🌟│wooting80he

[narrow verge]

yo 81%

[nova nexus]

Always one-upping eh

[hidden wharf]

how to get the 80he role

[narrow verge]

How do I get the EU-Brugh role for my 80HE pre-order

[buoyant solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hmRHWZSeXw

[narrow verge]

damn I'm just stupid

[pale shale]

you are right gaijin desu

[icy cosmos]

Claim the Role then 🤣

[narrow verge]

oh I guess it'll take a few days to get everything

[pale shale]

so how can i change the color blue

[wanton trench]

can someone tell me the main difference between the 60HE and the 80HE

[real stirrup]

20 more keys

[graceful bough]

is there any information about the scanning rate in wooting because I know that the pooling rate will be 8khz and scanning?

[narrow verge]

60 is for people who don't need keys, or have a 60cm wide fold out ikea desk

[toxic zephyr]

scanning is 8khz too

[icy cosmos]

Sorry you can’t, unless you bought the 80HE during the founders campaign in march/ April

[hidden wharf]

i just have he wooting member

[hidden wharf]

[narrow verge]

probably best to not share order numbers, right?

[buoyant solstice]

Order numbers are fine. Tracking numbers or serial numbers not so much

[narrow verge]

ah, would have thought due to transfer from one account to another, if you had the email of the old account

[icy cosmos]

Then follow this instructions https://youtu.be/6hmRHWZSeXw?si=GTNODr3bY3NxzrXl

[buoyant solstice]

Right - You need access to the original email address. And at that point you own whoever you're trying to steal from. Only we - Wooting staff can turn an order number into real information.

[pale shale]

thank you！ let me try

[winged pike]

I had to read 3 times to realize you wrote "Optimum" and not "Opium"... thought I figured out the Freebies we will get 😛

[icy cosmos]

Welcome to the founders family

[pale shale]

Blue now

[late lotus]

What color am I?

Oop, stupid color. Hold on

[real stirrup]

we dont see colours in here

[pale shale]

Seriously, if the delay in delivery can give us something limited as compensation, I think it is still acceptable

[narrow verge]

kinda debating switching to the raw zinc instead of white... but then I'll have to deal with shiny

[hidden wharf]

i also want keyboard next to my name

[knotty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-16635152

just joking

[real stirrup]

also if the sun hits ur keyboard you'll get a 3rd degree burn

[toxic zephyr]

it's matte

[random vortex]

if i was to get a 60HE instead of a 80HE could the wooting support just change my order or is it a cancel Refund and order again ? @buoyant solstice

[pale shale]

because of this delay , can we get a limited set of color keycaps or something

[toxic zephyr]

no

[narrow verge]

I'd also see myself every time I look down, but it would look cool as fuck

[real stirrup]

yeah you could pluck your eyebrows

[grave umbra]

Let's just hope there isn't another delay lol

[narrow verge]

my eyebrows are nice sir

[grave umbra]

I'm fine with waiting for a good thing

[buoyant solstice]

Gotta email to cancel

[random vortex]

Thank you

[storm dust]

Because of this delay can I get a 2nd 80he free

[dark cargo]

Has there been plenty of cancellations after this delay?

[pale shale]

not cool i think https://youtu.be/XjXPvIEHeCY?t=107&si=CIR8fAHoBvxBM7ba

[slow tusk]

Pain. So much pain.

[pale shale]

And i think it's easy to be corroded by sweat

[buoyant solstice]

It has a top coat.

[low token]

If you strip protective coating

[buoyant solstice]

You're not touching bare metal.

[real stirrup]

you missed a feature there

[harsh pollen]

wow..

[worn compass]

YOU GUYS ARE GETTING DATES?!?!?!?

[harsh pollen]

xDDDDDD

[dense ridge]

@worn compass delayed

[worn compass]

it just says lat nov for me

[worn compass]

I already know

[dense ridge]

@worn compassthere are no dates for u bc the date is too far i guess

[worn compass]

before the delay it was october and there still were no dates

[dense ridge]

ah

so i think that there is no dates for second batch then

[harsh pollen]

mine was augsut ...

[dense ridge]

yours is second batch right? bridge?

[silent linden]

Will the delay for 80 also affect the 60 batch as well?

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[worn compass]

yeah

my fault for not being a founder xD

[dense ridge]

i dont care about the dates.. i am afraid of getting repaired keyboard and not new 😦

[real stirrup]

we're all waiting here

[dense ridge]

now i am thinking maybe its better to cancel first batch and order again to get a second batch

if u are changing that ic parts on pcb then the pcb is already repaired and not new... will not be nice to get that

[pale shale]

I think the protective coating on the Zinc Case Raw peels off more easily on the Zinc Case Black, so I canceled the Raw and switched to the Black.

[restive bay]

If you are going to receive a faulty keyboard you will receive in the first, second or third batch

[worn compass]

I stand by my order! we will wait till this dang thing comes

[restive bay]

They are trying to give us a good keyboard but shit can happen anyways

[dense ridge]

@restive bay its not about faulty its about repaired

[pale shale]

Dear Mansen，because of this delay , can we get a limited set of color keycaps or something

[restive bay]

They are not repairing anything

[dense ridge]

@restive bayThere is a chance that the keyboards we've already manufactured can get reworked to replace the current IC part with a new one. If so, this would speed up the timeframe. However, this needs to get validated before we can confidently consider that as part of the delivery estimate.

[restive bay]

The rest of the chips will be brand new

[worn compass]

that would increase the delay lol

[dense ridge]

@restive baythis is called repaired

to change ic parts on pcb u have to desolder and resolder that probably

[restive bay]

No, repairing means taking the chip, fixing it and put it back in the keyboard

Replacing a faulty chip by a new one cannot be considered "repaired"

[wispy trellis]

because f this delay i want the keyboard for FREEE absolutely justified

[pale shale]

welcome to 2025

[dense ridge]

@restive bay it is considered as repaired bc the pcb will be ruined! u cant desolder anything without ruining the look of pcb

its not new already

[restive bay]

I recommend you to buy the third batch then

[dense ridge]

its the same if u say that the changed socket on motherboard is not considered as repaired. So u bent the pins on motherboard then change the socket and then its new for you again?

[oak jungle]

bo

[blissful spindle]

does it matter tho? if it works it works, not like you'll be able to see the pcb with everything on

[wispy trellis]

they consider stains a problem so for wooting it matters wich is kinda nice

[restive bay]

If you replace one cpu for a brand new one, I consider it new, yes.

[hoary quiver]

what is this guy even smoking

[dense ridge]

@restive bay i was telling u about socket.. where u installing the cpu not the cpu itself

anyway

[buoyant solstice]

Do you want to wait an additional six months (or longer) for a new keycap set to be designed and made? Sure.

[blissful spindle]

[wispy trellis]

just give us the "light and dark" difusor 😉 if there is a dark one for the dark case;)

[sleek pelican]

yes please :)

thank me later guys

in six months

[blissful spindle]

founders will be waiting for an entire year now lol

[restive bay]

In January it should be delivered, almost a year

[simple saffron]

I just want my keeb

[restive bay]

And the reason for January is because the CEO repits in the video multiple times that they are concern about the high rate of dead keyboards

The moment they start the production again they will need to test it themself and make sure that every piece of the production is not faulty which takes time

[quasi crater]

think im gonna buy a 60he with jade switches, it can be my backup keyboard if something happens with the 80he later too. + then i have 2 different keyboards with different switches

[fallen epoch]

Soon, zinc church member, soon..

[barren yew]

does everything ship when everything is available or do they send it whenever the parts are ready for the 80he module?

[buoyant solstice]

When your entire order is ready, it ships as one.

