ue4-general

[plush yew]

I will get everything? No errors?

Provided your computer is powerful enough

Yesterday I wanted to use a project in a new version but I give up

Because I get blueprint errors

Hm

My project was for version 4.25

that's the problem

[plush yew]

That's beyond my knowledge

So, I will do another one and migrate the terrain

Thanks for the help!

[plush yew]

What kind of errors? I believe it’s possible to upgrade/migrate to ue5 or something

Animation, assets

But I never said UE5

4.26?

Yes

Do you still have the errors or did you start a new one?

[sick parcel]

basic question, I'm not getting the way objects size is calculated

there is a scale, but objects (meshes, etc) have like their original dimensions, that I can't see in the details panel

so if I want to make a cube to be the same height as another model, how do I go about it?

[plush yew]

I have the errors

[odd geode]

Hello!

Looking to see if anyone could help out with something possibly basic. I just started using Unreal Engine the other day, but do have experience with programming in general.

Question: While using "Move Component To" in the way of a coin toss motion, it seems that the rotation is acting up. When trying a 360 degree flip, it works the first time, but then only flips to 180 and back down to 0 degrees concurrently. Is there anyone who knows if there are any constraints that is the cause of this?

Version: UEv4.26.2

Attachment: Blueprint flow for the coin toss, as an actor component. It takes the inputs for how high to flip, how many flips, and how fast it will do the motion.

Appreciate any and all help, especially since I am still learning!

Here is a gif of the action happening: https://i.gyazo.com/067304b3a747486bda168e7065d0c4dc.mp4

[plush yew]

spagget

[drowsy snow]

Try enabling "Force Shortest Rotation Path"

Rotators in UE have gimbal locks, where an axis would wrap around from 180 to -180. This is fine for hard-setting the rotation, preventing floating point errors, but can be issue with interpolations.

[odd geode]

Oh, I thought that forcing shortest path would cause it to not move if I have 0 degrees go to 360 degrees for example

[mild phoenix]

Hello everyone who know what's going here?

[plush yew]

fix your spaghetti code, itll help you in the long run when you start getting more complex

[mild phoenix]

I package my game for android

Sky is like this

Glitching

[drowsy snow]

Shortest Path in rotation interps means that it's rotating with quaternion interpolation (so to speak), so that when it wraps around, the motion won't going around.

[drowsy snow]

#mobile

[odd geode]

Yeah, that caused it to flip half up, flip half down always

[grave pollen]

Anyone have any resources on free/cheap books for ue4/blueprints/cpp?

I’m trying this new weird concept called reading

[plush yew]

learn.unrealengine.com

[drowsy snow]

Try look for it in bookstores.
Unreal Engine updates more frequently than many other DCC software contemporaries, so web articles are more preferred.

[drowsy snow]

I don't know but there's this buzz about web article or something.

[steady hull]

So circled in blue is a separate cube with the material from quixel. Notice how it has a reflectiveness. Outside of the blue box (which is also currently selected) is a custom landscape material i made using the same textures from quixel. I can't seem to figure out how to get the reflectiveness quality to come up with the custom landscape material. Anyone have any ideas?

[woeful dawn]

Does anyone have an example or a resource of any kind on how I can completely separate my client and server as two build targets and communicate using something like ENet? I want to bypass Unreal's replication stuff entirely to experiment with a much larger number of players in a slow-paced game

[ashen frost]

wish i could help

[vagrant hornet]

When I rotate the sun below the terrain how do I make stars appear?

With moon?

[drowsy snow]

With Sky Atmo's material nodes, you use them in your skydome material.

[granite spire]

@whole abyss ahh yeah

[spare kernel]

Not really unreal related at all. Maybe ask in a unity discord server.

If you want to discuss doing this inside Unreal Engine, then sure, ask.

could always use #lounge @grave kettle

[grave kettle]

ok thanks

[winter rain]

What causes a child actor blueprint class to override a parent function?

[soft tree]

just calling the function will override it. if you don't want to override it, call the parent function first (Right click the function > Add Call To Parent Function)

[odd geode]

Like this?

[winter rain]

Okay, thanks

[soft tree]

That looks neat!

you could clean it up and make it easier on yourself if you turn all of those into a function, and save the variables coming from the event as local variables

then you can just simply grab the node each time you need it, instead of those branched wires

[odd geode]

Cant

Tried multiple times

[soft tree]

what do you mean cant?

[odd geode]

It errors

Move Component To can not be collapsed inside a function

Annoys me 😦

[soft tree]

oh! async function. that's why

darn.

well either way, you made it look pretty

[odd geode]

Now I just need the original question answered 😄

lol

[elder viper]

Hi All! I am having trouble with UE5 projects showing up in the Unreal Launcher library. I created a new project but its not visible in the library so I can't add any other addon's to it

[plush yew]

@odd geodenot like that no

but its abit better

use more variables

[odd geode]

@plush yew what else would you do? I cant break it down into functions due to the Move to Component

[plush yew]

for such a short bp it works okay, but id make the floats into variables

wich also makes it easier to change them later on

you dont really want node highways lol

basically what @soft tree said! lol I didnt see that my bad

[odd geode]

I guess that goes according to preference... I think in a coding perspective, as initializing a new variable in a method/constructor just to store the input variable is sloppy. In this case the code makes most sense to me as I read it as if I am doing a method call of FlipIt for the object.

[plush yew]

its cause you have like 4 nodes in that bp

once you have like 30 40 nodes for one function and have wires running everywhere youll be crying lol

[odd geode]

I wonder what they do on backend for the C++ generation 🤔 if that local variable created is not actually created and it just references the input var

[plush yew]

also making speed height and flips into variables makes it so much easier to change them cause you can create other function to SET those variables

and just call upon that variable instead of running wires from it

[odd geode]

Imagine this as a method call, the inputs are what its supposed to do, its just an action

If I needed to change speed or whatever else, I'd do it on that actor level

and create vars there

before calling to flip it

[plush yew]

sure man, if you end up having a blueprint looking like this

cause you dont wanna make variables

we warned you lol

[odd geode]

I consider that sloppy because what that does is create a giant class and not have reusable code

[plush yew]

its great tho

lol

[soft tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZftEVDuCE&t 🙂

[odd geode]

tyty 🙂

I've been having an issue with UE not pulling up the visual c++

would make my life a bit easier if it let me, rather then have to hunt in the directories

[soft tree]

I believe if you start your project off as a BP only project, it doesn't open the C++ classes

[soft tree]

If you do begin the project however as a C++ proj, then it does seem to bring them up. I haven't really converted a BP into a C++ proj before, but it may be as simple as just creating a C++ file in your project. I believe that creates the necesary generated VS files which will allow you to then open the engine provided C++ classes

[drowsy snow]

You can create C++ classes from a BP project, and in turn converting it to c++ project.

[soft tree]

oh cool, then it is just as simple as I described?

[odd geode]

Cool, though blueprints are a nice visual, but seems to take more time in some areas for me D:

[soft tree]

I usually prototype in blueprints, and then move what makes sense into C++

[odd geode]

Yeah, I figure once I get into rest calls for db info is where that will matter

[soft tree]

prototyping is way quicker in BP with it's instant compile time, and you can properly debug

[brittle berry]

Guys I am beginner to Unreal engine what should i prefer blueprints or c++

[plush yew]

do you know c++?

[brittle berry]

No I don't know c++

[odd geode]

Blueprints are in the aspect of high level design, C++ is low level, for people that do not know much about coding, it is stated you should start with blue prints and will be able to migrate pretty easily.

If you want to know more, look at @soft tree provided link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZftEVDuCE

[brittle berry]

Oh thank you soo much

[soft tree]

General consensous seems to be: even if you're comfortable in programming, you probably want to start off with BP so you can get a handle of everything that is available, and get a general understanding of how to couple systems together.

If you've never programmed before, I'd personally HIGHLY suggest they don't even attempt C++ until they are fairly comfortable with BPs

but I'm no expert so don't take my word for it :). I'm still learning unreal as much as the next guy in here.

[odd geode]

I definitely agree with that, because I am actually a Software Engineer for business applications, and working in a physics engine is an entirely different beast 😛

Working with BPs are definitely helping paint a picture for me, but this is just day 2 of me starting

[soft tree]

EE here with plenty of experience in programming. started off with Unreal++ (C++ but really, let's be honest.. its Unreal++ 🤣 ) and was stumped and lost.
Spent a lot of time with BPs and got way more comfortable

[odd geode]

Electrical? Cool stuff, spent the first half of my life with Electrical

[soft tree]

i should clarify. EE background but not a fully qualified EE. more like jr EE

and bored af in the field. Would much rather do game dev 🙂

[odd geode]

Ah gotchya, was an Electrician growing up, joined the military and was a nuclear engineer, then decided I wanted to do something more warm and went for software

[soft tree]

oh dang. impressive.

[odd geode]

Game Dev is what I originally wanted to do, but I don't think it would be as fulfilling as making one's own

What company would you like to work for? or are you speaking of your own game?

