#🔧│keyboard_modding
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check if the wires are in correctly and if the stab is clipped in right
Yer a wizard, Wiz4rd

https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/wooting-v2-modding-kit should i buy this ?
Different plate only, without foams
Is there a modding kit for the 80HE thats more accessible to purchase for Australia that isnt from Toronto Man
Keyboard fun store
And so should i be getting the full kit like case foam, the different sheers etc
You can get full kit but those included foam sheets mess with the accuracy of the keyboard so it's a money waste
I'd recommend getting plate only if you want different sound profile and feel
Which plate - like when looking at Toronto keyboard man website i see a fee selection of plates
Foam+white pom plate
Foam+fr4 plate
Foam+silver carbon plate
And the plates being sold without the foam
Which one would best achieve a more deeper sound
Well wont be getting the foam anyway, or using it if i have to get it
the plate is just for the sound ?
If you want deep sound, keep the stock plate. All of those plates will make the sound louder/clackier
Oh man. Thats a bit of a money saver then hahaha
true xD
Tbh i dont have much knowledge on what they do
me too
What switches are you using?
Im happy with the stock plastic case but this whole modding stuff has had me curious too
the same
Stock switches, but buying the lekker mediums which is what u recommended me haha
i was lost
Just not on the priority list atm - when ive got money to splurge ill buy it
Does anybody know what are these small and thin plastic pads? (in the screws bag)
they are shims in the case that your pcb is thinner than usual (it is not)
So I don't really need it if the stabs are already for 1.6mm pcb?
yeah should not be a problem
good thanks!
No, these are different. These ones prevent the screw head from touching the PCB, just in case, so it does not short when it touches the bottom of the case iirc
makes sense
I think I need open my wooting to see if the stock stabs habe them lol
They don't
This is why we use
https://wooting.io/discord
I can send you invite

not bad for 2 plates and standoffs
whatd you get 
ANSI > ISO confirmed
not making a good case for it when you need to find every opportunity to convince yourself of that
Just spreading the gospel
mark is there a way to get another silicone gasket for my 80he ?
i want to do experiments
buy another 80he 
You could contact support, we do stock replacement part inventory

even if i cut the gasket myself i can get a replacement ?
i would buy an extra silicone gasket for experiments
👀
Doesn't hurt to ask
real
what if its a trap
"go ahead and ask"
wooting pov
One way to find out
It certainly won't be covered under warranty
But we do price these parts for out-of-warranty support
Though if I recall correctly, this particular item is in a combined package of internal parts, so you'd be needing to pay for plate+foams+gasket
All that time
Eh?
I could have just asked, I thought they would tear me apart
I didn't say there wouldn't be threats of great bodily harm
Threats of crunch
ty mark i'll send an email out
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/5YdpARRbnGdM
First dual bottom material switch by HMX is releasing 👀 @fluid ravine
i need a 10 page report on alu plate 
need a solution for the bilicone basket
i still got so much shit to do tho 
yeah i'm not gonna do that stuff for a while
you can do it tho
which diamonds did you get?
Anybody know where I can buy mass loaded vinyl?
My budget is like 65$
But I can't figure out what I'm supposed to even buy
what

One sec
is this some tiktok mod i havent heard of
It's just the stuff they use for cars, studios, and houses
I'm guessing you don't know tho....
But it makes for good soundproofing for keyboards
honestly if you want a quieter keyboard you should just get silent switches or a softer plate or something
Got some mx blacks
You can achieve the same using Kilmat, but I wouldn’t spend that much on dampening foam
Woaaa waaaat
can someone recommend some nice keycaps with golden legends? i saw the gmk ones but they are a bit too basic for me
GMK Black and Gold (has some cool novelties) or KKB Kintsugi are the most recent ones with gold legends
Well here's the thing I have a hex 80 board and a wooting 60he I was able to make the wooting pretty perfect but my hex 80 is just default super loud
I just want it to be super quiet
Right now I'm using lubed lekker tikkens which is prolly as quiet as I'll get
KKB Kintsugi look very nice thank you
It’s a nice set, got their space bar kit to go with my GMK Lazurite build
does it also have a 1.25 spacebar
Ye
thank god... i underestimated the struggle of finding sets with the split spacebar support
10u
Is this
a leak from mod chat?
Yes wooting 10u is coming
where 20u at
Jumpscare
Dayum, thank you
I got it for the 7u specifically
Has flexibility for split too if I decide to abandon my moral convictions
In terms of loudness are Tikkens quieter than previous Lekkers?
Nice! exactly what i wanna go for
Such a GOAT
I forgot that I already had 45g springs in my cart, while I actually wanted 50g springs
Thank you Daniel )))
https://x.com/gateronofficial/status/2052750869897392346?s=46
Anything but new switches 
Blyat/Bruh
Built for the trash more like
Bros becoming one of those venomous frogs 
)
Please Gateron spend money on making a new mold and not wasting it on stupid recolors
they do be milking all the mold