[jolly wind]

Man, my gateron switches were set to deliver like two weeks after the 80HE and I was concerned about if I should use it before the switches arrive. Now the switches will be here 3 months before the keyboard

[west drift]

😭

i still need to decide a keycap set to use on my white alloy 80he

[restive bay]

You have plenty of time

[valid comet]

thats very nice because I was concerned my box was gonna get damaged, they did that to my cousins 60HE box but mine was fine. I had a bunch of stuff ordered with it so they packed it in a larger box protecting the cool wooting boxes and products 😎

[cyan zinc]

Anyone get the 60he to use as they wait for the 80

[restive bay]

Im thinking about ordering one

[quasi crater]

I am really considering it

[west drift]

i would have if i had the money for one LMAO

[cyan zinc]

A lot of ppl r gonna order it now

So get it while it’s in stock

[restive bay]

True

[cyan zinc]

I ordered mine yesterday after I heard about snap tap 😂

[restive bay]

But 800€ in two keyboards same month is a bit huge

[cyan zinc]

I’m gonna sell my 60 after the 80 comes

[prisma wagon]

What if they’ve planned it this way so they can sell more 60he

Devs

[restive bay]

Doesnt make sense since the majority will change one keyboard for the other, nor purchasing both

[valid comet]

keeping all my wooting stuff

[restive bay]

Take into account we both lost.
Company lost € by buying another batch, more money to quality check, worst experience to the customer for delays for all batches...

[pale shale]

The 60HE’s Take Control Keycaps is enough give us that one，we can use it on 80HE

[prisma wagon]

Big true. But you have to know I was not serious at all 😅

[simple saffron]

wow we're entitled af in here

[amber token]

I noticed the raw and frost cases on the webpage are available to select in the pre order. Should they be available to preorder now or are they separate?

[buoyant solstice]

Always have been - As separate cases with or without the 80HE Module.

[gleaming wind]

I just bought an 80he with a white alu case

hell yeah

[cyan zinc]

Fr since they r delayed can I have mine changed to another color? The black and ghost r the only ones I saw

[gleaming wind]

who just renamed my name into renameME, show urselfs immediately

[restive bay]

Contact customer support by email, they are really fast and attend you really well

[cyan zinc]

Alr hopefully that works don’t wanna cancel and reorder

[hoary quiver]

you could do that the whole time mate

[cyan zinc]

Fr

[restive bay]

It will be the best solution for them and you

[real stirrup]

the frost is only available if you build it yourself right?

[buoyant solstice]

Yup

[restive bay]

Happens the same to me in my workplace

[knotty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-see-it-thru-my-gif-23483567

[gaunt palm]

No！！！！！！，I hate delay！ can not wait

[real stirrup]

anyone know the dimension of the keyboard, looking for a cover

[buoyant solstice]

It's on the product page. 🙂

[real stirrup]

thanks

[pale shale]

Dear Mansen
What's the official reason for the shipping delay this time?

[buoyant solstice]

#📦│batch_updates message

[pale shale]

[weary wren]

😭

[graceful mica]

It takes as long as it takes, i'm glad you guys looked closely and caught the problem

[ruby siren]

My wooting 80he shipped just now so am I bypassing the 6 week wait?

[buoyant solstice]

Definitely did not ship

[lime aspen]

Yeah you've got another bit before it ships

[open lake]

I'm interested in the wooting 80he for it's format, just can't justify purchasing a new keyboard atm since current works fine LOL

[blissful spindle]

sell it or keep it as an emergency keyboard

[red heart]

If you buy now it wont come until november so don‘t worry

You have time to decide

[open lake]

is the price gonna jump or something

[red heart]

No

[severe salmon]

did i mistake buying the 60

i just bought the 60 today literally omg

i just cancelled the order for the 60 and bought the 80 instead - sent in a request ticket to have the 60he cancelled, which should be fine since i just ordered it 4 hours ago 🤞

BLACK OR GHOST CHAT?

[digital elm]

Both

[plain forge]

The one that is making you hesitant to choose the other

[crisp jungle]

zinc black

👍

[open lake]

ghost zinc

[gilded junco]

Depends on the form factor you want

[mighty silo]

jesus my 80 isnt coming til like december now wtf

[graceful mica]

Mine on EU batch 1 says first half of oct

[valid comet]

dude its so over you will have 10 years removed from your life for choosing the wrong keyboard

in all seriousness, there is nothing wtong with the 60HE+

Im happy with mine even though I use arrows and F keys more than my WASD shift space

[timid meteor]

SOCD worth it bro you can’t wait until November, they’re gonna patch it by then 💀

[trim hollow]

Hello everyone. I'd like to ask. I currently have a Huntsman V3 Pro TKL. Horrible build, and Synapse breaks my keyboard every time.

[valid comet]

plus despite being 1k only it is still king of latency, consistency, and reliability (across my cousins unit and my unit)

[trim hollow]

Should I buy a 60he+ now, or wait for the 80he?

[low token]

Do you regret your buy

[valid comet]

#🌟│wooting80he message
this

[timid meteor]

Yeah synapse is a bit weird on my huntsman tkl te. Is it really that bad tho that you’d say it breaks the keyboard?

[trim hollow]

Very much. I hate the build quality. Yes, it's responsive but Synapse is garbage and it makes my keyboard spam keys.

[low token]

I guess 60he now if you are fine with 60% layout

[valid comet]

get 60HE+ or Two HE

[potent hornet]

Synapse is actual malware, hence me replacing my huntsman mini with wooting 60he

[valid comet]

if you want wooting now

[potent hornet]

60he is miles good enough, plus what's to stop u buying the new one when it comes out, they aren't exactly expensive

[timid meteor]

60 is clean bro honestly. 80 is really only better for the switches imo but imma js swap them instead of getting a whole new keyboard by then. If you don’t have a wooting yet I’d still say js go for the 60 since it’s cheaper.

[random vortex]

If you really think about it the only Reason to get a 80HE over a 60HE is the extra keys, the 8000hz is not gonna that big of deal

[low token]

@trim hollow so technicly software wnd feature wise there wouldnt be a change

[trim hollow]

So the reason I'm asking you gents about buying or waiting is that I am okay with waiting for the 80he if it has significant upgrades over the 60he+

[timid meteor]

Exactly! Like for a mouse it’s understandable, but a keyboard’s input difference at that point is unnoticeable

[trim hollow]

I don't care for the 8K polling. Yes, it's nice, but I won't use it.

[steel scaffold]

Aren't the main advantages of the 80: the zinc alloy, extra keys , better sound and 8k?

[low token]

It has better mounting point, switches for now until they run out off v1 lekkers and more keys that are main features that are not in 60he

[gilded junco]

Sounds like you might have gotten a bad keyboard then

[trim hollow]

So if I order a 60he+ today, will it come with the Lekker V2 ones that the 80he advertises?

[timid meteor]

No

[trim hollow]

Can I buy them and switch them out?

[low token]

60he will have v1s untill they run out

[timid meteor]

But you can still buy lekker v2 once they come out they won’t come out until the 80he comes out

[trim hollow]

Got it.

Sounds like I should go for it and order the 60he+ now.

[random vortex]

the 80HE is supposed to have a better out of the box build quality than the 80HE that's something if you care about that

[timid meteor]

you can switch them out easily. I prefer 60 because it takes up less space on my desk

[low token]

Thats one of their selling points

[timid meteor]

And you still have other keyboards with the keys that 60 doesn’t have if you really need them.

[trim hollow]

Maybe I'll leave the Huntsman for family general use and get myself a 60he+ and customize it haha

[low token]

So if you want customize it buy module case switches and keycaps

[timid meteor]

Yeah or like a spreadsheet for taxes(said no one ever)

[low token]

[random vortex]

as a web dev who is used to typing on a 80% those extra keys is the only reason why i got the 80% but honestly at this point im thinking of getting a 60HE and modding it to be has good as the 80HE

[trim hollow]

Well, even on my current keyboard I never use the arrow keys and I can always remap the F Keys to numbers.

