Gale

[robust lark]

Is the updater downloading a windows binary for linux users?

[hardy rover]

My theory would have been cus you haven't updated it in so long but that is possible lol

[robust lark]

Elliot is pretty up to date. Going a few minor revisions shouldn't be a problem. I'm super behind because I never press the update button

[hardy rover]

Fair lol

[kindred stag]

For what it’s worth I was having issues on the latest gale and did downgrade to I think 1.5.8

[crisp stone]

A QOL feature I would really want as someone who tests unreleased mods/makes client side modifications often, is the ability to import a code without overwriting manual modifications.

I reckon this could be done by comparing the imported code to the previously imported code, and not modifying any folders/configs that aren't part of either list.

[kindred stag]

This is huge

[umbral herald]

just about to send this

With the 1.6.0 update, profile sync has been released in beta!

Profile sync allows you to share your profiles and update them continuously, instead of creating a new code every time as with normal profile codes. They are hosted completely separately from Thunderstore (I'm paying out of my pocket so I hope it won't be too much)

Creating and updating synced profiles is currently limited to select users (however anyone can download and subscribe to one), but I am seeking some beta testers who are willing to give feedback and report bugs. If you'd like to get beta access, send me a DM and I can add you to the whitelist.

You can also read more about synced profiles here

[kindred stag]

My friends always get annoyed at having to reimport every time we play 😆

This would make things so much easier

[umbral herald]

would you like to get access ;)

[kindred stag]

100%

[umbral herald]

alright

you should be able to log in now

[kindred stag]

Ty I’ll check it out when I get home in ~1 hour

[quasi ridge]

oh profile sync is neat

[robust lark]

Did you look into the auto update thing reported earlier?

[umbral herald]

umm

not sure what this is about

Maybe the latest release works?

[eternal tulip]

Bobbo you are amazing!

how do they work?, can everyone change things on the profile?, or is it like only the host

or am i understanding this completely wrong

[umbral herald]

yes, only the owner of the profile can modify it and push updates to the subscribers

[eternal tulip]

that is really awesome i love it

Idk whether to ask for access since i don't usually play with more people but it surely would be very handy

do you plan on making this public in the future?

[umbral herald]

Eventually, if I can make it work well (seems like it already works though so that's a relief) and it doesn't cost too much

I'm basically paying out of my own pocket and outside of donations I don't make any money of Gale

it's a very cool thing but I'm still unsure if it's going to be sustainable for me

[eternal tulip]

yeah and thank you so much for doing it, mmmm you know what if it is possible i would like to join the beta testing hehe, would it work if only i have acces but my friends don't?

[umbral herald]

Yeah sure

would it work if only i have acces but my friends don't?
only beta testers can upload and update profiles, but anyone can subscribe (they don't need to be logged in)

[eternal tulip]

awesome! tysm

[umbral herald]

You should be able to log in now

[eternal tulip]

oh that was fast

yippee!!

[umbral herald]

nice

[umbral herald]

i've set it up so it's only a couple of clicks for me

also means I can ban you in the same time >:)

[eternal tulip]

😮

no please dont do it :ccc

i'll behave

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-crying-kitten-crying-05starrynight-gif-10141647709992578610

[eternal tulip]

should i just send the code that appears there to my friends?

and they add it like a normal profile code

[umbral herald]

yes

[eternal tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186515716124459088/1361185505550794783/gale.gif

[cedar ledge]

is it a monthly rate or pay-as-you-go?

[hardy rover]

This could honestly be extremely useful for me too, cus it would save the need for needing to send multiple codes if I need to update or change anything when doing collabs lol

The amount of times I make changes and export new codes lmao

[pallid sky]

peak update

[kindred stag]

hehe (linux)

[robust lark]

oh no

[kindred stag]

had to download from the git manually to get 1.6.0

[cedar ledge]

Also, I'd love to beta test it if you don't mind

[mighty oxide]

1.6.0 is stable, yea?

[umbral herald]

The storage is a fixed $6.25 a month up to 250GB and 1TB network traffic/month so that's good. The database and vms is the biggest concern as those prices scale with usage

That's why I don't want to let everyone in cause the costs could skyrocket

[cedar ledge]

I see. So a mix of both. That monthly rate doesn't sound too bad, but with the database cost it makes sense why you'd want to limit how many people are testing the feature

I'd still like to participate if there's room. If you've got enough beta testers for now, I'll avoid asking again unless you do another "wave" of testing

[thorn thunder]

i would love to help out with the beta if that is alright. personally i wouldnt mind donating aswell if that is a possibility. id love to support gale as i much prefer it over thunderstore/r2modman

[umbral herald]

Yeah sure, I think I'll add you two and then it's probably enough for now

@thorn thunder added you to the whitelist as well

also you can already donate at https://ko-fi.com/kesomannen

It's a bit hidden in the app so I understand if you missed it

[stable cedar]

can i be a tester too?

[umbral herald]

thanks but I have all the testers I need for now

[stable cedar]

ok i understand

[umbral herald]

I'll be sure to send a message here if I seek any more

[stable cedar]

ok

[cedar ledge]

Oh, thank you. I'll be sure to report any issues and feedback

[wooden whale]

Does Gale have its own discord server yet?

[bold hornet]

it's had one for quite a while

[umbral herald]

It's linked in the readme

[thorn thunder]

hey @umbral herald i hate to bother you but i seem to keep having an issue with gale. for some reason windows defender thinks its malware and keeps uninstalling it automatically

[nova sandal]

are you sure you installed it from the right place? i installed it just fine

this is where you should be getting it from
https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/releases/tag/1.6.0

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Kesomannen/GaleModManager/

[thorn thunder]

pretty sure

ive had it installed for like 6 ish months

and just used the update button

[nova sandal]

reinstall the installer from github and run that instead

[thorn thunder]

i did

i completely uninstalled it and reinstalled

same issue

did it a second time

is it because i have beta access?

[nova sandal]

cant be that the app is the same with and without beta access

[thorn thunder]

strange

well ill back up all my profiles in a code and then delete the appdata folder

[nova sandal]

so try doing these tyhings:

1. update windows/windows defender
2. remove gale from task bar (or disable if prompted in installer)
3. use some app that completly removes everything from an app and reijnstall
4. run windows defender offline scan (will take a while

number 3 might delete profiles so make a backup somewhere else

[thorn thunder]

ill do a malwarebytes scan rq

i usually dont use it unless something like this happens

doesnt even run in the background usually

strange

all files are alright

[nova sandal]

i know this is probably not gonna work but "have you tried restarting"

[thorn thunder]

i can

hold up

[thorn thunder]

weird

i restarted my pc and it just worked fine all of the sudden

im sorry

hope i wasnt too annoying

[nova sandal]

no problem

[tiny crater]

how do i get this i need this now

[nova sandal]

#1246088342458863618 message

[tender hare]

@umbral herald Could you add a log feature for actions that the user does, like removing (mod), updating (mod), added (mod), updated (config)

[umbral herald]

I could but what would be the use case of that?

[tender hare]

For modpack devs, sometimes I change stuff in a profile for a new update, but then when writing the changelog I forget what I changed.

[kindred stag]

dementia gaming

[signal rock]

I do like this idea.

[sleek path]

Does anyone know how to recover this file?

[sleek path]

Translation: "The specified file cannot be found.

[sleek path]

fixed it

[eternal tulip]

hey Bobbo just wanted to say a nitpick regarding the shared codes, whenever a friend updates the code every mod that was updated goes to the top of list, not a big problem, just that i have the mods arranged in a specific way, and this makes that pointless

nothing game breaking or anything just a nitpick but would appreciate if you could look into that

[slender trellis]

Having this same problem, how did you fix it?

[slender trellis]

never mind I fixed it

[long jacinth]

is this feature released? I noticed I can click sync and connect to it/make a code though I wasn't exactly sure if I'm understanding the UI right

[eternal tulip]

Pretty sure its still in beta testing and only a few people have acces to it rn

As it is paid from bobbos wallet so its hard to maintain a lot of people using it

[long jacinth]

ah. cool then!

i'm not sure if this is new but trying to view any RoRR mod won't display properly

nvm i just joined the gale disc and saw its an outage

lol

[umbral herald]

It is public now

you can find more info on the github wiki

[eternal tulip]

Oh really?? Awesome!

