🌟│wooting80he

[tight cypress]

Spacebar is chewy, and doesn't taste like Twix at all

[fallen epoch]

I do like chewy snacks

[storm grove]

Oh, that makes sense

[toxic zephyr]

...someone should make a chocolate bar that's called "Space Bar" and it would be spacebar-shaped and with a galaxy design

move over Mars, there's a new king in town

[tight cypress]

Wooting Confectionery division when?

[high scroll]

is the pre-built version gonna be only black?

[nova nexus]

Limited edition Take Chocolate Keycaps

[rough stream]

did you watch the new video haha

[fallen epoch]

10/10 would order anotherfor me, myself, and I

[nova nexus]

Perfect for your all-chocolate keyboard build!

[rough stream]

white will be coming too right?

[rough stream]

oh hellnaw

[sterile walrus]

Is this a Willy Wonka?

[nova nexus]

No, this is a Wooting

[low token]

Tho spreading mayonease with wooting spacebar is possible?

[rough stream]

btw do we know about rgb?

[nova nexus]

There will be RGB

[rough stream]

I see

[low token]

That's secret wooting product?

[high scroll]

rgb

[fallen epoch]

Wooting Wonka at your service

[primal dew]

What will be difference between 80he and 60he

[plain atlas]

Mostly

• Size
• Polling Rate

[low token]

Layout gasket mount v2 lekkers 8k pooling rate

[plain atlas]

^ that too!

[low token]

[primal dew]

Is that really big differencw bc i switched from 1khz to 8khz mouse and its not that big difference and i prefer a smaller keyboard

[low token]

If you prefer 60%. 60he will be better pick

[primal dew]

Okay thanks

[low token]

Unless you need more buttons

[plain atlas]

yeah thats the case for most people :D unless you are a real sweaty esports player, it doesnt really matter too much between 1 and 8K polling

[buoyant cape]

Hey kinda new to this so hopefully thats the proper channel to ask but do we know if the 80He pcb is directly buyable at the release?
And what about case compatability?

Would be my first time building my own keyboard and wanna avoid as much problems as possible

[nova nexus]

Our 80% keyboard doesn't follow any specific case standard because there isn't really any standard for that size and mounting style.

When the Founder's campaign starts, we'll have a few different case options that come as a "prebuilt" keyboard, as well as a few extra case options that can be paired with a "module" version of the keyboard.

It will not be possible to purchase it without also including some kind of case, but whether that comes preassembled or as a kit depends on your choices in checkout

[buoyant cape]

Thanks and what about the Raptor He? Can or is the 80he changed in a way where these switches are gonna work without any problems?

[tight cypress]

So no cardboard 80HE

Raptors HE should work as they do on current keyboards

[upbeat berry]

their magnets are too strong

they are read as 4mm when they arent at 4mm

[buoyant cape]

Yep

[tight cypress]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[upbeat berry]

i dont know of any intention to change the sensor on our side but id have to check with the hardware dev team

[buoyant cape]

Thanks would appreciate it

[humble cargo]

limited edition eating kebab at your computer keycaps

[echo kernel]

60he chat gone

where can we talk about 60he now?

[sleek spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[nova nexus]

#💬│general 🙂

[sleek spruce]

okay...

[echo kernel]

Okay...

[tiny tartan]

Will the 80he come with stickers

[low token]

Bigger post card so we can send Bigger painting to wooting office

[buoyant hamlet]

[tiny tartan]

[neon marsh]

8 days 🙂

[ionic wren]

will the increased polling rate of the 80he affect performance as much as polling rates increases on mouse?

my valorant is unplayable if i put my razer mouse on 4k polling

[lapis galleon]

no

wooting has an explanation in one of their weekly update videos

[ionic wren]

i was watching it

someone deleted it haha

[lapis galleon]

I did, dont think that was the right video

its in #📣│announcements

[nova nexus]

It shouldn't have an impact like mice do, for reasons that are beyond me technically. Also yes there will be an option to set it to 1k

[ionic wren]

thats good to hear

that was my only worry with the 80he

[plush dagger]

yeah higher polling rates at least on mice tank framerates on most pcs

[tight cypress]

Mice reports to PC pretty constantly, even smallest movement must be reported
Keyboards only when you actuate/de-actuate a key

[plush dagger]

i dont even think for a super sweaty esports player it will make any noticeable impact but i could be wrong it will be interesting to see what people think when they have their hands on it

[frigid ravine]

yes it'll make ur pc crash

[low token]

So it will be perfect for osu

[tight cypress]

https://wooting.io/uwu

[low token]

No 8k pooling rate tho

[tight cypress]

Doesn't really matter in rhythm games
You want consistency there, not speed, and for that 1k polling is more than enough

[tawny flame]

Usually means your system is not up to date. I play on 8k polling daily but switch to 4k to save battery.

[dense ridge]

what kind of games do you play?

[tawny flame]

Valorant

[vapid storm]

expected from a weak leader

[humble cargo]

valorant basic bitch competitive fps

[tawny flame]

I mean why else do you need a great mouse and wooting? Valorant/CS... the two best Competitive FPS in the world

[vapid storm]

for cs it was definitely worth it, aside from that we can always look at our cool equipment

[tawny flame]

I play Tarkov/Valorant/CS.. Wooting might do nothing or something... I suck

[humble cargo]

because its a good kb

don't need to be a valorant/cs/tarkov sweatlord to appreciate that

[dense ridge]

i mean, it depends also on a game.. even on high end pc u can have problems on some games with 8k polling rate mouse

[frigid ravine]

it depends on ur hardware and game compatibility too, sometimes even with high end pc and newest systems it'll still cause stuttering with 8k polling mouse, on Apex for example it only works on dx12, on dx11 it has stuttering

[carmine torrent]

i need it now

[low token]

You have to wait for q3

[carmine torrent]

I NEED IT

[tight cypress]

Wooting Instant Wormhole Shipping™ is currently only supported in Scottish Highlands area, and even that with varying degree of success, so you won't get it right now

I'd rather not, it's sleep time

[tight forge]

https://tenor.com/view/idontneedit-spongebob-meme-ineedit-gif-19085880

[drifting phoenix]

Lots of latency-sensitive games that benefit from low latency peripherals

[low token]

I wonder how it would work on t1 cs2 matches

[drifting phoenix]

T1?

[low token]

Tier one

Teams that qualify for majors etc

[drifting phoenix]

I’m positive lots of pros of FPS games use Wooting boards

Except for Apex apparently 😞

[low token]

Tho na cant qualify

In cs

[drifting phoenix]

That would cut me to the bone if I knew anything about CS

[low token]

Well game is easy at core but hard to master

And it is best tactical shooter

@drifting phoenix tbh cs and lol has atleast live crowds

[drifting phoenix]

Yes, I played CS in 2001

1.3 - I just mean I have no clue about pro teams or regions or anything

de_dust gang

[umbral locust]

Which is wild because apex really benefits from the wooting's tech

[drifting phoenix]

Has to be a miscommunication internally

Or complete lack of understanding of what rapid trigger is

Macro functions for movement I can see being disallowed maybe, but rapid trigger?

[steady escarp]

Another weekly update today?

Or is that Friday

[plush dagger]

yeah its crazy for apex from what i have seen

[violet dagger]

Does it cost anything extra to join the founders campaign for the early benefits of pre ordering or is it free

[spark hound]

I expect it to be the same price

Maybe even extra Founders perks

[violet dagger]

How much was it for the previous one

[spark hound]

60he? No clue

It might be on the blog?

[jovial ferry]

https://wooting.io/post/wooting-60he-rewards-and-perks

[rose crane]

is tommorow the new update video?

[tight cypress]

Yup

[rose crane]

i assume with pricing and colours?

or rewards for the founders campaign

[sour tree]

well see

[midnight iron]

it's already tomorrow if you go to sleep right now

[jovial ferry]

"Next week I'll share more about the founder's perks, estimated delivery date and pricing." That was said about this weeks video

[rose crane]

hmm true true good thinking

[vestal haven]

is this really gonna be available in Q3 ? I need to replace my Corsair K100 Air now

[jovial ferry]

Yeah, we will know better dates after todays video, but expect it to be Q3

[tight cypress]

Current plan is to deliver by late summer

[vestal haven]

Can Wooting make a wireless keyboard ? 80HE Air ?

