#🔧│keyboard_modding
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i use the dpi button to switch poling rates
i use raw accel to make 6400 dpi into 800
RAW ACCEL 👁️
It’s mostly used to see how fast your sens is and min max to find your optimal sens (from what I’ve seen atleast), but to get to that point you’re going into a rabbit hole
I used to be good with raw accel and now I can’t find a curve close and too lazy to go back into that
Prob does more harm than good
It fucks your aim
I love raw accel
that too
I mean, no
raw accel i think is overrated a bit
bandaid fix for s44t control
Its useless unless you know what you want to do with your curve
me too!!!! kb and mouse is alot harder than it looks 🤣🤣 i feel like a noob but! the mouse and 80he are beautiful to look at while googling stuff 🤣
If you just do some random ass curve or follow some yt guide yeah it's gonna be fucked
i wanna get a finalmouse ulx soo badly but the small size idk if thats a wise choice given my hands are 22x11
i dont know raw accel either lol i remember optimum made a video about it and i tried it out and i couldn't aim
but i always loved small mice more
I tried raw accel but didn't understand how to use it for a while
white gpro with the wireless charging pad is the cleanest imo :V
hide it beneath the desk mat
I thought it was shit until I learned how to make the curve do what I wanted for my sens
The big issue with raw accel is it will fuck your aim when you’re not using it and takes a while to get used to not using it
im still new to mouse and kb gaming so basically the mouse doesnt die fast 😂
Not for me
And finding your optimal curve takes hours
I can switch to and from without any issue almost instantly
Lots of testing
the mice just doesn't die, i never had to charge with a cable :3
that just makes sense obv, humans work that way
If you have good enough mouse control raw accel won't affect your aim in anyway
ive charged once since i got it lol
Just does what you want your sens to do
You'd be surprised how fast your brain can adapt to different sensitivities
you are what your habits are so even if its hard to get used to it once you do get used to it its even harded to get rid of it so id say turn raw accel off
Even a constant changing one
look at any good instrumentalist
Granted you need to build that adaptability
how people play instruments, same concept applies to mice and aiming
Yes but without the muscle memory aspects
your curve must be wild. i tried to use it as a way to abuse lower sens but then i realize i can aim faster and still be accurate
Motor memory definitely is similar between the two
Barely
maybe flicking more so
I'm not gonna spend 45m deep diving into it, I can link the voltaic post if you'd like
if u never do aim training, once ur eye locks onto a target on the screen ur hand follows suite
my gpx 2 is modded removed the powerplay magnets, made the main clicks really light, made the side buttons better and i still prefer my vv3p lol
i guess
🍿
yea link it :3 just to learn
Yeah, and a majority of it is motor memory. Which is similar to muscle memory but in our brains not muscles
Lemme find it and sure
yeah but doesnt it also heavily depend on the mice u use? weight, mousepad glide etc
Less than you'd expect but they do
oh wait i thought you were talkin bout the acceleration curve
You can adapt very quickly
LMAO
Yeah makes sense, I know of it but never got that deep, plus I felt like I was naturally already pretty good at almost any game I play (humble brag ig) lol at least my buddies say that about me that is. I can pick about any game and get good at it
Ohhh, I can send you my last curve I used later this evening if you shoot me a dm
i guess that explains how some ppl can swap between different grips on different games/programs
Or I can try and make you one
Myself included
I use different grip styles and sens for all different types of games
The only Beast x mini they have on MaxGaming is a TTC Nihil one sadly
thats fucked up ngl
Apex I main 27cm, meanwhile val I play like 70
nah nah i am cool, i tried it and essentially i agree with matt and viscose's opinion on it. thank you though ❤️
I do 131 claw on apex but ftip with regular finger placement on all other games
All good, it's definitely not for everyone
And I don't use it all the time myself even
i used to use raw accel before ages ago back in the 1.6 days and i remember a lot of my esea buddies did too but the mice back then were super heavy, had wires the size of powercables and mousepads were super muddy, so in fact raw accel made it easier to train ur brain when to exert more force and when not to
Yeah + no raw input buffer
So having control over the accel driver is useful
to aim, do flicks, tracking... all standard things the zoomers do nowadays
how tf do you aim with 131 its really comfortable but i cant aim with that grip
Using it tons on apex
but mice and hardware advanced a long way, 20 years ago it was very different ofc
exactly
I had no stability at first but I just built up better mouse control and it was fine
All raw accel does is control the built in windows accel driver
i used to aim 1 3 1 back in the day :)) u just get used to it, habits
What rank in apex @marsh saffron ? 
