assassination

[marsh fjord]

Mostly for boss damage and the big add damage is where Assa shines yes

[waxen oyster]

atp you can really play either

[marsh fjord]

Yeah both are fine really

It’s personal preference

[waxen oyster]

most guilds will prob eval you more on defensive usage

and if you can do damage in general

than what spec

[pastel roost]

So if they ask me as sub, it's most likely to help on add damages ? that or ignorance about what assa does now

[marsh fjord]

You shoulda seen my health pot usage compared to my guild mates. Me 26 pot used. The person below me 10 pots used

[waxen oyster]

ngl i underuse hp pots on rogue

because vial

they literally kind of do the same thing

assa is worse at living mass damage though in p1

[marsh fjord]

If they want you as sub you should ask where they struggle. If they need more add damage you coulda go with sub

But if they need more boss damage then it’s Assa

[normal mist]

@balmy condor tips and tricks for D4 starting for the first time please

[coral ibex]

they probably dont actually know anything about rogue

and are just looking at RWF comps

"sub is good"

[balmy condor]

Tip #1: don’t
Tip #2: play a better arpg

[coral ibex]

if you are joining a guild that struggles with add damage in december 2025 on dimensius, you might consider a different guild

[waxen oyster]

thats 90% the case for most guilds i've seen

no one knows what rogue does

unless an officer mains one

[normal mist]

the sale was really good, can't skip tip1

[balmy condor]

Poe is free

[normal mist]

too much to learn

i enjoyed d3 a lot

[runic hinge]

The campaign was really good imo and blizz cinematics are

I did not play it anymore after that

[haughty flicker]

yeah i liked the campaign

then didnt play it ever again

but im also just not a big arpg person in general

[runic hinge]

I played them a lot in my teens but I don’t have the grind like that in me anymore

[normal mist]

So far cinematics and campaign have been a blast, I'm playing rogue barrage currently.
Was wondering how much fun the new class is

[steady swan]

what happen here ?, i miss some info XD

[spice surge]

#midnight-assassination, but it got changed

[weary stump]

Why do we call it crimson tempest and not pointier fan of knives

[tight ginkgo]

[Stan of Knives]

[sharp viper]

Fan of spikes

[weary stump]

Also why can't we call poison bomb goop deployment

[keen spruce]

clam of pies

[royal lantern]

im not sure that the kitten likes that

[shy creek]

I havent played assa all season but decided maybe just play assa on reclear now that kill times are faster

Is it possible to 100% of the time induce the cdr bug

or am i just coinflipping (haha get it cuz fatebound haha) into it

[balmy condor]

there is no way to consistently get the bug

[severe meadow]

It’s 50/50, it either happens or it doesn’t

[unborn wharf]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[timber pawn]

Question, I am switchign from Lily to Netherprisim for M Dimi prog, when using the trinket do I use it with each KB or only with DM/KB together

[runic hinge]

You would macro prism to vanish

[timber pawn]

would not have guessed that, just for the higher stack count?

[haughty flicker]

you have a slightly stronger dm+vanish

so use stakcs with it

compared to just every dm

[runic hinge]

Correct. If you macro it to dm it doesn’t get to 18

[balmy condor]

vanish 3min cd

prism 3min trinket

gg

[runic hinge]

Gg

[knotty vapor]

chat we're 110 pulls into king now

and only about 5 people ever consistently make it to the beams shuffle

is it over?

talking p1 prog

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-over-it's-gif-3551756699416095564

[knotty vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

[balmy condor]

only 110?

you're like

maybe halfway there

[knotty vapor]

there's hope?

[balmy condor]

I mean saladbar is like 90% wipes in p1 cause idiots

and then 10% wipes in p3 cause idiots can't shoot their star

and then it dies

[knotty vapor]

well shit

my hopium has been refilled

it's not over yet

i thought it was only gonna get harder lol

[balmy condor]

nah

the first 2 min are the hardest

if you can get all 20 people onto the add platforms

then it's probably a kill

(if they don't fuck up the stars, which is the other bottleneck)

[knotty vapor]

aiite we got this

i believe

[balmy condor]

and then you get to dimmy and it's p1 forever, platform 2 forever, and then you kill

[knotty vapor]

more pain in my future

good things to come

omg we got to platforms with like 7 people

[haughty flicker]

we cant even get to platform 2

[knotty vapor]

I HAVE TOUCHED THE PLATFORM AND DEALT DAMAGE TO THE TITAN

TONIGHT IS A SUCCESS

[tawdry halo]

We’ve made it to first platform
I think 4 times in 134 pulls

Which sounds bad, until you factor in that we’ve had probably 30 people total progging p1

Hard to get consistency with so many outs and absences 😭

[old obsidian]

Hey guys, I have a question. I know it's late in the season, but my guild and I are trying for Mythic Dimensius and we're almost at the final phase. We were lacking some damage, so I'm using up all my cooldowns (trinkets) on the platform add before Dimensius. Is this okay? I'm not reaching the final phase (20-25 seconds) with any cooldowns remaining. Any recommendations? Advice? I'd be very grateful :c

its normal ?

[hollow sphinx]

I usally only use KB and shiv only p2-2 so i have everything for start of the p3

[hallow glade]

when are you using cooldowns on the platform before p3? do you kill pargoth before the winds?

if you arent able to use cds immediately upon landing 2nd platform, you may be able to hold them on the first platform since youre killing that fast. if you dont see the winds on platform 2, then you may not need to use them there

can you share a log or elaborate on where in the fight you are lacking damage?

[old obsidian]

We killed it with the wind

[old obsidian]

In my "best attempt", I arrived 10 seconds before the CDs, on the second platform,

[old obsidian]

I think they have it private, but here it is

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/w8gchTY4HPQnKb7M

We're 4 players focusing on the big add on the last platform. We're using this tactic because we're lacking damage, but I feel like something's wrong. I feel like we're lacking damage, right?

[unreal imp]

Quick glance but at least one thing is your hunters are letting you down. 2x BM shouldn’t be the two worst DPS in that group.