[low token]

So look cheeto if you want mod your 60he it would allow you so much as your budget allows it

If you want get exact look

[timid meteor]

While you hold fn, it maps the f keys to numbers.

The only time it’s really a problem not having them for me is when I have to let go of my mouse to vote in cs2

[random vortex]

idk if it's fair to put it this way but if you don't intend on typing a lot of text you should probably just get the 60HE

[trim hollow]

So overall, what do you guys thing? I'll keep it simple.

It's only for gaming.

[timid meteor]

Yeah then get 60he+

[trim hollow]

I'll probably keep it stock

80he or 60he+?

I'll basically plug it in when I'm gaming and then plug in the other keyboard for normal use.

[timid meteor]

Even when you do have to use the keys you don’t have (which does happen time to time), you still have another keyboard.

[random vortex]

just get the 60HE those Fkeys are not worth the 4 months of wait

[timid meteor]

Exactly

[somber ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-its-okay-rocky-you-go-when-you-feel-like-it-gif-21084732

[random vortex]

get yourself a nice case it's not that expensive and it does a lot for the sound

[somber ocean]

Am i the only one with this attitude?

Really unbothered with the delay

If it means a premium product

[real stirrup]

they got used to product mass produced already

[random vortex]

i think people who wanted a wooting keyboard and choose the 80HE are the people who are bothered mostly

[somber ocean]

Makes sense

[random vortex]

i want to cheat too man 😢

[somber ocean]

Patience broski

Im thankful gaming is a luxury not a necessity

[gilded junco]

To some it's an addiction

[random vortex]

oh we are definitely having some nice First world problem here

but complaining feels kind of nice

[languid pawn]

People need to worry about shit they can control, it’s just wasted energy and stress to worry about something you have no control over. Get over it

K

[brisk grail]

[trim hollow]

I agree. I am fine waiting if it means a premium product. That's why I was wondering if should wait for the 80he.

[thick estuary]

hey guys, i want to buy a wooting keyboard, is it worth waiting for the 80HE? i currently have a razer hunstamn te.

[trim hollow]

Scroll up. I just asked the same thing.

[gilded junco]

It sounds like this is something you need to figure out yourself. If you're patient and were deadset on the 80 just wait for that

[thick estuary]

ah mb

[trim hollow]

All good! You didn't know

What case would you recommend for the 60he+ to get that deep, smooth thoc sound?

[hard vale]

just got the news of my keyboard being pushed back to mid october RIP

[trim hollow]

Which keyboard??

[hard vale]

80he

[low token]

Cheeto lets go to #🔧│keyboard_modding

[hard vale]

should have ordered the 60he+ when it was in stock

[urban meadow]

Pre ordered today, I think its worth the wait since it will have an 8k pulling rate future, plus with wooting being so open about the process making sure its up to a high customer quality standard makes it even more worth the wait

[hexed trench]

tbf 8k hertz is 7/8ths of a millisecond faster than 1k

[trim hollow]

Ah, yeah I saw today's video. I think it's very cool that they are transparent about issues and want to make sure we get a premium, we'll made product.

[hexed trench]

and make sure razer loses a ton of cash on returns (the wooting implementation is better to lmao)

[gilded junco]

It's not in stock anymore?

Still shows it in stock for me

[hard vale]

no saying will be in stock in august

[gilded junco]

Oh

[pastel stag]

its in stock for me

[next lark]

8k polling hz basically means nothing

[worn compass]

I’m one of those people and I’m not bothered by it much, I already accepted the fact I was gonna have to wait till October but than they changed it to late November. I’ve already accepted that fact just today. 118 days until November 20th.

[delicate ether]

Hey wooting, cool new video and all but I don’t mind the defect at all if you want to send me one of those boards for free yeah (joke)

[hard vale]

cool video, can we get a free wrist rest? (joke)

[graceful mica]

All the way up to 8k, not really. But in the 600's (where the only other competing keyboard, the Two HE exists) it does matter

[sturdy sigil]

unfortunate update :C

[analog hatch]

when will wooting make mice?

[random vortex]

Im 100% with you here, honestly the 60HE being in stock make it an even better of an option right now

[worn compass]

Idrc, I’m sticking with the 80he

I trust wooting and their process

[analog hatch]

I ordered both 60 nad 80, im crazy. Just ghot the 60 and waiting on 80

[random vortex]

That's a lot of money spent when waiting is free

[worn compass]

If you have the money and your happy with your purchases that’s great :D me personally I only had enough for one and I chose the 80he

[analog hatch]

wish they can produce the 80 quicker

[worn compass]

Im sure they have some done

[analog hatch]

they have to replace the IC part tho

[worn compass]

For all of them????

Thought it was only the defective ones

[analog hatch]

yeah, have u seen the video

[wispy trellis]

they don't know when and if its defective and it can happen at any time... so...

[analog hatch]

they test some of the good one and some of them broke after testing as I remember

[worn compass]

That’s fair

Has anything similar like this happen during the production of the 60he?

[analog hatch]

for this u have to ask pros

the professionals i mean

[gilded junco]

Some were saying it did have delays as well

[jade widget]

Whenever they come up with something unique that sets them apart from other mice I'd imagine

[analog hatch]

hall effect mice XD

[jade widget]

And what would the benefits of that be

[analog hatch]

sounds really ccool

[sullen sand]

The 60HE was delayed due to IC shortage

Coincidence?

[worn compass]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[sullen sand]

Designing, building and distributing a new keyboard to thousands of people is a huge task, Wooting is transparent in it's production process so we learn about things going right and wrong.... Big companies making keyboards keep it quiet until it's released

And the tech is more complex than most keyboards on the market

[oak jungle]

you have to keep in mind there is a chance 3rd delay may occur no pls no malding and wait

[fossil lava]

from a beginner in wooting, should i go for a 80he or a wooting two he?

[oak jungle]

go for 80he gasket mount and great stuff come with it

[atomic brook]

do you need a numpad?

[fossil lava]

not really

[dawn scroll]

aw shucks its delayed

[atomic brook]

if yes get the 80he and a external numpad

[fossil lava]

woah

[atomic brook]

if no get the 80he

[fossil lava]

they out until november

maybe two is the option

didnt see that

[atomic brook]

oh ya time

[worn compass]

So many people were complaining this morning I mean I get it but.. complaining will get you anywhere, I literally said “either wait or get a refund” and some grown ass adult replied to me with a clown emoji.. that’s some middle school type behavior

[oak jungle]

yeah pain and may get delayed more

[atomic brook]

if its that urgent then sure go for wooting 2

and if you want to change to the 80he down the line

[oak jungle]

ppl are weird

[fossil lava]

true

let the test subjects run its course and get later

[atomic brook]

just sell it or give it to the friend

[gilded junco]

Then people wonder why companies don't like interacting with the consumers honestly

[atomic brook]

lmao

[worn compass]

Yeah, I have an 80he pre order and you don’t see me making a big deal out of it, I trust wooting

[atomic brook]

i can feel mansen malding

[oak jungle]

I have tested their 2he and I know for a fact there is no keyboard in the market like wooting keyboards

[fossil lava]

currently i have a k100 corsair and i can feel the input delay in these new games

[oak jungle]

ppl buy Chinese keyboards with cartoonish software for 250$ Yikes

[oak jungle]

I bought it and sold it like after 2 weeks I hated it

and I bought huntsman v3 pro

and I hated it returned it to amazon

[atomic brook]

dawg read some reviews first then

[oak jungle]

tested apex pro scratchy keys and red switches in HE keyboard

[fossil lava]

for a beginner

[atomic brook]

sounds like a lot of wasted time

[fossil lava]

do i need a lube set for wooting

or lkeker switches

[atomic brook]

yes and no

[oak jungle]

not really

[fossil lava]

not sure exactly what to add

[atomic brook]

its prelubbed but you might want to lube it when i wears out

[worn compass]

So glad I still got school, it’ll make waiting for the 80he so much better 😭🙏🙏

[oak jungle]

take the wrist rest you will love it

the other stuff meh you don't really need it

even the yellow switches

coz their lekker switches feel hella smooth

when I got my 2he I right away felt the diff between apex pro and wooting

apex pro felt cheap

compared to 2he

[fossil lava]

i ordered

just 2he and white keys

[oak jungle]

enjoy you will love it

[rain zodiac]

did wooting say anything about offering other colored 80he cases like the alumaze for the 60?

