🔧│keyboard_modding

[little glen]

Like resonance type thing

[tropic urchin]

I’ve only had weird spring crunch on W and S keys but I also don’t play OSU

But it’s very annoying when I want 45g long spring WASD and I have to swap to another switch just to get it to stabilize

[sacred elm]

I think even swapping is a temporary fix

[peak breach]

Yall must be slamming your keys

[tropic urchin]

Spring swap yeah, but switch swap no

[tropic urchin]

Not at all

It’s not even consistent when it happens

[thorn zealot]

U must be coping and delusional

[calm pulsar]

can't have good shit in HE😭

[thorn zealot]

Wym

U can abuse silksong movement

[calm pulsar]

I meant rapters shoulda been the new goat

but they have crunch issues

[gray vapor]

Better color match for OW60? GMK shaded black on gray or gray on black?

[reef oar]

raptors backfiring now huh?

[worn hearth]

The master

[reef oar]

nothing can dethrone jade pros.

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/difficult-stubborn-sparks-lighter-gif-21188955

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magnetic-spark-switch

[reef oar]

apart from those puppies

[calm pulsar]

pc stem and pc top housing again

[tropic urchin]

putting silicone cut out back onto keyboard for PP plate fluxies is actually end game tech

[stray tiger]

I haven't even looked at mechmarket in over a week. I might be getting close to keyboard satisfaction

[calm pulsar]

are they even good? I think jade pros might still be the most decent switch gateron put out maybe including ruby and moonlight here cause they are jade pro recolors pretty much

[spiral crater]

whats the command for the switch infographic?

[thorn zealot]

Its just in the modding faq

#🪛│modding_faq message

[spiral crater]

ahhhh okay thank you!

[thorn zealot]

👍

[polar girder]

Looks cool tho

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-mean-girls-movie-movie-mean-girls-gretchen-wieners-lacey-chabert-gif-4434183393865059760

[calm pulsar]

https://youtu.be/LF4rwYogYpc

geon building a tofu tkl

[spiral crater]

also im assuming that the raptor v2 really change the rgb lights for the keyboard so it will all look like in the orange/red range?

[sacred elm]

Yes, get UR Ice Ultra if you care about RGB.

[spiral crater]

ahhh gotcha gotcah thank youuu

[glacial wind]

yeah ur ice ultra, mmd c1, phylina thunderflash white, ttc rgb (whichever one you like from them) are all good rgb picks

sidenote, the gateron tactiles are 3.5mm, so that's a chance they don't suffer from same issue as the 3.2mm sparks

need to test them though

[sacred elm]

Have you tested MMD C1 yet?

[glacial wind]

should have them by monday-ish

[glacial mauve]

Hi, does anyone know the thickness of the Wooting 60he+ silicon fit pad? I bought 4t silicone, but I'm not sure if it will fit.

[tawdry tree]

3.5mm between the plate and PCB, a bit thicker on the sides.

[glacial mauve]

4mm is too much, right?

🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹

[tawdry tree]

yeah

:/

[glacial mauve]

oh...thanks

[tawdry tree]

did you buy a silicone sheet and planned to cut all the holes yourself?!

[fluid ravine]

def not a great idea at all esp how the out layer of the friction pad is stupid thin

[languid kestrel]

yeah not sure what the plan was here

[spiral crater]

guys is this comob too much: gt80, POM plate, ixpe sheet btwn PCB and switch, poron plate foam, two layers of PET on the back of the PCB, poron case foam, polyfill on top

am i over dampening???

[fluid ravine]

The biggest concern i'd say is the poron case foam with polyfill

Would just run with one or the other

[spiral crater]

i was trying to nuke the highs but it just made it so chattery/weird sound

[fluid ravine]

you're basically suffocating the pcb and another thing is that since GT80 uses ball catch system, the amount of pressure and thickness from the case foam and polyfill alone can push the pcb upwards and possibly pop out the top frame of the case off of its ball catch syustem

[fluid ravine]

well i'd say you're not taking full advantage of the foam itself

people think that maxxing out foam in a board will dampen most to all of the highs and think it would achieve their desired "thock"

but that's not really how foam works lol

like PET film and the IXPE sheet for example, those are used as sound modifiers, another way of saying a sound manipulator of the bottom out sound for a keyboard

then we got case foam and plate foam

jam packing foam actually increases the highs because you're filtering and dampening the low ends

you need some space in foam density to allow higher frequency waves to travel through the foam converting it into a slower mechanical wave

[spiral crater]

ohhhhhh, yeah cuz i thought if i just stuffed eveyrthing, it would just kill the whole high range. im assuming the stock wooting 80he sheet on the back of the pcb is PET? and there was another clear sheet in the modding kit i got that was supposed to be stuck on the back so i stuck that too

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

i typed this out a while back

it's kind of a lot

but i hope it helps

[little glen]

I would also like to add that putting too much foam can cause the pcb to rest against it and 1. change the typing feel 2. cause a worse sound due to the physical connection 3. cause overheating

I‘d honestly just use a diff plate, switches and either foam or poly fill

[spiral crater]

im using just the poron case foam like you suggested and it does sound a lot clearer
and thank you, that does make sense what you typed

[spiral crater]

wait pom plate not good? i thought POM was deepest

[fluid ravine]

nah nah

keep POM

[little glen]

Diff plate from normal

[fluid ravine]

He's not using PC

[little glen]

Yeah thats good

[fluid ravine]

unless he mixed it up

lol

POM is a good low density plate option to be honest

[little glen]

Tho i prefer a stiffer plate for he personally

[spiral crater]

so im running gt80, UR ICE studio ultra, POM plate and poron plate foam, and just a layer of poron case foam

and then KAM keycaps cuz theyre thick pbt

[fluid ravine]

compared the PC, it's not as dead sounding, it has that "pop" signature sound to it so its not as dead

[fluid ravine]

i mean should be fine either way esp with the plate to pcb screws

[fluid ravine]

sounds fine to be honest

[little glen]

Well all we know now is that pc sounds dead

[fluid ravine]

yup

hate PC plate tbh

dead af

[little glen]

80he refresh better use fr4 or alu or pp

[spiral crater]

do i gamble on an fr4 plate from aliexpress?

[fluid ravine]

PP plate

[spiral crater]

i wonder how fr4 plate would change the sound

[fluid ravine]

fr4 plate is more neutral

compared to all the other plates

since it's made of the same material as the PCB

[spiral crater]

but even with all these mods and foam it's still so clacky LOL, im guessing its just the switches

[little glen]

HE will always clack

[fluid ravine]

UR ICE Studio ultra is pretty deep no?

[little glen]

Just embrace the clack

[fluid ravine]

compared to all the other HE switches

honestly yeah true

[little glen]

Deep clack is still clack

[fluid ravine]

embrace the clack

yeah

can't thock

[spiral crater]

im hoping the new tikkens will be deeper cuz theyre open bottom no?