Hey i wanna help pls
I did wooting update my keyboard is dead can’t do anything you hear when it’s connected to pc when the plug is out and a plug what can I do ?
A
how do i remove the plastic case
off my 80he
i unscrewed but wont go apart
nvm
has anyone had issues with plates on 80he? I got a fr4 plate and i think it’s making my spacebar pingy
I’ve tried relubing the stabs but nothing is working
i alr got spacebar foam so idk
i’m using tikkens on gt-80
I changed back to the stock plate and the pingyness is gone so idk
Diamond launch is now in less than 31 hours 👀

do you buy from aliexpress?
In general or?
No, ali too expensive, will buy directly from Wuque
wuque is cheaper?
Considering the Ali offers are above 200$ for the same amount of switches i can get at launch for around 90$, i would say thats cheaper yes
how 90 dollars for me its 90 pounds so surely less
what?
I still don't know what you mean
like for example 90 dollars is 60 pounds for us on the web for me is still 90 pounds
I understand conversion, i have no clue what you are referring to in this instance
the ws diamond for you is 90 dollars but for me it is also 90 dollars why isnt it 60 for me
What do you mean? it's the same amount for everyone
No, it's same amount for everyone and everyone pays in USD on the Wuque site
You are looking at the wrong thing ^^
its ws diamond am i wrong?
Can you see that there are several types?
yes
try the other types? :D
Hellooo i want to mod another wooting module 60he+ im not sure on what switches to buy for it tho
And does anyone have any recommendations on a case
That doesnt cost too kich but still can have that strap of the wooting
kbdfans gt-60 
but shipping might uh..... be a bit painful
Gn
If you’re getting them for V2 they’re nice
Wouldn’t recommend for 80HE if you’re running silicone gasket
They’re great using friction fit and CF plate
Using ocean heart on venom and love it
You’d need to use poron gasket for 80HE, but if you’re running GT80 case it slides a bit
e.g. dcf on v2 banger
If you like 45g springs they’re pretty end game
im rocking the gt80
I’d prob get em for your V2
I’m more partial to ocean heart I think but Cullian is nice on CF
speaking of cf
Ocean is nicer on alu/FR4
i need to buy some more plates
FR nice on v2 icl
it feels different
than normal FR
4
im thinking of copper plate idek if its worth it spending 40 bucks
would be a cool deco on the wall tho
I liked copper for marbly but overtime your switches start to sound plasticky on it
Cullian being double PC I’m not sure it will be gud
Might be different on v2 idk tho
cf my only love
rn im rocking my 80he
but on v2
fr4 sounds so good on dcf
but im only rocking 80he rn for school work
writing page after page...ISO is so weird
i miss my ANSI
but in 2 years
i can go on my v2 again
with ANSI :3 but for now i need my german characters and the f row and the del button with arrow keys etc
How much is it
Did anybody say it wasn't allowed? You asked for switch recommendations and I shared a recommended switch list, what's your problem?
150 is too much for me sadly
sorry understood it the wrong way since ur mod
thought u indirectly told me to just look in that channel
and that theres no need

Literally look at the link. It gives you a link to recommended switches currated by the community in terms what is popular and what not.

aluminum plate
the other budget cases ik doesnt have the strap hole you can use
you can get wootings v2 60he case
wouldnt there be something in the price range of the tofu60 and the strap hole
nope, you can look for a strap attachment that sticks on with double sided tape
or a cheap clone of the wooting case in metal
i wouldnt buy a tofu unless you already own one
just my imo tbh
Any of you know good artisan keycaps
I already own one bought it like a year ago
Ill see
tofu3.0 on the other hand...
god damn why is the tofu pad so expensive
@young viper Diamonds, you buyin?
probably not tbh
although they're neat. For the price to performance I cant justify it. Sounds too similar to my koi rgbs I have
I'd buy the poseidons. But it sounds like they're only planning to release them in a single board
is there a difference between wooting's daughterboard and third party daughterboards like kbdfans?
Is the difference between them big ?
Because the price tag says so
I pre-ordered the Tofu Pad.
Someone posted a screenshot of a WS rep saying they're going to release the Poseidon on their own.
They are being very wishy washy about it
I got the rep to put in a word to his team about releasing them separately
It probably wouldn't be til sometime after the sf60 release
Knowing WS, it may be cheaper to buy a couple SF60’s as opposed to enough switches to fill your 80HE.
Pretty sure it’s that way with the Flux60 vs the Heart of the Ocean.
It's 6$ per 5 at launch, so 102$ for 85
this is what sophie said about it when i asked
how much did you end up spending on it lol
only other news I've seen regarding diamonds is the blood recolor of the cullinans and the "sun" recolor of the heart of the ocean
Yeah, it offers a few new mounting options alongside more modular case designs. Main effect on sound is removing some of the reverb that can commonly be heard with the redux.
Hello, I just modded my Wooting 80HE for the first time mainly the insides, using keytok novas, FR4 plate and foam. I currently have a plastic case that I want to replace with a KBDfans GT-80 but its out of stock unfortunately, and while i wait i wanted to ask for a keycap suggestion that would look and feel good in a black/purpleish color, providing the same or better sound than the stock ones i have and keeping/deepening the sound profile.
oh and maybe some stabilizer suggestion because that spacebar doesn't feel right to me
tried lubing it but didn't quite satisfy
~$140
It was $138 for the options I chose. That’s all said and done with taxes and shipping as well.
try sw knights v4 or yikb x typeplus
some of these might be out of stock
GMK Black Snail (recommend getting the novelties, as well as the alpha kit if you can)
GMK Evil Dolch / KeyKobo Dolch / PBTfans Dolch
PBTfans BOG (Black on Gray)
PBTfans Loki
PBTFans Purpolch r3 / GMK x Glarses POB (Purple on Black)
PBTfans Tape & Radio
if you want the deeper sound profile, stay away from gmk as they use abs which is brighter than pbt
thanks much for the reccomendations
will check out
its just a small list of caps for a darker theme i have
@glacial wind sry for ping but just bought the xvx switches
and ik they effect accuracy but by how much
Huh
?
Well for venom it adds a 0.3mm deadzone, imagine it's similar for Wooting
so not the worst
which is fine since im not playin any comp games that need he rn anyway
https://keyboardtreehouse.com/products/raeds-he-55g-rgb-switches
Raeds HE RGB with updated molds
Our unique rubber dome HE switch, back with LED support Following on from the Raeds HE launched in 2025, we have a slightly heavier version with an all-clear housing and translucent white dome to allow LED lights to shine through. Many HE PCBs and keyboards on the market have LED support, so we felt it was fitting to b
Yay
Oh shit?
raeds back on top 
we need sno to test this
I should pick them up when I am still in Australia
Yea aren't the xvx a bit better than the og Read?
Guessing that it feel the same