[soft tree]

Yeah. just looking to do indie dev for the most part

I've been playing around with game dev for a few years, and now just settling down for the first "real" project

[soft tree]

@'d you in #lounge since convo's prob more appropriate there

[quiet token]

how to finish spacegame im work on it almost 3 year now

[drowsy snow]

Don't ask the server, ask your own planning and design document

[quiet token]

lmao ive been winging it this whole time

[soft tree]

Let's see some gameplay 😄

[dreamy zenith]

is there a way to attach a part of a mesh to the bone so it goes with the animation?

[light thunder]

Does it matter if these wheels are like this in the physics asset?

[plush yew]

I'm trying to open 4.26 project in UE5

But I get blueprint errors

😦

Who can help me with that?

It says that project shoudn't be more than 20 characters

Is that the reason? I will rename the folder.

Errors in first person character

What's wrong?

[vagrant hornet]

Can I easily convert a project written in blueprints to C++? Or do I have to remake the entire thing?

[quiet token]

playslotanimation must have been renamed to something else

[plush yew]

Oh

Is that the reason?

But why?

[quiet token]

yes the red means the function doesnt exist

[vagrant hornet]

https://allarsblog.com/2015/11/05/converting-bp-project-to-cpp/

Would this convert the blueprint code?

[quiet token]

epic must have renamed it in ue5

[plush yew]

Oh

What should I do then?

I rename it?

[quiet token]

we must find out what play slot animation has been renamed or updated to

[plush yew]

Alright, thanks

[quiet token]

that too its prob just a saved hash mismatch, right click the node and press refresh

[plush yew]

But do you think is a problem if name project has more than 20 characters?

I renamed it to a short name

[drowsy snow]

You have to manually translate BP logic to C++ script.

There's a reason why Epic ditched Nativisation in UE5.

[plush yew]

Alright.

I will try

[drowsy snow]

And as the description says, no, it's not converting BP logic to C++. It's only converting BP only project to C++ enabled one.

[plush yew]

any better way to get variables out of break hit results?

I mean, the first person character is not even working

Should I recreate it? @plush yew

How do I open the error console?

I don't see it now

[quiet token]

PlaySlotAnimationAsDynamicMontage look for that

its changed to that in ur5

dang i see it

what is gunAnimationBP ?

i would just try putting a new PlayslotAnimation node down

[plush yew]

I refreshed nodes

What should I do now?

Oh

My project is working now!

I just removed the animations

I will just add new one

Thanks for the help!

[neat shale]

hey guys do you think i should use this vehicle system for the physics in my game

https://unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/advanced-vehicle-system

or this system for the destruction and details

https://unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/driveable-cars-advanced-pack-ue4-type-vehicle-physics-and-interaction-system

[teal badger]

I hope this question belongs here

https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/340393/request-option-to-only-delete-non-referenced-asset.html

I have tons of assets in some directories. I want to delete them, but some are referenced elsewhere. This I know because the engine warns me about it. However, there's no option to tell it "don't delete those". No way to "uncheck" or remove them from the "to be deleted" list.

I've seen this and similar questions posted around. What's the solution to this problem?

[fierce tulip]

there is a cheap marketplace pack that can show unused assets for easy removal. (though even with that I would rather back-up first)

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/not-yet-unused-assets-filter

[teal badger]

Mmmh. Sounds like a missing feature. Thanks for the quick answer!

[exotic thicket]

clean me up scotty

is that a real product lol

[hidden sparrow]

Hey, I have and editable text box that needs a password. How do I make it check if the password is correct when the player hits ENTER on his keyboard? When I make a Enter Pressed node it works only when the player clicks his mouse out of the text bar.

[silent sentinel]

Hello, my name is Itai,
I wanted to ask if there is a list of all the indie games developed at unreal?
I am currently conducting research about some games and a list of indie games made in unreal or indie company that are developing in unreal will help a lot.

[fierce tulip]

did you google? because there are quite a few lists

[silent sentinel]

I could only find a few companies

but not list

[fierce tulip]

try "list of unreal indie games"

[silent sentinel]

It only shows games in unreal but not indie

[fierce tulip]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games
contains AAA as well as indies, though its incomplete.
https://www.indiedb.com/engines/unreal-engine-4/games contains all indie games that where submitted to indiedb, but is incomplete and a lot are abandoned

though with so many users, there will probably never be a complete list

[silent sentinel]

thank you

[teal badger]

If someone is interested in an alternative answer: I basically tracked the references whenever I was deleting something that was being used in the level of interest. So it's basically trial and error hitting "cancel" on the delete dialog window, then selecting/unselecting holding Ctrl to add/remove from the "delete list".

It's a pain in the ass, though

[hidden sparrow]

Wow it works thank you so much

[odd geode]

@soft tree yep, sorry about that, just stepped away for some food and whatnot... as for me with unreal, too many ideas, just need to focus on one 😛

[grave osprey]

How game like footnote can render from the sky ?

Do that simply use lod ?

[idle mantle]

hello please is there a lot of difference between ue4 and ue5?

for learning UE, u4 is better?

Thanks, Ue4 then

[grim ore]

@idle mantlelearn ue4, learn how it works and get comfortable with it, then read the notes when ue5 comes out on how to migrate to it, then use 5.

[grave osprey]

@grim ore is there a tips to optimize code ?

[grim ore]

uh... probably?

[drowsy snow]

Use stat commands, don't abuse event ticks, use event timers if you can

[grim ore]

^^ generally profile your code, thats how you learn what needs to be optimized

[hidden sparrow]

Hey I was just wondering, is there a way to do that with other keys? For example with the F3 key. It doesnt work when I am typing in the textbox.

[grave wigeon]

wtf this is so weird, i just looked at a blueprint and actually understood what and how its doing.

thought this day would never come

[prime willow]

@grim ore where can i learn about profiling my code o-o

[gloomy stratus]

uhm.. i'm not sure where to ask for help regarding this issue, I feel incredibly stupid but I cannot for the life of me figure out how the levels work in unreal.. every time I make a new level, whatever I add to it shows up in my other level. how do I fix this?

also maybe it's worth mentioning when I hit play the contents from the other level don't show up

[grim ore]

go to window -> levels and see what is in that window

[grim ore]

and what does it show when you load up the main level?

or is that the main level?

[gloomy stratus]

that is main level

[grim ore]

ok so where do you want the items to be loaded into, and any reason for using level streaming?

[gloomy stratus]

i wasn't even aware that I was using level streaming

[grim ore]

it looks like you are based on that, you have a main level then your dungeon level is a sub level in it

[gloomy stratus]

oh I see, how do I make it its own level?

[grim ore]

which one? the main level or the dungeon level

[gloomy stratus]

I want them both to be separate, and they'll be accessible through blueprints later on

[grim ore]

right click on the dungeon level and remove selected

[gloomy stratus]

is it going to remove the level entirely?

[grim ore]

it will remove it as a sub level

if you need to move items into it that you put in the other level, you should move them first

[gloomy stratus]

okay sweet thank you

i wish it was a bit more clear but maybe i just didn't understand it

when I created the level it automatically did that, weird

but nvm thank you!!

[grim ore]

well if you just loaded up levels then it should never have done that

i dont think it can do it by itself

[merry gazelle]

I know the source control method, I was wondering if making copies of a project is also a valid way to backup?

[covert summit]

no inside unreal today?

[light thunder]

What's a quick and dirty way to animate that texture there?

I can make those faces a new element in blender just need a quick material function

[tall mountain]

Testing Iphone 12 with NDI HX wireless to unreal

[covert summit]

you could use the Time function in the material to change the texture offset over time

[covert summit]

nice to see NDI being useful in more than just broadcast 😄

going to do a virtual performance type thing?

[light thunder]

If I know the area of the texture UV wise, how would I single that area out?

[covert summit]

that I don't know (know so little about materials and DCC)

might try #graphics

[quiet raft]

uͤ

[primal oasis]

Excuse my ignorance but hopefully have a simple question - I am displaying a photograph in an image in a widget. But I need the photo to change after an event. What type of variable do I use to store a photo for use as an image in a widget?? Is Texture2D appropriate? I’m having problems with it and wondering if something else is a wiser choice as a variable type?

Any advice is welcome

[torn summit]

As i am Understand it correctly , try to make 2 Pictures and work with Visibility , this is the best choice i use always ,too

[primal oasis]

I need one of the pictures to be stored in a variable because it’s going to be selected from a group of photos stored in a data table. I just need to make sure I’m storing the photos as an appropriate variable type

Texture2D is what I use for icons etc but I’m not sure it’s right for photos etc too

And I am often getting the “power of 2” error with the photos used because photos typically don’t conform to an aspect ratio that uses numbers that fit power of 2

[covert summit]

you can definitely just use Texture 2D

the power of 2 thing is true though

[primal oasis]

Does power of 2 apply universally then?