[steady halo]

they're closed bottom

[spiral crater]

and full travel as well

[fluid ravine]

like i swear, like lately even in the MX scene people dont really know what thock is

[spiral crater]

oh ... damn

[fluid ravine]

compared to clack

[fluid ravine]

4mm closed bottom

[steady halo]

i think clack is an enthusiast preference

[fluid ravine]

i agree

love clack to the fullest

[steady halo]

so newcomers mx scene are based

with what enthusiast use

[glacial wind]

doubt we'd ever do PP

[spiral crater]

do we have any idea what the tikkens material would be? or not out yet

[little glen]

Plastic

[spiral crater]

LOL

[glacial wind]

PP too flexy for a lot of competitive folks, so don't think we'd ever go that flexible

[fluid ravine]

my guess would be PC top, POM stem, Nylon Bottom housing

your typical HE switch material combo

[little glen]

True probably fr4 then

Since its not as bright as alu

[fluid ravine]

The top and stem are pretty obvious

[spiral crater]

oooo nylon bottom, i wish they would make full nylon housing, unless that messes up the sensors

[fluid ravine]

nothing wrong with nylon top housing

i think they just prioritize on RGB tbh

[little glen]

I want more fiberglass bottom housings

[fluid ravine]

YOU TOO???

W mans

my goat

shiiii

glad i aint the only one on this

[little glen]

Brother i am one of 2 people in the world that praise the goated switch (rawhuks)

[glacial wind]

but what about fiberglass keycaps

[fluid ravine]

HAHAHHA real

[fluid ravine]

[little glen]

Soon to be duhukkens

[glacial wind]

i will say i hate this world where i can't bag lube my switches because i need them stock for sound test comparisons

i can hear spring ping in all the switches i test now

[fluid ravine]

damn

[fluid ravine]

time to buy 2 sets of switches

one for stock and one for lubing

LMAO

how to waste money 101

for keyboard science

[little glen]

I mean that may be a good piece of content

[fluid ravine]

LOL

[little glen]

Comparing bag lubed vs fresh switches etc

[fluid ravine]

people recording stock vs lubed be like

[spiral crater]

wait for bag lubing, do i gotta dissassemble the switches or just throw in the switches into a bag w/ lube

[glacial wind]

only the springs

[fluid ravine]

yeah it's only for springs

[glacial wind]

unless you're a psychopath you don't bag lube the stems as well

[fluid ravine]

everything else you hand brush

gotta lube the keycaps as well yknow what im saying

[spiral crater]

ahhhhh, nvm, i lubed a switch and it made no difference to the sound that i could hear so i cant be bothered anymore

[fluid ravine]

i'm over here tripping out over frakensteining different top housings

[glacial wind]

the difference with spring ping is quite noticable. I built an 80he for one of our sponsored folks using the jade pros i hand lubed and bag lubed ages ago, and it was noticable that there's zero ping in any switch

[fluid ravine]

us bag lubing geon pingless springs

[little glen]

Meanwhile i stuck to raw tops cause i was too lazy to isolate the stem on each switch

[fluid ravine]

dudeeee i gotta be tripping out with duhuk top housing vs raw top housing

[little glen]

Now i‘m gonna have to do it anyway when making duhukkens

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

i wanna titons

[spiral crater]

correct me if im wrong, but HE switches will never be not clacky cuz theres a magnet that hits the bottom housing right?

[fluid ravine]

should i get titons

[little glen]

Nah one thing you gotta admit is that duhuks dont have that top sticking issue that raws had

[glacial wind]

mostly so yeah. Even tikkens while being 'deeper' than other He switches are still a bit clacky

[fluid ravine]

pretty much, the bottom housing floor of the bottom out hole has a thickness increase esp with closed bottom housing switches. it's the reason why they have a reduced travel switch and causes a louder bottom out sound like a mx long pole even though its not a long pole

woah

english

hollup

had a aneurism reading that

[fluid ravine]

that's fact

[spiral crater]

and theres no plan to bring back open bottom switches? cuz correct me again if im wrong but i feel like taht would kinda reduce the clack no?

[glacial wind]

i actually really like the gateron spark sound as far as muted sound signatures go. It's still very clear despite being muted - pity about the compatibility issues

[fluid ravine]

i'm still bummed with how duhuks has that stupid dampening shit on the stem

[glacial wind]

most people hate open bottom sound more than clack

[fluid ravine]

if it wasn't a thing within the switch we wouldnt have to frakenstein it

[spiral crater]

oooo quick question, would you say tikkens are "deeper" than ice studio ultras?

[glacial wind]

you know how china likes to put 'hi-fi' on every switch now? that's because of open bottom being not hifi

the idea is that hifi = clear distinct sound

[fluid ravine]

😭

my rawhukies are very hi-fi

[glacial wind]

i'll have a sound comparison next week probably so people can see for themselves

[spiral crater]

oooo thank youuu

[fluid ravine]

let's just say, sound leaks out of the hole

LOL

it's very dead and mute sounding

;-;

[little glen]

We do need more semi opens

[spiral crater]

do u have a link to an open bottom swithc sound test? from what im hearing i actually think i might like that sound profile

[little glen]

I like the raw sound tbh

[fluid ravine]

ohhh yeaa

Raws bottom out was somethin

that shi on alu smacks

except the top out

but we dont talk about that

[glacial wind]

btw for those who didn't see, here's a look at an early version of our upcoming switch table https://library.wooting.io/225eb39179848072869fdddc3b9ae808

[fluid ravine]

that's with the old gen switches...

like lekkers, raptor v1, ks20, ks20u and what not

[sacred elm]

Bring back dark mode NOOOO

[fluid ravine]

with all that top out chatter bs

[sacred elm]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[fluid ravine]

flashbang

[glacial wind]

lol i can put it back to both options now, i had to swap to light mode for awhile because we were trying to embed it into the website

[fluid ravine]

looking good

[glacial wind]

but we decided to just have it separately linked so i can put it back to choose whatever the users computer is set to lol

[fluid ravine]

where gateron sparks @glacial wind

?

in stability pick

[glacial wind]

incompatible for now

[fluid ravine]

oh wait fr?

[glacial wind]

the magnet is too weak due to them being 3.2mm and not changing the magnet position or strength

[fluid ravine]

damnn

[glacial wind]

it doesn't bottom out, until simon releases his beta of the switch selector i can't list them as compatible

[fluid ravine]

ic

[glacial wind]

the tactiles may be okay though because they're 3.5mm instead

but i need to wait to test those still

it's a real pity because everyone at gamescom liked the feel/sound of the gateron sparks, but not bottoming out is no good

[fluid ravine]

is there a sound test of them by chance?

dont think i've heard it myself if so

[glacial wind]

i haven't recorded a full test but here's a really poor quality version i did when i was testing owlab compatibility lol #🔧│keyboard_modding message

they're basically a really muted, more quiet switch, but the sound is still very distinct

they're also very noticably short travel though, even my wife typed on them for 10 seconds and noticed they felt different compared to 3.5mm raptors

[fluid ravine]

gotta step back from using mx, my expectations too high right now LOL

me as im typing on my neo

[fluid ravine]

3.2 you said?

