fab

[pliant forum]

I loved the blacklist, I also like the fact that shady behavior from marketplace creators was marked, even if it was unintentional on their behalf.
I made my own list with people to avoid/not buy from with great help from this spreadsheet

[eager kestrel]

There are still a ton of things the spreadsheet can't tell you about a seller though. Like how well they deal with their customers. How much they update their product. More I can't think of at the moment, hehe.

[slender estuary]

i mean they are basically inviting the practice since even in their guidelines they only state this

[candid rivet]

haha sorry to rekindle this conversation, i just got caught up and the list was in flux so i thought i'd just give my input, as i think that list is really valuable for the wasted accumulative time of all consumers

[slender estuary]

I just think that there should be a best practices section previously to starting a shop that gives you immediate flack if you do "certain practices"

on NONE of the existing marketplaces i was informed about misleading sale prices and when you are ending up on the sellers side and your product is not selling at base value, every change you do that is lowering the price constantly feels like "sale anyway" even though the public representation doesnt reflect that

they have a rule btw for that

and i think they do track "inflation"

[eager kestrel]

I'm sure they actually track it more detailed than I do, but whether or not they actively monitor and enforce those rules is an entirely different story.

I'd think it is tough for them to monitor and enforce just by going off of how much the marketplace has grown in the past year.

[slender estuary]

what is the "Rating" value btw

[eager kestrel]

Some formula the old spreadsheet used.

Give more weight to those with higher vote count.

So a 1 vote 5 star isn't rated higher than a 400 vote 4.7 star

[inland dust]

@eager kestrel I would not mind you making a list of the open source assets available and set it up like that table. That is very cool.

[eager kestrel]

You mean like everything else you can find for free on the internet?

hehe

[inland dust]

😛

[eager kestrel]

So easy to find free stuff, but finding stuff with that commercial license for free is tough. I want it free and want to be able to make money using it, haha.

[inland dust]

yea still trying to iron out our structure.

That is the thing. With some of these products they would make more money from donation based on the effort they put in. From what I have seen, most want to just place it there(MP) and forget.

@slender estuary How long has your product been there? How many updates have you made to it?

I think it is a perfect example of the MP.

[slender estuary]

I have started selling the prop pack end of June 2020 at 35 bucks. After 1.5 months of litterally no sales i brought the price down while being on sale to see if a sale plus a price reduction would help increase overall customer engagement. Then after that sale i increased the price to something more reasonably which was still only 45% of my initial base value. 2 sales after that I had made like 50 bucks overall and then it completely stagnated through 2 months which led me to increase pricing to 99$ to reflect the licencing "value" that people get on the mp, compared to what i sell on the artstation mp

I didnt do any updates to i in terms of content since its litterally pitch perfect as it is 😄 I believe in the work provided and the value sitting at 99$ rn is also not too low if you think about how much a company would need to spent to actually produce this ...

the pack was 2 weeks of fulltime work

thats around 2K of value

minimum xD

[inland dust]

Maybe you should rethink your business model but updates are my recommendations and I like to see that your trying. That alone will increase your sales.

[slender estuary]

@eager kestrel will you update the coloring on the seller names? 😄

[eager kestrel]

It will automatically remove them as it scans through.

[slender estuary]

I am on it atm - will spread over 3 plattforms now gumroad, artstation and ue mp

baseline prices will always reflect the "value" you are getting. You want the lower price you can buy the same pack on gumroad and artstation with a PERSONAL licence

[eager kestrel]

But I can select all and just remove it.

[slender estuary]

thanks for letting me know 🙂

[real dust]

What is your pack? If you're looking for constructive criticism, that is

[inland dust]

That is all good but it needs to reflect to sales.

[slender estuary]

my pack is the Medieval Cutlery Set

[real dust]

Because your numbers aren't in line with what I'm used to seeing from marketplace vendors

[slender estuary]

not at all man, i have no clue what i did wrong from the start xD

i let the price stay "clear" for more than a month and litterally nothing happened

[real dust]

Alright, so of the bat:

[inland dust]

maybe the deals you made with the creators for a product that has no market?

[real dust]

Price is very high for the amount of content. This is not relative to "how much time did it take you to produce", but relative to "what do other asset packs on the marketplace cost"

[merry field]

Just in relation to that, bear in mind that the value of Marketplace assets is based on selling it to many people, over the course of months or years

[slender estuary]

I am aware of that 🙂 I earlier already wrote a description of the process issues i see with selling on an international mp where local price ranges influence the base value of items

[merry field]

So you should (hopefully) make more money there than if you were commissioned by someone to make the piece for them specifically, but it will take much longer

[inland dust]

added the support and reputation of the seller. I buy things just because I want to support them. Not because I need it.

[real dust]

I think asset quality is adequate, but that brings me to the next point - your showcase images are not high-resolution enough to actually be able to clearly make out what we're looking. It's difficult for me to tell whether certain issues are there because of texture problems, or simply because of compression and scaling artifacts when looking at the images in fullscreen

[slender estuary]

give me your wisdom 😄 tbh i am still eyeballing prices atm

show case images cant be more high res

epic limits it

i had 4K pics

epic was like "nono"

to that

[merry field]

Just in general, I think inadequate presentation is a huge deal

[real dust]

You also seem to have depth of field enabled on some of these, which is problematic because it reduces readability

[merry field]

You might consider putting images on a 3rd party site, and certainly videos on YouTube for example

[real dust]

That's not right. It can't be. I've never had this issue with other assets

[slender estuary]

noted

[inland dust]

If people know you are going to keep adding more to the pack. More people will be willing to invest.

[slender estuary]

lemme check again

[real dust]

If you were doing a nice showcase scene with 'hero' shots, DOF would be acceptable on those, but as it stands, your preview images just do not give a very clear overview of what the quality you'll be acquiring is

[slender estuary]

here it states the allowed res

what do you think of the vid?

you know i realized

i dont have any clay renders in there ...

[real dust]

As for price, for the pack to make sense in the context of the marketplace, I think the pack should be close to $10-15. That sounds incredibly low, but the idea with marketplace assets is in sales volume, not price - especially on low-maintenance/low-support assets like mesh packs

[slender estuary]

fk me

i had it at 15

for 3 months

no sales xD

[real dust]

The images definitely do not look 1920x1080. I can see the pixel edges on my 1080p screen

[slender estuary]

Oo

[real dust]

For a pack like this, I also think you should be providing wireframes. Assets like these have to be low-resolution for game usage, which is the primary market on the UE4 marketplace

[merry field]

I must say, the cutlery is very blurry

I can't make out any detail

[merry field]

Do you have some very strong DoF or something there?

[slender estuary]

not sure anymore but yeah i tend to use a bit of dof usually

maybe i fkd up the distance? didnt looked bad to me though on my 4K screen xD

[real dust]

And then lastly... Just crank up your settings. Blurry/TAA'd shadows and AO don't make your assets look good. Crank up the settings to cinematic and render the image at 2x resolution so you can downscale it, so that you really get clarity on the assets you're buying

Like, here's a screencap of what I'm seeing

[merry field]

This is insanely blurry to me:

[slender estuary]

thats why theres a second pic that only shows that in the right angle 🙂

[merry field]

That's fair, but now the top of that pic is blurry!

[slender estuary]

xxD

[merry field]

But also, them being blurry in the first pic makes a bad impression, even if the later pic shows them clearly

[slender estuary]

alrighty i need to change my lighting, camera and render setup

i hear you 😄

[real dust]

I'm pretty sure that none of these issues are actually problems with the assets

This is not a case where I look at the assets and I go "yeah there's no way you can sell these", like it is in many cases

[slender estuary]

tbh i think the problem is that theres similar stuff with lower res and lower quality and ppl just need "more" of it not "better"

[real dust]

But the presentation lets you down and makes it difficult for people to see what they're getting. That's especially problematic because this is a very niche asset pack. Realistically, how many people are really going to need highly realistic medieval cutlery etc.? That doesn't have to be a problem, but you've got to make sure to stand out and be a convincing sell

[slender estuary]

thats what i tend to see

not many, i tried targeting companies that do archviz in unreal

[real dust]

Arch-viz isn't going to be doing medieval stuff though

[slender estuary]

yeah

[oak fiber]

I dare say, sir, my ballistrade needs an upgrade.

[slender estuary]

what xD

[real dust]

So tldr;

• Presentation is letting you down a lot
• Product/market fit is probably not the best, for commercial intent I'd recommend picking something less niche/with higher demand, simply because you'll have more interest
• Price is too high for the pack's contents

[slender estuary]

Thanks a lot for your feedback, appreciate it!

[real dust]

Happy to have these conversations, always good to see new creators, and nice to not get a "no u" tier response to constructive feedback 😄

[slender estuary]

yeah i dont see no u responses gettting me anywhere good xD

[real dust]

The marketplace is a great place to make money if you pick the right things to put out at a good quality, but it needs to be well thought-out like a proper commercial endeavour, making sense of cost of production versus demand in market context

[slender estuary]

and in the end it makes me sad that my artist spent 2 weeks on this and didnt get anything out of it so far

[real dust]

So anyway, for this, I'd lower the price again, fix up the presentation, and take whatever you get - but it's not going to be incredible, because it's very niche

[slender estuary]

true

[real dust]

And then if you're still willing to put more resources into the marketplace stuff, have a look where the gaps in the market are, and work off that

[slender estuary]

and too small compared to other vendors per item value offerings in the same category

[inland dust]

Maybe because it is awesome?

