mod_development

[winter bolt]

but sendclientcommand doesnt work on the tick that those events are called so you have to delay it by another tick 💀

[small topaz]

Yeah... Maybe just sending commands from client on the appropriate events is pbbly easier (although it may provide some more cheating options). But for the sake of easy coding, I'll pbbly do this (and on game tick 2 or smth)

[winter bolt]

i did this and then the same for oncreateplayer

i did 3 ticks just to be safe but im assuming just 1 tick is fine

[silent zealot]

In the context of Zomboid modding, AI is extremely limited. You can use it for general lua questions (how do I remove all things in table A that are not in table B) or give it one function and ask it to explain... but for anything zomboid specific it will make things up that are far more work to fix than just doing them yourself.

[small topaz]

Only thing I am currently worried about is that if we do a lot of inventory and clothing management on server, couldn't this lead to serious performance issues on the server?

[winter bolt]

i think its fine since the server does a lot of that already and its infrequent

[small topaz]

when changing clothing as visuals only on server (as you do in your character creation mod), is it necessary to apply some sync command, like "player:getVisual():sync()" (pseudcode for now) ?

[winter bolt]

item:synchWithVisual()

the typo is the correct function name for some reason

if you're using bodyvisuals instead of clothing i think sendVisual(player) might work but im not sure

[small topaz]

is item then the player? or the "clothing" item we equip to the player?

[winter bolt]

the clothing item

AddBloodAndDirtToItem is just doing setDirt and setBlood on the item's visual and this has been working for me

as long as you call onclothingupdated

oh yeah i had to add a sendservercommand when doing stuff like this on the server to tell the client to call onclothingupdated btw

im pretty sure theres a delay after sending a clientcommand to the server so i dont think calling it after sending the command will work so i have the server send its own command back so the client definitely runs onclothingupdated after the server has modified the items

its extremely scuffed

[small topaz]

Thanks good to know. I also have some blood/dirt management on my items, so this helps a lot!

Do you also need to call item:synchWithVisual() when you equip such an item like a face texture to the player?

[winter bolt]

no thats just when changing the visual

if you set the texture of the item before you call sendadditemtocontainer it should sync since thats working for me

from what i remember for equipping items you need to do sendadditemtocontainer after adding to inv.

and then sendClothing after setting the worn item

unequipping the item i dont think needs a sync call but if any of your clothing items use a bodylocation that has multi item set to true then you'll run into a really annoying issue

[small topaz]

Multi item does not apply to my situation.

Just wondering whether I really need any of the sync commands when equipping items cause I equip them but not put them to inventory. But I'll test a bit more.

[small topaz]

Omg! I now have a first working version of my BodMod where I shifted all clothing and modData mangament to the server. Many thanks @winter bolt (and sorry for the ping again). Without you sharing your knowledge, it would have probably took me twice as long!

[unkempt rapids]

Hey folks, I tried multiple times on setting the visibility for a mod yet I always got error 15 when trying to make is public

And public is not even an option here

wondering anyone knows why? I've tested this mod and works fine in the game

[frozen venture]

Maybe just change it in the whorkshop file and update the mod

[haughty bridge]

I am working on a event/signal library and should I attatch PillAction to Item_Consumed

or should it contain its own event

[bright fog]

Camel snake case

But to answer your question, idk, it depends what information that events output

I think making it its own event is worth it ? But does the game differentiate taking a pill or consuming food ? I believe yes no ?

So I'd probably separate it

[haughty bridge]

I feel like this was a bad library icon

I couldnt think of anything else

[bright fog]

Got to find something hehe

[haughty bridge]

I mean I thought it was pretty straight to the point

[unkempt rapids]

thx for the guidance. I've updated in the workshop yet still getting error 15

[haughty bridge]

Signals:GetEvent("OnGameBoot"):Connect(function()
    print("STARTED")
end)

---@param item InventoryItem
---@param client IsoPlayer
Signals:GetEvent("Food_Consumed"):Connect(function(item, client)
    
end)

I mean hey if it works it works

connections can also be overwritten and since they run in a row it means you dont have 17 different mods all try to override 1 base ISBaseTimedAction to add a event to it

---@param Event string
---@return Signal | any
function module:GetEvent(Event)
    if module.CachedEvents[Event] then
        return module.CachedEvents[Event]
    end

    if Events[Event] then
        module.CachedEvents[Event] = SignalBuilder.new()

        Events[Event].Add(function(...)
            module.CachedEvents[Event]:Execute(...)
        end)

        return module.CachedEvents[Event]
    end

    return nil
end

I am also storing events so that way it isnt creating like 30,000 events

I could of probably reduced indexing

infact I am gonna do that

[bright fog]

Wait what does this do ?

[haughty bridge]

just a simple mod that changes the syntax for events from

.Add

To :connect

there is a few other things

like using threading to prevent yielding

and being able to pause events

or destroy them entirely

[bright fog]

.Add is still possible ?

[haughty bridge]

and as I said extends some ISBaseTimedAction

oh yeah

[bright fog]

Wdym pause them ?

[haughty bridge]

You can use halt to pause a connection so on it trying to run all the connections this one wont

and since they run in their own thread you do not have to worry about having to wait on every connection to run before yours

you can technically use .add or override ISBaseTimedAction

this is just easier/faster for me

and since you can also create signals as well it also means you can create internal events for you mod so that way other people can hook into your mods events

for example one mod could do

local MyEvent = SignalBuilder.new()
Signals:AttatchSignal(MyEvent, "Test_Event")

Signals:GetEvent("OnGameBoot"):Connect(function()
    print("STARTED")

    MyEvent:Execute(true)
end)

---@param item InventoryItem
---@param client IsoPlayer
Signals:GetEvent("Item_Consumed"):Connect(function(item, client)
    
end):AttatchOperator("testmod:Item_Consumed")

and another could do

---@param test boolean
Signals:GetEvent("Test_Event"):Connect(function(test)
    
end)
Signals:GetEvent("Item_Consumed").Operators["testmod:Item_Consumed"]:Disconnect()

[civic galleon]

I cannot open my own mods change notes and have seen others report this. Something on Valve's end imo

[silent zealot]

I just logged a ticket with steam suport, so in a few weeks I'll tell you why they are not able to help.

It really annoying because I finally have time to sit down and work on mmy zomboid mods and I'm being blocked from seeing what is working/what isn't, can't leave any updates to set expectations for mods, etc etc.

[civic galleon]

I feel that 100%, I've had to unlist my mod. Several people have reached out to help but ultimately I just need time.

[silent zealot]

I unlisted a couple that aren't worth updating.

Some others I might delist but I'd like to check subscriber numbers first. Except steam is broken.

[civic galleon]

I was almost at 600k then mp dropped and people started unsubbing from everything

Tbf Sleep With Friends is borked now. I'm trying to learn sendClientCommand but of course it does not want to even make print commands fire. I'm hoping its just a "late night mistake" and was just too tired to see the issue last night

[silent zealot]

Too tired to sleep with friends? 😛

[civic galleon]

< why isn't my mod workingggg zzzzZZZzzzZZZ

I fell asleep at the computer last night I was so desperate to get this done before I do a week of crazy overtime at work

[willow tulip]

syncItemModData(player,item); is kinda weird when we could have item:syncItemModData() or something.

Also having issues using item:syncItemFields() when the item is inside a vehicle, and the data to be synced is fluids the item contains

(in my case, its a mixture of 2~ fluids, im not sure if that is important at all)

Or even better, some kinda universal 'verbage' for syncing. ie, it shouldn't be a mix of transmit or sync, pick a verb: transmit OR sync, and all commands that do that thing should follow it. ie 'transmitModData' instead of 'syncItemModData' transmit vs sync.

(I looked in the vanilla code and syncItemModData(player,item); is the only example I saw in the vanilla LUA)

[bright fog]

Are you making a Java mod ?

[bright fog]

I'm gonna be honest this is a bit confusing how this can be used by modders, bcs it looks like you basically add a layer on top of events. You're talking about "own thread" but that's literally impossible to do with just a Lua mod, that's not a thing, and if it did that wouldn't even work based on how PZ code handles most of the stuff (majority of stuff are on a single thread and run one after the other, at least for the layer modders can access with Lua)
Override ISBaseTimedAction also sounds like a terrible idea, unless that's unclear what you do here.

Changing the notation of event adding is also kind of problematic and really unecessary imo ? Nothing is stopping you from directly hooking to the default way of adding callbacks to events. At least I hope your code doesn't change any vanilla behavior of events or else that could nuke other mods out of nowhere the moment there's a problem

[bright fog]

This would prove useful BUT there's a huge flaw in design here, because modders that need to hook to other modder's events will most likely depend on modders actually using that lib AND registering their events into a MyEvent/Signal system, but if you need to hook to the call of another mod you will most definitely not try to hook to a modder using that system

Also is the modder simply overriding the callback or hooking to it here ?

I think a proper doc or actual usage example in conditions to see what this could be used for

[raven epoch]

sim help

actually uhh

nvm

ok in set mod data

i give it a table?

[bright fog]

Mod data IS a table itself

[raven epoch]

ah

how do i set it tho

brain kinda dead sorry about that

just need to set a boolean for an object

[bright fog]

You don't set mod data

You just store stuff in it

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_data

[small osprey]

Maybe that is more of a topic for #pzwiki_editing but wouldn't it be nice if https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Category:Current_Lua_events was organized by "runs in /client/server/SP"? Or some other .. "runs only when blablabla"

[raven epoch]

so i cannot set it per object?

[bright fog]

Hmm, I can do something like that

[raven epoch]

back to global tables it is

[bright fog]

Yes you can ? Read the wiki page

You're talking before even reading

[raven epoch]

mb

this mod melted me brain a bit

[bright fog]

Tbh the Lua event pages need a small clean up, I didn't bother with it because the LuaDocs did the job

[raven epoch]

is a cansee check more costly or a distance check

or neglible diff

[bright fog]

Test it

[small osprey]

Uhm the LuaDocs? 😅 . Sorry for the stupid question but where/what is that

I have 4 ways to find truths that I bump around between

1. search pzwiki
2. search https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/
3. search game files
4. check in console with debug and prints and stuff

I don't decompile the Java scources, but I know people find good stuff in there.

