mod_development

[hexed stirrup]

what im loving about this game is that the file structure is easy to understand like im just looking at the game files and replicating what i see adn for the most part its working

also is it called preview.png in b42? its called thumb.png for me

[thick bobcat]

But you have done ✨ Something ✨

[hexed stirrup]

Its only showing up in the solo menu

I cant select it as a spawn location in my server

It doesnt show up

I hosting from ingame

how do i make it available on the server too?

[hexed stirrup]

Ah nvm my bad

I forgot to add it in the server settings

[topaz tangle]

It’s since been fixed!
Though I have a new problem now

[topaz tangle]

perchance does anyone here know how to add a third tow attachment point to a vehicle? i tried just adding a new one but that didnt work

[main pasture]

It should work the same way. You just have to ensure the trailer has the correct canAttach (normally just "trailer"), so it can actually use the attachment

[topaz tangle]

yeah i did all that but it still doesnt work, i cant tow normal vehicles with it either

[main pasture]

I think every vehicle would need to have the canAttach configured to be able to connect to it. Did you check the trailer connects when the attachment has the standard name?

I had hard time trying to connect a semi trailer I was trying to make, even when it "worked"

[topaz tangle]

for example, both would look like this?

[topaz tangle]

right now im trying to make sure the attachment point thing works, but i do know i might also have issues getting past the "cannot reach trailer" thing

[main pasture]

I'm not sure, but seems with a quick search that only the trailers normally have canAttach defined. Maybe try with the trailers attachment named "trailer" and the vehicles attachment without canAttach

[topaz tangle]

I’ll try that in a moment!

doesnt seam to have worked

currently looks like this
truck
attachment TrailerTruck
{
offset = 0.0000 -0.2747 -1.1703,
rotate = 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
zoffset = -1.0000,

trailer
attachment trailer
{
offset = 0.0000 -0.0549 1.0110,
rotate = 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000,
canAttach = TrailerTruck,
}

[clever quarry]

My life would be so much simpler if there was an event on the server that did this, but now I need to implement a filter for /whisper and some Sanbox settings.

[clever quarry]

remember to always test your code

[frank elbow]

not X == Y → X ~= Y. not has higher precedence so you'll be comparing a boolean with a string (and it'll never pass)

I have some other points of feedback if you're interested, but holding off unless you indicate that you are to not be rude

[clever quarry]

You can send it, I like to learn and it's always useful to have someone to evaluate you.

but know that I don't know lua very well, I write C and ASM

[frank elbow]

Gotcha, all good. The main thing: you should prefix your variables with the local keyword—this makes the variables local to their scope. The default is global, so everything you defined there will be polluting the global scope

[clever quarry]

I will do that, thanks for letting me know.

@frank elbow any more tips?

[frank elbow]

Looks good to me. I'd probably extract it to a function on a table returned from the module just in case someone else wants to override it for mod compatibility reasons, but for logging messages idk how likely that'd be

What I mean by that, if you do end up wanting to do that:

local YourModName = {}

function YourModName.OnAddMessage(message, tabId)
  -- ...
end

Events.OnAddMessage.Add(YourModName.OnAddMessage)
return YourModName

(the return with access to the function is so someone can remove your listener & replace it if they so desire)

[clever quarry]

That's good, I liked this idea of ​​modules, I'll research more later and the mod isn't exactly for logging messages

[lavish zenith]

When I test this recipe in game, it makes 250 nails. What am I missing?
recipe Carve Wooden Pegs
{
Log,
keep [Recipe.GetItemTypes.SharpKnife]/MeatCleaver/SharpedStone,
Result : Nails=50,
Time : 1000,
Category : Carpentry,
CanBeDoneFromFloor : True,
Sound : Sawing,
AnimNode : SawLog,
Prop1 : Hacksaw,
Prop2: Log,
OnGiveXP : Recipe.OnGiveXP.SawLogs,
}

Nevermind, I think I see it. this is from base
recipe Open Box of Nails
{
NailsBox,

Result:Nails=20,
Sound:PutItemInBag,
Time:5.0,

}

[silent zealot]

Good thing the Australian game rating is based on Vanilla and not modded gameplay.

[mellow frigate]

is AK-47 something else than a range weapon ?

[silent zealot]

A strain of Marijuana, apparently,

[brave bone]

I love my AK-47 sealed, ready to pewpew..

[silent zealot]

Also a very good example of why you need to use unique names for items if they are in the Base namespace when Rain's Gun mod and this drug mod both added Base.AK47

[lament zodiac]

does anyone know why my custom clothes are crunchy? XD

[lament zodiac]

if anyone has exported .fbx clothes for project zomboid before, may i request a quick walk through on how to do it? im not sure whats going on.

[tranquil kindle]

What do you mean by that?

Oh now I see... It's hard to notice on phone

[lament zodiac]

yeah for some reson its bugging out when i try to load them in game, but they look okay in blender. ive tried exporting the clothing as .FBX and .X and neither work. X files are invisible, FBX are crunchy

[tranquil kindle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444877391 for me it looks like they're not weighted properly

Or at all.

[tranquil kindle]

Did you parent then to armature and weight paint parts to corresponding bones for it to move with character?

It looks oddly similar to vanilla player model that has been modified. If that's the case you do need to check if every part of model has at least one bone affecting it. If there is a part that's not weighted it will act like on picture you've send

[lament zodiac]

yes.

[lament zodiac]

also, yes. wedding dress and long coat models were reused for this.

[tranquil kindle]

So you're sure that everything is weight painted, like every face/triangle? Can you show your XML file?

[hasty hill]

I would assign vertexes instead of painting

It is less messy

[lament zodiac]

every face has weight.

[hasty hill]

how big is your texture?

[lament zodiac]

512

its something to do with the mesh.

but idk what

like it crunches and spazes out in game

[tranquil kindle]

That's first time I see this pop up...

[lament zodiac]

its fine in blender...

[lament zodiac]

its a plug in i have that lets me know if verticies are empty.

[tranquil kindle]

But are the bones named correctly to those from vanilla?

[lament zodiac]

yes. i was sure not to touch any of the names.

[tranquil kindle]

I have one more thought but as I said I'd need to see your clothing item XML file

[lament zodiac]

okay so i think it might be that im exporting it wrong? because of how its fine and following the skeleton on blender but buggy in game. i had this issue on another platform and it was an export issue, so im trying to figure out whats going on. and this for now is a direct replacement of another clothing object. i do not understand XML so i am not touching that file.

[tranquil kindle]

Can you show whole blender window opened with everything?

[lament zodiac]

what are you trying to look at? i can show you the export window? i think that will be more helpful. the game i modeled for used .dae files. this is my first time working with .fbx and .x files

[tranquil kindle]

Might I ask where you got that armature from?

[lament zodiac]

throttle kitty's character files. they are fbx versions of the default zomboid ones. they load in flawlessly, but the moment i pop it into blender and export the darn thing, crunch

[tranquil kindle]

This?

[lament zodiac]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1i2VYWHNvrGXfDS1dv_9VYgCnI4PpTqxc

im not a maya user

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12ALrxOPoGeTSefUwTmfdmOg00oNwiEta?usp=drive_link but this one has it

im basically just doing a reskin of some of the primative survival mods as a placeholder for when a friend of mine finishes his mod.

but ill convert it to the blender file you linked and try it

[tranquil kindle]

What exacly are you Exporting from blender when doing so?

Everything or?

[lament zodiac]

selection only. just the coat and/or skirt

[tranquil kindle]

I was wondering why your files were so small in terms of size

[lament zodiac]

okay fair... translation data... gotta figure out what that means

[lament zodiac]

that makes total sense now LOL

[tranquil kindle]

Let's just say that Translation Data MUST be there when you have weighted model

It makes character move, so probably clothes

I don't know exacly how it works.

[lament zodiac]

yeah the game i made for previously only has you exporting the clothing and nothing else. not sure if there ever was, im guessing so, i never touched it

[tranquil kindle]

For animations its required to be moved when you want to make character's animation move actuall character

[lament zodiac]

that is fair. im self taught so i have blanks in my knowledge LOL so thank you. let me try this and see how it works.

[tranquil kindle]

#modeling message I can suggest using this. I've made it some time ago. I know it has some "duplicated" bones, but i've been using it so far and had no issues. You can always just delete duplicated ones. It has Both characters on same armature, aswell as female player model positoned pretty much 1 to 1 as ingame character. When using other's files i had issues when i made Jackets and such that arms were not in same positions when imported to game. It turned out that when i made clothing item of that model and equiped it, arms and some other parts were not perfectly placed, making clothing models out of it troublesome as you had to tweak them after.

[lament zodiac]

ill try this out. thank you so much. ive always been a texture artist first and foremost, but i enjoy making mesh. im glad to me making for more than one game now ahaha!

THANK YOU

[tranquil kindle]

I on the other hand rely mostly on software for textures. Substance painter my beloved

Yay!

[lament zodiac]

i LOVE substance painter ehehe

[lament zodiac]

if you ever need some textures or patterns, hit me up. i figure i owe you one.

[tranquil kindle]

You don't owe anything. We're modders and were here to help eachother.

"Double it and give it to the next person"

[lament zodiac]

fair enough. i really should set up a tutorial for this as i see now a lot of things that is not entirely intuitive for beginners. i suppose this is the benefit of doing something for the first time... that depends on my schedule though...

[lament zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/u-unlimited-power-star-wars-lightning-gif-14542323

[ancient grail]

its for the player to move around basically
its a bone(ish)

[ancient grail]

lots of modders who does animation said this
but no one actually did it
animsets == maze

o wait youre talking about clothing mod

damn i need to sleep

[lament zodiac]

all good man XD ugh i cant waaaiiit till i try animations LMFAO

[winter bolt]

clothing models only need to bones theyre weighted to

if you have a hat or something you can just delete everything except the head bone to lower the file size

[topaz tangle]

anyone know why thistexture thing is happening?
working on the b42 port of my mod, i know its the overlay textures but not sure why

[hybrid edge]

Hi everyone, I'm looking to make a small mod that changes the flag of a certain item. Specifically I'm trying to add the RepairWithEpoxy flag to the Metal Baseball Bat with Sawblade. How does one create a mod for this?

[thin swan]

You're looking for script fixing blocks: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Fixing_(scripts)

[topaz tangle]

figured it out

[storm trench]

If there's one thing I hope AI figures out, it's how to be more of an "automatic photoshop". Reskinning stuff this way gets old. Unless anyone else knows of a better way than manually...?

[topaz tangle]

Use paint.net
It’s what I use for all my re-skinning

Just, fill tool

[bright fog]

What do you want to do exactly ?

[storm trench]

I think that's a little too basic imo, but you do you of course hahaa.

[storm trench]

What are you talkin about?

I'm just saying it would be nice if I could just tell an AI "hey, turn this red" and it will do so with minimal input. I just don't like photoshopping hahaa.

[nimble yew]

I can't find references to how to know if a square has power and how to "register" usage of power. Does anyone know?

[topaz tangle]

That’s just a waste of time

Takes longer to ask something to turn something red then it takes to use a fill tool

[nimble yew]

also, can I suscribe to an event conditionally like

if SandboxVars.FunctionalCarLift.ConvertVanilla or SandboxVars.FunctionalCarlift.RevertVanilla then Events.LoadGridsquare.Add(functionalCarLift_OnLoadGridSquare) end

[main pasture]

You could create separate gray scale layer for the stuff you intend to color differently and then just apply multiplier layer to that that does the coloring

[storm trench]

How do you use a fill tool for complicated textures? In my experience it just messes the whole thing up. You need a finer attention to detail with a digital brush.

[topaz tangle]

Turn the tolerance to zero

[storm trench]

I'll "outline" an area so the fill tool doesn't mess it up, but that's about it.

[storm trench]

Yeah that went poorly lolll.

[storm trench]

Hmmm. Maybe if I did that from the start, but unfortunately the originals weren't my own.

[tranquil kindle]

Can't you like select by color then colorize it?

Though im not sure what software it is. I use gimp, but im also lazy so i usually screnshot my models and make it an icon

[main pasture]

Just copy the layer, remove everything else from it and turn it gray scale. The coloring is non-destructive, so you only have to do it once

[topaz tangle]

Show me your settings

[storm trench]

It's alrighty, I'll just keep doing it the way I was doing it. Grayscale turned out kinda... meh... and it's really not a huge deal, I was more or less expressing that it would be really cool if AI could handle something tedious like this in the future (it can't, I've tried, it doesn't understand the image is a UV map or icon or anything like that. It'll mess it up one way or another and isn't worth the hassle).

[topaz tangle]

But, why ask an ai do do something that take like thirty seconds?
It just doesn’t make any sense

If if you can’t do it in photoshop, only takes a few seconds to load up another program where you can do it

[storm trench]

I'm just gonna drop it because we're not talking on the same wavelength here.

