🔧│keyboard_modding

[tawdry tree]

🥴

[untold wigeon]

Almost like if the pcb is warm the case will warm up

Crazy, right?

[fluid ravine]

it does

[untold wigeon]

yeah i know i was being sarcastic

[fluid ravine]

@median spade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CLlbXxd7I

[median spade]

That’s really good for stock cherry switches

[signal berry]

so i have a questrion

im currently typing this on my 60he and i was wondering if even modding this board is good

this board sounds nicely lubed up and i love the sound right now

i think the most that i'd do is get an aluminum case

[paper bloom]

if you like it the way it is then maintain it ig

[signal berry]

preciate that i wass gonna blow my savings on a bunch of lube annd polycarbnonatte plate and a whole bunch of stuf

[paper bloom]

Im literally doing that

I bought the 60HE+ with a tofu60 redux case

[signal berry]

LMAO

[paper bloom]

And got the L45 with wooting coiled cable

[signal berry]

typing on 0.l1 actjuhation is a struggle

[paper bloom]

Im waiting on it to ship

[paper bloom]

U will get used to it in a day or 2 or a week

[signal berry]

im missinig ketys like crazyt

[paper bloom]

Welp

[signal berry]

nice

[paper bloom]

U cld set it to

1.5

Or 1

And then use tachyon mode

[signal berry]

yeah im just toying arounjd in the settings for now

[paper bloom]

Nice

@signal berry If u do like wanna mod stuff tho u cld check wootings playlist for it but if u ask me If you like it the way it is then stay at it but you just gotta maintain the lubing and make sure to clean your keyboard every 8 months or so

[signal berry]

ok much appreciated

[paper bloom]

👍

[polar girder]

ok i need a black housing (just the bottom is ok) HE switch. LMK k thx

[tawdry tree]

Raptors? Wdym?

[fluid ravine]

are you getting jades?

you can swap out the bottom housing into a raptors, so you would have jade's top housing, stem, whatever spring, and raptor's bottom housing (trying to maintain the sound and tightness of the top housing and stem while having black bottom housing)

if you're a money spender

then ye

[polar girder]

Ohhh yeah I need top black then

Or clear would be fine I guess

Yeah my bad it’s the top housing I need diff. Whoops

Clear might be ok with the black plate tho

[polar girder]

Idk yet

Waiting a little bit before next switch

[fluid ravine]

mm

[polar girder]

For the clear PC top housing of jades

Yeah that’s nice

Over the red nylon of the raptors

But yeah I’ll wait until these double rail drop

Really waiting on a box stem fr

I don’t need to get every single one. I’ll wait until some more options drop and pick.

It is tempting to try them all tho lol

These franken raptors aren’t end game for me tho. I know that much.

[polar girder]

I’m definitely in 2 deep and would buy a full set for 1 part of it tho

Like if these parts keep being interchangeable, that’s when it gets really fun

[robust bluff]

Hello, if i want my wooting 60he to have "thocc" profile, what should i do? keyboard sounds "creamy" when i lubed it

[paper bloom]

There are many ways

stab lubing Tape mod Case filler mod Burger mounting

It depends on the thocc and how deep u want it

[maiden oasis]

does the 60he+ module comes with the same stock foam as the wooting 60he fully assembled?

[bronze grove]

It does not.

The stock foam is a two layer foam designed for the stock case.

Module comes with a thinner one designed with third party cases in mind.

[maiden oasis]

In this case, which foam should I use?

Im planning on using an tofu60 redux case

[bronze grove]

Use the foam that comes with the redux (if it does) or the one from the module.

[maiden oasis]

I a similar build to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv47LMQMXn8

and hes using stock foam

[bronze grove]

He really shouldn't.

[uncut musk]

Honestly id just use the one that comes with the module like mr anders is saying

the stock is too thick

[bronze grove]

The PCB needs a bit of air to breathe. I assume he's torn off the second layer of the stock case foam though.

[uncut musk]

yeah no way it fits with the double layer

also this is what comes with the redux, its extremely thin

[hearty sierra]

most people i see use the stock foam tear off the second layer

[hearty sierra]

would this foam be better for thocc

[maiden oasis]

is this foam better or worse?

[uncut musk]

im not entirely sure, but once i get my module some point next week i can test it and see

[maiden oasis]

ok, let me know how it goes

[wet hazel]

I'm using the foam from the module + thin layer of foam from redux, probably a bad idea but didn't have time to tweak and need the keyboard to work

[dire delta]

Guys any recommendations for Plate mounted stabs besides durock/everglide/jwk?

[dire delta]

Can't find a single shop in Europe with TX AP plate mount stabs :(

damn

[quick gulch]

I mean there isn’t really anything that wrong with that ones it comes with

[dire delta]

I f***ed my wires with an ultrasonic cleaner

[quick gulch]

Ah

Just grab some cherry ones then

[sand oasis]

https://www.serpentkeys.co.uk/products/tx-ap-plate-mount-stabilisers?variant=45134998077610 pretty sure these ship to eu

[dire delta]

yeah they do but the shipping cost is higher than the actual product :(

I'll wait till they are available in Europe, till then my wooting stays disassembled

[sullen salmon]

im in aus, i find different vendors offer significant cheaper prices to other opposed vendors

jus check a few n see if any of them have fair shipping prices

[dire delta]

SG seems relatively cheap compared to US but the German TAX will most likely screw me

MaxGaming has them listed but not in stock

gonna wait

[loud zephyr]

decent discount and in Germany; Gat stabs

https://keycapsss.com/keyboard-parts/parts/149/gateron-pre-lubed-plate-mounted-stabilizer

[sullen salmon]

bro I ordered gwteron jade he switches and now I can't find an email for them or log in

I only use the one email for everything online ordering and it's not on my gaming email either

fuckkk

gotta contact support

NVM wrong website found it 💀

[untold wigeon]

Are kraken keycaps good?

[glacial wind]

Another one for your list @stray tiger https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/WwrKZbX5GArZ - Oasis 75, claiming to be an 8k board that will be 12k eventually, but doesn't specify scanning as well

[obsidian dagger]

lmao

[stray tiger]

It says its an FR4 plate, so thats at least something new

[true pulsar]

Hey guys I want to gummy o ring mount the module in the tofu redux. What are the specs of the o ring that i need? (OD, ID & CS). The one on ringerkeys is out of stock right now but I don't know the specs of it. Also, which snap in stabs would you recommend for the o ring mount to work? I'm using ansi btw.
Thanks in advance 😊

[stray tiger]

The size medium ones from Graveshift work great (stay between 35a-65a). Any quality clip-in stabs will work.

[indigo oasis]

is kbd fans d65 good

[stray tiger]

Not for the Wooting

[indigo oasis]

i dont want it for the wooting

im asking if its good

[marble shuttle]

classic pcb uses via software

[stray tiger]

You might want to ask in the kbdfans discord. Its a discontinued board and since it doesnt work with Wooting products, this isnt the best place to ask.

[true pulsar]

Thanks. As I'm in Europe and the ones in the European store are out of stock, do you know which size the o ring has to be so i can order them from ali Express instead?

[stray tiger]

I do not, but someone else may.

[devout torrent]

there's lots of 8k boards right now

but afaik this one is 12k scnaning not polling

board looks pretty nice though

they currently sell their oasis 65 on their site internationally so this one should be available internationally

[austere creek]

cant have more than 8khz polling. iirc all usb specs are limited to 8khz

[devout torrent]

I think usb 3 can go higher

but never seen anything higher

oasis looks particularly interesting since it doesnt seem to share the same software all the other 8k boards seem to be using

unless its just reskinned

but htere are some stupid cheap like 80 dollar 8k He boards but idk if they are any good lol

dont seem too good

[glacial wind]

8k is mostly a lie, particularly for HE boards

you can do 8k polling fairly easily, but even some pricier mcu than is normally used for 8k scanning on mx boards struggle to do 8k on HE due to channels required

the tweet saying 12k scanning sounds like nonsense or a mistranslation from the manu because there aren't even 8k HE scan boards yet, much less 12k scan

[spiral canyon]

USB3+ doesn't poll synchronously anymore like USB2 does, so depending on how much and how fast data is sent it can achieve way over 8k
But is it really necessary at this point?

