#🔧│keyboard_modding

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vale swan
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prob the wrong switch if you wanted a good stock switch

fluid ravine
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YMDK store

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alr

vale swan
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ye

split dagger
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I buy and I play CutePePe

fluid ravine
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i wont consider cus well i CANT

vale swan
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idk what you'd see from properly modded lekkers to these btw

fluid ravine
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but damn

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thats pretty fkin cheap

vale swan
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the dual rail shit probably doesnt do too much

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i dont see how you'd lube the rails on these which is good 1 less thing to lube

fluid ravine
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got the steel plate whipped out

vale swan
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wait you are actually doing it?

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I was joking bruh

fluid ravine
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yeah im bored as shit

vale swan
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😭

split dagger
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I saw people use the raptors and stem swap it with the L60 and kinda wanna but like I said I have no idea how to mod keyboards

vale swan
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well if you want a good stock switch those aren't it

fluid ravine
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ok now i htink abt it

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i dont wanna swap plate

vale swan
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those white KS20Us I linked are much better stock

fluid ravine
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ima just do configs

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like plate foam

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and mount

vale swan
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I never really used plate foam with gummy o ring

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the kbdfans pe switch pad sure

fluid ravine
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i dont use plate faom anymore

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its been a few months now

vale swan
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yeah i dont either

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even on tray mount i didnt

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case foam sure

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especially in the bellmaze

fluid ravine
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havent really tried silicone

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like i did for recording

vale swan
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its very silent but is also higher pitched than foam

fluid ravine
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but only in it for 2 mins

vale swan
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i got a nice spacebar out of it

fluid ravine
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alr

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ima start

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lol

vale swan
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hopefully your stabs wont fuck up again

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because troubleshooting stabs is the worst thing possible

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and with plate mounts if you did holee mod lube and wire balance and its still fucked you are kinda fucked

prime orbit
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Magnetic jade switches the best ones currently?

vale swan
prime orbit
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im new to modding so bear with the questions lmao

vale swan
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so it feels differently

fluid ravine
vale swan
fluid ravine
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Polyfill made it hollow

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So I changed the foam

prime orbit
vale swan
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thats not bad for a tray mount wooting

fluid ravine
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Agreed

vale swan
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it still sounds a bit hollow in certain areas tho

polar girder
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You ditched polyfill?

vale swan
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for that config yes

fluid ravine
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For now

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Just for fun

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It was really hollow tho

polar girder
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Yeah I Hve to play around with it more

fluid ravine
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Idk why

polar girder
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Need to put in plate foam

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Maybe swap case foam/fill idk

fluid ravine
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Ima do poron now

polar girder
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Nice

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No plate foam sounds solid. But I want more muted sound

lost badge
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do u guys have pom with polyfill

polar girder
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Pom what

lost badge
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i like pc plate better

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pom plate

vale swan
# fluid ravine

this would be much nicer if you had a brass weight in that case

polar girder
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I only have PC plate

vale swan
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i have 2 PC 1 FR4 and 1 CF

vale swan
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sound fuller

fluid ravine
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(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ

vale swan
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no deskpad enjoyer tho nice

fluid ravine
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Mhm pepeyes

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Poron

pastel vigil
prime orbit
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im more of a you tell me i buy

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cuz idk anything about keyboards LMAO

pastel vigil
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Probably whatever you use will be fine then.

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It's only when you start using other stuff that you start to develop preferences and then certain things become unusable lmao

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I hate how the jades sound but they feel incredible because they have a closed bottom housing so when i bottom out it actually feels like it which is useful sensory feedback imo

vale swan
pastel vigil
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with lekkers am pushing into another dimension thinking I haven't hit the bottom yet

fluid ravine
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poron gummy mount, i regret doing this.....

vale swan
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the camera fucks ur fingers

prime orbit
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doesnt affect me i just go for straight performance

pastel vigil
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Same

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Like if I can make it sound better I will, but I won't compromise on feel or performance.

prime orbit
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So jades

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bet

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what about a pcb plate

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needed or no?

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i see the carbon fiber one everywhere

pastel vigil
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the module comes with a PC plate which is pretty good

prime orbit
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bet

vale swan
pastel vigil
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honestly it sounds great to me, whats the issue?

vale swan
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the backspace sticking

pastel vigil
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rip

fluid ravine
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i went back tomy normal config

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The reason why it was stuck due to the alignment issue like the tofu v1

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it would be hitting this

vale swan
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ah

fluid ravine
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gummy mount prevented that gladly

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but if any of my stabs are stuck or scratching the case

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then that means i did my gummy mount incorrectly

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or if i cant get it to bounce properly

vale swan
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well thats a good way to know atleast ig

woven mango
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Couple odd questions

Are there rgb diffusion layers made by any 3rd party company's for any wooting board?
And are there diffusion key caps aswell, preferably in the style of the smokey/ghost case

Not a huge fan of how key caps block most of the light from rgb

I'd pay double if the smokey keys would have been an option when buying my 80he

weary tree
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transparent black yes but doesnt difuse light

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idk about the glorious keycaps quality and shine tho

surreal tide
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Guys do u have a good website for keycaps ?

glossy pagoda
weary tree
still wraith
quiet bay
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I just got my wifi card
my game feels so much better now that I dont have any ping spikes 😌

polar girder
median spade
quiet bay
median spade
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pfffff just run 200ft cable from wherever the router is

quiet bay
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no cables in sight!!

median spade
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Fair enough, and that's how my setup is outside necessary cables

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but ethernet gets the pass as it runs from one wall of my room to my pc lmao

polar girder
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lol yeah I think once you plug Ethernet cable in you realize it’s worth the cost

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Having that cable draped wherever is NBD for that sweet sweet Ethernet connection

pastel vigil
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Which one is for filling and which one is for dispensing?