[bright fog]

@frank elbow Looking at the translation note, either we do that (screenshot), or we just directly update that page to not list previous versions, which I'm personally more for since the modding wiki should show the last version information

This way so it shows it's for 42.13.1 and then it's just the current encoding

[haughty bridge]

It’s not like it overrides the base system mind you. It’s just a utility

With someone different syntax

[bright fog]

The LuaDocs is mentioned in the main Lua event page
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_event
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/LuaDocs

[raven epoch]

looks so much like roblox studio

[bright fog]

It's fairly new, not getting a lot of love for now but will get some more with plans to move it sphinx

[bright fog]

The hooking to other mods events is a bit confusing

[raven epoch]

still cant get isoplayer to run

[small osprey]

Cool! Is it fair to say that LuaDocs is a "subset" of the JavaDocs ?
It reduces to the the stuff that is exposed + adds more details and explanations?
Or there are also functions that come on top that are purely in lua PZ?

[raven epoch]

iswalkto seems to disable running

[bright fog]

Yes

It lists functions and classes

[haughty bridge]

It’s kinda just either making custom events or if you want removing another mods event in place of yours

[bright fog]

Tables etc

[bright fog]

But removing another mods event require them to use your lib ?

[haughty bridge]

Yes, that’s the only thing

I doubt that part would be used at all

It’s mostly gonna be for easier events

[bright fog]

Yea that's likely, the problem being that if a mod uses the lib to give this ability to other mods it's probably a bad design

[bright fog]

But how does it make it easier tho ?

For custom events for example there is Starlit which provides a framework to add new events

And to hook to events the vanilla way looks way easier to use than what you showed

[raven epoch]

despite all of this i cant get the isoplayer to run

at most it seems to run for a second before reverting to walking

[silent zealot]

How do items get tags? for example base.blowtorch has the BLOW_TORCH tag, and I know this because I can find item:hasTag(ItemTag.BLOW_TORCH) in the code... but I can't find "BLOW_TORCH" anywhere except in the checks. It's not in the item definition at all.

...wait, did they move this to $%#@^ing java code?

[small osprey]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/88499-modding-migration-guide-4213/ mentions new registries.lua that has been discussed here also. I haven't touched it personally.

[silent zealot]

Yeah. It's in java. I guess that's one way to avoid the shitty parser killing the entire game when it tries to read item scripts.

[small osprey]

Tags now require the ItemTag registry.

[silent zealot]

I've seen that, but it doesn't explain how the vanilla objects get tags or give a list all tags.

All the vanilla tags are in java.

actually that's probably a screenshot of the wrong thing, but you get the idea.

[small osprey]

Ah I get what you are saying. Well maybe there is a way to read them from the registry?

[silent zealot]

some items get tags in their script... but not all. Also looks like case is different between java and item script files, which are all lower case.

This is feeling like a problem for tomorrow. 😛

[bright fog]

Yes

[abstract summit]

can someone make more traits mod for b42 mp

[bright fog]

Why don't you do it ?

[abstract summit]

because i dont know how to code

if i could i would

[bright fog]

Then commission someone or learn

[abstract summit]

alr bro i dont want it anymore i just asked

[placid zealot]

Is there a tool provided by PZ for converting Moodle image files to each of the sizes the game expects, or must that be done manually (or via a script)?

[bright fog]

What's your goal with that ?

The game allows you to automatically rescale textures in-game when using in UI elements

[placid zealot]

In B42, the structure for the Moodles folder is six individual folders (128, 96, 80, 64, 48, 32). I assumed downscales for each had to be done by the modder. Have I missed the correct way to do it?

[frank elbow]

I indicated my reasoning for not just updating it in the edit note. & that's the way I typically see and do it on Wikipedia lol, but sounds good as long as it gets the info across 👍

[trim yacht]

Hoping someone can help here. I have a standard flow/structure for my mods which works fine, but for some bizarre reason that I cannot figure out... this mod just won't load. I see 2 lines in the logs:

loading \phunfixes
mod "\phunfixes" overrides icon.png

Then it goes on to the other mods. Interestingly, the other mods have 2 override mentions (I assume one for 42.0.0 and one for common) but this one only overrides the one. Its also not picking up on the other overrides like sandbox-options, etc... Any ideas on where I have gone wrong?

[bright fog]

Yea I didn't see the note bcs you had two edits

[tired glen]

Is there a way to add more entries to the challenges list? I want to try messing with last stand accumulator to add more stuff u can buy

[mellow frigate]

the logs are only for overrides, (meaning the file logged was chosen from the override folder instead of the common folder's version). other files of the 42.0.0 folder may be loaded without overriding common folder files.

[trim yacht]

Thanks for your answer. Though this sort of stands out as the behaviour is exactly like the 42.0.0 folder is not being loaded and only the common folder is. I can even stick media folders from the other mods into the 42.0.0 and nothing loads. Can't even find a single file in the debugger. What could lead to this folder not loading?

[grizzled fable]

is anyone able to load mods on workshop? i get error 2

[mellow frigate]

I had the same problem from ingame update. I never had the problem with https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Steam_Uploader. but now I have Steam "too many requests" when looking at workshop changes, though it is probably unrelated 😄

[placid zealot]

The "Too Many Requests" error seems to be occurring widespread on Steam. I was having trouble accessing both other people's mod discussion pages, and even my own mods' discussion tab and change log yesterday.

[civic galleon]

I bet on accidental ddos or similar whoopsie causing the "Too Many Requests"

[grizzled fable]

any manual for this? XD

[icy night]

Hey, is there a pzwiki guide on all the various options you can make when writing sandbox options?

I'm looking for a way to make certain options become "hidden" when you select a certain option that overrides it. I saw it in vanilla sandbox options

[thin swan]

There's stuff in the vanilla sandbox options that aren't available to mods unfortunately. But the sandbox menu is all Lua, so if you really want to you can wire up your own custom UI that shows when selecting your mod's options where you can do whatever you want

You can see the options available for mods here:
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Sandbox_options

[pulsar pecan]

Hello guys,
I’m new in creating own mods especially in Pz. Is there any good tutorial or guidelines of how I can modify the game?
I have some coding background.
Most of the tutorials I found are mostly ppl who copy/paste stuff from others but don’t know how all the stuff actually works.
I’m mostly interested in creating some kind of events or systems that gives some quality of life and more atmosphere here and there.(like the crowbar in common sense).Not just copying and rename them.
Is there something like a overview of functions and methods or stuff like that.
Thanks for all advise

[grizzled fable]

what is this?

[small topaz]

A starting point is the modding section in the pz wiki: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

When it comes to modding by adding new lua code, there is also a modding guide by Fenris_Wolf which I found very helpful: https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide , especially the "The code" section: https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide/blob/master/api/README.md . Most important parts are where they explain the event system and how to properly "overwrite" vanilla code (which you actually shouldn't do but they explain the proper work-around). Problem is that this guide is quite outdated when it comes to modding B42. Multiplayer B42 is also not covered there. However, the basic principles for single player modding explained there are still valid. Only thing to note is that the game's lua code structure and various lua and java commands have changed quite a lot over time.

[pulsar pecan]

Thanks for that! I’ll work myself through that.
At least I get the basics of how all that works😅

[bronze yoke]

sorry but i think you're misunderstanding what threading does in lua, threads aren't able to run concurrently

their only purpose is to allow you to write coroutines, they aren't 'real' multithreading

from how you've written this i think it's fair to say you're obviously coming from roblox, roblox is an extremely unique environment and does not really work how lua works (even before luau)

[bright fog]

The Lua (language) wiki page too can be useful to learn the basics of it

[wet sandal]

Anyone know what's up with TimesActions in MP?
In the debugger it doesn't seem like TimeActions (specifically ISWearClothing) is completing on the client.

The results seem to complete alright. But I can't catch it calling complete

[bronze yoke]

did you read the migration guide? complete is only called on the server

[wet sandal]

I did not

[bronze yoke]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1448602571810803785

[wet sandal]

Thanks, you're the best @bronze yoke

So I'm guessing the server doesn't forward events to the client?

ISWearClothing calls the OnClothingUpdated event in perform, but this is before the new clothes are actually equipped, so not useful.

I work around this in SP by patching complete to call it again. But that seems like a no go in MP.

I guess I'm going back to per frame updates for now.

[bronze yoke]

yeah it doesn't, completely separate environment

[placid zealot]

When writing Moodle mods (or any mods that merely replace image files) for B42, is it better to prefer storing the contents in 42, or in common? I'd assumed 42 originally, but certain related mods (such as Moodles In Lua) seem to recommend common.

[bronze yoke]

common makes the most sense for assets

[placid zealot]

Wouldn't any change to the file structure break the mod, though? IIRC, even in early minor versions of B42, Moodles were structured differently (a single folder rather than sub-folders, and border files had different names). I don't think it's possible to go back to those versions (at least from Steam's Beta tab), only 42.12, but still.

[bronze yoke]

yesss but then it doesn't make sense to put anything in common because anything can move

if you're concerned about that then you can use the version folders, i don't imagine a mod like that will get too large anyway, but the main purpose is that common can hold assets so that they aren't duplicated and bloat the file size when code changes have to be made

[mellow frigate]

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/694247829077623422/

[tulip valve]

    if player:HasTrait(CharacterTrait.Desensitized) then
       player:getStats():reset(CharacterStat.STRESS)
    end
end
Events.OnTick.Add(NoStress.Tick)```

Why does this not work?

[bronze yoke]

hasTrait

[bright fog]

Highly advise you use Umbrella

This should catch a lot of these projects with proper usage

[tulip valve]

No idea what that is

[tulip valve]

still gives error

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[tulip valve]

Im not seeing the difference lol

[bright fog]

Wdym ? You didn't install it yet did you ?

[tulip valve]

no

[bright fog]

Anytime a function is unknown it tells you

[tulip valve]

I see

[bright fog]

If you use proper Typings and indicate that player is an IsoPlayer it'll scream at you for using improper functions that don't exist

See the typing wiki page too

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Typing

[opaque hornet]

42.12 I slightly modified a mod and now I can't get it to show up in the mod list.
42.12 steam, linux, linux compatiblity. Mod is in ~/Zomboid/mods
mod files re in 42 folder

I've tried a bunch of stuff and have a bunch of other local mods that are loaded fine. IDK why this one isn't. I wanted to ask here if it's a known issue

[bright fog]

PZ is Linux compatible natively

Verify your mod has the project structure

Notably not a missing common folder

[opaque hornet]

It is missing common, is that required?

[bright fog]

Yes

Common mistake

pun non intended

[opaque hornet]

oh ok, well sounds like an easy fix. The wierd thing is it was working before! It only stopped when I deleted it from workshop I think.

