#assassination

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bleak sky
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yeah but yknow

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brazil belarus russia china got it kinda rough

balmy condor
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Minalbasap for 39th president of Brazil

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#misterballsack2024

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Or 2023

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Idk when you guys have elections

bleak sky
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vote for me upvote

lucid birch
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Do you guys have coquis there

bleak sky
bleak sky
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maybe we do, maybe we don't

lucid birch
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It’s a noisy frog

balmy condor
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It’s like a whole thing for him

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Like “aaaa I won’t kiss a woman yuck”

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Dunno

bleak sky
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yeah that sounds pretty gay ngl

lucid birch
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It’s just a phase

bleak sky
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google says we don't have coquis

lucid birch
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Ah

bleak sky
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so I trust them YEPPERS

balmy condor
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It’s on the internet YEPPERS

lucid birch
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They’re from puerto Rico but have made it to other places

bleak sky
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gotta export those frogs

lucid birch
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A frog export emote would be a great lore emote right about now

trail mica
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Off-topic question: sepsis lines up with vendetta with dusk?

lucid birch
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That’s the most on topic question I’m sure you will get an answer from a rogue player shortly

balmy condor
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Vend is 1 min

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Sepsis is 1:30

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Let me find you one of my books to read

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Here you go

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Summer reading

lucid birch
bleak sky
balmy condor
vestal wren
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🐸

lucid birch
trail mica
timid cloud
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Me when y’all say you want to nerf the daggers & play IQD.

trail mica
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IQD getting removed is the dream

vestal wren
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there are quite some good alternatives to iqd

timid cloud
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Don’t you dare say the Ocarina.

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I will scream.

balmy condor
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IQ D
D got smarts
D is beautiful
D is art

timid cloud
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OR the Tazavesh sack.

bleak sky
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hopefully we still run phial

trail mica
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I love using the decanter for the red whoosh

bleak sky
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the raid trinket? that's dead for sure

trail mica
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The "pouring wine over your enemies face" trink

timid cloud
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That’s even worse.

trail mica
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You feel so superior that you have enough time to pull out the glass of wine and just throw it at the enemy

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The ultimate insult

slow forge
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who?

lucid birch
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Whispyr

slow forge
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I did a key with Whispyr once

lucid birch
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I’m sorry

bleak sky
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whispyr is washed, watch minalba he's goated

slow forge
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Imagine a feral ahving to tell the group that Whispyr was my boy

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so he can do a 15

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casuals r fun to pug with 🙂

rotund oak
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fukin giphy

lucid birch
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Thank you

slow forge
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sheesh ur makin the rogues look bad here

lucid birch
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According to your bio you aren’t helping much either

slow forge
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woah woah woah

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im a feral main as of right now okay

lucid birch
timid cloud
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I wouldn’t openly admit that.

slow forge
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you know how many iterations of my about me

timid cloud
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Not in a million years.

slow forge
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me and that chat has done

timid cloud
bleak sky
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wait

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alliance player

rotund oak
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u gonna have more of those by the time 9.2.5 is out

slow forge
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I find fun guild that i like regardless of faction

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but nelf is hot

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so

bleak sky
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wrong chat meant to type to someone else trust

rotund oak
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Humans>all

slow forge
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raiding alliance is more of a bonus ngl im content with both factions

trail mica
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Imagine transmog actually looking good

balmy condor
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Or not

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Idk

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But it’s like

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Pretty often

slow forge
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I was like bro i know this name KekW and u actually had IO

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i was so lost

balmy condor
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My io is pathetic I haven’t pushed in months

slow forge
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tbf it was for a 15 KekW

balmy condor
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My parses are drippy though

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But yeh idk

slow forge
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im juicer

balmy condor
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Daammmn

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Calm down man I don’t have the red carpet ready

slow forge
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Im only rerolling rogue cuz i love this new build coming up

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4pc + duskwalkers

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is literal Kreygasm

solid venture
slow forge
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i was juicin it

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yo where do i find info on conduits for 9.2?

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i assume wps and septic

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whats the 3rd?

solid venture
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lethal poisons i think

bleak sky
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has a spreadsheet with sims

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you open them up and see how the character was set up

slow forge
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oh bet

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appreciate u

bleak sky
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appreciate whispur he does the shit

slow forge
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damn feral is literally just shit posting LOL

bleak sky
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I'm just a bot in here 🤖

slow forge
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I think i gotta go talk to the ferals it seems bad for PR

balmy condor
bleak sky
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what else are ferals gonna do though

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everything is in shambles

timid cloud
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Feral is what Rogue could become if we get too nerfed.

slow forge
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Wait will i get lobbed for shit posting Hmmm

timid cloud
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No. I do it constantly until Whispyr gets a headache.

bleak sky
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I don't know how ret chat is still not insane

slow forge
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oh

timid cloud
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Just has to go lay down.

slow forge
balmy condor
slow forge
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dont test me

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you can ask the feral TCs

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im known around the grove

balmy condor
slow forge
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D:

bleak sky
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aren't all feral mains furries

slow forge
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THOSE ARE MY BOYS

timid cloud
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weewooblue ADMIN ABUSE Siren

slow forge
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Ferals are literally just rogues if you guys were furries

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and im not gonna cap

bleak sky
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so blizzard is correct on nerfing ferals

slow forge
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theres a good portion of u guys

bleak sky
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furries are not people

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but I'm not kink shaming

slow forge
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thats what a furry would say

timid cloud
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There’s more Feral TC’s than there are actual designers for that class.

slow forge
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i tried

balmy condor
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TheSteve TheGoat

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Actually ruined all sub rogue parses for the last month

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Legend

bleak sky
balmy condor
slow forge
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okay so i think im failing to understand here do i reup garrote + rupture at the end of vendetta or do i apply a fresh set at the end?

timid cloud
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aPES_Think Might be right on that one...

slow forge
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will reuping overlap the snapshot

timid cloud
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CT isn’t baseline & FOK gives shit for CP...