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The stem is stuck because the tolerances are too tight, right? I guess this is why some of you took the lube off the lekker stem before using on raptor housing?

hollow ibex
spiral anvil
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You can only have the thinest layer or it'll feel sticky or get stuck

rough trellis
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Anyone have recommendations for finding cool esc keycaps for XDA profile?

wide kraken
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i've been down the XDA kitbashing rabbit hole before and it's all pain because there's like 3 or more slightly but noticably different XDA molds out there void

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might be better off getting a non-profile artisan cap or something

stray tiger
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Just get an artisan for your ESC

vale swan
cloud plaza
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Hello

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I was wondering if it would be possible to take the PCB and keycaps from the wooting two HE and put it inside a different case (steelseries apex 7 case)

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hehe

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Honestly don't really like that steelseries keyboard itself, but love the case and keycaps, so was wondering if cooking that up would be possible lol

noble flame
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Little leather strap prototype

vale swan
pastel vigil
cloud plaza
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I mean I have the steelseries keyboard, don't have the wooting

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was considering buying wooting but the case is kinda ugly lol

brazen sparrow
pastel vigil
noble flame
rough trellis
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Any recommendations on websites to find cool artisan esc keycaps?

vale swan
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salvun

pastel vigil
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These 70g 18m springs feel great, they also sound good, jades are finally not ear piercingly high pitched. Haven't even lubed them yet but I am optimistic.

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I found some 22mm springs I'm gonna try next and then lube whichever set of springs I decide to use

vale swan
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wait what

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what did u get @pastel vigil

pastel vigil
vale swan
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hmm sound less loud from a spring

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i'd believe it with MX stuff

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If you want less loud Jades I'd try a PC Plate

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thats what i did in my salvation

pastel vigil
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Am using a PC plate, its still too loud. Actually it's not the loudness that bothers me, it's just how high pitched it is.

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First few taps is the stock jade, last few are the spring swapped jades.

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Here’s the lekkers and raptors. Stock lekkers, spring swapped lekkers, stock raptors, spring swapped raptors.

pastel vigil
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To be specific, D is stock lekker, F is stock raptor, G is stock jade, H is spring swapped lekker, J is spring swapped raptor and K is spring swapped jades

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My guess is that the spring being a different length is whats affecting the sound because it's adding more mass. When I get the 22mms Im curious to see how those sound.

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I just happen to like long springs, I wasn't expecting it to affect the sound but it's a pleasant surprise.

vale swan
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interesting

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the jades are closed backs after all so will be much louder than the others

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but still good to know

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i did notice the bottom out of the jade is much harsher than the MX stuff

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might pick up those cheap white KS20Us

pastel vigil
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I have some orange duel rails coming in, Ill probably spring swap them and post an update

vale swan
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i didnt notice the harsh bottom out on these jades until i got the salvation

pastel vigil
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Lubing them really helps with that, but I haven't had the time and motivation to lube all of my jades yet.

vale swan
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@stray tiger You do have the KS20U's right? They did mostly fix that HE rattle like the Jades?

pastel vigil
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I'm gonna do it when I finally spring swap them all at some point

pastel vigil
vale swan
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the lube job is about 2 and a half months old

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the lekkers also had the rattle come back after the same period

stray tiger
vale swan
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ye mine dont really rattle

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i mean against the lekkers

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the jades improved a lot

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just wanted to know if the ks20u also did

stray tiger
vale swan
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thats good

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the problem i have with the lekkers is that the bottom out feels so mushy compared to these

vivid jasper
vale swan
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good

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might have to get me some of those

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especially for how cheap the white ones are

vivid jasper
vale swan
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👌

pastel vigil
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They also look cooler than the oranges. But I have my biases.

vale swan
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yeah especially on the white pc plate and white salvation

latent fern
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since the jades compress springs less due to their shorter travel, wouldn’t that affect the labeled bottom out force on replacement springs?

pastel vigil
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Allegedly 3.5mm travel instead of 4.1 on the oranges

vivid jasper
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and in case you haven't noticed, it's the same store.

pastel vigil
vale swan
spiral anvil
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What the fuck

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Bro what is this paint made out of

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I literally heat gunned and its still not drying???

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I am sweating from the heat coming off the heat gun and the paint is literally warm to the touch

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And it's still tacky

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I'm going to bake it at this point

stray tiger
foggy estuary
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does anyone know of any all around good switches for when i have my 80he. I know of the jades but im looking for other options.

polar girder
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I mean there’s only like 5 options

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Raptors, jades, 20u, l45 or l60

foggy estuary
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what are the 20u

polar girder
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Or some like cheap rando knock-offs

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Dual rail

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KS-20U

foggy estuary
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which would say is the best?

polar girder
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I wouldn’t

spiral anvil
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Apparently the replacement primer I got from the same brand was a bit different

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So the spots with the new primer

pastel vigil
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Probably 80%+ of peolpe are just fine with the stock l60s

foggy estuary
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ill probably be happy with either the l45 or l60

shy tapir
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is burger mounting worth it for alumaze60

pastel vigil
shy tapir
vale swan
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my 60he spent 95% of its life in the redux burger mounted

pastel vigil
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Graveshift Small - 30-50a

vale swan
shy tapir
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Oh bet thank u guys

vale swan
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the stock stabs are good once u lube them up like very good in fact so I'd probably get the s size one

shy tapir
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Has anyone also tried putting kilmat in

vale swan
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hippyo did

pastel vigil
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Hipyo tech did lol

vale swan
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if you use gummy o ring in the alumaze just use the stock foam

