mod_development

[thick karma]

I might have to do some performance testing

[calm depot]

I wouldn't worry about perf

you have no reason to be loading the JSON more than once per play, no?

[thick karma]

Right.

I would store it in mod data

[calm depot]

https://github.com/rxi/json.lua

[thick karma]

I am trying to figure out the appropriate time to load it from mod data actually.

I am wondering if I need to use GlobalModData or something

[calm depot]

parse the JSON eagerly, but lazy-load the current state in the case of a resumed game

[thick karma]

vs ModData

[calm depot]

you can afford to be lazy since PZ will have done all the work of populating the mod data anyway

as for function calls, one JSON param should represent the name of the function, and another for a context string

(if you want to be fancy, support recursion through tables)

otherwise, it's simply _G[funcName](contextStr, dialog_str)

[thick karma]

Oh you're saying I could trigger a global function directly using their string?

That is very interesting but I probably won't require them to call a global function...

[calm depot]

yeah, if you want to be a bit "nicer" you can allow them to specify "a.b.c..."

it's a little bit more code to then do the walk through the tables

arguably unnecessary since you can just encourage people to have a single global function that takes care of dispatch

[thick karma]

I could definitely let them do that without recursion

[calm depot]

or you could even build your own listener machinery that you were thinking of on top of this mechanism, too

[thick karma]

## [Command: commandName, stringArgOne, stringArgTwo, stringArgThree] Alright, stick em up!

[thick karma]

I was going to go with a listener mechanism that people could work to their own needs

[calm depot]

if you use JSON, it becomes even easier

{ "funcName": "theFunc", "args": ["one", "two"]}

[thick karma]

than :split() :trim()?

[calm depot]

you don't even need to do that

_G[funcName](unpack(args))

[thick karma]

Wait is unpack an available global in Zomboid space?

[calm depot]

yes, it's part of lua

[thick karma]

I tried to use table.unpack and it didn't work, I thought it was part of table, I'm dumb.

[calm depot]

oh, heh

[thick karma]

Ended up just writing my own

lol

I mean trivial

[calm depot]

welp, don't do that, unpack is global

[thick karma]

Haha I'll undo that

[calm depot]

uh, how exactly did you implement that

you know what unpack does right?

given {1,2,3}, unpack will turn it into 3 separate arguments, as if you did return 1,2,3

[thick karma]

I understand

So I would do {unpack(table)} to get a copy of a table basically

[calm depot]

yes

[thick karma]

I didn't REALLY implement unpack tbh

I didn't need unpack

I needed a subtable

[calm depot]

actually, you could implement unpack using recursion

[thick karma]

So I did that directly

[calm depot]

but, unpack is implemented natively, much faster

[thick karma]

For sure.

I will consider using it instead now that I know it actually works.

[calm depot]

also, unpack only works for tables with 1..N indices

all other keys in the table are ignored

[thick karma]

Great, because that's how I need it to work lol

I have mixed keys

[frank elbow]

If you include an n key with the desired length it will include keys in 1..n

[calm depot]

whenever I wrap existing game code, my MO is to always do local ret = {originalFunc(...)} and return unpack(ret)

[thick karma]

Yeah I was thinking if I use command strings they can just do stuff OnServerCommand and I could give them a list of string args to work with

[frank elbow]

i.e., local t = {1, nil, 3, n = 3} print(unpack(t)) → 1 nil 3

[calm depot]

I'm not so sure that's going to print what you think

a key with a nil value is nil

[frank elbow]

That's not a key with a nil value ?

[calm depot]

surely that's going to just print 1

the key 2 will be set to nil

[frank elbow]

Ah, I thought you meant a nil key

[calm depot]

a key can't hold a nil value

[frank elbow]

You can try it yourself if you want 🤷🏾 works in implementations I'm aware of

Yes, but the special n key is considered

Just tried it in the debug console and it is 1 nil 3

[calm depot]

it is indeed

there's definitely some lua esoterica going on here

this doesn't work:

local t = {1}
t[3] = 2
t[2] = nil
print(unpack(t))```

so you have to set it to nil within the table declaration

[frank elbow]

You have to assign the n key to the desired maximum for unpack, which isn't done there (unless you've excluded it?)

[calm depot]

what do you mean by n key?

[frank elbow]

t.n = 3

[calm depot]

there is no t.n

[frank elbow]

I think you missed that in my original message, now I see why you were confused lol

Well yeah, you have to assign it

[calm depot]

sure, but what's the relevance

unpack doesn't care about that

[frank elbow]

It does

If you do the example I sent without it, it will only print 1 as you suggested

[calm depot]

local t = {1, nil, 2}
for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k) end
print("---")
print(unpack(t))```

there is no n key present

yet, unpack correctly prints out 1, nil, 2

[frank elbow]

In which implementation?

[calm depot]

Lua 5.1 Repl

https://replit.com/languages/lua

[frank elbow]

Huh, surprising

[calm depot]

it has to be internal, the key is marked as existing and not garbage collected

[frank elbow]

It's respected in versions I've used & in the debug console, so relevant to PZ modding at least

[calm depot]

I've never known .n to be a thing

[frank elbow]

I swear I used 5.1 back in the day and didn't see that behavior

[calm depot]

some non-standard extension

[frank elbow]

I'm willing to bet it works on the official Lua demo, but let me try so I can see if I'll eat my words

I ate my words

Wait what

If I define it in the table initially it works

[calm depot]

yes, that was what I showed you earlier

[frank elbow]

I mean n, not the nil value

[calm depot]

example?

[frank elbow]

local t = {1, nil, 3, n = 3}
print(table.unpack(t))

prints 1 nil 3, whereas

local t = {1, nil, 3}
t.n = 3
print(table.unpack(t))

prints only 1, Lua 5.4 (https://www.lua.org/cgi-bin/demo)

So yeah, some sort of magic

[thick karma]

t[4] = 4
print(table.unpack(t))

1, 2, nil, 4

[frank elbow]

The actual value of n is ignored altogether, even. I am thoroughly confused

[thick karma]

Unpack is auto inserting nils where they belong

[calm depot]

but unpack can only do that for keys which exist in the table

[thick karma]

No

[thick karma]

I didn't make a key 3

Key 3 is not in the above code

I just ran that in the Lua demo

It autogenerates nil for key 3

Because it knows logically between 2 and 4 there is a 3

HOWEVER

This only works for 1 empty spot!

Haha

local t = {1, 2}
t[5] = 5
print(table.unpack(t))

1, 2

[calm depot]

yeah, I'm pretty sure this is some garbage-collector related shenanigans

[thick karma]

lol what a cluster

[frank elbow]

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that unpack defies all expectations

[calm depot]

because by defining .n later, you're likely triggering a rehash of the table

When you iterate over the elements of the array, the first non-initialized index will result in nil; you can use this value as a sentinel to represent the end of the array.

and yet, here we are

ah, table.unpack is explicitly able to preserve nils

that's since Lua 5.2

[frank elbow]

With the index parameters, that I was not aware of

That's much easier

[thick karma]

Oof

[calm depot]

so, whether it works or not in 5.1 is dependent on if the key is "alive"

quite perverse though, the general rule of Lua is that setting a key's value to nil is equivalent to removing it from the table

[frank elbow]

I can only assume I misremembered since I've never actually used this functionality—presumably got mixed up with table.pack—but unpack (list [, i [, j]]) (e.g., unpack(t, 1, 3)) is more reliable and works ingame too

Glad we had this talk so I didn't go on giving that poor advice

[thick karma]

@calm depot Do you know if that JSON thing can do infinite nests? I notice it uses [ { } ] in its example... is that strict? Do I have to alternate? Can I Just use one or the other?

[calm depot]

if it's valid JSON, it can parse it. JSON can nest infinitely, so yes

[red tiger]

You can.

[thick karma]

Cool just making sure that's how they wrote it.

[thick karma]

Cool

[calm depot]

[ {} ] is just a JSON array with a single element which happens to be a json object

[thick karma]

Hmmmm it's tempting. Idk if it's worth it or not. Dialogues would have more delimiter management going on, but that might not be a bad thing.

[calm depot]

generally, your root JSON node should be a JSON object a {}

{ "main": {
    "text" : "Intro String",
    "choices" : [
        { "text": "Choice 1", "choices": [ ... ] }
    ...]
  }
}```

of course, at some point you terminate and there's only text, no more choices

you may or may not have a "luacall" present for any given choice

[ancient grail]

you guys know how to make the halo show a bit longer?

[thick karma]

Yeah I gotcha, I can imagine vaguely how it would look. I mean I don't mind it but part of me is wondering what'll really be easier for most end users...

That's a whole lot of potential mistakes to make compared to "use the right number of #"

[calm depot]

with the right indentation, it'll be perfectly readable

also, it means that they can chuck the JSON into a proper validator

[thick karma]

Definitely readable

I'm talking about writable

By nonprogrammers.

[frank elbow]

Use the overload which accepts a second float parameter, which will be used as the duration

[thick karma]

obviously I find it perfectly easy to edit and read.

I am used to brackets and colons everywhere.

I live among brackets and colons.

[calm depot]

for writing it, if you're really a noob, do it in YAML and convert that to JSON

[thick karma]

lmao that sounds more complicated but maybe not

[calm depot]

YAML supports stuff like back-referencing so you can "paste" existing chunks into other places

it also just uses whitespace for indentation

so if you can handle basic python, you can handle YAML

[thick karma]

Fair.

