🌐│pc_gear

[frigid ivy]

Also rgb version

[hoary kestrel]

Thanks that works out

[obtuse dove]

Even then HD600 can be driven out of slightly more beefier dongle dacs like the Crinear Protocol Max.

[agile cloud]

Does any one have a Beyerdynamic headphone? I have a question

[lament siren]

no mine is in the trash

[quasi field]

I owned one

Two actually

[agile cloud]

Okey see dm

[crude talon]

very secret question lol

[uncut pumice]

W keycap order not qwerty

[round lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3WKbEwoYo

[quasi field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/s/2Ifj9JTBSg

Good news. 5k 240 Hz soon maybe

[mental spade]

yo

[uncut pumice]

WE need this

[deep hawk]

Obligatory FPS

[round lagoon]

120hz is all you need

[patent patrol]

too much ragebaiting here

[normal saddle]

I can live in the terminal with 10hz

[vital gorge]

90hz is fine for me.

[elfin kayak]

Mchose finally off the realtek train

[deep hawk]

sees 4 images that discord doesn't load
gets Mr. Beast scam ptsd

[elfin kayak]

[vague sparrow]

I am team 120

[patent patrol]

I am team "i want more then we got rn"

[fringe yacht]

pfft, 120hz is more than enough, actually limited my screen to just that instead of running it at the 165hz it would support, since there's simply no point 😅

[patent patrol]

for comp fps is very visible

[fringe yacht]

lmao nope

[patent patrol]

mb eye can only see 120fps

[hazy fiber]

23

[round lagoon]

• 1 frame to make it cinematic

[deep hawk]

Jumping spiders can perceive depth using only one of their eight eyes, because they have four layers of retinas that are positioned precisely where the chromatic aberration splits colors from light through refraction

[round lagoon]

So you're saying we need cybernetics implant

[winged pewter]

You trolling right

120 is enough, sure thats an opinion, not seeing the difference above 120 is bad eyesight

[lament siren]

send this information to dashi with a spider gif

[warm rain]

I like nice numbers 😅so I set my refresh rate to 100 cause its nice number😅😅😅

[round lagoon]

I'm just wishing 1khz is enough to emulate crt cause I want dat 2000's rhythm game arcade feel without a big thick monitor

[lament siren]

dont be rash dashi

[warm rain]

even at a gajillion hz crt still fundamentally renders images differently
so 1khz would be super clear but still not like crt I think

[winged pewter]

Certainly a choice

[round lagoon]

I see, but at least we're getting closer.

[winged pewter]

Is the astro gen 5 for 210 euro worth it

[fringe yacht]

seems like someone is hallucinating and might wanna stop taking weird stuffs

[winged pewter]

I think you’re alone on that hill ngl, maybe with steam forum users saying humans can max see 60 hz

[deep hawk]

I feel attacked

In related news, I've got new glasses coming in next week!

[winged pewter]

Buy glasses in asia

[warm rain]

what is the refresh rate on those

[winged pewter]

At least 3

[deep hawk]

Infinite

Damn CPU sucks though

[warm rain]

I would set it to 6 or 7

[fringe yacht]

effectively speaking you can only "see" about 30-60fps, getting a feel of improvement above that point sure is normal as well, especially on larger screens and higher res, but overall once you hit 120 and still demanding more is just ridiculous cope

[obtuse dove]

If only crts weren't 60Hz

[winged pewter]

Didnt know i was on the steam forums here

[hazy fiber]

[winged pewter]

Guys is my pc good enough for wootgame? I have i3 3300 mhz and gtx 1040 ti

[fringe yacht]

nothing to do with steam forums or anything and like i said, it's not like you wouldn't get a feel of improvement past 60, heck, might even feel a lil more past 120, but it's simply so marginal that demanding that is outright hilarious

[obtuse dove]

Why not a GT910?