[jolly tangle]

no

[jovial ferry]

Quoting Calslock from yesterday: "Wireless would eat through the battery in a blink of an eye due to Hall Effect and LEDs
And as Counter said - bigger latency, cable wins this one"

[jolly tangle]

who is counter

[jovial ferry]

I dont know ask Calslock 😉

[tight cypress]

Oh, the side thread https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1214905993893515306, forgot about it

I should also mention that it'd most likely require PCB section/daughter-board dedicated to BMS, so that's that

[jovial ferry]

and also what was mentioned few times, shipping stuff with big batteries is a logistic nightmare

[vestal haven]

i would still hope for a wireless version even one without the Hall effect switches

[vernal quest]

can we have some probleme with 8000 hz polling rate ? like mouse have somtimes ?

[vestal haven]

is G502X Plus + Wooting 80HE + Artisan Mousepad the best setup in 2024?

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[midnight iron]

keyboards don't have nearly the cpu stress that mice do for polling

[vestal haven]

lol alright

[midnight iron]

mice update x y constantly at high dpi which is a big factor in them having an impact on your system when you're talking 4k+ polling at that higher dpi to purposely saturate the signal

[vestal haven]

that would be great if the light bar on 80HE can display my hp left in valorant

[umbral locust]

You find it convenient to look down on your keyboard for such info?

[jovial ferry]

was about to ask the same question. How do you find it easier to look at the keeb rather than screen?

[vestal haven]

if it lights up like green, yellow, red for low hp, that could be helpful in an instense situation

[umbral locust]

I doubt it is gonna be bright enough for you to be able to tell with just your peripheral vision. And looking on your keyboard while oyu game is just not optimal.

Just look at the screen bro lol

[vestal haven]

or if it lights up when my ult is up to use, that could be helpful too on Leagues. lol

I seriously think the knob/dial for volume control is neccessary for keyboard nowadays

I hope Wooting the next project will include that

[tight cliff]

On the G502 you can just assign the extra buttons for that but the 80HE will have a Knob add-on

[jovial ferry]

there is knob addon for 80he

[vestal haven]

its just different when its on your keyboard

[jovial ferry]

we have no info yet how exactly it will look/work

[vestal haven]

oh there is ?

alright ~ looking forward to that

[tight cliff]

But we will know more in due time

[vestal haven]

I dont have this mouse with me yet, but you know, who wanna use mouse to control volume , right ? on keyboard so much better

[tight cliff]

Yeah i've had a 75% with a knob didn't get used that much honestly but it's nice that Wooting is offering this

[tight cypress]

I dunno, knob is kinda a waste of space on keyboard for me
You don't change volume that often after all

[tight cliff]

And with having a wireless headset i just use the volume wheel on it

[tight cypress]

I wonder how knob add-on will interact with SDK, I'd love to make small companion app for it, which would allow for changing per app volume, that'd be hella useful

[vernal quest]

they gonna make a version 60 % of the pcb with 8000hz ??

[tight cypress]

Currently no plans for it

[vernal quest]

aie

they have to ,no? they gonna make it for sure later .. no ?

[lime falcon]

why ?

[umbral locust]

Am willing to preorder one right now.

[vernal quest]

beceause they start with big format and they go smaller

[tight cypress]

Probably? 80HE is first project with new MCU, if 8K integration goes well, then maybe 60HE 8k will show up...
But no plans for it in foreseeable future as for now

[lime falcon]

do u think you will notice 0.875ms diff?

[vernal quest]

no chafie

[lime falcon]

chafie

😭

[vernal quest]

shafie

[tight cliff]

Yeah the knob can be useful in situations

[lime falcon]

knob is great, wonder where will they put it, there is literally no space for it when i look at the picture lol

[vernal quest]

so maybe there is gonna have some new probleme with the first version of 80 he cause of 8000 hz

[lime falcon]

dont expect massive problems

[vestal haven]

there you go, the new 80HE+knob design, #wooting you can hire me lol

[lime falcon]

what is that

ahh hell naaah

i hope they wont make knob like that

this knob is way better no?

[umbral locust]

better layout too kek

[lime falcon]

maybe true

[tight cypress]

Tis not a knob, tis a roll

[vestal haven]

yea this one is good too of cus

alright, roll is good too, at least something more intuitives for volume control

[lime falcon]

i mean this layout is pretty good also

unique

[umbral locust]

its uhh ... certainly unique

[lime falcon]

knob will make it look better imo

[vestal haven]

I would rather have a roll/knob instead of the LED light bar

[lime falcon]

nah led is fine, it will have some functions too iirc

[winged birch]

I hope they made Untamed’s knob design work, that’d actually be massive.

It’d also be very easy to replace if it breaks unlike conventional knobs. 😒

[lime falcon]

do you have a picture of it?

oh i found it

damn

thats actually massive, common untamed W

[winged birch]

He could prob patent it too if he’s willing to go to that trouble

It’s a genius design I hadn’t seen before

[lime falcon]

yea they really have to make like that

[vague stratus]

[verbal solar]

noo

[haughty cedar]

7

[karmic canyon]

its hard to tell because its just a picture but are the bezels for the 80he bigger than the 60he? or rather why isnt the bottom bezel for the 80he slanted like the 60he

[molten arch]

I think they went with burger mount and thats why it has to be bigger

[tiny tartan]

is the new 80he video due today? or was it gonna be a live stream

[pseudo parrot]

they come on fridays typically i believe

[nova nexus]

Livestream tomorrow

Not actually sure if this week will have an update video for 80HE or not, it may just be a blog post

It'll be a very text-based update with here's the configurations, here's the pricing, here's the perks type update

[tiny tartan]

nice my favorite type of update

[pseudo parrot]

great, im excited now

[dense ridge]

That text update gonna be today?

[astral fiber]

Any big difference between 60he and 80he?

[nova nexus]

It's already after 5 so I presume not

[upbeat berry]

80he has more keys, has JIS and 8khz i guess

[nova nexus]

And gasket mount 🙂

[upbeat berry]

oh yeah gasket mount only

and ||secret stuff we will reveal later that also makes it cooler than the other keyboard you mentioned|| is also better than the 60he

[tepid terrace]

ooo

[bold shuttle]

Hopefully that LED bar is a touch slider that can be used like a knob for volume and other sliders?

[golden tendon]

is it gonna be a feature or a keyboard design cause im regretting ordering a60he but at the same time i dont wanna wait 3 months for 80he to ship

[high ether]

yep

I still have yet to be convinced why this keyboard needed an led bar over a roll or knob for volume

or why it couldn't have both

[molten raft]

Is it possible to make the colors go faster depending on how fast you are tapping?

Like if I have the rainbow setting while playing osu!, can I make the colors go faster if I tap faster?

[limpid plaza]

Thats a question youtube can answer but i dont think you can do that.

[mild grove]

its Sora v2 + Wooting 80He + Dornfinger Rawpad v2 Summer Edition (thank me later)

[tight cypress]

There's Spin lightbar layer effect, which is dependent on APM, you may try that

[blazing maple]

same mine comes tmr 😭🙏

[molten raft]

Where?

[mild grove]

80he got rgb lightning ?

[fallen epoch]

Yes

[tight cypress]

Ah, shucks, it may be only available on UwU

[molten raft]

I c

[lapis galleon]

theres no "best setup," whatever works for you is whatever works for you. theres no point in striving for the "best setup" anyways, at the end of the day all that matters is skill.

[hallow river]

Wtf are you yappin ab…

[tight cypress]

[haughty hull]

whats the price guys ?

[tight cypress]

Tomorrow

[worthy wigeon]

Will the wooting coiled cable be compatible with the 80He ? @upbeat berry @nova nexus

[vapid storm]

how much is that in euros?

[tight cypress]

At least 80

[vapid storm]

80h€

[tawny flame]

10 euros

[mild grove]

what do you think preorder in this month ?

[tight cypress]

yes

[oak jungle]

I hope will be there an option to pick the yellow switches I love them

[jolly tangle]

yes

last video

🙂

[next prairie]

Probably for gasket mount

Not sure

[vapid storm]

because it's smart

[upbeat berry]

im sure i brought this up internally but have no idea where it ended

[vapid storm]

modelled after @upbeat berry

[worthy wigeon]

Will the wooting coiled cable be compatible with the 80He ?

[plain atlas]

Don't see why not

[tawdry fiber]

Buy 80He now during founder campaign or wait until reviews before buying?

[umbral locust]

Fivehead for a large horizontal knob ofc

[umbral locust]

If you like the layout just buy it now

[tawdry fiber]

I don’t like 80He’s “fivehead for a large horizontal knob ofc”

[queen nebula]

Will the coiled cables out rn fit the wooting 80he?