but only because i was forced to do 1 3 1, my fingers were way too fat to rest them both on the side of a mouse
So you could also use it on old hardware to get no accel if wanted
Never touched ranked, got plat and got bored because it was too slow
Alright, fair
Middle finger on scroll wheel ring finger on right click
thumb on side pinky on side 3 fingers on top
that is fcked for pinky hell nah
You only use pinky and thumb for stability
depends rlly
thump and pinky on side 3 fingers on top
back i nthe day it was normal tbf
Its kinda needed for doing lurch tech on apex
depends how big ur hands are
131 on my beastx mini is kinda rough
me no use pinky at all for the last 3 mices i use :3
20x11cm hands makes this difficult
I use my pinky a lot
For both regular and 131(obv)
My pinky is my one finger that doesn't seem badly affected by my tremors
So I use it for a lot of stability in precise tracking
i can even tilt my pinky up
honestly fugg all these mice g502 ftw lol
I have hypermobility in my fingers 
I can use some disgusting grip styles because of it
can you noit move your pinky further up than that ?
I got high mobility fingys too im special
my my pinky touches the pad everymouse i use
Did yours come with the arthritis debuff
not too much, because i am essentially "gripping" the mice with the bone
and i dont put too much force anywhere
Absolute top tier
Make sure you select the solid side option
What is the diff?
beast x mini or ulx comp?
i feel like gripping the mice with the side of my ring finger and pinky would hurt after a long section
The regular(non pro) has sides with holes
Ohh okay, got u
isnt there a new beastx coming out?
The pro lineup
i am british lmao
Solid sides, 3950hs
do u reckong that would be a better buy than the ulx?
they are super similar
Fuck finalmouse
almost identical shape
Beastx is starlight shape
finalmeme
ye ive heard nothing but trash reviews from finalmouse idk why
Beastx is modified starlight molds
finaldogshit
What color do you get it in tho?
Wow folks in here really don't like them huh
i learned from the goat, once i know where the pressure is put the grip is super relaxing and comfortable :3
That's the hard part
but i liked the shape, the weight and the size, the ulx cheetah peaked my interest
They always have bad qc for the first multiple batches of new products, lie about features/don't provide them until a year later, fomo marketing abusers
$145
Just not a company id give my business to
aight
Its a better ulx for cheaper
but but but tenz love their mouses
Beastx is a modified version of finalmouses last mouse shape
"i want to be like tenz"
Which i think is similar to ulx
i thought it was smthn near the ulx which i loved
legit the best shape ive felt
full pause
Well I hate tenz too so that works for me 😭
Mchose l7 ultra for less than $60
i think hes a cool guy for sure but when people call him goat i cringe
Whats the specs
He's too much of a val eboy for me to tolerate
wait wtf
i just noticed, i have same grip
💀
i was gonna cop a sora v2 but the bs that was the 8k dongle turned me off of ninjutso
no arguement from me there LMAO
Didn't they take like 8 months for a 8k dongle 😭
8k, optical switches, 35g
Magnesium?
yeah
S4mple? 
s0mple
No

shr1mpl3
s1mple has became s 1 m p l e
bro thick af now
my goat is finished
@marsh saffron and its sold out now 😭
bro has new gf every month
Beastx pro?
?
the ninjutso 8k dongle
they only made a few
late 2010s s1mple is hot af though no homo but man oh man, the confidence, the skill, the.... sry fan boi moment
Is it restocking at least😭
Or did they just call it quits 
yea, if he had better team
4 majors
minimum
i havent checked i just know they're collabing with vaxee now
also his major winning team was literally goated, but situation in ukraine ruined it
Stewie my goat
@marsh saffron they don't have any beast x mini's in stock as of now, anything else to look at?
The smoke demon
Tbh I'd just wait
fckin banana man, yellow on the outside white on the inside

I miss old inferno
Whats the difference between the wlmouse beast x mini pro and the beast x mini?
