#🔧│keyboard_modding

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icy sand
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that

little glen
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check if the wires are in correctly and if the stab is clipped in right

icy sand
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OH

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OMG

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TYSM WIZARD

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IT WORKED

glossy pagoda
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Yer a wizard, Wiz4rd

icy sand
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@little glen

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yo

little glen
icy sand
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ive been tryinfor like 4 hrs

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turns out the hooks were all out

little glen
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yeah that can happen if you're unlucky

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speaking of, i need to fix my stabs as well OMEGALUL

obtuse aspen
sacred elm
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Different plate only, without foams

tall elk
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Is there a modding kit for the 80HE thats more accessible to purchase for Australia that isnt from Toronto Man

little glen
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aliexpress

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toronto keyboardman is just reselling aliexpress stuff anyway

tall elk
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Any brand or seller in particilar?

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Oh is he? Lol

sacred elm
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Keyboard fun store

tall elk
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And so should i be getting the full kit like case foam, the different sheers etc

sacred elm
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You can get full kit but those included foam sheets mess with the accuracy of the keyboard so it's a money waste

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I'd recommend getting plate only if you want different sound profile and feel

tall elk
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Which plate - like when looking at Toronto keyboard man website i see a fee selection of plates

Foam+white pom plate
Foam+fr4 plate
Foam+silver carbon plate

And the plates being sold without the foam

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Which one would best achieve a more deeper sound

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Well wont be getting the foam anyway, or using it if i have to get it

obtuse aspen
sacred elm
tall elk
obtuse aspen
tall elk
obtuse aspen
sacred elm
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What switches are you using?

tall elk
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Im happy with the stock plastic case but this whole modding stuff has had me curious too

tall elk
obtuse aspen
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i was lost

tall elk
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Just not on the priority list atm - when ive got money to splurge ill buy it

obtuse aspen
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carbon fibre plate for what ?

dense cedar
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Does anybody know what are these small and thin plastic pads? (in the screws bag)

little glen
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they are shims in the case that your pcb is thinner than usual (it is not)

dense cedar
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So I don't really need it if the stabs are already for 1.6mm pcb?

little glen
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yeah should not be a problem

dense cedar
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good thanks!

trail bane
little glen
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ah

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still doesnt matter

dense cedar
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I think I need open my wooting to see if the stock stabs habe them lol

sacred elm
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They don't

little glen
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the link to the keebox discord on their site is invalid

glossy pagoda
trail bane
little glen
little glen
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not bad for 2 plates and standoffs

robust siren
little glen
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cf and alu

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80he

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both ISO, hence why they need to be custom cut

glossy pagoda
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ANSI > ISO confirmed

little glen
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not making a good case for it when you need to find every opportunity to convince yourself of that

glossy pagoda
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Just spreading the gospel

tulip rapids
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mark is there a way to get another silicone gasket for my 80he ?

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i want to do experiments

little glen
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buy another 80he PEPELA

glossy pagoda
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You could contact support, we do stock replacement part inventory

little glen
tulip rapids
little glen
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i would buy an extra silicone gasket for experiments

tulip rapids
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👀

glossy pagoda
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Doesn't hurt to ask

chilly mural
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One way to find out

glossy pagoda
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It certainly won't be covered under warranty

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But we do price these parts for out-of-warranty support

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Though if I recall correctly, this particular item is in a combined package of internal parts, so you'd be needing to pay for plate+foams+gasket

glossy pagoda
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Eh?

trail bane
glossy pagoda
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I didn't say there wouldn't be threats of great bodily harm

sweet oak
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Threats of crunch

tulip rapids
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ty mark i'll send an email out

cloud crane
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https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/5YdpARRbnGdM
First dual bottom material switch by HMX is releasing 👀 @fluid ravine

robust siren
little glen
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hmmm

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no

robust siren
tulip rapids
little glen
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never

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jk

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when my plates and diamonds and 80he are here ig

tulip rapids
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need a solution for the bilicone basket

little glen
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i still got so much shit to do tho fuck

little glen
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you can do it tho

tulip rapids
little glen
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none yet

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i'll buy cullinans when the launch event starts

swift narwhal
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Anybody know where I can buy mass loaded vinyl?

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My budget is like 65$

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But I can't figure out what I'm supposed to even buy

little glen
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what

sacred elm
swift narwhal
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One sec

little glen
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is this some tiktok mod i havent heard of

swift narwhal
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It's just the stuff they use for cars, studios, and houses

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I'm guessing you don't know tho....

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But it makes for good soundproofing for keyboards

little glen
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honestly if you want a quieter keyboard you should just get silent switches or a softer plate or something

trail bane
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Got some mx blackspepe_listening

tropic urchin
# swift narwhal

You can achieve the same using Kilmat, but I wouldn’t spend that much on dampening foam

eager coyote
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can someone recommend some nice keycaps with golden legends? i saw the gmk ones but they are a bit too basic for me

tropic urchin
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GMK Black and Gold (has some cool novelties) or KKB Kintsugi are the most recent ones with gold legends

swift narwhal
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I just want it to be super quiet

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Right now I'm using lubed lekker tikkens which is prolly as quiet as I'll get

sacred elm
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It's loud because of Owlab switches

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and alu plate iirc

eager coyote
tropic urchin
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It’s a nice set, got their space bar kit to go with my GMK Lazurite build

eager coyote
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does it also have a 1.25 spacebar

tropic urchin
eager coyote
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thank god... i underestimated the struggle of finding sets with the split spacebar support

sacred elm
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10usmile

tulip rapids
trail bane
sacred elm
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Yes wooting 10u is coming

tulip rapids
tropic urchin
trail bane
chilly mural
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this would go nice with a venom

tropic urchin
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I got it for the 7u specifically

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Has flexibility for split too if I decide to abandon my moral convictions

hard fern
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In terms of loudness are Tikkens quieter than previous Lekkers?

sacred elm
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No

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Lekker v2s are way more muted because of open bottom

hard fern
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Nice! exactly what i wanna go for

trail bane
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Such a GOAT

trail bane
tropic urchin
trail bane
trail bane
tropic urchin
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Built for the trash more like

tropic urchin
tropic urchin
trail bane
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regal patio
chilly mural
little glen
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do i get the lube pen from oblo

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or just a 5g tub from deltakeyco

fluid ravine
little glen
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shipping from oblo is like

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way cheaper

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i think i know what i'm going for

runic rampart
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Hey i wanna help pls

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I did wooting update my keyboard is dead can’t do anything you hear when it’s connected to pc when the plug is out and a plug what can I do ?

cloud holly
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A

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how do i remove the plastic case

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off my 80he

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i unscrewed but wont go apart

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nvm

potent holly
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Has anybody tried ceramic keycaps with the wooting?

