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Sub or Sin for Delves?
whatever you want, it's delves
Anyone else been experiencing lowered FPS until after arelog after playing for a bit?...
I don't wanna say there's a memory leak or something but I didn't have any huge FPS losses or needing to relog last season
Check for addon errors with WAs or other dependencies
Happened to me when i had out of date dungeon and raid WA
so are hero talents staying or not
does anyone have any issues timing a 11 and not getting the dungeon portal?
any credible gearing guide for s3? i'm still 691 now after the vault and i feel like i'm way behind for my ambitions
just play the game
do +10s
if its tazavesh you have to time both halves iirc
nah i have halls 11 timed but no portal, this happened to my guildie last week too
i never timed a 10 halls tho
but i doubt its that issue, i have an eco dome 12 timed (the only eco dome i ever did) and i have the portal
Hello guys, very noob question here. If I don't care about playing Outlaw or Sin (i havent decided), should I open the vault as Outlaw to get me a better chance of getting a weapon? thank you (new rogue)
opposite: outlaw can use daggers in offhand but sin can't use slow 1h in either hand
so open as sin would be general advice, assuming you craft a weapon
up to you though, I suspect opening as law is probbaly slightly more likely to get you a weapon? unsure tbh
yea thats what i was wondering 🙂
I timed a 10 halls and never got the portal. It seems to just be incredibly buggy.
Have a few friends who also didn't get their hoa portal
I have it but got it back in SL
Always and forever
Due to recent behavior from certain members of the Retribution Paladin community—namely, tantrum-throwing, Discord lockdowns, and aggressive buff demands—I’ve decided not to invite Ret Paladins to my Mythic+ keys for the foreseeable future. I’m looking to run clean, focused keys without the drama. Nothing personal.
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Does Shadowmeld/New Potion count toward Stealth and the talents triggered from it? eg. indiscriminate carnage ?
hi, i want to start in wow, i like the game a lot, but don't know what to do exactly, my main goal is being able to play arenas, bc i like it a lot, my favorite class is rogue, so, how should i build my character according my objectives?
thanks
Disc fragment one
Guys any news on how the player houses are going to work?
Like,neighbourhood wise. Like if they are gonna be in the faction capital cities or no.
Setting up a HOA already?
hell nah, i just want to know if i can live in Goldshire or not
!up
guys best spec for m+?
yes
Pretty much what Rick said
the one that you enjoy playing
Good news, it's Rogue


How do you start the vote do deplete a key
start calling your jungler slurs
Bet say less
how does raidbots know how to sim the soleahs trinket
have to type /abandon
or right click your char and select abandon key it will begin a vote
is there a spreadsheet for full bis dps comparing the specs?
Hi im new to rogue and have a question about shadowmeld. On Feral druid i can get my Rake stun by melding so i figured with rogue getting stuff like improved garrote would also work but it seems pretty finicky.
only in m+ pulls not bosses it works to get stealth
hi, if i want to play arena does it matter wich server do i pick?
no
With rogue you need to meld -> stealth
is entropic embrace bugged by the way? (void elf racial)
have it at buff uptime but not in damage breakdown
anyone got a good character panel addon? this is fugly af
Peak visuals
It’s called elvui

I use this one https://wago.io/bRl2gJIgz
Tyfon's Character Sheet is like a nicer version of that one
this is elvui
no?
wait nvm it works
goated
can you change the scale of it tho
its giga huge
You can toggle of the vault/m+ section so it just shows your character
As for scale since it's a WA you should be able to change the group scale size
literally 0 lows with elvui unless you run a potato
What do you guys think of the /abandon feature?
I think its an OK idea but it still let's you be held hostage by a group of people who got a key they cant do and while you can leave after the timer is up sometimes you know a few pulls in it aint happening.
I do wish they would address trolling people's keys next. Ive only had trolling happen a few times but recently had a boomkin (my fault for inviting him) suicide about 20 times and pull mobs into us to stop us from timing near the end of a key.
wraps upgrade window, works everywhere:
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)```
If you think its justified to leave the just leave. If you leave more than average you will get marked. If people think it isnt justified then they wont invite you. Seems to be working as intended.
What does that mean exactly? And do you need to do it on each login or does it save
So you can pull up the upgrade window anywhere?
Isnt that just part of the default ui?
you get this window if you use the macro
somebody with experience pls explain what is the game play difference between furry and outlaw?
both press stuff really fast
warriors can't stealth
So the "overall" gameplay is basically identically? Is that what Im reading?
I don't think anybody knows what "overall" gameplay means to you
Very cool thanks fuu
speed can be comparable but they play very different in my little fury experience
is anyone have issues with HoA portal?
AoE? thunderclap // whirlwind and cast 4 single target abilities
like achieving it
and repeat
everyone it seems
ok phew
Ok man, you don't gotta flex on everyone XD
Done it twice on 10: nothing.
can you expand a bit on that?
Fury is a pretty simple rotation, outlaw has more nuance in terms of when to spend what. Also with that, if you make mistakes they can be very punishing for outlaw
So, Fury is more casual but both specs arent really casual because they are high apm?
I wouldn't describe it as casual, but like outlaw has one of the highest skill floors in the game imo, where you need to be doing most things right at all times to do even average dps
Okay, ty for the answer
i guess signet is pretty bad with 1m 30s dm
do i have to keep doing campaign after i get the cloak?
Is sub doing so well in both m+ and raid noisy data or is it genuinely the best rogue spec in all pve right now? Before the patch went live everyone was saying sub for raid assa for m+.