I heard xvx have some improvements
We will never know unless we have the man himself test it
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s literally just the tecsee mold
Are there any rubber keycaps for the wooting 80he? For more grip in long Gaming Sessions?
Idk, have you tried looking at all?
Also grip is a weird thing on keycaps? Don't you just want little textured keycaps?
Corsair sells them for wasd
Just google textured keycaps and you find the above on amazon
Yeah maybe because after like 2 hourse of intense gaming I am just sliding around with my fingers even cleaning with isopropyl doesn’t help that much.
That's not a thing that happens to me at all
Because the surface is so smooth
Have you considered a little deskfan aimed at your hands if you're sweaty?
Also higher quality keycaps fade/shine much slower
When your keys get a shine, it means the top layer is worn down
That won’t help.
No they don’t shine
Depending on your budget I'd either get the above I showed
Open budget
Or get GMK keycaps if your budget is very high
Cleaning keycaps with isopropyl isn't a good idea...
cleaning keycaps with isopropol is crazy work
how is "sliding around" on keycaps ever an issue
This might be exactly what you want
i dont think i have ever slid off my keycaps
Like
1: how are your hands THAT sweaty
2: are you balancing your entire hands on your fingertips on your keycaps so they are sliding around

Fingertip pushups
Fingers do not have muscles in them
Also wtf are you doing
I hate how you always do this AND are right
it is my finger tips ..
yeah thx bro
wipe off your keycaps with a cloth and wipe your fingertips between stocks or something

It's a very niche problem. Unfortunately for you
already doing that I am not unhygienic or something
not between stocks because i need to weapon starve and stuff etc,
and that's the only time where I get extra time to think about my opponents neutral
then between matches
It's a fair problem if he encounters it tbh
I just don't know of any other solutions
but wiping your fingers on your shirt when you have a few seconds of downtime should be easy and not take too much away from other stuff
but the keys are still slippery then
only helps a little
but thx I am gonna look for more textured keycaps
And don't clean those new caps with isopropyl 
If you want to clean them, luke warm soapy water is all you need
And don't use an oven or anything to dry them
I think I am gonna buy these:
https://wooting.io/product/wooting-double-shot-pbt-backlit-keycap-set?Color=Just+White&Language=ISO+German
Any keycap will get smooth over time
why? Many people use isopropyl because it's 99% of alcohol? It shouldn't damage the keycaps.
It indeed does
plastic and alcohol not always the best combination
A ok I research it but I think I already do have pbt keycaps so it shouldn't be a problem. I just don't have that grip that you see in the Photos.
Some news, TMR blog is getting close to done btw, so hopefully folks can see it in a week or so
With alcohol you'll make the surface even smoother, so I'm not sure what your goal was
Been piecing bits of it together this past week. It’s such a tricky topic to write since it’s so technical but has to be simplified and explained in a way people can understand
moyu studio Swift Edge, materials are the 3 musketeers: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1047923819718