Cs2 should just revert everything to 2014 cs
Sorry for stupid questions lol
Pro has 3950hs, solid sides, and a nicer scroll wheel
Regular mini uses 3395, slitted sides and plastic scroll wheel with a kinda mid encoder
cs is over. val is the one now, until cs get their s44t right.
then val can go fck itself
valorant hero shooter slop
And we all know how siege is doing...
i'm a cod player and bo6 is doing terrible rn
Can I link you a apex vid to watch
oh s44t sure brother
Your brain is going to leave the atmosphere
i'm just playing minecraft now lol
minecraft top 10 game :3
Take care guys, have a great rest of the night 
gta 5 too but we need gta 6 which will probably come out in 2027 on pc
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rdr2 is top 5. gta 5 for me was good but not like insane. dare i say cyberpunk 2077 over gta5
Just click through thr video you can see some movement
You must not have experienced gta online at its peek
Shit was unmatched
oh yea i never played online
id currently say:
- mafia 2
- mafia remaster
- cyberpunk 2077
- stalker2
- rdr2
role playing with real people is a... scary thought
stalker 2 ????
god damn LMAO mafia over those games? i love mafia 2 though indeed, not above rdr2 but that was a great game
blur smear 20 fps dog ai ???
i remember i was so hyped for starfield i even got gamepass to play it and then it came out buggy af and i finished the game in like 2 days
tbh mainly cause i like the mafia story line a bit more than the other games
stalker 2 is a game i wanted to try but i am scared of the bugs that people mention
what setup do you have ?
they made so much cash that they just started banging out patches
gpu / cpu ?
i never tried, saw the review and i turned away
id say try it
6950xt + 7800x3d i think
i encountered 1 actual issue that i fixed with a command but they have long patched that
idk i never really got into rdr2
rdr2 is goated, story 10/10, graphics 10/10, gameplay 10/10, content 10/10
for me of course
Very long, but has S tier immersion without most new game fluff. Nice experience
i am just impressed, like movement + good tracking at the some time is wild
id put rdr2 more around story 7/10, graphics 8.5/10, gameplay 8/10 and content 9/10
i might have to check it out then
story mainly has pacing issues and there is a part and map thats very short (as they had to cut a lot of it)
graphics hold up more than well enough
tell me you didn't cry when our boi died
gameplay is fine but horses
and content is more than solid
tons of alternate cutscenes for actions you took prior and honor level
tons of choice
Worth a buy imo
also rdr2 is currently 15bucks on steam
18 as ultimate edition
more than worth the price
cyberpunk 2077 i hate the story of the new dlc, maybe hot take
i used to really be into gta rp like 4 years ago but gor bored of it
and you can still play the online content (and no you dont have to fight cheaters theres a way to spawn in a "password" guarded lobby with all online functions available)
imo rdr2 rn is a really good pickup if youre into story heavy games and the western setting
is it fun to do alone, i tried a little bit
but never got into that
my friends just want to play marvel
(which you can share the file with the "password" and they auto join into your lobby and you into theirs)
ahhh fancy
i saw a streamer played that recently
still a good story though
I no longer get the hype of this game
I'm not a fan
i think the horse in that game maybe fcked, it ran all the way up to a 45 degree hill with no problem
Shhhh
too late now, we are in too deep
if im being honest gaming isn't as fun as it used to be. maybe because im older now idk
i feel similar way but more because i never have time to really sink into a game anymore
either way i stand by my top5 sp story game list from a bit earlier
I don't play many story games I'll try and think of mine
I haven't even finished rdr2 yet
same im a grown ahh 24 y/o adult with responsibilities 
i wish i was like 14 again lol
I wish I was like 8 again
if knowing what i know now and i am like 12 again, by the time i get to my currrent age i will be closed to retiring/ just chilling at a easy position

fr
actually knowing what i know now and i go back to 10 years ago i can probably straight up retire before my current age
Fuck all the extra money I'd be so much healthier if I could do that
Stop myself from picking up cigs 😭
you gotta do what you gotta do to stay up and get s44t done brother
i remember coming home from school speedrunning my homework and turning on my ps4 to play cod or gta with my friends
good times
Everyone always wants to go back in time without realizing you wouldn’t be who you are and where you are now without all the things that happened to you.