[upbeat berry]

so i quickly checked back and there sadly isnt enough time to redo the gasket mount system

thats the reason for the "forehead"

[umbral locust]

Ngl i dont like the 80s layout to begin with

[queen nebula]

Hey man will the coiled cables fit the wooting80?

Bc I read it’s too thick for the wooting 2 he

[tacit valve]

is the 80e buyable rn??

[queen nebula]

No

[upbeat berry]

no

[upbeat berry]

id have to ask that as well

[tacit valve]

wish wooting sold transparent keycaps

i need a nice set

[low token]

If it fits in 60he propably it fits. Because why release coil cable only for 60he

[tacit valve]

@upbeat berry https://amzn.eu/d/04fGk4q will they work on the 60he+?

[low token]

Well always you have third party keycaps

[tacit valve]

my luck ill buy a set and they wont fit

[low token]

Well it looks like clones

[upbeat berry]

so i checked internally and the coiled cable should fit

[low token]

If it dosent fit. Just return it

[upbeat berry]

should fit idk why that profile wouldnt work. i did not check the specific set though and youre best helped in #🔧│keyboard_modding

[tight cypress]

Will fit, although their photos are not great...

[tacit valve]

hmm, ill look on kbdfans for a better set

[worthy wigeon]

Thank you! Excellent news!

[worthy wigeon]

Will they redo it later on without that forehead?

[upbeat berry]

idk if we will redo/update it

mainly depends on how well it sells i imagine

[nova nexus]

There's no intention to change it; it's inherent to the gasket design

[upbeat berry]

there you go

[low token]

Redo = real tkl

[upbeat berry]

you want a wooting twohe remake?

[nova nexus]

Yes

[upbeat berry]

lekker edition arm 8khz

[nova nexus]

Yes 😄

Giveee

[low token]

[upbeat berry]

id buy that instantly

[vapid storm]

I want a keyboard that makes a RAWWRRRR panther sound every time I press a key

[low token]

Irl or windows?

[upbeat berry]

yes

[vapid storm]

you know a speaking keyboard, I could just make something to play out of my speakers out of any keyboard

but the real innovation would be if the keyboard SAYS it

[nova nexus]

There's a secret firmware easter egg that if you press the UwU in just the right way, you can hear Calder's voice squeaking UwU

[low token]

Well there is memory on keyboard. Add memory and speaker

[vapid storm]

no no it needs to be a real mouth

[low token]

Sussy

[vapid storm]

the mouth could have other use cases as well

[low token]

Weird

[umbral locust]

👀👀👀

[muted relic]

does the 80HE have lighting under the keys as well or only on that lightbar?

[tight cypress]

Under the keys as well

[muted relic]

sweet thanks. my current keyboard has neither lighting nor letters printed on the keycaps and sometimes when im eating a messy meal in dim-ish light and trying to poke a reply out on the keyboard with 1 clean finger or a knuckle its really one of the most frustrating things ever lol. so that is a feature i really want in my next kb

[tight cypress]

That's a very specific use case, but 80HE will do

[muted relic]

heh I know, but it's happened so many times that i've hit my breaking point. I must have the 80HE, I'm just hoping the price point for the mainstream model isn't too painful

[tight cypress]

I'd expect for it to be close to the price of other Wooting keyboards

Soon we shall see

[high ether]

Can someone explain the point of the lightbar?

[jolly tangle]

the lightbar is an interactive component. it can react on different settings on the keyboard. e.g. there will be a knob addone and the lightbar can show how the volume.

[viscid owl]

IT LOOKS RAD

[carmine torrent]

I need it

I NEED IT

[fading timber]

Hope there's a nob for wooting 80

[lime falcon]

knob?

Yes there will be

[glad fable]

they plan to have a knob version but not at release I believe

[low token]

Knob is a sin

[winged birch]

Because of its typing angle. They wanted a straight down/inwards top edge so to say and had to enlarge the forehead to accomplish it. IMO not at all worth the tradeoff but that’s the reason.

There’s also lots of room for the screws this way.

[winged birch]

^

[haughty cedar]

6

[winged birch]

I agree.

[lyric nymph]

more news monday?

[winged birch]

This is more like it.

[winged birch]

Hopefully!

[lyric nymph]

prayge

Want to see my lil knob on a zinc case

[manic shale]

Js bought a 60he+ now theres a new one 😭🙏

[thorn charm]

Same 😂

[fast pier]

saw the 80 literally the day after i ordered the 60🙃

[glad fable]

I mean you can always cancel it and wait

[bleak dust]

Guys, when we can buy it?

late this month?

[midnight iron]

#📣│announcements

Should be a more detailed post/video todayish with pricing and other details

[bleak dust]

thx

[spark hound]

You'd buy anything instantly 😉

[molten raft]

WHY IS THERE A LENNY FACE IN THE WOOTING SOFTWARE

[winged birch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter vector]

Always has been

If u rename a keeb profile & didn't insert a name the lenny face will be inserted

[upbeat berry]

na i waited with the module until like end of last month

[acoustic jasper]

Need a sound test of 80he before they open founders preorders

[lime aspen]

Might not happen however id assume it'll sound a bit better than stock 60he

If not quite a bit better

[acoustic jasper]

They’re still using lekker switches which are difficult to make sound good, hopefully they have other switch options like gateron dual rails or jades

[lime aspen]

They are using lekker 2.0s though

[midnight iron]

It’s not the current lekker switches that they’re using fyi

[lime aspen]

80he comes with revamped lekkers

Just so I know the lekker 2.0s are for sale separately too right

Definitely wanna pick some up when they release

[midnight iron]

It’s basically replacing their current switches once it’s done. They’re a separate project

[acoustic jasper]

Any changes they’ve stated?

[lime aspen]

Is there an ETA once they will be for sale/available? Or is it still just sometime after 80he

[midnight iron]

just that the focus was on fixing wobble and seeing what they can do for sound

[midnight iron]

no eta because it's separate from the 80he, just that the switches would be ready in time for the 80he at least

[lime aspen]

I see thank you

[acoustic jasper]

That’s good, those are the only two issues

[midnight iron]

honestly switches shouldn't be a worry anyway since 80he will be available in barebones as an option anyway - which would mean no switches/keycaps and you pick your own switches if you're worried about lekkers

[lime aspen]

Whenever they are available I'm certainly picking some up, hopefully I can afford alumaze + PC plate when that happens as well

[midnight iron]

calder has stated they want to get more switch options in their store already, so that if for example you didn't want lekkers and wanted gateron jades then you could just buy them at the same time in the wooting store

[nova nexus]

This is confirmed to be completely compatible

[verbal solar]

Meow

[safe meadow]

I dont think they mentioned anything about sound when talking about switches specifically. That being said 80he will have gasket mounting which usually has good effect on sound profile but this affect all switches be it lekker v1 or v2 or jades

[digital elm]

no way, jades are for sure in the store, that's so cool

[ocean blaze]

Anybody can give me some advice? Got the wooting two, but unsatisfied, typing experience isnt the greatest, and i realized i dont need the numpad. But I freaking loved the performance. I really enjoy an F row, so the wooting 80 looks amazing. But damn those aluminum cases available for the 60 really seems cool, and for the sound thats a huge plus.. Idk what to do cause I cant buy both :C

[midnight iron]

80he has a metal option too fyi if that was your issue with it

[ocean blaze]

OOoo yea nice, i will happily wait for that one then :)

Thx for the reply

[sage reef]

buy 60HE or 80HE but also buy a cheaper like 75% exploded kb with Tactile switches (probably non-HE), and swap between them for different use cases.
also sell TwoHE ofc, to afford this

like where are the Tactile HE switches, that also fit wooting kbs etc. someone link

are Gateron KS37B Hall Effect Switches Tactile?

someone please already make Tactile HE switches, what is even happening. big market gap to fill.

[tight cypress]

Modded leafs from KS-22 Blues work pretty nice as tactiles
Leafs from KS-22 Browns... not so much, I still have no idea how to secure them in the same place consistently

[sage reef]

yeah but it's optical, and I think can't even adjust actuation, and ofc no rapid trigger.

[tight cypress]

Nonono - open and take out clicky metal bit from KS-22s, and put them in Lekkers/Jades/Raptors/whatever

[sage reef]

ah ok, need to look into it. (of course you're overpaying a lot this way)

[tight cypress]

Did both already
Clickies #🔧│keyboard_modding message, based on Kai's idea #🔧│keyboard_modding message
Tactiles with browns leafs #🔧│keyboard_modding message
I should also post tactiles v2 with leaf from blues

[winged birch]

https://www.youtube.com/live/dpzAs2HZlxU?si=InG2tptwt0U4RDUp

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-joker-heath-ledger-the-dark-knight-and-here-we-go-gif-17775369

[winged birch]

No.

