hoi4-general

[lilac ginkgo]

Hi

[lament crypt]

Yeah it does.

I read through the code.

[misty fossil]

@craggy trail is evil diarchy some sort of equestrian endsieg?

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for finland?

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[misty fossil]

or new mareland kingdom of midnight

[lilac ginkgo]

1m manpower is nothing bro

[frail bolt]

Trying to get no one crosses the Finnish line?

[lilac ginkgo]

Its Finnish him

I think

[quasi osprey]

nah just enjoying beating up soviets

my game is going to lag really soon

[frail bolt]

The game always lags when a Russian civil war happens

[lilac ginkgo]

No hes capping the sssr

As Finland

It lags cause Russia is huge

[frail bolt]

If a Russian civil war it also lags I mean

[lilac ginkgo]

I guess bro

But for a few seconds

[misty fossil]

wtf is this 😭

[lilac ginkgo]

what mod is this bro

[quasi osprey]

my pc is begging to not do this rn

[lilac ginkgo]

70 procent output

[misty fossil]

equestria at war

seems to be some sort of equestrian endsieg scenario

[lilac ginkgo]

Ive heard that mod is very nice

[misty fossil]

oh my god

[lilac ginkgo]

Never played it tho

Well 70% output is op

Ur gonna cook em all

[misty fossil]

eaw and tfr are the best overhaul mods in hoi4 imo

[lilac ginkgo]

Tfr kinda sucks

[misty fossil]

i enjoy it a lot

[lilac ginkgo]

I mean i gotta spend an hour just to get into the fun stuff

[misty fossil]

but thats afir

[lilac ginkgo]

Until then its just focuses

[misty fossil]

fair*

oh i understand that part

lmao

play loji china

[lilac ginkgo]

I do love the mod but man that sucks

[misty fossil]

its as easy as it gets

[misty fossil]

that would be tno for me lol

[lilac ginkgo]

Is it a mod cause I tried to find how to do it and I didn't find any info

[lilac ginkgo]

New tno

[misty fossil]

no its a path in base tfr

[lilac ginkgo]

I love tno but ive got some mod that brings back old content and fuses it with the new one

Very nice

[misty fossil]

um

[lilac ginkgo]

I tried to find it but I cant

[misty fossil]

you know there's a dedicated wiki for tfr right

info on how to get loji is in there

[lilac ginkgo]

I guess

[misty fossil]

bruh

[lilac ginkgo]

I know Loji is robots taking over china

Or ai

Rather

But I didnt know how to do it

Ig I played tfr alot

[quasi osprey]

never touch finland

[cedar wyvern]

Ahem WHAT

[quasi osprey]

wdym what

[misty fossil]

https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/People's_Republic_of_China/Leftists#Secret_path_-_The_LONG_MARCH

there

[lilac ginkgo]

Ive done most russian paths in tfr and fascist USA but more democratic

[lilac ginkgo]

Thanks

[cedar wyvern]

Oh yeah on the topic of that how do I play estonia

[lilac ginkgo]

Ive also done commie and fascist Germany ig

[quasi osprey]

nordic moscow

[lilac ginkgo]

But I kinda gave up cause the buildup is boring

Ig I'll try loji

[frail bolt]

The opposition Germany focus tree is op, I have USSR in my faction, time to puppet them and annex them, I just have to hope they accept

[lilac ginkgo]

The normal path is also op

Any german paths are op

[frail bolt]

Real, it’s been a while i played opposition but I normally play historical

[lilac ginkgo]

The normal path has a way bigger focustree

[woeful knoll]

The communist focus tree is the most op i nthe game

[misty fossil]

oh my god griffonian endsieg is real

[woeful knoll]

You could probaly do a wc with 0 divisons

[half trellis]

who can help me im noob

[misty fossil]

forget it its the worst economy law ever

[misty fossil]

head to #ask-for-help-here and check pinned comments

hoi4 has a big learning curve

think of it as learning a new skill

[half trellis]

ok

[woeful knoll]

Why does my navy have this icon

[south mountain]

Is this good?

[ember vine]

Who's the one on the right

[misty fossil]

why does the ai pick defensive posture and then pushes with line inf????

[daring geyser]

maybe if you're in like 1937 then it's decent

mid 38 and up nope

there are many things wrong with the template, light tanks, wrong cw, using motorized, improper support companies

acceptable if early game tho, but not cost effective for early game either

[ivory hull]

Because the ai is bad

[misty fossil]

jesus

im hanging my head rn

[ivory hull]

Not really

Use medium tanks

No idea if you have nsb tho

[daring geyser]

you're trying to understand the gameplay of something that is essentially a weighted randomizer

back in the day there was a really common glitch where the ai would break the game and pick two doctrines at the same time

[misty fossil]

well i have no idea how hoi4 ai behaves

[daring geyser]

the ai is mostly random but guided by weights and factors

[south mountain]

I mean I can get 500 divisions

[ivory hull]

Mediums are still better

Get medium spgs if you have nsb

And make them 36w

[winged glacier]

Its not really good

[frigid plank]

@viscid jasper

[thick vector]

[winged glacier]

When you are making a tank design you are aiming for high armor values as you are going to use that to take way less damage from enemies and against ai u usually want a lot of soft attack which self propelled artilery allows you

[thick vector]

[weary lagoon]

funny number!

[winged glacier]

Temp of jews???

What

Why are they 6911.6 degrees

[weary lagoon]

exactly, this is the translation

[winged glacier]

Why are you incinerating jews

[weary lagoon]

meltdown at Tel Aviv

[jagged totem]

Loha

[late valley]

small number too

[jagged totem]

(i'm more active on #latest-updates btw)

[thick vector]

Kok lu di sini juga

[cedar lance]

hello

wassup

[winged glacier]

oh

[jagged totem]

Indo DLC next, bro

[thick vector]

Ya, kirain lu baru join di sini

[tall spruce]

looking for people for a casual game (1-2 people dm me)

[cedar lance]

i wanna see MBTs,heavy and fleet carriers as new SPs
in a future dlc expansion

[daring geyser]

MBTs are already a thing in the form of modern tanks

the thing with MBTs is that they will probably suffer the same issues as modern tanks do in current hoi4

too late game and not worth it

[cedar lance]

alr

but if MBTs were a new SP

then wed be good

[sinful isle]

Does the progress save if i play offline?