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Same concept of Primal Wrath for Ferals....

slow forge
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100% faster tick rate and the halved duration are snapshot at time of cast. This means you should be casting rupture and garrote at the end of vendetta to get as much uptime on the empowered bleeds as possible. This is a feature.

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meaning do i totally ignore garrote and rupture in the beginning

mint seal
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Does that mean that when there is already a garrot and rupture on my target, and I press Vendetta, the tick rate is untouched?

slow forge
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no the tick rate should snap whenever vendetta is cast

bleak sky
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it doubles

slow forge
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so pre-existing dots should benefit from 4pc im just wondering if i ignore my garrote + rupture in the opener now

balmy condor
bleak sky
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why would you ignore those

slow forge
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This means you should be casting rupture and garrote at the end of vendetta to get as much uptime

timid cloud
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That’s it, I’m sick of it.

bleak sky
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vendetta lasts for 20 sec

slow forge
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oh hold on im like actually so small IQ its disgusting i read that like a toddler

balmy condor
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You get your dots up, then press vendetta, vendetta doubles their tick rate, you refresh them at halved pandemic because half the duration, you repeat the process until the end of vendetta, where you apply one final set of dots before it expires, which then hang over, you let those time out, apply dots normally until the next time you hit vend

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Rinse repeat

slow forge
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yeah its dynamic

slow forge
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ferals last snapshot isnt dynamic so i was thinking it wasnt going to be

bleak sky
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see apl for how stuff plays out

slow forge
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dynamic snaps are where its at bro damn

balmy condor
bleak sky
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poison bomb is good Copege

vestal wren
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image shadowblades actually being strong

balmy condor
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Our talent rows are so pathetic good god

bleak sky
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is shadowblades stronger for sin than it is for sub?

balmy condor
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No

bleak sky
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thank god

balmy condor
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Well

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It has synergy

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Garrote ticks count for blades

bleak sky
balmy condor
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Cause it’s a generator

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Just like sepsis + blades works

bleak sky
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that's nice

slow forge
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is there a ruleset on holding vendetta for septic or must i always sync?

bleak sky
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read the book prayge

bleak sky
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you sent this person a link to a link

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you degen

balmy condor
slow forge
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ty

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that clears up all my questions for now

placid pagoda
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Does Valor get reset on new patch?

bleak sky
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yes

placid pagoda
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Okay so no point farming it

mint seal
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The gap between NF and Venth doesn't seem really big atm. Is venth going to be easier to play because of the 1min sync with Vendetta?

dapper tulip
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assuming I'm starting a fresh character and just hit 60, which legendary is best to go after for Sin first?

bleak sky
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obedience I guess since you're gonna be using that for a while until 4pc

dapper tulip
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is Renown 48 difficult to reach? I haven't played in some time.

bleak sky
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no

late bolt
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No, u can buy an item to get to 40

cobalt flame
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Idk if I am blind or what, but what soulbind is bis in NF, dreamweaver?

oak sky
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yeah

celest jacinth
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Do you need to bother with the other covenant campaigns when swapping to/between them?

oak sky
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only for soulbinds if you dont have them unlocked from another character

bleak sky
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agreon for cf prayge

celest jacinth
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Trying to decide on cov going into 9.2, main focus being M+ with mythic raid prog on the side. Currently venth

rotund oak
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Open ur spell book,go in the Subtetly tab and press activate

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especially if u ''focus'' m+

bleak sky
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assassin is also 100% fine for keys, just doesn't bring enough for the higher end

rotund oak
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everything's fine until u hit a ''wall''

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sub is just better

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but for raids lets go,im down for assa as well

bleak sky
rotund oak
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i mean a dmg wall or a mechanical wall

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assa doesnt have acrobatic strikes or the sub funnel

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the number can be 20 can be 30,its relative to the individuals mastery lvl i think

celest jacinth
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Yeah maybe it is time to at least dip my toes back into sub.

rotund oak
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sub is legit out of the 3 rogue specs

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right now

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by far

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the best

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in terms of relative power

azure shoal
ornate dawn
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Damn the Phial nerf

lavish hazel
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in sin is it better to build leg nf on chest or legs ? or put set pieces and craft in on feets

rotund oak
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both chest and legs are tier set slots so no and no

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its either waist or wrist

lavish hazel
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wrist ?

rotund oak
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wrist

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bracers

lavish hazel
rotund oak
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...........

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u dont know what memory of unity does do u

lavish hazel
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i became on the game from 4 months stop

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no i dont

rotund oak
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anyway once u complete campaign in 9.2

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and reach revered with a faction

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u can eitehr buy a waist legendary

lavish hazel
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where can we buy it ?

rotund oak
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that has ''carved'' on it all the convenant legendary powers

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in zereth mortis

lavish hazel
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oh okay nice

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thx

rotund oak
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2nd thing u can do

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is buy the ''memory of unity''

lavish hazel
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we can buy rn ?

rotund oak
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no

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u need campaign and revered with a faction

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9.2

lavish hazel
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oh okay

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thx

rotund oak
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u need to understand though

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memory of unity

lavish hazel
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a faction u mean like one of these ?

rotund oak
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enables u to craft ''unity'' in every slot u want

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Yes

lavish hazel
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ok nice

rotund oak
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that ''unity'' does the same thing as the legendary waist u can buy

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has ''carved'' on it all convenant legendary powers