[glacial wind]

yeah they're incredibly short travel

even visibly shorter when you look at the stem next to any of the 3.5mm ones

[fluid ravine]

hmm

sup aligner

[tawdry tree]

how does one sell products at a loss, consistently without going out of business? I don’t get it: https://youtu.be/b66SCaJtpoU

[tawdry tree]

hi dear

[fluid ravine]

hayoo

[tawdry tree]

another sound test: #🔧│keyboard_modding message

of some other recent switches as well

[fluid ravine]

oo thanks

damnit gotta pull out my iems again

LOL

[glacial wind]

i honestly don't trust those sound tests at all

because of how the unionwells sound

[tawdry tree]

lucky for you the guy did 3 sound tests with different builds each time

[glacial wind]

i just instantly don't trust any sound test rig that shows unionwells without the awful sound

[fluid ravine]

oh yeah no

i remember your sound test of it

and it just clicked im like wtf

[chilly mural]

mmm, maybe because they produce like 4-8 new keyboard every month and only do enough

[fluid ravine]

swore had that weird ahs ound

[chilly mural]

just gotta have that 0.001rt

[fluid ravine]

now time to put dem iems away

[tawdry tree]

still though, hard to understand for me

[tawdry tree]

the sound profile is accurate, just the chatter isn’t really

[fluid ravine]

alr, im out,
good night guys

[tawdry tree]

good morning

[fluid ravine]

oh shit

[chilly mural]

good afternoon

[fluid ravine]

it is morning

[little glen]

Good morning thockson

[fluid ravine]

OH SHIIIIIII

[glacial wind]

chatter is a big part of sound profile for me though, so i hate sound tests that hide chatter

[fluid ravine]

im cooked, school in 3 hours yurrr

[fluid ravine]

HE switches aint never gonna escape chatter

no matter how tight dem inital stem wobble is

[tawdry tree]

they already did man 😭

idc

[little glen]

How do you feel about my sound tests, complete with pc fan noise and noise from outside

[fluid ravine]

EQ's all higher frequencies down

[chilly mural]

Spark sound test (cat is meowing, parents are arguing, and laptop is blasting)

[little glen]

I dont eq shit i just record from audacity and edit out me failing to even hit 50 wpm on monkeytype

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

frameskipping

ok im out, deadass this time

morning yall

[little glen]

I lied, i dont even do that

Just recording straight from my shit ass glass desk setup

Landlord special

[glacial wind]

Hopefully recorded on a Sony lens at least

[little glen]

Nah thats too expensive

Recorded on a beyerdynamic fox

I think a bunch of my tests are linked in the sound test thread

[ruby hill]

Venom65he in stock now, any case suggestion?

[chilly mural]

@glacial wind I feel like you should've do $0.3/pc for single dollar sign, 0.5/pc for 2 sign, $1/pc for 3 sign, and anything above 1.3 or 1.5 being 4 sign or more with 5 sign reserved for something above $2/pcs. This makes me assume gateron spark is the same price as TTC KOM/POM

[noble turret]

I cannot wait to receive all my keyboard parts! Finally found PBT backlit keycaps and got my jade pros, just waiting on wooting and the keycaps now!

[glacial wind]

Yeah I’m still fine tuning some things like the wobble for example has to be fine tuned to top and bottom

Price is tricky because there’s an extreme outliers at the top

If $1 is 3 the problem is it makes almost everything 2 stars which is a big gap

Other issue is prices are fluid too so it makes it tricky if you go too fine tuned then it gets inaccurate with the constant sales

[chilly mural]

oh yeah, that time flux becomes $1.3 per switch

[chilly mural]

can't you just list the nonsale msrp?

[glacial wind]

I could but msrp is really far off for some

And it changes a lot depending on regions like US who can’t buy from aliexpress

Or Europe that has to pay taxes

I think end of the day I don’t think price can ever be that exact so just giving a vague idea is good enough and it’s in each person to look it up after that

A lot of Chinese switches don’t seem to really have an official western msrp too and it’s just whatever the aliexpress vendor picks

[chilly mural]

hmm, if that's the case can you at least have something above $1/pc being more than just 3? Since there's barely any within above $1 or even $2 range, it should communicate enough how much expensive the switch is compared to the rest.

[glacial wind]

I’ll see if I fits, part of the thing is the info also needs to be very slim to all fit on our mobile format

So I tried to keep info to 3 or less dividers

[untold wigeon]

when wooting 7u 🙁

[tranquil lake]

These mmd C1 are incredibly good for that price

Worse sound, but less wobble, better rgb compared to owlabs

[thorn oyster]

This looks like an amazing resource to build up. A question, what does "semi-compatible" mean, should there be a notes column for each switch to provide such info?

Or are we just taking semi-compatible to be not recommended? 🙂

[glacial wind]

There is a notes column actually, if you click the switch name it has more info

Semi compatible means it works but has some issues usually with magnet

things like it works except it doesn’t bottom out fully at 4mm for example with gateron sparks

[fallen pecan]

they have 80~100k+ units sold on their popular SKUs, one of the larger budget brands in China

nowhere close to the current king, Mchose that has 1M+ sales across the entire Ace product line

[tawdry tree]

so with the profit of their budget boards, they sell products like the AG60 with a loss?

[tawdry tree]

that’s insane

[fallen pecan]

ye they can easlily offset the costs

oh and their A series mouse product line also sold 1M+ after a year

*mchose

[tawdry tree]

also a budget mouse?

[fallen pecan]

pretty cheap

[tawdry tree]

budget is king huh

I thought aula was kinda new

[fallen pecan]

yeah cheap gear pull massive numbers in china

[tawdry tree]

200K is pretty insane too

[fallen pecan]

the mchose a7 base model is $27, gpx2 clone

[tawdry tree]

what’s most insane to me is that production cost can be that low

with scale ofc but still

[fallen pecan]

it can go even lower if you dont mind cutting some features

$16 for the base model ace60 with no rgb

[tawdry tree]

they probably sell as well as they do because of their price to performance ratio

[tawdry tree]

ye that’s just

[fallen pecan]

yep the $16 board has 1k poll and 16k scan, even advertise 0.02mm stable

[tawdry tree]

you know if all those ultra cheap PCBs are by sparklink too?

[fallen pecan]

nope

sparklink commands a certain price floor

[tawdry tree]

interesting

[fallen pecan]

the manu will usually advertise if they use sparklink

[tawdry tree]

true lmao

sparklink kinda seems to have change the image of OEM = bad

for PCBs specifically

[fallen pecan]

yeah they've been testing really well so a lot of manus have started tapping them for the firmware

[tawdry tree]

in laobaozi’s tier list, a majority of the top 20 is sparklink iirc

I wonder if sparklink will offer firmware updates overtime

[fallen pecan]

don't believe so

[tawdry tree]

that’d be a first if so

[tawdry tree]

yeah..

still OEM afterall

[fallen pecan]

it'd be like a one and done thing unless they have to fix something

[tawdry tree]

I kinda wanna believe they did this deliberately “TTC Inside”

[chilly mural]

sparklink x wooting colab wen

that way we can have $50 wooting with wootility lite and none of other wooting stuff other than just their tweak

[tawdry tree]

Rongyuan (TMR solution provider) better!!