[regal rover]

Yes

[sinful isle]

Alr ty

[winged field]

progges yes, but you might need to launch from steam later if you want to update your achievements

[sinful isle]

Alr

[regal rover]

I have 700 hours and only 50 achievements

[sinful isle]

Good thing im not playing for an achievment rn

[regal rover]

Because of multiplayer

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil do you got any freaky super france guide with the funny african colonies release

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-seal-seal-dance-seal-dancing-seal-seals-gif-17832446272461573261

[daring geyser]

its a genuine question

i want a freaky guide for hearts of iron 4

the builds that make you go AWOOGA

[uncut pollen]

concider this gif as stolen

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-seal-seal-dance-seal-dancing-seal-seals-gif-17832446272461573261

[ripe slate]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-deal-seal-the-deal-gif-2446360363984910947

[uncut pollen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-happy-big-smile-cheesing-tH7cnic4kVH5k20UrO

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/saki-tenma-saki-tenma-project-sekai-project-sekai-picmix-gif-25832032

[quasi osprey]

[ripe slate]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-meme-thief-tf2-smile-run-gif-17716955

I thought this was off-topic

[uncut pollen]

[heavy vigil]

this is vic3 general wdym

[clever shuttle]

is ts an good late game defense div?

@heavy vigil

plsss

[heavy vigil]

hi

[clever shuttle]

is it good?

[quasi osprey]

AI did this btw

[heavy vigil]

good at what?

[daring geyser]

it is titled defense

[clever shuttle]

defending

[daring geyser]

just do mechanised btw

cas is whatll do most the damage anyways

[heavy vigil]

no

[clever shuttle]

usa have good hard attack divs i need them

[clever shuttle]

explain please

[daring geyser]

mp?

[heavy vigil]

im playing vic, tac can explain he loves talking to people

[clever shuttle]

singleplayer

[heavy vigil]

hes #1 educator

[daring geyser]

the ai doesnt ever have good hard attack divs

[clever shuttle]

in 1950 and later yes

[daring geyser]

i know which divisions they have, i have modded the ai previously

[clever shuttle]

what

[daring geyser]

the ai always does the same divisions

depending on the country

i know their pool of templates

[clever shuttle]

im fighting the allies soon

[daring geyser]

and i can tell you with certainty they don't have divisions with a lot of hard attack nor hardness

[clever shuttle]

yeah but atleast sum? but do you think my defense divisons can hold the allies?

[daring geyser]

your template is not that good because it's pretty wasteful and cost inneffective

mechanized will hold just fine

[clever shuttle]

yeah maybe

[daring geyser]

do mechanized either 18w if you have cas or 31w with 2 aas if you have red air

since you're going for high defense i suggest adding engineers

[daring geyser]

and the defense stat is low

[clever shuttle]

but hypothetcical lets say i have 5 16 width full mechanized divisions on one tile, then 2 36 width high hard attack divisions from usa attack, what will happen?

[daring geyser]

the ai doesn't even meme blocks of infantry theyll hold just fine as long as your air isn't red and you pay attention

[clever shuttle]

my air will be red tho

its super hard to hold the air

[daring geyser]

go for 30w mechanized with 2 line AA

they have insane defense

[clever shuttle]

is not 16 width better

[clever shuttle]

wait wdym 2 line aa?

[daring geyser]

they are but if you can be bothered to keep cycling all the time

and they waste more equipment than 30

so if you do 16ws with heavy tds (which have lower hp) and mech you will be cycling for a long time

unless your production is ungodly they will get understrengthned eventually

[clever shuttle]

if they would be to cycle that would mean that they are losing tho?

[sudden folio]

I think its time for some empire into the orient

[daring geyser]

yeah 16ws are always losing because they are always running out of org because their stats are bad

the reason why 16ws are good is because you're supposed to have tons of them

so they always keep reinforcing

[clever shuttle]

what about i double the 16 widths?

[sudden folio]

Im lowk alexander the great but german 😭

[daring geyser]

you mean double cw?

[clever shuttle]

how many times the width?

[clever shuttle]

no like i have one tile of 70, then i use 5 16 width but then i can double it and make it 10 instead

[daring geyser]

the thing with 16ws is that they will lose org so you want more than the max cw in one tile so that the chance of reinforcing becomes higher

16ws will barely deal damage to the enemy divisions unless youve got cas too

[clever shuttle]

really?

[daring geyser]

yeah because their stats are bad

[clever shuttle]

im just gonna make 30 w ig

[daring geyser]

but the ai has worse so your current template probably works

[clever shuttle]

but what did you mean about 2 line aa?

[daring geyser]

im just saying 30w mechanized is better for your specific situation

[daring geyser]

anti air brigades

they shred cas

assuming you have max aa tech

[clever shuttle]

should i have like 3 per 70 cw tile or what do u think?

[clever shuttle]

like ts?

[daring geyser]

if you're going to be at war for a while i recommend having as many as you can

mech armies are expensive in general

hol up

[clever shuttle]

v

[clever shuttle]

YE

oh sorry caps

[regal rover]

Not worth it

[clever shuttle]

wdym

im chinese empire i own japan, core all china and have all russia

[heavy vigil]

youd lose

[regal rover]

560 mech for a div with 4 speed

[daring geyser]

whats your inf eqpmnt tech look like?

[clever shuttle]

maxed

[winged field]

might as well use that mechanized for your spg divisions

[daring geyser]

mechs are not offensive divisions

they are defensive

you dont need speed on them

[regal rover]

Who said they are

[daring geyser]

then why do you care about speed oml

[clever shuttle]

but tac i dont understand my units will still lose

[winged field]

why heavies?