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Or heard if they work well

little glen
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they work just fine

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like any other keycap really

full tundra
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has anyone had issues with plates on 80he? I got a fr4 plate and i think it’s making my spacebar pingy

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I’ve tried relubing the stabs but nothing is working

little glen
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i think that depends on switches+keycaps+case etc

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you could try spacebar foam

full tundra
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i alr got spacebar foam so idk

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i’m using tikkens on gt-80

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I changed back to the stock plate and the pingyness is gone so idk

humble surge
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Diamond launch is now in less than 31 hours 👀

candid bramble
elder yacht
humble surge
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In general or?

elder yacht
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for the diamond witch

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switch

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because i got my ws flux deep clack from ali express

humble surge
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No, ali too expensive, will buy directly from Wuque

elder yacht
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wuque is cheaper?

humble surge
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Considering the Ali offers are above 200$ for the same amount of switches i can get at launch for around 90$, i would say thats cheaper yes

elder yacht
humble surge
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what?

elder yacht
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pounds is less then dollars

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so surely it should be less in pounds for us

humble surge
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I still don't know what you mean

elder yacht
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like for example 90 dollars is 60 pounds for us on the web for me is still 90 pounds

humble surge
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I understand conversion, i have no clue what you are referring to in this instance

elder yacht
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the ws diamond for you is 90 dollars but for me it is also 90 dollars why isnt it 60 for me

humble surge
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What do you mean? it's the same amount for everyone

elder yacht
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its 90 pounds for me

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should be 60 if yours is 90 dollars right>/

humble surge
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No, it's same amount for everyone and everyone pays in USD on the Wuque site

elder yacht
humble surge
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You are looking at the wrong thing ^^

elder yacht
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its ws diamond am i wrong?

humble surge
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Can you see that there are several types?

elder yacht
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yes

humble surge
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and this only gives 64 of the actual switch

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20 colored

elder yacht
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yes?

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how do i fix

humble surge
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try the other types? :D

elder yacht
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i have

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only 1 or 3 pcs

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?

inner wren
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Hellooo i want to mod another wooting module 60he+ im not sure on what switches to buy for it tho

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And does anyone have any recommendations on a case

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That doesnt cost too kich but still can have that strap of the wooting

robust siren
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but shipping might uh..... be a bit painful

trail bane
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Gn

meager rain
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guys do u think the cullinan are worth it

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(using dcf rn)

tropic urchin
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Wouldn’t recommend for 80HE if you’re running silicone gasket

meager rain
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mhhhh

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good call but im using dcf on 80he with cf plate

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they sound so good

tropic urchin
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They’re great using friction fit and CF plate

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Using ocean heart on venom and love it

meager rain
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mhhhhhhhhhh

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yes

tropic urchin
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You’d need to use poron gasket for 80HE, but if you’re running GT80 case it slides a bit

meager rain
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e.g. dcf on v2 banger

tropic urchin
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If you like 45g springs they’re pretty end game

tropic urchin
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I’d prob get em for your V2

meager rain
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yea

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saving anohter hunnid

tropic urchin
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I’m more partial to ocean heart I think but Cullian is nice on CF

meager rain
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speaking of cf

tropic urchin
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Ocean is nicer on alu/FR4

meager rain
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i need to buy some more plates

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FR nice on v2 icl

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it feels different

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than normal FR

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4

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im thinking of copper plate idek if its worth it spending 40 bucks

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would be a cool deco on the wall tho

tropic urchin
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Cullian being double PC I’m not sure it will be gud

meager rain
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i see the problem yes

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dats why i didnt buy copper

tropic urchin
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Might be different on v2 idk tho

meager rain
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cf my only love

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rn im rocking my 80he

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but on v2

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fr4 sounds so good on dcf

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but im only rocking 80he rn for school work

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writing page after page...ISO is so weird

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i miss my ANSI

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but in 2 years

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i can go on my v2 again

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with ANSI :3 but for now i need my german characters and the f row and the del button with arrow keys etc

inner wren
sacred elm
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Did anybody say it wasn't allowed? You asked for switch recommendations and I shared a recommended switch list, what's your problem?

inner wren
inner wren
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thought u indirectly told me to just look in that channel

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and that theres no need

urban ingot
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Literally look at the link. It gives you a link to recommended switches currated by the community in terms what is popular and what not.

candid bramble
sly palm
robust siren
robust siren
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you can get wootings v2 60he case

inner wren
robust siren
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nope, you can look for a strap attachment that sticks on with double sided tape

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or a cheap clone of the wooting case in metal

tulip rapids
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just my imo tbh

high void
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Any of you know good artisan keycaps

inner wren
inner wren
young viper
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god damn why is the tofu pad so expensive

humble surge
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@young viper Diamonds, you buyin?

young viper
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probably not tbh

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although they're neat. For the price to performance I cant justify it. Sounds too similar to my koi rgbs I have

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I'd buy the poseidons. But it sounds like they're only planning to release them in a single board

vivid laurel
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is there a difference between wooting's daughterboard and third party daughterboards like kbdfans?

inner wren
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Because the price tag says so

urban ingot
urban ingot
wispy wharf
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They are being very wishy washy about it

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I got the rep to put in a word to his team about releasing them separately

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It probably wouldn't be til sometime after the sf60 release

urban ingot
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Knowing WS, it may be cheaper to buy a couple SF60’s as opposed to enough switches to fill your 80HE.