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maybe do 1-2 layers of tape mod if you want it dampened further

shy tapir
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Gotcha ty for the help 🫡🫡

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Gonna build it tomorrow but my keycaps haven’t come in yet

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Idk why it took 4 days for it to get from New York to Pennsylvania when it still needs to get to cali 🫤

vale swan
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not sure with what courier your stuff arrives but DHL even DHL express in the EU has been a headache for me

sturdy ridge
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Hey, I'm looking for a keyboard to help me not bottom out or bottom out so that there is less force on my fingers. I've seen tone of conflicting advice online. Does anyone know what switches/combo would help?

pastel vigil
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Officially there's L45s

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Gateron

Tip ! This switch is only compatible with keyboard fit lekker switch-Wooting. • Type: Linear • Operation Force:30gf • Total travel: 4.1±0.2mm• Initial magnetic flux: 102Gs• Bottom-out magnetic flux: 905Gs• Action travel: Freely setting • Spring: 15mm • LED Support:SMD • Pre-lubed: Yes • Lifetime: 100 million

marsh saffron
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Can you gummy oring mount the stock case?

pastel vigil
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but it needs finnessing

marsh saffron
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What orings would I use for it?

pastel vigil
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I use 40a

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i hear most recommend 30a-50a, not sure what would happen if you went harder

marsh saffron
pastel vigil
marsh saffron
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I'll see if I can find something on Google explaining the difference

sturdy ridge
pastel vigil
sturdy ridge
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I think it's giving me hand pain

pastel vigil
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thats why i suggested lighter switches lol

sturdy ridge
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it feels like when I type hard and bottom out more and harder it hurts more

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but I don't think it's the fatigue, I think it's the impact on the bottom

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or do you mean I will bottom out lighter on lighter switches?

pastel vigil
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you can use heavier switches to make bottoming out take more effort, but that will just make you fatigue more than lighter switches that hit the bottom.

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Ultimately it's all preference, but generally when people get fatigue they get lighter switches

sturdy ridge
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OK, thx

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would setting the actutation point really high in the wooting help?

pastel vigil
vale swan
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these people need to stop being hacked

sturdy ridge
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wouldnt it require less?

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like at 0.01?

pastel vigil
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but yeah it would need less force

sturdy ridge
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so thats what I meanb - low

pastel vigil
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might be too soft though and make you prone to errors, you'll just have to trial and error your way to find what point works best for you

pastel vigil
untold wigeon
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Any japanese key cap suggestions? Have a black wooting 60he (not +).

untold wigeon
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Yeah

vale swan
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those are sublegends so theres a lot from pbtfans and gmk

untold wigeon
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cool thanks

sturdy ridge
loud zephyr
vale swan
woeful loom
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Can i use DUROCK V2 PCB Mount Screw Stabilisierer on my wooting 60he ?

vale swan
woeful loom
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I have the normal One 60he

vale swan
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no

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if you really want to switch stabs on the 60he look for durock plate mounts or tx ap plate mounts, but dont swap stabs if you have no issues

woeful loom
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Thanks 👍

latent fern
cursive wave
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thoughts on the Monsgeek M1W paired with the Everglide Aqua Kings?

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im tryna build my first keyboard and have found that these are valid and somewhat known options in the keyboard space

zinc glen
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Can the durock v2 screw ins work with the Wooting 60he+ plate? Will it be too tight?

vale swan
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only TX AP and Staebies wont work iirc

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i'm not sure why you'd buy durocks over the stock gateron stabs tho

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unless you are not on the module and you mean the prebuilt

zinc glen
zinc glen
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@vale swan any recommendations for screw in stabs?

vale swan
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cherry screw ins/clip ins, durock v2s

polar girder
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Nah

spiral anvil
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Yea the case is cooked

stray tiger
# polar girder Nah

This will probably have been the worst pick-em you'll ever have so that's the plus side lol

polar girder
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Haha 📠

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Only up from here

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Rooting for Navi here tho

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JL playing out of his mind

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Whole team showing up nicely tho

pastel vigil
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https://www.alohakb.com/en-ca/products/epbt-firearm-cherry-profile-keycaps-set-alohakb

Is Aloha reputeable? I think this set might look good in the black alumaze if it matches the accent color but I have never heard people talk about AlohaKB in good or bad lol

stray tiger
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Don't know about Aloha but EPBT are typically good keycaps

pastel vigil
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That's reassuring.

spiral anvil
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Wait we're so back

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The case is a bit scuffed but the paint is finally drying

pastel vigil
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Am very curios on how it ends up sounding

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I might do the same thing to my plastic case lol

pastel vigil
spiral anvil
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After

spiral anvil
pastel vigil
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I hear the difference but I like the before better. I might just unironically rock the plastic case as is after going on a wild pursuit of improved sound for weeks.

obsidian dagger
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test it first

spiral anvil
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The paint made it more high pitched

pastel vigil
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#🔧│keyboard_modding message

Check out how the longer 18mm springs changed the sound of the HE switches. I have some 22mm springs on the way, I think it will make them even more low pitched. I think the extra mass is what is doing it.

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I also think longer springs feel great so it's a win win.

spiral anvil
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Tofu redux is probably my only choice for a clean purple case that won't kill my wallet

pastel vigil
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I hear the corners on the tofu are sharp so it might kill you instead.

polar girder
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Just ordered the M3K mod kit and Faze lost the CS2 major final

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Today is a good day pepeyes

stray tiger
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I was cheering for Navi too. Not only do I not like Karrigan but I wanted Navi to win without S1mple

untold wigeon
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what do you guys think is better for an acrylic tofu build, pom jelly, keysterine, or cerakeys (solely for sound)?

pastel vigil
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Basically impossible to answer this questin.