eweadn upcoming switch, looks like a taishan clone
it's fun cause the more research and examples i find on tmr differences the more BS every claim becomes
ttc flame yellow kom, 1 piece stem: https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=1049043726023
interesting numbers is the higher sensitivity of TMR is actually used/needed due to measuring 0.0001 G magnetic fields such as the human heart. In comparison, the 4mm movement of your magnetic switch is 50-1000 G roughly
then when you calibrate the TMR sensor for this higher magnetic field the higher sensitivity isn't even relevent anymore because you're fitting it within say 1024 steps or whatever you use for 4mm of movement
It has been modulized
Who wants some lekker v2s
Now i just gotta wait for my plates and diamonds
I have like 1000 lekker v2s already that I don’t know wtf to do with them
From changing them out of pro valorant team boards
Enough cereal for a week
So it means it's useless unless our finger movement can be as small as our heart?
Lekker v2 in a ttc box
What keycaps and case you will use?
it'll be my swapping pcb
so i can work on one and mod it etc while still using the other
then i can swap between them to compare directly
I see
yo if anyone wants some free lekker v2 and/or iso de dyesub wooting caps, pull up to gamescom this year and i can give them
It basically means extra sensitivity is like standing next to the loudspeaker at a concert and bragging that if you were 6km away your hearing is so good that you could still hear the song being played
The analogy I’m using for that section right now is it’s like bragging that your cars speedometer displays up to 250 kph while you only drive in 40 kph school zones
Just completely worthless and never used
So it's like people wanting 2/4k polling rate which is also completely useless because polling rate on keyboards doesn't affect performance like mice
If we wanted the extra tmr peak sensitivity to be useful in keyboards, we’d need to purposely make keyboard magnets as 1000x weaker basically, but then we’d just be doing that for no real reason
but... 0.0001mm
you breathing will break that tolerance xd
that’s the funny thing, it doesn’t even help with 0.0001mm
You’re still calibrating the sensitivity to be for the same amount of steps and range anyway
@jed
Eh kinda bit it’d be more like people asking for 592729473k polling rate when usb is limited to 8k
And not even using that polling rate but mere saying the hardware could poll at that rate
yes yess, Looks like you're very much ready to answer every possible question people might have about TMR vs HE. The only other thing people that still believes the claim is saying Wooting just don't wanna innovate... which is also nulled by the fact that HE knob is coming.
Because once you calibrate the sensor for the magnetic field, they end up the same anyway, regardless of sensitivity
So if you wanted to use polling rate as an example it’d be like if you told everyone your keyboard has a piece of hardware that could do 11 million polling rate. Not even that you are doing it but that you could if you wanted to
I assume they’ll like it, mostly because YouTubers don’t spread misinformation on purpose, they’re just lazy and don’t care about researching
So when they get tmr info wrong it’s mostly just they don’t have readily available information and have to guess based on limited time to look into things
I assume once they actually have the information they’ll stop spreading the misinformation because then they’ll look a bit silly
Hipyo will still say TMR is better because it leaves room for mx switches 
I actually do talk about that in the blog as a benefit, but also that the amount of people who request such a feature are not in the majority
I mean it is a fair argument, and for the people that like such feature it's valid to be an option
I do wonder if he realises how niche the amount of people wanting a 1/3 HE 2/3 mx switch setup would be
Like even just for sound enthusiasts I don’t know many or any who think “yeah I want 1/3 of my keys to randomly sound empty and muddy” vs just having a separate gaming keyboard
I imagine a mix of HE and MX really weird, especially for typing, and for gaming you can just use a full HE board
Yeah it’s a weird niche he’s decided is good.
I imagine he will like the woot knob however
I think he’ll continue doing whatever he feels like
Elf kings
That's for sure
He strikes me as a YouTuber who just wants to make entertaining videos about his opinions and he’s not really caring about accuracy or inclusion of what might be the actual logical breakdown
They’re very entertaining and well paced narrative videos, but it’s always his narrative and not necessarily what might be the more typical pov
I agree
32k polling rate when
Never
im thinking of buying a wooting some time today! Does anyone know of any HE switches similar to the silent frozens? I'm really looking for something thats super quiet
Check #🪛│modding_faq
oh perfect, tysm
Silent switches mess with accuracy, so keep that in mind
probably should have checked that before I asked, my bad
Also get a rather muted plate like PC
Are there considerable differences between the 60HE series vs 80HE
layout
I mean yeah other than that
The layout, the 80 got frow, arrow keys and some more
v2 or v1
I suppose just all of them as a whole it's just that the 60HEs are around the same price but the 80 is a bit pricier
But the 60hev2 is basically a refresh of the 60hev1 to be on the same level of the 80
I have my own switches already
id say just get the size u like more
So they aren't drastically different?
Does the plate material cause a drastic sound difference
I mean yeah I can swap them out anyways
And the mounting style
PC sounds more muted compared to FR4
Let's say I want a "thockier" sound profile, which one would I want
The same with the mounting style
So a 60HE+ module?
Just note, you won't achieve real "thock" with HE
As you said, you can switch out the plates anyways
Yeah I am aware
What about the mounting style relative to sound
I currently have a tray mounted kb
@fluid ravine usually is better at explaining sound things, you can ask him when he is around 
Mounting styles
for sounds usually depends
There r factors like plate and switches that is better lubed
mods that work
If u wanna achieve a thockier PROFILE get one switch and then do the lube urself + getting a plate thats able to reduce mostly the high frequency part of the sound wise
If ur asking for traymount, u can also do those gasket mounting system or a O ring mount
Coz idk what type of thock u want and it is very subjective
To also answer this in my opinion PC since i dont have a FR4
But there r others like steel or FR4 everything can be checked in #🪛│modding_faq
Nvm i alrdy answered a answered thing 
thinking of spray painting an fr4 plate, what could go wrong
Don't you have 60HE v2?
What color 
Are you all gonna buy the switches exactly at midnight or I can sleep peacefully till 5 am?
Would buy them somewhere else
On WS they are 2 per switch iirc
Like check keybay, Torontokeyboardman and Ali
Or any reseller
they're buy 3 get 2 so $1.2 each for the promo week
Oh I see, I didn't know about that
this too for $128
Blood diamonds are a recolor?
looks like it, just not sure of which one
technically the blood diamond combo is pricier but you do get exclusive switches
Icic
Blood diamond was confirmed as cullinan recolor according to Wuque folks
they might get me with this. Diamond switch+Zoom64 Case Kit=$179
That's nice
mucho savings
I kinda want, but I have legit no money to spend
Doesn't matter, it comes with an FR4 plate
Yes
It's preinstalled already