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Pretty sure it’s that way with the Flux60 vs the Heart of the Ocean.

tulip rapids
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bruh there was a gmk mandalorian keycap set SwitchyLaser

humble surge
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It's 6$ per 5 at launch, so 102$ for 85

young viper
young viper
young viper
young viper
fallen urchin
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Hello, I just modded my Wooting 80HE for the first time mainly the insides, using keytok novas, FR4 plate and foam. I currently have a plastic case that I want to replace with a KBDfans GT-80 but its out of stock unfortunately, and while i wait i wanted to ask for a keycap suggestion that would look and feel good in a black/purpleish color, providing the same or better sound than the stock ones i have and keeping/deepening the sound profile.

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oh and maybe some stabilizer suggestion because that spacebar doesn't feel right to me

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tried lubing it but didn't quite satisfy

urban ingot
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It was $138 for the options I chose. That’s all said and done with taxes and shipping as well.

robust siren
robust siren
fallen urchin
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will check out

robust siren
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its just a small list of caps for a darker theme i have

thorn zealot
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@glacial wind sry for ping but just bought the xvx switches

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and ik they effect accuracy but by how much

broken notch
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Huh

thorn zealot
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?

uneven cradle
thorn zealot
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which is fine since im not playin any comp games that need he rn anyway

trail bane
cloud crane
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Keyboard Treehouse

Our unique rubber dome HE switch, back with LED support Following on from the Raeds HE launched in 2025, we have a slightly heavier version with an all-clear housing and translucent white dome to allow LED lights to shine through. Many HE PCBs and keyboards on the market have LED support, so we felt it was fitting to b

meager rain
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never tested them

chilly mural
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we need sno to test this

cloud crane
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It'll probably be kinda similar to the xvx tho

candid bramble
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I should pick them up when I am still in Australia

candid bramble
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Guessing that it feel the same

cloud crane
regal patio
chilly mural
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We will never know unless we have the man himself test it

glacial wind
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Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s literally just the tecsee mold

desert mason
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Are there any rubber keycaps for the wooting 80he? For more grip in long Gaming Sessions?

broken notch
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Also grip is a weird thing on keycaps? Don't you just want little textured keycaps?

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Corsair sells them for wasd

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Just google textured keycaps and you find the above on amazon

desert mason
broken notch
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That's not a thing that happens to me at all

desert mason
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Because the surface is so smooth

broken notch
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Have you considered a little deskfan aimed at your hands if you're sweaty?

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Also higher quality keycaps fade/shine much slower

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When your keys get a shine, it means the top layer is worn down

desert mason
broken notch
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Depending on your budget I'd either get the above I showed

desert mason
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Open budget

broken notch
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Or get GMK keycaps if your budget is very high

sacred elm
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Cleaning keycaps with isopropyl isn't a good idea...

little glen
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cleaning keycaps with isopropol is crazy work

broken notch
crimson sky
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harold how is "sliding around" on keycaps ever an issue

broken notch
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This might be exactly what you want

little glen
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i dont think i have ever slid off my keycaps

crimson sky
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Like
1: how are your hands THAT sweaty
2: are you balancing your entire hands on your fingertips on your keycaps so they are sliding around

sacred elm
little glen
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usually when your hands get sweaty it's your palms

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not the fingertips

crimson sky
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Also wtf are you doing

broken notch
crimson sky
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That's the trick

desert mason
broken notch
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Idk man

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I have given you options

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I don't think there's anything 3lse

desert mason
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yeah thx bro

little glen
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wipe off your keycaps with a cloth and wipe your fingertips between stocks or something

broken notch
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It's a very niche problem. Unfortunately for you

desert mason
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not between stocks because i need to weapon starve and stuff etc,

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and that's the only time where I get extra time to think about my opponents neutral

little glen
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then between matches

broken notch
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It's a fair problem if he encounters it tbh

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I just don't know of any other solutions

little glen
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but wiping your fingers on your shirt when you have a few seconds of downtime should be easy and not take too much away from other stuff

desert mason
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only helps a little

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but thx I am gonna look for more textured keycaps

sly palm
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If you want to clean them, luke warm soapy water is all you need

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And don't use an oven or anything to dry them

desert mason
sacred elm
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Any keycap will get smooth over time

desert mason
sacred elm
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It indeed does

desert mason
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I am confused

little glen
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plastic and alcohol not always the best combination

desert mason
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A ok I research it but I think I already do have pbt keycaps so it shouldn't be a problem. I just don't have that grip that you see in the Photos.

glacial wind
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Some news, TMR blog is getting close to done btw, so hopefully folks can see it in a week or so

sacred elm
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With alcohol you'll make the surface even smoother, so I'm not sure what your goal was

glacial wind
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Been piecing bits of it together this past week. It’s such a tricky topic to write since it’s so technical but has to be simplified and explained in a way people can understand

fallen pecan
sacred elm
fallen pecan
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eweadn upcoming switch, looks like a taishan clone

glacial wind
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it's fun cause the more research and examples i find on tmr differences the more BS every claim becomes

fallen pecan
glacial wind
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interesting numbers is the higher sensitivity of TMR is actually used/needed due to measuring 0.0001 G magnetic fields such as the human heart. In comparison, the 4mm movement of your magnetic switch is 50-1000 G roughly

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then when you calibrate the TMR sensor for this higher magnetic field the higher sensitivity isn't even relevent anymore because you're fitting it within say 1024 steps or whatever you use for 4mm of movement

little glen
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It has been modulized

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Who wants some lekker v2s

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Now i just gotta wait for my plates and diamonds

glacial wind
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I have like 1000 lekker v2s already that I don’t know wtf to do with them

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From changing them out of pro valorant team boards

chilly mural
little glen
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Lekker v2 in a ttc box

sacred elm
sly palm
little glen
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so i can work on one and mod it etc while still using the other