[oak jungle]

znic but for me it's ugly asf

not that clean like 60he cases

[sullen sand]

Could be possible later down the line, those kind of things weren't released until the 60 was out for a while

[quasi crater]

I hope so, would be cool with some more colors and stuff :)

[vague prism]

Guys

[worn compass]

Guy

[vague prism]

i got us stickers

[worn compass]

Show

[vague prism]

Scroll up to 1pm i think

O_O

[vague prism]

Here

[knotty marsh]

You'll have to wait until 2025 to get stickers and the 80HE

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-desperate-i-need-a-drink-that70s-kitty-forman-gif-25152005

[vague prism]

[knotty marsh]

It's going to be limited edition founder stickers too

[vague prism]

[knotty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[gilded junco]

Can I ask you something

Depends on if you want the extra keys

[fallen epoch]

I may be biased since i like arrows and f row, but i think its worth the wait

[worn escarp]

But are those the only differences? I saw the 80he also had lower latency in a video

[fallen epoch]

NOO NOT AGAIN

[gray thunder]

Sadge i just joined to discuss my love for the 80he

[random vortex]

It's not like you can't use the f Keys anymore Just press FN

[primal bluff]

Did it get delayed more??

[gilded junco]

#📦│batch_updates

[primal bluff]

Like past November

[fallen epoch]

80he has true 8k polling rate. Thats why it has lower latency

[gilded junco]

Some people have December

[random vortex]

✨ 6 fantastic weeks ✨

[worn compass]

I feel so bad for them.

[primal bluff]

That’s insane I have November still tho

[quasi crater]

Also the 80he comes with v2 switches if you care about that

[worn compass]

I have late November 😭😭😭

[primal bluff]

Mines mid nov

[worn compass]

WHAT

[gilded junco]

I haven't even placed my order

So mine would be like 2025

[worn compass]

this what I get for living in Florida

[worn escarp]

i guess ill just keep waiting for the 80he since the game i play does require alot of f-key use and some of the other stuff i do need arrow keys aswell

[fallen epoch]

I got october, founder ftw

[knotty marsh]

Mine is until 2025 Q2 since I'm getting limited edition stickers

[fallen epoch]

Holographic mansen stickers

[worn compass]

What game¿ just curious

[worn escarp]

....league...

[worn compass]

I’m not gonna comment on that

[gilded junco]

Lol

[random vortex]

Bro are you faker ??? Why do you use F Keys that much on league

[gilded junco]

I thought they were gonna say RTS game

[fallen epoch]

I will ignore this transgression, just this once

[worn escarp]

hahaha its a good habit to have

[worn escarp]

sorry...

[gilded junco]

What about Valorant

[fallen epoch]

But yeah either board you deicde to go with youll have a top tier piece of tech

[fallen epoch]

Thats just as bad

[knotty marsh]

I say wait it's going to be worth it

[gilded junco]

No you're fine, I'm bad with league and used to use a MMO mouse

[gilded junco]

Nu

[worn compass]

I like playing every kind of game, I’m down for anything so I wanted a keyboard that’ll have enough keys for any kind of game :D

[fallen epoch]

Sorry, thats just the rules

[knotty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/period-periodt-pooh-gif-23789975

[quasi crater]

yea if you play league i would want to have the F row

[fallen epoch]

I use my twohe for everything, rhythm games, shooters, isometric, havent tried it with racing however

[worn compass]

I wanted F-row for certain binds and arrow keys for RPG’s/emulation or maybe just indi games in general

[gilded junco]

Must follow Mango law

[random vortex]

Not if you play adc 🤣

[fallen epoch]

I only forgive league players once because i play smite, so i know their pain

[worn compass]

Sometimes I like to play big games, last one I completed was the last of us part 1 and before that it was god of war 2018

[gilded junco]

Smite 1 or 2

[fallen epoch]

Both!

[gilded junco]

[fallen epoch]

Played smite 1 since start of season 3

[worn compass]

Pc specs… surprised my 3070 can run these games on max settings….

[fallen epoch]

Last big timestink ive had in a game was persona 3 reload

[gilded junco]

Last game I beat was Still Wakes the Deep

[worn compass]

I’ve been wanting to get into persona, I have persona 4 golden, and persona 5 royale

Never played them tho

[fallen epoch]

They’re lengthy, but they’re damn worth it

[random vortex]

Any interest in baldur's gate ?

[worn compass]

I’m aware

[fallen epoch]

Im playing through 3 right now!

Got it during the steam sale

[worn compass]

Tbh I’m too broke for most huge games like that 😭
But if there’s a game that really interests me I’ll put the money I have to get one and then put myself on like a video game buying cooldown xD

[fallen epoch]

Im really excited for stalker 2

[worn compass]

Never played the original but it looks so cool

[fallen epoch]

Its gonna be good

[quasi crater]

I almost never use F row in league haha, but still nice to have i guess

[gilded junco]

You saw it got delayed?

[worn compass]

I don’t think there’s any big games I expect to buy that’ll release soon.. I guess black ops 6 but I’m gonna wait till the game comes out first and see if everyone else thinks it’s good

[fallen epoch]

So its not coming in September?

[quasi crater]

isnt bo6 like 90 euros

[gilded junco]

Space Marine 2 for me

[worn compass]

Dunno, all ik is freedom dollars. $70 over here

[fallen epoch]

Mmm, not as bad as other delays

[quasi crater]

If the zombie mode is good i might consider it

[worn compass]

This is literally around the same time my 80he is supposed to come

[gilded junco]

Can I add on steam, to have Deer friend?

[random vortex]

Honestly the more I think about fkeys the more I realise that I never press those thing ☠️

[worn compass]

Haha I see what you did there

[gilded junco]

[quasi crater]

lmao same, i usualy just press and hold the map

[worn compass]

Unless that was unintentional…….

[gilded junco]

Bit of both

[fallen epoch]

Feel free too :)
Ill probably accept it tomorrow since its bed time for me

[gilded junco]

Ninis

[fallen epoch]

goodnight friends

[random vortex]

Im an adc player I Just walk where my support is Anyway

Good night !

[worn compass]

I need to beat elden ring, I’ve had it since launch and I’ve just been so demotivated to play it since I had to restart twice 😭😭😭😭

[random vortex]

You have time elden ring 2 is coming out in 10 years

[worn compass]

[random vortex]

I still can't believe the arrow Keys are not aligned

[worn compass]

You have some mad ocd if it’s bothering you that much xD

[knotty marsh]

Everyone voted to get it moved to the right a little more

[random vortex]

I like lignes and that left key is NOT aligned with anything it's So strange wtf

[worn compass]

I wonder if they’ll be a way to make the 80he look like a sleeper build in the future.. I’m unsure if that’ll be possible because of the led bar

[knotty marsh]

I hope so

[random vortex]

The led bar is the new TAKE CONTROL

it looks good thought

[worn compass]

I like how the led bar looks

[gray thunder]

it’s subtle and not obnoxious

i like

[worn compass]

There should definitely be an option to have it off tho ngl

[gray thunder]

yea for sure

[random vortex]

That lay out is not compatible with anything Anyway you might aswell keep it

[atomic brook]

most people here do

[worn compass]

Ik, like I said I like the led bar it’s just some people might like to make a custom version of the 80he with a certain style. Hell tbh the led bar can help with the aesthetic of some people’s future custom 80he build

[worn compass]

Rlly?

