you'd prolly have more fun on prot warrior than blood dk
#assassination
gusty mirage
grim jay
and warrior way more mobile
grim jay
plus guaranteed raid spot w/ shout & rally
not gonna raid past getting my raidstuff on that alt
tbf
on heroic
- upgrade
white bone
Everyone is telling me to go outlaw or sub but I LOVE the assasination rogue
white bone
Fck the haters
gusty mirage
wdym I like being hard stuck 408 on my alt
grim jay
and really good for people that dont have lootluck
gusty mirage
because I cba running 40 keys to upgrade all my spark gear
and I keep getting cloaks and pants
from vault
- I play a caster so I can't even turn brain off for smbg
cuz last boss I have to bait the circle
gusty mirage
true
royal lantern
rare raid loot best thing in existence for mains and alts
cant wait to roll for the raid cloak against 20 people
gusty mirage
@gray crest knows that pain all too well
royal lantern
grim jay
I really want them to add titanforging to rare raid loot
brazen rampart
you're getting it bro
grim jay
brazen rampart
i believe
gray crest
Is this about the horse cocks?
brazen rampart
gusty mirage
Is this about the horse cocks?
gusty mirage
@nocturne lagoon don't you have some raid testing to go to?
nocturne lagoon
gusty mirage
or a 4th alt to level to get ready for splits?
gusty mirage
<a:LOGIN:1093953100454305832>
bro I have to re-do like 80% of my gear to fit this stupid rue shield in
I'm not logging in
gusty mirage
LOGIN
whats your 3rd warrior's name gonna be?
Elgoblinooooox?
like more Os or more Xs?
nocturne lagoon
for now it’s an empty blank cause melee looks trash except for ret
gusty mirage
perf
gray crest
You can only have a certain amount of the same letter in a name iirc
gusty mirage
time to resurrect stabdeeznuts
grim jay
for now it’s an empty blank cause melee looks trash except for ret
unholy sims nutty
gusty mirage
justino goblino is a DK un-enjoyer
nocturne lagoon
Yeah but you have -100 iq points playing that spec
gusty mirage
I miss Justindk
nocturne lagoon
They will cry with no pi
grim jay
Yeah but you have -100 iq points playing that spec
I mean if its -100 it wont matter at that point, since you would prolly be so dumb that you dont know you are dumb 
spice spire
Elgoblinoo was peak tho
spice spire
Nah, he’s changed
spice spire
No longer raids with the goated NA rogue
gusty mirage
No longer raids with the goated NA rogue
Roujin?
nocturne lagoon
gusty mirage
oh
spice spire
Nah, he who shall not be named
gusty mirage
kinetix
spice spire
Bro what did I just say!!!!
nocturne lagoon
Stabdeeznuts ??
nocturne lagoon
Only rogue without cc bound
grim jay
@spice spire did you btw experience anything new regarding last weeks topic?
spice spire
What was last week’s topic 
spice spire
Bro I can’t tell you what I did yesterday
gusty mirage
idk you started talking about league
spice spire
What tf would I experience 
gusty mirage
and I stopped reading
spice spire
Oh yeah lec was yesterday and bds chocked
near valley
Ayo
gusty mirage
ebon notch
wtf
gusty mirage
hello daps
ebon notch
hello oxi
spice spire
Oh
nocturne lagoon
gusty mirage
hope you're having a great day my friend
gray crest
Classic assassination chat
spice spire
That was @royal lantern nah
ebon notch
how about you
near valley
Sin chat full of heathens
gusty mirage
gotta grind poe currency
GOATED RESPONSE
I'm trying to sell my ruetoo shield
for 150 divine
ebon notch
oof
near valley
POE players
ebon notch
kieron wouldnt listen to gold farming methods then be went broke
grim jay
That was <@346293680883236864> nah
yeah but you didnt give your answer yet
spice spire
I ain’t ever had an erection in my life, that’s a sin
near valley
ebon notch
came back to me yesterday with his tail between his legs
gusty mirage
POE players
what am I supposed to do?
ebon notch
had to loan him a million chaos
near valley
log in and do keys?
Obviously this is when you start your Genshin Impact hobby
gusty mirage
lemme get this 24 nokhud done
grim jay
kieron wouldnt listen to gold farming methods then be went broke
you mean
gusty mirage
for 3k io
grim jay
boosting
gusty mirage
wtf is my io anyway
near valley
Shit
gusty mirage
@nocturne lagoon what color is my IO
nocturne lagoon
lemme get this 24 nokhud done
Got one on my warrior
gray crest
I don't think I've done a key in fucking months
gusty mirage
that 19 algethar was with justin
because it was untimed
we've never timed an algethar together
ebon notch
i did some healer weeklies yesterday
nocturne lagoon
True
ebon notch
was fun
grim jay
be real
gusty mirage
nocturne lagoon
Luluweaver dps 💀
near valley
we've never timed an algethar together
So i guess you could say he's never Justin time
gusty mirage
So i guess you could say he's never Justin time
justin was there
when one of our healers
insisted that the balls hitting the elemental boss
didn't do anything
and yelled at me to stop soaking them
so I let 3 hit the boss
near valley
Solid advice that
near valley
Balls there for decoration
gusty mirage
brand new mechanic, they put it in this morning
@nocturne lagoon YOU'RE 2700 IO ACT LIKE IT
gray crest
It is push week
gray crest
Yes
royal lantern
That was <@346293680883236864> nah
UwU
ebon notch
"that must be new"
i remember this story
gusty mirage
LMFAO
my fav was the nokhud
where I didn't run 60 yards away from the boss to stack with him, exo, and kittenz
in zimbabwe
and it was my fault he couldn't keep me alive
I'm suing him and your brother for infliction of emotional distress @nocturne lagoon
nocturne lagoon
RIP
gray crest
You're also forgetting the times he would tank algethar on his bdk for you
gusty mirage
You're also forgetting the times he would tank algethar on his bdk for you
lmao
"I can tank this"
398 bdk
21 algathar
bird boss fucking deleted him
LMFAO
ebon notch
I am playing wrath til 10.1
so next week?