[tawdry tree]

not wrong lmao

and switch selector too

👀

[uneven cradle]

True because all that stuff Wooting does is free that's why the others offer it

[chilly mural]

I can't wait for accurate 0.1mm on my ti he

[tawdry tree]

careful what you wish for, we have 0.8mm already now

[left depot]

where did you find this

[chilly mural]

didn't see that they have wooting x ttc there at first, I thought the last box is just a random company

[tawdry tree]

TTC’s twitter

raquel on her way to sue TTC for using woot logo without permission

[chilly mural]

gotta call asus too

[fallen pecan]

That was at the Antgamer 7th anniversary event couple of days ago

[left depot]

nah Im just curious haha

[fallen pecan]

I believe thats where Ant announced their 750hz and 1khz TN (2026) monitors as well

[polar girder]

Ant?

[fallen pecan]

https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gaming-monitors/chinese-esports-firm-worked-with-amd-on-1-000-hz-gaming-monitor-primed-for-2026-debut

[manic hound]

TN panels are gross

[polar girder]

TN is goated

[polar girder]

Nice thanks

[chilly mural]

big step for man, small step for the programmed world

[tidal frigate]

It is useless because pcs cant put out those hz in counterstrike

[chilly mural]

what about people who still plays quake? or HL?

[manic hound]

lol 1,000 hz is worthless because I don’t even think a 5090 could realistically hit 1,000 fps constant

In cs2

Specifically because of how buggy / laggy the update from cs go made the game

[thorn oyster]

ah nice. quality. 🙂

[inner wren]

What type of screwdriver do i need for the wooting 60he module for only the module screws not the stabs

[stray tiger]

P1 works great

[quasi hinge]

Any future POMs from them?

[manic hound]

Yo random question, do you have the Frost case with Xray keycaps?

[tropic urchin]

I gotchu boss #1304051496454721576 message

[marsh saffron]

I remember seeing this build when I was fiending for my keycaps to start shipping

[tropic urchin]

Keyboard: cloud edition

[chilly mural]

GeyVoard Now

[manic hound]

Looks so sick

Ughhh do I get plastic for the effect of go with white zinc

[tropic urchin]

White zinc if you're going to have RGB off, Frost if you want the electric colors imo

since you're partner you could go loud

[manic hound]

I have been going back and forth on build ideas for a month now

I just can’t get it together

[tropic urchin]

I really like the silver GT80 over white zinc personally, but it would give you some buffer if you did change your keycaps in the future, but if you're 100% sold on xray then probably frost is your uniform look

RGB on or like 20-30% on would give you a cool look

but that also depends if you're an RGB person or not

[little glen]

Gt80

[tropic urchin]

i will say also black zinc + GMK Black and Gold would be a killer combo too even if it is a complete 180 from your current idea

[manic hound]

Hmm I need to see these keycaps

Sounds promising I like that tbh

[tropic urchin]

lemme find it

https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-black-gold

this lets you see the novelties too if you're into poker

Art deco also looks sick imo

[robust siren]

coinflip gamble it

[manic hound]

Those are pretty nice

[manic hound]

Nothing to coin flip, I just have so many ideas and can’t nail anything together

[robust siren]

heads for frost

[manic hound]

I’m a lunatic

[robust siren]

put everything into a wheel

a wheel for keycaps
wheel for case color + meterial
wheel for switches

[tropic urchin]

you're in good company then

[robust siren]

OR

just buy all of them

ezpz

problem solved

[tropic urchin]

Black Zinc + GMK black and gold I think would go under the radar for a professional setting over xray and frost case imo

[tropic urchin]

also a reason why I like silver GT80, no matter what build you want to do, it will be the most versatile

[manic hound]

Why are those keycaps $160

Upper echelon of cost

[manic hound]

I feel like you are right

I’m trying to match like the dark wood of my desk, and I feel like white doesn’t do that well

[tropic urchin]

GMK keycaps are on the more expensive end --> made in germany and it helps pay their wages and goes into other costs associated with the group buy process. Novelties is where they get you

[tropic urchin]

yeah it wouldn't. Do you have a picture of how dark the wood is by any chance

[dim hemlock]

GATERON Magnetic Orchid vs AKKO Flash Magnetic. Which one do I go for as my first mod for the 80HE zinc?

[tropic urchin]

https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com/previous you can try here to see if you see something that catches your eye @manic hound, might be something you can tailor to the brass/gold look over the specific wood color

Awekeys would be the only thing on my mind that could capture it, but metal keycaps will require heavier springs and will be like $300 for base too

[manic hound]

Yeah I’m not doing awe keys

[tropic urchin]

probably not viable to match the desk, but your options look to be Black Zinc + GMK B/G, Frost case + Xray, White Zinc + BOW keycaps (full white), or going Silver GT80 and then you get more customization for keycaps

If you're a one and done kinda guy id go for either full black or go frost X ray, if you want to do future builds 100% silver GT80

[manic hound]

Yeah I’m thinking the black might be a better move

My pc case is white and interior is white and black

With no rgb

[tropic urchin]

and your zinc will be anodized which is the better one

over ecoating

[manic hound]

Kind of like the gold key cap idea

Solid black key caps are kinda boring don’t ya think?

[tropic urchin]

Yeah, I agree which is why I’m glad I didn’t go black build bc I would’ve gotten all 4 options (base, space bar, both novelties)

Novelties are the most fun and biggest trap

Go big or go home type shii

[inner wren]

Do you know which screws to get to replace some of the ones i have if yes could u send me a link

[stray tiger]

For PCB to plate stand-off screws or PCB to case?

[inner wren]

Pcb to plate

[stray tiger]

M2-3

[mental salmon]

Hey @stray tiger just checking, are the Lekker Tikken still your favorites? Or in your top?

[stray tiger]

They are!

[little glen]

Considering nothing good has come out recently i would be surprised

Closest would be raptor v2 but they have issues

[trail bane]

Ngl this week is so tuff and boring

[mental salmon]

Thanks! Hope they release a 45g option along with the 55g

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt hold my breath but spring packs are cheap enough

[little glen]

I need cool new 60he compatible case to come out

Or 80he

I want pc/acrylic top and copper bottom

[tawdry tree]

The ‘new’ ones they announced are PC by the looks of it. :/

[cedar gate]

Also if you want to do a burger mount (popular mounting option to increase bounce and make a softer sound) you wanna use m2-6

[cedar gate]

HE or MX?

A TTC x ROG switch sounds pretty cool

[tawdry tree]

All are magnetic, even the ROG one.

[cedar gate]

Oh nice

Exited to see how those sound

[steady halo]

what issues?

i missed out a lot

[sacred elm]

Spring rubbing against the bottom housing

[steady halo]

ahh

because tight tolerance

right?

[sacred elm]

Probably

[steady halo]

i think it's hard to achieve a "99.99999% no wobble switch", with no issues

[trail bane]

100% is impossible

[steady halo]

now possible???