Buying at the release minute :)
Mf 😄
bro is ready to scalp
X
It'll be fine, wuque has been selling the switches in China for a while
Someone know from where they ship? China? So 2-3 weeks delivery to Austria?
Scalp what? you are overestimating the value of these.
It's just for personal use.
China, 8-10 business days most likely
He’s kidding
I doubt, but ty
Chinese shipping is really fast
8-10 bussiness days
Where you from?
Okay then
im currently rocking the WS flux deep clacky
Everything
Decided to do something quite unhinged. I managed to meticulously take each of my UFO's apart and individually relubed them. Not gonna lie, they sound wonderful when they're relubed. I just wish it didn't take 5 hours over 2 days. 😭
I honestly like the sound of them after the relube over the cullinan
Did you also watch Kdrama during that?
Nah
Are they all fine or you damaged some
They all work. No casualties.
Maybe one day I'll do the same
Did you open with a screwdriver or with 2 switch pullers
Nah I did it a different way
just upgraded switches and changed layout completely!
btw can anyone tell me if I fucked up with the layout?
I pushed the light diffuser out and slipped a razor blade in the seam between the top and bottom housings and pried them open on one side, waited for the latch to click, slipped a pair of tweezers in the open gap to stop it snapping shut, then pried on the opposite side with the razor blade the same way
It was very tedius but it worked
Sometimes if I was lucky the switch would open by itself by prying open on only 1 side
Generously lubed the guiding rails on the stem, ran a thin film around the inner bore of the top housing and a thin film on the bottom of the magnet
Snapped them back together
Stuffed the light diffuser back into the switch from below
It does the trick
It's just intensely time consuming
and your fingers will be sore
It doesn't matter which way around you stuff the light diffuser into the switch. Either way around works
you might find the ring of plastic that retains the light diffuser a bit loose when you pull it out. You can just bend the plastic back into shape to tighten it back up
a way to lube the UFOs? 
that's sounding good
They do sound lovely afterwards
I'll post a quick demo
surprisingly creamy
I like mine rather clacky
but interesting way to open UFOs
That's fair. and it's definitely way easier to make a clack build with HE
I still have cullinans in the enter, backspace esc and function keys tho for the RGB. Since I'm using polycarbonate caps for those keys
kkb my beloved
Weh I just woke up 

isn't it like 3 pm for you?
2pm
yeah why
3am for me
Sunday
oh you 6 hours in the future from me
I don't know
They're prop in "about to sleep" time, unless they're in Asia, so they're in, still sleepy.
go ahead and ping them lmao
get your breakfast first if you wanna
Lunch at this point 
OH, I just realized, you woke up at 2PM