To each their own
And that's a bad thing
do you have a typing quirk for shit ?
agree. that is why i say if only knowing what i know
It’s all apart of the journey
same i got into cigs at 16 and vaping at 18 and i haven’t stopped since its really hard to quit
My journey cooked my wrists at 19😭
otherwise fck that, ain no way i am going through the same s44t show again
yummy flavoured air
i play riot game i get censored
my brain has been censored
lol
I started cigs at 9/10 and have been vaping since like 13
I'm now 20, still vaping
No cigs
bro nah thats insane
Maybe i don't want to go back in time and i just want to be unemployed but still paid so i can do whatever i want to including playing
btw sir, did you get like a email or somethin after you filled the IC form? just curious if they mention when they plan to do pre-order n stuff
waitin for that chill stream man
I don’t think I did
seen gmk pompeii?
i just quitted for a week and it was fine
:3 i quitted for fun
I've "quit" many times but I always come back
these interest checks are making me materialistic
Longest i went was like 1.5 years
Nah
1,5 years is nice
does someone know what does the case that looks like the normal 60he case called
made out of aluminum I think
I vaped when I was younger, quit like 4 years ago
then i think you can stop when you dont have too much stress ngl
Alumaze?
i used to hang around the cool kids at school and i regret it lol always got into fights always got suspended an i even got arrested too once but yeah i feel like if i was like i am now back then my life would be in a better place today
no its not wooting's case
The tofu redux?
me start late quit late then i guess. i started because of stress from research and my boy was like "give it a try"
clean roman numerals line
Idk it helps my funky nerve disorder
the metal legends and roman numerals
no this is my current case
its a metal case looks like the normal one with a strap hole
My mom has the same one and the doctor said it was why she likes nicotine
the fonts don't match
No clue, probably some aliexpress case

idm it
someone sent it here I think who sent it designed it
Pretty sick
yea its very clean on the pangea mini
Weed also helps this but I can't just be cooked 24/7
And i don't want to kill my kidneys with ibuprofen
i still feel thankful about your color recommendation for the leather mat, i love my setup right now
Damn that's clean
👀 got pics?
its messy rn :3
lmao i wouldnt judge
bro i was addicted to weed but i just stopped during lockdown and been craving nicotine more since
I'm not addicted to weed but I do like smoking it a lot
Haven't ever experienced any sort of withdrawal from weed so far
Been smoking heavy for 4-5 years now
nah me it was like i wasn’t myself if i wasn’t high you get me
ignore some of the stuff i am ashamed of myself
Yeah i haven't ever had any issues like this
Same
i dig the fact that its neutral enough when i change the lights' color it still works
unfortunately there is also a weed pen on the right
I seen that
Snazzy ass pen
in canada they banned 5% nic vapes so like bro this thing 50k puffs lasts me a week
I like drinking but I know it's terrible
not as bad as my desk lmao
does someone know the name of the case?
Life’s too short to not have a fun vice 
i don’t drink at all tho
too many vices ain good
bout to drop dead at my 30s
thats why i focus on gambling
bro my discords messed up for some reason i thought i got banned for a second
everyones did
I have never smoked 😳
same LMAO
Moderation key
selection key i think
That’s just the new retirement plan /s
you right you right LOLOLOL
thanks
true tho gotta enjoy shii while you still can
Amen 🙏🏻
that looks nice, has plates for different pcb too
is it any good? a 60he build in one of these was recommended to me on youtube but i couldn't find any other info on it
a bit overpriced imo
other than the strap i think its pretty good
but taste is subjective
would you say its better or worse than the 461e
because i ordered a 461e earlier today
that purple would look insane with some gmk sets god damn
over priced for mx board i think, but kinda hard to find stuff that work with wooting at a reasonable price
lmao then dw about it
Interesting mounting options though
461e's mount also interesting for mr Wurple's scenario :3
yeah im gonna stick with it i got it on cny sale
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True, I haven't seen many top mount options though
Feel like it would be a solid option especially since it's a stiffer mount
just get a friction fit pad not as stiff as tray mount but not as flexy as gasket mount
the nipple case
the tofu redux is really good but ngl i got kinda bored of it
just how i like it
i mean what
josh the gooner
black with glitter could look pretty good with gmk cosmos too
thats the one i got lol
what mount are you going to use
idk about the 4 but 61e kinda makes sense cuz its a 60%
says its inspired by the movie hellboy so maybe its a reference to that
probably gasket rn im using the friction fit pad in my redux
it does
grand touring 80 keyboard
its like racing themed
tbh i don't really see it tho
the vent and the lines at the back
the ano pine green with gmk british racing green would be a fire combo tho
@little glen do you have the gt80 ?