[real dust]

Yeah, but that can be fixed by lowering price, assuming your presentation is convincing enough to show that you're getting solid quality

[slender estuary]

honestly i thought it was a gap but then we realized ppl had badly named their sets and it was just damn hard to find the others xD

[real dust]

small niche product
There ya go

@fickle basin

It's a cool product, but realistically barely anyone actually needs it

[slender estuary]

yeah theres a diff between having competition and having NO competition in certain niches xD

[real dust]

And those that do may have strong doubts about the technical side of your pack, and prefer to implement it themselves

[inland dust]

or being blocked entirely lmao

[eager kestrel]

@slender estuary just for reference. I actually do need medieval assets, but I recently purchased this which covers a lot of props for cheap: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/medieval-props-kit-01

[real dust]

A gap means there's gotta be demand as well, though - in this case, even if there hadn't been any competition, it wouldn't have been a goldmine because there's just not much demand

[slender estuary]

you also working on a medieval game or what

because i do xD

thats why i am honestly biased toward the medieval item demand out there

[eager kestrel]

Yeah, medieval RPG

[real dust]

For what it's worth, I think, going off what I think your assets look like (though again, hard to judge), they're better than the one Slashin linked

[slender estuary]

kuwl :3

yeah i made sure we are top notch

[eager kestrel]

I got too many projects I work on, haha

[slender estuary]

but ye

fkd up presentation

[real dust]

So I'd be happy to pay more per asset than I would be paying on the Medieval Props: Kit

But niche as all heck

[slender estuary]

i always forget

[inland dust]

is a* pathfinding nitche too?

[slender estuary]

that the game i work on is a niche genre. at some point you get so engulfed in it and i mean , hundreds of people that are also in the same niche basically reference to medieval genres heavily all the time ... but in reality i should look more deeply into researching actual ACTUAL demand and base decisions on that instead

[real dust]

UE4's integrated navmesh system is pretty damn good for most people, so I doubt you'll get many people looking for a replacement

[slender estuary]

which brings me to the point that i have no clue on where to find proper information about this xD

[eager kestrel]

Another I recently grabbed to have more variety if needed. For $9 I couldn't pass it up: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/medieval-inn

[slender estuary]

haha yeah ive seen it 😄

[inland dust]

Yea it would replace it.

[slender estuary]

do you plan to replace them later on? @eager kestrel

[real dust]

And those that do realize they really need A*... Well, I'd expect that they'll have the know-how to implement it themselves, and would rather do so to make sure it's good quality and fits their needs and other systems

[slender estuary]

bcs thats what most ppl do - buy concept assets and then replace in development entirely

[inland dust]

I guess showing off features would be the only way to get the sale.

[slender estuary]

mayb biggest issue was that i couldnt fathom where to advertise the pack

like if you dont get on the showcase page you are basically fkd IF you are niche like me

[eager kestrel]

I have artists on the team, so whatever they decide to use or not. For some of my personal projects, I'd just use them as is and not replace since I have no talent in art.

[inland dust]

You think a dynamic a* system could get showcased?

[slender estuary]

a* is? i am confused

not a programmer 😉

[inland dust]

cell based movment

no nav mesh

ours can be added after level design and adjusted to any map size

[slender estuary]

Thats what I thought 🙂 Its the exact manner all indi devs operate in myself included.

[real dust]

You realize that UE4's navmesh basically is cell-based?

It just fills in a few gaps and rounds to corners

[inland dust]

yes but the things you can do with each cell being an actor is amazing

[real dust]

Each cell is an actor?

Many, many, many alarm bells are going off in my head. Actors have overhead. Having an extra actor for navigation tile in the world does not sound like a great plan to me. There's a very good reason these sorts of systems are generally highly abstracted

[inland dust]

I would post stat result but yea...

Event driven makes everything tick like a bell

[real dust]

Anyway, to actually answer the original question, I would personally deem an A* solution for UE4's marketplace a risky endeavour from a commercial perspective. Low demand, most people that need it will be able to and want to do it themselves, non-negligible cost, high maintenance and support workload. That's my thoughts on it

[inland dust]

Thank you!

Anyone know if it is possible to post a product on the MP and have it free at another location? That way those that want to support your work could buy from the MP?

Can a developer place their own marketplace assets in their git repositories? From my understanding, git repositories need to be void of marketplace assets. Does this apply if the developer created the asset?

[slender estuary]

You should read the marketplace guidelines for your first question

[merry field]

I think if you could do 3D A* that might be useful

But that's a really complex problem to solve

[inland dust]

I have it done

[merry field]

(At least, efficiently)

And don't do the cell = actor thing, I've tried that, it's a Bad Idea (tm)

[slender estuary]

@real dust when i learned ue 2 years ago no one bothered to share with me that i could adjust samples in engine xxxD Thanks again for making me re-check how to improve quality :3

[merry field]

By "3D A*" I mean fully 3D, e.g. pathfinding for levitating/flying characters

[inland dust]

yea it builds that way

like i said its dynamic height width length step high and jump hight

[merry field]

And can calculate e.g. flying up into a hole in the ceiling?

[inland dust]

yes each cell creates is own a* based on move range setting

so on cell creating each cell uses the move range to find all paths possible from that cell.

When a player moves to a new cell, That cell knows if can reach the cell it is moving to and knows the correct path already.

This allows for dynamic adjusting of cells to during run time.

[merry field]

Interesting enough, and I personally could use a system like that (but will probably create it myself); I'd say it's very niche though

[inland dust]

was fun to create that is for sure

[merry field]

I found it to be a very complex problem when I tried similar

But I had certain requirements that made it more complicated

Mostly, small, accurate cell size (which will cause it to need tons of memory to hold the cells)

(Though, even more so, it taking years to calculate)

[inland dust]

i like talking about this with you. Now i have to go in and fix my coordinates to include z. Thanks!

[merry field]

Just worth noting that you get an exponential explosion; if you have a smallish map of 1,000 x 1,000m, and you use 0.5m cells, that's 4,000,000 cells; if you have a 1000m x 1000m x 1000m, it's 8,000,000,000 (!) cells

[inland dust]

yea but the cell blocks can move so not an issue

[merry field]

Can move? Do you only calculate it dynamically around the movers?

[inland dust]

think of it as a cube of cells you play in that can move with you

[last mango]

Guys your moving way offtopic.

[merry field]

Yeah also that

[inland dust]

ok bye

[merry field]

We're talking about different things anyway, I think

[last mango]

Continue in DM or head over to #ue4-general

[merry field]

In any case, final point: That's super-niche, almost no one will want to buy it I'd say

[inland dust]

it will be free anyways

[merry field]

And something similar already exists actually https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/don-s-3d-pathfinding-flying-ai

[rapid shadow]

I forgot that the sale ends at 12:00 am the day after the sale. Lol yay another day of thinking about what to buy

[silent mesa]

hmm, this is interesting
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/usurfacemesh

[slender estuary]

looks nice

oh damn thats EXACTLY what i was looking for just a week ago xD

https://tenor.com/view/whoop-the-office-steve-carell-gif-4709112

[slender estuary]

dude you just made my day! thanks 😄

@quaint cedar has the link been reinstated after the blacklist part was removed? if not i´d like to request it being PINNED bcs its a highly valuable tool to learn about pricing and to follow up on cost development of certain products 🙂

I also spent quite the huge amount of time yesterday reading up on german law on the matter "misleading prices".

Excerpt from "Gesetz gegen unlauteren Wettbewerb".

[slender estuary]

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/N.C._Gen._Stat_§_75-1.1:_Unfair_%26_Deceptive_Trade_Practices_Under_North_Carolina_Law

@eager kestrel Did you read this? 🙂

I am revering to nc law since epic is sitting in NC after all and the seller contract is stating the law of NC has to be applied

misleading pricing is part of the definition of unlauterer wettbewerb

but the german law doesnt apply anyway

in this case at least since the marketplace is run by epic. now the funny thing is that in NC law the PUBLISHER is excempt from the UTPA meaning epic has no incentive legally to change their behaviour

so theres no reason for them to implement tools that prohibit price changes pre-sales or fixate prices for a certain amount of time after setting it

since legally the SELLER is responsible for the actions

the problem with that notion though is that they should be aware that nearly no one that sells on their marketplace does it professionally, or most ppl dont have an education that comes from "sales" where you would have common knowledge of laws and best practices

meaning they should at least ethically make the decision to create toolkits that either prevent misinformed behaviour or basically PROHIBIT it since the baseline as someone already mentioned here gets hurt by (me included) sellers making weird pricing moves

[hasty nexus]

still on this?

oh really?

all I can read is someone keep trying to blame others or finding excuses for his bad decisions. Trying to justify yourself through some laws or whatever is not helping either. IMO, rebrand yourself and start over.

it's not like you're losing any business

and the fact that you went straight for the Moderators when you should've wait for Slashin8r to respond to you and fix the problem if there was a problem is not doing you any service at all.

[slender estuary]

@hasty nexus all you are showing is that you are not interested at all in having a conversation and instead want to misleadingly judge someone on bad data

Dont understand why you are so offended by having an honest conversation and learning about the law 😄

[hasty nexus]

I don't care about any of this and it's just an honest opinion. I don't believe that you did it without any ill intentions not that it matters.

it's you that decided to bring it up here, publicly, so i'm entitled to an opinion.

[slender estuary]

ok let me repeat this - i had a price sitting at 35 bucks, didnt get sales, slahed it to 25% before sales, then put it up to 50% of original price since i realized i´d never make anything with that and kept it at 50% of initial pricing until i started selling on artstation with new licening types which was when i upped the price to reflect the overall value i BELIEVED ppl would be getting out of it.