[kindred stag]

Did you figure out something to make it not be costly?

[umbral herald]

I moved the storage to another service so that lowered it a bit

but it wasn't very expensive anyway, much less than I was anticipating before the closed test

[hoary pawn]

suggestion for the new sync feature
as a subscriber, can we have access to look on configs input that have long list?
example : I tried to look for the interiors weights but I cant (I can copy and paste it somewhere or drag highlight it but its a QoL if I can just click and look it in Gale)

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Noticing sometimes if I switch from one game to another after the 1.7.0 update it's doing this. A restart of gale fixes it

It's pretty easily reproduceable too, it made me think my REPO profile was corrupted originally so I recreated that one

[hardy rover]

This also seems to be fixed by swapping to the Browse tab and back

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Just tested the new Gale update and that bug still happens when switching between Lethal and REPO for me lol

Was curious to see if it was related to the UTF-8 stuff but ig it wasn't

lol

[hardy linden]

Can confirm this, though as you say it is easily resolved in the meantime

[robust lark]

@umbral herald Hey buppy, I have a quick Q about Gale's override folders. If a mod uses https://github.com/BepInEx/BepInEx.MonoMod.Loader/ which requires patches to be in BepInEx/MonoMod can Gale handle adding files in there?

Okay, I searched the Gale source code and found a reference to an override for *.mm.dll so I'm going to assume it will work

[gaunt haven]

Hello, I wanted to ask what steps I should follow on Steam Deck to install Gale. I have downloaded the 3 files that are indicated, but when I try to open Appimage, not working. It goes into a loop where when I try to open it, a window opens in the folder I'm in.

[pallid sky]

Hello!
Just to inform.
I have been uninstalling old applications on my computer, and I realized that I had 2 different versions of Gale installed, one being the current version and the other version 1.4.3
I had to uninstall the old version manually so it doesn't affect the current Gale, but I find it a bit strange to have these two instances

[dapper harbor]

[pallid sky]

yup

[umbral herald]

Sorry I forgot to press the button

should work now

[thorn dawn]

wut

[dapper harbor]

why did i update from 1.6.4 the pain

changing launch mode to direct fixes this tho

or, not fix it but work around it

but then it doesnt show it on steam anymore so how would i be able to invite anyone

good thing im not playing throughout the week anyways

oh wait now it does

ah well theres still something broken either way

[umbral herald]

fix is coming soon

[wooden whale]

I updated but now whenver I try to open my game it says "Failed to launch game - Failed to find steam binary: cannot find binary path."

ah

just saw all the other ppl with the same issue

mb

[dapper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-phoebe-wuthering-waves-bonk-gif-15422756091758548254

[wooden whale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-cat-shoo-biscuit-gif-8024642674144447563

[dapper harbor]

what happened to all the menu stuff at the top like import and export

i cant even move the window around like this

[umbral herald]

Someone reported a bug with the native menu checkbox and that

try to toggle it on and off

[dapper harbor]

ah its back

[umbral herald]

seems to be a windows thing maybe? I'll look into it a bit later

not a crucial bug though

[dapper harbor]

after updating to 1.8.0 it was there just fine (your menu bar despite the native being ticked) and after restarting gale so the update button pops up it was just gone entirely lol

also it doesnt seem to save my setting there

like, i turn it off and when i restart gale its turned on again

[deft locust]

it works fine on Linux, atleast for me

[umbral herald]

yeah me too

[gaunt haven]

On Steam Deck, when I tried to open Gale, it just ended up on a blank screen, but since there were errors before, I haven't tried again yet. When I do, I'll comment.

[gaunt haven]

Out of curiosity, what steps do you follow besides downloading the files indicated for Linux?

[tender hare]

@umbral herald Is there a way to make the things on the left back to icons instead of text

[umbral herald]

no but this was also suggested by someone else

[cunning rapids]

or make it like this

text under icon

[tender hare]

please add a config 🙏

[deft locust]

i just dowloaded the .deb file and installed it

[fervent frost]

i have no top bar? 🤔 https://i.1a3.uk/1749170014.png

[severe belfry]

(this and a little under)

[hardy rover]

disable the native bar, then reenable it

[fervent frost]

ah i see thanks

[dapper harbor]

It never sticks tho it's gone on every start

Atleast for me

[hardy rover]

Not for me, once you disable it and reenable it it fixes, turning it off causes a bug where it attempts to reenable the native bar but you have no bar at all on next launch

so just turn it off and back on til a hotfix is pushes

[scenic helm]

just wanted to say I'd also like to see a config to either remove the sider bar's text or move it under the icons

lots of wasted space otherwise

[umbral herald]

Of course once I switch to Linux a windows bug appears 🫠

But I'll try to get it fixed today

[umbral herald]

Lots of people have said this now

[hardy rover]

I didn't even know you moved over to Linux, what distro did you end up going with?

I really wanna move over but the tracking and stuff I use for vtubing won't work on Linux 😦

[umbral herald]

linux mint

it's basically windows

[hardy rover]

Mint is a great one to start with

You can never go wrong with it

[umbral herald]

It's worked pretty flawlessly

The installation was like easier than windows

[gaunt haven]

Oh well, idk, I tried the latest update (I think it's 1.8.2) and on Steam Deck, Gale just goes blank. Besides, it causes me too many errors, the screen freezes, duplicate screens, etc.

F because I can't use r2modman on Steam Deck either because it causes me some uncomfortable errors as well.

I still have the option of downloading the mods manually, so. XD

[cunning rapids]

for me auto updater breaks launcher making it white blank due to egl bad parameter, so I instead just download .rpm manually

[crisp stone]

Bumping this

Wait did you already do it? lmao

Just imported a code and my client modifications from before are still here

[proud verge]

How does this keep happening?

It happens when making an attempt to download mods

after like a few attempts of this

then I am able to download the mod

the number of attempts are random

[robust lark]

forwarding some feedback from a server you're not in, bobbo

[proud verge]

Ah

[robust lark]

Ah

[proud verge]

So thats all?

it doesn't read readmes properly?

at times?

[robust lark]

It seems to forgor about readmes for local mods when you click away from them

[proud verge]

huh

so ironically enough

it forgets to read readmes

[robust lark]

shaking my smh my head at u, bobbo

[proud verge]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-gif-23884566

[brisk violet]

smh didn't listen to the filename

[proud verge]

[bold hornet]

yeah if you click a mod that's not locally imported, and then you click a mod htat is localy imported, it'll show on the right the readme of the mod ebfore the locally imported one

[gaunt haven]

I already downloaded it manually, I didn't know it could update automatically, haha. 😅

[fervent frost]

LethalExpansion

[proud verge]

Okay look

wanted to downpatch for fun

[fervent frost]

😂

[proud verge]

make an old version of my Ultra Modded Modpack

I had a lot of trouble

its not working out so far

remember that weird bug where when you load into your ship you actually see like grass

or however you describe it?

[scarlet hound]

small nitpick but when registering a custom type gale reports it as the string type instead (its still perfectly editable though)

[lusty granite]

Hello! Could someone explain me the "Override location" setting?
I'm using a copy of the game files from Steam for mod developing purpose and have it installed on another drive, but Gale still launches the Steam version:

2025-06-08T01:03:12.470146Z  INFO gale::profile::launch: using game path override at D:\games\LethalCompany
2025-06-08T01:03:12.470286Z  INFO gale::profile::launch: copying doorstop_config.ini to game directory
2025-06-08T01:03:12.475578Z  INFO gale::profile::launch: copying winhttp.dll to game directory
2025-06-08T01:03:12.478843Z  INFO gale::profile::launch::platform: read steam installation path from registry: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam
2025-06-08T01:03:12.478910Z  WARN gale::profile::launch::mod_loader: .doorstop_version file is missing, defaulting to 3
2025-06-08T01:03:12.478978Z  INFO gale::profile::launch: launching lethal-company with command "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Steam\\steam.exe" "-applaunch" "1966720" "--doorstop-enable" "true" "--doorstop-target" "C:\\Users\\benqbenq\\AppData\\Roaming\\com.kesomannen.gale\\lethal-company\\profiles\\Default\\BepInEx\\core\\BepInEx.Preloader.dll"

I guess it's not possible to do so?