Is sub better for raid st?
I don't think so but there's only 1 pure st fight right
On RWF i only see sub
Exile played sub on Araz, Salhadaar, and currently Dimensius. Assa everywhere else. Perfecto has done the same except also sub on Soul Hunters.
DO I press shiv then DM or DM then shiv
depends which hero talent you are
Exile tried a bit of outlaw on hunters but they didnt kill it that way
Deathstalker just seems insanely difficult to play
Exile had tons of reminder WAs to tell him what boss to have mark on at what times
So his mark wouldnt just jump away
Whereas sub and outlaw you just vibe
yea think most people can take the L on going outlaw/sub
god fucking dammit Blizzard, fuck man you're actually gonna make me download this shitty ass game again. I don't care about anything, any of the arthas, sylvanas bullshit but I do care for blood elves
I'm still mad about shadowlands and the whole jailer shit
Haven't played since
These clowns are gonna make me return by actually making blood elves relevant again after a decade
Is Sub supposed to be the better spec this tier or Assassination?
both work on diff bosses
Stat priority is so different though
Assa has no bad stats so just gear for sub
Literally no
Just dont get haste
And its good
Vers over crit for Assassin?
I have all Sub gear from last tier and I kinda hate the lack of crit
How's the state of the game currently?
I haven't played since about the end of shadowlands
I might have played a tiny bit of dragonflight maybe?
I don't remember shit either, it's all a blur lol
Its good enough
its not even really an L
echo/method both still played sub
Do I like, have to do all of dragonflight? Should I even do that or is it just gonna be war within to catch up to? Not sure how the newer expansions are structured
no
just play the game - get max level
and enjoy TWW while it lasts
and if youre interested in lore or w/e
go back to dragonflight
Just get different rings and amulet when switching, this changes stats plenty
does anyone have issue with plater this season? The plates of my non-target enemies are getting too transparent and its difficult to see what is being cast by which mob especially on large AOE
For some reason I cant find the right setting for this
Hey guys, i want to dip my toes into rogue class for this season as my dps alt (main heal), which spec would you recommend as solid performer that is noob friendly enough?
assa
Under 11.2.5 patchnotes xD
Thank you
Is it just me or is reseting raid bosses with vanish so inconsistent? or am I just stupid 😂
Do you have poisons on whne you do it, or do you take them off?
I do! instant/atrophic causes issues?
Someone save me im getting wow videos of wow andys trying to justify their hate against the one button thing
as an elitist dickhead i like the one button thing because it means the shitters will be less shit
hope this helps
my soul its healing
to bad my youtube suggestions is still hating me, one race to world first vod all to blame smh
yeah
like lets face it
the people who are using it
probabably arent that good anyway
and they're going to be bricking your raids and keys without it
best case scenario they use hekili
but like
not that much diff
I rather have people using the one button rotation than using fan of knives 400x during a boss encounter
i watched it was worse then that
tried to completely ignore the reason it was made in the first place
how dare you let two finger joe do the same damage as a 5 finger moron
even if its still below what any player adapt at their class can do
I tried the one button thing on a profession DK late last season, a full clear of lfr and I learned absolutely nothing.
It's ok to not be a little less than absolutely useless in lfr
I tanked all of normal yesterday on a 680 pressing one button and randomly pressing my cds
I tried to pay attention but after 5 minutes I just mindlessly pressed the button.
I may use it for the drunk social raid
Because I've somehow become the main tank for that 
I am bear
I macroed ironfur and thrash and just... Hit buttons

face key board
as i said
best part of bear
now only if i had the Giga chad bear Visage

I usually just use pinecone bear
Nah I can't remember where it's from maybe balance of power?
Nevermind I think it's just for completing the campaign
Ohh balance of power is neon bear
I'd like to ease back into the season, I wanted to play Outlaw but Assassination seems to be ahead everywhere, and the biggest players are playing Subtlety. Do you have any advice?
nothing is garbage ?
Is there any difference putting the algari diamond gem on the neck vs ring ?
Yeah, one would be in your neck, the other would be in your ring
Nop
only thing garabage is people telling you not to play it
unless its a tank dont Chain yourself like the rest of us
💀
or that ret lately in one of my keys tryin to xplain me how garbage sub is
Due to recent behavior from certain members of the Retribution Paladin community—namely, tantrum-throwing, Discord lockdowns, and aggressive buff demands—I’ve decided not to invite Ret Paladins to my Mythic+ keys for the foreseeable future. I’m looking to run clean, focused keys without the drama. Nothing personal.
guys i have an issue with fps. I get around 30-50 fps all the time. My GPU is 5060 and i see that i use less than 50% during boss fights with max graphics. CPU is at around 20% use. I dont get what is the issue. Is it me or just bad blizzard optimization?
blizz optimization is ass, what cpu do you have?
Ryzen 7 5700X 8-core
yeah thats gonna be your bottleneck, the X3D chips are a lot better for WoW
how is that a bottleneck when its only 20% used??
facepalm
can u suggest what to do now ?
upgrade cpu to X3D, cull all unnecessary addons/weakauras (elvui), there are some optimization guides out there to help performance
13 bucks a month for this.... Damn i got dissapointed
guys just picked up rogue, what spec you recommend to start into m+?
all 3 work but imo sub is not easy at the beginning
outlaw and assa are more simple to do dmg with
ty ty
Are sub and Assa equal in m+ ? i see sub rising on several data sites.
no one is pushing yet so any data to this point is pretty useless
any spec can play the levels that people are playing rn
ok ty
can we reset a boss like hunters or mages with shuriken toss and vanish?
is there a way to sim these entropy fingers?
looks like if you add Entropy via the item search on raidbots, you can then click the + and select which stats you want it to have
Unreliable and not working on bosses most of the time
is there any delve i can just stealth and rush endboss or something?
guys does anyone know what is this frames? i like them alot not only the class colors but overall his hp the enemy hp is that an addon?
i tryed elvUI but holy shit that has alot of setup
what is a gf?