1. no one has ever paid more than base price on my products.
2. the only one hurt from this stupid price changes was me xD

i reduced the price IN the sale

i REDUCED it

do you even read xD

look at the list man xD

[hasty nexus]

same

[slender estuary]

reference the dates

i went into the sale with my base price

didnt sell a thing

reduced the pricing bcs i was pissed and wanted to know at which point ppl would actually be willing to pay for the product

so what exactly do you take an issue with @hasty nexus on someone that dramatically reduces his prices xD

[quaint cedar]

Hm, I think it's pretty clear what people are against and what they don't care about.
You can change your prices as much as you want outside of sales.
Obviously it's weird if someone jumps between multiple 100% of their original price a few times, but if it's your very first product on the mp, then I could care less.
What hits really bad is if you modify the price before/during sales.
The customer sees your product and sees a 50% sale on it. So they think that the product can be bought for 50% of it's actual value, which is a good deal.
If you however increase the price by 100% before you reduce it in the sale, you make the customer believe they save money, even though they are paying the original base price.
And that's not okay. I assume you'd also go to your local stores or online store of choice and buy things that are on sale with the actual sale price and not some constructed fake sale
Like, imagine you buy a new coffee machine on amazon that is 50% off, only to realize afterwards that they moved the price around, just to make you think you saved 50%.

[slender estuary]

@hasty nexus and its not like you havent worked with the same system here - you started with a low ball, then went up to a high ball and since then have been reducing your pricing in order to figure out what people would like to pay for your tool. You started around the same time as me and you did even more price changes than me xD

yeah but i did never INCREASE the price pre sale

[hasty nexus]

yea, with everything announced through discord any forums 2 weeks in advanced. and my products evolved in time

[slender estuary]

i DECREASED the price MID sale

then why do you slash prices?

[silent mesa]

I think I found the inventory that can easily be merged with several assets. It also has a lot of tutorials.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/pro-inventory-component

[quaint cedar]

But you increased it before the sale, or not? You said so before

[slender estuary]

no

i did not

[quaint cedar]

You literally said yesterday that you can be called out for that

[slender estuary]

i increased the price after the sale

yes because i did price changing

[quaint cedar]

Idk what everyone else is talking about, but I only care about the fake sale prices

[hasty nexus]

in that list you show, the price on 7th August goes for 3.49 to 6.99. august 7th was the sale vent

[slender estuary]

the second list is the list that shows all the prices affected by sales

you need to reference the base prices

you can see that i do the reduction on the same day as the sale starts

halve a day after the sale started

[spring flax]

How do I get marketplace content onto a custom built engine? do I need to download it onto a standard engine and them copy paste it across?

[slender estuary]

then in the next two sales i did not change a thing xD

[quaint cedar]

Depends on what Content we talk about

[slender estuary]

so i got blacklisted for slashing prices xD

[spring flax]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/photoreal-background-mountains#

[quaint cedar]

Assets can be migrated, yes

Yeah you could add them to the same engine number and then migrate them over

Or just copy paste the folders

The only ones you have to actively do something for are the code plugins

Cause there you need to recompile them

[spring flax]

ok thanks

[slender estuary]

which engine version is your custom build version from?

[quaint cedar]

Just make sure the engines are on the same number, despite your custom changes.

[hasty nexus]

so did you make any sale with the $99 price?

[spring flax]

last oculus quest 2 github one

[slender estuary]

nope Oo

i did not take part in any sales lately

[spring flax]

gonna give it a go thanks for the help

[slender estuary]

i changed the pricing AFTER i published on artstation a week ago or so

and thats just the thing, even this will change because of the input i got yesterday

i will definitly have to revamp my strategies 100% and its great that i got to have the conversations i had yesterday

teached me a lot

@hasty nexus back to the "professional seller" thing though. I dont know how well your product is selling. I did defintly look at it more than once in the past since its really interesting (but usage may vary on what actually plan to develop i guess). When you consider yourself a professional seller I understand that. But pls remember how much pure art you see on the marketplace and appart from a few outsource studios thats purely art from single artists, solo freelancers that basically try to make something on the side. They did not have ANY education previous to starting to sell on an mp that should make you believe that they can make properly informed decisions.

[hasty nexus]

listen, probably 99% of the people on the MP don't have any marketing education. you got yourself into a bad place yesterday when you came here. otherwise you were just fine.

i mean not fine, cause your product wasn't doing well, but no one knew about it

[slender estuary]

I never said it was anyone elses fault? I dont know what you are talking about thb xD

[hasty nexus]

in Art section, 3D, vFX sFX etc i bet most are hobbysts

[modern perch]

FYI, Epic shouldn't have allowed you to raise your price right before the sale, then still put the product on sale anyway

[slender estuary]

Well like i said, my responsibility is to get this thing going since at least 80% of the procedings land in the artists pockets that i partnered with.

and being marked in a blacklist definitly doesnt help 😄

[hasty nexus]

sorry to say but it's your fault your partner failed with those assets.

[slender estuary]

Thats not an excuse lol xD

it definitly is 🙂

[hasty nexus]

when you partner and commit to a service you have to deliver

but that's something else

[slender estuary]

but then again the blacklist made decisions based on information and rules that where badly designed

and if you cant see that then i honestly dont understand where your point is

i landed on the list after slashing prices overall

the rules where "price changes during or pre sales"

[hasty nexus]

well, i see it now, when i correlate the data

you're not a thief, you're just not there yet,m especially not ready to partner with artists and promise sales

[slender estuary]

see

thats my point xD

[modern perch]

raising the price right before the sale (to five times the original value), then putting it at a discount is the part people have a problem with

[slender estuary]

yeah we all have

also its illegal 😄

[hasty nexus]

and those price jumps are insane, from 34.99 to 3.49 to 99

that's insanity

[slender estuary]

trust me after 1.5 months of zero sales

i felt pretty insane

and for me, i definitly do this on the side

[hasty nexus]

it took me one month to get down the price down 20 dollars after I overestimated stuff. because i didn't want people that bought it at that price to feel offended.

[slender estuary]

so next to my main job and 2 other productions

[hasty nexus]

and not 20 dollars at once =))

[slender estuary]

you couldve reimboursed them too or not? not suggesting you shouldve but that wouldve been my solution if i wanted to change a price quickly DOWN at least

[hasty nexus]

have to live through own mistakes 😄

[slender estuary]

anyway - dude your content looks thick, i would love to sometime get it and do something with it :3

[modern perch]

yeah, you can ask Epic to reimburse people in those cases

[slender estuary]

you can?

i honestly didnt think we had much of a way to contact epic in any way as sellers xD

[hasty nexus]

they have an email address and website to log an incident

[slender estuary]

[hasty nexus]

pinned

[slender estuary]

-_-

wowowow

thx xD

[hasty nexus]

you didn't see that one =))

[slender estuary]

tbh i didnt check the pinned section of this section of the discord before xD

[hasty nexus]

so? what is the next price? 😄

[slender estuary]

i think i go back to 15

tbh

[hasty nexus]

15 is honest price

[slender estuary]

someone gave me good feedbck yesterday

I am not sure though if i should unpublish and republish with better showcase content though

the whole ... thing ... is kinda mess atm and i have to rethink the strategy i am taking with the storefront

the idea initially was to do a middle section between archiz/visualisation and high quality game art

but i think its too small a niche

[hasty nexus]

can't give advice to that, i'm very bad at marketing and advertising my stuff

[slender estuary]

you are xD

its ok, do you want me to repeat or do you just read the rest

and on your reply - i do not justify my actions. you can call me an idiot for the moves but i am definitly not an asshole xD

[hasty nexus]

that's because you're from a rich country. no one tries to scam romanians... i'm lucky on that

:))

[slender estuary]

i never get calls

i dont have a phone

xxD

and my mobile is turned off 99% of the time

[hasty nexus]

getting back to you @slender estuary. you tried to justify and placing blame. and that's what brought you the shade

[slender estuary]

yeah i talked that part out with the creator of the list

can send you the dm youll see xD

[hasty nexus]

i believe you, but that went after you went berserk here

first you called out the mods for bad practice :)))

[slender estuary]

You never seen my convo with the mods about my scam dev list? xD

I had a huge fallout about that when i wanted to create a list of bad faith actors (offtopic btw)

so i had a personal reason to be mad that this other blacklist was "allowed" to exist. I spent a considerably amount of time arguing why we SHOULD have sth like it xD

[hasty nexus]

so, let me get this straight, the artist you're partnered with gets 80%?

[slender estuary]

wait lemme pull the contract

[hasty nexus]

no

[slender estuary]

its fine

excerpt

[hasty nexus]

ok

poor guy could've published himself at $15 and keep 100% of something than 80% of nothing

[slender estuary]

yeah the thing is the artist i partner with are all friends or colleagues with fulltime jobs

and we just decided to get together as a group and i am the dumb f that is ... ehm self important enough to believe i can "just do it" (being a seller and all xD)

[hasty nexus]

does he know?

or he just thinks MP is not that good?

[slender estuary]

nikos stuff hasnt been published yet

[tame compass]

So you collect people to create asset for you to sell ?

[slender estuary]

and he knows yeah

no i dont collect them

i already know and work with them

this is our "side run" to get something on the side while doing the work anyway

[hasty nexus]

they were like, look, we're artists, we don't have time for all that bullcrap, can you do that for us?

[slender estuary]

nah i was like "hey you have those assets laying around and we all have budget issues anyway so lets sell them if we can"

[hasty nexus]

oh ok, that makes more sense

[slender estuary]

why i tried to give them all the sense to have full control

thats why they are all handpicked and from my "own rooster"

so ppl i worked with before

[hasty nexus]

and how are the sales going on artstation?

[slender estuary]

none xD

the price is too high

the value too low

[hasty nexus]

that should trigger an alarm

[slender estuary]

oh yeah it does

[hasty nexus]

start over.

[slender estuary]

i will

meeting for that is tomorrow

we will be discussing the core of the store and rethink the approach

[hasty nexus]

i also want to rebrand myself. Yaki Studios doesn't represent me anymore. Just have to figure how to make a smooth transition.