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then i can swap between them to compare directly

sly palm
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I see

little glen
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yo if anyone wants some free lekker v2 and/or iso de dyesub wooting caps, pull up to gamescom this year and i can give them

glacial wind
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The analogy I’m using for that section right now is it’s like bragging that your cars speedometer displays up to 250 kph while you only drive in 40 kph school zones

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Just completely worthless and never used

sly palm
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So it's like people wanting 2/4k polling rate which is also completely useless because polling rate on keyboards doesn't affect performance like mice

lilac inlet
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i saw a keyboard with "128k polling rate"

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big number = better SwitchyDentge

glacial wind
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If we wanted the extra tmr peak sensitivity to be useful in keyboards, we’d need to purposely make keyboard magnets as 1000x weaker basically, but then we’d just be doing that for no real reason

lilac inlet
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you breathing will break that tolerance xd

glacial wind
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that’s the funny thing, it doesn’t even help with 0.0001mm

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You’re still calibrating the sensitivity to be for the same amount of steps and range anyway

glacial wind
# sly palm @jed

Eh kinda bit it’d be more like people asking for 592729473k polling rate when usb is limited to 8k

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And not even using that polling rate but mere saying the hardware could poll at that rate

chilly mural
glacial wind
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Because once you calibrate the sensor for the magnetic field, they end up the same anyway, regardless of sensitivity

glacial wind
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So if you wanted to use polling rate as an example it’d be like if you told everyone your keyboard has a piece of hardware that could do 11 million polling rate. Not even that you are doing it but that you could if you wanted to

sly palm
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I see

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I wonder what those "tech" people will say about that blogsmile

glacial wind
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I assume they’ll like it, mostly because YouTubers don’t spread misinformation on purpose, they’re just lazy and don’t care about researching

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So when they get tmr info wrong it’s mostly just they don’t have readily available information and have to guess based on limited time to look into things

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I assume once they actually have the information they’ll stop spreading the misinformation because then they’ll look a bit silly

sly palm
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Hipyo will still say TMR is better because it leaves room for mx switches dogekek

glacial wind
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I actually do talk about that in the blog as a benefit, but also that the amount of people who request such a feature are not in the majority

sly palm
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I mean it is a fair argument, and for the people that like such feature it's valid to be an option

glacial wind
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I do wonder if he realises how niche the amount of people wanting a 1/3 HE 2/3 mx switch setup would be

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Like even just for sound enthusiasts I don’t know many or any who think “yeah I want 1/3 of my keys to randomly sound empty and muddy” vs just having a separate gaming keyboard

sly palm
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I imagine a mix of HE and MX really weird, especially for typing, and for gaming you can just use a full HE board

glacial wind
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Yeah it’s a weird niche he’s decided is good.

sly palm
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I imagine he will like the woot knob howevernodding

glacial wind
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I think he’ll continue doing whatever he feels like

trail bane
sly palm
glacial wind
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He strikes me as a YouTuber who just wants to make entertaining videos about his opinions and he’s not really caring about accuracy or inclusion of what might be the actual logical breakdown

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They’re very entertaining and well paced narrative videos, but it’s always his narrative and not necessarily what might be the more typical pov

sly palm
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I agree

prime orbit
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32k polling rate when

little glen
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Never

muted yacht
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im thinking of buying a wooting some time today! Does anyone know of any HE switches similar to the silent frozens? I'm really looking for something thats super quiet

muted yacht
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oh perfect, tysm

sly palm
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Silent switches mess with accuracy, so keep that in mind

muted yacht
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probably should have checked that before I asked, my bad

sly palm
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Also get a rather muted plate like PC

lilac inlet
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Are there considerable differences between the 60HE series vs 80HE

lilac inlet
sly palm
ionic breach
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v2 or v1

lilac inlet
# ionic breach v2 or v1

I suppose just all of them as a whole it's just that the 60HEs are around the same price but the 80 is a bit pricier

sly palm
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But the 60hev2 is basically a refresh of the 60hev1 to be on the same level of the 80

ionic breach
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80he is v2 tech, v1 "product quality"

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like switches, plate and imo case

lilac inlet
ionic breach
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id say just get the size u like more

sly palm
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There you go

lilac inlet
ionic breach
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yup

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other than case compatiblity

lilac inlet
# sly palm

Does the plate material cause a drastic sound difference

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I mean yeah I can swap them out anyways

lilac inlet
sly palm
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PC sounds more muted compared to FR4

lilac inlet
lilac inlet
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The same with the mounting style

sly palm
lilac inlet
sly palm
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Just note, you won't achieve real "thock" with HE

sly palm
lilac inlet
lilac inlet
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I currently have a tray mounted kb

sly palm
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@fluid ravine usually is better at explaining sound things, you can ask him when he is around nodding

paper bloom
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for sounds usually depends

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There r factors like plate and switches that is better lubed

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mods that work

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If u wanna achieve a thockier PROFILE get one switch and then do the lube urself + getting a plate thats able to reduce mostly the high frequency part of the sound wise

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If ur asking for traymount, u can also do those gasket mounting system or a O ring mount

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Coz idk what type of thock u want and it is very subjective

paper bloom
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Nvm i alrdy answered a answered thing havo

oak jewel
#

thinking of spray painting an fr4 plate, what could go wrong

sacred elm
untold summit
#

Are you all gonna buy the switches exactly at midnight or I can sleep peacefully till 5 am?

sly palm
#

On WS they are 2 per switch iirc

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Like check keybay, Torontokeyboardman and Ali

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Or any reseller

untold summit
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I am from austria

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And I need them only for arrows anyway

fallen pecan
sly palm
fallen pecan
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this too for $128

sly palm
#

Blood diamonds are a recolor?

fallen pecan
#

looks like it, just not sure of which one

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technically the blood diamond combo is pricier but you do get exclusive switches

sly palm
#

Icic

glacial wind
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Blood diamond was confirmed as cullinan recolor according to Wuque folks

lime yew
#

they might get me with this. Diamond switch+Zoom64 Case Kit=$179

sacred elm
#

That's nice

fallen pecan
#

mucho savings

robust siren
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mmm theres a blue zoom case carstare