[calm depot]

https://www.json2yaml.com/ does a pretty bangup job

it also demonstrates the aliasing feature

I can definitely see situations where you define an array of choices that you'd want to re-use without having to explictly copypaste it into the document, so YAML is quite a win there

heh, someone did make a YAML parser for Lua too, though I don't know how mature it is

[thick karma]

@calm depot Just realized "^#+" won't work

Returns 1 occurrence

I need the true occurrences for the logic of my loop

Gotta split it on the space first

[hot patrol]

Could someone tell me what this error is and how I can fix it? I get it whenever I try crafting my dakimakura armor ```LOG : General , 1677194629647> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE

function: dakiCondition -- file: dakiActions.lua line # 109 | MOD: Big Degen's Dakimakura Emporium
Callframe at: PerformMakeItem
function: perform -- file: ISCraftAction.lua line # 58 | Vanilla

LOG : General , 1677194629648>
LOG : General , 1677194629984> creating new sourcewindow: C:/Users/thisi/Zomboid/mods/Big Degen's Dakimakura Emporium WIP/media/lua/server/dakiActions.lua
LOG : General , 1677194710612> creating new sourcewindow: H:/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/ProjectZomboid/media/lua/client/DebugUIs/ISFastTeleportMove.lua```

[calm depot]

make a capture group for it

^(#)+

then you can strlen it for the count

I'm still on the side of JSON/YAML docs though

[thick karma]

Bob = "#### This is #1."
print(Bob:gsub("^(#)+", ""))

?

[calm depot]

https://www.lua.org/pil/20.3.html

[thick karma]

That's fair, I'm torn. If I could get a significant performance boost I may made the change and use the json decoder, but ultimately I'm not convinced it will be easier to edit

To me it looks like it would be harder for a lot of non programmers to understand but idk

[fast galleon]

lua 5.4

zx = {1,nil,3}
#zx
3

[calm depot]

you say it will be harder, but unless you write a really good validator for your custom spec, any sufficiently complex dialog tree will be a nightmare to debug

that is, assuming you don't also write any bugs into your own parser 😉

[fast galleon]

the more you know...

[calm depot]

of course, there's also nothing stopping you from adopting JSON/YAML and also supporting your own format

in fact, you could also support people writing their dialog trees purely in lua as well, if they want more flexibility around function calls

(specifically, you can detect that the type of your funccall key is already a function)

[thick karma]

All fair enough. I WAS going to add error messages; theoretically, I could even include line numbers... And while I think you're right that it's going to be a challenging to debug a complex dialogue tree... wouldn't it be complex anyway for a nonprogrammer? I mean, dialogue trees get pretty deep.

[calm depot]

I suppose it depends what they're building

[thick karma]

This is an interesting idea

I like it

[calm depot]

but you know, there comes a point where the scope of your work is large enough that you need to use a proper, structured format

[thick karma]

This... is also a pretty damn good point.

Hmmm worthwhile considerations regardless of where I go next

[calm depot]

this is what being a principal is like, most of your time is spent suggesting ways of solving stuff rather than actual programming issues 😄

[thick karma]

And I do want to target the leading #s correctly so I'm glad I talked to you

Don't want to get errors because someone says, "You're #1!" in a dialogue.

[small topaz]

that is because op actually wants to add a free trait to a profession. so I tried to explain how to do this by exchanging the "fake" trait with the actual one. the result is that the trait outdoorsman is still correctly displayed in the occupation screen during character creation. (problem is that just adding a vanilla trait to a profession as a free trait results in buggy game behavior. therefore the trick with the fake trait.)

[ancient grail]

ahhhh

makes seense

[drifting ore]

anyone know if it works out if I have one mod required by another in the mod.info, but does that make it required to use at all? i'm trying to get it so when the two mods are installed together, it will always goto the assets in one of the two mods first always

[calm depot]

doesn't a profession have a points cost?

why don't you subtract the trait cost from the profession cost

[drifting ore]

i dont want it to be forcefully required always, but if it is installed, it will always use the first mods assets

if i explained correctly

[hollow current]

i tried running a dedicated server using steam's PZ dedicated server thingy. I can't seem to get a function to be executed when the server starts either, i am not sure why

-- Define a function that will be called when the server starts
function RestartAlert.OnServerStart()

    while(true) do
        print("test")
    end
end

-- Add the RestartAlert.OnServerStart function to the server start event
Events.OnServerStarted.Add(RestartAlert.OnServerStart)```

[drifting ore]

both my mods and i dont mind doing a tiny extra

[calm depot]

AFAIR, if a dependency is present, it gets loaded first, if it's missing it complains in the log that it's missing but I believe it still tries to load your mod anyway

but, it may also just skip loading your mod too, I haven't tested, you should 🙂

[hollow current]

the server is working fine, I am not getting any errors, but for some reason, the "test" isn't being printed when the server starts

[drifting ore]

yea i'm messing around with it now. haha

i think that event is too soon right

[calm depot]

is your code defined in a mod?

[hollow current]

yes the server is loading the mod no problems

[calm depot]

where is RestartAlert defined

you are declaring a function in that table, but I don't see where you declare the table

[hollow current]

RestartAlert = RestartAlert or {}

-- This function checks the current time and displays a message on the player's screen
-- if the server restart time is approaching.
function RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime()

    --code removed due to discord's character limit
end

-- Define a function that will be called when the server starts
function RestartAlert.OnServerStart()

    while(true) do
        print("test")
    end
end

-- Add the RestartAlert.OnServerStart function to the server start event
Events.OnServerStarted.Add(RestartAlert.OnServerStart)```

This is the whole file

[calm depot]

ok

[hollow current]

soo ye im not sure exactly what im doing wrong here

[calm depot]

where are you looking for the string? in the logs?

[hollow current]

no in-game console

[calm depot]

theoretically that should work, but I'd check the debug log anyway

you should also check the log to ensure there were no errors reported loading your lua file

(and indeed, that it actually bothered to load your lua file at all)

[hollow current]

checked that as well, doesn't seem to be there anything out of the ordinary

it did the load the mod without any errors

[calm depot]

I'm talking specifically about the lua file

it will log when it loads the file

if you can't find the filename in the log, it didn't run

[hollow current]

server-console.txt ye?

[bronze yoke]

it shouldn't show up in the in-game console, that event is server-side

[calm depot]

I usually use DebugLog-server

yeah, I assumed he meant the server's console window

I hope that's not what he meant

[hollow current]

erm i actually meant the in-game console thingy for the debug mode

[calm depot]

oh

that's obviously not going to work

[hollow current]

I don't have much experience with how mods behave for servers xd

[bronze yoke]

are you hosting in-game? it should be coop-console.txt in that case

[calm depot]

he said he downloaded the dedicated

[hollow current]

using the dedicated server thingy

[calm depot]

so it should be running in a command prompt

[hollow current]

i checked the command prompt and doesn't really show the string either

lemme double check

[drifting ore]

you can use that log file you mentioned aren

[hollow current]

ye nothing, according to the code the command prompt should just be spammed withe string

[drifting ore]

it is the console for the server

[calm depot]

right, check the DebugLog-server.txt for the most recent run

[drifting ore]

well the log

[hollow current]

aah that makes sense

[calm depot]

it's in the Logs folder

make sure it actually loaded your lua file

[hollow current]

only thing relevant is
[24-02-23 03:37:55.421] LOG : Mod , 1677202675421> 195,268,117> loading RestartAlert.

Followed by a bunch of same lines for loading translation files

[calm depot]

again, the file

RestartAlert is just the mod's ID

[hollow current]

yup gotcha, the file isn't actually anywhere

[calm depot]

sounds like your mod has a structure problem

paste the full path to the lua file

[hollow current]

C:\Users\{user}\Zomboid\Workshop\Restart Alert\Contents\mods\Restart Alert\media\lua\client\RestartAlert.lua

I loaded up another mod and its functioning properly, yet it doesn't show that it loaded the actual files in the log

[calm depot]

rename the client folder to server

[hollow current]

ah

[calm depot]

with the way the game currently works, technically it shouldn't matter, but this is intended for the server, so name it that way

at least we should hopefully end up seeing it appear in the logs

[hollow current]

by the way do i need to publish changes to workshop if I am running the dedicated server locally or would it like, read changes directly locally?

[calm depot]

if the server's been provided a Workshop ID, it'll download that and preferentially use the workshop version

I forget if a server instance can find your local workshop stuff, though

[drifting ore]

you can use nosteam so i'd think so

[calm depot]

nosteam doesn't use the Workshop folder

that uses the regular mods folder

as in Zomboid\mods

[hollow current]

meh shouldn't matter imma publish changes so I don't have to go through the trouble anyways. The mod is staying unlisted either ways so shouldn't be an issue

[calm depot]

not Zomboid\Workshop

yeah, unlisted, no issue

[hollow current]

i changed the whole file to

RestartAlert = RestartAlert or {}

function onCustomUIKeyPressed(key)
    if key == 21 then
        local currentTime = os.date("*t")
        print(currentTime.hour)
    end
end

Events.OnCustomUIKeyPressed.Add(onCustomUIKeyPressed)```

i'll see if that does anything

[drifting ore]

ah bad at reading apparently lol myb.

[calm depot]

@hollow current this is running on the SERVER

it won't receive any key presses

[hollow current]

soooo what should i do

im at a total loss

also that's weird because it actually worked

im not sure how but it did

[calm depot]

that worked because it also loaded on your client

so what you are testing is your client, not the server

[hollow current]

aa

[calm depot]

on the bright side, that means the structure is correct

[hollow current]

Alright so presumably with nothing wrong with the structure and that the file is being loaded, then it must be sth wrong with the code, right?