[slender estuary]

oh i like the brand i have

and i dont mind the public flack it got through the last 24 hours, thats fine - I am sure our products will reflect the actual value you are getting as soon as we have settled a bit more clearly in a certain section of the mp

but its so damn hard to gather information on digital sales especially regarding 3D models

i can only reference my own needs atm

which is bad data to make decisions on

[hasty nexus]

🙂

it gets lost in those thousands of assets. true

[slender estuary]

yeah i did some research before deciding we would try and do a medieval prop pack

later found out that there where tons of them

but badly named

badly categorized

so hard to find

[hasty nexus]

@fickle basin cant say, it overlapped with black friday event. but i did good enough i believe

[slender estuary]

i am sure you did. its still twitching inside me to "just get" xxD

but i had to prioritise expenses 😦

[hasty nexus]

😄

[slender estuary]

wth? xD

[hasty nexus]

maybe the product that generated you that revenue had that something special

it looks interesting

[slender estuary]

whats your product @fickle basin

[hasty nexus]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/simple-gravity-fields

[slender estuary]

do i see l trees there

weee

what xD

yeah they often have that .. issue

i had an interactive niagara fog in development

they rejected it also

i didnt think you can talk to them in that case?

this good to know

i love talking

xD

[hasty nexus]

i sent them a feedback regarding the showcase rotation. they should continue handpicking the products that should be part of the program, but every time the page loads they should be randomly taken from the list.

it seems like a good idea to me

[slender estuary]

do you get notified when you are showcased?

[hasty nexus]

offering equal chances each day to everyone to make it on the showcase page

[slender estuary]

so our product didnt even make the cut there

ffs xD

its rework time man xD

[hasty nexus]

yeah, hard to get noticed. and if you just publish a product and you mess up the description or whatever (like i always do) you lose the biggest opportunity to make sales 😄

[slender estuary]

Yeah i fiddled a bit with the description too

usually i dont have issues selling stuff but i think theres a huge difference with selling myself and my skills and selling an actual "item"

[hasty nexus]

this guy Divivor makes it cool. maybe pay him for some thumbnails, some nice photos and he can sort it out

that first impression makes the difference

looks good man

[slender estuary]

anyway - i gotta do sth else than sit in here - thanks for your time and letting me state my points @fickle basin @hasty nexus

[hasty nexus]

bye

[modern perch]

or you could post in one of the job channels instead of a totally unrelated channel?

[delicate dove]

@abstract axle could you please read the #old-rules and post in #freelance-jobs or #salary-jobs depending on your need?

[supple moon]

yo, trying to buy something last minute on sale and getting incorrect response when trying to log into epic games anyone know whats up

[merry field]

Website or launcher? And if one, try the other

[ebon leaf]

I just bought plugin and it says only "create project". Does this mean that i cant get any of its content out to my wip projects?

If so, can i refund it somehow. Just got it.

[real dust]

You definitely can. Just copy the folders in the project it creates to your own projects.

[digital bough]

Hey guys, I bought a gun model in marketplace and added it to project. But they are just empty folders in unreal...and when I check them in explorer, there are bunch of uassets here...

It seems the uasset files cannot be read in my unreal?

[raven ferry]

this happens because you are opening a new asset in an older engine version

You can open an 4.22 asset in a 4.25 project, but not the other way

and it's probably the sellers mistake if you did everything right

[digital bough]

I restarted engine and it didn't work. I think @raven ferry is right... it works good in 4.25. Thank you both! @fickle basin ☺️

[thin turtle]

Anyway to buy it?

[thin turtle]

sad

[fair patio]

Hello, I'm trying to publish a 2D background asset to marketplace. I have it in other sites as a free asset, but somehow Epic store doesn't give an opportunity to publish it as free. Did I do something wrong?

[rapid shadow]

For those who have tried Able Ability System what do yall think about it?
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/able-ability-system

[merry field]

@fair patio Epic are very particular about what they will allow to be free on the Marketplace

[fair patio]

@merry field Okay, thanks for the answer! 🙂

Also does anyone know a good tutorial about publishing assets to epic store? I tried to search it but I just found tutorials about unity asset store. If you can link it to me I would be really grateful! 😊

[thin turtle]

Try this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_m79Zk_nxM or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecE9QiSFn8E

[fair patio]

Thanks, I'll watch it!

[merry field]

There's also a tutorial I wrote in this channel's pinned messages

(Though I may have over-complicated things by telling you to zip manually instead of using the built-in zip project feature)

[topaz harness]

@slender estuary lol price gouging then telling people to take you off of a black list for pruce gouging because it hurts your bussiness? Kinda the point of a blacklist wouldnt you think?

[slender estuary]

did you read the whole conversation?

or are you just here to hurt someone

bcs it reads like you are just some random angry dude that didnt even check the numbers on my sales list.

maybe before doing judgments do your homework first and then you can talk an honest talk with someone. but not like this man ... "oh i have you now because some random dude on the internet said you are XYZ" xD

Additionally to that willingly hurting other sellers ... is that really what your goal is? wow

@topaz harness read it, inform yourself. base your decisions on knowledge not on believes ...

[inland dust]

The point is not any list. If people say one thing and they see another, they can make up their own mind. There should be nothing to worry or care about if you are doing your best. People will see that.

Actually, to keep this going conversation it just brings more negativity that you don't need. Unless, you were like me and that is your goal.

Don't get me wrong though, I understand the frustration. For our studio, we have been a part of this community for 2 years and are very thankful for for it and everything we have learned here. It would be nice if the community was able to back each other but in this case you should pick your battles and this one is not worth fighting.

Good example is the ESO issue and no one supported him @final igloo 🥰 in that conversation. Very disappointing.

[slender estuary]

I dont know anything about the ESO issue xD

[inland dust]

That is the thing. It is totally market related. You have a plugin that has the market for ESO. The developer listed a free version that had issue with a clause that stated no support. Then you have the paid version. It was a mistake and you know what happened? The developer worked on fixing it. Good on them. The point I am making is that in this market there are times to push and times to halt. A lot can come out of a push if done right like in the ESO case. It got fixed and I have seen it here more respect from higher places.

some people a realists some are not

[slender estuary]

I am confused xD

[next badge]

are we still in this discussion

damn

😂

[inland dust]

lmao I find it funny that the only thing that upsets me is that dang dog with fire.

or it could just be the way I have seen you use it

[merry field]

Raising the price when you know that you have already signed the item up to be in a sale event is wrong, I thought we'd moved past that? You acknowledged it was wrong and won't do it again, doesn't change that it was wrong.

Why are we still arguing about this? /o\

[slender estuary]

yeah i didnt raise

i lowered

xxD

which anyone couldve known if they wouldve done their due diligence to actually read the doc instead of just immediatly firing away

which just shows that the blacklist was "bad" from the beginning if the rules applied where able to land someone there for lowering prices mid sale -_-

but some guys like @topaz harness dont care about actually reading the convo and just go and randomly flame

he wrote gouging 😉

and thats the thing that started the whole argument xD

and if he actually read that we finally decided the right wording for it would be misleading and we all said its wrong

but dont expect me to let some random lazy man to spout this nonsense about my store publicly

and i didnt want to ping the mods again xD

[thorny compass]

... ah, still the 9 to 99 case 😄

[slender estuary]

no

ffs ryobg

[thorny compass]

I'm joking 😄

[slender estuary]

i dont know why i even try to have good conversations with ppl honestly xD

[thorny compass]

We need a flame channel

[slender estuary]

!8ball Is this a good idea?

[stark phoenix]

@slender estuary, :8ball: Outlook good.

@fickle basin, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

[next badge]

!8ball should we continue this conversation?

[stark phoenix]

@next badge, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[next badge]

Ahh shit

I was hoping for the other answer

!8ball is Divisor the chosen one?

[stark phoenix]

@next badge, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[next badge]

Oh no

[inland dust]

that put me in tiers

[stark phoenix]

@fickle basin, :8ball: Most likely.

@fickle basin, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[stiff pond]

So I've been trying to make heads or tails of this chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a-sJ0cvmgSiXToD1GxjCED6e1993ZytTB5oAZ9bb8YM/edit#gid=1114449252

Is there a legend somewhere for what the colors mean?

[eager kestrel]

@stiff pond There is another tab to the spreadsheet, literally called "Legend" now.

@slender estuary just to clarify, the only price change that flagged you for the blacklist was the change on 11-22. The blacklist was not even implemented until 11-24 after I saw how many people were increasing their prices for the Black Friday sale. Your product never actually went on sale for this, but I did notice the price go to $100 from a starting price of $35 and its direct previous price being $15, so I immediately flagged it. Not a single person was blacklisted for any previous sales, so all that other info is irrelevant.

[merry field]

So, it got flagged because the price went up before the sale, but it wasn't actually in the sale?
Sounds like the logic there was wrong.

[slender estuary]

Mistakes where made i guess

and honestly for me appart from the anger it was a healthy lesson

because i finally took the time to sit down and learn about sale practices and law

which i shouldve done PRE starting a selling account honestly

[slender estuary]

Shots fired xD

[eager kestrel]

Nah, nothing personal or anything, just wanted to explain how it all happened in the first place.

[merry field]

4.26 has been out for 43 minutes, and still no tickbox for it on the supported product versions page 😡

[slender estuary]

I was joking

[slender estuary]

Sad!

[merry field]

And there it is!