The nameplates are Plater I’m pretty sure
Pretty much everything else is either WeakAuras or ElvUI
Not the name plates the raid frames
all of them take a decent amount of setting up unless you use someone else’s profiles for em
ElvUi setup was diabolical hard 😛
Ye that’s why a lot of ppl use other ppls profiles
Like the profiles in the ss are Naowh’s profiles I’m pretty sure
I think you mean CellUI?
Cell unit frames*
Ya i thing something like that i need to search more
It's cell and cell unit frames, I use it too.
Pretty lightweight and a ton of customization options.
I wish they made a knife throwing midrange spec for rogues :/
Just pretend that Outlaw is throwing knives instead of shooting guns
?
We could make this real if they brought back Shuriken Toss’ ranged auto attacks and made Black Powder a bomb you throw at your target
Thatd be a dream come true.
So much potential
I’d like it a lot since you’d still need to get up close for Shadow Dances but you could afford to move around during downtime. It’s the kind of up close and far away gameplay I’m hoping the new DH is
Yeah, thatd be so cool.
I mean subtlety reworked into a range shuriken spec that during big cds dash into melee to burst only to then dash back out
I feel subtlety has been lost for so long
weird
looks like Naowhs UI
did you mess with your spell queue window a long time ago?
no, I recently changed it to 150
went back between 150 and 250
no difference
Have you tried a different keyboard?
It probably isn't hardware, but it can't hurt to try
Ok im undecided i played outlaw mostly last season then went assas what is best this tier for m+ and raiding
the one you play better basically
I think Sub is starting to go big in keys, you can probably play whatever you want.
None of them are dead
Nah I haven't but the keyboard is fine
I mean it has no isses typing, or being responsive in other game
I also get zero lag like this in other games
Are you playing on your closest server group?
If it seems new your isp could have changed routing
I assume so? Any way to check?
but blue names where complaining last week 24/7 
All 6 of them
Not me! Sub season! Sub season!
Changes recently? I doubt it. You could run a trace route from your command window to see some info
Is it better to play vers gear as assassination or little vers as sub, trying to figure out what to prio as seemingly both specs are played
Also curious how to try and gear for both ass/sub or if it’s not really worth trying to do.
Gear for sub and play assa too. Assa likes all stats you’ll be fine

Yum. I love cake
they should port wow to gamemaker engine
when will wow be on byond
can I somehow focus friendly target and enemy at the same time?
Unbelievably based
Can't wait to run wow in Windows 7 mode to remove frame drops
kinda stuck rn, dunno where else to ask this, but if I just hit 80 on an alt can I get 2 sparks this week?
it says I'm 2/4 for the fractured sparks this season, but nothing I do seems to drop them
There are weekly quests you can do which should give you a spark
yeah I did those
so I have 1 spark now
but if you played last week you'd have 2
so am I just permanently behind a week since I only hit 80 now?
no, you can always drop up to the max amount
okay so I'm just getting unlucky then
been grinding for a few hours now and haven't seen another one
they have a higher chance from the weekly boxes iirc
but yeah for whatever reason you dont get them insta from first thing you do this patch anymore
well I got the initial 2 fractured sparks from the boxes
so I've been grinding random dungeons in hopes of 2 more, but they just haven't dropped at all
yeah not really worth the time, youll probably get them before you have whatever crests you want to use with them
I mean I'm a fresh 80, only 657 ilvl, I just wanted a 691 2h lol
dont care about crests yet
oh a 2h yeah ok that changes stuff
find an easy delve and run it on 8 for hc crests
sparks are probably going to drop before youd have enough
or you can do campaign for the hc crest
don't think I can do 8s yet
you can for sure, it just wont be fast and you want to find an easy one
don't suppose you know which one is easiest do you?
fungal folly or takrethan abyss are easy on most days
alright, will give one of those a shot i guess. ty for the info
but yeah almost every delve has 1 variant that alot faster than others
or well some have multiple
I made a simple text aura if you have the cold blood bug, if anyones interested: https://wago.io/XfVX1CeQC
Anyone know if something changed this patch with shadowmeld->stealth? I used to be able to use it quite consistently outside of boss combat as long as I had no dots on me and didn't get hit by anything. But since this patched dropped even in delves or on raid trash between bosses it doesn't work if anyone else is in combat at all.
Anyone have an issue with tricks of the trade where it won't work even with just the spell out of spellbook?
I have all addons disabled still bugged
Closest issue I have had is forgetting that I need to be in range of the tank to use it 😅
i'm kinda torn between pug progress raiding in HC and M+ because i figured i don't have time for both since bosses like forgereaver took me 2 whole afternoons to finally kill. i feel like HC pugging is a huge waste if time right now because i could do m+ to eventually progress to +10. what would you prioritize? do i fall behind if i don't get curved asap?