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So I suggest just getting whatever keycaps you think would look best.

untold wigeon
pastel vigil
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I mean if you show me a bunch of sound samples I'd be happy to tell you what I personally think sounds best, but being able to predict what they sound like and make a recommendation to go with your specific case is incredibly difficult even if I had the exact same key caps. There's just too many factors at play to make a suggestion in earnest.

untold wigeon
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oh no i was asking what you think looks the best lol

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the cerakeys is just the lazy option for sound cause i dont feel like doing too much to make the board sound better

pastel vigil
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Your question had "solely for sound" so you'll have to pardon my confusion.

untold wigeon
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yeah i worded it poorly

pastel vigil
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I think pom jelly would look neat with acrylic tofu.

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Light diffusion galore

untold wigeon
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i was thinking that too but wasnt too sure about not having legends

pastel vigil
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I guess it depends on how often you reference them. I don't really check. You could creatively use the per key RGB colours as some sort of reference.

untold wigeon
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alright i think ill go with poms then

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ty :)

pastel vigil
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You gotta post the final build!

cursive wave
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S-k71 from womier a good budget keyboard?

normal schooner
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@cursive wave get a wooting 2 he

cursive wave
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im ngl

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ive seen videos calling it a "mid" keyboard

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im not prioritizing gaming

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just want somethuing that sounds and performs well

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a good mix of the few

bronze jackal
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You can do a lot better for the money if gaming isn't your priority

fluid ravine
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and what nut says

vale swan
spiral anvil
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@bronze grove

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We need clean up in Isle five

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@normal schooner

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@autumn creek Sorry don't know to ping for this

pastel vigil
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It was posted in almost every channel fyi

autumn creek
autumn creek
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thank you, was plastered all over multiple channels pepecry

spiral anvil
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Still is havo

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Thank you for your service

prime orbit
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Anyone know where i can get japanese keycaps?

mint oracle
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I should be getting GEON HE RAPTORS soon, I want to do the the mod using the Lekker stem and Raptor housing.

I have lekker 60s and 45s. The only videos of this mod has been with the L60s, has anyone done this with the L45 and Raptor yet and is it better to use the L60?

pastel vigil
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it's the same

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the only thing different about the 45s and 60s is the spring, the stem is just a different color but is the same stem.

mint oracle
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Great to know to know, thank you @pastel vigil

uncut oak
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Hey guys, I was wondering if this is just me but when I placed my gateron jades onto my wooting, I find them very hard to remove even when using a switch puller? I dont know if its just a skill issue or something

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I am just worried cause I dented some of the plastic on a switch while trying to remove it priorly

latent fern
minor pond
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do the 80he have any cases that will work with it ?

hushed stirrup
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Did anyone upgrade from l45 to ks20u? Both say initial force 30gf but i know if it feels different from someone who owns both

uncut oak
vivid jasper
vale swan
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the Jades loosened up over time but the board has been rebuilt over 50 times with those

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the L45s I only used once and I bent my FR4 plate trying to get them out

turbid verge
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is there any way to mod the pcb 60 to support the dtb ? i dont want to limit my case options. 😢

turbid verge
cedar gate
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Do you guys think the jades need switch film I'm debating whether or not they do

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BTW u mean gatreon jades not box jades

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Just figured out there's a difference

turbid verge
cedar gate
vale swan
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the best thing you can do these Jades is lube the spring and the stem

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thats about it

cedar gate
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Is it worth it tho

vale swan
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only you can find that out

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all switches come prelubed to some degree, but outside edge cases i do not trust pre lube

cedar gate
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Hasn't factory lubing gotten pretty good

turbid verge
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yes the sound is huge dif but the stock sound is good too , up to you bro

vale swan
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HMX has good factory lube, thats a recent example

vale swan
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the stock jades are unreasonably loud

polar girder
long heron
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just check reviews first

prime orbit
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Bet

flat obsidian
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hey guys maybe someone can help me last sunday i did my first modding and bought a new case and tx ap mount stabs aswell as tape modding it + using gateron jades now. everything went well my lube job was imo really good for a first time and there is no issues using these stems with the lekker60 v1 (that came with the wooting) but when i put jades the key gets "stuck" (is really slowly moving back up). Did i miss something?

i am i using a 60he (not 60he+) @stray tiger

flat obsidian
stray tiger
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The Jades springs arent as strong

flat obsidian
fervent barn
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Any recommended mods for the original release of the Wooting Two HE (100%, the full size one).

I would like to get more "thoccy" switches, but all the current HE switch options are kinda meh from what I hear.

Is there anything to gain from foaming or taping or anything else on the he fullsize?

stray tiger
velvet egret
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I ordered some jades for 34 euros 🥳. What a steal

pastel vigil
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Where'd you find that deal? I got some on sale from ali express the other day, like $50 CAD for my 60.