nocturne lagoon
"I can tank this"
near valley
Guy just evaporated
near valley
gusty mirage
"You're not going to survive the bird boss"
"I'll tank it watch, I'm a CHAD"
instagibbed
gray crest
Did you even get to the bird boss?
gusty mirage
yes
after 5 wipes on the tree boss
we didn't finish the key because we couldn't do the bird boss
lmao
storm belfry
yeah that boss fucked
gusty mirage
and they didn't know what they were doing either
"I think we need a poison dispel"
"shut up you 2500 shitter"
"k"
near valley
True
storm belfry
near valley
Learn ur place
gusty mirage
accurate
I learned my place
snagging a +20 cos or smbg for my weekly
and logging off
near valley
near valley
gusty mirage
i pulled a flamegullet yesterday
you need to play RLP with french speakers
it stops being flamegullet
and becomes flame gooolay
near valley
brackenhide is about to be the biggest shit show
Best part is that either most of the mobs have spot invis or there are invis packs that attack you
gusty mirage
it's going to be a blast
that first boss on tyran
is going to absolutely assblast people
that bleed is going to delete people's characters
gusty mirage
every single boss in brackenhide is awful
and every single trash pack
is also awful
near valley
The only good part is highfiving the cub at the end of the gauntlet
runic hinge
Season 2 dungeons just seem so long
near valley
Uldaman may be the freest or most painful key
near valley
Linear 5 boss dungeon
deft flicker
No one actually knows how to do that fight
Wait till MDI, watch the whole dungeon get completed in like 12 minutes, contemplate your life choices
ebon notch
s2 DF is gonna be hour long keys
please no
runic hinge
s2 DF is gonna be hour long keys
Fr tho
near valley
Imagine wiping on Mako Tsunami on halls
gusty mirage
unless they giga nerf them both
near valley
The walk back lmao
ebon notch
oxi when are we chilling in disc playing poe together
ebon notch
respectable
gusty mirage
I gotta finish these 8 challenges
and mail it in
I RNG'd my way into a mageblood first week
ggs
cerulean walrus
POE 
gusty mirage
POE <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
don't you play magic the gathering?
ebon notch
doesn't he play wow?
spice spire
don't you play magic the gathering?
Gather these nuts pal
nocturne lagoon
@stuck knoll is rasz dead ?
spice spire
Don’t ever diss magic the virgining
gusty mirage
In person yeah
cerulean walrus
doesn't he play wow?
Nah dude I don’t
stuck knoll
<@212144638117543947> is rasz dead ?
Aye
gusty mirage
bonkles has bonked his way to CE
stuck knoll
Last night took us 4 pulls
gusty mirage
spice spire
Wish I could bonk my way to his heart 
cerulean walrus
I don’t really play WoW
gusty mirage
I don’t *really* play WoW
ye you only play with my heart
by saying you'll hang out with me
spice spire
True
cerulean walrus
Hey hey hey
spice spire
Ohio man is a wily beast
cerulean walrus
Come down to Ohio bro
ebon notch
did you get rank 1 bonkles
stuck knoll
Wish I could bonk my way to his heart <a:smoge:883124920719126578>
What if you already have 
stuck knoll
@nocturne lagoon sadly it was a Fury kill tho
spice spire
did you get rank 1 bonkles
I am not a leaker
stuck knoll
They asked me to carry 2nd Zealot on blueside and I couldn’t do it as Arms
near valley
voluntarily entering ohio
Should go to Detroit instead
cerulean walrus
I’ve been to Detroit
stuck knoll
near valley
Truein
nocturne lagoon
voluntarily entering ohio
average Ohio citizen
cerulean walrus
True
gusty mirage
average Ohio citizen
@cerulean walrus confirm?
cerulean walrus
That’s me
stuck knoll
I’ve seen his picture
gusty mirage
stuck knoll
He looks just like that
cerulean walrus
Yeah that’s actually me
nocturne lagoon
john pork
near valley
Give me a slice
cerulean walrus
gusty mirage
Yeah that’s actually me
when did you visit hogwarts?