[atomic brook]

brother

[worn compass]

[atomic brook]

head to keyboard modding

[random vortex]

I knew I wasnt crazy

[atomic brook]

they spend thousands for their ocds

[worn compass]

I’m aware

[random vortex]

Some People on this discord spends hours lubbing prelubed switches

[worn compass]

My boyfriend is a mega keyboard enthusiast and he’s just triggered by the existence of companies trying to make stock keyboards sound and feel as good as possible

Showed him this picture and he went on a whole rant

[atomic brook]

its just nice

[knotty marsh]

[atomic brook]

newer people kinda suck at modding themselves

[random vortex]

If it's looks good and type good it's a good keyboard

[gray thunder]

i’m used to cheap ones so this will be a huge upgrade for me

[atomic brook]

maybe another company would be weird

but wooting is low quantity

so its nice

[worn compass]

He said somethin on the lines of it’s not the same as modding the keyboard yourself and spending that time preparing and tweaking it to your liking

I get it but at the same time

[atomic brook]

lmao

yea make sense

[worn compass]

Some people don’t wanna go through that

It’s hella money!

[atomic brook]

its a personal project for him probably

thats sick

[worn compass]

Most definitely for sure

[random vortex]

It's Just like building your pc I guess

[worn compass]

I hated every second of when I was building my first pc, than after I was done I was like “that wasn’t too bad, I wanna do it again :D”

[atomic brook]

I just have a tendency to break everything I touch

so I'd rather not

[random vortex]

You can not break a gpu unless you throught it on the ground

[worn compass]

YO PLS TELL ME SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THE STRESS OF HOLDING A REALLY EXPENSIVE CPU AND MAKING SURE YOU DONT BREAK IT

[random vortex]

I drop my 5800x3d box when I bought it I almost passed out

[worn compass]

BRO I WOULD TOO

[ebon lodge]

i am keeping a track of number of delays in interest of future transparency for future products

[worn compass]

Also same cpu!!! Twin!!

[random vortex]

That cpu is the truth

[worn compass]

800x3D series goes so hard

[ebon lodge]

day 192,382, here I am, 80 years old, awaiting my 80HE haha

[sullen sand]

If he's not a fan of Wooting then you know what to do

[worn compass]

The cpu is so good!! I could literally upgrade to a 4090 without any issues if I wanted to

[worn compass]

A few months is nothing and will go by so quickly, hope you get your 80he on time!!

[random vortex]

I just hope nvidia give us a crumb of extra vram did time

[worn compass]

3070 is such a good card, it deserved more vram

At least 10gb to 12gb

[quasi crater]

you can always download more 👍

[random vortex]

that's their new start they limit the GPU vram to make it worse

[worn compass]

Such a good idea!!!

[worn compass]

It’s literally bottlenecking their own gpu’s and it’s so annoying

[random vortex]

Some dudes tried adding vram to their gpu it actually worked

[worn compass]

I’m an nvidia glazer tho so I’m gonna force myself to use their products

[worn compass]

Yeah I’ve seen it too

It was insane

[worn prairie]

Yea that’s a good idea 😂

[sullen sand]

Just spend 1000 and get 16gb

[worn compass]

So true!!!!!

Srsly tho that’s the most I’d ever spend on a gpu I think $2000 for a gpu is actually so absurd 😭😭😭

[worn prairie]

Ore get 24gb by going amd

[random vortex]

Maybe it's AMD time

[worn prairie]

Very happy with my 7900xtx

[ebon lodge]

get to work slaves takes out the whip lol

[sullen sand]

yeah but you only need the extra vram for raytracing

[vagrant haven]

im just waiting for the 50 series and then I'll upgrade my 20 series to a 40 series. Last gen stuff is usually like reasonably priced

[worn compass]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-avengers-rdj-gif-7389445

[sullen sand]

like turn off that kinda stuff and 8gb is probably enough for them as they are on 1080p

[vagrant haven]

assuming nvidia is even a gpu company still. they could just go all in on ai and make bank still

[random vortex]

Are amd gpu driver still cooked or that's a legend at this point ?

[worn prairie]

Legend

[sullen sand]

rare occasion for any of them tbh

[worn compass]

I bought an rtx card. A card branded for raytracing. And the card. Doesn’t meet the requirements. For playable raytracing.

[sullen sand]

and then you buy an amd card that also doesn't meet the requirements for raytracing even though it has 3x the vram

[worn compass]

I ran the last of us part 1 just fine at native 1080 max settings 60fps

Idk what’s up with other games tho

Bad optimization ig

[random vortex]

1440p is a trap

You need to upgrade EVERYTHING once you get a new monitor

[jade widget]

Been on 1440p 165hz since 2016 catch up

[worn compass]

The Rtx “80’s” and “90’s” cards are the only cards that can do raytracing istg

[random vortex]

Im sticking to 1080 240hz until my monitor breaks

[worn compass]

Erm, my card isn’t sufficient enough for 1440p! As it’s an old mid tier card. 1080p 240hz will suffice for me!!!!

🤓

[jade widget]

I had this monitor on a 970

[ebon lodge]

Nah son, you got it backwards, never underestimate the evil of manufacturing in the world under the logically fallacious argument of "they're doing it so we can too" market bandwagon argument. It's because of China's well known child labour and general labour exploitation practices and lack of safety procedures that leads to the cheapness behind moving to manufacturing in these places. China is actually improving on these practices, and then combining santions factors is what is leading countries to move to other places with dodgier practices. Companies will manufacturer where it's cheapest, not due to moral reasons.

[sullen sand]

I mean in 4 or 5 years a 4090 will be a 1080p card anyway

[random vortex]

4K 2fps type set up 😎

[ebon lodge]

Public backlash also doesn't count as doing the right thing

[worn compass]

4k -9fps

[jade widget]

Well it's lasted 8 years of gaming and 3 gpu upgrades

[random vortex]

Nvidia might pull a Intel on us and slow down as much as possible until someone catch up

[worn compass]

What kind of specs you run now?

[ebon lodge]

they've done it before

[jade widget]

A have a 3060 ti rn but will be upgrading next gen

[quasi crater]

Doesnt 4K require 4080 or better, thats too expensive for me haha + i think 1440p looks more than good enough

[random vortex]

Old gpu are Just goated my 2070 did not old up that long

[jade widget]

We holding on for next gen

[ebon lodge]

I use my PC for everything including media playback hence why 4K is important for me with HDR etc

[jade widget]

480hz OLED

[sullen sand]

If you're talking native but 4k with DLSS is nice

[ebon lodge]

yeah, DLSS has been a life saver for me

[worn compass]

That sounds good, been debating on upgrading to next gen but we don’t know prices yet and I only got my pc just this last October so I won’t be upgrading for a while, for sure tho I’ll be getting the 6090 ti

[sullen sand]

FSR has way too much shimmering

[ebon lodge]

indeed

[random vortex]

LG is asking for a few organes in exchange

[worn compass]

That’s what you run???? Damn you be making a lot of money. Or just poor financial decisions… or you’ve saved up for a long while

[ebon lodge]

OLED is good for darker rooms

[jade widget]

Just old and have a decent paid job 🤷‍♂️

[ebon lodge]

source: working at a HiFi store selling OLED and other TV's on a bright showroom floor and also having dark theater rooms

[random vortex]

QDOLED is fine in bright room no ?

[worn compass]

I love Oled, I have an Oled Tv in my bedroom and it looks stunning, I’m just a bit scared of getting an Oled display for my pc because of screen burn ins. It’s the one thing that makes Oled go from perfect to almost perfect

[ebon lodge]

MiniLED I found in experience is best in bright rooms

OLED in general is getting better but it's still not there imo

[worn compass]

Honestly good for you :D

[ebon lodge]

and the screen burn in thing too is a legit drawback despite all the tech to try and help, looks like the rtings data is confirming this

[jade widget]

WOLED is better for brighter rooms

[random vortex]

The funny part is how unclear they are with the burn in warranty

[worn compass]

I have slight screen burn in on my iPhone 14 Pro, I thought burn in was like a rare thing but than I realized how easy it was for it to happen because it happened to me!