[bright fog]

I mean you asked if anyone had a better way than manually and I asked what you want to do because I didn't understand what you wanted to do

[storm trench]

Because there really is no other solution. That's why I brought up how nice it would be to have something like that. I can't really "simply" do any of it; so I ask again, won't that be nice when AI gets to the point where it can 'photoshop' anything automatically? I could just say "hey, turn this cart red" and it would change everything to the color shade equivalent on its own (and probably be able to ignore the boxes).

[nimble yew]

for me, short answer is "it would be nice". the long answer questions the impact on human stupidity in the near and not so near future...

[storm trench]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[nimble yew]

on a question of my own, I'm having issues creating an object with a specific sprite.

The reference of IsoObject constructor goes something like this IsoObject(IsoGridSquare square, String tile), but I'm not getting the result I'm looking for when executing this:

if spriteName == "location_business_machinery_01_11" then
      -- column W
      print("[FunctionalCarLift] Replacing car lift tile "..spriteName.." with car_lift_01_0 at X="..square:getX()..", Y="..square:getY())
      square:RemoveTileObject(obj)
      square:AddTileObject(IsoObject.new(square, "car_lift_01_0"))
end

basically, I'm not getting the sprite rendered on the map. Instead, when debugging the map I see an "empty" object with no name and no sprite

and this is what I'm looking for

[nimble yew]

nvm, found the isoObject:setSpriteFromName() and skipped removing the undesired object and reusing it:

if spriteName == "location_business_machinery_01_11" then
      -- column W
      print("[FunctionalCarLift] Replacing car lift tile "..spriteName.." with car_lift_01_0 at X="..square:getX()..", Y="..square:getY())
      obj:setSpriteFromName("car_lift_01_0")
end

[nimble yew]

I don't know why it didn't work before... I just grep'd the vanilla lua folder and found tons of identical references 😦

./client/DebugUIs/Scenarios/Trailer2Scenario.lua: sq:AddTileObject(IsoObject.new(sq, "overlay_blood_wall_01_3"));

[ancient grail]

is there a way to determine if the contextmenu is open?

[ancient grail]

this is not synced for mp , just saying (tho you might be doing this for b42 so should be safe i guess)

[nimble yew]

thanks! I will then add

if isServer() then obj:transmitUpdatedSpriteToClients(); end

if I end up running AddTileObject(), will that be synced for MP?

[silent zealot]

Because Zomnoid loves concolted ways to do things, it works like this.

1. Is global power on? getWorld():isHydroPowerOn() will tell you.
2. is the square indoors? not(square:isOutside()) will tell you
3. Is the square powered by a generator ? square:haveElectricity()

Most vanilla stuff only considers outside tiles to have power when the electicity is on if they are inside.

As for registering with a generator... pretty sure you're out of luck if it does not already work, it happens in IsoGenerator.Update() and is hardcoded on object type.

[nimble yew]

oh, so I won't be able to register a power consumption from the Car Lift. The tiles are simple IsoObjects. I will still be able to check for power availability at least

you got me confused with the inside/outside thing. Should it matter? I mean:

if getWorld():isHydroPowerOn() or square:haveElectricity() then doSomethingOrNot() end

[ancient grail]

if youre doing this server side then yeah thats what you need, theres another one for client side

[nimble yew]

I don't exactly know where this is running. I read somewhere that it depends from where it's called, not on the folder is placed on. It's executed on this subscribed event Events.LoadGridsquare.Add(functionalCarLift_OnLoadGridSquare)

At this moment I'm trying on SP and I'm still having issues with tiles, but I think isServer() and isClient() both return false on SP. I guess I don't need to sync on SP

[ancient grail]

yep

[topaz tangle]

updated version of all the "all of it" reference template since it got changed in b 41

better color choice

[slender thistle]

does anyone know if tilezed has been updated for b42? I am thinking of maybe trying to make a custom map but I dont wanna go through the whole thing if it turns out it doesnt work anymore or whatever

[nimble yew]

I'm not sure, but in the mapping channel there a lot of messages talking about B42 maps

#mapping

[slender thistle]

didnt know that was a channel, ty

[nimble yew]

they helped me a lot when dealing with TileZed and its convoluted tile properties

[bright fog]

There's events that trigger when you open a context menu. You can check the place where you add the context menu UI to be activated

[ocean crow]

Hello chat,I need someone who knows how to use the debug mod, and who can tell me how to change the configuration of my game, I want to change from rainy to normal.

[ancient grail]

i dont need it anymore but thnx . might do this in the future

[ancient grail]

#1070852229654917180 message

[ocean crow]

Yo chat,The "better fps" mod It doesn't work anymore for this update, and I really need it, can someone make a patch?

[tranquil kindle]

It's the one you insert into game's folder?

Have you done it AFTER it updated?

[ocean crow]

Ye

[ocean crow]

I've always used it, and suddenly, after this update, it doesn't work. I deleted and uninstalled pz and the mod, and installed it Manual, and nothing. Many people have the same problem as me.

[bright fog]

It will break every patch

[ocean crow]

You're going to fix it ?

[ocean crow]

Please make it work.

[bright fog]

???

[ocean crow]

The better fps mod..

[bright fog]

You think modders here are your slaves or what ? You think every modders will fix every mods out there ?

[ocean crow]

Can i make it work? Bc in new update not working

I don't want it to be an discussion or am I obligated to, I'm asking you, if you can't, thank you and have a nice day.

[bright fog]

Like any other mod, just wait

[ocean crow]

It's incredible how someone can take something like that so badly.

[bright fog]

"You're going to fix it ?"

You're coming here thinking modders will do it for you ?

[ocean crow]

I'm using translator, and I think the way I wrote it wasn't aggressive, but okay

[bright fog]

Have a bit of respect for modders ?

Just wait for the modder to update

Accept the fact java mods need to be updated every game patch

Your save will work fine without the mod anyway

[ocean crow]

👀I guess you're having a bad day for being so aggressive.

[bright fog]

No you're just not respectful and asking modders to do things for you

[ocean crow]

Bye. If anyone could make a patch I would appreciate it.

[bright fog]

Do it yourself

[ocean crow]

Ok, your way is already bothering me.

Ignoring is the best option

[icy night]

Lol what

[ancient grail]

i have no words

[terse charm]

I'm only here for 20 hours now, but I think everyone would appreciate it to have this channel for development instead of personal conversation.
(In my opinion blaze was just very direct but not aggressive or disrespectful. Just not very polite. )
But anyway, would love to have this thread here to scroll through some useful information 🙂

[ancient grail]

useful in what way?

try the mod resource and mod tool threads

[terse charm]

Useful in that way, that here we can talk about mod development, issues, fixes & solutions 🙂

[ancient grail]

mod resources:

#1070852229654917180 message

mod tools:

#1070858800501891172 message

well thats the point of this main channel

what you just witness rarely happens here

thats for the #mod_support
non modders who needs help from modder i guess

[ancient grail]

you should look at distributions
im replying from you post on mod support

you can also just spawn the item using debug console

[terse charm]

yeah, found it out myself already.
Finished my first mod tonight

Thank you !
Very surprised of this big Zomboid-Modding-Community!

[topaz tangle]

yeah the modding community hjere is huge, mostly because of how intergrated modding is in game

[bright fog]

Also check the modding wiki

[summer sequoia]

Hi guys, new aspiring mod creator here (mainly focused on QoL enhancements and not actual gameplay), I started yesterday and was realizing some things but wanted to confirm. I have questions around I/O.

Is it actually true that getFileReader is protected only to have access to the Zomboid/Lua folder? but not Zomboid root? I noticed this behavior when trying to access files console logs at the root directory (Zomboid/coop-console.txt and Zomboid/console.txt).

The filepath resolves, but throws an IOException if I try to read nil. I'm trying to figure out if this is because I indeed cannot access these files or if it's because LoggerManager.class is recreating these files and so at time of read it's technically not available to find yet (though, I have tried Events.OnTick.Add and delay() but looks like the engine doesn't like that, which makes sense).

I ended up finding this: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6111-lua-file-io/

I'm trying something like this: local filePath = Core.getMyDocumentFolder() .. getFileSeparator() .. "coop-console.txt"

local reader = getFileReader(filePath, false)

I am able to read in Zomboid/Lua, so my thinking is that we indeed are protected against Zomboidroot. If so then how can I actually read console.txt and coop-console.txt. I was thinking maybe creating a new LoggerManager instance and logging to Lua, but I'm worried about reducing performance for players by duplicating files just to Read.

[soft temple]

My brain thought that functional stovetops would be easy af to mod in. turns out I should spend some time learning lua first. I was thinking oh i'll just hook into the ovens code and just run it on the outside, nope. time to simulate every facet of the oven. T.T;

[thin swan]

Haha yeah welcome to PZ modding! If you think something is gonna be easy, it's probably not

[soft temple]

tbh, that seems to be PZ in a nutshell. if it looks easy, it's not.

[nimble yew]

I'm yet to reach your conclusions, but I've been using TileZed for the Car Lift mod and the tile properties are what makes the ovens ovens. I thought I had to make a ton of Lua code to make the Car Lift moveables, but it was just playing with tile properties

[whole vessel]

can anyone explain to me why there is a discrepancy between ingame info and source code here?

ok on second glance, every plant is 1 number staggered in terms of months to their real life month

[nimble yew]

looks like january would be 0, right?

[thin swan]

Feels weird that sowMonth and bestMonth would be 0-indexed but not badMonth (since it has 12)

[whole vessel]

it seems like it goes from 1 to 12

except 1 is december

[thin swan]

lmao, so 12 is january?

or 2 is jan?

[whole vessel]

12 is january, 1 is feb, 2 is march, 3 is april

so I got it wrong

1 is feb not dec

[thin swan]

Jesus christ, that is a mindfuck

[nimble yew]

should I back up my saves if I want to switch to B42 for porting and testing my mod?

or I can just leave them be if I'm not using them?

[thin swan]

Best is to make a new cachedir, that way your settings won't reset every time you switch.
I'd suggest following this https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1hite37/guide_have_both_b41_and_b42_installed/

[nimble yew]

thanks, I was looking for this kind of guides

[bright fog]

Tht's cursed lol

[queen oasis]

the best issues

[bronze yoke]

yes, what you are trying to do is not possible

[summer sequoia]

Ack. Looks like there's getLogsDir() for what seems to be Zomboid/Logs... struggling to figure out how to use it though, can't find any discord history... relevant docs.. nada.

Anyone know of a way to intercept what LoggerManager is streaming at least? D:

[topaz tangle]

anyone have any idea why this is happening?

[bronze yoke]

you can't really, there's no way to read files from outside of Zomboid/

that function doesn't exist for lua usage

[flat bluff]

Would someone kindly tell me how to give 2 items from a single recipe result?
I am looking for an example in the game's recipes but can't find any.

[nimble yew]

someone asked the same question a few days ago, and the answer he was given was to hook to the recipe done event and add the second item manually

[bronze yoke]

which build? build 41?

[flat bluff]

b41, apologies.

[bronze yoke]

yeah, you need an oncreate function to add the extra item(s)

[flat bluff]

Thanks both of you <3.
Going to search here, didn't occurr to me because tired as hell.

[soft temple]

I'm going to have to look into tilezed thank you

[delicate solar]

hello guys, can i ask a question about zombies spawn control ? (WorldEd:ZombiesType/ZombiesZoneDefinition.lua)

[safe lagoon]

so how does one make a mod to make something normally uncraftable craftable

in this case my intent is to make pasta with Flour and eggs.

[thin swan]

Yes feel free to ask, if anyone here knows they will answer. It's best to just ask, instead of asking to ask 😄

[thin swan]

You would just need to make a new recipe, look at some vanilla examples in ...\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\recipes and you will see how they are made.

You can read more about it on the wiki:
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Recipe_(scripts)
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Evolvedrecipe_(scripts)

[delicate solar]

i try to define specific zones in my map, ZombiesType zones in WorldEd refer to white pixels in map_ZombiesSpawnMap.bmp
ZombiesType names refers to ZombiesZoneDefinition specitfication, where i try to force zombies only with my defined outfit.
i can spawn zombies with outfit, but i always see other random zombies. And i don't understand why.
ZombiesType zone cover white zone in BMP file.
i use mandatory=true with ToSpawn=15 for example, or chance=100 but random zombies stil spawn with mine

is there a vanilla force chance random zombies ?