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so,when u swap from kyrian to venthyr,it swaps from echoing reprimant to flaggelation automatically

upbeat needle
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PHIAL NERFED BOYS WE HAVE TO RIOT

charred wraith
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what why

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finally diff trinket for a change

bleak sky
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we don't know that yet SMH

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wait for sims

upbeat needle
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MINAL WE HAVE TO RIOT MAN

bleak sky
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i'm talking about the "diff trinket" comment

charred wraith
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i mean yeah i know, it can still be the best but it opens up a bit more options

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not that there are any interesting ones anyway pepeclown

upbeat needle
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Trinkets are pretty dogshit this expac anyways

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Bring back Harlan’s Loaded Dice, where the bfa time waking at

solid venture
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spyglass PagMan

azure shoal
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bring back spinners Boomer

heady kayak
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Bring back cannonball runner PiratePoggers

rugged blaze
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spyglass and loaded dice, lets pretend we're outlaws 😄

rotund oak
viscid spear
bleak sky
alpine latch
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Ugh, ironically on Horde side all I can find is ranged. I actually need melee for once... wtf. lol

neon cloak
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Guys, do i need to farm anything pre patch?

limber lion
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No, you're good

slow marsh
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Renown

tribal mauve
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yea korthia rank 6 pepeclown

slow marsh
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And probably some potatoes

neon cloak
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SR?

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SC*

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Soul Cinders i mean 😄

limber lion
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I mean you need the same amount that you would need for an existing 262 legendary

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so you can just destroy your old legendary

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and you get the materials back

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then just make a new one

neon cloak
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cool

dark token
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Surprised phial nerfed but not faulty counterweight

timid cloud
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Faulty might not even be amazing for us since we won’t have winds anymore, a time old discussion.

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Just praying the raid trinkets aren’t dog.

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I’d rather it not so I can focus on only the ring.

earnest grotto
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Stat prio for Sin isnt changing for 9.2 correct? still haste>crit?

vestal wren
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versa iirc is not that great in 9.2

bleak sky
earnest grotto
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just asking for leggos

cerulean nest
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people plan on staying venth until 4p for raids and necro or venth for m+?

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for necro raid/m+ should we be using deathspike or what?

bleak sky
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same as live I guess, zoldycks/doomblade if necro in M+

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idk though

cerulean nest
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im probably sticking venth for both until nfae

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so I guess just full send obedience

limber lion
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Obedience until 4p, Dusk single after 4p

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Dusk/Deathspike m+ with both or Dusk/TO in raid

brazen zodiac
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rad

cerulean nest
bleak sky
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yeah there's no reason to stick to a covenant ig

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play whatever is best/more fun at X content

cerulean nest
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I was just confused by the wording

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but yeah I figure necro will remain good/fun in m+ and venth will be good/fun in raid for the most part

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until 4p+double leg

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oh wait I see what he's saying. venth + obe until 4p, then necro + dusk until both leggos. then dusk/death for m+ or dusk/TO for raid from then on

charred wraith
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btw, new lego ranks are crafted for cosmic flux, which isnt capped and comes from new location + raid + m+ + pvp, right?

cerulean nest
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not sure about cap, but sources yes

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i assume some BS mission table too lol

slow marsh
brazen zodiac
cerulean nest
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there's one guy in my guild who's unironically obsessed with it

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legit does 30+ missions a day, every single day

placid cobalt
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guys, assuming 4p, what non covenant leggo would we play in keys? still dusk or something else?

brazen zodiac
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if u read a few lines above you'll find the answer

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plus if u check pins itll tell u a lot too!

placid cobalt
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oh sorry didnt see that

brazen zodiac
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@gusty mirage where r u >:(

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oh hey no need for apology my good sir!

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sup mav

glass tulip
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its his 4 day weekend he'll be mad at pings pepelaugh

carmine token
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Check the pins!

brazen zodiac
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oh no oxi gonna yell at me

placid cobalt
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also maybe im dumb and apologize in advance if i missed any pins, but was wondering with 4 piece set, is crimson tempest comparable or better than poison bomb in ST or it's still behind? with it being a bleed and all

slow marsh
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its comparable

placid cobalt
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so is there a chance it would see play? i really hate having to talent into it, so if it became no brainer choice it's sort of like it being baseline 😄

slow marsh
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big chance

placid cobalt
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nice nice

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ty

brazen zodiac
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ct pretty rad

glass tulip
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stop telling people this

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dont do that

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to the leggo question^

uneven hamlet
safe barn
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if mystler doesn't update the wa for 9.2 we riot

cerulean nest
# glass tulip

now I just want the same timeline, but with talents lol

glass tulip
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give me a sec

cerulean nest
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bless

limber lion
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Ep/ma/mfd with venth until 9.2, ep/sub/ds as necro/fae with 4p

glass tulip
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ezclap

limber lion
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Ct on multiple targets, pb on single

cerulean nest
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ez

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"until 9.2" you mean until 4p?

placid cobalt
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@limber lion so you don't think 4 piece will benefit CT enough to make it the go to choice for single as well?

slow marsh
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it's not better ST no

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it was really close when 2p was 100%

glass tulip
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I think so kanye

cerulean nest
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cool

placid cobalt
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bummer, i want ct baseline XD

glass tulip
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disgustang

slow marsh
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a lot oof people want CT as a baseline skill

cerulean nest
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well it was ONE OF YUZ

placid cobalt
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i mean, i just think it's kinda dumb for our aoe finisher to be a talent. The second best thing to it being baseline is it being strong enough to be always picked 😛

glass tulip
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but why would you want to spam an aoe finisher in ST

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I just dont follow that logic

slow marsh
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CT is about as strong as it'll get in ST right now