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I'm not decided on what springs I will end up landing on, but Jades are for sure my go to switch, they just feel too good. Long pole/closed bottom housing feels so solid.

median spade
pastel vigil
harsh dove
harsh dove
cedar gate
uncut oak
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Also, do you guys know if it is possible in wootility to make it so that only specific keys have an rgb effect like trailing? I am trying to do it for a single keycap to have trailing whereas others don't (like caps lock cause I find it confusing). Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask about this kind of thing

weary tree
uncut oak
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Yea thats why I’d wanna turn it off for that but keep the rest on trail

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Just curious if the option exists

weary tree
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your best bet is to use artemis rgb

obsidian dagger
weary tree
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how

obsidian dagger
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the little circle is the lock color

weary tree
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wow didnt know

latent fern
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can i use the poron plate foam with gummy o-ring? or will the plate foam get in the way?

pastel vigil
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silicone pad no

latent fern
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@pastel vigil you have been such a great help! thank you very much

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i just got my jades today and they are soooo nice

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the gummy o-ring should be coming this week

pastel vigil
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Ay thats what I do, Jade and Gummy mount

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feels incredible

latent fern
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i also got 62g 22mm springs for the jades

pastel vigil
#

I am using some 18mm 70g at the moment

latent fern
#

22mm 62g springs were my favs on non-HE switches so i assume they’d be great on the wooting

pastel vigil
#

The long springs give you finer control on the key, the extra mass also improves the sound of the switch

latent fern
#

but the stock jade springs actually aren’t too bad weight-wise

pastel vigil
latent fern
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i thought they would be too soft cuz i’ve never had switches with a spring lighter that 60g

pastel vigil
#

in my experience longer springs can feel heavier than shorter springs of the same force, so I ordered 22mm 62gs that I think will be just as good if not better.

latent fern
#

@pastel vigil are you using any case foams with your gummy o-ring board?

pastel vigil
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Nothing special, just the foam that came with it.

latent fern
#

oh okay cool

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that’s what i’m rocking rn

pastel vigil
#

I tried with and without, def liked with better, felt and sounded better. Even if it's placebo, I'll take it lol

latent fern
#

more foam in your keyb means less foam in your room collecting dust haha

ivory stratus
ivory stratus
latent fern
#

do the jades use long springs too

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?

pastel vigil
#

The springs on the jade are 20mm

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30g

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I'll have to crack one open and measure to confirm

harsh dove
pastel vigil
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I always assumed it's initial force

harsh dove
#

Iirc the AliExpress springs represent end force

latent fern
#

i feel like springs are based on Bottom force

pastel vigil
#

hmm

harsh dove
#

Basically jades are slightly heavier than L45s but lighter than Raptors by about 2g

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Raptors bottom out is 52g

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L45s is 45g

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Force travel graph for Jades

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Ends around 50

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Starts at 30ish

latent fern
#

one thing to note is that since jades bottom out earlier

harsh dove
#

Correct

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3.5mm

latent fern
#

that changes the bottom out force

pastel vigil
#

My box didn't come with that graph, that is so cool lol

latent fern
#

a L60 will give you 60g bottom force becuase it’s being compressed by 4mm

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if you put the same spring in a jade

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it won’t compress a full 4mm

pastel vigil
#

so it will feel softer?

latent fern
#

so the bottom out could like more like 58g

pastel vigil
#

That makes sense

latent fern
#

physics class coming in clutch haha

pastel vigil
#

That explains why I like stronger springs in my jades

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compared to my lekkers

harsh dove
#

Yes, essentially less force is needed to bottom out

latent fern
#

so my assumption is that the 62g springs i’m getting will actually bottom out at like 60g

harsh dove
#

On Jades

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Because of the reduced travel distance

latent fern
#

exactly

pastel vigil
#

i wish i had the tools to actually test the nitty gritty

latent fern
#

if you have a gram scale

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you could stack coins on the switch until it bottoms out maybe???

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with a flat enough keycap

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i think that’s what MakerMods does on youtube

pastel vigil
latent fern
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HAHAHA

pastel vigil
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shoulda kept that scale lmfao

latent fern
#

once my 62g springs come in i’ll see if i can measure

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FOR THE COMMUNITY!

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my mom got a scale i think

pastel vigil
#

We gotta do it for science

primal pollen
#

Am I right in remembering there is a lekker 2.0 and a lekker "pro" coming out? Do we know anything about the "pro" version?

latent fern
#

maybe ill revist the spring swap in the future

stray tiger
primal pollen
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Thanks!

stray tiger
#

Courtesy of over 500 chatgpt attempts....

fluid ravine
#

damn gotta pick up a sticker myself

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slap it on my forehead to show em who's boss

polar girder
#

Yeah I was just admiring that also

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Nice one

tropic hill
#

I realise this probably isn't the place to ask this, but has anyone ever printed a mouse shell in asa-areo? or really anything in it?

modern haven
#

👆

stray tiger
#

And it's not super great yet, I'm sure it will be soon. Version 3 is already leaps better than 2

untold wigeon
#

StableDiffusion offline is the best

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run it locally and download some models and youre set to make all the weird furry content your heart desires

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or whatever else you use AI for

stray tiger
stray tiger
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If you dont laugh then its not working

cedar gate
#

BTW that custom pfp looking bomb

cedar gate
stray tiger
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haha none taken

cedar gate
#

The latest generation will never understand how Marlon Brando and AL Pacino graced the camera

stray tiger
#

You want clack? Fuuuuggghetta bout it

cedar gate
stray tiger
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The Thockfather: Clack? Fuhgeddaboudit!

vale swan
placid blaze
stray tiger
vale swan
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well

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that looks stupid, but if it works it works

fluid ravine
vale swan
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i saw some guy on reddit make clicky jades

cedar gate
vale swan
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tbh

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call me crazy but

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those sound nice

fluid ravine
#

tbh it was interesting

vale swan
#

put that bitch in a oring or a frog/salvation with a pc plate and its perfect

fluid ravine
#

i didnt hate it at all

vale swan
#

all it needs is a solenoid and a buzzer

quiet bay
# vale swan those sound nice

Nah its crazy cause I made him a gmk67 with those clicky jade switches and then he said he wanted something clickier and somehow ended up wanting a razer huntsman mini with mx blues 💀

vale swan
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i meant the HE jades

quiet bay
#

how does that sound?

vale swan
#

like a clicky switch i guess

quiet bay
#

yee I wanna know what kinda pitch tho

quiet bay
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ok I like that click

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Its very quiet and soothing

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for a clicky switch

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I would actually use that for typing

vale swan
#

NK has some linear clickies for MX keyboards iirc

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could try that out

harsh dove
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Wooting Wooting Wooting Wooting Wooting

vale swan
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i have all of those besides the carrying case black pc plate and the cable

brazen sparrow
#

Two wootings???