[trail bane]

Pey

[sacred elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1289520753238081629/1410669092880384051/IMG_2631.mov?ex=68bb15f8&is=68b9c478&hm=6fb3511dd2bc5a183b9e46575fb58b1931163d93fe44d212d47c7ef53e5c6671&

[little glen]

Spring crunch, i also have some that have some sort of ping/resonance

[steady halo]

haiyaaaa

disappointed

tikkens here i come

[tulip rapids]

raptor v2?

[tulip rapids]

"Welcome to the deep clack church"

[sacred elm]

Not all of them have this, it's very random.

E key in the video was ok, then it became crunchy randomly

[tulip rapids]

time to cope while i wait for tikkens

https://tenor.com/view/goku-songoku-regeneration-regenerationchamber-chamber-gif-15372599

[steady halo]

that's the reason

[tropic urchin]

@sacred elm well, if no 45g long spring on tikken it may be permanent Fluxies PP plate combo

[sacred elm]

[tropic urchin]

I need to find a hard material (inside case) to stop left shift from sinking since polyfill can’t do it 😭

[silk hound]

Brass

[tropic urchin]

Material inside case*

Basically a counteract to flex on PP

[trail bane]

Copper gang

[tropic urchin]

Now you’re just trolling

[trail bane]

Hell nah

[tropic urchin]

Hell yeah

[silk hound]

maybe something 3d print with durable material

[tropic urchin]

Mostly to stop this from happening

Might not be possible but it’s w/e

@sacred elm take your 55g having ahh outta here

[sacred elm]

55g good

[tropic urchin]

BC blate enjoyer response

[sacred elm]

pc plate flux

[silk hound]

https://geon.works/products/geon-key-snap maybe you can get this or similar rubber/material and cut them to size to prevent that

[tropic urchin]

and basically act as like a support beam?

[silk hound]

Yeah so it doesnt sink

[uneven rapids]

hello, did someone already break the pcb/plate of the 80he when trying to remove the switches? is it possible? I've used a lot of force trying to remove some switches and i'm afraid I broke/ might break something

[tropic urchin]

the PC plate is made of plastic so unlikely you broke that, PCB you should be able to see if any damage was done on it. However, the most likely outcome is you broke either the switch feet or the plastic clips of the switches (happened to me for owlabs and RAWs specifically)

[tawdry tree]

spring is just loose, it can literally move all over the place 😭

stem wobble is almost completely gone but now we got spring wobble that introduces spring crunch 🥰🥰

[tawdry tree]

like raptors, it’s a tradeoff between stability and friction

[sacred elm]

I can deal with slight friction but this spring crunch issue is just too much

[tawdry tree]

until we get full metal EDM switch

[tawdry tree]

spring crunch is worse for sure, and it’s random so technically all are affected

[sacred elm]

And it's not the spring issue, because happens with TTC springs too

[tawdry tree]

stem design probably

gateron’s have a ledge (not sure what to call it) so the spring can’t move outside of the stem

[uneven rapids]

ok no worries I guess then! thanks

[manic hound]

TMR sensor stuff is an interesting read

It’s funny to see how fast this stuff is iterating on itself

[little crater]

Gotta be a strong man to break it

[trail bane]

Gn

Eepy time

[tulip rapids]

gn

[winged tusk]

from these 6 he switches which one would you guys recommend (ik there are better options for the price but thats what i can get in my country )

[tawdry tree]

Focus are a Ti HE recolor basically, you could get those but not if they’re the most expensive

Moonlights would be good as well

[kind helm]

is there a cheaper better ti he?

[tawdry tree]

I don’t think better

but cheaper ye

[kind helm]

w-what about cheaper but same quality

[tawdry tree]

Herz is a bit cheaper

[kind helm]

honestly i feel like ti he is gud enough

[tawdry tree]

Blue Jade too iirc

[kind helm]

raptor is weird bro

[tawdry tree]

only thing raptors compete in is stability

but even that is kinda pointless imo

[kind helm]

yeee

[tawdry tree]

I like stable switches but not with all the issues raptors have

[kind helm]

i got it for the sound, but maybe i went a bit too much with the deep sounding thing

[tawdry tree]

get C1s

cheaper

(well maybe not for u)

😭

[kind helm]

[winged tusk]

the focus are 41 eur and moonlight 37

[tawdry tree]

then go with focus

[winged tusk]

alright ty

[tawdry tree]

actually

you like a deeper sound

or more higher pitched?

cause that’s what the focus switches are

just like Ti HEs

pretty loud

[winged tusk]

i like the owlab ti sound

[tawdry tree]

ah then those will be perfect 👍

[winged tusk]

aight

[winged tusk]

by any chance do u have a video reviewing them or with a sound test

[tawdry tree]

hmm

there was one but I can’t find it :/

[winged tusk]

ah thats ok

[warm gate]

what do you think is the best HE switch that wooting sells on there website. I mostly play games but I do enjoy a good sound/feel

[tidal frigate]

Currently?

It would be ttc poms

[tropic urchin]

Between Wooting x TTC POM collab and geon raw depending on your budget as of rn

With tikkens being the better buy when they release by end of year

[warm gate]

okay ill look into them

[sacred elm]

If the sound is your priority, don't buy POMs, get either Geon Raws now or wait for new Lekker Tikken switches.

[hot ledge]

The lekkers l60 sounds the same as the l45 right?

[tropic urchin]

Only thing that changes is the spring weight so it’ll affect feel more than sound

[hot ledge]

Alright thx

[gritty otter]

everyone here use buckling spring switches?

everyone today still use that type of keyboard?

[kind helm]

do you still buy stuff from canada nowadays?

trying to buy a simple cable and greeted by some huge warning signs...

[quasi hinge]

Ty sir

Guess im sticking with og poms for a while lol

[fluid ravine]

@tropic urchin @thorn zealot LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

got the last one

[thorn zealot]

Should’ve gotten the mystic 8s

Jk good pull

[fluid ravine]

lmao thanks

[tropic urchin]

no why

[tropic urchin]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[tropic urchin]

$23 you arent going to get robbed on

[fluid ravine]

yurrrr

now the question is

buy dac now and sell interface later

[tropic urchin]

its only over $100-150 you should be worried @kind helm

[fluid ravine]

or sell interface and wait then buy dac

[tropic urchin]

whats your risk tolerance

[fluid ravine]

mmmm

i have $200 in cash rn

and i would have to buy a gift card

[tropic urchin]

sell it first

[fluid ravine]

to be able to order anything on amazon

ok

reddit doesn't seem to be working for me rn

in terms of selling as soon as possible lol

i might ask my dad to help me sell on facebook market

[thorn zealot]

sell everythin and get this instead 🔥

and then pair it with another $10k dac

[fluid ravine]

shit cost more than me alone

gah damn

[thorn zealot]

are u up for auction

[fluid ravine]

👀

maybe

[tropic urchin]

Sell that good arm homie

[fluid ravine]

me using it during volleyball practice today

even though im not suppose to be playing

[tropic urchin]

Club szn Inc

[fluid ravine]

(assistant coach for girls vb team, sooooo im helping them out by hitting)

[tropic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/galen-gering-venice-spike-volleyball-boom-gif-13112555

[thorn zealot]

got folded faster than me playin silksong

[tropic urchin]

Bilkbong

[sweet oak]

Crunch

[polar girder]

lol is silksong sweet?