[devout torrent]

yeah most of the cheap boards advertise 8k polling

and tons of peopel get hype over that

but none of tthem talk about scanning

for obvious reasons

[glacial wind]

even geon's fancy mcu upgraded board is tapping out at 3k scanning with 8k polling

the channels required for HE just seem to severely limit scanning on a lot of MCU

[heavy ginkgo]

Corsair claims 4000Hz scan rate for their 8000Hz polling rate keyboards

[glacial wind]

that's their non he specs though is the thing

once a board becomes HE it's way harder to scan at the same rate. Geon's 8k scanning mx board only does 3k in HE switches for example

[devout torrent]

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/QqAO6oQJovlW

this is a pain in the ass to translate since you have to copy images

but this guy goes into things like mcu design that people use

but basically shows we dont even have particularly good testing for response times on HE boards

[glacial wind]

yep, a lot of the tests even the billi billi videos used scuffed tests

very questionable methods in a lot of the tests

[stray tiger]

BTW all of this is why when people start talking about Wooting alternatives and how they claim .1ms actuation and great scan rates and then you see reviewers come out and say that the points are no where near as good as the Wooting, it's because the manufacturers know that people really cant verify their claims.

This is the mature/dev factor that Wooting has that truly separates them from the competitors. Their firmware and software is miles ahead as well.

[median spade]

they can claim all they want, but just like their 4k mice that still can't hit even 2k

[glacial wind]

the worst is some of the billibilli tests i've seen do this thing where they just set it to a random setting in the keyboard manu software and tests the response for just inputting the key

they don't even check if all the keys are actuating at the same spot since manus label the .5 value and such with different tolerances

then you have like 4 keyboards all with different times with different lengths actually happening and they put it on a chart as if it's a proper test

[devout torrent]

let's also not forget recalibrating for heat/cold etc

or diff switch variances

[stray tiger]

"This test is totally scientific and accurate" Then proceeds to press the key with their finger and say "See how quickly my character stops moving on my screen"

[devout torrent]

thats not easy to test at all

I've talked to rakka abotu their old tester

and they have some new stuff in the works for tetsting HE boards

might be interesting

[stray tiger]

Keep us posted, I would love to know

[sharp yew]

na-clouds members rn

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[mental salmon]

@stray tiger have you tried the GMK MTNU profile? What do you think of it? Or do you have favorites profiles in your daily use? I only have used Cherry and MT3 so far

[stray tiger]

I haven't tried it but as a cherry lover I'm assuming it would be nice.

[true patrol]

Are you talking about testing the actuation distance? Or about testing rapid trigger response time?

Both are not that hard to test, even basic stepper motors are accurate to .1mm and slo-mo cameras can easily show RT response as long as multiple boards are being compared while connected to the same system

[coral prawn]

yo guys, i've ordered Gateron Magnetic Jade switches for my Wooting 60HE(been enjoying it for almost a year ). Could you please recommend me any good stabs for Jades(since travel distance of those switches is 3.5mm)? I've thought about AP TX Long Pole, but they're unavailable in my country 😵‍💫

[true patrol]

I don't think there's such a thing as good stabs for a specific switch. there are just good stabs and bad stabs

[coral prawn]

yh you're right, but the travel distance is the issue

[sacred jay]

idk if actual physical travel of the jades is 3.5

[coral prawn]

3.5 +- 2mm they say

[sacred jay]

because 3.5 could just be listed bottom out

[sacred jay]

yep

[true patrol]

why would that be an issue

[sacred jay]

its actually physically 4

[true patrol]

they are not the first 3.5mm travel switches anyway

and if the stabs don't reach the bottom of their travel because the switch stops, nothing bad happens

[sacred jay]

thats talking about actuation, useful range, all that

you should be fine with normal stabs

[coral prawn]

I see, so u think i'll be good with stocks

okay okay, thanks for your opinions guys

[true patrol]

yes stock stabs will work just fine
there are definitely options that are better, but the stock ones won't cause issues with the switches working

[uncut musk]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[coral prawn]

ye i've read that

but i'm not into stabs, so i've asked which long-pole stabs should i buy except ap tx long pole

[stray tiger]

If you read it then you know you probably don't need new stabs at all

[devout torrent]

anyone know the stock wooting front height?

[bronze grove]

Wooting is not a product, it is a brand.
Which board/case?

[devout torrent]

sorry, I meant the 60He

front height of the case itself if anyone knows

I think alumaze it's posted but the front height is with keycaps or something

[tame vessel]

Out of curiosity, couldn't you also adjust for the issue with the jade switches and default stabs by layering a bandaid mod?

[coral prawn]

my friend sometimes faces the issue of the space bar popping off. Yes, as you said it's a really rare situation. However, if there're no any long pole stabs recommendations, then i'll use default stabilizers. Thanks for your time

[stray tiger]

Read the post again and try using the o-rings on the stem to prevent the spacebar from coming off.

[coral prawn]

yep, he ordered o-rings and they will be delivered tmrw

[stray tiger]

I'm just trying to save you money. That's my ultimate goal.

[coral prawn]

I understand it, I can only be thankful to you

[true patrol]

you could, but your stabs would be wildly mushy at that point and would probably feel terrible

[tame vessel]

Fair, hadn't thought about the mush

[glacial forum]

does the keyboard "Space" stabilizer face up or down. THis is for a Wooting Two HE, it seemed down when I pulled it apart but looking at videos from the 60 it faces up. Any differences?

[dull thicket]

Another question that has probably been asked a thousand times but....is it detrimental to use switch pads on analogue switches such as the lekkars, does it drastically affect the performance in any way ?

[stray tiger]

User preference. Lots of people run their spacebar upside down.

[stray tiger]

Detrimental, no. Recommended? Also no. If you want them be sure to use very thin ones that dont compress when pressing down on them

[glacial forum]

Do the right edges of the keys with stabilizers tend to sound a little different then the rest of the key?

[dull thicket]

Thanks 👍

[stray tiger]

Sometimes yes, especially near the PCB mounting points.

[glacial forum]

Appreciate the feedback. Finally just lubed my switches/stabilizers for the first time and man what a difference lol. No more high pings

[snow kayak]

Is there a list of 60HE compatible Stabilizers? IIUC travel distance and Unit-Length are most important, followed by any preference as far as any force on the stab springs

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[bleak steeple]

wait out of curiosity why do people run their spacebar upside down?

[stray tiger]

The usual answer is that they hit the spacebar with the side of their thumb and when its upside down the angle is less sharp and feels better on their thumb

[bleak steeple]

ohh i see, that makes sense.

thanks for the info though!

im really happy, my wooting parts come in early next month 😎

[bleak steeple]

it’s also gonna be my first keyboard build, my keycaps alr came in

[stray tiger]

Well be sure to come back and let us know if you have any questions and show some pics when its done.

[bleak steeple]

ohh yeah, that makes sense, although i don’t think i could do that, everything’s gotta look right to me, and it seems a bit wonky to me but that’s only because i like things to look the way they should if that makes sense

[stray tiger]

Aesthetic OCD. Its a curse I share too 🙂

[bleak steeple]

of course! i’m doing a lavender alumaze case and cannon esper keycaps with the L45’s on the 60HE+ module

it’s gonna be sick

[bleak steeple]

ah yes indeed.