Thanks for tip, I'll look that up and add it tomorrow

[bright fog]

common was always mandatory since B42

If you used a git repo clone, and the common folder was empty, it's not present in the repo

So when you clone, that folder isn't there

[opaque hornet]

I do have one other question - I'm lead to belive you can specify version compatibility with the folder name, e.g 42 or 42.0 for all 42.x or 42.13 for that specific version>
There's also mod.info minRequiredVersion, that's a minimum.
Does PZ rely on the mod.info only, or primarily or what. There's 2 sources of truth that file and the folder name so if they are in conflict which wins. And can you use any folder name if you have correct mod.info files?

[opaque hornet]

That's almost certainly what happened!

[bright fog]

Nah PZ doesn't use the mod.info things to load your mod besides its ID and required mods

The versioning and common folders are mandatory

If you haven't yet, I suggest reading the Mod structure wiki page

[opaque hornet]

OMG I just added the empty folder and it's working. I really hope they fix that soon, I tried so many BS fixes, that's really dumb

And TY!

[tulip valve]

Devs trolling lol

[opaque hornet]

Yeah I wondered if it was accurate or outdated

litterally!

[bright fog]

I don't know if they'll fix it 😅

[bright fog]

You can see the version the wiki pages were last updated for

[opaque hornet]

There's not even a damn error in console! I searched for the mod id and name in every file zomboid can see and there was nothing, it's pretty poor design

[bright fog]

Currently, pages are accurate for the entire B42 builds for the most part

In some cases, if the info is inaccurate I add a small indicator of it on the wiki pages if I notice they need updating

[opaque hornet]

Ok cool, good to know, that's nice

well I guess we can put a bit of the blame on git for not tracking folders too

[bright fog]

You can add a .gitkeep file in that folder I believe

Should do the trick

[opaque hornet]

Ok will do. I was just going to plonk some unused png or something 🙂

[bright fog]

Yea just use an empty text file at the very least with a very obvious name to understand that that file does nothing

[opaque hornet]

Sure thing. What a gottcha though. Should have asked sooner.

Can I make a suggestion somewhere to at least show a log entry when a mod is disqualified due to impropper structure like this? is there some feedback site or something?

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/72427-feedback-and-suggestions-for-project-zomboid-really-really-important-idea-check-it-please/
maybe this

[bright fog]

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1318920979581501502

[opaque hornet]

Thanks

[haughty bridge]

I know that, I never said it was for real multithreading.

Just in that I am using them to prevent having to wait a long time on your event to run

[bright fog]

[bronze yoke]

@bright fog could you unpin the two pins in here about body locations? they're pre-registries and don't work anymore

[bright fog]

These ones I assume ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[bright fog]

Done

[bronze yoke]

thanks 👍

[tired glen]

does the wave defense gamemode work in mp? all the lua is in the client folder

[shy mantle]

How does split screen on a multiplayer server mess with sending client commands and mod data? Player 1 seems to work fine, but any players after that on the same client don't seem to work when trying to save mod data to those other split screen players (other commands work fine, it's just saving mod data for when the split screened player logs back in and whatever other purpose).

I forgot to test if it's even saving during OnClientCommand, but regardless of that I want to know more about it

[bright fog]

Can you even play in splitscreen in MP ?

I guess yes lol

Splitscreen players are on the same client, so it's a bit of a bizarre thing to handle

Syncing with other players in the session is too much work to bother putting in. When it comes to commands, I guess you could make the original sender client also receive the command client side and update every local players

When it comes to the vanilla syncing commands, idk if they implement that

[shy mantle]

Probably not worth doing then since most people don't do split screen AND mp at the same time. It's not like it doesn't work if split screen is enabled on mp, it does, I just can't save if the player was on the vehicle on log out, it's no big deal.

[bronze yoke]

commands should work fine with splitscreen

if you're using the player passed to OnClientCommand then make sure the right player is sending it

sendClientCommand with no player argument always sends it from player 1

[shy mantle]

Ooooh, that last part was it. I assumed it knew which of the players the client was sending, in hindsight I guess it makes sense if it just defaulted if not specified

[dawn lynx]

Did I miss something? not sure why I can't upload, I've uploaded before...

[bronze yoke]

you can't upload Build41NoWeight in b42 because it doesn't have a mod.info in the build 42 location

[bright fog]

If I had to guess, it's that B41 mod the problem

[bronze yoke]

just put both versions in the same mod, they don't overlap

[bright fog]

Alternatively, you can upload with an external uploader to bypass the in-game uploader limitations

But yea you can mix both B41 and B42 folder structure

[bright fog]

Also that mod.info file next to the 42 and common folder in your B42 folder is useless

[bronze yoke]

it could actually cause a lot of issues since b41 will see it

[bright fog]

Indeed

[bronze yoke]

if they have the same mod id then you'll trigger the mod pack issue

[bright fog]

Both mix when they have the same IDs no ? So technically there wouldn't be any overrides no ?

[bronze yoke]

no only one is used

and it is not deterministic which one

[bright fog]

oof

[bronze yoke]

more than one mod with the same id = server can't tell the client to use the right one = checksum mismatch

that's what the coming mod id changes in b42 are intended to fix

[topaz tangle]

need ideas for which of the new profession vehicles to do for my 89 econoline

[placid zealot]

Are there wiki pages or repositories that've recorded the layout of the media folder (and/or similar folders) among the various versions of the game? I was hoping to not have to downgrade and upgrade again just for a sanity check (though I'll probably end up needing to soon anyway).

[bright fog]

No but it's basically the same

Just the location of the media folder changed for mods

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[placid zealot]

Ah, I know b41 mods use the mod root as their initial point and b42 use version numbers and common. Rather I meant the game files themselves. The locations and formats of certain things have changed rather starkly between versions. For example in B41, iirc, moodles used a .pack file contained in some folder that I can't remember, while in 42 they're in ui/Moodles where each subfolder contains regular .pngs.

[bronze yoke]

only very specific things like that have changed

i don't think there's any documentation of that on the wiki

[bright fog]

Nah there isn't

The wiki doesn't cover B41 stuff

[bright fog]

And we wanted to cover modding changes on the wiki but it proved to be an impossible task to maintain

Bcs not everything are written in the patch notes

And considering I am the only maintaining a lot of these things it wasn't viable 😅

[young trellis]

{
    CharacterTrait = lrrp:lactose,
    UIName = UI_trait_lrrp_lactose,
    UIDescription = UI_trait_lrrp_lactose_desc,
    Icon = media/ui/traits/trait_lrrp_lactose.png,
    Cost = -1,
} ```

So for my script I've checked for syntax errors etc however I cannot seem to figure out how to properly reflect my icon for my trait in the selection screen, can anybody tell me where the game is pulling the tell to fix that?

[bronze yoke]

media/ui/traits/Trait_lactose.png

the icon cannot be specified in the script

[pliant minnow]

sorry to intrude, tried to make my first mod recently got the functionality working but couldn't get the sprite showing up PZ evan tried using another mod as a complete template just overriding the files it called up in the code is there any issues using fbx files for sprites or should i go for x files btw trying to add my Tungsten cube into the game thought it would be funny to smash zombie skulls with it 😄

[young trellis]

Where can it be specified at now?

[bronze yoke]

nowhere, it has to be that exact filename

it's based on the name (but not namespace) of the CharacterTrait

[willow tulip]

@bronze yoke ❤️ that request idea.

Vanilla code is gonna be so much better at resource location then mods all trying to do it themselves

[young trellis]

Which file, the lua file or the script itself?

[shy mantle]

What's the best way to test a mod in mp that my computer can handle lol

[dawn lynx]

I've removed that, and the ID's are separate - I released an update in January with both 41 and 42 mods and it worked, but things have changed since then

[dawn lynx]

wdym put it in the same mod? like the same mod folder? would I just create a "41" folder and put the mod in there?

[bronze yoke]

no 41 folder, just copy things in exactly as they are

build 42 only looks for files inside common + version folder, build 41 doesn't look inside these folders at all, so there is no issue from doing this

[dawn lynx]

okay I'll give it a shot, ty

that worked - thank you!

[sage kindle]

does anyone know why my model is not showing up

[sonic gazelle]

might be something to do with the 9889 errors

[bronze yoke]

probably related to the 9889 errors

[haughty bridge]

Well yeah lol

4 years of Roblox work lmao

I’m one of the more well known scripters on there

Definitely new to zomboid

Are you saying they changed how coroutines function

I’m used to the round robin system

Where each cycle it handles each thread including main

Not referring to the task scheduler which operated entirely different

[bronze yoke]

coroutines run when you directly run them and block the thread until they yield

there isn't really anything beyond that

[haughty bridge]

Hm

That is really unfortunate

Well thanks for telling me

I didn’t know their threads worked different

Well not threads but

[bronze yoke]

yeah, the point of coroutines is literally just the convenience of being able to yield and resume, they don't do anything else

[haughty bridge]

That really sucks

In luau lune and Roblox luau coroutines run concurrently

Well kinda

It’s not true concurrency

It’s more of a Que of actions to run

Does zomboid have access to some kinda asynchronous system?

or does everything just yield the main thread?

[bronze yoke]

there's no concurrency whatsoever

[haughty bridge]

thats really lame

[sage kindle]

I am using Tomb's Player Body Overhaul and this is what it is suppose to look like. But then I tried to make the character model just a little bit more thicker . So I tried to replace the original model with my newer model and just renaming it to female body.fbx did I need to go bind my new file with something else to make it show up in the game

[soft jetty]

Keep in mind if you change his masterpiece that your body may clip through clothing. And basetextures can look weird if you destroyed the uv.

[sage kindle]

risk I am willing to take because I was originally using the thicker pear shaped model but Tombs player body overall has better faces so I was trying to combine the 2

[indigo hound]

@iron salmon Can you connect me with any of the artists?) I want to know what the text should be here. I'm translating the spawn map.

:3

[trim yacht]

Trying to add an item to a dead zed client side but having an issue. The item appears, but cannot be removed from the body. Am assuming this is because the server doesn't know its there, but why not? Of course I can do server side (which works) but ideally need to do client side... for reasons.

local items = zed:getInventory():AddItems("Base.ThingAmAdding", 1)
sendAddItemsToContainer(zed:getInventory(), items);

[raven epoch]

is there an inbuilt way to get roads like vehicle stories

or do u ahve to do it manuıally

[bright fog]

No

[raven epoch]

nooooo

ok

is there an inbuilt way to black out the scren

like fade in fade out

[main pasture]

Yes

[raven epoch]

how

[main pasture]

UIManager.FadeIn(0.5) where the float is time in seconds. I haven't tested this in a while, but it at least used to work like this

[raven epoch]

oh thank you

[main pasture]

Just make sure you don't fade out without fading back in, because you can't use UI for exiting while faded out

[raven epoch]

test

why cant i send vid

[winter bolt]

it has to be done on the server or the item cant be interacted with

[fast otter]

How do i know what folder my .lua files should go into? Thinking abot the Lua/Client or the Lua/Server folder path.

