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Bugs and sentinels
Oh… lame lol
Oh boy here i go killing again

Occam's Razor is nice to employ.
The only thing that changes about the optional milestones is the minimum number of bugs/sentinels you have to kill to claim them. First 50, then 100, then I assume +50
5000
Wait, so if I don’t contribute anything I don’t get anything?
You will have to buy them from the QS vendor for QS. If you kill bugs you can claim them on the expedition for free
I mean makes sense lol
Technically killing the ones for the regular milestones counts towards it so you're fine regardless
Sick. So I’ll go in today and kill 100 bugs/sentinels?
(Is there a way I know if I’ve gotten 100
And, can we go and claim tier 1 & 2 rn?)
Yeah that'll clear you for t2, then when t3 is 100% you'd need to kill 50 more, etc.
As in 150, or just +50?
+50, 150 total
i found a pirate system and made my base "yo-ho-yo-ho a pirates life for me" and tried doing the song with bytebeat, i never messed with bytebeat before and its confusing af
Thank you!
i learned something on how to beat with sentinel walkers
It's like physically assembling your own sequencer out of blocks it's very odd
why did they add operators and numbers to music. who asked for that-
instead of same planet to beat up sentinels starting from one sentinel to trigger 1/5 up to 5/5 then disabled
it should be use ship to hop up to another planet with high sentinel warning or aggressive ones
I love it when i fight the green scorpion things and instead of taking damage on hit i just get launched 500u away🙏🙏 (not sarcasm btw its funny asf)
what i realized something is corrupted sentinels can reset from 5 star to 1 star, while normal ones aren't
i get that its super in depth and can be used with practice, but i just wanna make a pirate song lmao
also it's just normal sentinels do have walkers, not the other
if you go to a aggro sentinel world with some secure facility maps and spam them until one gives you 'operations centre detected', go there, there is a walker (not mech, actual walker) right there, no need for waves, just shoot it
oh... i already cleared via wave ones, which would took bits of time too, with upgraded multi tool weapons, most likely plasma launcher
what annoys me a lil bit is some small sentinel which would be a lil bit difficult to find
this thing
those can be found at sentinel depots/bases tho right?
those guys are the repairing guys right? they are so damn annoying lol
definitely, also sometimes it became a lil bit elusive
fast way to find the mini repair bots is damage a bigger one and wait for them to come to the rescue..then blast em
should be better if you have sharp eyes, or wear glasses. but yeah i'd appreciate that option too
the sentinels are pretty easily defeated with the exp multitool, its def more handy than the one in my main save lol
correct, yet i mostly use plasma launcher
Good to know. Ground sentinels it is then. Ty!
i used to be scared, but now i am part of the liquidator vanguard
being experienced with 9 expeditions (including current one), i guess it's part of my life
aslo my favorite weapon choice for these droids is first stunning them with the Paralisis Mortar then gunning them down with a Pulse Spitter.. its a lethal combo
id always go into the anomaly if im confronted with sentinels, i learned alot in this expedition lol
wait i forgot that it's pulse splitter, not plasma launcher lol
Thank you for your service, Liquidator. Together, we can indiscriminately murder native lifeforms without question!
it works well with the walker droids too.. because they cant fire back or launch motar volleys at you while stunned
BROTHER!
since worlds part 1 update, beating up walkers would be much easier compared with pre-worlds one
so i learned that focus on legs first then on chest and heart too
can i still kill big bug bosses in my primary save? i find it pretty fun lol
Yeah, and it can reward special helms (but only on primary saves, not expedition saves)
ive been using this weapon combo for several years now.. whatchu talkin bout willis?
hell ya lol
Just get a juiced neutron cannon and everything dies in a hit or two.
i would love to see a paralisis mortar on my star ship.. Pirates Beware..lol
tried that before, and yeah that'll be also useful too
well i guess i was only one explaining about my experience regarding to current expedition i completed
i just found out that only corrupted sentinels are distinct from normal ones
Great thing about the neutron cannon is you can just blast the bio horror spawns before they get a chance to move
yes, although when you kill corrupt sentinels (drones, large crawlers) they count for killing regular sentinels too, or at least they did
at first i use multi tool to beat up spawn brood mother, yet eventually i use minotaur exocraft to do the same thing too
i find it easier that i use minotaur to wipe off both horrors and broodlings too
and one thing that i never said is i also use minotaur to clear up sentinels too, both normal and corrupted
I need to see this
Shoot the ground, works better if you have a positron ejector/infra knife to delete any of the debris
@low viper
Quick question
just a question for my curious mind, do items from a expedition version of the main save if they're stored in a base storage get transferred over or do they vaporize into the ether and become credits?
Did the liquidation progress bar reset for anyone else? It's back to 0% for me.
If i contribute for the optional goals will i still have to pay the exorbitant price for the parts of the minitaur
try reloading the save? or rebooting the game?
Or because i did the expidition will i get them?
Ods problems probably
On my main save too?
If u claim them on expedition they will be for free in qs store on main save
#nms-expedition message
waits patiently for an answer 😅
items get sold into units and nanites, and those get added to your main save balance, So only things you want to bring back not in that form matter.
This expo was nice for all the nanites tbh that's one free freighter paint job
figured as much just thought I'd ask the question anyways, thanks for answering
How do I get advanced mining laser v2
is it possible to still join?
Yes, just go to the terminal in the anomaly
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@ashen shore
Nice
23% we doing good

I haven't been playing nms to help the community stuff lately because I'm to lazy and also not in the mood for nms and also there's a event going on rn in warface and I'm trying to get this full auto pistol from it before it ends
Question after my save turns back into normal (It's a fresh one). Will all my discoveries and such exist? Or will it treat it like a new galaxy.
That's a very good question for which idk you may need a answer from one of the mods here
oh.. i just abandoned it after that, and i'll use it as a my log where my hours were spent
starting from leviathan
but i noticed that there are some saves which did converted back to normal starting from voyagers
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It sounds like you are saying you started this save on the expedition. If that is the case, when your save transitions, you keep everything, including discoveries.
Sweet, thank you.
How do I complete the optional milestone purged by fire
It's community driven. So everyboy contributes to it via kills.