[old obsidian]

The idea is that they're going to burn through everything with the amplified damage from 18 charges of the trinket on p3

[nova gust]

the idea is kinda flawed if you can't get to p3 at all

[wet turtle]

Netherprism absolute bis for assa in m+?

[static glacier]

I would say so, araz is competitive too tbh.

[wet turtle]

Thanks Mo

I guess the useage is build stacks and use it on bosses with deathmark?

[static glacier]

use the stacks where you most need the damage, you can just macro to dm tbh

some people will hold for 18 stacks on lust or a difficult pull but I doubt you're in that situation where it will make or break the key unless pushing insanely high

[wet turtle]

Thanks my bro

[jolly stirrup]

100% accurate xD I am sure we kill tomorrow

[heady ridge]

in p1 dim can you shadowstep dim or what do i do on smashes other than just let myself fly

[analog field]

shadow step dimmy or shadow step another player

[fallow canopy]

pick the smartest player on your side and step to them, if you feel confident about stepping p3 rings you can also do that with the same person

[balmy condor]

if your tank sucks, you step a player

if your tank isn't stupid, you can step the boss

p2 and p3 don't require a step at all and stuff can be lived entirely with sprint + feint

[heady ridge]

how do i gauge whether my tanks are stupid or not (they are)

[royal lantern]

when you step and you stand inside a void zone that nukes you for 40% hp on each tick

or when you step and get knocked back because the tanks are once again fighting eachother for aggro because 1 of them is doing 60% less dmg then the other

[heady ridge]

so like landing on the zones they drop on ss? i see

[fallow canopy]

honestly stepping to someone is kinda foolproof and you have to move even less depending on where you are assigned to drop your goop

[royal lantern]

i just made a macro on our DK and called it a day

🤷‍♂️

[fallow canopy]

same but to a warr

[balmy condor]

to be fair, I step into the zones they drop and it's kinda fine

the big problem is lets say you're left side

if the tank that is actively getting domed by the boss

is the tank on your side

[royal lantern]

do you have healers that actually play the game, instead of ending a fight with 0 usages of mana tea while crying for inervate?

[balmy condor]

and also standing all up at the front of the platform

where you would be walking through after your step

that's a problem

cause the reason you get bounced around

is cause you're near a tank getting melee'd

so as long as there is distance, or the tank taking the hits is the tank of the opposite side

it's not really an issue

and with current ilvl gear, the puddles are kinda whatever

you can feint the knockback, step into a puddle, calmly walk out of it, and still be half health with no damage incoming for another 5-6 seconds

[heady ridge]

I believe the tank on my side is the off tank so i should be able to ss to him

[balmy condor]

well, you would step to the boss, not the tank

but yeh that works too I guess

as long as you're not on top of a tank getting melee'd immediately after you step, you can basically step whatever the hell you'd like

most people that don't step the boss opt to step a death knight since they're immuning the knock

that's usually "safe", given you can trust said death knight to actually immune the knock

[severe meadow]

Our DK gets knocked off sometimes

[balmy condor]

we've had situations where the dk tries to stack puddles with amz

doesn't press it

and then just walks into the puddle and dies

[royal lantern]

what kind of dk dies from that

its dk, dont they have like 80% passive dr

[balmy condor]

[analog field]

on our like 40 pulls we have done i didn't even shadowstepped, and shadowstepped the add afterwards and I didnt have any accident

[humble verge]

thats always fine

[lusty nacelle]

quick question for M+ AOE, on massive pulls (like the first pull in Priory with 11 targets) should I spend the whole indiscriminate carnage timer casting garrote and rupture, or should I stop at a certain number of affected targets?

[analog field]

2-3 rupts and all garrotes is fine

[lusty nacelle]

what about when vanish is on CD and there are still 5+ targets alive? how many targets should I be trying to keep bleeds on? 5 for scent of blood? more? less?

[analog field]

if you dont use vanish you want rup on 5 and garrote only on main

if you elect to vanish you do it to spread again

[hallow glade]

looking at your 63% pull in p3, you push platform 1 very fast, so you may not need to send there (if you want to send immediately on platform 2 to have it sooner for burn). or, if you ask your guild to push a little more slowly on platform 1, you, the dk, the windwalker, and any other 1:30 specs would get to have much better timings overall.
the bigger issue is that you have no mage and that you are more than doubling a windwalkers damage on platforms

[humble verge]

wtf

i just didnt proc tierset

on a pull

[hallow glade]

happens

ive had it once

[humble verge]

nah

this has never happened to me before

[hallow glade]

yeah it is extremely rare

[scarlet orbit]

had it a hadfull times

[hallow glade]

blizzard is too busy to fix their game so gg

broken tier the entire patch

[scarlet orbit]

Im pretty sure if this bug was happening so frequently then the more cdr one it would got fixed but maybe i give them to much credit

[hallow glade]

they deserve no credit for what assa was put through this tier

[humble verge]

from last weeks 1shot into this week;

[plain solstice]

anyone having issues stealthing in brawler's guild, like once i hit the ogrewatch fight, stealth just yanks me out of arena

[humble verge]

great boss

[royal lantern]

push faster

[severe meadow]

I’ve had it happen maybe twice this entire tier

[humble verge]

well we didnt now but improved our r1 speed by 7 seconds

😎

[lament bolt]

I think I had to leave stealth specifically on that fight for them to spawn, but no issues the rest of the fights to rank 8

[weary stump]

This happened to me a lot back when progging loomithar and I was very mad at life

[humble verge]

progging loomithar

im kidding

feelsbad to not proc tierset

i feel it should be a 100%

[fallow canopy]

what the helly

also who the fuck is flaming my goat

[humble verge]

wdym who was flamed

[soft drift]

do we have a softcap on Crit

im seeing if it make sense to change enchantment/gems etc

I was told we want like ~10% haste ish, no need for more

[fallow canopy]

idk someone on chat whispering fuck you

[soft drift]

but not sure if we have similar cutoff points

[waxen oyster]

where is this 10% from

some mf feelycrafting out here

[soft drift]

deadass just overhead from another rogue lmao

couldnt find it anywhere

[waxen oyster]

Yeah its called run simc

for upgrades

nothing else matters

[humble verge]

finally we orange logged dim

🥲

[whole snow]

Crit hits diminishing returns at 21000 rating but that doesn’t mean getting more is bad

[plain solstice]

I got through it, just had to work on it a few times without stealth

[normal mist]

you stop getting crit when sims tell you to stack another stat

[waxen oyster]

fb really likes crit tbf

not as much as havoc dh

but still

[amber kelp]

hi stabby friends 😬 curious about shiv in context of kb…i’ve been shivving before the kb window and then again with 8s left. but when i look at logs, it seems a lot of rogues only do the second one. can someone help me understand?