[raven epoch]

me when i run into recursive requiring (mod is cooked)

[raven epoch]

how does one teleport a player far away

tried set position but doesnt seem to work

[bright fog]

I believe you need to set lastX or some shit like that too

I suggest checking out the RV interior mods

[raven epoch]

gah

ok

i think im pretty sure

game auto unloads isoplayers when they are too far away

which is nice

alright it is weird

RV interiors does setX setY setZ and setLX and set LY ...

i did the same but when i teleport

it seems to try to load for a second before teleporting me back

alright fixed

u gotta add the LX and LY or it no work

[nimble badger]

You could do this by just replacing the Uv's and plopping them down on the new mesh that you need, Still no clue why you would want this g 😭

[raven epoch]

finally

[bright fog]

That's pretty cool

[raven epoch]

ty

though i dont like how i did the cutscene trigger

not good to check every tick but idk how else to do it without causing recursive requiring

[bright fog]

Why do you not just trigger the function ?

Also you're still not using Umbrella ????

[raven epoch]

didnt see need for umbrella

[raven epoch]

because

function needs NPCMain to spawn npcs

but NPCMain also calls the encounter logic loop

so recursive loop

if i call it from when i set it which is inside encounter logic

[bright fog]

But you should define your cutscene handler in a different file

[raven epoch]

it is

[bright fog]

Not really

[raven epoch]

its that a NPC calls the

cutscene

but the cutscene

needs the npc module

to spawn the npcs

[bright fog]

I see the problem

[raven epoch]

wish there was an event like

moddata changed or smth

aah ok i got an idea

im going to seperate encounter from npc main

that should work

ye ty

[bright fog]

Imo you should have a main class that includes every systems

[raven epoch]

rn i got NPCMain

that requires npc types

to spawn them

then an encounter that was tied to NPCmain which i will seperate rn

the rest are utility

[small osprey]

May wanna look at Champy's https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3569303590 or my https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3594105442 - for inspiration. Both for indoors for now and not updated to 42.13 😬 so no guarantees.

Open to colab for outdoor scene support for SceneBuilder and Multiplayer/42.13 help though 😅 . There is a github 🫰

[raven epoch]

ooh thank you

lemme check it up rn

[bright fog]

@raven epoch have you setup Umbrella ?

[raven epoch]

nope

it helps autocomplete?

[bright fog]

Yes, it helps with everything

It also helps finding problems before testing stuff

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[raven epoch]

o ty

might install it

[bright fog]

With such a huge project it's not "might" it's "must"

[raven epoch]

ye true

i was losing my mind debugging that cutscene

i made it so that

when an npc encounters a player

they stop all their own ai

and make an "encounter "object

that handles ai

so i can coordinate multiple npcs

[small osprey]

which mod are you working on? 🙂 is it published?

[raven epoch]

nope

[bright fog]

A NPC mod

[raven epoch]

just a mod adding npcs

mostly military

[small osprey]

"just" 😅

cool!

[raven epoch]

ty they kinda dumb rn tho

checking ur

scene editor rn

[small osprey]

Fair warning, it is not used by any published mod - so real world testing is, well, zero.

[raven epoch]

its fine

ooh

this reminds me of my

auto fortify function

(it was not good)

but this is good

[dull moss]

How does one hook onto OnCreate in .13?
I used to do it this way

local original_Recipe_OnCreate_RipClothing = Recipe.OnCreate.RipClothing;
---Overwriting Recipe.OnCreate.RipClothing() here to insert ETW logic catching player ripping clothing
---@param craftRecipeData
---@param character IsoPlayer
function Recipe.OnCreate.RipClothing(craftRecipeData, character)
    if not isServer() then
        local modData = ETWCommonFunctions.getETWModData(character)
        if #modData.UniqueClothingRipped < SBvars.SewerUniqueClothesRipped and ETWCommonLogicChecks.SewerShouldExecute() then
            local items = craftRecipeData:getAllConsumedItems();
            local item = items:get(0)
            modOptions = PZAPI.ModOptions:getOptions("ETWModOptions");
            ---@type DebugAndNotificationArgs
            local DebugAndNotificationArgs = {detailedDebug = detailedDebug(), notification = notification(), delayedNotification = delayedNotification()};
            ---@cast item Clothing
            if detailedDebug() then print("ETW Logger | Recipe.OnCreate.RipClothing() item: " .. item:getName()) end
            ETWCombinedTraitChecks.addClothingToUniqueRippedClothingList(character, item, DebugAndNotificationArgs);
        end
    end
    original_Recipe_OnCreate_RipClothing(craftRecipeData, character);
end

I looked into wiki page for crafting recipes but its not updated for .13

[bright fog]

The vanilla OnCreate are Java sided now

I believe they are called from Lua side tho so you should probably be able to hook to it

Also the craftRecipe wiki page is still fairly accurate

[bronze yoke]

they aren't named the same things

[bright fog]

That too

[bronze yoke]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/scripting/logic/RecipeCodeOnCreate.html

[dull moss]

[raven epoch]

nope still recursive

fixed by using a different script to hold tables

😔

[raven epoch]

what is a good way to check

if something is loaded/exists?

lets say i got an variable set to an isoplayer and it moved far away and despawned

but variable still holds the reference

wat do then

[small osprey]

Uhm 1. check if it is nil, 2 check if one of its properties is nil.

[raven epoch]

oh property check

ok

[placid zealot]

There's no point in supporting (or backporting) versions prior to Build 41 Stable (41.78.16), right? Is it even possible to make a mod work for two different minor version of Build 41, due to the lack of versioning folders?

[bronze yoke]

if the changes necessary are only lua you can have lua checks for game version, but there is literally no point to doing that no

[bright fog]

No one uses older B41 versions

[willow tulip]

thats not how require/etc is used...

So, first off, file A can declare some functions, and file B can declare some functions

file A can call B's functions, and B can call A's functions, even without either requiring either, so long as its done after the initial run of the file

require is only to make sure that A loads before B, and that you can pass whatever the 'return' value of A to B

[raven epoch]

huh thats interesting

[willow tulip]

B can even then add its own functions to the table A might have returned.

[raven epoch]

im pretty much running on roblox studio logic here so thats why

[willow tulip]

and then it could call functions in A, and A can call those functions so long as B declared them and set the values before trying to call them

[willow tulip]

So, imagine one GIANT horrible global namespace.

[bronze yoke]

the problem is you usually want to require during the initial run of the file

[willow tulip]

And each file is 'run' once.. and only once, and then the output of each file is cached.

when you 'run' a file, your actually compiling functions and assigning them to values in the global namespace.

function foo() end actually declares the global 'foo' and assigns a function to that value.

[bronze yoke]

you can delay requires if you really want to but this is horrible style and imo circular dependencies are bad design inherently regardless of whether it causes an error or not

[willow tulip]

And everything that runs afterwards can call foo() or even assign it a new value if they wish.

(this is how we do hooks in LUA)

[raven epoch]

what should ia dd

[civic galleon]

Where can I find documentation about this so called sync'ing?
I am modifyhing player stats but they do not stick, I assume becuase of lack of said sync'ing

[bright fog]

Check the pinned messages

Also the Networking wiki page can help but it's not updated to the new syncing methods available and only covers commands for now

[civic galleon]

None of the last 3 pinned posts answer my question

player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.FATIGUE, newFatigue ) Does not stick, even when coming from a .lua in /Server

I will check the Networking page, but your notes do not give encouragement

I understand communicating between server and client, but I dont understand what I am "syncing" where

[civic galleon]

Do I just run player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.FATIGUE, newFatigue) on both the server and client? Obviously I fetch the player differently on the server, but just make sure theyre set the same within a certain timelimit or else the game catches the desync???

[bright fog]

It seems you're missunderstanding what the server folder is

[civic galleon]

I must be 😅

[bright fog]

Also that function you mentioned set is not doing the syncing

It JUST sets the stats server OR client side based on where it's called from

Wait does it ?

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_(API)#Load_order

I'll look for the proper syncing for stats

[civic galleon]

so then:

• Set client side (what is happening now)
• Send command with args to be caught with Events.OnClientCommand.Add(handler)
• Use 'handler' to also run the set method, this is how it runs "server side"

is this correct?

[bright fog]

You shouldn't set anything client side, most of the logic should be done server side these days

[civic galleon]

ah ok so basically move what im doing to a function that will fire on the correct "clientCommand"?

[bright fog]

The game should handle the stat sync, I'm looking for that information rn

@bronze yoke the stats of the character get automatically synced ?

It's a bit unclear from the timed action example they use in their guide

[bronze yoke]

no

i don't really know why there's three functions for syncing stats but i've used sendPlayerStat(player, stat) with success

[bright fog]

Wasn't there a list of every syncing functions somewhere ?

[bronze yoke]

the migration guide had a list of some syncing functions

but far from all

[bright fog]

Yea that's why I didn't find that function

[civic galleon]

Where? Even searching for sync gives zero results in the Migration Guide pdf

[bronze yoke]

it'd be in the document describing inventory items

but again, i don't think these ones were even listed

[civic galleon]

Ahh ok that makes sense why I didn't look there

Hmmm.

[wet sandal]

Inventory Tetris is a garbage mod

Look at this GC!

GasGasGas.mp3

💀

[bright fog]

jeez

[wet sandal]

Mistakes clearly made

Not entirely sure where, but I'll find them

The FPS drop isn't normal

I already sorted that bit

[civic galleon]

So then, being that now I know /Server doesnt mean it runs on the server. How do I make something run on the server?

is it just by running a function through Events.OnClientCommand.Add(functionToHandleCommand)

the function functionToHandleCommand would technically then run serverside, yes?

[bright fog]

Didn't I write something on the Networking page about that ?

Basically you have commands to check isClient() isServer() etc

These return both false if SP

So at the start of your file, you can check for these and return instantly if they aren't meant to run for one or the other

[civic galleon]

Ok so I believe I have tried this and am getting a strange issue, or am misunderstand further

I have print() as a lazy debug. When I do not filter out isClient() or isServer() The script runs, printing whatever into the server-console. The player's stats seem to change on my client, but then snap back to old stats.