[slender estuary]

[raven ferry]

Do you guys think this is a good idea? that will never be implemented

[pliant forum]

Damn you tricked me, got excited for a second

[raven ferry]

😂

[pliant forum]

Updates/Change-log should be on their list though, It's been brought up on Creators Hub several times I believe

[raven ferry]

The changelog text is real though. @rapid silo is one of the good guys that keeps their website updated

[pliant forum]

I made a feature request for this subject 3-4 months ago and got a reply from a senior manager from the MP team

Sorry for the silence. I can confirm that we have captured this request in the Marketplace backlog. I have no estimate on when this feature might be added, and we have a lot of other features and changes we'd also like to see implemented in the future, so I'm not sure where this would fit in.

Thanks for the feedback, it's always appreciated.

Josh```

[thorny compass]

I respect sellers who puts a link to their Change log

[raven ferry]

ahh 🥲

[real dust]

I really wish they had a public roadmap/backlog for the marketplace... Really feels like they make next-to-no progress and for as far as they do like their priorities are in the wrong places... But alas

[slender estuary]

I think they have the launcher outsourced from what I heard

[rapid silo]

@raven ferry what did I miss?

[wooden falcon]

does the wishlist still do nothing?

[slender estuary]

wdym do nothing?

[merry field]

You can keep products in it?

[raven ferry]

@rapid silo nothing, just used your great product/content as an example for something

[real dust]

Source? That seems like a weird thing to do to me

[rapid silo]

Ah ok, thanks 😃

[drowsy jasper]

now that 4.26 is out, we need IK asset that utilizes FBIK for 2-/4-/6- legged characters 🙂

[graceful arrow]

Power IK, you mean?

[slender estuary]

I´d categorize that info 100% into hearsay bcs even for me it was part of an conversation with someone i had from spatialOS where I cant really put together anymore if it was either a miscommunication and or contextually badly percieved information OR if true info. So ... honestly if YOU dont know it then I´d say my knowledge there might just not be right.

[slender estuary]

exactly that xD

[junior smelt]

wishlist still does nothing

wishlist on other platforms at least emails you saying when a product is on sale

[eager kestrel]

At least it allows you to see all of them in the same location. You can also see which are on sale in that view.

[shrewd violet]

hey! not sure where to put this but i have submitted a pack to the unreal marketplace and have got back this comment:

Please remove the mentions of "Fall Guys" in your source paths.

There is no mention of fall guys anywhere and I have never used the name at all so I haven't a clue what they are looking at. Does anyone have any ideas as for what ever reason their support of the past 2 weeks has been dreadful which is a real shame

Thanks for any help 🙂

[thorny compass]

Huh, are you sure? Your texture paths say might be pointing in to such path?

[graceful arrow]

All your assets like textures, static meshes, skeleton meshes etc that you have made on your PC will have the source path of that file in the assets data. This is to help and stop any naughty people doing naughty things.

[thorny compass]

*cough *

[shrewd violet]

no I've checked that. I actually had no reference to fall guys at all in folders or anything

going to rezip and try again to see what happens

the funny thing is it has nothing to do with fall guys its a street pack 😂

yeh tell me about it. The past 2 weeks with them for me has been a nightmare. I haven't been paid for september and no one replies when you ask whats going on with the payment but reply quick when its to do with submitting and asset pack

how do i remove source paths?

please sorry

probably my snail internet 😂

learn something new everyday! thanks alot for your help. Now have to see whats going on

[graceful arrow]

[glass star]

Is the marketplace down or something? I can't seem to download the latest version of a plugin 🤔

[fickle tundra]

Have you updated it?

[glass star]

updated what?

[sturdy hawk]

I got the same problem, I updated my plugin but it's impossible to install it to 4.26... (When I select 4.26 and click install, nothing happen)

[sturdy hawk]

Okay, so apparently, Epic encountered an error while processing my plugin update, so it's not available to 4.26 yet, but the install button is there ^^'

[sturdy hawk]

Well I'm not sure it's possible to modify blueprints from blueprints 😛 ! (my plugin actually modify the way blueprints wires behave)

[next badge]

hey guys idk if this the correct place to ask since its "Marketplace" but is there a way for me to when im launching a project either from uproject or visual studio,it wont close the launcher?

i didnt find any settings to disable it

everytime im launching a project,it always close the laucnher

[delicate dove]

unless something changed... i dont think you can avoid it closing.

landscape auto material might still take that spot iirc

[sturdy hawk]

@fickle basin Ahah, I'm pretty sure I'm not 😛 !

[delicate dove]

but electric nodes might be a good competitor for this year XD

[sturdy hawk]

Well, maybe I'll release some stats at one point

(Didn't know Top Shelf, seems great when you have a lot of custom actors!)

(and it's electrONic nodes, everyone make the mistake, i should have named this differently 😂)

Yes, they are marked as "Editor" Plugins so they are not packaged in the game!

[brittle tinsel]

may I ask you something stupid? what would you like to see in the marketplace?

[sturdy hawk]

A post process effect (with bloom) for UI

[graceful arrow]

The launcher shouldn't close, it will be default just minimise, there is an option to turn that off in the launcher settings.

[next badge]

can u tell me which one is it?

[graceful arrow]

Minimize to system tray

[next badge]

thank you

🙂

[merry field]

Everyone will give a different answer to this.
It might be interesting to create some kind of website where people can suggest things, or upvote others' suggestions

[uncut sedge]

Hello, Just out of curiosity, If I havre a team of (4 as an example) and I purchase a few assets on the marketplace, do I need to buy 4 copies to have the licenses or does one purchase count as the entire team?

[delicate dove]

not sure if it changed for code plugins, but generally you need 1 for your team/company, but if the person purchased it leaves the team, another person will need to purchase it.
if you purchased it as a company and a person leaves, they lose their rights to use it.

[uncut sedge]

Ok, that makes sense. I just wanted to make sure everything would essentially be legal. Thank you

[delicate dove]

quite a few gamedev companies just buy everything in case they ever need it.

[merry field]

*quickly puts up $1000 plugin that doesn't do much, just for companies who want to buy everything

[uncut sedge]

Ha, I an't that rich lol

[vale prawn]

For some reason, this specific item (https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/skateboarding-system) refuses to get on my wishlist. When I click, it says "Saved", but it doesn't appear on my wishlist. Anyone has the same issue and/or a workaround?

[merry field]

Same for me

Now I wonder how many other items I've tried to wishlist have not been wishlisted

[delicate dove]

same

[vale prawn]

Ok thanks for confirming it, I've reported the bug here (https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1828930-wishlist-now-live?p=1839114#post1839114), if anyone knows anywhere else to report it, please tell me.

[trail hollow]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/atmospheric-modular-underground-car-park-hallways

Our newest pack 🙂

[graceful arrow]

Goes into #released not here 🙂

[trail hollow]

my bad thank you

[thorny compass]

Nothing personal, but that "Atmospheric" word reminded me of the Skyrim mods naming conventions: atmospheric, natural, rustic and etc.

[thorny compass]

Yep 🙂

[eager kestrel]

@vale prawn @merry field The wish list problem can be caused by the login/logout issue of the website. Sometimes when you change pages, you are logged out again, then when you try to add to wish list, it says it added it, but it actually fails. Confirm you are logged in on that page, then try adding to wish list again. I've run into this problem countless times when finding my favorites.

Nevermind, I see what you mean by this specific item. I am also unable to add it even confirming I am logged in. My advice is still good for other cases, haha.

[glass star]

Oh lol, it was your plugin I was trying to update :P great plugin btw

[sturdy hawk]

Ahah, well I submited an update a few hours ago, I'll ping you when it get accepted 😛

[glass star]

Sweet! Thanks 😄 much appreciated

[thorny compass]

Hmm... with the time, UE's marketplace starts to remind me more and more to the these cgtrader, turbosquid and etc. mass markets with wildly varying quality and topics 🤔

hehe...

oh... who was talking about managing thousands of pawns the other day? There is new plugin which claims 200k pawns 🙂

[real dust]

Link?

[thorny compass]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/world-director-npc

Well, my bad. It's only 100k. But the text says 200k.

[eager kestrel]

The video actually demonstrates 252,500. 😁

[mighty folio]

Hello, is it true that if you build the Unreal Engine from source you can make the assets versionless? I have a problem with downward incompatibility. Its a longer story, I always tried to use the oldest version to be upward compatible and that worked but I had some problems with that and the Unreal Engine Marketplace Support told me to just use a newer engine version. So it happend what I thought will happen - older Unreal Engine Versions get my asset pack migrated but its not visible / usable in the content browser. So how do I solve this the best way?

[merry field]

Do you really care about really old versions?

For each version back, the number of people still using it goes down

Probably not much point going back farther than, say, 4.20?

[mighty folio]

Jeah I mean I did before. If that would turn out making more problems for me then yes I could go with an earlier version. But audio files should be compatible with every engine / this is what I read on a forums post way back. I just wanted to support everyone / to take that seriously

I at least need the earliest version that had "fix up redirectories" because this is a problem I often had uploading content. You erased a content file or moved it and you got a redirect problem -> content pack denied

[merry field]

I didn't know it ever didn't exist... that must be some really old version

Personally I'd say 4.16 is the earliest I'd bother with - it has most modern features but is really old by now

[mighty folio]

I consider your advice thank you very much

[sturdy hawk]

@glass star It just got accepted 🥳 ! You'll just have to restart the Epic Games launcher and it should be good 😉

[glass star]

Woo! Thanks for letting me know

[ebon leaf]

Since I can't really find a better channel to ask this question. My Electronic Nodes plugin does not want to install into 4.26, I click install, then nothing happens (doesn't start downloading like usual). Is there a way to force install the files into the engine?

[glass star]

Have you restarted the marketplace @ebon leaf ? Make sure to exit out of the task bar one as well

[silent mesa]

so far among my plugins substance is ready with 4.26 hehe

[hasty nexus]

@ebon leaf nothing you can do on your side. That's a bug with the MP and the creator needs to get in touch with epic to fix this. Nothing he can do as well...