Oh damn I'm like retracking my thoughts on how I would explain Zephyr about mounting system, plate materials, and sound this shi might be a bit much for me
I swear I wrote something of such at some point in time 
was hesitating with UFOs tbh
only thing I find meh is loosing .5 mm travel length
They're divisive. They sound great and have amazing stability. Some find them a bit heavy too but I don't mind that. The biggest problem by far is lubing them
And their price
But I do agree the lack of 4mm travel options is disappointing
was thinking about getting a few ones to try but I have expensive shipping
so not worth getting my hands on a small pack to try
and as far as I'm aware only officially available on their official website
You can get them in AliExpress but they still aren't cheap
yea, tried searching it for a whole 2 minutes lol
isn't it this? #🔧│keyboard_modding message
I was wondering what you were writing up
you shall see in a few minutes
i was about to shower a long time ago but im invested into this right now
wasn't aware of that
Less than 8 hours left 👀
for ?
Diamonds
wdym?
the wuque studio diamond cullinans and heart of the ocean switches will go for sale soon
Guys if I wanted to tape mod my keybard could I just place layers of tape over the original one on the back, the one that says get to know your wooting 60hev2 etc
Hey! Seems like you need help understanding how plate material, mounting styles, and foam can be related to sound and how each factor works with one another. I might drop a whole paragraph at most but that's how I tend to explain things, so sorry if it's a bit much in advance. I will take things off with plate material.
Plate material have a great influence in the frequency of the boards sound. Each material can be similar or very different based on their material categories. To simply break it down on the common plate materials we use:
Plastic plates:
PC: Lower end of the frequency chart, tends to give a dead or muted sound profile
PP: Just like the PC plate, it's on the lower end of the frequency chart but due to its material it has a unique pop sound signature compared to PC.
POM: POM is a bit more rigid compared to the two, it still offers a low pitch sound but has a better "pop" signature to it due to its stiffness as a plastic plate
More denser plates
FR4: Simply Neutral since it's the same material as the PCB 
Alu: Moderate volume and sound signature, can be bright and also has a unique resonance sound profile (can be hit or miss depending on the board)
CF: Bright sound profile, great for clacky boards, but depending on the mount within the board, it can be more of a slightly brighter FR4 sound signature.
Steel: The loudest and pingiest of them all 
I won't really go into plate flexibility since HE boards uses standoffs but from greatest to least (most flexible to least) here's the order: PP>PC>POM>FR4>ALU>CF>Steel
Alright next topic is mounting systems. I'm not going to go through all of the mounting systems and how they work within this keyboard hobby so I'll just go through with what is normally used in HE boards and how they work and differ from others. The most commonly used mounting style that you will see across HE boards is most definitely tray mount. Tray mount is a great use for having the most rigid and stiffest mount in a keyboard. You screw in the PCB directly onto the case through certain points of the PCB and case and boom, you got yourself a tray mount. But tradeoffs with this is how it influences reverb and sound. When screwing in a PCB directly onto the case, it means that as you're typing, vibrations are directly transferring throughout the case because of these tray mount points and PCB to case contact. It produces harsh sounds within the board and case such as hollowness, ping, reverb, and all sorts of things. So what's a different mount that doesn't do all that?
Isolation mount such as gasket mount, gummy o'ring, tadpole mount, friction fit, etc. Mounts like these do a great job at isolating the sound of the PCB, plate, switches, and keycaps away from the case unlike tray mount, bottom out, and top mount. Another pro to these isolation mount systems is that they give the user a softer typing experience since they are not directly mounted into the case. (You can search up images on how these mounting system works)
And last topic is how foam works. I already have a full explanation here so I don't have to retype the whole thing. #🔧│keyboard_modding message Thock vs Clack & How foam works
TLDR: In a keyboard, foam used as a "sound dampener" can target certain frequencies of sound to produce a different sound wave length of choice, depending on the density and volume of foam that is being used in a keyboard. PCB Sheets like IXPE or PE Foam sheets are used as a sound modifier, which is used to filter or change the sound profile of the board (especially when bottoming out a switch).
When the mechanical waves of sound travel through thinner foam, depending on how much is put in the board, it tends to reduce higher frequency sounds, emphasizing the lows and mids, which we call thock. But if thicker foam is packed into the keyboard, there is less space for the waves to travel through, making the foam more like a wall or surface for sound and frequency waves to bounce off, which causes clack.
ok i lied
a paragraph was not at most
first misinformation
but how to get creamy sound 
looks like tuanGPT to me
shame
GPTson 
bro selected the wrong upgrade path 😭
went into keyboards instead of math 
Using Sound Acoustic Modifiers to raise the mids! 
yeeeeup...
I'M SORRRY
ima say this the next time my teacher asks if i use ai
LMAOOOO
max verstappen doing anything but winning in F1 
I mean yeah that's fine
You essentially just doing 2 layers of tape mod then
yap church
Maybe he should change his name to Min Verstappen
hey guys, im coming from an silent hhkb with topre switches. always loved the feel and sound, but wanted the HE switches for valorant.
so i ended up getting the 60he v2 with the geon raw HE switches. and they are waaay too loud for me.
i noticed that there are some silenced switches on the faq switch database. the XVX EC/HE switches look really nice, especially since i would be going back to my beloved EC domes.
the issue im wondering about is the warning about silent switches making the switches less accurate? and since i play valorant, im wondering exactly what the tradeoffs are here?
Pretty much that, they're less accurate the bounciness of the switch makes it so you have to set a pretty high "deadzone" to stop incidental inputs
Orders of magnitude less accurate and generally not recommended if you're wanting the most competitive switch
Hey, I need help with my Wooting 60HE+. I get a “Bootloader error” and Wootility Web does not detect the keyboard on multiple PCs. The keyboard still works for typing and in BIOS, but recovery/bootloader mode does not work at all even after trying different USB ports, cables, browsers, and registry fix. Has anyone had this and fixed it?
is there much info out there that i could check out to see if i could accept that downgrade?
Sorry, I didn’t know.
Not really, tikkens are accurate to 0.02mm and the venom has a hard cap of 0.3mm deadzone which I can only assume Wooting would be similar to account for that bounce
Not really anyway to test for that aside from using them yourself though or believing what others who have used them say
Anyone got some nice pair of keycaps for the price range of max 50 doubleshot pbt or just pbt is fine as well
White or Something i could pair well white a white Acrylic case
Light colors would work well too
For this price range, the wooting ones are pretty nice
check FBB keycaps
Ill check that out thanks
Yes thanks been thinking of that too but they arent really mine
In terms of designs
@sacred elm sick designs icl
Gn
Was busy earlier, but coming back to this message, any neutral to lower frequency plates work just fine. The influence of sound acoustic foams can drastically change how your board sound. Plates in their own ways have their own characteristics with sound in how the play in a board but they can still fit into the description of clack<->thock depending on your build. If you want to thock in a build, then just use the right foams and the right amount. Focus on using foams that can lower high frequencies and emphasize on the lows and mids. Try to take advantage on using a mount that isolates the module as well as use something like poron plate foam rather than silicone. For case foam, try using foam that is more spacious and dense rather than something like a solid block of silicone or just straight up shoving too much foam (it will do the opposite effect of dampening)
If you do read my Thock vs Clack & How foam works explaination thing, i explained how it works.
If you want to go further than just using foam alone, you can try using compatible pcb sheets (like the ones Wooting uses in their v2) or like tape mod as an sound acoustic modifier to change how the board sounds even more.
Simple way to explain it as well is foam being a gain meter kind of thing and the sound acoustic modifiers is the EQ tool.
This is how much foam can change your board (you dont have to like how my board sound especially since im a clack and foamless enjoyer but this is just a prime example of what im trying to explain)
W thockson yap 
Anyone knows how rgb works on these ? Is the 60he+ module enough to get some underglow?
Ill be buying transparent switches as well so the effect is better
@tulip rapids has one
You heard of anything that he used ?
@tulip rapids if you have one is the rgb good on it and what do i do for good underglow
there's raw acrylic( clear transparency ) and there's acrylic (frosted coating ). I have acrylic. The rgb lighting from wooting module is good enough. Here's a pic at 70% brightness
i will mod this board soon
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Looks sick
What type of switches are u using
The clear one is sold out everywhere pretty sure sadly
in that pic deep clack fluxes
right now im on 80he
with diamonds
Whats that
Never heard of those but heard that getting clear ones should help a lot already
I got no money for that
I bought a used module
For 80 euros
Used keyboard
And ill built a new one out of that
Diamond launch in 27 👀
Wooo, Diamonds ordered 🙂
I got some other nice looking set
Not clear
But
Wooo!
Did you have discount code?
I didn't
are the blood diamonds a recolor of the Cullinan or the Heart of Ocean?
Cullinan
Haha I love it when people utilize bold letters to denote stuff so it's easier to read. I do that too and I know it helps a lot 
And proper paragraphing