[clever shuttle]

idrk i think heavy = more soft attack

[daring geyser]

just hold up im doing what would be my defensive mech div

[heavy vigil]

your tank designs are insanely expensive and you take significant terrain debuffs because of your awful supports

[clever shuttle]

ok

[regal rover]

Medium is better

For singleplayer

You can hold with classic 16 width divs 100%

[clever shuttle]

ig but they will still probably do the work

[regal rover]

Just spam them out

You are China

[winged field]

idk what was the ratio but you will get more worth from medium spgs compared to heavy spg IC-stat wise

[heavy vigil]

they do not

[clever shuttle]

do you think 76 of such division will lose in an push?

[regal rover]

Supply use is 6

I don't think you can put 76 divs and push

You will prob die from attrition

[clever shuttle]

wide front

[regal rover]

You can prob put like 1 of 2 of those divs in one tile

[daring geyser]

this would be my late game mech

you can add flame tanks

also my monitor is broken so the screen is small cuz im rerouting my pc to my phone lol

[clever shuttle]

coool thanks but still what about high hard attack units coming?

[winged field]

why is the soft attack so low?

[regal rover]

It's mecanized

You don't get soft attack from it

[half trellis]

yo guys

[regal rover]

He is stacking defense

[half trellis]

the hoi4 eternal mode

[winged field]

ah right

I didnt use pure mechanized yet

[daring geyser]

the ai doesn't know how to stack modifiers they will def not break you

[clever shuttle]

ahh okay thanks you bro

[daring geyser]

you can see some similar templates in rb tho im not up to date with the meta since the previous dlc

[regal rover]

Still I don't think you shall use full mechanized

Its not ideal

[winged field]

it's just like why? I might as well use them with spgs

[manic locust]

السلام عليكم

[regal rover]

Exactly

[daring geyser]

full mechanized is literally multiplayer meta for dday defense since the dawn of time

[regal rover]

Personally I don't like full mechanized

[manic locust]

ماكو عرب هنا

؟

[daring geyser]

the only reason it's not used for frontline units is because of its insane cost and demand

but the guy is on like 1950

[sudden folio]

I think I might have too many units

[daring geyser]

he has infinite industry

[half trellis]

;

[regal rover]

Ok then he can spam them out

Didn't know it's so late

Who even plays that long

[daring geyser]

yeah duh

[manic locust]

give me mode name

[sudden folio]

Empire into the orient

[regal rover]

How did that happen

[half trellis]

Do you guys know what mode is this

[regal rover]

I remember I was playing Italy and I lost against Ethiopia

The tutorial thing

[sudden folio]

IM SO CLOSE

[regal rover]

When I started playing

[winged field]

Me waiting to annex all my puppets for 100% world conquest 😭

[half trellis]

hoi5 leaked

[winged field]

cuz I forgot about it

[half trellis]

Jk it's korean mode

[sudden folio]

Shut the hell up we get it

[half trellis]

no

[regal rover]

How can you even play that late

Yk how slow the days go

[sudden folio]

IVE ENCIRCLED CRIMEA

HUZZAH

[regal rover]

It will take so long

[winged field]

Actually it goes faster, since I defeated all majors

[regal rover]

After 1943 it's just laggy

For me atleast

Max is 1945 I can play

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil is there a way to improve on this template as of ncns? my feeble mind is still used to goe templates

[winged field]

that's the pro strategy, you conquer everything so fast that you cant even start lagging

xD

its mainly divisions counts and equipment in storage

so once you clear it out the game runs as smooth as in 1939

[regal rover]

Yesterday I played communist germany

I had like 2m guns in 1940

Taken all the europe

[winged field]

I want to do some communist playthrough but I just hate the idea of playing as communist

last one was communist luxembrug but I did that bcs of free manpower

[regal rover]

Communist is strong but my favorite is non alligned

(cuz I'm monarchist irl)

[winged field]

cheers, which one?

[regal rover]

Semi Constitutional

[sudden folio]

The russians must hate supplies im having to build each one myself 😭

[winged field]

hmm, Im trying to think of any

that are still kinda a thing

most of them are constitutional atp

[regal rover]

You mean absolute ones?

Absolute is Saudi Arabia

I think

And Vatican

[winged field]

no like rn most of them are usually constintutinal, Im thinking about the ones that are like semi

[regal rover]

And prob some countries in middle east

[winged field]

hmm

[regal rover]

Morocco i think

Monaco

Liechtenstein?

[sudden folio]

YESSSSS

[winged field]

ah yes

[regal rover]

Tbh absolute one was good before but it's not really good anymore

Semi is probably the best one currently

[misty fossil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3652307927

i found the ultimate hoi4 mod

[winged field]

absolute monarchy is great if you have competent person as the head of that monarchy

[regal rover]

Can't really find someone competent right now

[winged field]

but then if he dies and there is a incompetent person as heir everything goes boom

[regal rover]

Icl balkan focus tree needs rework asap

Idk what is paradox doing

[regal rover]

Exactly

[fathom shard]

no?

[regal rover]

That's why it's not ideal

[regal rover]

Wdym

[winged field]

yugoslavia being stuck basically if you are not going communist

[regal rover]

It's so outdated

[restive sable]

what's the mod?