When I turn on the filtering out clients, I no longer get the char stat updates on my client (expected) but also no longer have anything printing to console.

[quasi kernel]

If you're using host, to check server output you can check coop-console

[civic galleon]

its a dedi

[quasi kernel]

Ah.

[civic galleon]

I dont understand how if isClient() then return end is stopping both logs printing to the server AND the pseudo-updates on my client

So then, what makes the top code "run on the client" and the bottom code "run on the server"

it is not .lua file placement in /Client or /Server apparently

[haughty bridge]

are you using AI

[civic galleon]

no

[haughty bridge]

Liar

The color is identical

Except backdrop

But PC looks like that color

[civic galleon]

lmfao

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Networking

go look at this page

[wet sandal]

Can we not AI witch hunt?

[haughty bridge]

God damn it

I stand corrected

My bad gang

[civic galleon]

off syntax color theme jesus

[haughty bridge]

It looks a lot like AI

[bronze yoke]

the top code runs on both because the file runs on both
the lower code only runs on the server because that event is only triggered on the server

[haughty bridge]

Yeah I unfortunately have to deal a lot with ai code

[bronze yoke]

if it's in the client folder, it is only loaded by the client

the server folder does not have any similar behaviour

[civic galleon]

thank you

[haughty bridge]

@civic galleon my bad gang 😭

The comments and style seemed like some chat gpt would write 😭

[winter bolt]

because its example code 💀

[small osprey]

Uh! That diagnostic window is that inbuild in Zomboid?

[wet sandal]

Yes!
Its bound to K
You might need to launch the game with the -debug flag as well. Not certain.

I can't remember the last time I played zomboid without -debug

[small osprey]

that works like a charm. What is LPS and UPS?

UI is the UI-framerate I guess?

[bright fog]

This isn't AI

[bright fog]

I see the confusion but basically you have to consider the code being shown here are running either client or server side because you controlled where you trigger those

[bright fog]

Curious what you think looks like AI in that snippet 😅

[bright fog]

That's not what that code shows tho

The CLIENT SIDE thing is for actual client side
While the SERVER SIDE is for actual server side

[haughty bridge]

AI tends to write like documentation

[bright fog]

That doesn't make that specific thing AI tho, also AI will always have caps at the start of their comments

And I'm not sure I've ever seen AI prompts have full caps comments like that

[bright fog]

Wait you got to be kidding me, I was right, I did write on that wiki page client and server only codes
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Networking#Client/Server_only_code

Did you miss that ?

[bronze yoke]

it is true that ai tends to write these kinds of comments, it's just the whole witch hunting over a tiny bit of code that was unnecessary

chat models like chatgpt have mostly only seen code in tutorials and stack overflow and stuff like that so its code comes out full of overly explanatory comments

[knotty saffron]

i was making a item mod on b42.13.1 and managed to make item be listed on admin spawner, but i can't actually spawn the item, when i click to add item admin chat just show the additem command explanation, anyone had that issue?

also there are any characters that shouldn't be in the item names? some of my items have symbols like ´" ( ' ~´

[bright fog]

I think that's fine as long as it doesn't break the definitions in files

Like " can possible cause issues since that technically closes the translation entry

[noble shell]

Hello, with B42.13 now packaged all TIS's code and dependencies inside of 1 jar file, if I want to make a java-side patch for users, do I now need to include the entire jar file with the patch, or is there a better way to do it...? Thank you!

[bright fog]

No

The Java files from previous paths can technically still be loaded

@willow tulip probably knows better than me the details tho

[noble shell]

so classes in ROOT/zombie will still be loaded and overwrite the ones in projectzomboid.jar?

[bright fog]

From what I understood yes

I believe there are also more sophisticated methods to load Java mods, or you can look into solutions like Leaf that haven't been put to general use in the modding community

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Leaf

[noble shell]

I just tested and it seems like it is the case. That's awesome for installing and uninstalling java-side patches!

thank you!

[willow tulip]

Yep

[willow tulip]

Yep, now we can just tell users to delete the whole zombie dir

and there is no confusion over what files are what.

also note, steam seems to be deleting my java files there when I went from b42.13 to B42.13.1

Dunno if thats going to continue to happen or what

[bronze yoke]

branch changes might be stricter

[willow tulip]

yea, But files not included in the vanilla games zombie dir where not deleted

so it might be due to the fact that previous versions exist with those files, that it will now always be deleting them

[bronze yoke]

really? i don't get how that works

maybe because the main branch still has those files

[willow tulip]

IMO, this feels like a good move: Zomboid updates will automatically remove java mods to keep em from bricking the new version

[willow tulip]

Yea. We'll have to see what happens in future updates

[bronze yoke]

agree, just surprised it does that based on how steam usually behaves

[noble shell]

yeah it could be that they want to make sure there's no lingering classes from previous versions that still uses multiple jar files and zombie dir structure, so they put a rule to wipe it

[willow tulip]

Yea, would also keep mods from bricking the game when the basegame updates

[noble shell]

I can potentially see it being annoying for users tho, but oh well

[silent zealot]

Quicker than I expected, but just as useful.

[hasty oxide]

Uhh hey guys, it's my first time making a mod. I made a patch for Visual Sounds for 42.13.
Let me know what I did wrong I guess lol
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3628725609

[wet sandal]

How do I get reuploads of my mod removed?

I don't care if people mod my mods with patches and such, but full reuploads that don't require the OG, no.

[silent zealot]

In B42.13 you can register a new trait with CharacterTrait.register("nep:onfire") and then define it in a script file, see it in character creation. Easy.

But how are you supposed to tell if a character has that trait in your lua code? I need to update

if player:HasTrait("onfire") then

All the vanilla examples are useless because they use enum values:

playerObj:hasTrait(CharacterTrait.HANDY)

and I can't find any hasTrait() equivalent that takes a string as an input, or any way to get something that hasTrait is happy with... so I can't figure out how to tell if the player has the trait nep:onfire

[bronze yoke]

CharacterTrait.register returns it

[silent zealot]

Ah, so you need to capture it to a global when you register it in you registries.lua file?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[silent zealot]

Thanks, annoying but I can work with that.

player:SetOnFire() no longer works. 😭

[willow tulip]

try player:HaltAndCatchFire() (Sorry, bad reference joke, ignore)

[silent zealot]

hahaha

I think this is where I need to learn how to manage client/server stuff.

[willow tulip]

Yea likely.

[silent zealot]

Seems that you can't just set yourself on fire anymnore, you have to ask the server to set you on fire.

All those players waiting for useful mods to update and here I am working on Start Game On Fire. 😛

[compact pendant]

Could someone who's dabbled in VHS modding get back to me? I got a couple questions

[silent zealot]

Either I'm doing something wrong or players don't catch fire anymore (at least not with SetOnFire(). The server bits triggers correctly, it just... does nothing.

...I had god mode on from earlier testing.

[silent zealot]

But! I also made my first client -> server mod thingy with sendClientCommand and Events.OnClientCommand, so that's good.

[wet sandal]

I look forward to being on fire

[calm depot]

So, now that MP is out, I'm looking to update my mods - does anyone have the cliff-notes of what significant changes have gone on in Lua - especially network code

[bright fog]

Pinned messages

[calm depot]

thanks.

Am I imagining it or was the Java bytecode previously in folders rather than a JAR

[bright fog]

Yes

It doesn't change much

[civic galleon]

I was literally trying to confirm it when you responded to other aspects of my comments

[civic galleon]

Here I had noticed without any filtering, print pushes to server-console.txt on the server, but disappears when I filter clients out at the top. This is why I wanted further confirmation

[bright fog]

I see

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mods#Commissions

[broken briar]

OKAY, i have a question

how i can change the audio for the sprinters?

bc im not a big fan of the audio for the sprinters..

i wish to replace the audio for the sprinters to tlou's runners

[near wind]

Anybody working on maps? For the new updates

[near wind]

I think I saw someone do that where they replaced it with cod zombie sprinters somewhere once

[broken briar]

i see

been tryna figure out on how to replace those sounds with these

bc i feel like tlou's runners' sounds are more realistic

and sound more realer

[raven epoch]

is the only way to move something manually setting position every tick?

[raven epoch]

ok i figured it out

kinda

[knotty stone]

That reminds me of my zombie corpse pushing try, just shove them to the neighbors ! xD
https://streamable.com/2tnawf

[raven epoch]

LOL

what did u use to apply physic push

[knotty stone]

dont rly remember, sry. was messing around with tile coords, and it was a mess lol

[raven epoch]

its fine ty anyway

i rlly hope there is an easier way cus i dont want to do addimpulse every tick just for a vehicle to go straight

[main pasture]

I don't know if there's a better way for cars, but maybe check out how the helicopter mods set the vehicle position every tick. It works pretty smoothly

[raven epoch]

ye but problem is

cars have

physics

imagine collision

[knotty stone]

you going to build automatic driving cars or what? ^^

[raven epoch]

ye we going to get teslas in zomboid

jk its for npcs driving

[main pasture]

I see. Physics that way are unrealible, but still work sometimes

[raven epoch]

im going to see if i can fake input with isoplayer

[knotty stone]

i remember someone trying something months ago and it looked decent

[mellow frigate]

Did you get clues on how to analyse this ? I get the same thing when spawning modded vehicles with exotic containers in MP.

[main pasture]

Do any of the npc mods implement npcs driving cars?

[knotty stone]

week one does right?

[raven epoch]

week one does?

idk im asking

i never saw

[main pasture]

What are you using for your npcs btw?

[raven epoch]

military faction

did u see

gimme a sec

[main pasture]

I mean some framework or custom implementation of npcs?

[raven epoch]

a

oh

im just using isoplayer

so just zomboid modding

[main pasture]

Ok

[raven epoch]

no idea how it will go tho

isoplayer might goof up

since its meant for player

[knotty stone]

https://youtu.be/JPr6jeW-P2I?t=605
10minutes 10 seconds you see a taxi driving

[raven epoch]

aa ur right

wonder how he did it

[shy minnow]

Can someone help me with the vehicle shadow texture ? Like the image in the mechanic menu, how I add it ?

[knotty stone]

#modeling message

[neat walrus]

are body locations exclusivity transitive?

[tranquil kindle]

What does that even mean?