Would it be advantageous to go foamless if I want to achieve a thockier sound?
Depends on the build
but you'll highly get better result of "thock" with foam
Or just really really thin foam
yeah sure
foam density also counts in the equation too
Well I guess if I want to go thinness then PE mod would be the way to go...?
hey yall, i have a 80he build w/ ur ice ultra r1, just wondering if there is any switch out there that is more "deep"/bassy ? saw some r2 and the keytok as well as the tikkens
R2 sounds same as your current version. If you want deeper switch, try Nova
I suggest not doing PE mod esp since there aren't that many sheets that are thin enough to not mess with the hall effect actuations bs
i dont recommend switch pads as well
oooo okok ill give them a go, btw would novas still have that deep clack on bottomout?
There will always be some sort of clack
Nova has very muted clack though, because of PA12 bottom and split stem
I'm probably gonna pick up a 60HE+ (steel plate prob) soon, what are some first mods to do with it? (alr have WS deep clacky as switches)
Get a new plate, preferably a plastic plate for your preference
I'll probably tape mod it firsthand
oooo that sounds perfect, thank you very much!
but in the 80he since im forced to use foam, i may as well jsut go for a foamy build 🙃
wait does the 2he use the same mounting styule as the 80he
no it uses tray mount
ahhhhhh nvm
if i could onyl just figure out a way to go foamless in this, i definitely would run clacky builds
i modified it to be bottom mounted thouhg
3d printing?
cnc milled a case
ahhhhhh
thats cool, i might look into that, and then get a custom plate so i can top mount it
80he brass case pls
imagine the cost in this economy, heard alu prices are going up by a fair bit
Imagine bronze case
Keyboard of Liberty
with a matching artisan
I have my tactype sample kit in and these things are thock monsters
Unfortunately there is a notable qc issue
Snaggletooth keycap type shit
wait holy shit the wooting 80he can be built foamless, i somehow got the keysnaps to work in it, i need yalls best clacky switch recs
Keytok nova build
Oh? Did you place the keysnaps where the silicone blocks would be?
If you could post some pictures that would be great, it might make me order some keysnaps if it works well
nope, i just took off the tape, put em in the regular positions (3 bottom: one on win key, other on rctrl key and one on down key), then two 2 fkm keysnaps at the top), but i do have the gt80 case, not the regular plastic wooting case, i think i threw that one out. and then for the ones on the top of the pcb, i had to put a strip of foam underneath so the keysnaps could be "taller" otherwise it would interfere with the top case

ooooo they sound very very nice
I really wanna give that a try now
the ones on bottom are the blue ones, i think they are super light i think 40a silicone
btw it does take some pushing/pulling to make sure it doesnt interfere with the top case. but overall it does work fine imo
and keysnaps are pretty cheap where i am, only cost me like ~30 aud for the 40a, 70a and fkm keysnaps
Yeah they are like 6 euro per pack of 6 here
So 18 euro total for one pack of each hardness
i honestly do think you might just get away with only getting one hardness, i went with the 40a at the bottom since i wanted it to compress slightly in case of clearance issues so it wont be too tall, and fkm at the back cuz i wanted it rigid to be as "tall" as possible, but i could be completely wrong and it doesnt change anything
but then again, i don't have the original wooting case so i cant test it out there sorry
Keep in mind that you'll need poron foam between the plate and the pcb
yeah of course!, might get a second module, one for foam and one for clack
wait in that case, lemme post some pictures of my setup
I also hand (over)lubed them
I have 2 layers of tape, a PET film and 2 poron foams and another PET film
Foammaxing
@tropic urchin keysnap on 80he for no silicone pad 

That is sick af
and then soundtest, just to note its thick ass pbt keycaps and ur ice ultra and PC plate so not as clacky as i want but gonna get some gmk and a nice clacky switch, just need to find one
also when you click in the top case, grab the module by the f-row and push/pull sideways and upwards until the top keys dont interfere with the case
Clip clop
also i found you NEED the strip of foam otherwise f-row will interfere with the case no matter how much you push and pull

ooo lemme give the ttc horses a listen
I dont think i have foam strips with glue on em
mines not glued
So i‘ll probably just have to cut the foam that came with the 80he
u just position it while laying the moduel flat and make sure the jst cable doesnt move it too much
u can buy some cheap poron foam off of ali, thats where i got mine
true true, if you never gonna use em again might as well
Also, if you want, i have TTC horse and fr4 plate on my 80he
So if you want to hear it with the keysnaps on i will probably send a soundtest when i get to doing that mod
oooo yes please!, i was thinking of MAYBE the ti he, cuz i heard they were all the rage back then, but very expensive ngl
(I also have a current sound test where i cut out the middle of the silicone pad)
Horsies will be more expensive probably :/
But they are really nice
ooooo yeah theyy do sound very nice hmmmmmm
I want horsies so bad
Could also check out ws diamond
Those are new up and coming switch that also sounds good
i also did hear the duhuk herz are similar to the ti he
Would you still be interested in the blood diamonds or should i just get my diamonds for cheaper 
I think they are recolors
Yeah they are
ehhh theres only a 10$ price difference on aliexpress
might js go with the ti he cuz i dont want pink rgb tinting
I would be!! How many?
If i buy the diamond set it‘d be 20
I have 10 of cullinan and 10 of HotO
I'm on airplane internet atm, so dm if I don't answer 
Also check Kailh Ice Cream magnetic switches on Ali. They're cheap, stable and sound good https://youtube.com/shorts/IGghORQBY60
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I‘d trade blood diamonds 1:1 for cullinans
ooo they do sound really nice!, damn there are too manyswitches i want to buy now 😭
Sure, I can do 10 then!