M+ gives you more reward than raid imo
Especially if you're pugging or not clearing hc
Plus gives you myth track gear from vault
depends on why you play the game
like is your goal to be full myth track by end of season, without raiding mythic? or is it AOTC? or CE?
i wanna clear as many mythic raid bosses without joining a guild as possible basically.
Any UI addons yall would recommend other than Elvui??
What’s wrong with that
Guys how do I gear up for m+ what’s the route from fresh acc
Nothing wrong with it is a bit intense for my PC I prefer it just want to see what other options there are that people like
On retail?
Yeah
Shadowed unit frames
without joining a guild you're unlikely to kill more than like 2
3 in a good tier
and thats if you can get into a group
Default UI + weakauras + plater is all you need 🙂
i feel like 3 should be doable this tier after nerfs
maybe even 4 if forgereaver get's nerfed hard. saw many people complaining about it and that's it's too hard for 4th boss so a big nerf sounds at least realistic
it already got a big nerf
guys wich gs do i need for m+2 and how do i get to that
I dinged 60 on hc and im considering gold farming in brd. Pickpocketing that is. Can someone advice a specialized build for this. I know a pvp build works fine but mayb i can min max it more.
this is mostly a retail server, you have some classic servers pinned in #classic-discussion
Ok mb
What’s a gs?
gear score, item level
oh, thats handy
I’m essentially playing the same way you do. Being ahead of the curve gear wise is crucial and time is the key. There are quite a few pug communities out there, try to join them and take note of what groups/players are good and join them as a prio. Pugging two Mythic bosses is already perfectly doable this tier.
So
How many of you horde rogues are excited about flagged PVP in the horde areas of SMC when midnight comes out?
I just know y'all are preparing your knives for alliance ganking
The on sight pvp is gonna be fun
I'm currently only 693 with 2 Set and no netherprism and i already struggle to find decent HC groups. My loggs are therefore lacking as well even tho i had multiple top 100 logs last tier
i feel like not doing +10 asap will put me way behind. but in the other hand if i stop HC raiding getting curved will be a pain since i'll compete with many 8/8HC guys
guess i need to quit my job and dump my gf
Seconding this. It's very good advice.
where do i find those pug communities? i'd love to have some decent guys to play with regularly but no chance i can show up on 1 or even 2 fixed dates every week to raid with a guild
Check in LFG during mornings/evenings on Wedn/Thurs, almost always some groups where the comment says it's a community run raid. But as you say, you are already a bit behind when it comes to gear so someone at 705+ is simply going to get taken for those 10+. Running your own keys are a safe bet, that way you can take those overgeared people instead of being passed on.
Ye, running your own key up is absolutely the best way and we're at the point where a +10 is going to be getting a trillion big boy signups
Going hard week 1 for ilevel is always the best bet in any pug situation. I'll always invite experience + iLevel. So having done content or similar content and having bigger iLevel is really important.
sub or assa easier to play? for m+
Fuu is not biased
whats the current raid meta?
i see that rwf guilds are running sub and generally "zerg adds" bosses probably prefer sub
and assa should perform on st but ive seen kush swap to sublet there anyways? idk
well the only 3 actual single target bosses were Plexus the first boss so its a joke
Loomithar which is the 2/3rd boss so kinda w/e but assa does alot of dmg on that
and last fractilus which is like a 10pull boss and assa does perform better there
is there like any reasoning why not run assa on last 2 bosses though? i heard some sht with bugged sets/coldblood but idk
makes sense thx, needed to know what to gear towards
whatever you like more playing
Anyone know some good gold farms for rogues?
Wow token screen, easy to access as a rogue, dont even need stealth

anyone knows what addon this is? (The one that shows Feint with a countdown in the portrait) https://imgur.com/a/strSXe2 Thanks!
help! i can't get a free trinket upgrade 😛
I'm currently wearing 2x 691
In my inv I have 2x 694
I equipped both of the 694 at the same time and swapped them around and relogged...
The game still wants 15 runed crests for each 691 upgrade -,- why?
Is it a trinket you can actually use
yes
As in not a str/int trinket or a tank trinket
so'leah and ... oh wait
nooooo the other tirnket was given to me by a dirty caster! it's an int trinket!
welp, thanks for solving that for me at least
damn the rwf is so much fun, hope the servers arent down for too long
why they nerf dimen as eu going to bed
did they?
is the game like down for everyone rn? stuck perma loading? been trying to get in for a little bit and not seeing many people talk about it
The most perfectly timed outage
is arcane bad at aoe with only 2 set?
not bad, but its gear dependant class
should it be doing 50% of assa dam on ovr
only if they are 20 ilvl below or a FOTM player
3 ilvl lower 💀
probably new player on arcane spree

basically, wow pushed an update which did cause everyone to disconnect, and now pushed a 2nd update because the first one was faulty
i was stuck in a wall
in arakara
and i could move freely
but if i blink
it teleports me back inside the wall
also if i died id always respawn right where i died
lol
best change
Hey, does the Flask of Alchemical Chaos stat buff roll to the next one if I have the Temporal Potion active or does it reset the 30 secs roll timer when Potion is popped?
Alchemical is completely unrelated to the potion
If youre wearing alchemical chaos youre not wearing any tempered flasks
Thus you get all 4 stats from the potion
Oh. I thought Chaos was a tempered flask my apologies. Thanks for that.
All the others are literally named tempered, alchemical is not. So thats the upside you get from having the stats be random
Makes sense. Didn’t put 2 and 2 together haha.
looks like BigDebuffs showing Feint's uptime not CD
ah someone already linked it
i was looking on wago. there are some, but most are slightly outdated
looks like method raid tools
Yo guys how can I change my KIR icon next to my name?