[random vortex]

Woled is less bright no ? I know qdoled has that Grey issue with a lot of Light

[ebon lodge]

with HDR OLED works great for the same reason really bright non-OLED screen work... contrast

so searingly bright or OLED in general = good HDR experience

[worn compass]

HDR looks really good, I think it’s really underrated for use when playing games

[ebon lodge]

OLED obvs wins for black detail retrieval

[ebon lodge]

agreed

[random vortex]

Zowie is still selling TN panel for 500€

Those Guys are GENIUS

[ebon lodge]

yeah, justifications for years for TN has been the faster response times

OLED also has the best input latency

[worn compass]

Their 540hz TN display is a thousand usd

[ebon lodge]

G-t-G response

[random vortex]

[jade widget]

Depends on the generation new WOLEDS get slightly brighter

[ebon lodge]

hard pass

[worn compass]

I currently own a TN panel monitor and the only thing keeping me from upgrading is the latency, only thing I’d ever upgrade to is an Oled display since it’s the only kind of panel that can beat TN in latency speed

It’s 1080p 240hz that I got around for $300 from the same company that sells that thousand dollar tn monitor lol

[ebon lodge]

Things can be a range... car analogy, super stripped down with nothing but for a specific purpose; think of an Ariel Atom, then others can be nothing but features think of a Bentley Continental GT, then some are a combination think of a Bugatti Tourbillon, both comfort, luxury AND performance

[worn compass]

I would need my brother to translate this for me, he’s a big fan of cars

[ebon lodge]

my bad, poor analogy haha

[random vortex]

Zowie can sell anything as long as pros are using it, it's insta sold out

[ebon lodge]

Good old marketing haha

"this famous guy uses this it must be good" logic

[worn compass]

They’re kinda forced to use it since it’s the only display they have in most fps tourneys so they end up buying one for themselves for when they go to a tournament they’re familiar with the look and feel of the display

[random vortex]

Tenz and optimum probably made Wooting more money Than any ads possible

[ebon lodge]

familiarity can be important, but people do have the ability to adapt to different things

[worn compass]

Word of mouth is the best kind of marketing a company can get tbh

[ebon lodge]

I listen to word of mouth a lot, and some credible reviews

[worn compass]

Same, I do intense research for products I’m thinking about getting so I don’t get screwed over or feel disappointed when it doesn’t meet my expectations

[ebon lodge]

yeah, I was a nightmare HiFi store employee... honest and liked objective measurements and numbers haha they wanted me more manipulative profiling people and selling cocaine to babies sort of thing... fkn retail

[worn compass]

People deserve honesty and better products than to be sold literal crap

[ebon lodge]

I tried to sell things on their actual demonstrable abilities not the shit the reps would tell us to push

[random vortex]

Word of mouth made me pre-order the 80HE and i got hit with 11 week delay

[worn compass]

Sucks to suck but we’re all in the same boat!

[jade widget]

Hey at least you don't get sent a bricked board instead

[ebon lodge]

Misery loves company

big mourning server atm haha

[worn compass]

Yeah, delay is all for the sake of quality assurance so I can wait, it’s reasonable

[ebon lodge]

group hug lulz

[gilded junco]

Yup that's the selling point of QLED

[jade widget]

QD-OLED goes a nice shade of purple in direct light, as long as you don't have a setup with direct light it'll be fine though

[shy scroll]

hey guys, i am trying to update my 60he in the browser wootility and it keeps saying to replug my device, but i do not unplug it, and i tcompletely stops the update

any idea what that could be fixed by?

[toxic zephyr]

go to a relevant channel

[lethal moss]

waking up knowing 80he is not near me

[worn compass]

Atleast you founders get yours in October

Us batch 2 guys have to wait over 100 days!

You guys have to wait 68 days until October

[dark cargo]

Because we ordered it 2 months earlier then u

[analog pilot]

Ayyy founders gang

[worn compass]

Yeah I totally never knew that

[analog pilot]

But yeah, I did order it ages ago.
I was waiting since the 60 but I don’t like super small form factor keyboards, so glad they did the 80

[worn compass]

Founders should be top priority in getting their product first since they’ve been supporting since the announcement

My point is that atleast founders don’t have to wait any longer

They’ve waited longer than anybody else

[midnight iron]

Just order and forget about it until later honestly is the best way to go about keyboard preorders

Half the time they get delayed for whatever logistical issue

[worn compass]

Honestly kinda hard to do when the order depends on email confirmation when I don’t really check that

Honestly now that I think about it

It’d be best to literally do just that. Forget about it. I’ll know my 80he will come in a month once people start uploading videos on it

The more I think about it the more it makes sense

I might just be sleep deprived

Goodnight wooting

[verbal solar]

good night!1!

[lethal moss]

true pain

[icy cosmos]

It’s easy once you have funded some kickstarter campaigns 🤣. At least we got community managers and a discord server 😉

[primal bluff]

do yall think that the 80he will get sent out earlier then mid nov or its gonna be mid nov FOR SURE

or later even

[worn compass]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[primal bluff]

nah im just askin as a genuine question like what yall think cuz im just gona do the 60he

[lime aspen]

Id say mid November or later

More than likely won't be early

[ruby siren]

Whats the real difference in the Wooting Two HE and the Wooting 80HE?

[waxen oxide]

i had the same question! turns out the 80he is the only one with true polling rate

feel free to correct me if i’m wrong :]

[ruby siren]

Does that mean SOCD is gonna be worse on the TwoHE?

[primal bluff]

is the 80 more worth waitying for then a 60

[waxen oxide]

for me, yes. i play extremely high level rocket league so any change in input delay is extremely noticeable. i just switched from a 1k to 8k polling rate mouse and it’s insane how much more capable i am.

if you don’t play a game at that high of a level then probably not

[primal bluff]

so theres a 1k to 8k polling difference?

[waxen oxide]

on my mouse! for keyboard the 80he is around 10x faster i think than the 60he, but i could be wrong :P

[valid comet]

elliot

[waxen oxide]

i take it i’m wrong

[primal bluff]

the resason i want the 80he is because of the arrow keys and f keys i do no want a 60 but that long is INSANE

[valid comet]

is that zane from ninjago

[waxen oxide]

yes it is gang

[valid comet]

that wave of nostalgia

[waxen oxide]

jump up kick back whip around and spin

[valid comet]

it hit me

[waxen oxide]

im in an online boyband rap group and we all ninjago characters

[ruby siren]

Why ever get a wooting two HE like whats the reason for people to buy it other than it being a full size

[valid comet]

that series first 2 seasons were so fire

[waxen oxide]

fr

[waxen oxide]

i’d only use it cuz its fullsize, if the 80he came out with a fullsize option i’d have gotten that instead

[valid comet]

just to have the wooting tech in a familiar layout

[waxen oxide]

what ima do when my 80he arrives is use an external numpad + media keys

[toxic zephyr]

that's the reason

[atomic brook]

because it is fullsized

[ruby siren]

AND it has all the stuff a wooting 80he has????