[scarlet orbit]

If you play fatebound you shiv before dm and then again after the first one runs out. That leaves you with 1 shiv for the next kb. That one you use to cover the last 8 second from kb. Then it starts again

[amber kelp]

ahhhh

so overlap the dm shivs?

no wait

you said after the first one runs out

[scarlet orbit]

Yes you cast it after the first one ends.

[amber kelp]

why do we save for the last 8s instead of the beginning of the window?

just curious the why

[scarlet orbit]

Kingsbane ramps in dmg. So the last seconds do more dmg then the first ones.

[amber kelp]

okay thank you for the context!

is it any different for ds?

[scarlet orbit]

It is different but we dont play kb with ds in any contend atm.

In M+ you use bleed where you shiv 2x with dm 2x with "nothing" and repeat

[weary stump]

it took my group an unreasonably long time to do it, we are now hardstuck at soul hunters and will probably be until midnight if im being real with myself

not raiding with current group next expansion though so

cant take it anymore

[amber kelp]

2x shiv with “nothing” = all your bleeds out first? 😬

[humble verge]

finally allowed to pad on SB

because everyone went ST for speedparse

[scarlet orbit]

Yes, sorry to confuse you. You play normal but there is no kb to stack with shiv thats what i meant

[humble verge]

r34 on sb and r34 on dim

[amber kelp]

thank you so much! idk why but i must be messing up my dm window cause i have been have 2x shivs up by the time kb comes off cooldown after dm

[real pike]

Big jelly I can't beat the blue barrier

Are you holding damage at all?

[humble verge]

i for tierbug p1, hold kb so i DMkb on 2nd knock, i then just roll my cds on p2.1, kb once on p2.2 and blast on amp

[scarlet orbit]

Just to be sure. You do play fatebound and you also have the tset?

[real comet]

do you wind up getting three DMs on P1 if you get the bug?

[humble verge]

no, you do 2

[amber kelp]

yes and yes

[humble verge]

you'd have to triple bug(i have had it happen 3 times in all my pulls), and then triple bug the 2nd dm too

i assume

[scarlet orbit]

Then you should have only 1 shiv for the raw kingsbane when you use 2 shivs with dm

[real comet]

what time are you ending P1? i feel like i usually get 2 DMs and have DM like 10ish out landing at P2.1

[humble verge]

if we dont finish p1 sub 2min we are bad at the game

or around 2minutes

the log if you wanna look ig

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fD1Va8c3tKqYJk9T?fight=45

[amber kelp]

yeah i’m doing something wrong then cause i have 2 😅

[scarlet orbit]

Do you maybe have a log by any chance?

[real comet]

yeah we’re trying to hold for 2:30 and doing the last set of adds, but we were finishing like 2:05

it gives me 2 DMs in P1, and a DM on 2.1, but 2.2 is like a giga desynced disaster where im holding like half the time

[naive crescent]

oh fuck this is assa how did i end up here

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6GioqMbMAMrWIJ.gif

[waxen oyster]

you are not getting cds on platform 2.2

[humble verge]

no

[waxen oyster]

without cdr bugs+buyers

[humble verge]

as i said

[waxen oyster]

maybe

[humble verge]

you only kb once

dont use anything else

if u wanna parse

[waxen oyster]

yeah you basically need to be in a guild that holds hard

+buyer

for like 9min kill almost

[humble verge]

^

you want week2 kill timers basically

[real comet]

gotcha, so 2DMs P1, DM 2.1, KB 2.2, then just slam P3

are you prisming every DM?

[humble verge]

i do not give a single fuck for holding prism

[real comet]

i tried it last night

holding all P2

[humble verge]

ive macroed it my trinkets into DM since nerub

[real comet]

then 18 stacking the amp P3

yeah not macroing it felt like shit

[waxen oyster]

I think some guilds cant even 2nd cd p1

idk turbo boost is fucking stupid

[real comet]

if i beg my holy paly for autumn would i be able to make a DM on 2.2 do you think?

[waxen oyster]

no unless your guild holds and doesnt kill pargoth

until 2nd winds

[real comet]

💀

[humble verge]

i mean true

[real comet]

i think thats when we kill him without holding

[waxen oyster]

da fuq

i cant even second cd p1

because 2 eles rawdogging blue boy

[real comet]

you end P1 before 1:30?

errr

like 1:45

[waxen oyster]

usually land on arto with 10-12s left

when mobs spawn

[errant heath]

Doesn’t Fatebound DM have a 1min 30sec CD with 4 piece? My tooltip still shows 2mins

[waxen oyster]

Yeah it only happens after you get the coin

so if you brick your opener you wont get it

[real comet]

10-12 until your 2nd DM?

[waxen oyster]

would be 3rd if no hold

[real comet]

oh ok yeah thats basically my timing exactly then

[waxen oyster]

we still got like 1min on gateway cd

if you gotta wait like 13s to send dm mob is practically dead though

[real pike]

Does holding for a 1min KB get you any extra DMs in p1 though

I feel like you get 2 either way

[humble verge]

no im holding the 30second kb if you tierbug

[humble verge]

oh yeah

youre not getting more than 2

but the thing is

you WANT to tierbug

to have DMkb up for the start of p2.1

thats the only reason you wanna do it

its the only way to parse on the fight

[real pike]

Oh we hold damage end of p1

[humble verge]

yeah ure not gonna parse

[real pike]

Until the knock cast starts

But like I can KB at 1%

And it will be up for 2.1 when I land

[humble verge]

i mean just hold it

theres no amtter to using it

[real pike]

If I tierbug I get to send it before our RL calls to stop damage 😈

[humble verge]

wati

wait

you guys are still holding

for reclear?