[stray tiger]

I like the Espers. I ended up selling mine but still have Sugerplum also which I think would look great too

[bleak steeple]

ouuu, that’s nice, yeah the espers caught my eye with the purple white and grayish keycaps, they’re really pretty

[bleak steeple]

i don’t think i’ve seen the sugar plum ones

do you have a pic of those caps? or a link?

ah wait i think i found em

[stray tiger]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-sugarplum

[bleak steeple]

yeah they look nice too

ouuuu

yes yes, although i’m not really a fan of the purple on black, i like the look that the esters have on the left and right sides of the keycaps

https://cannonkeys.com/products/cannoncaps-esper

the grey just looks super good with the purple

[bleak steeple]

although this build itself is sick too, i like it

yeee, those keycaps work super good with that case, with the lavender alumaze i think the espers fit it best

[median spade]

so when we getting module with oring cuts for unikorn and other boards

[bleak steeple]

that i’m not sure, i think i heard something about that though

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-will-smith-gif-18323173

[bleak steeple]

my memory is bad so don’t quote me on that, do you know anything about that?😭

[stray tiger]

I know nothing about that, thats why I was like hmm? 😆

You can already gummy mount the 60HE in a fiction fit configuration

[bleak steeple]

yeah no i might not be thinking about the wooting 😭 im not super solid when it comes to that info, i know very little about keebs so all the info really just merges into my brain as one sometimes 😭

[median spade]

yeah but that's totally different tbh

then having dedicated cutouts for posts and stuff

[stray tiger]

Yes but with dedicated cut-outs, then you cant do a normal tray mount, so you're asking for a specific PCB that Wooting couldnt use with their current cases and would only support a single mounting type.

[median spade]

nah the pcb can have cutouts and then holes for tray mount too

already have them in the customs world

as you can see here

[stray tiger]

Those holes are typically oversized so that if your case does have standoffs it doesnt hit the standoffs.

[median spade]

would literally just be adding cutouts to the pcbs already made

[stray tiger]

Yeah that style PCB would hit the standoffs in all the current 60HE cases if you wanted to gummy mount it

[median spade]

What?

in what way

this literally works in a tofu so would work in the standard case lol

[stray tiger]

So you can gummy mount it in a tofu and the non-removeable standoffs on the edge of the case doesnt hit the PCB? How does that work?

[median spade]

The same way it does now it would just friction fit in the case

[stray tiger]

...

[median spade]

if the case doesn't have the necessary posts to go through, unikorn, bakeneko, etc it wouldn't do anything

[stray tiger]

Correct, but the 60HE cases DO have those non-removeable standoffs unlike a Unikorn, so just adding edge cutouts would mean your board kits the standoffs, defeating the purpose.

[median spade]

you are meaning these

is that correct?

[stray tiger]

If you really want to know what a proper 60% gummy PCB should look like, google the Merro60 PCB

[median spade]

I know exactly what that is

and tha'ts not a proper one

thats one made for a tofu

Adding cutouts for unikorn posts would literally not change anything I have no clue what you're talking about lol

[stray tiger]

OK Im going to stop here because I cant seem to keep up with your conversation.

[median spade]

so this is unikorn right

[stray tiger]

Yes. No permanent standoffs

[median spade]

coutouts would be for this

would simply be added to the pcb and not interfere

[stray tiger]

OK, now add in the standoffs in the other locations

[median spade]

yeah you mean these

come on discord

there we go that was weird

[stray tiger]

You missed 2 of them. The 2 silver ones

[gleaming crane]

Does anyone know of any long springs that work on lekkers/he compatible switches?

[stray tiger]

And the bottom spacebar one

[median spade]

nothing would change

h60 is a pcb that uses these

and has holes for unikorn

can use it in tofu, and others have, for ever with no issues

these are the normal tray mount holes

[snow kayak]

I looked through there but I couldn't find something specifically for Stabs, I was hoping for a compatibility list like cases have

[median spade]

merro60 was made to turn tofus, fjell, klippe, etc into as close of unikorn style as possible. With the unikorn cutouts you would just be able to use it in a unikorn, and then can use it in a wooting csae, etc like how it is now

[loud zephyr]

Didn't you say the Frog Mini wasn't worth it over the Tofu60, and now you wanna use a Unikorn. I think you'll be sorely disappointed if you're chasing the refined clack of the Korn

[median spade]

I would want to use it with cases I already have on hand that collect dust is why

[stray tiger]

Let me help fill in some blanks for you. The Merro60 PCB was created to turn those cases into a true gummy mount style like the Unikorn by not only providing the edge cutouts but by ALSO making the tray mount holes larger so thats the PCB's dont hit the standoffs on cases like the the mekanisk, tofu, and yes even the Wooting cases.

And I actually own 2 of the Merro60's

[median spade]

I"m not chasing the refined clack as HE woont' do that and I have my main board which uses unikorn layouts with oring and mx blacks so im aware it won't sound good lol

I just have bakenekos it would be nice to use for example

[median spade]

I understand this

but with the unikorn cutoiuts nothing would happen on regular ones

[loud zephyr]

Ahh classic recycling of keyboard collection, fair enough

[median spade]

there is not posts in wooting, tofu, etc that it would past through

[devout torrent]

Theres someone here that cut his wooting PCB

[stray tiger]

The Merro60 was designed for the exact purpose youre asking for. You cant just add the edge cutouts, you NEED the larger standoff holes or it defeats the purpose on cases with permanent standoffs like the 60HE

[median spade]

Yeee

[devout torrent]

To work with cutouts

[devout torrent]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1169726936805806171

[median spade]

That's awesome

Maybe if I feel up to it I'll dremel

[median spade]

You missed the point

if you were to take an H60 pcb with oring and put it in tofu

it would not use any on off the standoffs at all right now

because they dont' exist like on a unikorn, bakeneko

no contact will be made with posts or anything becasue it would jsut sit ther like how it does now

[stray tiger]

Wait are you confusing the tray mount standoffs for the gummy mount ledges?

[median spade]

No I'm not confusing

I'm saying the gummy mount ledges don't exist in tofu so you wouldn't have to worry about contact with standoffs because they don't exist in wooting or tofu

so if you add the cutouts for oring gummy nothing changes

[devout torrent]

I think he's talking about the GH60 standoffs

those woulud touch in some cases

even if you oring mount

right?

[median spade]

That's what thockfother is saying

[stray tiger]

Yes, like the Wooting cases, mekanisk, Tofu etc

[devout torrent]

not the ledge standoffs that would be gone

[median spade]

But if you used a oring, and then had a unikorn style wooting pcb

and then put it in a wooting stock case or tofu

it won't touch anything really as the standard tofu 60% tray mount holes don't line up

[stray tiger]

Yes they would. All of the GH60/DZ60 standoffs not on the edge of the case, would hit the PCB everytime it flexed down.

[median spade]

It's okay we can stop the discussion as I know you're not understanding at this point haha

[stray tiger]

Im not sure how to better explain it to you and I even explained to you that this exact issue is what the Merro60 was created. Then I showed you pictures of mine personally to confirm.

[devout torrent]

I think he's ritght tho

standoffs even if thgey dont line up would touch bottom of pcb

[stray tiger]

I know Im right. Its not even a question

[median spade]

No, you're not

[stray tiger]

and I know it because Ive done it and tried

[median spade]

think about it now okay

If you take the current wooting pcb, throw an oring around it, and hten put in tofu what happens?

[stray tiger]

It floats above ALL standoffs if its friction fit

[median spade]

It gets stuck on sides because of friction mount yes as doesn't have proper standoffs?

And that would still continue with unikorn holes

Becaue the case would lack the holes

[devout torrent]

but you still touch the standoffs

[stray tiger]

Negative. It would now rest on the ledges and become very bouncy which is the entire point of traditional gummy mount.

[median spade]

It would do the exact same thing it does now

Yeah okay im done you don't understand lol

[devout torrent]

he's talking about a tofu case

which would not have the ledges

but either way

it still touches the GH60 standoffs

[crimson sky]

unikorn pillars are taller than the points you screw onto in a tofu

[stray tiger]

Im done. It will touch the standoffs unless you widen the mounting holes. period. Merro60 solves this problem and its why it exists

[devout torrent]

so basically if you have gummy oring case like unikorn the wooting pcb would touch those ledges so defeats purposes and also might cuase problem

[median spade]

No

[devout torrent]

but if you oring mount a tofu or gh60 compatible case you still touch the GH60 mounting points

[median spade]

that's the whole point

it fricition mounts now and does literally nothing

[devout torrent]

the wooting doesnt have cutouts for the ledges tho

[polar girder]

y'all tripping

[median spade]

Yes that's my point

So you have the cutouts for c ase that does support it great it then use the unikorn pillars

If not it's literally the same expereicne now

Just sitting there friction fit doing nothing

[crimson sky]

rec0nkill even dremeld those cutouts onto his PCB lol

[devout torrent]

I think everyone understands the same point

but we're all confusing ourselves

so youre saying if you dont have cuotust you know it touches

but its basically like tray mount

[crimson sky]

[devout torrent]

I guess?