[umbral herald]

To use an exe in a different location you have to set the launch mode to Direct

when it's on Launcher, the game location is only used to copy mod loader files that need to be near the exe

[lusty granite]

Thanks! Didn't pay attention to these settings, now it works

[lusty ingot]

Any solution?

[kindred stag]

Delete the mentioned profile

[late stirrup]

A friend of mine keeps having the same issue where Gale forgets where his profiles and executables are located, as he described it

is anything like this a common issue?

[umbral herald]

Did you revert to an older version?

[hoary pawn]

ye i tried

from 1.8.2 to 1.6.1

[umbral herald]

that isnt supported by gale

were you having an issue with something?

[hoary pawn]

im having a slow download when I updated to the latest version.
so I tried to downgrade
maybe just my connection just being slow for some reason

i stick with the latest now. ( having slow internet sucks )

[umbral herald]

version change probably wouldn't change that

it could also be an issue on thunderstore's end

[hoary pawn]

its fast again!

[barren junco]

as expected

@umbral herald is the installing of the mods on the same thread as the downloading ?

like decompressing and all

would it be possible to make concurrent downloading and installing when downloading modpacks ? Like when it finishes downloading a mod, it adds it to the decompress & install queue and does the I/O operations right next to the downloading there's no "installing mods" step

[barren junco]

Is the site down ?

Like the synchronization server

It's back

[umbral herald]

They're not on threads but rather tasks

[umbral herald]

It would be possible but extracting and installing should be quite fast

So I'm not sure it would be worth the complexity

[barren junco]

Hmm

@umbral herald Somehow the server return errors when pushing or pulling updates

did you make a change ? it was working before

it broke around 20:00

[umbral herald]

Cloudflare is having an outage https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/25r9t0vz99rp

Apparently took down a lot of the internet

[barren junco]

Aaahhh

[hardy rover]

Let me know when this is fixed, this also breaks the SQLite feature of AsyncLoggers as @signal rock found out lmao

[umbral herald]

what? that makes no sense

why would sqlite need cloudflare

[hardy rover]

I have no idea, but AsyncLoggers broke for him even on a fresh profile 🤔

[umbral herald]

gale also uses sqlite btw

[hardy rover]

Yeah idk then

That was my only guess, maybe his pc just did a dumb

😆

He at least fixed it though

[hardy rover]

Seems Cloudflare just came back up

[umbral herald]

yeah nice

[pallid sky]

afaik it's a google issue

[umbral herald]

google uses cloudflare

[pallid sky]

oh, I see

[umbral herald]

at least I'm quite sure of that

[proud prism]

https://i.imgur.com/1WI0co1.png

Is this going to be fixed? When switching games every mod is "missing"

Sure you can fix that by just reloading the list but man its an eyesore

Its been happening since 7 days or so

Simple F5 refresh fixes it but surely this isnt intended behavior lmao

[hardy rover]

Yeah I've mentioned this happening before

[stable cedar]

have you made a website for gale or is it a scam?

[dapper harbor]

[flint eagle]

It would be a great function if it were possible to copy all mod configs from one profile to another or even better, if it were possible to specifically choose the mods from which the configs should be copied to the other profile and simply transfer all at once.

[umbral herald]

you can copy and paste the files

[umbral herald]

Yes, https://kesomannen.com/gale

it's pretty empty though

the sync api is also at https://gale.kesomannen.com but that isn't really a website

[flint eagle]

Oh yes, I'm aware of that. But it takes a lot of time to do it manually for several mods and profiles. That's why I suggested it.

[robust lark]

The problem with that suggestion is that it is not trivial to decide what mods own what config files. Mods are encouraged to use their GUID as the name of the config file but you can make a new ConfigFile with any string you want

[stable cedar]

i mean this one https://galemodmanager.com/

isnt it a scam?

its showing in the top 2 results

[barren junco]

it is a legit site, like it does redirect to the repo, and the files are also coming from the repo, but it isn't made nor certified by Kesomannen 🤔

that said it never tells explicitly in the Disclaimer or Privacy Policy that they are not the owner of Gale

and never credit Kesomannen

[nova sandal]

I guess they got impatient waiting the official site to say something usefull and they made their own.

[barren junco]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning notch]

there are also a bunch of fake sites for r2modman

[umbral herald]

It is not mine

That's concerning

Although I guess allowed since open source and allat

[umbral herald]

Download files seem legit

[frigid heron]

for now

[crisp stone]

^^
No reason to host it if they don't benefit, and since they aren't involved with you who knows what might appear in there

HUGE privacy policy page with way more stuff than your official page has
https://galemodmanager.com/privacy-policy/

Though weirdly enough there is a disclaimer at the bottom

© 2025 Gale Mod Manager | This website is for informational purposes only and is not an official source.

Really weird grammar too, unless this is normal for contracts? I don't think so... It is nvm

[frigid heron]

what in the everloving fuck

that's so creepy

[bold hornet]

how the fuck do they already have my name and emial

[umbral herald]

https://galemodmanager.com/wp-login.php 😏

seriously I should contact them

at least know who's behind this

[pastel grove]

you might need to do something about owning the name and icon tbh

[robust lark]

Yea, Pawys is all GPL and junk but her name and icon and branding are all no derivatives allowed. You can make your own bot but you can't brand it "Pawsy" or use her media in any way. Gale should also follow that rule

[dapper harbor]

[brittle frost]

Meow meow!

[barren junco]

They just copy pasted some privacy policy from somewhere and modified it to fit their branding

[barren junco]

You know what concerns me ?

[robust lark]

Some of it sets off my AI generated alarm bells tbh

[barren junco]

Contact tells you you can receive mail from them but not the opposite !

Their email is not even on the contact page wtf

[crisp stone]

"give us your email address and a message so we can ignore you"

[barren junco]

Exactly

Let's say our dear man keso wants to tell them they don't agree with what they do

They can just ignore it as it's a one-way mailing system

[crisp stone]

The disclaimer at the bottom is really fkin weird too

"not an official source"

Then what the hell is this webpage?

[barren junco]

It's a notice on how to use it I guess ?

It's clearly a static site btw

So it's probably hosted on GitHub

[crisp stone]

Best guess is it referring to the download being from github

It also promotes 1.5.10, which is three major versions behind by now

[barren junco]

It's not even automated ooof

[umbral herald]

I haven't checked but I believe it is the default wordpress one

[barren junco]

I see

[umbral herald]

Definitely, it also has wildly incorrect stuff at places

[crisp stone]

It is outdated by a month or two btw, so some stuf will be incorrect

[umbral herald]

I feel like this is decently common

At least these contact forms

[umbral herald]

It is

[robust lark]

Its.. such a useless garbage site and I don't understand why people feel the need to bother

Its like people that reupload mods and think "I didn't make this all credit to the author" is okay

[barren junco]

Honestly I don't think there's bad intention behind it

It's just... Not done correctly

[robust lark]

I just don't understand the good intention, is my point. Its just competing with the actual site for real estate and not up to date

[barren junco]

it was very probably created because at this time the actual site did not exist

and/or

because the SEO of the actual site may be bad

yeah the SEO is really bad

it makes sense that it was created for that

Kesomannen probably needs to add a few more tags for the referencing of kesomannen.com/gale

Yeah kesomannen's website has literally nothing for SEO

[umbral herald]

Yeah

Wasn't really meant to be the main site

I'd hoped the github page would be the main page but doesn't seem so

[barren junco]

damn I've just figured someone did a review for your mod manager lol

[tranquil cradle]

Spooky site

[gaunt haven]

I've been testing to see if Gale works on my Steam Deck, but I've found it impossible. I don't know what I'm doing wrong and what makes this occasion different from when I first installed it months ago, lmao.

When I open Gale, it just goes blank.