Rogue is definitely the class im worst at
It's just more complicated to play correctly
Sometimes not in a good way
you can
was there an option to use the Raidbots website to check what the best way to spend upgrade currency is? Found the answer.
Its topgear, for the people curious
Does anyone know what is causing the variability in the cast-lag prediction?
I have 25 ping as you can see (or there abouts) yet my cast timers will jump from 20-250ms.
I don't have any issues with connection or lag on any other game
Hello
First expansion ever,
Is rogue really one of the safest picks?
No time to learn and master many classes/ specs.
I want to focus on just one class/ spec to play.
With safe pick i mean does every raid has rogues? And Mm+ is rogue usually prefered in comps?
If you want something truly safe, then go with mage
Rogue is very dependant on class balance, and sometimes you have only 1 spec being good. If you don't like that spec and you're only playing rogue you won't have a good time
Currently all 3 specs are decent
decent to great
idk who told you that, this is not how WoW works
Raids are balanced around having 1x each class by default because every class has some unique raidbuff or utility (and numberwise the balancing is never that far off anyway)
m+ is not "rogue in prefered comps", the overall class that is meta in m+ most of the time is mage tbh
but m+ is also m+, that shit changes its "best comps" every 4 weeks cus they decided that a new dmg profile is the most important thing now 
and mindlessly chasing "the best" is a great way to burn out from the game, the differences tend to only really matter at the absolute highest level really
if i put socket on this does it keep socket if i recraft 720 later on?
YES
caps
sockets remain in the item until new spark
thanks, my horrible vault luck turns around
can there be more than 1 flickergate per delve @mellow pilot i know u spammed them a bit
only ever saw one and a possible now gate
Am I wrong to feel that Crimson Vial is so bad as a healing/defensive button?
Nop, its bad
it's...passable
basically anyone with access to self-healing without talent expenditure has a better self-heal
but not everyone does
no wait, hunter's self-heal is even worse but still free
hunter's doesnt cost energy/gcd no? or I remember it wrong
energy cost on CV is negligible tbh
Its on the gcd yes, but it heals more
like it's one second's worth of energy
it's also 90s CD and you'd have to spend 600 focus in 30 seconds to match CV for CD
Both of them are bad
yeah they're both bad
in general any of the DPS-only classes
have shitty self-heal
even lock isn't good anymore
i mean warlock's insane right?
not really? 1 minute CD for what, 35%?
basically one mins layonhand if you consume a soul shard with it
like this
i was told its insane but Im not sure
it's not actually insane tbh
ya feint op
Lock has shit defensives compared to Rogue
I think the only two classes that can come ahead on sheer raw survivability over like a 4 min fight
are probably a pally and a DK (DPS specs, that is, blood is immortal by default)
There's literally a meme about warlock privilege being able to just stand in every mechanic
Sure they don't have feint but they are far from squishy
Especially for a ranged
Thats an old meme
Warlock is a king in survive fixed number content
I don't see it
like mythic raid
Its not
like you have a 3 min 40% reduction...
not in m+ its dr percentage is low compared to others
If you check death stats on warcraftlogs, which tbf isnt exactly measuring tankyness but its reasonable close
Youll find that warlocks are indeed not the tankiest class at all
like that's not great
i think its strongest spell is none of those you mentioned, its darkpack
Also wcl death statistics would lead you to believe mage isn't tanky either so idk about that
Mythic looks similar but too few parses so its kinda skewed
This is literally showing them as one of the tankiest ranges like I said
Well ofc depends on what exactly youre measuring
surprised at ele sham being this high
don't they have very limited defensives?
People are playing protect the ele
Also idk if it counts as a death if they anhk, like I don't think hpriests revive counts
Not sure on that one though
Like go look at undermine and you'd believe hpriests were gods among men
can items with curios roll with socket?
Hi, I’m relatively new to WoW and I decided to go with the Rogue. I’m level 80 now, and according to Icy Veins I should play Subtlety Rogue while leveling. Should I stick with this spec? I’d like to play both PvP and PvE
if youre new to wow, and you wanna play a class (whatever class) try every spec and play the one you like the most. WoW is a huge game where you can discover pretty much everything, so take your time and explore
@upper veldt okay thank you, then I just try every specc. I'm just a little afraid of the other speccs, because I find subtlety so difficult
Assa is the easiest to pick up and play of the 3, so you should at least try that. Outlaw is a very different spec but people find it very fun
does someone know how to put this circle when a mechanic comes out?
where it says "gravity" i mean
Hello rogue friends, is outlaw playable with a dagger off hand / sub playable with a sword off hand? Id like to craft my weapons as im not going to mythic raid on this character
Sub is technically playable without a dagger offhand but any dagger you buy of the AH is gonna be better than a mythic non-dagger
So you effectively need 2 daggers
@faint bough We are different from everyone else's Outlaw?
The gap is that bad? Shit. If only sub/assa was the combo I wanted to play 😄
How is outlaw with a dagger offhand? awful?
Oh great, thanks
How close are the 3 specs in m+ performance cuz I see all of them played in higher keys
all rogues are good
Ye but I see a lot of sub and outlaw played in higher keys, or are just some sub players swapping asa/sub depending on dung?
its a weakayura
hey how do you do consistent dmg on raid bosses? like we burst high then dmg go low low for me, i get to point waiting for cd n can only mut envenom or re dot
yeah i watched the whyisper vid n he sad we run out of energy n im prob sjust playing it wrong n yeah gotta learn more
Wowhead is a great resource for assassination, also written by whispyr
Just got back to the game. How do I level leatherworking past 60 in dragonflight?