[toxic zephyr]

apart from 8khz, yes

[atomic brook]

8khz doesnt matter for coding and working

full size does

[ruby siren]

How much does wooting two have cause I cant find it

[toxic zephyr]

8khz doesn't matter for anything, actually

[midnight iron]

Well and the mounting difference, but tech wise it’ll do the same stuff besides 8k

[toxic zephyr]

I don't know

[atomic brook]

well yea

but the wooting team is very excited about it

[atomic brook]

so i will feel bad if i say that lmao

[toxic zephyr]

well nah, it's just a fact, differences are so miniscule that the keyboards are basically transparent at this point

any of them is fast enough

when I moved to a wooting one in 2017 the difference was night and day from your regular mech at that time, and the wooting one was SLOW compared to the HE-based boards of now

the firmware improved since then and the tech developed to the point where nitpicking about the latency differences is like the 10th thing in the chain of why you should consider a board

and spoilers, the speed upgrade didn't make me an FPS god, and that was on the order of 10-20ms faster than keyboards at the time

[jade widget]

they don't seem that phased https://youtu.be/EQzqN-fkO9E?t=680

[toxic zephyr]

the 0.7ms difference of 8khz to 1khz certainly won't

[quiet lynx]

the real difference is how they handle it on board itself

at least what they outlined on the blog explaining it

they're making sure the data is ready to be reported at the polling interval

there are other manufacturers where there is added latency wooting has very good benchmarks from what I've seen online

yet again when you take into account average reaction time - positioning in-game - etc

it's probably not gonna make you a better gamer

[valid comet]

polling rate doesnt make inputs faster between the kb and pc, its just how often they update whoch is 0.875ms faster on 8k vs 1k right

so if anything it just makes itmore "precise"

its just polling saturation

[vague prism]

???

[toxic zephyr]

?_?

it literally is measurably faster, that's all

[quiet lynx]

if you won a fight because the key data is being sent at a 0.125ms interval compared to a 1ms interval alongside other delays such as render times - animations - ping - server cpu cycles

you'd probably have won anyway

[sleek pelican]

it kinda does

i get what you mean

[valid comet]

like it doesnt phyaically get to the PC 8x faster

[gilded junco]

Was gonna ask about Roblox running for 15 hours lol

[valid comet]

thats not possible

[vague prism]

Its legit just open XDD

[valid comet]

thats the misconception

[sleek pelican]

but in use is practically does

[glossy heron]

True, its not 8x faster, but one step in the whole transfer is literally 8x faster, as long as the keyboard itself can update the data fast enough, that is

[sleek pelican]

the delayvis less because the correct more up to date information is sent to the computer

so it is 8x faster in practise

[valid comet]

so why does my k70 tkl on 1k feel the same as 8k

[sleek pelican]

because of diminishing returns

[glossy heron]

Most likely because the difference is small enough to not be noticed by us lol

Its a measureable difference, maybe not a feelable one

[sleek pelican]

you dont notice the difference, and other larger factors come into play like frame gen speed or fps

[toxic zephyr]

not 8x, but about .7-.8ms

[valid comet]

and why does the click latency on like idk a ulx or beast x not differ from 1k, 2k, 4k, or 8k

or does this only apply to kbs

[jade widget]

because click latency isn't as important as say sensor latency

[glossy heron]

Again, polling rate is only one step in the chain, many other factors play a role

[quiet lynx]

what's more important in mice is the positional data being updated at the faster rate but it's still diminishing returns with clicks you're manually pressing a switch which introduces reaction speed and travel speed

alongside networking in most multiplayer games

[valid comet]

i mean click latency and polling rate not the sensor

i dont care about the sensor

im trying to understand the clicks

[quiet lynx]

because it's hard to notice a difference between fractions of a ms

especially when you introduce client side feedback in a multiplayer environment

and frame times

game engine cycles

[valid comet]

im talking raw data, not in practice

no external factors

[quiet lynx]

well you'll always have factors

when your using an operating system with drivers

if you remove those your mouse just makes clicking noises

[sleek pelican]

mice just work differently iicr

but idk if true

[quiet lynx]

you don't even know what kind of drivers the mouse is running

[jade widget]

you want the best click latency? https://tpucdn.com/review/endgame-gear-op1-8k/images/clicklatency.png

[quiet lynx]

for all you know the "raw data" could be modified on the driver level

[glossy heron]

-1,3 ms? 😂

[quiet lynx]

or add excess delay with debounces

[chrome spindle]

It predicts where you aim 😋

[sleek pelican]

dont shame it lol

thats good, like time travel fast

[glossy heron]

That mouse knows where i want to shoot before i do, damn

[sleek pelican]

prefires would be crazy

[median lantern]

WL BEAST X MAX is better

[jade widget]

"Please note that the result given above only accounts for firmware-level latency. Physical latency, which describes the act of physically actuating the switch, is not accounted for, but that is precisely what is modified by enabling GX Speed Mode. Thus, in order to measure the difference between the GX Safe Mode/Off and GX Speed Mode settings, the end-to-end-latency function of LDAT has been employed, and the result is a relative difference of 1.4 ms. Relative to the measured click latency of 0.1 ms, we thus arrive at a negative value of -1.3 ms, which of course is not a depiction of actual latency, but rather the result of mixing two sources of latency. In practice, however, the OP1 8K will indeed be faster by the indicated amount compared to the other listed mice."

[glossy heron]

Wait, are we approaching -2 ms? They said it couldnt be done...

[valid comet]

i would like to try and understand why polling rate would matter between say a 80HE 1k vs an 80HE 8k and how it improves the latency using comparisons but I cant see it.

[quiet lynx]

it doesn't

the founder even says so in multiple places

[valid comet]

who gaslit me into attempting to think otherwise

[quiet lynx]

not sure

[valid comet]

because I knew I was right

[valid comet]

i stood by this info

[gilded junco]

Yourself maybe lol?

[valid comet]

wrong, it was someone else

[sleek pelican]

its more of a technicality than a practicality

[lofty viper]

should i get this keyboard?

[chrome spindle]

Yes and get the zinc frame

[sleek pelican]

it is better, just unnoticable to p much everyone

[lofty viper]

Zinc frame?

[valid comet]

point is polling rate alone doesnt really do much to the delay, its mostly about # of updates

[chrome spindle]

Zinc alloy casing instead of plastic

[sleek pelican]

ya

still makes it faster slightly

but only one factor

[lofty viper]

wootang 60he or the 80 which is better

[valid comet]

and ot does NOT send info from the device to the pc 8x faster

[quiet lynx]

it does

[chrome spindle]

Preference. You lose some keys on the 60

[quiet lynx]

it's just not humanly noticeable

[lofty viper]

just the number keys right

[sleek pelican]

90he technically, but its mostly down to which layout you like

[chrome spindle]

Yeah

[sleek pelican]

not 8x, there are other factors

[lofty viper]

how do you press f1 n sutff on 60

[sleek pelican]

i think fn+1

[chrome spindle]

There’s an FN key you need to hold down and then you press 1 (f1), 2 (f2) etc

[sleek pelican]

ive never owned a 60% lol

[chrome spindle]

you also lose your arrow keys which some games require

[lofty viper]

what

[quiet lynx]

from the wooting blog they make sure there is data to be sent at the polling rates interval 0.125ms so it is sending it 8x faster

[lofty viper]

does the 60he plus have the razer snappy thing?

[quiet lynx]

https://wooting.io/post/wooting-80he-the-true-polling-rate

you can read it here

[chrome spindle]

all wooting keyboards got it

[lofty viper]

ok

[sleek pelican]

yes

[late drum]

Should i can my 80he preorder and get a 60he? Although i prefer an 80% keyboard, I need a new keyboard soon because my current one is breaking.

[lofty viper]

sorry for asking never heard of this keyboard

[sleek pelican]

nah its good

[chrome spindle]

That’s what the server is for I guess

[valid comet]

dude, thats the amount of updates, thats not the speed of the packet what are you on

[lofty viper]

so 60 is ame as 80 just less keys

[chrome spindle]

yeah

[lofty viper]

ok thanks

[sleek pelican]

there are other differences

[chrome spindle]

And some minor details like the polling rate but it apparently doesn’t change much

[glossy heron]

Lol, the physical layer is fast enough that its not necesarry to include in the comparison

[quiet lynx]

"The MCU on the 80HE checks every single key for new input, every 0.125 ms. In the same timeframe the MCU has to convert the signal it gets, which is a voltage, an analog signal, to a digital signal. On top of that the MCU needs to process things like Rapid Trigger, activation point and all that kind of logic within the 0.125 ms. "

it's literally in the blog

[sleek pelican]

60he has a strap, 80he is gasket mounted etc

[valid comet]

is this something to do with 8k polling vs true 8k

[quiet lynx]

yes

[sleek pelican]

thats the time for one factor of the process

[valid comet]

oh my god that explains everything

[quiet lynx]

other keyboard manufacturers might not have the data of the keys within the 0.125ms window but wooting is claiming they will

[shell monolith]

You can definitely tell the difference between 1k and 8k

[valid comet]

isnt this going to be a first for a magnetic kb?