[covert summit]

not sure there's a better asset type for non power of two textures

[primal oasis]

Sure, thanks

Photos typically don’t use an aspect ratio that fits power of 2 numbers

[covert summit]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/umg-non-powers-of-two-textures/29224/2

[primal oasis]

So they’re gonna have to either be cropped weirdly or have white space added I guess

[covert summit]

are you sure its not a warning

[primal oasis]

On iOS it’s just replacing the photos with a power of 2 error msg

But only ones loaded in using a variable

[covert summit]

ah well that forum post hit it on the head

[primal oasis]

If I just add it manually to the widget it’s fine

[covert summit]

i would venture a guess that its the limitations of OpenGL ES

[primal oasis]

Thanks I’ll read that now

Appreciate your help btw

[covert summit]

oh here we go

[primal oasis]

Yeah that forum post is the same scenario

[covert summit]

@primal oasis

This is badly documented, however for UI you can make non-power of two textures work on iOS by setting texture’s compression to UserInterface2D
-- https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/using-non-power-of-2-image-sizes-for-umg-widgets-on-mobile-ios/127482/2

so there ya go

[sinful whale]

Interesting question - why can I make a C++ class that's a child of USceneComponent and I can make a Blueprint class that's a child of USceneComponent but I can't make a Blueprint class that's the child of a C++ class that's a child of USceneComponent?

[covert summit]

@sinful whale definitely wouldnt expect that limitation

yet ive run into other bizarre limitations on blueprint classes myself

are you sure you have annotated the UCLASS correctly in C++ though?

[primal oasis]

This looks promising!! Some options to try. Thanks!

[sinful whale]

I'm not 100% sure I've done that, but I also have just taken the auto-generated C++ and tried this so I haven't even touched the UCLASS annotation that was given to me

[covert summit]

eh im not sure there is a specific annotation needed, just that it is, infact, a UCLASS

[sinful whale]

Well that it definitely is

[covert summit]

@sinful whale if the UCLASS was compiled while you are in the editor its possible hot reload failed

[sinful whale]

To be honest I'm not sure if subclassing SceneComponents is the right thing to do here because it's been really difficult to understand, really, the correct use cases for Actors vs Components

[covert summit]

in which case restarting the editor may make it show up

or, as in my case, when i compile my C++, the editor helpfully crashes during hot reload, ensuring that i always have the latest up to date version when it comes back!!

[sinful whale]

LOL quite helpful

Just tried that, and nope

[covert summit]

bummer

[sinful whale]

Tried compiling and rebuilding the project as well

This gives me the vibe that I'm doing something that most people don't do or shouldn't do

[covert summit]

well i mean if you have it built, then surely you can add the C++ scene component to a blueprint itself right?

if that works, then yeah its in the editor

[sinful whale]

Oh yes, that works just fine

But from what I've seen there's a strong paradigm of components having both a C++ segment for hard logic and a Blueprint segment for scripting and higher-level interactions

[covert summit]

ehh

as a programmer of 20 years, who is seasoned in C++ and many other languages, i prefer blueprint and i have yet to hear a good reason for why to use c++ over blueprint with only two exceptions: performance and "im used to it already"

performance is all fine and dandy, but more often then not blueprint (which is compiled to C++) will be OK

[sinful whale]

Honestly, as someone in the same boat, I'm quite impressed by Blueprint

[covert summit]

as for "im used to it", more power to ya

[sinful whale]

For a lot of stuff I don't see why I wouldn't use it, but I do feel a little bit silly doing loops and math and other more basic programming things with giant blocks 😦

[covert summit]

yeah i have managed to write 90% of my project in blueprint, proudly

there is C++, as i started from actionrpg, and sometimes you just have to even if it makes no sense

in those cases i try to punt to blueprint as much as i can, and only change it out when the perf is an issue

[sinful whale]

I'm doing a pretty basic 2D project so I don't think I'm going to be anywhere near any perf issues

[covert summit]

if you strive to be event-driven and not just use tick all the time, and especially you avoid casts during your per-tick blueprints, you can go very far

but i did have another idea

[sinful whale]

I should be just about entirely event-driven as well

[covert summit]

what if you make a SceneComponent BP and then use Class Settings -> Parent Class to reparent to the C++ base class?

maybe?

if that works, then the base class not showing up in New Blueprint is a bug for sure

[primal oasis]

Is casting particularly expensive then?

[covert summit]

@primal oasis so i have a very "systems heavy" project, where there is one BP base class for all characters, which has patrol logic, sense logic, etc. player characters are just that base character class as well (subclassed to add specific meshes and anim BPs etc). i have towns in my game that have hundreds of characters

i made the mistake of handling a lot of that patrol stuff per tick (still working my way out of that)

[primal oasis]

Ah I see

[covert summit]

i also had a bp lib that had a Get Game Mode BP and Get Game Instance BP (pretty sure i inherited these from ActionRPG from Epic ironically) which does Get Game Mode -> Cast to GameModeBP

my towns with hundreds of characters were getting 15fps on my Skylake i7-7700/GTX 1080Ti

[primal oasis]

What’s your target platform?

[covert summit]

the only change i did was to eliminate the "on demand fetch and cast" and replace with storing a casted reference to the Game Mode / Game Instance / Player Character / Player COntroller

bam, 60fps

i found out via profiling that each cast costs 0.009ms

[primal oasis]

That sounds smart

[covert summit]

but there were hundreds, thousands of them

per tick

[covert summit]

PC

[sinful whale]

Hmm doesn't work but I found something kind of interesting re: registering...https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/proper-use-of-uscenecomponents-and-registercomponent/29235

I'm going to investigate a bit more

I'm done with my paid software work for the day, time to do some unpaid work 😛

[covert summit]

same boat as me my friend 🙂

[primal oasis]

Is any guide available for profiling to get that kind of granular perf info btw?

[covert summit]

addicted to learning unreal

Yes! There are a few great guides in Inside Unreal playlist on the Unreal Engine youtube

let me see if i can fish some out

i have watched almost all of Inside Unreal, highly recommend

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=inside+unreal+profiler
the Unreal Insights stuff is useful, I think I either used that or the older profiler

[sinful whale]

This project has been a long time going, but hey I've learned a whole ton of things

[covert summit]

i found it with Window -> Developer Tools -> Session Frontend -> Profiler

[sinful whale]

Interesting so I cannot make a Blueprint that is parented by ANY child of USceneComponent even the ones that are already part of the engine

[covert summit]

Might I ask what the goal is though? what's going into this scene component?

[sinful whale]

Except the Blueprint class I already made that's a child of USceneComponent

Super weird, there's a pretty firm wall here

So basically I have a card game with 4 players. Each player has a hand and a discard pile and there are graphics to display each of those things. I'd like to make my graphical component that does that once and place four of them on the screen in four different positions in 4 different orientations

Given that the logic for all the state changes (draw/discard/etc) and animations will be the same for each of them, it's just a matter of putting them on the screen

[covert summit]

and the Scenecomponent would live on which actor?

[sinful whale]

I imagined I could have a single Actor representing the whole playfield to control them all - then each hand is a SceneComponent and then the hands have a bunch of PaperSpriteComponents as their children (so they're transformed in relative space)

It is entirely possible that I am not understanding how to utilize these constructs correctly because the docs are SUPER vague about what should REALLY be used for what

[covert summit]

simpler option would just be to have each player be an actor though

would be better encapsulation of the logic

also would easily let you scale to 5 players

[sinful whale]

Heh scaling to 5 will never happen due to the rules of the game, but I can definitely see how doing each player as an Actor would work just fine

[covert summit]

yeah the docs are very vague about what the right delineations are

i think its mainly because there are no agreed upon delineations

lol

[sinful whale]

TBH it's probably because this engine has been developed for YEARS and the lines have moved a lot and been made super blurry by people who tried/needed to push them at times

As always happens with long-term/large-scale projects

[covert summit]

oh yes absolutely, if a licensee needs something, or epic needs something, or a licensee upstreams stuff that epics ok with etc

lots of hands

[sinful whale]

Heh yeah

I have a friend who used to work on Gamebryo who said similar things

[covert summit]

and look at where it's gone, thanks todd howard!