[warm rain]

I think I saw in some video a guy talking how crts can shine with modern pcs with higher fps, so I think some are above 60hz? or they might even work differently in general

[obtuse dove]

Orrrr, GT1010

[abstract warren]

We even got steam forums comedy hour damn we lucky this morning

[warm rain]

iirc the guy was playing in at least 100 fps

[winged pewter]

Uhm cuz thats slower my numbers are higher

Is wooting woke?

[obtuse dove]

Fair, but the big issue with crt is color accuracy, energy efficiency, and lack of brightness.

[warm rain]

sounds almost like OLEDs
though they are improving every 1-2 years in those aspects

[obtuse dove]

Or just any display technology

I remembered when IPS displays had the smeary look to them

[lament siren]

damn even debilka got bigger balls than you do

[warm rain]

probably, I'm just going off of OLED reviews cause I'm getting one soon and I always saw OLEDs being way less bright in terms of numbers

though perceptively they are probably still very good due to that contrast

[obtuse dove]

The newer tandem OLEDs can get really bright

specifically Tandem WOLED and Tandem AMOLED

[warm rain]

yea the 27 inch 1440p ones that are already out are crazy good in a lot of aspects
too bad I'd have to wait for a long time for 32 inch 4k ones, so I will settle for a 3rd gen WOLED

[fringe yacht]

wtf are you talking about?

[versed fossil]

it will be weird switching from 34" to 27"

i'd want 32" but its 4k only and i dont want 4k, too much performance sacrifice

[obtuse dove]

I have a 3rd gen WOLED in 4K 32 in

[lament siren]

we all have that same question with your monitor take

[obtuse dove]

Iirc it's an Asus monitor but uses an LG panel

[warm rain]

totally fair

I want a bigger size on a monitor arm so I can adjust it based on the game I'm playing, so I could have a more immersive experience

I slightly upgraded the gpu but the fps hit is gonna be big

[versed fossil]

i will have a 9070xt which can handle 4k but eh

[obtuse dove]

Well 4K*

[warm rain]

is it a glossy one or matte

[obtuse dove]

*with FSR 4.1

[obtuse dove]

Matte, glossy doesn't work in my specific situation

[versed fossil]

lg usually makes matte panels i think

[obtuse dove]

They recently made glossy 3rd gen WOLED panels

[versed fossil]

nice

i will want WOLED bc i dont play in the dark

[warm rain]

there is a rare one from LG with 3rd gen WOLED panel that uses glossy, but is a bit cheaper due to 165hz refresh rate

Asus use this coating too on their glossy variants

LG 32GX850A

[versed fossil]

oo

i like lgs monitors theyre very clean

[obtuse dove]

Yeah, ultragear is good

[warm rain]

real, I could go for 240hz Asus to try and squeeze some of frame gen frames on that panel but tbh I hate the chin that they got

[obtuse dove]

Ultrafine is also really good if you don't need any of the gaming features

[warm rain]

LG is so nice looking compared to that

[versed fossil]

LG 27GX790B-B

i think this is just the asus monitor

but matte

[warm rain]

kinda yeah, the Gigabyte Tandem OLED looks similar too

[abstract warren]

Didn’t the CRT monitor tell you all you need is 30hz unc

[warm rain]

Gigabyte MO27Q28G

[warm rain]

movies are 24 fps anyway so I lock to 24hz

[obtuse dove]

😭

[abstract warren]

Do you also watch movies at 10% brightness like cocytus

[warm rain]

my E-Ink monitor aint got a brightness slider...

[abstract warren]

It’s even worse than I thought

It’s 0%

[versed fossil]

theres too much monitors to choose from

[obtuse dove]

Funny because most theater projectors once the image is thrown onto the screen is right around 75 nits

[warm rain]

that is insane considering human eye cant see past 30 nits

[bitter sapphire]

Ah yes

[obtuse dove]

If the human eye can't see past 30 nits then the indirect light from the sun would flashbang us all the time

[warm rain]

ultimate HDR experience

[obtuse dove]

The ultimate HDR experience is to touch grass yes

[abstract warren]

What if you have blue eyes tho

[bitter sapphire]

[warm rain]

thanks to people working in the display industry the grass is more real on the screen with every new generation

[quasi field]

It's not. Keep in mind that the 1 000 Hz thing is an arbitrary number

[quasi field]

Yes imo

[quasi field]

I was running mine at 160 Hz

[lament siren]

i can

[quasi field]

120 Hz is blurry on most speeds above slow

[lament siren]

two two cro

[warm rain]

whats next youre gonna tell me you're a super saiyan?