[hasty nexus]

well, then he can see

[thorny compass]

I had literally once a person asking a question while the answer was the previous message. One-to-one question and answer.

Some ppl don't really look what's going on around. Which probably is fine 🤷‍♂️

[ebon leaf]

okay, so after coming back to it this is what I did to fix my marketplace plugin not installing: Installed into the engine version earlier. Copied the marketplace plugin folder and pasted it into the new engine. Started the engine with a new project, activated the plugin, restarted project. Told the plugin to install into the new engine (it skipped the installing phase and went straight into the cleaning phase). Start a new project. Activate the plugin. Restart the project. SUCCESS!!

keep in mind this is just the steps I took, not necessarily the necessary steps to fix the problem

[sturdy hawk]

@ebon leaf Well, I'm kinda surprise with your solution, but as long as it works 😅... The 4.26 install bug was supposed to be solved a few hours before you posted your first message...

[thorny compass]

I tried it before and is great, however I discovered I like the default spline style more 😅

[sturdy hawk]

@thorny compass So you use the "default" of Electronic Nodes or the "default" of the engine 😛 ? They are not exactly the same 😉

Default engine:

Default Electronic Nodes:

[thorny compass]

uh oh... *goes to enable the plugin again*

So, I will leave it on and see is it better. So far, I like how the R is red... However, I'm not sure whether this would be worth it to keep it active? Maybe need to check out the docs for other features, otherwise I think most ppl use it just for the Metro/Manhattan styles.

... I remember before many years one of my first sw tasks was to implement kinda diagram editor in totally unfamiliar framework... it was maddening.

[sturdy hawk]

Well, it's fair to admit that the "default" electronic nodes styling doesn't make much of difference 😅...

maybe it's better to keep the number of plugins activated low

[sturdy hawk]

Well I admit that the developpement of EN was kinda maddening too... zero documentations, the only way to test it was to relaunch the whole editor at every single change... a long process, but was worth it !

[thorny compass]

What if you like the idea to provide a bit more control over the control schemes? 🤔
I mean for example, as you color anyway the RGB nodes, same can be done say for material parameters or the red nodes. Color, width... Or maybe just base it on the source color box? Anyway, just throwing ideas 😄

[sturdy hawk]

Hum, I'm not 100% sure to understand what you're saying 🤔...
Wire are colored depending on:

• the type of data in blueprints
• the RGB colors in texture/vector parameter
  would you like to edit manually those colors? or the width of the wires?

[thorny compass]

Colors + width schemes depending on the source component. I'm currently working in the Material editor and it colors only the RGB stuff. Let me see whether I can make an example.

This one is based on the source component, but you might like to adjust them with other colors or a bit thicker lines... Tbh, that's the least which cross my mind wrt to just adjusting the lines.

[sturdy hawk]

Oh I see! Well, I'll dig into that, that may be an interesting feature (but obviously, not an easy one 😅)

[thorny compass]

Ah? Don't bother, its food for thought. Because I saw you can color lines, thought you can check up on more info about what is the source. I'm not familiar how this is done, so can't advise actually.

[graceful arrow]

@frozen bear that goes into #released not here 🙂

[frozen bear]

ok thanks New to this

[drowsy root]

So what awesome marketplace items did everyone find/get during the black friday sale?

[hasty nexus]

@stuck fractal this is not an ad channel. Checkout the topic.

[silent mesa]

this thumbnail generator shows some info about the object

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/agora-static-mesh-thumbnail-render-extension

[ebon leaf]

Sorry

[delicate dove]

@ebon leaf if you where really sorry, you'd have removed the spam.

[stark phoenix]

:no_entry_sign: Vish#3255 was banned.

[delicate dove]

(note: in ban message he can explain how sorry he is for an appeal to be unbanned.)
Note 2: hmm, cant remove his spam when using manny.

[thorny compass]

Uh, Luos, maybe he didn't considered removing it? 😬
Or he was repeatedly ignoring these notifications?

I mean in the first case, just simple warning with instruction could do 🤔

[delicate dove]

I did not want to manually remove it from 7 channels

manny doesnt have that option

discord ban does

[thorny compass]

I see 😅

[delicate dove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever delta]

is it taking too long to update the projects in the marketplace?

[graceful arrow]

Keep in mind 4.26 only dropped on the 3rd. Leaving just 2 days of the working week. I wouldn't expect everything to be updated super fast over a weekend.

[clever delta]

yeah i was thinking that was the case. Usually for me it takes like 3 hours to update in a normal day but now it is been like 2 days so that was why i was asking 😄

[north stirrup]

Your plugin timed out attempting to compile for Mac Xcode 11.3.1 after multiple attempts.
I got this when updating my plugin to 4.26 on the mp

Anyone with the same issue?

[sturdy hawk]

I often have some issue with their validation process (like errors on engine files), but no such thing...
Maybe try to contact them to have more time to compile since I believe that the Voxel Plugin is quite heavy?

[north stirrup]

👍 Thanks! Did just that 🙂

[unreal shard]

Hello,
I did the character rig again today and the rig names are in the photo.
The issue I want to ask is, are these bones correct or missing?
I could not find any information on the internet about this subject, all I want is to do a rig that is compatible with the epic skeleton.
Thanks

[unreal shard]

yes @fickle basin

do you have an idea?

[hollow zephyr]

@unreal shard when you import the fbx, choose use existing skeleton - the mannequin one. Any issues should show up automatically. Then test with some anims

[tepid aspen]

Let's say I have a riding system. Would I be able to use the permanent free animals and animations from the marketplace and use them in my examples?

And also include them if I want to sell my riding sys.

[slender estuary]

no

you can not share any marketplace content you own in the content you sell

but you can reach out to owners of marketplace content and make coops with them 😉

[tepid aspen]

Make sense thanks

[tepid aspen]

What’s the epic marketplace support email?

[merry field]

Should be pinned

[slender estuary]

it is pinned

[tepid aspen]

Ok thanks

[silent mesa]

Amazing update on this one
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/ultra-dynamic-sky/reviews

https://youtu.be/xZ5IoX5EkqA

[slender estuary]

yeah

i cried joyfull tears

one thing i noticed though is that at night theres a certain timeframe of maybe 20 seconds where the clouds are nearly pure black

thats litterally the only thing noticed - the rest is pitch perfect

[next badge]

Anyone Know Whats The RIGLOGIC PLUGIN V6.2.0 In The Installed/Animation of 4.26?

is that a new thing from epci?like they bought it?

sorry for the caps earlier

[merry field]

That sky/weather does look very good indeed

[graceful arrow]

Not sorry enough to edit it though, eh? 😉

[next badge]

haha yeah i'll change it mate

[silent mesa]

There are too many included features of this ultra dynamic sky. Another one to buy :)
My only wish that it could do the volumetric aurora and clouds at the same time but I guess its an engine limitation?

[merry field]

Even without the dynamic part, the settings for just applying different times of day, cloud effects, weather effects, makes it look worthwhile on their own.

[silent mesa]

Yes, it is so user friendly. A lot of presets to start and tweak. I just hope it is compatible with Infinity Weather 🙂

[junior smelt]

wth https://gist.githubusercontent.com/vampy/c250d341ff07feec56f20845800c7c9d/raw/d22f7e68e556e2e48f5490b1be4cdab3309da42b/gistfile1.txt

that has nothing to do with my plugin

and it somehow failed the 4.26 submission

[subtle pine]

Yeah! i'm using ue 4.25 version, can i use this update?

[merry field]

It says it supports 4.8 to 4.26

(Whoa, 4.8 is old)

But no, the release notes imply that some of it only works in 4.26

[subtle pine]

Thank you for your information.

[eager kestrel]

I caved and bought this during the sale. For $15, and it was already advertising this update, I definitely had to drop my own attempt at a day/night cycle.

[silent mesa]

A few months ago, I was impressed by a procedural escalator and travellator in the marketplace that I asked the author to make a procedural elevator BP. Most of the elevator in the marketplace are either not updated or had limitations. A few days ago, he actually emailed me that he had finished making an elevator. hehe
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/procedural-elevator-01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaB38MgJ0DI&feature=youtu.be

[merry field]

A lot of work and detail went into that

[silent mesa]

epic also released these free stuff

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/ue4all-city

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/ue4all-sculpture

[tacit cosmos]

Guys, some assets in ue4 says cant use with 4.26. Can we use if we download?

[quaint cedar]

You can always try to put them into a 4.25 project and updating that to 4.26

If it breaks, you will have to wait on an official update

[delicate dove]

anyone else getting insane amounts of spam on the email they used for their marketplace content?
i occasionally got some, but since a month or so I get 20-40 spam emails a day. and since the only location that mentions this email adress is on the marketplace...

[real dust]

That's highly obnoxious...

[delicate dove]

https://i.gyazo.com/fbfa0f99c5da00c914e5851a5f00ca2d.png

considering to just trash that email address and replace it with a new one. see if it happens again

[real dust]

🙃

[merry field]

Nope, though I rarely look in spam. I guess they only target popular sellers 🙂

[delicate dove]

im not that popular :p

[mellow cloak]

Is there anything for like a handheld camera where you can see what the camera sees, but while it's wielded?

[eager kestrel]

@mellow cloak attach camera to hand and activate it.

You can have a permanent camera already pre-attached and then activate/deactivate as you please.

[mellow cloak]

How do I attach what the camera sees to the screen of the camcorder?

[eager kestrel]

With render target.

[mellow cloak]

Right okay i'll give it a go, thanks!

[sleek imp]

Where do you recommend hosting files for submission? And do you password protect them?

And why doesn't Epic have their own file hosting?