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tho its kinda too light

chilly mural
#

I kinda want, but I have legit no money to spend

paper bloom
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But its module

sacred elm
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Doesn't matter, it comes with an FR4 plate

paper bloom
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WTF

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IT DOES?

sacred elm
#

Yes

paper bloom
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Whben i opened my package i didnt find any

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wadafak

sacred elm
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It's preinstalled already

paper bloom
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O thats bangers to know

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I thought it was PC

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LMAO

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Ty for telling me 🙏

sacred elm
humble surge
untold summit
chilly mural
untold summit
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X

chilly mural
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It'll be fine, wuque has been selling the switches in China for a while

untold summit
#

Someone know from where they ship? China? So 2-3 weeks delivery to Austria?

humble surge
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China, 8-10 business days most likely

fallen pecan
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He’s kidding

humble surge
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Yes, but terrible joke tbh

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He knows better

untold summit
humble surge
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Doubt what?

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i often order from China

chilly mural
untold summit
#

8-10 bussiness days
Where you from?

humble surge
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Hungary

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right next to you

untold summit
#

Okay then

lilac inlet
uncut wolf
#

Decided to do something quite unhinged. I managed to meticulously take each of my UFO's apart and individually relubed them. Not gonna lie, they sound wonderful when they're relubed. I just wish it didn't take 5 hours over 2 days. 😭

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I honestly like the sound of them after the relube over the cullinan

chilly mural
uncut wolf
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Nah

sacred elm
uncut wolf
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They all work. No casualties.

sacred elm
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Maybe one day I'll do the same

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Did you open with a screwdriver or with 2 switch pullers

uncut wolf
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Nah I did it a different way

sour dune
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just upgraded switches and changed layout completely!

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btw can anyone tell me if I fucked up with the layout?

uncut wolf
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I pushed the light diffuser out and slipped a razor blade in the seam between the top and bottom housings and pried them open on one side, waited for the latch to click, slipped a pair of tweezers in the open gap to stop it snapping shut, then pried on the opposite side with the razor blade the same way

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It was very tedius but it worked

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Sometimes if I was lucky the switch would open by itself by prying open on only 1 side

sacred elm
uncut wolf
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Generously lubed the guiding rails on the stem, ran a thin film around the inner bore of the top housing and a thin film on the bottom of the magnet

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Snapped them back together

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Stuffed the light diffuser back into the switch from below

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It does the trick

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It's just intensely time consuming

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and your fingers will be sore

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It doesn't matter which way around you stuff the light diffuser into the switch. Either way around works

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you might find the ring of plastic that retains the light diffuser a bit loose when you pull it out. You can just bend the plastic back into shape to tighten it back up

sly palm
#

a way to lube the UFOs? SwitchySideeye
that's sounding good

candid bramble
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God damn it omni type

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GIVE ME YOUR SWITCHES

uncut wolf
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I'll post a quick demo

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surprisingly creamy

sly palm
#

I like mine rather clackynodding
but interesting way to open UFOs

uncut wolf
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That's fair. and it's definitely way easier to make a clack build with HE

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I still have cullinans in the enter, backspace esc and function keys tho for the RGB. Since I'm using polycarbonate caps for those keys

sly palm
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neat

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I use kkb novelties for left shift, caps, tab, esc and enter smile

uncut wolf
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kkb my beloved

sly palm
fluid ravine
sly palm
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oh right, 7 hours apart

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it's 3pm for @robust siren tho, right?

candid bramble
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5 bombaclat am

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For me

robust siren
sly palm
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mixed yours and debtsons

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lol

chilly mural
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3am for me

sly palm
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3am what day?

chilly mural
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Sunday

sly palm
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oh you 6 hours in the future from me

fluid ravine
#

Mounting systems relative to sound.. SwitchyDentge

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caldunc are they still alive

sly palm
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I don't know

chilly mural
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They're prop in "about to sleep" time, unless they're in Asia, so they're in, still sleepy.

fluid ravine
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Do I explain anyways SwitchySus

sly palm
chilly mural
#

get your breakfast first if you wanna

fluid ravine
chilly mural
fluid ravine
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Oh damn I'm like retracking my thoughts on how I would explain Zephyr about mounting system, plate materials, and sound this shi might be a bit much for mebaldge

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I swear I wrote something of such at some point in time SwitchyDerpBlink

sour dune
# uncut wolf

was hesitating with UFOs tbh
only thing I find meh is loosing .5 mm travel length

uncut wolf
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They're divisive. They sound great and have amazing stability. Some find them a bit heavy too but I don't mind that. The biggest problem by far is lubing them

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And their price

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But I do agree the lack of 4mm travel options is disappointing

sour dune
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so not worth getting my hands on a small pack to try

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and as far as I'm aware only officially available on their official website

uncut wolf
#

You can get them in AliExpress but they still aren't cheap

sly palm
chilly mural
fluid ravine
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im writing a new thing

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rn

uncut wolf
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I was wondering what you were writing up

fluid ravine
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you shall see in a few minutes

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i was about to shower a long time ago but im invested into this right now

sour dune
humble surge
#

Less than 8 hours left 👀

sour dune
humble surge
#

Diamonds

sour dune
#

wdym?

lilac inlet
#

the wuque studio diamond cullinans and heart of the ocean switches will go for sale soon

sour dune
#

oh

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nice

icy sand
#

Guys if I wanted to tape mod my keybard could I just place layers of tape over the original one on the back, the one that says get to know your wooting 60hev2 etc

fluid ravine
# lilac inlet What about the mounting style relative to sound

Hey! Seems like you need help understanding how plate material, mounting styles, and foam can be related to sound and how each factor works with one another. I might drop a whole paragraph at most but that's how I tend to explain things, so sorry if it's a bit much in advance. I will take things off with plate material.