😛

still cant climb ladders though

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/nz3meo/bad_news_about_the_ladder_from_todd_howard_himself/

anyway, i definitely dont think you would need to go C++ for perf for a card game, and also doing a more straightforward implementation with multiple actors that each have their own scene components should be easier and faster to implement and net the same result, unless you are doing some crazy stuff 🙂

[sinful whale]

I am really trying to avoid crazy stuff

TBH I wrote all this already in Pixi.JS (which is a lot simpler and 2D only) so I know it's not a huge deal

But trying to get a good handle on all the paradigms involved has left me more worried than I should be about painting myself into a corner

[covert summit]

oh it's programming like anything else

anything can be refactored :-)

though I have legitimately spent days doing the refactors, all with very tedious work

I used to have different base classes for different kinds of characters (something I inherited from actionrpg btw)

so I had PlayerCharacter, EnemyCharacter, NPC

but this is a terrible idea for a big systems based game

so when I decided that it was the wrong path I had to meticulously collapse all the behaviors down into one base Character class

the payoff was amazing, because now I can possess any character in the game, and all of the games systems work the same

enemy, NPC, player character, party member whatever

that allowed me to build a gameplay inspection in angular/nodejs with a web socket plugin, so now I can see all characters and their stats, status etc and possess them, kill them, etc. it has been instrumental in development

can play as the cow in the field if you want

[sinful whale]

Heh

Yeah that's super useful

They say you write everything three times

[covert summit]

very useful for debugging issues with the patrol system, as the characters have full day night schedules

[sinful whale]

I was able to get huge functionality improvements out of rewriting my game server (Typescript -> Rust). Perf increase from the language change, which was nice, but mostly just...doing it again with a better picture of what I wanted

[covert summit]

yep, grateful to have the chance to

i have rust on my to-do to get into, but I love typescript too much and have got good at milking perf out of nodejs

[sinful whale]

I adore TypeScript, was lucky enough to work somewhere that was really big into it (because, interestingly enough, they were REALLY big into C++ and felt TypeScript kinda "fixed" JS for them)

[covert summit]

it does fix JS honestly

when i run into a package on github written in plain old JS it bothers me

if i need to use it and they arent maintaining it, i fork it and refactor to TS 🙂

[sinful whale]

When it comes to servers, tho, I've taken a strong liking to Rust - I've been working with it for a few years now so I'm comfortable with it and I can write code that is INSANELY reliable. Being able to pinpoint every possible crash and be assured of no memory leaks is a godsend....dynamic languages can have trouble with that

[covert summit]

comes down to perf mainly -- if you need to soak every instruction out of as few servers as possible, then a systems language will win, and you dont have the GC randomly interspersing "zone outs" every so often

the kind of memory leaks you can get in GC'ed languages are the same you can get in rust ironically, the ones where you keep a reference

though rust will force you to decide that you are sharing that reference

and then shame you for it 🙂

[sinful whale]

Hahahah quite aggressively

[covert summit]

anyone else with general Qs feel free to jump in, dont let our banter stop you 🙂

[sinful whale]

LOL yeah just tech babble 🙂

[covert summit]

but yeah in my case it took me about a year to really get comfortable with UE and gamedev, and every step of the way i was doubtful that i could actually do what i wanted

then i put it down for six months, and during the pandemic i booted up the project i had and said "damn this is pretty good" and got hooked in, learning everything i can, tackling every feature that i wanted

huge ups to Inside Unreal, without victor and the folks at epic doing those live streams I don't think I would've hit the point where "i think i can do this for real" was a reality

[sinful whale]

I've been working on this overall project off and on for several years

I'm finally at the point where building a client is something worth doing

[covert summit]

so have you considered just using replication here though?

the server can be unreal too

[sinful whale]

I think that ends up being really wasteful TBH

[covert summit]

you might be right for something logically serializable like a card game

[sinful whale]

I have a very small amount of state data that needs replicating and some really basic events to send back and forth

[covert summit]

plus you could imagine having different clients

[sinful whale]

I think Unreal server would end up being overkill for that

Yeah multiple clients are a strong possibility

[vale flare]

Does anyone know how to use the same clothing data for multiple LODs on a single clothing asset?

[covert summit]

clothing being static meshes with APEX cloth?

[vale flare]

skeletal meshes with the Nvidia cloth solver i believe

i think it's newer than the APEX cloth

might still be apex but a different solver for it, i'm not sure, not too used to it

[covert summit]

that would make sense, i know little about this, just that APEX is/was the way to do cloth- what "clothing data" needs to be provided? things like stiffness or so to inform the solver?

[vale flare]

well so, yeah it's basically just parameters for how to cloth physically functions in reference to movement or other forces

but since i need to have LODs for my clothing, because otherwise it would impact performance too much, i need to replicate the clothing settings for it

[covert summit]

i think possibly #graphics would be the best place to surface it

[vale flare]

however, it's not letting me apply the same clothing data to different LODs

ahh okay

[covert summit]

kind of surprised there's not a "#meshes", indeed also surprised theres not "#lighting" but ill be sure to bring it to #server-feedback at some point

i guess also #nanite and #lumen are standins, though its breaking into the topic to ask about related topics that are not nanite and lumen 😛

[vale flare]

alright i'll try to fiddle with it some more and post there if i can't get it, if anyone else knows anything i'd appreciate any help

[covert summit]

but in any case, i would guess that whatever DCC package you are using, you have to export the cloth information per LOD that you export. If you don't want to explicitly do the LOD in the DCC package, you can use LOD groups / automated LOD within the editor (which is amazing) and im sure that handles scaling the cloth data for you, but your mileage may vary because its an algorithm [you may be surprised what it can do]

[arctic drum]

For the longest time I was using Unreal version 4.21 just cause thats what all my old projects were built on. Recently I moved up to 4.26 to try ray tracing since I have an rtx 2060, but now the engine takes about 8 minutes to load and sometimes when saving or adjusting materials I get "GPU Crashed or D3D Device Removed". Anyone know why these things might be happening on newer versions of UE4?

[covert summit]

@arctic drum what CPU do you have?

[drowsy snow]

Meshes and Lighting belongs to #graphics

[covert summit]

great, i guessed correct then 🙂

[arctic drum]

Intel i7 9750h @covert summit

[covert summit]

ok its not skylake, so its not my specific issue, but I had "d3d device removed" when the graphics driver crashed

and it crashed for me, because AVX512 instructions are bugged on Skylake CPUs

you are on Coffee Lake, so it shouldnt be the same issue (though a related one could exist)

It was one of many issues I faced that were solved with a BIOS update which enabled the Intel microcode update to work

you can check Windows Event Viewer to see if your driver crashed and was automatically restarted

it is crazy how often that happens on it's own without you knowing

[arctic drum]

where can I find windows event viewer

do I need to install this or is this on the control panel somewhere?

[covert summit]

tap "Start" button on your keyboard and type "windows event viewer"

its built in

[arctic drum]

nope

[covert summit]

i dont have an example of what you would expect to see if your graphics driver crashed

[arctic drum]

cant find it

[covert summit]

oh, just "event viewer" sorry 🙂

[arctic drum]

ak ok thanks

[arctic drum]

where do I go to see if it crashed or not?

[covert summit]

this is a bit outside the scope here, so you should do some googling, but the left has categories of events that windows records (things like System, Applications etc), and when you choose one you can see all the events recorded for your system. Look through the categories and take a look at the red error messages that show up. You should see something related to NVIDIA in one of the categories (probably System but don't assume so) if the driver crashed

check what it says, often it says "the device driver for device MY GPU was restarted"

[drowsy snow]

Try using older drivers.

Also, DX12 in UE4 is prone to crashing, for whatever reason.

[arctic drum]

would updating the BIOS possibly fix these issues?

[covert summit]

oh yeah if there's a control to tell the editor itself to use DX11 (i think there is) you can try that

[arctic drum]

ah ok

ill try finding that

[covert summit]

only update your bios if you have a good expectation that this is the cause

[drowsy snow]

just use the arg -dx11 when running UE4Editor.exe

[covert summit]

its error prone, and if you are not careful, you can brick your machine, and sometimes there is no way to recover, though most modern motherboards provide a way

[arctic drum]

ok, how would I know? I think I tried updating my computer's bios when I was like 12 years old and it somehow f*cked my hardrive up

[arctic drum]

yeah

[covert summit]

it probably f*cked your motherboard up

hard drive was probably fine

[drowsy snow]

As I said earlier, just try downgrading your GPU driver.

[covert summit]

yes

thats the least risky

[drowsy snow]

BIOS has nothing to do with this.

[arctic drum]

alright, ill also first try dx11 cause that fix makes the most sense.

I had to update my drivers for VR.

[covert summit]

normally its fine to use the newest drivers but when problems occur and it looks like the drivers are crashing, its a good troubleshooting step

im on game ready for 3080 Ti

everything's fine

[arctic drum]

cool cool

[arctic drum]

Does there have to be quotations when I put in the -dx11 command into the target thing in ue properties?

[covert summit]

no I think it'll work as is in the shortcut properties

if that's what you mean

[arctic drum]

kk

Damn I used the dx11 command and my project opened up in under a minute

I was waiting like 5-10 minutes previously

Any lag spikes I was getting were gone, Ill report back if it crashes again. Kinda weird that dx12 was so unstable and is the default setting especially if they're done updating UE4 now that UE5 is out.

[covert summit]

it is weird actually

but hey, if it's working you've found the culprit

[arctic drum]

yep, thanks @covert summit and @drowsy snow for the help!

[covert summit]

I can't imagine there aren't others in here with rtx 2060 who are in dx12 just fine

yeah maybe they just broke the latest drivers though

[arctic drum]

yeah, for total context im using an omen laptop with rtx 2060, i7 9750h, 16 gb ram, and 500 gb ssd with 2tb hdd though both have under 100 gbs left. Also the 2060 might be a mobile version rather than the full rtx 2060.