[lament siren]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-vegeta-gohan-piccolo-dragon-ball-z-gif-22223373

how does bro know

[quasi field]

Breaking news: another wobbly Hifiman that performs almost identically to all their other ones was just announced

[round lagoon]

If you flip the color I still wouldn't be able to see the improvement

[quasi field]

It's a little bit smoother in the treble I guess. Less bass though

[quasi field]

I love my A50 but I keep hitting volume limits (it makes a noise when the volume is all the way to the top) with the EQ setting I have which is making me considering getting the DX1 II and a wired headphone for use when I'm not VCing so I can play EQed music loudly but I'm not sure I would regret this or not

[winged pewter]

Hmm think ill pass on it, currently have a headset with ANC apparently the astros don t have that

[obtuse dove]

Don't you already have a good DAC?

[quasi field]

No

[obtuse dove]

Oh, hmm

Yeah the DX1 2 will probably be your best bet

[quasi field]

I'd mostly want it because of the PEQ it has

[obtuse dove]

Fair

[quasi field]

If I were to save up for a wired headphone I'd probably do the D1 since it has good performance and much lower distortion than average for transducer technology

Also very good channel matching and low variation between heads

Pretty good

And yes I reach 115 dB unironically so it's relevant

[frigid ivy]

Luckily the D1 can be powered with farts

Need like 100 mW @ 32 ohms to get 120 db

[quasi field]

Yes the DX1 is overkill power wise

But I'd want a physical volume knob as well as PEQ on the device itself and it has all that

Does it have loudness equaliser? I assume not

At least EqualiserAPO can do that

[frigid ivy]

Jds element 4 has a nice EQ app, too bad it's so expensive

[quasi field]

That would be my go-to but it costs more than the D1

[frigid ivy]

Lmao wtf

D1 is 799 usd and the JDS is 549 usd in the US

Is that like import fee?

[quasi field]

There's apparently an RME ADI-2 successor coming soon and I assume it will also be very good and feature rich but it will also potentially be more expensive than the Element

[quasi field]

Yes

[frigid ivy]

💸

[quasi field]

25% vat and other nonsense

I think I would save money by ordering it from America actually

[frigid ivy]

Seems like topping is the lowest barrier to entry for a knob+peq dac amp

[frigid ivy]

Schiit eq platform it's trash

[frigid ivy]

25% 😭

[quasi field]

Do they not have digital EQ yet? Are they still doing analogue EQ? Because analogue EQ sux

[frigid ivy]

That have digital but it's only 3 bands lmao

[quasi field]

I wonder why that is. I have no idea how you develop these things. If you can make 3 bands then wouldn't it be very easy to make it also support 20?

[frigid ivy]

Yeah not sure

[quasi field]

The RME only had 7

That's why Oratory occasionally makes specific EQ presets for the RME

[frigid ivy]

There's also the bigger fiio dac amp

K15/k17

[quasi field]

Oh yeah. They are cool but too big. Also similarly priced to the Element

Well the K15 that is. K17 is much more

[crude talon]

https://fixupx.com/jakeufps/status/2060061486941155475

jakeu+ (@jakeufps)

ATK A9 Mini+ might take the new record for most misleading weight advertisement

**💬 16 🔁 8 ❤️ 258 👁️ 16.4K **

FixupX · May 28, 2026, 6:11 PM

[rich condor]

An extra 7.6 grams might not seem like much, but that's nearly 20% extra weight.