oof the full size keyboard kit i was eyeing got delayed to q4 guess i wont join the gb
yes
ooo show me pics :D
ngl kbdfans need to make a case for the 2 he
i dont have one but still would be kinda cool
ty
ive posted pics of it a couple times before
i also posted sound tests of it with various changes
damn that looks really nice
dont think thats ever happening
maybe if wooting makes another new fullsize
could you link to the sound test ?
yeah feel bad for them the 60he and 80he get all the love
found it
yup
that sounds so nice
the stock sounds so bad with no foam etc
yeah but you add poly fill and its a lot better
yeah ofc
i do personally also kinda like the sound that tape adds but its not for everyone
that is poly fill + 3 layer tape mod
interesting indeed
cause im gonna order the gt80
see how that is
in like 3 months
i really like it
yeah the setup you have is basically what im trying to go for rn, just a little less "bright" but only very slightly
god finding a full size keyboard kit is really difficult 😭
why are full size so popular with normal people and so unpopular with keyboard nerds
i want to build a board for my dad but this is gonna end up being a nightmare
https://clickclack.io/products/vtx-intro-s100 i would have bought this one if it didnt get delayed to q4 from q2
but now idk what to do
i dont want to be forced to buy a keychron man
😭
i was gonna say lmao
let me know if you find a good one, i tried looking too
i saw on deltakeyco they still have the vertex intro as shipping q2
surely that means if i order there itll arrive in time

best i could find is that one on kbdfans but its not even real full size and it doesnt allow for iso
supposedly weak top out for the duhuk switch from geon's recent stream
supposed to weaken the top out sound with it
Hmm
from the chinese on the picture and a review i saw on zfrontier
Wonder if it'll sound less like HE lol
supposedly bottom out its pretty good though
No Geon full size? lol
says similar to mx bottom out. and smooth
God willing.
is there one
A man can dream
Don’t think so, after quick peruse
Kind of surprising but yeah. Don’t think so
qk101 looks close but its so gamery 😭
my bitch ass thought it was gonna be a tactile HE switch
translation for yall english speaker kinda trash
but appearantly they put some work on the stem
"Different from the traditional shaft corestem magnet retracted or flush structure, we adopt the "magnet convex" design. The first advantage is that the single only the magnet touches the bottom, the sound is cleaner and more concentrated, and the second advantage is that the accuracy of the bottoming magnetic flux can be better controlled."
why you call yourself a bitch ass
sorry i woke up on the wrong side of the bed today
literally
Lol
Switches are expensive and Keycaps
every keycap set i have purchased so far has had full size support
Yeah but a lot of sets sell the numpad separately
honestly the qk100 doesnt look too bad
tho at that point i can also just go for the kbdfans tet if i'm already giving up those few keys
Use deepl translator for that
what lube do you guys recommend for wooting could you give me a few options to pick from
Basic AF
just normal ass krytox that everyone uses for everything
Hell yeah
Damn that’s weird tho
Is that standard?
The entire range of force is in the first .3mm
i see okay
205g0. Make sure it’s legit
shapes normal
okok
i can be horribly wrong
is there a reason why i have to make sure it’s legit?
are lubes like different?