[calm depot]

if you reduce the file to a simple print("hello world") and nothing else, I would expect that string to appear in your server's log

[hollow current]

LOG  : General     , 1677204682862> 197,275,557> Hello World
LOG  : Lua         , 1677204682862> 197,275,558> Loading: C:/Users/{User}/Zomboid/Workshop/Restart Alert/Contents/mods/Restart Alert/media/lua/server/RestartAlert_ISUI.lua```

guess it did

[calm depot]

aye

[hollow current]

so technically speaking

-- Define a function that will be called when the server starts
function RestartAlert.OnServerStart()
    print("hello world")
end

-- Add the RestartAlert.OnServerStart function to the server start event
Events.OnServerStarted.Add(RestartAlert.OnServerStart)```

should do the same thing

[calm depot]

not quite

the string will only be seen after startup completes

[hollow current]

oki lemme start up the server and see if it does work

LOG : General , 1677205011276> 197,603,973> Server Successfully Started! YAYY!

nice

okay that's weird that the initial code is now working as intended and the command prompt is being spammed

not sure what changed

[calm depot]

forgot to push it to the workshop perhaps?

[hollow current]

nah it actually is working locally

i was pushing to workshop before but found out its detecting the changes locally

meh if it works it works

anyways thanks for the time so much!

[drifting ore]

LOG  : General     , 1677205962589> 337,147,769> Sync Lightswitch custom settings: sq is null x,y,z=10914,10093,0``` this doesn't happen on the host side but happens on the client side. i'm super unfamiliar with folder structure of where certain files should go. is there any kind of reference whatsoever? also not even sure if that's it but assuming it is since it's not happening on the hosted side, but on the player that joined host side

everything is in server atm. context menu stuff. recipe scriptmanager changes, updates to property value map, as well as my spritemanager stuff.

also does anyone know if OnLoadedTileDefinitions only happens once per load?

i'm testing stuff atm but hoping someone may have experience with something similar

[calm depot]

yes, it only happens once

i'm super unfamiliar with folder structure of where certain files should go.
what files?

there's pretty much only one valid location for anything other than lua code

[drifting ore]

so server should be good for anything?

well all i mentioned

hmm im gonna be messing with this all night LOL i know it

[calm depot]

I have no idea what you're doing but it's simple right

if the code should run on someone's server, put it in server

if it should run on only the clients, put it there instead

if it should run on both, put it in shared

now, there's a minor caveat in that to enforce this behaviour, the file needs to explicitly do an isClient/isServer check

[hollow current]

RestartAlert = RestartAlert or {}

-- Get the Calendar Instance
local cal = Calendar.getInstance()

-- Get the initial time in milliseconds
local initialTime = cal:getTimeInMillis()

-- This function checks the current time and displays a message on the player's screen
-- if the server restart time is approaching.
function RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime()
  --irrelevant lengthy code
end

function RestartAlert.RepeatCheck()
    local currentTime = cal:getTimeInMillis() -- Get the current time in milliseconds
    local elapsed = currentTime - initialTime -- Calculate the elapsed time

    if elapsed >= 60000 then -- Check if 1 minute has elapsed
        --RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime() -- Run the check
        print("One Minute has passed")
        initialTime = currentTime -- Reset the initial time
    end
end

-- Add the RestartAlert.RepeatCheck function to the server start event
Events.OnServerStarted.Add(RestartAlert.RepeatCheck)```

i think im missing some logic here because according to the event im using, the RepeatCheck will only be called once when the server starts

but im not really sure what to use in its place

[calm depot]

what is your end goal

[hollow current]

I am trying to get the RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime() function to repeat every one irl minute. It uses local currentTime = os.date("*t") to get current irl hour and minute. If it matches a specific time, it'll execute an action, i.e., for example

if hour == 22 and minute == 56 then
  do something
end```

[calm depot]

no, your end goal

what is the purpose

what are you trying to build

[hollow current]

It's a mod built for a specific server to display to the user an alert 10 mins prior to server restart

[calm depot]

Events.EveryHours should be good enough

that's in-game hours, not IRL

[hollow current]

but doesn't in-game time pass only when someone is online?

[calm depot]

yes, but if nobody's online, nobody's going to see the message are they now

also, you can actually set an option to make it continue simulating when nobody's on, but I wouldn't, especially for this use-case

[hollow current]

i guess if it won't be problematic (ye you have a point if no one's online doesn't make sense for the code to run anyways), no need to toggle the option

[calm depot]

honestly, it probably makes more sense to trigger this externally and just send a command into the server's RCON

/servermsg is the command

although I don't think you need the / if you're sending it over RCON

[ancient grail]

Theres a sandbox or server option to toggle this feature

[calm depot]

^yes, I said this

either way, writing in-game code strikes me as the wrong approach

make your restart script - systemd or whatever, call an RCON client 10 minutes before and fire off the servermsg string

[hollow current]

hmm understood. I'll look into the possibility of doing this. Thanks either ways!

[calm depot]

alternatively, you could wrap the server's main function in Java and do whatever your heart desires

personally, doing it the scripty way should be good enough, but if you need something heavily custom, that's the way to go. It could even take care of shutting itself down

[hollow current]

yeeeee i doubt im experienced enough to work with Java 😬

i think i got it working tho

if it doesn't seem to be problematic imma just leave it as is, alternatively imma just set a scheduled rcon thingy

[thick karma]

@calm depot I really like your Lua idea. Leaning that way actually. Seems so obvious in retrospect but I feel it can just do more...

[calm depot]

just make sure your code is wrapped in an isServer() check, otherwise it'll do its stuff on the clients too

[thick karma]

So easily

[calm depot]

which is going to be wrong because not everyone lives in the same timezone

[calm depot]

Yeah, I'd opt for Lua too, unless the goal is to address some situation where consumers of your library don't want to be publishing their own mod

[thick karma]

No I don't think that's very likely tbh.

I think Lua would be best

[hollow current]

oo ye makes sense

but actually

currentTime = os.date("*t")

doesn't this get the os time of the hosting server

i.e. the machine running the code?

[calm depot]

it gets the time of the machine running the code, yes

and it's going to be running on both the server and client unless you prevent that

[hollow current]

oh i get it now

thanks for the headsup

[hollow current]

function RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime()

    -- Get the current real-world time according to the server's timezone
    if isServer() then
        local currentTime = os.date("*t")
    else
        return
    end

    --rest of code
end```

This the way its meant to be?

[calm depot]

much easier way - stick this at the top of the file:

if not isServer() then
  return
end```

[hollow current]

ah okay that's way better

one more question

so the way i display alerts is by using UI. I haven't worked much with UI but I did with clientside and it did work correctly. for this code running server-side, im doing the following:

function RestartAlert.CheckServerRestartTime()

    -- Get the current real-world time according to the server's timezone
    local currentTime = os.date("*t")

    -- Extract the current hour and minute
    local currentHour = currentTime.hour
    local currentMin = currentTime.min

    -- Initialize a variable to hold the message content
    local content = nil

    --some stuff in between where content is defined if it meets specific conditions

    if content then
        local myUI = MyUI:new(content)
        myUI:initialise();
        myUI:addToUIManager();
    end

end```

Im not sure if this makes sense or if I need to loop over all players to show them the UI

[calm depot]

it's running on the server so you can't do that because there is no UI

[hollow current]

so what's the way around that

[calm depot]

trigger a servermsg

which will then send that message to all the clients

[hollow current]

how do you trigger one via code

[calm depot]

to answer that, you need to grep through the game's code

[ancient grail]

local msg = "helloworld"
SendCommandToServer("/servermsg \"" .. msg  .. "\"");

[hollow current]

Thanks!

[calm depot]

(or get lucky that someone in here knows the answer)

however, that function is aimed at clients for administration, so I'm not entirely convinced it'll work

[hollow current]

exactly haha, i can't count the hours wasted on Notepad++ trying to find the answer to how sth in done in vanilla. although gotta admit sometimes its easy as well

imma test it out now

[hollow current]

mm nope seems to throw an error

[calm depot]

yeah, I figured

I had a poke through the exposed functions, I haven't (yet) found anything that would enable you to trigger a servermsg

[hollow current]

i did as well, no luck. Would be cool to use it tho. way better than UI too

[calm depot]

Yes, that's because you're running the command on a client

[ancient grail]

ah ok ididnt know it was from server sorry myb

that wont work

[calm depot]

you don't say

[ancient grail]

any chat commands from server doesnt work

you need client admin

[hollow current]

sighs

there must be a way to just create such a textdraw and display over all connected players' screens server-side

[calm depot]

what you really want is to get at the ChatServer type, but it isn't exposed to Lua

to be honest, this is feeding into the point I made about doing this externally and sending the command over RCON

[hollow current]

what was the command to send to RCON again?