ZombiesZoneDefinition.ZoneGardes2 = {
chanceToSpawn=100,
ZekeGardes2 = {
toSpawn=15,
gender="male",
mandatory="true",
name="ZekeGardes",
},
};

[bright fog]

Simply make a new recipe, like Alex said

For B42 use https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe_(scripts) instead

[safe lagoon]

NGL i jsut copied the "make bread dough" recipe to a new file in notepad plus and made some adjustments to it

[bright fog]

That works too

[safe lagoon]

    {
        timedAction = MixingBowl,
        Time = 50,
        NeedToBeLearn = True,
        category = Cooking,
        Tags = AnySurfaceCraft;Cooking,
        xpAward = Cooking:10,
        AutoLearnAny = Cooking:7,
        inputs
        {
            item 1 tags[MixingUtensil] mode:keep flags[MayDegradeLight],
            item 1 [Base.Bowl;Base.ClayBowl] mode:keep,
            item 1 [Base.RollingPin] mode:keep flags[MayDegrade],
            item 6 tags[Flour],
            item 2 tags[Egg] flags[IsUncookedFoodItem;InheritFoodAge;ItemCount],
            item 1 tags[DullKnife;SharpKnife;MeatCleaver] mode:keep flags[MayDegradeLight],
            item 1 [*],
            -fluid 1.0 [Water],
        }
        outputs
        {
            item 1 Base.Pasta,
        }
    }```

[bright fog]

If you ever want to modify some bits, don't hesitate to read the wiki page I sent

It has all the info for B42 crafts

Here the recipe looks good, you're not overwriting anything

[safe lagoon]

hmmm, might also have this be learnable from the "Italian Delights" magazine and/or from traits

[bright fog]

You'll have to check recipes that do that then, I'm not sure how to make a recipe learnable from magazines

[safe lagoon]

seems simple enough, though how to make it compatible with anything else that modifies those is probably a bit much for now

i think i'll just have "need to be learn = False" for now

or maybe "autolearnany = Cooking: 1"

or both

[bright fog]

I don't see any incompatibly issue that could arise from your current script for the craft

[safe lagoon]

my concern was also having it change the script for the magazine and traits

[bright fog]

Like I said, no idea how these work but I doubt it'll cause much incompatibility if you do it right

And I'd be surprised if it required a huge amount of work to do right

[safe lagoon]

this is mainly for me right now, i will upload it to the workshop once i am sure it wokrs right and if people ask for it then i'll make it more "progressiony"

hmmm, where do i put the file in my game to test it?

i have it heer but it's not showing up in the modlist?

[topaz tangle]

make sure your file structure is correct, should go
mod name -> media -> whatever folders are relevent

also make sure you have a mod.info and preview photo in the same folder as media

I’ve got no clue then, sorry!!

[safe lagoon]

what i have in the Mod.info file

name=make pasta
id=make_pasta
icon=icon.png
poster=preview.png
description=make pasta using Flour and Eggs
modversion=42.7```

[bronze yoke]

put it in %UserProfile%/Zomboid/mods/

[safe lagoon]

did catch i forgor to rename the photos in the second pictures file

[bronze yoke]

the one in the ProjectZomboid folder is fake and exists for no reason 🤷‍♀️

[safe lagoon]

didn't work

[bronze yoke]

oh add a common folder in mods/Make Pasta/

it refuses to load the mod if there isnt a folder in it called common, it can just be empty though

[safe lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-rejoice-happy-and-there-was-much-rejoicing-gif-15654146

i was able to make 10 pastas from 1 item worth of flour babyyyy

which is slightly more than what you'd get out of the same flour using a make bread recipe

specifically 9% or 2,744 more calories

though accounting for the eggs it'd be 4.8% or 1,484 calories

[safe lagoon]

what am i missing here?

okay don't know what i did but i fixed it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3468270330

[bright fog]

It'll stay bugged

Add & at the end

[safe lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3468270330&

[bright fog]

It'll update way later once Discord resets cache

That happens bcs you sent it the first time the moment your mod was hidden due to changes to description, new upload etc

[safe lagoon]

oops

anyway

enjoy for all my yeast and salt haters

(assuming i didn't brokes it)

[queen oasis]

just want to check - there are no issues with adding a required mod to an existing mod?

[summer sequoia]

What is the best testing flow people are using? Is it quite literally editing in VSCode and opening up the game to test every single time? Closing the game (or relaunching Lua depending on what's changing), making the code change, saving, and then reopening?

[frank elbow]

I think that's typical, yeah. If by closing the game you mean returning to the main menu—for stuff that can't be easily tested by reloading the file that should be sufficient

Unit tests are possible but require a lot of mocking for stuff using global game functions

[summer sequoia]

Yeah, I was trying to figure out how unit tests would be done for games (new to game modding), ty!

[frank elbow]

I use busted to write unit tests for my library mod, but idk if I'd do it for a regular mod. Doesn't seem worth the time sink imo, but it certainly has been useful for catching stuff

[summer sequoia]

In my case, I was making main menu and OptionSheets code changes, so it really meant either refreshing Lua at main menu or if the menu got hung up then close/reopening. :/

[frank elbow]

Ah, gotcha—that's unfortunate

[topaz tangle]

https://outplayed.tv/project-zomboid/EEJ40x
does anyone here know how the suspesion stuff works? i have tried to fix this but everytime i change something it gets worse

(persists after fixing center of mass)

[blazing halo]

Hello, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place but I have an idea for a mod but I have no experience developing mods so I am certain that I am not capable of making it yet. I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction to starting learn to do somethin like this. I want to start small so, I want to add a single throw that will takedown Zomboids, to the game initially. I have a complete vision for what I'd like the mod to look like eventually but I want to start here. Are there any resources online that I can learn from to be able to do something like this?

[bright fog]

I reload Lua usually directly in game

But yea that's basically it

[thin swan]

Hello! A mod like that would require working with animations, and currently there are no updated and fleshed out animation guides really.
You can check out https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Animation_guide but with no modding/animation experience it will be hard to put everything together.
I'm planning on writing a tutorial for it though, hopefully should have some time this week to do it.

[thin swan]

Has anyone played around with attaching stuff to backpacks?
I found that the bedrolls are attached by just putting
AttachmentType = Bedroll in the item script, and this can be used for any item it seems.
But what if I want the item to be attachable to both backpacks and back? So like having AttachmentType = Bedroll;Shovel
I'm thinking I could add another attachment type as modData and then hook into the context option to add my custom option.
But if there's an easier solution that would be nice

[bright fog]

You mean attachment slots that appear in your hotbar ?

[thin swan]

Yeah, and have it visible on the backpack. If I change my weapon item script to have AttachmentType = Bedroll then it works exactly as I want. I can attach it to a backpack and when activating the hotbar slot it's equipped into my hands.
But when i don't have a backpack I want to still be able to attach it to my back

[bright fog]

I see what you mean

No idea how that'd be doable. You can probably fuck around with hotbar stuff bjt I'm not familiar enough with it

[thin swan]

Ah okay, yeah it seems the attach submenu is created in ISHotbar.doMenuFromInventory so I'll try messing around with it when I get home

[queen oasis]

So confused. I uploaded a new version of a mod last night and checked 2 hours later before going to bed to make sure I didn't break anything and I have these comments. I've done everything I can to figure out what the issue might be. I uploaded a test mod so I can go through the upgrade path they did, which includes a new mod requirement. Everything works fine for me.

The snippet of error log shows it couldn't find a variable, which it gets from either from player mod data or, if it can't find that, it will set a default value. But none of that should cause a black screen. The B41 version didn't change a bit, only the B42 code so the mod.info's are different . The 42 version has a new mod requirement. 42 also has mod options now. Those are the only big differences.

If anyone has any ideas on what I should look for, I would be forever grateful.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3468612770

[bright fog]

Kind of hard to find much just from that

[queen oasis]

I know. It's works fine for me so I'm hoping someone can drop an error log. I was kind of hoping y'all be like, "you're mod info is jacked bro" or something else stupid I overlooked

[elfin stump]

Hello all I am curious if anyone has a good guide on making traits. I found this one: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3022905387 which is great for the covering how to make the framework of them, but it does not cover how to actually have the trait do anything to the player as far as I can tell. Does anyone have that part? Or know where and how to actually modify the player stats using a trait? Thanks! 🙂

My approach I plan on using is to find out how to check for the trait from the API and then apply things using a function on character creation etc. I think this will work well but haven't dug into these systems yet. If there is a better way, let me know! 🙂

[thin swan]

I haven't dug very deep into it either, but I think you're on the right path. From what I gathered when I last checked the traits are basically just params that are checked before performing certain actions, as modifiers for certain stats and settings, etc.
So for example when creating the context menu option for reading, it checks if the player has the illiterate trait and disables the reading option if they do.
Or it can be used to modify the player stats. So if you know how to check if your player has your custom trait, and you know how to write the code for modifying the stat you want, then that's all you need

[elfin stump]

Awesome thank you! I was thinking this may be the way but was uncertain if there was a built in system. I appreciate the feedback!

[finite scroll]

desensitized is specified as "far less prone to panic", can anyone clarify how exactly it works?

or at least if it's different in b42

[thin swan]

No problem! Good luck with your mod 😄 Just come back here and ask if you have any questions while making it

[finite scroll]

nevermind, wiki has a page for the unstable, and it's basically identical

[slim swan]

Is there a way to get the untranslated item name, or to force it to return the English name?

[bronze yoke]

you can get the internal name with item:getFullType()

[slim swan]

But the same fulltype can have different names representing different items, so I need to retrieve and record that name. But after reloading the game, it can no longer recognize names in languages other than English.

Just like Base.PopBottle, it represents several different items — cola, orange soda, etc.

[bronze yoke]

they're the same item, they just have different fluids in them

[slim swan]

I know they’re technically the same item, but I want a more accurate way to identify them.Other than using the item name, I can't think of any other way to distinguish each item like the inventory pane does.

[queen oasis]

I'm going to preface this by saying that everything works when I run this mod. The only actual logged error that is reported is:
function: HighlightMouseSquare -- file: JB_ASSUtils.lua line # 223 and function: onTickEvent -- file: JB_ASSUtils.lua line # 135
which has to do with color, which to me doesn't make any sense because there are defaults set in case it fails:

-- fires on right-click menu
local highlightColorData = modOptions:getOption("Select_Color"):getValue()
JB_ASSUtils.highlightColorData = { red = highlightColorData.r, green = highlightColorData.g, blue = highlightColorData.b }
playerObj:getModData().highlightColorData = { red = highlightColorData.r, green = highlightColorData.g, blue = highlightColorData.b }```
```lua
-- in mod options file
local colors = { 0.2, 0.5, 0.7, 1 }
config.colorPicker = options:addColorPicker("Select_Color", getText("UI_options_JBLogging_Select_Color"), colors)```
```lua
-- how the selection utility retrieves a color
function JB_ASSUtils.GetPickedColor(playerObj)
    local highlightColorData
    if playerObj:getModData().highlightColorData then
        highlightColorData = playerObj:getModData().highlightColorData
    else
        highlightColorData = { red = 0.2, green = 0.5, blue = 0.7 }
        playerObj:getModData().highlightColorData = highlightColorData
    end
    return highlightColorData
end```
Is there something obvious I'm doing wrong here that could cause a black screen and/or the getPickedColor not to be able to get the highlightColorData?
and sorry for the wall of text.

[bright fog]

You refer to the various 3 colors as red, green, blue in that last code snippet but in the one right above you use r, g, b

[queen oasis]

ooooh

[bright fog]

Normalize that anywhere you use key colors to r, g, b as it's kind of the norm, is easier to manage overall I'd say, takes less space etc

The game uses r, g, b, and everyone uses rgb

That's probably the problem here I guess

[bronze yoke]

you should define it as a type

---@class (exact) JB_ASSUtils.Colour : {r: number, b: number, g: number}

---@type JB_ASSUtils.Colour
local colour = {red = 0.5, green = 0.5, blue = 0.5}
-- shows warning because red, green, blue are not valid keys in JB_ASSUtils.Colour

[terse charm]

Do you guys know if theres any event called while the ingame "helicopter event" starts?
Maybe even with the location of the helicopter?

I've found out that the helicopter is an invisible physical object.
Want to play around with it, but can't find a lua-event.

[bright fog]

I'm not aware of any

Have you checked the event list on the wiki ?

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Lua_events

@sour island might know more as he's the creator of Expanded helicopter events

[bronze yoke]

the helicopter event is basically unmoddable

ehe just remakes them in lua

[bright fog]

I believe I remember a function that allows you to check if the event is started

[craggy nacelle]

Urgh, sorry for the less technical question: I got dragged in an argument on a server im playing about patch mods. There is an argument that you need the consent from the original mod author to override or remove stuff. Like for example: remove an item from the distribution table, or overriding a fix so that you cant repair an item with jsut a torch but need metal, little stuff like that.
Whats the stance on that from indi and the modders in general? I personal always thought thats ok, but i might be wrong so i wanted to ask.

[terse charm]

That would be all I need. Actually

[bronze yoke]

all you can really do is check if it's started, and either start or stop one

[terse charm]

But I think theres somewhere the helicopterfile with the code in it to spawn the helicopter.
I think I just reedit the file.