Is it through orders? There are literally no orders for me to fulfill
there are dailies you can do
Npc work orders
are there npc work orders in DF?
Where are they?
i thought its only TWW
also why are you levelling LW in dragonflight?
It's obsolete but yeah
I have the other ones maxxed
Actually I think I still have to max cata I think?
Not sure, there's another one I'm missing
What's a spark
What you use to craft epic items
Bro last time I played was Shadowlands
Matter of fact I've been playing on and off even then, so I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about
Do tww ones
But I haven't even started the Dragonflight campaign
It's weird too because I'm levelling way too fast
ofc you can max it Royal what are we saying
In less than I day I got 67
Literally just by killing shit and doing some random quests
Can you without spark items?
its just going to be more annoying and easiest way to be done with sending orders from alts
He doesn't know what sparks are
Nor if he still gets them
He's in dragonflight
Unless
So I'm cooked basically lul
The weekly quests from the profession trainers give profession exp
I suppose I could do alt orders, but would that even do anything?
And can you even doing it since that sounds like idk
something Blizzard wouldn't like?
how about you start with reading the wowhead dragonflight professions system revamp
IF there are weekly quests
and then go from there
I've gone to the profession trainers in the artisan's place thingy
I don't think there are any quests
I've learned every recipe there is
Except the ones that you can only learn by getting "knowledge points"
But I have no idea how to get those since I've already levelled up the other recipes
Do I just like, keep killing shit and hopping for rare drops that will get me those?
Ryler just told you a way to get more knowledge about the whole system
Wait that doesn't even work because it would be skinning knowledge, not leatherworking
Oops, sorry, yea
I'll look into it, mb
Didn't meant to ask to be spoonfed lol
It will be a waste of your time most likely
its been a while since I lvled but I dont think you needed spark crafts that early, wasnt it only for like the last 10-20 points
it did vary per profession tho
there was 1 or 2 that you didnt even need those at all
I was under the assumption we were talking about the last 10-20 points
At least with LW I needed spark crafts to max it
I'm at 65
but pretty sure sparks still drop, I remember looting some doing mount runs
in DOTI
Thanks, I'll keep playing and cross that bridge when I get to it lol
at least this one was kinda easy
Where does TWW even take place, is it next to the big fuck off sword?
Did they change how macros work?
Not really
Why can't I move the windows?
My addons are a bit of a mess
Which addons to people use
I'm getting something to replace moveanything
might as well get the rest
I second shadowed. I like Dominos personally for action bars and to get rid of the talking head
I also use a basic almost one line addon to anchor my tooltip to my mouse instead of having it statically in the corner
Hey guys, on Dimensius (at least on n) is there a way to predict the little knockbacks (when and what angle you get pushed back)?
(on last phase)
About leveling Leatherworking in Dragonflight: I seem to remember you could make trial chars, go to Valdrakken, get your free sparks, send work orders to the char leveling the profession, delete trial char and repeat. Wastes some resources but gets you to a 100.
Sup my fellow Rogues,
i have my paladin on lvl 80 now & want to skip the campaign at O'men.
But its not available for me.
I killed dimensius & completed the main story line.
Can you please advise if I have to do the Garden quests too?
can some WA expert help me create a WA that only shows up when my energy gets below 80 (or 40%) to no accidentaly use a thistle tea charge by hitting the threshold?
or is there any other way to prevent it?
You don't play around your teas
just seethe and cope
hello guys quick question, are we supposed to play assa in key or we can we pump with sub?
sub is good in keys, so play what you like more
aight thanks
is there a way to unlock all the upgrades of sirens isle ring in one go ?
on a new charachter ( i done it before on main )
The tank being meleed causes a knockback to anyone near them, it knocks back from the position of the tank
another season, another group of mages not doing any dam
they either blast or are meh
No but it's nerfed to shit now so prob just regular ilvl from new content will be better
650 is adv gear, no reason for circes circlet anymore
yeah i just went to grab it real quick as i had Dragonflight gear
congrats to all 3 guilds
was a insane race
also method did play very clean, the gap between the 3 is closing so fast
It's actually cool to see that Method did it in 313 pulls, 80 pulls faster than the other two (yes they had info on the fight already)
not really, method distant 3rd they had to do 0 innovation
its not about the kill time
would have been funny if t hey managed to get 2nd after echo played till 5am I guess
echo would be 40 pulls less if they did not play into fatique/tiredness yesterday
is sin the go to spec for m+? been playing outlaw and I like it. been a few seasons since i played it, is it easier on the fingers than outlaw?