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Nadjia obedience

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if you really wnat to play CT in ST and have hte gear for it

placid cobalt
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i mean i'd like to see actual sims of CT vs PB with 4 piece tier

slow marsh
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I get that

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But just trust that as of now you take CT in most of the fights since theres only 2 ST fights

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Unless something changes and/or PB takes over for some ST prio something weird

placid cobalt
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like on live servers, my rogue sims 258 dps more (2.3%) with PB compared to CT. According to pins, tier set does nothing for PB, so im curious as to how far behind it actually is, that's all

slow marsh
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tier affects pb pretty sure

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pb is a poison

placid cobalt
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oh, then i missed that completely, and it makes sense now how it would not become better 😄

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yy it says does work on poison bomb, so i guess there's that

slow marsh
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ye there's also the fact that PB is passive and isn't taking away finisher economy whereas CT does

brazen zodiac
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im also outside looking around my lawn

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pog

limber lion
limber lion
brazen zodiac
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sup cev

iron charm
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how big is the difference between asass and sub for 9.2 raiding aprox 🙂

glass tulip
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not enough to force one way or the other, but sub will most likely be a little stronger

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or more well suited

iron charm
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ok so not a huge detriment to play assas in raid. how big is the improvement on our aoe is the tierset for m+ ?

gusty mirage
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a good chunk but sub will still be better

cerulean nest
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the only fight this tier that I felt "forced" to prog as sub was KT, for the big ol AOE moments and the ability to hard stop damage downstairs when needed

glass tulip
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same, but then I parsed a 4 on sub and 75 on assass the next week with 2k extra damage

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so it was not worth swapping

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lol

ashen scroll
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Kt parse is meme

cerulean nest
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yeah "more damage" wasnt the issue is what I mean

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on prog

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just more control over the damage

ashen scroll
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My rl hates winds of winter so much

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Calls for a stop and 2s later the boss is chunked by 3% from all the winters procs

gusty mirage
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all I'm seeing there is your RL hates stop dps mechanics

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😛

cerulean nest
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exactly lol. or "stop damage" and i had just refreshed everything...oops!

ashen scroll
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Or the banshees getting 1 shot randomly from 30%

gusty mirage
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absolutely infuriating that stop dps is a strat to kill a boss

cerulean nest
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to kill more than half of bosses last tier

gusty mirage
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remember when they said they heard our complaints about stopping DPS in nathria?

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then they gave us a raid where half the bosses it was better for prog to completely stop DPS?

cerulean nest
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surely sepulcher wont have it!!

gusty mirage
glass tulip
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I meant 2k boss dps, not just pad 🙂

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we were running into blizzard pretty frequently early on

cerulean nest
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ah I see. we were well ahead on dps by the time we got there

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whole thing was slowing it down

gusty mirage
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fuck KT

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that boss can die

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in a fire

cerulean nest
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correct

gusty mirage
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forever

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such a stupid fucking fight

cerulean nest
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and fate

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that stupid ass little lip on the wall

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couldnt believe that made it past a check

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I am super excited for Xymox round 2

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looks very fun

glass tulip
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fate wasnt that bad

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everyone are just crybabies

gusty mirage
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fate was only bad when your RL refused to let you do anything except runes

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my first kill I ran 3 fucking runes

glass tulip
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okay and

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boss died pepelaugh

cerulean nest
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i did too lol

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the middle one

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id rather do that and know it's a kill vs trust simeone without cloak lmao

glass tulip
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our ret pal was like "nah bro I figured it out dw"

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and then hugged the floor for 3 more pulls

upbeat needle
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so fucking bad

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really hoping for a rework next tier

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or either CT or PB baseline at LEAST

subtle tundra
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pb removed, ct baseline

lone junco
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Is exang a talent still? Or is that why they made the 4p tier.

timid cloud
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Dead talent, hasn’t been used since NYA. Probably won’t be used.

lone junco
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The most interesting interaction (imo) was that the entire bleed fit within a NS+proc+ trinket window. Good times. Why buff part of a 18s bleed. When you can Uber buff a 6 sec one. (If the tier and exang ran together). But it's probably been years since rupture was tuned high enough to matter.

pseudo hamlet
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I seriously have no idea why people keep saying that "assa last talent row is bad".
It's actully kinda cool:
AoE/M+? Go CT
ST/Raid(most of the time)? Go PB!

dusk void
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It's bad, because CT should just be baseline

lone junco
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Meh.

pseudo hamlet
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I like that kind of difference. Better than just having one talent that you use in every content.

lone junco
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Y'all maintain CT in single now?

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Bleh.

gusty mirage
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No

lone junco
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It doesn't provide an energy does it?

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Ok.

gusty mirage
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It does not

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Only garrote, rupture, and if specced into it internal bleeding do

lone junco
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Ok. I figured I wasn't that rusty.

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What's m+ look like. Is it ggg CT tab a few ruptures into what? Prio env? Or are you rehitting with CT.

upbeat needle
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3 will be empowered

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if you triple garrote you only have 3 CP 😦

timid cloud
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RIP Shrouded Suffocation.

jade minnow
past belfry
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Wait I thought playing obedience that you did CT on single target

#

(Not spec into it, but if you’re running it, you keep it up on ST)

alpine latch
#

nope

#

well, yeah

#

If you're on the boss, you keep it up outside of shiv

past belfry
#

Yea

#

Okay

#

That’s what I thought

lone junco
#

Was expecting someone to say "sub"