[quiet lynx]

But it's still correct to say it's 8x faster

[glossy heron]

My man just experienced an epiphany, today is a good day

[sleek pelican]

its like if one contestant of an obstacle course was identical to another contestant but did hurdles 8x faster

it makes it faster, but not 8x faster in total

[quiet lynx]

it is diminishing returns though

[valid comet]

hell yeah brother

[quiet lynx]

I will never claim 8000hz matters

[sleek pelican]

its not 8x faster, just one step is

[lofty viper]

are there any discount codes

[quiet lynx]

with every contributing factor the difference of 0.875ms doesn't matter

[quiet lynx]

@sleek pelican this was the question though

[valid comet]

despite the sayodevice only being 3 keys and 8k, is it TRUE 8k like the 80HE? does anyone know

[quiet lynx]

I've said multiple times in here

it's not actually gonna matter

[deep oyster]

Love what you guys did, i just ordered mine 5 mins ago. Cant wait!!!

[cloud yacht]

bro wooting keyboards are so sick

[sleek pelican]

#💬│general message

0% off

[glossy heron]

Not that i know of, but o bought the KB yesterday, and there was a small sale going on, think around 3% total?

[sleek pelican]

ye but it actually isnt 8x faster technically either

even without human reaction being taken into account

its decently close

[atomic brook]

yup

[sleek pelican]

but there are other things that thr board does to send inpits to the computer

[quiet lynx]

The question was whether the board sent the data 8x faster to the PC not taking into account any other factors

from wootings claims it does

[sleek pelican]

oh wait

[cloud yacht]

i want a wootings keyboard so bad but i live in a third world country

[sleek pelican]

ur right

[cloud yacht]

[sleek pelican]

cause they are same speed

neato

[valid comet]

so like a keystroke despite the human not feeling it should be sent 8x faster to the pc when comparing 1k and 8k? and no one else who has "8k" has even done this?

[glossy heron]

Fuck you, brother 😂
And i already bought the damn thing anyways!

[quiet lynx]

I'm not currently aware if other keyboard manufacturers are doing this

they'd probably advertise it though like wooting is

so probably not

[valid comet]

sounds like a crime

how do they not get called out for false advertising istg

[cloud yacht]

ong

[quiet lynx]

because they claim to have 8k polling

[lofty viper]

the wooting 60he+ is wired right?

[quiet lynx]

no promises they send the key data fast enough for the polling to matter

lmao

[glossy heron]

Yes, i believe they all are

[atomic brook]

[valid comet]

all are yes

no wireless wooting

[lofty viper]

do you know how long the cord is?

[valid comet]

1.8-2m

[glossy heron]

2 meters on the 80HE, i believe - not sure about the others

[valid comet]

1.8m, 2m for the 80HE, a bit strange i know lol

[lofty viper]

m?

[glossy heron]

meters

You know, the unit all civilized nations use these days

[cloud yacht]

[atomic brook]

2.114 × 10-16 light-years

[glossy heron]

A man of culture, i see

[lofty viper]

so its 78 inches

[glossy heron]

Seems like it

[lofty viper]

i think google might be wrong

oh it actually is dang

[glossy heron]

Yeah, pretty long cables

[lofty viper]

ok

thats good

thank you 🙏

[glossy heron]

You are welcome

[lofty viper]

just ordered the 60he+

cant wait to use it

[cloud yacht]

what are some cheaper alternatives to wooting

[glossy heron]

Kinda BM to ask that in the Wooting Discord 😂

[cloud yacht]

true

im a brokie cant afford wooting

[valid comet]

i am canadian

[glossy heron]

To be fair, there is a lot of keyboards on the market, Wooting is catering to the segment of people who like to tinker with their devices, the enthusiasts of this little pocket.

[cloud yacht]

its not often that you see keyboards which focus on performance as much as wooting

[glossy heron]

If you dont have a lot of money to spare, it might be better to look into the budget offerings from the usual brands, your Logitech, SteelSeries or whatever

[valid comet]

and who actually give a shit about real #s and performance

[cloud yacht]

everything is just the rgb bullcrap

[valid comet]

yet wooting still does it better and is not a priority

[cloud yacht]

well uh seems steelseries doesnt ship to serbia

the cons of living in a third world country i guess

[glossy heron]

Lets be real, we all do this because we think its fun, not because there is an actual noticable difference... Well, now that Razer started the whole SOCD thing, its not completely true, but still

[glossy heron]

You guys dont have local stores with the usual brands?

[cloud yacht]

nope

maybe the capital does

but i doubt steelseries

[glossy heron]

Webshops then?

[cloud yacht]

90% of the cities dont even have an apple store

[cloud yacht]

some dont ship, like steelseries

[glossy heron]

I mean local webshops, webshops located in Serbia

[nova nexus]

If our keyboard is a stretch for you, better to not buy it. Put the money you save in getting a much cheaper keyboard towards a different part of your gaming setup that has a bigger impact, like a better CPU or GPU

[cloud yacht]

its funny how bad the most popular webshop in serbia is

you can only filter by category

nothing else

[cloud yacht]

just bought a brand new entire setup like a month ago 😬

the keyboard im currently using is 25 euros

[valid comet]

exactly

[glossy heron]

Look at this, Wooting itself encourages to only buy if you got the money for it, otherwise go for something else. This is why i am here

[valid comet]

i do it only because its fun

[cloud yacht]

wootings too cool for me not to want it tho

so many cool features

2 results for wooting on serbias most popular webshop

[valid comet]

wooting of all my keyboards makes the most reliable and consistent input device though

[cloud yacht]

260e for the he60 is crazy though

[cloud yacht]

technically 1, the other guy is just asking for a swap, apex pro for a wooting

[glossy heron]

Oh, dont get me wrong, the product is certainly worth the asking price, but it is an enthusiast products, no doubt there!

[nova nexus]

Ooeh even better, we ship direct to Serbia; buy two 60HE's and resell one at a profit

[glossy heron]

Brah, thats based

[cloud yacht]

i saw, but people here are very picky about their money

they wouldnt buy a keyboard which is more than 50 euros lol

also kinda hard to even buy two of them when they would literally cost me the monthly salary in my city 😬

[glossy heron]

To be fair, two of the 80HE's i have bought would be a months rent for me as well 😂

[cloud yacht]

[ruby siren]

X

[glossy heron]

Y

[cloud yacht]

Z

[valid comet]

there are other kbs by other companies and you get an objectively worse product by corsair logitech or razer in every way possibly, yet you pay MORE

[cloud yacht]

its quite funny that i discovered wooting in a tiktok comment section because some guys were arguing what keyboard brand is the best

[valid comet]

so given what wooting is charging, its expenaive but fair

[weary glade]

Could the Zinc Alloy cause problems with Allergies and stuff?

[atomic brook]

yup

cancer and all that

[cloud yacht]

thats it

[glossy heron]

If you are allergic to Zinc, i suppose so

[atomic brook]

just cancer

[cloud yacht]

wooting keyboards are a global health hazard

!!!

[weary glade]

alr thanks

[glossy heron]

Wait, no, that was a joke, im not a doctor 😄

[prime steeple]

I have a quick question does the new feature rappy snappy included in the wooting two HE?