[bronze yoke]

the helicopter event isn't lua

[bright fog]

You can make addons to a mod. The important part is not reuploading a mod without consent of the modder

[bronze yoke]

if it's done without reuploading the original mod/specific files from it there isn't a copyright concern

but ignoring legality, most modders won't mind if you do something like that

[bright fog]

You can make an addon that overwrites one of the mod files and have the original mod be required

So modifying distribution can be done without any issues, just don't reupload the original mod and make it an addon to the original mod instead

• what albion said

[frank elbow]

To answer the "stance on that from TIS" bit: if you're ever in doubt about that, check out the modding policy. What you described is not prohibited by that

[craggy nacelle]

So as long as i use the original mod and then write a mod addon thats ok? Thanks, that clears it up for me. Was worried i was wrong about that. And no, except from learning from other mods, i dislike stealing their stuff. Better to use the original mod and then just change the things that are are problem with a second mod. 🙂

Aprechiate the help and fast answer guys. Thx. 🙂

[bright fog]

Exactly, make a second mod which requires the original mod and change things there

[lavish zenith]

Speaking of patching existing mods, what's the best way to remove duplicate recipes?
It looks like they can share names, so how exactly do Obsolete:true and Override:true work?

[bronze yoke]

if they do share names, they don't work

obsolete/override target only the first recipe defined with that name

that's one of many reasons the ability to have more than one recipe with the same name was removed in build 42

[lavish zenith]

Is that just in b42?

[queen oasis]

so I downloaded the broken mod zip from my steam change notes and it's missing the common folder.... .. .

[bronze yoke]

they can't share names in b42 at all

[queen oasis]

and now my main menu is gone. Never been more thankful for an error screen

[queen oasis]

anyway, as usual you guys are correct. it is indeed the janky way I was setting colors

[terse charm]

Little question:
Is there only pzwiki and demiurgequantified.github.io for documentation?

For example I'm searching for the perks a player currently has.

If I take a look on IsoPlayer it does inherited several methods like "getPerkList" from IsoGameCharacter
But the Doc says kinda less.

Is the PerkList what I need to get the active perks?

public ArrayList<IsoGameCharacter.PerkInfo> getPerkList()

When I dive deeper into "PerkInfo" I see something like:

int level
PerkFactory.Perk perk

Diving deeper into "PerkFactory.Perk" turns out theres a String getName()

Feels like the doc is a whole labyrinth.

getPerkList() gives a list of IsoGameCharacter.PerkInfo
But this class only has a method called getLevel()
even if it has the fields

int level
PerkFactory.Perk perk

So I'm struggeling on how to find which active perks the player has including their level.

Is there a way to reload the mod while the game is running?
Than I can debug and try&error myself through it.

Would really really appreciate helping me with the knot in my brain.

[bright fog]

About the very last question, check out the community debug tools which has an easy to use tool to reloading the game. However note that some quirks can appear in some type of usage. This is something which is in the base game too but kind of unpractical

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Community_Modding_Projects

For your first question, give me a sec to check again on how to do that as I always forget it

player:getPerkLevel(Perks.Fitness)

[bright fog]

This is how I retrieve the fitness perk level for example

[bronze yoke]

if you want all perks you'd just iterate over the perks table and call that each time

[terse charm]

Yaa. simply said 😄
since visualX studio is not displaying all the possibilites it takes quite a lot of time to find all the classes I can call from the IsoPlayer class.

[bright fog]

I'll try to document that on the wiki

[bronze yoke]

if you're using a lua plugin with support for luacats typings you can use umbrella for intellisense

[bright fog]

So what is Perks exactly ?

It's not a Java object right ?

Wait no it is

[bright fog]

Added a wiki entry
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/IsoPlayer#Retrieve_player_stats

[blazing halo]

Thanks for the reply and info. I'm looking forward to your tutorial.

[terse charm]

I know this, but what I was struggeling with was to find the list of perks a player has.
I that it would be as simple as something like player:getPerkList()

This is my solution so far:

function get_perks(player)
    -- get all perks available in the game
    local list_perks = PerkFactory.PerkList
    local player_perks = {}

    -- get perk from list
    -- get level of perk from player
    -- put perkname and level as keyvalue into a table
    -- return table with all perks and levels
    for i = 0, list_perks:size() - 1 do
        local perk = list_perks:get(i)
        local perk_type = perk:getType()
        local string_perk_type = tostring(perk_type)
        local player_perk_level = player:getPerkLevel(perk_type)

        -- debug
        print(tostring(perk).. ": " .. player_perk_level)
        player_perks[string_perk_type] = player_perk_level
    end

    return player_perks
end

[frank elbow]

Asking because of “lists of perks a player has”: are you thinking of “traits”?

“Perks” is used for skills, which all players have, at some numeric level (even if they don't have experience in it, they have the perk)

[terse charm]

This code above lists all skills (in lua called perks) ingame.
That was was I was looking for.

Its just veerrry struggeling to crawl my way through not simple to understand code.

Especially this one makes no sense in my brain:
Imagine I want to add a players skill (perk) level.

local perks = get_perks(player)
player:getXp():setXPToLevel(Perks.Aiming, perks["Aiming"] + 1)

player:getxp() in my brain returns the XP
player:setxp() would set it

I wonder what the programmer made here.

I also would understand

player:xp:set
player:xp:get

The part whats freakin' me out is that there are different methods used for the same result.
logically "getPerkLevel(perk)" adds in my brain the function "setPerkLevel(perk, level)"
but why player:getXP():setXP..?

This is insane 😄

[sour island]

Xp is the object that houses all the xp's and methods related to it

One of which is setXPToLevel

[terse charm]

Yeah... I see.
I just found out that the docs aren't really helpful.
Instead I've put the whole zomboid folder into my workspace and search there.
Thats >the< solution so far!
Thanks Chuckle!

[bright fog]

The doc is useful, but it doesn't hold all the answers

The same way looking through the game code doesn't hold all the answers either

You're supposed to use all of them together to have a good picture of the game code

The java doc gives you all the possible methods. The game code shows you how most of it can be utilized, but it doesn't give you all the possible uses either

[silent zealot]

And the decompiled java shows you what the java methods actually do.

Since it's not wlways obvious from just the name.

[silent zealot]

You only need the game's media folder, and you can set the search to only look at *.txt, *.lua files. optional: exclude *Translate* so you don't lots of hits from the translation files.

[errant elbow]

Hi!
I'm working on a mod for Project Zomboid that is supposed to make certain melee weapons not lose durability when attacking zombies, but still lose durability when hitting objects like doors or windows.

However, the mod doesn't seem to work as expected, and it's even throwing an error during runtime.
I'm not sure where the problem is, so I'd really appreciate any help or suggestions!

Thanks in advance!

[silent zealot]

function: Add -- file: NoZombieWear.lua line # 22 | MOD: ZombieSafeWeapons

java.lang.RuntimeException: Object tried to call nil in Add

First question: what is NoZombieWear.lua line 22 doing?

"tried to call nil in Add" means you probably have an issue with something being nil instead of a valid object, so look at line 22 and think "what could be nil here that should have a value?"

Unfortunately the copy-paste you did makes it a bit of guesswork as to the line numbers.

[errant elbow]

a lot of the code was written with help from a friend, so I'm still learning how all of this works myself.

😦

[soft temple]

i feel dumb as hell yall i've combed thru this lua as much as i can I can't find where the stoves 'burn' the food I have no idea what file even has the stove functions T.T

[bronze yoke]

it's not going to be lua

[soft temple]

I kinda assumed there'd be a burned flag but does it just rename it and adjust it?

[bronze yoke]

it just sets a flag on the item yeah

[silent zealot]

That's fine, we all had to start from not knowing how to code.

https://tenor.com/view/jake-adventure-time-sucking-sort-of-good-gif-22475109

[silent zealot]

I highly recommend getting ZomboidDecompiler and decompiling the java to use as a reference. https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Decompiling_game_code

There's a lot of stuff in there that you'd think whould have been lua (like a washing machine choosing what to clean)

[silent zealot]

Can you post the .lua file on it's own, or if the whole thing is in your previous paste indicate which line is line 22? There's a good chance someone can give more specific help.

[errant elbow]

here

[silent zealot]

try

instanceof(weapon, "HandWeapon")

with the quotes around HandWeapon

[errant elbow]

The core function of this mod is to prevent certain melee weapons from losing Condition and HeadCondition when attacking zombies, animals, and windows.

[silent zealot]

Since that function is expecting an object and a string that it can match up to a Java class from a list

[errant elbow]

got it

[silent zealot]

Without the quotes the second argument is the variable HandWeapon. which is probably not defined and is therefore nil

[errant elbow]

And new version is here

[silent zealot]

I think this needs quotes too:

local trackedWeapons = {
    [Base.BaseballBat] = true,
    [Base.HandAxe] = true,
}

so it would be

local trackedWeapons = {
    ["Base.BaseballBat"] = true,
    ["Base.HandAxe"] = true,
}

since you want the string "Base.BaseballBat" to be the key.

(or I may be wrong because there are a dozen slightly different syntaxes for tables in lua!)

[errant elbow]

OK

[silent zealot]

Is playergetLastHitZombie()defined somewhere else in the mod?

[bronze yoke]

it looks like the ai you used stripped out a lot of important characters

so the syntax is all messed up

[errant elbow]

How should I solve it

[silent zealot]

Short version: learn some basic LUA.

I asusme you're using AI to generate the code?

It's very difficult to help because we suggest a specific fix, and suddenly the code is completely restructured and works in a different way.

[errant elbow]

From some perspectives, ChatGPT is indeed one of the few friends I have.

[bronze yoke]

i don't approve of intentionally concealing your usage of ai either - you posted earlier that you had used ai, and then deleted the message and posted a new one saying 'my friend'

[silent zealot]

That's fine, it just makes a big difference to how we can help.

[bronze yoke]

it's true that some people won't want to help with ai code, but it's also important context for people who still want to help

[errant elbow]

my fault

[silent zealot]

If I understand Vibe Coding correctly, the way to do it is just keep telling the AI what error is generated and asking it to fix the code until it eventually works.

[bright fog]

Yea which takes ages to do for PZ lol

[silent zealot]

...which sounds like a terrible workflow to me, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bright fog]

Yea it is

[silent zealot]

It's getting advertised as a job description now.

I think it sytarted as a joke, and managers/HR have taken it seriously 😦

[bright fog]

💀

[bronze yoke]

it'll die off quickly when managers realise they're paying people to do literally nothing

[silent zealot]

TIS should hire a vibe coder to rework zomboid's code to use blockchain.

oh god I feel so dirty saying that

even as a joke

[bronze yoke]

ai bros say stuff like this and think it means anything

[bright fog]

Anyway basically what Albion said. AI currently can't mod PZ and I've yet to see a functional mod made fully from an AI

Codes made by AI can be noticed fairly easily most of the time. A single completely imaginary function and that's pratically an instant sign of AI usage

The important part is learning that, that AI currently in any shape or form just can't make your work if you don't know your work already. And it won't be amazing at teaching you from 0 either, you need to get started with learning how to mod PZ before starting to use AI and AI shouldn't be used to write PZ code

[silent zealot]

I'm going to cross that out now and pretend it never happened

[bright fog]

Jesus that's terrifying

[silent zealot]

I had my first successful use of AI to code yesterday! Hacking together a quick cheat engine table I can never remember WTF is going on with floating point operations so I asked it how to do movss [rbx+rax*8],xmm6 only if the value in register xmm6 was bigger than [rbx+rax*8]

...then I had to doublecheck it all anyway because you can't just write to a random register and hope it's not soing something important, you really need to check that sort of thing...

...and then I found that I could have just swapped the two things because the floating point compare comiss xmm6, [rbx+rax*8] is perfectly valid but you can't have a memory address as the first argument. So... half points to ChatGPT I guess.

[nimble creek]

Why my mod dont show up in the mod list? I uploaded it to the workshop? B42.7

[lavish zenith]

I think I might be going mad.None of these recipes are showing up. I copied and pasted the third one directly from another mod that was working but is not active.

    {
    Water;10,
    Salt;5,
    PopBottleEmpty/WaterBottleEmpty,

    Result:Disinfectant,
    Time:100.0,
    Category:Survivalist,
    }

    recipe Make Disinfectant
    {
    Water=10,
    Salt=10,
    PopBottleEmpty/WaterBottleEmpty,

        Result:Disinfectant,
        Time:50.0,
        Category:Survivalist,
    CanBeDoneFromFloor: True,
    }

    recipe Make DisinfectantEC
    {
        Water;5,
        Salt;5,
        PopBottleEmpty/WaterBottleEmpty,

        Result:Disinfectant,
        Time:100.0,
        Category:Survivalist,
        NeedToBeLearn:true,
        CanBeDoneFromFloor: True,
    }

[silent zealot]

This is a mod you made?