#

Is shiv rotational now? Did they bake in TB or something

jade minnow
#

U want to use shiv with 2p after garrotes

#

I just dont know if u do 3 emp garrote shiv CT or 3+1 garrotes shiv ct

balmy condor
#

but our tier set in 9.2 is a buff to shiv as well

upbeat needle
#

I feel like 15 too low for max ilvl dungeon loot

#

lowkey

#

should be 20

glass tulip
#

this guy hates casuals who want gear

#

they dont even get up to 15s

real bay
#

20s should give worse gear than hc raid? lol

glass tulip
#

what kind of hillbilly math is that

#

+20 -> 252
hc raid -> 239

239 > 252

pseudo hamlet
glass tulip
#

yeah that's the whole concept of a raid lockout

#

limited chances to obtain the best gear

cold rampart
#

in night fae we go niya?

glass tulip
#

pretty sure it would be dreamweaver for ST or Korayn for more aoe focused

brazen zodiac
#

sup mav

glass tulip
#

yo

cold rampart
#

can someone send night fae build ?

alpine latch
#

Pretty sure you could just pull it from the sims

#

You got like 6 weeks before you need it, though

glass tulip
#

also what does a build mean

#

gear, conduits, talents?

lucid blade
#

Yeah, talents, legendary/gear, soulbinds and conduits etc

balmy condor
#

gotta build a bird house or some shit

glass tulip
#

Night Fae

Talents: 2222221 (DS)

Conduits: Dreamweaver - ST / Korayn - AOE
Septic Shock / Well-Placed Steel / Lethal Poisons

#

this is what I copied out of the wowhead guide

#

anyone can do it :)

balmy condor
bleak sky
#

heard he's a lil bitch

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

??

gusty mirage
glass tulip
#

loremaster title revoked, sadge

spice spire
#

It’s a passive title

#

These days

#

I’m also confused on how you got sauce, @gusty mirage ????

gusty mirage
#

don't ask questions you don't want the answer to

spice spire
#

????

#

I’ve literally been barking up that tree for months

#

His dms are all barks from me, hello?

kind steppe
#

hello, probably asked plenty of time question but :

does assa looks like our best spec for 9.2 raiding ?
if yes, are the sylvanas daggers still our bis ?

spice spire
#

Unsure on the first, hard no on the second

#

The Sylvanas daggers question are in the pins happybear

kind steppe
#

oh yea my bad

#

how are they bad considering they're still above any 285 offhand as sub ?

lean fossil
#

well sub does shadow dmg and sin does not

limber lion
limber lion
limber lion
lean fossil
kind steppe
lean fossil
#

sylvanas is a fun fight, just wish it was shorter...

subtle furnace
#

!guide

limber lion
#

if you're planning on playing assa that is.

kind steppe
#

yes it is but gathering a group of 20 guys to do the whole raid while respecting the myth strats sounds awful

kind steppe
limber lion
#

Optimal spec is the one that you play better

kind steppe
#

I play any spec better

balmy condor
limber lion
#

Unless one spec is severely over- or undertuned

kind steppe
#

I mean yea I'm just that guy who is always looking for the .1% dps increase so spec are still a big diff to me, but ass looks a lot of fun

#

I wonder if it may even have a chance in m+

#

last time we were the best out of the 3 spec was 7.3 I believe (M+ wise)

#

nvm I forgot 8.0

limber lion
#

where 0.1% makes a difference

#

I don't know a single person in the entire world

#

who plays 2 specs perfectly

kind steppe
#

idk I feel like rotation is the easiest thing to get used to when starting a new class

#

then yea its always fight specific but

limber lion
#

Knowing what to do =/= playing perfectly

kind steppe
#

the 1% increase from your priest PI will always be stronger than the whatevercancelauramacroprepull

limber lion
#

I know a bunch of people who play Assa then try out Sub and suddenly they do 500 dps less even though Sub sims higher

#

Funny how that happens

kind steppe
#

idk, havent raided SL 😄

kind steppe
limber lion
#

wut

lean fossil
kind steppe
#

I am

limber lion
#

I don't even understand that sentence tbf

kind steppe
#

meant "you mean there are people who go in raid knowing they do way less damage than they're supposed to ?"

#

but its like 80% of people so

#

not talking about casual obviously

lean fossil
#

youre trying to say you can do your sim dps everytime?

limber lion
#

Yeah no, I'm not really talking about comparing your simdps to the dps that you do

#

But just because you play a "better spec", doesn't mean you'll do better dps if you suck at it. :P

kind steppe
slow marsh
obtuse robin
brazen zodiac
kind steppe
sand sigil
#

i am so confused lmfao

slow marsh
#

yeah idk

kind steppe
#

w/e, thanks for the useful answers

limber lion
#

Np RHlove

balmy condor
echo geyser
#

fy fan

jaunty steeple
#

ny jävla fittan

#

jag tycker om köttbullar

balmy condor
#

Säg?

#

Umlauts in Swedish are

#

Actual cancer

jaunty steeple
#

öåä

copper sundial
#

just to confirm, we should be running a 20/21 key this week or next week for a +15key when the new season begins?

lean fossil
#

this week

glass tulip
#

Or 19/20 next week is fine too

paper nacelle
#

assumed fine bc still no offical word from blizz:(

bleak sky
#

wym no word from blizzard?

echo geyser
#

i think they didnt say how much they lowering by

#

im just gonna do a 20 for safety

quasi ledge
#

Same as like sll the other times though. But time a 20 next reset (patch week) to get a 15 for the raid release week

echo geyser
#

wasnt it -3 before?