[sage reef]

unfortunately I found out that 75% exploded is like the biggest I can go, because centering keyboard on yourself with G | H, even with 75% kb extends too far to the right (already with 60%). just doesn't look or feel particularly good, and eats up mouse space even more.
so 80HE is not really an option because of this (to like mod it with leafs so they're Tactile or something). Would only go for some special edition that has arrow section on the left instead, because notice how much better the G | H is centered on it. https://i.imgur.com/lBtVTul.png

[winged birch]

The baffling thing is that KS-20s (5 year old switch) and Jades have a slot for leafs (not 22’s leafs) yet Gateron never manufactured them for some reason.

[tight cypress]

And they aren't even the same mould
But you don't hear me complaining about that

[winged birch]

That’s what I mean, Gateron designed that intentionally just to do nothing with it TWICE 🥴🥴🥴

[last wasp]

Price for 80HE $199 / 220€

[winged birch]

Spot on.

[last wasp]

Take my money already!

[midnight iron]

Our church has succeeded! Praise be!

[winged birch]

🔥

[last wasp]

White translucent hype!

[winged birch]

Translucent speckleless smokey, holy

80HE ABS Case $200/€220
80HE Zinc Alloy Case $300/€330

[jolly tangle]

@tight cypress ask what colors will be available

[tight cypress]

Mark already said which ones, I'm looking for it

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-lie-lol-not-telling-the-truth-that-was-a-lie-gif-13885912

[jolly tangle]

dw i ask mark later for a recap

its fine

[sage reef]

better switch lineup includes Tactile? prob not I guess

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-lie-lol-not-telling-the-truth-that-was-a-lie-gif-13885912

Mark is confusing me 🤣

[midnight iron]

did they say price for module pcb + zinc case?

[tight cypress]

For plastic:

• black
• translucent smoky without speckles
• white translucent (only with module)
  For zinc:
• black
• white
• raw zinc (only with module)

[midnight iron]

been trying to work back to front to see what the pricing is minus switches for pcb + zinc case, i think it's $265~ if my rough math is right?

[tidal creek]

What are the founder perks? thanks

[tight cypress]

Plastic module
$185/€205 without switches and keycaps
$230/€250 with
Zinc module
$265/€295 without
$310/€340 with

[midnight iron]

yeah been trying to figure out the last price that wasn't mentioned which is zinc without switches and keycaps. I think it works out to $80 for the zinc case there right?

[jolly tangle]

@tranquil void gets weak knees from metal colors

[jovial ferry]

question why is the price in euro so much higher compared to dollars? Is it import duties or what?

[winged birch]

What’s €250?

[tight cypress]

Module

[winged birch]

It’s everything in Europe.

[lethal abyss]

its not higher in euro

usd price just doesnt include VAT

since those are different in every part in the US

[winged birch]

Module alone €250?

[tight cypress]

With switches and keycaps

[jovial ferry]

oh yeah forgot that US doesnt include tax in prices

[winged birch]

The Module with switches and keycaps is €250 and the 80HE is €220?

[tight cypress]

Yup, it's a bit more expensive because shipping reasons

[buoyant junco]

Is there a discount for preordering with the founders campaign just like there was with the 60he

[winged birch]

Hmm, for who would that be?

[tight cypress]

Well, pre-assembled keyboard is one box, done
Module will be multiple SKUs/boxes

[worthy wigeon]

They say the will resell the gateron jade switches. Doesn't those switches limit the total travel to 3.5 mm?

[winged birch]

I’m confused to who it is for. There will be a preassembled version of every ABS and Zinc Alloy case?

[worthy wigeon]

Apparently yes.

[jovial ferry]

They do

[low token]

299€ for most expensive eu 80he zinc alloy right?

[tight cypress]

Plastic white transparent and Raw zinc will be only available with module

[midnight iron]

usd not euro, euro more due to vat

[worthy wigeon]

And those are also lighter than the L45 right? Between 30 force to 37?

[winged birch]

Yes but Wooting’s keyboards detects the total travel distance of a switch and adjusts dynamically.

[tight cypress]

30~50g, very similar to L45s

[worthy wigeon]

Ah, so they are heavier then

[tranquil void]

RAWWW

[tight cliff]

When do they update the site? Want to see what's up on some page instead of this wall of text 👀

[tight cypress]

Founder perks:

• Discord role
• Your nick on the website
• Free Lekkers L45 v2 90-pack with pre-assembled keyboards or buy one get one free with module

[tranquil void]

fuck im gonna be broke as fuck

[worthy wigeon]

tomorrow there will be a short video

[worthy wigeon]

Plus a pack of free switches (not gateron ones)

[tight cypress]

Just updated, my PC is really wonky today

I guess it's stressed before today's imminent reformat

[winged birch]

Free switch pack is odd, can you opt out as well?

[tight cypress]

I guess so

[worthy wigeon]

I mean it's a good perk. I couldn't figure out if the lekker V2 Switches are gonna be the ones used for the 80HE

Since they stated they were working on the V2 Switches, but i couldn't grasp the concept if they will be in them or those switches will be available later on.

[low token]

They will be and in later batches They will be in 60he+

[winged birch]

The 80HE will come with L60s as we don’t offer any other switches at this time (something along the lines) then later talking about the Lekker V2s; they will come in the 80HE.

I’ll await the video tomorrow

I have more questions than I did before stream 💀🤣

[worthy wigeon]

So i guess that applies to the L45 (which will be V2) free switches that they will give... right?

Lol imagine, we will give you free switches but the V1 version (hence, deploying the overstock they have on the store)

[winged birch]

I don’t they’d offer a pack of V1 Lekkers as a perk if the 80HE will come with V2s, so I think yes, the free switch pack will be V2s.

[tight cliff]

I'm out and about so same, waiting for the video or some page so one can see what's up

[low token]

So if you have prebulit. You will get l45 v2

[worthy wigeon]

Or L45 V1 lol

Hopefully they will give us V2

[tight cypress]

Perk is free pack of V2 switches

[low token]

It is v2

[rose crane]

how much is perk again?

[winged birch]

Good

[buoyant jacinth]

Founders campaign perks are only available to those who preorder during the Founders campaign

[rose crane]

ow okey thank you

[upbeat berry]

no extra pay is what khang means

[rose crane]

how long is the pre order time? do you guys know that?

[upbeat berry]

32 days up until 15th (?) of april

not sure if head calendar math is right

[rose crane]

okey thank you

[buoyant jacinth]

Just to clarify this more, the free switch pack will be a 90 pack, not a small pack or anything

In case anyone was wondering just how many you'd be getting for the perk

[tight cypress]

Oh, there will be 90-pack, nice

[pseudo parrot]

epic

[sage reef]

so only L45, no free L60 pack?

[low token]

Zinc comes with travel case

[jolly tangle]

nice woothelp cals

[upbeat berry]

of your choice as far as im aware

[low token]

L45 is if you have prebulit as mark said for module propably people can choose

[lime falcon]

sadly there wont be white plastic case (not translucent)

[buoyant jacinth]

If you purchase a Preassembled 80HE, since it comes stock with L60v2s you get a free 90p of L45v2s during the Founders campaign

If you purchase a 80HE Module, then if you buy any switches* with your order you can choose to get either a free L60v2 90p or L45v2 90p during the Founders campaign

*I'd need to confirm whether or not we plan on providing this perk if you don't order switches from us

[low token]

White would look bad tho

[sage reef]

and the cost will be less doing it separetly?

[lime falcon]

what? why

[jovial ferry]

btw maybe someone knows, so I dont need to shoot an email to support. What is the country of origin for EU vat invoice? I would like to purchase the keyboard as a company to deduct VAT, but I dont know if it will require me to apply additional documents.

[winged birch]

Will there be more info available on the switches during the founders campaign?

[low token]

They are from netherlands

[jovial ferry]

awesome thanks

[violet dagger]

damn i was hoping for this

[upbeat berry]

if you get the invoice from the hub you can enter your vat id and itll contain all details from us including our vatid

[sage reef]

so almost everyone will probably just buy separately I guess, because no one really has use for L45

[buoyant jacinth]

Personally, I don't know as that's not what I work on, not sure if we'll have info to share during the campaign

but during/after the campaign as the switches progress I would expect more info to be released

[jovial ferry]

will check that, thanks for the info

[low token]

Well if you are fortnite sweat

[sage reef]

ok so buying Module, then getting free 90 switches, then keycaps = cheaper than buying preassembled right

nah it's not I guess

[low token]

Module has more choices in colours

And it has higher price

[upbeat berry]

eventually yes

[winged birch]

I sure hope so. I don’t think it’s a good idea to keep people in the dark about what they buy.