Seeing so much about it but no clue what it is lol

Other than the free weekend or something

[thorn zealot]

do u know what hollow knight is

[fluid ravine]

the hell you do

never seen 80he moved that much

[thorn zealot]

thats how much his soft pp moves

[tropic urchin]

PP plate and silicone will do that

[sweet oak]

📸

[tropic urchin]

Sorry I’ll mark it spoiler NSFW tag

[tropic urchin]

The middle had some flex but now it’s solid again with full silicone in but the left shift is very flexy idk how to fix it 😭

[glacial wind]

this is the curse that follows those who betray the church of the cf plate

[fluid ravine]

oh wait you cut the silicone pad didnt' you?

[polar girder]

No

Yeah I couldn’t do PP

Too much flex

[fluid ravine]

i mean it would make sense that the outer keys would be more flexy cus it' near the mounting areas.

[thorn zealot]

its a very popular indie metroidvania and their devs teased silksong like 7 years ago or some

so ppl have been horrendously down bad for silksong

[fluid ravine]

Even if the middle of the board doesn't have the silicone pad, it's still towards the center

[glacial wind]

not to be confused with dense knight, their prequel

[fluid ravine]

ok im lacking brain cells, i feel like i dont know what im talking about anymore

[thorn zealot]

i remember my old wooting where i had only 2 standoffs on my alu plate

and how it would flex so much in the middle when i press space

[fluid ravine]

😭

[polar girder]

Metroidvania?

[tropic urchin]

I did, I put it back in

[polar girder]

No clue what that means

[tropic urchin]

It was just alphas

[polar girder]

As someone who is clueless, should I play it? Lol

[tropic urchin]

PP flux is the only build I’m running now

80HE mr krabs build

[thorn zealot]

its just adventuring with platforming

ig

if ur impatient or hate bein loss in games then dont play em

[polar girder]

Alu POM gang rise up

[polar girder]

Gotcha. Thanks

[kind helm]

so below 150 we cool?

time to grab myself a new cable then

hehe

oh hell nah

what the fck is this shipping?

18 dolla shipping from canada to us for a fckin cable?

[stoic ocean]

Yo do you know good iem for gaming and listening music for a beginner like me i never buy iem

[chilly mural]

should ask in #🌐│pc_gear , but my personal recc would be 7Hz x Crinacle Zero:2

[marsh saffron]

Welcome to my pain

Shipping from the states to Canada ain't cheap 😭

[fluid ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/s/gUv6eb9TAe

[glacial wind]

oh freya is out, i guess i need to test them

[sacred elm]

Silent switch?

[glacial wind]

yeah geon's new silent switch

i sent him a message to ask about getting some sent, so should have some soon hopefully

[spice plover]

The BiS case is coming in monday

could stream the opening if u guys are bored

[languid kestrel]

ping me when you have opinions plox

[left depot]

'hello Im with Wooting, please gimme switch'

[glacial wind]

that is strangely close to our communications thus far, although i usually say please

[left depot]

I said that too ;)

[glossy pagoda]

Please sir, may I have another?

[fallen pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/tinytim-tim-poor-child-boy-gif-7331148

[atomic mulch]

Hey all, could I get some recs for 80HE custom cases? I'm looking to get a nice green case hopefully but not really sure where to start looking/what producers might be good/if they're even available 😅 Also any keycap recs would be appreciated 🙏

[glossy pagoda]

KBDfans has a really nice forest green case if I recall correctly

[sacred elm]

KBDfans GT-80

[glossy pagoda]

Damn Shafie gunna leave me hanging like that

[atomic mulch]

Oh damn that is nice

Tyty

I'm right in saying the 80HE has non-standard dimensions for the keyboard size right?

Or does 80% really have a standard

[glossy pagoda]

Yes, but that's because there isn't a standard

[atomic mulch]

yeeee I see

[glossy pagoda]

There's a "classical" TKL shape, which the 80HE isn't quite, but even that classical shape doesn't have any specific set of defined dimensions which could enable interoperability

[atomic mulch]

Gotcha, ty for the info 🙏

[glossy pagoda]

Sure thing

[young current]

https://ja.aliexpress.com/item/1005009118219588.html
what's the difference between this holy60 clone and the one from kbdfans?

im thinking of buying a tofu60 but i stumbled upon that one

[reef lava]

oh i was looking for some IEMs are these kinda the best rn? might just order the same

[chilly mural]

I'll wait for you to tell me how good it is

[stoic ocean]

@fluid ravine thx bro

this was helpfull

[north girder]

anyways my geon raptor v2s arrived today
their stabillity is crazy tight

[atomic mulch]

that the GT-80? Its a lot lighter than the pictures make it look

[little glen]

Lighting difference

[atomic mulch]

fairs

[little glen]

My gray one also looks silver when i take pictures with sunlight for example

#1342211699234832485 message

[tropic urchin]

Rule of thumb is whenever I buy anything internationally I times the price by 0.45-0.55 and see if I still want it or not

[tropic urchin]

$18 is standard imo

[uncut basin]

anyone here own ow60? i’m thinking of pulling the trigger but it doesn’t seem like there’s too many reviews online and i’d like to know what you guys think of it. i’ve been on tofu redux since it came out and i’ve been looking for an upgrade

[glacial wind]

mostly for aesthetics - I'd decide based on what you like looks wise

[tropic urchin]

#1375257019698909366 message this is @tawdry tree’s initial review of his unit, but he can also give you more recent thoughts on it as well

[glacial wind]

i honestly didn't use the flex vs stiff switch thing for more than 10 mins, so i don't really think it's super worth buying for that feature

buy more based on what you like the look of

[tawdry tree]

it is $420

you don’t buy it for that feature but it should work

[glacial wind]

yeah but it shouldn't be their deciding point on if they want the case or not

i think it doesn't do much even when working 100%

[little glen]

Yeah i‘m not buying it cause i dont like the look

[paper bison]

yewh it should work but that feature alone shouldn’t justify the price tag, you gotta like the look of it bc of how central it is to your desk

holy60 my beloved

[glacial wind]

yeah exactly

[polar girder]

lol why else buy it?