#

or was it always -5

copper sundial
#

it was -3 last season

echo geyser
#

anyways im not taking any chances

copper sundial
#

yeah i'll run a 20

echo geyser
#

20 should be safe beare

swift sigil
#

Is assassination the raid spec next tier?

gusty mirage
#

sub and assassination will be the go-to choices, so I guess yes

swift sigil
#

Fantastic, thank you

hollow river
slow marsh
#

This

#

the patch is coming tuesday

hollow river
#

Yeah ik

#

But we have 1 week off season

#

So I didn’t know

copper sundial
#

i thought its tied to the season, thats why i wasn't sure

arctic walrus
#

it is

slow marsh
#

ye but you want to do a 20 so that you get a 15 next week so that your first vault is max ilevel

arctic walrus
#

nope your key drops on 3/1 not 2/22

hollow river
#

^^^

slow marsh
#

but 3/1 is first week of new ilvl vaults

#

right

hollow river
#

It’s going to be capped

#

Not max ilvl iirc

slow marsh
#

weird

spice spire
#

your rewards on 3/8 will be max level, dungeon drops are capped afaik

sand sigil
gusty mirage
#

did I do it right?

bleak sky
#

no

#

assassin and outlaw are dead in every content we only play sub now

limber lion
#

pirate is dead

delicate smelt
#

cant be

lucid birch
#

Not outlaw dead….

#

Snowmatey was just popping off

#

(215)

timid cloud
#

Also I was told to fail a 22 or time a 21 this week to have the keys ready for this next patch.

copper sundial
#

20/21 supposedly

paper nacelle
#

nothing official but based on history ye those will be fine. and 22 should get u a 15 week 1 without having to do keysnext week

spice spire
lucid birch
#

Yeah no clue what you just said

spice spire
#

I'm on my zoomer shit rn, ignore

lucid birch
slow marsh
#

quake on zoomer shit lmao nice one

clever kindle
#

poke isnt a zoomer susChicken

brazen zodiac
#

hi oxi how r u

gusty mirage
#

I'm okay how are you?

brazen zodiac
#

im ok ig kinda bummed out

#

whats poppin in ur world gamer

gusty mirage
brazen zodiac
#

hard working man tho pog!

#

here have a jolly rancher

languid dune
#

Is it worth to craft 262 cloak obedience since it till be on the waist later, or should i craft like duskwalkers/dashing scoundrel in the meantime (started to gear my rogue yesterday again)

slow marsh
#

yes you dont get unity until week 5

languid dune
#

Alright, cool!

mental dune
#

How far behind is sin to sub roughly? I just wont play sub ×)

bleak sky
#

x%

#

is the exact number

balmy condor
#

I feel like the second sentence just instantly reduces the first sentence to irrelevancy

rotund oak
worn badger
#

Im an old Rogue, Sub is only for pvp and combat daggers are still the king of us all

torn atlas
#

I'm just old so everything else is too fast paced for my dinosaur brain

last iris
#

so which covenant are we going in 9.2?

bleak sky
last iris
nimble tartan
#

@frail fossil this new black country new road is making me

#

why did he leave the band ill never recover

balmy condor
#

You can’t just say that man wth

frail fossil
nimble tartan
#

i actually

frail fossil
#

I'll never see him live with the band

nimble tartan
#

do not believe what i just listened to

#

first listen

#

just so moving

frail fossil
#

Why are we in the assassin channel tho

oak sky
#

my channel

nimble tartan
#

bro wtf i thougth this was offtopic the whole time my bad LMAO

balmy condor
oak sky
#

sorry

balmy condor
#

Our channel comrade

oak sky
#

out of the off topic shitposters

#

my channel

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

You giffed that hella fast

oak sky
#

right click copy link paste

balmy condor
#

Oh

#

Right

#

That’s a thing you can do on desktop

oak sky
bleak sky
#

imagine mixing channels up

#

couldn't be me

spice spire
#

You merely adopted the feints, I was born from them, molded by them.

slow forge
#

Is there anywhere to see the play style and rotation for st in 9.2 pepelove

bleak sky
#

sims in pins

#

open up the report and watch a sample rotation

slow forge
#

Oh shit I ain’t gonna lie I’ve never done this so uh imma be so lost

bleak sky
#

wrong channel

bleak sky
#

instead of clicking buttons

hexed frost
slow forge
limber lion
#

I wonder what they're gonna talk about on the podcast on Monday.

#

Interesting to see what JPC and Ram have to say about Assa Sinscheme

glass tulip
#

Well Ceverion, if you read the announcement then you would know that the main topics are:

mythic+ and patch preparation, mindsets during keys, and what to watch out for in your daily push to greatness

#

Although I too, am excited to see what Liquid raider James has to say about Assa

limber lion
#

I didn't even notice the announcement, that's crazy!

#

jk

#

just a daily reminder to tune in on Monday

glass tulip
#

Yes, the Shadowblades do a great job of keeping the Ravenholdt community updated on new events, details related to their class, and more!

limber lion
#

Hope to see you all there Icegun

balmy condor
#

No one complimented my witty word play I was sad

#

:(

#

I thought it was pretty sick

glass tulip
#

You'd be remiss to miss this bis list of panelists and analysis!

#

very nice alliteration, take some head pats

scenic sandal
#

quick question what leggo is better for begging 9.2 as venth doom or obedience ?(meaning no tier set at all)

tight ginkgo
#

Venth one leggo is Obed (in the pins!)

limber lion
#

Obedience giga

rotund oak
#

crafted dusk on a ring,crit/haste and im drooling in the idea of pressing sepsis

simple rivet
#

with frost shards going away is crit no longer going to be sin's best stat

rotund oak
#

crit is generally always a good stat

upbeat needle
glass tulip
#

crit haste will still be top 2 but you dont want to stack it like you needed to with frost

upbeat needle
#

^

rotund oak
#

we go with haste ''heavy'' crit/haste gear

#

#ProblemSolved

upbeat needle
#

Just go full mastery sin fuck it

rotund oak
#

reminds me of f@ck vegan go cannibal meme

#

😅

upbeat needle
#

Hey we can do that too

rotund oak
pale knot
#

anyone really good with weak auras here ?