[real pike]

Bruh

[humble verge]

or are you still progging

[real pike]

Fkin reclear

[humble verge]

man

[real pike]

Trust

[humble verge]

tell your RL to take a hike

just push it

[real pike]

Holding on platforms too

I'm not sure why

Lines have to come out after push on 2.1

And we have to get pushed off in 2.2

Tbf the reclear kills have not been clean

[humble verge]

so you guys are basically doing week 2 strats

cause you have no damage at all

[real pike]

We end burn at around 55%

[humble verge]

i mean idk what our amp burn is

can check my vod

we are 63%

[real pike]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L71vDz8AyM2Rgr34?fight=18&type=damage-done

That's our kill earlier tonight

But idk how helpful that is with us holding

[humble verge]

the difference tho is like

we have the 24th fastest kill on the boss

so we are just pushing it

i mean we are actively trying to just push speed kills lul

[real pike]

I would love to just not give a fuck and let shit push whenever

Like I have a brain I can work out my cds around whatever timings we end up with

I almost parsed purp on salad bar but we wiped on 1.5% lul

[humble verge]

in terms of holding damage, for amp+BL, sure you have some outlier, but you guys are still doing worse damage than us in terms of us pushing it even

ops i forgot to add the top part for my guild

tho it doesnt really matter ig

you guys have some outliers with your boomies

but everyone else are just straight underperforming icl

even for holding cds

just ignore our fire mage

but yeah, if youre ever gonna be able to parse

your guild just has to push, do not care about timers

and basically some people have to hold p2.2

[grand trail]

the raids are kinda akward now arent they?

i feel like every boss we kill is like couple seconds before my cds

[humble verge]

thats what turboboost is doing to ya

[real pike]

yeah I truly hate turboboost

[real pike]

bruh how are you gaping me so hard

[humble verge]

on amp?

[real pike]

ye that side by side you posted

[humble verge]

how do you go into amp

[real pike]

everything up, full prism, and take CPs I've built from the second platform add before it dies

pot on DM

[humble verge]

oh no thats obvious

[real pike]

wdym then

[humble verge]

ok look at your casts

and at mine

actually you might be doing the same as me maybe

who knows

imma check

[real pike]

I am bad at logs beyond basic stuff but I will try and look

afaik I'm doing everything how I'm supposed to

[humble verge]

theres the issue

[real pike]

but but whispyr told me to do that 🙁

[humble verge]

just basically dont care about envenom buff

[real pike]

you go accelerated

[humble verge]

since youre losing out on potential dps

i can tell you

if i do the same as you

im not gonna log 97

im prolly logging like a 94/95

[real pike]

ok I checked and I was actually asking about a different boss

[humble verge]

whar

but also look

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L71vDz8AyM2Rgr34?fight=18&type=damage-done&source=3&start=5774794&end=5814292 you

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fD1Va8c3tKqYJk9T?fight=45&source=4&type=damage-done&start=10773432&end=10814566 me

im adding amp+bl timer

[real pike]

I asked about doing the shortcut sequence without envenom on a different boss not dimmy

and got told to do it normal with the envenoms

but the dimmy amp is shorter and more immediate

[humble verge]

yeah but youre still doing it tho

just skip the first envenom

its useless

[real pike]

awh you killed 1 min before me that's cute

[humble verge]

i mean

its a speedparse

is what we were going for

34 seconds behind r1 parse

at 7:01

which is kind of insane

[real pike]

no I mean

21:15 and 21:14

[humble verge]

ohlol

[real pike]

hue

[humble verge]

i mean we had like

15 wipes on NK

because we wanted to IMPROVE our already r1 speed parse

by 7 seconds

[real pike]

ye we had 6 lul

[humble verge]

well tbf

[real pike]

I'm not entirely sure what I 'm looking at

I can see your KB absolutely fucks mine

[humble verge]

ure looking at dps thru amp+bl

[real pike]

I assume cause of ignoring the first envenom

[real pike]

what is my takeaway

[humble verge]

i mean the damage is miniscule

its more just about proccing in general

but the reason why im parsing higher is just because of that tierbug in p1

u guys are holding p1, we push

amp is just like

a gamble if you get good rolls or not

[real pike]

yeah I hear that

but I should be dropping shiv > DM > KB immediately after the rup > gar

and not building for envenom

especially when it takes 2 mutis to get the 5+ CP during the amp

that shit hurts

[humble verge]

depends

if youre lucky you get 1mut into envenom

because if youre already like

5-6 cp after p2.2

and you rupture

you get 2cp refund

[real pike]

your coin is all over mine

[humble verge]

as i said

thats basically based off luck

idk but i feel i never get damage increase

[real pike]

I'm just trying to work out what I can do to be better

[humble verge]

IM ONLY GETTING COIN TOSS

[humble verge]

to be fair theres nothing really you can do

[real pike]

yeah but that's 2 seconds of a 10 second amp you miss of DM + KB right

[humble verge]

its just the whole guild needs to be faster

[real pike]

and you miss the more ramped up bit too

[humble verge]

true

but the funny thing is i can tell you

[real pike]

I definitely think doing your sequence is an improvement on mine

[humble verge]

i didnt do this on my own

actually got told "just do rup+gar into cds, more worth"

by both my guild and another rogue i know

[real pike]

I mean it makes sense

only because the amp is so short

[humble verge]

damage wise amp is just based off luck anyways

[real pike]

ye ofc variance is big

[humble verge]

you do get more value out of it if you dm with rup+gar early

thats my humble opinion tho

[real pike]

but I've said before there's a reason some people are constantly parsing pink/orange, and I'm a big purple percy

variance or not

always keen to understand how I can improve my average

ofc holding damage is a bitch

[haughty flicker]