[covert summit]

yeah actually that could be it

I'd say that's almost definitely it, most users of unreal being on desktop, maybe not finding the driver bug

[arctic drum]

?

ah

Yeah also me not knowing whether I have a mobile version or not might be an issue cause I know they have slightly different drivers but for some reason my control panel and device manager doesn't tell me if its mobile or not. Just calls it an RTX 2060. So I assume they somehow got to fit the entire card in here or why else would they not say that.

I might try the mobile version of the driver just for kicks to see if that solves anything big or small

though might just break stuff, we'll see.

[covert summit]

but yeah for future reference for all (I've seen reports of this around), "direct3d device lost" means the device provider (the driver) ended the directx device session unexpectedly, which is a gfx driver crash

the Nvidia drivers are universal for the most part

[arctic drum]

hm, that doesn't sound normal. Yeah if issue persists next i'll install an earlier version. Then after that try mobile drivers.

[covert summit]

if you choose the wrong entry in the driver download wizard webpage, you will know because it will tell you

[arctic drum]

ah good to know, then the normal rtx drivers must be fine cause I never had any issue installing them.

guess they really fit an entire rtx card in a laptop

[covert summit]

that thing has mainly existed for quadro versus GeForce, but things could've changed

and I have evidence to say it has changed

[arctic drum]

huh, yeah and I can't imagine me using a laptop being the issue then because a desktop with the same specs could be easily built with no differences unless they have a special laptop motherboard or the powersupply is somehow messing things up.

[covert summit]

I installed that 3080ti yesterday, from a 1080ti before it, and yeah I got basic adapter at first until I downloaded a new driver

[covert summit]

nah it's probably the gpu itself

[arctic drum]

how so do you think then? Cause if im not getting any errors when installing the drivers then I have the same rtx 2060 a desktop would have right?

so why would a laptop be getting more errors?

[covert summit]

because this particular code path hadn't had enough field testing, because it's probably hit by the editor itself, which does more granular interactions with the gpu than any consumer game would

[arctic drum]

interesting

[covert summit]

so it crashed, and Nvidia barely knows it's a problem because two few people are hitting it on mobile gpus and submitting the error reports

[arctic drum]

are they really completely coming out with ue4 versions or do you think this will somehow get fixed? Cause it kinda seems like a big issue

I can't be one of the only people doing ue4 stuff on a laptop

[covert summit]

you should actually tell them about it if dx11 is great and dx12 nets you "DX device lost" then they should fix it

you'll need to give them enough info to reproduce it

[arctic drum]

customer service? I've been sending the crash reports

[modest trench]

there's a fix for the rtx flickering issue if either of you have it https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157

[covert summit]

there's an unreal bug tracker if you Google for it, but if you post it to Answers epic staff will route it

[covert summit]

is this the whole "editor turns white for a frame" situation? because yeah that had come up in the last day

[modest trench]

more like the context menu disappearing etc

[covert summit]

interesting, maybe related

[arctic drum]

Ill keep working for tonight, if issues arise again i'll try other fixes, either way Ill set a reminder to post there in the morning with all information.

[covert summit]

or my new gpu is bunk but let's hope not

[arctic drum]

did you bite the bullet and buy from a scalper or did they restock?

[covert summit]

I got 3080ti ftw3 on Amazon direct sold from Amazon for 1400 which is MSRP

[arctic drum]

nice.

[covert summit]

thanks to fixitfixitfixit

a stock alert bot service that is amazing

[arctic drum]

A friend of mine's gpu died when they came out and he said "ill just get one of the new 30 series"

rip to him

[covert summit]

oh no

[arctic drum]

I think he only just recently ordered a 3070

but he talked about buying one like a month and a half ago.

Been using integrated graphics and looking up LowSpecGamer videos

[covert summit]

The 3080Ti is overkill and overpriced unless you are doing gamedev, but 3090 would be better

that double VRAM is worth it for unreal editor

[arctic drum]

Yeah he mostly does blender as a hobby, and uses his 3d art student roommate's computer for rendering

[covert summit]

yeah DCC is certainly another reason to justify the ludicrous expenditure

but 3070 is going to be great compared to anything lower so, shrug

[arctic drum]

yeah, well I gotta get back to some things, thanks for the help guys!

[covert summit]

the 1080Ti got me a whole year of unreal dev but man was I praying I could use the new hw accelerated light baking-- ironically the project has evolved and with the day night cycle, it makes more sense to go full dynamic

still there are levels with no day/night that would benefit from static lighting-- for now the accelerated baking path will be useful, but with lumen looming...

it is the meme, its either light baking or cooking, but your hardware will be doing it while you sleep

more probably both

[mint raptor]

is there a way to have a packaged game stay alive and not throttle itself down when it's window loses focus?

[covert summit]

yes

in fact you shouldnt have that happen in packaged iirc

but it will happen with Play In Editor (PIE)

[mint raptor]

oh interesting, so a packaged game should be running and using resources the same active or inactive (focused or not)?

[covert summit]

i believe so

the editor itself does this

due to this editor pref:

Play In Editor is literally in the editor, so it will do that. But if you play Standalone or a packaged build, that shouldnt happen on its own

not that it would be unreasonable for it to happen by default with a project-level preference but i dont believe it does that by default, are you experiencing that?

[mint raptor]

My issue must be something else then

[covert summit]

hey i could be wrong, maybe it does this in packaged too

[mint raptor]

I'm trying to understand myself

Stat unitgraph and stat fps don't seem to indicate a performance drop

I think it might be something else

[icy cobalt]

Hey (Correct me if incorrect channel),

I was having trouble importing an asset I created in blender, it was appearing inside out or something. Any suggestions?

[mint raptor]

I'm not an expert with 3D modling tools but is it possible you can try flipping the normals in blender?

[plush yew]

Hello, I have a question, how do I make my character move by itself in a cinematic?

[covert summit]

inside out in the sense that you had to put the camera inside to see the faces?

[icy cobalt]

yes

[covert summit]

check out #graphics for those ones, im sure folks can help

[spring arch]

You need to flip normals on the mesh

[icy cobalt]

can you do that once imported in UE?

[spring arch]

You can make the material double sided

And you will see the other side always

[covert summit]

will have a perf impact, but acceptable if its not very high polygon

[spring arch]

But its more correct to flip normals inside blender

[mint raptor]

I'm pretty sure you can execute game function with sequencer

[icy cobalt]

I checked flip on import, didnt seem to change anything yet tho.. I also couldn't get usd export to work, so just using fbx currently

[plush yew]

yes, i need to make path animation

[mint raptor]

You can use splines to make paths

[plush yew]

hmm, you have a tutorial o something?

[mint raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXI91FdMtk

Once you can get that cube to follow a path

you can execute it and record it

in your case a character but with animations playing

[plush yew]

oh, thanks bro

[mint raptor]

Assuming you know how to make a character animate etc..

[plush yew]

yeah, thanks

[covert summit]

alternatively, if you already have it set up to use AI / MoveTo / navmesh, you could trigger that too, but the timing is harder

[mint raptor]

True ^

[covert summit]

on the plus side, you would be moving responsibility for foot sliding to a system that is built for it

[mint raptor]

You can make Waypoints and have your AI move to those waypoints

But assuming you've made an AI

Which for making a navmesh and using "Move To" isn't too bad

@plush yew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6KK0WaZwLI

[plush yew]

oh thanks, but... a lot of nodes XD

[mint raptor]

Think you can mix it up the spline can offer points to "move to"

[cobalt orbit]

is there a way to take the content from one of your projects and putting it in another one? i have the map being made in one world, but i want to move it over the the VR template once building it is done. Is that do-able?

[mint raptor]

Projects or map?

[covert summit]

yes you can use the Migrate option in the Content Browser to copy* an asset and all associated assets to another project

[mint raptor]

For projects yes, if you wan tto move from one map to another map in the same project you can just copy objects from one map's world outliner then open your new map and paste

[covert summit]

^^ yep

Sounds like you just want to build a world with a certain template (like fps or 3rd person shooter) so that you can play your map and then port it into a VR game and yes no worries on that

[odd barn]

for some reason i have 2 folders for the engine install. is this a problem?

i'm having trouble installing quixel bridge and i'm wondering if that the problem

[covert summit]

ahhhhmmmm that does seem weird

need to check mine though

yeah no that isnt normal

perhaps you changed a setting somewhere

but quixel bridge asks you what engine to install to

[odd barn]

i'm gonna try uninstalling and reinstalling

[covert summit]

^^ go for it -- but quixel bridge itself should ask you to pick an engine folder and if you pick the inner folder it should install it into that

if all else is working quixel shouldnt be the weak link

[odd barn]

yeah idk

[covert summit]

i think quixel also allows you to install its plugin into project, you could do that and skip the issue entirely

if you do that, then as long as the unreal editor starts up it should be fine

[odd barn]

everything else works its just when i try to export from quixel it says the engine isn't running

[covert summit]

i see yeah

i guess its possible the double directory trips it up

[odd barn]

well somehow i think i made the engine think i was installing it to the engine folder

because when i just started reinstalling the file location was set to ue 4.26

[covert summit]

but enjoy the free stupidly dense assets, I have :-D

looking forward to seeing this new in engine version in ue5

[mint raptor]

Quixel has given me troubles even in 4.26. Have to manually download the files from site, no fix worked for me

[covert summit]

interesting

[mint raptor]

UE5 got me excited for the integration there but it still gave me issues

[covert summit]

huh. it was really easy to set up for me

[mint raptor]

Well it would download but I didn't know where it was putting it and never found where it downloaded them

so that is probably a user error

Haven't spent too much time with UE5 though

[covert summit]

ohhh

it's supposed to offer you an export option after download, via the quixel bridge unreal plugin

you just do one more step after download and bam

[mint raptor]

I thought it would put the files in the folder I was performing the operation in

It would be like download and I never saw it

[covert summit]

in quixel bridge with ue4 it's an extra step, afaik in ue5 it should be drag drop

[mint raptor]

I'm off to bed now good night everyone

[covert summit]

take care!