[neat walrus]

location 1 is exclusive with location 2 and
location 2 is exclusive with location 3 therefore
location 1 is exclusive with location 3

[bronze yoke]

no

[neat walrus]

ty

[grizzled fable]

Does anyone have any information on how to define forageable items in version 42.13? ty

[knotty stone]

ProjectZomboid\media\lua\shared\Foraging\Categories isnt it all there?

[noble shell]

I did my research on IsoPlayer and made a mod with it. B42 is currently limiting rendering IsoPlayer objects if it isn't in your control.

So you might wanna use something else, if you dont need to control the character

[wraith flame]

anyone running a dedicated setup on unstable with ubuntu? server live and it pings but hanging on steam auth, tried jsut about everything

used steamcmd anonymously to setup and have all the dependencies

[pearl prism]

For me, the problem was with the items (vehicle parts) that were configured incorrectly for the B42.13.

I believe it was causing some kind of cascading error.

It's also worth taking a look at your "VehicleDistributions" file, which controls the spawning of items in vehicle containers.

[mellow frigate]

can you point me to the corrected mod if you uploaded it to the workshop ? and indicate me the corrected parts names ? 😄 please 🙂

[pearl prism]

I use a translator and my text ended up a bit confusing. I mean the item itself, which, when installed, becomes a part of the vehicle, for example a ‘Custom car seat’ item.

If you want, you can message me privately.

[pearl prism]

👆

[mellow frigate]

Item definition (item visible in debug ItemList): ```
module ATA2
{
imports
{
Base
}

item ATA2ItemContainer
{
    DisplayCategory = Tuning,
    Weight    =    1.0,
    ItemType = base:normal,
    Icon = media/ui/Container_Counter,
    MaxCapacity = 35,
    ConditionAffectsCapacity = false,
    ConditionMax = 100,
    MechanicsItem = TRUE,
}

}Item registry:lua
ATAItems = ATAItems or {}
ATAItems.ATA2ItemContainer = ItemType.register("ATA2:ATA2ItemContainer")
Part definition:
module Base
{
template vehicle ATA2InteractiveTrunk
{
/much stuff in there/
part ATA2InteractiveTrunkRoofRack
{

    }

/much stuff in there/
part ATA2InteractiveTrunk*
{
area = TruckBed,
category = nodisplay,
itemType = ATA2.ATA2ItemContainer,
specificItem = false,
mechanicRequireKey = false,
container
{
conditionAffectsCapacity = true,
test = ATATuning2.ContainerAccess.Tuning,
}
table install
{
test = ATATuning2.InstallTest.Tuning,
complete = ATATuning2.InstallComplete.Tuning,
}
table uninstall
{
test = ATATuning2.UninstallTest.Tuning,
complete = ATATuning2.UninstallComplete.Tuning,
}
lua
{
create = ATATuning2.Create.Tuning,
init = ATATuning2.Init.Tuning,
}
}
}
}
Error log:LOG : General f:211723, t:1766437483430> ItemPickInfo -> cannot get ID for container: ATA2InteractiveTrunkRoofRack``` @pearl prism

[pearl prism]

Do you have the Lua file containing "VehicleDistributions"?
\42.13\media\lua\Server\Items

[pearl prism]

I believe the "VehicleType = " is also missing in your item. But that's just a guess.

[mellow frigate]

that specific item is not referenced in the Lua file containing items distribution. (I.E. vehicle's Items distribution). do you want some Vehicle distribution too ?

[pearl prism]

Wait, I'll take a look through my files to see if I can find anything useful for you.

[mellow frigate]

setting the VehicleType removed the log.

[pearl prism]

Nice, so it was a error inconfiguration of the item after all.

[mellow frigate]

Probably. I'm not confident, because this is part of a template that is supposed to be applied to any vehicle. I'm not sure if I'm breaking some compatibility by setting that VehicleType parameter.

[small iron]

can someone help?

[mellow frigate]

help request + log without comment, I suppose you are looking for mod_support channel (if modded) or pz_techsupport (if vanilla).

[noble gazelle]

hi! where can i find the male and female playermodel textures for blender? i want to make some cloathing mods

[knotty stone]

you are using a mod that uses the new 42.13 item/recipe format and you are on 42.12.3 so it not working
Tag has no items: base:pliers. line: item 1 tags[base:pliers;base:visegrips] mode:keep and good night lol

[silent zealot]

Look in the pinned messages in #modeling

I think that has links to the models and helpful templates/info

[bronze yoke]

@primal schooner you can work around the limitations of mutual exclusivity with lua like this

obviously this is still an oversight and you shouldn't have to do this so it doesn't take away from your request but i thought i'd make sure you knew anyway

[primal schooner]

thank you! Yes, i don't really like the idea of overwriting a bunch of entries, it is a nightmare in a long run

[pastel wolf]

tiiiime to figure out how the hell I can update my mod to 42.13

[vivid zinc]

Anyone know if it's fine to distribute modified Java class files along with a mod? I know the user would have to do manual steps to actually complete the installation, but I'm wondering if it's possible to distribute server fixes I'm working on for 42.13.1 along with various lua fixes

[bronze yoke]

yes

[vivid zinc]

Sweet, ty!

[silent zealot]

I've done it (better headlights Java mod pre 42.9), it's a hassle but you can do it. Would be a bit better in 42.13 now mod files aren't being mixed in with normal files.

Better Vehicle Physics is the biggest example I know of that does it, there are also mods that affect the view cone/rendering that replace java files.

Be aware you will probably need to redo your java mod with every single update of the game. And if it's multiplayer good luck getting all the players to do the right thing.

[willow tulip]

Yes, just be ready for a lot of user complaints. but ignore em. 😛 I get about 1/2 as many downloads on my java mod as the lua mod that highly recommends using it for full functionality (but not 100% required) so you might wanna split the two if you can.

[willow tulip]

cough not realistic car physics? Sadness. 😛

[knotty stone]

😂

[silent zealot]

hahahaha - to be fair I haven't played Zomboid as a player since before that mod came out.

[vivid zinc]

super appreciate the advice! ❤️ hopefully these specific mods won't need to exist for more than one version, i'd be sad if we got another hotfix that didn't fix bugs that i had fixed haha

[silent zealot]

We will!

Some bugs will get fixed, some will exist forever.

[vivid zinc]

fair lol

[vivid zinc]

will the game just load class files from the zombie folder, overriding stuff in the jar? and users don't actually have to edit stuff in the jar manually?

[silent zealot]

Magazines no longer increase in weight when you put bullets in, so I guess I should remodel this for the 97 round magazine.

[vivid zinc]

and if so would it just be steamapps\common\Project Zomboid Dedicated Server\zombie for server?

Better Vehicle Physics suggests that you can copy their zombie folder to Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\zombie but theirs is only client and i can't find docs about this

edit: looks like it's actually steamapps\common\Project Zomboid Dedicated Server\java\zombie for server

[civic galleon]

On the Networking page I see the note The onlineID is not persistent so it cannot be used for identification of players or zombies after loading or unloading them. For zombies, see PersistentOutfitID.. Is this meaning that this ID is not good for long-term player tracking (such as across multiple logins)? I am looking to keep track of a players stats for a small amount of time (while they sleep), and it must be outside of calling the players stats repeatedly (I am replacing vanilla math in a brute force way). I was intending on doing this with a simple table {playerID = {fatigue = 0.11, endurance = 0.42}, playerID2 = {fatigue = 0.11, endurance = 0.42}, )

[bright fog]

Yes

[bright fog]

Yes, however I believe it was @bronze yoke that mentioned the online ID possibly being persistent ? So that note needs to be verified I think

[bright fog]

@willow tulip

[willow tulip]

People who keep installing carcontroller.java mods into the server. shrugs

[willow tulip]

Yes.

[vivid zinc]

Thank you both!

[civic galleon]

I appreciate the time you've taken in helping me these past few days. Just to clarify for my own sake: Do you mean IDs being persistent as "across multiple session from a specific login"? I only need to track for a few minutes, but I worry about a player's onlineID shifting while they are connected in that time.

[bright fog]

Yes between sessions

The online ID won't change during play

It'd be a bit catastrophic lol

[civic galleon]

Awesome and thank you!

[bronze yoke]

it's not persistent

[silent zealot]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3629518507 Finally finished this off. Figured it was a good time to do it while half the gun mods are not working.

[sonic needle]

just havent released mine xD

[silent zealot]

Sorry, I can't hear you over the really loud ringing noise in my ears from test firing this thing.

[sonic needle]

Anyone got a working B42.13 clothing using a custom bodylocation yet?

[sonic needle]

tinnitus never sleeps

[tranquil kindle]

Got a few, mostly outfits and my random clothing that adds a few(but this one got bug/error report so I need to check it out). Once I'm home I'll send you ones with a few of custom locations, because I don't remember which one worked the best for it if you set exclusive locations

[sonic needle]

i tried testing custom stuff, added registries etc, just crashes the game

so yeah im stumped.

[tranquil kindle]

It kinda feels like an unnecessary addition in my (not much worth) opinion

The registries

[sonic needle]

100% yep. i can understand why? but nothing but maybe ammo or item keys work atm. from testing

[frank elbow]

Stuff not working/not being as moddable in unstable is fine by me, as long as it's fixed by stable

[tranquil kindle]

They work, it's just that it feels like additional step on top of fileguid tables and guids itself that (according to Albion) aren't even used.

[sonic needle]

no dice so far. no matter what i used

local bodylocations = {
    "HolsterDeltaTest",
    "Tail"
}

ChimeraRegistries = {}
ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations = {}

for i = 1, #bodylocations do
    ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations[i] = ItemBodyLocation.register("Base:" .. bodylocations[i])
end

    item FR_Operator_HolsterDeltaTest
    {
        DisplayCategory = Accessory,
        ItemType = base:clothing,
        Weight = 0.2,
        DisplayName = [Chimera] Delta [Molle] Holster [TEST],
        Icon = FR_HOLSTER_MAIN,
        AttachmentsProvided = HolsterMountDeltaL,
        BodyLocation = Base:HolsterDeltaTest,
        ClothingItem = Operator_Delta_Molle_Holster_L,
        WorldStaticModel = HolsterSingle_Ground,
        Tags = base:firearmloot,
        Researchablerecipes = SewHolster;SewHolsterDouble,
    }

Tried both Base, CHIMERA etc, nothing works. Full game resets after each save. etc

all versions of the ID changed with each test. so CHIMERA: in registeries.lua had the Module CHIMERA etc etc.

