a funny here in a month or so.

[lilac delta]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-write-bubu-study-bubu-angry-bubu-cute-bubu-bear-gif-18020045862198229212

[wet sorrel]

Glad we got the very poor avatar limit on phone

[knotty wind]

yeah, it is a nice compromise 😅
i hope they implement the same on Quest some day 😇

[wet sorrel]

Quest 3 is starting to have the low memory issues that plagued Quest 2 over 2 years ago

But instead of being sent to vrchat home, it sends you to Meta home. so just as bad as hard crash

[knotty wind]

as far as i know, Quest3 doesn't have much better RAM than Quest2? 🤷
so it isn't surprising... people just need to stop showing all the VERY POOR avatars in an instance 😅

[wet sorrel]

It has 2GB more. But the Quest Pro had 12GB

[knotty wind]

but from what i have heard, they don't have separate VRAM, so it is still not as good as a real PC with an average GPU 😟
i am no expert though, so whatever 😅

[wet sorrel]

true

[soft tangle]

Another crazy stress test instance again! 🔥
NYE2026 Edition 🥳🎊

[chilly mango]

missed the 200+ player time, but caught the instance at around 120

[soft tangle]

Actually, there are more than 200+ people and I also missed it.

[visual moss]

Who are you asking? This isn't a place where developers go.

[unkempt aurora]

Yo what happening with the game

Something is gucking up with my game

It's not letting me sign in

Nvm it fixed its self

[lapis bane]

Does anyone know the current Android build number?

Android build 1769 and later……

[wet sorrel]

It is 1769 for me atm

PC build is 1781

[knotty wind]

check the Google Play store to see if there are updates you haven't installed

[knotty wind]

maybe it is out-dated?

[knotty wind]

wait... that error message is talking about the instance of that world... not your VRChat version... make a new instance of the world

[knotty wind]

that is the Open Beta version...
#open-beta-announcements message
Open Beta versions are not available on Android or iOS devices

[lapis bane]

Thankyou now build1769！

[lapis bane]

I was having trouble because the same error occurred again even after rebuilding the instance.

[knotty wind]

what world was it?

[lapis bane]

At this time I was visiting Booth Festival

[shell flare]

？

[naive bluff]

English?

[shell flare]

@naive bluff If strangers are lingering around you, be careful. Currently, most avatar thefts (illegal copying) are done using a scanning method called "screenshot". If asked to look around closely from all directions or pose in specific ways (including MMD), it may arouse suspicion.

[naive bluff]

Oh, that bullshit copypasta? :/

[heady sparrow]

this aint no marvel ironman movie

[knotty wind]

yeah, that is false... just fear mongering... you can ignore it 😞

[fresh coyote]

What does this mean

[knotty wind]

context?

[fresh coyote]

Idek

[soft tangle]

Pushing my device's performance to its limit by setting to the maximum level! 🔥😤
No crashes, just very terrible lag between fps0 - fps2 and tested alone without any people around

You can try by yourself on your own devices performance here!
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_2f580adc-02f5-47ce-be5a-2567d86eb834/info

[limber cradle]

dang doesn't work on ios

💔

[half tapir]

did very poor got enabled for android? i can see my own very poor avatar there now

[knotty wind]

yes, this was added a long time ago, you can see your own and up to 2-3 other people's very poor avatars 😅
but you have to manually show their avatar

[visual moss]

Guys, I've made a few bug reports, please help me promote them, there's a chance the developers will pay attention to them. 🙏🏻

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/many-mini-games-are-not-optimized-at-all

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/the-face-mirror-still-has-some-issues

I think something needs to be done about this, the developers are not at all engaged in optimizing mini-games, which is why players like me can only communicate and explore worlds...

The developers responded to my previous bug report about the face mirror and even fixed it.

[naive bluff]

The first one would be on the creator to optimize, imo.

VRC just gives them the tools.

[grizzled coral]

Yeah, this is on the individual world creators to optimize, not something that belongs on the feedback site for VRChat itself.
If you want this feedback to get to the right place then you need to contact the individual world creators.