[fathom shard]

do you have the dlcs

[regal rover]

Yes

[fathom shard]

dude austria, hungary, czechoslovakia, bulgaria are all playable

[sudden folio]

Empire into the orient

Starts in 1699

[regal rover]

I'm from Serbia and Yugoslavia focustree is so bad

[restive sable]

oh i've heard of that mod

[regal rover]

Czechoslovakia not really

[restive sable]

played it a good while ago

[winged field]

it is

[regal rover]

Albania has no focus tree

Greece it's mid

Romania good and Bulgaria good

[winged field]

czechslovakia is just defense simulator pretty much, or you can attack germany but thats it

[regal rover]

And those nations are not even balkan

[fathom shard]

wdym not really you can literally get all of south america + alot of the middle east + form austria hungary + GET china if lucky in mid 1937

[fathom shard]

they expand into balkans

so they participate in balkan wars

[sudden folio]

All the allies are js my puppets 😭

[restive sable]

the balkan trees in general suck

bulgaria is the only good one

[regal rover]

That's what I'm saying

It needs rework

Asap

[pastel urchin]

my goat

[winged field]

the compliance bonus goes brrr 🔥

[pastel urchin]

yo guys

[fathom shard]

what about greece if youu count it as a balkan country

[pastel urchin]

ima try the austrian painter secret

[regal rover]

Bulgaria is strong

[restive sable]

i don't like it

it's very lacking

[regal rover]

Do you even know what is balkan

[fathom shard]

no it's not

[regal rover]

It is bro

[restive sable]

the fact you can only restore byzantines as fascist makes like zero sense to me

[pastel urchin]

greece hitler is fun

[sudden folio]

Thats enough hoi4 for me today

[fathom shard]

some parts of greece

aren't counted as balkan

[restive sable]

agreed

the guy who was prime minister of yugoslavia on game start for some reason is the leader of the fascist party

[regal rover]

It's just very outdated and bad

[fathom shard]

and tbh the balkans are just states meaant to be annexed

[regal rover]

It can be much better

[fathom shard]

yeah there's other priorities tho

france and usa as an example

those are majors and have old focus trees

[regal rover]

Yeah

[restive sable]

a lot of old focus trees have to be reworked

[fathom shard]

and then there's paradox reworking austrlia

[restive sable]

to be fair paradox has been reworking a lot of old trees

[regal rover]

But they still make some dumb things

[fathom shard]

like no one cares about australia except that one navy guy

[restive sable]

germany and japan as an example

their reworked trees are great

[regal rover]

Like why do we need ship remodule

We need fixed focustree

[fathom shard]

playing as germany feels like cheating

[restive sable]

i mean they sorta are the whole "star player" of the game in a sense

when WW2 starts is usually dependent on them

[regal rover]

Germany is like Norse in ck3

[heavy vigil]

yes

[fathom shard]

maybe the only country that could go against germany would be fascist uk

[regal rover]

Soviets can aswell

[heavy vigil]

where logi

[regal rover]

In multiplayer

[fathom shard]

yeah if you nerf germany

[regal rover]

Soviets are strong aswell

[daring geyser]

in my heart

[pulsar saffron]

refining my brazil run, attempting to formulate a strategy to cap the allies. i have managed to conquer portugal by 38.

[daring geyser]

have you ever been to any competitive historical game

any

[regal rover]

No

[heavy vigil]

tac 🥺

[regal rover]

I play unhist

Only

[prisma saddle]

i finished all ethiopian achievment🥹 finnally

[clever shuttle]

does the allies get like crazy when there is an superpower in another faction, like i am qing china super big and then the allies turned into this, historical too

[daring geyser]

then that's why you are clueless about it

[fathom shard]

leave it there bro

[regal rover]

I'm not talking ABT hist games

?

[daring geyser]

sovs dont win in nonhist either if their opponents are decent

[fathom shard]

alt hist sov is even worse

[regal rover]

Im talking about soviets overall

[clever shuttle]

no, i dont have vietnam and france and britains colonies in my country

[daring geyser]

alt hist sovs just lose in mp roo

they lag behind any good germany player

[fathom shard]

i'm ngl no chance you're beatiing the allies

it's 1953

[regal rover]

Ofc when Germany gets milion minors

[daring geyser]

if someone be picking germany and they lose to the soviets either they got everyone against them or they are straight up bad at the game

[clever shuttle]

i will have like 1000 mechs, they will bleed out and have no resoruces

[daring geyser]

solo minmaxxed germany >>>> solo soviets

[stark elbow]

luckily hoi4 reminds us we are playing hearts of iron 4 in the upper section of the map

[daring geyser]

they can get 3x their eco

[fathom shard]

yeah you'd maybe defeat them but in 1980

[clever shuttle]

yes

[clever shuttle]

yes

[winged glacier]

You literally just need a couple planes

And just paradrop

[clever shuttle]

when does the allies form nato? anyoen knows?

[winged glacier]

When they complete focus tree

[daring geyser]

i mean you can beat the ai no matter how late, powerful or large their faction is, it just takes a lot a lot a lot of waiting

[winged glacier]

Theres a focus

[fathom shard]

yes and it's boring asf

[winged glacier]

Just master bait

[pulsar saffron]

if i was ok with beating france and uk in 39 maybe

[clever shuttle]

tac, do u know what year? @daring geyser

[winged glacier]

You have the divisions to hold a bigger front?

[fathom shard]

atp i'd just restart tbf like late late game isn't fun in sp

[pulsar saffron]

but i think i can cap france before they even join allies

trouble is brazil doesnt have either transport or paratrooper techs at game start

[daring geyser]

if the soviets are not on their faction, if they have beaten germany and are at peace the us and maybe the uk im p sure have the decision to form nato

it's not a focus

[winged glacier]

By late 39 germany kills france

[fathom shard]

then get it

[clever shuttle]

but do they always do it`?

[pulsar saffron]

i meant early 39

[winged glacier]

And u can just paradrop into uk

[daring geyser]

not really i rarely see them do it

[winged glacier]

Ah

[pulsar saffron]

i do NOT want germany eating war score

[winged glacier]

Still paradrop

You do need a good range fighters and transport planes

Or get military access from germany

[fathom shard]

just defeat the germans afterwards

yeah just build cheap fighters and transport

[pulsar saffron]

brazil dont have fighters either unless research or license

[fathom shard]

then research it bro

what

[pulsar saffron]

ik

[winged glacier]

You can cheese france with paradrops and if u somehow get military access by uk u can cheese them aswell with invincible units

[winged glacier]

Fighters are easy to get and make them good

[pulsar saffron]

but to produce enough in time

[winged glacier]

You dont need to

The whole point of fighters is to kill theirs

[pulsar saffron]

id need to dedicate some of the few mils to equipment so the paras can actually fight

[winged glacier]

If you want instant caputulation sorry but you cant do that with ur industry

[winged glacier]

Literally 2

On fighters

[winged field]

didnt they fix that already?