[fringe yacht]

tbh, that's not "misleading advertisement" that's simply false advertisement/fraud

even considering industry deviations norms which usually are below 5% that's way to far outside that to justify it^^

[astral musk]

That's not below 5% though ...

That's almost twenty percent at this point.

(oh I misread it. Sounded like you were defending it )

[fringe yacht]

was about to say xD

my english might not be perfect, but i'm fairly sure i didn't mess up enough for it to read like i'd defend fraud like that^^

[ivory tiger]

<@&1098943457654997093> missed spam

[midnight canopy]

trying to buy a new mouse, potentially wireless, budget up to 200-300cad, anyone got ideas

im pretty unfamiliar with mice that arent logitech and dont know what people use / what is popular or liked

[wheat epoch]

To be fair it does say +-3g on the product page so really its a 4.6g difference (if his scale is correct that is)

[wheat epoch]

Idk if it's counted with or without feet

Could be that the weight listed is only with dot feet

[fringe yacht]

honestly, if it's labeled with a certain weight then it has to be that when shipped out, no matter if they offer different feet or something, heck, if they had different feet options they'd have to set the weight for each one individually if there was deviations because of it

[obtuse dove]

someone de-throned finalmeme it seems

[wispy blaze]

Beastx or beastg 💪

Lamzu, op18k, gwolves, pulsar

Can check deskhero and see whats available, free shipping across canada i think

[terse ferry]

G502 best shape ever made

[wispy blaze]

Nobody cares

[terse ferry]

Thumb rest is great

[wispy blaze]

Unfortunately I lost the gif shafie made for you

[terse ferry]

Skill issue. Search function exist on discord

[wispy blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292258539229679658/1431027190195290313/IMG_2403.gif

[terse ferry]

Recommend searching from: shafie mention: Jakubix filetype: gif

[wispy blaze]

I didnt do it because I dont care 😭

Reddit mod headass

[terse ferry]

Well you wanted react with my beloved gif

[gaunt flax]

i didn't even know there were kovaaks achievements

[terse ferry]

It is achivement for launching kovaaks

[elfin kayak]

Beast G max for $56 not bad

[white river]

what do you guys think of the Swiftpoint Z3? or even the Z2.

[proud quartz]

i had the z2 it was lowkey terrible random shit kept breaking after a avarage of 1-2 months

[rustic mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[glossy anvil]

Shape too big

I dont have small hands

But its pretty big

[tacit linden]

Too long and too narrow at the same time.

[glossy anvil]

Yeah the length is something i cant reach

[vague sparrow]

razer naga > all

[quasi field]

@obtuse dove @round lagoon I think I'm hearing distortion in the bass with my Astro now when playing hardstyle loudly
It sounds just a little bit «crunchy». I'm going back between it and my Airpods Max which are distortion-free by comparison and I don't hear it on those

This is with REALLY bass-tilted music though

[round lagoon]

Time to get a new headphones just for music

[quasi field]

If I want no audible distortion I'd go for the D1 then since it performs fairly well in that

Astro actually has pretty good distortion performance. But clearly I am pushing it to its limits

HD800S is particularly high actually. I wouldn't like that for this kind of music

It's stupid that Rtings don't measure above 104 dBSPL

Okay this is somehow even bassier than the hardstyle I have

This is the song if you want to hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5OfRMr3SQ

Though running out of volume is worse than small amounts of distortion

[round lagoon]

I didn't realized how close APP3 is to jm1

it just seems to be lacking midbass

[obtuse dove]

Rip

[quasi field]

Ikr. At least it's only with the bassiest music I know and with the PEQdB preset at that

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-essex-gif-9700368484468127277

[obtuse dove]

Hmm, I guess one sure way to know is to play Doin it Right by daft punk

[quasi field]

Will it be bassier than this?

[obtuse dove]

The bass will be lower but idk about louder

[patent patrol]

what is that pfp

[obtuse dove]

Me or them?