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Wow

vale swan
#

ye

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well more like had I sold one

harsh dove
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What’s funnier is I have 4 pc plates

vale swan
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lmao

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why 4

harsh dove
vale swan
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What config of the 60he do you actually use right now

harsh dove
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Uhh rn I’m maining my Salvation x KS20u cause I need to do some minor tweaks to my Tofu x Jades config

vale swan
#

I see

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I use salvation 1 layer tape mod pc plate jades and GMK

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im still not sure what plate is the best for the salvation

harsh dove
#

Salvarion lol I love autocorrect

vale swan
#

PC is the quietest but has a meh spacebar, FR4 has a good spacebar but has way louder alphas and CF is just loud af

harsh dove
#

And I think I either have POM or PC in the tofu

vale swan
#

in the tofu with the o ring i liked CF is the best tbh

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tho keep in mind i dont use a deskpad

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the salvation does sound nicer with a deskpad tho imo

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I might pick up some KS20Us tbh

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they are relatively cheap atleast the white ones

quiet bay
vale swan
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I have 3 cases for it 😭

velvet egret
#

Anyone who lives in Netherlands have you had issues trying to pay douane kosten through ups? Keep getting error while paying error all data is required.

pastel vigil
#

Bro someone help me figure out these stabs ive been at it for too long 😭

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Its funny that they are all mostly sound bad on the left side 💀

vale swan
#

what stabs are these

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plate mount pcb mount or pcb clip ins

pastel vigil
#

Durock Screw Ins, which I put in because the prebuilt clip ins were terrible compared to the module’s screw ins on the other board

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Ironically they sound just as bad 😂

vale swan
#

those sound like plate mounts lmao

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like the unlubed ones

pastel vigil
#

I lubed it tf up

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Housing stem and wire

vale swan
#

what did you use

pastel vigil
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205 on the stem and housing

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And then grease for the wire

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Whatever alexotos recommended i forgot the name

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I even used the syringe after install to add some more and it feels like am using them stock 🥲

vale swan
#

you sure they are flush with the pcb and shit?

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also what switches are you using

pastel vigil
vale swan
#

the bandaid mod that sits on the pcb under the stab? I hated that for my screw ins

pastel vigil
#

I am using Raptors, actually happy with the sound of this board outside of the stabs. Sound isn't entirely accurate on recording because it's on my kitchen counter instead of on my desk lol

vale swan
#

this might sound crazy but use the spacebar as an example, take out the spacebar switch and actually lube it

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also make sure its properly sitting in

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see if theres a difference

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my lekker spacebar was rattling because of the switch being unlubed believe it or not

pastel vigil
#

I'm done messing around for the evening but I'll do that tomorrow after work and see if there's a diff

vale swan
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yeah try it

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you could also try the plastic wrap mod from alexotos

pastel vigil
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Oh whats that? don't think i've seen it before

vale swan
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I used this to fix my pbt spacebar popping off on the side with Jades

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it also fixed the ticking i had with that spacebar

pastel vigil
#

This is crazy but seems like the perfect solution if the rattle is from the stab stem

vale swan
#

its more of a keycap problem i think

pastel vigil
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the'yre gmks so Id hope it's not the keycap

vale swan
#

my GMK spacebar even after being taken in out for like 50 times is still pretty tight on the spacebar

vale swan
#

it could happen

pastel vigil
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rip

vale swan
#

for example all 3 of my 7u spacebars i own came warped(2pbt 1gmk)

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tho the gmk is the least offensive

pastel vigil
#

damn

vale swan
#

ye shit happens

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i will actually be checking for this specific thing when i buy my next gmk set

pastel vigil
#

smart

vale swan
#

nah not smart just curiousity

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my warped 7u spacebar doesnt tick or rattle the GMK one, the pbt ones tick like crazy

quiet bay
pastel vigil
#

I balanced them as per this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxHb6CJc9V8

Here is how I mod my stabilizers. I get asked this a lot of my streams and honestly, I figured why not just record this so I can link this video instead of having to re-explain it every time. I hope you enjoy it. Please remember this video is only covering lubing and installing, some stabs like cherry clip-ins, you'll need to clip the bottom leg...

▶ Play video
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Maybe I should put soem tape or something between them and the pcb

quiet bay
#

could make it feel mushy though but try it to see if it helps

pastel vigil
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If all else fails I could use other stabilizers

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Maybe finally try Owllabs, tbh am not the biggest fan of Durocks but all I have is TXs and those don't agree with the 60he lol

pastel vigil
#

Weirdly enough, when I just pressed the springs on their own, the lekker felt the softest even though it's bottom out force is the highest?

latent fern
#

i thought i would have trouble typing on a 50g spring but it feels fine

pastel vigil
#

There's something funky going on lmao

latent fern
pastel vigil
# latent fern some hidden magic going on haha

Yeah like maybe the material/weight of the housing or stem is making things feel different, because the springs tested outside the switches on their own is not the same as springs inside the switches when I wanted to test what was softest and what was hardest lmao

latent fern
#

how’d you test?

vale swan
pastel vigil
#

I also spring swapped all 3 with all 3 springs and the results were just even more confusing lmao

cursive wave
latent fern
#

maybe even better cuz its so easy to build

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no ribbon cables or anything

cursive wave
#

im new to this and need a keyboard soon cuz im using a nasty office wired keyboard

latent fern
#

akko cs ocean blue tactiles

cursive wave
latent fern
#

very cheap

cursive wave
#

i got another question

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whats the difference in a flex cut pcb and a non flex cut pcp

#

?

latent fern
#

the flex cut pcb has a boucier typing feel

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but doesnt sound as good

cursive wave
#

hmmmm

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what would you get

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which one do you have

latent fern
#

i have the non-flexcut

cursive wave
#

alr

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and what plate is best

latent fern
#

the holes on the flex cut let too much sound out i think

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so it could sound more thin

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but i guess you could tape mod over it and maybe fix it?