Play better probably

[humble verge]

man like

[real pike]

but on other fights too

[humble verge]

if i could get 99 parses

i would

but its really luck

sometimes youre literally steamrolling your DMkb envenoms

[real pike]

you literally have 2 this season

[humble verge]

or the other where you have to double mut every time

[humble verge]

yeah, but its just basically luck

the 99 one i got today

was because most people went ST for the speedparse

i got to be top dps for once

usually im stuck doing like 8.5 at max

[real pike]

this is what I mean though, the difference between say 95 and 99 might be luck

[humble verge]

its the sad reality

[real pike]

but the difference between these two profiles is not luck

[humble verge]

its more so i have around

120 or so days

of assa play

since october last year

perfecting almost everything

sure im not perfect doing 100 parses

but i can get up there

[haughty flicker]

Considering over twice the kills also probably in a better guild (no offense)

Which helps parsing as well

Up until everything dies insta

[real pike]

ye I would like to get myself to a point that I can hit those parses, if I get lucky

yeah I do agree with that

I know it's a factor

always ways to be improving tho

[humble verge]

i mean

you can log really well in a bad guild too

if you know what youre doing

[real pike]

I don't have the reactions for cod any more, I need to be good at a video game

[real pike]

yeah exactly

[haughty flicker]

Yeah of course

[humble verge]

like this guy from one of my first guilds

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/trollbane/dimsum

hes just really good at monk

so he knows what hes doing

and can still parse in a bad guild

i.e. look at nerub and undermine as well

[real pike]

fuckin hell

[haughty flicker]

Yeah I'm not saying you can't parse really well in a bad guild, its just another factor that can go into it

[real pike]

this is so depressing but also motivating

[haughty flicker]

If youre insane you'll do well anyway

Or just crit more

[humble verge]

and then you have people like this

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/grendini

and im embarrased im from the same nationality

[marsh fjord]

I'm in a shit guild and my parses are quite decent i feel like

[real pike]

yeah

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/tarren-mill/seabatty?zone=42

[haughty flicker]

yeah i'd be embarrassed to be seen with an spriest too

[real pike]

this is a friend of mine

[marsh fjord]

This is mine. and we are currently stuck on dimmy p1.

probaly not gonna get CE

[humble verge]

SV

[haughty flicker]

so are mr combat missers parses, we're looking at the difference between quite decent and literally the top of the top atm

[humble verge]

dawg u have untl feb

as long as your guild doenst disband

[haughty flicker]

and also yeah you can def kill dimi

[marsh fjord]

Yeah thats a like 12 raid days.

[haughty flicker]

unless you have some cursed holidays

[marsh fjord]

break for christmass

[real pike]

nah but he has full orange stack first 4 bosses

[marsh fjord]

we are back around jan 4th

and then we have a month

for two platforms + p3

[humble verge]

we are doing a long break

[marsh fjord]

i dont see it happening 😄

[humble verge]

17th until 7th

[real pike]

having said that I don't have that many kills on some of the bosses

[marsh fjord]

also reclear is the only viable way to really get parses.

[real pike]

yeah we extended straight after we killed hunters for the first time and do the skip to the last 2 now

[marsh fjord]

yeah we do the same

some people in my guild think CE is still doable when pre-patch comes.

i say not

no weakauras

everything tuned down

[haughty flicker]

yeah uh

[marsh fjord]

Different classes

[haughty flicker]

i would not plan on that working out very well

[marsh fjord]

Yeah

I already told them

so its aprox 14 raid days left

[real pike]

that is def enough to kill dimmy

[haughty flicker]

ye theres still hope

[marsh fjord]

Not if you still are wiping to p1 mate

[humble verge]

they are gonna spend the 3 first raid days just wiping in p1

[marsh fjord]

i dont want to be doomer, but its gonna be thighter then my ex her ...

[humble verge]

[real pike]

I feel like if a guild can kill NK they can kill dimmy, cause on NK the personal responsibility is super random whereas on dimmy you can assign it a bit more to your reliables

[marsh fjord]

Dimmy is very scripted.

compared to

nexus king

[real pike]

ye you guys will get it I reckon

[knotty vapor]

though u can't rupture snipe your guildies on dimmy

so -1 point there

[real pike]

I like we both have trash hunters parses

I don't even mind mine being awful

I hate that fight so much

[knotty vapor]

i think trash hunter parses is a universal truth for assass rogues

except that one time where u pull a 99 and never see it again

[real pike]

this is an inherently contradictory statement

[haughty flicker]

i just played sub on dhs

unironically the easier spec there

[real pike]

if I could play sub I would

[marsh fjord]

Our hunter is doing tank damage

he says

its because im raid leading

😄

[real pike]

think that makes me even more frustrated about being average, I'm a sin one trick and STILL getting embarrassed ahaha

[marsh fjord]

Not gonna lie if i get a blue parse on my dimmy kill. im gonna be extremely happy lol

[humble verge]

im glad when i hit my 89 parse on dimmy

but then i realized

theres an EASY potential for me to get orange log

[real pike]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L71vDz8AyM2Rgr34?fight=7&type=damage-done

this one was a lil bit painful earlier tonight

our sham decided she didn't fancy doing her star killer

lul

[knotty vapor]

story of my life

[real pike]

yoooo we average andys together

I feel better now

[knotty vapor]

lesgooo

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[real pike]

kindly fuck off

[humble verge]

[knotty vapor]

purple soul hunters

w/e bro

[humble verge]

yeah

my SH

[knotty vapor]

not even full orange

[humble verge]

will never get orange

we kill him either too early

[real pike]

clearly shopped anyway

[humble verge]

or to late

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5EpAwEWgAAgxuh.gif

[haughty flicker]

ok but what did you parse on lfr dausegne

[humble verge]

who in the hell is dausegne

and why does he scare me

[haughty flicker]

smh

[marsh fjord]

wat is your overall assa rank

[humble verge]

its dog

im 88

[haughty flicker]

imagine not having a dausegne parse

[humble verge]