So how do u do ut
What's the question? Do you mean how do you contribute? You kill things like sentinels, horrors and bugs
Is that all I need to do to complete it
Just keep killing things and when us as a game community hits the milestone it unlocks
For expedition freighters, those just disappear after right?
Nah it's for flamethrower! Forget liberty!
So just kill stuff
Connect to ods first 2 phases already done
How do I do that and 2hat is ods
What is ods
Connect to online
how
Go to your discovery tab then click the button it says to at the bottom
Now thay yoyr connected exit the menu and wait for phase 1 or 2 rewards to pop up then go claim em
i was already connected
Oh weird uhh if it don't let you claim submit a bug report then
Hi, I just came back from 3 day off.
2 optional milestone completed but the other seem pretty low. What is required to make them progress?
Do we need to be in a specific area, does it worth spending more time doing them or it doesn't really make any difference as an indiviodual?
@ebon urchin
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- These optional milestones cannot be completed solo;
- A player can contribute 150 kills per day;
- Milestone hint won't display daily kill count, check Catalog&Guide/Milestones/Mercenary Guild;

it's a community progress thing yeah, per tiers and nr of biohorror/sentinel kills
where the heck are the allurring specimens?
I literally can't find anything anywhere under the water
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@burnt flume
Will take a while to complete
use the scanner to find them, they look like regular rock or plant but convert into monster when close by
they will be highlited in red
the mode 3, not 1
they are found in any aquatic biome right?
I beleive soo, found them ion first try
one was a small rock with an eye you need to press E to get out, the second was a swarm of jelly fish, wich count fore more than 1 so it completed the quest
crap i need to get a advanced mining beam
spawn the nexus and spend some nanite
does my expedition save merge with my main save after it ends
you can bring 1 multitool and 1 ship for what I undersoot, not sure if we can bring back stuff from inventory via the same system we can use when starting it
You can
But items can only go back with you after the expedition is finished
However ships and multitiols can go back whenever as long as it's a different multi tool or ship every time or you scrap it on main save then go back and you can transfer it again
just got this during expidition, does this carry to my man save as well????
You can use this to duplicate tech
You can get that no matter what
It's not a expedition thing
true but since i started expidtion on my main save do i still get this technology blueprint?
Did you start the expedition through the anomaly
Or did you create the expedition as a new save
?
started it through the anomaly
Ok so you will need to reclaim it at a disonent camp again
Blueprints and such don't transfer
But that jetpack can be found at any disonent camp regardless of expedition
It's part of main game

And also it's not a blueprint
It's a customisation module for your exosuit
ok so i just finished the expedition but didnt claim all the rewards. what sort of stuff do i keep what do i throw? and should i just return to my main save until all the secondary milestones get completed?
I would stay on expedition save until all community stuff is finished and pitch in a bit by fighting brood queens and stuff
Check in sometimes on nms
and what about the rewards and what i keep in the inventory to transfer over?
Anything you want to transfer back tech and items
Paradise planet my butt… not if this exists here..
thing is ive basically been playing for 20 something hours on my main and i just did the expedition today in about 4-6 sooo i dont rly know the value of things long term to actually keep
This expedition doesn't have any special exclusive items to give apart from the exo mech stuff and the egg and expedition rewards all can be claimed account wide
Would fighting with a pet and a minotaur increase the kill count towards the community goal?
So just transfer whatever is valuable
stuff like hypnotic eye, repair kit etc but i assume those i can just throw cuz its one of each taking two slots
No clue
coolio noted
can i do anything with rancid flesh?
It sells high and I thinks its a goal in phase 5
Besides cooking no
kk thanks guys
Before going back to main save though if you have any ship or multitool tech or exclusive expedition ship parts you want to scrap to make a custom one you should consider doing something I'll explain it to you
You know how you can transfer ship and multitools from save to expedition well the tech stays on it so if you transfer a ship or multitool from expedition to main save and take it's tech off then go back to expedition after scraping your ship for it's parts or scrapping your multitool you can go back to the anomaly and copy it again keep repeating this all you want effectively duplicating ship parts and ship and multitool tech
You can do this regardless if the expedition is finished or not
As long as the anomaly is unlocked on expedition

Hope that wasn't to confusing
I though u couldn’t transfer stuff back to main save until ending the expedition
looks like its just the tech/storage you cant until the end?
want help? i can mine and give you the suffs
or help you get nanties / salvaged data to buy your own form the nexus
Ships and multitools can be transferred back regardless
Items and stuff can't
Yea my b
I got it no worries
currently on phase 5 now
is there a way to change your perspective in a minotaur suit?
I want to be in third person
does the bug you get from the expo grow from just time?
anyone remember the starting system? i want to hand out chromatic metal to help people out lol
awesome thank you!
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@flint totem
Is it better to scrap everything yourself after you are done with the expedition (and transferred the few items you can), or just let the game convert it to units/nanites after finalising the expedition?
Dilema... which look to bring back:
The alien one is an A class, the other one is the one boosted with the expedition stuff. I don't have a good multitool yet in my main save...
Bring both back, just equip whichever to your expedition save, and duplicate on your main save through the terminal. Rinse/repeat. I've done this for multiple multis and ships I wanna keep
You need around 1000-2000 nanites per transfer, but you can easily get that by killing sentinels on your normal save
Progress has slowed again huh a full day less than 30%
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@balmy aspen
We should get the flamethrower by Wednesday with the amount of time people will have
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When starting an expedition, is it best to start from a new save?
And how do I do that
Which system is the Helldivers planet in.
There's a helldivers planet ?
Yup, player named.
can the bonus objective be completed from any zone or only from the dropzone of each phase?
How long do expeditions take
Took me around 6 hours
I'm thinking next week Wednesday
Can I post party invites (for the expedition) here?
does it sound legit to farm these everytime they spawn on space station with the reputation vendor?
Was thinking of brining back some upgrade
#nms-questions message from 
Whether it's best to start from a new save is debatable. If you do then any problems with the expedition can't transfer to your main save at least
Sounds reasonable enough.
Dont you get to keep the multitool though?
regarding saving up multitool expansions
If you've already got the max slots on the multitool you want to copy it's useful to have more expansion slots.
You also don't automatically keep the multitool used on the expedition if you did it through the anomaly, see #nms-questions message from 
IIRC 2800 for the ship, don't know the MT
It may have been 1800 for the ship, I don't quite remember the actual first number. But x800, where x is 1 or 2
Are you playing on the Switch? I have encountered this too on the Switch. I am not on the expedition, I'm on normal playthrough.