[nimble creek]

Yes

[silent zealot]

Don't subscribe to your own mod, that ends up with two copies (one downloaded by Steam, one in your Workshop folder)

And was it showing up before the steam upload?

[nimble creek]

no, not at all,

thats why i tried upload to the workshop

[terse charm]

When I put the mod into the mods folder of Zomboid inside steam it does not show up.
Have you put it in C:/User/Zomboid/mods?

[silent zealot]

Check console.log for any errors around recipes, or any exceptions.

Check debug mode's recipe list too in case the recipe is in game but your character isn't showing it for some reason

[silent zealot]

Get it working first, then upload to steam workshop

Where is your mod located?

Do you have both a 42 and a common folder in it

[nimble creek]

C:\Users\Freeman\Zomboid\mods\MakeshiftGuitarAmp

Its a buildable noise maker mod what i am trying to do

[silent zealot]

Is there a mod.info in one of those, and what are the contents?

[nimble creek]

yes

mod.info description:

name=Craftable Guitar Amp
id=MakeshiftGuitarAmp
description=A handmade guitar amplifier that attracts zombies with noise.
poster=poster.png

[silent zealot]

Doesn't matter what the mod does, showing up in the mod list is just a matter of correct folder structure and a valid mod.info

What directory is that mod.info in?

[nimble creek]

I have the example mod at the same older, and that did not sow up too

[silent zealot]

(also, good mod idea)

[nimble creek]

I dont know why, back then B41-i do see example mod in the mod list...

[silent zealot]

Are you on B41 or B42?

[nimble creek]

B42.7 right now

[silent zealot]

Is there a 42 folder in C:\Users\Freeman\Zomboid\mods\MakeshiftGuitarAmp

Is there a common folder in C:\Users\Freeman\Zomboid\mods\MakeshiftGuitarAmp

And where is mod.info?

[nimble creek]

mod.info is in the C:\Users\Freeman\Zomboid\mods\MakeshiftGuitarAmp

42-folder is needed?

[silent zealot]

That is for B41

Yes

See sticky posts in the channel

[nimble creek]

Thanks for helping me

[silent zealot]

Short version: make a folder called 42 and put everything in there

Make a folder called common, it can be empty but has to exist

[nimble creek]

Its working now 🙂, (at least shows up in the modlist)

Now i have to test what chatgpt did with the code:D

Add a 3d prop

i already have some planed

This mod.info file have to be in multiple folder?

[silent zealot]

Only if you want the mod to work on B41 as well

Due to bugs a few things only work on the 42 folder, not common, so most modders are putting everything in there

There's not really much value to the new structure right now unless you're crazy enough to want to support multiple versions of B42 instead of just the latest one, but it will help when B43 comes out.

[nimble creek]

B43 will come that soon? 🙂

[silent zealot]

No, this is for when your grandchildren make mods.

"A society grows great when old men improve functionality in whose features they shall never code" - Ancient Greek proverb,

[topaz tangle]

Don’t think any ancient Greeks said that

[thin swan]

Aristotle wrote recursive functions while still wiping his ass with clay plates

[silent zealot]

It's a well known fact that the counting system used by the Roman Empire had no way to represent zero, which left them unable to determine when their programs had finished executing successfully.

[bronze yoke]

it was called the halting problem

[silent zealot]

Lucky AI has solved that for us.

Yep, defnitely 100% solved.

AI makes everything so easy.

[topaz tangle]

👎

[silent zealot]

Rebuttal:

Sorry everyone I've forgotten how to code properly and will have to resort to old fashioned methods like "have a vague plan and some basic knowledge of how coding works, then bash the keyboard until it works."

(I sure as heck am not paying money to code with ChatGPT!)

[strange cobalt]

Hi guys, could someone please tell me how to animate shotgun model to be functional in game? I know how to render and do other important stuff but i cannot manage how to animate that shotgun. If I need to use parent and use armatures to make it work. Iam kinda new to this stuff and saviour would be welcome, it would be sufficient to send me link to some acient forum that i haven't found. Thanks

[thin swan]

Hello there! How are you implementing the shotgun? Are you basically just duplicating the current shotgun weapon script and putting in your own model? Or do you have have custom animations for holding/shooting it as well?

If you want it to use just the base animations that already exists for the vanilla shotgun then you don't really have to do anything at all in terms of animating the shotgun, you just have to make sure it's exported properly and set up with a weapon script that mimics the vanilla shotgun.

If you want to actually use custom animations for reloading/holding/equipping/shooting the shotgun then you just animate the right hand prop since that's the default bone that weapons attach to.
I can give more info on custom animations if that's what you're looking to do.

[silent zealot]

Is this a new shotgun model you're adding? And do you mean "animate" as in the actions the character does, or do you want to actually animate bits of the shotgun so they move about?

[thin swan]

Yeah also important distinction, because currently it's not known how to animate the individual parts of a weapon while it's held and used.

[silent zealot]

Good timing for your question, Alex is probably the most experienced at animating "weapons" after his the skateboard/kickscooter/bicycle mods.

Do any vanilla weapons animate? The double barrel breaks open for reloading, but that is probably just a model swap during the reload action.

[strange cobalt]

Thanks for the fast response. I wouldnt waste much time animating my hotgun in complete new way. I would just use Vanilla anims to make it pump after shooting. i will post screenshot of my model just in case, and if you be so kind and just tell me what to do, I've already wasted much of my sanity

[thin swan]

Yeah it just switches to a different model. I've been trying to find any item that has animations while held, so far haven't found one. I thought maybe the fishing rod, but there's no visible line, and the bobber is a 2d sprite so no luck there

[bronze yoke]

items are never animated

[thin swan]

That looks good to me. How is your weapon script setup?

[bronze yoke]

some gun mods fake it by toggling weapon part models

[silent zealot]

The pump could do the same thing - swap to a model with the pump back.

That's more animated than any vanilla pump action shotgun.

[strange cobalt]

Where i can send it?

[silent zealot]

To be honest, at the level of zoom you're playing at it's not very noticable... that's why weapons get away with the ka-chunk racking sound and no animation.

We'd need "heroic scale" proportions to be able to see the details well,like some tabletop miniatures games/RTS/ARPGs use.

And that is not going to look good if only one mod does it.

[bronze yoke]

if you didn't even know the vanilla shotgun wasn't animated, that's proof that it doesn't matter

[thin swan]