[patent patrol]

soria

[obtuse dove]

Oh lmao

I guess mine are usually somewhat normal

[round lagoon]

yesh

also the style is pretty recognizable

[obtuse dove]

Lolz, I don't draw my own pfps, they're all commissioned works

I can't draw to save my life

[round lagoon]

Mine I stole lmao

[obtuse dove]

smh why you stealing

/j

[ivory tiger]

Stealing pictures is da way

Cannot make my own

[round lagoon]

I want to commission one someday

but all money on VR and other hobbies lmao

[ivory tiger]

Yours are usually recognized by birb

[obtuse dove]

Fair, lmao, although I think I have way too many artworks of said birb

[frigid ivy]

mine is just album art

[quasi field]

I now have the fourth edition of Floyd Toole's «Sound Reproduction - The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers»
Highly recommend this book for anyone serious about sound quality

It has a section on headphones too btw

[obtuse dove]

4th ed right?

[quasi field]

Yes

I can send you a pdf if you want

[round lagoon]

hmm, kinda nice to see straight treble being the general human preference

[obtuse dove]

nah I found it on AA lmao

its fine

[quasi field]

That's also where I got it from

I own the third edition physically

But they are so expensive

[obtuse dove]

yeah above like 4K the individual differences become very large due to the different shapes of our ears.

[quasi field]

I wonder how much of bass preference in humans for headphones actually comes down to difference in leakage

Actually I think I asked this on ASR two years ago or something

[obtuse dove]

yeah anatomical differences play a huge role

also age

higher frequencies are harder to hear simply because you are older

children are actually extra sensitive to treble frequenceis than someone in their 20s

[quasi field]

I think the $4000 headphone here was the Focal Utopia or something if I remember correctly

This is old news by now but a big win for Harman nonetheless

[round lagoon]

hmm, 64

[quasi field]

Truke

[quasi field]

It's mostly the bass that differs. So it's more that «everyone preferred the Harman target but with varying levels of bass compared to most headphones tested»

[round lagoon]

Correct on the bass at least.

[obtuse dove]

maybe the bass slider on the skullcandy crushers isnt a bad idea after all

[quasi field]

It's good yeah assuming it lets you attenuate below baseline lmao

I think even on default it has very high amounts of basss

[round lagoon]

maybe my preference deviate too much lmao

on blind test I might like it, but it'll still feel weird

[quasi field]

Too much energy here seems to be a common sign of a headphone that won't be preferred in listening tests

[obtuse dove]

not necessarily referring to the headphones themselves but the idea of having a bass slider though.

[quasi field]

FiiO FT1 kind of has that

[obtuse dove]

kinda like how some desktop DAC/AMPS have a bass and treble knob.

[quasi field]

Having a way to adjust sound should be the standard ideally

I wish Apple would make an EQ for their OS already

[obtuse dove]

technically exists in settings but only for apple music :(

[quasi field]

Apple Music is actually what I use when I have an iPhone. But only as a local file player

Is it PEQ or a graphic one

[obtuse dove]

presets :(

[quasi field]

What kind? Only for Apple headphones I assume

[obtuse dove]

settings > search 'EQ', and you will see all the presets apple gives you, and its not exclusive to apple headphones.

[quasi field]

PEQdB moment

[obtuse dove]

yeah I noticed that too.

its actually surprisingly similar

we musn't show this to sharur, bro will glaze it

unless bro lurks here, which I highly doubt

[quasi field]

He has probably looked at the book already

[obtuse dove]

oh 100%

[quasi field]

But I know he has mentioned the Knowles target before

[obtuse dove]

yeah

all 3 are basically the same up until >5kHz

[round lagoon]

he gonna glaze himself

https://klipy.com/gifs/donuts-5

[obtuse dove]

average stanford grad student

[quasi field]

Preference between 300 Hz and 2 kHz is so similar between people

What is remarkable is that when the curves are normalized
at 500 Hz, the preference tolerance are quite narrow between 300 Hz to 2 kHz,
the most important range for speech and music. The bass and treble regions are
still quite narrow, ±2 dB below 125 Hz, and above 8 kHz with the broadest tol
erances ±3.5 dB falling between 3 and 5 kHz.