[calm depot]

RCON listens on a port

you need an RCON client on your server in order to connect to it

the command is servermsg

I think that PZ will only bind RCON to loopback, but, if it does let you bind to any IP address, know that it has absolutely no authentication whatsoever, so if you do expose the port to the internet, you're gonna get pwned

[hollow current]

the server is hosted on G-Portal, not on my local machine

i THINK it should have a way to schedule such stuff

[calm depot]

I see

personally I just rent a linux box and set stuff up myself

cheaper and you have root so you can do whatever you like

[ancient grail]

what is it you trying to do again?

we did a server reminder thing using task scheduler and yeah RCON but problem is you have to have the pc on

😦

[calm depot]

he wants to send a server broadcast message to warn people that it's going to reboot

[ancient grail]

o yeah perfect

its doable

[calm depot]

yes, obviously it's doable

[ancient grail]

wait let me find the bat file

[calm depot]

he doesn't have a server where you have direct OS access

at least, he hasn't indicated that

[hollow current]

too complicated for my liking for the size of the server tbh

ye i don't have direct OS access

fingers crossed G-Portal would allow that kind of thing, otherwise, i'll just look for an alternative

[calm depot]

the alternative way (which is quite shitty) is to implement your own client-server command so that the server can notify clients to display the message

which is frankly waaaay overengineering the problem

[ancient grail]

-c rcon.yaml -t rcon -l rcon-default.log "servermsg "Server Restart reminder""
-c rcon.yaml -t rcon -l rcon-default.log "servermsg "Server Restart in 2 mins.""
-c rcon.yaml -t rcon -l rcon-default.log "save"

[calm depot]

sighs

[hollow current]

i'll save that in case by any chance I find it possible to be used, although I doubt it, but thanks either ways!

[ancient grail]

we use gportal

[calm depot]

that won't help you because it's specific to whatever rcon executable he's using

OK, so does GPortal give you RDP access?

seems to me he's renting a PZ instance specifically, not a whole server

[ancient grail]

i just placed the rcon on the systemtask32

[calm depot]

"the rcon" - there are various ones

[ancient grail]

we rent yeah just for pz not a whole server

then it wont work? i guesss idk

[hollow current]

So how does it exactly work, scheduling the RCON command on G-Portal?

[calm depot]

it won't work unless the server came with an rcon app included, or you link him to the one you downloaded

[ancient grail]

by lua it should also work if you do like the horde event servermsg

[calm depot]

your problem seems like it's better geared towards asking GPortal's support team. if you can get RDP access into your server instance, you can do what Glytch3r has done

[hollow current]

im too beat for today to think about this anymore tbh

[ancient grail]

https://github.com/spoutnickgp/zomboid-mod-here-they-come

it has a servermsg thing so idk how it works really but if they manage to that then its doable right

[hollow current]

the code seems workable with. Imma look at it in the morning though since my brain is refusing to function anymore

local function HTC_sendWarnToPlayer(player, data)
    HTC_sendCommandToPlayer(player, data, "HTCHordeWarn")
end```

[calm depot]

yes, it does what I said - a custom client & server command

[hollow current]

looks like this is where its handled tho

[calm depot]

that's some pretty gross overengineering for what can be a script that fires before the restart

[hollow current]

ooookay imma head to bed and in the morning imma hopefully be able to figure out an easy way to do it. If not i'll just bite the dust (correct idiom?) and try to reverse-engineer what Glytch3r sent and see if I can do sth similar on a smaller scale

[calm depot]

the bullet

biting the dust is to die or be defeated

[hollow current]

ah right i always get confused between those two

Well. Thanks SO much for your time gentlemen. I really appreciate it

Have a good night (or day/evening, whatever time it is in your timezone) :)

[drifting ore]

not 100% but seems like moving this to shared fixed my sync issue for hosted player

local vals = IsoWorld.PropertyValueMap:get("PickUpLevel") or ArrayList.new()
    for i = 1, 10 do
    local val = tostring(i)
    if not vals:contains(val) then vals:add(val) end
    IsoWorld.PropertyValueMap:put("PickUpLevel",vals)
    end

[calm depot]

that map is local to the host

[drifting ore]

in shared?

[calm depot]

the map doesn't get synchronised

[drifting ore]

i was having some weird issue where if a connected player altered the modded lightswitches, the host would get that spam

oh so it needed to be in shared you are saying

[calm depot]

but, unless you had some sort of isClient/IsServer check, it would be running on both client and server anyway

[drifting ore]

sorry my brain is ded

[calm depot]

currently, the game doesn't properly separate loading of code

[drifting ore]

gotcha

you think this will be fine running without an event?

i couldnt find one that worked lol

if you have suggestion please feel free but wasn't sure if it was needed in this case

the last part of the light switch overhaul has been a giant pain in the ass

[calm depot]

OnLoadedTileDefinitions sounds like the most probable

[drifting ore]

i'm using that for the function trigger for changing the value itself, wouldn't cause any issue with it?

i suppose its in server so it will run after anyways

[calm depot]

what do you mean "changing"

[drifting ore]

im setting the Val of PickUpLevel

[calm depot]

if you have code in that event, you can either create the key/value pair if it doesn't exist, or redefine it if it does

[drifting ore]

Events.OnLoadedTileDefinitions.Add(function(manager)
    local canMove = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Movelevel
    local noMove = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Movedisabled
    local lights = {"lighting_indoor_01_0", "lighting_indoor_01_1", "lighting_indoor_01_2", "lighting_indoor_01_3", "lighting_indoor_01_4", "lighting_indoor_01_5", "lighting_indoor_01_6", "lighting_indoor_01_7"}

    for _, light in pairs(lights) do
        local switchSprite = manager:getSprite(light):getProperties()
        if not switchSprite then return end
        switchSprite:Set("PickUpLevel",tostring(canMove),false)

        if noMove then
            switchSprite:UnSet("IsMoveAble")