You can copy paste it in here, just do three backticks before and after the code, so for example:
``` your code here ```

[strange cobalt]

If you mean script as a item specs here it is

[thin swan]

I've been thinking about making a bow and arrow mod using a method like this. undrawn bow is one mesh with string straight, drawn bow has string pulled. I could have it be one handed so the bow is animated using prop1, and when you equip the bow it automatically equips an arrow in your left hand which I then animate with prop2 so I can make a grab from quiver animation and have it look like it's being pulled back

[thin swan]

Hmm yeah that looks correct. What is the issue you're having with it? Does the model not display at all?

[strange cobalt]

Thanks guys, I've learned to much. So youre telling me I should just leave it be and add it into the game as it is? No parenting and armatures needed like in other games or edit my script to change models(if it is possible)?

[strange cobalt]

Yes, it does

I just want my character to pump it and my shotgun pump to move after being shot/after empty mag *reload

[thin swan]

As long as you're just using vanilla animations you don't have to do anything other than making sure your model is exported at the right size and position/rotation, which from the looks of your blender it is

[thin swan]

Ah okay, to animate the pump is a bit more tricky, you will basically have to make one model that has the pump in neutral position and one when it's pumped back, and then you have to switch between those two models between shots. So it won't actually be animated, just a visual trick.

For the character to just move their hand as if they're pumping, it should work with just the vanilla pump shotgun animation.

[strange cobalt]

This is what i have been looking for, very nice. So any advice how to do it?

Oh, I get it now. Thanks for your time guys, you're very helpful and saved me some sanity.

[silent zealot]

Crossbow would be an easy starting point, but until we have a way to launch projectiles that aren't bullets it's not going to be very satisfying.

[thin swan]

Yeah crossbow is a lot easier for sure, could basically just make it a rifle and use vanilla animations

But bow would be so satisfying 😄 Maybe the projectile aspect could be cheated a bit by making a new bullet tracer effect that is just a long dark brown line. Not sure how that system works though, might not be accessible to mod in Lua

[silent zealot]

And put a bolt or broken bolt in the inventory of any zombie killed.

[thin swan]

Yeah! good idea

[silent zealot]

very sure that is in java

[thin swan]

Feels like a java thing for sure

[silent zealot]

And given how all over the place the aiming system has been, not a place worth trying to mod.

[thin swan]

Low-key been wanting to make an MMA mod, just a bunch of custom animations that are triggered by different hotkey combinations

[silent zealot]

Hopefully devs rmember they were excited about converting other throwables to physics aiming.

[thin swan]

Oooooh, I think I might make a quick one-off mod that adds a dropkick

[silent zealot]

hahahaha

autokill zombie, but leave player prone?

[thin swan]

Haha I was thinking 100% knockdown chance, but takes a second to get back up

[silent zealot]

As useful as sprint-charge with a spear

Make a full on pro-wresting mod.

[thin swan]

Oh fuck

That would be fun

[silent zealot]

hahaha

[thin swan]

Make the chairs and ladders equippable weapons

[silent zealot]

grapple with opponents that will kill you with one bite lol

hahahah

[thin swan]

What can go wrong?

[silent zealot]

Sledgehammers everwhere, but when you use them in combat you short-handle them and do no damage.

[queen oasis]

we're cooked now

[silent zealot]

I'm putting zero effort into supporting modded multiplayer

[soft temple]

vibe coding is cool an all, but it makes things SOOO much more difficult, can make a 4 hour project take days because the llm is trying to solve for syntax by writing 100s of lines of debug junk. I use it for bug checking my shit sometimes but you've gotta take it's code with a grain of salt for the most part it's a crutch that can make things worse.

[silent zealot]

Out of curiosity I asked chatgpt to make a Zomboid mod to increase headlight distance, and it hallucinated four very useful looking functions to do this.

[queen oasis]

I'm perfectly capable of turning a 4 hour project in to a days long project all by myself

[silent zealot]

Good point, if I need someone to try random stuff until something works I can do that myself.

[queen oasis]

I tried qwen locally and lemme tell you, I wish I saved that code because it was an absolute mess

I'll code myself right in to a wall and then spend 4 hours staring at it wondering where I went wrong

[silent zealot]

I did get working code when I told it to make a zomboid mod that does something, I didn't care what just make it work.

But that's a lot of GPU time to put "Hello World!" into the console log.

[queen oasis]

I might run a local llm again this winter to keep my feet warm

my poor little 3080 was screaming in pain

[silent zealot]

I feel like I'm stuck with a 3060 12GB for a few more years looking at the mess (and price) that is nvidia's 5000 range.

[soft temple]

they're fun i used to keep one spun up regularly but i'm behind CGNAT now and can't figure out how to expose the proper ports for me to use my home LLM.

[queen oasis]

My wife is still rocking my old 2070 super. That thing is a beast.

[queen oasis]

I used ollama with 7g qwen and continue for vscode. It was easy to setup but I didn't see the usefulness of it. I can f up my own code

[soft temple]

oh i don't use mine for code most the time, i was letting them 'live' in a node.js mud i was working on

had them 'wacthing' movies and listening to music via subtitle tracks and kareoke lyrics

[queen oasis]

I asked it to check my code for any optimizations and it spat out some 5.4 code. I told it "no goto's, this is 5.1" so it came up with a goto function that took in a function as an arg and then called that function.
I was done at that point.

killed at least 12 trees for that one

[soft temple]

"we have goto at home"

either it's too early or i'm too stoned. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get this thing to play sounds.

[queen oasis]

what thing are you trying to get to play sounds?

and it's too early to be too stoned

sawed my first log in 42... can you only saw one log at a time now?

[brave halo]

Hi everyone! 👋

I'm working on my first local mod for Build 42, and I'm trying to implement a manual save/load system, like classic single-player games. I managed to make the mod appear in-game and even added a button in the ESC menu using Lua, but I’m having trouble triggering and debugging the Lua code (no print() or UIManager:queueMessage() is showing anything so far).

I wrote a detailed post with screenshots on Reddit:
🔗 https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1k62k5t/need_help_with_my_first_project_zomboid_mod_build/

Any tips or examples would be greatly appreciated – I’m new to Lua and learning as I go. Thanks so much in advance 🙏

[soft temple]

food items, mod i'm making makes stovetops useful, so far it can cook, and burn food but i can't figureout how to get/play the sounds from the fooditems

Like i know each food item has a cooking sound i just keep getting nil everytime i try to pull the sound

[queen oasis]

did you set up your sound script?

[soft temple]

i'm trying to use the built in sounds, thought maybe i could bypass that

[queen oasis]

that should be fine. are you triggering it on an event or with playSound()

[soft temple]

for dx = -1, 1 do
for dy = -1, 1 do
local sq = cell:getGridSquare(px + dx, py + dy, pz)
if sq then
for i = 0, sq:getObjects():size() - 1 do
local obj = sq:getObjects():get(i)
getSoundManager():PlaySound(obj.getCookingSound(), false, 0.5);
if instanceof(obj, "IsoStove") and obj:Activated() then
local heatFactor = getStoveHeatFactor(obj)
local worldObjects = sq:getWorldObjects()

Play sound but i'm fairly certain it's how i'm trying to get the sound

[queen oasis]

I'm pretty basic, I would square:playSound("sound")

[soft temple]

but like, soup

some objects boil some objects fry, how would i go about getting the right sound if i'm not obj.getCookingSound()?

like item:PlaySound("FryingFood", false, 0.5); should work right?

[queen oasis]

I'm not sure 'item' would have a playSound. if your object is a food item, you 'should' be able use getCookingSound

have you tried printing obj.getCookingSound to see what it's returning?

maybe throw some checks in there too, like "if instanceof(obj, "Food") then"
you can also use script manager to get the sound I believe

[queen oasis]

this is fun. run RecipeTestOne("whatever") and if it fails, your player inventory disappears

[brave halo]

Hey! Still trying to figure out how to trigger custom buttons from Lua in the ESC menu for Build 42.
My mod shows up in-game and the structure is fine, but I can’t debug OnGameStart or print().
Anyone got a working Lua UI mod example or some tips on where to hook into the menu?

[thin swan]

What happens if you write a function that you pass to Events.OnKeyPressed.Add(customKeyPress)?
Your customKeyPress could look like

  print("Key pressed: " ..tostring(key))
end```

I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure that this is still triggered in the ESC menu. You should see the message logged in the debug after closing ESC menu.

[brave halo]

Thanks Alex! 🙌 That’s super helpful — I hadn’t thought about testing with key input like that. I’ll try using OnKeyPressed and see if I get any output in the debug log. If that works, at least I’ll know the Lua file is loading properly!
Really appreciate the tip

[bright fog]

Wat

[frank elbow]

Part of the setup for that is to clear the inventory

Presumably the same for the "unit tests" in the b42 debug menu (or at least one of them)—found that out when exploring that

[queen oasis]

I didn't look in to it because it seems like a debug thing. but you better be sure it's there.

I know this crafting system is giving me a headache. doesn't help I keep getting distracted.

I might have to roll my own recipe for "saw all logs" since the crafting menu seems to only want to do them one by one, even when crafting "max"

[thin swan]

I think you could do it with an onComplete callback, where it checks if you clicked max, and when you complete sawing one log it checks if you still have logs in the inventory then just perform the crafting again.

[slim swan]

Does anyone know how to set hotkeys in-game? I want to set them through a UI instead of using ModOptions.

[granite ginkgo]

first test

[topaz tangle]

Not a difficult fix!
Just move the model around aswell as the wheels

[granite ginkgo]

Yeah, ik, but there's more to it

[topaz tangle]

Aye could still be worse

[granite ginkgo]

Yeah

[terse charm]

Hey, I might need some help in here, since I've done know 4 hours of debugging and my brains stops working:

function get_perks(player)
    local list_perks = PerkFactory.PerkList
    local player_perks = {}

    for i = 0, list_perks:size() - 1 do
        local perk = list_perks:get(i)
        local perk_type = perk:getType()
        local player_perk_xp = player:getXp():getXP(perk_type)
        if perk then
            print("adding perk "..tostring(perk_type))
            player_perks[perk] = player_perk_xp
        else
            print("error (nil) - skipping perk "..tostring(perk_type))
        end
    end
    return player_perks
end

local function OnPlayerAttackFinished(player, weapon)
    print("dbg1")
    local perks = get_perks(player);
    print("dbg2")
    print("printing perklist: "..tostring(perks))
    for perk, xp in pairs(perks) do 
        if perk then
        print("perk not nil")
    end
    print("dbg3 "..tostring(perk).." "..tostring(xp))
    if xp > 0 then
        print("dbg4")
        player:getXp():addXP(perk, xp)
    end
    end
    print("dbg5")
end```


It throws error "nil"  after dbg4.
"Object tried to call nil in OnPlayerAttackFinished"

running the "get_perks" function throws no error, adds all perks without problem.
the loop mostly goes until the first perk with xp appears (like here Axe)

Any ideas?
How can something be nil when I check before?

[knotty hornet]

Hey all! Im looking for a way to create a mod to replace the generic audio that plays over the TV and possibly the radio. It irks me that the audio is audible enough to clearly not be talking about what is being said. I have VO experience and am more than willing to VO the lines if someone can help me replace them as a mod?

[fleet bridge]

Not capital XP in AddXp I think

Sorry the a should be capital. AddXP

[terse charm]

Capital is right actually.
Copied from game folder

[fleet bridge]

Yours is lower case addXP

[terse charm]

This is insane.
Thanks for fixing four hours of thinking.

[topaz tangle]

I fixed my suspension on my vehicles finally: :3

[silent zealot]

just add print("file foo.lua loading complete") to the very end of the file outside any functions. But if a lua file fails to load it will show in console.log with an error (usually a silly syntax error that completely stops the file loading, at least when I'm the coder)

[silent zealot]

Look into mods with fully voiced radio stations, like "survivor radio"

Or more likely: Broadcast Voicer: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2973493897

Actually recording all the lines, processing them into the sound files and linking up all the guids is a lot of work, but shouldn't be technially challenging - just extremely tedious.

[silent zealot]

Do you use VSCode or a similar IDE? It will give a lot of little helpful notifiers such as "undeclared global" when you typo a variable name.

Add in the Umbrella plugin and it also has a lot of awareness of Zomboid's available functions/objects

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[trim skiff]

hello,im curious, is there a mod to count and located all the items in the pz world. so i can track down massive amount of item in a container anywhere on the pz world

[silent zealot]

I'm not aware of any such mod, and it would be a massive amount of data to track.

[trim skiff]

yeah, but it really helpfull for server admin. so i thought somebody might have created it. lol

[silent zealot]

Hotkeys are just a variable, and when a key is pressed you check "if keypressed == myHotKeyVariable"

[slim swan]

Is there a way to detect the name of the pressed key? I’m in 42 and getKeyName doesn’t work.

[silent zealot]

So you can set them any way you set a variable. You probably want to set them to something in the Keybaord global instead of using numeric values; run for k,v in pairs(Keyboard) do print(k) end to see all the possible values for Keyboard.KEY_SOMETHING

[slim swan]

Thank you! I also found the relevant information in wiki. https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Keyboard

[soft temple]

is there a decent video or tutorial explaining the soundManager? I don't think i'm understanding emitters

[dense goblet]

I'm trying to do a simple client->server command and I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong. VERY new to zomboid mods:

client\mymodclient.lua

print("[mymodclient] client file loading....")
// ...
local function trySpawnZombie()
    print("Sending server command")
    sendServerCommand("MyMod", "Command", {})
end
// ...
print("[mymodclient] client file loaded.")

server\mymodserver.lua

print("[mymodserver] server file loading....")
// ...
local function onClientCommand(module, command, playerObj, args)
    print("onClientCommand")
end

Events.OnClientCommand.Add(onClientCommand)
// ...
print("[mymodserver] server file loaded.")

I self host a game and the console outputs:

[mymodclient] client file loading....
[mymodclient] client file loaded.
[mymodserver] server file loading....
[mymodserver] server file loaded.
Sending server command

but I never see a console.txt line with "onClientCommand"

[bronze yoke]

check coop-console.txt for server log

console.txt is only the client log (server files do run on the client which is why you are seeing some of the prints)

[dense goblet]

it IS THERE!! thank you

[bronze yoke]

if you don't want the server files to run on the client (generally preferable since you specifically wanted them on the server) you can add to the start of your file if isClient() then return end to exit the file immediately on the client

[bright fog]

I should redo this screenshot with a more obvious example

[bright fog]

No not really and the problem is that you can't access data of items if the tiles they are in are not loaded

[dense goblet]

Well hell no matter what I do I can't see my own message when self hosting... Do I not need lua in server when self hosting?

[bronze yoke]

the client should send a client command, not a server command

the commands are named after the sender

[dense goblet]

client -> server is sendClientCommand -> onClientCommand and server -> client is sendServerCommand -> onServerCommand ?

[bronze yoke]