[lunar arch]

Please don’t hate me for asking this but is the transparent case a reality

[polar quarry]

Sorry if this was asked, can i buy an additional case as an add on?

[upbeat berry]

i wish but as far as i know we wont do a clear case only colored translucent

[steady escarp]

so tranaparent is happening?

[midnight iron]

Livestream cliff notes:

• Base plastic pre-assembled 80HE $200 USD with L60 version 2s (available in black or translucent smoke grey with no speckles)
• Zinc alloy 80HE pre assembled $300 USD with L60 version 2s (available in black or white)
• Barebones 80He module pcb + plastic case $185 USD without switches/keycaps (white translucent plastic color is available for module buyers)
• Barebones module pcb + zinc case $265~ USD without switches/keycaps (raw zinc alloy color is available for module buyers)
• Euro pricing will be tad higher due to VAT included (non eu buyers won't have vat added as per usual)
• Zinc case comes with a free travel case
• Founders campaign perks include: a free 90 pack of v2 lekker switches, discord role, name on website
• Gateron Jade switches will also be buyable direct from wooting store as well
• Lekker V2 confirmed again to improved wobble and have some change(s) to the switch itself
• Some other behind the scenes work being done on switch dev but they can't say more

[steady escarp]

do you mind if I copy paste this into pericord?

[midnight iron]

go for it, only thing I have to confirm is the barebones module + zinc case price since that wasn't mentioned but it's a rough guess based on what the plastic full price is vs. zinc full price

[lunar arch]

Where can I order the smoke grey translucent?

[nova nexus]

80HE layouts, configurations, and pricing!

All configurations available in ANSI, ISO, and JIS

Assembled, plastic (opaque black or translucent smoky)

Includes:

• keyboard with plastic case
• pre-installed L60 switches
• pre-installed PBT keycaps
  Total = $200/€220
  Total excluding VAT: €181.82

Assembled, Zinc (black or white)

Includes:

• keyboard with zinc case
• pre-installed L60 switches
• pre-installed PBT keycaps
• travel case
  Total = $300/€330
  Total excluding VAT: €272.73

Kit, Plastic (opaque black, translucent smoky, or translucent white)

Includes

• module
• plastic case
  Sub total = $185/€205
  Sub total excluding VAT: €169.42
  Extras:
• switches: $25/€25
• PBT keycaps: $20/€20
• ABS keycaps: $10/€10
• Travel case: $30/€30
  Total for full package = $230/€250 (ABS: €240)
  Total excluding VAT: €206.61 (ABS: €198.35)

Kit, Zinc (black, white, or raw zinc)

Includes:

• module
• zinc case
• travel case
  Sub total = $265/€295
  Sub total excluding VAT: €243.80
  Extras:
• switches: $25/€25
• PBT keycaps: $20/€20 (ABS: €10)
  Total for full package = $310/€340 (ABS: €330)
  Total excluding VAT: €280.99 (ABS: €272.73)

Accessories

Travel case stand alone option:

• $35/€40 (ex VAT €33.06)
  Wrist rest stand alone option:
• $30/€29.99 (ex VAT 25.79)

[midnight iron]

there we go

[carmine torrent]

oh snap

[midnight iron]

okay nice so $265 was right

[upbeat berry]

raw zinc aka not painted or anodized or such

[midnight iron]

I assume the raw zinc is clear coated though right? Not to be confused with raw option from custom keyboards where it's not coated and you're expected to paint and coat it

[upbeat berry]

the stream was restarted or reconnected i believe

[nova nexus]

Blame Sander's computer

I'll fix it, sec

[lethal abyss]

Blame no multistream so it’s not on twitch :p

[nova nexus]

Fuck Twitch lol

[lethal abyss]

Doesn’t hurt for multistreaming though?

[midnight iron]

i am curious to see how grey/silver/bronze the raw zinc looks

[dense ridge]

@nova nexus 20 euro discount for the founders for Assembled, plastic 80he =)?

[low token]

Well multi stream on twitch should be possible with no problem

[winged birch]

Nope

[violet dagger]

looks like no discount this time

[sage reef]

harder to keep up with multiple chats tho

[winged birch]

discount is a pack of switches, kinda

[nova nexus]

The prices listed above are post-discounted, as in the discount ahs already been applied

[dense ridge]

200 euro is my psychological limit 🙂

[violet dagger]

makes sense

[winged birch]

How much will it be after the founds campaign?

[nova nexus]

Example; the 90 packs of switches will retail at $50, but when included with a module are priced at 50% off to be $25

[tight cypress]

Given new MCU $199 is really nice
I was expecting $220~230 or so

[nova nexus]

Same pricing, founders' campaign value perk is the free switch pack not special pricing

Yes

[winged birch]

Yeah okay, so no discount on the preassembled plastic 80HE was what he meant.

Could be nice if you can exchange the switches for a discount.

[dense ridge]

yes, even 20 euro will be better

[carmine torrent]

raw zinc looks like what

[winged birch]

Switches would be worth more than €20 so I think that’d be fair.

I doubt most would care for an extra pack tbh

[violet dagger]

Does anyone know what the white translucent case looks like

[carmine torrent]

like shiny silver?

[winged birch]

Like aluminum I believe

[sage reef]

preassembled shouldn't be discounted, because it takes work to assemble it
and the opposite for non-assembled

[winged birch]

Raw doesn’t imply that it’s polished 😉

[carmine torrent]

hmmm

[tight cypress]

Similar to that, but without speckles

[winged birch]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[dense ridge]

what should i do with that extra pack of switches bro? 🙂

i would prefer 20 euro dicount more.. to be able to pre order the keyboard for 200 euro

[lime falcon]

😭

[winged birch]

Not sure. A nice snack maybe?

[dense ridge]

better for 199.99

[lime falcon]

ahh hell naah

[tight cypress]

Always keep a pack of switches around

[violet dagger]

interesting

[sage reef]

arrows still in right place

[last wasp]

Its my go to option

[tranquil void]

I'll take raw Zinc, full option

[tranquil void]

no that's the left place

[tight cypress]

Translucent smoky for me
Although kinda bummer that it's without speckles .-.

[lunar arch]

Take my money I want to buy now

[last wasp]

What colour keycaps?

[midnight iron]

where's calder when we need someone to leak the raw zinc photo a day early

[winged birch]

I wonder if the Zinc will have empty pockets like the plastic, if not you’d be able to machine the forehead clean off 😂😂

[lunar arch]

Translucent smoky for me

[carmine torrent]

literally

[bold monolith]

To get a pack of switches for all pre-orders is amazing, thx for this!

[tight cypress]

Some grey and light blue, something similar to https://osume.com/collections/winterglow/products/winterglow-eve-keycaps

[carmine torrent]

I thinkkkk I might do black zinc, it goes better with my white mouse pad

[violet dagger]

does the pre built versions only come in black keycaps or does it come in white as well

[last wasp]

Ooh nice! 😎

[sage reef]

in politics left is right tho, so makes sense here too

[wind tiger]

I think your zinc cases are not anodized

zinc anodization is quite expensive (and kinda pointless)

[lunar arch]

Is the zinc case heavy with everything ?

[upbeat berry]

was generally explaining what raw metal means

[polar quarry]

if i can't decide between the colours will the other case options be available later on?

[wind tiger]

zinc is denser than alu, if I were to guess it will prob be like 2-2.3kg?

[nova nexus]

White Zinc and translucent white come with white keycaps

[winged birch]

In the votes A was left and B was right, twice.

[nova nexus]

Exception is ISO languages for which we don't have PBT keycaps

ISO-FR and ISO-ES

[sage reef]

in politics, left is not popular either, but still right

[nova nexus]

And ISO-IT if we get that going in time for launch

[sage reef]

75HE exploded and I buy instantly, but unfortunately a bit too big and off center, also arrows, will have to pass on this one

[wind tiger]

ah, yea
in the case of zinc not having it coated is entirely non-problematic sind it basically doesn't oxidize unless you use it as a sacrificial anode.
So it would not be an issue with it (unlike raw alu cases which are getting popular for hte look recently)

[winged birch]

there is no preassembled translucent version though?

[wind tiger]

you want a 75 without arrows?