Nvm. I just noticed you are on the Switch. Didn't see your tags.
I see, i should be fine with 13000 then
I guess you could say their looking right at you
So I wont get the inventory slots and hazard protection upgrades from Purged by Fire Optional Milestone until the Community thing is completed?
That's the first one, innit? Then you just need to kill 50 creatures on the expedition save to get that reward there. I do not believe you can claim that outside the expedition
We did the first 2 so far
ok I think I understand it. Thank you.
It doesn't matter where you stand. You can be behind them. On the left side, right side or riding them. Their heads remain on the right side. See here in my screenshots.
So they are always looking right at you
Apologies. I misunderstood, didn't notice it was a joke. My bad. It's been a long day. 😆
Lol np
Strange how humor is hard to detect through text...
Especially when you are tired and exhausted. 😂
I would like to ask, can I got those community milestones' rewards even if I choose to finish my expedition and return to my main save?

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is anybody in the starting system im trying to find my way there on my main save but am failing
You can use the glyphs from the pins
i just thought of that and am looking for them now
just need these here for a minute
I still don't understand whether I could got these (no matter it is free or not) after I switch right now.
What time before kills count towards the community goal again?
From how I understand it, those that are unlocked right now will be free for you, but if you end the expedition now, the rest of them will be available to purchase with quicksilver
I may be wrong
You'll need to kill 100 things before you can claim in a fresh expedition save
it seems like you cant build any of the minotaur upgrades outside of the expo right now
How to best contribute to purged by fire?
kill horrors
Ok...
I just went to a small building and they kept spawning when I stole eggs, minotaur kaboom directly on their spawn gets it done in no time
Ty guys
can anyone help me pls
expedition 14
Remember that there's a 150 daily kill limit, so don't burn yourself out!
Past 150 kills your kills (probably) don't count
Should I hatch the grub cocoon or does it not matter since it wont transfer anyway?
pls
What time is the rollover to when they count again?
Midnight at whatever Time zone HG's headquarters is in I'd assume
For me it was on a planet in the system with dropzone 3, there's also some info about it in the pinned messages
i just finished dropzone 3 and im on a planet called "HAS A 12.0 APEX PREDATOR-MANTIS LOOKIN"
i cant find it
That's where I found it, it was in cave, pretty hard to spot, try looking for communication beacons on the planet from space
what did the beacon say
"Apex 12 in cave"
can i read the communication statiopns from space?
it just says communication station
No you gotta land
Hopefully my question isn't silly:
I completed all the main Liquidator quests but I don't want to transfer to my primary save if I cant continue the Purge By Fire milestones (I want to help progress it). Can I still do the optional milestone if I complete my expedition save and move to my primary?
Not if you end the expedition
Ah shame, but good to know
I'd prefer to get the liquidator parts by progressing it, so I guess Im keeping with the expedition save. Thanks for helping!
No problem
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can you look at my stream real quick im in the cave and found a marker but maybe you know
im in NMS LFG 1
Just go in and out of the cave a couple times, it takes a minute to spawn
i entered the cave by terrain manipulator
nevermind ima just try this another day when someone can join and help me this game still confuses me even after a month
There's also more info for Apex Predator in the pins
I'm finding a lot of bases people have put effort into, without power and all the refiners blocked 'already open' or some such
the refiner issue is a known bug, and there's nothing a base builder can do about it
no power is an odd thing though. do they just not put down solar panels and batteries, or what's up? if you save-reload at the base, does it work then?
One earlier worked with save/reload. It was powered by a hotspot.
huh. how about others without power, what were they using? had they built any power pieces?
Save reload worked on this one too. Not sure what it is powered by, but I saw some batteries I think.
And the supply depots magically full too.
ok. I'm asking because I have a couple uploaded bases I want people to be able to use, and I've put well more than enough solar/batteries, so if they aren't loading, it's a problem.
but I do not have any extractors down, so maybe it won't be an issue
If I'm taking a multitool using the Expedition terminal in the Anomaly, do I remove any tech from it first before taking it in even if I dont want to take any tech with me?
Its 'cause Abyssal horrors dont work anymore
I mean, I would like to copy all the tech over, I don't think it costs any more nanites with full tech vs no tech. If you don't want the tech later you can sell them for nanites to help cover the copy cost.
Though this expedition ends up with a strong MT just by doing the expedition
Yeah, I was debating even taking one.
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@flint saddle
I only copied my ship over. With all tech
Good to know
150 still.
I did not take one in; the sentinel mt you get has scatter blaster on it right away and I think an upgrade or two? anyways you start out very strong. and you'll get class upgrades for it too as you go
if you're worried about nanite costs just go to dissonant planets and farm radiant shards or whatever they're called and refine them, a full stack is 500 nanites and they are abundant
Copying over the MT can be beneficial if you have a cool but low-class MT on your main save
can copy it, upgrade to S with expedition rewards, then copy back
still much cheaper in nanites than direct upgrade
LOL, I'm still debating what to do. Good info everyone!! Thanks.
I started the exp from my main save and another time a fresh one starting with the expedition.
The start was a bit slower (shorter scan range, less units reward from scanning) but overall it was just fine for me.
Damage is great.
did everybody else get the +7,000% scan reward mods?
I got whatever the scanner modules gave me, the S class ones are always nice
hey we just got 30% of tier 3, everybody must be doing their part!
I noticed I can redeem expedition rewards on expedition mode even if I have redeemed them already in normal mode (same save). Does that mean I can always grab a S class tool and ship (Atlas staff, Iron Vulture etc.) whenever I reach the anomaly for all future expeditions with no strings attached?
What can I refine to make crystal sulphide?
I believe so, yes
nothing, you need to get it from underwater 'hot air vents', scan in the hud for it
I don't think anything refines to crystal sulphide
The technical reason for that is probably that even if it's "the same save" the game basically makes a new save for the expedition and just "hides" your "main" save while you're in that expedition. When you switch back (without ending that expedition) it just changes which save it hides so your main save is now visible and the expedition save for the main save is hidden.