[winged glacier]

1 on transport

[winged glacier]

Not to my knowledge but i didnt test

[craggy trail]

Basically, after a visit to New Mareland, the sisters become their evil forms, Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker. Equestria goes into a state of emergency, prompting the Mane 6 to take leadership and make preparations to protect Equestria and the continent against the sisters.

[winged field]

like im thinkin about the order 66

or is this different strategy

[craggy trail]

It’s no endsieg scenario whatsoever

[misty fossil]

ive been spending 5 hours making a new modlist specifically for this path

[winged glacier]

uh idk

im kinda new to hoi4

[craggy trail]

[misty fossil]

from what ive heard its literally katzenreich without the economic exhaustion mechanic

[winged glacier]

i had a dude with 4k hours

explain me stuff and cheeses

[misty fossil]

aka im gonna play it 10 times

[pulsar saffron]

what if i dont wanna cheese excessively

[misty fossil]

66.... plus one

[pulsar saffron]

i took portugal fair and square

[winged glacier]

well you dont want cheeses and u want speed then i guess get tanks and naval superiority

[misty fossil]

is it more challenging than katzenreich as the twin sisters?

[pulsar saffron]

i think i could take france before allies join

possibly

[winged glacier]

and try not to accidentally meme the enemies with the tanks

cuzz honestly that happens way way to much to me

[winged field]

works with early poland and netherlands, should work with france too

not 100% sure tho

[winged glacier]

doesnt really work

[pulsar saffron]

or i could fight with axis, let them cap france, kill vichy for more navy, then invade britain

[winged glacier]

france has a huge army at start of game

[craggy trail]

It’s very challenging, but you aren’t timed like in Katzenreich

[winged field]

they join allies instantly? damm

[pulsar saffron]

and let germans have war score

[misty fossil]

normal katzenreich was easy so im not sure what you mean by it being challenging

[winged field]

it's not that big

[pulsar saffron]

taking portugal and spain beforehand for extra navy

[winged glacier]

no but you cant kill them as brazil

[winged field]

but forts will be pain yes

[winged glacier]

they also have a navy

[winged field]

wont really matter in land combat

if you are playing germany

assuming

[winged glacier]

they are playing brazil

[pulsar saffron]

does germany care if you kill vichy

[winged field]

oh

[pulsar saffron]

cos vichy doesnt join axis

[winged field]

hmm

[winged glacier]

are u in faction with germany?

then no

[winged field]

what could work..

hmm

[winged glacier]

you just build up a strong navy

[pulsar saffron]

i can absorb navies of spain and portugal before ww2

maybe netherlands

[winged glacier]

that works

[winged field]

like he should able to get some torpedo dds early 37

should have naval dominance for split second

[winged glacier]

but if u have taken spain u dont need naval then

[pulsar saffron]

i can already kill port and spain will be easy cos all their divs vanish into thin air after cw

[winged glacier]

you can just straight up rush them from that border

[pulsar saffron]

for britain though

[winged glacier]

for britain im not so sure

[pulsar saffron]

if i kill vichy asw

[winged glacier]

they have about 10k naval superiority by ww2

[craggy trail]

Griffonian forms a faction once you declare war, meaning everyone, including the River Coalition can move their divisions freely

[winged glacier]

you can try with naval bombers and fighters and the navy u steal

just dont put it out before you at least get some kills with ur bombers

[pulsar saffron]

maybe ill invest in paras for britain then

[misty fossil]

ive seen that in observe mode when i tested my modlist for crashes

[pulsar saffron]

and rush army over if i can take a port

[winged glacier]

yeah faster and better option

[misty fossil]

on the other hand you literally core everything in south griffonia and you can choose when to declare on griffonia

[winged glacier]

remember to not paradrop into southern england

cuz aa will melt ur paradrops

[misty fossil]

i dont see how it can be a problem

[craggy trail]

I have an immersion collection for mods I use with EaW. I haven’t exactly maintained it yet but most of the mods are up to date

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2823036336

[misty fossil]

late game katzen is hard because the world council literally has a billion divisions

thats hard

[pulsar saffron]

is it possible to get two special forces doctrine branches

marines and para

[misty fossil]

thanks man

[winged glacier]

yeah

im not too sure when

you get the choice that cost pp

[fallen hearth]

yo can someone lend me a help in #tech-support

[misty fossil]

i remember playing katzenreich with harmony edition once and i was bawling my eyes at equus world council

[winged glacier]

to extend it

[misty fossil]

and that was equus

imagine if it was griffonia

[slim nexus]

Have y'all played kaiserreich as the National France

[misty fossil]

like bro i had to try 5-6 times just to land in stalliongrad without being kicked out and having my entire army wiped

[pulsar saffron]

oh yeah

[craggy trail]

I usually naval Invade around the Northern tip of Nova Griffonian or down in the South East near Tenochtitlan

[misty fossil]

tenochtitlan is jungles

[winged glacier]

how og are you

[misty fossil]

and thats pure hell to invade when the enemy has 1.2k divisions on the frontline

united free states.. i just remembered the name of the country that opposes you

[craggy trail]

It’s jungles, but there’s very few supply hubs or even railways for the enemy to defend effectively

[fallen hearth]

@lethal ether yo gng i found out what is the problem

looks like the mods i downloaded for SOME REASON didnt got deleted

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-korean-war-macarthur-the-battle-at-lake-changjin-gif-16436274735539533878

[fallen hearth]

i downloaded a brand new mod that i never used and it worked just fine

i just need to find out how to remove ts

they are the ones causing problems

[fallen hearth]

i cant gng

[amber matrix]

oh.

[misty fossil]

how?

just delete that playset then

[fallen hearth]

i need to remove them from my mod playlsit not from the playset

[misty fossil]

oh

[fallen hearth]

also doenst work

and i cant open their folders

[misty fossil]

if it has a red warning sign doesnt that mean its already removed??