[marsh fjord]

GIGA

[haughty flicker]

(i have literally no idea why this is the only one thats there)

[humble verge]

only my goat could do that

[real pike]

oki I am up far too late, time for slep

I am going to fuck off the first envenom on dimmy amp and try and convince my RL to just push

thank you for the advice bros, always appreciated

[haughty flicker]

orange parsing midnight

trust

[knotty vapor]

i spent all of sylvanas tier in SL parsing in LFR with nothing but LFR gear

didnt even have a guild

[haughty flicker]

that goes hard

i was aotc andy all of shadowlands

[haughty flicker]

i had an aotc guild but we sucked so much i pugged aotc faster than we got it

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7vBb3wXwAEcMN9.gif

[knotty vapor]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5GrmtqWcAAgtSV.gif

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7xdQKQX0AApP24.gif

alr

almost 3am

time for bed

[waxen oyster]

i feel this servers gives a disproportionate rep of players

because when i look at the average rogue apps

[knotty vapor]

nk be like "oh i see you're at 80% health, have you considered a"

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gets-vaporized-gif-10510675537236673872

[restive falcon]

how many stacks can u get for coin? i just got 31 stacks of the % dam buff on my dimmy kill just now

[marsh fjord]

Well it doesnt have a cap

[restive falcon]

like normally it stops for me at 15

[marsh fjord]

you just gotta be lucky

[restive falcon]

so i jsut assume

[marsh fjord]

yeah it doesnt have a cap

[balmy condor]

ERM

ACTKKAULYLLY

it caps at 99

[lime onyx]

Hey random question but does sigil of the cosmic hunt sim account for missing hp dmg increase in patchwerk sim?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[jovial quiver]

im reading like 2 different things for shiv. do you shiv before dm or before kingsbane? if you do before dm you dont get it for the full kingsbane right?

fatebound raid

[marsh fjord]

Well

if you can reach 99

[balmy condor]

You do it before dm and then when it expires

[marsh fjord]

im giving you 20 mill gold

[jovial quiver]

okay ty

[balmy condor]

I did on ptr for the season when coin buffs didn’t have a duration, does that count

[marsh fjord]

For you sure.

[night summit]

if i cant get myth raid trinkets, which trinkets M+ are good at 730 to replace? I sim different trinkets and nothing beats netherprism

[jolly stirrup]

Lilly and Pacemaker

I think

[night summit]

if i got rid of nether and antenna to replace with those, sims say i lose 102k dps... lol

raid trinkets are OP

[jolly stirrup]

It do be like that

[runic hinge]

How many 299’s you got?

[balmy condor]

9

Doesn’t look like it the way I was bowling today though

[runic hinge]

Only 300’s?

[jolly stirrup]

If I bug on Plattform @saladbar, is it more efficient to send a Solo kb without cb and then have KB and DM available at the start of dmg amp? Or is it still better to wait for cb and stick with the "delayed" full combo halfway into dmg amp

[balmy condor]

2 of those

[balmy condor]

The former

[jolly stirrup]

So send Solo KB and have full combo at start of BL. Got it. Tyty

[distant hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[jolly stirrup]

Easiest W of my life

[rotund oak]

is that supposed to be alot

[rotund oak]

me love you

[marsh fjord]

Depends where you from

[rotund oak]

the only thing that depends is the time u sacrifice into farming/intelligent trading

[marsh fjord]

Just buy gold bro

That’s why it matters

Where you from

[rotund oak]

its complicated

[lusty narwhal]

Idk how people log M NK now without some serious planned padding or something

shit does so fast lol

[rocky zodiac]

Holding DM in P2.2 Dimensius so all CDs align in damage amp P3 is the right call wasnt it? My raid isnt stopping damage so DM would Fall Out of amp If used in P2.2

[balmy condor]

ye

[grand trail]

if you happen to procc tier bug, its generally better send KB right away and than dm at 1:18 or just wait for DM and send everything around the minutre mark

as the fast KB wont have CB

[humble verge]

man, finally got a decent job offer

[balmy condor]

boosting manaforge groups?

[humble verge]

no, local IT admin

[balmy condor]

[humble verge]

~52k salary

with increase in april

finally dont need to boost manaforge anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGso8iIJz_o literally me rn

[jolly stirrup]

Damn nice

[humble verge]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[humble verge]

@red schooner

[red schooner]

Rigged

But also we so back

[weary stump]

Uber with your newfound money you can commission your own funny creature videos

[desert vault]

So for dimensius we only have one dk and he isn’t on my side for knockbacks. Been stepping to the boss which is ok, most of the time but just depends on tanks sometimes if I get slapped around. Any other melee classes that cancel the knockback?

[scarlet orbit]

Dh can

[royal lantern]

warrior aswell

[spice surge]

You dont really need to step on somebody that has cancelled it

The recommendation to step on a DK is because theyll be at the same spot everytime

Its perfectly fine to step literally anybody

[desert vault]

Ok I will play around it some. Can you evasion the boss melee and knock thing?

[spice surge]

No

[desert vault]

I have just been taking the first knockback, second stepping to the boss since there is a big delay before does a melee, then the last two sort of figuring it out we are still pretty early in prog

[humble verge]

first knock you can land on the edge if ure hugging the circle

[royal lantern]

like eleem said, you can also just step anyone, cus it just puts you on the ground where they where

[humble verge]

so thats fine anyways

but just having a dedicated [@player] macro for step is nice

i use it for p3 aswell

[desert vault]

oh I didn't know it put on the ground where they were, that's cool then yeah guess it can be whoever

does someone have a @player macro? for some reason I always mess up something when I try to make a macro it feels like

[royal lantern]

#showtooltip Shadowstep
/cast [@Wifidk] Shadowstep

[desert vault]

thanks!

[fast shell]

Anyone know what WE from the WA command is the coin tracker for fatebound that Whisper uses in their vids?

[jolly stirrup]

Sorry?