[crimson sky]

requires a custom case for those pillars tho

[median spade]

Yeah I'm saying if you add the unikorn holes like above to the PCB nothing changes putting it in normal 60% tray mount like the GH60 or Wooting stock case

[stray tiger]

Thats what he doesnt understand. Those standoffs arent removeable on the wooting cases so just adding edge cutouts on the PCB doesnt solve the problem of the PCB hitting the standoffs.

[crimson sky]

you don't need to support every feature in the default case though

it costs basically nothing to add the feature in the design

[stray tiger]

Correct you dont. But my very first reply was that he wanted wooting to modify their current PCb for something that wouldnt make any difference in any of their current cases.

[median spade]

And I clarified exactly what Yama jsut said

It would cost nothing to add holes for other cases

You missed that way back before trying to correct me on something you didn't understand

[stray tiger]

What you missed is that adding those edge cutouts mean that wooting loses 3 of the 5 existing screw-in points. It DOES affect current Wooting cases

[median spade]

It literally loses nothing

[devout torrent]

which 3?

becuase the ledges are taller than the standoffs

[stray tiger]

What ledges on the wooting case are you talking about? If you cutout for the sides as an example you immediately lose those 2 mounting points. Look at the photo

[median spade]

Okay so this is where I think you're getting confused

I never said to do merro60 cutouts

[crimson sky]

you literally do not need those cutouts

[median spade]

I said unikorn

[devout torrent]

ya you dont need those

so those wouldnt be reuqired for unikorn

[median spade]

this is a pcb that supports tray mount like standard wooting now and unikorn

see the two holes on left and right for mounting? Still there

[stray tiger]

So you want a PCB modification only for a Unikorn and not for other guymmy mount cases like you asked originally?

[median spade]

....

Yes

that was the whole point lol

It changes nothing for current support and allows for unikorn style to work

[real verge]

Hey, can i just buy aftermarket stabiliser for the 60he? And if it works which would be good because i dont have them anymore

[median spade]

other boards being bakeneko

my julie60

etc

all that use only unikorn posts

[crimson sky]

(btw bak derivatives are also swapping towards unikorn posts)

[median spade]

Nice

[stray tiger]

So you want a custom PCB to support the Unikorn specific mounting style.

[median spade]

Or just adding the holes to the standard one like the pcb I showed above

[devout torrent]

I think the idea is add rthe cutouts top/bottom

[median spade]

which changes nothing for standard users, and adds mounting holes for unikorn style users

[devout torrent]

so you can use cases that support unikorn style mounts

[median spade]

^^

[devout torrent]

everything else would remain same

[loud zephyr]

Fucking lol, why stop there, make adjustments to accomodate the Arc60 while we're at it

[stray tiger]

Thats different than saying gummy cutouts in general though.

[median spade]

Another example ye

The merro60 cutouts aren't really normal

it was a one time thing for tray mount cases

it's super cool and awesome but not standard

The unikorn posts are pretty standard at this point for pcbs

[stray tiger]

The Merro60 cutouts make its compatible with every 60% tray mount case that has permanent standoffs. That was why it was created.

[median spade]

Correct, but it's for tray mount stuff

The unikorn one adds support for Unikorn Pillar style cases and maintains current mounting points for Tray mount cases

[stray tiger]

bak derivatives?

[devout torrent]

bakeneko 60

[median spade]

Ciel for example

he just means cases derived from the bakeneko

[stray tiger]

I have a derivative

Oh he didnt literally mean Derivative keyboard

[median spade]

that's why this whole time I was referencing htis pcb haha

[devout torrent]

btw I dont see any discussion on this

[median spade]

this is exactly what i was meaning for wooting

[polar girder]

so my friction mount in the redux is resting on the perimeter ledges??

[devout torrent]

but there is a gasket mount case for wooting someone made

https://booth.pm/ja/items/5202371

[gaunt linden]

After using o ring on my board and a keebmat i see that there is some play between the usbc port and the cable Bc it hangs a little since there is some height, will that damage my usbc port? (Im using wooting’s new cable, the straight one)

[median spade]

it's really just so tight it floats essentially

[polar girder]

Yeah i was hoping that was part of the deal is that it wasn't touching anything

guess i have no way of checking really lol

[median spade]

correct unless you were to push down super hard

Proper cutouts mean when you push it down the oring then rests on the posts/pillars

[stray tiger]

Yes and what Ive done is add 4 small silicone pads in the bottom corners of my cases that are slightly higher than the standoffs so that if it does drop or get pushed down it lands on those instead of hitting the standoffs

[devout torrent]

this is big brain

[polar girder]

Nice. yeah i think the redux came with little ledge pads. i'll throw them on when i install teh module. ty

[devout torrent]

what kind of pads?

[median spade]

could go even thinner and just use tape fore xample

[devout torrent]

I need to get some

[median spade]

Can be any non conductive material really

if you have tape just put that already

[devout torrent]

cool cool

[stray tiger]

One of those will sit like 1/2 a mm higher than the standoffs.

[median spade]

Yeah that's why you can just use tape, thin foam, etc if you dont' want a height increase from adding stuff

since it will increase the height like this

[polar girder]

I have to get my final list together before I swap to module

[halcyon obsidian]

idk what yall are talking about but just a demel to the pcb

any pcb can have gummy mount cut outs if you take a dremel to it

[devout torrent]

btw do you have a ukikorn

or are you trying to use in another similar case

[median spade]

Similar case in this instance

I sold my unikorn like dummy and regretted it ever since

[devout torrent]

ooooof

[median spade]

But at this point I now have my wooting in frog mini so it would just be for comparison sake

[median spade]

I'm working up the courage after seeing the thread/post

worst case I buy a new module amirite

[halcyon obsidian]

idk its scary but as long as ur careful it should come out mostly still working

for me personally imma just stick with like the tofu and polyfill

for the "flex" feeling

[median spade]

I probably wont do anything more honestly as my current frog mini build is as good as I'm going to get until we have some revolutionary change in HE stuff

[median spade]

@loud zephyr But yeah was going to say earlier I know nothing HE (currently at least) will ever touch the refined sound of Unikorn for HE , but it would be just to see if it does any better than Frog Mini etc. That thread sharkosaur shared seem pretty great for their bakeneko

[tawdry tree]

64HE https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1196356399437983794

[median spade]

Yeah we’re at a weird point where wooting users has gone from being only gamers who don’t care about layouts as much. To now the custom side too where would be great to add additional layouts for those of us who want it

Would love to see a Tsangan pcb, 7u bottom row, that 64he you linked me, etc

Standard 6.25u ansi kills me inside everyday

[marble shuttle]

If you change frog mini i will come to your house😡

[devout torrent]

I am getting a bakeneko style board made as well

but with tray mount points

kinda dumb tho lol but looks nice

dont wanna cut my pcb

[median spade]

[marble shuttle]

🫡

[median spade]

understandable as aesthestics are half the hobby tbh

[devout torrent]

yea frog mini looks good too

but sounds kinda meh

[median spade]

I would love my frog mini more as I think the design of it is better shown in wkl personally, but it's still p good

But yeah sound wise was a tad let down it is what it is tho

[devout torrent]

yeah it looks best in wkl for sure

[median spade]

I know most dont' like it here, but I preferred the tofu i had before this aethestically haha

for standard no wkl

[devout torrent]

I have a freebird60 on the way too

I like the looks of that one quite a bit

especially since it has quite thin bezels

[fallow burrow]

It fits PERFECT into the ducky mecha mini case !

🥰🥰🥰

[tawdry tree]

Another Mecha Mini enjoyer, welcome!

[fallow burrow]

I didnt believe that the USB c Port will fit so nicely 🤣

[median spade]

[tawdry tree]

Same but was very happy when it did fit nicely.