Nice, this makes it easy to dupe iron vulture parts for salvage
I quite wonder how many people have been helped by the pinned messages and just never say anything. It's really hard to know whether what people have made available have really helped people since it's mostly people that have trouble we get to hear from.
Though from the people that don't ask more questions after being told to check the pins I guess they do help quite a lot.
it's worth having them, people that know this discord know to look there and won't even bother to mention it, and that's already a big win
Yeah, I wasn't saying it's not worth having them, mostly just a philosophical question about how many have been helped by them and never say anything XD
yeah no way to know. it's like, well, being an instructor, you never know whether you've made a long term impact on someone until they drop you a line and say thanks some period of time later
in the meantime you toss your pebble out into the void and hope the ripples have meaning
You can help me by doing your part on the expiditon
I have been 😄

Someone during my first expedition told me about the pinned messages and if I have time I look for answers there. I don't think the search function pulls up what's in there though.
it will pull from all messages, and the pinned ones are just messages.
Oh ok!! I didn't notice it was doing that. The pinned messages is a great addition to the discord, especially nms expeditions!!
I try to remember to look at pinned messages when I get to a new channel, very helpful (well most of the time 😉 )
Expeditions is really good with the pinned messages
But the other channels in this discord also has mostly great pinned messages
Better than a lot of others I've seen
I'm in groups on FB and some groups have a place where they add files. Is there a section like that here? Would be great for doc's like the one you post the other day (Liquidators System Summary) @indigo falcon
Im hunting glyphs in expedition will it be carried to my main save?
I don't know, that's not a file so much as a link, and that's only good for this expedition. But for files in general I don't know, we trend to separate out things by subject matter
I don't believe so
Is there a way to end my expedition and turn my save into a normal save?
My quest log says that i can do it
you started a new save for the expedition I take it?
So my glyphs will be gone once expedition is over?
the main save will have whatever it had. you did start from an existing save, right?
so it's just like learning words of the npc languages, those don't carry over either
Yes. Honestly thats my only save, I’ve lost my previous ones
oh my
So ill have to wait until expedition end to get my save converted?
well or wait for the optional milestones to be completed and you claim them, which should happen first
I just feel that the extra inv slots and tech from expedition are useful for a new start, since my old files were lost
I don't know of a way to force end the expedition for a new save, with those optional milestones still open. maybe someone else does
oh sure and it's a great multitool you get too
I think i can do that with a save editor, but i dont like the idea of cheating
I guess ill have to start from 0 again :/
Yes from existing save so I think I will stop hunting glyphs in expedition
You can end the expedition before the optional milestones, but that would mean you would have to buy the mech part plans instead of getting them from the optional milestone rewards.
Not like you can't do quite a lot to pave the way for your story playthrough once the expedition ends while being in the expedition to the end.
unless you want to go somewhere specific, it's not worth it
But I obtained one, will I lost that one?
I see
the glyphs you have will not carry over
Okay but when Im back at main save, will I able to get all glyphs again or I will lose one that I already obtained?
you can get them all
Sorry, but what exactly are those milestones ? Thats my first time doing an expedition
Gotcha thanks
Purged by Fire
The only optionals this time, I think
Oh, thats like a community progress instead of a individual progress?
if you look at phase 1,2,3,4,5 you see the last milestone has brackets around it, and it's called "purged by fire" or something, those are community milestones, you don't have to participate if you don't want to
(but you might as well, and get the items for free instead of paying quicksilver)
That explains why i was killing thousands of monsters and couldn’t get any progress in those archievments
well you Did Your Part (for the day, now do it some other days :-P)
what is lure 3 deep sea monstrosities
Look at the description of it. click on it again
I cant stand monsters spawning from the ground every time i perform an action
go to deep water (ocean), scan for "alluring specimens" (red icon with white orb), swim out to it, harvest the glowing orbs, then shoot what emerges
ok ty
Im not sure about old expeditions but this one its very tiresome
uh huh, I did the weekend mission in the expedition save and it was a bit tedious to have the greenies around the grave
The problem is that they aren’t even challenging, just annoying
this one is a lot less grindy than some, tbh. even the 4 walkers milestone can be made a lot quicker if you know the trick
there are a bunch of older players around that if I say "herox" at them, they would run screaming (previous expedition milestone)
How are the other expeditions from this year in that regard? Ill have to do them when they become available again
best to look at previous "milestone/reward" posts for them. what was the immediately previous one, oh yeah Adrift, I thought that was ok
I guess the main milestone people found slow was scanning three robofauna
anyone know wgere a ocean planet is at
starter planet is one
bet ty
Now battles in this game are kinda frustrating. FPS drops very quickly, and i'm sick of repairing my minotaur every time cause its too expensive 😔
gah. whatever optimisations they did they didn't do enough of them :(
the FPS do, indeed, suck :(
Hope they will do something
same. it hurts the eyeballs :(
omg. they reduced the ROE of venus flytraps from infinite!
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@crimson copper
anyone know how to finish the settlers quest? I have no idea what to do now :(
it never finishes
and ever and ever and ever
probably never ending cause people/settlers always want something
oh true, that makes sense
Also sounds like not part of expedition ;P
I'm missing the part for the base building, i.e. the PC that you normally set up to research it, the whole quest series with the NPCs is missing. Is that the same for you?
Basecomputer is not buildable
what system has a dissonat planet?
You get the base computer from one of the milestones. A lot of other quests don't exist in expedition saves
All galaxies have dissonant planets
but i dont have it and cant build it
No, not each system. Every galaxy.
oh wait mb
Do the milestones
i have the milestone
Then click on it to claim it
cant
It should show "dissonance detected" on the galaxy map, I think
I spot a base computer in your first screenshot
ty
For research just go to the anomaly.
found one : )
Not in expedition
also you cant build the npc in base
Expedition
From what I understand at least
Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Unfortunately, mobile browser Discord is VERY limited. So the mobile instructions are only reliable in respects to the mobile app. Hopefully Discord Devs will eventually implement an easier link we can make accessible to toggle the Pins popout easily on any platform. 
We can only do the best we can with the tools we have
Whats the new update about 4.76 gb??
No NPCs in Bases for expedition ok
2600 nanites already. yaay
and if you bother finding the rare underwater critter, that's a quest :)
Yeah just saw it now thanks!
wow. got a decent scanner upgrade. money and nanites will cease to be an issue
Well now i have 50 storm crystals and i hope thats enough for repairing my buddy minotaur

that bad is it?