cerulean walrus
Last week
gusty mirage
cerulean walrus
But I already got expelled
near valley
<:WeirdFer:683057077652160544>
I meant of that ass ofc
Smh
BTW you can't run through the wall like in hogwarts
It doesn't work and it hurts like hell
gusty mirage
You have to wavedash through the wall
bless you
cerulean walrus
True
nocturne lagoon
<@163713951392202755> sadly it was a Fury kill tho
grats on the kill
stuck knoll
Ty ty 
nocturne lagoon
are you going to change guild now ?
gusty mirage
stuck knoll
Ye I’ve already moved on
cerulean walrus
He already did
stuck knoll
cerulean walrus
nocturne lagoon
come to NA we pump
stuck knoll
Yee
cerulean walrus
The Ravenholdt Coalition
stuck knoll
come to NA we pump
The gigaton warrior gang
nocturne lagoon
nocturne lagoon
me on rogue is something i wish no one sees
spice spire
shrewd night
bonkles + meownar???
limber lion
:O
spice spire
Meownar an opp
storm forum
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
viscid spear
bonkles + meownar???
Bonknar? Meowles?
prisma sable
How is sin looking for pure ST next tier?
spice surge
How is sin looking for pure ST next tier?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/373/328/b16.jpg
^ average sin enjoyer waiting for patch notes to mention them
gaunt moat
prisma sable
Ugh, this next tier is all ST I don’t wanna get stuck on sub for the 99th patch in a row
spice spire
Why were you forced on sub in 9.2 (outside of like Anduin) and 9.1 🤨
gaunt moat
who's forcing you to play sub?
I've played sin this whole season
spice spire
viscid spear
But we persevere bois
oak sky
🐔
minor gate
Sin players seeing class tuning and no rogue
Don’t even check the patch notes anymore I just check if sin channel is in slow mode
grim jay
Don’t even check the patch notes anymore I just check if sin channel is in slow ...
you still need to read it tho
since it would need to be slowmode for both options
royal lantern
Don’t even check the patch notes anymore I just check if sin channel is in slow ...
efficent gameplay
tacit wedge
finally got my puzzle box :^)
drifting cosmos
only 1 season too late
fading wigeon
finally got my puzzle box :^)
Lol cursed
rapid tundra
How is assassin looking next patch? Thinking of switching my main to Sin Rogue
storm belfry
i say play what you want, doomers will say turn around and pick something else
balmy condor
I mean if you want to play it, play it
if you're chasing flavor of the month
then you're severely misguided
rapid tundra
I figured as much. I really enjoyed playing echoing reprimand in SL and sin seems like the only spec that plays it
storm belfry
yeah rogue atm is not looking to be fotm
storm belfry
ye 4 sho
rapid tundra
yeah rogue atm is not looking to be fotm
Just depends on how well you play the spec I suppose. I'd rather have a really good off meta player than someone whos playing something just cause its "meta"
I mained Survival hunter this first season so.......
lol
storm belfry
i agree with that but just saying it isnt fotm
near valley
you're picking rogue next season if ur a masochist
storm belfry
majority of ppl who ask if x class or w/e is good are searching for fotm
near valley
or you've been snorting copium on a regular
rapid tundra
fotm means flavor of the month I'm assuming?
near valley
ye
storm belfry
near valley
our flavor is currently very sour
storm belfry
i think it tastes good
near valley
some like that tbf
rapid tundra
I haven't touched rogue in forever and been loving sin, so was just curious how its doing
storm belfry
i only play sin atm and i love it
but it is the "worst" of the three
in keys at least
near valley
it's doing as well as your enjoyment allows it to do
storm belfry
but yeah fun imo is more important
rapid tundra
I've seen some really bad rogues this past season haha
near valley
when have you seen me
storm belfry
there are bad players everywhere
near valley
i don't think we're even on the same server
storm belfry
no matter the class
woeful pumice
what were the weakest classes going into DF? Warlock and Hunter look pretty strong, maybe well get overbuffed next patch after we start weak 🙂
rapid tundra
when have you seen me
Idk maybe in an Algethar trying to play sub for the first time cause its uncapped aoe and someone told you it was better
haha
storm belfry
i mean you put equally skilled players on each of these specs and sin will do the least probs
balmy condor
it's reduced past 8
rapid tundra
ww, rogue, warrior
ww definitley trash in 10.1
storm belfry
won't stop me from playing it
near valley
it's reduced past 8
you're reduced past 8
storm belfry
i saw someone with your name on asunas stream while he was playing classic hc @near valley 
is it you
burnt latch
ww, rogue, warrior
dont forget DHs they have the exact same fate as rogue
Non existent tuning and a shite tier set
Sound familiar? 
thorn fjord
Thought warrior was looking pretty good
burnt latch
Its not looking good but its not down real real bad
drifting cosmos
dont forget DHs they have the exact same fate as rogue
dh got tuning recently wdym
dh also got dev talking in discord
burnt latch
Did u read what they actually got
Hardly can call it tuning
And we somehow out did the dh discord in being annoying so he doesnt want to talk here
near valley
We do have <#316923682607857685>
balmy condor
dont forget DHs they have the exact same fate as rogue
Already forgot them
balmy condor
<:monkahmm:585734084571955211> dh also got dev talking in discord
What do you think this accomplishes
burnt latch
balmy condor
Like realistically
Do people think that a dev talking in here equals change
Fully automatically?