[gaunt linden]

After using o ring on my board and a keebmat i see that there is some play between the usbc port and the cable Bc it hangs a little since there is some height, will that damage my usbc port? (Im using wooting’s new cable, the straight one)

[stray tiger]

Send a photo

[tawdry tree]

Thoughts? Am I cookin’ or am I cooked?

[stray tiger]

Depends on the question

[tawdry tree]

Triple split is optional of course, split enter is not however.

[tawdry tree]

As a general layout, would you use it, would you like or dislike it?

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt use it personally but there is already a similar standard layout without a split enter, which I also wouldnt want.

I actually have a 60% board with that configuration and it works great

[tawdry tree]

Yeah I based it off of a 64%.

What hinders you when you’d use this layout?

[tawdry tree]

This one isn’t a “64%”, the one with 2U left shift and “?” is.

[stray tiger]

Retraining a split spacebar would be the biggest challenge, unless you assign all 3 key to be a spacebar and finding non-standardized keycaps for those. Those keycap expansion kits for the 40's are expensive

[scarlet blaze]

Holy Heckin Shine Through Batman!
Glorious!

[tawdry tree]

3rd party keycaps for any non standardized layout are quite difficult to comeby but split space would be optional, what are your thought on 1U Right Shift and Split Enter?

[stray tiger]

1u right shift wouldnt be a big hurdle personally as I use left shift 90% of the time. Enter may take a while as thats more muscle memory with the pinky and would false type quite a bit for a while

[tawdry tree]

Interesting, I think it’d take me ages to get used to 1.25U enter but I do like Insert.. 🤣

Last thing, have you used a -0.25U offset ZXCV row keyboard before?

[stray tiger]

No, Im too much of a creature of habit to change up key placements for alpha rows

[loud zephyr]

Looks like a cluttered mess especially the bottom right hand side

4 spacebars though

[tawdry tree]

How did you use this though? #🔧│keyboard_modding message

No ?

“?”

[tawdry tree]

🤣🤣 I like the arrow keys and split space is optional ofc

[loud zephyr]

The improvements would be marginal at best, I imagine

[stray tiger]

Delete is just fnc backspace like the 60HE

[tawdry tree]

This is cursed.

[loud zephyr]

You don't need arrow keys, just use your mouse

[tawdry tree]

Go back to playing fortnite kid. 🤣

[tawdry tree]

Was it actually usable?

With ? all the way over there

[loud zephyr]

Ok, dad

[stray tiger]

Of course its useable. I use ? more often than delete so I just replaced that key function. Especially since I'm already used to fn backspace as delete anyway

[tawdry tree]

I mean the location

[median spade]

One day we will have good sounding HE, one day

[tawdry tree]

Your pinky isn’t normally all the way over there, or at least not how I type.

[devout torrent]

no split shift causaing ? to be on the very right is so fkn cursed

[median spade]

Love putting my mx black build in frog, it sounds amazing, and then I put my wooting back in and it's like

[stray tiger]

Tell that to KBdfans, its their layout https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60rgb-wkl-hot-swap-pcb

[median spade]

Waiting for my jades tho for final just giving up

[devout torrent]

cursed af

[tawdry tree]

That’s just split shift no?

Split shift is just normal to use, ? on the far right would be incredibly hard for me to get used to.

[stray tiger]

Like I said, its their layout not mine.

[devout torrent]

they made it cursed af

[tawdry tree]

Didn’t you find it difficult to use - unusable?

From ANSI to that

is pretty far out

literally 😂

[stray tiger]

Well of course its a learning curve, just like with the changes on your mock-up above. Anytime you move/shift/change a key there is a learning curve. Hell our entire current alpha layout (QWERTY) is inefficient but you hardly see anyone switching to COLEMAK because it requires a learning curve

[fluid ravine]

Hi pops
I'm home

[stray tiger]

Colemak

[tawdry tree]

Haha yes ofc but a smaller left shift or ? in an entire different location where I personally wouldn’t be able to reach it easily is a bit different I think.

[loud zephyr]

Nah, you gotta learn to appreciate the Wooting(stock or not) and stop comparing it to what you already have. Sounds like you should have just kept your Korn and turf everything else. Unlucky, blud

[scarlet blaze]

@tawdry tree is pushing this agenda all over the server 😛

[median spade]

Nah I have my korn replacement from a private GB so been good on that as well as have a F1-8X and Haus, but I just love oring clack and think I’ll just have to go for something different on wooting

My mistake was modding wooting 60 he at all as I used it stock with gmk for a year before modding

Should have never started

[heavy ginkgo]

are the LEDs in the 2HE North or South-facing?

[bronze grove]

North on all of our keyboards

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmq50Fg9gdM oml @quiet bay

Switches are made the same materials as the ks-20

but they're just normal

obv

heh

[jagged sand]

just to double check, this is definitely the one compatible with the wooting 60 module?

www.gateron.com/products/gateron-magic-jade-switch

thanks

[fluid ravine]

yes

[loud zephyr]

bro what is that caveman way pulling the case apart

looks ok though

[jagged sand]

right excellent

[loud zephyr]

the last words of every addict

[stray tiger]

Crazy how cheap boards are getting

[median spade]

Did good for 2 years and then started modding wooting. Look at me now smh

Think imma just go back to my tofu and sell frog tho tbh

[jagged sand]

hmm anyone know for any discount codes for gateron/wooting/kbdfans

[median spade]

Dats nice

[loud zephyr]

sell both and get the Holy60. move to france and grate cheese

[median spade]

That holy60 is uhhh something else

[loud zephyr]

it's wild

[median spade]

Can’t wait till people get and hate on sound because it’s open chassis

Cool design tho but not for me

[quiet bay]

for 70 bucks that sounds pretty nice 😮

[fluid ravine]

it sounds amazing for 70 bucks man

[fluid ravine]

fr

[fluid ravine]

its AmAzInG

[neat spear]

has anyone done both the gummy o-ring mod and the pc plate? I'm having issues where the after stuffing the assembly into the case, the backspace stabilizer starts jamming, probably due to the pressure of the o-ring on the stab and the pc plate allowing the stab to flex a little

[fluid ravine]

yes plenty of us have

what 60he board do you have?

[tiny flint]

what coiled cable works for the custom 60 HE besides the wooting one? at 50 dollars I cannot justify

[loud zephyr]

I think the problem with such a radical design is there are no matching keycaps to compliment the Holy60. Maybe something similar to this could work but then becomes more of a centerpiece imo

[static tendon]

Eh wooting isn't really known for it's sound signature so I think it fits the module very well

[static tendon]

Yeah that looks awesome, definitely unique

[polar girder]

cooked

[polar girder]

yeah this is fire tho

[static tendon]

What case is that? Frog Mini right?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[static tendon]

Is Winkey the version with all the keys?

[devout torrent]

Ya

But you need custom plate to use it

So don’t forget to get that too

[static tendon]

Where can you get the custom plate? Is it off some other site?

[devout torrent]

you'd have to get it cut somewhere

there's a plate file in the discord somewhere

[median spade]

if you're US I have a silver one with pom and alu plate probably going to put up for sale in near future just as food for thought

[devout torrent]

only downside is i hear frog mini doesnt sound great

but interested ngl

[median spade]

Here is my sound test one second

this was with the pom plate

60a tadpoles

[static tendon]

Sounds good. Appreciate the update. Unfortunately silver doesn't match anything I have so it's unlikely I'd go for that color

[devout torrent]

purple is the one I have considered

but havent pulled the trigger yet

[glad geyser]

Anyone have tips to fixing an inconsistent spacebar? whenever i inject dielectric grease into the stab the rattle will go away for a little bit but it doesnt take long for it to come back...

[median spade]

Do you have tape on the plate to make it tighter around the stabs

[glad geyser]

no just using the PC plate as is

[median spade]

yeah put some thin masking tape around the stablizers area to make it tighter

[glad geyser]

do u have a pic handy i could see as an example?

[median spade]

see the tape at the bottom

timestamp for you: https://youtu.be/tkD57ODLY8I?si=ZBziJ7Ci-db7Q1cW&t=300

[glad geyser]

oh i see that little tiny strip

on the very bottom

[static tendon]

@fierce void or @harsh dove does the typing angle of the salvation ever feel too steep at the 7.5 degree angle?