Just freaked out 😄
happens :)
Actually you need just one crystal for repair, but its always being destroyed almost in every battle
stocking up when it's easy is a sensible move
It's a lesson learned in previous expeditions 🙂
this is how I have 2600 nanites and I only just left the starting planet :)
:)
do you need rancid flesh for anything as part of the expedition?
the worst stew?
yes if that is what its called
damn :) need inv space :)
true. just gotta find em
3 walkers and im done w
I still cant find the larval core egg things near abandoned buildings
Pretty sure a minotaur scanner can locate abandoned buildings?
Buy it from a cartographer for 3 nav data
Just did thanks
whee. 26 larval eggs. good haul imo.
so what do I need for that stew?
oh duh. misread.
!tier
@bold atlas
oh my. i must write HG, they need to make 2 updates or expeditions per year MAXIMUM 
~~in a difficult stressful situation rn 😦 thought i might hang out in NMS a bit to calm me down, and there is another update.. ~~
last expedition i wanted to do 2 runs, one new save and one from main. had only time for the new save.
yesterday on steam i found a thread talking about invisible ships and quite some other bugs..
tl dr: question: would you advise against doing the expedition, starting from main save?
Ughhhh cant find larval eggs anywhere
Thats the problem, cant find any
No abandoned buildings anywhere
2 or 3 of dropzones have them around them
i hate using the scatter blaster :/
why not?
just not my type of weapon
Neutron cannon betta
also which expedition was rerun last year?
nah.
!tier
@manic path
Sick
ok. eyeballs can't take more of this. meh.
So after I installed the Minotaur left arm, game crashes every time I try to get out of the Minotaur.
Is this a "Doctor, Doctor" joke? :)
:)
wait a minute the multitool in the interceptor trailer looks exactly like my expedition multi tool
it is purhdy
Yeah it is exactly the same
!tier
@flint totem
which planet is it on?
for people looking for abandoned buildings, you can trade nav dta for distress signal maps and spam those until you get the abandoned building.
if it's just about eggs, airless worlds have eggs around on the surface
Or just ya know use infestation sites
a rendezvous system?
Not yet
Valde20 was looking for them, even after being referred to specific drop zone sites
wdym?
I don’t know what that means
what do you mean?
Rendezvous system
if the player had already been and cleared those milestones, then it would be hard to get back to them again
number?
How do I find that?
yeah well if you are un the system due to an rendezvous or infestation there will of course be the number and also the teleporter in the space anomaly will list all the rendezvous systems
Soooo basically, if i got it right, i basically want to get the best multitool and best ship on expedition, go back to main save and just copy them on repeat and scrap them? Or did i miss something?
For example i have and s class exotic on main. I can copy that on expedition. Then go back to main and now i can copy it on main as many times as i want?
Like the thing is dont get is where do i keep doing the copy and scrap. On main or on expo
@full pewter
Should I end expedition or wait for optional milestones
if you want the reward for the optional ones, you should wait.
Okay
Claiming the optional milestones will save you 7300qs (6300,as tier 1 got unlocked already)
Anyone down to do the weekend challenges? Im sick of killing bio horrors for the optional already
Does the expedition end at the terminal or when we complete the final phases quest?
Question does the optional milestone speed up on weekends
Yes but you would have to scrap that ship every time so you could copy it again meaning any ship that can be built for instance the exclusive expedition ship iron valture you can get it's parts all of them and build it as a new in your own colors
I would honestly wait
!tier
@ashen shore
I would assume it'll go a bit faster
Weekend-> more people playing-> more people doing their part
But It doesn't speed up by itself or by any in game mechanic afaik
Remember that anything more that 150 per day is probably wasted effor, as per the datamining there is a link to in the pins
Oh.... oops lol. Its been over a year since i last got on. Deleted everything and started the expedition two days ago
Good to hear you're back, though
Has there been any cool ships spotted in the expeditions systems
alrighty
I started expedition from a save will I keep my expedition freighter and ship etc?
read again
I'm assuming you started it from an existing save through the anomaly. In which case no; #nms-questions message
If I end the expedition early, what happens exactly? I just can't the progress anymore? The atlas quest starts up? I'm transported somewhere?
sorry for the long delay in replying. my find in the drop zone 4 system on the dissonant planet there (Kijavida Prime) looks like this, I thought the model was supposed to be the same per planet, strange...
why in the name of snot did I think that there was a base building component to this expedition?
no idea. but building a base to help other players is always cool
one of my bases got a bunch of litter at it, not uploading 😛 maybe you have better luck...
Can you not lose sentinels by going inside buildings anymore?
I do all the time. what happened when you tried it?
I'm standing inside a building and they are still swarming around
ok, but do you have a bunch of stars up in the upper right or not?
see, the sentinels remain after they stop hunting you.
Truth. :)
I don't know what the deal was but there was a dog-like sentinel stuck under the building I was in so I think he had detected me so once I got rid of him, I was able to lose their focus again.
ok yeah the quads can get stuck under the floor of buildings and it's a right pain in the behind to get rid of them
oh nice. you can do the jetpack quest in the safety of the anomaly.
also don't forget to pick up nanites for milestones and life scans.
they can get stuck underground too, if you dig tunnels while fighting
I had to dig up a dog to kill it a couple times
That's a beautiful line when out of context. :)
please don't screenshot me
lol
MUAHAHAHAHAHA! :)
Do the quest progress made while in a expedition transfer over to the main save? I just finished the deep sea one and I was wondering will it carry over ?
no, you'll need to do it again on the main save
Shit
I'm stuck now, can't play till the optional milestones are done. Don't have enough quicksilver to buy the rewards later. This sucks
units and nanites you generate on that save carry over, so do discoveries and bases
maybe explore some
Maybe I don't understand but how are you stuck?
I'm gonna end it early. The rewards of the optional milestones don't seem that worth it rn. Maybe I'll grind qs and buy it down the line
I unlocked a couple of quests and did it thinking that the progress would transfer over. Been finding cool freighters and ships I'd like to own but cant transfer freighters or frigates and can carry over only one ship from expedition. Been exploring for quite some time and discovered cool planets where I'd like to make my base and all that combined is discouraging me from continuing to play while in expedition mode.