205g0 is supposed to be the expensive and high quality stuff that doesnt dry out in 2 years
Mx full size?
ye
Seal was the one I was looking at
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123480.0
[IC]篆Seal - A Fullsize Keyboard
is the price i am seeing for that correct

i was so ready until i looked at the price tag
mmmmrmrnhhggg
seal good
good keybort
someone should make a 60he compatible cases tier list
with cases like the dt60 461e etc
frog mini >= savlation >>> tofu >= optimum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alumazed
i dont know how to write infinite ">"
dt60 and 461 would be between salvation and tofu imo
is the alumaze really that bad bruh
just to me personally :3
I don't think HE sounds that good in the Salvation tbh
and I'd put Optimum above Tofu
#1302261057296924702 message i think this was good
id take it over any other traymount solution
fr4 with raw and salv
frfr
We leaving tray mount in 2024, bro

Fr 💔
Lol yeah, just my personal opinion
It's not terrible , just feel like MX is better in the salv
where would one acquire a frog mini
luck + money
aftermarket
They don't make Frog Mini anymore
its worth tho
i cant use mx anymore, tried for a moment, when i switched to my other board with he switches it felt so smooth

Ima rebuild my Frog soon when I get these switches in
Which switch
what switches 0.0 ?
Some HE Switches
wooting ttc switch in coming
Yeah I have an MX build in my salv rn
Kailh BCPs which I was just testing out cause ima use em in another board
that is also coming soon
yeee i remember you mentioned it in the stream
which mx switches
also scratch is good
wish he had scratch
gateron speed silver, i dont remember what version that is, but the version with double stage spring
salvation is expensive af 200+ euro
It's pretty nice tho
and if thats the full kit, then worth
like case, pcb, etc
I got full kit for $220 USD on Black Friday
least I think it was Black Friday
i was reading thermalgoat's Hard Total Score Sheet when i brought it 
I wanna get some Blue Cheeses
b stock salvation from novelkeys is $100
???
What
is good
lol
yea mr wizard brought one, a few small issue on the inside but it is not actually visible once the board is fully built
Like pressing a switch and it feels sceatchy?
"hopefully"
You don't like scratch?
Like there's a scratch but its not friction
good mx scratch like cherry is more an audible feedback
Curious
does the case come with foam or would i have to put my own foam
Salvation or Klippe T?
i had an apex pro it wasnt really scratch it was pingy
The only scratchy sound while smooth I know are nearly all silent switches lmao
What’s better?
bad silents then qwq
One you like more..
this thing?
Kailh BCP, based on a frankenswitch called Black Cherry Pie, is a collaboration between Off Studio and Kailh, featuring new molds for a top and bottom housing that mimics its original sound and feel. Check out our thoughts about the switch and a sound test in this video.
We include a control keyboard sound test (Neo70, Aluminum plate, gasket mo...
Yeah
What if I don’t like tray mount?
what’s a silent switch that doesn’t sound scratchy? I need to try more
Lol I had one too
Sounds terrible
then go with salv 😃👍
bro its a lottery me with my luck i'll probably get the worst colour
ye
love lichx
That’s literally the worst one ever
I hate it
I think I’ve heard those before, they are not with silicone right?
they are, but the system is a bit different
fr 😭
I’ll check em out
What if I don’t want to build an HE board? Is it even worth it anymore? I don’t play many games that take advantage of HE
i think u might be thinking of the haimu silents which use no dampener
just holes to diffuse sound
yeee
salvation gud
that wooting60 on it?
soundtest?
Venom
you got a 6.25u venom?
i remember badseeds soundtest was really bad
wasnt mine to keep
uncharacteristic
i own a 7u
ahhh
what switches
Is HE only worth it for gaming though?
yea i think raw is nicer with salvation
fck i am too lazy to swap the jade pro to tofu 2.0
no

What else do you think?
Raw he
for typing its really good
Why would I go with those instead of MX or something though
he has no leaf so more smooth
for gaming or to use for typing
eh
gaming, productivity or anything else that can take advantage of analog. besides that, not really.
they might just be it. next on my to get list, ty sir
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Makes sense. I don’t know, I’ve given it some thought. I don’t think I want to go with an HE board anymore.
Even for the games that I do play that “benefit” from it, I think I’d rather have the better sounding/looking board
you do you but me i've bought 2 60he's to support a good company thats for the consumer
my og 60he is being used by my little brother and my module that i'm using while typing this
Ngl the only reason I didn’t get it with upgraded switches was cuz I was fine with it sounding ass, I got noise canceling headphones
Why, Sly?