Does this work as a log? I just discovered it, lol

[umbral herald]

This is a known issue with the appimage

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/issues/156

[gaunt haven]

There are some things I don't understand due to my lack of English. I think the bottom line is that it's not going to work and that you pressed a very funny button. 🤔

[umbral herald]

Sorry, I'll explain it a bit clearer

The issue seems to be that tauri isn't bundling one of gale's dependencies with the appimage. You can try to fix it by installing the dependency yourself, however it isn't guaranteed to work in which case it's kind of cooked.

The command to install the dependency should be sudo pacman -S webkit2gtk-4.1

Alternatively you can get gale from the aur (arch user repository) instead of downloading the appimage

[gaunt haven]

Okay, I don't know if I understood correctly, but one of the possible solutions is to type that command into... the command console? 🤔

[umbral herald]

Yes

I don't think they were using a steam deck though

The person who suggested it

But it should work the same

[gaunt haven]

Ohhh, I think I understand. I didn't really get much of the AUR page, but I guess if I just poke around, I'll figure out how to do it, lol.

[gaunt haven]

Well, if I try it, we'll know if it works on Steam Deck. XD

[cunning notch]

it'd probably be best if gale was available as a Flatpak on Flathub, and if that works on a linux machine, it should work on all linux machines

[robust lark]

alternatively: heck flatpak

[hardy rover]

Yeah I've heard flatpacks are usually not that good tbh

[cunning rapids]

iirc tauri doesn't support flatpak yet

[cunning notch]

wah what does that mean

I mean I don't know shit about flatpak packaging

[cunning notch]

as long as there aren't issues with the package like badly configured permissions, flatpak is the best thing there is in my experience

[cunning rapids]

oh wait it actually support now (just direct build command will not work)

gale is using v2 tauri, right?

[cunning notch]

it can be shipped by the developers and is a single target that is tested so it should likely work

[cunning notch]

oh nice

[cunning notch]

like if you have a flatpak, you don't need to maintain different packages for different distros

[robust lark]

True but also flatpaks are like a squintillion gb so I never use them unless I have no other choice

[gaunt haven]

Update: I didn't make it (-1000 pts).

[short star]

How is that any different from an AppImage?

[cunning notch]

app images don't have a package manager, at least an official one afaik. And App images kinda bundle everything and hope there's enough dependencies, while flatpak targets a specific uhh runtime? Or whatever thing, which will make sure that they run in a similar environment always and therefore should be more reliable and probably smaller. At least that's my understanding of things

also flatpaks are sandboxed

and they need to use xdg portals or whatever to do stuff they don't have permissions to do

[short star]

AppImages are also sandboxed iirc

[cunning notch]

huh

[short star]

AppImage bundles required dependencies although I don’t really know how Flatpak runtimes are really any different

Flatpak runtimes contain what would be the same dependencies because both are self contained

I think the only real benefit is flathub but even that’s a stretch honestly

[cunning notch]

I think the benefits are probably size and reliability because of the environment

[robust lark]

"size" should never be considered a benefit when discussing flatpak

[cunning notch]

since flatpaks also share the dependencies if there are multiple packages using the same stuff

[robust lark]

Every flatpak ever is like "lets ship an 8gb runtime for my single gui app"

[short star]

I think the space saved is minimal because dependencies are usually incredibly small

[cunning notch]

and if you have multiple versions of different platforms like I guess GNOME or whatever, flatpak doesn't have each version installed completely separately, afaik it works kinda like git so it is more efficient space wise

[short star]

Granted there are obviously scenarios where that won’t be the case, I don’t think Gale would necessarily benefit from it

[willow hare]

Is something bugged when importing local mods?

My friend sent me this

[crisp stone]

I think importing locally doesn't check for existing mods

[willow hare]

it is weird because he correctly imported every mod but when he updates it wants to redownload these mods

[primal barn]

Do you reckon its possible to make the game selection automatically update depending on what communities are on thunderstore. So like if a new one gets added you dont have to wait for it to be added its just instant when you boot up gale.

[umbral herald]

Local mods don't replace thunderstore mods

They likely downloaded the one copy then locally imported the other one

[umbral herald]

Thunderstore doesn't have all the required info for gale. The closest you could get is having a file hosted somewhere (maybe in the github repo) that the app pulls from on startup. However I'm not super fond of having a network dependency like that, since it introduces complexity (like not knowing what games exist on startup) and just extra stuff to maintain

[willow hare]

ok interesting i thought it would

for some reason he gets an error while fetching mods so he has to import them locally

[umbral herald]

What's the error?

[willow hare]

error while fetching mods from Thunderstore - error decoding response body: error reading a body from connection: end of file before message length reached

[umbral herald]

Seems like a network issue. Does it happen every time?

On all games?

[willow hare]

fetching takes a really long time then gets stuck (usually at around 20000) then this error pops up and it stops completely

[willow hare]

unsure we only play lethal

[hardy rover]

I'm not having any issues with fetching

[umbral herald]

Try another game with less mods

[willow hare]

i think it used to work when he was using TS (still took forever)

[umbral herald]

It could be that his internet is just too unstable/slow to fetch the whole mod list

[willow hare]

i dont have these issues too

[willow hare]

probably his max download is like 1mbits

[hardy rover]

Yeah that's possible, maybe have them try R2 instead

[umbral herald]

ah

I'm not sure gale can do too much about that

Retrying the download probably wouldn't help

[willow hare]

it just seems to error out instead of just taking really long

[umbral herald]

I would guess the request hits the max duration

I think r2 and tmm use a different method of fetching mods where they split up the request. That might be why those managers don't error out

[willow hare]

might be worth a try

can he copy his current gale profile to r2?

[umbral herald]

Export it as a code and import in r2

Or file

[willow hare]

ok might try that 👍

[velvet oxide]

I have a question

Are you gonna add the folders to configs?

Like on thunderstore

Because it takes quite long to get to 'gale' to load custom music for the boombox or the cruiser

[robust lark]

@umbral herald I updated Gale to the latest release and now its always looking in .local/share/Steam/steamapps/libraryfolders.vdf which isn't correct for a large number of distros and there is no global override so my install is broken(?)

The idea of the per game override field seems bad because I need games to launch via proton so Gale still needs to know where my steam is

The last working version I had was like 1.3 something

[nova sandal]

What if the game json file and images are stored locally and on startup it checks if there was an update on the hosted file if there is it downloads it and restarts to apply changes, like that you can still use the mod manager while offline and it wouldn't add much conplexity since game list is know on startup and even if theres an update on game list an automatic restart would fix it.

[umbral herald]

It's using the steamlocate crate now which should look in most locations (does on my distro where steam is under debian-installation somewhere). However it should still work with override location, since that is only used to find for file copying purposes. The steam binary is found in another way

[robust lark]

kinda sucks that I have to use the override field in every game :<

[umbral herald]

Where is your steam installed?

steamlocate checks all of these places: https://github.com/WilliamVenner/steamlocate-rs/blob/master/src%2Flocate.rs#L83-L94

[robust lark]

~/.steam/debian-installation

there's also a symlink at ~/.steam/steam so like it should be finding those but Gale just won't launch my games unless I add an override to them

[crisp stone]

@umbral herald Did you add this to gale?
It seems to be a thing, since importing no longer overrides my custom lethal resonance folder in plugins, but at the same time soundapi doesn't load it unless I delete and paste it in again

[umbral herald]

I guess I did accidentally

I changed it from deleting the whole profile folder to only adding/removing/toggling the needed mods and config files

[past minnow]

hey @umbral herald
I am asking here because I couldn't find a dedicated gale server or something
I've got this problem recently, and I can't figure out what it is, nothing has changed since the last time I tried to start a game

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gale-bin
I am using this so I am still running 1.8.2

[fickle wigeon]

stuck onc onnecting to discord while trying to sync

Failed to login - Auth callback timed out.

[long eagle]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Gale seems to be using a different endpoint for retrieving mods compared to TMM/r2mm

Gale uses <base>/c/<community>/api/v1/package, however tmm/r2mm uses <base>/c/<community>/api/v1/package-listing-index
Bringing this up now because it seems (at least for the R.E.P.O. community) that the latter updates more frequently (the former is currently 8-10hrs behind at the time of writing).