[winged birch]

translucent white

[carmine torrent]

[tranquil void]

I could eat the zinc case

then I wouldn't need zinc tabs

[violet dagger]

Okay awesome

[digital elm]

Will the module version with the zinc case at $310 include switches/keycaps?

[daring flax]

yes

[winged birch]

No

What?

[nova nexus]

Valid point, yea, just the preassembled white zinc comes with white keycaps then

[winged birch]

😂

[carmine torrent]

200 iq

[winged birch]

Alright.

[tranquil void]

Yeah

[digital elm]

Are you asking me what?

[nova nexus]

That price includes having added Lekker switches and PBT keycaps via our store, yes

[winged birch]

I’m questioning reality rn

[daring flax]

just the gateron jades along with the standard lekker switches iirc

[carmine torrent]

Same

[steady escarp]

Jades being available from wooting is a big W

[nova nexus]

Lekker V2s (L60 and L45), Gateron Jades, ||REDACTED||, and ||REDACTED||

[carmine torrent]

erm

[digital elm]

Okay, thanks!

[steady escarp]

TWO MORE?

[nova nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-doctor-who-gif-8623491

[carmine torrent]

what the flip is a redacted

[low token]

[digital elm]

Ohhh, that’s what is going to be revealed during campaign

[steady escarp]

KS-20U maybe??

[daring flax]

mark has more surprises than we thought bahaha

[silk narwhal]

Is there any advantage to having a plastic case vs aluminum case other than build quality?

[digital elm]

Unless there is another thing tba during campaign on top of 2 types of switches

[carmine torrent]

[jovial ferry]

Question will all of the redacted parts, knob etc gonna be know when the campaign starts? Or will it be revealed later down the line?

[silk narwhal]

Thanks!

[somber condor]

Is there an official (even approximate) weight for the two keyboards? I'm wondering how much heavier the zinc version is over the plastic.

[carmine torrent]

Wait so which is better

IM A NOOB HELP

[buoyant junco]

If we decided to buy the plastic version rn but later wanted to upgrade to the zinc case would we have to completely purchase a new keyboard or would we be able to upgrade the case by itself?

[jovial ferry]

most of the people preffer the sound of metal cases. There is no better here though as its all subjective

[nova nexus]

If I recall correctly, the preassembled Zinc keyboard is going to weigh over 2kg

Don't quote me on that one though

[carmine torrent]

so zinc is better

[nova nexus]

I expect that the cases will be sold separately as well, though at a higher price than when paired with a module directly

[carmine torrent]

what is that in freedom numbers

[verbal solar]

zinq case for 60he when?😁

[jovial ferry]

If you like more robust, heavy case and like how metal cases change the sound profile then yeah

[nova nexus]

Google it 😛

[tight cypress]

Over 2kg

[violet dagger]

This is a good question does anyone know?

[sage reef]

🙏 for special 80HEaven edition in a year, so I can actually buy https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1194715804126683337

[carmine torrent]

4 pounds?

[nova nexus]

@violet dagger

[daring flax]

its not per se "better" as it is just up for preference for acoustics. if you like thonkier keyboards then get metal, if you dont, or just dont have the money, get a plastic case

[low token]

3kg 80he when

[carmine torrent]

Thonkier…..

[sterile walrus]

I'm interested in the 3rd party cases when they eventually come.

[midnight iron]

If you try to defend a home invasion with a plastic case it'll be much harder than using a zinc alloy case

[sterile walrus]

Facts

[last wasp]

Zinc case + weight

[low token]

No no steel + brass weight

[violet dagger]

Ty

[carmine torrent]

yeah I’m sold

[winged birch]

The Zinc module with switches and keycaps is €20 cheaper than the ABS module with switches and keycaps? Compared to the preassembled versions*

[nova nexus]

Bring a keyboard to a gun fight?

[carmine torrent]

bring a mouse to a keyboard fight?

[verbal solar]

thocky HE switches when?

[opaque ridge]

Is there a suitable shell for 80he now?

[winged birch]

It’s got Rapid Trigger for a reason

[low token]

Is it possible to break watermelon with 80he?

[carmine torrent]

[nova nexus]

With enough velocity, sure

[daring flax]

with enough velocity its possible to break anything

[midnight iron]

Actually to be safe you want 2 zinc alloy cases. One for each hand in case you need to use them for deflecting bullets. This was tested in the documentary 'x-men origins' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiEuzkJDwUg

[carmine torrent]

NUH UH

[low token]

Guys have you tried spreading mayo with wooting spacebar? How thin is spread

[carmine torrent]

what

[tight cypress]

Made small reference table

[opaque ridge]

So 80he won’t have an aluminum shell?

[jovial ferry]

will all of them be available to choose when the campaign starts?

[carmine torrent]

real Wooting

[buoyant solstice]

Plastic or zinc

[carmine torrent]

zinc zinc zinc zinc zinc

true

[low token]

It is zinc alloy or plastic third party propably will have alu or plastic only

[buoyant solstice]

(If anyone makes a compatible case)

[opaque ridge]

What is the difference between zinc and aluminum? I haven’t used zinc shells yet.

[carmine torrent]

90% polyester 10% zinc

[winged birch]

The difference in price for the preassembled and module version is €15 for the ABS and €35 for the Zinc.

[carmine torrent]

zinc is better

[safe tundra]

Hey frens

[opaque ridge]

nice

[low token]

Well china loves money so case for 80he is possible

[daring flax]

the number on the periodic table obv (sturdier)

[safe tundra]

I only caught the end of the live stream. Did they address prices for the founders?

ooops

[winged birch]

Check pins

[daring flax]

@safe tundra

[winged birch]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[carmine torrent]

I can’t wait any longer

[tight cypress]

Looks like it, yeah

[carmine torrent]

I’m coming going to the warehouse and stealing all the keyboards

[low token]

Are you sure

[winged birch]

Interesting

true

[low token]

Steel 80he case

[carmine quail]

kinda sad a white one is atleast 250 euros since theres no preassembled white plastic version

[obtuse wagon]

$200, not bad not bad

[winged birch]

This is odd, translucent white seems discouraged and zinc encouraged

[low token]

Well prices are like i thought

[last wasp]

What colour will the exchangeable feet be? Do they match the case colour?

[carmine quail]

why are dollar prcies lower than euro prices though, last time I checked (just now) the euro is worth more than the dollar

[pseudo parrot]

because of vat, check marks pinned message you see prices with and without vat

[carmine quail]

ah

[midnight iron]

The church of the white 80he zinc alloy has reached our peak membership. Glory to the white 80he zinc alloy!

[fallen epoch]

oorah

[obtuse wagon]

We do it by state here in the US, they even separate it by online vs in person sales

[winged birch]

how much would it be with vat in the us?

[obtuse wagon]

Guessing the same as EU if we had VAT

New Yorkers may pay a little more than I do tho, I know that state has high online sales tax

[tight cypress]

EU's VAT is ranging between 17~25%
US' is between 3~8%, so...

[fallen epoch]

all i know is zinc, all i see is zinc, all i believe is zinc, all hail zinc

[obtuse wagon]

Shesh that is alot

[winged birch]

https://tenor.com/view/running-leaving-luggage-late-airport-gif-13227915

[woven hollow]

EU puts it to the healthcare system, we put ours towards the Unhealthcare system

[obtuse wagon]

Factssss

[daring flax]

WHAT THE FRICK IS A LOW HEALTHCARE BILL 🔥🔥‼️🔥🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲‼️🔥🇺🇲‼️‼️🦅

[fallen epoch]

a true american, woot bless

[wet tangle]

is there a picture of the raw zinc case?

[obtuse wagon]

So what is everybody getting? Zinc, Plastic?

[woven hollow]

Zinc in White probably

[obtuse wagon]

👀 I just heard "free"

[fallen epoch]

zinc for sure

[waxen turret]

I'll make my on case, for sure

[last wasp]

White translucent, jades

[tight cypress]

Plastic in smoky black

[waxen turret]

purple anodized brass

[daring flax]

i really want zinc but idk if i really wanna sink 300 into it

[proud stone]

In Europe everybody jokes about the us healthcare thingy, but is it really the case that you, personally, have to pay the enormous bill of like lets say $50.000 for going to the hospital because of an xray scan? Or does the majority have a private health care that is affordable?