[glad geyser]

its funny u mention this because I noticed how little force it took to place and remove my space bar stabs compared to my others

[median spade]

yeah it's all luck of the draw and tolerances if you get a tight plate

this helps with that

[glad geyser]

thanks boss

[median spade]

np

[quiet bay]

damn in my case all the wooting stabs were tight as hell

[lavish flax]

Module arrived just now!! woooh 🎉 💯

[loud zephyr]

[static tendon]

Oh nice! If you don't mind where are you located to have received it so soon?

[median spade]

my mods were tight on pc plate, but right side spacebar was a little loose

with stock stabs

tx ap stabs everything is tight no matter what

[lavish flax]

Philippines

Also I am @daring umbra (that account kept being token logged so made a new account)

[lavish flax]

what artisan keycap is that? 😍

[harsh dove]

Not for me personally, no

[loud zephyr]

1 Keys R4 Height Skeleton ESC on Ebay

[fluid ravine]

gah damn

[sand plinth]

yooo what do we do with the plate foam that comes with the 60he+??

i probs sound hella stupid for not knowing

[devout torrent]

you can use it if you want to

[sand plinth]

use it where

[devout torrent]

which foam are you referring to me

[sand plinth]

the foam with the squares in it

[loud zephyr]

goes in between the plate and pcb

[sand plinth]

so i had to unscrew the pcb from the plate just to add that

in the middle gg

[loud zephyr]

well, you can try without foam, I personally don't use one

that shit belongs in a body pillow

[hearty sierra]

the module comes with silicone preinstalled so u could keep that

[bleak steeple]

silicone for clack and foam for thoccc

[sand plinth]

last question, does using an off brand coiled cable increased the risk of defects with tachyon mode on??? rn my cable is working fine but when i have a lot of apps open certain keys dont work anymore and i assume thats bcos my cable isnt supplying enough power right

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[lavish flax]

Help! 😅

[jagged sand]

Jade users... would you reccomend getting the lekkers and changing the springs over or??

[glacial wind]

you don't need to do that unless you specifically want a different spring weight

[jagged sand]

yeah I was just wondering if they were too light

[glacial wind]

jades are already around 50-52g end force, which is between L45 and L60

the 30g or whatever force it lists is only initial actuation force, which is very different from end force

[jagged sand]

Ahh I seeee

I'll probably save the money then although £17.5 for lekkers isnt bad

thanks

[sand plinth]

is it abnormal that even with the stock cable that comes with the 60he+ that when i use tachyon mode half my keys dont work?

[bronze grove]

Yes it is

[true patrol]

the fact that you said "even with" suggests you've tried multiple cables

if so, have you tried multiple USB ports?

[sand plinth]

no i have not i shall try that now]

[true patrol]

also try turning the rgb all the way down and see if the problem persists, to figure out if it's a power draw issue

[sand plinth]

oh shiet

i switch the usb port

and it works now

tyy

[bronze grove]

[hearty sierra]

what port is best to use? because i have usb 2.0, usb 3.2 gen 1 and usb 3.2 gen 2

[bronze grove]

Whichever works for you.

Board is 2.0

[hearty sierra]

ok

[true patrol]

Not that I would know how to diagnose it, but the fact that any ports aren't properly powering the board suggests a motherboard issue
edit: just realized not the same person

[hearty sierra]

i dont have my keyboard yet i was just curious for when i do get it

[sand plinth]

yea my motherboard is pre old

i thought i was already using the best usb slots cos they were blue but apparently the white slots are better

[true patrol]

depends on the device and the mobo
for the wooting any usb port should be exactly the same, but it may be that there's some slight power issues with some of the ports

[shell geode]

I swapped the spring for just my spacebar, it feels much better for me

[dull thicket]

hi is it possible to copy profiles from wootility to a new module ?

[bronze grove]

Sure. Share the profile to receive a code.

That can be imported on another device.

[dull thicket]

👍

[scarlet blaze]

I'm going to guess that @true patrol is a reddit user.....

[upbeat topaz]

any tips on how to thock up 60he?

[normal schooner]

buy pc plate

[upbeat topaz]

al

r

this one?
https://keychron.de/products/v2-pc-plate?variant=41304553783433

hold on

[hearty sierra]

the one from wooting

[upbeat topaz]

yea

i realised ho dumb i am as you were typing lol

[sand plinth]

https://www.amazon.com.au/ScotchBlue-Painters-Tape-54-8m-2090-18/dp/B00004Z4BB/ref=rvi_d_sccl_6/358-2600119-4867645?pd_rd_w=nsYLQ&content-id=amzn1.sym.27aa7904-0762-4d7d-89ab-5c11fd177d32&pf_rd_p=27aa7904-0762-4d7d-89ab-5c11fd177d32&pf_rd_r=DZ85BZZV2KE22V14VNGJ&pd_rd_wg=EZYVc&pd_rd_r=05828bc8-2b37-48db-957a-9d41ed4118f9&pd_rd_i=B00004Z4BB&th=1 quick q this tape would be okk for double layer tape mod (for wooting60he+) right?

[hearty sierra]

yea this is fine i got the scotch masking tape but i kinda wish i got this one

[fierce void]

No it doesn’t, but I’m also use to this degree with multiple boards

[quaint gyro]

Ceramic keycaps are good on wooting module ?

[leaden rampart]

Does anyone know if there is a good aluminum case for the two he or if they are going to make them?

[spare mauve]

What do you guys think about the caps? Too many colors or nice mix?

[bronze grove]

#💬│general message

[weak inlet]

my simple setup

[upbeat topaz]

is the normal case made out of plastic?

[bronze grove]

Yes. The 2HE, 60HE and UwU all have plastic cases by default.

[upbeat topaz]

sooo more

THOCKY

so it's better to get wooting 60he base with additional lekker 60's, plate and cerakeys?

for the most

THOCK

[strange blaze]

Best stabilizers for the 60he module?

[glossy pagoda]

The ones it comes with

[fresh ridge]

can someone tell me where to find such stealth rgb keycaps in all black? for the wooting 60he (sideprinted)

[bronze grove]

Keep in mind that keycaps will not look like that on the 60HE.

The LEDs face north, not south. It'll be a much less noticeable light.

[fresh ridge]

fine for me, like it more sutble

[true pulsar]

Hey guys im planning to gummy o ring mount the 60he+ module in the tofu redux and already ordered the clip in stabs that im gonna need for it to work. now all i need is the proper o ring specs. do any of you know the specs like outer and or inner diameter and cs? im planning on buying the o ring from ali express as that will be the cheapest way

[slate raptor]

Recieve my case

[normal schooner]

ooh wow this is one of the best I have ever seen here

[rugged parcel]

Hi everyone, I just saw that there is now a PC ISO Switch plate available. However, I have Wooting 60 HE and not 60 HE+. I am wondering if people that have 60 HE ISO layout have encountered any issues with the ISO PC Switch plate? Afraid to order one just in case there are any issues.

[bronze grove]

It isn't designed for it, but it will work... mostly.

You won't be able to screw in the standoff near the Enter key, so you may experience some physical wobble when tapping backspace. But our tests show that it shouldn't affect the sensor accuracy.

I've used it for several months now, and I haven't noticed any issues personally - But I also don't game very hard. I mostly play city builders and type emails.

[rugged parcel]

Ah alright. Great to know. Thanks for the prompt answer! I do have my wooting 60 HE in a Tofu60 Redux case. Would it be wobbling extra much in this case or is this something that you do not know?

[bronze grove]

Couldn't tell you. I've been using the plate in stock case and alumaze.

[rugged parcel]

Alright. Thanks for the replies! Will just order it and see how it goes 😄

[true patrol]

my redux was warped, you may want to check for that by seeing if the case wobbles on a flat surface, and then taking the PCB/plate out of it and seeing if it wobbles when it’s upside down

[tame vessel]

Question about case coating. I understand that the anodized and e-coating process exist because it's harder to get certain pigments to take to aluminum, but does one create a more matte finish than the other or do they both allow for an aluminum shine through? Or does the aluminum just need to be sandblasted to lose that?