[north stirrup]

I have them on my google drive, not bothering deleting them

hopefully no one finds the link lol

[junior smelt]

great marketplace team, somehow two of my plugins don't want to install on 4.26

I press "Install to Engine" and nothing happens

just epic stuff

[silent mesa]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/unreal-engine-hour-of-code

[timid maple]

https://forms.gle/wbJikNsLyNh7r4G7A I'm doing research regarding music on games from game developers point of view, very short 4 question survey, If you can share it too would mean a lot, thank you!

[tawny torrent]

Could plugins in market place be any risky? Like theres blockout tools plugin for free , do u think its safe

[north stirrup]

What?

In terms of security?

You're totally fine

[tawny torrent]

Yes in terms of security

Since its not an assest but adds options to the engine itsself

Can you tell me why do you think its safe

[worn oyster]

you could totally make a destructive plugin, its prolly gunna get removed at some point tho

but if u want to put a cryptolocker on MP you actually need to make something to have ppl download it 😛

there are more easy ways of getting ur cryptolocker on a lot of PCs

[thorny compass]

Tbh, its valid question.

Ofc, unlikely to be unsafe. More like.. crashing your project the worst thing to happen.

[north stirrup]

I'd say deleting/encrypting all your home folder is technically the worst that can happen

Anything above would require admin privileges, and any exploit would likely get flagged by an AV

encrypting on the other hand is pretty standard, so it wouldn't be deleted

[worn oyster]

hmm i never even tried, im level 3 honorable

[thorny compass]

Never heard of plugin who does encryption, say encrypting the wrong folder. On the other hand, maybe some asset cleaner might decide to clean up some of your /home stuff? 😄

[worn oyster]

im down for testing ur destructive plugin 😛

[north stirrup]

NukeYourProject plugin

[worn oyster]

lol

a plugin that keeps deleting ur compiled shaders

[north stirrup]

Even better

it deletes all your materials

that way no need to wait for shaders anymore

[worn oyster]

nah renames em

imma sell that shader plugin for april fools 😛

ppl pay top $$ to put some terror on their colleagues

[blazing goblet]

So what's the deal with plugin dependencies? I'm looking on using ElgEditorScripting: https://github.com/ElgSoft/ElgEditorScripting which is licensed with MIT. If I was to make my own tool/plugin that depends on this plugin, can I package that plugin in my one or do I need to implement a check for the module and ask the user to install it themselves?

[thorny compass]

You can distribute it. It's one of the permissive ones. You need however to keep it as MIT.

Whether its good idea to include it or not, is different story.

[blazing goblet]

Yeah I'm aware of the licensing terms - my question is more related to how it works on the UE4 Marketplace

[north stirrup]

AFAIK, it's a pain

[blazing goblet]

Like could I even release something on the marketplace (free of course because of MIT) that includes 2 plugins (1 dependency)?

if I couldn't include the dependency and instead have to submit my tool/plugin by itself, would that even pass evaluation as it wouldn't work without the dependency?

[thorny compass]

I personally don't see a problem to bundle it (in terms of rights), but you can get an answer from the official channel - the marketplace support.

[north stirrup]

it'd fail the compilation

bundling it will cause issues if other plugins do the same (name collisions)

[blazing goblet]

that's my worry

ah so the UnrealBuildTool doesn't have any kind of conflict resolution for modules then?

[thorny compass]

If its capsulated, I see no problem. Name collisions might be hidden.

[blazing goblet]

I was hoping if it detected the same plugin bundled in 2 different places it would just load one over the other

[thorny compass]

I don't see how it will be the same plugin. You put the code in your stuff, mask it and you are done. Your plugin is one only. Your next marketplace creator, includes whatever he wants.

[north stirrup]

UCLASS names will collide

[thorny compass]

You need definitely to touch it.

[north stirrup]

@blazing goblet I would really mail the marketplace support

maybe they support it properly now

[blazing goblet]

I definitely remember using a plugin once that actually downloaded external assets into your project (instead of bundling in the plugin release) so I guess there are creative ways around the problem

Yeah I guess I'll email support, just thought I'd check here incase anyone had experience with the matter

I know I could always just release on Github but UE4 Marketplace is simpler for end users 🙂

[north stirrup]

yuuuuuup

will give you roughly 100x more download 😄

[blazing goblet]

I imagined that would be the case, thanks for the confirmation!

[delicate dove]

@silent mesa please read the #old-rules thank you :)

[silent mesa]

sorry for spamming.

[merry field]

You should put in a comment explaining why you're linking to things

[silent mesa]

ow I see yeah I forgot about placing a comment why I posted it. noted. Thank you

[merry field]

I guess it's slightly OT, but I do like to see people talking about random cool things they've found on the Marketplace

[north stirrup]

^ same!

[thin hemlock]

anyone else having issues with the MP ? i add stuff to cart but it remains empty 😐

[delicate dove]

there seem to be a few packages that dont wanna be added to cart/fav's for some reason

[thin hemlock]

ahh okies, i'll keep them on my wishlish until its fixed tnx Luos

[stoic field]

Random cool things found on the marketplace ? UAsset Browser - lets you pick just the asset you want ( with dependancies ) from your other projects or your Vault packages. Its a tremendous time saver.

[pliant forum]

It's to bad it only handles Vault Cache. Imagine if I could browse assets from any Vault packages, that'd be a must have plugin

[cursive venture]

https://twitter.com/royberardo/status/1337459555425341440?s=20 hmm...

Roy Berardo (@royberardo)

foremst https://t.co/nyhIl6svmV

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 11, 2020, 6:09 PM

[merry shuttle]

Dont know if this is the right place to ask this question: if I try to install a plugin to UE 4.26 in the launcher it doesn’t do anything, but if I try to install the same plugin to UE 4.25 it works. Anyone got a solution of have this too? Please @ if you answer or dm

[tawny torrent]

Is this room for sellers advertising their content or buyers asking about content , or both?

[merry shuttle]

No in #released you can share your work

[tawny torrent]

No to what , i dont have work to sell just asking

What this room is for

Actually I’m trying to find a good level artist so thanks for the suggestion

[merry field]

So, this is for discussing the Marketplace

Such as help with packaging, talking about sales, discussing things found on the Marketplace

Promotion/advertisement of things actually released on the Marketplace goes in #released (tbh I wish it had its own channel, but ah well)

And the job boards are for hiring people such as artists

[tawny torrent]

Oh , pretty useful response thank you!

[deep rain]

@merry shuttle I'm experiencing this same issue.

[merry shuttle]

Ok than it’s not my fault

But do you know if this is always when a new version of the engine comes out?

@deep rain

[merry shuttle]

@deep rain If you update the Epic Games Launcher to the latest version it is fixed!

Can confirm

Well no

Only "VaRest" works for me with UE4.26

[ornate crane]

I was only able to get the electronic node to install on mine lol.

also:

A short psa about the epic launcher:
About 1-2 days ago epic pushed a broken patch that causes the launcher to repeatedly open and close when trying to open it. Some kind of infinite loop basically.
Step 1: To kill the process you need to disconnect your computer from the internet. This will force it to stop trying to authenticate and allow you to close the program.
Step 2: Right click on the epic launcher shortcut and go to properties
Step 3: In the target field append the following command at the end of the line outside of the quotations

-nocefaccelpaint

step 4: Delete the launcher's webcache folders located in your appdata directory "AppData/Local/EpicGamesLauncher/Saved/ both of the webcache directories"
step 5: Double click on the epic launcher shortcut and wait about 1min. If it doesn't launch by 1min then open task manager and kill the epic launcher process and try it again, it should launch just fine now.(provided you've reconnected back to the internet by now)

[silk echo]

Can anybody recommend on the marketplace some good medieval assets to start off with for VR

[tame compass]

Medieval prop ?

[thorny compass]

Yep, the Launcher is broken. Can't download some assets nor see them in the Vault.

... okay, its half broken. If you click 10 times fast the "Unavailable" button in fact changes to Install, lol.

[regal rampart]

Any news on a christmas sale?

[graceful arrow]

Nope. Sale dates cannot be announced before they happen.

[ebon leaf]

Hi , i hope i'm in the right channell to ask, me and my team has going to terminate the development of a project and we would like to have informations if were or not the possibility to get in contact with a reference person in Epic to take vision of our project but couldn't find an exhaustive response on epic website, we just found a "fake" form to compile where essentially you get an automated email that acknoledge that you will be contacted in future, some months have passed now but didn't get back anything, since we are quite new to unreal engine (game is builded with a different engine) and as well new to the UE Community, do you know the right path or a contact to send an email or something? much thanks

[merry field]

What do you mean by "take vision"?

[ebon leaf]

i mean take a look at the project and if can fit the requirements of the store , since i assume there is a sort of selection process

[hasty nexus]

if you used this form then that's it https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/about

[ebon leaf]

yes i did, i just got automated response back that they where preparing the lineup for 2020 and they will get us a response/feedback on that. didn't ear back any news. looking into epic game store market i see that most of the games are AAA title of well-known studios wich operate from years, so i don't know if epic is likely indie friendly, our game isn't big and don't have big budget but if there is any possibilities to show it and discuss would be nice, then if they skip it's ok

i just wanted basically a response back if possible.

it's kinda useless if they showcase their low fees compared to steam ecc when they accept only triple AAA titles wich have no budget problem

i accept that there is a selection, it is right since if they would open the doors to everyone epic games will became like steam full of flip assets and scam videogames

[hasty nexus]

there are indie games on EGS. but this year is a total mess, i don't even think they're back to office. so everything is delayed to some degree. maybe try to see if one of the Community managers can give you some direct communication channel or explain you what's happening. And for sure this doesn't go on this channel. Try DMing Victor Lerp or Amanda

[ebon leaf]

thank you for the hint and sorry for posting in the wrong channel, i just feel a little bit lost about where to ask : )

[hasty nexus]

don't worry about it

good luck

[ebon leaf]

much thanks

[hasty nexus]

yeah but now that the server received a mega grant at least it's officially acknowledged by epic and it's somehow half-official. there used to be an EGS channel here but i guess it's gone.