[tranquil kindle]

Don't register them as "Base"

[sonic needle]

i tried other versions alrady

local bodylocations = {
    "HolsterDeltaTest",
    "Tail"
}

ChimeraRegistries = {}
ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations = {}

for i = 1, #bodylocations do
    ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations[i] = ItemBodyLocation.register("Chimera:" .. bodylocations[i])
end

local bodylocations = {
    "HolsterDeltaTest",
    "Tail"
}

ChimeraRegistries = {}
ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations = {}

for i = 1, #bodylocations do
    ChimeraRegistries.BodyLocations[i] = ItemBodyLocation.register("CHIMERA:" .. bodylocations[i])
end

both fail.

yes its matched everywhere when changed

[tranquil kindle]

Do you still have body location in shared>NPC?

It is also required

Bit different but still needed

[sonic needle]

you are joking

[tranquil kindle]

No

[sonic needle]

Ugh.

[tranquil kindle]

You need both

But now it's bit different so check it out

[sonic needle]

yeah lack of context on all the changes ( yes even with the stuff they gave. ) hasnt reflected the info very well

ah the registries thingy reflects to your addon.

yeah it works. such a complex change.

[vivid zinc]

is it possible to remove ContextMenuConfig from a vanilla entity using lua? seems i can't just override the entity in script

[bright fog]

What's that ?

[vivid zinc]

the vanilla composter has some ContextMenuConfig like this:

module Base
{
    entity Composter
    {
        component UiConfig
        {
            xuiSkin = default,
            entityStyle = ES_Composter,
            uiEnabled = false,
        }
        component ContextMenuConfig
        {
            contextEntry
            {
                menu = GetCompost,
                customSubmenu = ContextMenuCode.CompostInteraction,
            }
        }
...

this just indiscriminately adds a "Get Compost" option to composters on the root of the context menu that doesn't work properly (does not get disabled when conditions aren't met, does not show the % of compost). there is already other code that adds a proper "Get Compost" option under the Farming menu, so I wanted to mod this one out if possible

[bright fog]

It calls a Lua function no ?

[vivid zinc]

yeah it calls a lua function but it seems like the context option already exists at that point

[bright fog]

You want to delete the context menu ?

[vivid zinc]

i want that specific "Get Compost" option to be gone, yeah

[bright fog]

Then hook to that Lua function to stop the option from being added

[vivid zinc]

that function doesn't add it, i'll keep looking around tho, ty

[bright fog]

That function has access to the menu tho ?

So you can find that option and remove it

[vivid zinc]

ah i see, will try that, thanks again! edit: worked 💪

[vivid zinc]

even better than straight up removing now, player hint for bug workaround 😄

[unique harbor]

How can I debug a function like ISInventoryPage:dropItemsInContainer?

I have a nested container mod which currently doesn't seem to work correctly only in multiplayer.
When I move a item into a nested container I get a infinite action bar.

In this case I tried to move the box of nails into the green backpack.
(Server hosted via main menu)

[bright fog]

Sounds good !

[earnest mulch]

Hello again,

I'm having issues with my modded items that have “ReplaceOnCooked,” but only in Multiplayer.

For some reason, when I try to cook them, they break, and you can't do anything with them. Its name breaks and becomes Base.CheeseStart (Fresh, Uncooked), but when you close and restart the server again, the “ReplaceOnCooked” works.

Is “ReplaceOnCooked” broken in MP, or do I have an error in the script?

item CheeseStart
    {
        DisplayCategory = Food,
        Weight = 1.5,
        ItemType = base:food,
        Icon = MilkStarter,
        CookingSound = BoilingFood,
        EatType = Pot,
        PourType = Pot,
        IsCookable = true,
        MinutesToCook = 10,
        MinutesToBurn = 100,
        DaysFresh = 2,
        DaysTotallyRotten = 4,
        HungerChange = -20,
        ThirstChange = -20,
        UnhappyChange = 80,
        Calories = 1100.0,
        Carbohydrates = 25.0,
        Lipids = 10.5,
        Proteins = 24.0,
        CustomEatSound = EatingSoup,
        StaticModel = PotMilkTPP,
        WorldStaticModel = PotMilkTPP,
        Tags = HasMetal,
        ReplaceOnUse = Base.Pot,
        ReplaceOnCooked = Base.Sourmilk,
    }

[shy minnow]

Can someone help me with a car mod ? How I add custom parts to the car ? Like for exemple, in the mechanic menu there a new part uninstalled called roofrack and I want to install it

[knotty stone]

        {
            mechanicArea = Back,
            area = Roofrack, /*Create new area or use already existing */
            category = bodywork,
            ItemType = Base.MetalPipe, /* Item for the car part slot */
            durability = 5,
            container
            {
        capacity = 100,
                conditionAffectsCapacity = false,
                test = Vehicles.ContainerAccess.TruckBed,
            }
            table install
            {
                items
                {
                    1
                    {
                        tags = Screwdriver,
                        count = 1,
                        keep = true,
                        equip = primary,
                    }
                }
                time = 100,
                professions = ,
                skills = ,
                traits = ,
                recipes = ,
                test = Vehicles.InstallTest.Default,
                door = EngineDoor,
            }
            table uninstall
            {
                items
                {
                    1
                    {
                        tags = Screwdriver,
                        count = 1,
                        keep = true,
                        equip = primary,
                    }
                }
                time = 100,
                test = Vehicles.UninstallTest.Default,
            }
        }    
        }```

[compact warren]

I haven't tried modding PZ in a while, does anyone have any documentation/guides on the game api
last i checked i wasn't able to find much
im talking guides on changing the game's code, not making custom weapons,clothing and vehicles
the mod migration guide for b42 multiplayer seemed to imply they were going to create more documentation for it

[knotty stone]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/index.html

[compact warren]

anyone knows what script makes it so when a piece of furniture is next to a window, entities (by that i mean players and zombies) pass through it?

[small osprey]

I'd guess something engine-internal.

[compact warren]

is there anyway to access that

[shy minnow]

Thanks I figured out, one more thing, how I do the mask and what is the utility of the mask, his main purpose ?

Do I need to do the mask to get the light overlay working ?

[lusty kindle]

I think it should be Contents

[fathom forum]

is it stable enough to make mods for it yet
or should i keep waiting

[bright fog]

Always has been stable enough to mod

[worthy wharf]

how to call a vanilla function?
for example smoke and it should auto handle:

• Reduce stress
• Play animation
• check if lighter is available

[silent zealot]

What's the best way to setup multiplayer for testing/working on mods? If using the "host" button on the main menu and running a second client as the client good enough, or do I need to actually set up a dedicated server to test properly?

[silent zealot]

Do you mean "how do I add a smoke option to the context menu for a custom item"?

[worthy wharf]

no, just how to trigger the context options. bcoz the Use() does not trigger animations etc

is there any difference between host and dedicated for multiplayer?

i will try this...

[silent zealot]

smoking is a timed action. From memory, it's the "eat" action but when done to a cigarette you smoke it instead.

[worthy wharf]

but seems very complicated to run a timed action for something simple
just click the action that has all the code behind

what type of multiplayer test do you want to do ?

[silent zealot]

hahahhahaha. the code is in ISEatFoodAction

And probably some bits in java too, and animation conditionals

ISInventoryPaneContextMenu is where it decides what goes in the context menu and which timed action gets started

[bronze yoke]

hosted is enough

[silent zealot]

Just basic functionality testing at first - do my mods work in multiplayer or not?

Then for the ones with issues I'll want to fix them and retest.

So everything from "code that folds the survival rifle when you put it on your back" to "changing the light properties of car headlights" to "modify creation function for porn magazines"

[silent zealot]

Thanks, I'll give that a go today or tomorrow... I figure I should get things working in single player first but I'm steadily getting through the mod list.

[worthy wharf]

interesting, if u need help to setup the steamcmd i can help

[icy night]

Can we still spawn vehicle in debug in the last update?

the context menu option isnt there for me. Maybe they moved it

[mellow frigate]

it is available in main > vehicle spawn in SP and both there and directly in vechicle spawn in MP

[vast pier]

MOD: SaltyMaskjava.lang.RuntimeException: expected argument of type ItemBodyLocation, got String
What changed about body location while I was gone ?

local bodyLocation = BodyLocation.new(group, "SaltyMask")```

Worked a few months ago

[winter bolt]

you cant use a string anymore you have to make registry for the name
https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Archive.Project-Zomboid-Modding/blob/main/TIS guides/B42 unstable MP/Migration Guide.pdf

you also cant insert bodylocations manually anymore you have to use the getorcreatelocation stuff

[scenic tusk]

does anyone know where the recipe for firing clay objects is found, i assumed it would be in the recipes_pottery but i was not able to find it in there, nor can i find the recipes to make clay bowls/plates and such

[scenic tusk]

nevermind i have found it

[silent zealot]

I feel like I shouldn't need to use reflection to access private fields just to add a new body location in a specific order, but the only other way I can see to do it is to completely wipe out all body locations and then recreate them one-by-one with mine getting placed in the correct place.

[silent zealot]

What changed about body location while I was gone ?

Approximately everything.

[scenic tusk]

another question about recipes does anyone know where masonry recipes are stored

ive found them theyre buried in the blacksmithing recipes

[silent zealot]

For reference, here is how I added new BodyLocations at a specific place (in this case so they show up on top of underwear but under pants)

This was needed because BodyLocationGroup:getAllLocations() now returns a Collections.unmodifiableList instead of an ArrayList you can manipulate.

[bronze yoke]

you don't have to anymore

[silent zealot]

lol

after all my effort making that work lol

[bronze yoke]

i haven't updated the javadocs but 42.13.1 added a method to do this

[silent zealot]

What is the trick?

hahahaha

I couldn't see anything obvious in the java

(I would have expected a new method to be in BodyLocationGroup.java since that's where getOrCreateLocation() lives)

[bronze yoke]

i haven't even gotten around to decompiling this build so i'm just repeating what i've heard

i don't rebuild anything for hotfixes, they don't usually have any significant api changes

[silent zealot]

"Fixed the order of clothing layers for mod creators" is in the patch notes. Zero details beyond that though.

[winter bolt]

they added a function to move them

[winter bolt]

it works ive been using it in my mod

[scenic tusk]

pretty basic question but do mods still need a seperate lua script to make recipes work, im watching a tutorial from about 3 years ago and the structure for items/recipes is completely different so i wasnt sure if thats still needed

im making my first mod that is literally just two recipes no new items

[silent zealot]

You don't need a lua script for every recipe, but you can add a lua script(s) to do more complicated things.