[true patrol]

I would say ecoat is more matte than anodized

[tame vessel]

Neat, the reason I ask is that I got a numpad to go with my 60he and the contrast in matte and shine is throwing me off

[quaint gyro]

Does anyone have answer to my question ?

[stray tiger]

They fit yes but they are heavier and some users have reported issues when using lighter switches or even with the spacebar on heavier ones.

[obsidian dagger]

what does "good" mean here

[quaint gyro]

There is no problem i can use all featur of the keyboard

[quaint gyro]

Ok ty

Someone told me that its heavy and switch aren’t adapted thats why i ask

[lavish flax]

Finally finished with my build. (maybe change the spacebar soon)

[tame vessel]

Nice, what case is that?

[lavish flax]

Kbdfans 5 degrees

[tame vessel]

Ty ty

[lavish flax]

I’m using the poron foam for the module. but the sound is so muted. maybe the silicone would sound better. thoughts?

[scarlet blaze]

I've only heard it over video but, I like the sound of silicone better.

[lavish flax]

Imma switch it

[rugged parcel]

Another question back to this topic, if it were to affect sensor accuracy, this would affect the actuation points only on the backspace area? Or would it make the keys stop working completely? And just for my own clarification, I assume you have the original 60HE and not 60 HE+ as well?

[bronze grove]

Only in the Enter/Backspace area yes. With the original 60HE, not the module(60HE+) pcb.

The 60HE+ has the shifted offset, which the PC plate was designed for.

[rugged parcel]

Interesting. I'll gladly sacrifice my Enter and Backspace for the greater good loll

Assuming you meant only the actruation points are affected and not resulting in the keys not working completely 😄

[bronze grove]

I have not experienced any keys not working ever, nor have I noticed any weirdness in actuation.

[stray tiger]

try no foam or silicone

[lavish flax]

I tried silicone still muted.

[lavish flax]

I shall do this now

[stray tiger]

Thats how Im currently running and its my preference atm

[lament drift]

Is there any way to make the outside of the keyboard sound as good as the centre of the keyboard?

"GHJ" is thocky as f***, but ASD sound a little more on the clackier side

[stray tiger]

Gummy mount

[lavish flax]

so now it's hollow. but I have the foam bellow. it's still muted but if I remove the bottom foam is too much. maybe polyfil?

[stray tiger]

Polyfill is what I use also. Experimenting is half the fun

[lavish flax]

then polyfil it is

also the Silicone stand-off protection rings is placed on the stand-off right?

[strange blaze]

Guys im really new to modding, will using a poron foam and pe sheet at the same time affect the wootings speed

[bronze grove]

Where?

[strange blaze]

Idk i heard from someone they said they put both between the pcb and plate i think

[bronze grove]

Oh god no.

Either use the foam OR the silicone.

[strange blaze]

Okay thank you so much

[scarlet blaze]

Why such a strong opinion on this? Does it actually cause functional issues? or fitment problems?

[austere orbit]

Both. Between the pcb and plate you put the sound dampening material in. You can't put both foam and silicone in between there because it wouldn't fit. And when you try to put both of them in then the switches can't get in properly so it wouldn't function.

[bronze grove]

Both. 🙂

The gap is designed for one - or the other.

[scarlet blaze]

Thank you and Thank you.

I was thinking of 3d printing one for my build out of TPU filament.

Has anyone tried that? Thoughts?

Has anyone tried a multi material approach with thinner elements?
2mm each?

[torpid crow]

Any recommendations for a polycarbonate case for the 60he?

[scarlet blaze]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 look here

then at least, you can't go wrong.

[pulsar citrus]

Redux mocha case received today 🫶

[scarlet blaze]

This is definitely my favorite channel in this server.

[tropic robin]

Hey guys iam new in modding and i don’t know how to start can you guys give me some tips? Max budget 150€

[scarlet blaze]

the module with no case/keys etc comes in at 144

[fierce canyon]

Saw keyboard in half for DIY ergo keyboard 👍

[scarlet blaze]

just add hot glue!

[tropic robin]

@scarlet blaze ok thank you so much

[scarlet blaze]

It's important to note, that IS NOT a keyboard.
It's the start of a keyboard

Maybe buy that and save up.... probably that much again for a complete custom.

[tame vessel]

Is that the ecoated one? Is it very shiny? 👀

[agile grove]

max budget plus wooting price or max budget overall?

[strange blaze]

Prob can be less if he doesnt fully go custom

[pulsar citrus]

This one is not e-coated, description said "New Anodized Mocha" 👀

[tame vessel]

Oooh

Ty ty

[tropic robin]

@agile grove 150€ is my max budget overall

[agile grove]

thats under the price of the stock 60he

[scarlet blaze]

I agree. That's why I bought a prebuilt. So I can upgrade as I go.
Actually... I guess that would be my recommendation!

I want to use it and understand what I want to upgrade

[tropic robin]

I know i am sorry

[scarlet blaze]

I did buy lube for switches and stabs ahead of time because that seems like a no brainer. and.... not really a "mod" at all (to me)

[strange blaze]

Ay good for you man, im going fully custom soon, still saving up the last bit

[scarlet blaze]

Dont be sorry bro. You do what you can. Maybe just save a little longer and get a prebuilt. You're off to a great start then

[scarlet blaze]

Cant wait to see your build!

[strange blaze]

Im hyped asf fr man🔥

[strange blaze]

Btw have you done any mods to your prebuilt yet?

[scarlet blaze]

🤣
I don't even HAVE my pre-built yet.

[strange blaze]

The p a i n

[scarlet blaze]

ugh. fr.
I ordered in the first week of Dec.

[strange blaze]

I hope mine doesnt take as long since im in eu

[scarlet blaze]

link your discord so folks can see your batch!

[strange blaze]

I will yup

[signal berry]

do you guys think the jades are worth grtting?

[devout torrent]

yes

[signal berry]

thanks

i guess i’m gonna have to pay for 20 dollar shipping

[devout torrent]

where you ordering from

seems high

[signal berry]

gateron themselves

where should i get them from?

[loud zephyr]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ep6uxU6aedrYUik/giphy.gif

I guess they're ok

[devout torrent]

oh nvm mine was also 19 in shipping

[signal berry]

yea

[agile grove]

switch puller came in

now all I need is the keyboard

[marsh saffron]

thats the same switch puller that came in my kit

[stray tiger]

You are 1% of the way there!

[agile grove]

well I have everything other than the module and switches

so im mostly there

[tawdry tree]

From AliExpress might be cheaper.

[signal berry]

ali express?

i can trust that site?

i hear ppl clowning them all the time

[tame vessel]

I've only ordered once from there but had no issues

[signal berry]

alr lemme check their prices

lmao it costs about the same

[signal berry]

i’ll just buy it from gateron and get economy shipping instead of paying 20 extra

[tame vessel]

Makes sense, that's what I did tbh

[tawdry tree]

Most is free shipping but shipping is included in the price. 😅

[tame vessel]

I did economy and took like week to arrive but I live in a major city in Canada

[signal berry]

yeah normally i’d pay for 20 extra for expedited but im buying an alumaze60 as well as saving more for a gpx 2

[signal berry]

i live in atlanta so my city is fairly major

[slate raptor]

Thanks :D

[tame vessel]

Makes sense, hopefully it gets out to you quick then 🙏

[neat spear]

I have the stock 60he board

[weak inlet]

huge W got my grey one today also so i put my 60he module inside instantly

somehow managed to use the wooting module foam inside the tofu case and it sounds a lot better then the foam provided with tofu60

[near loom]

Anyone have opinions on if i need to relube the gian raptor he switches

[wet hazel]

That's a super cheap magnetic switch, compatible with Wooting? Looting60, what a rival

[tawdry tree]

Unknown if compatible or not but KS-20s are very cheap as well.

10/10 marketing though. 🤣

[scarlet blaze]

Is that real? This is a screen cap?
That can't be real.... right? please?

[tawdry tree]

It’s AliExpress, ofc it’s real.