        end
    end
end)
``` in server

the code above this is in shared

code below is shared, above is server

#mod_development message

i was told to trigger the propertymap update prior to loadtiledefs

[calm depot]

as I said, in the absence of an isClient/isServer check, it doesn't matter

[drifting ore]

got it

[calm depot]

you should still organise code properly and not rely on that fact, but just moving it to shared won't change behaviour

unless the other file had an error that prevented it loading, and your cut code doesn't 😉

[drifting ore]

got it. no loading errors everything works 100% right now

only thing just not using event for the propmap update

[calm depot]

also, rather than using pairs, you should use ipairs

it's faster for sequential tables

pairs is just for when you have arbitrary keys

[drifting ore]

ahh lol

thats probably the best explanation i've gotten on it really

[ancient grail]

@sour island it works i just tested it

[rancid panther]

underweight players

[ancient grail]

Ow then my texute sucks if that what you see hehe

[calm depot]

texture? that's a complete model

[ancient grail]

Well it didnt look skinny for people when it was obvious skeleton

[sour island]

Are you setting animation variables? I hadn't had a chance to work on much @ancient grail

[hollow shadow]

didnt the devs use "animzed" or something? it got mentioned quite a few times when b41 got released

[jaunty marten]

btw lights table is static so u can to move it to outside of event function

[pulsar heath]

anyone knows a good decompiler for net framework? A client needs an update on a app i did 10 years ago and i dont have the code and dont remember crap of what i did there

good enough for me to have a guideline of how i made it... i dont feel like developing it from scratch...

[wheat kraken]

@sour island hey, as an veteran mod developer, did you know what menu options are controllers friendly,

recently I discover that combobox are not (or i did something wrong)

what are the options for ui that support controllers?

there are a list of elements with good support?

@tame mulch it will be nice to list and mention that elements on wiki,

it will be useful for mods have great support for controllers

---

if we have a list of good mods for controller support I can extract a list of currently used elements

---

I will mention some people that deal or try deal with controller support to help in this topic: @dark wedge @thick karma

unfortunally I dont have a physical controler to do proper tests

---

other modders looking for that and similar discussion
#mod_development message

---

update: i manage to do combobox work on controller in my mod rebalance items yourself
need to use onjoypaddown, thanks burryaga

function RebalanceIt:onJoypadDown(button, joypadData)
    if button == Joypad.AButton then    
        self.selected = self.popup.selected    
        RebalanceIt.onEditItemChange(self.target,self)
        self.parent:close()
        setJoypadFocus(joypadData.player, getPlayerInventory(joypadData.player))
    elseif button == Joypad.BButton then
        self.parent:close()    
        setJoypadFocus(joypadData.player, getPlayerInventory(joypadData.player))
    end
end
--and link it when create combobox entry
comboentry.onJoypadDown = RebalanceIt.onJoypadDown

[calm depot]

dnSpy

it'll even let you hotpatch

[scenic cradle]

hey folks - anyone have any experience (or an example) with the LUA to cycle through a server on boot and remove certain tiles based on x/y/z co-ords? I've got a rough bit of code working to randomly place tiles at x/y/z on boot, but I also need to clean up those tiles from previous boot as well and am unsure how to achieve this easily.

[calm depot]

by default the server makes a backup each time it boots

unless you've changed the default, or restarted it over 5 times, you'll have a backup save

which is orders of magnitude easier than trying to figure out which random tiles have some incorrect entity on them

[scenic cradle]

@calm depot I have the tile coordinates/names that I want to check if are present and then subsequently remove on boot; I'm just not sure how to go about bouncing to each of those co-ords and performing the remove of the tile.

[pulsar heath]

thx @calm depot

if only they listened to me 10 years ago and went with sql for the database and not a access database now i wouldnt have to go through this... who uses access db in a media company.... idiots...

who uses access dbs... period... makes no sense

[calm depot]

I assume you don't still work for them. Stop complaining and bill them exorbitantly

Shit like this is where you get "special" pricing for not having listened all those years ago

[thick karma]

You can base you panel on one of the panels in Wookiee Gamepad Support . . . Those panels have gamepad support and list boxes

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2922618524

[vivid linden]

cam anyone help me with understanding lua script? I know what I want to do just not sure where to start like I know I need to add a context menu and stuff

[thick karma]

This adds a world context menu entry https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2929985581

[thick karma]

FYI, you need to play with onJoypadDown(button, joypadData) and onJoypadDirUp/Down/Left/Right. Wookiee Joypad Support adds functions for adding button images to menus for stuff like L1 and R1 and the D-Pad.

You also need to learn to give the joypad focus to the correct object and you need to make sure that object is prepared to handle joypad focus; I personally convert ISPanels to ISPanelJoypads, deriving the fundamental structures from that in order to prepare for support to be added when I am adding support to something.

[bronze yoke]

it's just not possible the way you're describing; you can only interact with tiles that are loaded, and only tiles near players are loaded, so you can't reliably do anything to the world in one go (like at boot)

the most you can do is keep a persistent table of tiles to remove and detect when they do become loaded

[scenic cradle]

@bronze yoke so assuming I have a table with x/y/z/tile already built (it's how I'm loading the tiles) what would I call to delete/remove said tile?

[bronze yoke]

i think IsoObject:removeFromWorld() is enough

[scenic cradle]

ok - that's what I thought; just need to figure out how to iterate thru my table and have it pass the data over - thank you.

[cunning canyon]

Does the game make a distinction between wetness received from rain vs sweat? I know the moodle implies it doesn’t, but is rain wetness and sweat wetness (sweatness if you will) tracked separately then added together? Or do both just pile on to the same wetness stat?

[thick karma]

@cunning canyon Before you get wet, definitely... after, it seems no.

And the game may make you wet from Java. idk...

[cunning canyon]

I hate spilling coffee on myself

Alright, I think I can figure something out.

[thick karma]

Oof that is totally the worst

@clever turret I have reason to believe that may be a bug in Brutal Handwork (new dual wielding mod). We are working to get to the bottom of that one, but I am not sure about it.

[clever turret]

Good to know, thank you

[thick karma]

It should be intermittent and nonfatal to your server afawk but feel free to play it safe on that one by awaiting the patch. @clever turret

[clever turret]

The server can run it just only runs for about 15 minutes before that comes up and it crashes

[digital moon]

Would there be anyone willing to help me with a container script I'm trying to complete? The model, tile properties and overlays are finished - but I'm still struggling with learning how to get it to only accept specific items. Ideally, once I get this to work it will open the door for completing a large(r) project I've been wanting to do.

[clever turret]

But only when other players are on the server, if its just me testing on my multiplayer server it dose not happen

[ancient grail]

Omg he mentioned a bunch of people

[fast galleon]

Is it a moveable (tile) or more like a container you carry around?

[digital moon]

It would be a moveable tile like a shelf or cabinet. I saw what you suggested on Github but admittedly, I'm still a little confused which is slightly embarrassing. I figured my knowledge of Python would help me with the logic behind it but I'm still lost lol

[fast galleon]

how far did you get?
do you have a way to grab the container for testing?

[digital moon]

I haven't gotten it into the game yet - but I believe everything is done except finishing the item script and lua file. I can bring it into the game and test - in your comment:

myGlobalFunction = function(container,item)
--return true or false
end

Am I understanding if the container name was "toolbox1" and the item/category I wanted it to accept was "screwdriver" it would be:

myGlobalFunction = function(toolbox1,screwdriver)
--return true or false
end?

[fast galleon]

I think if you wanted to accept only tools you could use setOnlyAcceptCategory("Tools"), that needs some tweaking and I don't use that.
*probably wouldn't work, checks different category?

[digital moon]

Oh gotcha - I've probably overlooked it completely - but is there a list of functions somewhere I can peruse?

[fast galleon]

for screwdriver it would be

myGlobalFunction = function(container,item)
 return item:hasTag("Screwdriver")
end

[digital moon]

Ok - thanks again for this.

That makes sense - and this would be in the lua file for the container I'm creating?

[fast galleon]

yeah lua

[digital moon]

Perfect - thank you.

[fast galleon]

if you make the global function it's a good idea to put into the table for AcceptItemFunction, which means the lua file would better be in server directory and have require "Items/AcceptItemFunction" on top

so that not to pollute the global space

[digital moon]

Got it - good to know!

[drifting ore]

I have no idea what you are talking about since this is a convo brought from a random place but I use it on a dedicated server with 350 mods and no issues at all

At least not even close to game breaking

[clever turret]

Just came over from mod support i can link you the original thing i posted if you want, not sure how many mods i have running i am using Burryaga's server settings, yeah not game breaking just annoying for the server to shut down every 15 minutes, otherwise the mod tends to run great

[drifting ore]

I just realized he mentioned some update or something. But sorry to hear about the mods conflicting. Weird how you have that error using it when I have a crap ton of mods installed. Interested to see what is causing the bug because as much as it’s showing those things, I still don’t think its brutal handwork unless another mod is doing something to it. I have gotten 0 stack trace from it so far. I am a kb and mouse user though.

Assume you tested the mod by itself no issues?

[clever turret]

Will be able to test it later it only happens when another person is on the server so just waiting on my mates to help me test

[thick karma]

@drifting ore It is almost certainly Brutal Handywork independently

Dhert is aware of this bug and he acknowledged recognizing it to me in DMs

It is simply intermittent

And therefore you may not experience it at all

[drifting ore]

Ahh you know what causes it by chance?

That’s so weird that I haven’t experienced it at all

[thick karma]

He is not 100% sure yet what triggers it, but he believes it may pertain to a failed initialization of an inventory item in the Java side of the maths.

[drifting ore]

10 hours of testing at least

[clever turret]

Thats good then, be sure to thank them for me for looking into it

[drifting ore]

Ahhhh

[thick karma]

I also have not yet seen it

But I was aware of it from conversations with him.

[drifting ore]

Well I’ll keep an eye out also if it’s something he hasn’t narrowed down

[thick karma]

I know it's a bit counterintuitive, but in this one case I think it is not a conflict.

Yeah I am gonna work on reproducing it when I get done with some other stuff and see if I get lucky.