[round lagoon]

mean top rated is quite close to what I like

[vague sparrow]

How is this top rated curve called?

I mean it has a special name?

[quasi field]

It's multiple

They were doing listenings tests and comparing 32 of them

[vague sparrow]

Between 600 and like 1200 Hz the error bar is so low

Wtf everybody like the same thing in these frequencies

[frigid ivy]

https://mangadex.org/title/ef04c9f8-9b50-4b24-88a4-d00d1623ccc0/mimiyori-harmonia?tab=chapters

[round lagoon]

cause it's natural

[frigid ivy]

classic

[quasi field]

Another diffuse field L

[round lagoon]

lmao

[quasi field]

Many of those by now

[frigid ivy]

10db tilted DF is another story though

[quasi field]

Yeah though that's significantly different in the end

[vague sparrow]

In the future you will go on internet

They will make you listen to song

[quasi field]

Hey I've heard this one

[vague sparrow]

You will say if you like one or another

Several time for each frequency

And they will design the iem for you

[frigid ivy]

denon got the BLAM

[obtuse dove]

isnt JM1 a type of DF target?

[white jackal]

you can tell the artist is a headphone pervert

[quasi field]

It's something similar to a tilted DF target afaik. I don't remember

Well JM-1 with a tilt at least

There are so many targets it's hard to keep up

[frigid ivy]

In ear and Over ear target is way diff

[obtuse dove]

yeah no wonder it doesnt sound good to me, because other people in controlled listening tests also agree with me LMAO

[round lagoon]

Hmm, no complete translate here. Maybe I can get the raw scans and just read the japanese

[quasi field]

JM-1 scores mediocrely at PEQdB but I'm not aware of any more «reputable» tests with it

[frigid ivy]

yeah no new scans in 6 years

shame

[quasi field]

JM-1 is not named in the book (no CTRL + F results) unless it goes by another name

Oh there is a section on the Headphone show guys though

[round lagoon]

https://comix.to/title/0yj3l-harmony-from-the-ears This one seems complete translation

[obtuse dove]

what page?

[frigid ivy]

oooo

[quasi field]

515-516

[proud quartz]

any iem recomendations for like 125 euros max if i may ask

[vague sparrow]

For me the aful explorer

I love it

[proud quartz]

ill note that down i was considering the oriveti bleqk dynabird's cause ive heard a great bit about them aswell

[vague sparrow]

I dont know these ones cannot comment

[round lagoon]

what do you like/dislike about them?

[proud quartz]

i dont have them rn i have a cheap pair thats like dying

[round lagoon]

iem or earbud?

[proud quartz]

iems

[round lagoon]

what iem?

[proud quartz]

moondrop chu 2's

and i have money to like upgrade a good decent bit

[round lagoon]

what do you like/dislike about them?

[proud quartz]

i just like the overall feel and theres like almost no vocals from music idk how to explain it it just feels a little lacking

like theyre not bad but i do think it could be better

[round lagoon]

You can try tangzu waner. 1 or 2 doesn't matter since their treble is less than chu 2

it's about $20

[proud quartz]

ooh okay

any others i could look out for i really dont mind splurging more allegedly more money means better according to sources (reddit)

[round lagoon]

more money doesn't equal better

[proud quartz]

reddit would never lie

[round lagoon]

Other wise, nothing much, other than the more forward vocal and less treble, chu 2 and wan er are very much similar

until you have a better idea of what you want, I suggest saving money

[proud quartz]

oki doki ty for the advice

[obtuse dove]

Yeah, honestly the Chu 2 isn't a horrible IEM to EQ with, I'd say play around with an EQ until you get something you like, get acclimated to it, then reassess. And see how your EQ compares to what's available on the market.