yeah

[dense goblet]

man scratching my head for 2.5 hours on this haha

is there any good documentation on this? I looked at the wiki and see the java objects, but no real like detailed documentaiton

[bronze yoke]

for this game the general answer to that question is 'no'

the wiki's the best place, it has links to a lot of resources on this page https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding and there's some stuff actually on the wiki now

but there is no real large scale documentation for modding

[bright fog]

Currently the modding wiki is still in development and as such you won't find a lot of stuff

Also I'm not making pages for B41 stuff

It's a loss of time

Especially for things that we don't know if it'll change or not with B42

[silent zealot]

You can get 100% accurate documentation by decompiling the Java files and opening them up alongside all the lua and txt files.

I wouldn't call it "good" documemtation though.

[thin swan]

Well hmm... Should I try making a boat? If I make it equip as a clothing item you could still equip a fishing rod 🤔

[silent zealot]

kayak?

[thin swan]

oooh yeeeah

I was thinking row boat, but kayak would be dope

[silent zealot]

Back to the Future hoverboard is already done as a mod for your mod.

kayak better fits the "wearable" design IMO

rowboat should be a vehicle.

[thin swan]

Yeah I agree, I could even make the paddle a weapon that you have to have equipped along with the kayak in order to move

[bright fog]

You found a proper way to walk on the water tho ?

[thin swan]

Not sure about proper, and it might not be possible, but figured I'd find a way to enable the godmode noclip thing while boat is equipped and the tile under is water

Seems setGhostMode or something like that should work

But I need to play around with it to see if it does what I think it does lol, you never know

[bright fog]

The cheats can't be activated without debug mode activated in B42 I believe ?

[thin swan]

Ah that's a problem if so

Hmm, maybe it's possible to hook into some functions and just override the isDebugEnabled() checks. Wishful thinking though

[silent zealot]

Speaking of hoverboats...

[bright fog]

You can't hook to things that are only triggered java side tho

[silent zealot]

Aquatsar did it in B41 for "swimming"

[bright fog]

I believe the way the game checks for debug mode is completely different in the java

[bright fog]

What they did it is they made the tiles passable I believe

[sonic needle]

updating the water tileproperties could work?...

[thin swan]

Yeah was hoping maybe there was something Lua side that could be manipulated

[bright fog]

Yeah that's what tsar did if I remember right

[thin swan]

Not a bad idea

[silent zealot]

If you make them passable then you need to implement swimming, not just kayaking

otherwise it will be weird when everyone can walk on water.

[thin swan]

I don't think I'm gonna do it anytime soon tbh, it's gonna be too much work. Would rather just focus on making the other mods better 😄

[brave bone]

https://tenor.com/view/harrypotter-chamberofsecrets-ron-reckless-car-gif-3521694

[thin swan]

Hmm, what if I make a new custom tile that acts as a floor, but it's invisible, and then if I have the boat equipped and I try to go on a water tile, it automatically builds my custom floor tile so it allows me to walk on it.
Would just need to make a good system for spawning and removing the tiles, but shouldn't be crazy hard right?

[silent zealot]

Will probably make you lurch to a stop every tile.

[strange gorge]

Oh, does B42 already have car ramps?

[silent zealot]

Debug mode.

[thin swan]

I was thinking it would build in a 3x3 radius around the player

[strange gorge]

Oh, nice, do are they planning to have them in the actual map in B42 release? Or are you just playing around with it for the sake of it?

[silent zealot]

I'm sure they showed off a parking garage at one point.

[bright fog]

No just dynamically update the needed tiles like Tsar does

[silent zealot]

Can't drive from a ramp to flat tiles.

[bright fog]

Wdym you can't ?

You could on unstable release

Try different vehicles

[silent zealot]

just hits the end of the ramps and stops. Tried two, no luck for either. fast and slow.

[bright fog]

Uh

[silent zealot]

I might have picked two cars that don't work with ramps, I didn't try any vanilla cars.

[sour island]

I assume that's not a vanilla location?

Could be related to Z levels? maybe the tiles right after the ramp need some kind of special flag

[silent zealot]

Vanilla location, but I spawned the ramps and tiles.

Not worth putting a lot of effort into when it's clear ramps aren't supposed to be done yet.

[sour island]

Are there no vanilla ramps yet?

Stairs had a similar issue (unsure if it was fixed) where you (on foot) couldn't cross from 1 set to the next (side to side)

Making wide stairs not really functional

[bright fog]

That's still the case I believe

Anyway that doesn't sound like the same issue

[bright fog]

Try vanilla cars
Some cars are lower than others and don't react the same with ramps

[silent zealot]

Still the case in 42.7

The "don't fall off the side of the stairs" barriers don't account for putting two staircases side-by-side.

[dry isle]

Hi everyone! I'm currently working on a mod for Build 42 that adds a perk to the game. This perk gives a new character a custom melee weapon upon spawning, with completely new attack mechanics such as faster and cancelable LMB attacks, powerful charged attacks, and parrying instead of pushing...

I've spent 3 weeks coding and haven't made much progress — so far, I’ve only managed to get the perk to show up and give existing in-game weapons, but not the custom one. Are mods like this even possible in this game? Because in the entire history of the game, I haven’t seen a single mod that does something similar...

I’m looking for any kind of advice or help that could get me unstuck. I can share all the current files and error logs if needed.

I’d be truly grateful for ANY help.

[fleet bridge]

Probably best to study an existing mod that attempts to do the same. I believe dhert's brutal handiwork mod does something with the combat system?

[dry isle]

Strange that I missed this mod. Huge thanks! Time to take it apart piece by piece...

[thin swan]

It's possible, but you will have to mess around with the animsets and custom animations if you don't want to use existing ones.
To make attacks faster you would just increase the speed scale of the animation. To make it cancelable you'd have to make a hotkey that when enabled will interrupt the animation. I think there's a way to do it without messing with animsets, but it should for sure work if you make it so when you press the hotkey it changes a variable that is checked in your animation, and if that variable is changed then the animation cancels.

Were you planning on making custom animations for these, or just use existing ones from vanilla and just manipulate how they're played/used?

[dry isle]

I’ve got the full concept in my head — complete with flashy custom animations and effects I still plan to create. But first, I just want to get the core idea working with vanilla animations. One step at a time!

[thin swan]

Ah okay gotcha, it will be easier if you set up a bunch of custom animsets, so you should play with those

[dry isle]

Is it easier to get custom animations working with custom items than using vanilla animations with custom items?

[thin swan]

They will be implemented the same, but vanilla animations might not look good with a custom item.
But if your custom weapon looks similar to a vanilla weapon then you could use the vanilla ones with no issues.
For example if you're making a different looking sword, then you could just use the animations that exist for the current sword.

[dry isle]

Yeah, I want to bring a bit of that Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice spirit into zombie apocalypse survival. 😄

[thin swan]

haha hell yeah! One of my all time favorite games 😄

You're definitely gonna want some custom animations then. There's no very up-to-date guide on custom animations in B42, but I hope to have time to make one pretty soon, like in the next week or so.

[dry isle]

Hands down the best in its genre!😍

[dry isle]

There could be two versions of the mod — one with totally overpowered mechanics, and another that gives the experience of a 'lone shinobi' in a post-apocalyptic world, with built-in breathers after attack combos or other mechanics to increase the challenge, like requiring rare materials to repair the katana.

[dull moss]

#mod_development message this and 4 msgs under

[lavish zenith]

How do I get my mod/patch see a different mod for items or to override recipes? I thought it was just a matter of load order but I must be mistaken.

[bronze yoke]

if you're in b41 using the recipe override: thing, you just need to make your file alphabetically later than the one that has the recipe you're overriding

for anything else it should just work regardless of load order

[lavish zenith]

Does the local mod folder not see the Steam mod folder then?

[queen oasis]

there has got to be a better way to check if you can craft a recipe. I mean, holy ifthenfordo. Is there something akin to 'canCraftThisRecipe(sawlogsrecipe)' I'm missing? or better yet, getRecipesWithOutputItem("Plank") would be neato

if instanceof(o:getItem(), "InventoryItem") then
    local recipes = CraftRecipeManager.getUniqueRecipeItems(o:getItem(), playerObj, containers)
    if recipes then
        for i = 0, recipes:size() - 1 do
            if clickedFlags.sawRecipe then break end
            local recipe = recipes:get(i)
            for j = 0, recipe:getOutputs():size() - 1 do
                local resultItems = recipe:getOutputs():get(i):getOutputMapper():getResultItems()
                for k = 0, resultItems:size() - 1 do
                    if resultItems:get(k):getName() == "Plank" then
                        print("Planks are delicious!")
                        clickedFlags.canSawPlanks = true
                        clickedFlags.sawRecipe = recipe
                        break
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end
end

[thin swan]

There's canPerformCurrentRecipe() on the HandCraftLogic

[queen oasis]

CraftRecipeManager.getUniqueRecipeItems is nice enough to return the recipes you can craft with what is immediately available, but then I need to dig to get to the outputs and check if it's a plank. unless I'm missing something?

trying to future proof this thing. I guess I could stick with just the SawLogs recipe

[thin swan]

Are you basically trying to do a catch-all for all recipes that outputs planks, or you just want to be able to check if the saw logs recipe can be performed?

[queen oasis]

I'm trying to get all recipes that output planks

just seeing that staircase of "end" makes me sad

[thin swan]

Ah okay, gotcha, I thought you just wanted to be able to quickly check if you meet all requirements to craft a specific recipe

[pulsar osprey]

Anyone have any Superpower Mods in development?

[bright fog]

No one does

The true heros are the one that simply just try to mod 😎

[hybrid edge]

Anyone with experience with PZ models able to shed some light on a fairly simple question?

[sharp umbra]

is there a way to increase the washer/dryer speed with a mod?

[proud temple]

Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to implement automatic wipe of houses?

I've seen this feature on various servers, but I don't think it's listed as a workshop mod.

[bright fog]

Wdym wipe ?

For loot you mean ?

That's a sandbox option

Vanilla

Loot respawn

[proud temple]

I don't mean vanilla options

full wipe of the building, restoration of destroyed boxes, windows, doors, etc.

[granite ginkgo]

is the damn lib id damnlib both for b41 and b42?

[errant elbow]

Used ChatGPT O4-mini-high

[granite ginkgo]

name=BasicVan
id=Van
description="My Summer Car Van, the Hayosiko Pace from 1977!"
---Please report any bugs!---
poster=preview.png
icon=Icon.png
category=vehicle
require=\damnlib
versionMin=41.0.0
modVersion=1.0
author=Aeronava

Is there any problem with require line for B41?

Some say it does not work to enable the mod because it can't find damnlib, same script works on B42

[bright fog]

You shouldn't have \ in front

For B41

[granite ginkgo]

aight, appreciate it

[bright fog]

\ is needed for B42

[granite ginkgo]

such simple fix

[bright fog]

Also you probably shouldn't put 41.0.0 for the version

Even if I believe thqt's unused for B41

At least put the last B41 version

Bcs your mod won't work for 41.0.0 most likely lol

Tho that really doesn't matter anyway

[granite ginkgo]

yeah yr

[strange cobalt]

Hey guys, quick question. What defines the firerate of weapons in code? Iam using automatic pistol and I want it to shoot slower, what props should I edit in my code?

[thin swan]

I'm not 100% sure, but try editing the weapons MinimumSwingTime = 0.5, SwingTime = 0.5,.
Yes, guns use swing attacks and it makes complete sense, don't question it.

Some people using the bicycle and scooter mods are having a very strange bug that I'm struggling with.
The bicycle appears in the world when placed, but when equipped the model goes invisible. The animations play and it "works", you just can't see the bike. The skateboard and folded scooter works fine, but the unfolded scooter has the same issue as the bike.
Only two people so far have reported it, but I can't reproduce it no matter what.
Tried changing graphics options, accessibility settings, using controller etc.
One of them plays on a docked steam deck, the other I'm not sure if he is as well, waiting for him to respond.

The only difference between the skateboard and folded scooter, and the bicycle and unfolded scooter is that the former two are weapons and attach to Prop1, while the latter are containers and attach to Prop2.
But it's weird that it seems to work for majority users still.

I hope that switching the bike and scooter to weapons will resolve it, because I plan on doing that anyways. But I still want to try and figure out what could cause it

[strange cobalt]

Sadly, it does nothing. Also I tried to edit "RecoilDelay" = 0 to 0.5 and that just broke my models & props. Isn't there "swingrate" or "firerate" prop to change firerate?

[thin swan]

I think actually that the firerate is tied to the animation, there's <m_SpeedScale>singleShootSpeed</m_SpeedScale> in the AnimSets\player\ranged\handgun\HandgunDefault.xml.
Depending on whether or not this singleShootSpeed is fully Java controlled or not, your approach will be different.
If it's something that can be accessed in Lua and it's supported decently then there's probably a setter you can use.
If it's fully Java side, then you'd have to make your own animset that activates when you hold your gun, and change the speedScale variable to your own calculation.

[plush jackal]

Is there a tutorial on how to make a weapon mod? I want to try make 1 but I dont know where to start

[thin swan]

There's a few depending on what you want to do. Is it a firearm or melee weapon? Are you using custom animations or no?

[plush jackal]

firearm and ideally I want to try using custom animation

[thin swan]

For firearm this is the best guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898
For custom animations there's no up-to-date guide at the moment, but if you download https://github.com/Paddlefruit/ProjectZomboid_CommunityRig I can tell you how to set it up

[flat bluff]

Hello again folks.
I'm trying to add a function in build 41 that plays one of 10 random sounds when hitting with a specific blunt weapon.
For some reason they are not playing. Perhaps I have messed up the sound definitions.
Has someone here made something like this in the past ?

[plush jackal]

ay thanks man

I'll let you know once I have time to set it up

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Animation_guide

Unfinished if I remember right tho

But still decent

[strange cobalt]

Thanks Alex, I proclaim you as my sanity saviour. Now, i shall learn anims to make my gun P E R F E C T L Y scaved.

[thin swan]

Yeah true it has some good info in it. It's just missing some stuff if you're using paddlefruit's rig, which requires a bit of setup compared to Mystery's rig

[bright fog]

The setup needed is explained on the git page of the rig tho

[thin swan]

It assumes you have a bit of prior blender knowledge, Mystery rig opens with the NLA strips, keyframe recording and Auto IK already set up. Those have to be manually done when you open Paddlefruit's and if you don't have any Blender knowledge you'll have to do some googling

(auto IK as in the pose option)

[bright fog]

What

Paddle's got IK bones too. You will ALWAYS need Blender knowledge to animate it

Any rig you use

[thin swan]

Yeah not the IK bones, just the option to toggle auto IK on, it's disabled by default in paddlefruits and have to be enabled in the "Pose options" in the top right corner

[thin swan]