INCREASE IN FACTORY PROFITS = the better product obviously…

[scarlet blaze]

Oh gosh.

this world .....

[weak inlet]

i have my 60he module with the silicone pad inside should i use the foam one or?

[scarlet blaze]

Up to you.
But not both!

They will produce different sound qualia

[weak inlet]

and which is generally better?

[scarlet blaze]

Not better. Different

Preference of sound.

[uncut musk]

anyone wanna take the bait

[scarlet blaze]

MAYBE feel... but I'll leave that to the experts here

[weak inlet]

and how do they differ

[scarlet blaze]

SOUND

[fresh ridge]

looking for a wooting 60HE case which has no borders like in the picture

[weak inlet]

but in which way xdd

[scarlet blaze]

How can I communicate that through text? Look up one of the many videos to give you some sense of it

[surreal linden]

Gotta pop in with onomatopoeia

[scarlet blaze]

In a word?
THOCK.
but I have no further information

[tame vessel]

Isn't it silicon for clack and foam for thock for the pad difference?

Generally anyways

[wet hazel]

Yeah I just saw them as new switches as I follow that AliExpress store lol

[weak inlet]

so basically foam is quieter

[tame vessel]

Thock isn't quieter as much as it is a lower pitch. I think silicon dampens general noise more if that's your after but I haven't tested it.

[weak inlet]

i have silicone one right now and the sound feels really sharp

i havent lubed my switches manually cause i am lazy af maybe in the future

[tame vessel]

So foam should make it less sharp in theory, but I'll be honest it can be hard to tell sometimes

Me personally, I don't have a mic setup that can actually pick up the differences well 🫠

[weak inlet]

this is how it sounds now

(foam from wooting inside tofu60 redux)
lekker 45 factory lube
and tape mod and a bit of foam inside spacebar

recorded on my ip14 pro

its going to be pailful to hear for yall modders

[tame vessel]

Oh, also looking for opinions on this despite the sound issue I guess. I used the the tofu60 reudx's insert instead of the thick wooting one. No weight bar, jades, tape mod, and foam under the PC plate

Trying to thock

[tame vessel]

I can't play the file format for some reason

[weak inlet]

uhhh on pc you could

i am able to on win11

[tame vessel]

Oh fair, I'm on mobile. Whoops

[weak inlet]

sounds really nice

i just dont like the brutally sharp sound of mine klinda

kinda

the iphone was laying under spacebar

[tame vessel]

Tape modding the back of the PCB should help I think. If you haven't already. Wasn't sure if that comment was more on the space bar for the tape and foam

[weak inlet]

taped the back of the pcb and put foam inside space bar

[tame vessel]

Ty ty

Ah gotcha

Maybe try the foam then? My understanding is that foam between a pom plate and PCB while having a thin layer of foam underneath should help where as thick foam underneath increases the clackiness

[weak inlet]

so thy thje foam pad insted of the silicone one and use the tofu redux foam under the pcs insted the wooting foam

??

[tame vessel]

Yeah

[weak inlet]

and how many layers of the tape mod should i have?

[tame vessel]

I used 3, which is apparently the point before diminishing returns

https://youtu.be/_N8k0u75eLQ?si=8G0DThKJy_cDb1dm

This is the video from the FAQ that has the reasoning, interesting watch

[weak inlet]

thx a lot mate ❤️

[waxen bane]

+1

[loud zephyr]

Any particular reason why you want borderless? Looks so weird imo

[strange blaze]

Ok this is actually hilarious lmao

[pulsar citrus]

Thanks 🙂 i'm now waiting for my 60he and yes I will also use the wooting foam, seems thicker than the tofu one

[weak inlet]

yeah it is a lot thicker

[devout torrent]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832664482405.html?

[scarlet blaze]

I checked it out.... But I really have to wonder, if it's only a 60% aluminum case..... what's the other 40% made from?
Hmmmmm.

[devout torrent]

chinesium

[scarlet blaze]

FAX!

[lime owl]

In case anyone wanted to hear a sound test of the magnetic Gateron Jade switches (lubed) in the Wooting 60 He Module:

https://youtube.com/shorts/3wIlEADlakQ?si=YCJFsN_Y50_I1Kdp

I made a quick clip

[devout torrent]

the jades are pretty nice

if you want thocc they might not be the best

but the sound wayyyyy better than stock lekkers

[fluid ravine]

really poppy

[lime owl]

Yeah, but I am a clack man myself, so I like it

[devout torrent]

yeah super poppy for sure

[lime owl]

Definitely not thocky tho if that’s what you’re aiming for

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[devout torrent]

overlubed lekkers are thockyaa

but man that shit doesnt last at all[

[uncut musk]

I really dont like them LMAO

[fluid ravine]

fr

haha

[devout torrent]

jades?

[uncut musk]

yeah

[devout torrent]

yeah not for everyone

the short travel especially can be odd at first

[uncut musk]

like from all the sound tests ive heard i dont like the sound of them,

[fluid ravine]

Interesting

[halcyon sparrow]

Have you tried lekker45s?

[uncut musk]

i havent tried any of them yet so maybe its different irl but my ears much prefer the raptors

[halcyon sparrow]

Oh okok

[uncut musk]

or more specifically the Raptors with lekker stem

[devout torrent]

wiatin for clear raptor HE

then I will try them

[halcyon sparrow]

I honestly have been enjoying the 45s alot, but I would say I'm far from an expert. My main goal is for performance in gaming and I wear ear buds so speed is over sound for switches

[upbeat topaz]

would cerakey keycaps be compatable with lekken 60's?

[scarlet blaze]

I've had the same question.

[upbeat topaz]

i've scrolled up, and it seems like they are

[scarlet blaze]

I have been led to understand that they are heavy, in general.

[upbeat topaz]

yea, so 60's are required

45's don't make it

[scarlet blaze]

Right

[upbeat topaz]

spacebar gets stuck

[scarlet blaze]

I'm super interested in them. but I hear that they aren't ideal for gaming... which is my main need from the 60

[upbeat topaz]

why aren't they?

[scarlet blaze]

If you get them, I'd really love a first hand review and sound check and feel

[tawdry tree]

A drop of sweat + ceras = slippery slope. 😂🤣

[scarlet blaze]

Slippery, heavy and therefore unresponsive

[scarlet blaze]

You have personal experience?

hoping intensifies

[tawdry tree]

I’ve not played on them for long but my friend has them.

[scarlet blaze]

I see!

[tawdry tree]

They look and sound quite good though.

[upbeat topaz]

they should add hardware gore channel, so i can show my brother's keyboard

particle accelerator mod

[scarlet blaze]

Beg him on my behalf for a thock check? 🥺

[tawdry tree]

#archived_keebs_talk

[upbeat topaz]

perfect

[tawdry tree]

Heavy metal keyboard?

[upbeat topaz]

look at #archived_keebs_talk

[tawdry tree]

Thock is mostly keyboard density, materials, foam, switches and a tiny bit keycaps.

[upbeat topaz]

btw this is the original wooting two

[static tendon]

Has there been any updates anywhere on the wooting module? Maybe through wootings twitch stream?

NA clouds has stayed the same for the last couple weeks. Wondering if it’ll get pushed out to mid February. Seems unlikely to arrive on time

[bronze grove]

#📦│batch_updates has the latest info, always.

[untold wigeon]

They finally arrived

[quiet bay]

another reversed spacebar enjoyer?

[untold wigeon]

Lmao I switchef like 4 years ago

And can never go back

I love it sooo much

The thumb just sits soo naturally

[quiet bay]

yee

it's just comfortable

the regular way the spacebar is I don't like it

my thumb always hits around the edge of it

[untold wigeon]

Yea exactly

Can't wait to install these and see what's up

Out of the box they sound really nice

[stray tiger]

Which switches?

[tawdry tree]

Jades I think

Mine didn’t come in a box like that but the cylinder they came in would fit it 😂

and KS-20 packaging is completely different than this.

[kind yew]

hehehe

[fierce canyon]

the current keycaps i use are totally flat, but before that i used a reverse spacebar. Don't like the edge digging into my thumb the way it does outta the box.

[tiny flint]

Guess what color