Oh got it! I was just confused but that makes sense
It's the "do I play on the main save or the other save question right?"
Yeah that
bases created on an expedition character started from an existing save carry over once finished.
Holy shit I've never gotten that much nanites
That is a ton of nanites
and you might be able to copy any active ship/multitool (for nanites) one after another from exp char to main
copy active on primary, switch to exp character, switch active ship/mt, back to primary, copy once again
Is there anything I really would regret not bringing to start this expedition? I don’t mind winging it but don’t want to kick myself over a couple particular things
I did that. Got everything I wanted. Most of it anyway
Time to explore againn
Not really. If you start from anomaly it can be nice to bring something to refine to nanites to copy your ship over, but you'll mostly get everything you need
Is it possible to end the expedition and then start another one linked to main save? Or only once per save
My nexus is so empty...
If you started this one from the main save then that's the only one you'll be able to do from the main save, yes
Thanks
If you started a new expedition save you can start one from a main save too
Cool thanks, last time I brought a ton of stuff and didn’t really need it, this time ima just bring some oxygen and carbon and yolo
Expeditions are meant to be possible without bringing anything, since that's how they were always played until just a little while ago. And I'm guessing they will keep that possibility since a lot of people still start a new save for the expedition
I brought nothing at all and it was fine
a packaged personal refiner is a convenience in the early minutes of the expedition
now that I've completed everything, I finally went and got a sentinel interceptor which I'll likely bring back, because I like the model a lot. of course I'll take the multitool, on this save the best I have is an S rifle ( 🙄 )
but they can't get it until after first warp is the thing
Gotta get to space and warp first
whick is pretty easily done this time
I'm gonna copy the expedition MT to my main save. I need one of these there
one of the sentinel towers in the expedition has a red/gold royal mt
if you like those and have Mt upgrade rewards unclaimed
!tier
@elder berry
I've got an A class royal from one of the pillars, lemme check the color
likely that one
yeah must be that one. I put a base down and uploaded it so others could find it. it's got some mould nearby so I corralled that up too
I found that and a red/gold exotic ship on expedition, so now I changed my whole theme lol
I am happy with the interceptor, I have a nice exotic on the regular version of this save
But dont i need to have an iron vulture in the first place?
Hooly howd you get so many nanites
probably sentinel loot?
Should’ve taken the refiner advice lol
How do you get pure ferrite to fix the ship without it?
You can build a small refiner
Oh yeah lol, I totally forgot about those
You couldn't claim the personal refiner before going to the anomaly anyway
huh, finally bothered to get a freighter and it has a planetary scanner on it already, that's going to make things nicer
The teleport inventory on a freighter is beautiful
Too bad it takes so many salvage freighter items 😭
What do you mean waste time
I've had the expedition done this entire time and I'm just doing things
how do you summon the monstrocity from an alluring specimen?
Try and grab it.
I'd rather explore than grind fro salvaged frigate modules for a freighter that doesn't carry over to the main save (where I already have one anyways)
harvest the glowing orbs
Hi. Does the ingame chat not working on the expedition?
Does the Dead planet -> Killing eggs -> Killing biohorrors work as kill count for the optional parts of the expedition?
I'm on the side challenge Forged by Fire: 3?
biohorrors, sentinels and bugs count, no matter where they are. but not sentinels killed by disabling a pillar
we're all on the 3rd one, these are community goals
I'm just want to walk slowly with my Goliat on a dead moon while killing biohorrors like a badass mech pilot. 😄
And I guess all the other Liquidator goliat parts are coming from the side challenges, right?
yup
Btw, what is main prizd
Proszę*
Prize
Damn auto correct
Coz I can't figure that out
Cosmetics
And how do you get Liquidaitors rank here?
Although it's kinda shitty compared to 12th expedition
Btw Goliat's AI still not possible to turn on/off, right?
Sorry if this has been asked, but has anyone else experienced pilots in space stations despawning immediately when you go to talk to them? MP is enabled, but not in a group. Wondering if I stumbled into something new or if it's already known
this is a multiplayer artifact, go to single player and reload, you'll be ok
Thanks, I figured as much
I have discovered, if you have a ship equipped with the aquatic landing gear, and claim a 'drowned starship', the new ship will have aquatic gear active when you claim it, even tho it's not installed
[Switch edition]
Interesting. Probably not intended, I'd wager
I'd guess not, also
I also discovered [yesterday] frigate missions can bring back the 'dream aerial' recipe, even during expedition - probably not a big deal, but cool anyway
YES!!!
how far along is the expedition, cuz for me it still says 50% of stage 1
Are you talking about the community goals?
That questions seems weird
yh
#bot-spam message
I'm reading 37% of phase 3
yep
you didn't consider "50% of stage 1" from "50 and counting" while you have tier 1 tracked?
Starting planet is really pretty
it's pretty nice. too bad it has cold nights and those pesky sentinels (which you will see if you return to the planet later)
I had no reason to return to a planet or even go to a space station during the expiditon
It was a very quick one boom boom bam done
I'm still playing that save, (long since completed the milestones), so I bounce around in different systems all the time
Do you get to keep the rifle from this expedition?
U can copy last active mt to your main save
I am assuming you started the expedition from an existing save?
Any1 down to play the expedition?
Does the Individual kills: 150 and counting means that I can only add 150 kills to the counter?
no, that's the minimum total kills you need to have done to get credit so you can get the item for free
now as is happens we think the total per day that "counts" is 150. but that's independent of what the ui says
e.g. for tier 1 it said 50, limit was still we think 150 a day
!tier
@elder berry
And is there any way to look how much did I killed already?
Idk why but the tier in no man’s sky keeps increasing
in a day? not really. you can co to the catalogue tab, click milestones, look at the mercenary category, and it will show total for horrors and sentinels, and you can check at the start of the day and then again later on, but that's the best I can say.