[glacial wind]

i assume if you buy an ow60 the biggest deciding point is do you want that aesthetic

[polar girder]

I don’t get that case hype at all honestly

[little glen]

I want to buy a new case for my keeb but i dont think its happening

[glacial wind]

it's because it's owlab design

you buy it for owlab design more than anything else

[glacial wind]

to give an example you may be more familiar with, it'd be like if there was a famous CS go knife design that was viral for a long time and you get a chance to buy v2 of it

[polar girder]

lol

[glacial wind]

people buy owlab because it's an owlab

they want that 'look' or name

[random dagger]

i caved in again, i bought the raptor v2s

[paper bison]

it’s no different to buying a prada bag instead of a primark bag, because you like the way the prada looks (and that the prada logo/design is “premium”)

[tawdry tree]

I think most people buying the OW60 don’t even know about Owlab

they just like the look

[paper bison]

That’s very true

[tawdry tree]

or they like woot

;)

[glacial wind]

probably half and half

there's their own viral group of owlab mech people

[paper bison]

First I heard about owlab was the original owlab60he case, then learning more i ended up buying the owlab ti he switches for my 80

[random dagger]

was worth waiting a month before buying them

[glacial wind]

for example there were people hunting for ow60 in korea recently, who had nothing to do with wooting or HE, they just wanted an ow60 case

[random dagger]

got 100 for 50€

[glacial wind]

i think if you live in HE world you don't realize the name brand value of owlab and how big as collector items they are outside of this world

which is fine, that's just how it works. It's like when you discover a new youtuber with 1 mil subs in some random topic you've never heard about

[ionic breach]

waiting angrily

[ionic breach]

owlab and kohaku for me

these 2 are so coveted and i cant care for either

[glacial wind]

i prefer owlab design in the jelly 75 or 80 version

[north girder]

yeah but in person in my room it looks lighter than what the website suggests idk if thats a anodizing variance or just badly portrayed

[glacial wind]

i think the alieny-tech design looks real nice on bigger keyboard

[uncut basin]

ok well lowkey i’m not liking that the half good part of his review is about the packaging and case and the rest is bad

they didn’t fix those issues w batch 2?

[tawdry tree]

we don’t know

[glacial wind]

aligner was among the folks who had issues with the slider, so he's definitely not a fan of the case

[tawdry tree]

woot said they told Owlab to check properly

but if they actually did and fixed the design, idk

[glacial wind]

the delay for batch 2 was because we stopped the shipment for batch 2 and requested checks on all the units

[tawdry tree]

I’m a fan of the case, just not the QC.

or lack there of

[uncut basin]

does the case not make much of an acoustic difference? honestly not looking to buy the case just for the looks

and i’m never gonna look at the back of the keyboard anyways

[tawdry tree]

not really compared to friction in other cases.

[glacial wind]

not really, there's some minor stuff but you can get same sound just modding your 60he or buying 60he v2 which has those mods

[tawdry tree]

the bounciness is unique though

[glacial wind]

if you're not buying specifically for the aesthetics i'd not really buy it

[little glen]

If you arent sure about it

Dont buy it and get something else

[glacial wind]

it's a lot of money to spend if you're not in love with the aesthetics

[uncut basin]

oh i’m not doing fruition rn

i thought i couldn’t do it with my setup i forget why

[little glen]

Gt-60, salvation, all the various wooting cases, frog mini leggera

There are lots of options out there

[tawdry tree]

you can in the tofu redux

[uncut basin]

i have the original arm one

[tawdry tree]

should be fine

[uncut basin]

i swear someone here told me i couldn’t

[glacial wind]

owlab does have a different foam and pet configuration + different plate

[tropic urchin]

GT60 would be sick

[ionic breach]

gt 60 is great

[glacial wind]

but for example if you take that money and buy a 60he v2 we included those mods there stock

[little glen]

I rlly want to get a gt60 😭

[ionic breach]

imo u should look at it if u would like it

[tropic urchin]

Big fan of GT80, so GT60 already 🔥

[tawdry tree]

liars among us

[little glen]

But then i dont have anything to put in the salvation

[north girder]

im actually kinda mad i fucked up my trackmania run at gamescom now i could have won a wooting 60he and since i have so many different switches now i could have easily done a modded keyboard

[glacial wind]

so i wouldn't really buy an owlab case just for that

[uncut basin]

ok they said i need conductive sponges or something

[glacial wind]

oh that's to do with static discharge things

[tawdry tree]

ah, you can buy those

[little glen]

Get gt60 and 60hev2 with split space

[tawdry tree]

or just use a screw

[little glen]

So you have to buy custom cut plate

[uncut basin]

i honestly didn’t see it online

[ionic breach]

istg that sno is the one that told u that before

[uncut basin]

i’m in japan

[ionic breach]

im going to check

[tawdry tree]

it’s not like it’s impossible or something

[tawdry tree]

they’re on aliexpress

[uncut basin]

oh word

[ionic breach]

oh its shf

[tawdry tree]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuRyXtY

[uncut basin]

thank you

[glacial wind]

for example if you got a 60he v2 and bought a 3rd party carbon fiber plate you basically have all the same mods as an owlab case right now

[uncut basin]

oh yea the friction fit would cost like 30 bucks to ship

[glacial wind]

which would cost you less than buying an owlab case. So i'd only get owlab if you love the design

[north girder]

how does a carbonfiber plate affect the keyboard?

[tawdry tree]

ye that kinda sucks

[uncut basin]

yeah fair enough

[glacial wind]

they wanted same sound as owlab

which uses cf plate

[north girder]

yeah but like how does it affect sound vs pc

[uncut basin]

hmm is the gt-60 an upgrade from tofu at all?

i have pc currently but i wouldn’t mind trying cf

[glacial wind]

oh, it makes it more muted and brings up some clack

[tawdry tree]

I’d say so, yeah

[ionic breach]

imo yes

[tawdry tree]

better mounting options

stock

[ionic breach]

but whatever look u prefer

[tropic urchin]

https://kbdfans.com/products/gt-60-case

[uncut basin]

how come

[ionic breach]

cos its gasket mounted

and if u dont like it

[tawdry tree]

everything but tray

[ionic breach]

theres also top mount

[steady halo]

top mount the best

for gt60

[little glen]

I rlly want to get a gt60 goddamn

[steady halo]

the gasket kinda mehh

[steady halo]

same

[little glen]

Why are they out of brass accent strips

[uncut basin]

how does this change anything

[little glen]

[steady halo]

but the black is kinda greyish

[north girder]

are there any carbon fiber plates for the 80he?

[glacial wind]

yeah, i'm using one now from aliexpress

[ionic breach]

a more rounded sound and softer

[uncut basin]

oh cool

[glacial wind]

cf is nice if you like clack, it's makes it pop more

[uncut basin]

wait currently mine is tray mounted right

[ionic breach]

ye

[tropic urchin]

Keyboard fun store on aliexpress

[glacial wind]

i mostly got cf because i like the stiffness though

[steady halo]

and the gt60 HE plate doesn't support venom 7u

[little glen]

Get a custom plate from hypekeyboards

[ionic breach]

@glacial wind which uhs II reader do u use?

[uncut basin]

okay and with gt-60 it would be gasket or top? what’s the difference between the two? also do you still do the friction fit thing?

[steady halo]

venom 60 rgb (planned to be released in october)

[north girder]

so i can buy without hesitation ?