If you like outlaw, just keep playing outlaw
yeah i think i will
i dont like how the CPM is on outlaw, but it feels great to play again
Are sub and outlaw as bugged as assa rn?
whatever you like the most, assassiantion is still the most popular in m+ due to how strong it was in the last 3-4 seasons. Subtlety sees some play currently due to the tier set and strong burst it offers.
does cloak allow you to move with the mail on the mail boss hard mode?
i dont thinkso
you can throw it to yourself
throw, sprint, pick up throw again
or grapple
I got a w today because I reached deep in my pocket and slanged some black powder in a 10 this morning and it took my tank friend by surprise how good sub is
I told him that the rumors of sub's demise are overstated (partly because we're the one spreading them :))
hi guys i wanna join sum active guild if possible on retail wow
Subs demise rumours aren’t relevant to this season lol
Yeah but don't tell em
Sorry if this has been pinned somewhere - any best practice for having stealth not change actionbar 1? new to rogue
not if thats a possibility but you can just hide actionbar1 off to the side and put ur stuff on another bar
there are addons that do that
bartender does this
my bars don't change in/out of stealth at all
thanks
Outlaw was the most bugged spec in all of wow pre subterfuge fix
They fixed almost everything on that season i dont remember when we got those fixes
Its not omega bugged anymore
Still has some tho
Oh maybe some things are hero talent related dont work i take it all back
Or bugged idk
What the hell is this millenial writing
I've only done a few DF quests and I keep seeing stuff like this
I'm not asking WoW to read like the bible, but seriously
How do you expect me to take the story seriously when you do stuff like this, breaking the fourth wall?
I know wow has done stuff like this before too, but it was usually done sparsely, it reads like a "that happened!" marvel quip
They couldn't be content with 1 joke answer either, there are like 5
imagine reading the quest text

bee questline bis
i think WoW playerbase hate ghostcrawler right?
most of the wow playerbase doesnt even remember ghostcrawler
a no would suffice lol
i keep mixing him and Pendragon up
fuck pendragon

lollllll
i swear that has to be photoshopped
because the more you look at the eyes
the more unnerving they are
maybe its just bad lighting
uneven i would say
that also
im too busy cracking up to notice that
i swear t11 feel like they have a eth gate 90% of the time
and the odd percent they dont, the bountiful ones spawn out of flicker
ive knocked out like 12 T11 delves across shitter alts today and 9 of them had eth gates at the entrance
why's it take longer to get a group for HoA? are people farming that 1 sec cast trinket?
Halls is pain for a lot of pugs
Oh so they're more selective? 🙂
Which spec is more méta actually ? I see a lot of thing on a lot of forum. Sub is that good to be S tier or assa is better ?
All specs are good rn
how come when i try to whisper the leader of a group in group finder or when i have to boost someone
when whispered it says ' x player isnt currently playing ? " when they clearly are ?
do not disturb or smt ?
Could be opposite faction
ah fr ? i didnt know u couldnt whisper opposite faction
maybe a dumb question, whenever i switch talent loadouts, it automatically adds either numbing or atrophic poison to my action bar. how can i stop it from doign this?
Thats how @zealous halo look IRL
Wtf
Is there a tww delve weekly difficulty wa?
I think you have to apply to the group for your /w to get through to the other faction.
legend ty
I like the spin 🙁
Is there a way to craft for both sub and assassination?
That definitely feels like it happens in my guild
I wrote an entire raid guide for my guild this season and then half of the people didn't read it.
Mastery vers with a side of crit. Pins in #subtlety are super useful
Thank you!
Hello
anyone know's how to turn these off?
i've been clicking everything but they just won't go away 😄
The gobbler spec

Sub is pretty chill too, just dont get haste
Outlaw unfortunately a bit cringe in terms of gear with the haste cap
ye
but even then
in current season
the only slots you can chose anyway are jewels
so
whatever
just get m+ ring and go
only annoying thing is you cant flex your weapon crafts
Ye banger, we love gearing in worldofwarcraft

Idm I hate gearing up and this makes having a set of gear for each spec easier since it's all the same anyway
Is it a good idea to spend gilded on crafts at the mo or should I hold a few to beef up my hero gear later
on crafted weapon yeah, if you dont already have a myth track one
I looted myth track weapon in very first vault and crafted 720 belt just to get rid of the disc thing.
Replacing disc belt with a craft is likely a lower upgrade than any other crafted piece
That may be so but I am raiding heroic and gain more damage by paying attention for 10 minutes continously than the +0,2% any other craft would give me 😉
what does one thing has to do with the other
I’d take a free 0.2%
But not everything in wow has to be min max if you’re just chillin
Nothing. I just don't play high enough content for it to matter. Longterm I will craft belt with embelishment anyway, so I'm doing it now instead of later.
personal preference on that belt emb?
We usually advice wrists + weapon for assa
I have a 723 from vault, will be a while before crafting a weapon.
oh you're not going for ascension then
which spec of rogue is best for 11.2 ? assa lacks St alot it hurts
All are good, play whichever you prefer
guys I've got that shit in the middle of a screen how to turn that off
it's pissing me off and I can't find what it is xD
thats a WA most likel
was it pedro?
Do you count for soak on araz mythic if you cloak?
idk i guess i killed everything xdd
/radar
wdym? sry new to the game
Oh type in the chat box /radar
see if that removes the radar you wanted gone from your screen shot
or type /range
that will work 100%
range opens the little circle/radar
Ya you wanted to close that right?
hey there been playing wow for prob 5 or 6 days and just did my first M+ but I sometimes pop off in the dmg and other times I dont Idk I think its becasue of my rotations and energy management any tips or can some1 help me? Im still really new to the game
better to go to #assassination
Goto DBM, open the Global Disables and Filters section. You should be able to turn off whatever you like in that section.
It should be the Do not show Timers for dungeon/raid bosses
4 down from what you have selected on the left side
all is ticked off
I highly recommend if you're new to the game to have some sort of visual reminder for boss timers, You want to eventually train yourself to know when things are about to happen
Depending on how you set it up. For example i have the most recent boss attacks/alerts appearing under my combo points/roll the bones buffs.
