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fathom knot
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jk

hexed burrow
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๐Ÿคฃ

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bro ty so much

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u fixed the cars

fathom knot
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wow

hexed burrow
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before the cars would have wheels floating

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and the shadow of the car was miles away

fathom knot
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i fixed something that i didnt event know was broken

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lol

hexed burrow
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alot of broken shit tbh

fathom knot
hexed burrow
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its fixed

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thank so u much

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i can now finally play

fathom knot
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so what did you disable?

hexed burrow
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the mods u told me

fathom knot
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mhm

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the npcs

hexed burrow
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im pretty sure it was the superb survivors

fathom knot
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yeah i dont think superb was updated for a long time is it?

hexed burrow
fathom knot
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have a good one bud

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plaayyyy

hexed burrow
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ty mate

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ugh

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it was fixed

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now it freezes for a second

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doesnt crash tho

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it was fine before i picked up items

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so i think it might be the weight mod for ammo

hexed burrow
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it was the infinite carry weight for what ever causes game to lag the fuck out

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beacause it somthing to do with garbage collection

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so when u right click game is loading all the things from backpack into the menu ect

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which causes lag

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ill see if theres a fix

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@fathom knot is it possible to add more ram?

fathom knot
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yeah

hexed burrow
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can u tell me how

fathom knot
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you can add a launch param

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-Xmx2G

hexed burrow
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ah ok

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i want 8gb ram so

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or is that too much

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other people have the issue aswell

distant oracle
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I would say that when using mods that radically increase container capacities, such as infinite carry weight, or Hydrocraft with some of it's large container weights, it wouldn't be surprising that they could cause issues for PZ, as the PZ engine is designed for a maximum container capacity of 50 for most everything aside from furniture tiles, which tops out at 100, and vanilla vehicle part capacities which also top out at 100.

woven cipher
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i give the game 56GB

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:|

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im not sure if it knows what to do with it, but it has all it wants

woven cipher
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it seems to work OK but i do imagine there's a cost to pay in performance

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it would be nice if there weren't.. xD

distant oracle
woven cipher
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what kind of upper limit is there anyway, then? so i know what to avoid if i don't want issues to arise on a dedicated server

distant oracle
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  • there will probably always be new issues that pop up when using overlarge capacities.
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The only guidance I can provide in that regard is that

 the PZ engine is designed for a maximum container capacity of 50 for most everything aside from furniture tiles, which tops out at 100, and vanilla vehicle part capacities which also top out at 100. 
woven cipher
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so it doesn't matter how many containers are in the chunk, just the capacity per

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?

distant oracle
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But also using bags that have a capacity of over 38 will get stuck in car seat.

distant oracle
woven cipher
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hm

woven cipher
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bags with as much as 71 capacity come out no problem, just open the window and drag to the ground from outside

distant oracle
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Yeah, okay, most people don't think of that ๐Ÿ˜„

woven cipher
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xD

distant oracle
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  • not all seats have outside access?
woven cipher
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yeah you have to learn these things if you play with mods

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that's true

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if you put it on one that doesn't you might kinda be screwed without admin assistance, or in SP without cheating/debug

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haha

distant oracle
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Pulling hydrocraft forklifts full of dogs out of car seats is a full-time job for admins on servers that use HC ๐Ÿ˜„

woven cipher
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wow haha

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imagine that irl..

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"my forklift full of dogs got stuck in the back seat again, summon the deity!"

distant oracle
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"How did you manage to do this a second time?!?!"

woven cipher
distant oracle
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Point being, the game engine wasn't designed for certain container capacities and there can be all sorts of problemos when people "overclock" their container capacities with mods that are outside of the "manufacturer's" intent?

woven cipher
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not sure how/why it's limited but i for sure get that

distant oracle
woven cipher
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you guys are probably more focused on making what you have work before you care

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yeah

maiden flare
woven cipher
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do you stop being invisible if you get in and out of another vehicle?

maiden flare
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i dont think so

woven cipher
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players becoming randomly invisible is a common occurrence in my experience

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but usually that fixes it, or a relog

maiden flare
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lemme try getting in a vanilla car

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relog fixes

woven cipher
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not sure why it happens, ofc

maiden flare
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theres no like reload models button