[north girder]

i like stiffness too

[steady halo]

smart, but i'm asian and i have to pay double tax

i might buy it for my 60he v2

[little glen]

Wdym double tax

[steady halo]

but let's see

[tropic urchin]

You have to find the right one, but you want the one with PCB mounted stabs and not plate

[glacial wind]

i'm just using the one built into my macbook/mac studio lol

[little glen]

(Also you can get custom plates elsewhere)

[tawdry tree]

Get a custom CF plate from TB for $9

[ionic breach]

damn thats nuts

[steady halo]

tax for case, and tax for plate
(don't forget about dhl extra fee)

[north girder]

u have to pay an asian tax? what about u trick them by sending them white dna

[uncut basin]

also how’s optimum case compared to gt-60?

i fw the look with that but i think sound and feel is most important to me

[north girder]

ok u aint got a link right ?

[glacial wind]

i'm coming to help boost your local sony lens economy soon though drakon. I need to pick up a 16mm f1.8 when i'm in singapore since it's $100 cheaper than everywhere else

[tawdry tree]

you could also get the AG60 for $120 (full keyboard) and just use it’s case with your woot.

[steady halo]

i might if someone has the file for 7u HE...
i haven't found any, but i saw a build with it

[paper bison]

waiting for the ali express clone of the holy80

[tropic urchin]

Not on mobile no

@sacred elm do you have the link handy by any chance for CF plate

[steady halo]

chinese clone ah moments

[ionic breach]

power rangers keyboard

[tawdry tree]

ow60 for 420 or ag60 for 120

😭

[sacred elm]

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008042712779.html

[glacial wind]

that guy with the keyboard house would never pick ag60

[tropic urchin]

@north girder

[glacial wind]

can't store in his million dollar collection case

where's that photo of that vendors building with the wall to wall keyboard collection

[tawdry tree]

case doesn’t look bad

[north girder]

do u think they have iso?

[tawdry tree]

the badge should be removed tho 💀

[glacial wind]

oh no you're screwed

[sacred elm]

only FR4

I might be wrong

[glacial wind]

iso is super hard to find unless you get a custom one commissioned

[little glen]

I got a custom iso plate

[tropic urchin]

RIP iso moment

[north girder]

yes

[little glen]

I can recommend the custom plate but the service probably makes more sense for someone with a more complex order like that one geon case

[ionic breach]

https://torontokeyboardman.ca/collections/upgrade-yourwooting80he

[glacial wind]

i am curious how much mr toronto man makes reselling the kits

[ionic breach]

a fking lot it seems

[glacial wind]

there's a certain subset of people who hate to use aliexpress and he gets all of them

[ionic breach]

their catalog expanded a lot

[uncut basin]

wait how do i get the gt-60 without the wood?

[tropic urchin]

And I also hate to use them 🤣

[uncut basin]

i don’t like the wood which is why i’ve kinda dismissed it but i’m watching a video and there’s no wood

[ionic breach]

get the brass one ig

[glacial wind]

yeah but that's cause of your glorious leader lol

[tropic urchin]

Just get the one without wood should be an option

[tawdry tree]

it’s swappable

[north girder]

they dont even ship to Germany lol

[tropic urchin]

No, I didn’t like their Alu plate

Trump has nothing to do with that

[uncut basin]

oh perfect

[glacial wind]

aliexpress? It's the same one toronto man sells

[tropic urchin]

Never got alu from aliexpress, only TKBM since they were the only sellers for a minute

[little glen]

Toronto man keyboard

[ionic breach]

if u want to replace them

[tropic urchin]

And had to wait forever for it to stick and had to pay like $60 bc it came with their shitty ass foam

[glacial wind]

yeah he just resells the ones off aliexpress/taobao

[tropic urchin]

So on top of all of that, it didn’t feel/sound accordingly

[little glen]

Why is brass sold out

[tropic urchin]

So I hated it

[uncut basin]

thank you

[glacial wind]

you might have got unlucky too. There were some reports of cf plates being bad cuts too, but mine were fine

[uncut basin]

is the silicone gasket for 5 dollars the friction fit thing?

[tropic urchin]

I should’ve listened to thockfather and got one from Tom from the start

[uncut basin]

i’ll be buying this when i get home for sure. thank you guys

[glacial wind]

but yeah toronto man is just buying off same place so if you get a bad experience there you have the same risk as aliexpress

[uncut basin]

but do i need to buy the friction thing too?

[north girder]

tom?

[tawdry tree]

not compatible

so no

[uncut basin]

oh amazing

[glacial wind]

wait what is lunar buying and why though

[ionic breach]

nah

it has its own mounting system

[uncut basin]

is it the silicone gasket thing

[glacial wind]

if you want the owlab sound you don't have to change the case at all btw

[tawdry tree]

actually it might be compatible but you already have gasket and top mount so there’s no need.

[uncut basin]

gt-60 probably. i’m looking for an upgrade from this tofu

[glacial wind]

okay yeah, just get the case you like the look of then

[uncut basin]

i’ve already dumped money into this thing by getting every new switch that comes out so i’ve been thinking of upgrading the case too

[glacial wind]

sound wise there's not really much gains though, so just be aware of that

[tropic urchin]

https://hypekeyboards.ca/products/custom-plate-cutting-service he cuts custom plates from Canada

[uncut basin]

even feel?

[glacial wind]

nothing that you couldn't get similar in your current case no

[tawdry tree]

hmm, I’d get it

[glacial wind]

you're mostly upgrading case for aesthetics usually, which is fine, but just be aware it's not a sound upgrade thing

[uncut basin]

oh what

[trail bane]

Already

[uncut basin]

wait what about the holy60 then? i like the look of it but i heard it fries the sound

[glacial wind]

yeah holy60 will make sound worse lol

[uncut basin]

which i mean makes sense considering it’s a ton of holes

ah okay

[tawdry tree]

he’s not using friction rn

so there will be

quite a drastic change I’d say

[glacial wind]

yeah, but what i'm saying is he can just swap to friction in current case too

[sacred elm]

Optimum

[uncut basin]

i’m doing like burger mount or something

[uncut basin]

oh what really

[tawdry tree]

high shipping cost but yeah

[glacial wind]

he thinks right now that case means big sound difference, but none of the sound things is to do with case

you guys are confusing him a bit

[tawdry tree]

he knows

[glacial wind]

he knows after i explained it yes lol

[uncut basin]

i was under the impression that cases make a big difference in sound but yeah you guys cleared it up for me

[tawdry tree]

gasket and top mount do sound different compared to friction though

[glacial wind]

please, can we not confuse him more

[tawdry tree]

do you have the tofu wirh weight rn?

[uncut basin]

yes

ok so my options are to buy the friction fit thing + the foam and use my current case or buy the gt-60 and nothing else

[tawdry tree]

which foam?

[glacial wind]

basically it's mounting difference mostly, so anything that changes your mounting from tray will give you a different sound

[trail bane]

But it looks like shi https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvOj50e

[glacial wind]

then plate you can also change depending on the case

[uncut basin]

the conductive one

[tawdry tree]

ah, yeah

[uncut basin]

where can i find a sound test or information on these differences?

[glacial wind]

it's tricky because it's not really 1 difference in most videos