[drifting ore]

Gonna spawn all weapons and just test them all in different combo

[thick karma]

He says he thinks it only happens during unarmed attacking

But that may or may not be accurate since it's so intermittent

@clever turret Any idea if that matches your experience?

[drifting ore]

Extra weird. I have around 600 kills with fists. Tyty I’ll specifically check that. I may have to test without the auto dial wield on. What sandbox setting do you use also Angelo?

I want to use the same

I have everything checked atm since I prefer the back and forth personally but I’m sure most may not play that way

[clever turret]

Default settings for it so 1st one un checked, 2nd checked 3rd unchecked

[frank lintel]

PZ is using Java 17 is it not?

I mean I know LUA for the mod coding but making the build environment etc for the IDE

[rugged flicker]

Hey, lads.
What are the arguments in this function?

After the string

Is it color or

[dark wedge]

The thing with Brutal Handwork is a random bug that can happen with dedicated servers only (doesn't happen with the Host option), and only with unarmed. Not sure exactly what causes it, but it is harmless from my testing; you would be the first to report it is actually killing the server @clever turret
It only happens when you're unarmed, and now that I think about it more, I think its an issue with vanilla in how its doing damage on the server. i.e. it received damage from your player but there's not actually a weapon equipped since I do it in my code locally and the game throws an error there.

[clever turret]

I am running hosted when this happens, from my players report what seams to lead up to the server crash is them using the unarmed attacks to fight zombies

Interestingly both the players who reported that started with amputated characters using The Only Cure Mod

[drifting ore]

I run dedicated and 10 hours of usage no issue also

Not a single error

[dark wedge]

The OG Only Cure, or the Only Cure but better?

Yea, its hit or miss. lol

[drifting ore]

I don’t use toc

[clever turret]

There a chance its them fighting unarmed without the other arm is bugging it out?

[drifting ore]

Just sharing anything to narrow down

[clever turret]

The only cure but better

[frank lintel]

https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/characters/IsoGameCharacter.html#addLineChatElement(java.lang.String,float,float,float)

that'll help explain what

[rugged flicker]

❤️

[dark wedge]

Ah, cool. It might be something to do with that, not sure. My TOC compat has gotten better too, so maybe. I'm working on a big update for the mod, so here's hoping that issue is resolved then.

[hollow shadow]

anyone know what these do in a gun script?

[clever turret]

Hopefully, the mod is amazing otherwise the duel wielding is so cool

[frank lintel]

why they using floats for a color is beyond me though...

[rugged flicker]

is it like 0,0 to 1,0 or 0,0 to 255,0

[frank lintel]

dunno it doesnt have a descriptor, given its a float I'd say 0-1.0 is likely.. Im totally new to this myself just familiar with java/IDE's etc from MC days

[rugged flicker]

gonna test

[fast galleon]

usually it's 0 to 1

[frank lintel]

right now Im just pulling hair trying to get my workspace set up cuz its saying use Java 8 and Im like why?

[drifting ore]

One of those rags is the chat stream I’m sure

Args

[azure rivet]

Hello, what program does anyone recommend to work with .pack files?

[pulsar heath]

you think the same way i do 😄 ... something that would take 1h tops if they had listened to me back then its gonna take at least two more days, with a premium price per day... double what i usually charge at least

[digital moon]

In Steam if you install the Project Zomboid Modding tools you would open the pack files within the pack file area: You can open the pack files, extract, etc.

[azure rivet]

Thanks, I couldn't find it.

[digital moon]

No problem at all. Let me know if you run into any issues.

[rugged flicker]

Yeah, it is

[vivid linden]

would anyone teach me some lua? I don't need anything crazy but like how to add modifiers or like actions to items and like that stuff

but im an expert on spawn mods now lol

[drifting ore]

i'm not 100% but i think it's chat message, chat stream labels, label, label?

i think they are labeled by some id

[rugged flicker]

Its r, g, b thingy

[drifting ore]

weird did you test it?

doesn't seem right

[rugged flicker]

Ye

[drifting ore]

what kinda values did you use for coloring if i may ask?

[cunning kestrel]

quick animation question: do you need a new fbx file per animation ?

[rugged flicker]

victim:addLineChatElement(getText( "UI_stagger_" .. (ZombRand(13) + 1) ), 0.8, 0.2, 0.2)

0.0 to 1.0

[drifting ore]

how did you convert them? or just kinda test until worked haha

[rugged flicker]

1.0 = 100% red

[drifting ore]

got it

[rugged flicker]

= 255 r

[frank lintel]

the javadocs dont got details but the values are labeled what its expecting it for

[finite sonnet]

Hello, does anyone have a guide or something that explains on how to patch some mods?
Trying to fix compatibility with Spongie's Clothing and Brita's Armor Pack, but am unsure on how to do it.

[frank lintel]

ya in the same spot Im at Im trying to see if I can fix some issues with superior suvivors

[drifting ore]

you'd have to know what issues you are having first lol

patching mods is specific to the user having the conflicts TBH. mainly because everyone uses different mods and setups and settings

[scenic cradle]

Ugh okay - so I did what I thought would work and rewrote the spawning functioning to be a removal function, and then swapped it out in the same place the spawn function gets called hoping it would step thru the table of map coords and use the IsoObject:removeFromWorld() function to do the removal ala my conversation with @bronze yoke earlier, but to no avail - no errors, but it's also not doing it - leaving the code dump here if anyone has a minute and could lend any insight into how I'm screwing this up it'd be greatly appreciated.

[quasi kernel]

Are you able to change data in Shared from the server or does that not work?

[bronze yoke]

do you mean can you change data cross-folder? the answer to that is yes, but your wording makes it sound like you expect data in shared to be networked, which it isn't

[quasi kernel]

Nono I dont expect it to be networked

I mean like

There's some shared data, I change it on the server, would the server still see the changes?

If so then my lead may be dead but oh well

[finite sonnet]

Oh, the issue is simple:
Brita's and Spongies have Bomber Jackets. 1:1 the same names, but different ones when worn opened. Depending which one is loaded first, it'll overwrite the other.
My newbie guess in modding is to simply change the file names and directions, but the "brute force" would be to copy the mod and have it release as a standalone lol

[drifting ore]

the fix is practically the same either way so uploading another version of the mod really makes literally no sense

my guess is you will have to update item information in scripts, but anything thats tied to it also will require some changing. i'd use the pzwiki and threads up top to get started on figuring out what will work best for your scenario. but for the most part changing some item info would net decent results. you may need someone with clothing experience since i have no idea what's affected in that dept. but doing some research yourself on how item scripts work will be a big advantage to you

tools up top in threads also if i didnt mention

[finite sonnet]

Looked through them, will look through again then

But that'll be atleast something to start with

[drifting ore]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Scripts_guide#Item_block_structure

[finite sonnet]

Ah, thanks

[jaunty marten]

never use iso:getX() .. "," .. iso:getY() .. "," .. iso:getZ() to save XYZ coordinates in table

it's a shit

[red tiger]

Good afternoon.

[scenic cradle]

Well - that's good to know, however it's working for the purposes of spawning right now - can you recommend a better format?

[red tiger]

Took a break from PZ for a couple days.

[jaunty marten]

tbl = {}

function set_value(x,y,z,val)
  tbl[x] = tbl[x] or {}
  tbl[x][y] = tbl[x][y] or {}
  tbl[x][y][z] = val
end

function get_value(x,y,z)
  if not tbl[x] then return end
  if not tbl[x][y] then return end
  return tbl[x][y][z]
end

[scenic cradle]

thanks @jaunty marten - I'll refactor my code to use that tabling format at some point - likely once I figure out how to get the actual deletion working lol...

[jaunty marten]

may be u don't know why ur method is bad: problem is on each string concat "1" .. "2" lua creates new string object so each ur get/set func call creates at least 2 unnecessary ones

it's bad for performance

[scenic cradle]

I mean, if it wasn't clear from my code markup - I bashed this together based on code I observed in other mods; I'm completely new to LUA.

[jaunty marten]

sadly most of workshop mods creators have no knowledge about good code

[scenic cradle]

lol - I will do my best to learn as I move forward; I was just happy to get this working for the spawning/placing of the tiles I need - now I want to have them "move" randomly every in game day - that's proving a lot harder than I thought it would be cause of the removal.

[ancient grail]

anyone knows how to print if the player is listening to music

[bronze yoke]

listening to music in what sense? true music?

[ancient grail]

i use x

[ancient grail]

yeah i guess

[fast galleon]

visually this looks worse and it's missing the get calls

why you prefer this?

also this needs more checks

[jaunty marten]

missing the get calls? huh?

visually his way is faster to use but it's actually worse

yeah

[jaunty marten]

I'm too lazy so I'm using third method

auto 3d table

[fast galleon]

what's that?

[drifting stump]

keepInBounds or keepWithinBounds which one would you prefer

[jaunty marten]

metatable with __index using
so just

tbl = create3DTable()

tbl[93][57][45] = val
local val = tbl[91][567][84]

[fast galleon]

you said not to use iso:getX() .. "," .. iso:getY() .. "," .. iso:getZ() but in your example how do you get the x,y,z?

[frank lintel]

return tbl?

[jaunty marten]

didn't test performance for it so I'm using it only while dev, on release will redo to 2nd method

[jaunty marten]

lul

x,y,z = iso:getX(), iso:getY(), iso:getZ()

[fast galleon]

would string.format("...",x,y,z) be better ( i assumed it's worse)

[jaunty marten]

huh?

[frank lintel]

in your posted code get_value ?

[jaunty marten]

no need to return something

tbl[x] is nil so what u want to return

result should be nil

[frank lintel]

'how do you get xyz' with what you returned from get_value is what I was saying. might got lost in translation

[jaunty marten]

tbl[x][y][z] anyway should be faster, but format is faster than just concat cos as Ik it don't creates new string objects

[jaunty marten]

it's just rough example

[frank lintel]

oh I totally understand why you dont like using concat.

[fast galleon]

interesting I assumed concat was fast, I'll look into this later 👍

[frank lintel]

imho Im still stuck just setting up my enviroment to start playing with this cuz Im just as to why I cant use JDK 17...

depends on the language

[jaunty marten]

concat is a poop

[fast galleon]

would global ModData save a metatable

[bronze yoke]

function objects can't be saved

[jaunty marten]

anyway u don't need to save metatable, u can just easily recreate it in next time

[fast galleon]

I can't see myself using table[x][y][z] , too many useless tables also seems like str = x .. y .. z makes only one string (?)

[frank lintel]

is that an actual function or just a generic name?

[drifting ore]

i love reading these debates. i honestly write down all this stuff lol

[frank lintel]

Im only asking cuz Im new to lua totally and sadly gonna be unlearning java it seems. ^_^

[fast galleon]

I think I got it, you get minimum 100 new strings for gc every time you load a chunk