I get what you mean, but I had never used Blender before and when I tried Mystery Rig it was all there already set up, and the animation guide uses mystery rig so it was easy to follow along.
When I started using Paddlefruit's rig I had to google some stuff to be able to get the same UI setup as I had on mystery rig.

For a complete beginner to get started it's slightly easier with myster rig, but it's really only because of like 3 settings that needs to be toggled in paddlefruit's. The rig itself is excellent and very intuitive to use once you get into it

[bright fog]

What's auto IK ?

[thin swan]

It activates IK for the parent bone and the parent's parent etc, I think it just affects the arms, but I feel it's easier to work with it when enabled

[bright fog]

Hmm

[bright fog]

@vivid imp

Don't hesitate to give feedback directly to paddle

Also you can always fork it

[thin swan]

Oh yeah, I just didn't think it was that big of a deal, and as you say most people will have or want to have some blender knowledge before going in.
I was going to include a .blend file with everything set up when I make an animation tutorial

[vivid imp]

Dont enable auto ik! That just interferes with the already created ik

On the github it explains how to enable IK for the arms

[thin swan]

Ah okay, thanks for the info! I have been using it and it felt okay, but maybe I've just been lucky and haven't run into any bugs yet. I'm gonna disable it from now on

[thin swan]

Is it bad if I kind of prefer having FK on and using Auto IK? I feel it gives me so much control, and as long as I'm careful not to rotate things weirdly, I haven't really had any issues with it

[thin swan]

This issue was resolved by making the bicycle a weapon instead of container btw, super weird

[slim swan]

Does anyone know which file contains the game version display in the bottom right corner?

[frank elbow]

ISVersionWaterMark

[silent zealot]

For non-automatic weapon shoudl be RecoilDeelay. Reight click -> Edit in debug mode and you can tweak this to test.

For fully automatic, B42 is broken and just spews out pullets at an insane rate.

For burst fire, it doesn't seem to work at all. Don't use it; none of teh vanilla guns do.

[granite ginkgo]

Anyone else ever had problems with vehicle editing menu where it is all grey when accesing it and requires game restart???

[granite ginkgo]

I literally can't edit my vehicle bruh

anyone interested in helping me, maybe i can send the mod over and you can tell me if you encounter the same issue

Till then, I'll do a verify of installed files

[main pasture]

I think that happened to me with a vehicle script that tried to access body model that didn't exist, or something like that

[inland socket]

Does anyone know if it's possible to assign names to zombies and display them above their heads like it works for players in multiplayer? Or maybe someone has already made such a mod

[bright fog]

yes

What's your goal ?

[inland socket]

I want all zombies to have their own random name displayed above their heads. The dictionary of names is known in advance. If there is an example of a mod that does something like this, or code examples I would be grateful. Or at least a direction where to dig

[bright fog]

You've got many ways to do that

Either have custom nametag visuals

Or use addLineChatElement (which I wouldn't suggest tbf)

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Zomboid-Forge-B42/blob/master/Contents/mods/Zomboid Forge/42.1.0/media/lua/shared/ZomboidForge_core.lua#L298-L303

This is one of my mod where I do that

However it might be complex to retrieve the code that might interest you

I got a better example wait

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Check-Around/blob/main/Contents/mods/Check Around/42/media/lua/client/CheckAround.lua#L382-L388

[inland socket]

Thank you very much! I will check that

[distant fractal]

Does anyone know how difficult it would be to embed a commodore 64 emulator into the command line interface mod?

[bright fog]

@coarse sinew did a lot of UI stuff to add games in PZ

[granite ginkgo]

everything exists in model definitions

[granite ginkgo]

PS

[coarse sinew]

It's technically possible, but extremely complex to do inside Lua because of PZ's Lua environment limitations.

Why?
PZ Lua runtime doesn't include bitwise operations (bit, bit32, etc.) which most emulators heavily rely on, because emulating hardware like the C64 needs to manipulate bits a lot (e.g., shifting, masking, setting CPU flags).
PZ's Lua also doesn't allow native C libraries or external compiled modules, meaning you can't easily load a real emulator library like VICE or even something lightweight like fake6502 without rewriting huge parts manually.

Unless someone reimplements an extremely stripped down, integer-only C64 CPU core directly in pure Lua without bitwise ops (emulating bits using math), the emulator would either need to be fake (like a "simulation" running pre-coded scenes, not an actual CPU emulation) or you'd need to handwrite a minimal pseudo-emulator that interprets basic instructions manually. This would be super slow but possible if you only wanted to "simulate" some commands.

Realistically you'd need to build a custom Java mod to embed a Java-based C64 emulator. Because it's Java-side, this would require users to manually install the Java mod, it's not pure Lua, so it won't work automatically through Steam Workshop.

I'm currently working on a S.C.R.A.P. Terminal mod (name will probably change), basically a retro CRT-style terminal interface with modular apps (modules) like a lore database, admin tools, a directives system (server wide events) and a game module (I already implemented Snake, Tetris, Pac-Man, and a copy of Doom). It has CRT screen simulation (flicker, scanlines, dynamic UI with boot sequences, animations), custom sound manager for keyboard clicks, hums, etc. And it's extensible: you can register new terminal modules using an API (but you still have to write your own code to render the elements ...).

[inland socket]

Your code works like a charm, thank you! One more question, is there a way to get only visible zombies by the character view, as I seegetCell():getZombieList() returns not only visible

[fleet bridge]

getPlayer():getStats():getNumVisibleZombies()

[inland socket]

I need ArrayList<IsoZombie>, getNumVisibleZombies() returns int

[queen oasis]

you could check each zombie for isVisibleToPlayer(playerNum)
idk if there's a better/different way

[inland socket]

I will try, thanks!

[queen oasis]

getting there

[distant fractal]

Will this scrap terminal be available for B41? I’m very much looking forward to having a functioning computer in zomboid

[inland socket]

for some reason isVisibleToPlayer array is always nil

[queen oasis]

can you post your code?

[bronze yoke]

if you're expecting an array that's your first problem 😅

[coarse sinew]

Yup! It will be fully compatible with B41, including MP support, this being the main reason it's on B41.

[distant fractal]

Nice, any idea when it’ll be ready for the workshop?

Like sometime in the next couple months or is it still a long way from done?

[inland socket]

HandleVisuals = function(_)
  local zombieList = getCell():getZombieList()
  for i = 0, zombieList:size() - 1 do repeat
  local zombie = zombieList:get(i)        
  if zombie.IsVisibleToPlayer then
    print("not nil")
  end    
  until true end
end

Events.OnTick.Add(HandleVisuals)

[queen oasis]

if zombie:isVisibleToPlayer(playerIndex)
if you don't have the playerIndex you can use getPlayer():getPlayerNum() for testing
that's a hefty call for OnTick too

[coarse sinew]

It's a pretty complex project, between MP syncing, fixing texture rendering quirks and finding new methods for storing dynamic data efficiently, it's taken a lot of extra work. Right now I'm aiming for a preview build release in about 1–2 months for closed-testing on a server first. If that goes well, it'll move toward full release.

[bright fog]

I did find a way, it's in Zomboid Forge. Should be in OnTick

[bright fog]

https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Zomboid-Forge-B42/blob/0a6b97a5661a23bcc61292284ba25a39bc55f053/Contents/mods/Zomboid Forge/42.1.0/media/lua/shared/ZomboidForge_core.lua#L227

Here

[dry isle]

Hello Sir, do you perhaps have an API or something similar to load a custom item granter through a trait?

[inland socket]

You are my hero, it's working! TY

[dry isle]

I've been struggling with this error for two weeks already.

[granite ginkgo]

So I want to ask again, Grey bugged vehicle editor is duo to unexistent models or what?

because it worked once on same mod, now it won't anymore

because i checked and all models load, i really don't know what causes it

[lavish zenith]

Can I get a little help understanding "Override:true"? I thought I needed to copy and paste the original recipe exactly and just add Override:true before making a new entry with my recipe but it must not be working since both are showing up in game.

[main pasture]

I can try it now if you post it. I can't remember what I did to break it the same way before

[granite ginkgo]

i will post it then, but its really unfinished btw

[main pasture]

I think the broblem should be in the script

[granite ginkgo]

here

i thought u might need the model too

i found an issue with rear window i think

it should load in the gas tank but it does nothing

might be the issue

talking about the rear window

[bright fog]

nop

You want the item to be granted when creating a new character ?

Or when doing something ?

[dry isle]

When selecting a specific trait, the new character receives a custom melee weapon in their inventory.

OnNewSurvivor - doen´t work

OnCreatePlayer - doesn´t work

i´ll try OnPlayerLogin...

[bright fog]

There's an event when you create a new character

Looking for it

[bright fog]

Also that one should work as long as your code does in fact do what's needed to spawn a need item

[dry isle]

Looks okay so far...

[bright fog]

Maan that's a looooot of code that you shouldn't ever need

[dry isle]

😄

[bright fog]

You're doing sooooo many checks here that are just straight up not needed and will bloat your code if not slow it down for literally nothing

    -- Проверяем валидность объекта игрока (оставляем проверки на всякий случай)
    if not player or type(player) ~= "userdata" or not player.isPlayer or not player:isPlayer() or not player.getUsername or not player.HasTrait or not player.getInventory then
        print("KatanaMasterMod.OnPlayerLoginHandler: Invalid or incomplete player object received. Type: " .. type(player))
        return
    end

This is straight up bloat

[dry isle]

i´m ready to kill myself 🥹

joke

[bright fog]

Also make sure to clear all these prints when you release the mod, do not leave a single one

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_optimization#Prints_are_the_devil

See this

[dry isle]

Yeah

[bright fog]

Anyway give me a minute to verify your method to adding items to the player

[dry isle]

Ty!

[bright fog]

You managing to spawn the item from the debug menu ?

Code looks good

[dry isle]

I use this 😄

[bright fog]

Wdym you use this ?

[dry isle]

oups

wrong file

[dry isle]

This is for AOE damage on key

[bronze yoke]

you should not copy the original recipe, create a new recipe with the same name and put Override: true inside it

[bright fog]

So you manage to spawn the item in game from the debug menu ?

[bronze yoke]

recipes with multiple definitions (multiple recipes with the same name) cannot be overridden this way

[dry isle]

No, I didn´t tryed it yet

[dry isle]

You mean there can be an issue with custom item`?

[bright fog]

No just verifying that your item does in fact exist in the game

[dry isle]

Gimme a moment

[bright fog]

And the issue is not that you're trying to add an item that actually can't physically exist

I got my answer already

That's not needed

Anyway try doing that code on a completely different event

Like OnKeyPress or something like that, and see if it gives you your item

That way you can verify if the issue is the event or your item spawning

Imo the item spawning method looks good but I'm not familiar enough with it to recognize the proper way

I checked based on stuff I personally did and this looks good, from memory too

[dry isle]

Alright, I'll make the changes and try again!

[lavish zenith]

Thanks for the answer. So I only should need to copy the name and enter my version with Override : true to override it?

To remove a single recipe with no duplicates do I need just the name and add Obselete: true?

[bronze yoke]

yeah that's right, but keep in mind that also won't work if it has duplicates

[lavish zenith]

As the nuclear option, if a mod is not on lockdown and conflicts with other mods, is it appropriate to rewrite the pieces needed and incorporate it into the new mod and then credit the original author/modder?

Etiquette

[bright fog]

You can always make a patch to that mod instead

[lavish zenith]

That's part of what I am having trouble with. Mine doesn't seem to see theirs and is throwing errors.

They each work individually.

[bright fog]

Not sure what you mean

You need to require the original mod

And make sure to load the other mod first

[lavish zenith]

Can you clarify what you mean by require the original mod. Is that in the Steam setting or us there a part that needs to be done in my local folder too? Load order is set by name and double checked with mod manager.

[main pasture]

Removed static = FALSE, from every model definition and the editor works (for me at least)

[granite ginkgo]

Thanks, ill do it

[bright fog]

in the mod.info

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod.info

Check this page out

And require

[lavish zenith]

Thank you, I'll read it.

[bronze yoke]

the override is not dependent on mod load order or even requires

[main pasture]

It seems to have something to do with the models (or lack of them for me), because it works with the static line when the model is replaced with one from a vanilla vehicle

[granite ginkgo]

Seems like i do need it for animated parts, but i think i found it, the rear windows is not animated but it had static false, ill test it rn

[bronze yoke]

you might need to make your file alphabetically later than the original file that defines the recipe (script files load in alphabetical order and ignore mod load order)

[bright fog]

This doesn't apply to B42 tho does it ? Unless scripts still load like B41 ?

[bronze yoke]

scripts still load that way

and also they're talking about b41 recipes so

[bright fog]

👌

yea idk what they are trying to override anyway

[granite ginkgo]

getting somewhere

[queen oasis]

nice! I always thought that was for "get the zombies that see you"

[amber osprey]

I've got programming experience and I've certainly looked into modding this game before, just never got fully into it. How difficult is it? I know it uses Lua, I've got no experience with that, but I've made a few games from scratch before if that tells you what level programmer I am.

[thin swan]

Oh you should have a pretty easy time getting into it. There's some weird stuff here and there, and there's some restrictions on what you can do with Lua (some things are controlled in Java), but overall it's a fun time

[amber osprey]

Dope. All I need is an idea lol. Something will come to me when I'm playing

[thin swan]

Yeah that's the best way to get insipiration tbh 😄 Just play until something annoys you and you want to fix it

You could also check https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1075939080287834113

[silent zealot]

You'll be fine - if you have enough programming experience to understand the near-universal basics (variables, functions, flow control, local vs global variables) you'll manage lua.

The hardest part of code based zomboid mods is 1) figuring out where you need to make a change, and asking in here will often get you pointers to the bit you need and 2) coming up with elaborate workarounds when the thing you want to change is in java and not accessible in lua.

[amber osprey]

If the figuring out thing is related to unintelligable error messages, don't worry

They're my specialty

[silent zealot]

You'll fit right in with the zomboid code 😛

[amber osprey]

Bahaha

My code used to be so unreadable, I got so good at deciphering strange code just trying to refactor

[silent zealot]

useful non-obvious lua tip if you're coming from other languages: if you see a function named ObjectType:function(arg1, arg2) that is just a quick way to write ObjectType.function(self, arg1, arg2), where "self" is used as a variable passed around so you can fake object-oriented design.

[nimble yew]

heyy, TeachedRecipes in B42 now must refer to the <recipeID>?

ie, in B41 I have this working:

module FunctionalCarLift {
  item CarLiftMag {
    DisplayName = Carzone Commodities: Car Lift,
    DisplayCategory = SkillBook,
    Weight = 0.1,
    Type = Literature,
    Icon = CarLiftMag,
    TeachedRecipes = Craft Car Lift Column; Craft Car Lift Center,
    ReplaceOnUse = CarLiftMag,
    StaticModel = Magazine,
    WorldStaticModel = FunctionalCarLift.MagModel,
  }
}