[misty fossil]

did you click the unsub button for the mod

[fallen hearth]

yeah i dont have them subscribed anymore

let me check for animate bgc

[misty fossil]

what the hell

ok i have no idea then

[warm falcon]

so how does one get the achievement "history repeat itself" where you have to win again the confederated states of america as the US but you always spawn as the confederated states in the civil war

[misty fossil]

ask in tech support?

[quasi osprey]

is 76 factories from 22 ok in 1938?

[fallen hearth]

i did

just waiting

[serene breach]

these stats are mid

[misty fossil]

thats fair. i usually invade through tenochtitlan as well since you can seize the supply hubs in stable side or somthing and tenochtitlan itself with your tanks, then use dragon lands as your FOB to provide cas cover

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/america-gif-12123366897022762737

[serene breach]

exactly

see

total mid

[craggy trail]

This one is a good spot

[misty fossil]

true

i can see why

[misty fossil]

but you have to go through the strait crossing gain naval supremacy there as kaiser

[merry mesa]

I dont know how but somehow I got this man in charge of my country in belgium lmao

honestly goated boosts

[buoyant wedge]

scream if youre a Tannu Tuvan nationalist

[prisma steppe]

is there a way to actually commit omnicide in hoi?

like can states have 0 pop

[buoyant wedge]

i dont think so

unless you use commands

then maybe

[snow rain]

that's not possible as civilian pop keeps growing even in 1 pop states and can't go under 1 pop

[safe wing]

Holy shit the White Russian AI killed the Reds in 6 months

in vanilla no less

[maiden bolt]

theresa mod

civilians casualties

[misty fossil]

henri de man
man with a plan
production cap
yeah he has a plan

[merry mesa]

he truly does have a plan

[safe wing]

@misty fossil

[snow rain]

he's literally called "de Man" as well

[misty fossil]

🔥

insane

why did you ping me tho

[safe wing]

Because I thought you would like seeing this

[misty fossil]

i do but that was random

lol

is ok tho

[winged field]

rip manpower

[misty fossil]

what resolution is that screen

that looks like an ipad

[winged field]

1366

although playin hoi 4 on ipda would be sick

[alpine hare]

OMG IM SO HAPPY

[azure crescent]

Do cavalry buffs apply to calmelry?

[alpine hare]

Finally a mod that automates the agency

I cant believe it took 6 years to develop a mod like this but im so happy

[misty fossil]

what is it

[alpine hare]

Automated Agency Upgrades from FFTF

Gosh i wished this was a thing back in the day but paradox is just too lazy to implement a queue system for agency

[heavy vigil]

never seen him

[safe wing]

@heavy vigil component ai for once

[merry mesa]

He’s one of the communist political advisors I guess you just need a specific amount of communism and him hired as an advisor.

[heavy vigil]

@snow rain did you know khomenei (the first) is in the game

[snow rain]

he is ?

[heavy vigil]

when are they doing their big general grind on ukraine

[safe wing]

Not surprised as pinochete is too

[heavy vigil]

hes the third communist leader, easiest way to test is toolpack, kill leader

every path iirc has 3 leaders

for iran

@robust meteor lets not.

[safe wing]

Pinochet was originally the fascist leader of Chile before toa fixed it as he was a teen in 1936

[merry mesa]

@heavy vigil are you able to time him out?

[safe wing]

You can get him as a general now

[crisp wyvern]

goofy ass flag

[misty fossil]

Is there really no tank or air designer overhaul mod thats compatible with eaw

[safe wing]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JFvIvKSpabY?si=cZqPlRBviBZCzhPo

can this video not be anymore wrong

9/0’s >>> 7/2

[terse skiff]

Cuz it's an old video

That was pre nsb "meta"

[safe wing]

It’s still outdated even when it came out

It came out in 2024

[terse skiff]

2023 vid 💀

[dawn mango]

such a good city name

[sly venture]

niceee

[feral canopy]

I cant do qing as Manchukuo for my life

15 tries

[south mountain]

Yay I won!!!

[misty fossil]

Install BM artillery

better mechanics: artillery

it just fixes arty

[south mountain]

Is this good?

[maiden bolt]

bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran

[craggy trail]

@fair horizon The war has started, but it is very easy to get a foothold in Manehattan's Level 10 harbor so long as you last stand some divisions that rise up.

[sly venture]

we have no supply

[brittle rivet]

🤤

[strong belfry]

we love tukhachevsky

[amber matrix]

December 1941 and i capped the Ussr

And the British

[fathom shard]

tf ru doing bro

you need to encircle their whole army abusing the chokehold of istanbul before pushing

[sly venture]

i did

they dont bring the armyr there

[fathom shard]

then why did you leave instanbul undefended

[fathom shard]

you did it wrong

[lilac ginkgo]

i need help

[sly venture]

how do i do it then

[lilac ginkgo]

why is paradox launcher blurry

when i move my mouse around

everything just goes blurry

and it isnt my pc

[queen mountain]

Hey folks, is this the corrent place to post seekinf for help with the game?

I am having some trouble with supply

[fathom shard]

the nsend a screenshot

[queen mountain]

I am Portugal, I have Portuguese Troops in north Eastern Canada. Despite my ally, Canada having Vancouver and other ports available

I am not sending ANY supply by seas to them

I don't really know why I can't send supply

I have enough convoys, there is a viable sea route, and, even if I unlock all sea zones, I send no supply

When I hove the hubs in Canada, it says "no supply to from capital" - and whilst that is true for Ontario supplies, it doesn't apply at all to supplies that should be flowing from Lisbon

[fathom shard]

i'm ngl i don't know how supply works exaactly for the navy

[sly venture]

this is how I did it but they only bring 1 or 2 units

[fathom shard]

especially without ncns

[fathom shard]

yeah that'ss wrong

did you builld forts

[queen mountain]

I do know how it works generally

[fathom shard]

Also another problem is the amount of troops

you're not beating usa with that

[queen mountain]

but it seems like, because Canada isn't connected to itself, that no supply can flow from me?