glass tulip
#

there are suggested WA packs in the wowhead guide

#

a lot of streamer UIs also come with good ones

pale knot
#

like what i'm looking for is a weakaura / addon that will make my trinket on my action bars glow when they are ready

#

and i've heard that you can attach a weakaura to the action bars

winter vapor
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
tawny barn
glass tulip
#

I dont think you can attach a weakaura to your actual bars

rotund oak
#

there are custom bars as part of a weakaura/WA based UI

glass tulip
#

here is a basic version @pale knot
!WA:2!DrvZUToru4BuaHWi(PbOQ6clI6IiUSi0BRUfXY6qs5EvOjm2fkWI4X2hBpkJNX3zgN00LE1DDEeYAwLhH(eyfH4baXtq3XoMzssrGxyF(DoNZ35BCJbTYBf3k(nhVIeXzE8sre85prC7OKejOg(EIfBLASgZIY4IXCctf2R)v(9rBI4CAmFoZBoPacUFVA)4uitGJueotEosQWcLtycHrKzoU6pkNkLGKMcc5h0rSt8nFmsPtAA1(JPIOG8RW5qJIdkLWKuGbcsKxgF(iwWM)J6AP9dcWXlqmDoshB6EuU6ZwfdHLjj(lkaX31F44bxp0vPvCnr8NYYqygWuE6qi3UEsVl88N45FbYhzTxCCVDnu7XcEQaKY2Fr)xxskY1EBBQWZCl1dvybfVaeBeaM6vauQP3rUuclEJP)L7TfuzfFzS05EJJ9ZzWJ9YybO7fK34(dhU8X8(RQLMWTOuWJzAAGGLLSDWOtXbgKFg4Vv)75XWV9Kh0BnqWW0FuJ561YV(WuakUqF0rkewVOYwIzKCJe7863DW9awcEkbWsvzVt9rUmod2exkSrmXGEcjOzmXYktOgST(e3CmHnO(R0juFs9ZRpT(m9xN)Vf9(qIvMZcYwPhzeKAykp9p2Ks5ZhiGxxcSOfJFRt6E6lQpsOdX4yT51n7OJvgftv3ewQuC2OzGqd)RmMhA76p1g)pVl(LgLECkx8QM6hd6D5ElzUgNb2Q7NrIMY074M2m8IWuyR4qI28b2c4YfXGilmdiPzkSlLJJtS7Mikwkdcv6SyQdr5LufXPA32pkaz93jusyPuaHgD519RFPJRXzN6HnTYK7Gd1cRewyX3su1iD9peu8j7VB4d3Q(wIehsH4S1ewcxSD554EhNN3yPeOj27Q1V9kfpA221(rnM83htIloSTMDWMcQ2gqOnN1E7nNOhbO1jcnJtZaWkCt0CsSkd)W2FbmW4X0wHE9q97FvOU5siPo6t0ugi40ss86lGF5YN9n53n6NKimTid3CLHUqS)u4PDqrzq00ZrZW0sOr1mSGygM1wY(12bR(9BkIYWSuq(LDQJF14MN09f2xnBwvi4AkOAr9nhwNv8rAks3N39F3n1FyWgCPs3TJkSv0PLeDw3VU7zTM9738pd

#

icon just pops up and glows when trinket 1 is off cd

rotund oak
pale knot
#

nice cheers @rotund oak and @glass tulip

sinful island
#

is agility potion or phantom fire going to stand out in next tier? which should I supply myself with?

spice spire
glass tulip
#

quake is green What

spice spire
#

Only green with envy PepeHands

glass tulip
#

theyre really giving CF out to anyone around here

#

especially @gusty mirage

pure moth
#

Grats on green

spice spire
#

Thank you I appreciate it whispyrheart

pure moth
#

Youre welcome

bleak sky
#

MakeitGreen pog

upbeat needle
#

big fan of MakeItGreen

spice spire
#

But I’m color blind I can’t see green (that’s not how color blindness works) PepeHands

#

All I’d see is Makeit

bleak sky
#

Yeah because you made it

spice spire
#

Holy fuck that was smooth

echo geyser
#

what the heck

#

@spice spire gz on green

glass tulip
#

all he had to do was suck some toes

spice spire
#

Ty mister ramfam.
I may be green, but I’ll never be the goat

spice spire
#

That’s you, except you’re kind of a ram

#

But you get the vibe

languid dune
#

HAHA

spice spire
#

Uh

echo geyser
#

2 people got promoted starege

glass tulip
#

who else

spice spire
#

Another GOAT

echo geyser
#

push

spice spire
#

Mister pushnoir

glass tulip
#

idk who that is but proud of the homie

echo geyser
#

what the heck

glass tulip
#

im new around here pepehands

spice spire
#

One CF was deserving, and the other is an OTP.
I’ll let you all decide who is whom monkascheme

echo geyser
#

u rly do be sin 1 trick @glass tulip

spice spire
#

(Push is long overdue)

echo geyser
bleak sky
spice spire
#

Push is like THE sub guy

scenic kelp
#

what for a key lvl i have to play for a instant 15 next week?

glass tulip
#

its true, trying to branch out to sub but sin is too nice

spice spire
#

It’s the week after you have to know

glass tulip
languid dune
#

^

scenic kelp
#

ah so the dungeons will be stronger with raid release?

languid dune
#

yep

glass tulip
#

correct, along with S3 affix

scenic kelp
#

gracias

languid dune
#

a 15 is the new 12 ish

spice spire
#

Next week is season 3 “preseason” in keys

limber lion
#

Now Quake can make his log review threads himself

bleak sky
#

Now people are gonna listen to him when he's huffing that necrolord copium though

lavish lichen
#

I feel like season 2 post season is more accurate description since affixes and tuning are still from season 2

glass tulip
#

wdym mr minalba we get to play necro for like 2 weeks this patch :)

spice spire
languid dune
#

Necro assa LULW

spice spire
#

CBA with pings just promote Sinscheme

#

Bro I’m so excited

bleak sky
#

Throwing boners for a week

echo geyser
lavish lichen
#

Ohh fuck

#

Congrats Quake!!!