[bronze yoke]

they've never *needed* lua for basic recipes but the more complex things you want to do the more likely you'll need some

the new recipe system covers a lot of the basic cases much better than the old one did

[silent zealot]

You definitely want to look at the vanilla recipes in 42.13, since every tutorial older than a week is outdated now.

[scenic tusk]

okay, if i have one recipe that needs to be done in the kiln and another that can be done without do i need to separate the files or can i have both in one text file

[scenic tusk]

yes ive been referencing most of what im doing from the vanilla recipes and just cross referencing things

also if you guys know is there a base tag for all hammers

[silent zealot]

There is tag base:hammer

[scenic tusk]

yes thank you i also just discovered the tags page in the wiki which also helps a lot

[scenic tusk]

what ied coloring are you using because im using notepad++ and it would be nice is have some things colorized

ide

[silent zealot]

It seems like every item gets a tag, but then some items (like "hammer") get used as a "this is a type of <item>" tag

VS Code.

[scenic tusk]

it just colors it in a basic text file?

[silent zealot]

I highly recommend getting a proper IDE; having your LUA typos picked up as you make them saves so much hassle.

The umbrella addon adds Zomboid specific stuff.

[scenic tusk]

yea i use visual studio when im in unity but figured for this notepad would suffice but thank you ill look into that

[silent zealot]

Also, keep a second VSCode open to the media folder and you local decompiled Zomboid... makes it very easy to search for things.

notepad++ will work, but VS Code + Umbrella will work better.

[scenic tusk]

is the AnySurfaceCraft tag for recipes that need a surface to craft

im guessing so but just want to make sure

[jolly oar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[scenic tusk]

so ive structured everything correct based on the example on the wiki, i have the mod loaded and the setup inside of zomboid looks good, icons, posters, desc, etc. However inside the game none of my recipes are listed could anyone help me out, do i need to do something to get the recipes to be loaded into the game besides have them in my media folder

this is the file itself

this is the code

im going to try putting it into a scripts folder based off of examples im looking at but if thats not the problem someone let me know

whatever ive done has made the game not load/launch if i have the mod enabled

[knotty stone]

script files go in the scripts folder, not media

[scenic tusk]

for some odd reason when i put the script in scripts the game crashes on startup

[knotty stone]

thats good

then you know its loading it 😉

[scenic tusk]

good point

so does it have something to do with the code in the script

or is there a place i can find crash logs

[knotty stone]

C:\Users\user\Zomboid\console.txt

[scenic tusk]

thank you ill report back if i figure it out

the only two instances of my mod inside the logs dont seem to be related to errors

aha

[knotty stone]

just post the whole console file

[scenic tusk]

it has appeared to me that naming my script the same as the base recipe script in the game is not the best idea

[knotty stone]

thats for sure

[scenic tusk]

oh spoke to soon its still crashing

ill post the console file one moment

[knotty stone]

yea it doesnt like your fluid line

[scenic tusk]

is it because its at the top of is it a spelling error

what line does it read it in

[knotty stone]

it think it should be under the container its supposed to pull the fluid from

in vanilla i think pizza is using some kind of universal approach

            -fluid 0.5 categories[Water] mode:mixture,
        }```

[scenic tusk]

yea i put the fluid line under the items and the game loaded

thank you

mod seems to be working, im going to need to go back through the code to figure out what the item for the salt lick is called as it wasnt found in the script but ill figure it out

thank you brodie

[scenic tusk]

i was wrong i did it right the salt lick just does not have an inventory icon but i have succesfully made my first mod

[silent zealot]

A mod that lets you lick salt?

With lemon and tequila?

[bright fog]

Hell yea

[mellow frigate]

Hello lua experts, when I define lua lcl.io_base = __classmetatables[IsoObject.class].__index lcl.io_addToWorld = lcl.io_base.addToWorld if I use ```lua
lcl.io_addToWorld(doorObject)--doorObject is of type IsoDoor, child class of IsoObject

[frank elbow]

My understanding is that it should call the method on IsoObject

[noble shell]

Is there a way to separate version 42 Unstable code and 42.13.1 code within the same mod?

[mellow frigate]

currently 42 unstable is 42.13.1

[noble shell]

yes, but I am a bit concerned when unstable diverges from 42.13.1

[frank elbow]

Core has getGameVersion but I don't believe it has a method to easily get the patch number (unless I'm misremembering). Either way, you could get the GameVersion and parse the string to determine that

[mellow frigate]

My procedure is more or less: the first time I make a mod B42+, I put everything in common and set the require in mod.info to current version. then when a new version requires change (lets say B42.99), I create a '42.99' folder with all files that diverge from common.

[frank elbow]

I don't believe the version folders take the patch number into account, from when I skimmed that code. I may be wrong though, since I didn't check it thoroughly

Not sure exactly what the behavior would be for multiple matches without looking, but my understanding was that it just looks for major.minor (ignoring anything after that in the folder name) & the same for major

(I say that because they mentioned 42.13.1 specifically)

[noble shell]

I have been reusing 42.0 for each update, but searching through workshop/content, it seems like other mods are doing 42.<minor_version>

might be worth trying out once unstable diverges

[bright fog]

No need for that

[bright fog]

Yes see the Mod structure wiki page on the versioning folder

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure#Common_and_versioning_folders

[frank elbow]

For the patch version? Pretty sure the version folder doesn't care about that, but like I said this is from memory of skimming the code

I'll have to double check when I'm home

[bright fog]

Versioning applies to all version types

Major minor hotfix

[frank elbow]

I'll check when I'm home, that's not what I saw 🤷🏽

It looked like it just ignored stuff after the major.minor

[bright fog]

I believe that was a recent discussion around here and the conclusion was it does check hotfix too

Maybe I'm missremembering too

[frank elbow]

I'd point you to the exact relevant method if I could remember that, but unfortunately my memory isn't specific enough lol—if you wanted to check though I imagine it'd be as easy as seeing where the version dir field is set on ChooseGameInfo.Mod

[magic nexus]

While seated in the car, panning the camera causes the player to stand up inside the vehicle. Any idea what causes this?

[frank elbow]

If you're trying to determine whether this is an issue caused by a mod that you're not developing, you're looking for #mod_support

[magic nexus]

This is my own vehicle mod.

[frank elbow]

In that case, more context is necessary

[scenic tusk]

What minor version was the structure for recipes and items changed?

[dark salmon]

Hi, I'm new to modding on PZ and I have a problem.
The game crashes on startup and in console.txt, it says that the cause is my recipes.txt. I would like to know what I did wrong.

recipes.txt:

module NLK {
    imports{
        Base
    }

    craftRecipe RollSativaJoint_Debug
    {
        timedAction = Making,
        time = 60,
        Tags = InHandCraft,
        category = ZazaMod,
        inputs
        {
            item 1 nlk.SativaBud_Debug,         
            item 1 tags[base:rollingpaper],
        }
        outputs
        {
            item 1 nlk.SativaJoint_Debug,      
        }
    }
}

[fleet bridge]

Is your module NLK or nlk?

[bright fog]

I can't check rn anyway

[frank elbow]

I took the thumbs up on your message from Tchernobill as their saying you're correct, but I'll still check later anyhow for my own sanity

[shy mantle]

why so many lol

[bright fog]

Oh I didn't realize it wasn't yours lol

[bright fog]

Spaghetti

[dark salmon]

NLK i tried with nlk and NLK but the problem is the same

[shy mantle]

I literally don't know which to use, at first I was just using isSolid and setSolidFloor, but now I look at my options and...

[fleet bridge]

Iirc recipes that aren't base modules currently do not work

It's been reported

[bright fog]

Check the decompile of the game to know which does what

[dark salmon]

So i can not create my own recipes?

[quasi kernel]

You can make recipes, just not under anything but Base if I'm understanding correctly.

Shouldn't really change much though

[dark salmon]

Oh okay, so i need to wait the patch for creating without Base

Because i wanted to create custom recipes with custom items that i've made

[quasi kernel]

You can still do that, just not under a different module

You could just make the recipes under base until they fix it lol

[dark salmon]

Oh okay i just have to rename my module by Base and it will works if i understand

[frank elbow]

It only checks the major & minor versions (and might have a logic error?)

Summary of logic used to determine mods' version folders (see getModVersionFile & getGameVersionIntFromName in ZomboidFileSystem). I've combined the logic of two methods to get the point across more easily (and because I am lazy). For each directory in the base mod directory:

1. Set gameVersion to major * 1000 + minor, where major and minor are as defined in GameVersion (e.g., 42.13.1 → 42 * 1000 + 13 → 42013). Set modVersionInt to 42000.
2. If the mod folder does not contain the . character, try converting it to an integer directly, set to 0 on failure to parse (major). Set folderVersion to major * 1000 and skip to step 6.
3. Match the folder name against the regex ([0-9]+)\.([0-9]+)(.*).
4. If there's a match, convert the first match group (major) and the second match group (minor) to integers (the third match group is ignored). If major is >= 42 and minor is in [0, 999], set folderVersion to major * 1000 + minor.
5. If there's no match, set folderVersion to null.
6. If folderVersion is greater or equal to modVersionInt and less than or equal togameVersion, set versionFolder to the mod folder and set modVersionInt to folderVersion. If there's another subdirectory to check, return to step 2 for the next subdirectory.
7. Return versionFolder.

I say "might have a logic error" because this uses newDirectoryStream to iterate the directories; DirectoryStreams do not have a single defined iteration order, so if there are multiple matches—like 42.13 and 42.13.1—the selection seems like undefined behavior (i.e., it'd just be whatever the last match is). Of course, it'd be consistent, so probably not a huge problem, but nonetheless odd. I could see this causing issues down the line if the ordering is ASCII-based. I'd expect it to check every folder & use the best match edit: this is handled, my mistake

(cc @mellow frigate)

[bright fog]

Interesting

[bright fog]

I'll add that to the mod structure page

[frank elbow]

Oh wait, actually it'll be the last match—just noticed I misread where a return is

Same potential logic error anyhow, but the other way, they handle the logic error upon a closer read, so only insight is that patch version is ignored. Updated the explanation to reflect that

[sour wave]

Getting somewhere.

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure#Common_and_versioning_folders

Updated it

[frank elbow]

I thought about it some more & it seems a logic error that's slightly different than what I thought does exist, but that message is a contender for my most edited message

So, in brief: curious, given that logic, how it selects multiple matches (like 42.13 and 42.13.1) & my gut says ASCII ordering of whichever is seen last

[raven epoch]

bored

add what to mod

[frank elbow]

Instant death if someone reads HottieZ

[raven epoch]

lol