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function key

woven cipher
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yeah that's why getting in/out can help

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forces some things to happen

maiden flare
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getting in/out of bus dont fix but imma try a vanilla car

woven cipher
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yeah vanilla cars (and most cars) don't show the player model while ur inside

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so when u get out i would guess that it forces it to load

maiden flare
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curious why it happens with RV interior mod but idk

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maybe player model gets banished to alternate dimension desync style

woven cipher
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the way that works if im not mistaken is to tp you to a magical far away place

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yeah

woven cipher
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if the game doesnt register that they came back

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it would kinda be like desync

maiden flare
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model is fine entering the interior just exiting it dies

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funnily i can see other players and they can see me just client cant see itsself

woven cipher
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might be something the mod maker could do to trigger the model to reload if that's a constant issue

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not sure

maiden flare
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someone suggested authetic Z fixed it for them

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i tried that no change

woven cipher
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im a programmer but i haven't modded PZ (much) yet

maiden flare
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trying car theory

woven cipher
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nod

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gl

maiden flare
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no luck

woven cipher
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sorry shrugIDK

maiden flare
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nomad meta might be busted :/

woven cipher
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RV interiors has limited number of interiors due to the way the map works doesn't it? that must be kinda insane in mp esp with vehicle respawning

maiden flare
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this is jsut coop and no respawns

woven cipher
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ah ok

maiden flare
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but yeah

woven cipher
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that's not so bad then

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could also try changing ur clothing or what ur holding, could try leaving the chunk and coming back

maiden flare
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heres the map you can see the interior of bus on far right sorry about map it keeps deleting itself

woven cipher
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i imagine the former was already tried

maiden flare
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both have been

woven cipher
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yeah sorry im out of ideas for now then xD

maiden flare
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i wonder if sleeping would do anything

woven cipher
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oh i keep thinking it's for other players, yeah

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uh.. probably not

maiden flare
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nah

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nothing

woven cipher
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that just looks like a 2d overlay or shader

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or combo

maiden flare
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jsut a png lel

woven cipher
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so it probably wouldn't interrupt or restart the rendering

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you could change video settings

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that might do it

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lmao

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not a great solution but better than relog

maiden flare
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i was gonna toggle 3d models but i realize thats outdated

woven cipher
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won't toggle the player model ๐Ÿ˜‚

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only items have 2d anymore afaik

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(well, tiles too ofc)

maiden flare
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i dig the runescape graphics fr

woven cipher
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it leaves enough to the imagination that you can fill in details

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i think that's a nice place to be tbh

maiden flare
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ight game crashed (do not mess with my guy Enviorment reflections

woven cipher
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hah, yeah.. a few settings cause my client to crash too but im on linux so i kinda expect second-class treatment tbh :|

maiden flare
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same

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steam os as a matter of fact

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๐Ÿ˜‰

woven cipher
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im running it in wine actually because some mods use path separators that seem to fuck up the loading of some models/textures

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i prefer the native client for obvious reasons but that's a pain in the butt

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authenticz notably does this

maiden flare
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i wonder if running under proton would fix

woven cipher
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it works great under proton experimental

maiden flare
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prob not since friend has issue on windows 11

woven cipher
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that's what i use for client

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but cant guarantee it will fix this lol

maiden flare
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imm rock proton 7 lemme try this

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game is pretty cool on day 38 on my first real playthorugh although its coop so its easier

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mods are off the walls in quality

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(not Rv mod ๐Ÿ’€ )

woven cipher
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some are fantastic some are iffy, some are hackish but work fine.. yeah it's a spread

maiden flare
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mods r mods they all like that

woven cipher
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rimworld mod ecosystem is magic tho cuz u can modify any of the base game's code xd

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i came from there last

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spoiled..

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if PZ just had hooks to run your own java code ๐Ÿ˜”

maiden flare
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games with built in mod browses ๐Ÿ™

woven cipher
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im a C# person so i could pick up java in like two seconds, but LUA is another beast

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not super hard, but more different.