[cobalt orbit]

ah awesome tysm

its like a festival so thought it would be good to make it for vr

[shell compass]

You know what would be nice for UE4? And I don't know if it already has this feature and I just haven't found it...

Marking any BP variable as "watch" to get them to show up on-screen while playing. Maybe even have some nice visualizations like histogram for floats and axises for Vectors and such.

Adding a print text node and printing a value to screen in order to judge how it updates is like the most common thing I do probably.

[wraith fog]

can someone give me a hint
https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/1035380/view.html

[regal ravine]

My screen texts are not showing :/ i am beginner

[final moth]

I keep getting crashes when I try to assign a material into the material slot

UE 4.26.2

also, when I try to report a bug on https://epicsupport.force.com/unrealengine/s/?language=en_US when I click "Submit Bug Report" nothing happens. Is this normal?

I can see this server is really busy 😄

[grim plank]

thats also a bug

[final moth]

should I report this bug also on the page which has a bug? 😄

[civic charm]

Try to delete save folder from your project file (don't delete it just move somewhere another place so you have backup)

[final moth]

I noticed that crash is caused only by particular material

[civic charm]

oh

[final moth]

If I put another material in the slot, the crash doesn't happen

[civic charm]

oh

[final moth]

but funny thing is that the problematic material works fine on another asset

[civic charm]

yha

[final moth]

so if you ask me, the ugly bug is in question which UE folks have to figure out.

[civic charm]

dk

[final moth]

but this is also not going to happen since their bug report form is also buggy 😄

[civic charm]

righty

[regal ravine]

there is no User Interface option in my ue4 :/

[civic charm]

use mouse scroll

scroll down you will find it

[regal ravine]

OMG!!!!!!!

thankssss

[civic charm]

your screen resolution is low that's why it not showing

[regal ravine]

:/ Not having too money yet to buy a good resolution screen

[civic charm]

its laptop right?

[regal ravine]

yes laptop bro

[civic charm]

ik

my laptop is 17.5 inch

wait let me send screen shot how it look

[regal ravine]

😮 wow! i covers everything

my one is 14 inch

[civic charm]

yha

[civic charm]

its fine

still you can make games that's whole point

[regal ravine]

Yeah trying to do

[plush yew]

any tips for designing a good main menu like I suck at it

[civic charm]

keep up bro

[regal ravine]

THankssss brother

[civic charm]

hm...

[plush yew]

yes

[civic charm]

thinking

[plush yew]

load fast

[civic charm]

sorry using i3

wait

[plush yew]

I guess the person using it is slow

[civic charm]

bro?

[civic charm]

nevermind can i call you?

[plush yew]

nope sorry me and my internet are both slow

[plush yew]

just kidding

[plucky grove]

Hello!

I am using a .bat file that launches my project as standalone executable (by pointint to the unreal editor and the project path)

Does someone know of a way to write the .bat so that one click on it will open two instances of the application and puts them side by side?

[civic charm]

Can i

[plush yew]

what

[civic charm]

nevermind forgot

[plush yew]

u tell me solution if u know

[civic charm]

Try to avoid image and use materials for user interface that what i can say

[plush yew]

oh

[civic charm]

great

[short obsidian]

I dont't know if it's good place but can you scale skin asset in the editor? I cant find the option for it

[civic charm]

hmm.........

[plush yew]

How can i cast to animbp from level blueprint? Whatever i do it is not working

And should i enable public for variables?

[regal ravine]

Why can i not connect to GameManager Variable?

[late grotto]

I have a problem with textures and tessellation. Which channel is the right one to ask for help? Im new to UE and this discord ^^

[fierce tulip]

#graphics

[late grotto]

okay thanks ^^

[regal ravine]

I also created a "GameManager" by Actor class. :/ But its referenced variable does not have any target pin

Following this tutorial to ceate screen widgets. 🙂

[viral marten]

how could I line trace my actor which is static and doesn't simulate physics?
I tried setting custom collision to overlap "Visibility" in my actor's static mesh component as shown in the picture
and this is what I tried in code:

GetWorld()->LineTraceSingleByChannel(HitResult, Location, ReachingEnd, ECollisionChannel::ECC_Visibility, CollisionQueryParams);

but it doesn't hit an actor

[plush yew]

ah the market place is down, meaning its that time of the month.

free assets are being cooked now.

[civic charm]

Are you able to find it out?

[autumn latch]

i am trying retarget to my robot character from mannequin, but something goes wrong. Can someone help me pls about this.

[civic charm]

you mean line trace not able to hit actor right?

[viral marten]

yes

[civic charm]

do block it will work

[civic charm]

What you can do is reposition gun

it will work i think

[viral marten]

oh, I thought it should overlap instead of blocking to work. But I got it, after you told me. It works now, thanks :)

[civic charm]

Np

[regal ravine]

Not yet! 1hours+ still trying

[civic charm]

can i call you

DM?

[regal ravine]

My english is not so good. Wait a minute

[civic charm]

same here

[autumn latch]

arm positions change

when i retarget

[regal ravine]

ok call me. we can try

[civic charm]

i will come to you give me min

[autumn latch]

okey

[drowsy snow]

It's currently Friday.

And July 1st was Thursday.

[civic charm]

i am saying try to rechange the position of gun

[plush yew]

what would be a better practise. Creating one camera shake bp and changing the values when needed. Or create seperate camerashakes for each event?

[small vault]

Does anyone know what to do with the 'r values that need to be versioned' list in the cooker settings? I get the impression that I could use it to vary these settings in builds but I'm not sure how? Do I need to expose my ini file so I can change them or something?

[broken heath]

Any method for moving folders without breaking out materials and linking and ruining the project? It all works normally till i restard my project and realize it lost all materials applied to meshes

[fierce tulip]

only move them trough the content browser, fix up redirectors afterwards. else you gonna have a bad time

[drowsy snow]

Inb4 "incompetent million dollar company" message cliche because of it

[broken heath]

Thats exactly what i do , and it still breaks materials and whole project :/

[drowsy snow]

Do you forgot to fix up redirectors? It's not automatically done.

[broken heath]

No I didn’t

I did fix up redirectors

But

I think i will do the manual relinkings and fixes as it’s not too complicated

[autumn latch]

i do that and i am change translation retargeting this fix my problem

[hard escarp]

I just installed a source copy of 4.26,2 and when I try to build it I'm getting this error..

Build started...
1>------ Build started: Project: UE4, Configuration: Development_Editor x64 ------
1>Using 'git status' to determine working set for adaptive non-unity build (E:\UE4.26.2).
1>Creating makefile for UE4Editor (no existing makefile)
1>Creating makefile for ShaderCompileWorker (no existing makefile)
1>Building UE4Editor and ShaderCompileWorker...
1>Using Visual Studio 2019 14.29.30037 toolchain (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.29.30037) and Windows 10.0.18362.0 SDK (C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10).
1>Building 5 actions with 8 processes...
1> [1/5] UE4Editor-EngineMessages.lib
1>E:\UE4.26.2\Engine\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UE4Editor\Development\EngineMessages\EngineMessagesModule.cpp.obj : fatal error LNK1106: invalid file or disk full: cannot seek to 0x6AF7
1> [2/5] UE4Editor-EngineMessages.dll
1>E:\UE4.26.2\Engine\Intermediate\Build\Win64\UE4Editor\Development\EngineMessages\EngineMessagesModule.cpp.obj : fatal error LNK1106: invalid file or disk full: cannot seek to 0x6AF7
1>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio\2019\Community\MSBuild\Microsoft\VC\v160\Microsoft.MakeFile.Targets(45,5): error MSB3073: The command "....\Build\BatchFiles\Build.bat -Target="UE4Editor Win64 Development" -Target="ShaderCompileWorker Win64 Development -Quiet" -WaitMutex -FromMsBuild" exited with code 6.
1>Done building project "UE4.vcxproj" -- FAILED.
========== Build: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 2 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========

Anyone have any ideas?

no

wish it was that

[drowsy snow]

#packaging

[bleak ginkgo]

ooh

ok ok

[sudden plover]

How long does it take to insert a script in ue5, for me it stays stuck on compiling for 30 minutes

[drowsy snow]

Just put the Player Start actor into the map.