Reminder that u can spam tier command to your heart content in #bot-spam so mods will not get angry for using it to often instead of scrolling a up a bit
!tier
@fervent nexus
I’m not gonna spam
wrong channel 😛
😆
😠
I see two of those on my screen right now, so that's a bit much, cough
1187 kills on biohorrors. 🙂
No
Rookie numbers you need to pump them numbers up
North, going alphabetically 😛
One step closer to the flamethrower arm for every bug we kill
It's hard honest work
oh PSA if you started the expd from an existing save, this is a fine time to collect juicy grubs to take back to the main save later and crush thm all, to get the helmet drops from the brood mother if you have not gotten them already, also the title. because very world has them in the expd you run across them all over
2610 sentinel kills
That's what I'm talking bout
My helmet rng was so weird had to kill over a hundred queens
on the main save? oof
I’m pretty much sticking to the quicksilver one I have enough quicksilver to unlock the liquidator body but I need to get the leg and the flamethrower and I have to wait till we get to tier 5
I was just doing ship hunting ( and I did that a lot ) and scanning everything I found. So a lot of fauna and yeah a shit tonne of sentinel hunting. I was just doing normal stuff don't remember doing anything special
No I did it 8n expi save
oh, and you got helmets? it must be a very low drop rate,I would wait for the main save, where the drop rate is something like 20%
Btw if I get the Liquidator parts for the Goliath on the expedition, and start a new game, then I can take them out from the quicksilver vendor, right?
Yeah rng was not on my side
so you can make copies of the active ship and multitool back on the main save
it costs some nanites for each.
How
Anomoly?
it will be via that terminal, yeah
I think you switch back to the main save via the options menu and then check the anomaly terminal, but I've not tried it myself (for if you want to keep playing the expedition, which I do)
Gotcha
Thanks
yeah, I would check guides and such on that one, be sure before you try it
Regarding the community goals for the expedition, what completion % of what goal are we up to by now?
39%, you can run in the #bot-spam channel the command !tier (or just scroll up a little to see if anyone ran it in the last few minutes)
Thank you!
How do you transfer rewards to main save?
Just buy em and they’ll pop up in the market
rewards automatically become available, via the quicksilver vendor.
now for transfering tech/resources back there, you need to use the anomaly terminal
Do you gotta go to the space terminal to get the ship? Or does it automatically pop up in your freighter?
What do you mean? Like use the anomoly terminal to revert to primary save?
if you want to copy the ship, you will get the option to do that at the anomaly terminal also, it needs to be the active one
Or to go to your base
the anomaly terminal has a little stash where you can put up to 8 tech and 24 of other items in it
Ohhhh got it
Makes sense now
I would check a guide on this if you're not sure, there are plenty available.
anyone that knows where to find some deep sea montrosities?
starter planet, scan for "alluring specimens" in the hud, red icon with white orb
thanks : )
Any planet rlly as long as it has a large body of water
Your best options will be boggy planets, paradise planets or any other planet of that category (eg marsh, or humid)
How far is the shared objective now ?
Go to any deep waer body and look for strange specimen (appear red while scanning)
Currently says 39 for me
Do we have to finish the expedition first to be able to transfer expedition items to main save?
I checked just now I can’t transfer yet I have not finished my expedition
Gotcha
Remember to use “return to main save” from the options menu if you have more items to move than will fit so that you can go back and do the next batch.
Timberwolf phase is a tough one, especially when you play first person
But i did it 
Can we do the multiple transfer to main save? I thought we can’t
You can (or should still be able to!) so long as you don't trigger the final scores.
Hmm how? I open the termnal but I can’t put items there or maybe I haven’t try yet
Oh so we have to finish the expedition first but we still can access expedition area and do multiple transfers? Sorry too much asking lol
Scrapped the sentinel ship that was handed to us and got 42m ezpz
does the expedition end with the terminal, or when we hit the complete button of the last phase?
the optional milestone is community goal?
The only thing keeping me from finishing the expedition, is the purged by fire stuff. I am on level 3, now 40% and the thing keep surging me to end the expedition lol
yup
I have killed hundreds of horrors and only moved it a few points lol
My game crashed and when I relaunched all the optional objectives were marked incomplete and they are stuck that way. I’m assuming that it’s not possible anymore for me to get those rewards when the community reaches those objectives?
so if i end early i dont get the exocraft stuff?
I don't think so....
I beleive you would have to pay for them at the vendor but I'm not sure
not sure what it would cost tho, but there is about 1 week required to get the last tier for sure
I am not chancing it lol It's not like a need the armor for my exocraft but it is something new yaknow.... I got 9k hrs in game lol
I could end it now but I am too greedy lol I want that armor
it's a community goal
everyone progresses it
(probably) 150 kills per day, likley resetting at midnight at the HG HQ's time zone
how many slot can we get in a multi-tool? I'm farming the expansion module item with the rep vendor for free 🙂
depends what class it is
a staff is 60
Isn't that 
There is an explantion of most of this in the 📌
or does
have more than 60 and it's
with 60
yes
do they both have 60 slot?
I just counted them
It is s class only
Ah. Not sure what my multitool's max is since I've only got 27 rn and I haven't added any
A class has 10 less.
I have 2 expansion slots rn so
wait, we get the exocraft armor from the vendor?
I will buy it lol
some people tell it can come from the quicksilver vendor for nanite but I really don't know and will wait
Where do you find the apex predator
first make sure yoru settigns are set that wildlife may attack you. otherwise you cant find them anyway. then go aroudn on planets. you may find them then when there are animals
what are those liquidators left arm, leg etc prints in the optional missions in the expedition
does anyone know by chance on whether its more effective to farm the small swarms or better to kill the big broodmothers for % in the optional milestones?
a new set of mech modifications, more armor, and cosmetic. and an option to make it more meelee-ish
Yah I was wondering if brood mothers just count as 1 bug ? 
True
Killing sentenials now give nanites. But at the end of the expedition bugs will give the nanites right ? So what's better I wonder
killing sentinels give salvaged glass, which when opened gives modules that then can be sold for nanites at station
👍
Do you find that's the best way to farm your nanites ?
thats the way I do it, its very slightly less boring than being stood at refiners whilst refining mould, instead im stood there shooting stuff
How to progress liquidation?
Hmmmmmmmmmm... Where can I find vile brood after clearing all expedition milestone?
everywhere
Squish those grubs
Ohhh
Planets that have them say so when scanned in space
Also some info in 
I have collected sentinel ships that randomly have aqua jets installed.
I believe it; I have seen them equipped with other stuff too, like a cargo scan deflector, etc
I’ve also had luck with S class finds in pirate systems, although my sample size is small…. 2 out of 3
Let’s say I return from expedition without doing the optional community challenges can I later do an expedition and get them that way?