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and limitations

maiden flare
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lua is neat done about 30 mins of it trying to scam kids on roblox

woven cipher
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lol

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all the PZ mods are written in lua (TINY number use java but very rare)

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nothin on the workshop uses java afaik

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no way to distribute that

maiden flare
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zamn bro is still invis even with proton

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gottta find player refresh mod or something

woven cipher
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yeah i didn't really think that'd fix it

maiden flare
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it was long shot

woven cipher
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gl shrugEyeRollGirl

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i doubt u'll find something lol

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so specific

maiden flare
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fr

woven cipher
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the rv interior mod seemed too hacky for me to wanna try

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very cool, ofc

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but

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yeah

maiden flare
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works amazing besides this

woven cipher
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well i mostly do larger scale mp

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so it would be.. scary

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lol

maiden flare
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kinda op tho

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but nomad life is so cool

woven cipher
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the "usable furniture within trailer" works fine for me on that front

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without an actual interior

maiden flare
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tru

lapis edgeBOT
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maiden flare
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but decoration is next level

woven cipher
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im gonna go play some, i spent 3 hours troubleshooting stuff and could use the downtime

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heh

maiden flare
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gl

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dont get bittteeenn

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yeah if anyone knows how i can reload the player model in game pls @ me

cerulean crest
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thank you so much man, it really helped me a lot
i had no idea that it works like that

fathom knot
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np its how i do it at least for my self hosted testing

woven cipher
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in dedicated u have to specify which submods you want in mod ids, the mod itself being in workshop ids

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and then maps under map

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complex but same flexibility

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xD

hexed burrow
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or a mod can?

distant oracle
# hexed burrow ah is there anyway u can increase it?

To quote myself from upstream

"The save system was revised to accommodate more memory for chunks on account of this, but there's a limit to the accommodations we can make for mod stuff that is wildly out of balance with the intent of the engine."

"Point being, the game engine wasn't designed for certain container capacities and there can be all sorts of problemos when people "overclock" their container capacities with mods that are outside of the "manufacturer's" intent?"
hexed burrow
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oh

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so ure capped

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i see thanks for the help ill just go without using no weight mod

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was just trying it

distant oracle
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๐Ÿ‘

hexed burrow
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why is my game terminated when i try to launch server?

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I looked online and some people said its from hydrocraft mod, but i never had it installed

hexed burrow
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it was the stupidest thing ever. i unknowingly added a map that conflicted with another. all is fixed

novel nymph
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Glad you got it sorted eventually

wispy idol
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Quick question: are the pinned messages in this channel for dedicated servers? Or will they work with the non-dedicated as well?

spice hornet
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(Not the best place to ask, but since it might be a mod related issue...) Anybody know where occupation and skill presets are stored on drive? I need to delete them. I crash every time I attempt to load a preset and tbh, this has been happening for months. I uninstalled all mods and the game itself, verified game files, etc, nada. So, I'm hoping if I delete them all and make one more attempt, it should work. (Note: I know presets can work on the server I'm playing on since other players can make and use them.)

maiden flare
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status update on my rv mod problem
dev added it for debugging forgot to remove will be fixed in a patch

hexed burrow
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anyone got a pack of mods that dont bug out the hole game

hexed burrow
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what is causing all zombies to be wearing firefighters outfit and then randomly change after dying?

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it also happened in my vanilla MP server

torn basalt
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I want to modifiy the superb suvivor mod to change the appearance of my startup companion (wife/husband), appreciate if anyone can give me some advise. I tried to add wife:Get():getHumanVisual():setHairModel(Long) to SuperSurvivorUpdate.lua but not successful.

low heath
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Having issues with a certain cell resetting after a player dies in it, any1 know of any mods that could cause this ?

frank talon
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How to use the ladder mod? i made one and attach to the wall trying to get to second floor(made a hole on that floor) but cant climb at all

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the tile on second floor which the ladder attached to is clear to walk, is there anything I missed?

hexed burrow
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How to use the zombie vaccine/cure? There's a fixed version in the workshop. Is it incomplete or what?

modest flint
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does anyone here know how to use pillows random scenarios at all?

devout badger
modest flint
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i mean how to use pillow custom scenario

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i want to add multi hit to the scenarios

jolly flicker
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You could probably use the Change Sandbox Options mod to add multi hit after the scenario starts. I don't think you can normally change challenge scenario settings so that would be easier than editing the code

dusty prairie
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need help with gportal map mods DM if can help

green wraith
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Im trying to set up RV interior for the multiplayer server i have with my friends. we are starting from a new save and in the instructions it says
"the map file "vehicle_interior" needs to be put in top priority for MP"
How can i do this?