[queen mountain]

Nor am I fighting USA XD

[lilac ginkgo]

does anyone here have tech knowledge for the launcher

i need some help

i aint got a clue on how to fix it

[sly venture]

what forts

[fathom shard]

you shouldve built forts on the turkish border

[sly venture]

why?

[fathom shard]

so

1. you can drain their equipment and losses
2. you can faallback to the forts

[pearl spire]

hi

[south mountain]

HOW TO WIN THIS?

[fathom shard]

@sly venture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IykYiQURnjg
watch thiis

[fathom shard]

by not trying to attack through a chokehold

[sly venture]

constantinople is greek

[fathom shard]

show the war page

[fathom shard]

yeah that's alot of losses

and you should've annexed bulgaria before attacking turkiye

[sly venture]

before invasion it was 19k to 200k

[lilac ginkgo]

can someone PLEASE just help me

[fathom shard]

so can someone tell me why the orleanist branch of france has more focuses than the bourbon branch, when irl house of orléans was a branch of the house of bourbon that only ruled from 1830 to 1848

this doesn't make any sense

[old maple]

prolly a dumb question but do any of you know if mechanized can be used as trucks for supply

[blazing river]

so rku can just take my cores from me

[dry kayak]

we all live the same life against that red wall hahahah

[safe wing]

Democratic King Italy path is best path other than the pope prove me wrong

[dry kayak]

my last game: i'm at war with USA using the japs, then USA declared war to the soviets and joined my war... seems all fine... i even did the focus of non aggression pact with the soviets and kept high the relations. results? SOVIETS DECLARED WAR

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/youarecooked-cooked-bro-lilbro-you-are-cooked-lil-bro-you-got-cooked-lil-bro-gif-280531268192940985

[safe wing]

Before you go non aligned justify on Bulgaria

[dry kayak]

i cooked them up to moscow, but with 0 manpower and 1/5 of the territories they manage to spam MiG-9

and i even killed all the dam convoys in ALL the Seas, not even exagerating

[safe wing]

You can easily get, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Albania, Turkey and Greece by 1939

[dry kayak]

AI cheeses too much

[dry kayak]

i always played the fascists one

you get the same

[safe wing]

You can’t have civil wars via the balance of power though

[maiden bolt]

bros running out of coal

[dry kayak]

never had a civil war with italy even when i started playing the game

[safe wing]

USSR exists and I can always betray Germany

[safe wing]

True

[dry kayak]

you just have to spend some p-power points in that bar

[safe wing]

And port guards too

[dry kayak]

yep, or you suddenly find som UK tourists in sicily lol

[safe wing]

I like Victor Emmanuel’s Roman emperor portrait too btw

[dry kayak]

[safe wing]

The fact paradox gave one for his son as well

[craggy trail]

I finally finished up my playthrough. It was a lot of fun. I will say though that ||this is a semi-World Conquest.|| ||The game will end for you after the story ends|| @fair horizon
⚠️ Big ending spoilers Warning ⚠️

[clever shuttle]

@daring geyser im rn training 1000 30w mechs just to cover my max forted coastline cuz the naval invasions are to annoying

[daring geyser]

a thousand

amazing

[vernal beacon]

is there anything im missing this game is so hard

[heavy vigil]

omg is that tacwedie

[vernal beacon]

i have 20 h ingame but i cant conquer no one

[viscid mason]

hello casey

[terse skiff]

try to follow bittersteel's germany guide

[vernal beacon]

okay let me see

because i always need a long preperation and i fail everytime

[safe wing]

I don’t as I’m a imperial Germany path main as Germany

[vernal beacon]

only time i won was when i had nukes

[safe wing]

I use PEG with Imperial Germany and a Prussia infantry army build too

Works almost everytime

[clever shuttle]

the only annoying part is going to be to build supply hubs and train tracks

[heavy vigil]

as who

[heavy vigil]

hii hru

[vernal beacon]

as anyone i tried brazil, independent congo, italy and belgium

argentina too

[viscid mason]

tried to play hoi4 germany but I did terrible so I may try it again but slower. right now I am trying to build a mega prison in Prison Architect

[burnt delta]

brits are not going to like this

[heavy vigil]

baller

[clever shuttle]

damnmnnnnnnnnnnnn

[safe wing]

WHAT

[vernal beacon]

i always had a big difference in division strength i always lack good divisions even with popular templates

[faint fiber]

what?

[safe wing]

I only have 4k + hours

I thought I was high hour count wise

[terse skiff]

because this game is mainly about building an industry and production, not about templates

and you should stick with germany if you're a beginner, playing belgium is too difficult for newbies

[vernal beacon]

i had like 50 civs and some heavy military industry for congo

yet my divisions only had a strength of 25 attack or so

in the year 47 🥀

[knotty vortex]

fighting afghanistan genuinely sucks

the borders are just awful

[terse skiff]

because you don't know the modifiers

really, just follow bittersteel's germany guide and try to recreate it

once you can then you can branch out to your own style and try to learn how the game works

[vernal beacon]

yes im watching it right now thanks

[knotty vortex]

genuinely what is this

[vernal beacon]

👍

[knotty vortex]

jeez it actually hurts me

[heavy vigil]

did he make a good guide

[terse skiff]

it's easy enough for newbies to follow

[knotty vortex]

i got angry and quit

[terse skiff]

ofc we're not teaching them about tech juggling or dual-mio or how to micro troops in their first playthrough

or like, why as germany you should research 1940 small airframes from day 1

[heavy vigil]

but is the guide good

i dont watch him often

[terse skiff]

not for you

you can point out all the things he can further optimize

but it means nothing to newbies who can't even understand why production efficiency growth is useless compared to production efficiency cap

[clever shuttle]

bruh i have 100 colleberation in raj what does that even do?

[knotty vortex]

when can we expect the Thunder at our gates DLC

[terse skiff]

when you occupy it it's at 100 compliance and raj's surrender threshold is raised by 30

[clever shuttle]

dammnnnnnn

[clever shuttle]

if i only do it once and i conquer the nation, can i then release them and they will help me as an new nation?