Plate material have a great influence in the frequency of the boards sound. Each material can be similar or very different based on their material categories. To simply break it down on the common plate materials we use:
Plastic plates:
PC: Lower end of the frequency chart, tends to give a dead or muted sound profile
PP: Just like the PC plate, it's on the lower end of the frequency chart but due to its material it has a unique pop sound signature compared to PC.
POM: POM is a bit more rigid compared to the two, it still offers a low pitch sound but has a better "pop" signature to it due to its stiffness as a plastic plate
More denser plates
FR4: Simply Neutral since it's the same material as the PCB bcaBoredRoll
Alu: Moderate volume and sound signature, can be bright and also has a unique resonance sound profile (can be hit or miss depending on the board)
CF: Bright sound profile, great for clacky boards, but depending on the mount within the board, it can be more of a slightly brighter FR4 sound signature.
Steel: The loudest and pingiest of them all AyaDeed

I won't really go into plate flexibility since HE boards uses standoffs but from greatest to least (most flexible to least) here's the order: PP>PC>POM>FR4>ALU>CF>Steel

Alright next topic is mounting systems. I'm not going to go through all of the mounting systems and how they work within this keyboard hobby so I'll just go through with what is normally used in HE boards and how they work and differ from others. The most commonly used mounting style that you will see across HE boards is most definitely tray mount. Tray mount is a great use for having the most rigid and stiffest mount in a keyboard. You screw in the PCB directly onto the case through certain points of the PCB and case and boom, you got yourself a tray mount. But tradeoffs with this is how it influences reverb and sound. When screwing in a PCB directly onto the case, it means that as you're typing, vibrations are directly transferring throughout the case because of these tray mount points and PCB to case contact. It produces harsh sounds within the board and case such as hollowness, ping, reverb, and all sorts of things. So what's a different mount that doesn't do all that?
Isolation mount such as gasket mount, gummy o'ring, tadpole mount, friction fit, etc. Mounts like these do a great job at isolating the sound of the PCB, plate, switches, and keycaps away from the case unlike tray mount, bottom out, and top mount. Another pro to these isolation mount systems is that they give the user a softer typing experience since they are not directly mounted into the case. (You can search up images on how these mounting system works)

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And last topic is how foam works. I already have a full explanation here so I don't have to retype the whole thing. #🔧│keyboard_modding message Thock vs Clack & How foam works
TLDR: In a keyboard, foam used as a "sound dampener" can target certain frequencies of sound to produce a different sound wave length of choice, depending on the density and volume of foam that is being used in a keyboard. PCB Sheets like IXPE or PE Foam sheets are used as a sound modifier, which is used to filter or change the sound profile of the board (especially when bottoming out a switch).
When the mechanical waves of sound travel through thinner foam, depending on how much is put in the board, it tends to reduce higher frequency sounds, emphasizing the lows and mids, which we call thock. But if thicker foam is packed into the keyboard, there is less space for the waves to travel through, making the foam more like a wall or surface for sound and frequency waves to bounce off, which causes clack.

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ok i lied
a paragraph was not at most
first misinformation

thorn zealot
#

shame

robust siren
#

GPTson carstare

fluid ravine
#

Asian Intelligence

robust siren
fluid ravine
robust siren
fluid ravine
thorn zealot
robust siren
#

max verstappen doing anything but winning in F1 smile

fluid ravine
fluid ravine
little glen
ornate linden
#

hey guys, im coming from an silent hhkb with topre switches. always loved the feel and sound, but wanted the HE switches for valorant.
so i ended up getting the 60he v2 with the geon raw HE switches. and they are waaay too loud for me.
i noticed that there are some silenced switches on the faq switch database. the XVX EC/HE switches look really nice, especially since i would be going back to my beloved EC domes.
the issue im wondering about is the warning about silent switches making the switches less accurate? and since i play valorant, im wondering exactly what the tradeoffs are here?

uneven cradle
#

Orders of magnitude less accurate and generally not recommended if you're wanting the most competitive switch

sterile fossil
#

Hey, I need help with my Wooting 60HE+. I get a “Bootloader error” and Wootility Web does not detect the keyboard on multiple PCs. The keyboard still works for typing and in BIOS, but recovery/bootloader mode does not work at all even after trying different USB ports, cables, browsers, and registry fix. Has anyone had this and fixed it?

ornate linden
sterile fossil
uneven cradle
#

Not really anyway to test for that aside from using them yourself though or believing what others who have used them say

inner wren
#

Anyone got some nice pair of keycaps for the price range of max 50 doubleshot pbt or just pbt is fine as well

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White or Something i could pair well white a white Acrylic case

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Light colors would work well too

sly palm
#

For this price range, the wooting ones are pretty nicenodding

inner wren
inner wren
#

In terms of designs

#

@sacred elm sick designs icl

trail bane
#

Gn

fluid ravine
# lilac inlet Let's say I want a "thockier" sound profile, which one would I want

Was busy earlier, but coming back to this message, any neutral to lower frequency plates work just fine. The influence of sound acoustic foams can drastically change how your board sound. Plates in their own ways have their own characteristics with sound in how the play in a board but they can still fit into the description of clack<->thock depending on your build. If you want to thock in a build, then just use the right foams and the right amount. Focus on using foams that can lower high frequencies and emphasize on the lows and mids. Try to take advantage on using a mount that isolates the module as well as use something like poron plate foam rather than silicone. For case foam, try using foam that is more spacious and dense rather than something like a solid block of silicone or just straight up shoving too much foam (it will do the opposite effect of dampening)

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If you do read my Thock vs Clack & How foam works explaination thing, i explained how it works.

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If you want to go further than just using foam alone, you can try using compatible pcb sheets (like the ones Wooting uses in their v2) or like tape mod as an sound acoustic modifier to change how the board sounds even more.
Simple way to explain it as well is foam being a gain meter kind of thing and the sound acoustic modifiers is the EQ tool.

fluid ravine
cloud crane
#

W thockson yap smile

inner wren
#

Anyone knows how rgb works on these ? Is the 60he+ module enough to get some underglow?