[jaunty marten]

x .. y > 1st string
xy .. z > 2nd string

lua creates new string on EACH concat

[fast galleon]

stackoverflow said only one if it's one liner

[jaunty marten]

too many tables, yea, but lua is good with indexing tables so it's fine

[bronze yoke]

and xyz will cause overlapping values, so it actually has to be x..","..y..","..z, so actually 5 strings

[jaunty marten]

ah ",", yea, forgot about it

[scenic cradle]

lol... love the discussion this has sprung and appreciate all the input on formatting of my data table - still doesn't fix the original problem I'm trying to address though

[jaunty marten]

shouldn't

[frank lintel]

tbh Im still wondering why you'd even store xyz as a string in a 3d array.

[scenic cradle]

ahem, as stated before: The Trip Doctor — Today at 4:01 PM
I mean, if it wasn't clear from my code markup - I bashed this together based on code I observed in other mods; I'm completely new to LUA.

[jaunty marten]

I think will be single for liner concat only if concat not variable but literally strings. like optimised it on actually loading code

[fast galleon]

not to blame chuck for example but it seemed simpler and nicer as well

[jaunty marten]

not sure about that

[jaunty marten]

u right but worse performance

[fast galleon]

no argue, I already agreed above 🙂

a lot of garbage

[bronze yoke]

i'm still using it in a mod of mine because it'll make the code really messy if i don't, but i will take the string.format advice

[jaunty marten]

agreed with tbl[x][y][z] or concat

[fast galleon]

@scenic cradle I didn't check the whole code yet but if you remove objects from server you need to use the transmit command

[bronze yoke]

i was pointing you towards object:removeFromWorld(), not square:removeFromWorld(object)

i don't think the latter exists 😅

[scenic cradle]

well you'll have to excuse my lack of LUA knowledge for trying to beat that into submission @bronze yoke LOL

[bronze yoke]

so the square:removeFromWorld(isoObject) line in SimuVTS_SpawnVendors.Remove should be isoObject:removeFromWorld()

[scenic cradle]

going to give that a shot right now and see if it actually works. thanks!

[fast galleon]

concat for LoadGridsquare makes too much garbage, better not do it

but I won't be making changes before v42 or ever

[scenic cradle]

I am prepared for anything I make to break with v42 😄

[jaunty marten]

I even stopped all my projects

will wait 42 too

[frank lintel]

oh there an eta on when that is cuz Im wondering if I should just chill and try and learn lua more before even trying to get into modding cuz of possible major changes

[fast galleon]

--remove obj from server
square:transmitRemoveItemFromSquare(isoObject)

--add object from server
square:AddSpecialObject(isoObject)
--if combined with remove then use square:AddSpecialObject(isoObject,index)
if isServer() then
  isoObject:transmitCompleteItemToClients()
end

[sour island]

Personal opinion, stuff won't change enough to be that concerned. The biggest change was the reimplementation of MP, and most mods survived that.

• you still have to get a handle on Lua either way

[frank lintel]

one Im looking into debugging has not

[sour island]

Which?

[frank lintel]

superior surviors

[sour island]

That's never been MP compatible to begin with - even before

[frank lintel]

yeah I was looking into maybe fixing some stuff and look into if its possible that right now Im just looking at why making a workspace doesnt like jdk17

[fast galleon]

@scenic cradlein code far above you make a new isoObject and then try to remove that, what's the point of that?

[frank lintel]

right now that mod slapping me with a UI update error

[sour island]

You're trying to set up PZ lIbraries?

[frank lintel]

yep just started down this road last night using IntelliJ

[scenic cradle]

New to LUA and still figuring out how it all works 😛

[sour island]

Are you using Konijima guide?

It's far easier to use than the original documentation

[scenic cradle]

@fast galleon I figured because I was able to place my tile via Place(square,sprite) a quick modification of that function to add in the removal code should take the input of (square, sprite) and remove them.

[sour island]

https://github.com/Konijima/PZ-Libraries ?

[fast galleon]

would you prefer to remove specific sprites or does it need to be exact location

[frank lintel]

Im just getting hung that the reverse engineering isnt using the same jdk the game actually uses.

yes that page plus pz-zmod and a few other pages

[sour island]

This is the only page you should need

[scenic cradle]

@fast galleon each location has a specific sprite, so I COULD do removal via sprite name if that's possible? May be easier.

[fast galleon]

also if it's just for debugging you can use something even simpler

getSquare(x,y,z), then find object and remove it

local function OnLoad(isoObject)
  local square = isoObject:getSquare()
  if square and etc then
     square:transmitRemoveItemFromSquare(isoObject)
  end
end
MapObjects.OnLoadWithSprite("sprite_tileset_01_0", OnLoad, 5)

[void tiger]

Does someone know what "GroceryBagnumber" is In-Game or how I can find out?

[scenic cradle]

thanks - trying to make semblance of this now to make it work with what I have already...

[frank lintel]

spinning wheel rolling now... and that explains why I was having issues on that page and thought the instructions were too basic cuz I wasnt seeing the highlighting showing the hidden windows on each step... derp.

[sour island]

Ah yeah, there's drop downs for each piece. Unfortunately it's not a quick 1-click to get started.

But intelliJ, with the emmyLua plugin + those steps should set you up for some success.

[barren junco]

do you guys know how to turn a corpse into a skeleton?

[gilded hawk]

setSkeleton(true) java\characters\IsoZombie.java

[barren junco]

thanks

that should work for "living" zombies

[bronze yoke]

that will only work on living zombies

[barren junco]

if i access a dead corpse's zombie would it work?

like IsoDeadBody.character:setSkeleton(true)

i personally dont think so, since wasSkeleton in IsoDeadBody seems to only be assigned at the constructor

and in UpdateRotting()

[frank lintel]

yeah my layout just wasnt making it clear there was more detail to each step but looks like I might be set-up now.

[ancient grail]

Lots of new faces

[bronze yoke]

for corpses, you can use IsoDeadBody:sendObjectChange("becomeSkeleton"), but only from the server (or in singleplayer)

[barren junco]

i see

thanks for the info guys

[bronze yoke]

if you need to do it on a client you might be able to just directly edit the rot stage of the corpse so that it becomes a skeleton on the next corpse update, otherwise you can send a clientcommand to the server to do it

[barren junco]

can you send commands to the server?

that sounds like a security issue

[bronze yoke]

it's just the term, you basically just send a string and a table of arguments to the server and it's up to the mod to handle it based on that

[barren junco]

ah smart

thanks

[plucky mauve]

is it possible to make a mod that changes the aiming guns animation?

[hexed swan]

where could i learn to mod

zomboid

or is there like a documentation that i could read

[jaunty marten]

#1070852229654917180 message

[hexed swan]

Thanks!

[wet osprey]

is there any mod that secure spawns x item in certain locations?

like 100% chance of x item to spawn in louisville hospital

[drifting ore]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38329-customizing-loot-4151/

[drifting ore]

if you are looking for mod suggestions i'd ask in #mod_support

[foggy bone]

hwo does one get into modding this game and resources to lear

[fast galleon]

#mod_development message

[foggy bone]

ty

[wet osprey]

oh thanks, will do

[scenic cradle]

ugh - just more headaches - thanks for the help everyone today; get up and try again tomorrow.

[zinc pilot]

Haven't they announced that inventory management is gonna become server side? I guess that's gonna break a lot of stuff

[sour island]

That'd be up-to how it's handled, but realistically not many mods create items / remove items outside of crafting or recipes.

[barren junco]

any channel where i can discuss pixel art?

[fast galleon]

but a lot of mods track item transfers

[sour island]

track item transfers?

[frank elbow]

For the purpose of modding, or just in general? I'd say maybe #creativity fits best

[barren junco]

modding purposes

[fast galleon]

hook to transfer item

[frank elbow]

Oh, then here I suppose

[fast galleon]

and adding / removing items is not that uncommon generally

[barren junco]

im working on an icon for the cannibal trait, thoughts?

its a liver

[sour island]

Plenty of mods do it, but I'd have to say not that many tbh.

[barren junco]

this is the icon for addict cannibal

[sour island]

Looks like a liver

so there's that

[barren junco]

well nice

[sour island]

What size are these? Aren't traits like 16x16

[barren junco]

18x18

[rancid panther]

the first comment on my mod 🤣

[barren junco]

they can vary in size actually

[barren junco]

lol

[rancid panther]

traits are indeed 18x18

but some traits icons dont touch the edge pixels

[sour island]

I think it looks good, maybe a knife and fork if it's not too much detail to fit?

[barren junco]

i did try the fork but it didnt look that good

i also tried to add a little bite but it just looks weird

[rancid panther]

maybe put a sliced part of the liver

kinda like the icon

[barren junco]

o hey not a bad idea

might be too much detail for the size though

thanks for the feedback

[rancid panther]

i cannot believe the ham emote on the official project zomboid server is named penisham

[sour island]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-motel-preach-clip-the-original-motion-pictures-soundtrack-part2-gun-gif-18198582

[barren junco]

maybe this does the trick?

[barren junco]

lol

[frank elbow]

I can only imagine they saw the Q&A format and assumed it's a FAQ without reading anything

[barren junco]

https://tenor.com/view/moyai-moyai-emoji-moai-moai-meme-moai-emoji-gif-25202348

[rancid panther]

you can also try the trick of the utensil being off the edge a bit instead of fitting the whole thing inside

[sour island]

I chose to be a slightly less mean person today

[barren junco]

not very kind i can tell

but he deserves it

[prisma imp]

Hey y'all, new here. Is there a "Requested Mods" section somewhere?

[jaunty marten]

11111111111

[barren junco]

dont think so my man

[jaunty marten]

u can try in #mod_support mb

[prisma imp]

Darn. We should create a channel for that. Or some way of organizing requests. Id like to learn modding and fulfill requests.

[rancid panther]

some people come here or in #mod_support if they have a commission for a mod but usually ppl dont just make a mod on request

[barren junco]

that would be great

[rancid panther]

but sometimes ppl have an idea or are asking if there is a mod for something, and if there isnt u can help them

[jaunty marten]

u can try to ask devs but they probably won't create it. me tried to ask create #waywo channel 2-3 month ago but nothing

[prisma imp]

I second this measure.

[rancid panther]

also in project zomboid discussions people sometimes post mod ideas or update ideas

[jaunty marten]

ah, btw

u can try to check pz forum

[prisma imp]

Right, but having something more organized than just a chat thread. Easy for things to get duplicated or missed ya know

[prisma imp]

I'll do just that!

[rancid panther]

very tru

[prisma imp]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/55-mod-ideas-and-requests/

If only I spent a few seconds googling before asking lol. Found the mod request page. 🙂

[sour island]

@pulsar heath https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=084ZHk6U_2M Anyway to make zombies talk to you using twitch?

[modern hamlet]

function TestFunction(player, otherPlayer)
    player:Say("x")
    otherPlayer:Say("y")
end

Would something like this work on the client side? Or should I move it to the server side?

[jaunty marten]