Format of the "new" url is a bit different though (gzipped JSON data, which contains an array of strings with URLs of more gzipped data, which actually contains metadata).

Thought it'd be good to bring up since some communities might be behind by half a day (if not more).

[eternal tulip]

wtf, does it only happen in REPO? at least for me it feels like Gale shows new mods a bit earlier than other mm in LC

10 hrs is crazy

[long eagle]

it's crazy yeah

hold on let me check the cf cache date

Last updated: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 13:09:35 GMT

thats 8.5 hours ago

It's technically a TS issue, however their launchers aren't affected since they use the other endpoint

LC is Thu, 26 Jun 2025 21:18:43 GMT (19 minutes ago)

[tribal marsh]

more of a general gale question but is it possible to put a custom launch(on steam) for modded profiles? I keep accidently opening up a game without gale and I lose my modded progress when I boot it

[cunning rapids]

yes you can, Profile > Copy launch arguments

[tribal marsh]

okayt thank you

[pastel grove]

dunno what happened and idm losing the legacy data but i dont know where i need to go to delete whatever needs deleting

[fickle wigeon]

I had that issue on my brothers laptop never figured it out

[umbral herald]

Just delete the whole data folder

It's in appdata roaming by default

[pastel grove]

did not fix it

though mine was in local

uninstalling and reinstalling x3 fixed it

[umbral herald]

There's stuff there as well but that's not important

[upper bay]

Im trying to publish a modpack to Thunderstore with the Gale app but it keeps giving this error although I have setup a team and added the correct API token

[umbral herald]

Export the modpack to a file and try to upload that on the thunderstore website

[upper bay]

Do I need to export it again every time I want to update it?

[proud prism]

@umbral herald Was thinking that Thunderstore was having issues with updates, but after testing with R2ModMan, it seems like Gale just isnt fetching new versions of at least modpacks for some reason

Updated mine 4+ hours ago, Gale still isn't catching it. R2ModMan has no issues.

Looks like Gale is 6-7 hours behind

[umbral herald]

No, this is just to check

[umbral herald]

Thunderstore is doing smth weird

I'm looking into it

[proud prism]

o7

[upper bay]

I was able to upload it to Thunderstore via file

[proud prism]

@upper bay Its not the upload that is the problem, its Gale not fetching mods

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Yeah Gale is being really slow at getting mod updates since yesterday

Hopefully it's an easy fix

[umbral herald]

Ok weird, could you send that zip file here?

[umbral herald]

99% sure that's not the issue

[umbral herald]

It's because of Thunderstore

But they are aware

[hardy rover]

Yeah I noticed it's been fine for several hours now but R2 was way behind instead

lol

[umbral herald]

Ok

Guess they fixed it but made more bugs

[hardy rover]

So I would hope they're fixing it tbh

[fickle wigeon]

the discord sync doesent work, it just gets stuck on loading when trying to sync with discord

i click authorize

and then it brings me to a webpage that says

{"message":"Something went wrong."}

on the latest version btw

[fickle wigeon]

I sitll cant figuire this out

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/issues/346

this was the same issue I had

[cunning notch]

Okay so there's a thing where people complain about "bloat" with MonoDetour added as a dependency for LethalLib to provide CIL analysis in stack traces, and I believe that at most the "bloat" exists in mod manger UI/UX in the form that dependencies look as important to the user as the mods they added to their mod profile, so there's a bunch of mods they don't care and don't want to care about. Relevant context: #1350616165289951272 message

I know that this is not a trivial issue to solve, but to just get some discussion started, here's a very crude concept of how dependencies could be hidden by default and shown when the user wants to see them.

In the concept:

• I have decided I want to see what the glizzy mod depends on, so they are shown in a tree view.
  • This is not the default and the tree can only be viewed for one mod at a time because mods can have the same dependencies
• The "show included dependencies" button would not be related to the above, it would show all dependencies in a flat list below kinda like they currently are displayed, just in a list separated from the mods the user added themselves (aka the mods they actually care about).

I don't know how all of this would be implemented even design-wise for now so this is just purely to get some discussion started (as I said)

[bold hornet]

what if its a modpack

[cunning notch]

I think it'd just show it as a single mod with hidden dependencies unless you mess with a dependency (like changing the version), in which case that dependency is now manually altered by you and you now care about it.

Actually maybe it should show an info mark somewhere that the mod's dependencies have been modified, and only if you tell gale that you care about a mod (e.g. install it directly or click some "Track this package" aka "I care about this package" button on a dependency) then it would appear as a top level mod you care about

it'd kinda be like NuGet dependencies

you only add the core ones you care about and they bring their own dependencies without having a million dependencies in your csproj

You could imagine BepInEx.Core as a modpack for example. It comes with all the stuff BepInEx ships with

[cunning notch]

also tbh the whole tree view with the dependencies in my concept image is kinda pointless as it's very complicated for something that isn't required

[candid sigil]

I have images (.png) in my modpack file and i have to tell my friends to specifically click the import all files button, could images be enabled by default to import without enabling the setting?

i like the feature but blocking images 😔
Thunderstore allows modpacks there to have images

my friends are gonna be thinking my modpack is virus 💀 when i tell them to enable that

[umbral herald]

I mean this is how pretty much every package manager works. Mods are a bit different in that a "normal" package dependency usually doesn't patch existing code and change the behaviour of the game/program. Standard package managers don't usually display all the packages very clearly (you often times need to dig through the lock file). I feel like this wouldn't be a great option for modding. However, I would still say this overall way of handling dependencies would be better for gale, as it makes it much easier to track what's needed, and not as well as preventing (perceived) bloat. The problem is making it the interface easy to understand for your average modder

[umbral herald]

like yeah this tree view would probably be quite confusing

and kinda hard to make as well

[cunning notch]

Just to make it clear, are you saying that only showing explicitly added packages would be better, or the opposite?

[umbral herald]

Also to add to this, dependencies in modding are a lot more fluid. Often times packages don't explicity depend on each other's methods, which means you can switch them out for similar packages. This was an early feature request for gale -- being able to install mods without their dependencies as well as disable/remove dependencies

[umbral herald]

The "you only add the core ones you care about and they bring their own dependencies" part

I feel like the dependencies would need to still be visible, otherwise people would get very confused

[cunning notch]

yeah I do think that there should be a way to see them, but IMO it makes sense to separate them to a different list

[umbral herald]

especially for modpacks, imagine installing a modpack and only seeing that in your profile. Then when you launch the game you are met by skibidi toilet and thomas the tank engine

[umbral herald]

Yeah that was along the lines I was thinking as well

but I'm not sure how to actually design that

[cunning notch]

I guess this would mean there would need to be a mod "banning" feature where a package is prevented from being installed as a dependency

[umbral herald]

eh

don't think that's needed

[cunning notch]

I can definitely try help design it

[umbral herald]

There's also the issue of exporting and importing

You can't really change the profile export format

[cunning notch]

with the way I'm thinking about, the mod manager would only care about "tracked" packages and everything else is kinda handled automatically so to remove a package it'd need to be "tracked" as a removed package

[cunning notch]

fair

[umbral herald]

exactly

but yeah exports are a big issue

You would either 1) only contain your "tracked" mods, causing an import to only contain those (since managers don't automatically fill in dependencies for imported profiles, though this is something gale could do) or 2) contain everything, causing everything to get tracked on import again

[cunning notch]

mm that is a bit problematic

[umbral herald]

of course I could invent a new format for gale only but I really don't like doing that

[cunning notch]

I guess an option could be to work with r2mm to get a standard everyone follows

[candid sigil]

Should I post this to a GitHub issue or you can take it here?