I thought you liked keyboards more as a whole
Same 
Paradigm shift
Sry hippyo lmao
Have you tried one?
An HE board?
If all you are doing is watching videos or reading reddit then I highly recommend you somehow try it to see how drastic a difference it is from any non HE board
Night and day, it is simply the future
At least for gaming
i just swapped raw he and jade pro from my two cases. jade pro is definitely louder than raw he
idk at least it doesn't sound as harsh when i use it
doesn't reflect so well in the recording but irl one is definitely louder than the other
Nice
Yea I also compared couple days ago, just put 2 raws in my 80he and they were definitely louder than pros
Maybe it depends on the board it is installed on, can sound deeper depending on many variables?
left one is jade pro and the right one is raw, not sure if you can hear it
alu on both
Not sure, at least on my 80he on both pc plate and fr4 raws are louder
actually my take is dog shit, i changed the spring
i forgot about that
i changed to lekker spring
jade pros?
raw
I think you would know more than me
i like raw he on salv much more
Sound tests are so bad lol, from your videos I barely notice any difference, but I know they are different kinda
nah there is 100% a difference :3
ok from your soundtests I also prefer raws
weird
did you hand lube them
the reason i changed is because salv was a bit too loud and messy and tofu was a bit muted
now they both improved
think this match is nicer
I feel like at this point if I don’t love RAW’s I’ll just cop TTC Pom tho
So idk if I care any more lol
love the tofu for this
makes the clack way quieter
raws are insane
I’m distracted by what looks like a battery powered soldering iron. Does it work well?
Waiting on mine
that is a electric screwdriver i think
LOL
might just be an electric scredriver
Ah damn
i have one too but way shittier
really nice for doing keyboard stuff
excluding mine lacking magnetic bits
same^
yea especially when you have to undo like 69 screws to get it open
lol but yeah I’m probably not buying Jade pros. Even tho I am tempted lol
glad you agree about that sir
or if you are trying like 5 different builds
I need to try ttc poms when wooting sells them
i still wanna try raws
honestly if youre going to get switches just cop poms from wooting, price is fucked i know 
just based on what i tried, board with less space under the pcb seems to be nicer with jade pro
salvtion got too much reverb, jade pro's sound just go crazy in there
just took a listen myself from the geon stream
def interesting imo'
price seem decent too, if they appear on ali or divinikey i think i will try them
i think it sounds cleaner than the avg HE switch
what's the price?
he does have foam in there though so there is that
that's fucking cheaper than the RAWs
holy shit
yeah but arent they loud asf
holy fuk i wanna cop lowkey
also im not spending 120+$ for 70 switches 😭
but that is price for china, i kinda expect it to go a tiny bit higher for us
Yea from soundtests theyre louder but they benefit a lot from handlube, I also didnt want to get them but I have to
the price is the main issue
same
how much per switch?
1$, maybe even more because wooting will sell customized version
you pay 70+ dollars and you still have to hand lube
that s44t is messed up
100 cad before shipping/tax for switches is wild
shit would cost me 150$
i mean if it's not past 0.50 then ill honestly still be happy
ill cop still
note, top out is weak and spring i think is pretty short as well
they did that intentionally :3
Yea, I hated them but pom version is actually very good from soundtests and im so curious how they feel
Almost 0 wobble is tempting
Is Geon all about short springs?
Jade pros better
soon whole modding channel will be on ttc poms, prepare for "poms better" messages
i just hope mr. arc can get his refund
As soon as mine arrive, ill message right here how amazing they are lol
hopefully
luminkey and loobedswitches' communication is hanging on a thread
No
As the KOM biggest hater I never thought I’d see the day I’d get them 💀
Feels kinda fucked up tbh
did you get them?
did you get them??
LLMAO
Jinx buy me Poms

im kinda wondering if I should have gotten the non pom version, might have sounded a bit brighter like I like it
yeah thats full pom
😉
I highly highly recommend you try one out even if not wooting just to see…. Copped my first 60he off ebay and it has been wooting ever since. Customer service to community is all A+
I have a lemokey but that is for work and not at home
The only constant ‘change’ lol
we are in endless loop
lol respect


Hypekeyboards? Lol
Bro said Torontoman needs to lock the fuck in
I’m dead haha
ive only seen 1 alu plate for 80HE and its torontoman
its been out of stock since like day 1 lmao
i thought someone mentioned there is one on ali
Just email him lmao
Fiending for that alu huh?