[proud quartz]

Its more that they're bassically dead atp the left one keeps lowkey dying

[obtuse dove]

There is generally some guide as to what most people prefer, they are a really good starting point, but refine it from there, everyone hears stuff differently, especially the bass and treble frequencies since data shows that those have the highest amount of variance between people.

[obtuse dove]

If you want a good platform to EQ off of but not being extremely expensive, the kiwi ears cadenza is pretty smooth as well as the Tanchjim Tanya DSP. They aren't the smoothest IEMs out there but for the price they are decently smooth and good enough to use to EQ.

[blissful gust]

I love my moondrop space travel 2

Very easy to eq with

[crude talon]

weeb earbuds

[gray shuttle]

They're so good tho

I love moondrop

[ancient mantle]

Main good thing about the chu2 for me is the size, well wish the nozzle was not thickened by that screw on cap at times though. Lot of other iem's are just so bulky

[burnt mirage]

I couldn’t find literally ANY good recommendations online, but since recently starting corporate life, I’ve been using a laptop that has ONLY USB C ports, are there any recommendations you have for a more premium, non shitty feeling mouse that either has a male usb c cable to connect directly without using an adapter, OR, is able to connect to a dell xps 16 without a dongle at all?

[crude talon]

any bluetooth mouse

[tacit linden]

There are bluetooth supported mice so you don't need a dongle but it's not something I would recommend for gaming

Logitech MX Master is a popular one

[burnt mirage]

Awesome! Is that the highest build quality you think I’ll find? I’m not gonna be doing any competitive gaming, I have a different setup for that, but actually am tweaking out with the shitter feeling normal office mice

[crude talon]

If heavy feels premium to you it’s probably good
My wrist hurts after less than an hour using mx mice

[tacit linden]

If it's objectively the best best quality and mice I can't tell you as I haven't used many different office mice but it does feel premium, I don't really use one anymore but I used to use the old Master 2S.

It feels good in the hand, the scroll wheel feel is excellent.

[tacit linden]

Yeah it is quite heavy, I wouldn't use it for gaming.

[crude talon]

I wouldn’t use it for anything where I need to use a mouse more than minimally, but I know a lot of people like them

[burnt mirage]

Yea, my normal mice are like 30-48 grams ☠️ but they don’t feel like the CHEAP plastic of normal office mice and the buttons

[tacit linden]

The MX Master 3S is 141g

[gray shuttle]

Could get a like

Pulsar

[burnt mirage]

Fuck me 😭

[gray shuttle]

They have detachable cables and is wireless

[crude talon]

If you have a lot of mousing in your workflow it might be a bit much but if it’s mostly keyboard it might be fine

[gray shuttle]

So you can still pick an usb c to usb c cable if you wish

[crude talon]

I think they wanna avoid a dongle

[tacit linden]

Can you use the Pulsar ones without a dongle?

[gray shuttle]

Only cuz usba, no?

Did I misunderstand?

[gray shuttle]

Yes, if you have a cable

[tacit linden]

I mean, I guess 😄

[burnt mirage]

I have no USB A slots, and would either use a USB C male input or completely wireless, I don’t want to hastle with dongles or ugly af adapters 🙏

[crude talon]

Well you can just put a regular dongle on a cable if that cable ends in a usb a port

[gray shuttle]

And it's only like....24 grams too

But

There might be bluetooth ones

I use those angled upwards usc c male to asb a female adapters

And put my dongle on that

[tacit linden]

You're lucky, there is even an MX Master 4 that is even heavier, 150g.

Dunno if that one has bluetooth though.

[vague sparrow]

I have a mx master 3 for working well at the end even for working I would prefer using a viper

[hazy fiber]

BeastX Pro comes with a nano dongle that you can just plug into your USB-C port. You can choose solid sides so the holes won't be an issue imo. Other than that the mouse is very good, feels premium and has web software if you need it

[tacit linden]

ASUS ProArt MD301 is 109g, looks like a competitor to the MX Master, I have never used it though so you'd have to look up reviews and stuff.