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i got both the alu and the pom

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tbh i dont really notice a difference between them

cursive wave
#

hm alr

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why tf is everything so expensive bro...

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like spending 300+ aud on a keyboard

latent fern
#

if you want something cheaper you could look at the monsgeek m1

cursive wave
#

btw

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is aliexpress worth buying parts from?

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or nah

latent fern
#

i think its worth

vale swan
latent fern
#

ktt roses were like 17$ for 90 at one point

cursive wave
vale swan
#

the only way i'd accept flexcuts is in something plateless with a lot of movement like the salvation

cursive wave
#

i had someone tell me they were a good buy

latent fern
#

ive only heard good things about aquakings

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the only complaint was the factory lube was kinda heavy

vale swan
cursive wave
#

this was the build i was looking at

vale swan
#

you could also try something HMX

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i would not get those keycaps

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especially with south facing leds

cursive wave
vale swan
#

something that has normal legends on it

cursive wave
vale swan
#

I'd look at pbtfans as they have some sets in the $40 area

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like that japanese one thats kinda dark gray

cursive wave
#

lemme check

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you guys got any bettwe option for switches that would be a popular choice in terms of linears?

latent fern
#

ktt roses

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kang whites

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gateron milky yellows

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akko jelly blacks

cursive wave
#

something that has a deeper sound profile

latent fern
#

ink blacks?

cursive wave
#

hmm alr lemme see

latent fern
#

i cant really think of thocky linears rn haha

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i like more poppy/clacky

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thats why i love my jades haha

cursive wave
#

any suggestions from what u like?

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im open to anything rllu

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rlly

latent fern
#

my fav linears are subuwus

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its a black cherry pie clone

cursive wave
#

alr

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lemme search those up

latent fern
#

idk if theyre in stock

cursive wave
latent fern
#

pleiades switches

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by zenclack

cursive wave
#

alr

latent fern
cursive wave
#

else i donty think they r in stock

latent fern
#

awww ):

cursive wave
#

anything else?

latent fern
#

its an old switch

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like from a year ago

cursive wave
latent fern
#

gateron yellows

cursive wave
#

ive heard sound tests

latent fern
#

budget switches are the best

cursive wave
#

they sound nice

latent fern
#

gat yellows are like my second fav linear

cursive wave
#

wth

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they cheap asf

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first search result

latent fern
#

try to look for the milky housing

cursive wave
#

alr

#

?

latent fern
#

yeah those

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i hear theyre better

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those are the ones ive tried personally

cursive wave
#

oh alr

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i might go for these

latent fern
#

theres a lot of good double shot pbt sets on aliexpress too

cursive wave
latent fern
#

i like those

cursive wave
#

they looked nice to me

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bro doing that shaved off $90 from the end price

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wth

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i had no ide what I was doing

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vtw

#

btw

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do the stableizers on the mongeekm1w come lubed

#

?

latent fern
#

nah im sure they have stab wires haha

cursive wave
#

idk what i was thinking

#

but

#

r they lubed?

#

from factory?

latent fern
#

not sure

#

i assume yes

cursive wave
#

alr

#

so it should be a pretty straight forward build

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just put switches in and keycaps and ill be done

latent fern
#

basically haha

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just watch monsgeek m1 vidoes

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and copy

cursive wave
#

istg idk why im so nervous

latent fern
#

building a keyboard is really fun

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just enjoy the process

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and dont go broke

cursive wave
#

i think ill be fine

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its my dad buying it for me

latent fern
#

youll do fine

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good dad

cursive wave
#

ong

latent fern
#

if you want you could get the cheaper gateron yellows

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i dont think it would make a HUGE difference in sound

cursive wave
latent fern
#

the milky ones were just the cheapest i could find on amazon at the time

cursive wave
#

so it should be fine

latent fern
#

just make sure to say thank you to your dad haha

cursive wave
#

the main expense is the keyboard

cursive wave
latent fern
#

whoa why is the M1 180$??

#

i thought it would be like 100$

cursive wave
#

not usd

latent fern
#

i assumed it would still be cheaper

cursive wave
#

im going for the m1w

latent fern
#

ohhhhhhhhhh

cursive wave
#

wireless variant

latent fern
#

im a silly american

cursive wave
#

final build:

latent fern
#

looking good dude

cursive wave
#

ty, you helped bro

latent fern
#

that build is gonna be awesome

cursive wave
#

first mechanical keyboard

latent fern
#

i would reccomend lubing the gat yellows if you can

cursive wave
latent fern
#

it makes a big difference for gat yellows imo

cursive wave
#

i got a friend who has some lube

latent fern
#

i rocked mine stock for a long time before i lubed them

cursive wave
#

krytox... something

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i dont remember

#

i could ask him

latent fern
#

krytox 205g)

cursive wave
#

ye that

latent fern
#

205g0*

cursive wave
#

he's got that

#

I could just ask him

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cuz he already has his endgame keyboard i think

#

idk the exact specifications

#

ik the switches tho

#

he's got oil kings

latent fern
#

Oooo expensive

cursive wave
#

ye

#

they sound rlly good

#

bro this server icon is a troll

latent fern
#

what board is it on?