[woven hollow]

Purpln Anodized DN

[proud stone]

Never really grasped how it works, its not like everyone has to go into 5 digit debt cause of a flue right

[woven hollow]

Most private healthcare makes it pretty affordable

Its not consistent though

[proud stone]

I see thanks

[carmine quail]

also way more common to make 6figures in us than it is here in europe

if you make 6 figures here you are a giga rich snob

[midnight iron]

we didn't get a leak yet for it, so have to wait for video/blog post it seems

[winged birch]

Will the 80HE include keycaps not in Wooting’s keycap set? R4: Del, End and PageDown/R3: Insert, Home and PageUp.

[daring flax]

most health insurance pay a decent amount on it, but in all reality hospitals hand you a small fraction of the bill and take the rest as a loss (so they can avoid taxes)

[obtuse wagon]

You are either broke enough to get free healthcare, or you make enough to afford healthcare

[fallen epoch]

accurate

[obtuse wagon]

all the peeps in the middle dont go to the doctor

they just deal with it, until its an emergency then get treated at a hospital an never pay the bill

[daring flax]

most jobs offer healthcare plans

[proud stone]

Oh ye I think I read something similar to this, can you tell me a bit more about that in #💬│general ? Like, how small that friction is for lets say an x-ray scan that usually would cost $10.000 in this example

[tight cypress]

I don't think so? Plan is to include standard TKL set of keycaps

[fallen epoch]

thats what a lot of the older dudes i see down here do, they're very stubborn about it

[winged birch]

Ah okay, so you’d only be able to swap R3 with R3 and R4 with R4 keycaps.

[fallen epoch]

but yeah black zinc is probably what ill end up with once im able to buy. i like a good metal feeling

[jovial ferry]

Wanted to go for white zinc, but since I ordered gmk t3rminal keycaps I think it will end up as a black zinc

[pseudo parrot]

Probably plastic I like translucent things, I’d get zinc but traveling with that brick isn’t as desirable lol

[rose crane]

is this still going to be revealed or did they reveal it in the live stream

[daring flax]

its only gonna be about 2kg (supposedly)

[pseudo parrot]

I’d already have a lot of other things in my backpack so I prefer to keep it light, but that sounds nice

[tight cypress]

Campaign starts in 6 days

[pseudo parrot]

I guess I will wait til more pictures come and make the final decision then

[rose crane]

so its not revealed

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-surprise-liz-lemon-30rock-thats-a-secret-you-have-to-wait-and-see-gif-21884301

[winter coral]

hmmm not clear from the newest video. lekker v2 dual rail or not.

[jovial ferry]

they are less wobbly, but I believe they are not dual rail

[lime falcon]

wonder if they will have closed bottom like jades

[jovial ferry]

I believe it was said on one of the streams, no closed bottom

[lime falcon]

rip

[jovial ferry]

you will be able to buy jades from wooting directly, so you can grab a module and jades

[lime falcon]

i think i will get 80he but later when people will test it

[lime falcon]

80he module?

[jovial ferry]

you can buy 80HE pcb and case, without switches and keycaps

so you can buy 80HE pcb, plastic or zinc case and grab jades from wooting

[winged birch]

Knob prob

[waxen turret]

so, sadly no pcb only version 😦

[lime falcon]

oh really damn

i didnt know u could get plastic case separately

[lapis galleon]

not yet, there wont be any third party cases available at launch (unless you make your own)

[waxen turret]

But thats what I platned in my Head.

[lime falcon]

that will be cheaper? or not really

i guess a bit cheaper

[jovial ferry]

Just to clarify, you need to buy a board and case together, but you dont need to buy switches and keycaps

[jovial ferry]

it will be

[lapis galleon]

it'll probably be more expensive

[winged birch]

It is!

[jovial ferry]

not if you already have switches or keycaps

[lapis galleon]

well yeah in that case it'll be cheaper

[jovial ferry]

@lime falcon check this #🌟│wooting80he message

[winged birch]

I’d argue that I’d then still be cheaper to get the preassembled and resell the Lekker V2s and keycaps if you so please.

The 80HE’s module+ case is quite expensive

[pseudo parrot]

oh this is nice thank you cals

[winter coral]

would be cool to get the preorder for lekker v3 in campaign

is clear dual rail will come later the year

otherwise i get a free bundle for trash can or second hand market directly

[winged birch]

What?

[winter coral]

we value ecology with the board, but this is unnecessary rubbish. don't want an intermediate version when the really better one comes in winter.

[winged birch]

The extra switches will be the V2s

[winter coral]

in the livestream they announced big news for switches later the quarters

[lapis galleon]

what are you talking about? the 80he comes with the lekkers V2.

[winged birch]

Uh

[winter coral]

this is just a temporary solution...not the big bang

[sterile walrus]

God I hate that show

[obtuse wagon]

I mean people need to improve the keystroke they have keyboard market has invented product for user error

[midnight iron]

i'm confused why you think it's a temporary solution

[obtuse wagon]

Never thought I would see such a thing, but I guess people buy into it 🤷‍♂️

[lapis galleon]

and where has this been stated? they said they wanted to improve their switch lineup this year, but also said that the 80he will come with new and improved switches.

[safe tundra]

I don't know what you mean

[midnight iron]

he might be one of the people under the impression that V2 means just the same V1 but tighter (which it isn't)

[winter coral]

14:25 in livestream

[lapis galleon]

which one?

[midnight iron]

tweaks to the mold

[winter coral]

and 15:10 v3

[midnight iron]

yes they're experimenting with some other stuff, but we don't know what that means

[winter coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNrBrbyFCL0

[winter coral]

well you have to admit, this is v3 🙂

[obtuse wagon]

They suggest something but never state it will be a V3

WHATTTTTT

[midnight iron]

it can mean a lot of things, they don't necessarily mean people will prefer them

[jovial ferry]

I mean those might as well be a completely different switches not even lekker

[obtuse wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-bigworm-smokey-smoke-answer-me-gif-13580450

[midnight iron]

it can mean experimenting with silent switches for example (which has been hinted at in past livestreams as an option)

[lapis galleon]

they said the lekkers v2 will be available with the 80he. what they were talking about after that was that they want to increase their switch lineup.

[obtuse wagon]

That would be cool

[lapis galleon]

this doesnt mean better switches, just different

[obtuse wagon]

Seems to be a question I have seen asked alot over the year

[winter coral]

everybody is doing the dual rail shit now...its just normal they will do it aswell. they stated gateron fucked them with coming out without announcing early dual rail. its in the pipe..100%.

[midnight iron]

in switch tech there's a lot of things you can do that are sidegrades

keep in mind dual rail doesn't even necessarily mean tighter wobble - some of the tightest switches aren't dual rail

[winged birch]

A better question is when tf are we gonna get tactile and or clicky leafs for the lekkers 😤😭

[sterile walrus]

Eeeeeeewwwwwwww

[obtuse wagon]

Why tf would you want a tactile bump in a HE switch

[midnight iron]

for example, you can have different types of stems, you can have different materials (eg nylon), silent switch types

[sterile walrus]

Because, mech nerds

[lapis galleon]

they said options, nothing was stated about releasing a better switch

[winged birch]

because you use it for typing and dks is a thing too

[obtuse wagon]

give me would good example of actual use in a game

typing is not for a gaming keyboard my dude

[winged birch]

and Lekkers have slots for LEAFS

[sterile walrus]

It's literally a gaming keyboard and people forget it

[winged birch]

this is an out of this world take

[sterile walrus]

Not really

[obtuse wagon]

I mean of course you type on it

[winged birch]

Yes really.

It’s a keyboard

[sterile walrus]

What does all of their marketing and detail on the site advertise it as?

[obtuse wagon]

But people wanting to make this a actual work load keyboard are the prolem imo... everybody can have a take

[sterile walrus]

Sure

[vapid storm]

mmmmmm load

[winged birch]

What are these takes man? 😂

[sterile walrus]

But they're missing the whole genesis of the board's creation

[obtuse wagon]

I like the gaming focus they have, it beats all the other gaming boards

[winged birch]

It beats all other keyboards in performance.

[sterile walrus]

It was made to be a performance gaming keyboard, you want to use it for something else, more power to ya. But don't expect them to change their direction to satiate your preference.

[winged birch]

The rest is preference

[lapis galleon]

I really dont see the issue with having tactile lekkers, it could (and probably would) be an alternate switch offering you could purchase seperately

[obtuse wagon]

You dont need performance for excel, emails, you are asking me what are my takes

comon get real

[sterile walrus]

And we're saying they're not going to waste time with tactile/clicky when they are still developing and improving the performance side first.

[winged birch]

Lekker switches have slots for leafs, tactile would be useful for DKS as it has quite a learning curve to it without.

[winged birch]

You’d buy a gaming keyboard for gaming and a typing keyboard for typing the switch the two each time you game or type?