[cunning notch]

but yeah I guess for this there would need to be the 1) tracked packages, and 2) a lock file

[cerulean stream]

Anyone happen to know any way of fix windows from reporting the disk space usage incorrectly? Gale to my knowledge stores all mods in the cache folder and uses hard links to the cache instead of actual files in profiles, but windows reports the links as full copies of those files which I assume isn't the case, and each link takes up as much space as the original. I constantly duplicate profiles to create variations for various purposes that make the disk space usage climb pretty quickly as reported by file explorer, disk manager, WinDrStat or fsutil

[long eagle]

Fixed

• Mod updates being delayed for 8-10 hours
  ❤️

[iron carbon]

i can't get gale to work, im using linux mint and i get this every time i try opening it (same thing happens if its appimage or the .deb package)

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald I feel like the new update is getting mod updates slower than the previous release was

For example RebalancedMoons' update is still not available after 2 hours

Gale usually gets updates within 40 minutes to an hour

@robust lark Any ideas as to why? Is Thunderstore still having problems or did Bobbo do an oopsie? 🤔

[candid sigil]

Anything about this?

[hardy rover]

Finally showed up lol

[umbral herald]

Go into the path shown there (/home/.../.local/share/...) and delete the prefs.json file

[umbral herald]

I switched to using the same endpoint as the other mod managers do

Which I guess is more delayed than the old one gale was using (before the issues started)

[hardy rover]

Probably, the issues were fine for days though before you pushed 1.8.4 so whatever was happening got fixed lol

[umbral herald]

According to thunderstore and my own testing it was not fixed but rather unstable

[hardy rover]

Ahhhh

[umbral herald]

So sometimes it would be more up to date and sometimes up to 10 hours

[iron carbon]

i didnt have that file to begin with

[candid sigil]

Is there anything going to be made with this?

[eternal tulip]

Tbh i don't think its a big deal

Weird that your friends will think its a virus

[candid sigil]

I mean no but I think it should be added

[eternal tulip]

If it was enabled by default it could lead to people installing things they don't want

[candid sigil]

No

Only images

[eternal tulip]

Yeah but

Hypothetical case
Someone bad adds a virus
Comes by default
People without the knowledge install by default
They get a virus

Hdieuehnd

[candid sigil]

In a image?

[eternal tulip]

Does that option only works for images?

[candid sigil]

If the file has a dll (mod) and you enable that it should install it

I mean r2modman doesn't even ask it just installs it

I am just suggesting images should be allowed to import without the setting enabled

[eternal tulip]

Oooh yeah that would be better, i thought you meant the option should come on by default haha sorry

[candid sigil]

Don't worry xD

[umbral herald]

Maybe but it would mean that the files gale exports vs imports would be different

Which could be confusing

But yeah I feel like your friends should also trust you 😅

[candid sigil]

No need to change export

I add the images manually to the file

R2ModMan added the images automatically to the folders when importing

[umbral herald]

Yeah I wasn't thinking on doing that, but I meant that the difference could be confusing

[umbral herald]

Yes r2modman imports everything

[candid sigil]

Yeah

[umbral herald]

Which is really dangerous but yk

[candid sigil]

Maybe add png files with the whitelist where cfg and json extensions are when importing?

[umbral herald]

Exactly

But as I said importing those files but not exporting them could be confusing

[candid sigil]

hmm

[umbral herald]

But I'll probably do it anyway

[candid sigil]

Thanks

[candid sigil]

maybe you can make a window appear when exporting the modpack, to set the modpack name and the export location. And then you could detect custom files added to it and make the export of them toggleable
This image is exporting a modpack in modrinth
-# Just a suggestion, but please add the image importing thing by default

[umbral herald]

Have you seen the modpack export tab?

[candid sigil]

yeah but in file i mean

[crisp stone]

Technically any file can be used to hold malware, images included

[candid sigil]

oh sheet

[candid sigil]

sorry i didnt see the export to file

[umbral herald]

yeah but images won't be automatically loaded by BepInEx

unlike dlls

[crisp stone]

Yeah running malware needs an executable of some sort, but the data itself can be stored in metadata for example

[umbral herald]

you can just change the extensions and gale will be fine importing it

but that goes for every file you download

[candid sigil]

oh, i meant in r2z format

[umbral herald]

r2z doesn't hold all that information

[candid sigil]

well i guess the export to Thunderstore is just fine

ignore the thing i suggested (except images)

[candid sigil]

like if someone uploads a mod to specifically run the metadata from a image?

[umbral herald]

you're already downloading an executable so

[crisp stone]

Basically yeah. Something similar has happened on thunderstore before iirc. Basically a mod called for a data pull from a website, the link to which was hidden in an encoded line

[umbral herald]

they can already run random code on your computer, needing to do it from an image is just jumping through extra hoops

The only thing stopping people from uploading malware is thunderstore's moderation and automatic scans

[crisp stone]

Hiding it in an image could bypass some automated detection, but a moderator might still be able to spot the connection

[umbral herald]

And then you could detect custom files added to it and make the export of them toggleable
The thing with this is that gale can't really detect which files were created by mods and not. I guess it could just list all the files in the profile though. Also, r2z files weren't really made for this. There's a reason thunderstore has as limit on ~2 mb for codes

[candid sigil]

i dont think allowing images to be imported (not exported) in a r2z is a big deal while in r2modman the r2z can have a dll with malware and it doesn't even ask you

[umbral herald]

I don't know how you could embed malware in an actual, readable image file but sure (I imagine just renaming a binary would be caught)

[crisp stone]

Steganography is one way

[umbral herald]

I was talking about ui for adding files to exported profiles

[candid sigil]

hmm ok

[umbral herald]

not importing

[candid sigil]

i was talking about the import thing

[crisp stone]

Here's a "png" with embedded data the game its from is able to read and decode into a functional game object

[candid sigil]

cool

[crisp stone]

Cant remember how to get it to show...
But there is data within the transparency layer

Ah, yup, here. Removing the alpha displays an ever so tiny amount of hidden data at the bottom

Pretty cool stuff

Frankly, this kind of thing could be hidden within the icon.png that every mod has

[bold hornet]

someone make a png that deletes the game from my pc

thanks

[candid sigil]

The only bad thing is if the image gets compressed if you share the car through any platform

Most games just have the vehicle file and the image file but pretty cool stuff there

[brisk violet]

ik the typical use case for that would be malware but i'm imagining someone somehow hiding an entire enemy in the icon, y'know, to keep it a secret

I think that'd be hilarious

[crisp stone]

It'd be tough, but possible I guess

[crisp stone]

It can be shared through quite a few social medias just fine. Discord works just fine with it, for instance

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Gale seems to be fetching slower than usual tonight when it fetches, it's usually very quick but sometimes it's being extremely slow

[umbral herald]

Probably thunderstore being weird

[candid sigil]

it has been working fine for me

[hardy rover]

Now it's fetching normally, so yeah prob Thunderstore

[umbral herald]

Hey, I figured this out

https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/issues/346#issuecomment-3048332306

[uncut kraken]

Is this a known issue? Happens when switching to a game with a synced profile. Switching a tab makes it go away though.

[fickle wigeon]

ohh bet thank you, so as long as I change it to something else it will work?

[umbral herald]

yeah

I'll make sure to fix it though

[umbral herald]

Yeah, it happens sometimes

I'm not entirely sure why though, it's hard to reproduce for me

you can also hit F5 to get rid of it

[uncut kraken]

Last update kind of broke tooltips. They stop showing up after you click a checkbox for example.

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Latest update is really glitchy when trying to organize mods, sometimes the whole ui freaks out then recovers itself

[umbral herald]

What do you mean by "the whole ui freaks out" more specifically?

[umbral herald]

Yeah huh, that's weird

[stiff quest]

Guess I'm not updating Gale today

[umbral herald]

I switched to pnpm

probably why

[stiff quest]

Yeah...

Gotta figure out how to get that working

[stiff quest]

Got it working :3

[hardy rover]

It looks like everything sorted shuffles and moves what I'm organizing to a random spot

But nothing actually gets disorganized

[candid sigil]

everytime i change a setting the ? setting hover popup doesn't show up, i have to drag the window across the screen and then it might show up again

[carmine linden]

is there anyway to downgrade gale because of all the issues currently 😭

[candid sigil]

You can download the previous version here: https://github.com/Kesomannen/gale/releases/tag/1.8.4

[carmine linden]

thank you

[umbral herald]

I wouldn't recommend it but yeah you could

[umbral herald]

Are you having any more issues?