misty holly
It at least shows that someone has ideas for improvements and is willing to discuss things
drifting cosmos
No but it provides some insights of tuning
Doesn’t matter how small or how irrelevant
drifting cosmos
To me it’s interesting at least. In grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter ofc
balmy condor
I don’t think it would really do much
spice surge
Unfortunately some people get very heated about their favourite class in a videogame and pings/DMs the dev very bad words
So now he doesnt come here as often, unlucky
drifting cosmos
like we found out foddler is not going away anytime soon for dh
But meh, just another week
balmy condor
Dev communicated about exsanguinate being looked at and considered for future patches
And then it didn’t happen in 10.1 and everyone’s now like
Wow the devs really don’t do anything
They’re actually deadge
Yep
Rogue dead
No fixes
It’s kind of a lose lose
drifting cosmos
maybe 11.0 future
somber bison
Confirmed dead
balmy condor
If they communicate about future things then people will just run with it
If they communicate when things are happening, those are just called patch notes
drifting cosmos
But I did see some news about staffing issues blizzard is having
burnt latch
”We think u guys are in a great spot tuning wise and wont be touching the class as a whole for the 7 week ptr cycle at all” msg from realz wouldve saved a lot of slow mode dooming
royal lantern
Unfortunately some people get very heated about their favourite class in a video...
man, i love to get heated over pointless game shit, but would not DM anyone to insult them
thats another level of degen
balmy condor
”We think u guys are in a great spot tuning wise and wont be touching the class ...
Yeah surely
spice surge
Sensible degenerate 
balmy condor
It would’ve also resulted in a couple bans
And one GIGA slow mode
Because people would be unable to contain themselves
Good litmus test I guess though
royal lantern
Sensible degenerate <:Surebud:1083827360815665235>
worst thing that happens in a dm from me is shity cat memes
rapid tundra
worst thing that happens in a dm from me is shity cat memes
Those are the best
steel spire
I doom to spam this cat
rapid tundra
Speaking of cats why doesn't the rogue discord have a pets channel
balmy condor
I think we might’ve tried but it just ended up being off topic
royal lantern
Speaking of cats why doesn't the rogue discord have a pets channel
ot
rapid tundra
The monk discord has a "peak pets" channel and it's golden
royal lantern
ot jumps bettwen kpop spam from the same 3people, animal meme spam, emote Spam, bot spam, horny and stupid shit all the time
near valley
pet channel probs turned into furry stuff real quick is my bet
royal lantern
near valley
balmy condor
technically accurate
royal lantern
thats why im here
rapid tundra
Thanks for the DM @royal lantern. That was a much needed meme to put a smile on my face today
misty holly
Dev communicated about exsanguinate being looked at and considered for future pa...
How sure are we that Realz even works at Blizzard still? I'm hearing stories about people quitting in droves.
near valley
i'm pretty sure 9/10 of those rumors are coming from people that have some level of dislike for blizz in some way anyway
misty holly
Did you see that tweet talking about striking things off the schedule as people quit. I'
I'm imaging when Realz leaves there is Exanguinate rework written somewhere that gets crossed off
balmy condor
that's not really how that works
royal lantern
yeha....just....dont make assumptions there
rto situation is shity yes, but its more complicated than most people think overall
like everything is in this world
eager solstice
what time do patch notes usually come out?
near valley
rto situation is shity yes, but its more complicated than most people think over...
the shitty or complicated part?
or both
near valley
what time do patch notes usually come out?
yes
spice surge
rarely tuesdays too, its just full rng
trim gust
hey guys! thinking about switching to rogue in 10.1 i see there is still no changes for sin rogue in 10.1? how is the performance compared to sub?
balmy condor
worse
spice surge
I think I've seen PTR notes on a tuesday twice since legion
There was one like 20 days ago
spice surge
But ye they are indeed rare
trim gust
damn was hoping sin could be better heard the raid was alot more single target
balmy condor
assassination does less single target than sub
trim gust
damn 😮 i'm hoping we will get a buff/rework to atleast be a good niche single target spec haha
near valley
balmy condor
no, because phase 3 is execute, and the sin should win there pretty easily
pure moth
Aight
Apparently my guild was qqing i was sin for a long time, didnt find out till after ce that it was happening
rapid tundra
Apparently my guild was qqing i was sin for a long time, didnt find out till aft...
There was a guild on my server that was 6/8M and was crushing progression early in the tier. Then they just up and disbanded cause the Guild Leader quit WoW
eager solstice
There was a guild on my server that was 6/8M and was crushing progression early ...
He quite wow cause he was sin? I understand
rapid tundra
He quite wow cause he was sin? I understand
He was a holy pally i think lol
woeful meteor
There was a guild on my server that was 6/8M and was crushing progression early ...