If you‘re going to gamescom we could trade em then or we spend the extra money to ship em back and forth
I dont even know where that takes place 
Hehe
It's about 16 euros for a package to Germany
Is that even worth it for 10 switches? :(
Dang
#🌟│wooting80he message every time i see jades in one of these lists i freak the fuck out
Make the word jade bannable
I‘ve BEEN saying this

i'm sorry @broken notch i think i may not get the blood diamonds cause it's like a 40 euro price difference 😭
ordered my diamonds (and more stuff)
got so many orders coming in the next few weeks 
Does anyone by ANY CHANCE have a free shipping discount code 
DISCORD DISCOUNT is the only code available
What is it that HE switches always sound so much worse than mechanical ones? Would it not be possible to simply take a really nice mechanical switch and then… stick a magnet on the bottom of it? Is there an intrinsic reason why they always seem to sound and feel so much worse or…
Is this for the newly stocked Diamonds? Didn’t work for me
If you did that, it would sound weird cause the magnet would be hitting the bottom instead of the stem 😄
No, this is for the wooting store
This is my 60HE V2 on a tofu redux with gravastar ufo switches and ceramic mda profile keycaps
Shakycam
Ah okay got it, that makes sense haha. So is there an intrinsic issue that causes the worse sound you are aware of?
Aiglatson is considering a Vella R2 👀
what difference is there between a flex cut plate (i think thats the term) and non-flex cut? is there any sound difference?
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Does anyone know where i can find ttc noble horse switches the cheapest
Ive been looking to buy 70 but cant find a offer
With 70 only
Only 90
TTC Horse Magnetic Switch OG Version: OG Code RGB Version: No OG Code, RGB Switch Features: Initial force: 3510gf Initial Magnetic Flux: 9010Gs(PCB 1.6mm) , 10010Gs(PCB 1.2mm) Final Magnetic Flux: 48040Gs(PCB 1.6mm), 64040Gs(PCB 1.2mm) Pre Travel: Customized Total Travel: 3.450.2mm Lifetime: 100million times keystroke
This has 35 pack
tf is clip clop sound
is that the sound of a lego character walkin
fixed? https://youtu.be/dpeYZ-55Zj0
If you buy a Wooting 60HE V2 thinking its the best gaming keyboard... you might want to upgrade it. So I tried using a Zoom64 case with the Flux60HE.
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Soundtest of mechanical version by @alexotos
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ban this guy!!!!!
Tuff
somehow people still get hacked 
OR watch
a/b titles moment
what is a superwooting 
Knob boi strikes again
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damn, it's kai cenat this time
Monee
tank
His mom let him buy diamonds instead of the cheapest 80HE config this time
Holyyy
What not having PCR and lekkers does to a mf
Diamonds = good???
It does seem so
its sitll probably bad
At least he made it sound better, unlike squashy boy
does anyone have recs for clacky switches and stabs for the v2
Finally a clack enjoyer
For stabs get the Knight V4 or YIKB. For switches read the FAQ
He said that the the poseidons, cullinans ans heart of the ocean all sound the same
Ive read that Wuque Flux switches are highly recomended, any idea why they arent on the suggested list? thanks!
stabs are also mentioned in faq 
Im asking as I found a listing for 70 on aliexpress for relatively cheap
The deep clackys are very nice and used to be in the list
and on Ebay, "Deep Clacks" and Keytok switches from the same person for 40 dollars
All Flux switches are very good. If they are not on the chart, doesn't mean they're bad or something
I prefer it too a muted sound
because there are newer switches in some categories probably, fluxes are nice, no need to be on the chart
I see, thanks! Im listening to their sound test and they sound really nice! Quick follow up if you don't mind, is there any difference between a 3.5mm travel vs a 4mm travel? besides the literal physical travel distance
I noticed 4mm is not very common in HE so im wondering if its a tikken upgrade
Yes. You may need to add GEON spacers to your stabilizer keys.
Just read so! 2 YIKB seems to be ideal for me.
Im based in CA so divnikey ships cheaply to me
"may" you usually don't need them, unless you encounter issues with tolerance
Noted! thanks. Just to be clear this is true on the split module as well?
Wobbly stabs are a pet peeve so it's good to have them to hand
Yes. The GEON spacers effectively lengthen the poles of your stabilisers to compensate for the shorter travel distance of the switch. It avoids the problem of your stabiliser keys teeter-tottering on the switch when you fully depress the key
I see, thank you guys!
Im gonna go ahead and order the YIKKB stabs 2x and the Deep Clack switches
along with the stem spacers
That's a solid combo
Get 1 full size set instead, it has enough 2u wires for the split 60HE v2 https://milktooth.com/products/typeplus-stabilizers-fullsize
The Typeplus x YiKB stabilizer set offers exceptional performance with its patented secured wire mechanism and premium POK construction, ensuring smooth, rattle-free keystrokes every time. Engineered for reliability and consistency, it eliminates common issues like wire pop-out while delivering linear force travel for a premium typing experience...