[drowsy snow]

I don't know what script you're referring, but at least in UE4, compiling BP is instant, and Live Coding compiles pretty much the time it took to drink a glass of water.

Yes.

http://hotreloadsucks.com

[past basin]

they are the same class just renamed it right?

[light thunder]

How do I override a construction script if it takes place AFTER the child's construction script???

[haughty slate]

UE4 - I added a new trace channel and suddenly a whole bunch of stuff broke. It looks like what happened is that all my box and line traces lost their previously assigned trace channels, essentially getting bumped down the list and replaced with something else. Is this a known issue? Something I should have done when adding the trace channel to prevent this from happening?

[grim ore]

not that I have seen, and no it should not happen

[plush yew]

are there any videos or guides on sound design? in ue4 or in general I guess?

[narrow mauve]

Is there not a way to increase the line thickness of the collisions :..they are hard to see at the scales I have. Drawing a debug sphere lags tf out of my computer

[drowsy snow]

Have you get multiplayer replication working?

[grim ore]

you are in the third person example map, the one with the stairs?

[haughty slate]

Thanks, perhaps I changed the trace channels in the incorrect nodes whilst on a mind wander. Pretty sure I didn't though, odd!

[grim ore]

ok so which one are you trying to get this working in lol...

[drowsy snow]

Do you actually know about multiplayer replication, and get it working?

[grim ore]

your project or the third person template

[drowsy snow]

Because if you don't have multiplayer replication working, you're not going anywhere with the multiplayer mode.

[grim ore]

you just need player starts and the engine will handle spawning in your default pawns at those starts

thats it

sample map, 3 players starts, 6 clients all spawning where they should be

I did nothing special

do you have a default pawn set up?

do you have players starts?

you do it the same way in the sample project as you would any project, nothing special

so your map has multiple player starts in the level?

but...

yeah you only have 1 player start..

how can you expect to fix it if you arent using more than 1

your player start is in your place actor menu in the top left, you would drag them in or you can copy one in your level

[haughty slate]

I'm noticing that when I hover over a float output in the blueprint editor with a live debug filter, it sometimes reads the value correctly and at other times it says "variable out of scope". A print of the float is reading the expected value. Is this something I need to be concerned about?

[grim ore]

ok so thats a player start

also

that looks like ue5

so why are you in the unreal engine channel?

[drowsy snow]

Okay, I think I know your problem

[grim ore]

then why are you not in #multiplayer ?

and your just using it in single player right?

[drowsy snow]

Set your Net Mode as "Play As Client"

[grim ore]

so then why are you asking about multiplayer lol?

Im trying to direct you to the correct channel

[drowsy snow]

To be fair, most likely scenario to use replication in single player game is to use replay system.

[plush yew]

AttachTo: '/Game/FirstPersonBP/Maps/UEDPIE_0_FirstPersonExampleMap.FirstPersonExampleMap:PersistentLevel.FirstPersonCharacter_C_1.FirstPersonCamera' is not static (in blueprint "FirstPersonCharacter"), cannot attach '/Game/FirstPersonBP/Maps/UEDPIE_0_FirstPersonExampleMap.FirstPersonExampleMap:PersistentLevel.FirstPersonCharacter_C_1.Mesh2P' which is static to it. Aborting.

what is this?

trying to fix it but I cant figure it out

[grim ore]

but they arent

[plush yew]

Yea I figured but theres nothing static to it

its the standard firstpersoncharacter

[grim ore]

what is the mobility of the mesh you are attaching to it?

[plush yew]

it says mesh is ''static'' but no way to toggle it to movable

[grim ore]

how are you creating the mesh?

[plush yew]

its just there, its the Mesh2p

[grim ore]

where is there...

[grim ore]

is it a component in the BP? change it there. Is it a static mesh actor in the world? change it there. do you spawn it in? change it after you spawn it in before attach

[plush yew]

I must of pressed something

[drowsy snow]

Bloody hell. At least you get it working now.

[plush yew]

But I dont see where to not make it static

theres no mobility

[drowsy snow]

Also, please, UE4 in the meantime if you're just starting out.

[light thunder]

I'm trying to override a variable on a parent BP - but I want to do it in the construction script it possible - but I know this can cause crashes due to making an infinite loop using the construction script - I don't think I am doing it but I am getting crashes - I'm changing a simple float variable that changes a material parameter amount (basically the light intensity of a turn signal) - I wanted to be able to change that intensity based on the child, because some of them need more brightness than others - but unless there is some way to run a "get variable from child BP if it is using this parent currently" I'm not sure which way to go about it

They are trying to help you, take their advice and focus on 4 if you are starting out

[drowsy snow]

As a beginner, you have no concern about the lack of Nanite/Lumen and more advanced animation tech (which some of them already exists in UE4)

[plush yew]

any idea guys? 😩

[light thunder]

I can just about guarantee you I am more determined than you are - but UE5 is simply not ready - this is one of those rare times where it's not you, it's the engine

[drowsy snow]

If I were you, I'd just yeet the UE5 away from the storage, and install UE4.26 instead, and then use it for learning.

[light thunder]

and only some really, really experience UE4 developer is going to recognize what is missing in UE5

[grim ore]

they are not interested in learning ue, just playing with it. best to just leave them alone\

[drowsy snow]

No (it's less than 1 MB/s), but I've downloaded and installed UE4 since a long while.

[plush yew]

@grim oreyou got any idea what I messed up? I cant seem to fix it

[drowsy snow]

And it's not really hard - you can use the built in damage system to reduce the target's health point.

[light thunder]

Well shit - The moment I clicked on the instance in here, the editor crashed - 3 times now -

[drowsy snow]

One option is to cast a line trace (length depending on the weapon), and check if it hits a player class before actually applying damage event.

[grim ore]

@plush yewwhen do you get this error?

[drowsy snow]

You got a long way to go.
Learn with UE4 in the meantime (UE5 won't be production ready until sometime next year)

[plush yew]

instantly, and it moves my character down the floor aswell

[drowsy snow]

The problem is that there are some strange UE5 exclusive errors that weren't present in UE4.

[light thunder]

What's the way to find out the offending PIN in this error Assertion failed: OutPin->LinkedTo.Num() == 1 [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Editor/GraphEditor/Private/BlueprintConnectionDrawingPolicy.cpp] [Line: 506]

[plush yew]

its mesh2p but I dont know whats wrong with it lol

[light thunder]

You guys tried

[plush yew]

obviously its static but I got no idea how to NOT make it static

[light thunder]

pull off and set mobility to mvable

[drowsy snow]

[light thunder]

make sure you set it to movable before the joint creation is attempted

[plush yew]

not possible

[drowsy snow]

I have warned them, at least.

[light thunder]

Your conscience is clear, I thought you made a noble attempt

[light thunder]

type in mobility on details

[plush yew]

tried that aswell man

it just aint there lol

thats why I'm so confused

its telling me. oi! its static you dummy

but I cant change it to movable

[drowsy snow]

If it's a mesh spawned in runtime, it should be movable already.

[plush yew]

yea I mean its just the default firstpersoncharacter

[drowsy snow]

Like there's absolutely no reason for a mesh spawned in runtime to be static.
Though at this point, I'd just try to "reset" the template's FP character BP.

[plush yew]

yea its completely broken now

spawning under the floor

cant move

fuck me lol

barely touched it

[drowsy snow]

Guess try copying from the template folder, or using the barely used "Add Feature or Content Pack", or make new project with FP template.

[plush yew]

sigh

thanks anyway

[light thunder]

There's a reason why - it's not ready yet

you are trying to fly a plane that isn't finished being built yet

if you are a great and experienced pilot, you will probably make it get somewhere - but if you aren't, you are going to crash, quite literally

UE4, in this context, is as finished as you are going to find

Dude I AM a fox

[drowsy snow]

Cut the roleplay, and start with UE4.

[plush yew]

dudes just a failed troll, just stop pleas

[drowsy snow]

[light thunder]

@drowsy snow This is a weird editor crash - the moment I click on a particular function in a blueprint when the game is running, it crashes - (if it is targeting an instance)

[drowsy snow]

Just don't say that I (and several others here) haven't warned you.

You have the option to use UE4 in the meantime, and move to UE5 once it's fully released.

[light thunder]

I think there is a marketplace Plugin for it @plush yew

[grim ore]

while in camera move mode, scroll the mouse wheel to adjust the speed

[drowsy snow]

I bloody told you.

[light thunder]

I actually think Ian was right about the trolling

[drowsy snow]

[light thunder]

I actually need some help here - this blueprint connection drawing policy crash has stopped me dead in my tracks

I've tried undoing the changes to that function

[drowsy snow]

Okay, but what's the crash? You stopped at triple tilde.