Not even disbanding on Endboss
Thats the classic move normally
storm belfry
I mean Painsmith caused disbands lol
rapid tundra
Not even disbanding on Endboss
They got to 6% on brood. Then Guild Leader said "I'm out" and he was literally all their leadership. So many people were angry in that guild. Most everyone ended up server transferring
open marlin
do we have rough percentages on tier sets yet? or are we waiting hoping for more tuning?
rotund wagon
They got to 6% on brood. Then Guild Leader said "I'm out" and he was literally a...
I feel like at that point someone should have looked around and said well he’s one person and we are destroying let’s just replace them
heavy forge
Hey ! quick question to those who wander on the ptr/stay updated, do we know if the onyx ring will be of any use in the next patch plz ? quickly gearing my rogue as I won't be tanking anymore so I'd like to know if I need it :p thanks for the answers !
balmy condor
do we have rough percentages on tier sets yet? or are we waiting hoping for more...
no sims
haughty flicker
Takes like 30 seconds to get anyway so you can either just get it now or wait and see what happens and neither way will be an issue
heavy forge
the ring yeah, don't have much keys left tho
I'll get some from time to time and we'll see
balmy condor
Hey ! quick question to those who wander on the ptr/stay updated, do we know if ...
Ring is bis until 10.2 with current tuning
heavy forge
oh okay, thanks
heavy forge
that is more sad to hear, we're not resetting anymore
haughty flicker
If it isn’t changed then I’m sure there will be pugs doing it next tier anyway, so you’ll still have chances for it
Or just ask guild to spend 10 minutes to kill him since it’s literally your bis
heavy forge
yup even a guild quick kill should be manageable if it's still worth
haughty flicker
Much better with it being on first boss instead of being like sylv daggers
heavy forge
plz don't remind me of it
Rogue procs eranog with fire head like feral for exemple right ? no other shenanigan
haughty flicker
yes
next tier there may be some changes with shadowflame embellishment and enchant but for now cowl is still the play
heavy forge
thank you sir
drifting cosmos
Same with the eranog ring
already got BIS for 10.1 then
dont need to play 10.1 to get bis, how good is that
sick aspen
guild I went to raz with just disbanded with 4 nights left after hitting p2 intermission
dont mind me responding to comments from 2 hrs ago, forgot to jump to recent
viscid spear
Excuse me, we were (not) having an engaging conversation here. 
dark token
Pls nerf eranog pls nerf eranog pls nerf eranog
dark token
Who held DPS lol
storm belfry
my raid did
dark token
You don't on prog
viscid spear
*pop a CD before realizing you're like 2 seconds from transition
dark token
Then on reclear why care about holding
storm belfry
we did on prog
misty holly
Same with the eranog ring
wait for real? Does that mean we need to keep using flaring cowl?
misty holly
Some clown was in here yesterday saying shadowflame patch was better. Though I guess that would proc ring too
slow needle
Remember that crafted gear can be upgraded to S2 ilvls.
balmy condor
Some clown was in here yesterday saying shadowflame patch was better. Though I ...
it is for sub/outlaw
misty holly
How close is it for sin?
balmy condor
not entirely sure yet
misty holly
I worry that I stand outside 5 yards sometimes, and am missing cowl ticks
Since we have 8 yard range on abilities
misty holly
SO if its very close, might be better to go with the one that can't miss ticks.
tacit otter
I worry that I stand outside 5 yards sometimes, and am missing cowl ticks
you must have clean 99 avg parse to worry about that kind of stuff^^
misty holly
No I parse like shit, but it could be the difference between a 40 and a 41 my man!
tacit otter
respectable
rain oyster
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz
small rover
Does anyone know how Assa is fairing in the new PTR raid? dont know where to look for info
sharp zodiac
Does anyone know how Assa is fairing in the new PTR raid? dont know where to loo...
Wait until patch day brother. Whispyr will get everyone sorted
small rover
okay ty
compact sonnet
Whispyr the 🐐 no 🧢
balmy condor
Does anyone know how Assa is fairing in the new PTR raid? dont know where to loo...