Than the tooltips and mod reordering

[umbral herald]

Same thing as above I presume

[umbral herald]

Can you send a video cause I can't seem to get anything similar to this happen

[carmine linden]

hmmm let me think i don’t think so

[hardy rover]

It's kind of random when it happens but when it happens it actually backtraces where it was placed a little

I guess it dislikes if you're moving something that's partially not fully shown on the ui

Also why is the side bar so gigantic now?

it feels

weird

lol

[deft locust]

i have encountered that bug before the recent update

[tender hare]

I don’t think that it’s a bug

[hardy rover]

I've not had it until this update

[hoary pawn]

I swear this is not like before

the order i mean

[umbral herald]

Looks like you're just scrolling upwards?

By taking the item from the top of the screen

[candid sigil]

I didn't even know that existed

[umbral herald]

Could have changed

[candid sigil]

Btw, the thing to "track" a thunderstore modpack like if it was a profile is going to be made?

[umbral herald]

Probably not since the profile sync kind of replaces that

Also thunderstore are working on something similar on their end, but lord knows when that will release

[hoary pawn]

swear it was alphabetical before

[candid sigil]

Hmm, okay I will try that out

Btw you could add the color settings to the gale wiki

I didn't know it has to be a hex but without the #

[umbral herald]

Right I forgot about that

[umbral herald]

but are you a developer or are you changing a config in someone else's mod?

cause removing the # could screw with that mod's parsing

although they shouldn't be using hashtags anyway, as they are counted as comments in the ini file

[candid sigil]

#1364323192423977002 message

I used hashtag and then realised without hashtag gale detects it as a color

[candid sigil]

Dev

[candid sigil]

True, those are counted as comments but for some reason it works, I have also seen comments in other mods

[umbral herald]

Gale doesn't care about hashtags in the value but it should be avoided anyway

because in reality the file format doesn't support that

[uncut kraken]

Did you make search filters save in recent update? Saw no mention of that in changelog.

[umbral herald]

They should have saved before..?

maybe that was broken though

[umbral herald]

people didn't see them before cause they were pretty tiny

especially in full screen

[uncut kraken]

Didn't for me. Was losing my mind switching from Top Rated every time. I thought them not saving was an intentional change.

[river anchor]

I'm having trouble getting the config descriptions to show since the recent update

I'll sent a gif next time it happens

[uncut kraken]

Known issue.

[river anchor]

ah gotcha

[hardy rover]

Gale completely bricked for me on the latest evrsion after manually importing mods and will no launcher launch Lethal

I think I'm just gonna clear caches and roll back to 1.8.4

I was trying to setup and configure Wesley's updates and instead Gale nuked itself lol

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald I'm unable to resync my Gale profile right now

It just gets stuck trying to Authorize

[umbral herald]

What do you mean?

were you not able to start it?

[hardy rover]

Yeah when I manually imported Wesley's Moons and Interiors Gale stopped launching the game

until I completely deleted the caches

Something with manual imports might be screwy on 1.8.5

[umbral herald]

Are you sure gale didn't start the game?

and it didn't crash or smth

[hardy rover]

It wouldn't start the game or BepInEx

[umbral herald]

you mean pressing "clear mod cache"?

[hardy rover]

I deleted the caches from the appdata directories

[umbral herald]

So the whole data folder?

[hardy rover]

Yeah, since it broke after a manual import I suspected something similar to when it broke by replacing files before

But thinking about it I half wonder if it's cus I can't reconnect to Discord right now, cus my profile at the time was synced

[umbral herald]

Ok we can take that other stuff later, what's going on with discord rn?

does it just not open the login page?

[hardy rover]

Yeah when I hit Authorize it just gets stuck and eventually Gale times out connection

Keeps doing this

[umbral herald]

probably a discord issue

[hardy rover]

Potentially

[umbral herald]

unless the api is lagging

oh no nvm

https://status.flyio.net/

[robust lark]

We're working with a guy in Peak that is having the issue of gale just not doing anything when he presses the launch button

[umbral herald]

fly is exploding

[umbral herald]

He's in the gale discord as well

[hardy rover]

Probably the same issue I had

It's when profiles are Synced it looks like

[robust lark]

oki, good, you know more than I do

[umbral herald]

@hardy rover The launching issue is connected to fly's server outage as well

when you launch a sync profile it checks with the server to see if there are any updates

the server that's currently being extremely laggy

[hardy rover]

Yeah

I had a feeling

[hardy rover]

Let the person know to disconnect their synced profile for now

[umbral herald]

if you want to fix it right now you can disable "Pull before launch"

^ do this instead

[hardy rover]

Oh true

[hardy rover]

Is Fly fixed now?

I noticed I was able to reconnect

[umbral herald]

Check their website

[robust lark]

Check my website instead

[pure anchor]

im not sure if anyone else has noticed this but for some reason since the update, when you click the window of gale after launching the game specifically to not only tab back into it but also to get rid of the pop up that makes it darker, the window sticks to your cursor

i probably typed a few too many words to mention that, but yeah

its kind of annoying and i dont really see a point for that to be added

[hardy rover]

Btw any chance of adding a config option to use the fetching system Gale used in 1.8.3 and before? I really hate how slow it is now, you could just add a warning that it might sometimes be super slow

I think being able to choose which API to use would be fantastic

[hardy rover]

Maybe have it be a thing where it uses the faster API by default and it uses the one other managers use as a fall back if it detects the slow down

I just feel like Gale being so slow now takes away from one of the main things that made it really unique and stand out vs R2

[umbral herald]

This wasn't intended but yeah it is very annoying

Most likely due to the component library gale uses

Which I updated to a new version in the latest gale update

[umbral herald]

How slow are we talking? From my testing it was usually a couple seconds faster and this sounds like a really contrived solution

[hardy rover]

For me it used to always get updates within 40min to an hour lol now it's taking 2 or 3 hours pretty consistently

I've also been noticing a problem where downloads are super slow on 1.8.5 especially

That issue started in 1.8.4 it seems to lag on Fetching and downloading stuff a lot

I don't actually know if I had slow downloads with 1.8.4, but it's a consistent problem with 1.8.5

Yeah I think this might be an issue specifically with 1.8.5, doing a test by importing a previous version of my profile

[umbral herald]

Oh I thought you meant like the time doing the fetch

The delay was much worse on the old enpdpoint, that's why I switched

[hardy rover]

Yeah no when the old endpoint worked properly it would have updates available to download much quicker

lol

[umbral herald]

Well that's on thunderstore

[hardy rover]

Fair

[umbral herald]

Nothing gale can do about it

[umbral herald]

This is almost certainly placebo or thunderstore slowing down

There were only UI changes in the update

[hardy rover]

It's possible

Thunderstore seemed to be being really slow yesterday

[umbral herald]

Also btw you can do a manual import if there's a mod you really want

Should be pretty seamless, just download from ts then drag n drop from the browser

[hardy rover]

Ye I usually do that when testing so I can config stuff quicker

[supple trellis]

This link directs me to example.com 💔

[umbral herald]

wait what

oh shit

[supple trellis]

dw i figured out the api key stuff

i remembered a bit even tho its been a year

[hoary pawn]

a feature that I didnt know until now.
when minimize(?) or maximized the description change to readme

[celest moth]

i actually didnt realize that too

[pallid sky]

Hello!
I don't know if it was informed before, but the config descriptions don't work sometimes

[candid sigil]

It's known, the new update is a bit glitchy

I downgraded version (others did too)

[umbral herald]

everything should be fixed apart from that

[cinder basin]

@umbral herald a small feature suggestion.
Basically something like a mod update log. Whenever I update my pack I could just go to updates history and see what mods I've just updated today on what time. Would be very helpful.