[fast shell]

damn I worded that badly but dw I got what I was looking for 🙂

[jolly stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-cat-dragged-gif-1263419341748157821

[jolly stirrup]

Okidoki

[royal lantern]

i now expect you to show up next raid and step on my dk

[jolly stirrup]

[ashen scroll]

is tea still very a minimal dps loss if you let it proc outside of cds

[royal lantern]

it has be more or less equal since the auto proc exists

because, well, you always have a charge for your cds

[humble verge]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdDQ1b3JmM2s5dGNhYWJraWw3Z21wbXdsbDNkNnN5M3lhZ3l3bml5ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EYRC0Cg6lcTdn5Ubaf/giphy.gif

[silver beacon]

so im a total noob at assa just hit 80 and trying to learn the rotation, but is it correct that we don't change targets to spread garrote and rupture during aoe opener?

or do we

[runic hinge]

You don’t have to

Indiscriminate carnage has smart targeting so it will look for targets without garrote and rupture first

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[runic hinge]

I remember we have a command

[silver beacon]

thank you hahah

[runic hinge]

I don’t swap personally but I am a 3k Andy and also lazy

[silver beacon]

i am a 3k andy too

how do you decide when enough is enough then in terms of garrotes and ruptures youve used?

[runic hinge]

Basically use garrote as a builder until ic is over and rupture at least twice for 5 scent stacks and sometimes I throw a couple more ruptures if it’s a pull with some mobs that will die quickly and I might not have 5 out

And by use garrote as a builder I would do that until every mob has imp garrote and maybe one more time on my main target at the very end of ic which I know is wrong but it feels good to have imp garrote up as long as possible on the big target

[silver beacon]

thanks

[proper owl]

Did assassin bleed build get nerf? My damage is much lower than it usually is.

[balmy condor]

no

[red zealot]

!opener

[red zealot]

Do you always DM before KB/CB Combo?

[balmy condor]

yes

shiv -> dm -> kb

[marsh fjord]

My favorite shiv gone

next season

[coral oracle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[knotty vapor]

there's no worse feeling than finding you had an aug in your pug right after u were sure it was a 100

[runic hinge]

I think the worse feeling is dying like 60 seconds before the kill on prog and floor poving it while everyone else is hype and then also parsing a 2

[errant heath]

!MACRO

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[haughty flicker]

dont yell at moroes pls

[severe meadow]

yeah yell at Bel instead

he likes it

[vale shore]

goodbye, my love...

[spice surge]

Really loved overhealing on the first global of the fight by leeching 2%

[marsh fjord]

we need to get our healing parses somehow bro

[spice surge]

Overhealing doesnt count for healing parses

[marsh fjord]

(thats the joke)

Come on eleem

lock in

[spice surge]

Not that it matters anyway

Healing 1000 extra once a fight

Or well, if you open with garrote it does literally nothing

[severe meadow]

You vanish for damage, I vanish for leech value

[spice surge]

It doesnt work on vanish

Only natty stealth

[severe meadow]

I tried, it's bad

[knotty vapor]

that shit was only there cuz they wanted a bg3 reference

[distant plinth]

Wow thats a good idea!!!

[winter roost]

Hi guyz!

Can i find mindnight assa rogue builds here?

[shy creek]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/856136418170896404

Will have in depth info and answers to 99% of your questions

[winter roost]

❤️

[balmy condor]

#midnight-assassination

Is also a thing

And no

We don’t provide builds for beta

It’s a test server, so people should just play around and test stuff

Can use the starter build provided by blizzard

[thorn thorn]

@severe meadow

I found the perfect key for you king

[cedar ocean]

im newer to the spec

what is causing my CDs to be so drastically different on saladhar

also is your 4th KB held for the platform for spatter dmg?

[humble verge]

bruh, youve posted this one before

[thorn thorn]

Yup and im posting it again

[haughty flicker]

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-chat-bubble-gif-15529978361673547987

[thorn thorn]

Bel

[haughty flicker]

[severe meadow]

Bel

[haughty flicker]

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[fallow canopy]

[pale python]

Can anyone link me a good YouTube video on how to correctly spec and what rotation I should use my abilities in? I'm currently playing classic Mist of Pandaria

any help would be greatly appreciated

[balmy condor]

there's some stuff in the pins in #classic-discussion

but 99% of this server is retail

so we're just as lost as you

[pale python]

ah

i see

thank you

[grand flume]

Hi, im having trinket dilemas, currently got mythic Pacemaker and Signet of Priory, but i see everyone (mostly) using the Astral Antenna, which at mythic level for me isn't doable, the 2 i got are simming higher than the Heroic version of Antenna so im assuming i should stay with what i got, or is there some hidden trick that sims don't pick up on with the Antenna?

[marsh fjord]

When you say, don't pick up on with the atenna? what do you mean by that?

[sharp viper]

under simulation options there is the dropdown menu to toggle for how many of the antenna orbs you think you'll be missing

you can calculate the miss chance by comparing the two buffs of antenna from the logs, one you get when an orb spawns and the other one you get when you actually pick up the orb. 1- lower divided by higher and you have the miss chance for that particular route/dungeon

[spice surge]

Unfortunately you dont get the accurate info that way

Because the logs show every refresh as an additional event, so for example if you have 1 orb currently out floating and a second one spawns, it will show as 3 orbs spawned

Same with if you have a buff on you already and soak the orb

so you have to manually count the non refreshes in the event tab to get accurate data on it

[grand flume]

I guess what i'm getting at is, everything revolves around sims in terms of gear, so why do people use Antenna when other trinkets seems to sim higher, at least for me.

unless as you are pointing out i'm not simming it correctly

[fresh kelp]

mythic pacemaker > heroic antenna

[grand flume]

thats the answer i guess, i got pacemaker and signet mythic > any combination of heroic antenna, so unless i can get mythic version ill stay as i am

[balmy condor]

blizzard over the last 2 expansions has done a lot of work to make sure that ilvl is really fucking strong

13 ilvl is a ton

[grand flume]

makes sense i guess

thanks all for your answers 🙂

[sharp viper]

oh damn

I learnded something new

[humble verge]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7xdQKQX0AApP24.gif

[spice surge]

Thats also why in some logs it looks like you picked up 8 out of 6 orbs

When the actual number was 6 out of 7

[crude wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/6-7-clash-royale-emote-clash-royale-six-seven-6-7-meme-gif-8115319692899353691

[humble verge]

kill all blue people

[haughty flicker]

[royal lantern]

#subtlety in danger

[humble verge]

to dig em down

[jolly stirrup]

Do it

[last fossil]

Is Assa in Midnight a DoT spec with good gameplay or is it one of those like Feral that has nothing interesting left?