bad
sharp zodiac
God damnit whispyr
drifting cosmos
heroic week tuning
balmy condor
I mean it's like
really concerning
cause the gear doesn't even have stats
it's all vers/mast placeholders
so we don't have tier sims
but we also don't have bis anything
cause it's all placeholderr
drifting cosmos
Last week wonder. Everything is gonna happen in the last week
balmy condor
the PTR tuning and state of gear
is like
perfectly fine, if the patch were mid june
drifting cosmos
or this can be the biggest fk up path ever
Patch*
But ppl also didn’t like 8months between patches or something like that in SL
So meh
sharp zodiac
the PTR tuning and state of gear
tuning tomorrow
haughty flicker
But ppl also didn’t like 8months between patches or something like that in SL
It probably would’ve been fine normally, but with all the rumors about how many people are leaving I’m not surprised that things seem to be behind
Hopefully things get sorted out because it would be a shame for dragonflight to go the way of the last two expacs despite the promising start
drifting cosmos
I mean they probably could push the release date a month later. I’d understand
But it’s probably not popular idea for the company
Couple of more tuning patches in between etc
haughty flicker
I think it’s definitely too late to push it back now anyway, would look really bad for them
drifting cosmos
Currently things look rushed af
haughty flicker
If they decided earlier I could’ve seen it being fine though
drifting cosmos
But at the end of the day, wowers don’t quit, more like a break and will come back later
sharp zodiac
I mean they probably could push the release date a month later. I’d understand
Legit can’t. Company would never Pair D4 release with patch
It’s obvious it’s rushed because of D4 release schedule. It was either May or July
Have a gigantic fat Q2 profit along with Microsoft merger closing
oak sky
I mean they probably could push the release date a month later. I’d understand
I think their hands were tied a bit because of d4
Probably wouldve been like 6 weeks later if anything
dark token
it's all vers/mast placeholders
Sub stonks
uncut dragon
D4 looks fun tbh
brazen zodiac
🛑
uncut dragon
well, maybe it will have 4 boring maintenance buffs you have to keep up that take up half your rotation just so you can try to keep some dps up but no buttons that actually seem to do enough damage to make a health bar shift but I think they've already used that modeling for assassination in wow
steel ridge
i played rogue in beta and it was actually good fun
some abilities resemble assassination somewhat
you got shadowstep, smokebomb, "deadly poison"
big stabby stabby attack
other than that, you are probably better off just using bow
drifting cosmos
Unsub wow and sub d4
grim jay
first Patch Micro transactions
drifting cosmos
Break even
grim jay
With XP and lootbuffs
jaunty ruin
Where should I post my plater mod? I got quite a few questions from shamans on how to change my mod so it works on garrote and rupture and some from monks, so I thought it would be useful for you guys
jaunty ruin
Well, I did
balmy condor
perfect
jaunty ruin
Ok, it's just a different reaction from monks and shamans, atleast they did not delete the message
flint tusk
That’s bait is what that is. 🙃
jaunty ruin
Well, my message about https://wago.io/Mw6LTDegY got deleted from #assassination and #subtlety
royal lantern
Ok, it's just a different reaction from monks and shamans, atleast they did not ...
its not negative, there is just a "no advertisment" rule on this server
jaunty ruin
Oh, sorry
balmy condor
that breaks self-advertisement rules
royal lantern
atleast not in spec channels
balmy condor
if it's in context of a conversation and someone's like asking about it and talking about it and you link it sure whatever
but just out of the blue is a no no
jaunty ruin
Ok, so do I just post it in #wow-general ?
grim jay
I didn't delete anything
jaunty ruin
Or not at all?
balmy condor
not at all
jaunty ruin
Gotcha
balmy condor
the self-advertisement rule is server wide
jovial verge
bit of a cute noob question here, when the FAQ says to use bonespike to avoid overcapping charges - What does that actually mean? Is that do not let it get to anything more than one charge, or only use it when its about to be at three charges?
jovial verge
Ah okie so just super low prior filler then?
steel ridge
you wont overcap charges if you just USE it sometimes
spice spire
bit of a cute noob question here, when the FAQ says to use bonespike to avoid ov...
If you have 3 charges, it’ll not be recovering one, so you always want to make sure you’re less than 3.
steel ridge
its a good button, use it
spice spire
It’s actually a more efficient filler than Mut
balmy condor
Ah okie so just super low prior filler then?
it's less that it's a low priority and more you don't want to have a situation where adds spawn and you don't have charges
spice spire
^
balmy condor
spreading the dot when possible is huge
jovial verge
I see
balmy condor
if it's something like terros where you never get any adds
you can just spam it away
jovial verge
That makes a lot of sense - thanks folks ~
steel ridge
just done use it when you need to deplete some energy
spice spire
Also not a silly question at all, very good one homie, gl 
jovial verge
Thanks! I'll do my best - I haven't played retail in a long while and its kinda rough after being used to no thoughts headempy two button rotation in classic
steel ridge
haha yeah, assassination has quite a few buttons nowadays
royal lantern
Also not a silly question at all, very good one homie, gl <:whispyrsalute:886819...
what poison should i use?
skilled amp poison in my talens, do we use it?
hollow dirge
if you picked it, you use it. if going dtb, you use amp+deadly
hollow dirge
you never know, people come with all kinds of questions, and sarcasm is often stealthed in chats 😄
grim jay
Tryan just realized his own mistake
grim jay
(it was sarcasm)
So hes trying to hide it with that
royal lantern
grim jay
fluid vector
Super new here, but how beneficial is constantly target switching in m+
rapid prism
its going to happen often outside of vanish/carnage if you wanna do decent dps by spreading your bleeds
steel ridge
Super new here, but how beneficial is constantly target switching in m+
well you want to rupture/garrote as many targets as possible, so you cannot just attack one target all the time
fluid vector
well you want to rupture/garrote as many targets as possible, so you cannot just...