[light thunder]

next step I'm literally going to delete the function itself and copy all the blueprints from the last perforce revision

[plush yew]

youre not learning, youre on here being annoying

[drowsy snow]

Learning means accepting advice from others who know better, and follow it. Not being an egoistic arsehole.

[light thunder]

You do realize though, that everytime you have a comment/line on here, it pushes up any questions people have so that they are less likely to be answered, right? doesn't mean you can't have a general chat but it's something to consider if people are asking questions, they have #lounge and other places to chill

Assertion failed: OutPin->LinkedTo.Num() == 1 [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Editor/GraphEditor/Private/BlueprintConnectionDrawingPolicy.cpp] [Line: 506] @drowsy snow

Then stop asking for it.

[drowsy snow]

Oh snap, Assertion failed... This is super random.

[grim ore]

You...Are..A...Bad...Person.

[drowsy snow]

This could be anything for all I know.
How about the crash log?

[light thunder]

@grim ore Assertion failed: OutPin->LinkedTo.Num() == 1 [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Editor/GraphEditor/Private/BlueprintConnectionDrawingPolicy.cpp] [Line: 506] how do I fix this blueprint editor crash - happens when I switch to the FUNCTION that that blueprint is on, but only when I'm targeting an instance during gameplay

[buoyant granite]

:clock2: ♡♡#5261 was muted for 2 minutes.

[light thunder]

wow

[spare kernel]

Please keep conversations chill. 🙂

[light thunder]

Looking up now - interestingly enough, when I simply deleted the function, the editor did not crash

but when I pasted it back, it crashed

[drowsy snow]

What kind of function is that?

[grim ore]

@light thunderyou might not be able to, it might just be a bug. without running a source build and crashing it in the editor you cant see what exactly causes it

[light thunder]

just toggles on material parameters to switch on turn signals

[light thunder]

Yeah, I'm pretty confident it's related to the BP assist plugin

I've had this happen once before and it was literally an execution reroute pin that wasn't connected to anything

and the editor/BP assist were not happy about that

lol I thought of that too

[drowsy snow]

Try disable any project specific plugins, especially the one you have suspicions on.
Again, assertion failure error could mean anything - it could stab the wrong code or processes.

[light thunder]

but considering I rarely have to mess with my wires and they are all laid out cleanly, I'll take it

[plush yew]

@plush yewhow old are you? did you just start with making games?

[drowsy snow]

Folks, let's dismiss them this time.

[plush yew]

how old are you? @plush yew

[gaunt abyss]

You are walking on a thin line, I advise you to calm down

I even just warned you instead of striking you and yet you are continuing

[plush yew]

sounds to me youre not even old enough for discords tos lol

[gaunt abyss]

Ok lets switch topics

[copper holly]

Why is there no tutorials/documentation on Mannequin Rig? Anyone know of any?

[inland flicker]

Lol muted for asking for help. This channel makes me giggle every time I check it

[light thunder]

Scroll up and judge for yourself

[copper holly]

The free rig of mannequin

[light thunder]

warning, you'll be scrolling for awhile

[copper holly]

Ill check that one out

but yes it does. The Control Rig, of the Mannequin Control Rig.

You can create your own Control Rigs, but they released a free mannequin control rig, animating with that etc is severely under documentated

[inland flicker]

@light thunder Unless some of their messages were deleted, it's pretty simple to judge but thanks for the heads up

[drowsy snow]

It works for weird rigs as well, even MMD standard rigs.

[copper holly]

Thanks

[drowsy snow]

Long story short: egoistic responses to advices.

[inland flicker]

I am able to read, thank you

[drowsy snow]

Animating it is just like animating any other movable objects in Sequencer.

[copper holly]

Thanks, is there a way to animate with Control rig inside stand alone sequencers, not a level sequencer?

[drowsy snow]

Level sequencer is the sequencer.
You can however bake it into animation sequence assets.

[copper holly]

Ya with create linked animation sequence, but once its a sequence asset can you animate further while having the Control Rig?

[drowsy snow]

If you're talking about runtime application - yes.

[copper holly]

ok thanks. I can't seem to get animations to run in the level sequencer on the mesh, it just animates the bones but i think that link might help I think I have to bake the animation in

[drowsy snow]

Fairly old presentation, but general points still applies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYSdxW2WHcI

[copper holly]

but half the time baking destroys the Rig etc or crashes

Ok ill watch that too, most just seem to go over how to create a rig for like an hour lol

[drowsy snow]

I never experience those, and I use control rig quite extensively
(though sometimes it tripped my GPU driver in older Windows 10 updates for some reason)

[copper holly]

Its probably cause I was mashing it together

[drowsy snow]

I have a research/machinima project where I tested Control Rig extensively, and with modular characters no less. The crashes would only because of D3D Device Hung after working with CR for an hour or so (which somehow not happening in Windows 11 dev builds)

[copper holly]

Well you should make a Youtube tutorial on your understandings cause severely lacking lol

[drowsy snow]

My equipment wasn't good for recording one 😅

[light thunder]

@drowsy snow LogBlueprintUserMessages: Warning: SetTimer passed a bad function (TurnSignalOnOff) or object (AI_Car_Source_ChildSportscar_2)

What does it mean to "pass a bad function" if you aren't overriding it at all?

[copper holly]

=/= actually

[drowsy snow]

Try asking it in #blueprint , I have no idea based on your description

[drowsy snow]

Sometimes article get straight to the point quicker than YT videos, but it's personal preference.

Though I might consider writing a tutorial for UE4 CR in my blog

[copper holly]

there you go 😉

even articles can't find poop on animating specifically with a control rig, let alone the provided mannequin control rig

have to slow down a video of someone showing himself animating at 5x speed lol

[drowsy snow]

I know for a fact that there are gimbal lock problems with a control that doesn't use Euler Transform, which can cause issues with in-engine animating process.
I wrote about this in UE forums, but I should make a more extensive writing on it, maybe tomorrow.

[copper holly]

basically ya.. slow down that 14 seconds because the guy went over it like its common knowledge which is probably is so i understand but ya fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLLIxOrvolc&t=302s

only video i found on the actual workflow

[drowsy snow]

I swear the older live streams used to be shorter and more concise, especially the era that I'd like to call "Alex era"

[copper holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyCziUcnqxM

thats where I came from cause it doesn't work the way he explained, you can't just add an animation like he did it doesn't animate

There isn't, but ok.

https://youtu.be/TYSdxW2WHcI?t=1288

this one is good though

[drowsy snow]

There's a reason I keep referring to that video time to time

[copper holly]

at 21:28 he explains the missing link basically with actually adding the rig in properly while others just kinda gloss over that they already did that or something

[drowsy snow]

But yeah, I'm prepping to write some tuts on using control rig.

[copper holly]

👍 thanks

thanks this ones good too at https://youtu.be/SIp4vFoU_d8?t=3176

although he still just adds an animation without baking or anything dunno how it just works automatically mine doesn't

sounds expensive lol

everything seems expensive but unreal always finds a way to optimize it

Like ALS just run time IK?

locomotion rather

[drowsy snow]

In a related note, I feel like this inspires Control Rig, and can give you idea on the applications:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjTU0yKS00

(removed my time mark)

[copper holly]

Thanks ya this helps

[elder crest]

so i got 6 out of 8 guns working. would anyone like to see?

[drowsy snow]

#work-in-progress

[elder crest]

oh that was just an epic picture i took. nothing to do with live streaming each gun

[copper holly]

Looks great

[elder crest]

thanks

i have 2 more attachments i gatta work on but before that im thinking about moving onto hit boxkes and health

[copper holly]

https://youtu.be/SIp4vFoU_d8?t=3213 anyone know how to add "additive control rig", this way doesn't work anymore it seems, additive control rig doesn't exist seems

[haughty slate]

I'm comparing line trace results to an array of physical material > surface type. When getting a reference from this array, should I be concerned that in the blueprint editor it says "variable is not in scope" when in-game everything appears to be running fine? Values are printing correctly etc

(this is with debug filter running)

[grim ore]

so your not pausing it right, just showing the variable while running?

[haughty slate]

Yeah just switching window to bp editor

[grim ore]

yeah thats fine, its not in realtime and it might be in a function. if the result is fine, then your fine. You can always breakpoint it to verify for sure (but your data is good so your fine)

[haughty slate]

Ok great, thanks for the reassurance. I just get very nervous when things feel unstable somehow!

[dreamy zenith]

does anyone know how to troubleshoot animation BP ?

[plush yew]

anyone here making a game similar to 2d Sonic?

[drowsy snow]

Nah, I'm more into recent Final Fantasy games.

[plush yew]

do you think 2d Sonic clones are overplayed these days?

[drowsy snow]

It's practically the same as debugging normal BP, except breakpoints. Select the actor instance that you want to use for debugging.

[plush yew]

I mean the main one in mind I can think of is Freedom Planet, but I'm sure there's others

cuz I kinda wanna make my game like it, but I'm afraid ppl will be like, "oh great another Sonic clone...😒 "