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Ill be buying transparent switches as well so the effect is better

inner wren
#

@tulip rapids if you have one is the rgb good on it and what do i do for good underglow

tulip rapids
#

i will mod this board soon

#

||again CatNyehehe ||

inner wren
#

Looks sick

inner wren
inner wren
tulip rapids
#

right now im on 80he

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with diamonds

tulip rapids
inner wren
#

Never heard of those but heard that getting clear ones should help a lot already

inner wren
#

I bought a used module

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For 80 euros

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Used keyboard

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And ill built a new one out of that

humble surge
#

Diamond launch in 27 👀

humble surge
#

Wooo, Diamonds ordered 🙂

untold summit
#

Bruh, 35 dollar shipping

inner wren
#

Not clear

#

But

broken notch
untold summit
humble surge
#

I didn't

signal dagger
#

are the blood diamonds a recolor of the Cullinan or the Heart of Ocean?

humble surge
#

Cullinan

lilac inlet
#

And proper paragraphing

fluid ravine
lilac inlet
#

Would it be advantageous to go foamless if I want to achieve a thockier sound?

fluid ravine
lilac inlet
#

Or just really really thin foam

fluid ravine
#

foam density also counts in the equation too

lilac inlet
#

Well I guess if I want to go thinness then PE mod would be the way to go...?

spiral crater
#

hey yall, i have a 80he build w/ ur ice ultra r1, just wondering if there is any switch out there that is more "deep"/bassy ? saw some r2 and the keytok as well as the tikkens

sacred elm
fluid ravine
#

i dont recommend switch pads as well

spiral crater
sacred elm
#

There will always be some sort of clack

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Nova has very muted clack though, because of PA12 bottom and split stem

lilac inlet
fluid ravine
lilac inlet
#

I'll probably tape mod it firsthand

spiral crater
spiral crater
#

but in the 80he since im forced to use foam, i may as well jsut go for a foamy build 🙃

lyric nimbus
#

my 2he is foamless

spiral crater
#

wait does the 2he use the same mounting styule as the 80he

lyric nimbus
#

no it uses tray mount

spiral crater
#

ahhhhhh nvm

#

if i could onyl just figure out a way to go foamless in this, i definitely would run clacky builds

lyric nimbus
#

i modified it to be bottom mounted thouhg

spiral crater
#

3d printing?

lyric nimbus
#

cnc milled a case

spiral crater
#

ahhhhhh

#

thats cool, i might look into that, and then get a custom plate so i can top mount it

wispy wharf
#

80he brass case pls

spiral crater
#

imagine the cost in this economy, heard alu prices are going up by a fair bit

wispy wharf
#

Imagine bronze case

spiral crater
#

copper case would be sick tho

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and just letting it patina

wispy wharf
#

Keyboard of Liberty

spiral crater
#

with a matching artisan

wispy wharf
#

Cast bronze case could work

#

Would need different molds though

wispy wharf
#

I have my tactype sample kit in and these things are thock monsters

#

Unfortunately there is a notable qc issue

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Snaggletooth keycap type shit

spiral crater
#

wait holy shit the wooting 80he can be built foamless, i somehow got the keysnaps to work in it, i need yalls best clacky switch recs

regal patio
little glen
#

If you could post some pictures that would be great, it might make me order some keysnaps if it works well

spiral crater
# little glen Oh? Did you place the keysnaps where the silicone blocks would be?

nope, i just took off the tape, put em in the regular positions (3 bottom: one on win key, other on rctrl key and one on down key), then two 2 fkm keysnaps at the top), but i do have the gt80 case, not the regular plastic wooting case, i think i threw that one out. and then for the ones on the top of the pcb, i had to put a strip of foam underneath so the keysnaps could be "taller" otherwise it would interfere with the top case

little glen
spiral crater
little glen
#

I really wanna give that a try now

spiral crater
#

the ones on bottom are the blue ones, i think they are super light i think 40a silicone

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btw it does take some pushing/pulling to make sure it doesnt interfere with the top case. but overall it does work fine imo

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and keysnaps are pretty cheap where i am, only cost me like ~30 aud for the 40a, 70a and fkm keysnaps

little glen
#

Yeah they are like 6 euro per pack of 6 here

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So 18 euro total for one pack of each hardness

spiral crater
#

i honestly do think you might just get away with only getting one hardness, i went with the 40a at the bottom since i wanted it to compress slightly in case of clearance issues so it wont be too tall, and fkm at the back cuz i wanted it rigid to be as "tall" as possible, but i could be completely wrong and it doesnt change anything

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but then again, i don't have the original wooting case so i cant test it out there sorry

regal patio
little glen
#

I also have a gt80, no worries

spiral crater
spiral crater
regal patio
#

I have 2 layers of tape, a PET film and 2 poron foams and another PET film

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Foammaxing

little glen
little glen
#

That is sick af

spiral crater
spiral crater
# little glen That is sick af

and then soundtest, just to note its thick ass pbt keycaps and ur ice ultra and PC plate so not as clacky as i want but gonna get some gmk and a nice clacky switch, just need to find one

little glen
#

Ttc horse

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🐴

spiral crater
#

also when you click in the top case, grab the module by the f-row and push/pull sideways and upwards until the top keys dont interfere with the case

little glen
#

Clip clop

spiral crater
#

also i found you NEED the strip of foam otherwise f-row will interfere with the case no matter how much you push and pull

little glen
spiral crater
#

ooo lemme give the ttc horses a listen

little glen
#

I dont think i have foam strips with glue on em

spiral crater
#

mines not glued

little glen
#

So i‘ll probably just have to cut the foam that came with the 80he

spiral crater
#

u just position it while laying the moduel flat and make sure the jst cable doesnt move it too much