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i hate it so much hahaha

cursive wave
cursive wave
latent fern
#

it was driving me nuts earlier

cursive wave
#

fr

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i restarted discord as fell

#

well

dapper kernel
#

April fools over but didnt change it back 💀

cursive wave
#

works

shell inlet
#

What screwdriver do I use ?

#

Ph-1?

pastel vigil
#

yup

shell inlet
#

My tofu came before my key caps from wooting 😭😹

sacred elm
#

can u somehow make jades to have 4.0mm travel ?

pastel vigil
#

use the bottom housing of another switch

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but at that point they are no longer jades

#

it being a long stem switch with a closed bottom housing is what makes jades jades

#

that exta 0.5mm is overrated

sacred elm
#

so different spring has nothing to do with travel right?

pastel vigil
#

i mean it will change how the travel feels

#

but the distance will be the same

sacred elm
#

aight thanks

pastel vigil
#

I personally like longer springs on the jades, gives you a lot of control over the entire range

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makes DKS easier to use

sacred elm
#

they are still on the way

#

cant wait to test them

pastel vigil
#

You are in for a treat, best feeling switches for sure

sacred elm
#

yea also 30/50 is perfect for me

grave plaza
#

did anybody who frankenswitched the raptor he with lekkers end up using films?

somber inlet
#

Starting another long term project (:

#

Basically the goal is to design a knock-off Stream Deck that snaps onto the top of the Two HE. Currently the plan is to use replacement parts from mixer boards like motor assisted faders, LED VU meters, and 0.6in 64x64 pixel OLED displays with a TBD switch below and acrylic to protect the display (perhaps later I can look into making knock-off key caps with the same methods used for custom artisan resin keycaps). So far I got about half the needed parts sourced, now I'm currently figuring out how I'm going to power, and control the inputs, most likely going to order something custom off PCB Way with an Arduino as the brain assuming it can handle that much. Really want to prototype a quick design of what it should look like, but it would pointless without having the parts in hand, and I really don't want to commit until I get all parts sourced. If anyone is interested in this project I can send you the parts I'm planning on using and some of the other sourced projects that use these parts.
Got the majority of the code/designs already sourced from open source projects which is great.

#

Currently looking at the GH page with the cad files for the TwoHE, anyone know why there is a Two and a Two HE?

little glen
#

Two used flaretech switches

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So, optical switches

somber inlet
#

so they are two different products? (:

little glen
#

Yes

#

Two he uses hall effect sensors

somber inlet
#

Ah neat

little glen
#

It is also the more modern one etc etc

somber inlet
#

yeah currently grabbing the cad files for the main body of the board

#

woah when did GH support viewing CAD files?

stoic robin
#

what are the best mods for wooting?

#

and where can i find them?

#

my 60he+ should be coming asap

#

what mods do you guys recommend?

weary tree
#

best imo is gummy oring mount and lubing

drifting bronze
#

What mods are worth doing on the wooting 60he + and is the tape mod worth it?

vale swan
#

tho in the tofu redux not so much

drifting bronze
#

I'm getting the stock case

vale swan
#

the alumaze and the salvation do benefit from this

drifting bronze
#

So the stock case to?

vale swan
#

you get the prebuilt

#

or the module

drifting bronze
#

Prebuild to not break the bank

vale swan
#

then nah

#

you cant really change the sound of it in the stock case unless you buy Jades

drifting bronze
#

And what mods are worth it

vale swan
#

swapping switches and lubing the stabs or changing them out for pcb mount stabs if you have issues

drifting bronze
#

Do the different switches change the performance

vale swan
#

no

drifting bronze
#

And does it sound okay out of the box or not

vale swan
#

to me no, but to you it might

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cant know until you try it

#

just dont think about it until you receive it and typed on it a bit

#

the only thing objectively you might need to do is relube the stabs if they rattle

drifting bronze
#

Yeah but I can only get the abs keycaps becouse I'm getting the iso layout in french

#

What do I need to relube

#

Does the sound from abs and pbt change that much

#

Becouse I am using the apex pro TKL right now

vale swan
#

it changes a lot

drifting bronze
#

And do you know where you can get pbt keycaps in french azerty

vale swan
#

i do not know how cheap abs does, but between pbtfans pbt and something like GMK pbt is much much deeper

vale swan
#

im not french

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@quasi topaz help him

quasi topaz
#

what

#

utilise aliexpress

#

aurevoir

vale swan
#

thats kinda rude

quasi topaz
#

im not here to be nice ⚔️

tidal dagger
#

oh man this looks great

still wraith
#

Is it worth it to burger mount the 60he+ module or can I just use the included Silicone stand-off protection stickers to achieve somewhat the same result?

vale swan
drifting bronze
#

So no mods then

little glen
#

No need

vale swan
drifting bronze
#

Ok

vale swan
#

you need to experience it yourself and see if you find any problems

#

then work from there

drifting bronze
#

Ok thx though

vale swan
#

yeah just come in this channel

#

when you need to

drifting bronze
#

but does it sound better then the apex pro tkl?

somber inlet
#

just found a complete cad model of the Stream Deck, yippee I dont have to buy one and return it to make my own. (cause that is not nice)

foggy iron
#

Do anyone know if there is a case with 4 degree typing angle other than the alumaze? My fav would be a tofu case with 4 degree

#

I just can’t find any and all 5 degree cases are not available lol

normal schooner
#

no I would get an alumaze

foggy iron
vale swan