Send a link bc I tried earlier and didn’t find anything
Does that even do anything
Never hurts to try
Ask who his supplier is. Go straight for the jugular.
nvm. has brass but not alu, thats funny
got my ttc poms in yesterday. currently lubing. done 20. having a rest atm. pray for me.

I got you, unfortunately not many people around me that know of HE and its benefits lol. Even myself, while I do play some games that would be better with HE, I think I’d prefer the sound and feel over performance.
Mercy on you. Remember it'll be worth it.
Imagine being ttc hater (dont search my old messages about them)
hi don't mean to interrupt any ongoing conversations; was there any update on the 80he white zinc case? if not feel free to ignore this message thanks!
Paint got fixed
probably soon
factories just started working again most likely
oop nvm according to calder it still closed
Aka probably May
Don’t quote me tho
Calder probably changing it now as we speak
my cheap switches and plates
Wait so I am Canadian and I just fking bought Gateron magnetic switch tester from Gateron which is in Hong Kong. Is that going to pose an issue for me?
Are they not going to ship that shit or whatever cause I ordered it like a week ago almost and i have not even been given a shipping confirmation email
Thank god I don't live in the US
Yeah same but I use a forwarder that ships to me
Anything us only from china is out for me
Can still use fedex dhl etc tho
Noice
Like keyboard fun store doesnt ship to me lol
I had to ship it to the forwarder in the us then back to asia lol
My CF plate is precious now
Also doing my part for the environment 
I think this is only for the US
Thats why my magnetos are taking so long to get to me
Why are my switches taking so long to get to me then? I havent even gotten a shipping confirmation from Gateron and ordered them a week ago and emailed them and they havent even gotten back to me
Holiday in China
yeah CNY/lunar new year
chinese new year man
Lunar new year
How long is that I thought that was for a day last week?
How long do they celebrate
2-3 weeks but dont quote me
2 weeks or so
Oh shiiiiitt I had no idea
Thanks for the information everyone at least that clears it up for me
Speaking of chinese new year anyone the year of the snake here?
Their new years last 8 days
So lots of packages get built up
Does anyone have a sound test of the wooting 80he pcr case vs the gt-80?
Cause usually the stuff I buy is north american and takes like 1-2 days to ship out
Do you guys ever watch a switch video comparison and they sound exactly the same but then you watch another comparison video comparing the same two switches by a different youtuber and then you hear the difference?
If that makes sense
that is normal
Yeah I’m waiting on a custom wrist rest from china as well
Looks like you're gonna have to wait extra now cause the new year too lol
I honestly don’t even know what’s gonna happen now lol
Based on this how can I tell what a switch will sound like before I buy it? Just buy a switch tester?
ideally you want to try things out. sound test, imo, is still useful if it is from the same youtuber, since the setup should hopefully be the same, and with that you can make comparisons. but of course, dont expect what you hear is what you get
So basically just buy a switch tester and try it out yourself
Thats really the only answer
Amazon returns
Yeah or that
meh, a switch on the tester thingy can sound different compare to when it is on your case
fuck no
Naw naw naw you dont get what I mean, all you do is get a switch tester and put the single switch in your keyboard and just try it out like that
And the switch tester I got from gateron the magnetic switch tester has like five magnetic jade pros so I can just pop those in and compare them to the Lekker
You know what i mean
I’m glad I got one 
And I could easily tell at tht point if i like it or not instead of buying 100 switches and returning them
The switches on the switch tester arent like glued to it you can just take it out
yea that is good
i dont use wooting but what's a better switch between the jade pro/max and the geon raw he
in typing feel
jade pro is better than raw he in typing feel
max is ass cheek according to many who have tried them
I tried them 💀 , I think it was determined that the same material being used caused friction issues
Pro or RAW depending on your budget/wants
max are all PC and feels like shit
or pom if "money is not a issue"

could say the same for maxes, but they do kinda suck depending if youre an RGB fanatic that wants every last %
Pros are nice
Church of TTC now
what is 1 3 1?