Thank you I always use Hekili for my first two or three keys on a new spec and then I log myself and kind of learn the rotation from there
But while analyzer was saying that I was playing nearly perfectly and I knew that there was no way that was true
But I like this far more than the other two specs
I don't know to be fair outlaw is pretty fun
normal mist
Everyday i jump in this chat, check pins, see nothing new, cry in a corner and turn on ff14 afterwards.
uncut echo
Very cool
fluid vector
There's people with 3500 rating who main ass, good enough for me
normal mist
If 1 people out of 5000 main assa rogue at 3500, it doesn't mean assa is good xD
fluid vector
^
normal mist
My name is also red
uncut echo
Congratulations
fluid vector
My name is teal
limber lion
I mean honestly
If you grind out 3.5k score as Assassination, you either spend a lot of time in queues just trying to find pug groups (probably more time in queue's than in actual dungeons) or you have a group that you play with
Pushing score on off-meta picks is always a struggle because of community perception
gusty mirage
I mean tbh if you're above 3200 you're already spending more time in queues than in actual dungeons regardless of spec
limber lion
And I know a lot of people rather play the game than sit in Valdrakken 99% of the time reapplying to groups over and over
Yeh
gusty mirage
I remember in my old guild we had a dude
who'd sit in queue
for 2-3 hours
and he'd get mad af when the group would fall apart in the first 10 minutes
elder reef
Hey fellas, a question about the legion campaign. I cannot do the Assassination quest for the daggers artifact because the smokebomb will not cast in the scenario. Is this a known issue and does anyone know of a workaround/fix if there is one?
gusty mirage
lmao
limber lion
Yeh, I can understand why that's not exactly that appealing to the majority of players lol
normal olive
wdym coming home from work and spending 80% of your gaming time in queue sounds like a great time
limber lion
Hey fellas, a question about the legion campaign. I cannot do the Assassination ...
This is the first time I've heard of this. I don't recall which part this is because I did the questline back in Legion, but that has never come up before in here afaik
elder reef
Unfortunate.
limber lion
Are you sure it's bugged and you've done everything correctly?
Can you just restart it?
normal olive
Unfortunate.
is this during a fight?
elder reef
I've entered the scenario at least 10 times
elder reef
I just wanted to know if this had occurred for anyone else. I've reloaded UI, logged in/out, waited and came back, no addons, etc
normal mist
On top of all of this, I'm not complaining assa is bad, not at all i like assa the way it is right now, but especially for raid. In dungeons, the time i spend doing things properly and pushing the max dps i can VS sub "aoe generator > aoe spender" and doing double the damage i could possibly imagine doing as an assa... Is just not worth it in my humble opinion
gusty mirage
I'm trying to remember the quest
elder reef
Just gonna put in a ticket. Thanks.
gusty mirage
what's it called again?
limber lion
On top of all of this, I'm not complaining assa is bad, not at all i like assa t...
Let's be real here
Assa is not good
gusty mirage
I remember re-doing some of the legion quests in late BFA/early SL for other classes
and running into some weird problems
limber lion
Idk why there's so many people in here saying "Assassination is good, people just don't play it"
It's not that good
thorn fjord
Theres a chance the smoke bomb it wants you to cast is a quest item interaction... I'd check that 
pseudo rain
how's assassination looking in 10.1?
gusty mirage
same as 10.0
elder reef
No it's not an item in the bags.
limber lion
Worse than in 10.0
normal mist
I isn't that good in comparison with the other two specs no xD
But viable for HC/20s content
elder reef
It's called Under Cover of Darkness.
limber lion
Tier set not looking too spicy
limber lion
But viable for HC/20s content
Yeah, viable doesn't mean it's good
Every single spec in the game is viable in that content
cursive frost
I mean we have to see the numbers and how classes get tuned in the first couple weeks
gusty mirage
where you go to stormwind
limber lion
You can literally play a holy paladin as dps and manage fine'
elder reef
Exactly.
You're supposed to smokebomb the town crier, but when I click the extra action button it never works.
gusty mirage
You're supposed to smokebomb the town crier, but when I click the extra action b...
yeah only thing I found online is disabling elvui, but you said you tried all the UI stuff already. Seems like all thats left is a ticket angle 😦
raven knoll
I remember watching titanforged podcast and Trell said that their team didn't have a rogue in break the meta for a specific dungeon because rogue was banned. Yet assa wasnt. When assa is off meta even for off meta competition.
cursive frost
My personal bigger concern is new raid looks very ranged friendly and melee going to struggle getting in as a whole other than mandatory buff classes
In mythic teams
limber lion
Isn't that every raid ever
limber lion
It's the same conversation every time a new raid drops
"This is not melee friendly whaaa"
cursive frost
I mean vault was melee friendly
gusty mirage
Isn't that every raid ever
I think sepulcher was the only raid that wasn't absolute misery for melee
thorn fjord
SL felt like a melee expansion tbh
thorn fjord
I dont remember hating my life all that much because of melee
spice spire
SoD felt like a melee raid to you?