[late valley]

0 achivement💀

[faint fiber]

lol

[late valley]

do u just play mods

[faint fiber]

pretty much

[late valley]

damn

equestria world?

[lethal ether]

me tooo

[heavy vigil]

no like, does it give generally sound/solid advice

[late valley]

invade nepal

[safe wing]

Wish someone would make an ideal imperial Germany focus order

That could also double for democratic Germany too

[faint fiber]

what? no

[safe wing]

I don’t like Blue Qing

[late valley]

why no

[shell scroll]

how do you even get them i just bought the game

[safe wing]

Blue KMT however I do like

[late valley]

iron man mode

[faint fiber]

idk how to change the color

[shell scroll]

do you think i shouuld master the base game before going to mods

[late valley]

250 hrs minimum before mods

[late valley]

And start off with like

Kaiserreich

and

great war

redux

[safe wing]

Skip that last one

Kaiserriech EAW and KX are peak

[vernal beacon]

im watching this guide but idk how he combined these two into an already existing troop

[late valley]

kaiserriech as uk>

[vernal beacon]

he combined the ostsee flotte and the submarine kiel navy into the hochsee flotte by just clicking on it it seems

[buoyant wedge]

did it

[clever shuttle]

yo @daring geyser i might have f ed it up, i need 25% to declare war and its 0, how can i make it higher?

[safe wing]

Which UK

UOB or Canada

[shell scroll]

yeah im not even stressing about the navy

itll take some time

[vernal beacon]

how is that helping me 😭

[late valley]

exiles

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[daring geyser]

i honestly forgot? unsure if you can generate world tension in any other way than justifying/doing focuses or causing civil wars

[late valley]

Yo why u sending pics of urself

[daring geyser]

if you guarantee anyone stop guaranteeing cuz it will generate world tension

[terse skiff]

Honestly it's more about following the steps he took, but his advice is ok

[late valley]

Play italy for ur first game

[daring geyser]

otherwise your only reliable source of wt is causing civil wars

[terse skiff]

Like he can beat regular difficulty ai easily

[clever shuttle]

damnnnnn

that will be hard i dont think i can do that at 0 too

[daring geyser]

well

[shell scroll]

why not germany

[daring geyser]

give it the good ol rambler try

[late valley]

it really isnt beginner friendly

[daring geyser]

sometimes the ai goes on stupid wars too

if someone declares war on the allies you should get enough wt

[late valley]

well it kinda is but play them ur 2 nd or 3 rd game

play germany 2 times

then uk

after uk

play soviets

then if ur confident enough

dont play a major

play like finland

[late valley]

also if u dont wanna play uk play japan

[daring geyser]

germany is not beginner friendly but it is the major that will teach you how to play the most

and the country that will teach you the most

otherwise usa and sovs are good picks

[late valley]

italy is really beginner friendly

[daring geyser]

i disagree because italy makes even good players handicapped if you play historically

they just have the worst start out of every major

[late valley]

i mean ig

[winged field]

the starting player dont look at templates and would fight with existing templates which are utterly terrible

[daring geyser]

germany/sovs/usa are just sandbox

[maiden bolt]

should the US get involved

[late valley]

I played Italy my first game i got my ass beat by france smh

[daring geyser]

my first game as a major was with germany and i won ww2

[late valley]

usa is so boring

[grave sonnet]

Nah it's good let it chill it will stelle down hopefully

[daring geyser]

hoi4 is so easy after you learn the basics its laughable

after 8 years that is still my biggest complaint about the game

[late valley]

then u play multiplayer

[late valley]

how many hrs do u have in the game

[daring geyser]

yeah and i did play roughly 1000 hours of mp, the issue is that even in organized lobbies mp is horribly unbalanced

[late valley]

esp the soviet player😭

[atomic wolf]

Is this a good template guys

[daring geyser]

1600 with a thousand being mp, but from 2018-2023 i used to play through unofficial means due to being a broke teenager so i probably have waay more

[late valley]

i can see shi

[late valley]

"unofficial means"

LMAOoo

im crine

Broo my laptop went up in flame i cant play anymore

[ripe slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826464137114681404/1373969977769459784/hoi4-heartsofiron.gif

||I have been waiting to use that so long||

[daring geyser]

yeah soviets are pitifully weak when germany player is at least decent, the problem is not even that tho, it's that the mp experience is fundamentally bloated and full of broken ahh stuff, you need 50 rules for it to not be ball cancer and even then if everyone plays well it usually results in the same outcome depending on the current patch and mp mod

[atomic wolf]

is this a good temp

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-i-show-speed-speed-stream-speed-thinking-gif-4948168091398377042

[daring geyser]

what really made me quit hoi4 was after ncns and it made me determine even multiplayer was fully unenjoyable cuz the update legit just took everything bad about mp and made it worse

[terse skiff]

no remove the line artillery

[atomic wolf]

fair

[daring geyser]

sovs in hist mp just got mauled before, now they start already in the coffin

[knotty vortex]

anybody got a decent offensive infantry unit?

[daring geyser]

every hist mp mod is now copemodded to hell because of the new mastery system

[late valley]

Fr

[late valley]

Bro mp is fun when everyone is ur friend or ur in those youtuber videos

[atomic wolf]

can i use motorised inf instesd

[daring geyser]

i agree w the friend one but i appeared in many of those youtuber videos, usually just boring ahh matches

[terse skiff]

no that's a waste of rubber and fuel

[late valley]

can and should are diff things yk

[atomic wolf]

should i

[daring geyser]

its fun when someone messes up and when you are fighting someone way worse than you tho

[terse skiff]

use either foot inf or mech

[late valley]

no

[atomic wolf]

il use mech then

[ripe slate]

the meta nerds are in #ask-for-help-here in case you wanna double check things, but yeh no line arty

[late valley]

I dont have friends who play sadly

Does anyone actually have every dlc?