Probably, but you'd have to squish a minimum number of bugs to get them -- I think
Might be better to just let it finish as is
Ok how long does it usually take to finish it
I’ve moved a couple of MTs and ships already.
Cause I am running around killing bugs and robots
Keep up the good work, it will help everyone
Ok
👍
AFAWK it's 150 kills per day each person can contribute to the community goals
The "150 kills and counting" is not talking about that
I think I saw [in the Switch version] phase 1 was 50, phase 2 was 100, phase 3 is 150 - might be increasing the daily count as we progress?
I just kinda murder for an hour.
And call it good.
I know anything extra doesn't count, but it gives me the warm and fuzzies.
So I count it, in my heart.
Check the links to the datamined material. The 50 - 100- 150 is just what's needed for you to get the reward for that milestone, not contributions counted, AFAWK
The rib meat can sell for a decent price, so -- there's that
I'll sell your rib meat. 😠
Welp, we'll get it done soon enough, either way
I'm gonna hoard all of their meats.
I'm a grandpa, my meat's no good
Well seasoned
Yup
I don't know why I picked up extra MTs knowing I can't break it down
Pretty sure you can do that one on any water planet
!tier
@mossy rune
Look @fringe agate! @fossil walrus 
New look for tier progress meter?
How do you lure the monstrosity
Can we take our units and nanites to main save?
No more oldschool DOS bar for progress?
Wow, how?
emoji sequence eh? Nice
Ok thx
DOS bar was cool, though
It certainly had a certain charm to it
May just be that I'm getting old.
Youngens nowadays are hard to satisfy
I’ve only done a couple expeditions but this one felt a lot easier than the last one
42% on that brood purge and climbing keep it up guys XD
are there any cool ships in the expedition systems that people have found
I liked the sentinel ship I found but it’s probably not unique
@ashen shore
No gifs in this channel please
i was going to say im doing my part but the bot got me lol
I've been in the game for so long that all the good ships just carry over to my expeditions. I did find a few of those new sentinel ships but I sold them for scrap
the dissonance ones?
yep
im just tryna find one to carry over onto my main save
Well that dissonance stuff happnes on one of those planets. There is one in the systems you have to go to .
i have a sentinal ship but its c class , im looking for atleast an a class
or anything good looking really 🥲
Focus on looks. Class u can always upgrade later
hi, when you go to the anomaly while in expedition, are all the players you see in the anomaly also on expeditions? or can i meet a friend that is not on the expedition?
Expeditions are separate
ok thanx 🙂
why not level up the one you have?
too pricyy
sell upgrades XD farm glass and sell the upgrades
true dat
where do i sell upgrades
cuz i have bunch
at the vendors on the space station
try !option oldschool on 👀
instead of buying upgrades you sell them for the nanites
❤️
I wish the UI would tell us what counts towards the "max # of tech on a device" type thing.
I don't wanna guess what's going towards the limit.
There is some way to see it, IIRC. Don't remember exactly how right now. Someone in #nms-questions would probably know it off the top of their head
Not directly, but with some "rule of thumb" thing
Real command?
! option oldschool on
@ashen shore Please use this command in #bot-spam.
It's real
Purple entities should know better
Does anyone else's game have these odd backgrounds?
That really doesn't sound like an expedition question. But no, I don't
Do I have to wait for the community to hit all the goals to get the liquidator pieces or can I finish the expedition?
You can finish it without the community goals.
Don't you have to hang around till the expedition ends / goals are met to get the liquidator pieces for free?
Bear in mind though, you can revert to your regular save and leave the expedition on ice, then return to it later via the anomaly once the goals are met. Or, you know, once a day to Do Your Part.....
Yes but will I get the liquidator pieces or will I still have to pay quicksilver?
I think you need to claim the optional milestones t oget the parts for free.
how can i tell if i've already killed 150 for the day? is there a fixed number of spawns per encounter with the little green aliens? if i kill all of them is that an easy way to know how many i killed?
i can 1 shot them with my scatter gun on close range so i can sometimes wipe them completely until the spawning subsides
So far it's just guessing.
ah damn. when i was killing em and i saw 150 and counting on this thing i stopped. pretty sure i didnt hit my number yet
thanks i will just wipe a whole horde for 20minutes or something i guess
yeah i think i realize that now
it just stays at that 150 and counting now no matter how many more i kill
can i transfer the pet egg i received for completing the milestones to my main save without ending the expedition yet?
You can't transfer pets or eggs at all. If it was a phase reward, a unique pet, then you'll be able to redeem that egg at quicksilver companion on the space anomaly.
oh thank you. i will check the QS npc. it was the purple spider egg you get as a reward really like the look of the pet i hope its claimable in main game.
Yeah, it is a unique pet. You should see that egg available at quicksilver companion when you get back to your primary save
yeah mean looking egg
awesome thank you!
It’s a cool looking one though
Does everyone have the same colored one though?
Mine is red
maybe ill check mine now. when i hatched the egg you get in the expedition i remember it looking purple. but then i reloaded my quicksave thinking i couldnt transfer the egg back to my main save.
yeah mine is pink
yeah once you complete all the milestones it shows up in the quick silver npc's expedition rewards section
so you can claim it
any tips on what to take with me when starting the expedition?
i usually take warp drive fuel and all the stuff you need to live
but i'm bad at expeditions so
Ok I will need to check this soon
Just some QOL stuff that would help you.
The expedition rewards give you a lot of goodies
from personal experience:
- with the tech stuff, i hoped i took my exosuit jectpack tech for movement. no need to take your multitool/ship tech because you can just claim and make a copy of your entire multitool and ship (including their installed tech mods) once you get to the anomaly in the expedition.
for the cost of nanites (total of 5600 for both). so i would take maybe 3 jetpack mods and then 2x 10 stack of the purple mode you unlock in salvage glass to then sell in the expedition for nanites so you can buy a copy of your MT/ship. - with resources stuff, i took recharging comsumables like carbon, oxygen, sodium, warp cells, launch fuels, tritium, etc.
Yeah tritium. For some reason I had to manually fly for about 15-20 minutes to find any "regular" (explodey) asteroids after running out of pulse fuel the first time. Really annoying.
Full body set? Where's the body or legs then
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