echo geyser
spice spire
#

I legit won’t be a meme for two weeks

#

Thanks Daniel! whispyrheart

lavish lichen
#

Ty for always answering mi dumb questions KEKW

languid dune
echo geyser
bleak sky
#

It's by far the most engaging one tho

#

When you have multiple targets

viscid spear
languid dune
#

for you sure, for me no xd

echo geyser
spice spire
echo geyser
glass tulip
#

isnt it just a set it and forget it

bleak sky
glass tulip
#

throw 1 spike into each and then just random boners

spice spire
#

Unless you ask the same question above 5 lines or less

viscid spear
spice spire
bleak sky
echo geyser
bleak sky
echo geyser
#

level it if u think u are

spice spire
glass tulip
#

CF doesnt mean good player

spice spire
#

/s btw

glass tulip
#

look at Cev

spice spire
bleak sky
#

Cev clearly washed yeah

glass tulip
viscid spear
bleak sky
#

Not even 100 avg

spice spire
#

Only 98s highly unfortunate

bleak sky
#

Sub's gonna be great ash, level kyrian

spice spire
#

Ash don’t listen to them

viscid spear
echo geyser
#

the cov diff seems so big on sub

spice spire
#

Stick to your OTP ways Sinscheme

spice spire
bleak sky
#

And kyrian is so good

#

Kyrian sub feels so smooth to play

glass tulip
#

kyrian is just big throughput right?

spice spire
#

Kyrian sub looks infinitely better than Venthyr gameplay wise - to me

bleak sky
#

Yeah big single target throughput

spice spire
#

It’s literally send on CD

bleak sky
#

Not bursty, just good damage always

glass tulip
spice spire
#

Not all send on CD rooSuffer1

glass tulip
#

I always feel like I get stuff offset by a few too many seconds

#

probably just dumb dance usages

viscid spear
#

Delayed reaction send on CD

#

Plus I really don't like Kyrian

spice spire
#

Kyrian really is fine when you’re not sin

viscid spear
#

I don't mean as a Rogue, I just don't like it period

#

Archon keeps getting BTFO

spice spire
#

Oh true

gusty mirage
viscid spear
#

Primus was only beaten by Zovaal cheap-shotting him
Denathrius took a whole raid team
Zovaal and Anduin decided to just distract Winter Queen instead of facing her

drifting cloud
glass tulip
glass tulip
spice spire
#

He’s my man smadge

strange python
#

when im looking at wow analyzer what exactly does energy regen efficiency mean?

languid dune
#

Stable covenant for m+/raids, 15-20 keys and max hc raids. Everyone keeps telling me diffrent shit. 😄

spice spire
glass tulip
#

assass rogue is about 2 expansions outdated on wowanalyzer

spice spire
#

Once the double legendary happens Necrolord falls hard in raid

glass tulip
#

so in other words, really whatever you want

spice spire
#

Since their legendary is like +2dps total ST

#

But is still very good in m+

languid dune
gusty mirage
#

Yeah their changelog when it was “updated” for shadowlands was comical

#

They changed around talent names and called it updated

#

Beautiful

bleak sky
#

Yesterday I played necro sin in a key and BOI

#

It's been a while

glass tulip
#

update: added a notification that apl is out of date

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

But the reason you’re getting a lot of different answers was through intent or not, covenant balance is pretty nice for us

#

Except Kyrian

bleak sky
#

Yeah kyrian can unalive itself

#

In game

spice spire
#

For assassination

odd flax
#

how could I sim the phial nerf for my 9.2 gear?

echo geyser
#

u just wait for it to get implemented into raidbots

tawdry temple
#

hello guys

#

what will be the go to spec for rogue in 9.2

glass tulip
#

whichever one you like the most

brazen zodiac
#

outlaw totally outlaw

wanton terrace
#

!guide

lyric crater
#

haha what we like if only that was the case raid leader want u to take the one that does the most damage

pure moth
#

What sims higher statistically, may not be what you can do best in. All 3 specs are fine and playable though. So you can play what you like and do the best in.

spice spire
#

Outlaw may not be monkaGIGA

lyric crater
#

hate sub outlaw ok

pure moth
#

Outlaw should just not exist.. lol. I'll never play it.

glass tulip
#

if your raid leader is asking you to play a specific rogue spec you should tell him to pull his head out of his ass

zinc frost
#

@spice spire gz on the green promo legend RHlove

spice spire
#

Outlaw is chill tbh

#

Thank you ruptured whispyrheart

echo geyser
glass tulip
lyric crater
#

i may try outlaw again but they need to lower ss enegry 45 is to high for 1 cp that just me yes i know can roll good buff the rng sucks

drifting cloud
frosty bridge
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@spice spire grats mate, green suits you well

spice spire
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Ty mister losmi.
I just hope I wear it well while I’m here whispyrheart

slow marsh
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Dang everybody goin green

lyric crater
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are we useing spetic shock at all in 9.2

timid cloud
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I’m too toxic & too troll for the green name.

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Every time I say Master Poisoner is going to be a thing or Mastery might be good, they delay me getting it for another month.

slow marsh
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Lol

timid cloud
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I’ll just keep trying to Crystal ball it.

drifting cloud
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cant delay something youll never get

timid cloud
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aPES_Wizard 🔮

slow marsh
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I'm trying to spend less time in here so idk if I wanna go for it

glass tulip