robust moat
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Anyone Know how to Fix True Actions PT2 Laying Down it wont Work For Me

burnt comet
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out of curiosity, how complicated is adding new traits? i kinda want to put together a very basic mod that contains traits that give you skill points in skills that don't normally have related traits, but i have no idea how complex the process of adding traits is

maiden flare
green wraith
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Server. They join through steam but not remote play

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@maiden flare

maiden flare
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so its dedicated

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ok

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im not familiar with the dedicated interface do you use server settings like servertest

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if so you should be a maps tab and you can add/move the RV_interior to the top of map priority

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@green wraith

green wraith
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Ok I'll check in a few minutes

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I did see the option to add a map

maiden flare
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if its the same as coop when you select "serversettingsname" theres all the tabs for settings i would remove all RV mod items first then add RV interior in the workshop tab then remove RVinterior(notMP) from the mods tab

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then add/prioritzie the map

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is this a new map or prexisitng?

green wraith
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New map

maiden flare
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ok no need for other crap i had to deall with

green wraith
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And when you mean RV mod items do you mean like autostars trailers and stuff or just rv interiors

maiden flare
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so remove all RV interior mod mods in workshop and mods

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jsut the intier mods you can keep tuning and trailers

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then when you add it into workshop it auto adds to mods

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and remove the non mp version in the mods list

green wraith
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Oh ok thanks working now. I was looking in the wrong menu.

maiden flare
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ok cool i would test using cheat mods or something incase somethings all goofy like the issue where the bus/rv respawns the interior every time you enter

lunar stream
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how can i force loot to respawn on a server with over 100 mods

lapis edgeBOT
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lunar stream
maiden flare
lunar stream
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how could i reset them

maiden flare
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deleting the files for them

lunar stream
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small issue

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using a custom map

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so i dont know where its cells at

maiden flare
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theres some custom maps on that one site

lunar stream
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on what site

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because the map site does not have project russia

lunar stream
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there has to be an easier way

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good lord

maiden flare
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uhhhh become santa and go into every home and replenish gifts

low heath
modest flint
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does anyone know how to make 10 years later mod work for mp?

burnt comet
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i probably wouldn't recommend it for a dedicated server but

modest flint
burnt comet
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you need to load it as a map if i recall which means you also need to place it properly in the map order

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so it needs to be loaded after 'muldraugh, ky' which is the whole base map

modest flint
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ahhh

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ill let him know

burnt comet
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but also: when trying to install 10 years later, consider its performance impact heavily. if you are running a dedicated server or running a server off of a poor computer, it will probably be more trouble than its worth

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10 years later has a pretty extreme performance impact

jolly flicker
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Does anyone know what mods might cause the crafting menu to disappear from the usual spot in the top left?
I've got a massive mod list but with no console errors to indicate what it might be

lunar stream
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tried to go to the saves on my server

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so uh yeah think i'm gonna need yet another way

maiden flare
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ight bro idk gl

lunar stream
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apparently servers hosting modded maps dont have loot respawns at all

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well shit

maiden flare
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big brain play here

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uninstall map

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reinstall map

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boom

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i see no downsides to this approach and i already accept your thanks

candid kraken
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Got questions about a couple mods, one, filibuster rhymes used cars keys for me are named very odd, not just name of the car but like GUI_ and then the car name. Other question is auto star trailers compatible with filibuster rhymes used cars? Thank you

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also the keys are green

jolly flicker
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Filibuster's should work fine with most other car mods.
I'm not sure if the key name thing came about with the item category update or is something to do with the Better Sorting mod

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I've just been ignoring it, you rarely look at keys and it doesn't break anything else

candid kraken
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I do have the better sorting mod so its probably that

ripe rain
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is there a version of Lockpicking that actually works with the current Framework? Tried a bunch and no success

rough hound
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Has anyone been able to change the zombie configs for Doom Zombies? I tried to remove the fire zombies by setting their spawn to 0, but they kept spawning in the world.

primal nest
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Anyone know how to use Bayonets for britas gun mod?

lucid bluff
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try read the mod page screenshots

light rose