[modern perch]

it's not the first time they've received a grant

[hasty nexus]

oh really?

[delicate dove]

afaik it is?

[hasty nexus]

@ebon leaf i believe this sums it. #unreal-news message

[merry field]

me and my team has going to terminate the development of a project
This line completely threw me, I understood this as "we're cancelling our project", and I was just wondering why Epic would want a cancelled, half-finished project.

But I guess that's probably a mistranslation of "finish"

[thorny compass]

True... terminate (); is bad

[lone mountain]

nah, received twice

Well, one Epic Grant, this MegaGrant, so two grants, different names though.

[delicate dove]

ah, either totes forgot or just cant remember it at all.

nudity is not allowed no

(unless they removend that from the rules recently)

[raven ferry]

@ebon leaf I think you can use character creator 3 trial and export 10 characters

rigged with UE4 skeleton

[merry field]

It doesn't specifically say so, but they do say that they reserve the right to decline submissions that contain (amongst other things) sexual content

1.1.f of the guidelines: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-guidelines#21

[oblique seal]

Releases plugin

Gets reviews

Reviews:

"Good 3/5"

[last mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-cool-great-nice-not-bad-gif-5220607

[rose lagoon]

perfect 5/7

[cobalt bough]

is it supposed to be a christmas sale?

[hasty nexus]

nope

[cobalt bough]

bummer

I'll spend that money on hard drugs then

[hasty nexus]

good choice 🙂

[next badge]

or give it to me

pog

[oblique seal]

bruh

[tight patio]

Can someone suggest me a really good cinematic plugin for UE4? I want to include it in my game.

[north stirrup]

💩

I always make my docs/release notes before submitting the update

[rotund tusk]

what's the right channel for components?

ok

[oblique ledge]

So I'm unsure if what I'm posting belongs in here or in #ue4-general .
But as it pertains to content that seems to be missing, I felt perhaps this would be the better place?

I'm learning from the ground up, using the online tutorial through the Learn tab, and lesson 3 brings up a demo called "Realistic Rendering" which seems to no longer be available in the Unreal Learn tab.

I've done some google foo, and found a link that tracks back to box.com, but I make it a habit to not download from random links on the internet, unless I'm on a machine separate from my home network, and since the machine I typically use for such exploration isn't able to run Unreal Engine, I was hoping maybe I'm just blind and overlooking the actual files in the EGS Learn area?

(Should also note: I presumed this was just for teaching how to navigate and move around the interface, and import / export project data, so pressed on, then discovered that future points in the tutorial includes and uses assets and structures from the demo, so then came here after my google search made me balk a bit.)

[delicate dove]

its rather outdated, would not be surprised they removed it from the learn tab.
and yea, #ue4-general would have been fine

[oblique ledge]

Okay. So while it's outdated, I presume the tutorials that are promoted in the "Online Academy" are also outdated?

[delicate dove]

those should be better maintained as long as you get the correct ue4 version thats used for those guides/tuts

[oblique ledge]

Alright, I'll look for similar aimed tutorials and go back to the beginning.
Thank you Luos for your time and replies. Fingers crossed, with any luck I'll probably be back later asking more interesting and/or relevant questions in other rooms.

[delicate dove]

marketplace related.
Dollar is so stupid low atm i wish we could ask epic to delay payment until dollar hits a certain threshold.

i also have some money on paypal atm, and they use a conversion of 0,795

<_<

numbers add up if you made 5k dollars during sales

then you'd want the dollar to be as high as possible

XD

hide that pain

hide that pain good

[real dust]

Paypal's conversions are absurd

[delicate dove]

yuuuup

ive had times where it was cheaper to just buy bitcoin and transfer that

stupid thing is, paypal automatically converts dollars to euro before sending it to my bank acc, while my bank acc can accept dollar, and has a very low conversion fee

more like, there is not a button to disable that

unless i missed a button XD

[viral crow]

There is when you make a payment

But not sure for receiving 🤔

[delicate dove]

O_o

https://i.gyazo.com/59cb3e573afb044c617cbff64144b6ae.png
instead of the 204-ish euro it should be

no button anywhere to just receive dollars

[viral crow]

Shame

For sure the option to not convert is there when you make payments though

That's at least something

I tend not to let paypal make that conversion

For reasons above 😛

[graceful arrow]

@delicate dove

https://www.paypal.com/uk/smarthelp/article/how-do-i-receive-a-paypal-payment-in-another-currency-faq481

[delicate dove]

@graceful arrow was talking about moving money to my bank acc.

[graceful arrow]

So you have paypal store your payments in USD already?

[delicate dove]

it just stores in the valuta i get, but cant send them in that valuta to my bank acc. only euro

[graceful arrow]

Ah got you, you are wanting to transfer the USD to the bank and let them convert.

[delicate dove]

yup

[graceful arrow]

Can you not open a US account with your bank? Many banks allow for that sort of thing.

Then bypass paypal altogether

[delicate dove]

i can already receive most valutas, but sadly a lot of online stores only use paypal as middleman.
epic pays me directly to bank, but gumroad on other hand

[graceful arrow]

Got ya

[delicate dove]

its fine, was mainly just complaining about dollars being cheap atm :p

[graceful arrow]

Set up a US account, add it to paypal 🤑

[agile shadow]

I just use transferwise and keep them as dollars. Then when the exchange is good I convert them to GBP

Only bad part now is that I kept betting against the pound and I've reached a point where I need to convert a lot of dollars and the exchange now is terrible.

[sleek imp]

Once the marketplace submission is approved is it live or can you manually release it?

[hollow zephyr]

you have to publish it

[next badge]

holy 1.5k

this guy is insane

[thorny compass]

owned ?

[next badge]

i believe it was free at first then he changed the price to 49.99 then he changed the price again

i got it when it was free i believe

[thorny compass]

Looks like a bug or something, smh.

[thorny compass]

.

🤔

[oblique seal]

How the hell

did this get even approved

Oh and ofcourse the reviews

[worn oyster]

but is it a screenshot of a blueprintgraph?

[oblique seal]

@worn oyster Its literally like a snipping tool but inside graphs

[worn oyster]

ahh i recon it had low sales, so than u just sell super premium

[eager kestrel]

Someone else did the same thing back in June: #fab message

[worn oyster]

some ppl just grab the most expensive stuff

fools and their money are easily parted

[candid panther]

3D mouse cursor I laughed at that

[sleek imp]

As a seller can you give your product for free to someone?

[merry field]

I don't think you can do it directly, though you could always send them the files directly outside of the Marketplace

Also, you could ask Epic support to do it for you

[graceful arrow]

That's the way to do it, all you'll need is their email that they use for Unreal.

[stiff maple]

All day today i've been trying to upload new product screenshots (which has worked fine) but i can't for the life of me reposition the images. Every time i move them and then click save. It says the changes have been saved, but the product page isn't updating. Does anyone know what's happening?

[oblique seal]

Could someone explain this me like im 5 ?

According to the marketplace guy, he can't create children blueprints of the 1 class that I provide in my plugin (It inherits from UCheatManager and is not supposed to be included in shipped builds) but obviously you can because that is the whole point of this 1 class.

However when I package the plugin and add it to another different project it works just fine literally 0 issues. It even packages to a shipped build with no compile errors whatsoever, asking for more information just lead me to a silent treatment.

To me this issue makes literally no sense because at every step of the way I do not encounter such an issue at all, so idk how I am supposed to fix this

[ebon leaf]

fail

[oak fiber]

surprised they even wasted the time to give you the silent treatment.

[stiff maple]

does anyone have any ideas for what could be causing my issue above?

Now i get this error message when trying to save changes...

https://status.epicgames.com/ but apparently everything is operational

[clever delta]

@stiff maple my trick was remove all images and upload one by one, i cant remember if u had to upload from first to lattest or viceversa but check that out with 2. The error i got a few times, just wait a bit and maybe it works? It fixed for me after a day or so

[stiff maple]

@clever delta thank you, will give this a go now

[clever delta]

@stiff maple Upload 1 and save, and then other and save and so on

i think i could even reorder the one i added as long i dont add more than one

[stiff maple]

urghhh

i will try the one at a time method. although that it going to take some time with 25 pictures haha. i hope they fix this issue soon

[clever delta]

yeah 😄

[modern perch]

EGS next game went live, so of course everything dev-side collapses as well

[sturdy hawk]

Well the marketplace is pretty slow on my end 🤔

always frighten me a bit when it takes time loading 😬

[sturdy hawk]

Hey guys, do you know how can I offert one of my plugin to someone? Can I just send a mail to the marketplace team for them to offer it to him?

[modern perch]

should be possible

they're probably on holiday now though

[sturdy hawk]

yes, of course, I was just asking for the possibility of it 🙂

[graceful arrow]

Just need the persons email that they use for Unreal, and the MP team can do it.

[sturdy hawk]

Thank you very much 😄!

[next patrol]

Anyone have tips on finding fonts with licences that allow their use in marketplace assets?

Open Font Library seems decent, but unsure to what degree I can trust the fonts posted there, as they don't seem to have too much regulation

[candid rivet]

dafont.com clearly states licenses

[reef isle]

Hello everyone. Can I submit a plugin that has two plugins?

The second plugin doesn't work without the first plugin

[thorny compass]

I dunno, but why bother with two?

[reef isle]

One plugin contains all structures and other data

Other plugins contains functions