[obtuse wagon]

But DKS for what purpose has "quite a learning curve?

[sterile walrus]

Cool. I'm sure someone else will do it. It's clearly not something that Wooting is interested in so bitching about it here seems fruitless.

[obtuse wagon]

No because I dont type for work, if I did I definetely would

[winged birch]

To actuate at 0.4mm and 3.6mm accurately.

[pseudo parrot]

yea i guess you are right, for any school work i prefer the moonlander, but not everyone will bother with multiple keyboards

[sterile walrus]

I use my 60HE as my main board including work and I've never cared that the switches weren't clicky or whatever.

[lime falcon]

people yapping literally on anything these days

bro just use the keyboard tf?

[lapis galleon]

I wouldnt mind more switch options tho tbh

it could just be optional, dont buy it if you dont want tactile switches

[winged birch]

Calm down there bud, as I said, the Lekkers literally have a slot designed for a tactile or clicky leaf.

[obtuse wagon]

I want the springs already, screw new switches

[pseudo parrot]

i developed some wrist pain after using the wooting for typing, thats just my experience though

[sterile walrus]

I didn't mean to sound aggressive, I'm just pointing it out because it is brought up almost as much as the TKL/insert form factor

[obtuse wagon]

Guessing you type a ton for work?

[winged birch]

Why do you think that is?

[pseudo parrot]

programming and typing yea, pain is gone now that i stopped typing on it

[obtuse wagon]

Well thats an easy fix

[sterile walrus]

Because a very vocal minority of keyboard enthusiasts are obsessed with sound over every other aspect and constantly harangue about it

[winged birch]

I never said for work, general typing/productivity and gaming.

[sterile walrus]

Not saying you specifically. I'm talking about some

[obtuse wagon]

productivity would be work, the leasure typing I do, I dont mind it at all on a 60HE 🤷‍♂️ if I worked like @pseudo parrot an programed I would have a seperate keyboard like they do

[pseudo parrot]

wooting is the best gaming board ive had no doubt, but yeah for me i need split keyboard for productivity, easier on my arms hands and shoulders

[obtuse wagon]

Think V has a Moonlander also an keeps wanting Wooting to do a ortho spilt

[winged birch]

It’s not about sound. Even if it was the 60 mainly but 80 too are aimed towards enthusiasts as well.

[obtuse wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-536487951695337499

[pseudo parrot]

infact thats the guy that introduced me to moonlander 😂

[winged birch]

You’d personally prefer a different layout for typing? That’s the reason Wooting is a gaming keyboard not to be used for productivity?

[obtuse wagon]

If I worked a ton a people suggested it enough, yes

[winged birch]

Besides layout, what other reason should someone use a separate keyboard for productivity?

[obtuse wagon]

Having something that fits that category more

[winged birch]

Hmm, how you mean?

[pseudo parrot]

i know of a few who prefer tactiles for typing, for example

[obtuse wagon]

Not trying to take a single keyboard an turn it into the best at everything

Then its good at nothing

[winged birch]

Besides layout, what other factor is objectively better in a keyboard that fits that category more than Wooting’s boards?

I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from.

[obtuse wagon]

🤷‍♂️ no idea, once again I dont do work on a keyboard, I just game an chat

[winged birch]

You make a pretty strong point against Wooting’s boards for productivity as they don’t fit that category. My point is that besides layout (which I can understand) there aren’t any objective factors better in another board more aimed towards the category of productivity that I know of.

Hence my long questioning.

[obtuse wagon]

I just feel everything serve's a role, you have other keyboard companies focused an geared towards ergonomics or productivity

Why earlier I stated I like what Wooting does with the gaming focus, cause that's all I care about with my keyboards

Im sure my view would change tho if I didnt want to change out keyboards an actually worked on my computer

Then I would probably try the jack of all trades

[dense ridge]

@winged birch gonna order with plastic or methal case?

[obtuse wagon]

guessing the cheapest option will be the most sold, but still interested to see the two compared

[pseudo parrot]

which one are you considering mac?

[winged birch]

Ergonomics sure, but I believe you misunderstand that HE isn’t in itself for gaming. It’s just how the keyboard interacts with a switch, like mechanical or optical for example. HE can do everything the other two can and more, hence its benefits in gaming and productivity.

[obtuse wagon]

maybe the white zinc 🤷‍♂️ really wanna see the raw zinc

[pseudo parrot]

yeah i was leaning towards white zinc too, that or white plastic

[obtuse wagon]

black is still in play to, I do already have the Concrete Alumaze

[winged birch]

When more switches will be available it won’t be the jack of all trade as then it would be the master of none.

[winged birch]

Probably translucent white

[pseudo parrot]

nice, think i will go with white as ive never before had a keyboard in that color before

[winged birch]

Kinda worried about it yellowing though so make sure you don’t mind that.

[obtuse wagon]

I need pictures

[dense ridge]

@winged birchdo u know? will it be possible to buy and upgrade the case to methal one in the future?

[pseudo parrot]

aha fair point, i didnt think about the yellowing

[winged birch]

Mark said maybe

[dense ridge]

or its hard to change the case?

[obtuse wagon]

No idea, that mention in the live stream was very vague

[winged birch]

I think it’s 2, 3 or 4 screws then it pop open.

[obtuse wagon]

Is there even a 3rd party case that will fit the 80HE.. currently?

sure somebody will make 1, but as it stands dont think there is anything

[dense ridge]

it would be really nice to have a methal case but damn... 330 euro is kind of too expensive.. its like a last get CPU

[winged birch]

I meant when HE has the variety of switches that mechanical has, it won’t be the master of none, it’ll be the only one left.

[winged birch]

No

[lapis galleon]

its gasket mounted

[obtuse wagon]

Nah doubt HE will completely take over like

[winged birch]

It has 2, 3 or 4 screws in it’s forehead.

[winged birch]

Wait and see.

[winged birch]

The back of its forehead obviously.*

[pseudo parrot]

hall effect is very sensitive to emi though, just saying its not fit for all enviorments

[winged birch]

Sure, mechanical switches could have a purpose still.

[lapis galleon]

I say we keep HE switches to gaming boards exclusively

theres no point to put them in everything

it just jacks up prices

on top of that, HE boards also draw a lot more power

[winged birch]

HE is at around $100, that’s quite expensive for a keyboard now, yes but not for a quality keyboard.

[obtuse wagon]

Is anybody in the works for a Clicky HE?

[lapis galleon]

theres already a lekker mod

[obtuse wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-god-gif-5914845

[tight cypress]

I have clicky UwU

[winged birch]

That’s fair but I don’t think it’s as much as you think. Might be exclusive to Wooting ‘cause of those LEDs 😂

[winged birch]

There isn’t a slot for leafs in the Lekkers for nothing. Surely..

Outemu already makes clicky and tactile magnetic switches by the way. They’re just not compatible with Woot until Woot support reversed polarity switches.

[lapis galleon]

I just dont see the point of putting HE in everything tho, most of its features are entirely gaming focused.

[sage reef]

to not having to buy and then often swap 2 kbs for different use, big deal

[lapis galleon]

prob just left over from gateron molds

[sage reef]

having only 1 kb for everything pretty much

[pseudo parrot]

dks would be kinda nice for productivity but yeah i agree with luigi for now

[winged birch]

They’re in the Jades too and KS-20s didn’t reuse any mold afaik.

[buoyant cape]

Other topic
Idk how expensive and useful it would be but what about integrading magnets into the chasis(plastic)to give customer an easy option to customize their keyboard ?

Obv not taling about the bottom for handwrists

[winged birch]

Magnets close to HE sensors 😬

[lapis galleon]

not quite sure what you mean, but that sounds like a great way interfere with the HE sensors

[buoyant cape]

Yeah that was my worry how that would work with circuits

[winged birch]

Steelseries did it so Wooting can too.

[lapis galleon]

iirc you can just flip the magnet. its tedious but possible.

[winged birch]

Aint nobody doing that x61, I tried one idfk how the guy even got it out.

I am not a magnetician

[sage reef]

maybe use some really strong magnet to pull it out

[lapis galleon]

its friction fit to the stem, you'd probably just pull the entire stem

you may also be able to stem swap but im not sure

[winged birch]

That’d fuck the magnet up

[winged birch]

Sadly not, it’s an entirely different switch design.

[lapis galleon]

damn

[tiny tartan]

Gateron switches can be picked for free on the kit version? Or did I misunderstand

[vernal quest]

i thinks the last update gonna be the switches more stable no ?

[lapis galleon]

no