Except for 2 bosses, he’s actually
pseudo rain
is abberus melee friendly?
cursive frost
Gonna feel like nyalotha again brining only 5 melee lol
spice spire
CN was not a melee tier tho
gusty mirage
is abberus melee friendly?
there's a lot of downtime for mechanics
spice spire
Unless you were a UHDK
cursive frost
Ton of split cleave looks like in aberrus
gusty mirage
but I raid tested exactly once
and I was trying to finish my atlas in poe at the same time
near valley
viscid spear
and I was trying to finish my atlas in poe at the same time
Man knows his priorities
limber lion
I dont remember hating my life all that much because of melee
I've never had that personally. Just some occasional bosses with annoying mechanics, but very rarely it's that bad. Sure, running away with Huntsman marks, SLG Wicked Blade, Inerva orbs etc. is kinda annoying, but they're designed in a way where you don't really get too many times. Getting Inerva orbs 2 or 3 times in an encounter is a tilter for sure, but that's pretty rare.
Then I bang out the boss a week later and don't get hit by the mechanic at all, kinda evens out
thorn fjord
I've never had that personally. Just some occasional bosses with annoying mechan...
SLG blades wasnt even that bad... you didnt have to run all that far out
Innerva orbs were annoying but as melee you usually just took the closest one
limber lion
SLG blades wasnt even that bad... you didnt have to run all that far out
You had to during the first few weeks/month of prog
Nowadays that shit doesn't even cleave so it's super whatever lol
What's annoying is popping all cooldowns on the boss and then getting a mechanic that you have to instantly do
Effectively destroying your cooldowns
thorn fjord
The only really shitty boss as melee in SoD imo was painsmith and maybe fatescribe
viscid spear
I had fun as melee whenever I raided 
Now I'm having fun as ranged
limber lion
Yeh
limber lion
The only really shitty boss as melee in SoD imo was painsmith and maybe fatescri...
Why was Painsmith annoying for melee?
You basically had 100% uptime on the boss
spice surge
Effectively destroying your cooldowns
I watched a tierlist video that said assassination is good because it still does good damage even if you do mechanics (becuase of the bleeds)
limber lion
I watched a tierlist video that said assassination is good because it still does...
Love it
thorn fjord
Why was Painsmith annoying for melee?
I think it was just annoying for everybody LOL
gusty mirage
The only really shitty boss as melee in SoD imo was painsmith and maybe fatescri...
KT was pretty dogshit
near valley
KT sucked ass
viscid spear
You basically had 100% uptime on the boss
(I'll be honest, I ignored spike balls when I was Rogue, sorry Quake)
thorn fjord
KT was pretty dogshit
Never stayed up on KT
gusty mirage
fatescribe
near valley
painsmith was pog
gusty mirage
the nine
thorn fjord
The nine was not that bad
limber lion
Fatescribe is quite possibly the worst boss Blizzard has put out in a long time
gusty mirage
you clearly never played with a healer who took their time dispelling you on open
near valley
soulrender was mid
thorn fjord
My guild is SUPER mid and we killed it less than 10 pulls
thorn fjord
Good luck
near valley
thorn fjord
You're done fasting right?
hardy dagger
Man painsmith was amazing as sub
gusty mirage
yes
near valley
now he's slowing
thorn fjord
You made it 
near valley
gusty mirage
now he's slowing
hardy dagger
You synced flag with balls
cunning nest
I agree on SOD Was the meleefriendliest raid I can remember
Only vault topped that imo
viscid spear
You synced flag with balls<a:pepegashoot:695457128592179330>
Flag dem balls, son
hardy dagger
near valley
terragrue was pretty fun
limber lion
I agree on SOD Was the meleefriendliest raid I can remember
Only vault topped t...
SOD was far from melee friendly lol
thorn fjord
Soul Render was a good fight
near valley
from a revenge standpoint
limber lion
Sepulcher was much better in terms of that
Too bad Jailer and Lords kinda cucked that part
thorn fjord
Sepulcher was much better in terms of that
But sausage and crab sucked
near valley
Halondrous
hardy dagger
What?
hardy dagger
Crab was goated boss
near valley
or Lords when green shit got one melee
limber lion
Never had to move away
Just full blast
Sausage even introduced cleave
albeit for 0.5s
hardy dagger
Crab was the melee boss
thorn fjord
And then battery with the adds spawning a billion yards away
near valley
Lihuvim was pretty melee friendly
limber lion
Fuck Lihuvim
limber lion
Honestly probably the worst encounter in the raid
near valley
was just a boring fight tbh
limber lion
Mythic mechanic was literally non-existent
hardy dagger
Dunno thought it was afine encounter for being a 5th boss
limber lion
Just a running simulator
It was a heroic boss that did more damage and had more health
but the mythic mechanic didn't exist
Good design
hardy dagger
The council boss was ass tho
thorn fjord
I dont even remember the mythic mechanic
near valley
the giant robot
thorn fjord
ohhh right
limber lion
Pull and push groups
thorn fjord
With the suck and push
limber lion
Yep
hardy dagger
You had to be more precise with balls and clearing them
thorn fjord
Yeah that was pretty mindless
limber lion
Giant bot was hc
near valley
kinda forgot that was a mechanic ngl
limber lion
Exactly
thorn fjord
You had to be more precise with balls and clearing them
Flower pattern made that so easy
limber lion
Ya
cunning nest
SOD was far from melee friendly lol
In sanctum, we often had 5-7 melees. For YEARS we tries to have 3-5 until sanctum