why r u want to kill the viewers

[frank lintel]

you dealing with JS or some other way to do the integration?

[rancid panther]

streamer's way of dealing with rage

[frank lintel]

We're here to talk to you about your AIO extended warranty.

[drifting ore]

#mod_support will get you help faster

this is for developing mods

[mint jolt]

Sorry

Thought developers might know

[drifting ore]

all good we all love mods 😄

[frank lintel]

anyone using IntelliJ care to look at zombie/commands/CommandBase.java and tell me if accessLevelToInt is showing up different then the .class file?

[barren junco]

you mean this?

[frank lintel]

yep and do the diff and check out that function pls

[barren junco]

this is the one in the .class

[frank lintel]

yeah and the decompiled one is nothing like that

[barren junco]

yeah

public static int accessLevelToInt(String var0) {
      byte var2 = -1;
      switch(var0.hashCode()) {
      case -2004703995:
         if (var0.equals("moderator")) {
            var2 = 2;
         }
         break;
      case 3302:
         if (var0.equals("gm")) {
            var2 = 4;
         }
         break;
      case 92668751:
         if (var0.equals("admin")) {
            var2 = 0;
         }
         break;
      case 348607190:
         if (var0.equals("observer")) {
            var2 = 1;
         }
         break;
      case 530022739:
         if (var0.equals("overseer")) {
            var2 = 3;
         }
      }

      switch(var2) {
      case 0:
         return 32;
      case 1:
         return 2;
      case 2:
         return 16;
      case 3:
         return 8;
      case 4:
         return 4;
      default:
         return 1;
      }
   }

worst decompiler

[frank lintel]

okay... I thought I was tripp'n

[barren junco]

nah, hope i was of help

i am tripping now actually

[frank lintel]

well Im still wondering which one I should be using honestly I think I grasp why its using hashcodes but I dont wanna assume

[sour island]

The sources received from the process in the guide should provide a .java and .class file - I believe the java is used to compile the lua library.

I always refer to .class for referencing what to do/how things work

[barren junco]

it does feel like the best one to use

[sour island]

I also havn't seen such a drastic difference before though

[frank lintel]

yeah thats where they from I was backtracking why there a .class file in this mod so I ended up back into the libraries when I came across this

I think its to work around issues with character sets

[sour island]

Could be why some people find very odd stuff in the java files now that I think about it

[tribal shuttle]

Hello. I was hoping to make a mod to encourage wider exploration by fuly randomizing all loot containers. Anyone have any ideas where to start? I was thinking about a master loot table injected into all of the container lists, but I'm not sure how to do it.

[fast galleon]

that's the opposite of exploring if you can find everything at one place

https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html

You'd then need to edit tables found in Distribution.lua, ProceduralDistribution, Vehicle, etc?

[sour island]

I think he means make it so containers dont have expected items

If you think about it like a randomizer run for other games

Imagine running into rosewood and it has mall pop

I'm working on a mod that deals with shuffling a list

Idk if it helps, but you could technically try to shuffle the loot tables

[cunning canyon]

How unique are RoomIDs?

and do they change between updates ever?

[calm depot]

I'm moderately sure they're consistent for the lifetime of a save

if I'm wrong, that's a terrible excuse for an ID

[tribal shuttle]

That's roughly the idea. The game's gotten pretty stale for me, knowing where the best stockpiles of any given item are. You can get fully equiped and set for long term survival on Apocalypse in about 45 minutes. So I figure instead of just bulleting over to the local grocery store every game, make it so the goods are thinly distributed across every place. No one place is going to have everything, and I have to do more general building exploration than simply Warehouse > Grocery > Bookstore > GG.

[sour island]

If you understand lua tables you can manipulate it pretty well I'd imagine

[tribal shuttle]

I'm not particularly fluent with lua. But I'm cobbling together a list of item IDs right now. What I don't know is if there's a more elegant solution than overwriting every individual distribution table.

[sour island]

You could scramble them with a single function

[tribal shuttle]

That'd be neat. But alas, no idea how it's done. 🤷‍♂️

[sour island]

let me see if my list shuffler can be used on keyed tables

[tribal shuttle]

It's probably going to require a more nuanced solution anyways. Just scrambling the tables could easily result in items that are supposed to be rare becoming far too common.

[sour island]

You could make it only scramble certain tables I suppose

also it wouldn't make items more rare - just change the locations

I guess it might provide more locations for it to be rare in

🤔

[tribal shuttle]

Take military gear for example. Guns and ammo. The boxes at the military checkpoint have a HIGH chance of them. Suddenly that table gets a chance to be put in ANY container. Guns and ammo everywhere.

Even if the chance of an individual container being a military container is low, the number of containers that end up being military gear is MUCH LARGER by comparison

[sour island]

So you can't simply shuffle the distro list as it's a keyed pair- but you can create a list of IDs and shuffle those

You could also make some exceptions to that rule - or modify values as needed

[tribal shuttle]

Right, I'm just awful at finding what commands let me actually do that. I'm pretty much only self taught via cutting up code from other sources.

[ancient grail]

Epic

All sorts of crazy are found here on this chat

[sour island]

local function scramble()

    local origRoomLoot = {}
    local foundRoomLoot = {}

    for roomID,data in pairs(SuburbsDistributions) do

        for containerID,contData in pairs(data) do
            ---if room's container's data has an items list OR if it has a junk list with items
            if (contData.items and #contData.items>0) or (contData.junk and contData.junk.items and #contData.junk.items>0) then
                ---Add extra exceptions here if needed
                table.insert(origRoomLoot, roomID)
                table.insert(foundRoomLoot, roomID)
            end
        end
    end

    ---shuffle found list
    for origIndex = #foundRoomLoot, 2, -1 do
        local shuffledIndex = ZombRand(origIndex)+1
        foundRoomLoot[origIndex], foundRoomLoot[shuffledIndex] = foundRoomLoot[shuffledIndex], foundRoomLoot[origIndex]
    end

    ---using the original order found replace the entries with the shuffled version
    for n,_ in pairs(origRoomLoot) do
        SuburbsDistributions[n] = foundRoomLoot[n]
        ---Make changes to distro here as well if needed
    end
end
Events.OnPostDistributionMerge.Add(scramble)

Not tested at all

[tribal shuttle]

I guess I'll have to try it out to see then.

[sour island]

edited a typo

This was drafted using media\lua\server\Items\Distributions.lua and media\lua\server\Items\SuburbsDistributions.lua

[tribal shuttle]

Thank you, I'm sure I'll be able learn something about what I'm doing from this.

[sour island]

good luck

[barren junco]

made this little debug menu im proud of

best part? you can easily add/remove traits

[jaunty marten]

global name CONSTANTS is a bad practice

too common name

[barren junco]

its actually not global

but CONSTANT as a local name is probably a bad idea as well

thanks for the feedback though

[jaunty marten]

for local name it's fine

but if it's local then better to name it in lower case

upper case uses for global ones

[barren junco]

oh i see

Lua naming standards

[jaunty marten]

lua have no official code style

but upper case for global it's just a common thing for everywhere

[barren junco]

i see

[jaunty marten]

[barren junco]

thanks for the info :D

i renamed it to config

[jaunty marten]

[frank lintel]

just gonna follow java syntax

[quasi kernel]

Curious question

I may have had a breakthrough for UFP with use of metatables, I was curious if there was a way to get the current mod a segment of code is running from

Or rather, what mod is currently loading.

If so, I might have a major lead.

[bronze yoke]

i don't really know, but fingerprint must do this

so i'd look there

[quasi kernel]

Thank you for the lead

Oh this is interesting

Very strange, but interesting.

Makes sense though.

@sour island If you find some time soon, I may need your help understanding some of your code so I can possibly repurpose it for something else. I'd like to understand what you're doing rather than just copy pasting it, since I don't know if there's unnecessary stuff for what I'm doing or not.

I understand if you're busy too tho, so plz take your time

I might head to sleep soon tho so idk if I'll be here if and when you get here

[kindred dawn]

Anyone think that we should be able to grab house alarms and then use them to attract zombies? Something for a zombie trap.

[weak sierra]

that'd be cool for like.. an advanced noisemaker

house alarms aren't presently a tangible thing afaik

just a chance event per house

[kindred dawn]

Plus, you can’t remove them, or make them currently

So I’m currently trying to make a mod that makes em

Then I need to learn how to make the noise

module Base
{
    recipe Make Home Alarm
    {
        keep [Recipe.GetItemTypes.Screwdriver],
        ElectronicsScrap=5,
        Amplifier,
        Radio.ElectricWire,
        Screws=2,

        Result:HomeAlarm,
        SkillRequired:Electricity=3,
        NeedToBeLearn:false,
        Time:100.0,
        OnGiveXP:Recipe.OnGiveXP.DismantleElectronics,
        Category:Electrical,
    }
}

This is what I currently have to make the Home Alarm

I used the xp for dismantling cause i was looking on the xp for it too

[ancient grail]

Its just addsound
Or fo you want the trigger alarn?
Give it to you later once i get back to my pc . Im afk atm

[kindred dawn]

Would like to learn how to add a way to make it start/stop the noise, like an alarm

[ancient grail]

getPlayer():getSquare():getBuilding():getDef():setAlarmed(true);

[kindred dawn]

Hmm, you think that for certain servers, like rp servers, having the ability to set off Home Alarms in buildings is a good idea?

I don’t do it myself, but you could technically also use that idea to make zombies swarm to that location

Though my idea was just to make it so that a home alarm makes the alarm noise when triggered

I could theoretically add a new “Home Alarm”, by giving it a battery and making it into a throwable too, setting the noise to home alarm…

[ancient grail]

welp this code will sset the alarm yeah but if you are a player then it will also set it off

lol

you have to figure out how to get the definition from outside and stuff like that on your own

[fast galleon]

ah, interesting mechanic

I sometimes think of something similar but I reposition buildings / rooms. (bad idea currently)

[ancient grail]

ya think its possible to have a mod that you can create a container that spawns loot (not modded spawning but vanilla distrib spawning)

have you asked #modeling

[fast galleon]

you mean place tile in world and fill it with items?

[unborn linden]

oh mb wrong chat

[fast galleon]

you can add items vanilla way with ItemPicker.fillContainer(container,getPlayer()), the items will be based on container type and the room.

containerType you normally set in TileZed e.g crate

[ancient grail]

yep

[ancient grail]

then this is a solution for griefed containers?

[fast galleon]

only if container exists already, but it happens automatically if the container hasn't been filled before (explored check?)

but that can be solved with loot respawn so you probably think about placing containers back

[tawdry solar]

is this code correct?