[main bridge]

#midnight-assassination

[jolly stirrup]

@humble verge

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSP0_YrDYEv/?igsh=MXg4b3Z6N25qcjl5cw==

japaneat.gram

Do you know this ultra-viral Japanese character?
#japan #japanesefood #japanfood #foodinjapan #japanlife

Instagram

[jolly stirrup]

Posted literally 2 minutes ago, and as I saw it I thought of you

Wtf

[humble verge]

posted what

[jolly stirrup]

[jolly stirrup]

.

[humble verge]

i dont see anything tho

the link aint there

[jolly stirrup]

Huh

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DSP0_YrDYEv/?igsh=MXg4b3Z6N25qcjl5cw==

Then like this

[humble verge]

they did a kfc collab like some weeks back

member seeing it on ig

[jolly stirrup]

I love this specific Instagram account ngl

[jolly stirrup]

But ye, saw the cartoon Charakter and thought of ypu

Congrats, you made it into my brain

[dusky maple]

what we feeling on midnight spec wise boys? assassination toppin?

https://i.gyazo.com/5bf11551daae42dbd7ea0ffb8de2452d.png IM NOT confident about rogues anymore

[coral ibex]

#midnight-assassination

[sharp viper]

new Assinissan spec

[pliant remnant]

What we feeling on The Last Titan spec-wise boys? Outlaw topping?

Any time travellers in the chat?

[royal lantern]

Outlaw players are NOT topping

[severe meadow]

Yeah outlaw players are bottoms for sure

[royal lantern]

nah

they are the people that talk about big tiddy goth gf's 24/7, and then cant get a word out when they meet a woman

[pliant remnant]

[grim jay]

so based

[woven ruin]

How is the brawlers guild this time around? Haven't had time to start working on it yet.

[proper owl]

How do you maximize assas bleed build single target? I’m constantly at 100 or less energy mid fight. Or super low on dps when trying to stay on top of 150 energy.

[runic hinge]

you just spam and send, dont play around 150 energy

[severe meadow]

Made for the more casual playerbase, I slammed rank 8 in one sitting

The fights died too fast for them to even do anything until like, rank 6 or something

[royal lantern]

only like 1-2 new fights

[royal lantern]

it literally always was lol

[severe meadow]

Some of the original fights were a bit tough

Like Ahoo'ru, comparing that to the current stuff, is a crazy difference

[royal lantern]

1-2 are overtuned

thats kinda it

[severe meadow]

I was hoping for some more of that xd

But 80% of it was reused fights

[royal lantern]

they will not make a funny little side thing based on the assumption that people are fully geared mythic raiders lol

[severe meadow]

I mean I'm not even fully geared but I do feel you

On top of most people clearing it fairly easy in heroic gear

[royal lantern]

like, if you look at most people doing it

they REALLY struggle with dmg

[severe meadow]

I just wanted to some fun challenging content, is that so wrong 😔

[woven ruin]

I really enjoyed the original version, was hoping they'd keep it going with harder additions to it.

[severe meadow]

You can still do all the original fights, but it's some card you have to buy and it's randomly selected I believe

[agile kestrel]

Mythic Dimmy - Does Caustic spatter hit adds on opposite side P1?

[royal lantern]

no

spatter on dimmy is like spatter on gally, you need to stand next to the adds for it to work

[slate mirage]

this is gonna be a really dumb question, but why are my kingsbane and dm randomly on shorter cooldowns some raid pulls?

[spice surge]

Sometimes the tier set procs twice

Sometimes it does not proc at all

[wise whale]

six 7

[regal linden]

Is there a reliable way to consistently trigger the Lucky Coin bug?

[wise whale]

yes

[wise whale]

#assassination message

[regal linden]

how

[wise whale]

tbh tho you can just play it normal the vast majority of times and be fine

[regal linden]

not on dimensius

[wise whale]

true

do u have an autumn?

[regal linden]

nope

[wise whale]

zzzz

well this post outlines it fairly well #assassination message @regal linden

[regal linden]

ty

[balmy condor]

take note that it's not 100%

and people are just fucking coping

[regal linden]

So the key point is to run away from the 7th coin…

the problem is, I have no idea whether that 7th coin will come from the left, the right, or the back.

[balmy condor]

the lucky coin is always behind you

but like the entire point is that you can technically game the delay

except that you also kinda can't do that

because that's not the full extent of the bug

and the "you can game the delay and just hit" is a twisted game of telephone from when I highlighted the bug in a video like 3 months ago and mentioned that the delay is a likely cause of the jank

people have taken that to mean it's 100%

which it definitely isn't

and even all the proof of being able to 100% it is just..... not verified

like the cope ends up being "oh I didn't get the bug cause I didn't run from the coin or I didn't abuse it properly" or whatever

but the reality is that you just.... don't really have control

like maybe running away makes it slightly more consistent

but even that isn't known

it's theorized that increasing the projectile delay from the coin makes it more consistent but no one has actually proven that

and given that blizzard has pushed 3 hotfixes trying to fix the bug and it's still there

I'm not even sure the projectile delay is even a part of the bug anymore

if it was just the delay from the coin, I guarantee you blizzard has already tried to fix that multiple times

there's for sure some other jank involved in the back end

all of this is just a ramble to say that people who claim to have 100% consistency on the bug are just fucking idiots

cause that's not how that works

[regal linden]