[supple trellis]

for very long checkbox configs like this i'd love to be able to do something like hold ctrl+lmb to flip every checkbox i hover over, just as a little qol option

maybe an enable/disable all would also be useful situationally

[kind ravine]

@umbral herald does gale currrently use the Local folder in programdata for anything?

just trying to clear up space fro my c drive and i noticed there is a folder in there that seemingly does the same thing as the folder in roaming, so im thinking it was maybe for an older version of gale

[umbral herald]

Not gale directly, but it could be a dependency. What is in the folder? How large is it?

[kind ravine]

well it's marked as cache

and it is currently 20GB

seems to cache all downloaded mods

[umbral herald]

Umm

That's probably old

There is a cache folder in gale's main data folder right?

[kind ravine]

yup

this one i took a screenshot of is in local though

[umbral herald]

Ok, then the one in local is most likely left from an older version

I thought I added an automatic delete when you updated but maybe it failed

This was like a year ago though

[kind ravine]

yeah lmao it

it's been like, the second largest folder on my c drive for a while lmao

finally my c drive has over 20gb of space left on it

[umbral herald]

testing a little something

[candid sigil]

YES

[frigid heron]

YESSSSSSSS

[cunning rapids]

finally qol that we have needed

[crisp stone]

Absolutely impeccable recording

[tropic zodiac]

YOOOO THAT'S SO COOL

[hoary pawn]

anyone help
for some reason my profiles wont show up in gale

[umbral herald]

Did you manually edit something in the data folder?

[hoary pawn]

just copied com.kesomannen.gale folder to other folder (not cut or move something)
just wanted to move it cuz my local C have not enough space

luckily I have previous code for the profile and created a new one

[candid sigil]

You should have changed it via gale config, not manually in the file explorer

[hoary pawn]

im just backing up my profile when it happen

[umbral herald]

So it's fixed?

[hoary pawn]

not fix fixed
other profiles in other games went pooof
I just created a new profile with the previous code

[cerulean stream]

Toggling a toggle config option in the options menu while the config description popup is displayed disables viewing said descriptions permanently until app is restarted

Very annoying bug when trying to configure an entire modpack

[candid sigil]

downgrade a version, its what i did

[cerulean stream]

Bobbo's usually fast with patching issues like that so im not gonna bother

[candid sigil]

its been like 5 days but ok

[cerulean stream]

@umbral herald then i assume he wasnt aware

[uncut kraken]

He was.

[umbral herald]

it's going to be fixed in the next update

[tropic zodiac]

bobbo can the next update have an option in gale to always download all files from a code?

ik it's potentially risky, but it's annoying having to tell people to do it everytime

[candid sigil]

you can upload dlls to a code?

or do you mean file

[uncut kraken]

Huh? It already does.

[tropic zodiac]

there's an option for always download all files??

[uncut kraken]

What do you mean by all files?

[candid sigil]

in a code?

[uncut kraken]

All mods and their configs are shared.

[tropic zodiac]

when you download a modpack from a code

gale has an advanced section

[candid sigil]

when you generate a code only the mod names and their configs are uploaded (From what i know)

[tropic zodiac]

and in it is a checkbox that says "download all files"

which is pretty much required sometimes for it to work correctly

[umbral herald]

Ehh I don't really like the idea of that. Especially if you need to tell people who might not understand what it's actually doing

[uncut kraken]

What's the use case though?

[umbral herald]

what is your specific use case? Testing mods?

[uncut kraken]

To share non-standard configs?

[tropic zodiac]

just sharing modpacks with many stuff in it

and specific files that would normally not download

[uncut kraken]

Like?

[umbral herald]

Gale only includes normal text files (.json .cfg etc)

[candid sigil]

yeah

[umbral herald]

but thunderstore allows anything to be in a profile code

so you can include a dll with malware

[tropic zodiac]

custom images in some configs

[umbral herald]

and they will do nothing about it

[uncut kraken]

Just make a mod that has those and include it in a profile.

[umbral herald]

for custom images I would recommend making a mod to store them

cause isn't it annoying to have to manually add them with each code?

[tropic zodiac]

yeah but i haven't seen any sort of malware mod on the site

except for one i know is definitly one

[umbral herald]

well codes are different

afaik thunderstore doesn't scan profile files and they're also anonymous

[tropic zodiac]

true

so we're not getting a risky option to enable download all files at all times?

[umbral herald]

probably not

[tropic zodiac]

because genuinely, i hate to say it, but storing things in a mod that you could fix with 1 config would improve the thunderstore database as a whole

[candid sigil]

this is what i did with my modpack, i used to add images manually

[tropic zodiac]

because if you think about it, why are there so many asset replacement mods that are marked as "for my friends" or "for my pack"

too much

[umbral herald]

I know but profile codes aren't a good solution to it

[tropic zodiac]

this is what my exclude tags section looks like when i browse mods

[umbral herald]

maybe I could expand profile sync to be better suited for it

but thunderstore's codes are way to risky imo

[tropic zodiac]

maybe you could do it so it downloads image and sound files from a config folder in the profile least?

[umbral herald]

yeah maybe

[tropic zodiac]

like just this would make it faster than to either have to check a box, or upload a mod that will bloat the database like 90% of all mods on it

[umbral herald]

I mean for thunderstore they're pretty much the same thing

they have to store your profile files as well

but it does make browsing harder yes

[tropic zodiac]

yeah

question tho bobbo

can there be gale only mods?

[umbral herald]

What do you mean? Mods that only work when launching with gale?

[tropic zodiac]

no i mean mods that can only be downloaded from gale

[umbral herald]

what would be the purpose of that?

[tropic zodiac]

idk

i had a small modpack once that i downloaded that said it wasn't gonna be on thunderstore anymore and was gonna be on gale (which is the reason i switched to it) and then i realised well, there aren't mods you can only download from gale

i just thought about it for long time and wanted to ask if there were any

[candid sigil]

Thunderstore, R2ModMan and Gale use the same mod hosting platform

[umbral herald]

They could be talking about gale's profile sync

[tropic zodiac]

yeah it was long before the profile sync was a thing

so idk about that

maybe you've pitched profile sync way long ago, or they simply didn't know that it's not possible to do so

(the modpack uploader)

[umbral herald]

this is released now!

[candid sigil]

And the setting hover thing?

[umbral herald]

it's fixed

[candid sigil]

Yay

[umbral herald]

btw, if you want to get pinged each update with the changes you can join the gale discord

it's linked at the top of the readme

also in the app under Help

[hallow reef]

@umbral herald configs arent being installed when importing profiles using the Sync feature on 1.9.0

[umbral herald]

they're not??

I barely touched that

you're right yeah

[hallow reef]

config folder is empty when importing

[umbral herald]

I'll fix it asap

[hallow reef]

all g, just letting ya know 🙂

[umbral herald]

seems to be all profile imports not just from sync

[hallow reef]

thanks for the fast fix!

[hardy rover]

The new feature seems to break when updating mods

At least after pressing Update All, it updated 1 mod then did nothing

couldn't update the others

I liked the old Downloads UI better

😔

Updating individually seems to work, when I pressed Update All it updated only 1 mod then stopped showing the other mods had updates

I also reinstalled Gale after that just incase the new UI change needed cache folders refreshed

I still miss the old Downlaods UI though the new one doesn't show all the info anymore

It's too simplified

it's also tiny now

This is just so tiny 😭

[dapper harbor]

yall making me scared to update gale

[umbral herald]

Do you have a code for the profile this was happening on? I'm not able to reproduce it

with the same mods as when it happened

[umbral herald]

are you talking about the download speed?

[umbral herald]

The idea is that you don't need to pay attention to it anymore

[hardy rover]

01982a02-91d7-c8e9-2e45-28218b964417 You might be able to test this one with 2 updates available

[nova sandal]

also small suggestion depends on what Bobbo wants but perhaps lock this channel and redirect members to the gale server instead?

[hallow reef]

Yeah much better to have a central Gale server, it can't be easy tracking Gale messages in every supported game that has a Discord

[hardy rover]

@umbral herald Just confirming that it's Updating All mods just fine now, so it was probably something with updating from the old version of Gale

[umbral herald]

Yeah it would be nice if you could lock this post@robust lark

to begin the great gale migration

[robust lark]

https://discord.gg/sfuWXRfeTt