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u can buy some cheap poron foam off of ali, thats where i got mine

little glen
#

Eh i dont use foam anyway

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So i might as well cut the things i have

spiral crater
#

true true, if you never gonna use em again might as well

little glen
#

Also, if you want, i have TTC horse and fr4 plate on my 80he

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So if you want to hear it with the keysnaps on i will probably send a soundtest when i get to doing that mod

spiral crater
#

oooo yes please!, i was thinking of MAYBE the ti he, cuz i heard they were all the rage back then, but very expensive ngl

little glen
#

(I also have a current sound test where i cut out the middle of the silicone pad)

little glen
#

But they are really nice

spiral crater
#

ooooo yeah theyy do sound very nice hmmmmmm

broken notch
#

I want horsies so bad

little glen
#

Could also check out ws diamond

#

Those are new up and coming switch that also sounds good

spiral crater
#

i also did hear the duhuk herz are similar to the ti he

little glen
regal patio
little glen
#

Yeah they are

spiral crater
#

ehhh theres only a 10$ price difference on aliexpress

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might js go with the ti he cuz i dont want pink rgb tinting

little glen
#

If i buy the diamond set it‘d be 20

broken notch
#

I have 10 of cullinan and 10 of HotO

#

I'm on airplane internet atm, so dm if I don't answer Kek

sacred elm
# spiral crater ehhh theres only a 10$ price difference on aliexpress

Also check Kailh Ice Cream magnetic switches on Ali. They're cheap, stable and sound good https://youtube.com/shorts/IGghORQBY60

little glen
#

I‘d trade blood diamonds 1:1 for cullinans

spiral crater
broken notch
little glen
#

If you‘re going to gamescom we could trade em then or we spend the extra money to ship em back and forth

broken notch
#

I'm not sure yet!

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I'm going to twitchcon allegedly

little glen
#

I dont even know where that takes place OMEGALUL

broken notch
#

Hehe

#

It's about 16 euros for a package to Germany

#

Is that even worth it for 10 switches? :(

little glen
#

Probably not tbh

broken notch
#

Dang

little glen
regal patio
#

Make the word jade bannable

little glen
#

I‘ve BEEN saying this

#

i'm sorry @broken notch i think i may not get the blood diamonds cause it's like a 40 euro price difference 😭

broken notch
#

Yeah

#

Totally fair :D

sacred elm
#

Buy all the Jades from Wooting store instead

trail bane
little glen
#

ordered my diamonds (and more stuff)

#

got so many orders coming in the next few weeks insane

lilac inlet
#

Does anyone by ANY CHANCE have a free shipping discount code clueless

broken notch
#

No

#

They don't exist

glossy pagoda
#

DISCORD DISCOUNT is the only code available

last tundra
#

What is it that HE switches always sound so much worse than mechanical ones? Would it not be possible to simply take a really nice mechanical switch and then… stick a magnet on the bottom of it? Is there an intrinsic reason why they always seem to sound and feel so much worse or…

last tundra
little glen
sly palm
mint oracle
broken notch
#

Shakycam

last tundra
cloud crane
#

Aiglatson is considering a Vella R2 👀

rotund perch
#

what difference is there between a flex cut plate (i think thats the term) and non-flex cut? is there any sound difference?

broken notch
#

<@&1098943457654997093>

inner wren
#

Does anyone know where i can find ttc noble horse switches the cheapest

#

Ive been looking to buy 70 but cant find a offer

#

With 70 only

#

Only 90

little glen
#

This has 35 pack

thorn zealot
#

is that the sound of a lego character walkin

fallen pecan
tall hollow
#

ban this guy!!!!!

sly palm
#

<@&1098943457654997093>

#

hammer them

tropic urchin
#

Tuff

sly palm
chilly mural
tall hollow
sly palm
tropic urchin
sly palm
tropic urchin
#

Imagine what happens when you don’t buy the cheapest config havo

#

WIIILLLDDD

tall hollow
# sly palm

when are they gonna release the knooooooooob

chilly mural
#

<@&1098943457654997093>

little glen
chilly mural
#

damn, it's kai cenat this time

trail bane
#

Monee

chilly mural
#

tank

little glen
#

Tldw of the hipyo video

#

Zoom64 case?

#

Or what did he say/talk about Arksus

tropic urchin
little glen
#

Holyyy

tropic urchin
#

What not having PCR and lekkers does to a mf

little glen
#

Diamonds = good???

tropic urchin
#

They’re the nicest 45g option I’ve tried so far

#

Hope you stub your toe

chilly mural
#

<@&1098943457654997093>

#

tank

sly palm
#

<@&1098943457654997093>

#

today is a good day to get hacked huh

ionic ingot
sly palm
#

4 @mods in less then a hour dogekek

#

you really have to feel like SwitchyPing

rotund perch
sacred elm
#

At least he made it sound better, unlike squashy boy

waxen pecan
#

does anyone have recs for clacky switches and stabs for the v2

regal patio
uncut wolf
#

For stabs get the Knight V4 or YIKB. For switches read the FAQ

regal patio
# tidal frigate

He said that the the poseidons, cullinans ans heart of the ocean all sound the same

waxen pecan
sly palm
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Im asking as I found a listing for 70 on aliexpress for relatively cheap

uncut wolf
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and on Ebay, "Deep Clacks" and Keytok switches from the same person for 40 dollars

sacred elm
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I noticed 4mm is not very common in HE so im wondering if its a tikken upgrade

uncut wolf
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Im based in CA so divnikey ships cheaply to me

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Wobbly stabs are a pet peeve so it's good to have them to hand

uncut wolf
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I see, thank you guys!

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Im gonna go ahead and order the YIKKB stabs 2x and the Deep Clack switches

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along with the stem spacers

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That's a solid combo

sacred elm
# waxen pecan Im gonna go ahead and order the YIKKB stabs 2x and the Deep Clack switches

Get 1 full size set instead, it has enough 2u wires for the split 60HE v2 https://milktooth.com/products/typeplus-stabilizers-fullsize

Milktooth

The Typeplus x YiKB stabilizer set offers exceptional performance with its patented secured wire mechanism and premium POK construction, ensuring smooth, rattle-free keystrokes every time. Engineered for reliability and consistency, it eliminates common issues like wire pop-out while delivering linear force travel for a premium typing experience...