[burnt mirage]

WAIT WHAT???

[hazy fiber]

I don't think they want to break their wrist

[gray shuttle]

I mean these adapters

You can hinge the adapter

[burnt mirage]

Do u have a photo of the nano dongles

[burnt mirage]

This is also something I didn’t know about… 📝

[hazy fiber]

Wait

[burnt mirage]

That’s A

gg

[hazy fiber]

It's not USB C

[gray shuttle]

Yeah

[hazy fiber]

rip

[gray shuttle]

That's why you get the hinge adapter!!

It's like a snorkle

Lel

[tacit linden]

I'd still be scared my USB port will break if I put it in my bag with that on.

[gray shuttle]

Hmm

Fair

[burnt mirage]

The Asus pro art

Looks like a good option

[tacit linden]

Lets you swap switches, hehe.

[burnt mirage]

And 99.7g vs 141+g with Logitech….

[tacit linden]

180 days batterylife, should be good enough.

[burnt mirage]

That’s only like 2x some of my other mice too

In weight

Not 3x

🙏

Ty goats

[mental spade]

MX master is goated office mouse

[vital gorge]

Yeah it's nice, wish it was a tad lighter

[crude talon]

holy brick

[vague sparrow]

Yeah it is so heavy

[obtuse dove]

This tbh

The magnetic scroll wheel is just unbeatable

It switches between the notched mode and the smooth scroll mode so seamlessly you stop thinking about it switching

[vague sparrow]

Ok I want to know if it is in my head or not. I find the sound better (more bass and energetic) on an explorer plugged to a macmini with the jack port than on an ipad with apple dongle 🤔

[obtuse dove]

explorer?

[vague sparrow]

Aful explorer the iem

[obtuse dove]

could just be differences in output impedance of the 2 sources.

[vague sparrow]

It is crazy how good the jack port is on mac mini

Retrospectively I bought it last year and what a good little machine

[obtuse dove]

yeah generally apple has put really good audio sources in their macs.

[vague sparrow]

I dont regret getting it at all

[obtuse dove]

esp macbook air, pro, and neo

[vague sparrow]

Yeah neo seems quite good for the price

[obtuse dove]

too bad they discontinued the 256gb model

looks like even apple cant get enough nands to supply for their macs

you know its bad when apple has to start discontinuing certain models because they dont have certain necessary parts to make them

LMAO

[vague sparrow]

Well I got it before the AI madness with 1to and 24 go of ram

M4

[obtuse dove]

nice

[vague sparrow]

The only good buy I did without knowing it

I regret not upgrading my pc

Still on am4

[obtuse dove]

lmao rip

[vague sparrow]

Yeah 😵‍💫

[mental spade]

Think you're confusing Mac mini and Mac studio

[obtuse dove]

no they used to have a 256gb mac mini and now they dont anymore. new base storage is 512gb

similarly the 512gb macbook pro no longer exists

and the 256gb macbook air no longer exists.

[vague sparrow]

Well at the meantime the 256 base storage was so low

[mental spade]

O, yeah they got discontinued
But yeah they probably shouldn't have existed anyway

[obtuse dove]

yeah the old base configs were horrific

the new base configurations make a lot more sense now

[mental spade]

I'm super tempted to pick up a Mac mini

[vague sparrow]

Plus this machine does not heat and much more powerful than my 5600x on some python and julia task

For working I never use my pc

[obtuse dove]

the new base model mac mini is still a really good price.

[vague sparrow]

They are still at M4?

it is the model I have

[obtuse dove]

yeah

[vague sparrow]

I dont know maybe it makes sense to wait for M5 but with these issues with ram

Everything is changing so fast

Apple is one of the rare company that stayed calm despite the ram issue with no crazy price increase

[mental spade]

Probably had contracts with good prices well in advance going

[vague sparrow]

Yeah also given the volume of things they get

[obtuse dove]

oh for sure, although mac isnt a very popular product line when compared to their other products like iPhone and iPad.