[visual moss]

No problem, but I think that some issues, like button overlaps, can be fixed by the developers themselves.

[red frost]

Hey

[visual moss]

What?

[red frost]

Hey

[lilac delta]

no

[naive bluff]

RIP that guy.

[lapis bane]

When I tried to play yesterday and today, I was disconnected multiple times and sent to an error world before I could get to the home world.

[knotty wind]

sounds like a connection issue, so start by trying some of this guide: https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/360062658433-Troubleshooting-Connection-Issues-with-VRChat
otherwise, trying changing to mobile data or another wifi 🤔

[lapis bane]

Thankyou!
I restarted the router a few times and it was fine.

[soft tangle]

Same world 🌍
Same creator 🛠️
Different games 📱

Left is Cluster, Right is VRChat

[visual moss]

In cluster, the graphics are, as usual, better... It's so frustrating that most Android worlds have such poor graphics

[pearl mulch]

honestly I wouldn't describe either version as particularly good-looking from the lack of lighting

[visual moss]

But Cluster has normal shadows, and there are also many high-quality and detailed worlds, unlike VRChat.

[pearl mulch]

that looks more like graphic artifacting than any proper Shadows

[visual moss]

At least it's better than none at all.

[visual moss]

The world itself is not very well made, but if you compare other worlds, most will look much nicer than in the Android version of VRC.

[knotty wind]

just looks like the world creator got lazy when making the Android/Quest version of the world 🤷

[pearl mulch]

cluster VR and vrchat Android have pretty much the exact same render characteristics so there's entirely skill issue on the map Maker's part if it's looking significantly worse on one platform over the other

[soft tangle]

In Cluster, the world creator has complete control on graphics if they want to enable real shadows, dynamic lighting and post processing on their world unlike VRChat especially Android.

[soft tangle]

Here's my comparison video 4 months ago #android-discussion message

[pearl mulch]

Real time shadows incredibly performance intensive so you're pretty much always going to be wanting to do a baked lighting scenario on mobile hardware

[knotty wind]

Strasz only posts in #ios-announcements, and not in #android-announcements 😢

[thin viper]

I was wondering, for an avatar I'm coming out with, do android players care if the ranking is poor vs medium or lower? Does it have a big impact?

[knotty wind]

if it is "Very Poor" performance rated on Android/Quest, then it will be hidden for them by default... more so on Android than Quest even

[wet sorrel]

Plus there is a limit of 4 for very poor for phone

[soft tangle]

Actually it's 3 very poor

It couldn't open the fourth avatar because when I did that, the first very poor avatar reset to fallback or imposter. This happens every time, even five people in the instance including me

[wet sorrel]

it includes yours if you are using very poor

[soft tangle]

They should include fifth or sixth very poor btw

[knotty wind]

isn't that because the 4th one is exclusively reserved for yourself? so it is 3 plus your own avatar? 🤔

[knotty wind]

what do you mean? you mean you want more very poor avatars shown at once? 😕

[soft tangle]

If VRC mobile has the ability to tilt the camera… look more fascinating than standards horizontal/vertical style!

[forest violet]

I'm using my phone right now but I'll use my computer later.

[soft tangle]

Just two months left before Furality in Jun and this shit needs to be fixed ASAP! Graphics issue and broken black shaders.

Here's the thing, if you noticed there's a broken shader that looks completely black and is actually broken on Android mobile but works fine and no black shader issue on Android Quest and iOS. I've been observing this problem for two months now from avatars and the world's.

Now it's time for me to take action to avoid them fuck up the Furality experience like last year (Selfie Expression). I will share a bug reports link here when it's made soon.

[knotty wind]

did you make bug reports for it? is this an issue on the whole Android platform (Android mobile and Quest)? or only on Android mobile?
developers don't read this chat, and they definitely don't use it to find issues to work on... if there is no bug report for the issue, it is very unlikely to get fixed 😟
bug reports are made here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[naive bluff]

Isn't a black shader failed transparency?

[heady sparrow]

usually when there is absolutely no color value at all in the pixel of the texture it defaults black
otherwise it just takes the current value and maxes it to opaque to whatever color it was