Alerts coming later will appear over the details damage meter. Eventually they will move to the most recent section. There are weak auras you can use instead of dbm or big wigs too. If you prefer a different system
got it
!wa
Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.
whats performing better for m+ rn sub or sin?
sub because of all the sin bugs
these ethereal portals truly make delves for alt vaults so easy. Getting some T11 delves done for gilded, or just T8 for vault
I cry every time I see a portal, especially in the start of a run
i just did 2 t8 fungal follys and portal was right at the rez stone
ran through on prot pally, pull everything
But why
does t11 delve still give overcap crests?
Hello guys how I can remove my combo point under my heal and energize perso please ?
Its a one time quest
Should be doable any time
SV main, curious what spec would be suggested to me?
I've only ever tried out sub rogue, as deathstalker. it used to be my main in Legion
If the question isn't "what should I play to solve this or that encounter" but simply what you should play the answer is always the spec you like most so try them all. That said sub seems to slap a bit more but assa should be easier to learn. Outlaw is for young whippersnappers with factory new wrists.
deathstalker sub isnt nearly as much fun as trickster is, you should try trickster instead!
In a good way
does sub have any prio/funnel?
I have a question sub or assassin for raid ?
Both are good
The question is, which one do you enjoy more?
My current view from the log data is essentially:
Plexus: Assa
Loomi: Assa
Soulbinder: Sub/Outlaw
Araz: Sub/Outlaw
Soulhunters: Depends on strat, all viable.
Fractilus: Assa
Nexus: Sub/Assa
Dimensius: Sub/Assa
But, this all depends on gear availablity, skill level and raid level, so is essentially irrelevant.
the really big question is what to do on m+. Cuz im trying to push some and they still are making changes with bugs
Play the spec you enjoy the most
Yeah
Good prio, almost no funnel
Hi there, i just came back havnt playes since War within came out, im trying to get "Critical Chain" on the delv belt, but everytime i complete the skittering breach delv nothing happens, any1 know if its bugged or?
check your bags, you shouldve gotten an item to use that gives it
I think it's an item
ty guys ❤️
i tried to play assa on soulbinder, GM shouted on me to play Sub, looking on logs and play the spec that is performing
Soulbinder is really not a boss that requires comp switches, he's easy
Tell your GM to stop being an idiot
Its the second boss and is arguably easier than boss 1, if your GM is demanding spec swaps for him then I dunno what to tell you
Other than run
I fancy more sub so it is good to me but I assumed assa should have destroy boss with funnel on adds spawn timer, but bug is in the way of my perception 🙁
I know it is easier, but we were struggling on it as adds doesn't go down quickly, same people keep dying with CDs and Pots up, but yeah we are requested to play parsing specs
If you really want to push m+ you have to play both assa and sub
If you are just kinda pushing, play whatever
What’s the easiest way to clear delves? I’m a new rogue and feels like it’s taking forever
do what is mandatory to clean delve, check for portal and subzone to end it quickier if available. Brann on Healing spec, and take survivability talents
If you're playing a spec with trickster, running that for 1h tricks makes it a breeze
Do I put tricks on brann? Does it matter if he’s heals or tank?
Always tricks brann
If you ever feel bad about the sounds he makes when mobs hit him tell him it's payback for all the times he pulled random stuff in my delves
Generally you'll want healer brann because tank brann sucks
idk why people do this
it feels so bad cus he dies and runs around aimlessly
its delves, just pick up his heal pots and you are immortal by default lol
it makes life easier
Yeah he runs around aimlessly in triangles but also it meant I could trivially do an 100 deathless at 670 without having to think about his pots
It's slower but it's actually negative iq as long as he doesn't run out of the boss room
meanwhile brann:

Yeah
Brann has left the group
ya idk u stealth past 70% of the mobs and just blow them up with sudden demise/dance/subterfuge if you can't stealth them
doesn't really make sense to me
what are early sources of Hero track gear for a alt charachter ?
Delves with maps*
and delves 8 or above on the vault
If I want 2/3 geared rogue specs should I have an alt for each since I’d get targeted vaults or is that kinda dumb?
assassiantion/subtelty have similar stat preferences so you should be able to paly them at the same time without problems
how are people getting 2 sockets on their rings?
You can buy settings in the AH and add those to each ring.
Rings and neck can be "enchanted" with settings, each setting adding a gem slot, max of 2 per ring/neck
Yes. And no this has been around since DF. Although in DF it was only for the neck. And it was 3 sockets on the neck back then
damn crazy how I've missed this for 2 expansions
Yeah you can get 6 sockets basically for free
heya guys, i am back from vacation and i will start the new xpack. i mainly do m+ and sse that sub is above all, should i switch to sub (spec that i love) from assa that was great last season or is it just because it is the start and it will fall off compared to assa ? should i bother switch or not worth ? thank you guys ❤️
if you are comfortable on assassiantion, its still good
if you want to play subtlety, sure go for it
sorry for asking, i know that it's not an accurate question but i do because i mainly play pugs, so if i invest my time in the wrong spec i'll pay cash my wrong choice 😄
well
you chase a moving target
subtlety is strong atm because physical damaeg combos are popular, and at least the current m+ enviroment does allow it to perform well
however, this could very well be a temporary situation, performance goes down when pulls become too longer, diffrent group constellations as well as bugfixes or buffs to other specs.
so if you want to invest your time and always play the best spec w/e, you need to learn both




